# FNO Pinball Ep 17: Jurassic Park Pro Pinball Machine

**Source:** Flip n Out Pinball  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2019-08-27  
**Duration:** 173m 54s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw0Yg99dmyI

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## Analysis

Flippin' Out Pinball streams extended gameplay of Jurassic Park Pro with code version .87, discussing new code updates that changed multiball timing and animations. Hosts Joel and Ken play casually while managing Twitch technical issues, chat interaction, and banter about pinball machine ownership, collecting, and upcoming events like Expo 2025 and SDTM unboxing content.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Jurassic Park code version .87 has new animations and T-Rex multiball behavior compared to earlier versions — _Hosts mention getting new code two weeks prior during Chuck's visit, with unexpected multiball starts and different match sequence animations in latest update_
- [HIGH] Straight Down The Middle unboxing video of Jurassic Park featuring Greg is high-quality pinball content — _Hosts recommend SDTM unboxing video multiple times as 'pinball gold' and reference Greg's enthusiasm for the theme_
- [MEDIUM] Chaos Multiball is the primary scoring mode on Jurassic Park, especially when stacked with playfield multipliers — _Host comments that all top scorers likely involve Chaos Multiball exploitation with 2x playfield multiplier stacking_
- [HIGH] A previously-listed Jurassic Park machine (Data East version) sold within the last week — _Host Bill mentions 'The Jurassic Park that I listed last week sold yesterday' and confirms it was a good deal_
- [HIGH] Flippin' Out Pinball is collecting selfie videos for Straight Down The Middle episode 100 celebration — _Hosts request Episode 100 selfie video submissions from viewers for a planned celebration video project_

### Notable Quotes

> "Dude, this game definitely has you coming back for more. He donated $1,500 and it locked up. He donated $1,500 and we're going 24 hours probably."
> — **Host (Joel or Ken)**, Early in stream
> _Describes addictive gameplay loop of Jurassic Park and stream technical issues_

> "This game definitely plays so different now. Not differently. Even in the match sequence, there's different animations. That T-Rex multiball started unexpectedly."
> — **Host**, Mid-stream gameplay discussion
> _Confirms code update changes to JP gameplay mechanics and animation behavior_

> "Go to YouTube, type in Straight Down the Middle or SDTM pinball, and check out the unboxing video. Because you have one of the most enthusiastic people in pinball in regards to a Jurassic Park theme."
> — **Flippin' Out host (Zach/Joel)**, Mid-stream content recommendation
> _Promotes SDTM unboxing content as exemplary pinball community engagement and entertainment_

> "If you love the game, dude, you're going to wear it to the wood anyway. My Wizard of Oz is never going anywhere."
> — **Bill**, Late stream chat discussion
> _Philosophy on collecting and maintaining machines based on emotional attachment vs. pristine condition_

> "I think Chaos Multiball is the main multiball to get into. And if you're stacking on that and you've got two-time playfield multiplier, that is there to exploit."
> — **Host (Ken or Joel)**, Scoring discussion
> _Identifies optimal strategy for high scores on JP_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Flippin' Out Pinball | organization | YouTube streaming channel and pinball distributor/retailer hosting this gameplay stream |
| Jurassic Park Pro | game | Stern pinball machine being streamed; version .87 code with new animations and multiball mechanics |
| Straight Down The Middle (SDTM) | organization | Pinball YouTube channel that produced unboxing video of Jurassic Park; hosts recommend it as quality pinball content |
| Greg | person | Enthusiastic Jurassic Park theme fan featured in SDTM unboxing video; received premium JP machine; mentioned as frequent chat participant |
| Zach | person | Co-host/editor at Flippin' Out Pinball; edits SDTM unboxing content; manages stream distribution logistics |
| Joel | person | Host/operator of Flippin' Out Pinball streaming channel |
| Ken | person | Co-host at Flippin' Out Pinball; plays Jurassic Park on stream; provides technical pinball expertise |
| Bill | person | Regular streamer on FNO; plays Jurassic Park; discusses machine collecting philosophy and Wizard of Oz ownership |
| Steve Beattie | person | Co-host of Flippin' Out Pinball; provides technical support email contact: specialwindlitpinballpodcast@gmail.com |
| Pinball Expo 2025 | event | Upcoming major pinball event mentioned as 43 days away; hosts mention attending and Burton will play JP |
| Slap State Pinball Podcast | organization | Podcast running Gorgar charity auction to fund children's hospital pinball machine donation in St. Louis area |
| Chuck | person | Visited FNO two weeks prior; participated in beta testing new Jurassic Park code |
| Demolition Man | game | Pinball machine Bill is considering listing for sale to pursue another title acquisition |
| Wizard of Oz | game | Pinball machine owned by Bill; planning playfield swap and clear coat maintenance; unwilling to sell |
| Pacific Rim | game | Pinball machine discussed regarding playfield blistering; Bill owns and plays it regularly |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Jurassic Park Pro code updates and gameplay mechanics, Pinball community content creation and YouTube recommendations
- **Secondary:** Pinball machine collecting philosophy and ownership priorities, Stream technical issues and platform management (Twitch), Upcoming pinball events and conventions (Expo 2025), Pinball scoring strategy and multiball exploitation
- **Mentioned:** Secondary market activity and machine sales/trading, Pinball community charity initiatives (Gorgar auction)

### Sentiment

**Positive** (0.78) — Hosts express genuine enthusiasm for Jurassic Park gameplay and community content. Casual, friendly banter with chat. Some minor frustration with Twitch technical issues but quickly resolved. Overall tone is celebratory of pinball culture and machine ownership.

### Signals

- **[community_signal]** Straight Down The Middle unboxing video establishing high engagement model for new game launches with enthusiast personalities (confidence: high) — FNO hosts extensively promote SDTM JP unboxing as 'pinball gold'; Greg featured as enthusiastic collector; Zach editing creates quality content; referenced multiple times as exemplary community engagement
- **[event_signal]** Straight Down The Middle Episode 100 celebration collecting community selfie videos for collaborative content project (confidence: high) — FNO hosts request submissions with deadline noted; indicates coordinated community celebration milestone across platforms
- **[competitive_signal]** Chaos Multiball identified as dominant scoring strategy on Jurassic Park, especially when stacked with 2x playfield multiplier (confidence: medium) — Host analysis suggests all high scores involve Chaos Multiball exploitation; indicates potential scoring imbalance or dominant strategy meta
- **[market_signal]** Jurassic Park secondary market activity shows strong demand; previously-listed machine sold within days at favorable pricing (confidence: high) — Bill reports JP machine he listed last week sold 'yesterday' and characterizes it as 'a good deal,' indicating brisk market movement
- **[product_strategy]** Jurassic Park Pro code version .87 implements new animations, modified T-Rex multiball trigger timing, and updated match sequence animations compared to earlier versions (confidence: high) — Hosts note unexpected multiball starts and changed animations; mention this code was beta tested two weeks prior during Chuck's visit and is now in public release

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## Transcript

 break from it. But then tomorrow morning, when you wake up, and you're like, man, I had a pretty good game on that dress. Park, I want to go back downstairs. See what's going on. Yeah, dude, it definitely pulls you back in. You want to play more. Did we lock up, guys? I don't think so. Did we lock up? Oh, we're back. Okay. What's going on with Twitch lately? Control. Uh-uh-uh. Uh-uh-uh. Restart the system. Yeah, no, this game definitely has you coming back for more. He donated $1,500 and it locked up. He donated $1,500 and we're going 24 hours probably. Yeah, yeah. I'm sick for that. It's interesting. I don't know how much of this is on our side or if it's on Twitch's side because I don't know that we've ever dropped our stream, except for the last week we were out for a little bit. Yeah. And this week we're out for a little bit. Well, now we're down to look up top. Yeah, but I'm not getting any messages or any alerts on Twitch. We're plugged in, right? Oh, yeah. Computers were plugged in. Not running off battery. Anybody there? All good coming in here, Rodney says. I think we're good. All right, I'll be right back. What do you guys see? What? Some freezing going on? Yeah. A couple people said it was blacking out. See, now, I would get a notification window here if there was something dropping on our end. Oh, nice. I'm getting zero. There's no notifications. Good to keep an eye on that. Slap Save Podcast. What's going on? What up? Yeah. Frozen me I just showed on my side and I'm good. Okay. Okay. I think you talk a piece of maybe a refresh You guys are frozen You know, I've been in I've been in screens where that's happened I think it's which Buffering all right. Yeah now a lot of people What up, brother? Oh. Yeah, man, this is still a cool game. I know. It's like still one of those where I'm like, um, I want to just watch. No, dude, you're going to buy this thing. I know you. You know what's going to end up in my house, bro. Come on. Come on, man. Yeah, I just went on a, I don't know, I went on a selling spree today. Not really. No, you did one thing, and I was like, I'm going to sell this, but this, this, and this, and this are also an option. On the block. On the block. So we'll see. All right, guys, thanks for letting us know, man. If you have a black again, please let us know. Not that I think we're getting anything on our end, but that's all right. That is Jason, right? Yeah, I am curious to see how the Gorgar is going. I know it's kind of up there now. But. Go on. One game that I've never owned. Sweet Jason, what up? Out of the classics. Door guards. Yeah, it is Jason. What up, buddy? Just wanted to make sure, man. Dude, I'm a little fuzzy today. When are you coming back up to Chicago, man? Yeah, dude, it's been a while since we've seen Jason. It has. I think since... Outdoor Stream? Outdoor Stream. Ricky Roo, what up, man? Ricky Roo? Yeah. Bill, what is... Actually, the Ricky Roo Roo. The Roo Roo? Yeah. Dude, I bought this one. Honestly, I can't wait to get the next pin so I can bring this home finally. Yeah. So... Yeah, I mean, I like the game a lot. And this is actually my first new in the box. Nice, dude. You did not know that. Yeah. Dude, first in the box. This year I had my first new inbox. You had a few new inboxes. I was like, never new inboxes. You had Star Wars. You know what? Wonka. It's worth it. Oh, yeah. We're only like 43 days away from Expo, guys. Gordon, are you in for Expo, man? Yeah, dude. I think he's coming in on Monday. Wow. David Dennis, I wonder the same thing. So you caught that when Chuck was here, huh? Yeah, I would like to know which game they bumped off schedule. Yep, yep. All right, there's your answer, man. Oh, yeah, the Gordon's going to see this. I don't know if you guys can hear that through the Twitch, but man. Looks like a brontosaurus. Did I make that extra ball up there? That sucks. Dude, that's a heck of a score. And Burton will be in town to play this. Jurassic Park. There's nothing. Man, you leave the extra ball lit. That sucks. Yeah. So I had multiball going with extra ball. The right ramp was lit. There was just so much in my way, and I couldn't trap up. and I just blew it. So anyways, normally the first game of the night's crappy course. Yeah, that's only the first game. We got the new code on this one, dude. This one, it's definitely playing so different. Not differently. Even in the match sequence, there's different animations. That T-Rex multiball started unexpectedly. I didn't expect that to start and then there was a timer for the feeding. Yep. I'm used to hitting that left ramp for that. So yeah, I mean, there's some surprises along the way. Let's do another game. You guys ready? Yeah. Yeah. All right, we'll start it off. So what code version is this? Yeah, it's like .87, I believe. Somewhere in there. I think two weeks ago when Chuck was here, we were not really beta testing. We were given the opportunity to play some new code, and I'm sure a lot of that's implemented in the latest code update. So it is what it is. Yeah, backhand the hell out of the Raptor. I agree. I agree. If you can get into that Raptor cage and you can start some multiballs, It gets really lucrative. And Greg, thanks for coming in, Greg Boney, in the chat. It's good seeing you here, man. I was talking to these guys earlier. The unboxing of Jurassic Park on Straight Down the Middle, a pinball show. And for those of you that aren't familiar with what that is, go to YouTube, type in Straight Down the Middle or SDTM pinball, and check out the unboxing video. Because you have one of the most enthusiastic people in pinball in regards to a Jurassic Park theme. that's waiting for one of the best distributors, if not the best distributor in pinball, to deliver it. And everything, the hilarity ensues as these guys get together and Zach edits this thing up. It's pinball gold. Pinball gold, baby. It's pinball gold. So absolutely check it out. My second favorite straight down the middle of pinball show episode is our favorite distributor doing shots during the unboxing of his Pirates of the Caribbean. That's awesome. Good times. It's good times. Slap State Pinball Podcast. What's up, Jason? He says it's epic. Greg's enthusiasm is perfect. Absolutely. We've got to find him a direct card. John Thompson says edit out the couch scene, though. Now, listen, so that couch scene paid a little homage to little Jeff Goldblum. So that wasn't just like a random hairless chest shot from Zach. He was paying some homage to the movies. So you've got to do it. Taco Pizza, what's up? And Mac Jedi, what's going on? Taco Pizza! Good having you guys in chat tonight. Thanks, guys. Absolutely, man. John says it's still not right. There's a lot of things not right in pinball, but I love it. Hey, Slap State Pinball Podcast. Thanks for the 100 bits, man. And while you're here, let's refer people to what you're doing with your auctioning off of your Gorgar pinball machine with some extras in the hopes that, well, it definitely will help fund a pinball machine that's going to be brought to a children's hospital in the St. Louis, Missouri area. for those of you that like some more information go to Facebook Slap Sight Pinball Podcast you can look those guys up and you can actually listen to the last couple episodes where they kind of explain in detail what's going on absolutely good times and then check out Jason's new streaming channel Slap Sight Pinball Podcast what up Greg the best part, no spoilers but it's this It's the best face, and I was waiting for it, and then I saw it, and I was like, oh, that's what he's doing. Good times, good times. Greg, how are you liking your game, man? Yeah, what's up, Greg? So, the anticipation has come to a reality that the machine is yours. Now, I know ultimately, I think, Greg, you're going to be going to a premium. Oh, hey, flipping out pinball as a reminder. Submit your straight down the middle episode 100 selfie video. We'll be doing something fun with the videos. And all of you who submitted the videos already will be watching. What's the deadline on that, Zach? And as we transition back to Greg. Greg, I think I understand you're getting the premium, but you wanted to get the pro. Get some dress and park under your belt before you parlay into the premium. Well, dude, he was jonesing. I totally get it. I totally get it. Can we submit a video yet? Who has submitted a video? This week for sure. You've got to get your video in. All right. Yeah, we'll get mine done. Yeah. Are you doing your own? I don't know how I'm going to do this yet. I've been surviving the last couple of days. Right. With your bad back. Yeah. You just have to do one laying down, smoking cigarettes. Laying on the curb. Laying on the curb. Put a little, like a little due in time, sublime background music on there and you're all set. Dude, well, it's funny, Max. That was one other album I downloaded last week was Sublime. Smoked two cigarettes in the morning. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a good time. Pin sounds like it's blowing up over there, Steve. I'm not sure what's going on. Brian Cosner says, hey, don't worry. There's no urgency to get the video in because the 100th episode will probably be in 2020. Oh. Oh, a little bit of it. Jason's wishing you well with your bad back. Thank you, brother. Yeah, I'll do it a little worse. Nothing permanent, just trained with some expanse. But it was fun. You know, it was a good time walking around the house. Crawling. You see yourself upgrading from a pro to a premium at all? I think we had this conversation last week. There's a couple other games I got on my hit list that I need to get, so I'm just going to stick, I think, on the pro. Bill's become the Rockefeller pinball of St. Charles lately. It all hit at once. That's really how that happens. Wow. Yeah. I told the wife to watch this out. I saw it better than that. Sorry. I'm just getting caught back up here, guys. Kyle's good. Pizza taco? Please come in. Oh, my gosh. Oh, dude, I was just with my wife. I don't know. We were in, like, Denver. And somebody was eating a pizza folded with a paper plate around it. I was like, hey, look, it's a taco pizza. It's just pressing my mind. You can't. Yeah, no. So, yeah, buddy. No yoga. We're out on the yoga. The problem is I gained a little bit too much weight in the last six months. The life is pregnant. Because, dude, you know, 8 o'clock at night. You know, I'm kind of hungry. Dude, where are we going? Taco place. Oh, yeah, yeah, baby. You know. Dude, see, by the way. I'm kind of scared to sit down. We'll try and set something up, man. We need to. It's been a while. Ken's mic is right in the way tonight. What is up? Prestige 881. You know what? The Jurassic Park that I listed last week sold yesterday. Jones. That one's gone. It was a good deal, dude. It was. It was. The original JP. Well, not the original. It's a good game. That's a good name. Yeah, the data is JP. For sure. Honestly, I might, depending on how this goes, I actually might be listing Demolition Man. Because there's another title I want to go after. If I can get it done before. How many bits would it take to buy your Demo Man, Bill? 32,000. 32,000 bits? Well, that's 3,200 bucks, right? Is it? Yeah, you're right. It's a lot more expensive. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Somebody's like, whoa. At 3,200 bucks, it's a deal. But I'm going to flip this on you with the same number. 32,000 pesos. Are pesos bits? No, dude. Pesos are, you know. You're talking like $100. $500. We don't know. I don't know the exchange rate. Right. Bill should. Taco Bill. Taco Bill. That should be your Twitch name. Should be Taco Bell, Taco Bill. Because he's the burrito guy. You got to watch this. Right. Burrito Bill. Yeah. Anyhow, as I digress. So, again, we've got a legendary freaking guest coming in to stream the next pin. And both are surprises, unless Zach lets the cat out of the bag. But we couldn't be more thrilled. And I would imagine this is going to hit in the next two, three weeks, guys. So, Harry Hardy, thanks for 10 bits, buddy. Thanks for the boots. So, for those of you that like to hang out here, as we do on Mondays, got a little payoff coming, I think. Because it's certainly not from the pinball play here. So, okay. So next Monday is Labor Day. Yeah, so Labor Day is... All right, well, let me ask you this, guys. Because this is something we contemplate. I had this conversation today with Zach, or the other day. With Monday being Labor Day, do you all find yourselves coming back in here and chat on Labor Day? Or is Labor Day kind of a weekend where we just kind of take it off and then hit it heavy on the following Monday? or maybe we just dream on Tuesday instead of Labor Day Monday. I will definitely be Ubering if we dream on Labor Day. Greg, thanks for the 12 bits, man. Just having a chat is fun, guys. Everybody here is awesome. Greg with the bitties. Thanks, buddy. Greg with the bitties. The Aussies are not excluded because you're our Australian brethren. You're part of the U.S. celebration. So, Jason said he'd be here. He thinks Monday would be perfect. Floor and helmet doesn't matter to me just as long as I know what day to watch. What day to watch. That's pretty cool, man. Thank you. I'm just thinking this. I mean, I don't mind going at it on Labor Day. But if it was going to be an inconvenience for everybody here, because listen, it's like I'm hosting a party here with our buddies. Yeah. P. Brom Barrett has followed, and I appreciate his follow, man. Thank you. Thank you, sir or madam. I appreciate it. But it's like, if I'm going to, thank you. If I have a party, right, and most of my friends can't make it, like, I'm going to reschedule the party. Yeah, for sure. And everybody here right now that's in chat, everybody that comes here every single Monday, you're our buddies here. Like, it's part of the party. We all get together. So if Monday doesn't work, we'll switch it to Tuesday. Ryan said he will pick me up and come hang out. So you have, like, your own personal Uber for that. Yeah, dude. That's a party. So nobody cares either way? because if that's the case, then I think I'd like to stream Thursday nights at 7.30. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, Jason, because that's Slap Save Pinball podcast streaming time, 7.30 on Thursdays. The clear on Bill's swing post is looking good. We're looking at that today, actually. Looking good. So we have a Pacific trim. I like that Pacific trim. Pacific trim? Yeah. Pacific rim? I have. What a badass move. A couple of them. Yeah, we did 4K. Oh, man. Bill, you played pretty good with the bad back. Just saying. Bad back burrito Bill in the house. Good job, man. Yeah. I'm in the zone. I'm in the zone. Jason, you're not maneuverable because we're all in this together, man. We just work out the schedule. I think Thursday night's a great night to stream. And you've got that cornerstone. I love it. David Dennison, I can only imagine what it was like for Ken on the Ghostbusters ghosting. I was in a panic every morning. I would go downstairs, and I would check my inserts. And I would do this every morning. And it went on for months. One morning, I forgot to check, and I just never looked again. But I had to look before I sold it. I never had ghosting. So I had a later run. I think it was October of 2016, I think, was my run date on Ghostbusters. Yeah. Rodcom, thank you for the 100 bits. Really appreciate it. Rodcom69, thank you. The Ricky Ruru. Mine is doing pretty good. Right, though? The clear on the slings is okay. So we're good. Good stuff. Trying to take over the NFL lineup. Monday and Thursday, pinball links. I'm going to grab a bad-ass burrito. I'm going to grab a White Claw. Nobody judge, or judge. I don't give a shit. Hey, you do you. And knock that mic off. Sorry, guys, getting caught up. Really? Yeah, we are trying to take over the NFL, man. Now, if we can get their sponsors, then we're really unlikely to win. Rod Connick from the 100 Bits. We try, man. Yeah, Ghostbusters. You okay there? Doing a little adjusting. You were complaining that you felt something was off there. Now you're in there. Now you're in there. That's what she said. We got to tighten it. You got to tighten it from there. Anyhow. how many streamers does it take to install a boom mic stand? Some type of joke there. High score so far in this game is like around 530 million. Now, in our defense, we've really only been playing it when we've been streaming, and I probably have an extra 30 or 40 games on it over the last three weeks because sometimes I'll just come downstairs and I'll put seven or eight games on. But it is what it is. Yeah, one, but it takes 13 people to check to tell you how to do it. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. Is that ball two or three? I don't know. Maybe three. Pacific Trim got a little blistering on a walk-in seat, but he still loves it with my heart. The blistering doesn't bother me at all. As long as it doesn't lead to chipping, that's where I would be freaking out. But it is what it is. $530 million in present. Rodcom 69, thank you. It's not that it's impressive. I think Greg, now, if you're still here, I think Greg had put up a score in the 600 or 800 mils. I can imagine he probably has just under 3,000 plays on his by now. Rodcom 69, that's for the bit, buddy. Every bit counts. Sorry, guys, just getting caught up. No, no worries. I don't understand. Bill will kick someone's... Oh, did I miss some fighting words? Shut up. Are you talking about me while I'm playing? I don't think so. Okay. Bill will kick someone's ass if you give him the... Oh, you know why? Because you don't like any noise or talking in the back. No, I don't like when people say my name. Is that... Seriously? Yeah, I hate that. So when you guys are talking and I hear... Hold on. Let's test this out. Steve. Yep. Just checking. Did he drink? Well, he is a better man than I am. And he can lift a hell of a lot more than I can. Hey, it is what it is. Hey, Penn State is here. What's up, Penn Stadium? What's up, Scott? Thank you, sir. Are the picks of the blistering? You can check it out. I mean, it is what it is. It's not the end of the world. If it's not chipping, whatever. That's exactly what it is. If it's not chipping, who cares? Well, here's the other thing, too, man. All right, so, you know, people ask me why I sold World, right? And it was because it was too nice of a game for me to... Taco Pizza, thank you. 250 bets. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. It was too nice of a game for me to have because I didn't love the game. If you love the game, dude, you're going to wear it to the wood anyway. You know, Wizard of Oz. My Wizard of Oz is never going anywhere. So to me, I don't care if I chip the play field, break whatever, it's going to get fixed, dude, and I'll play field swap that sucker. So, you know. So Pacific Trim is asking or is recommending if you want to see pictures of blistering, you can just go check it out on WebMD. And then you'll find out that you have like three days to live because of your play field blistering, and then that's the end of your life. Yeah, but then he was going to go from that to, dude, it'll find a hair follicle on you that's, you know, some sort of detrimental. I literally had instances where I'd go on WebMD, more so back in the day, because of something obscure that I thought was just kind of odd, and then, like, literally I had convinced myself that I could have, like, 14 days. Rockcom thinking for the... Rockcom 69. 48 bits. Thank you, buddy. Dude, my wife is the same way, dude. She'd go online, dude, and come up with all this crazy crap, dude. And it's like, you know. Well, listen, I'm not a hypochondriac, but I like to learn about my ailments. So in the event of an apocalypse, I could be a serviceable doctor or an assistant. Because based on symptoms, I've got a pretty wide range of, yeah, like I know what I'm doing. Okay. Yeah. So you'd make a good field nurse. Whatever it takes. I'm just kidding, man. No, hey. Nothing wrong with being a field nurse. Hey, no, no, no. We watch Smash, dude. We know how it goes. That's right. I learn about my ailments. Yeah, you know what, man? You buy what you love and, you know. I mean, here. You know, I think another good analogy on this is like buying a car, right? Hold on one second because we'll address that. Go ahead. Dude, buying a car, right? So if you're going to buy a brand-new Corvette, what's the point of putting it in the garage if you're never going to drive it? That's like saving your life for the next guy. If you're going to buy it, man, enjoy it. You only live once. I hear you. Radicom is asking, he's assuming that all the big scorers are from Chaos Multiball. Seems to be a little imbalanced with scoring. Yeah, well, I think Chaos Multiball is the main multiball to get into. And if you're stacking on that and you've got two-time play field multiplier, that is there to exploit. So I think that's where you do get some scoring. And I would venture to say that every top scorer that's on this game right now had a little chaos multiple playing a little bit of a role. And I don't know that that's a bad thing necessarily. Ryan, TurboGrafx7, what up, brother? Hey, what's up, Ryan? I was perusing some other channels the other night. And I noticed that Ryan was in a lot of the same channels that I was in. I wanted to have a side conversation with him, but I didn't want to look like I was out there to have a conversation with somebody else. You've got to dedicate the attention of the streamers at that point. I get it. Not that you guys need to do that here, because we prefer to see the chat going on here. Oh, yeah. Yeah, chat's what makes it. You know what? Birdo drink one. Honestly, that's my plan with Wizard of Oz. I plan on getting another playfield for it just for when I want to playfield swap it, because I know I'm going to win that thing out of the woods. Just sell it before you playfield swap it. Are you out of your mind? Why would you playfield swap Wizard of Oz? Because I can. I didn't tell that you can. Get another one. No. I want to clear coat mine and do it up. That's a lot, man. I'll tell you what. If it wasn't for the guys that bought my Hobbit bringing it out of the basement, I would have sold the house with Hobbit down here. Because I wouldn't have brought it out. Because your stairs suck. My stairs are not good. That game's a heavy mother. Yeah, but what's heavier, dude? Twilight Zone or Hobbit? Hobbit. Not by a whole lot. Yeah, I think 50, 75. That's a lot. 25% of your weight almost. Yeah, but you got better carts. Nice job, man. Man. It's a 128? Dude, I couldn't hit that O on KS for the... You got a good cart now. You can live with me. K of three. You're up. Oh, Ryan's saying get that Oz ready for him. He's ready to pull his trigger, Bill. No. No. So is that the consensus? Is that Ryan? Ryan, Ryan? Yeah. Oh, what up, brother? Hey, dude, why buy it, man? Just come over and play it. It's a hell of a lot easier to do that. So what's the consensus? Heaviest fan, is it Hobbit? I've never moved to Hobbit. Hobbit or Woz? Yeah, I mean, wide bodies, right? Yeah. So I had a Hobbit at my house for, I don't know, what, two months? And, dude, that stuck in and out. But I got a straight shot, so it wasn't as terrible. Sure. But it was still not good. Pacific Trim says, Twilight Zone, I'm still two of his movers getting it up my stairs. Yeah, man. You know what else is heavy? Roadshow. Probably. Yeah, Mo Man. I had a really tough time getting that out of a basement. Lord Helmet, I believe. It was not fun. Pirates sucks, too. I don't think Wonka was too bad, though. In comparison. Well, once you get in a wide body, you're just getting all around heavier, man. Yeah, but, you know, I mean, here. I'll go Wonka is kind of a bit heavier. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, Wonka's loaded. For sure. That O shot is getting me now, too. Oh, dude, that O shot. No. Yeah. Not good on my hands. I see being extremely heavy. Hercules. Hercules. How many people can actually fit a Hercules in their basement? Yeah. In a basement. Yeah. You can even set that up in your garage. That doesn't... Does that even fit through a standard door? No way. And how many people can flip it sideways? I don't even know. Dude, you'd have to have a straight shot coming in your front door right now. You're taking the head off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, without a doubt. Oh, God. Yeah, not in one piece. Yeah. Hercules counts? Hercules. Right? It is a hockey ring, but that's all right. You know what? It kind of doesn't count, though. It's like a one-off. I don't know. Yeah, I wouldn't call that a, you know. I wouldn't put that as a ranking. It's not like a real pin. Yeah. Well, how much does a Hercules weigh? I'm going to guess like 50. You think so? I'm going to guess like 550. Big old cabinet. Yeah. Dude, each sheet of plywood, three-quarters sheet of plywood weighs 80 pounds. And you've got to figure there's four wrapped up in building that cabin. Yeah, buddy. So you're talking 320 pounds just for a cabin with no play field installed. No, dude. Ah, Zach. Monster round turning up. Thanks, buddy. Looking forward to next Monday. Ball does weigh more than a monster. I'd buy that for a dollar. That was a styling countdown to my final score. It's like the pin respected. Hey, hold on. Is this reading? Could you do a mic check? Yeah, it's reading. No, can you hit it on the... Yeah, on the... Yeah, mixer. You mean... Just kill the mic. Hold on. All right. All right. In the twist studio. No, honestly. So code for check the mic means cut the audio. And of course, we. Actually, I'm going to use the rest of them real quick. And I'm not going to ask you to pause for station identification. I'm just going to go around. Monday night secret pinball, baby. I know, right? It's been a good night, though. Yeah, you know what, guys? Hercules is slow as shit. Who? Captain? No, Hercules is slow, man. And I was... I don't know. I was drunk when I played Hercules and I was... Man, this is too slow. Usually games are too quick. Yeah, fun to play once for sure. Yeah. Oh, man. All right. You guys have any issues with Sponge getting to Flipper on JP? No. Not on this machine. Why have you? Wakula? Wakula. Yeah, I was drunk. I was drunk when I played Hercules. Damn it. You're proud with that, Zach? Come on, man. Let's go. Play some drunk Hercules. So, Wakula, what's your game doing, then? Is it, like, not completing that loop? I'm assuming we're still on ball one. Oh, yeah. Bill's killing the ball. So, Ken, have you seen any issues with the plunger getting the ball to the flipper? Oh, on the initial plunge? Yeah, like every so often, one will rattle around, and it doesn't make it back in to feed it right. Oh, so you've seen that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen that. I mean, I would say 14 out of 15 times, 19 out of 20 times, it's fine. Okay. I actually don't mind it. It adds a little randomness, and I'm sure I could probably dial that in if I wanted to. Yeah, Zach's saying we might need to, well, he needs to adjust it. Sounds like it might be a little adjustment thing. Kid Chris-o's here. What's up, Chris Hafer? He says, I got the T-shirt. Man, that Hula Girl is super soft. Super soft. Yeah. That's special. That Hula Girl T-shirt. And I owed Chris a Pirates of the Caribbean T-shirt for the longest time. So I was happy to actually drop that in the mail. Nice, dude. And for those of you that might be waiting on stuff from me, I know Lord Helm has been patient on a prize that he won that's finally shipped. Yeah, me too, man. It's usually not of a fault of my own. I'm usually waiting to get something from the person that's supplying the prize. But on the Pirates of the Caribbean t-shirt, it was half the supplier and half me getting it out. So I take full responsibility for that. Good times. Yeah, well, Keely, I don't know, man. You might want to just reach out to your distributor, reach out to Stern. And 50% of the time is probably a little excessive. I would say realign the shooter rod to make sure that's scoring up in the ball. That's a good point. At that point, you can loosen it up and center it. If you hit the ball off center and it's not guided by the shooter line, it's going to rattle its way up. It should be a pretty simple fix. And if you're having an issue with that, right, yeah, so like you said, contact your distributor or even email us, specialwindlitpinballpodcast at gmail.com. That's myself and Bill and our buddy Steve Beattie. We can probably walk you through something like that. That's no problem. Happy to help out when we can. Bill, so you played pretty good pinball with a bad back, actually. No, I'm just pilled up. At least extended ball times. That's it, man. I'm just pilled up. You're pilled up? Dude, honestly, when I drink, dude, I actually throw it out a lot better. I've been partaking for a good part of the latter half of the day. So, and I can tell you, like, the reason why the code update literally got in 42 seconds before the stream started is because I forgot that I needed to install it after I had extracted it. A couple other issues tonight that I forgot that I will be happy to share next week. Don't want to share that this week. No. No, just muscle relaxers. I don't think JP is a long ball player. Just like any game, you get to the occasional rhythm. It can be a longer ball time, but I don't think it's a fast ball time. But this is our third stream. So what's happening now, dude, is we're getting more accustomed to the shots, and we're becoming more disciplined with them and knowing what not to shoot at and how to correct the ball. And as we continue more alcohol to offset. Yeah. Because normally I'm pretty good at hitting almost that double super skill shot. Tonight I'm having a hard time hitting the ramp off the launch and into that right flipper. And it's because. It's because I'm partaking this evening. But it's been a long week. I am digging the... Good thing it's only Monday. Well, the week started on Sunday, and that was tough. Wow, yeah, I mean, you've got to get through that, too. Yeah, Local to the Rings, I think, is known for good long ball times, in all honesty. Sorry, guys, we're getting caught up here. Jason, no, you missed it, dude. We've had a couple of those ah-ah-ahs already. So there's definitely the Phil Bob installed. Yeah, I think JP would do great en route. Dude, it's iconic. You don't have to see the movie to want to play it. Nice growing up. Yeah, Lord of the Rings is sitting left of Jurassic Park, man. But, cool game. Yeah, that's a good score though. Colonel, what did you think of it? I know our thoughts. I mean, we've been kind of transparent about playing it and what we thought of it. But, curious on your thoughts. I really like the game now. I liked the game before, but I really like how much the code has kind of developed the game today. I feel like you're more of a first-time. So, Kid Cristo, how is his font blue? What? His text is blue. Oh, I think you can set that. You know what's going on over here? Here's the thing, though, brother. you can get a Jurassic Park for a year or two maybe even three down the road Lord of the Rings dude, unless they vaulted you you're kind of stuck so that makes sense why you go after that he's special alright so oh there's a tilt bob on here no there's a tilt bob on there I didn't put the tilt bob on Oktoberfest because I knew you were going to buy it and I didn't mind if we were going to abuse the hell out of that game, so we could shake that. Now, there's a tilt in here. One thing I'm noticing, though, like one of my scoring strategies on this game where I put up some pretty big games, on ball one on the launch, I'd pound the Jeep, and I'd set up the T-Rex event to start, because then when I'd hit the T-Rex ramp, I'd have a mode started, and I'd have a T-Rex event going on, and I could stack them. And now it looks like when I hit that Jeep three times, that T-Rex event just kind of already starts into a multiball, and I can't stack it with a mode. So, changing some strategies here a little bit on the fly. Good times, good times. We are using the tilt bob, though. Chrono861 says, exactly my thoughts, and I could trade the Lord of the Rings later for a Jurassic Park premium. It's a great thing with these pins, guys. The other thing is this. If you buy a pinball machine, and especially you, since you buy it at the right price, it's essentially a big piggy bank. It's a big piggy bank. and sometimes even a little extra money is found in that piggy bank. But at the very least, you can pull your money out when you need it to buy something else, whether it be pinball-related or not. And number two, you could potentially make a little bit of money. And you've got trade bait. Trade bait. And that's where I love trading. You do trade. I like to barter. I don't think I've done it. Oh, no, I retract. I've done one trade. No clear co-gate on this game so far. you keep saying Dodger we got Dodger here let's see what we got going yeah so I like bartering because at that point without financing or finances trading hands it's already there it's already there both parties are happy you know maybe and I do like that yeah so Almonica says we trade games with other collectors all the time I think that's cool yeah absolutely did we thank Radcom69 for the 48 bits because if we didn't I want to thank him now 60 minutes ago but right now Kimo4578 followed the channel and Kimo or Kimo4578 it's good to have you come join us here every single Monday we all hang out and chat who played newest game what will you accept and trade for my Gottlieb spring break you know I've got an alternate trans light for spring break so all I'm missing is the pen and I can throw that in there I don't know Let's talk. Maybe a couple table packs for your virtual pen. Oh, Birdo Drink. Hey, Birdo Drink, come on. Thanks for hanging out with us for three months. Three months subscription. The loyalty. Thank you, Birdo. I really appreciate it. We all appreciate it. Nice job, Bill. See you over here. You're flipping over there, right? You're not just like in pain? No, I'm just holding it. You're just trapping up? I'm just trapping up and just kind of meditating. Like it seems like good games. Good times, good times. Ken, you could do a nice trade for a Creasel Gottlieb. Yeah. Hey, I'm not opposed to the Gottliebs. Although of all the pinball kind of machines that I've owned, Gottliebs, I don't know that I've ever owned a Gottlieb. I haven't yet. But if anyone in chat has a Cactus Jack suit, I might get rid of it. Cactus Jacks watch by Bill Webb. Absolutely, dude. You love Cactus Jacks. That's a Jon Norris pin. It is a Jon Norris pin. And Jon Norris is working at Deep Root. So maybe he's going to do Cactus Jacks Continued over there at Deep Root. That would be a great spoof. Oh, good. You like that? That might, dude, it won't sell for. I know somebody that would buy it. Come on. You would upgrade. You would get Cactus Jacks. You'd pay $900 for a Cactus Jacks Continued upgrade. I would. I would. Southwest Pennsylvania pinhead. Oh, there's my guy. Southwest Pennsylvania pinhead. Thanks for 100 bits. More importantly, thanks for coming back in the chat, man. It's not a stream without you, buddy. Bill's Cactus Corner. Dennis says, I see what you did there, Grandma. Well played. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Todd, where did you pick a Mario Brothers as far as the game goes? I haven't seen them in a while. Bill's Cactus Corner. I'm going to save that ball up there. I took the Schmitty special to my Tyrus and got the clear smooth. No more teardrop. Thanks, that flipping out pinball for the technique. So is that where you take like a flamethrower and you remelt the clear down to where it re-levels itself? Is that what that's going on there? Berto Drink One says, I'm doing a new old stock Shack Attack Playfield swap right now. If you're going to have a Gottlieb, might as well have a nice one. Hey, makes sense. Very cool, man. Hey, so you should do this. You should send some pics our way, especially on the Timbal Podcast. Because for those of you that don't know who we are, I'm Ken and this is Bill. So we are the co-host of a special Pinball podcast out of Chicago, Illinois. And we very simply host this channel for Zach and Nicole Menning and Flippin' on Pinball. They let us play the newest games. They bring them here all the time, and we stream it, and we just all hang out and chat. So thanks, Zach and Nicole, and thanks to everybody else. So I am Ken. I am Bill. And he is Bill. And I'm the machinist feed. Wife's hair dryer and a credit card, did Chris Ostez. Or is it Ben and Kyle? We should do a show Ben and Kyle Right Hey everybody I'm Kyle And this is Ben We'll just do the That'll be like Our spoof podcast Like our All of our like Alter ego Comes out In the Ben and Kyle show I like it But like our Industry professionalism Comes out in the Ken and Bill show Yeah Is that me Player three That's you Now Bill's getting Ready to take it That's you Kyle He's got the Eye of the tiger With his bad back I'm sorry Alright I think this might be My last game That's you Kyle No Your last game Yeah Maybe one more and then I'm out. Hey, thank you very much, Southwest. Thank you for the win. Oh, what a minute. Yes, and together we are Wild Stallions. I like it. Yeah, you know what, though? It's coming up on the time of year with fall coming, the winter. Dude, I mean, it makes sense to get all the playfield spots out now. Ben and Jerry's been paying for it. I'm hungry. I think it was a nice game. Yeah. Can anyone hear us? A virus has taken over the system. This looks like Nedry's post. Why would Nedry do this? Now they actually did come out with a bill of tests We be in on that one Or you weren a fan of it You know what I wouldn be like 100 in I have to see it I'd have to see it. That O-Shot sucks. I cannot find the O-Shot. That O-Shot. You've got right ramps to me. I have a hard time finding anything that starts with a... Hey! There's a joke in there somewhere. What's that? Paul Grinwood, buddy. You got one. We'll go over it. Right now, O-Shot. O-Shot. The O-Shot. Oh. All right. Hey. Wah, wah, wah. Whoa. Hey. Oh. Southwest Pennsylvania, Pinhead. Thank you so much for the 121 bits. I'm going to buy a scratch off, or I'm going to buy a pick three tomorrow, one, two, one. Let's see if we can turn, not with your bits, but I like the odd number there, one, two, one. That's what she said. Says, this is the last day of the pinball podcast. Little Jason Fowler. Jason, you're still here, man. That's awesome. Jason's still here. So Jason was very nice today, because I visited his stream. He was streaming Gorgar for one of the last times, and I was asking him about his portable streaming rig that he built that I am now also building, and he basically told me that it was a waste of my time. I was like, oh, shit. Jeez, Jason. So I kept asking follow-up questions to see if I could find a loophole in his lack of enthusiasm for his build that he's now transitioning into something else, and the lack of enthusiasm just became like an increased amount of depression for me. Oh, no. So I am rethinking the approach on this. But we'll see what happens. We will see what happens. That was good shit. Grim Tim 1980 is laughing out loud. What's up, Grim Tim? Thanks for coming in the chat, buddy. Always good to see you here. Yeah, Grim Tim. Fogren. Oh, Fogren here? Fogren, and he's at an airport right now. Where you going, buddy? Fogren. I love Dave. He's always somewhere. He's working on a pin. He's in an airport. He's working on a car. He's at the aquarium, but he's got streams out in the background. Yeah. And he's actually communicating. I do like it. So Jason, he's offering the phone call. All right. Yeah, we'll get it going. Yeah. We'll get it going. Jason, I might want to hear you on some after hours, buddy. Could be some good times, man. After hours might be coming a little early tonight, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, I think. Okay, so one thing I was noticing on Jurassic Park, like when you start these modes, like before when I would hit both flipper buttons because I already know what the animation sequence is, but a lot of times you had to wait for it to kind of work its way through. Now, I think on the last mode that I started, when I double flipped it, it just canceled it and got me going. So I do want to try that out. I want to try double flipping, not because I don't want to see the animations because I don't appreciate them, but when you're in the groove, it lessens a little bit of the stop and go. I've seen them. Right, exactly. So I will be trying that out. But so far, so good. Dirty Toes B says, My friend said it was one character and one song away from being just Dinosaur Island. Ooh. Prim101980, are you going to have your bill done before Chicago? The bill done. Are you talking about the bill? Are you talking about the re-theme of the meteor, or are you talking about something else? David O'Donohue says, Bill, seriously, do some lunges. Stretch them quite. You know what I'm doing? You're going to loosen the back up. I'm walking better today. The problem is that I'm just wrecked from that. You've got a little stand. Yeah. A little stand. A little stand, and it creates a bacterial infection. It's no good. Oh, Grimson says, you're talking about the camera rig. Yeah, so the goal is to have three of these rigs done before Expo, actually. Something tells me I'll have a pretty important conversation with Jason over at the Slash Safe Pinball Podcast. And he says, Cindy's yelling at me about the raft. I'll be back. Oh, the trash. That makes a big difference. Well, Cindy, tell her we say hi. Cindy's yelling at me about the raft. Hey, tell her to come close. I'll be back, hopefully. Yeah, I would love to talk to Cindy. Cindy's one of my favorite pinball wives I've ever met in my entire life. Such a nice person. And then Grim Tim 1980. So ladies and gentlemen, Grim Tim 1980. It's a buddy, Tim. And he is working with Todd Tucky at TNT Amusements. So if you guys watch that show, it's him and a twin brother. I had a really nice conversation with Tim on the phone a couple days ago. And what these guys have been doing at TNT Amusements for years have been incredible. So everybody, Grim Tim 1980, Tim from TNT Amusements. I hope you don't mind that I blew your cover there, Tim. It took me a second to put two and two together. Because I've been partaking in the beverages this evening. Flippin' on Pinball says, Bill's injury was due to rough sex. Make it hurt in the garden, out in the dirt. Name that, too. I can't even name that one, dude. I'm not allowed to name that one. Splash State Pinball Podcast. Thanks for the 106 bits. I'm going to play a 106 pick three tomorrow. Thanks, man. It's the 121. Thanks, guys. Yeah, we had some good laughs. We're going to be connecting at Expo with a little something special there, Tim. Looking forward to you guys hanging out and coming out this way. So, Tim is... Honey, come back. Look at this ranch. What was the other major slip-up I had? It was the Elvira mattress of horror instead of the hills of horror. Yeah. Wasn't it? Oh, we had a few, dude. We've had a few. A few. Monster Bash 98, thank you for subscribing. Hey! Monster Bash 98, subscribe with Prime. Yes, that's what it was, man. Your sub will be there in two days or less. No, seriously, thank you. Gary Hardy nailed it, what it was. Mistress of the Night was what you called it. It's the Mistress of the Night, right? Yeah, yeah, Mistress of the Night. And that was just a misread on, oops. I need to get some context. Yeah. I mean, seriously, because we're looking at a monitor, and I'm going to go play my ball. I know. But can you read that like no problem? And I've got the computer in front of me, and I think it's easier for me to read the monitor, but I still make mistakes. But it takes me a while to respond, but I'm like, am I reading this right? Well, the mistress of, what was it? The mattress of the night. Elvira 3. Mattress of the night from Stern Pinball. Hey, pop quiz, though. Does anyone know what model in your car should you drive? Without going on Google? It does have a custom throw. Three seconds. Three seconds, guys. Come on. I don't know. How do you know this? What is she driving like today? No, dude. Her famous car. Okay. It was redone on college. I know it. Come on, man. There's got to be one other person besides me out of these people. Oh, come on, Dave. Oh, my God. Dude. Don't use a black light. This is some of the worst pinball you're ever going to see in your life. Yes, Terry Hardy. What are you going for over there? I'm going for the O. I'll do the O. No O's tonight, guys. All right, if you guys don't guess it in a minute, I'll just tell you. I know, dude. I know. No, it wasn't a 2002 freeze. It was an 03 freeze. I don't get that one, Todd, but okay. No, I think Stern has two more left, by the way. No. No. Yeah, Ken's good. Ken's getting owed out. 1959 Thunderbird, by the way. 1959 Thunderbird. Couldn't do that. I think I need to hydrate myself. What a better way to do that than with a Coors Light. So I think I should be playing better in about six minutes. Do we reverse the order at this point? Now, the other thing is we don't have any pin quests tonight. So normally we would have, like, pin quests. We would have this fancy pin quest opening. Well, guess what? There's no pin quest of the week because Neil, the nice husband that he is, decided to spend time with his wife on her birthday. Good for him. I don't get it. And we have no pin quest. So right now I'm just wandering aimlessly, shooting for high scores without quests. So I think you want to reverse the order? You know what? This really messes me up. No pin quest. A little bit. A little bit. But we are still at Penn Stadium here rocking out tonight. So let's do this. Hey, yo, yo. Do you want to go first again? Are you going to? Yeah, we'll do one more, but then I'm out. You're out? Like, out like you're not going to play anymore, or out like you're going to literally leave? Out. I'll do one more game, and then I'm literally going to leave. All right. Really? I've been banned from the studio. Wow. 817, it's a new record for your early... It is, though. All right. Let's bring down the whiskey. Don't... So, right now... You can hear me, right? Oh, I can. Okay. Do you want to mess with him a little bit and say his name? See if you can hear it. That's a secret. It's a magic show. Or do we not bother a guy with a bat now? I don't know if Bill's fast. He can't hear us. He can't hear us talking right now. Bad, bad Bill. Bill does not like to hear his name being called while he's playing. He gets super pissed off. He's good at it. So, what I'm thinking is... I don't know. Never mind. We're going to do it. Hold on. All right, let's try it. I mean, he hates us. Let's do it. Bill. I heard that. Don't poke the bill. Now, no matter when he drains, he's going to get a chance. Right. No matter when he drains, it's going to be because I called him out. But does he know it's me? Because I'm going to say it was you. Oh, he's looking at you. Can you hear that? Oh, you busted. Oh, he's trapping up. Oh, hey. He's trapping up. All right, all right. Okay, so I'm going to do my job. Chat is totally yelling Bill right now. Oh, geez. Hey, Grim Tim. Grim Tim, 1980. Thank you. Oh, he's gifting subs. Oh, nice, dude. Thank you, buddy. David Dennis, thanks for the 17 bits. Hey, Grim Tim, our buddy from TNT, he gifted subs, man. Thank you, bro. I appreciate it. Very, very nice of you guys. Oh, hey, Bill. Is that distracting you? That isn't funny. At all? Oh, snap. Bill's going to jump the table. He's going to crack a plastic bottle of Fanta over my head. An unlabeled Fanta, so I won't even get like... Yeah. Ken can typically... Don't say Bill and don't say Fanta. Ken can typically read my face. You. And I have a certain look, I guess, when I get... You do. I've seen it four times now. This is the first... This is the fourth. At you, though. No, no, I've seen it, like, at least twice towards me. I've seen it once towards somebody that we mutually know, twice towards me, and then maybe three times towards me. Because the original face towards somebody else, like, sets the standard. It was, like, the control group. Like, I knew to compare all pissed-off faces from that face. And, dude, yeah, the next day after the first time you saw it, you were like, dude, you didn't have to say a damn thing, and I knew what you were thinking. Hide the knives. Don't panic. Flip has followed, and we couldn't be happier to have you aboard. Thank you so much. Don't panic. Don't be a stranger. And if you've been lurking, make your presence known. Come out here and chat or give us a call tonight in after hours, which may happen sooner than later. Because Ken's having a good time tonight, guys. If you get real. If you get a little sloppy. If you get real. A little bit. And I've been neglecting chat. If you don't mind catching up. Just don't say my name when I'm playing because that would upset me. Yeah, dude, we are. Seven weeks away? Six weeks away? No. So we're getting close, Scott. Yeah, it's getting real. No, we're not having a life after that. DNA collected. I don't think... Don't trip. What's up? Don't trip. All right. Ken needs a trip. Hey, thanks, Scott. Ah, thanks for the free bits, man. Appreciate it. Free bitties. I'm double flipping, but it's not ending the animation. Okay. Here we go. 30 toes. Happy birthday, man. Oh, if there's a birthday, we have to sing the happy birthday. I'm waiting on you. All right. Who is it? You and your double flipping. Not double clutching like you should. Oh, God. Sorry for my fast and furious coach there. That's all right. I told you not to mention a birthday when I'm playing pinball. That's B-word. Okay. Who's birthday is it? Later, Lord Helmet. Have a good night, brother. Bye, Lord Helmet. Thanks, buddy. Do we have a birthday or did you guys just do that? Dirty Toes B. What is it? Dirty Toes B. Dirty Toes B? Just drink it and enjoy your birthday. All right, here we go. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Dirty Toast Bee. Happy birthday to you. Atta boy. Cheers, buddy. Poor girl. I'm hoping it's a boy if it's Dirty Toast. But hey, whatever it takes. Hey, now. Hey, Mrs. Dirty Toast Bee. Mrs. Dirty Toast. I'm sure you're loving the husband's screen name there. Very appealing. You know he's not going to be picking up any... He doesn't even hear a chat with Dirty Toesby. Let's get Mr. Dirty Toesby. Good times. Hey, don't panic flip. Thanks for the six pips. Appreciate it. Don't panic flip. He's used to the Dirty Toesby. Good times. Hey, it's all about having fun, guys. We're all a big family here. We're hanging out on Monday nights. Come and relax and chill out and play some pinball and watch some mediocre pinball. copyright strike, says MPT3K. I think that's it. Bill, I love that quote. What quote did I miss? Oh, granny shifting, not double clutching like you should. A little fast and furious. Which in drag racing you wouldn't be double clutching, but whatever. Thanks for the 100 bits, but we should be sending you like 100 bits. Thank you. Or maybe enough bits to get a little pedicure going on on Dirty Toast. Something. I appreciate it. It's nice of you, man. I appreciate it. Some industrial nail clippers? I don't know. And I appreciate the fact that your wife's tuned into a pinball stream with you. I think that's great. That's good marital building right there. It is. How long have you been married, Dirty Toast Pete? See, dude, if that was my house, it would cost me, like, a hot tub, or, you really want me to watch this? So, kudos to you, man. Hey, Tim, thanks so much for the 100 Bits, man. And again, Tim is our buddy from TNT Amusements. For those of you that have watched that iconic channel for years and years and years, it's great to have him here tonight just hanging out in chat. Thank you so much. And thanks for the bits, man. Again, we should be sending bits your way. The wife picked out the first pinball machine. That is awesome. I've got to know what that is. We've been married for four years now. I'm hoping it was a Baywatch. Dirty Toast Beat. That'd be a pretty cool way four years ago. And you could have got $102,000 four years ago. You could probably have got $115,000. MP3K, what up? So I'm going to suggest this. Anybody going to Chicago Pinball Expo should wear a name tag with their Twitch handle on it. That would help. That would be awesome. Kerry Hardy, I love your comment here. I'm waiting for Steve to catch it. Yeah, I'm lost. Alright, I'm cut up. Nice, that's a good game. Judge Dredd was my first real DMV. I was always like, I want a pinball with Rams, the DMV. That was my thread. Yeah, that's cool. That's one I haven't had yet. Wizard of Oz was one of my favorites, so she did good there. Yeah. Oh, shit. T. Crisso with... Damn! Sorry, guys. Just trying to catch up. Hey, C. Crisso, we need a brick shot tonight. Well, yeah. Crisso, we might need a brick shot up in here. Oh, 10 others in chat. Nice, buddy. Diverge. Don't know her voice. Her real name is Poopette. All right. Poopette. T. Crisso, thank you very much for the bits, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, dude. messages are coming in real fast you start reading it like we were saying earlier it's kind of hard to read yeah this GP is awesome oh Ted go for the O yes she does have good taste he can't hit the O Dave why are you in a rental car What is he driving? He's driving and switching. And chatting. Can you rewind a second? Ken's going to crack up. Do Penn Stadium and Wonka? Oh. I think it's kind of a must game. Yeah. That Munsters. Munsters. Munsters, too? A little dark in the middle? Yeah. Dude, you have to have that. What's that all? It's so hard to get that. Oh. I often lose the interest and just fall asleep. Yeah, I'm going to fall asleep while Ken's trying to get the L. Oh. Heyo. Ken can't get it up. Is it Monday or is it Saturday? Dude, it feels like it's hangover day. Oh, it's hangover day. It's like Sunday, fun day. Yeah. Right? Monday, fun day. I don't know what kind of fun you had today. I didn't have any fun. A little bit of fun. You know what? Yes, it is Tuesday in Australia. No, it's Monday. Rorden actually sent me a message on Monday, but because it was Tuesday over in his time, he was actually correct. Oh, you... Rordan knows what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah, okay. You have no idea. No, I don't. No one else has an idea. No. That's fine. You had a private conversation with somebody. Nobody knows. What? Nobody knows. No. That's a... Well, you don't know, but maybe you'll eventually know. All Minnesota. That's where Dave's at. Minnesota. Dave, you doing some fishing up there, buddy? Nah, Scott, I'm not going to do that. Do it, Bill. I'm not calling a standoff, dude. I don't like that, man. Bill. People like me because I'm honest, right? I'm not going to sell my soul to scream Ken's name and disrupt him during a game. Oh, we sold our soul. Dude, I can't hit the O-shot. Scott at Penn Stadium was telling Bill to call your name. It does not make a difference if somebody calls my name. Right. I don't care. I don't care. As a professional athlete, I'm used to lots of people calling my name. But if anybody gives me an adrenaline rush, I don't care. So that O-shot. That O-shot's a... Crystal's got like a whole new... I'm loving the midnight blue. It matches. So it's weird that it matches his tag. He's saying his kids got called off school today for too much rain. Seriously, Frick's shot. Wow. Have you ever heard of such a thing? He says, me, a little bit. And then Grim Tim's talking to Penn Stadium, probably, unless there's something going on in Pennsylvania. I haven't been back to the shop since the weekend hit, so I'm not sure if they came in yet. Good times, good times. Getting caught up. Right on. Right on. They're figuring shit out. Christine8881, speaking of being honest, Ken and Bill, if you could have one of each other's pins, which would it be? Now, this is going to be easy for Bill right now, because right now all I have is a broken-ass meteor, because I've liquidated my pins in order to build that garage studio that's in the processing right now. And Dirty Toast B, thanks for the 100 bits, man. Looking forward to that, man. Thank you so much. And Kid Crystal, thanks for the 600 bits. I wasn't there when that went down. Thank you both, you guys. Very, very nice. It's a nice married family man there donating to the stream. So that's you. So if I were to take one of Bill's pins, though, right now, I don't even know what I would take. Because I haven't been at Bill's house in like six or seven months. But you kind of know what he's got going on. I haven't been to that man that's playing pinball's house in a while. Oh, the man you mentioned. The man that's over there playing pinball. Right. Cools down the whole school district for rain. How much rain? That's how it is. Anyhow. Anyhow. Hey. What's a grail pin for everybody at this point? No. Hang on. Hang on. Yeah. What pin of Bill? I mean, the man who's playing Jurassic Park? I would probably... I would take your walker. Oh, shit. Well, you didn't listen. It wasn't about me. Dirty Toes B used 100 bits and it's like before it's like he threw 100 pennies down at the bar right now because he just lit me up I don't even know how to count them all do you need to like thank you Dirty Toes shift heart shift H all of those I was hoping those were each 100 bits because I was getting ready to shut this stream down and go buy a Jurassic Park premium oh hey thanks Dirty Toes B I appreciate it man oh there you are so 5 or 6 inches closes down the schools in the St. Louis area of uh and that's where you know what I'm talking about And then Cardboard Live says, hey, I want to make a sick Twitch extension for pinball, but Stern and JJP won't respond. Well, that's because Jack's in Europe right now. We have over 50 million interaction worth of magic extensions. Tell Zach to hit me up, and we will integrate flipping out product sales or something. It sounds lucrative. I really don't know what it means, but it sounds like Zach and Cardboard Live might be able to have a conversation there. That's awesome. Thanks for coming in the chat, Cardboard Live. Yeah. That's awesome. Flippin' cardboard lies. Dirty Toes B says, Dream pin for me is Creature from the Black Lagoon. And that's fitting for somebody that's Dirty Toes B because you figure fungus and hot stuff, like stuff that's been permeating green. Yeah, yeah. I do. Dirty Toes B is one of my favorite numbers in chat. Because I got favorite names. Like, I like Taco Pizza. I'm liking Dirty Toes B right now. Southwest Pennsylvania Pinhead is awesome because it took me like five streams to figure out how to shorten it. I'm swapping pinhead or whatever it was. I love Lord of the Rings breath. Lord of the Rings breath. Because when he explained it, he's like, I like Lord of the Rings, but I just added breath at the end of it. That's like so awesome. Oh, man. Hey, Cardboard Lies cheered rewards to 50,000 chats. That's huge. Cardboard Lies with 2,000 bits. Thank you, Cardboard Lies. Thank you. Thank you. Huge, huge. Unbelievable. Let's do a little thank you here. That's huge. Yeah, we did all right. Thank you so much, CarborLife. That is awesome. Boom. CarborLife comes out of nowhere. Dirty Toast swag you talk about. Yeah, thanks for the live boot, guys. That was awesome, man. It's always good to have somebody in and blow it up a little bit. That's good times. Welcome. I hope you stick around because this is a fun stream. Should have an answer in two weeks. Now, MidToastSurf says, I sent Jack a carrier pigeon. Should have an answer in two weeks. Well, but in all fairness, I think where he's at overseas, it's a rough zone for carrier pigeons. It's right past the Bermuda Triangle. It's an old pigeon zone. Carry a pigeon down. They've got to carry a pigeon down. Cardboard Live is used in 2,000 bits, man. I love it. Thank you. Thank you so much. I did not send that. I'm not sure what you didn't send, Doug. All right, so back to, let's see what's going on. Ricky Ruru, another great name, says, Fight style, mid-coast serve. Hey, Jason, say hello. Grim Tim, our buddy from TNT, says, Todd said, we go them Penn Stadium. Thank you so much. Remember, Todd had a couple questions with them in the episode. So good times. Jack's climbing Everest with a Sherpa. I don't know what he's doing. Thank you for the awesome content. Huge pinball fan and considering adding a couple machines to our new office space. Awesome. I'm biased but I'm not please reach out to Flip N Out Pinball because you're not going to find somebody that's more involved and dedicated to the pinball community and will put more time and effort not just providing content but offering customer service and a good pinball purchasing experience than with Zach and Nicole many at Flip N Out Pinball great people thank you Zach and Nicole without this you know I mean this wouldn't be possible there would be no Mondays no like there wouldn't be this no this is cool this is fun man I hope you guys have a fun day. It's like Friday night bowling or Thursday night bowling back in the day, man. You're right. You know. Monday night pinball. Nippa now. Maybe we should stream a pinball night one night. Or not a pinball, a bowling night. Say what? Yeah. Say what now, man? Catching up here. Parking up. Playing. He's playing. Slow her. Yeah, they're all slow. I was going so. It was. I had an extra slip. Yeah, they are definitely a big boot for pinball. Great people. I love it. You're still going for the O. It's been three games to hit this O shot. Yeah, you know what? Nor can I. Thank you all for tuning in to the Mediocre Pinball Players. Touched by flipping out pinballs. Thank you, Zach. Oh, my goodness. I'm surprised he just didn't walk away from the machine. Wait for a reset. Hey, that's multiball. All right. Big points, fans. Yes, he did. Dave, you made Monday's happy days. Yeah, right? Thanks, Zach. Monday's our happy days. I'm going to leave that one right there, Jason. I want him to catch up and read that. Can't play the Yacht Rock in the background, though. Sorry. Yes, man any good mods for the probe. You know I can see the barbosol cans Okay, they're coming up dude was pretty pretty the new Raptor tower and then moving Oh Gives loaded as oh, I love it Yeah, Ricky that's what I'm probably gonna get Yes, Dr. John, I can't argue with that one either. H, yeah. H is okay. The O is, the S is really the one that pisses me off. You know what? Don't panic, Flip. I would actually love to get a Jeep printed, or not the Jeep. the Explorer printed that smashed and mounted upside down where that Jeep is. That would be cool. That would be cool. So if anyone has a 3D printer in time on their hands and wants to help the brother out, please let me know. You're the only S. You're the only S on this game. Hard stuff. I do, but it makes sense, though, dude. You do it in order, and those are getting harder and harder. Yeah. They go, right. Yeah, I think that Explorer flipped upside down, tire half ripped off, dude, would be a perfect mod. So, Bill, you're right-handed, right? Yeah. So are your right-hand shots to the left side of the play field easier? Yes. Left shot to right. Yes. Okay. Same here. I'd imagine... Hey, yeah, yeah. I totally see what you're saying. Right? Anybody left-handed probably has an easier time hitting the right side of the play field. That makes sense. Hey, Dr. John, dude, if you can get one done, man, I'll probably pay that postage with a smile. Or get it done before Expo, send it with a word. So, you know what, it's just, you guys, man, dude, it's just practice. All right. Free game. Gary Hardy, if you're out, man, dude, thank you much for coming in, brother. Appreciate it. yeah later carry good times man I'll list that metal job richie it's a cool game bane okay sorry I misread that been sleeping a little jacked up. There's a few mod companies Mezzel is one, the mod couple LearMods makes some great stuff, PinStadiums I mean, there's quite a few out there. I don't really know all the mod companies. I can't go look at them all. Yes, they are. Lear Mods is a great sponsor of our podcast. That's right. We had to throw that love in there. And they came out with a Munsters coach that I just put on my Munsters the other day that looks awesome. You've got to come over and play that game. I got Munsters with the Munster coach and the PinStadiums with the Orion's belt. So it's got all sorts of flashing going on. Wait. Oh, there he is. Third. Kind of had a rocking game on that. Did you? Wow. 2-30. Wait. It's not a great score. Yeah, you know, that's the highest level. There you go. Player one. Player one. Bill. Bill actually going on over there. Bad back, Will. I got a record. I got it. Can we mention your name while you're entering? Yeah. Will you accidentally put in something else? Bill. He'll just choke. Bill. Put in BSD. Oh, there's three else. Hey, Bill. Hey. How you doing? Painful, man. I love it. Who's he going for? The whole Bill Webb treatment? Yep. He's doing the whole Shabang. What's he putting in there? What's he being? What's that say, Bill? We need some burrito Bill going. Oh, now that's a cool little animation for, right? Yeah, it's new. We've got some new stuff going on over here. That's new. Nice, nice. That animation was awesome. You like that? Yeah, I think that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, all this stuff is, there's a lot of new animations. Changes to the rule set. This is a cool thing. Guys, the game is exciting right now. It's at code version .87. Now, a lot of times you can't put weight into the code advancement as far as numbers go because a lot of times it's tweaks. But if we're at .87 now, historically speaking, going from a .87 to a 1.0 is a pretty significant jump. And you'll see that in a lot of pins. Deadpool comes to mind. When I thought that pin was fun in the mid-8s or .8s, when it hit 1.0 and all that stacking came into play, it changed the whole dynamic of the pin for the better, and it was already awesome. Oh, yeah. So at .87 right now, guys, in Jurassic Park, it's super fun. If this was 1.0 code and somebody told me that, I would take it as is. Great. It's fun, man. I think it's great right now. I'm not Win Schilling the game here because I would either not discuss it or I would discuss displeasure. I cannot wait to see how this pin hits 1.0. Yeah. I mean, that's the honest truth. The code is going to be epic, says Ricky Ruru. So let me ask you this, Bill. You got one more in you or are you out like trout? I'm out like trout. But I have to acknowledge our buddy Kerry Hardy with the Michael Keaton style. Don't give the kids chili. You gave the baby chili? Yeah, dude. The vans come peeling out that driveway. Dude, that was awesome. Yeah, no, that's a good movie. Mr. Mom. Anybody that has not seen that, it's Terry Garr and Michael Keaton. Yeah. Yeah. Great, great, great movie. 220, 221, whatever it takes. Absolutely. Yeah. All right, so, Bill, I guess we're going to – this is one of the few moments where – Yeah. We always say goodbye to you. Yeah, we do. But at the end of the night, we always wish that we could say goodbye to you, like, finally, like, during the thank yous. Taco Pizza with 225. Thank you, brother. Thank you, Taco Pizza. That's awesome. We've got to get Taco Pizza back on the leaderboard. He's up there for something. I forget what it was. So, Bill, final thoughts here because we're going to play one more game, right? You sure you want to play one more? I'm done. You're done? Yeah. Thanks for powering through me. And hanging on as long as you did. We were talking earlier. It's like the Olympics, dude. We didn't know if we'd have a bill in there. I thought we were going to have to hold you up, and each one of us was going to have to take one of your floppy hands and hit the dude yesterday. There's no way I could have done this yesterday. I know. None. On the Saturday. Dude, yeah, once again. Honestly, this is the first day that's been decent. It's awesome. Well, I'm sure you're on the road to recovery. Yeah. You know we've got a special guest coming in. Did we announce it? We didn't announce it yet. So we don't want to say it's... Oh, did it cut out? My bad. No, I'm just kidding. But it's going to be big. It's going to be epic. It's going to be awesome. Mac Jedi with 200 bits. Thank you, Mac Jedi. I've been having a little side conversation with Mac Jedi on Facebook Messenger. Always good to have Mac Jedi here, so thank you. Thank you so much. Bad-backed burrito bill bailing on the broadcast. Wow, the Ricky Roo-Roo. Bad-backed burrito bill bail. Rubber baby buggy bumpers. Rubber baby buggy bumpers. Bad Back Big Burrito Bill bailing on the broadcast. Bad Back Big Burrito Bill bailing on the broadcast. Bad Back Big Burrito Bill bailing on the broadcast. Ba-ba. All right, man. Well, listen, you got anything to say before you take off? Hey, everybody, you know what? Thank you very much for tuning in every single week and being a part of this. The chat is really what fuels this. Thanks to Zach and Nicole, many from Flip N Out Pinball. Without them, we wouldn't be doing this. So, once again, thank you very much. Please give them a chance. You guys are buying the game. Last thoughts on this game. I don't know if we're going to be playing it next week or not. I don't know what's going to happen. We'll see. Great game. 50-50. Get a chance to check it out. Please do. Yeah, hop on one. Yeah, man. Just feel grateful to the viewers and chat and everything else. So, I mean, honestly, just extremely happy. Well, Bill, thanks for joining us, as always. Thank you for dealing with my nonsense. I hope you're back. I know. I'm a pain in the butt. Bill, Bill. You played easily. I'm just extremely happy. Going to see how it all turns out. I love it, buddy. But we're going to pay some bills as Bill leaves here. Pay some bills for bills. You got a little good morning, good afternoon, good evening? You like your little sign off there? Dude, I'm sorry. I missed what you said. Oh, nothing. Never mind. No, no, no. Dude, I got text coming. Oh, all right. Well, by all means. No, no. That's fine. Do your, the Bill outro. Yeah, the outro for the podcast. Everybody have a good morning, good afternoon, good evening. And don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. Bye, Bill. We'll be right back. We'll be right back down. All right, I'll play two. To heck with him, right? You know what? You better do one. Because if you have a long ball... I'll do one. Thanks, Manic Jedi. Yeah, thank you, everybody in the chat. That always keeps coming back every week. That really feels good. Always having a good time talking to you. And the new code is pretty awesome. Yeah, we had something. We're hopefully going to feel better here soon. Thank you, Zach, man. JP, I already bought, Terry. Wonka at some point. Just not right now. Thank you, Dave. Appreciate it. David Dennis, yes, the spinner champion. I am super surprised on that. I would have to go Jurassic Park over Batman 66. I like Batman 66, but I like the shots in this game a little better. I don't think 66 is a bad game. Just personal preference. My timeline kind of falls more Jurassic Park than the other one. Aw, Kerry, come on, man. You got this. You got all sorts of pinball machines floating around. You can turn one or two into cash, can't you? I know Dave's love for Batman. They are different animals. You know, I think a lot of that comes down to shots and paint. You know, I mean, for Batman 66 to be a really great, great theme, you know, it's just how old you are. Yeah, I saw Jackpot in this thing. Jason, I'll go that route, dude. I mean, Batman 66 did have incredible theme integration. I give you that. Sure. Yeah, one of the best. One of the best, dude. Last action here, I can grab you. $2,500. Yeah. That's got to be a nice last question here. Isn't that funny, Kerry, how quick the money gets thrown into these things? I need to start swiping it, man. I need it done. I need it done. I need it done. And then you turn your head and you're like, good Lord, did I really dump that much money into a game? You guys go all out. Dude, I... You're like... You never felt the whirlwind, did you? When it was all done. I saw it when it was 90% done. Okay. All right. Yeah. Unfluffable. All right. That was beautiful. It was clean. Yeah. It was clean. Jarboard, yeah, I'm going to be... Bill is out of here. This is Bill's twin stepping in. Yeah. We're just holding a few minutes until Ken jumps off. Uh-oh. All right. You heard it there. Zach got a Batman. And guess what? There are no more to be had. No more. All right. Bill's alter ego is Will. Bill Swinwell. Wait, what? Both of them. I don't... Oh, yeah. Yeah, Will. Yeah, I'm Will. We'll lead a Will here. Watermelon Will. William is the legit name in all arms. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Zach, is that a Catwoman in addition? Will you think you want to hop on this one or are you uh you too good um You up bro Bill Bill Fuck, it's a rerun, Mike. I just came back and, like, we just... We had the stream already. Bill's still here. There you go. Three to three! Oh! Creating his own Olympic moment! Last one. Here we go. All right, Steve Beatty's in. But I am playing as Will. Wow, what'd you get, some bits or something? What motivated you? Uh, Tiny Clown Car followed just now. I appreciate that, Tiny Clown Car. join us here every Monday and the occasional Tuesday where we stream the newest games from Zach and Nicole Manny of Flippin' Up Pinball good times Ricky Drew's like Bill, Bill, Bill but you cannot chat that during his ball time that will absolutely upset you here's the problem, they're going to say that while I'm up, you're going to start reading it and I'm going to be like you I don't think you can go backwards on the map so I think you're choosing your own adventure going forward. Now that being said, I don't know that that's true. That's just with my experience. Dave Fogren says, Bill. Bill will always be with us. The Force, Bill. Use the Force. Yikes. New, uh, what was it? The new Skywalker trailer. Star Wars, I saw. I didn't see that. Like green to orange paddock, back to green. Yes, I don't know that you can do that. Jason, we'll let Bill read that. The drop on the map... Oh, I'm sorry. No, go for it. Is the drop on the map random? Can it be chosen at start? Or is it sequential like Roadshow? Good question. I think it's sequential. I believe it is too. I've never seen... It's just kind of moving around. So every time you hit that Jeep, it changes your course of action. And then, you know, when you complete your modes by hitting the white shots, it completes the map and then allows you to choose your direction again. You're choosing your own adventure going through the pit. Oh, back to me. In a reverse order right now. Little did I know. I'm all right. Bill's just here for the music, guys. I am, dude. In the ambience. Yes. Did you get a tri-ball, Bill? I got a multiball. Oh, you did. Okay, so you got rapid tri-ball. Oh, the tristeratops have it. Jason, you lion sucker. Dude, it wouldn't surprise me if it was. I was waiting for you to catch that one. It wouldn't surprise me if it was. That was a good catch, though, man. Don't worry. Over super case something fun on your stream. It's all good. It's always fun to come catch up and mess with your friend. See what's up. Yeah, I refrained, Jason. I had to. Bill's last game. You unfriended Jason? Is that what you said? I refrained. Oh, I thought you said unfriended. No, I refrained from blurting out what you said. I mean, dude, the zipper comment. I mean, that's good shit. That was good stuff. It wasn't good fun. It was. Hey, Kerry, brother. Dude, you have a good night, man, all right? I wouldn't read it. All right, Kerry, are you, like, really out this time, or is Bill reading this wrong? I'm not reading your whole thing right here. Dave, be safe driving, man. Sorry. Dude, Kerry stays as long as he wants. Oh, yeah, he's for sure out. All right, Kerry. Peace out, buddy. Jay Fogrens, country road, watch out for the deer, the elk. Dude, yeah. But you know what else, being out there, dude, that's a great thing. In a rental car. Dude, you want to pick up your own car. Yeah, man. Hey, skip it. Brother Scott's still in chat. Two, one. All right. A successful DNA combo. Mr. Steelman, yes, dude. I definitely want the Explorer, not the Jeep in mine. So I'm hoping someone prints that, 3D prints it. But, you know, I had a vote, dude. I'd like to see that crushed upside down with the fire. All right. So we just need to continually shoot the Raptor pen. Yeah. Is that how you get the Raptor dry ball? I'm just playing, dude. I'm not going to. Ken knows, like, the modes. Oh, yeah. Ken's all in this. Bill and I are just here, like, keep the ball alive. Yeah. Keep to the classic shit. I'm here, dude. Yeah. Hey, orange juice slam. All right. I like it. Speedy is a good dude. Yeah, buddy. All right, so Dave's not actually driving. Oh, he has a handler. Interesting. I've never heard of them called a handler. I have never heard that either. That's all right. All right, Dave, that's cool. Jeff, are you listening to this out loud? Hey, say hello to your handler. Jeff, you're trying to give us some... And Mr. Stalemare, try to give us some feedback here. All right, okay. Yeah, that tends to go hand in hand. Minnesota was liking fans. Yeah, buddy. See, for me, I'm lucky I don't watch football, so I don't really care. Oh, there it is. Yeah, Ken found a shot. Wow, did you see that? Somebody flipped that. That thing went off the right clipper and hit the wire for him. That was awesome. Yeah, buddy. That's the poor man's premium right there. The poor man's premium. I like that. If somebody can, that was cool. Skol. Is he talking about Skol Vodka? Is that like cleaning solution that they sell at the liquor store? That's a throwback liquor right there. Oh, you know what? I didn't acknowledge this. Tiny Clown Car, thank you for the follow. Appreciate it. All right on, buddy. Thank you. See, this was y'all's plan all along. Oh, you knew the timeline was getting jacked up, so you just stuck me in for one more. Ken on his best ball ever. 30-minute game. And Tito's is gluten-free as well. Tito's is gluten free You know How is vodka not gluten free What's the difference between Tito's and Vodka's I just know what the label is Yeah No honestly that's another reason why I'm looking forward to after The Spartan TV Oh yeah We gave that up Last time I drank dude Was with you guys in the TV Like really drank Really drank Yeah. Sleeping until 2 in the afternoon. Oh, what? What? That never happens. Dave, thank you for the bid, brother. Dave! With the biddy. Jerking in the recliner. Very inappropriate. But that's okay. Did you make sure to tell the wife we said hello? That's the most important thing. So, Jason's jerking in the recliner. Yes. But in a good way. Which is how we do it. I'm open. Yeah. Yeah, Jason. Keep it up, buddy. We love you, man. Dude, I'll double down and say he's probably got a diet Dr. Pepper in his hand right now, too. You can't say the word. What? He's got a brown drink. Dr. Pepper's not affiliated with Coke or Fanta. Oh, okay. I don't think they are. I could be wrong. Diet Dr. Pepper. Steve. I know my buddies. Spot on, he said. Yeah, you do. Oh, that's great. You know why, though, Jason? Because she didn't have to ask us to take the trash out. But believe me, my wife hates me right now, too, so it works out great for everybody. Oh, yeah. Oh, Ricky Ruru's clipping that shit. Well, dude, she was yelling yesterday. She's like, you know, you really couldn't help around the house at all the last couple of days? And I'm like, yeah. And you're going to go play pinball tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's my cross to bear. You're sitting down, though, man. You're not doing. Well, she knows that. She knows that. Yeah. Diet Dr. Tussler. Ah, ah, ah. Ken Stillin. Ah. All right. Sorry, guys. I got to try and catch up on this game here. that he's playing. The spitter mode yet. All right, so... Mid-coast surf. You have a good idea, man. I'm jealous, man, if he actually surfs. I've never been surfing. Neither have I. Been to a lot of oceans, been to Hawaii, never surfed. That is such a bucket list thing for me that I want to surf. I do a lot of... Dude, what we should do is go down to PPF one year, like two or three days early and hit the coast. I don't know if there's any good surfing off of Texas. I don't think the house is close to the coast. It's not close, but I mean, it can't be more than eight hours. It can't be more than eight hours. I don't know, Texas. I mean, Texas is a big old state. It is. Dave, everything has definitely sucked. When you go back, is that everything sucks? I don't know. Good luck, buddy. What? I said good luck. Oh, dang. That's not a fan score though I mean, when you're up there for like 10 minutes Oh, I had an extra ball Oh, Bill, good call Good call, man Oh I should I should lose my turn for that No That could be a high score Yeah, right, Dave. Surf Texas? I don't... What? You're going to surf Texas? Dude, I wouldn't mind surfing in general. I don't know. I'd like to try it. How is the Texas surfing? I don't think the waves are surfable. I don't know, though. I'm not a... I'm not a coastie. I don't know. Here's the part that sucks. If Kerry Hardy lives in Texas, he could tell us if he wasn't taking care of his kids right now. God damn, Kerry. Kerry, man. Pain in the ass. Dallas to Houston in three and a half hours. Bill wants to go surfing in Texas. Next time we go to Texas, pinball festival. Is there surfing in Texas? I was asking. Chat, dude. Texas is on. You know when there's surfing in Texas when a hurricane is coming in the Gulf? I was doing. That's when there's surfing in Texas. That's awesome. If anyone's going to surf in Texas, it's Burrito Bill. Like doing a wind sail surf with like a burrito. Authentically. To the next taco shop. That's awesome. Oh, Bill, I love you, brother. I love you. Hey, don't say the magic word. I love you, person playing Jurassic Park. Oh, my gosh. Mr. Snailman says, not anywhere near Dallas. And even the Gulf, there's no good surfing. Unless there's a hurricane. Well, I mean, so I live in Clearwater, and that was in the Gulf. There's no surfing coming out of Clearwater either. You need the big winds. Something with the moon and the wind and all that good stuff. Yeah, the moon or the wind. I do enjoy the fact that there was some surfing conversation going on in here, though. Yeah? Have you ever surfed? I've used surf like in my laundry detergent oh shit I've had surf and surf or whatever that I used I've never no ridden the water I don't know true story when I out of a couple years of college I moved to Florida to play baseball and it was the first time I really had to wash my clothes ever oh yeah I washed my clothes for 18 months in Downey Fabric Soffiter and I thought that was so you must have My clothes were soft as shit. They weren't as clean as they could have been. But not clean. No. But soft, and I smelled great. I smelled like a downy sheep. You can serve for Shiner Bock, maybe. That would be good times. Hey, I'd serve for Shiner Bock. You can serve tables, stuffing your face with delicious barbecue, absolutely. Laughing out loud, soft and nasty. That was me, man. That was my nickname in Florida. Soft and nasty. Who did you play baseball for, Ken? I played a little independent league baseball out when I was in Florida. IDP? What's that? It's a team called the Red Tide. Florida State League. The Red Tide. Oh, you know what? What's that? The last two times I've been to Florida. Red Tide? Red Tide. That sucks. You know what sucks is the team name because it's a shitty situation to be in. So Red Tide, for those of you Floridians, it's like when a bacteria or something hits the ocean and all these dead animals wash off the shore. And like all dead fish. and it smells like, I don't even know. It looks like the apocalypse of aquatic life. Up and down the beach, and then after a couple weeks when the birds come and they get it all the way, it's cleaned out. But it makes your eyes water and you can't breathe. I have not been that close to the red tide. Oh, dude. It's as if the ocean is menstruating almost. Legitimately, it's crazy. Anyhow. I'm not sure that was the best analogy. Table surfing. Table surfing with the food. Sounds good. Now, that said, dude, there are people in Illinois. That's it? Yeah, go ahead. There are people in Illinois that wait until, like, November, December. They wear their cold suits, and they go surfing on Lake Michigan because the waves and everything are high. How high are the waves in Lake Michigan? Like 5, 6 feet at that point. Okay. They're not crazy, but, dude, it's decent surfing. So you have some diehard people. You know what it sounds like? It sounds like at that point you need to grab your bookie board and grab a stick of juicy fruit. The taste is going to move you. Yeah, right? Bookie board. That is a throwback. Hey, dude, go hood style, man. You'll be like Teen Wolf just on top of a car. Ah, good times. Guys, I'm having fun tonight in chat. And I'm having fun tonight on the stream. Not playing very good pinball, but it's fun. What's your favorite 80s commercial? We can ask that in chat tonight. Is that left feet supposed to be so dangerous? Everything is dangerous in pinball. That was the left feet, damn it. Yeah, favorite game is commercial, man. You got me hung up on that. I'm going to say mine. Mine is that damn Teddy Ruxpin commercial. Because I never got that damn beer when I was a kid. What the hell? Mother. Coffee Jell-O is another good one. Taco Pizza, thank you very much for the 100 bits, brother. Yeah, taco pizza! Or as somebody said earlier, a pizza taco. Which was incorrect. Jason Alexander, McDonald's DLT. Tryballs Tom Fo...Fo...Pain! Uh uh uh! Uh uh uh! It didn't say the magic. Grim tape, looking forward to meeting you guys when you guys come back out here for Expo, man. God damn. Okay, so I was born in 84. Oh, we... I don't fucking... I don't remember. 80s. Where are the B-1s? All right, dude, let's go 90s for you. All right, 90s. I don't know, like Budweiser, you know. So you were all out on, like, this Bud McKenzie and everything. The what? Hang on. Explain the commercial on mic. No, it's... Dude, I think it was Budweiser. Bud was six. What? I was six at 1990. Unless they re-ranked commercials for it. No, no, no. It might have been... Dude, Spud McKenzie was the dog for, like, Budweiser. Like the bulldog-looking dog? Yeah, dude. He always had, like, wire church and glasses on. All right. Okay. Yeah. So he was around for a while. What's that? Bud Frogs. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Ryan. Ryan in the house. What up? Budfrogs were awesome, too. Bud. Weiser. Yeah, like that kind of shit. Yeah. You know? I don't know. What about... So, getting back in the 90s. Taco Bell the Chihuahua. Yeah, that was popular. Equivalent subs! That might have been 2000-ish. Late 90s. I have a ball somewhere. I'll tell you what. It's going to be in the Raptors. Oh! PD's Zombie Dog asked, how's the play field on this one? I haven't personally examined it. Bill. Have you personally examined the playthrough? Yeah, it still looks good. Looks good, buddy. Yeah, nothing going on yet, so. It's about chaos. And it was the first one off the line, or one of the first off the line. Oh, my God, yeah. Zach and Nicole Manny from Flippin' on Pinball got this. Like, day one, day two. Like, literally day one, day two. And there you go. Micro Machines. Birdo Drink. Yes, dude. That was another great one. Oh, the what's up? What's up? What's up? Oh, man. You know what? I couldn't tell you if it's soft or hard. Sorry for that. Do we have commercials like that these days, or do people skip through the commercials? No, we don't even really watch commercials anymore. Dude, how about when the Internet took over? Dude, everything down at the bottom of the screen said www.pepsi. Oh, yeah. Good times. www.that. 90s. 90s internet. Nice ball, Kevin. Oh, thanks. You know what I missed? For those of you that watched MTV back in the day, MTV Alternative Nation was badass. Because that was the mid, like the 90s, like the low to mid 90s. You had, you were going into like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, like that whole 90s grunge scene was unbelievable. What a great time to go around. Get started. Go taco. Yeah, it's reverse order. Hey, thanks, Ricky Drew. Hey, so this game is fun. Like you get into a rhythm a little bit, and it carries you along the way. Yeah. Getting used to some of the changes here on the code. I don't know. Very, very fun. There it is. Hey, man, what about some John Ciccata for Ken's multiball? No. MTV's not a bug. Oh, yeah. MTV bug kills. Yep. And then, actually, MTV Real World. The first couple Real Worlds were pretty awesome. Yes. Yes. Yes. I do miss, like, actual music videos. Oh, shit. Slapstick Pinball Podcast is back. What's up, Jason? We were talking about that, yeah. Yo, Caro Taco Bell. Cindy's like, go for it, guys. Nice. Remember Big Wreck? No, I don't remember that. Do you guys remember Singled Out, hosted by Jenny McCarthy? She lives like 10 minutes from here. Yeah. And we've been trying to get Jenny McCarthy on stream with her husband, Mr. Wahlberg, because they're opening up a burger restaurant here in St. Cross. Dude, you know what would be awesome? Yeah. We stream this from that store. I will not move the ring. So you're telling me for Jenny McCarthy to play this at a Wahlburgers, you would move the rig? I'm saying we'd have to buy a new rig and bring it there because this one's not going to move on the base. Not moving the rig. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, that's okay. No, no, no. See, the move band here. The rig doesn't move anymore, guys. This is it. And I thought I had a solution with the portable rig, and Jason's telling me that that sucks. So, Jason, this might be our last dream, guys. No, you better change that. Jason, right? It's great. It's easy. Who cares about that scene? It's easy, buddy. We're talking about Twitch views, Jobber. I couldn't care less about the next scene. Yeah, it's a rigament. Nicely coined phrase, Zach, of flipping out. It's a rigament. Oh, it's a rigament. Ah. My bad. My bad. Jason's like, no, I didn't tell you that. Hey, that's a cannon. Oh, is that a rescue champion? All right. Who's our last donut? It's taco pizza again? Taco Pooch. Dude, thank you, brother. How about Tiny Clown Car Followed Last? How about Fogret? Well, he used a bit. He's our man. Tell me how to spell it. What? I'll put Fogret. D. Yeah. A. H. I can't see it from here. Really? Yeah, there is an H. There's either two H's or an L-T. F-A-H. F-A-H-L-T-520. We all need to get our eyes checked. What is it? 520. 520. 100 better than 420. Or 100 worse. Or 100 worse. No numbers. No numbers. No numbs. Jason, thank you much for the 100 bits, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, Jason. Come on, man. Fiver, Niner. Jason's there. Say hi guys. 100 bits. Thank you. Cheer 100. Thank you, buddy. Good times. So now it seems like a rerun, but are you leaving or are you sticking around? I'm leaving. I was just catching up. Hypercoaster posted something that's... Hypercoaster said, you stream with Jenny, and I'm going to troll her for anti-vax police. Oh. Hey, whatever it takes, guys. Whatever. And this is exactly why we won't stream with her. I don't think people are going to like to have her harassed that way. I will not allow you to harass a guest of ours. No, I mean, she is very outspoken on that stuff. I don't care about that. Well, we're not doing that on Pinball Night. No. Listen, this is the thing. When you're hosting a show, whether it be a podcast or a stream or a television show or anything, and you have a guest in the studio, you give the guest the respect, right, because they made the time to come in. Now, you might not agree with what they're saying or what they're doing, but you always have respect for the guest. Yeah, you hate what I say all the time. Well, but you're a co-host. It's even more respect for you. Yeah, I know. More tolerance. However you want to look at it. I think it's more tolerance than anything else. Right, right, right, right. So, I don't know. Good times, good times. But I think that's going to be our last game on Jurassic Park. We're going to switch in the transition into after hours. All right, this is the real good night. Everybody have a good one. This is the real good morning, good afternoon, good evening. And don't forget to take some time out of your day to play some pinball, even though we just did that backwards. It's the opposite day. Meet some burritos. All right, dude, that was so like. Yeah, buddy. All right, good times. All right, we're going to pause for station identification on the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. After Hours Incoming phone calls for the After Hours segment. After Hours is brought to you by nobody because it's our idea that we brought to ourselves by ourselves. Brought to you for us by us. Right. So give us a second to fire up. Oh, wait. That's FUBU. What's FUBU? For us by us. Ah, gotcha. I like that, actually. Ken has 27 missed calls, you guys. Well, you know, the lines are busy normally on these nights. So it's like you got to do what you got to do. in any event. 27 missed calls. Hey, Grimton1980, another 100 bits. Tim, thank you, buddy. Again, we need to be sending TNT some bits for all the hard work that they've been doing. It's good to have you and your brother aboard. It was a pleasure talking to you guys on the phone the other night. The number's there on the screen. It's 630-283-2888. Now, this is what we're going to do, guys. In order to make certain that we can get some additional calls tonight, we're going to make the calls quick. If you're going to call in, give us a call But let's get the point out there, and we can have a little discussion, but we can't stay too long. And I have a feeling that I know the first person that's going to be calling in tonight is one of my favorite people in the world. What's up, buddy? How are you? Welcome to the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. Hey, what's going on, you guys? Oh, bye. What's up, Zach? Zach! What's up, buddy? Zach, many. What's going on? What, did you think I was a fulgur in there? No, no, no. It's always you. Eventually we'll get Dave in the Northwoods. So we've got Dave and we've got Dr. John. I mean, those are our go-to guys. We've got the jobber that comes in there every couple weeks. But it's okay with you, Zach. I'm going to try to speed the calls along a little bit this week. Maybe that works for me because you guys know. Where's Bill? Have you seen Bill? I don't know, man. I didn't see him a minute ago. I think he's passed out on the stairs. He left twice. He left twice. I anticipate him being back here any minute. Oh. hang on get on five there he is I feel like Bill accidentally thought he was taking a painkiller but took Molly instead and he's outside with rave sticks in his front yard or something I can see Bill with rave sticks only because he would have some audio speakers back in the dark his glow sticks would be blowing up with just bass what's going on with you my brother what's happening oh nothing I'm glad it's a I have a shitty day fella oh sorry buddy Day, day, crap day. Nothing in particular. So what can we do to cheer you up, Zach? And for those of you that are here, this is Zach Menne, the popular host of Straight Down the Middle, a pinball show, the popular host of This Week in Pinball podcast, and the very popular owner of the distribution, pinball distribution company of Flippin' on Pinball. Best of the best. Well, thank you. Why did you have a sad day, and what can we do to cheer you up? Let me ask you this. What can people in chat do to cheer you up? And we're not asking for bits here, but we're looking for words of encouragement. So what can the listeners or what can the viewers do to offer you some encouragement after your bad day, Zach? I don't like hearing you have a bad day. Yeah, me neither. You know, Karami, I think that is very sweet of you. I think that a lot of people in chat actually have already brightened up my week by sending in some straight down the middle 100 episode videos. Oh, there you go. There you go. Zapp's having a crap day, Robert says. No joke. I came home. I was in just a shit mood. Came home, and I received a video message from one of our fans. And they did this rendition of Macho Man Randy Savage. And I've watched it at least 14 times. And it makes me chuckle every single time. And I can't wait until people get to check it out because it's the greatest. See, now that's huge. I want to take a minute because now we've got people reaching out to you because they care about your well-being. They care about you because you care about them. We've got Chalmers suggesting, saying that Zach's having a crap day because he spoke with him. We've got HyperCoaster200 is chairing a little Team Zach, Team Zach. Now, Slap State Pinball Podcast, our buddy Jason is letting you know that Market Trends is trending up. Now, that makes you feel pretty good. Tiny Black Dog says people canceling JP to orders due to clear coat concerns, question mark. Probably they don't need to read that shit on the line. But I'm doing this in real time. Sorry to make you feel even worse there, Zach. Oh, my gosh. Sorry about that. Don't panic flip, said LOL. We're just going to stop reading all the messages in real time, Zach. That's right. No wonder you're having a shitty day. It's all making sense to me right now. All right. Penn Stadium says it was a good episode, and he said very well done and great coverage on TWIP. So nice to know. No, everything is fine. You guys know how hyped up and energetic and excited I am. about pinball, about people and everything. You know, usually about three or four days a year. Just have a shitty day. Yeah, no doubt. That's about it. Yeah. Yeah, you know, my shitty day is still probably a bright mood for a lot of people in the country. Yeah, right. That's true, right? One man's, what is that, one man's junk is another man's treasure. Oh, no. Or one man's trash. Definitely not that one. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Yeah, that sounds about right. One man's trunk is. No, it's, everything's been going good. We've been continuing to sell JP. A lot of our customers are concerned about rippling in the clear coat and stuff like that. I'm happy to discuss that with potential customers. Wonka, we're still selling Wonka. We're still selling DME or everything. They're still going out the door as quick as they come in, so no worries there. You guys, I couldn't ask for a better stream team than you guys. Oh, hey. I'm not having a bad day. You don't need to cheer me up, but thank you, buddy. I appreciate that. Love you, man. So that's exciting. We got the old Zach stream rig. You guys are working on that. Working on that. Yeah. Jason Fowler, how awesome that thing is going to be. That's going to be great for you, Zach. Let's get ready to list that thing on eBay. Yeah, absolutely. And tell your bad day, that streaming rig we're making for you might be kind of shitty. I'm just saying. I'll get a shot. I don't care. look if all else fails I swear to you I'll hook one stupid ass webcam to the computer and if anybody just do that with the chat I'll give them virtual hugs and we'll give away trans, we'll be good you know everybody will be there if that rig does not hold up the standard I will find other uses for that portable rig with one camera on there and I don't want to disclose what those are but a tag for Mark use 100 bits to say thanks and cheer him on. It's a guarantee that every time you tune into a stream, you're going to see beautiful Dennis Creasel and his picture. You know how people do the President of the United States? They put it up or they put Jesus. Dennis Creasel is going to be right behind me in a picture frame. We've got President, and we have Jesus, and then we have Dennis Creasel. In that order. It's a tough this or that. I can tell you that much right now. Oh, yeah. Well, listen, so when can people count on seeing Episode 100 is straight down the middle, though? When is that? I'll give the chat here a little sneak peek. Episode 100 is going to be a little bit different because we're going to take all of those videos that you guys are nice enough to compile as well as the outtake, and we are going to air them live on Twitch. Yeah, big thing for us. Live on Twitch. We'll be taking questions. We'll be interacting with chat live, and it's just going to be a lot of fun. So straight down the middle, you're going to do that straight down the middle, or are you going to do that on flipping out? We have no clue how we're doing it, as long as we're live. That's awesome. And you guys handle everything live very well. And somebody else that handles things in situations well is Taco Pizza, because he just donated 150 bits. So thank you, Taco. You guys just follow straight down the middle. That way you get the announcement when we're doing this. It will be within the next week or two. We're going to compile all that, and you guys are going to watch the videos as we're going to watch them. If you have questions for us, help us do live this or that from the chat, anything you guys want will be in the chat to respond to them. Will you be taking calls, Jabra wants to know? Ooh, I'm not as fancy as Ken, but maybe if my boy Cromwell can help me out with that, possibly, yes. I'm always here to help. That's very much a flipping out thing, though. I mean, let's designate that right. That's a flipping out thing. Dennis Creasel is motivating me to hang up on you. He's dangling bits in my direction. It's nicer. It's nicer. My little cowboy Creasel finally shows up. He's been here all night, I think. He's kind of lurking in the background. Laying low doing some Gottlieb refill flippers or something. Guys, I can't hang up on the boss. He's paying my bitty salary. You know what we should do? Whenever I stream, is there like a mobile rig that's like Wi-Fi enabled? How about we do this? I swear to you guys, I will do a live stream Wi-Fi as we drive to Dennis Creasle's house. How about that? I think that's just called Facebook Live. This is like a 10-hour drive, but I'll do it, damn it. You're going to run out of battery unless you've got one hell of a data package on your phone. Nicole's going to absolutely hate that. Yeah, I'll put a satellite dish on the top of the damn car. Oh, now we talk. I don't care. Well, let me ask you this. If you're going to do that, do you mind picking me up in St. Charles? I'll co-pilot the road trip. That would be pretty fun. I would do that. Little Home Crash to Creasletown. Right. How about that? We'll show up in the flipping out van. We'll show up and nine pinball people will just pounce out of there. Oh, yeah. That would be awesome. A donerous live stream. Right, right. Impromptu party. You know what? We'll even have Franchi and Barlow in there just for keepsakes. Oh, yeah, of course. we may actually get the first documented Dennis Creasel smirk. Never a full smile, but we might get a smirk. Yeah, no, Dennis is a good guy. I like Dennis a lot. I got a lot of respect for Dennis. So the way that you guys interact on the podcast is always refreshing, and I know you guys have a lot of respect for one another. So it's a good team of both of you guys. I know you guys love each other. Yeah, I would not have the motivation I do in pinball to do what I do, even if it's business, even if it's on a podcast. I wouldn't have that motivation without friends like that. That's true. I get it. I get it. Frowny face. I'm tired of hearing myself. All right, man. So if you guys have your bingo cards, get them ready, and we'll see who calls in next. Get them ready. Have a good one, fellas. All right, brother. Hey, be good, Zach. Thanks again, man. See you, bud. Yep. Love you. Always good hearing from Zach. Many from Flip N Out Pinball. No doubt. Yeah, it's fun times. It's fun times. Always good times. Streams fun times. Now, listen. Now, I'm looking at chat right now, and we have Dirty Toes B, who's been a little mini celebrity in chat tonight with some of the interaction. He says he's been trying to call, but somebody's hogging the line. So guess what? Guess what, Dirty Toes B? The line is open. The line is open now for the next call to call in on the Flip N Out Pinball streaming network. But more importantly, if you're looking to get a Jurassic Park, you need to give Zach and Nicole Mini a call. Flip N Out Pinball. We're going to take this call real quick. Thanks for calling the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. My name is Ken, and with me is Steve. How can we help you tonight? Hey, this is Dirty Toast. Dirty Toast! What's up, buddy? You sound exactly how I thought you would. I'm trying to let you know I found Bill face-first in a pile of deep-dish pizza, and we've taken him home. He will be okay. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. But that's about that. I mean, he kept talking about Chicago dogs and the bean. He wanted us to take him to the bean. Who was this? Who was talking about this? Huh? Who was talking about this? Oh, this was Bill. Oh, I must have been playing. Me too. All right, my bad. Or I might have been doing something else. No, I'm just, I want you to know Bill is okay. We got Bill home. Oh, good. Oh, so you took care of Bill. Thank you so much. Did not know you were local. Dirty toes. Dirty toes. but it's nice refreshing it out. Not really, but pretend Bill got home. I'm going to go and drink some more wine now. Oh, you know what, buddy? What are you drinking wine-wise? You got a little Merlot, a little Cabernet. What do you got going on tonight? A little 7-Eleven special. Oh, a little Mad Dog 2020 or some Boone's Farm, it sounds like. Nicely done there. Nothing but the best. little two cans for $6 special. That's about where I'm at tonight. I've got to work tomorrow because it's my little effing birthday. I hope you enjoyed our sincerest happy birthdays. Bill Webb, you do one. Bill Webb is actually in Chicago. We might have a real Bill Webb. Bill Webb will be here. Real Bill Webb's a mile away. He's actually driving home, and he's, like, in chat. But, brother, thank you so much for getting in on the stream, and thanks for supporting the channel. Yeah, man. Don't be a stranger, man. Be in here every single week because we love having you in here, man. It's awesome. Yeah, no worries. Appreciate you guys. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Hey, and thank your wife for allowing you to come on here on your birthday. Please. Wow, well, that was an abrupt goodbye by a dirty. That was an abrupt goodbye. No, it was good. So, Bill Webb is in chat now. So, Bill Webb, 821. Real Bill's a mile away. Everybody has like a... Bill Webb is a mile away, upside down in a Jeep. Jeep once on his freaking traveling park. There are 820 other Bill Webbs, says Zach Flip N Out Pinball. Thanks for joining the Flip N Out Pinball Network. Hello, caller. What's up? What's up? Who am I speaking with? It's Jason. Hey! Jason Fowler! What's up, buddy? Hold on. Let me give you the introduction. Hold on a second. All right. Joining us live from the Slap State Pinball Podcast, Jason Fowler. What's up, Jason? I got to give you an intro. You're the podcast taking the podcast community by storm, man. And then you go all in with, like, the huge charitable effort with the sale of the Gorgar. And you guys are putting yourself and Matt Kanin, putting a pinball machine in a children's hospital in St. Louis. Very commendable, man. Very cool, man. Very commendable. Thanks. Appreciate that. We're probably tackling too much, to be honest with you. I would agree with you. You need to calm down and stop infringing on our stuff here, man. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You guys are setting the bar high as normal. So I wanted to call in and say hello. I hate that I missed Bill in person, but love what you guys are doing as usual. We have TMT Amusements in chat. They're representing tonight, too. Jason, let me ask you this. I saw that. Todd is a, yeah, he's a. An icon. He's an old school. Yeah, he's an icon of the industry and somebody that I still watch his videos on a regular basis. So thank you, Todd. And Tim, joining that team recently has been in chat tonight. So it's good seeing TNT representing. And it's good having you here, Jason. So, I mean, what's new and improved? I would like to say this. Your segment that you introduced recently, and I don't believe it was on your last show, but it's and the intro is awesome it's like you have one second one oh yeah and name that pen name that pin and it's one second of audio yeah that's great and it's so great because for a lot of people you play pinball machines you might not remember the shots you might not remember all the layouts necessarily but like the the music can be iconic and the sounds and the but to get one second audio and and you can kind of decipher is that a system 11 is that wpc yeah It's a really great segment. Is that your favorite musical? Yes, yes. But it's like a second of it, right? It's like hypnotically. It's really tough because you hear those sounds and you know them. You've heard them and you can place them, but it's like putting it together to actually name the thing that it's associated with is tough. So, yeah, thank you. It's hard putting it together. It's really tough to edit, but it's a lot of fun, and we've gotten some great feedback from it. Well, I'm glad. What can we expect from Slash Day Pinball Podcast moving forward, Jason? Well, we're going to continue to work on Gorgar. That's our number one priority right now because of the machine and making sure that that gets into Cardinal Glennon because that's something that Matt and I really feel strongly about. Right. And then we're going to continue to do the stream. We're working really hard on that. It's tough to get off the ground, as you know. but I just want to add that it is worthwhile and the rig that you've got coming, the rig itself is awesome. The only thing I'm saying is I'm downplaying the wireless aspect because wireless will never happen. The whole reason I got the rig is because I wanted to go wireless because I've got like 19 miles of wire. It makes it easier to move around. No, I know. It makes it easier to move around, but it's not truly wireless. I'm just warning you. You may find a different, different experience than I did, But I don't want to hog the line. No, you're not. Hey, are you coming up for Expo? Yes, absolutely. All right, so listen, we talked about this. We've got something really special planned for those that are going to Expo, whether you're pinball media or whether you're just a pinball fan. It's going to be fun. It's going to be interactive. Jason will be taking a part with that. Is Matt coming up too? Absolutely. All right, sweet. Sweet. So I'm looking forward to seeing you guys there. And then we've got a little, I think a little Expo tailgate party that we're going to be doing on Wednesday. if you can get up a night early, and we're going to stream that. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah let me know and I cop out and bring some potato salad or baked beans Atta boy Some radish chips whatever it takes We get it figured out But hey brother we big fans of the show A lot of respect for you personally and thanks for taking time to call in man I appreciate it Thanks so much guys Keep up the great work, and I will be there every chance I get. Thank you, Jason. If you need anything, let us know, buddy. Cheers, buddy. Alright, see ya, bud. See ya, man. Good times. Always good to hear from Jason. He's one of those guys that is very, very put together. He's just a good guy in general. No doubt. Thanks for calling in on the Flippin' Off Streaming Network. This is Ken and Steve. Hey. Hello, gentlemen. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm good. So I'm not like an awesome podcaster or super high profile pinball. Neither are we. You're called the right place. This is our love company, brother. That's how we go. well this is this is mpt3k and i'm hanging out in the chat yeah absolutely right on thanks for coming in but but what i am is i am a close personal friend of dirty toes oh there you go oh got an entourage now dirty toes so tells me so what kind of secrets did you want to share before we transition with her dirty toes oh i'm sure his wife will love hearing this and last stream. MFF Dubes has followed. We appreciate that. And Zahnriff, thanks for contributing with the bit. But, yeah, please, please go on. Well, we go way back, way, way back. I think we go so far back as I met him once and I streamed from his house. Okay, so he knows who you are. so we go way way back and and uh i want to i want to just tell him happy birthday dirty toes and uh his lovely wife saribi she's awesome oh nicely done i i i one more thing because full disclosure i was waiting for some really raunchy revealing story where i had to like Hang up on this? I wasn't sure where it was going to go. But no, that's good. We need to read the G's. We don't need to ruin anybody's, you know, bring out any skeletons. So far, nice call. So keep it up. But you might want to hang up because I don't want to give you guys a copyright strike. But I do want to play something because I mentioned, where's all the yacht rock? And you guys are like, no, we don't do yacht rock. You've got to go to Jet Clip. But this is dedicated to Dirty Throat. Oh, hold on a second. Me and a friend Travel down the road and back again Ladies and gentlemen, thank you, PinQuest Pinball, for joining the Yacht Club tonight with 500 Bits. And I'd also like to thank the NMF duo who has used 100 Bits tonight on the Yacht Club. Thank you for joining the lot on the love boat. Welcome. Welcome to Yacht Club. I think that's all we can get away with without a copyright strike. Thanks a lot, guys. All right, man. Be good. Appreciate it. I love when we cross the streams. Like, Yacht Club is not anything that ever made its presence here. It's never. But I know that it's been on Deadflip. So it's nice to know that some of the Deadflip viewers peruse themselves and come into our place, our humble little home that we call Flippin' Up Pinball Network. And they cross-reference. They don't remember where they saw or heard things. But I appreciate the birthday wishes, and I appreciate the, what is it, like hazing almost going on. Yeah, there's a little hazing going on. Now, if you want to haze somebody else on the line, 630-283-2888. Now, I think Todd from TNT is here. Todd, if you want to call in, it would be great to hear from you, buddy. I haven't spoken to you since before you went back into the hospital for a little clean the pipes, a little clean up. But Todd Tuckey was on our podcast, Special Inlet Pinball Podcast, which was really fun. And I think I know who this guy is. What's going on, buddy? How are you? Thanks for joining the Flippin' Up Pinball. What's up, Dave? Greetings from the great white north, gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, Dave Fulgren joining the Flippin' Up Pinball. Dude, I spent more time on a runway today than I did in the air. Oh, I love those days. Oh, I fell asleep and I woke up and I thought we were there and we didn't even take off yet. Oh, man. I've had stories like that in some relationships. It's terrible. Heyo! It's usually her waking up and me not there yet, but anyhow. Hey. Or me already. Anyhoo. What's going on, buddy? Anyhoo. What's up, Dave? Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. No, it's just been crazy. I'm in the plane. We land. I'm like, hey, the show, because it was behind, so I'm like, I turn the show on, on the plane, and the first thing that comes out, and my Bluetooth didn't sync up, is B.B. going, yeah, Hercules, that thing's fucking slow. I was drunk as hell. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And all these people are looking at me. I'm like, yeah, hey. How you doing, everybody? It's like the one time the PG-13 screen goes down. It was the first time I heard an F. I'm like, whoa, there's an F-bomb. But, yeah, how. So, Chad's rocking right now in this car. You get back. And then, yeah, what I need to do now is get on a plane and go do some surfing in Texas, for Christ's sake. Yeah. Surfing in Texas. Yeah. I'm thinking of, like, for some reason, like, the Fonz on the water skis jumping over the shark in Texas. Jumping the shark? Yeah, jumping the shark in Texas. Because you're not getting surfed. That was not in Texas. I know, but I'm thinking that's where it should have been. I'm sure you get surfing as you're going to get in Texas. Wait a minute. Where was it, though? He was jumping a shark. Where was he? Was he in Florida or something? California, man. Come on. It might have been Brookfield, too. It had to be California. It had to be California. Anyways, so what's going on with you, man? Anything good? Just running around, moving machines. People are looking at the – I was listening to Zach's podcast today, and he was saying how things are slowing down. Things are speeding up over at Tomorrow Bar. Yeah. Got a couple out and got a couple in. For those who don't know, Tomorrow Bar is Dave Fahlgren's basement bar, and it's named Tomorrow Bar because he always says he's going to finish a project tomorrow. Right? You got it. There we go. There we go. See? Hey, that's a fine background. Absolutely. It's like you're like the pop-up at the bottom of the screen that kind of gives the little background story. That's right. I need to add pop-ups. Tomorrow Bar and Basement. Damn it, Dave. I need an overlay for you. That's when I'm going to be done with it. Right, right. Well, good times, man. You know, you got something to strive for now on the next one. That's why I had to call. I was like, I got to call because I was getting anxious. I'm like, I got to call in because it's been like three months of me calling in. I can't blow this. Now it's like you're on the street because of our hat. You're like the Ripken, the Cale Ripken of our pinball stream. So, Dave, are you driving right now? Are you being chauffeured? No, no, no. I'm at the hotel. I'm at the American Inn. It's actually called the American Inn. What did you call your driver? My handler. No. The handler. What the hell is a handler? I've never heard of a handler. It sounded like you were playing Slash of the Bane Team 12 in the background. Did you hear that? No, I did. No, I'm not a ball handler. When I go on trips to Korea, there's usually a Korean that comes with us, and that's our handler, and they basically make sure we don't get in any trouble. It's like your handler. So, no, I'm up in Minnesota with my business partner, so I refer to him as my handler. Oh, gotcha. All right. Right on. No, he was driving. No, we're at the hotel now in the middle of nowhere, and I'm going to be here for a few days. Well, be good. Don't get bit by any animals, and make sure that you're available to come in. Yeah, there's a lot of concrete around here, so I think I'll be all right. But, hey, man, again, keep up the great work, and good job, and all that other good stuff. And thanks, Zach, for making all this stuff happen. Yeah, thanks, Zach. You guys got some special stuff happening here, guys. That's good to know. Hey, because it's Monday Night Pinball. That's what it is. It was hilarious because I was jonesing. It was like 7.30 rolls, and then it was like 8 o'clock, I think, when I finally landed. And I'm like, I'm missing my show. Like, this is my show. It's great. It's your show, dude. I love it. Well, go do your thing, brother. Always good hearing from you in chat. And I've got a little something on the side I need to talk to you about next week, but we'll absolutely reconvene. Sounds good. Yeah, I've got, yeah, yep. So we'll talk to you later, guys. Keep it up. Good fishing. Be good, Dave. Peace. Later. See you. Good times. Always good to hear from Dave Fahlgren. We've got Schmitty in the house. Hey, what's up? Schmitty in the house. And Bill Webb is in the house. Now, it's funny because Bill couldn't be here because he's the only physical animal for those joining me. Bill hurt his back, but his thumbs are still working because he's able to get on his phone and get on his shit. That's a lot easier. It's weird seeing Bill not being here in general. Hey, what's going on? Thanks for calling into the Flip N Out Pinball Network. Hello there. Hi, Dr. Jones. How are you, buddy? What's going on? I'm good, mate. I'm good. We're still tidying up empty red wine bottles from Steve Ritchie's visit last week. Yeah, I saw the picture of Steve Ritchie being incarcerated on the glass of a getaway, too. That's half the story. I was driving him to a nature park to pat a kangaroo before he ate it. And I got a ticket for doing U-turn with him in the car giggling the whole time. He ate a kangaroo? Cosby. He ate kangaroo. I cooked him kangaroo on the barbie. Oh, my gosh. But he didn't pick it out. It's not like he went to the store, there were kangaroos in a tank, he picked it out, and you cooked kangaroos in a tank. Like the lobsters in the United States. It's like you go there, you feel bad for the lobster. You know there's no way getting out of there. You just hope that one guy has longevity where he knows how to die. He's like, I like that kangaroo. That was edible. No, that's horrible. Did he like it? They do swim, but they don't live in tanks. No, I understand that. I understand that. Did you have fun with Steve Ritchie, though? He's a crazy guy. He had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. We had him, we had Bowen, and the Wonder Kids. The Wonder Kids killed us in competition, of course, with Colin and Esha coming over. Wow. So let me ask you this. First, Gumby510's following. Gumby. So thank you, Gumby. Welcome to the channel. I hope we see you here every week. So Bowen Kerins is somebody that I don't know personally, but I've got a lot of respect for Bowen because he's done a lot for pinball. How is Bowen personality-wise? Is he somebody that you can walk up to, shake his hand, and grab a beer with, or is he a little bit more standoffish? What's your experience with Bowen Kerins on a personal level, Dr. John? You can walk up to Bowen and actually give him a hug. He's that sort of guy. He's very friendly, very welcoming, easily approachable, and a lot of fun. He'll have a drink with you on occasion. I don't think he drinks that much. I managed to get a few wines down him at dinner. I don't like him already if he's not drinking that much. A couple of years ago. He'll definitely have a drink with you, but he makes time for everybody. A lot of people going up to him in Brisbane just saying hi, getting photos taken. We'll stay and have a chat with you. He's that sort of guy. So go ahead and hit the station if you see him to go up, say hello from me, and give him a hug. That's awesome, man. Anything new and improved? I wanted to say congratulations to you, and I was going to email you today, but I thought I would talk to you tonight because your story last week on Special When Lit hit the top five news stories of this week in pinball this week, and that was your conversation with Bowen Kerins at the Brisbane Masters. So congratulations to you, Dr. John. Dr. John. And we appreciate the Special When Lit correspondence that you're offering us. Very, very good. I don't know whether you shared the story of my fan that I met at Pinberg. That was funny. Listen, but did you get a chance to listen to it today because of your top five stories? I did. No, I heard that. I was curious. Thank you, Zach. And he even mentioned me. My name is Ed Alon. Yes, I did. Sign an autograph. We only associate with the best over here, especially when we're... Did you say signing autographs and making babies? No, I didn't say signing autographs and making babies. Although that would probably go in that order. Oh, man. That's what Bones liked to chat to. But it was good. It was very good. Well, that's awesome, man. Well, Dr. John. Well done. And next week, the big new game reveal, is it? I don't know if it's going to be next week because next week's Labor Day weekend. It might be the following week. But in the next two weeks, we've got a game reveal, and we have a pretty incredible guest coming in to stream that game. So that's going to be fun. So please stay on the line. I'll talk to you off the air. You're part of the special window team. You're privy to the information. I'll let you know when I talk to you. At the after-after-hours party that we always do. We have our stream. Talk to you in 20 minutes. Hey, thanks for calling in, man. Yeah, bye. Good times. All right, so I'm going to make a quick call actually right now. So if anybody's going to be calling on the line, I'm going to ask you to hold because I've got a special guest that I want to bring on the line. And there it is. I'm going to have to – let's see this. Well, I guess I didn't even have to make the call because the call came in. What is going on? Hey, I got through. You got through. And Mr. Todd Tucky of TNT News. Mr. Todd Tucky. What's going on, my buddy? What's going on, my friend? Well, I just mentioned about five minutes ago I couldn't call. Somebody was giving me a credit card. They just ordered a Ms. Pac-Man. Oh. We're getting orders at 1045 at night. Oh. But it's a – Do you remember – We deal with people around the world now, so we get calls all the time. It's the price of fame and quality service. Do you remember the – you were on our podcast, Special One Lit, I want to say six or seven months ago. Mm-hmm. Yep. And we met at Expo originally, and we just – I mean, we were so fond of what you had done, and it was such a pleasure for us to meet you in person. And the one thing that we always wondered was when we met you, would it be a letdown? Because you learn, you kind of, Todd Tucky's your friend when you're watching the TNT amusement videos. You know Todd Tucky when you're watching the videos. But there's this saying that goes along that says you don't want to meet your heroes, right? Like you don't want to meet somebody that you look up to because there could be the ultimate letdown. And I can proudly say when we met Todd at Expo, it felt like that friendship was always there. and then he came on the podcast and it was there. So we've been buddies, man, and we've always appreciated it. We appreciate everything you've been doing for Pinball and Coin Op and Arcade. It's great to have you on the line. Thanks for calling the Flippin' Up Pinball Network, Todd. Well, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. We've been doing it so many years. I think in terms of home sales and stuff, I think I've been doing it longer than anybody else. Yeah. but you run across so many different people, and I find that collectors are growing again. There was a time when things were slow, and it was difficult to generate interest, but now you can see all this excitement and interest, especially with all the new stuff. The Jurassic Park that's coming out, where it came out. It's out. Although we haven't actually got a sale yet. We're still selling the old games. As a matter of fact, we just filmed two Munsters premiums, believe it or not, next to each other. Perhaps the only time we'll have two premiums. Were they the black and white or the color versions of the premiums? The color ones. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. So we didn't have to do any updated codes because they were already updated to the 1.0, which is kind of nice. The code updates are such a pain in the ass. You're solving back many of the same issues with the code updates, which is funny because I was able to update this Jurassic Park on the fly pretty quickly. So I'm going to send both of you a tutorial video. Why don't we have you on the – yeah, go ahead, Tom. Yeah, the older ones are easier to – or the newer ones are easier. The new spike system, the older one. Boy, that took forever. Yeah, yeah. And it's funny because each of the companies have their own different ways to kind of update a pin. So it's like unless you're, you know, all over the place. Do you have a couple minutes to answer a couple questions from ourselves and in chat? So let me ask you this. We have – we're in 2019. Now, you've seen the industry, pinball and arcade, probably fluctuate. Secondary market, primary market, up and down, up and down, up and down. Where do you see the market currently, and where do you see the market a year from now? Well, right now, the market prices are crazy, absolutely crazy. I've never seen anything like it. People think because they do some quick shopping. For instance, somebody offered me their fishtails and their Indiana Jones Williams, and he said he did his research and he's willing to sell them for 70% of the prices he found. He said the fishtails he knows is worth $6,500 and the Indiana Jones is worth $10,000. Oh, that's easily $70,000. And of course he has fate. Both his cabinets are fated. You know, he got them 15 years ago and they're dull and dingy and he just thinks that he's going to make a fortune on them. He says, just slap a couple bulbs in it, a couple rubbers, and you'll get big bucks. He's willing to make that big 30% markup. eBay's the Cali Blue Book. Put them on Craigslist. Yeah. Yeah. Out on Craigslist, you'll have people around the corner, lines of people with their money in their pockets ready to. Yeah. But I don't see the market stopping, I'll tell you. Yeah. I don't see the prices dropping ever again. I think that they have stopped. I think the prices are at their peak. I don't think you'll be able to sell a theater of magic for more than maybe $9,000. It's like that one I had that I bought brand new and I sold. I only had it in my house. I got $12,000 for that. I don't think that that will ever go up, especially if Chicago Gaming makes a new one. Yeah, right. But they seem to be doing well. We just sold another Monster Bash, the limited one with the topper, and I would rather have that than the old one because of all the color changers. The remakes, in my opinion, I mean, everybody has an original pin, and they try to restore it to like new condition. But now you've got an opportunity to get a pin that's already in like-new condition. It doesn't have 25, 30 years of play on it. You take advantage of upgraded technology. For me, personally, as a buyer, it's a no-brainer. I want the remakes, but I can understand the drive and affinity for the originals, too. That's exactly probably what I would want because of that giant color display, at the very least. Right. And, you know, I mean, this thing is just gorgeous. This Monster Bash is just amazing. I'm looking at one right now. We've got an Ellie in studio on loan from Chicago Gaming Company and Ryan White. And it's right. We talk about pinball experiences. The experience you get with a light show, that extra large extended DMD makes such a huge difference in the presentation of the game. It's just such a fun thing to look at. Absolutely. It's just a big difference. I suspect that eventually Sega will go to a larger screen. They certainly could. Yeah. Maybe not yet, but I think there's plenty of room on the board to, you know, have a bigger display with more detail. Sure. The picture now is beautiful. I like the Sega-sized screen and the spooky pinball-sized screen. Okay. They're a good size. And I think Houdini is the same size, isn't it? It is. Yeah, Houdini is like stern size, I believe. Yeah, stern size. Jersey Jack Pinball has like a really large. They have the big giant screen. Yeah, the big LCD. That's beautiful. As a matter of fact, we're doing a dialed in limited. Somebody just ordered that. We just got it out of the box, but we haven't set it up. And they're just gorgeous, that giant screen. I've got to go there and do a tour of that place. Let me ask you this, Todd, because I've been talking with Tim a little bit, and you guys have kind of put your foot in the water with pinball streaming or streaming from TNT. And I don't know if you're familiar with our channel. Like, we've been streaming some games, and we have kind of a talk show format that's going on. Now, you guys have a few streams under your belt. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts in general about pinball streaming, what you like, what you don't like about it, and where you see your personal pinball streaming going. and if you'd like to go ahead and tell the viewers here tonight where they can find your streaming channel, we'd love to be able to share that information too. Well, we experimented with Jillian with the pinball princess. She brought her equipment down and we tried it and it was like a whole day shot to hell basically. Sounds fun, Tom. And it was fun. but it's just so time consuming and our ending our views were not that high and i said i get more views with the youtube video you always will get more views with the youtube yeah absolutely the the problem really is there's nobody there reading the comments and typing sure and um And it was just difficult. And I'm not in any hurry to get in on this. I would just prefer to appear in everybody else's. Hey, if you have any guests, we'd appreciate it. Well, let me ask you, Timmy, I'm looking at the comments now. The comments are flowing, Todd. Now, let me ask you this, Todd, and I don't want to be the middleman or broker the deal here, but, I mean, one of the bigger pinball podcasts in the industry right now would be This Week in Pinball. Now, Jeff Patterson, he runs the This Week in Pinball website, but his host for his podcast is Zach Menning, who's also the owner of the distribution of Flip N Out Pinball. Would you ever have any interest in maybe jumping on This Week in Pinball and co-hosting the show with Zach? because the two of you are people that I have so much respect for. No doubt. And to have you guys do a podcast together would almost be like a Marvel what-if. That would be awesome. Well, believe it or not, yesterday, Frank, Tim, and I. Now, Zach's the straight-down-the-middle guy. You know Zach's straight-down-the-middle and Greg? Oh, yeah, Zach. Oh, yeah, we got to talk to him. Okay. I won't tell you what we did, but Zach had contacted. to us about his fact that they're doing their 100th episode. So we made a special TNT video. Oh, nice. Did you get the $20 gift card like we did or no? Well, I'll put congratulations in quotes. Right, right, right, right, right. That's awesome. So we had a lot of fun with it. He did say that we won't hurt his feelings or anything like that, but we had a lot of fun making it. So the three of us filmed a really fun one. And I sent it over to him last night, and he loved it. So it was Sunday, Sunday night. So you'll be seeing that four-minute video I made just for their 100th episode. So we've got Dennis Creasel from Eclectic Gamers Podcast is the Robin to Batman being Zach on that podcast every other week. But every other week there's an opening for a co-host. And I would like to personally request that you consider doing that. It's in the morning. You probably get up, eat some breakfast, knock that podcast out a couple hours. I'm up literally every day. I'm up at 730. So let's consider doing this, guys, if I can push it. I think everybody here would love to hear that podcast. It would be fun. I would be willing to do that. We didn't discuss that, but he's too busy with the 100th episode. He's very busy. I do his grunt work here. So, like, I've got to recruit the guests. You guys are both busy, though. Come on. No. You guys are both busy. Absolutely. Now, you're coming to Expo. You'll be in Chicago at Pinball Expo. I talked to Tim. Frank and I will be doing a seminar, and it's going to be a lot of fun. We've already started the research, but it's going to be about mods over the years, pinball mods. And Tim and Tom, the twins, will be assisting, or I should say ass assisting. Ask this guy. I was waiting for the iPo guy going on right there. So we're going to have some fun with that. And I think it's Friday, and we're before dinner, so it's kind of nice because we can run later if people have questions or just want to curse us out or something. Whatever it takes. We have our growing haters list. The growing haters list. Hey, the bigger the popularity, the bigger the growing hatred. Now, I would like to extend this also, and I did talk to Tim a little bit about it. So we have a situation where on Wednesday prior to Expo, our stream, we're going to do an Expo tailgate party, and we're going to have people coming in. I heard it earlier. I've been listening all this time. So, yes, I would love to be there because we are flying. Well, Rob's flying us in, I think, on Wednesday afternoon. I'm hoping it's Wednesday afternoon because I like to get situated in the room and stuff. And then we're flying out Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Okay. So we are planning on coming on Wednesday, so I definitely can do the tailgate party. Well, let's do the tailgate party, and I can arrange transportation to get you out where we're at because we're only about 45 minutes from Expo, and if your hotel's there, that's fine. And if it's not, I can find a place for you guys locally until you get to the hotel at Expo. But it'd be fun to have the team out. I mean, you guys have done so much for the industry, coin op, whether it be arcade, pinball, iconic mentors. We're all following the lead, and we appreciate everything you guys do for pinball, Todd. Well, thanks. Absolutely, man. You got any famous last thoughts before we let you go and enjoy the rest of your evening here? Well, I was pleased to see behind you is a total nuclear. Oh, yeah. So that is absolutely the best pinball machine of 2018. That's awesome. So a little story behind the machine behind me, that's Scott Danesi's Whitewood for Total Nuclear Annihilation. So that's the pin that made the rounds in the shows when it was still a homebrew, and then from there there was a prototype machine that was made, and then the production machine. So back here is the actual pin that started all the rage, Todd, and I'd love for you to come over here and flip it when you get out here at some point. It was a wonderful game. It was such a shocking surprise to see something so innovative. Agreed. But that was really good to see. And I could see it in the back, and I said, I don't recognize the back glass. I thought maybe the glass was out of it. There was no back glass. It's a great catch-tale. It's C&C'd, and it says Total Nuclear Annihilation because at the time, Scott was calling the PID Total Nuclear Annihilation, But there was a licensing right to the name, so it got switched to Total Nuclear Annihilation, and it had a nice little TNA acronym. That's a better name. Yeah, I agree. I agree. T's for Todd. So Grim Tim Potsitter is now following you. 1980 says Todd's favorite game. Yeah. Class of 1812. 2018. Oh, that's my, yeah, that was a great game, Class of 1812. Class of 1812. So Steve, to my left here, he's a class of 1812 owner, and he's missing some chattering teeth, Todd. So if you go into the TNT booth there. Oh, it was you. It was me asking for that for him. I was hoping that would be easy. Yeah, it was. You can make anything. You should be able to rig up a set of chattering teeth from the one at the store. But have you ever come across any? Never. Never sold parts for one. And never, never sold anything. There was like no parts, and Steve Young at Pinball Resource got wiped out of all of his parts. As a matter of fact, he told me that whenever I do a video on some obscure game, he starts selling parts for it. There you go. Maybe that's what happened with that, but I don't think he had a lot of stuff for that game. Sadly, it was not a big hit. But do you know, what's the trivia about Class of 1812, though? There's a lot of trivial things about Class of 1812. Well, it was right before they, it was, of course, the System 3, the first System 3 game that was introduced by Gottlieb. And then the final System 3 with the Alpha Numerical, of course, was Operation Thunder. Oh, Operation Thunder had that one, too. But that's a pretty good game. Yeah. It kind of missed fire. Poor Gottlieb just had all these problems, and, you know, they missed the boot on a bunch of stuff. But you've got to admit that their hardware is the best hardware out there. Oh, yeah. I don't know that for a time. I've never heard that. What do you have to say about the bags game? Oh, is that it? Bags! Bags! You could go nuts for bags. You know what? It turned out to be pretty good. It's one of my favorite games. It's the first arcade game I ever bought. It was Incredible Technologies Bags. And then I went out and I got the Lawn Darts upgrade. And it's pretty solid, man. It's pretty good. I like it. We actually had fun playing the thing when we did this dream on it. and it was a bunch of us. Some folks drove in from Ohio so they could see on the show. They drove to Ohio and they played the bags game with us and it was kind of fun. Easy to pick up. It's like the poor man's golden tea. It's the same track. The poor man's golden tea. Well, listen, Todd, I appreciate that you took the time and you joined us on stream tonight. I can't tell you how excited I am to have you come in on Wednesday and do that Expo Tailgate stream with us. It's going to be fun. It's going to be a nice little VIP party. I promise that you're going to have a good time. You're going to be in good hands. There better be a lot of food. Oh, absolutely, buddy. I will take care. I will ask for your personal request. Coming in the Chicagoland area, we're known for some decent food, and we'll be happy to take care of it. Well, I have to keep it. You know, I've been keeping my calorie count between 1,200 and 1,500. I've lost 35 pounds already. Yeah, that's unbelievable. You can do it, but a slice of pizza is 300 to 350. Every week that goes by, Todd, I'm loving you a little bit less because you're losing the LBs. Yeah, I have to lose it or I'll die. No, you're good to go. We'll make sure that you're in good hands here and we'll take care of it. If you need anything from us, let us know, but I'll be in contact with you later in the week. Thank you so much. Thank you for everything for TNT that you guys do. I can't wait to see you here in literally about a month and a half. It's going to be awesome, a month and a half. Thanks, guys. Thanks for calling in, Todd. Thanks, Todd. Be good. You got it. All right. Later. You never know what you're going to get on the Flip N Out Pinball streaming network. So ladies and gentlemen, Todd Tuckey of TMT Amusements and Grim Tim 1980. Thanks for the assist on there. Tim has been working with Todd for a little bit. It's always good times as we get caught up in chat. I'll have to lose it or I'll die. Such a Bill Webber. Bill Webber. Not a liver. Oh, man. Great pinball character. Yeah. Todd Tuckey is just. He's iconic. He's iconic in the industry. Literally iconic. They have the pizza with the paper towel before you eat it. absorbs some of the oil content. That is true. Yeah, you lose like 30 kills. Todd says, thanks for all the nice comments, folks. Couldn't respond while on the phone, but you know what? We kept him on the phone longer than he probably needed to be, and we appreciate his efforts for that. Thank you, Todd. Now get out! Right. So listen, so we're at 10-10. I can't think of a better way to end the show than on that call from Todd Tuckey. So we're going to close down the Flip N Out Pinball call-in line. We're going to do our thanks and our respects. I wanted to thank everybody that's here in chat tonight. That makes the channel actually as fun as it is because we always talk about how fun it is to chill out, hang out with everybody in chat. I want to thank some of the contributors tonight. Cardboard Live, who popped in here unexpectedly. Thank you so much. Taco Pizza, Kid Caruso. David L. Dennis. Pin Quest Pinball popped in. Now, Pin Quest Pinball is supposed to be hanging out with his wife. He still manages to come in here and hang out and have a good time. I saw him sneak in, too. Jason from Slapstick Pinball. Dirty Toes B, who, on his birthday, was in chat with us, gave us some bits, and then had a friend call in to uncover some dark secrets. Southwestern Pennsylvania Pinhead, thank you so much. Mac Jedi, who I've had the fortune, or I've been fortunate in talking to him on PMs lately. And then Crimson 1980, representing TNT Amusement. It's always good to hear from Tim. I want to thank Bill. He's not here, but he is kind of here a little bit. And Bill still might be here. Is he still learning? I don't know. He might be laying down thumbing. Well, literally, Bill's laying low because he's on his back because his back's all jacked up. So it is what it is. Steve, I want to thank you because, listen. Hey, man. I mean, you're here and you're irreplaceable. And I appreciate that you're here not only tonight but every single week. It's always fun, dude. You're a close personal friend of mine. I appreciate you guys having me. Love to have you. Ken, Bill, Zach, Nicole, I appreciate you guys having me on here every week. Well, BD's greatness. I think it's flipping up. It all says. Finally, I want to thank sponsors. Neil from PinQuest couldn't be in here all night tonight, but he's always been good helping us out with the channel. Scott from Pin Stadium has been here every single week. He started with us in the ground up of this channel. and as we look at some of the resubs now we're getting into three months now remember we haven't this channel hasn't been up for just three months because it took us about a month to get affiliate status so we're about a quarter of the year into it and it doesn't feel like it's been that long but scott's been here from day one we appreciate uh the support we appreciate the product we appreciate everything that he does not just for the channel but for the community scott thank you very very much and then finally finally finally finally uh zach and nicole many who have they're running an unbelievable ship over there flipping out pinball. They are. I'm going to say this every single stream, and I don't care if I become a broken record, because I will put my reputation on the line, whether or not you think I've got a reputation or not, my personal reputation. If you are looking for a distributor, Zach and Nicole Mennie at Flip N Out Pinball will not disappoint. point. You will not find a better pinball purchasing experience with these two. You will not be disappointed. You will not find a better level of support. That's not to say that any other distributor is lacking because there's a lot of really good distributors out there and I've had the pleasure of dealing with several of them. I've chosen Zach and Nicole many for my personal distributor and I encourage you, if you have a distributor that's working, it's not broke, don't fix it. Go for it. But if you're looking for make a switch or if you're looking to get into pinball, call this gentleman and share your thoughts, and he'll walk you through the purchase. I'm telling you, our reputation online. My reputation. Warm bucket of chicken. No doubt. If it's a bad experience. So thank you, Zach and Nicole, so much. And I think at this point, ladies and gentlemen, we're probably going to rock this thing down. We're going to get caught up in chat. Go on. Wrap it up. We have, there's some heavy breathing. Grim Tim, 1980, another 100 bits. Come on, Tim. You're already the man, brother. We appreciate the support. I can't wait until you guys are back on stream so I can go ahead and I can reciprocate the support. Even Dennis is a good guy. He doesn't get a bye from us. Yeah, Dennis is a good guy. That's how. I love that Dennis is here. That's what I need. I love that we have, okay, so listen. We have a lot of the same names that we see in chat every single week. Yeah. And now I'm starting to recognize these names on a weekly basis. And that means a lot to me because that means there's loyalty not to ourselves, but just to hanging out with individuals on a Monday night. And that's what the stream's about, right? It's a hangout. It doesn't really matter as much what we stream, but it helps because you're going to see the new pinball machines about as quickly as you can. But it's the community that we've built here. And in four short months, I mean, it's kind of like touching. Like, we've got a pretty solid community of people. And it's people that I would associate myself with on a daily basis. it's people that PM us on Facebook and we have conversations with people that I haven't met that I'm looking forward to meeting at Expo at a future pinball show the community that we build here at Flip N Out Pinball streaming network is something that I didn't envision originally but I'm happy that I'm a part of and thanks for letting us be a part of your Monday nights yeah thank you too you know I was telling Bill earlier I was like maybe Chicago Expo everybody wears like a little Flip N Out Pinball sticker with their name on it. You're looking like a little name badge. So we all know who's in chat. That's a pretty good idea, man. It's kind of like a little name placard. So you kind of like... Yeah. I know Pinside kind of does that sort of thing. Sure. Maybe we have a flipping out pinball gathering or something. Oh, there we go. That would actually be pretty cool. There we go, flipping out a gathering. Oh. Oh. See, now Zach's doing this. He's like... He's like, all right, all right, we should do that. We should do that. So I have 10.14 in the p.m. here. 10.14. We're going to rock the stream down. Finally, thanks, everybody. So next week is going to be Labor Day. We're not sure what's happening next week. There's a chance we've got a new machine here. There's a chance that we don't have a new machine here. I would guess that there's a 50-50 chance that we actually stream on Labor Day. Yeah. Okay. I will say this. The week after Labor Day, whether we stream or not, if everything falls into place, we will have a new machine here, and we will have one of the most unbelievable guests to stream a pinball machine on a live stream in the history of this channel. Oh, it's going to be great. And I would say it'll be a treat. I'll just leave it to you. I'll leave it at that. Yeah. And we'll see what goes. It's not going to be President Trump. I'll rewind and read some lips. That would be impressive to have any president of the United States in here, or Jenny McCarthy. Yeah. It's not going to be Jenny McCarthy, but it'll be fun. You got anything else, Steve, before we rock this thing out? You know what? That's it. I love Monday nights. I love hanging out with you guys. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for chatting. Thank you for calling in. Thank you, Ken and Bill, for having me here. Yeah, thanks for coming. Thank you, Zach and Nicole, for doing this whole shebang. Oh, man, good times. It's like an Academy Award speech going long, but I love it. I know. And cut it off. Yeah, good times. Boom. All right, we'll let it go. Love you all. Hey, I guess good morning, good afternoon, good evening, as Bill would say. and don't forget to take some time out of your day and watch some pinball. So long, everybody. Watch. you you you you

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