# 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters Qualifying | Day 1 | Second Session **Source:** IE Pinball **Type:** video **Published:** 2020-06-02 **Duration:** 303m 23s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2umxgR7oHk --- ## Analysis IE Pinball coverage of the 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters Day 1, Second Session at Grand Line Games/Flipper Spiel in Las Vegas. Commentators Carl D'Angelo and Colin McAlpine cover pin golf tournament play across Star Trek and Black Rose with detailed analysis of strategies, shot execution, and scoring mechanics. Pin golf format uses target scores with stroke penalties ranging from 1-5 based on performance relative to the goal. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] Star Trek target score was 35 million for pin golf; Black Rose target score was 15 million — _Carl and Colin directly state target scores at the start of each game's coverage_ - [HIGH] Pin golf scoring divides the zero-to-target gap linearly into 5 strokes; missing the target by 5 million on a 35 million target yields a 10 stroke penalty — _Carl explains the scoring formula: 'between zero and the target score it just goes linearly divided by five'_ - [HIGH] Star Trek LE and Pro versions play very differently due to different scoop kick-out geometry and kickback mechanics — _Colin discusses: 'LE version so it's a very it plays very differently on the left scoop shot where that shot is actually very safe because it feeds back to your left in Lane versus the pro that you probably see more often out on location where the kick out from the left scoop is quite random'_ - [HIGH] Tournament directors intentionally shortened multiball ball saves on modern pins to increase difficulty — _Carl states: 'the tournament directors have intentionally shortened all the multi-ball ball saves on Modern pins'_ - [HIGH] Jason Wardrick shot a hole-in-one on Star Trek (35 million target on ball one) via Klingon multiball and Prime Directive stacking — _Carl: 'Jason wardrick as player four got it on ball one' and detailed play-by-play of his shot sequence_ - [HIGH] Most modern tournament machines have no rubber on in-lane/outlane post dividers, making games play harder — _Colin: 'on pretty much all the moderns except for Attack From Mars the in-lane outlane post dividers have no rubber on it so it's making the games play much harder on that outline area'_ - [HIGH] Black Rose has two predominant strategies: (1) traditional multiball to get Sunk Ship letters, or (2) shooting the broadside saucer repeatedly for awards — _Carl describes: 'there's two predominant ways to play it the first way is the traditional you want to get sync ship letters' and discusses the broadside saucer strategy_ - [HIGH] One Sunk Ship on Black Rose equals the 15 million target (first Sunk Ship is 20 million) — _Carl: 'one sunk ship will get you the Target on this because your first song ship is 20 million'_ - [MEDIUM] Yasmine and Kaylee recently relocated back to Seattle area — _Colin mentions: 'Yasmine stepping up and and she and Kaylee recently relocated back to the U.S I believe they're living in the Seattle area again but I don't know that for sure'_ - [HIGH] Kickback geometry on Star Trek LE makes outlane drains more dangerous when kickback is not lit because the smooth curve aids ball egress — _Colin explains: 'the way that a kickback works because it has to have that nice smooth curve to it for the kickback to work when the ball is kicked back into play it also provides that same smoothness for the ball to drain'_ ### Notable Quotes > "if you missed the score you get a maybe one stroke penalty for a bogey here you can get up to five Strokes of pain and that is based on your score to the Target" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, early > _Explanation of unique pin golf scoring penalty system that differentiates this format from traditional tournament play_ > "he's dialed in... he is he's nearly halfway to his goal and uh all he's done is played Klingon one so very well played there from Jason wardrick" > — **Colin McAlpine**, mid-Star Trek > _Commentary on Jason's efficient shot selection and scoring strategy en route to his hole-in-one_ > "I would cast that in now... now he's in the safety of multiball these multi-ball ball saves are very short the tournament directors have intentionally shortened all the multi-ball ball saves on Modern pins" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, mid-Star Trek > _Reveals deliberate tournament setup choice to increase difficulty by reducing ball save windows_ > "every player no matter when you drain you drain right outside of if you take advantage of an invalid Playfield um which uh which is certainly something you can do you can even do it on this game" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, mid-Star Trek > _Discussion of invalid playfield re-plunging mechanic and fairness implications for competitive play_ > "that was going down the middle but he did a double double flip move one after the other and got him back take a free space jump for free" > — **Colin McAlpine**, mid-Star Trek > _Technical shot execution commentary highlighting difficult defensive flipper technique_ > "the other thing about the plunge is if you try to full plunge this you will not necessarily make it all the way up that side ramp and if it goes partial in the side ramp about maybe halfway to three quarters up you're pretty much guaranteed to drain down the right out lane" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, Black Rose intro > _Strategic setup information about Black Rose plunge physics and risk/reward_ > "you could hold up your right flipper and it would give you a cradle on your right flipper and then you could rinse repeat do the same thing again" > — **Colin McAlpine**, Black Rose strategy > _Description of repeatable broadside saucer strategy on Black Rose_ > "own your drains" > — **Colin McAlpine**, early Star Trek > _Philosophical commentary on player accountability for missed shots; reflects tournament mentality_ > "it's huge psychologically too if you can start out with a good hole and put up a nice low score like a hole in one or anything you know two or three it just it really just helps kind of set the table for you hey you're in the zone" > — **Colin McAlpine**, post-Jason hole-in-one > _Analysis of psychological momentum effects in tournament play_ > "that is on Fred... he walked up and it said shoot ball or player four was so I thought player four was fun" > — **Fred Richardson (speaker) / Colin McAlpine (commentator)**, mid-Star Trek > _Documentation of player error where Fred accidentally launched Jason Wardrick's ball during his own turn_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | Carl D'Angelo | person | Co-host/commentator providing strategic analysis and tournament knowledge; producer of the broadcast | | Colin McAlpine | person | Co-host/commentator providing play-by-play analysis and mechanical/strategic insights | | Jason Wardrick | person | Competitive player who achieved hole-in-one on Star Trek (35 million in ball one) via Klingon multiball; player four in group | | Fred Richardson | person | Player 1 in the group; made error interfering with Jason's ball; struggled with center shot consistency | | Yasmine | person | Competitive player; recently relocated to Seattle area; favorite game is Scared Stiff; played multiple balls with mixed results | | Kaylee | person | Recently relocated to Seattle area with Yasmine | | Greg Paparelli | person | Player from New York City; struggled early but recovered on ball five to finish with 7-stroke score on Star Trek | | Grand Line Games | venue | Tournament venue in Las Vegas hosting 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters (also called Flipper Spiel underground arcade club) | | Flipper Spiel | venue | Underground arcade club in Las Vegas co-hosting the 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters | | Star Trek | game | Pinball machine used as hole 5 in pin golf tournament; 35 million target score; plays differently on LE vs Pro versions | | Black Rose | game | Pinball machine used in later tournament play; 15 million target score; multiple strategic paths available | | Game of Thrones | game | Listed as one of the pin golf tournament games; mentioned alongside Star Wars in target score board | | Star Wars | game | Pin golf tournament game; described as difficult goal to reach despite low target score | | Sorcerer | game | Pin golf tournament game listed on target score board | | X-Men | game | Pin golf tournament game noted to have multiple strategic paths | | Attack from Mars | game | Pin golf tournament game; noted as exception with rubber on in-lane/outlane post dividers | | Abracadabra | game | Pin golf tournament game; considered reasonable target difficulty | | Tron | game | Pin golf tournament game listed on target score board | | 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters | event | Tournament event in Las Vegas using pin golf format with target scores; Day 1 Second Session being broadcast | | IE Pinball | organization | Media/broadcast organization producing the tournament coverage | | Scared Stiff | game | Yasmine's favorite game | | pinball nerds podcast | organization | Referenced as viewer/supporter in chat donation | | Stern | company | Pinball manufacturer (implied as manufacturer of Star Trek and other modern machines in tournament) | ### Topics - **Primary:** pin golf tournament format and scoring mechanics, Star Trek pinball strategy and shot execution, Black Rose pinball strategy and mechanics, Tournament setup and difficulty (kickback, ball saves, tilt, outlane posts) - **Secondary:** Competitive player performance and psychology, LE vs Pro version differences in modern machines, Broadcast production and mobile rig technology, Game design and player strategy diversity ### Sentiment **Positive** (0.75) — Enthusiastic commentators demonstrating deep expertise and appreciation for tournament play and game mechanics. Respectful of player performance even when describing errors. Some frustration expressed about setup difficulty (tight slings, removed rubbers) but presented as intentional design choices. Overall tone is engaging and educational. ### Signals - **[event_signal]** Live broadcast coverage of 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters Day 1 Second Session at Grand Line Games/Flipper Spiel in Las Vegas (confidence: high) — Detailed play-by-play commentary with multiple player groups, target scores, and tournament format explanation - **[competitive_signal]** Pin golf format tournament using target scores with graduated stroke penalties (0-5 strokes) based on final score relative to target (confidence: high) — Extensive explanation of scoring system and multiple player attempts to hit 35M target on Star Trek, 15M on Black Rose - **[gameplay_signal]** Jason Wardrick demonstrated effective mode stacking on Star Trek by combining Klingon multiball with Prime Directive mode for hole-in-one (confidence: high) — Detailed shot sequence showing Jason's first-ball success and commentator analysis of mode stacking value - **[design_philosophy]** Tournament directors intentionally modified machine configurations for increased difficulty: shortened ball saves, removed outlane post rubbers, hard kickback re-light setting, tight tilt (confidence: high) — Carl and Colin explain multiple setup modifications: 'tournament directors have intentionally shortened all the multi-ball ball saves', 'in-lane outlane post dividers have no rubber on it', 'set to extra hard' re-light - **[gameplay_signal]** Star Trek and Black Rose both support multiple viable strategies; Star Trek has Klingon multiball, Vengeance multiball, super ramps, and various mode paths; Black Rose has lock-based multiball and broadside saucer repeating (confidence: high) — Commentators note: 'this game has a lot of different paths' and describe multiple strategic approaches players used - **[product_concern]** Significant playability differences between LE and Pro versions of Star Trek due to scoop geometry, kickback mechanics, and physical layout (confidence: high) — Colin detailed discussion: 'LE version plays very differently on the left scoop shot... versus the pro... where the kick out from the left scoop is quite random' and kickback geometry differences - **[venue_signal]** Grand Line Games and Flipper Spiel in Las Vegas hosted 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters with pin golf format across multiple machines (confidence: high) — Repeated venue references throughout broadcast and title of session - **[content_signal]** IE Pinball using mobile rig with wireless cameras for tournament coverage; described as technology being copied for location-based play (confidence: high) — Colin: 'moving that sweet wheeled mobile rig with wireless cameras... that's what uh everybody is uh is copying now for your you know your location bass play' - **[gameplay_signal]** Black Rose has dangerous plunge mechanics; partial plunge up side ramp (50-75%) guarantees right outlane drain; full plunge may not reach top (confidence: high) — Carl: 'if you try to full plunge this you will not necessarily make it all the way up that side ramp and if it goes partial... you're pretty much guaranteed to drain down the right out lane' - **[competitive_signal]** Jason Wardrick achieved hole-in-one on Star Trek; other players (Fred, Greg, Yasmine) struggled with 35M target, taking 7-10 stroke penalties (confidence: high) — Detailed play-by-play of all four players' attempts with final stroke scores documented --- ## Transcript foreign [Music] got it Clark is it Clark Clark got it first a uh oh what what just happened [Music] all right hello and uh welcome to the second session of the IPA pit Masters here in Las Vegas at Grand line games and The Flipper Spiel arcade Club I'm Carl D'Python Anghelo with me is calling back outline and we are going to be following this group playing Star Trek starting on Star Trek welcome welcome yeah we've got a lot of people that have been uh been involved and sticking with us for the yesterday's marathon of North American championships and Women's World Championships and uh this is a completely different style of scoring uh with the different strategies that you'll see players using because they're not this is they're not looking to beat their opponents they're simply looking to achieve the target score and unlike other pin golf uh that you may have played locally where if you missed the score you get a maybe one stroke penalty for a bogey here you can get up to five Strokes of pain and that is based on your score to the Target so between zero and the target score it just goes linearly divided by five so you can see in Star Trek here we have a Target score of 35 million which is uh not something that you can just get quickly you have to work at it and if you uh if you get that in ball one you'll get a hole in one if you get that on ball two you get a hole in two etc etc if you do not get that in five balls then you get a score based upon the uh you know the sheet there that is essentially taking the target score to zero and dividing by five so you could if you only got 5 million let's say on Star Trek you would get a 10. in here they're in warm-ups so let me uh move over to the Target so everyone can see them they can't see that oh they can't see they can't see that I've had in a load in a moment all right so these are all the target scores for the games uh starting from the top we've got Tron Game of Thrones uh Star Wars sorcerer Star Trek going down the bottom row Black Rose X-Men attack from Mars and then abracadabra all right this group is starting out on Star Trek so it's hole number five you can see in the upper right and uh so Carl you and I both played in the first round which which uh whole Target score surprised you the most in terms of either ease or difficulty um a lot of good Star Wars game which shocked me so but I expected that to be that's hard for most people as funny as it is 200 seems very low on that game but the way this one plays it's it's a difficult goal to reach I think Abra was reasonable yeah yeah you just I unfortunately I came 30 points short of the goal on ball three so I think 4-0 yeah I got a hole in one in Star Trek so that was my best uh that was my best hole so and then that in that game essentially I I was playing modes uh I was gonna go I was gonna start going too deep because the second the second level modes have some good good points on them and then take the locks as they came to me and I ended up bouncing into the lock uh targets enough I had sorry I had uh one lock left one light lock Target left so I went ahead and shot for it and I nailed it and uh and then I bounced into it as I was playing my second mode and got my third lock lit and like well I didn't have a good mode I was only on space jump but uh decided to go for my Klingon multiball and I just cling on I was able to walk off Klingon multiball nice see I took a different path I was going for super ramps okay so I finished those three modes so I never actually got the super ramps I I started a Vengeance multiballing and got most of my score from that okay yeah it is because vengeance is not an insignificant piece uh with only a 35 million Target because you can get a 10 million just for the the final shot and you can get probably another you know maybe three to five million on the way there right and the Victory laps can actually be very valuable in Vengeance if you can make it past the the Vengeance destruction shot all right so we have Fred starting first funky fresh Fred Richardson looks like he is trying to backhand that left orbit and he keeps breaking it but the game is being kind and letting him have control again and oh and just I cursed him he did but that you know that was not the game being unkind that was Fred missing his shot and I've missed that exact same shot in that exact same way off of that exact same post and drain down the middle and so I do not blame the game for that one own your drains so what's interesting on this game I think for paying off is everyone seems to have a different strategy or there are a lot of different ways to reach this goal compared to a lot of the other games in this in this Hall this game has a lot of different paths correct and so does actually the other one that does have a few different paths is X-Men we're going to see BC here in just a couple games um black rose actually has also a few different paths um you know they will we'll see what they how they play this one so we have uh Yasmine stepping up and and she and Kaylee recently relocated back to the U.S I believe they're living in the Seattle area again but I don't know that for sure so nice profile information here her favorite game is scared stiff and she is doing destroy the drill um looks like she's just gonna be playing it out she's not going for a galactic away team well now she is there we go so she gets more time in the mode and she lights the spinner which this spinner was not that juicy I'm kind of disappointed they didn't lube it up but the uh you do get good points just from shooting that left orbit even though the spinner isn't that great of points there we go so that if she can keep in she will probably she may choose to abandon flipping the upper flipper here nope she was going for the like light locks which is perfectly fine the other way to play that is to let the ball drop down to your lower right flipper live catch and then shoot the left orbit again I haven't seen many people successful on the left Orbit on the Fly shot like she's trying to do this has to be our fifth or sixth attempt yeah it's interesting how similar that left orbit shot is to the left Orbit on Game of Thrones and you can play them back to back they won't because they start on a Star Trek so some decent progress uh although she did not get her locks lit that's what you'd like to do uh Greg paparelli was player two unfortunately I'll very briefly saw Greg because he bricked one shot and went straight down the middle I was actually a little bit shocked that he didn't try to save it Star Trek had is playing friendlier than most of the other pins here both in terms of how it's set up as also in particularly the Tilt mob right you can get away with a big move on Star Trek and not tilt out you can even get away with a medium move and only take one danger on it and uh so that helps you the other thing that you can't see from the camera is that the on pretty much all the moderns except for Attack From Mars the in-lane outlane post dividers have no rubber on it so it's making the games play much harder on that outline area and especially for the games that have tight tilts uh Jason was trying a technique there of just simply holding up the upper flipper he just took two dangers for that wow that was he must have shoved that pretty hard he was trying to get the the Ricochet from the right orbit return from the raised held upper flipper into the light locks targets uh he still has one left to get his lineup his locks lit foreign strategy on Star Trek very effective because he's getting good points and is completely safe back to the flipper wow he is he's dialed in oh he went to the really late to the right orbit but man that was some serious dial than shooting there and he's nearly halfway to his goal and uh all he's done is played Klingon one so very well played there from Jason wardrick I know so this is an Le version so it's a very it plays very differently on the left scoop shot where that shot is actually very safe because it feeds back to your left in Lane versus the pro that you probably see more often out on location where the kick out from the left scoop is quite random yeah no having to worry about the thing about the top of the post or the last thing among other things indeed so it's amazing how much variation you can put in advance the kick out yep he will probably go for this so he started out with Klingon so it'll be interesting to see what he does here okay he did not he's he took a warp ramp so the warp ramp isn't interesting so he did a nice technique there where he shot the warp ramp and used the uh the momentum of the ball just holding up his upper flipper and it struck the lower two of the light lock targets it did not make it up to the upper by mock Target so that one is still flashing it's going for that again there he gets it and and he'll take it when you can get a given a thumbs up yep I like to do the same thing thanking the machine for the the friendly bounce and let's see what he's going to do here okay yeah he's oh okay Prime director is a good choice uh he option many players will often pursue is they'll try to get three in a row in the Triangle I'd say most people who have played pinball recently know this about Star Trek but if you're new to it if you can get three in a row on any side of the triangle it will light a super feature in this case on the left hand side the left-hand side the uh you will get the super Pops I believe I don't know unfortunately I know the super ramps on the right I think it's pops on the left yeah another strategy that could have uh may have been useful here is um the prime directive one scoring is not that great if he would have gone to Klingon battle two especially with how dialed any was on the ramps um he could have done made some serious progress towards that Target goal just continue to ramp out on Klingon too about I think it's probably about a million a shot right so he's trying to time this out obviously so he's got one final shot oh no the timer yeah that's right there's no dual colored blinking error yet oh nice he now has his third lock lid from that nice ricochet and he's taking his Galactic away team which uh on level one modes you have that available to you under the upper right flipper and that gives you certain uh different way of playing each of those modes in this case it's galactic Lanes which he's getting some great pop bumper love into those lanes and he's got it wow I was not expecting that from Galactic Lanes but those Galactic lanes were a big part of what he uh got yeah 15 million from prime directive it's awesome good job Jason great way to start out it's a it's huge psychologically too if you can start out with a good hole and put up a nice low score like a hole in one or anything you know two or three it just it really just helps kind of set the table for you hey you're in the zone you got to play another one thing interesting about this format though is that Jason will now have to cool off so unlike other pinball competitions where Jason would keep playing he once you get the target you you stop and then you're waiting for your group to all for them to try to hit the target so he will lose a little bit of his momentum but psychologically he gets to carry that because he knows he has a hole in one in the bag foreign thank you for the bits pinball nerds podcast appreciate it Carl appreciates it yes so once again this is a 35 million Target for this hole of pin golf so each player is trying to get 35 million Jason wardrick as player four got it on ball one this is Fred Richardson on ball two trying to get progress towards that 35 million he's taken the galactic away team on the prime directive mode Let's see if he can get some of those uh okay so he is doing prime directive so he is going to take the Super pops which is a good thing if he uh couples that with multiball because generally it'll just complete by itself and I think the super modes now they all have roughly the same scoring threshold right they don't really change much or is it based on how you perform in the modes no I think they're all the same yeah I think it's just roughly about 10 million yeah now the ramps you can double up on that right with the combo shots and that's primarily why I was going for ramps when I was playing but the pops are very active on this so it should you know max out in no time yep so he's still on the base level of prime directive he is not shot underneath the upper flipper this is the what's lit right now for Galactic away team it goes down into there and starts your your Uber mode of that level one mode um I would assume he's gonna go for his locks oh wow that just rejected him he's given a little head shake there because he nailed that Center shot but it did not let the ball in there he bricked it he deserved to miss that because he was not he did not time his shot in fact now he if I were him I would abandon that center Shot go for the left get him Mode start as well change it up a little bit then come back to the center Shot later and that's what he did but missed that as well he was late oh but gets the friendly Ricochet thank you Star Trek oh wow that was rough now unlike Fred's first ball drain that one I will blame on the pin yeah that was wrong all right Greg getting uh more flips three times the flips that he did in the first ball hopefully he can continue this good nice dead bounce good patience there instead of flipping gets a crap oh and he got a lot of action on that the target Bank there with vengeance so now he has been just multiball ready I would cast that in now and that's what he's trying he did not squeeze it into that center Shot he wants to pop it in there there it is so now he's in the safety of multiball these multiball ball saves are very short the tournament directors have intentionally shortened all the multiball ball saves on Modern pins uh so you'll see that going away right about now and uh oh oh that one oh thank you thank you grace period that will come back to compliments of the kickback that will not so unfortunately a wasted opportunity there for Greg where he worked to and got his Vengeance multiball ready but then didn't execute in the multiball phase and then quickly missed a shot and it bounced gently to his death on the left out lane rough ball two for Greg given the situation and setup he had so he ends with 3.3 still chasing that 35 million Target here in pin golf at the pin Masters in Las Vegas Nevada at Grand line Games The Flipper Spiel underground arcade Club so the left out lane it's not only different I mean the scoop isn't the only different thing in the Le there's also some different different geometry here because of the physical Kickback yeah and actually that element of the Le in the premium Place Carter yes much harder than the pro because the pro has the same feature it has the virtual Kickback which works every time by the way you know it's not like a mechanical thing that connect it can rob you thank you get that out of your system now Star Trek good job so yeah those uh that's why of games you know when when the kickback first came out you know it's it was very appealing to players because they think hey they're getting their ball back when you are you're getting your ball back when it's lit yeah the issue though as Carl pointed out is that the way that a kickback works because it has to have that nice smooth curve to it for the kickback to work when the ball is kicked back into play it also provides that same smoothness for the ball to drain and so if you don't have your Kickback lit you are in much more danger with a kickback geometry than a traditional geometry what was he doing there why did he do that I have no idea what on Earth why did he do that he thought he was draining Jason's ball oh my gosh that is on Fred yep I'm sorry dude yeah it is yeah you can look at him he's talking yeah ouch so the other thing about the kickback has been set to extra hard so relining it sounds extra hard yeah so you can you can relight the kickback with these two Targets over here by completing them and normally in in factory settings you can re-light them you can re-light them very easily uh they've set it to extra hard which I think requires a couple extra completions um more than normal yeah however many more that was uh unfortunately a massive brain fart by Fred um and it's a good reminder for anybody who is stepping up to play you always want to check who's up so the good news for Fred is it only cost him a ball or a stroke and not like a DQ or if you play out a turn in in other formats true but uh he was unaware of what player was being plunged and uh it cost him you know what happened I walked up and it said shoot ball or player four was so I thought player four was fun all right Fred will have to just brush that off and get started again nice save there see there that was a pretty big move that Craig put on there and he only got one danger so yeah you should definitely be nudging away on this uh Star Trek oh and he could have nudged that and saved that one unfortunately I think he could have gotten away with another single danger nudge and slap say that but unfortunately he did not he goes down the middle for ball three with only five he's got 30 million more points to go to try to get the Target and now player three Yasmine steps up she has six million in the bank she's also chasing the 35 million she has uh vengeance is ready is that what that is oh no oh and so this is the brutality this is and this is why on location why you have ball saves because if you have a casual player stepping up and they get one flip of the ball and then they're done that quickly they will not enjoy their experience in the game which is I'm a little bit concerned with monsters being that the the way the factory sends it out is without a ball safe right um so here in high level competition you know not having a ball save is actually fairer because then every player no matter when you drain you drain right outside of if you take advantage of an invalid Playfield um which uh which is certainly something you can do you can even do it on this game so actually right now his play field is still invalid still invalid yeah you can tell by the blink still invalid so if he didn't like it being on the left flipper he could have dumped that ball and re-punched it good save there that was going down the middle but he did a double double flip move one after the other and got him back take a free space jump for free off the ride out we're up to the right orbit and let's see what he is he on his lock three is that lock three knock knock two but he has a third lock lit the center I think both of them both of them are lit because the lock three yeah lights both of them so if I were him because he had so much trouble there on the center I would be going yes I oh no no no no no oh I couldn't find that shot again and if he would have started that multiball there's a ton of points available in Klingon multiball and um he is not going to get a chance to find him at least on this ball he has one more ball that he'll get a chance to play uh this is Greg pavarelli from New York City stepping up he says his ball four these are all set to five ball games for the pin golf format that we're using here and uh oh man so yasmine's stepping up she's letting she oh man she did a really good thing there that was incredible oh no oh everything except for that brick drain was very well played by Yasmine she knew that she had Vengeance multiball ready so rather than put the ball out of control side to side of the upper flipper she lets it go past rubber flipper but it catches the right sling goes out of control she has to go on the fly to the center shot and Bricks straight down the middle that oh wow so and now good to know so maybe other players if they're watching this can figure out that if they're going to do that same technique of letting the ball come down past that right upper flipper and you don't flip at it but you need to give a little bit of a side slap and given that the the Tilt settings in this you can get away with that and that way it will keep it'll come off the wall or come a little bit off The Flipper so it won't catch that right sling on the way down to the safety of your right flipper wow he bricked that upper flipper shot and it was just oh no he missed again come on Fred I can't find it all right slow it down here we go go to the center I hope he was late late again all right if Greg would probably want to let this okay he's just gonna he wants to step up and play um he with Fred tilting that ball you know a lot of times you will uh you know take it take a few moments maybe 30 seconds or so let a tilt mom settle that's what Greg's doing right here he's giving that till about time to settle um another technique I'm fond of using in my tournaments is uh using the the very high-tech earplug mod of wedging an ear plug into the hole of the bracket that the Tilt Bob stick is dangling from and that dampens the movement so that it comes to a settle much quicker anyway Greg is uh playing space jump he has locks lit I don't recall how many locks he had he was going for the away team shot which I'm not sure why he would want to do that at this point in the game to complete spaceship yeah go to prime directive to try well it wasn't even completed then that now it's now the timer now I'll complete it before when he took his first shot it wasn't ready to be completed he saw a time left which would have extended his timer right right it would have gone through the single shot yeah which okay there we go finally somebody hits the center lock shot yes okay now hopefully this will not oh no I've never seen another Star Trek so it's a drop to the right I've never seen one drop it into the right sling I've seen a lot of them drop mostly to the right flipper some of them are mean and we'll try to go straight down the middle so you have to give it a little shimmy as it comes out of there maybe out of this one too maybe giving a little shimmy to see if it'll do something different than going to the right sling nice nice it's it's coming off this target right here yeah there's a there's a there's a little rubber on that post there so oh nice beautiful nails it on the Fly everybody party we're going to the Disco and we're playing some Klingon multiball he also has prime directive going at the same time so he's getting uh that's called stacking when you have a mode running prior to starting a multiball so he's getting credit for both the Klingon jackpot shots where are his other balls okay so once again the ball save is off already because these ball saves are very short and if you combo your shots you get double the value so he will get a good value of 750 for that one he still has a ball up in the pops man if he would have had super pops he has super ramps though so now Prime director is over he can now combo ramp shots and get 20 million points which would I think pretty much put him yeah he's already at 20 million oh man oh oh no no so Greg depending on his bonus here oh good good bonus so he will end at seven he did not get above the 28 million threshold for a six so he will take a seven for Star Trek uh I know he's not that was still a good recovery for him on ball five I know he's not satisfied with that but um but that was a lot better than where he was at least started the ball he certainly would have liked to have a much better Klingon multiball all right we'll see what Yasmine can do here let's see if she tries the same thing there it is there you go and nail it oh she caught the mystery black hole unfortunately that consumes that uh but it looks like she has another one stacked no oh my God oh no [Music] so unfortunately for Yasmine that will mean a she did get above it so she gets she does not take the 10 but still a 9 is not how you want to start things out uh very tale of very different games there with with wordrick getting a hole in one and the other players all taking relatively high scores in their first hole here of the ifpa pin Masters in Las Vegas Nevada here at flipper Spiel underground also called Grand line games my name is Colin MacAlpine Carl D'Python Anghelo your producer and fellow commentator is going out there and moving the rig right now you can see him moving that sweet wheeled mobile rig with wireless cameras so we don't have to deal with all the microphones fans and all the cables and cords anymore really good stuff and that's what uh everybody is uh is copying now for your you know your location bass play you know when it's not something in like an arena format like a you know pinberg or Papa or indisk it's great to have that mobile rig so we're moving on to the next game or not ship one sunk who sunk a ship already oh this is the previous game okay they just wrapped up on it all right moving on to a very different style game uh this is Black Rose and this target score uh if none of you wrote that down at home when we were covering those uh this is a 15 million so this is a very doable uh deceptively doable Target score I like that because uh this is also set up quite tough the the slings are Fierce the outlines are hungry and uh we'll see how the players handle the plunge the other thing about the plunge is if you try to full plunge this you will not necessarily make it all the way up that side ramp and if it goes partial in the side ramp about maybe halfway to three quarters up you're pretty much guaranteed to drain down the right out lane those are not making enough hardly at all so he's not draining off them but uh we saw in our match that we played on at least two people that drained off of side ramp Rejects and to the right outline we haven't even trouble getting it in the locker when it was ready oh my goodness so Jason getting all these uh bricks out of the way in his warm-up which that's exactly when you want to do that now of course you also would like to be able to find a few shots but uh his 30 seconds are up and so he will have to uh start out cold when he eventually plays Greg is playing second so he is practicing second there see that was it right there it went up it stopped and then came back down and bye bye so some common strategies on this um I'd say there's two predominant ways to play it the first way is the traditional you want to get sync ship letters because one sunk ship will get you the Target on this because your first song ship is 20 million and you can get sink ship letters uh easily or easiest by getting into multiball and this is where you want to complete your lane changeable inlanes of spelling lock so there are four inlanes and then after you spell lock this will be lit for a lock and as soon as you shoot that lock shot it will automatically start you in a two ball multiball or you can be in collecting sync ship letters you can also turn into a three ball multiball if you desire which will double your sink ship letters but given this target of uh of you know only 15 million points it's really not necessary to get get a three ball and it may be better off simply enjoying the uh one one ball play that you get when you lock a ball relock a ball during that two ball multiball we'll see how Fred does a knife throwing oh Nails it the too bad's practice yeah this is it has to just tilt the machine this was one of the tighter ones as far as it is as far as tilt settings so the other way to play this is uh you can see those uh White Lightning Bolt type of inserts that are pulsing on the way up to a saucer that you really can't see in the back of the Playfield I think Yasmeen was shooting for it there you can shoot it from either flipper from an early shot and it will grant you uh the award that it stops on as far as that that cycling light and there are many many good Awards to be had from shooting that that saucer is that called the broadside saucer is that what it's called I honestly don't know I don't know I know there's like broadside double broad side of this game but uh that is a very controllable way if you can find if it if you you wanna just like find one shot in the game and just go to that shot and keep going to that shot over and over again that's the one to do it because it will come out from a reuk a vertical up Kicker that will kick it down this Central habit Trail all the way down it will catch this little wall right here and bounce nicely over to your right flipper and on this particular Black Rose you could hold up your right flipper and it would give you a cradle on your right flipper and then you could rinse repeat do the same thing again so it will start some video modes one of them is in a instant multiball uh there's another one called Millions where any of the ramp the three ramp shots will give you a million points I think it is a billion plus it's billion plus yeah so it's million then two then three then wow see I started my millions and I promptly drained I I brick yeah I bricked my my first ramp shot and drained so I did not I was set up if I would have gotten that I could have maybe gotten a hole in one but uh I deserved a drain and I did all right let's see how Jason chooses to play this starting out with the plunge let's see if he soft plunges or if he goes for that skill shot that yellow flashing bank will open the locker which also isn't a bad strategy because your first award is double broadside which is essentially doing that exact same shot I was talking about oh he power plunged it and he got the uh oh my God he got the side ramp and then he flipped with his upper flipper and he found the right out lane and that's why the score the target scoring this is so low so yeah another strategy on this is you could go for that uh that yellow Target bank which would open your locker then shoot into the underneath the flap where the the side ramp will pop up and that will you load the cannon and if you successfully shoot the cannon to the flashing shot not necessarily the center Shot it will start a Mode called double broadside which is a Time mode where you go from one to two to four to eight million so you could essentially in I think mathematically three shots there sorry four shots four shots in four shots if you start double broadside and it's completely controllable you could be at your target score yeah I might try that next time I gotta remember this button is really tight you have to bash it to get it to fire out of the cannon at least I had to oh yeah yeah it was not Rick is out I noticed on one of my video modes that I got caught by the shark and that rarely happens and I think it's because that button isn't necessarily responding all the time yes on mine I I oh here's Millions Fred gets Millions let's see if he can cash in do what Carl did and not Colin oh that's exactly what happened to me I missed it just like that but he survives oh Whirlpool ramp is okay who's faster than that okay he wants oh get control and shoot a ramp please oh no oh no there we go come on Whirlpool got plenty of time there we go there's one oh yeah on the Fly that shot becomes so much earlier there's another two oh just barely missed it he's still got a little bit of time for another shot one more nope but he gets the in lane and that in Lane lights his locks all importantly let's see if we can control on the right flipper actually the left flipper works fine too the post transfer was working quite well in this game nice that lock shot is a lot wider and friendlier than the one in Star Trek and Fred found it good job Fred he begins a two ball multiball all right thank you for the recent follows appreciate you guys following IE pinball and all these streaming pinball goodness that Carl D'Python Anghelo is bringing for your viewing entertainment all right he's about 9 million right now so what would you do here Carl I shoot up the middle yeah good because I can't seem to repeat the whirlpool Ram it doesn't seem like many people have it it was tough yeah it was tough because otherwise you'd be going for Millions there yep well he well you can also get your light locks like your lock letters oh there we go one more away now he's early oh oh delaying change also but a good ball so that's nice to kind of have that under your belt you got 10 million going into your ball two so ball one that was an excellent ball one from Fred Richardson and he is in a prime position to be able to get to his 15 million Target on ball too it is yeah so as a uh Fred was commenting about uh so they intentionally disconnected a much of a fluorescent overhead lights they are literally directly overhead yeah you can see him still right right here oh yeah you can just see the reflection of the white plastic uh that uh is there and so yeah you can still see it just from the ambient light so if those things were on it would be ridiculous glare both the players as well as the stream oh another another quick drain that was the right idea she had the broadside lit for a couple million hurry up promise you didn't hold the flipper up before the ball came out oh she waited she caught it as it came off of that half Trail and just bumped it to that lane all right Jason steps up to ball too without really much of anything from ball one let's see what he chooses to do here goes for the skill shot and opens his locker can he survive yes he survives the plunge now his locker is open let's see if he tries to feed his upper flipper to shoot it into the locker is he gonna go by the ramp around to it that would be my preferred way is that the only way uh you could get lucky off the pop speed okay so instead he takes the the uh the safe and sure way of going to broadside so he gets 2 million for that treasure which that ain't bad he can get another too many right now he was late and that was my tendency too I had to I had to figure out that that shot is really really early on those backhands or back into the center I guess it's really not bad they're both yeah that one was unfortunately a little bit of a fumble I think he could have saved that he probably knows it as well um that's the end of his ball too ending with about three million points Greg paparelli is up next he also goes for the skill shot can he survive and the answer is no well I think he survives yeah just the he didn't catch the ball well enough coming out of the lock Lane so Game of Thrones we've had a failure now oh The Flipper has died okay well good news is we have Adam Becker pinball Tech extraordinaire probably gonna go work on that I'm assuming that they have plenty of stern parts here to do our flipper replacement I would hope so what would happen if the game went down uh I don't know considering that round one sorry yeah I have no idea [Laughter] um per the ifpa rules on unlimited qualifying the uh it's you know greater than 50 percent of the games have been played on it right but this is an unlimited qualifying true so oh wow sling dream oh my gosh this is this is there is a pain management clinic just below us if anybody would like to visit that there is this is this is truly painful to watch ah I really feel and I'm sure all of you watching who play Pinball can feel for these players and just watching the the game just eat their lunch I mean it's past lunchtime even here in Vegas it's dinner time out on the East Coast but the lunch is being eaten so his locker is already open so I don't think he needs to shoot the locker again does that carry ball the ball yeah so it's hoping you can see from the blinking light up I would like to see some of these players start to try to soft plunge why do we think a full plunger to go in there oh yeah oh it is okay here we go here we go see if you can actually get it he's gonna go from the left and oh it just rims out okay wait did it give it to him it did oh because there are other shots other targets that are lit why is he shooting for that shoot for the center oh no oh why was he shooting the whirlpool Ram that was that was his Target right there if four more shot three more shots and then he would have been there oh no Greg oh no and that's done why are they not he hit the locker already open I think he did he did yeah I mean that 500 000 points isn't worth it yeah the locker is open you can see it from that light blinking oh yeah yeah right there yeah it should have plunged into the locker yeah get your double broadside and go to town oh my goodness all right let's see Fred all right Fred redemus come on let's see if somebody hit the target score please all right soft plunge or in the time Perfect all right now and so this is your there you can shoot at any of those flashing drop targets or little targets or the center saucer and it missed do you need you don't have to hit the center the scoop at the top you can hit any of those targets that's correct yep that's a lot of targets it is he somehow missed them all wow all right all right Polly was killed that may and now it's two million this is big it was pretty close this is big this is the oh that was the Target right there if you had it come on survive survive okay survive still you still want to get that broadside nope oh no oh no okay still alive okay he's brought oh you got it already got it he got it a three for Fred three ninth throw for the road oh oh me parrot throws better Fred but Fred is past that hole he got a three uh that's uh not bad that's one under par so par what we've set up at this course a par is considered four so that's when we're showing the uh the over and under par that Carl has up on each player here is in reference to a score of four cumulatively on across all holes here we go Yasmine can hit any of those flashing Target Banks or the center hole and she gets it okay so now survive oh no oh another double drain side literally draining out the side so this black rose is uh continues like really difficult how did your what how did the rest of your group how did you get in this hole you got a pretty low score five this is my worst hole yeah oh okay but you did it on the millions when you finally got me yeah I did 100 million finally yeah how the rest of your group do not too well yeah I might I don't think anyone hit the target it's hard for me wow okay so we had I think we had one or we had two maybe three and then we had I think we had one seven and one eight all right Jason celebrates his multi-mall unlike uh new modern pinball machines because this does not have an auto plunger there is no ball safe for this multiball so he wanted to be careful with how he treats this plunge oh no oh there it goes I saw it coming oh soft plunge it's off plunge for the win folks get to play your multiball he tried but was very late on the Fly nailed the green Target banks that gets you pretty much very little that is gonna survive for now all right Whirlpool get some lock letters I get two lock letters nice oh here we go billions time to cash in Jason hold that flipper up nice let it settle nail that left Round I'll post pants should go for the world okay okay because I don't think he's gonna be able to repeat this uh the left he didn't even go for it though so yeah the whirlpool is okay hey okay what works yeah oh he went he went for it uh-oh out of control here we go that he's gonna hit this nice another three million only needs one more there there it is all right billions for his four all right Greg Let's uh let's resuscitate this let's um here we go load the cannon any of those flashing targets and he gets it on the flip oh no it doesn't count it sorry Greg oh instant reload yes please shoot the center saucer maybe he doesn't know to instant reload is it still available yeah there it is so he has reloaded through the locker which is the side ramp when the flap is up I'll try it again and he got it all right shoot the center saucer Greg come on just barely missed it but still got plenty of time for good points here you can hit it from this flipper too it's very early oh just barely missed that time here we go nope nope nope no oh oh Greg is just barely gonna pass the uh 10 stroke Mark right now so it's easy right now he's looking at a five through nine yeah so he is uh yeah he can he can do no worse than nine and no better than five all right Yasmine let's get put together a ball here is this uh plunging out okay this is plunging out of the player and that did not validate Playfield so once again this is a great example folks of why you saw plunge she wasn't even trying and you know drain and she still has a ball if she if this were hers now that will validate it don't do that but I think that really bugs me about this game is how the Center lighting bolts are random yeah well is it you can't time it you can't well I mean it's difficult it's very difficult to time here right so I guess it's not completely right yeah but I I don't even try but yeah I know yeah all right here we go two ball multiball for gas I mean let's see if she can get some ship letters it also will give you some Millions as you shoot the ramps and get those sink ship letters as well as set you up for a possible oh no well that was the end of that and unfortunately because she hit it during multiball that did also not give her credit for the center saucer to start one of the uh Awards so let's see if she's gonna go if she is going for that again but she was late and the outline clings into the victim uh if you're getting those Inland outline areas in this game it's like 90 going out it's going out yeah uh I this this game is really tight so I can understand why the players aren't bothering but the bonus in this game is pretty much non-existent so in my book man go go out tilting yeah you're gonna get you're gonna get 100 000 points in bonus or a chance to save your ball I'll take the chance to save my ball every time dessert kind of it's uh oh okay they sell them at Disneyland a lot that's where they got popular oh okay and outlane claims yet another victim Greg will get a nine yeah Jessica knows all the good uh Tiki Lounge kind of spots all right Wherever She Goes so if you want to drink in a pineapple you know the person to ask in the tiki Tiki tiki Tiki [Music] okay so yeah so you could plus rum here that's that's the uh oh yes that is some bonus pineapple soft serve right there yeah thanks Jessica last night and yesterday for all the commentary you did and as I was thanking Jessica Yasmine has no thanks at all for Black Rose she went for a full plunge though well I you know so it's I'm I hate it it's on her it's on the player you know you have the option to short Plunge so that was brutal um we'll see how we do on X-Men coming up next it looks like the other group is still playing on it as I see the plague still playing X-Men with Jeff teolis and Carrie Wing I believe watching amongst one other person there uh so you play in order on this pin golf format and you just go one machine to the right and you're always just trying to get the target score so this is not a traditional pinball tournament where you're competing against directly against the other players in your group uh each of these players is competing against the whole field both in this tee time that started at uh around 3 30 Las Vegas time as well as the morning tea time groups that teed off earlier in the day there is a scoreboards up at ifpa pinball.com that uh that shows uh the standings for all of those morning groups and Josh Sharpe and crew are also updating the score sheets for this group of tee times as they uh turn them in or as they kind of report back in between games so we'll try to keep our best to do our best to stay on top of these uh live scoring we have uh Carl's Head here so more Carl's Head as we roll over here on top of X-Men and it looks like oh we still have some action going from that last group uh X-Men's Target is also 15 million and it looks like players one two and three of this group have already gotten the the target score player four is only about halfway there so yeah this is definitely an ouch for Greg uh through two holes at plus eight that's not a way you know we don't want that period but you certainly don't want that on the first two holes but that's where Greg stands now at plus eight he has mean it plus five Fred at plus three and Jason is three under par doing very well through two games we'll see if he can keep that pace up in which case he would be into the clubhouse with a substantial lead over uh the the entire field from the morning groups as well as probably a lot of the players here and this one we'll see how they all end up playing player four here is Greg teolis I just said Greg pavarelli but is Jeff teolis and Jeff let's see if he what does he have going right now he does not have a villain lit we need one more Lane completions a 6X bonus multiplier is big if you can play a decent ball um we'll see what he's got he I'm he's only played two Heroes looks like he's already played his Wolverine multiball and he has also started Phoenix so he has not done much with Heroes and um I don't know if he's played his Magneto yet there's no real way to to find that out until we uh you know see you know what lock he's on he needs to light that lock by hitting that flashing green stand-up Target which he somehow missed there I think he was shooting for Cyclops and it hit the post and then went into the Magneto uh little center lane but that does not spot you that flashing green stand-up Target all right that was big points there he finished the Cyclops mode for two million points and another plus three bonus X he's now sitting at plus he's hitting a 9x bonus and now he's also started Xavier uh this is very good let's see if he can get a lock here on the right orbit he was late uh oh on the fly to the Rogue shot that was really well played he now has Rogue started as well that's only ball two locks so he may have already played his Magneto I think so because I believe on Factory I believe your locks two and three come immediately yes so he's having to re-light his Magneto locks he wasn't at he just finished another character with another plus three bonus X he's now at 12 x bonus starting Sentinels the kick out has gotten mean in this game it used to work really well for a dead bounce on my game it decided to change that costing me at least a stroke but uh gray uh Jeff does a great job there of uh chomping through some Heroes it just it goes to show that you know in terms of you know just kind of Baseline points if you can complete hero modes uh you can get well on your way to this target uh that Cyclops was two million um I forget which other one he completed whether that was Xavier or if that was Rogue and uh this X-Men is turned on with hero stacking so for those of you that are familiar with playing X-Men uh most of the time you can only play Heroes one at a time and if you're in a hero mode you cannot start another one this machine you can start hero modes while other ones are running which is a big deal that gives you a lot better chance of getting more Heroes started prior to starting your Magneto multiball which increases drastically the value of your Magneto jackpots as well as the number of Magneto shots that are lit during that multiball this is warm up for those of you just joining us this is the ifpa PIN Masters taking place in Las Vegas Nevada here at flipper Spiel underground RK Club hosted here in Grand line games be sure to check out this location if you're in the Las Vegas area it's a bit north of the strip so you will want to have a rental car or need to take an Uber or a lift pick it up here but come on check it out Adam has done a great job as far as taking care of these pins and curating them and we have a great variety of pins that are very well maintained uh come support this location is on a uh it's on an entrance fee basis so you come and you pay an entrance fee and you can play for as long as you want on that day I believe they also sell various other memberships uh monthly or otherwise probably check that out when you come visit the place I'm not from here but definitely want to support location pinball and certainly including this one so we thank you them for hosting this event here the IFA pin Masters as well as hosting yesterday the North American championship and the Women's World Championship on the mic this is Colin MacAlpine also with the master of Ceremonies here Carl D'Python Anghelo with his streaming rig setup batteries Wireless transmitters cameras these are monitors too yep these are all my monitors all right any he fits this all into uh what kind of car is it it's an HRV now it wasn't fit before okay but this is a lot less than what I've had in the past yeah yeah this is definitely far preferable to the uh the massive amount of mic stands and cables and cameras as from before never again except for endisk yeah I believe are you leaving that stuff there right no no we have to tear it down every everything oh my God put it back up oh my I didn't realize that yeah all right this is still practice yes mean is doing her practice uh the way that the order is determined is similar to a golf rule so if you're playing in a foursome of Golf out of the golf course whoever got the lowest score the lowest number of Strokes aka the best from the prior hole has the honors of starting out first and so if you did not play well in the previous hole it gives you a chance to perhaps look and see how the game is playing from some other people playing it and um which is nice uh it's not so much for a match play benefit because you're not chasing your opponent's score as you are chasing the target the target for X-Men is 15 million points a very doable score but as we've seen thus far from Star Trek and black rose now you the friendly viewer can appreciate just how hard these games are set up and getting these uh what seem like oh man I could do those uh those Target scores easy in one ball it is not as easy it looks with the setup of these particular pins I don't recall if this one has the setup on game restart I think it is most of them seem to be it's not all of them oh well that works too power cycling also works this is also set up on Virtual locks as you'll see in most competitive play where the Magneto lock Mech will not hold balls there so that way it does not Grant an advantage to uh some players over others who get a chance to get extra skill shots and whatnot all right Fred's leading the way he did the best on black rose and he starts out great hey he did not get the skill shot for that because he must have tickled the switch in the right orbit prior to shooting that Rogue shot he did get credit for the lock so he has one lock towards his Magneto multiball he's now hit Wolverine and Wolverine hit back and sent it down the left out lane so what what is your preferred strategy on this in this format because I I it's two predominant ones I see you for 15 million points I was uh I was getting my villain lit and getting Wolverine one shot away starting my Sentinels and then hitting Wolverine to have sent the Wolverine stack with Sentinels yeah and uh that unfortunately did not work very well for me because the scoop as I mentioned before and earlier and during practice it was dead bouncing like a champ and then he Scoops started to kick out off the bottom of the left sling and straight down the middle right right on my Sentinel start and I was not prepared for that and so I lost my Sentinels I lost my stack chance and then I just did it the hard way with the Wolverine multiball followed by I did about three more Heroes and then played Magneto and got it that way yeah he knew that quite fast it is yeah yeah that Fred is here at the at the booth and brings up an excellent point uh the scoop that is on the far left hand side is uh protected by something that is called a Cliffy for those of you unaware where that is it's essentially it's a metal uh protection Rim around the Playfield Hole uh where the scoop is and that prevents uh you getting chipping wood chipping and things like that it also prevents the ball from getting in there A lot of times because it uh it tightens that hole it's not quite as wide anymore and it doesn't just the the just the physical properties of that metal being there it has a tendency to Rattle out and so you're going to see some shots to that scoop that will not go in that would have normally gone in if you didn't have a Cliffy there so Greg is shooting back up the middle um at the Magneto lock I'm not sure why I'm I don't think that was intentional but is there if Carl is there some strategy for shooting the Magneto not that I know of my name to hit the block yeah maybe white lost yeah sure sure so he's also unintentionally getting progress um towards now will he start his Magneto multiball with enough shots to that is that just it says three hits apparently oh my okay I don't like it though because he's got no value in magnitude oh yeah yeah that's that's a terrible decision yeah he'll get like 50 000 a hit right exactly and with this with the hero stacking on him you can bring in oh yeah so he'll have he has one now he started storm and quickly drained out a storm but yeah that's an interesting kind of uh um similar you know shot making strategies what we saw in Black Rose of going up the middle that long shot from an early shot from the right flipper uh doing the same here so another strategy you can use but um you may not see as much here in Ping golf because of the nature of always you're wanting to get it done as few balls as possible is you can hit the uh hellfire club targets and the Brotherhood targets that are on the right left and right side of the Playfield and hitting those enough times will qualify those multi-balls which can easily be worth 15 million on their own that left sling was worth a right outline unfortunately for Yasmine [Music] all right in our Target score for this game is 15 million okay he started the Professor X mode you can see that flashing in the circle with the X in the middle it shows which Heroes you started if they're flashing you started them if they're solid you've completed them and Fred now has Professor X but you know this is smart he does not necessarily need to normally you would have to actually play Professor X and he just luckily got the right job right so Professor X gives you a silhouette of one of like 12 characters I think however many are here yeah yeah it's a bunch I mean but includes like the targets right right it's not just the major shots right and now another two million there for completing Rogue so he completed Professor X and completed Rogue he's now six million points he's got six x bonus at least which uh that's not inconsequential given the target score let's see what he chooses to do next he gets uh villain lit so he can go and play uh some Sentinels or Sabertooth instead he has his lock lift from Magneto he's trying for Wolverine all right Wolverine is perfect yeah this is the stack just to survive this uh kick out and Wolverine is modified with the captive ball mod so you're no longer hitting the giant Wolverine plastic it's a smaller Target it also opens up the Beast Lane and the lane to uh Xavier nice dead bounce out of the scoop I hope that continues for the rest of these players and not like what it did to me it's much easier to handle with that scoop doing a dead bounce instead of a dead drain ball save is off and he's already got his at a ball because normally Wolverine is a two ball multivomb and he has three on the table uh he's playing very well here he already has up to 10 million points now he's at 11 that'll be close to 12 12 8. he's got Sentinels going at the same time this is excellent points he's well on his way to hitting that Target few more shots here 14-8-15 boom done walk off enjoy your target score Fred but he's focused he's disappointed because he drained but he does not need to be disappointed because it's pin golf so that's uh that's why that's such a powerful strategy yes get Sentinels running start your Wolverine the points explode in my mind it's the only way to go on this setup yeah the most efficient path I should say and pin golf is all about efficiency every ball matters unlike most traditional pinball games where it's only your final score after all three balls or all five for EMS in this case every ball counts so Jason looks like he's going for uh Hellfire no he's going for the scoop I think okay yeah the back door from the scoop was not working yeah you know usually a lot of x-mens that will fall into the scoop this one does not uh if you're looking to get inlanes I I mean the scoop will spot one but given how rejecty rejectable rejectful whatever how often that scoop rejects I don't know if I'd go for that scoop I'd probably shoot for Xavier or I'd shoot for Iceman yep I agree with you they're both uh we talk about it Xavier is an easier shot on this one with the uh modified Wolverine okay so still going for that scoop he is he is fixated on that scoop and see there it is that rejected because of that Cliffy I would definitely do Xavier Iceman and get your lanes that way wolvie is ready he wants to survive and he's not going to so he ends ball two about 1.5 million not really I mean he's ready for Wolverine which is good uh I think he maybe just needs one more Lane uh for his villain no oh yeah yeah um yeah the lanes I don't recall if Lanes carry anyway we'll see if he keeps at the scoop Lane strategy or if he uh changes course and goes for Iceman ramps or Xavier shots so Greg is stepping up he's going back to his uh his black Road strategy here of going up the middle and uh but he's gonna do this with only one hero if he does it one more time um he'll get 50 000 he'll bring in a 50 000 Point ax which is a really tiny ax he's also solid on that channel you know how many times he hit that shot I know out missing I know that's a really really good uh accuracy from Greg but unfortunately it's just it's not I mean let's see he starts at 2.6 let's see where he ends this yeah it won't be it won't be much couple million at most so in normally in Magneto well you have all the shots lit so you're thinking oh this is awesome I'm in a I'm in a multiball points Bonanza but it lies it lies because all those flashing shots are only giving you 50 000 points and you get more from that I'm like gosh a pop-up around this game and ball saves over and it's multiballs over he got 550 000 points from all that work to get to Magneto multiball that's why Carl and I were sitting here telling you not to do that friendly viewer we're also joined here in the booth hello Raymond Davidson what's up I'm in the uh Star Wars Log Jam so got some spare time here that was familiar from the previous round yeah yeah I just learned recently how X-Men works I was always wondering why my magnetos were uh not getting me any points but now I know basically uh the villain or the Heroes you have played before going into Magneto are worth um the the big points like 200k 400k 600k 800k depending on how many you have um but the game doesn't tell you that anywhere so right everything's flashing um but you want to aim for the ones that correspond to the the ones you've already played and you don't have to complete the heroes you just have the light just for the startup value yeah Magneto now as uh as we saw from Fred in this in this point setup of only needed 15.96 uh you only need 50 million points completing Heroes is actually really good value uh Fred completed two here uh two Heroes for you know two million three million a pop plus some big bonus X you get plus three x bonus bonus X when you complete it here oh is that what causes that because I've seen that display on the animation and I'm like plus three bonus X sweet but what why oh okay completing a hero wow okay yeah I um I feel like you could just give 15 million on a good Wolverine but I guess it has to be a you know a good Wolverine you can the the thing that's neutered on this one is because the ball save is so short okay so typically you won't see those on on Wolverine but what you want to do is make sure your black bird is lit right yeah yeah but you're you're at a ball safe is also pretty short but at least then you get in a three ball play you can then afford to you know cradle up and do do damage with one flipper with cradle two on the other and when you drain that one you still in play so that was Yasmine with finishing with uh about four and a half so and Jason is uh exploring the depths of invalid Playfield now we're validated so yeah that pump bumper Nest run right there for uh this uh Joe Cube It's like 100k I think that scored nearly as much as Greg did on his Magneto all right Jason when we last saw him was going for the scoop and then the we learned the villain the inlings do not carry so he is back to nothing lit and let's see if he goes back to the scoop to try to spot his inlanes or if he does something which I think is a little bit safer given the setup of going for Iceman and Xavier that would be sweet as if you could do that like shots the outer one and have it go in the inner one oh that would be sweet um you probably you probably can Chats on this if you wanted to um I wouldn't recommend is this a pro or a premium a pro it's a pro okay so the Iceman gives you credit for an inline okay the premium and Le because of the moving Iceman ramp will will skip the inlanes all right someone like mousing around other games like that from uh the system earlier pinball machines that would skip the inlands so we're in Wolverine multiball the ball save is already gone he did not bring in a villain into this I don't believe no so so when Wolverine says go left are the only shots available the orbit and the two side shots yes correct or at Xavier count yeah but you can also go right it's just you won't get as many points for it right okay so the Fast Flashing ones are the ones that give you more points and more progress towards the getting to the next phase of Wolverine multiball the not so fast ones are less points and less price 11 more for Wolverine wow yeah how much is your first Wolverine four four hits and then it goes to 11 yeah yeah it goes to 12. 12. yeah wow so unfortunately that Wolverine multiball he only got 175 000 on it this game is kind of scary man you I feel like you either hole in one it or you just get in jail and like have nothing available to you and you panicking all right so Greg let's see if I think he may be close to either his health yes okay help our club's available for the scoop Nails it he can take a Hellfire multiball right here normally in match play you'd actually maybe want to take a normal villain and save Hellfire for later but in pin golf where every ball matters you want to take your Hellfire multiball right now he is letting balls go okay here we go now we're now we're playing he has three balls in play the ball saves off is this Wolverine uh actual Wolverine or is it a ball it is a ball it's been modified into a ball okay for the the Striking him all right that will stick around for another shot unfortunately all his shots are on the right so he's gonna need to do some type of move here to cradle separate or do an up and under that wasn't under the wrong that way yeah that was an Up and Under The Flipper he backhanded wow nail storm for another 375. decent value there is there any way to exploit points in this mode or is it pretty much everything's a jackpot whatever the flashing ones are flashing lights yeah uh so that was only yeah middling To Mediocre um unfortunately for Greg going back to Magneto so that may be where you want to not choose that multiball because if you choose a different villain but you have Brotherhood qualified you just need a single shot to Brotherhood to re-qualify your villains correct yeah um I would do that if I had Wolverine ready and now whoa how did that slip out of there is there did they remove like the right lane guy like it looked like it it went like that like no no no no no no no okay it was when it happened so fast yeah he got John borged yep so this group uh once again it's another kind of the same as a last games where we had one player same as Star Trek we had one player do well and then the other three struggle uh different players uh each time although actually I think Fred was Fred the one who did well in Black Rose yes yeah so Fred is doing well two holes in a row so pars4 in all these games is a reminder for everyone that's why we have these scores at the the 20 plus 10 over 5 plus one over par all right Yasmine she's got four Heroes at this point I would be prioritizing those Magneto locks oh it might be up on Star Wars finally good luck right good luck but Mike up May the plunge be with you yeah just because the noise yeah exactly all right funky Fred coming in and uh what Yasmine has a stuffed ball I guess I'm guessing because she's holding a flipper to defeat the auto uh the ball search I wonder if it's right in here like at Texas oh is that the same spot I don't know I can't really see it where the Rogue shot is it's Corner over there yeah so there's what it is and then look what Carl's talking about is there's in the Rogue shot at the very back of it starts a metal c not a metal plastic ceiling that covers the Rogue shot back behind there and that ball can get stuck in underneath that plastic ceiling because it's just enough for a ball to get underneath it right before that shot because now she has ice man going too so strong what I want to know is where's his magnetic uh stick you know it's a little grabber see if he pushes it back I'm assuming it was on the left flipper if not I'll walk over there and do it thank you for the bits pinball nerds podcast appreciate it thank you for those tuning in here to the ifpa pin Masters in Las Vegas Nevada this is uh part of Jay Stern Pro Circle they're moving it and uh they care hosted by Grand line Games The Flipper Spiel underground arcade Club here in Northern Las Vegas uh recent moved from last year's location so it's not near the airport anymore so we don't have the the rattling and shaking of airplanes going overhead we're near the other airport I saw one come over really low last night when you guys were doing stream you could hear an alternate wow oh what's what was that we're in storm but we're we were in a uh because of the uh ball trough because of how Josh was oh yeah they probably had multiple walls okay so now we're in storm I would okay I think she's probably going for Magneto lock she's got a she has got a she's got the stack here oh and there's another one all but one wow all but Wolverine she hasn't started Wolverine yeah that's the last one yeah so if she can prioritize these Magneto locks up that'll give her one was that the last one yes it was yes okay this now this is gonna be now notice the scoring difference between Greg's Magneto multiball and what yasmine's gonna have here every shot of hers 1.1 1.1 and all of them except for Wolverine are giving her that and then she has to eventually they they unlight and then you shoot Magneto and he then all of them are recharge and re-lit again her ball save is now off she still has three balls in play the adder ball is lit oh and the one came back actually so she must have gotten the Atta ball she must have all right the light is on I think she's probably she's there she's done yeah that was that was a clinical very nice performance on Magneto especially once again for those of you at home Get Your Heroes started before Magneto multiball yep For the Love of All Things good and mutant I didn't even do a Magneto I just did Heroes it was straight up hero Chase yeah yeah you got some good value just from your hero completion you got the uh the fortunate uh Xavier mode you got the it happened you hit the road and you're like hey there's the characters completed all right that was a three and then accidentally started Wolverine but okay all right excellent job yes I mean nice for her to have a car score under par score so that way uh she can kind of get change her trajectory from the first two Jason here she he has a villain uh lit at the scoop I don't believe he has Hellfire Brotherhood ready yet oh and he did not it gave him credit for the skill shot but it rejected in terms of his lock for Magneto now it's lit come on X-Men what's left uh Hellfire just oh lit lit up so no man he did not get much of a chance in that ball that was rough so he's still sitting under four million points he has one ball to play the good news is he has a multiball ready as we've seen from others though these multiballs are not necessarily all that valuable because the ball saves are so short and the slings are so tight and the outlanes are so wide yeah those brotherhoods are coming up a mill two mil and that's it so not to pay off that you're hoping for because you can stack Heroes I really think that's the way to go oh yeah just just light them up yeah because I mean that Magneto multiball is it's the longest uh ball save you have you start out with I think three or four because the starting point I think it's four depending on how you start it if you do it the way that Greg did which wasn't a good way uh you only show me three and you can still out of all his wolvey is ready oh he was doing the up the center wasn't it okay yeah yeah he was doing the epicenter yeah but he only had one here at the time all right so Wolverine he's got eight million going into this the ball save is now over he'll get that back on grace period I believe yes here it comes back he does not have his ball save lit yet at the scoop you know uh he's you hit it anyway because it spots one more Lane there it is there it is and he gets the back door in nope Blackboard one more completion and it's gone but here so this do not do not despair complete Heroes he if he just completes here oh so everybody because this is pin golf it's everybody's fixated because the normal strategy in pinball and high scoring and match play is you've got to go to the scoop gotta get those villains but the way this thing is with a 15 million Target telling you it's here and hero stacking yeah because normally you can't stack Heroes so you're locked into that okay I can only play storm right now or I can only play Cyclops but it's like okay if you don't like the storm shot start Iceman you can hit anything Phoenix they're gonna start yeah and then if you've got a few of them going and you happen to start a multiball whether it be Wolverine or you know even Brotherhood rack up some points all right Jason get hydrated and uh let's uh let's see let's at least knock this five out just did the two plunges of Shame and he is ready to step up and play thankfully he did not do the uh the super plunge of Shame has anyone ever done that before I don't know no I sure haven't I walked up I could swear I saw his light flash and I thought oh well all right come on Jason there we go does he have one of those I think he does negative he does not nope so there's a Sentinels everyone's lit come on scoop be nice mine passed out fine are we gonna try and catch oh no bad idea that's fine that's fine that's better than draining three ball one more lock I'll start his Magneto okay survive the scoop good has he done uh Wolverine yet yes yes oh he did do Wolverine already right I was thinking yeah let's stack on Wolverine that's right now can you start Magneto with Sentinels running I mean he doesn't have he doesn't have many Heroes but he's got Sentinels going and the Sentinels alone is worth 10 million that's it all right all right now he's got to remember he's got two dangers so don't be nudging pins and needles all right let's see Witcher his Heroes he's got Wolverine for good points and he has Rogue and cyclops are his are his three for good points that are decent but he's also getting in the background Sentinel so essentially at this yeah don't even worry about your Heroes and which ones are litter now just hit shots just shoot everything yep and the Sentinels timer is ridiculously long correct and he just got ad time oh no this is bad is that is that that was the atom all from the slingshot he's still in Magneto multiball with two balls in play maybe even three needed that maybe just two balls to play but that one's coming back okay now you will not get any more back still alive still shooting shots just two he's just two in play okay Cyclops is over but who cares he gets another 700 000 there we're gonna see close to 15 he's at 13. so Sentinels are still going in the background okay that recharge the heroes to get the bigger points from the ones that are still out there once again I would just Chase anything and get sentence credit Wolverine there you go train one be out of that multiball all right add more time to Sentinels it'll be like a timer of 70 seconds when he gets out here he's already again nice look at that 102 seconds would you like some more time to work on Sentinels wait we can add time all right here comes Greg foreign two million points to hit the 15 marker Angel skill shot interesting it's going to backhand that scoop that Cliffy on there sure does make it tall he's a little late there and that's that's trouble and he could have saved that but unfortunately he did not nudge it enough all right guys we'll see you next game all right see you Fred good luck all right so unfortunately for Greg that I think there's a difference yeah he's got 11 yeah so seven like a Greg so that's gonna put him in 11 over par um Greg really needs to turn things around quickly so to not get too far outside the cut line just three games in to this ifpa pin Masters all right in the chat we have Mr Brian Shepard thanks for joining us Brian sorry I couldn't join us this year as those of you are already interfacing here with him in the chat you know that Brian does a lot of the data and it work for the ifpa website so he is you know making these systems all possible that can calculate your Whoppers and rank you and custom rankings and state rankings and provincial rankings and women's rankings and youth rankings so thank you to Brian Shepard all right we are moving on to the fourth game of this nine holes of pin golf we've already played Star Trek they've played Black Rose they just finished X-Men and now they will be moving to a very tilty attack from Mars This is an attack from Mars remake not the original and we are cleaning off the glass getting it nice and shiny and sparkly so this is more than just tilty the uh all the shots are early oh I mean completely they're yeah I mean compared to every other attack I've played even other remakes even other remakes yeah I I this yeah this one was particularly early I I think maybe I've started to get used to it now but the thing that I found most frustrating this was just how tilty it was I I actually would prefer them if they wanted to make it harder they could have taken off the in-lane outline post rubbers um but I just it's so so tilty um like all the other games there's no ball save so you can do the super skill shot and at your own risk um which I actually did on my last game because I just I figured I wanted that visor down and uh you know that way and it did help me later on in closing out and getting my my last uh couple hundred million towards my uh towards my target you're lucky it was going around if I'm not on two of my plunges it did not go around it came it got hung up in the right orbit and came out the right right and yeah exactly yeah it's plunging up to here and rattling and then coming down yep that was uh that was frustrating of itself another notable thing about this attack from Mars The Stroke of Luck is set to the fixed 50 million whoa what happened to our exposure there wow okay with the bright lights it's on it's on auto so uh yeah so Stroke of Luck does not give you the nor the the tournament ROM where you can get to turn you know uh actual future awards that are consistent that are consistent based on your number of stroke of logs right um so it's you know it's just how they set it up so it's just it's 50 million a pop if you fall into the front side or shoot into the front side of that scoop going to the back side of the scoop does not give you the Stroke of Luck award but it will give you the uh Martian multiball uh starting sequence if you fall into the back of it haven't seen a whole lot of Martian uh multiball or and during any of the games the other thing that's notable because this is on five ball play uh unintended I believe and we just kind of discovered it as we were going when you set your game to five ball it automatically turns your main multiball locks too hard so in other words you will have to shoot a ramp shot lock ramp shot for every single lock as opposed to the factory settings where you shoot one light lock ramp shot and then all three of your locks are lit this is practice and warm-up if you're confused as to why they're doing what they're doing or draining when they're draining each player gets 30 seconds of warm-up before they begin their match at chasing down the target score the target score for Attack From Mars is 1.5 billion which in advance scheme of things from attack from ours isn't that much but because of the Tilt setting and because of the unfamiliarity of these flippers and the way the shots are shooting it's uh harder than it looks scoop kick out is a fairly friendly dead bounce not to a cradle but at least to uh you know you can get it over there and get it on the right I was also finding success with doing a drop catch if I wanted to keep it on the left flipper yeah all right so this is uh still practice the Greg has played he got the worst score in the previous hole so he will be playing last in there for his practicing last thank you those of you posting the scores and goals and standings once again it's 1.5 billion points to get the uh to get the target score on this thank you to also to our sponsors that uh rotate up here on the stream so right now it's planetary pinball Supply and let's see how each of these players play it uh Carl when you played it to get to 1.5 billion which route did you go uh annihilation me too because I could not find the lock shot I tried it several times and gave up yeah and you know in the normal uh AFM circumstances even with hard locks I would still be going for the lock shot but the other thing that actually makes this one difficult is the traditional way of playing it once you shoot the lock it feeds down to your left flipper and on most attack from Mars you can do what's I like to call a ski jump by holding up your left flipper and bumping it over to your right flipper and that is not working very well on this especially given the tight tilt you cannot really give it a lot of upward nudge without risking a danger and then danger danger tilt because there's no debounce and so I abandoned that and I cashed in a uh I cashed in a 500 million hurry up I decided not to go for the full 1 billion because I I was missing all three Ranch shots still on my right ramp and I didn't even need to start my Annihilation because I did the 500 million hurry up and I did a saucer and that was all I needed that was it huh yeah I lost my 500 million hurry up I had one shot left on the right ramp and for the billion and drained down painful hmm that's a very satisfying way to pull that off uh pull off the one billion hurry up you do that by completing all all of the three inserts on each of the four main uh the the four ramp and orbit shots they're big orange and yellow circles and that will also instantly start your Total Nuclear Annihilation unfortunately Fred's ball one has been annihilated only 55 million points so not how he wanted to begin his game and uh let's see uh so we've had one tilt uh chat you know let's let's do an over what's the over under on number of tilts this game I'm gonna go with eight I think that's low hey Carl takes us hello yeah given given the chance of each player playing Five balls or a total of 20 and how tilty this thing is probably probably true I mean on the longer balls they won't but since mostly they're shorter balls I'm saying yeah that's specifically why I'm saying it's gonna be more all right okay so that dead balance is not that has gotten less friendly because that dead bounce really fast into that right flipper area and then didn't really give you as being a chance to control her shot so she was out of control and the slings decided to end her ball to the right outline this format has each player playing a set of nine holes or nine different pinball machines with a Target score and you play the same nine holes two different days this is day one of qualifying and the cumulative golf score relative to par is what will determine whether you make the cut there is both an a division as well as a B division uh finals in this particular tournament and uh here we go Jason looks like he is going for the uh Total Nuclear Annihilation Strat yep he's now one shot away from completing his right orbit and also starting the hurry up associated with that shot the feature that most players will try to use that Carl and I were referring to before is actually getting ready oh yep all right too I know it didn't that did not seem like it was enough I mean I gave what I thought was a really small move and I went straight to tilt earlier so uh yeah I'm thinking 12. so but the good news is he still because he made some shots there he still has you know 214 so he's on his way right he's got some progress um you know if you can you know this format given the target score you know leads you to the point where you really do have to consider maybe cashing in your hurry up earlier than the one billion yeah level yeah I agree with you there all right Greg let the Tilt Bob settle for a little bit we'll see if it's enough hopefully the plunger gets around it did he claims his skill shot for some paltry points and some bonus X okay pointer Point that's right and let's see what he tries he was going for the lock and he break the lock to the number three I actually think that was a bit of an unnecessary tilt too yeah I don't think he needed to yeah so we're back to uh waiting again for the Tilt knob to settle once again PSA installed those earplugs into your tilt Bob holder so that's 25 here yeah they settled earlier this game this this AFM would probably play 10 times faster if we had an ear plug installed in that till Bob thanks to the follow arcade Hollywood uh for those of you just tuning in or you know if you've not tuned in before uh please support the IE pinball um and uh through bits or you can also subscribe you can follow if you have an Amazon Prime membership you can also do a Prime subscription and that will uh cost you no money yet it will support the streamer here Carl D'Python Anghelo who runs IE pinball and here we go Fred's on his way he's uh looking like he's trying to shoot ramps and orbits and there's a nice slow trickler orbit that's not going to go all the way around trouble nice patch very nice he's building his Atomic blaster and let's see how he handles this he's going to go for the dead bounce but man okay yeah that is no longer a controllable feat anymore you have to I would say you people should pivot and they should do a drop catch now that was better yeah that's the one that you want to see where it rolls up the in Lane a little bit all right here we go okay I'd really like to get at least two and yeah he's set up really nicely I would yeah the two orbits and then maybe cash out yeah yes there it is oh he goes dead bounce here we go it is the festival okay here we didn't give credit oh no no no no no stay up stay up stay up all right left ramp I don't know where he was shooting there this is trouble oh don't nudge it oh he didn't get a danger I don't know how okay here we go oh no no no no it's left over it's leftover movement still on the Tilt bomb hop it over oh we didn't hop it over oh no he's gonna lose the 300 million the diverter for the locker oh no he's been opening up you have noticed that right oh yeah that was twice it twice now okay there's still time there's still time drop catch this and shoot the right orbit plenty of time nail it oh really late oh man he didn't make an adjustment at all there okay stop it pop it ski jump it okay the diverter is not opening or that was yeah there we go okay now he's up to 500 million take the center take the center oh yeah never mind take the billion oh no come on come on Fred hit the ramp oh no Fred hit the ramp please Fred here we go plenty of time yay one billion and with all the other shots he was making I'm guessing he's already there but he's yep he's got 1.8 yeah Fred tried it around twice it locked the balls yeah it was working fine but now it is the first one all right so that was an excellent way to uh end that ball for Fred to be able to walk off on Total Nuclear Annihilation we were getting all nervous was that a double danger by any chance yeah double danger oh okay but it was like residual oh like a residual swing because you didn't get a single Danger on the big move right so I thought you were gonna go straight to tilt on I did too your lock diverter wasn't opening up correct correct you have to go all the way around to collect a lot I just told Adam about it I just thought that might be hard setting no no that is not that's never enough okay good she's still alive she does not have much progress towards anything so she just needs to start shooting those ramps and orbits or accidentally knocked the door down in there oh look at that yep and it should be it should have been a light lock wait look at that where did that it jumped yeah okay so it was coming down this return Lane right here and it actually jumped to the shooter Lane see that and that should be a see it's automatically yeah it's giving it's awarding the lock it's awarding right and giving them that's how good you want it to stop right yeah okay oh I wish Jazz would have been able to have that work the right way that's that's really tough I honestly thought that was the hard settings I was like oh wow you got to hit the ramp just to lock a ball yeah I mean the hard settings or you have to you do have to shoot a ram before everything but the diverter should be opening and then going to the buck correct yeah oh that was tense that was tense I thought you would I thought when you get to 500 I figured you'd cash it in oh no but then but at that point at that point you only had one ramp shot left so then it's like okay yeah let's just just take that at one point I looked up and I was at 167 mil counting down I was like I still got plenty of time you did that that timer is deceptively long once you get to the 300 million level right once you get your second one go on that 100 will go out pretty quick but get your second one get to three I just was having a really tough time hitting that right orbit yes really tight what's going on over there oh man there's one time we were like okay now he's definitely gonna get it and you missed it even worse this is a remake as I'm sure most people know Chicago Coin um plays a little bit different than the classic Bally version we're in the afternoon round of the pin Masters I believe it was 36 this afternoon 36 this morning at 10. Colin I'm assuming you played this morning how'd you uh how'd you shoot I played uh I played pretty well I that my worst hole was a six and I had one hole in one I had a couple twos so I finished with a 31. so five under outstanding that must be right up near the top it was for it was for the morning session yeah okay yeah we'll see how the we'll see how this afternoon session shapes up and plus we still have a whole another day of qualifying for the second the second round of nine that plays out tomorrow but yeah that was very happy with that and it's the first time for me playing in this event with this style of pin golf last year okay and one thing I noticed after round one is like you know what I just need to eliminate the seven pluses you know about consistency just don't have those ones and you know every once in a while yeah you'll you'll blow it up and you'll get like a nice low hole in one or a nice low number oh look at me I started my first hole four over par yeah when this is done I will now be one under par yep thankfully um but yeah you don't want to ride the rollercoaster sir you just wanna you know get a stroke or two underneath par and those occasional hole in ones those feel good and like you said don't let anything blow up and come back and and bite you nice you got the the guy standing there at the arms cross their album cover for that's right that's right pin golf flipper Spiel Raw 2019. the underground all right so I don't think they're gonna make any adjustments for Jasmine by any I don't think she's going to get a ball I think no I don't think so either because she was still playing yeah and actually the way it was playing it was actually beneficial as opposed to detriment though I mean it kicked to the the uh the shooter Lane but you know that's that's pinball yeah but uh you're going for annihilation yeah so Jason they have the option all the players that are playing they have the option to either scrap their game start over with it repaired or continue with the progress they've made so far Jason just came over to notify us let us know that he likes where he's at so is this his board and you're obviously gonna take your score I'm gonna go ahead and take mine and uh looks like jazz and Greg will go ahead and wait for a new game sorry to you those of you at home with the extra innings on attack from Mars oh no our least favorite oh wow the forehead glare that's right here we are in all our Glory yep which is where were we at again Colin we are at flippersfield underground in Las Vegas Nevada also called Grand line games yeah look at all these great retro ton of titles console games all along this wall that you can't see in there Shinobi yep yep love that game yeah so if you were in the Vegas area or visiting Vegas you know if you have a rental car or get a quick uh Uber or lift up here uh come check it out it's a uh and you know spend a few hours here so you'll you pay an entry fee and then all the games are on free play yep and enjoy a fine uh collection here so you won't there are a lot of other pins here that you aren't seeing on the stream because we've selected nine uh for this pin golf style but in addition to what you're going to be seeing there's also a Four Queens em there's a barakora solid state there's a paragon there is a we have all the oh there's an Iron Man downstairs there's a Stern stars and another em called time zone a lot of fun here comes Jason as you can see he's ready to go on his right orbit his left knee's oh Jay that is a traditional thing that you know it's it it's it part of the original afms as well as these remakes where when if you hit a partial ramp on that lock ramp and it comes back down there is a post right here with a rubber on it and it catches that post and always sends it in trouble over in this area and you hope and pray that it doesn't go out lane I tilted out a ball once because I knew it was going to do that and I gave it before I gave it a tiny little you know nudge up top hoping they would maybe come hard to the Martian targets yeah but instead it all it did was got my tilt Bob swinging and then I gave it another nudge not very hard in my opinion when it finally hit the right out lane post and it went danger ninja tilt yeah so at this point I believe everyone plunges until Jason Plays ball three if that's the case he needs to and so did Yasmine to choose that she's going to replay she's going to replay a new game okay and so is Greg so and you know that's I mean how what how far was Jay I didn't well here's what he had he was on his last shot of his right orbit okay he needed one more on his right ramp okay he needed two more on his left ramp and he needed all three on his left orbit all right so I can understand his his yeah his uh reasoning there because yeah he's he had found the shots and he'd made some progress toward getting those hurry ups and progress towards Total Nuclear Annihilation so that makes sense if he didn't if he didn't have that you know any of these players I would I would definitely just take the take the replay so one thing I'll go through because I've had people tell me before on stream like you guys talk about the games you know about the machines you know real quick this is obviously a very uh well-known and well distributed game but um all you really have to do is you've got this door to go down right here and you've got these ships to destroy not the gate down hit some shots up in here way up there as it goes away um and after a while the drop Target in the back will open up you'll be able to go through the hole and um then we will uh that'll destroy the ship so one of the uh one of the scoring strategies is destroy ships very dangerous ball comes back at you especially on the door I just like to open up the door by accident pretty much or I like to do it on super skill shot but that one there's no ball safe so are they working on it trying to yeah yeah exactly otherwise go ahead well yeah I was gonna say yeah that's a that's a it's a pretty basic game but it's really popular because it's simple to understand it's got some good humor to it yep uh in terms of the shots you make when it you know it shows you what the dmd's doing and you know it's just a it's a Timeless theme did you guys see I had my cow and I I had I almost went for the button I you know so when you go up a ramp right you get both cows on both sides I know I always hit it I don't know why Always it's like it's like going for for does it actually make the video mode easier they look they look bigger they look bigger but they're not really are they it's all about the mother cow come on I know I know yeah it's fantastic now is that and it only it only you only have to hit that the launch button just when when you have the cow come up in the deal whatever it's doing yeah whatever it's doing on the display if it's increasing him inside I do that once on both ramps correct exactly yeah and then your video mode will be cows instead of yeah so what they're uh Adam's working on the diverter because when you hit the lock shot uh it's supposed to grab it and go in the hole and it wasn't doing that unbeknownst to me I didn't even care and that would be fine I think I think they would actually play on but the fact that it's awarding a light lock also at the same time is the issue so it's awarding a light lock and a lock is that what you're saying oh so it's doubling lock and lighting the next law right yeah it's a hard shot yeah it's a hard shot on this one I'm okay with that should hopefully be a quick fix he's testing it right now I think and then after this guys we'll be going to ABRA dabra Cadabra gonna reach out and play you so that's coming up the only em on the course yeah remaining remaining the OEM remaining is we had four queens and we had a time zone you had all three no time zone wasn't ever part of this no not part of the course no it was in yesterday they were all candidates yesterday yes yeah that's part of what uh Nationals does time zones would be a lot of fun to watch I think that's fun game to stream reminds me yeah I think time zone is a better game than Four Queens amen for sure amen time zone always reminds me of uh Lions pinball and beautiful lions Colorado can I have one there Kevin and Carol Carroll running a crate shop and I just remember playing seems like a thousand times Adam left golf on that game and he just loves it so shout out to you Adam Sun's here boy's here where's Dad escher's plan did dad play this morning no no I haven't seen him I think yesterday they let him fly by himself yeah a little chill Junior later yeah you win a world championship you get to fly by yourself you own an ice cream truck yeah I was gonna say he came in his ice cream truck yeah good all right so how does it look it's still looking like they're working hey can we uh can we bring up the standings and show that let's see can we we've got the targets um sure it'll be messy I don't care Let's uh get rid of this uh bracket over here ignore this that's yesterday's data that's yesterday's bracket from the North American Championship that was won by Zach sharp oh look at this now the scores are intermixed between um exactly well look at this our our booth uh wow speakers both at -5 Adam Becker the man working on the game right now also at minus five carry Wing is just uh well she had a rough out on one of those games there I think I'm yeah so hole number eight would be AFM over here are you sure yeah no yeah I'm not sure she's already played it so Kerry played AFM earlier you're right that is because I need a two on there sure yeah so she's sitting at four under uh wow she had she started off her day with two two one oh man yeah she was just crushing she's just taking that momentum from winning the Women's World Championship and parlaying that into two holes and ones that's right wow X-Men no no okay not surprising yeah so that was on black rose and then X-Men so yeah Carrie congratulations to her for winning a two on Abracadabra the Women's World Championship she triumphed over Maureen Bart Hendrickson from Seattle and uh she won herself a brand new Stern Pinball Machine for winning that so she really know what she's picking or what they're offering I do not know I think they're out of I think they're finally out of WWE's um I I you know it'll be a pro version um I would uh she'll take a game too knowing her yeah she's got quite a collection at her house already she does and she hosts she has a good question there she hosts and runs tournaments Carrie Wing is currently our only female circuit champion uh correct sure there's plenty more to come but I was there I think you were there I was there too yep she did Oklahoma great performance there at Cactus Jacks in Oklahoma City it was about two years ago or three years ago two or three yeah there was three to be me and then she'd be Donovan that was that all right yep still the same tight till [Laughter] let's see if that looks better at all it knows what it's supposed to do why is he testing the tilt oh it's tilty oh he's getting setting up the players exactly he's writing down the score so I'm gonna have to go over there to find out where people stand oh yeah I didn't think to take a picture so he's putting them on like balls two and three and stuff yeah interesting okay what about Jason did he just oh one ball and then say okay I'm ready to go to the next game I wonder what happened oh yeah okay normally you would okay so this is a little bit okay so this is difficult so um they are I guess they're they're having to keep their scores and their progress they don't get to keep progress though no um so this is different than what happened in the first round where then when they had to swap out Four Queens for Game of Thrones they we were my group was the first group to play Game of Thrones they had not set it to five ball play um I got a two and so I was already in I had my two but they're uh other players that there's another player had a three but their other two players because they suddenly got to ball four but then there was nothing there because the game's over uh the ruling from the TD staff was to have those two players replay their whole game because because uh you know TD discretion I don't know the right call there that was tough on Greg uh because it was the tournament director's fault you know as far as not setting up the game to five balls right and trying to recreate the game State and let me guess they have had terrible games up to that one of them had a terrible game and ended up cashing probably into a two ah wow it should be like okay you do the best you can but you can't do better than a three yeah I mean it's it's a it's it's a difficult situation to deal with and they made the call and stuck with it um so yeah all right so Greg they are on ball I don't know we don't even know should we have Adam explain another official ball too so they they were on ball three though right yeah that's fine you got a two but Greg had not played his ball too right that's what he just played now but there so this is actually ball three not ball two that's right that makes sense this is ball three now because this is ball two yes so that doesn't make sense so why was Greg playing that ball then I'm confused well he played ball too oh so he hadn't played right he hadn't played her again so is Adam gonna tilt out or this isn't no yeah he said player one was me so this is ball three yes okay yeah this is ball three correct great play his second ball yeah bingo bingo yep yep everybody we were just confused because it says ball two and we're like going okay yeah yeah yeah yeah all right so they'll be stopping after ball four on this game this is actually ball three and they'll be adding it to their prior scores which I did you happen to get those Carl no you have those on your phone the scores oh that's a tough tilt that's uh what did she do five or six we lost count didn't we okay so Fred is already in the in the clubhouse uh player two had 297 million all right player three at two seven seven got it and player four E3 got him here so we can follow along so once again as we as as Carl and I were discussing earlier and Fred you can chime in on this too you know these games when you step when you first walked in and saw these Target scores you probably went whoa no problem this is gonna be easy and then the games decided to have a say in it well as you know they took the points from yesterday's play in order to determine these values and I think that's brilliant because you know you had some strong play Yesterday those are fair numbers and they're proving to be challenging I mean if you saw yeah I think we only had 12 people above par from this and that wasn't even this morning that was some other players today so maybe like seven or eight players from the entire morning round score below par so that tells you that your your marks are right on point all right so Jason is building off of uh 277 million with no progress though so he loses that so it's back to the well as far as shooting orbits and shooting ramps everybody's a little scared of that kick out especially I heard you talking about before I went over there about you talked about one went straight down and I was like or maybe that was X-Men that was actually okay that was X-Men it did that to me when I saw that when I had my Sentinels started with my wolvey one away and did that to me no that but this kick out has also is getting a little bit inconsistent where it's still dead bounces yep but it doesn't dead bounce and go up the in Lane it bounces off the bottom of that and comes rapidly back at that photo where you've got to do a defensive move so yeah it's it's different and so I'm thinking the the news the new way to handle it now just do a drop catch and that's what both Greg and uh Jason were doing good very good okay now he's setting up real well if he can get that right side balanced out yeah see how that came out kind of hot there yeah bounced over that right flipper uh oh well here we go We're Off to the Races and we were talking about cashing in early nah you always be Cashers I'll tell you what there we go at this point I'm well I might get them right over then cash it in I get the right for 500. no you got three of them it's 500 you're right no no no no no no bounce there you go oh we're going all the way in yeah beautiful ski jump okay let's see a drop Kathy do a drop yeah you need it you want it you want on that left side drop catch oh no don't hit it by accident yeah don't change your Strat there you go one more time 300 million two few shots actually just keep flipping and he will be done with this hole pots he still needs to hit some there's one there's another Alzheimer's off flame flame throwing the Martians there's another oh no yeah I heard it okay he's got it he got it he's over all right three for Greg was that the danger warning or was that Star Trek doing like a sounded like danger warning to me all right then proves the Greg by one stroke there we go Annihilation jackpot for the roads hmm all right and a let's tack on 225 million of worthless bonus so that was a four that was a three no because that was that was ball two that was ball that was the end of his ball too and the because that was this is now ball oh sorry yeah you're right you're right this is now Ball Four yeah yeah over coming into that so head back in the other direction he's been over now oh with an end oh okay oh that was nice yeah that was fine all right let's see if she tries Ski Jumping it or she just goes for an orbit or a ram she's Ski Jumping pass oh it just does not have the momentum no it's just not smooth you can still do it but there you go just take your time root nice shot there we go that actually has a momentum okay hey well take it take the hunter there's that oh nice so yeah it depends on the speed of of how that ball is coming down that won't make it no it'll but not clean I guess it'll make it but it'll set you up for like a shot to the left orbit also just take that 100 I would think there we go there we go finish that off before you start your multiball get the door open again and do your second shift nah don't yeah don't bother with it no come on I don't want to be shooting the the three bank again she's two shots away from multiball you start your multiball all right that puts her at uh she's got about 300 million to add to that score so it's 8 32. okay okay so that is about 700. does not put her into the seven categories so that means she took an eight and then she sells one more ball oh yep yeah all right what was Jason bringing with him 277 okay nice drop catch takes out a right ramp he's sticking with the strategy of ramps and orbits to go to Annihilation and hurry up land good help yeah that door is just way too dangerous well started a little earlier now okay don't do that yeah Jason don't do that so he does not get his 100 million he does not get to keep playing that ball he will be sitting on roughly 570 million why is Adam back I don't know this isn't right he must have seen something because I didn't I didn't see anything is he tilting out to get to ball four I mean or ball five I just let it play no Fred did not have a slam tilt right at it too and he was done in the chat he's checking the Tilt I think that's why Usher's looking down there too Shepard reporting that Carrie got another hole in one you can't add ear plugs at this point no you can't no no no do I wonder once you've started a format like this or a best game qualifying you've got to let the pin lie outside of the things breaking I mean you can do it after this round yeah oh for sure and I think they should sure I mean I I agreement I recommended to him yesterday I'm like hey install earplugs before tomorrow because you will have the pin golf go so much faster if people wait 10 seconds for a tilt Bob then waiting 60 seconds every time for a tilt well while they take a break I'm going to take a brief break as well it's been a pleasure all right commentating with you both and thank you for all your tuning in continue to tune in this will continue to broadcast here for another couple hours maybe hour and a half I think this Carl hangs his head we have at least we have a light at the end of the tunnel excellent Sushi we're gonna go have they are too done here we're heading over to gorilla yeah yes so uh but uh yeah continue to watch some pinball and enjoy it and I'll talk to you guys later sounds good Colin thanks Colin Adam's taking another picture of some more scores this is good I don't like where this is going no not at all so what are you gonna do give two people one more ball oh they're done now yeah they only have three balls okay okay all right I guess we're moving okay we're on so let me move it okay I don't know all right don't leave me in the booth I have to play hey if anyone's got any quick questions about what's going on here I got about uh two minute window I can help answer if you want to know how things are what it's like what the formats are shoot them on the chat real quick and I'll see what I can do see a few names on there recognized Miss Greg Dunlap Brian Shepherd in the house what if AMF breaks this round um you know you gotta get everybody through it um and the game has to play at least 50 percent of the tournament in order for it to be kept in so if it does get through this entire round those scores will count if it goes down before all of them will be tossed up okay camera's been moved we're gonna get that set we're gonna go do some warm-up I'd like a gift of Carl moving the rig as well um we'll see if we can make that happen all right so uh because we ain't got a seven and Jason got a nine on that hole it's about today the score is here we're moving on the abracadabra all right game number five for this group abracadabra we are trying let me get I'm the only one here I will move over and get the uh the illustration seat all right so we are the lit targets that will score the bonus value you increase the bonus value by getting all four lanes which are also available down here or shooting down all 10 drop targets followed by this stand-up Target right here that increases the bonus value which is whatever lit drop Target you down or if you go down the lanes you also collect the money it's a good game I actually think I prefer it over team one if anyone watched the Texas broadcasts from last weekend uh Team One is the same layout different art package of course um but you're getting 50 000 points for hitting a lit Target after you get all six Lanes so there's actually a one two three four a five and a six all right so we're just waiting for Jason I mean uh Fred to show up here Fred will be player one Greg player two and so on and all the players get to practice before their own game so it's not all four players practice first and then they play one at a time that's why we're waiting let's look at the standings right here and you kind of wish I could filter out just this group right now Carrie tearing it up with three holes in one jeez minus seven fantastic all right here goes Fred yeah yeah Shepard the uh just the uh second group if I could filter that out and show only that um because everything's mixed in right now okay you really want to avoid the one right here because the one is going straight down the middle most of the time I'd say about 75 of the time the other good scoring opportunity are these lip pop bumpers um they turn on when you hit slings or there's switches in here once you hit the pop bumper it turns off until you hit one of those things it's like the Playfield has a slight warp in the middle all right so Fred he's got a little drop Tucker right here but it's only worth a thousand so it's not typically uh it's not generally worth it to go just for the Thousand uh drop targets uh you really want to finish off all 10 of them bring them all back up to increase the value can't I use Chrome's Dev tools to filter the table I'm not doing anything oh no oh no oh no here goes yeah please survived that all right lit Target right here I think that Target's actually up should be shooting for it maybe it's down again looks like it's up from here all right the target score on this that you can there's 30 000. all right Fred increases the bonus value so it Awards the current bonus value so I got a thousand points for that shot increased it to 2000 also this is where you want to start being a bit of a sharp shooter picking up the targets only the targets that are lit so next year Josh was saying that this tournament is not going to be in Las Vegas it's going to be in Colorado because I guess the Ami show is not in Las Vegas next year all right Craig's coming up here taking his practice round the flip was a little soggy on this first they are I got I got lucky on one and one I did not trying to grab it from underneath you know how you kind of like pull them up sometimes with those em flippers the ball's actually like in the drain already and you can kind of pull it up happen once but then the other time it did not work so I mean it's playing okay yeah it's fine no question there unless you hit the one you got lucky on one of them yeah I was terrified of it yeah yeah I've seen so many go straight down the middle from there this is real game I believe it is this is now his real game yeah one of my practice around the thing I made sure of is that I knew where to plunge to not hit that one exactly I didn't care if I hit the four every single ball I just didn't want to get one I mean you think you want the numbers because it increases your bonus value of of your lit targets so as you complete one two three four this value goes up right here making your lit shots that are right here and here whichever one is lit is worth that value in the center of the Playfield for example three sitting at about five almost six thousand honestly I was playing these lower pop bumpers yes I was gonna say did you see me doing that yeah just trying to keep keep the ball moving up from them you have to be careful because it'll hit and slap right back down in your face so I don't feel like the game is leaning I think nope right yeah it's weird because you know if it does go through that one it it has this weird like it comes down right then it's kind of J's right there it's weird look at the one he needs there it is that's fine okay well it came down okay sure it's like the old uh fairy game at Papa have you ever played that one oh yeah yeah oh yeah hilarious yes and then you try and play the curve and it doesn't work it's on ball five starting at 16. so right now he's looking at uh eight at the I believe blood up here correct needs to get over 18. to make it a seven I did try and go up the one hole a couple times and uh got denied now why not alley pass it hmm why not why not shots and clear out your one and four huh yeah if that's the one you need yeah there we go there we go okay he just went down a stroke doing that so he's at a seven now and I think what he's trying to do is drop all of his drop targets to reset them yeah he's shooting for that last one yeah on the left got one on the left and two on the right and the one on the right is lit so go hit that one Greg when you miss the bumper behind it moves the light so right so these these switches here yeah well and behind here too Carl so if you missed the Target and hit just that sling it will also move the line I didn't realize that yes you can tell when you miss a shot see that was this no I know I know just watch all right you got them all back up look at that nice all right that's it you got it got a five all right I think that's two of us through Now jazz and then Jason yep exactly what we were talking about I think let's practice all right Brian I see you sent me a link but we're just into here in twitch see my uh or an email all right she escapes the uh the one lane of death having an excellent ball one here wait that was the other one all right perfect that will work thank you thanks Brian all right this looks like she's gonna get it in three oh no no no no no all right that's it a three Chad's got a three that's got three nice it's playing very well she got off to a slow start on the first two games but playing well just getting bad breaks and we all know what that's like like when you're trying to lock your ball in the lock hole on Star Trek in the middle and it doesn't stay and keeps coming out what's up with that we were stunned watching Greg play X-Men I'm thinking about Center blockchain just like Star Trek why was he doing that it would start uh it started but his accuracy oh I saw it yeah right in without hitting the lock every time without hitting the lock stand ups right in the middle all right and came down catch quiet boom could not believe it and where is Jason so this tournament uh actually sold out early this year which was interesting I wasn't quite used to that earlier than previous years earlier than previous years and so when I won my state championship I had to go on a waiting list but you had to wait for the people that booked that didn't win their state championships to drop right thankfully that did end up happening so you uh book right away and then cancel if you need to that's right that's the way to do it that way this becomes just like every other uh limited entry format where it sells out in 10 seconds [Laughter] 30 cameras this should be uh Jason practicing right now yes which honestly I don't like to practice on EMS too much I like to get my uh the plunge down my plunge now exactly about it I don't want to play it too much because I'll play too well and then when it's time for the real game I go to Pookie town Yancey's chiming in he thinks that uh Chad's got a five and not a three I I stepped right in as she finished so I don't know what ball she was on I don't think you want to test the Tilt I mean I suppose you could oh am I completely wrong there I don't know it's possible because I was doing other stuff I thought I saw three another five I can uh we can check on your sheet sure I'll check on it uh when you move games sounds good all right sorry Chad that's what happens when my attention gets diverted see everybody thinks like you know Josh is working so hard but he's really he's sitting in a recliner behind a desk sometimes sort of nods off he's quite relaxed if you see the floor you'll see it's actually Carl that is all over the place running the cameras running the sets running the setups the hardest working man in pinball if you don't know him get to know him great guy great plenty of hard-working people and uh an extremely talented pinball player so proud to call my friend Jason's saying okay how do I get a hole in one on this well you hit the lit targets get your one two three four I don't think you can shots these though Carl to be honest I don't think so no that angle looks no it's got it looks a little beetle-ass ah it's got that see that the hook right there I think it's possible rattle it's possible yeah because the uh the in Lane looks like it's slightly to the side of uh of the angle yeah yeah it's possible this we'll see this one looks better that one's got a little bit of a hook to it sure you can just stay away from that one okay this becomes a battle of catch knock the ball around it's gonna go side to side up top and that's fine Jason holds many world records for playing the longest games yeah those lights move let's see that see how that oh yeah I saw that I thought it's very beetle-esque I'm telling you that's just I don't think it's Error keeping you from shots in the inlanes getting your one and four make you earn it go up top Jason get that one in reverse then you don't have to worry about it he tried he did almost the one drain yeah go let that bounce over okay those thousand pop bumpers come into play and you get that side to side going and get them lit up of course as soon as you hit them they go out but then you hit another sling and they'll turn back on boom on off there we go oh one for that four almost take that one very nice very nice The Flipper oh that was tough what did he finish up with there 15 he's halfway to his goal well ball good first ball first ball right yeah nice plunge to the four perfect so did I make a mistake earlier saying those numbers Advance those bonus value because that's what I thought they do if you hit off or they they oh because he's done at one thousand yeah he hasn't done all four yet there we go so he was awarded 1000 Advanced oh all four are Advanced at one place not each light one oh my God that would be far too easy okay yep we didn't go for it see yeah I should have got um what was that yeah he got him up so they were all down he Advanced it that's tough no bonus on this so plunge go he wants to come out of here with a three why not top 24 for finals agreed that's a third of the field you don't want a third of the field you want a quarter of the field I suppose did we have we had 72 in the past I think we have yeah this is It's been the same okay no they're excellent another great shot to the four yeah oh good nudge little a little nip with the left flipper there so his Center Target is lit on the left side that's what he's going to go for just missed it one but now he's up to three thousand see look that does not Advance those lights it doesn't you just thought he missed it didn't hit hard enough that was that was a tough break for Jason right there not the targets hey that's what he had right there well that part's dead right there but the rest of them just keep an eye those at home back me up here just keep an eye on those we know those do okay there you go just hit those thousands three more Jay okay doesn't have a drop on the left side he does have one on the right you can't post transfer alley you can tap pass you're gonna tap ass not me I'm just saying you can check good players that's it over yeah Chad said over hit the one target he's done it's not gonna happen I know it's not gonna happen but you can get it over there to the left flipper pretty safely Jason just waiting for the Tilt to settle there we go oh trace the backhandle pays for the backhand attempt right good news is I mean worst you can do here is a six best he can do is a five there we go oh knock it over no take four okay guys playing with fire over here oh six is it 29. oh not cool that's rough telling you guys viewers at home these games are tough I'll do the Q a real quick there's Amy everybody waved Amy hi any other questions you guys want to know I miss any I apologize let's see shout out to everybody watching it's training um would it go to eight games that's a good question I don't know if uh if we had to pull a game out because they've moved around if we run out of machines then yes but the uh they keep substituting with something else looks like we're uh going to Tron next Tron did me dirty yesterday yeah he's doing well I had the Christmas tree lit on the scoop and uh went up the gym shot and it just stayed there came down sling drained that's my match there it is all right we're gonna go okay sounds good thank you all right to Tron we go all right anyone just joining us recently we are uh this is uh the second half this is Group B of pit Masters here in Las Vegas Nevada at Red Line games and the flippers feel underground arcade Club it's a take a look at the standings once I get them up here okay awesome wait is me playing oh okay we're pulling up the groups just for today here just for this session uh we've got Escher with a 700 party just like Carrie still carry with that impressive three holes in one uh Madigan Davidson the 300 par so this is these are just the players in this session if you go to ifpafinball.gov you'll see the standings for the entire tournament overall and we'll all show that at the end of the uh end of the session as well if we can uh I think we're good I'm gonna be joined by Steven Bowden here shortly there we go my Fred tickets were on Tron this Tron is this not playing uh that difficult but the uh the slings are very tight the outings are open it's deceptively easy I guess I could say Carrie is only owning The Joint she uh yeah I think wonderfully all right so the target score for Tron is 12 million it seems pretty low but we've got a lot of uh low scores on it um my strategy personally I like to full Plunge to here to hit the spinner to get my first light cycle and then I just went the three-way combo of the ram Cora side Ram followed by the end of line scoop to get into light cycle that's the ideal path scores making sure I input everything for the group correctly yes that easy hahaha Jermaine actually let me look online see if they've updated the scores there to make sure I've matched everything properly so the inline scoop I had a really hard time hitting on the Fly um other players seemed to not be having problems so I'm obviously not that good at it I'm surprised this game doesn't have the uh Eli uh ramp mod every single Tron I've come across lately has had that thing all right game is going to start we are let's see who's gonna be first third one will be Fred yeah this game you can definitely get a good shoving without tilting all right see what Fred's strategy is 12 million it's if you're in light cycle it doesn't take too many of the you know the life cycle Ram Cora side Ram scoop combos to to be done and that's the end of Fred's ball all right looks like that was just that that was just cruel not expected but but you got to watch out for the bumpers they can drain yeah that's that's the risk of taking the strategy of doing the full plunge to get that uh that right orbit light cycle so that scoop if you hold the flip rub like that most of the time you are going out the right outline oh a backhand to the left ramp all right getting some good action here all right one more light cycle assume it's going to be the side ramp for that for flipper it could be the right orbit all right starts clue and clue you want to shoot the four shots with the helmets one two three four you can also spell clue to Advance a shot from the left to the right that's nice and I've been telling everybody on this game that if you chatter The Flipper when it goes off of the ramp you'll actually get two letters included oh that was a little bit of a fumble all right it's Carl holding down the fort yeah sorry to everyone on the Stream I got a nice walk outside see some daylight it's a beautiful kind of cool crisp day here in Las Vegas it is nice Carl Weathers here this year I remember last year was freezing remember that that concert we were just dying up there it was cold I think I still have that picture in my Facebook feed somewhere of uh of Jim looking ridiculously cold and Johnny with a weird crazed look on his face that's kind of normal though weird crazed look so yeah how many viewers we got now 144 right now all right thank you for the 144 of you tuning in this lovely Friday evening eight hours in it's a lot of Pinball it's a lot of streaming all right Jason uh getting that right over at light cycle that we were talking about we're doing the full plunge I found this quora shot to be very very tight the target the U Target is leaning way over to the right yes but even worse than that it seems like when you do actually get it past that you target it seems to rattle in between the wall the the recognizer wall and the rail of that lane more so than other cores so yeah there we go post transfer always want to do your damage here from the right flipper okay he took the Easy Shot to get his light cycle ready which is not a bad choice given that you're playing pin Golf and every ball matters he starts his light cycle and a little known fact here once you get to the light cycle animation you actually want to cancel it out as quick as possible because your ball save timer is actually running during that animation uh he's serious that's news to me thanks that might be past the grace period yep just barely I bet but it rolled up the apron just enough to stall it did so he's back to the board drawing board on light cycle he will have to do all six of the light cycle inserts he's already done one of them at the quora and he can also start going for quora you know the other thing I saw some people going for which I did not I didn't I took a two on this machine I was pretty pleased with the I had a good light cycle and I did a lot I'd had a good End of Line value before I went in the light cycle I had it like up to 1.7 million all right so I just started cashing in the lines during my light cycle to get your doubler and then do that yeah but I saw somebody else they were uh going for discs this disc is not that punishing no now of course now that I've said that as soon as he shoots it it's going to be mean but compared to a lot of other discs I've seen this one does not put the crazy spin uh nice Ricochet in the gem there unintentional but take it when you get it tries to ski jump it but didn't get a clean shot still alive double scoring right now double scoring is a clutch so if he drains it's double bonus on top of the 3x that week and he's he's hit gem twice right don't till yeah he's probably got maybe three million in bonus by now with a his if he drains now during scoring I mean not one two of course um yeah it didn't look like that disc was that dangerous as you said yeah yeah let's see what let's see if it keeps doing it but because at this shot yeah okay now that was almost death yeah but that but still that wasn't bad uncontrollable death yeah it's not the light speed oh there's some modded there's some modded Tron discs you got it oh wow wow I knew his bonus was gonna be big because he'd hit gem at least three times because she started Gem and finished it so yeah the four times that'll do it yeah this game when it was new a lot of time the the way the disc threw the ball it seemed to defy gravity I mean I'd have balls come down here and suddenly Zoom yes back at just fascinating to watch yes yeah so every time you hit Jim you increase your abundance multiplier by one so he must have hit four gym shots they're a nice sequence there oh no yeah it was it was a play right here where he gave him a little push-up yeah a little I mean that's the natural tendency you know when you're over in the Inland Outland area you're giving upward nudges in that case it gave it that extra little oomph it needed to crawl all the way over to the outline so not atypical there's uh the Z and U targets are getting lots of action everything so nice he's gonna get to keep playing that was good oh come on Tron he did exactly what he needed to do on the outline I mean he created it he created the upward motion up and down action went in lane and then he bricked and drained all right so yes mean can plunge into light cycle not quite and instead she is down down for the count so both Yasmine and Greg are just they're having a rough round yeah at 13-11 over look at that dead bounce nice and friendly when you want yeah I tested it once during practice and it dead bounced into the sling and started going sling sling man I'm not doing that again but the the hell the held flipper is not necessarily always working anymore no because that's going to the uh yeah so then I started kind of doing like a pseudo live catch that still that was that's not bad I might try dead bouncing next time so I'm giving it an upward nudge when it uh comes with a flipper so give it a slight push okay you're giving an upward nudge off on the dead bounce to make it be safe not not a bad idea all right gets a nice inline there still can't get control here come on post transfer you don't want on the left flipper there's nothing good you're gonna do on the left that's the right orbit right orbit oh yeah right orbit to the side ramp to the come and build that into line and I've never I think tron's right over it's not it's terribly difficult as other games yeah it's true if the pop bumpers make it seem a lot narrower and tougher than it really is right so he's been early a couple times to quora now I think he was going for that left orbit trying to because he can he'll he has played life cycle yet or not no he has not it's okay so that left orbit is very tantalizing nice nice gem shot for a bonus multiplier he's already in two dangers I believe there we go oh that would have been nice to carry some combo action in the line some chance oh I wouldn't have held that up take it okay into the disc oh that that was rude oh man come on Tron all right Greg pavarelli back at the PIN he'd like to be able to get the target score of 12 million points here on Tron so that he can stop the hemorrhaging of his round clue is running meaning that he has those other little yellow helmets flashing for additional points uh given 15 million Target value that's they aren't bad you know every little bit helps um I wouldn't I wouldn't shoot for them intentionally I'd I'd be shooting the ramp and then do the double lane trick you can you can get two clue letters like I keep saying that's true no one seems to do it though all right light Cycle's ready that was a not a good handling of that but he only took one danger [Music] all right we survived the pops not yes he does survive the pops I would have liked to seen a ski jump there okay I didn't have enough momentum there look out he didn't need to hit that upper flipper there we go all right now this is not necessarily that's what you're talking about that almost went right now all right there's his left ramp he needs a quora there's his Cora super double super all right he got the end of line yes and the grace period ball coming back up to eight and a half million just like that you just need two of those double supers and you're done pretty much he survives the left out lane they both come kicking out of the scoop which actually helped having two balls taking the momentum off of that that's gonna survive nice cash in your end of line nope it was late all right here we go he's a 10-4 I if I were him I would check my bonus right now because he hit Jim right come on check your bonus Greg look up okay 990. so he's got he's got a million in bonus right now he's got ten and a half it's really just two uh two ramps to do it two jackpot transfers to say oh no don't yes okay yes there we go okay he's got it now he just don't know actually no not yet he's a 950 over here that'd be brutal I don't know okay now you have it no oh no yeah 169. yeah he's got it 950 just over the top [Laughter] probably really doing the math [Laughter] all right life Cycle's lit let's get control here she's going on the Fly the light cycle there oh still still safe Oh I thought she had it there we go post transfer oh wow that's a bold move going for that backhand I don't think I've ever seen anybody backhand from the cradle to the scoop okay here we go this is now better End of Line value 850 late everybody seems to be going late here we go this can still cash in 850 right here and starting late again oh no smile after that yeah so we've got a two for one clip maybe that's one of the two for one inlanes yeah must have been Dr Curley Tech what was the uh like I can't watch it right now because we have the stream going yeah we don't want to pick it up tell me what that two for one is about xsv shark asking how much are Tron machines nowadays well first off which Tron are you talking about he's talking about a pro let's talk about a pro probably those are the ones you're gonna be able to find um it also depends on how much it's been modded and these are Rife with mods yeah I mean they have the you know the various El wire mods on the ramps you have different uh you know toy light cycles you can put on it you can have the little Tron arcade game thing over the scoop um I'd say you know Tron Pros if it's really sweet shape and and has some tasteful mods on it you're probably gonna drop what do you think five oh you're low you're really low I think yeah I think that you're at six and that's six even for a pro and I'm not talking like like totally decked I'm talking about I'm not talking mirror blades and and stating pen stadiums or anything like that I'm just you know maybe with the El wire and a little Tron cab on yeah I think it's six I think you're at six now all right this this machine is is you know Prime candidate to be vaulted it is yeah there's definitely money that can be made here by Stern if they were to choose to do another run of Tron I'm still kicking myself over not taking up the arcade owner in Austin Texas who offered to sell me his Tron Le right after the launch party and I didn't do it and they were cheap at least they were terribly too I think they were what just maybe five or four I think they're unforced yeah so good good sequence there from Fred to uh stamp his what ball is this ball four yep all four Carter de par staying at two under well played by funky fresh all right Yasmine let's get that light cycle nope didn't plunge it come on put in the scoop oh no backhand nope post transfer yes there we go there it is oh no no oh no probably have it in bonus next almost yeah 900 000 bonus from all the stuff she started and now she's got to plunge off the other three players it's no fun to do when you're the last man or last woman standing [Music] and that's not valid so she'll have to plunge that again there we go all right get all the bad bounces out of the system now so let Yasmine play and Carter five okay now so this is an important plunge here that didn't validate that's surprising it hit quite a few bumpers I thought there we go if you can find it and get in just like a skill shot plunge measured plunge and other machines you couldn't get that scoop every time that's a million points right there every scoop every plunge is a million points because you get the skill shot for 500 in every ball and begins with the mystery award available which is no oh she got it with just I think the outline switch gave her enough to put it over oh she gets it with the outline switch plus 900 game Otis he has been taken to five goes one additional over par so we will be moving on to more pinball action we will go from one sci-fi theme to another from Tron over to Star Wars relatively new Stern pinball machine this is the either premium or Le Edition because it has the large hyperspace Habitrail that circumvents the the whole Playfield as well as the uh little crack egg cracking open death star toy in it and now we do not have Carl's Head for you we're really sorry for that we can see Carl from a distance moving the rig over to Star Wars and uh we yeah don't have Carl's Head but uh we will now may the plunge be with you on Star Wars a lot of people doing Han Solo I've noticed I did Han Solo did you choose Han Solo I did I got on the fifth ball I had a house ball on Ball Four I had video mode lit at eight times oh and that'll do it right there I was like hello and never got a flip all righty that's not good wait how did you get it up to eight times at the beginning of your ball all four hit the skill shot oh you did the full plunge pick video mode hit the skill eight times and then I never saw it never went on the flipper wow I know I know but it's fun it's great to be here Colin MacAlpine and we're watching uh this exciting group they all did well and Tron there uh yeah they found so Yasmine was able to get it off of an outline switch Plus 900k in bonus to push her over the edge to get to five and we are following this uh this force on this whole Round Here of uh Yasmine young and Fred Richardson Greg pavarelli and Jason wardrick we are at the ifpa pin Masters a Stern pro circuit event here in Las Vegas Nevada at flippersfield underground arcade also hosted here by Grand line games in Northern Las Vegas if you're visiting the Las Vegas area hopping your rental car or an Uber or Lyft and get up here and come check out the great lineup of pins they have very well maintained say hi to Adam who's done Adam and Eve that's the difference but I did notice did you notice that uh there is a pain management clinic right below us oh gosh good business this weekend so all these people standing around on their feet I'm thankfully sitting now yesterday I watched Kerry Wing destroy in the Women's Championship and I'm lucky enough that I get to play with her today she started off home one hole in one and she's had another one since she is just so great to play with and to watch it's it's a real treat she's uh she reminds of the way that she plays pinball reminds me a lot of Pete Sampras playing tennis and he would play it very stoically and just you know he would just make all his shots okay and that's what Carrie was doing yesterday apparently that's what she's doing today as far as three holes in one um that's amazing to start off full one whole month yeah that's pretty and on Black Rose which hasn't been very good to everyone no it has not we we the group we were following here on the stream they they're one one player did well and the other three not so much um the yeah they're the black black rose was winning oh Carrie just took a nine but look at she's had a nine and an eight everything else were ones and twos jeez that's one she's lights out for whatever reason Star Wars was just not kind to her but there's no listen Star Wars without a ball save that can eat up anyway oh yeah and then also the other thing that they've done here on these pins for others of you watching at home that think oh these scores should be so achievable the the multiball ball saves are see you later I mean you blink and they're gone yeah done all right he's short plunging I think I'm out of excuses um maybe I should just flip better okay that's I like I like what Greg's doing here he's he's chosen Han and he's trying to light his Hoth sure the first mode of Hoth is a video mode so you're guaranteed to complete it without any danger of the ball draining this might be in practice by the way oh is this practice it's four player though yeah oh okay so now he's taking the chance he is rolling the dice he is he is uh he is going all in oh he's trying yeah but I like what he was doing yeah I like in the hyperspace um Carl has a great point of sorry he get the first hyperspace and then on a subsequent ball the next one's huge your skill shot will allow you to to Grant you a hyperspace hurry up to start off your Plunge and then you get a multiball you just have to catch it on your plunge that's yes that's true you have to catch the ball of course now did you so in my group we were wondering you know I was talking to Chris Compton and we were wondering I wonder if you plunge and it goes straight down the middle without hitting a switch if that will just give it back to you invalid Playfield the answer is no it does not get you found that out yeah Chris Chris did that didn't hit anything didn't it yeah just it just blooped it he went right down the middle yeah you know why it's because of this switch right here I yes that shooter Lane switched ballet is the Playfield because you bastard all right hyperspace hurry up is lit for a cool nine mil almost got it how excited are you to play the next Steve Ritchie game Black Knight I'm really looking forward to playing the premium in Le I I am really I'm not jazzed by the pro why it's a black knight there's no upper Playfield that's that's sacrilege okay yeah it still should be a fun game though yeah I hope I hope it will and I I one thing I'm most excited about because I I really don't enjoy I mean when I first played Black Knight 2000 before I got into competitive pinball I enjoyed playing Black Knight 2000 now that I know how to play Black Knight 2000 and play competitively I don't like playing it because it's just a boring boring game do you think anybody in the history of Black Knight 2000 has ever changed the left flipper coil okay there's no need we don't I don't think Jim Hammond has one I'd love to run a side tournament on Black Knight 2000 removing the left flipper completely why not you don't I I I'd love to do it ladies and gentlemen next year at indisk Carl will be bringing the non-level the other thing I was thinking of is the Habit trail that runs on top of the upper Playfield you just get rid of that yeah kind of like with the kind of like you can mod no fear to also have it kind of fall out I mean it wreaks havoc on the play field but over time but instead of feeding it back to the right flipper every time yeah so but I'm looking forward to the upper Playfield and the gameplay of the New Black Knight because I have confidence in Tim Sexton as a a computer programmer and a tournament player and somebody knows good rules versus bad rules and coming up with cool fun rules to play that's that's the hope fun all right we are now going to be in business practice time is over we're looking for 200 million on the Star Wars here so the outlane in Lane post dividers have had the rubber removed the outlanes are wide open they're very hungry there's no ball safe whatsoever and the multiball ball saver time periods are microscopic Palm is a good choice yep everyone's caught under using the Han strategy yeah looks like and this is just don't plunge the out lane don't plunge the center I know I haven't I always avoid it but I'm kind of curious now just because it's an option of playing Han don't you get a benefit as Han in Boba Fett yes but why would you ever want it I don't know I'm just is it yeah is it really lucrative like can you hit it for like you know 20 or 30 million points a shot no idea huh he's got two shots to hop he's gonna shoot the third one right now so Ace pinball nobody's doing the Leia Strat because they don't need that many points so Leia is really good for getting some good blow up scores on your multiballs I believe I think she gives more points in multiballs around something like that maybe Ace pinball you can correct uh if we're wrong as far as the Leia benefit so really good work here so now Jason can play video mode and more importantly after video mode his Hoth multiball will be immediately ready so just I don't think he had much of a multiplier setup so this should he has a he has a multiply of only two actors yeah so this is just the very basic 15 million probably yeah somewhere in there I saw Colin Urban I guess maybe it's the younger generation he had only a 2X multiplier and got nearly 40 million on video mode I don't know I don't know how well if your streaks are high but I don't know how you yeah there always seems to be some point that I can yeah okay so he's got a good he got 165 as a streak which is good so yeah I'm thinking okay 20 mil okay yeah but think about that that's that's where the whole risk reward why when when pavarelli was practicing I was actually hoping it was legit because I thought oh sweet he's going for the risk reward if you can get that multiplier up via the stand-ups of death then play oh what happened there what happened there I wasn't watching he went in the hall did it come back out the right side or did it uh it didn't it didn't register and it just dropped the the hyperspace ramp and and put it oh I got robbed out I mean I've had it uh you know oh I got rejected I got rejected twice reject where it comes around hits that and then comes back this way I got rejected twice during my game thankfully it didn't cost me my ball either time but that was really rough excellent dead bounce good patience there all right we are wrapping around Hoth there's another one good oh great control there on the left flipper that one not so much let's see if he can survive he does and he starts his video mode with only once again the 2x multiplier but really that's not what this is all about what this is about is simply qualifying your uh your multiball all right Greg trying to navigate the asteroid field here he has got a decent Street going now let's see if he can maintain this without running any further asteroids got up to 116. nice held off on doing his boost until he made it through he's getting a streak up to over 170. oh 182 is where his streak will end so also 21 million now his Hoth multiple is ready as long as the game will allow it to stay put or not to stay put but register it yeah yeah good hey that was great Awareness on Greg's part he saw a prior player get hosed by the pinball Gods on a particular shot so oh no no no no I think that was two yeah okay so we can't see his action button he needs I think one more hit to the force targets no it's either already lit or he needs five hits three more hits okay no now he's got it because it will all they would all be flashing prior to that of all so now he has Adam already at the action button as long as he presses and holds it and so doesn't he still need two because it goes f-o-r-c-e no I don't think so kind of curious now oh TIE fighter hurry up nice he got that for 19 million and he's definitely got it now though press and hold there it is and that'll give the one that drained plus one more ball save is still one oh that one oh those that went too far off the apron I don't think he's gonna get either of those back oh that's unfortunate really unfortunate for Greg because if he had stayed in that multiball a little while longer I think he would have had a hole he has a 10x multiplier right now oh oh oh 10x on the hurry up duster hurry up hit it hit it hit it sure thank you instead he gets the drain hurry up so but still good first ball or something because he popped it back in the haunt again yeah multiball yeah he said no thank you yeah you just dropped the hyperspace brand all right well Greg ended at 111 million more than halfway to the goal so Ace pinball interesting Ace pinball is claiming that you can get 200 million with Leia just by lighting Hoth and Endor in eight shots interesting you can be the guinea pig if you want so Ace pinball explains so you mean by playing if you play Leia and you light meaning you have to play of the Hoth mode right and play one Hoth mode and play one indoor mode and that will get you 200 million is that what you're saying I'm thinking it might be the combo shots to light those two because the combos can get pretty big they can yeah if you if you can get your multiplier up well you don't get those from combos you get those from hitting the uh the stand-ups of death well no no you can like when you're shooting for Ender the light Ender if you shoot the ramp three times in a row you'll get 20 to 30 million just from that oh does it give us like five does it does it give a combo boost yeah yeah you're getting an increasing value for consecutive shots don't play any modes just light the modes he says huh is there a Star Wars on location I'm gonna go try this so I was told to choose um okay you can't really backhand the hyperspace uh ramp here no premium um I was told to choose Tatooine and not indoor permissions uh yeah the reason why is because indoor the one indoor Mission you have to complete for Han is uh I think eight shots okay whereas the Tatooine one is a single there's two and you can as as as few as two okay it's on a timer but you shoot either ramp and then your death star shot lights to complete the mode all right um so you can't really you know you don't have to combo it you just have to hit it on a relatively generous timer to hit the Death Star shot and that I think it's the most escape from Moss Eisley or something like that oh she took the indoor mode and that's a common problem I think I did that exact same thing on this very Star Wars mine was on the left out lane where you're trying to get control of the ball using a flipper technique to try to live catch it but you hit it too early and you pop it up over the top of the slingshot and promptly draining you to the out lane all right okay Jeff Parson says they discussed it on the latest football players podcast him and Joe so maybe I'll have to listen to that tonight all right I will definitely be doing that if you don't know already Jeff Parsons hosts the pinball players podcast if you enjoy uh pinball podcast or just podcasts in general or pinball in general I highly suggest uh subscribing to the pinball players podcast it's a great podcast lots of good content uh Jeff's good guy enjoy that as well as many other podcasts out there uh so yeah I think I will uh give that a listen this evening so one thing I'll notice I noticed with these uh asteroids is the kind of you know there's like a circular pattern to them so if you can get in that streak you can avoid them pretty well it's like getting in the yeah like at the very beginning like a wave exactly exactly yeah it's only 10 million for that uh that was his video mode oh that was the mode okay so now oh that was his videos they lit on the plunge yeah hmm now we've got the uh okay let's see if he can survive past the ball save or you know okay there's one force Target oh I see you have to you do have to hit them five times oh that's okay okay so now he has the the animal ready all right yeah it spells from the bottom to the top and they all reset every time you hit the targets all right take that now he's playing yeah take that hyperspace he's playing in the freedom of excellent he has an atom ball just by pressing and holding the action button and that had nice value to it 42 million yep he's 140 million now and he can press and hold that button anytime he loses one so no need to take any dangers right now his inner loop is lit he's pressing and holding that button he'll get that one back plus one more fighter hurry up it could be big here it's a 24 million shot nail that stand-up Target I lost all the hit it gotta hit it come on take it take it take us down to 15 million there it is a low value see I don't know what sets the value of the Tie fighters oh he got it he got it yeah nice all right the the value the Tie fighters start low and they they gain in value right but I've seen them start at a million on some games that was 200. I mean I see them starting all over the place I've seen them start like that on later Tie fighters even the first one I've seen oh really I don't think I've ever seen all right so was that ball two or three I can't see from there now if you start hyperspace hurry up multiball you cannot bring in any you know once that's started you can't start other modes correct I don't know I think you if you have a mode running before then you know the mode points will still count during hyperspace multiball but I don't think you can start in a new mode once hyperspace multiballs running okay I also have no idea what the levels are for the jackpots in hyperspace I don't know either I just you just cash in and shoot it yeah I don't play this game this is one of the friendliest uh mystery kickouts on Star Wars it'll come to the right flipper he has a TIE fighter hurry up for 20 mil Nails it for 17 and now bash away with his values they started at 500. yeah but I think that was the second time through wasn't it I don't think so oh it could also be just it's based on how far you are long and in terms of Tie fighters you collected and if he if he selected collecting five times you're right that'll increase that'll put him further along the value chain you're right you're right he's not gonna get it in bonus he only has two million so he falls short of catching that 20 200 million Target it is ball three right uh it's tough to see but I believe so I'm gonna take Tie fighters instead of the video mode looks like it that's an interesting choice uh it will give him a TIE fighter hurry up but he's only at 10 million points he needs a lot more than a typewriter hurry up he goes for a full plunge and it came to his right flipper so hey that's that's just luck yeah expect that he's got a hyperspace hurry up also running right now well actually good coating there it pause while it was in the pops yeah Annie has a TIE fighter hurry up he has hurry UPS all over the place which he Nails the Tie Fighter hurry up he's in danger of tilting because he's just used both dangers jamming away on the Hoth did not give him it just lit it right there oh okay so all that frenzy play for 19 million points I don't know why he's pausing here I guess yeah I guess he's only a 2x so it's not really make a difference it takes a safer uh indoor shot yep here comes some Millennium Falcon flying through the asteroid field all right see you see that pattern that was I think I should have gone left he's taking the slow round okay now he turns on the turbo boosters let's see if he can make it through without hitting any uh asteroids still going slow right now Fred's showing his age you know not quite up to date on those video games but he has not hit a master yeah so he's got to get it perfect yeah the perfect bonus is big it's what an extra three or four million that's actually not that big [Laughter] all right so his multiball is ready and he misses and he miss flips all right backhand Endor Mac hands Endor here comes the Hoth multiball yeah I did not realize until you pointed out Carl that you have to hit those Force targets five times now you can get two in one shot oh really okay but they all reset they pop back up right they all pop back up but like if he hits the O and the r at the same time like right there he hit the onar at the same time so he gave him credit for both but you don't have to hit the actual uh Next Level right you don't have to but if any other five but if you do it gives you okay so he's already through them back so what are what I don't play Hoth multiple a whole lot so this looks like uh the inner Loops the spinner increases the value and the inner loop collects okay and that's it and that's is that 10x right now he should have been shooting something shoot the indoor shots those will give good value oh it's back down to two yeah yeah oh no that's why you don't want to cradle up that much on this game yeah you got to be on your toes you have to make quick decisions yeah ideally with the Han strategy the best the best way if you can if you can survive as long is actually play Tatooine whoa 50 million in bonus uh if you can play the Tatooine mode and start your Tatooine multiball and make sure that you end the Tatooine multiball with 10x running and then you shoot your mode shot and you guys mean just continues to get hit hard by these pins unfortunate drain all right this looks like ball three to me so that means Jason actually got in too I don't think that's before I know so small but oh I think you're right that does look like a three so pansy 39 yeah the thank you Centron one it's the stand-up bank so this stand-up bank right here is what adds multipliers to your shop multipliers as well as extend your timer on your shot multiplier and in tournament settings the maximum uh shot multiply you can get is 10x there is a feature in R2D2 I think only R2D2 where you can get double no it's not double it increases the timer well no but you can in normal play you can get all of it to 40x but then you get a doubler can you get that tournament yeah um and that's probably the force targets the doubler oh the four star gives the double yeah because then you can take it up to 20x yeah all right so here we sit unfortunately for Greg he was on the precipice of getting that 200 million but he ended it 186 for this ball so he will have to wait for ball four for another chance to reach the 200 million Target this is pin golf a la pin Master's Style so when you you need to hit the target of score and if you hit the target score then whatever ball that you hit that Target score on that is the golf score you get for the home so for instance Jason player one hit the target score on ball two so he gets a score of two for this hole Fred is on ball three if he can hit the score on this ball then he will get a three there is also though all these games are set to five ball play and if you do not achieve the target score in the five balls then you will get more than five based on a simple you know linear year distribution down to zero points uh and you can get a maximum of 10. Strokes on a pin oh my God on the right and then just goes that's not much of an escape Fred's stomping off outside to go cool off after that bitter left out lane drain I would take a ride Escape here not Tie fighters and not hyperspace because she didn't finish one yeah the Tie Fighter is only 5 million well plus all these buttons it's yeah not that much weatherman bookie indeed the geometry of this game and how the ball comes out of the plunger Lane and the auto plunge is uh is pretty brutal essentially designed to drain you on the plunge which is a shame yeah what other games are like that that are designed to drain you or can drain you very readily in the plunge I think first off if you don't full plunge if you try to go for the skill shot on Twilight Zone that will put you into the left pop bumper now which will set you up for a potential left out lane drain but I can't think of many other games that are like this where made iron mid true well what if it actually goes through the big loop right you're right I guess yes yes I guess you have the option of think of the auto plunger yeah yeah where the auto plunger is going to drain you now unfortunately a bunch of iron maidens it's easy for that uh Auto plunger to get a little bit off and where it won't necessarily go cleanly through that big loop yeah very easy and then it'll rattle around and then you're out of control and possibly draining oh my gosh and that's why I think he's got in bonuses stand up Banks he gets it in bonus all four years yeah so that's the thing when you go for the soft plunge because you don't want to lose your ball you are sacrificing the all that extra bonus x that you get off that stand-up Bank when you fully plunge that's right I think it you know it Cycles around between like four to eight X I think it varies and then you can pick up you can pick up an additional award if you can bounce into the correct lit Force Target but it's no you don't know yeah so I mean Ace pinball there are no rubbers on the in-lane outlane post divider I believe there are still rubbers on the outlane posts that are in the widest settings all right Fred is at 165 I think yeah 165. he is currently draining down the left out lane another unsatisfied customer but 26 million in bonus puts him close but no cigar 191. and so that he intentionally did that he strategically chose to go for that full punch to get the bonus ax yes because he knew it would put him close and indeed it did but close doesn't get you anything we do not need a mic on funky fresh he would uh we don't need a mic out during the games for sure all right let's see if he has me can get some oh no golly like no matter what once it hits once it hits the wall over here on the left you're done yeah it's it's like it's like your em with uh you know the wooden you know wooden outlanes that just when they go over there they're dead all right plunging through here yeah make sure you plunge the correct Players Ball and don't plunge your own or don't don't play don't let it drain drain your own yeah okay that was Greg's ball so now we're to player three let's see I would do yeah do bonus hell well no because you don't want that because it doesn't help you for this ball don't do that yeah it isn't ball five is it it's ball five yeah okay so it will help then oh no oh no we'll find out don't we no no there it is 21 million 42 total oh man oh man if he would have tilted that away that wow that would have been really really bad all right come on Yasmine okay get control blast some tie fire to the action button hyperspace ramp is just evading her there we are oh it wasn't yeah all right so that's going to be probably an eight no a nine blood sugar bonuses nine nice nice comment there yeah we would have seen a funky fresh explosion all right Carl has stepped away to move the camera rig to the next pinball machine which is a bastardized version of sorcerer they have bastard died this game by taking away the ability to lock balls so all and also the ramp won't even score points so it how to play the game you can try to spell out Sorcerers without your spinners and unfortunately these Spinners are not all that juicy they're kind of sad and so that leaves you with going back up top and getting bonus advance and bonus X from the lanes up top ing that you go over to the right side to hit the three drop targets that are on timer for up to 50K um but that's about it all right so this group let's see they have Sorcerer And Game of Thrones off so this is hole number eight for them uh it is not hole number eight overall but there's their eighth hole and uh joining me here in the booth is uh waparelli I just wanted to briefly say thank you for bringing me that beer I'm having way more fun now but excellent ball ball three there I looked at the arrangement plus 5x bonus on a full plunge knowing that all I needed to do was the Escape lit was not have it go right out the left out lane and I'm going to get a three and I said to myself I have the short punch down what's more valuable a trap or a guaranteed bonus X and I will never make that mistake ever again you should always short plunge on Star Wars in every situation if you full plunge you're asking for a house ball and Fred Richardson he he did the full punch to get the bonus X and then almost tilted it out well I knew I had it on Ball Four yeah yeah I knew I had it but I was just like I can't believe I made that mistake on both three always take the trap on Star Wars Never full plunge that's all enjoy everybody so this game of sorcerer is probably going to be mean paparelli out you didn't send me one so I had to find one I think that was I think it was from this week right yeah it was uh they posted on Facebook yeah yeah hey you don't send me a picture I I take the Liberty to grab them wherever I find them you can come in here if you want all right uh Centron they yes they do allow um if you bring in from the outside and it's not GameStop whether they you know private venue called game line and uh but you know they don't sell beer here so that's not a liquor license thing and yes correct we will not be feeling any power on this version of sorcerer because the locks are set to LOL hmm I heard yesterday that somebody didn't have to get along yes someone did manage to get a lock yet yeah they it it rolled and rolled in there very slowly and somehow sat in there so there's no way to maybe wiggle at it don't try and don't hate it just don't even shoot the shot well I mean it's a good transfer if you want the upper flipper but well no because you can just backhand the drops from the right flipper so no don't even try yeah the other thing I noticed I think they've modified the timer on those drop targets very short yeah that's right all right we are not unreal still we are still practicing and I actually I I don't mind this setup if they had done a better job of lubing their spinners but the Spinners aren't that job they aren't and so you know because to me that's like hey you have then a compelling strategic decision to make of whether do I want to you know take the chance of my sorcerer letters to light my Spinners because I can get juicy Spinners or go up top and try to survive pop speeds right um yeah and just kind of grindy yeah it's really not much fun to play now what do you think backhand with the right flipper up to the Target or try to pull this past it and then just keep using the left uh flipper all day long I was doing the ladder that it was typically timing out before I collect well and to me what it was doing because I got a seven on it by the way uh yeah and I was backhanding it up there but for some reason with the backhand they will hit the targets and it'll kind of head over to the left yeah yeah it yeah you know geometry right there and it bounces that way yeah yeah then it spends all its time in the pops and your drop targets reset and you get nothing you get nothing you get nothing exactly so it's like come on get the Escape key Escape key yeah Escape key oh wait I just let Johnny touch something I did time to yes see so actually they put a nice face on me that's a very handsome face see there you go that's Luca look at Luca hi Luca but you've lost you've lost weight since then I did yeah I did lose some weight so not only you're no longer green but you're more slender I'm a slender green yeah you know I'm a light green yes I think once I actually posted on Facebook how how you pronounce it and not just how you pronounce it where it comes from the city it's a tiny little town and look at this guy oh man how you doing good oh my good friends my good friends are showing up coming in come on in that's what I like about these uh these uh shows that we do in these these tournaments is like you get to you keep seeing the same people and stuff and it's just a it's like a big happy family you know yeah for sure uh this I think is practice because is he practicing he looks like he's uh no no not with that face not with not with that face when you have that sad face when you finish your ball no yeah yeah and he just plunged the uh the dummy player there that's great okay so wow so Jason only got 7 000 on his ball one uh so yeah this the I was going back up top via the left flipper I found the the feed this little tiny passageway okay to get up top from the right flipper was really tight because they've got this big fat rubber that usually guards the ramp yep but they uh they took off uh they took away the ability to get any points or any locks in that ramp so you can't just play ramp all day I mean I tried hitting the ramp but yeah it didn't work let's see what I'll see so Jason is using uh your method he's post passing over yeah let's see if he hits the right orbit I think that was that's what you're gonna hit for some reason it's losing a little bit if you don't hit it clean it kind of goes back down yeah yeah so he's one away from uh some bonus X which says what he's going for absolutely see so he's ignoring all those uh sorcerer I thought you're supposed to hit the flashing lights what's going on with this game he's not following the norm a little early on that shot oh oh wow the dead balance is not so nice oh oh you saved it another nice save wow okay I think he even nailed the camera yeah I think so too I look and he's like oh wow why the suffering there is a pain management clinic just below us if you need some help what is Adam and Eve all right orbit no early oh but it hey it goes up the other way and gets the bonus X so now he's at 2X what do you end up with is there a score one-on-one well there is a score the target here you can see is 400 000 which is very difficult the way the sorcerer is set up to get that a lot of chops um Carl how did you play this game back up top uh yeah I was actually uh backhanding from the right hand flipper up to the drop targets oh okay and you were able to get some of those drop targets to complete before they timed out yeah all right yeah you saw it I mean a lot of time the the issue is this this pop bumper is very active and it's sending it in this direction yeah yep so just getting it back up top game bones multipliers and just building bonus in general I wasn't going for sorcerer targets unless I was uh you know one away sure and even then when I once I lit it I drained I mean if every time one away I mean how much is this I'm not gonna shoot 2500 I'm not gonna shoot this target right here yeah no no yeah I did that accidentally flailing once and I immediately drained right deservedly so even lightly if you want to just have fun Johnny like you did on your bus yeah on my seven yeah all right so he's gonna post pass I'm thinking that's what he took a danger there so he's gonna let that tilt Bob settle for just a second and let's see if he post passes or if he goes back into the drops I like to see his facial expression when he plays he it's like he's suffering he's like why do we do this stuff you know why why do we protect ourselves let's be right orbit up there you go very nice I mean that's the game oh right at the tip goes pass again maybe yeah and over no and because of this yellow post here it doesn't make the ramp that much harder in my opinion it makes it this late yes that much harder back yeah yep yeah not even worth going for from that right flipper all right so he's got a whopping bonus of 8 000 points didn't Lane change fast enough he's four targets away from sorcerer if he decided to change path see does it it doesn't come down really safe or anything oh that's two warnings he's got what 2x multiplier no no multiplier he's got 10 000 in bonus right okay 10 000 or something and 154 000 in score chasing a target of 400 time to take a drink of course it's a lot of chopping wood man this is Josh they're running out of water up there only ice early that's not gonna make it that was my problem with the right orbit why I I stopped okay let's see no no it's not gonna go no oh but it's not fifty thousand did he yes yes and the multiplier get a couple more Pops nope ah yeah I took a five on this one so this was not a good this was not a good game not surprised by it how's uh how's this compared to the other games is this one of the harder ones to get far or I don't know I think there's some stats on the uh take a look at uh let's look at the sets of this game this is just session two this is technical yeah let's see two four three seven six five six six five two three five nine seven four I know this means yeah so yeah they're all over the board more in the sixes and the sevens than in the twos and the threes okay no Carl you know why isn't there an average there should be an average difference they actually they actually did have that I think in Prior years they did okay well it could just be this page too because you made a special page okay for I thought there was yeah so pinball nerds podcast the uh this is actually only day one of the qualifying there's a whole other round of nine holes tomorrow they're both groups so Jason being above the cut line at the end of the day today does not get him into the finals he has to make the cut line tomorrow yep 5.09 average for Sorcerers that's the average what's the high no what's the highest average the highest average the worst the win the hardest game is Blackboard okay oh great that's the next game the hardest try and easiest at 4.2 wow followed by Abra Kadabra what average playing nice really did you not play ever yet I did I got a four but all right well you're under the average then okay so why are you surprised okay okay I know math is hard yeah it is for me it is I'll let you do it the cruelty comes out of me when he's unlike you see that yeah but that's what makes it interesting that's what makes it more fun it makes it more fun the drama look at the viewers Carl we'll get it like 170. yes from 169. back up top he's at 2x right now he's got nearly 10 000 in bonus so he is 324. he needs quite a bit more bonus X all right get another there he's got there you go close pass see at this point would you not backhanded I guess not huh I'd backhand I'd backhand the drops for sure right yeah I'll get that that Inland give some more bonus does it stay lit or is it unlike after you claim it good question and no he's still going for the Spinners chopping wood chopping chopping two advances I'm almost debating if I would actually maybe go for the upper targets even if you have it on the left liver instead of the spinner because the spinner it looks like it's kind of weak if you don't hit like a really clean shot yeah let's see he's still gonna fall for the spinner though yeah see dirty shot and so he is at uh four thousand bonus okay he's not there yet but he's close that helped that those invoice yeah those inmates help okay he now he now has it in bonus as long as he has boom definitely has it don't do anything don't try to save it he knows does he know I think he knows is he looking at it he's calculating he's thinking okay maybe he's puffing yeah side relief of relief is it a puff of relief yeah I think it was a puff of relief yeah it might be a puffer really let's see still playing though 388 he needs 400 and he has it with bonus and he's taking his time I don't know why come on Jason is he reading he's reading oh Jason he is reading why is he reading what's he doing I have no idea he's reading and puffing he wants us to go to midnight come on Jason play what's the spinner get me I mean what's the sorcerer give me that's what he's looking at he lights your spinners good job wow even a little Spinners and he got it he got it he got how much for lightning Spinners wow he's at 440. that's a lot look at that he just got up to like 100 000 with one spinner shot kind of no no he didn't he found her he just hit that well right now yeah so that's a four for Jason man that would have been nice hard that was a lot of bonus wow he's happy he's walking around nice puffing all right Greg only 72 000 going to Ball Four let's hope for a little better uh luck here get some decent feeds let's see if he goes for the right orbit strategy as well all right come on Mr bovarelli I think it was worth the danger sure oh that's the second one all right be careful now all right he's got three targets for three stand-ups right yeah three stand-ups too bad all right one more ball left so right now he's in danger of taking it at nine eighty two basically 160 000 is Notch so yeah so you know you it you got to play it just like you would something else or you just you try to every Point counts every you know Golf Point counts so essentially he needs to set his Target to say okay I need to get 160 000 points and then after he gets that then set it say okay I need to get out 240. wait did he just lose a ball no he's plunging off the other place okay are you new here uh sorry I'm a noob oh very early means in Italian I do not the poor ones really yeah oh you poor people okay same root word as poverty yeah yeah poverty well he's gonna be feeling poor after this game I can't get some points here hopefully hopefully not all right still alive all right post pass go up top get to 116. failed shot at the orbit and sharpen the ax all right close pass they should why don't they should have put it in Paragon instead of this oh it made it there we go you made it up good switch get some targets oh get the 50k nope no all right back to the ax kill shot of the orbit oh what was that oh success okay I'm gonna stop doing it ah and yes it deserved the finger I wouldn't play the fingers he gained a stroke that sucks yeah that sucks so another plus four sorry Greg for Greg unfortunately 18 or 14 over par now all right that's an awesome picture of Greg by the way on the on the thing I stole it through Facebook he didn't send me anything so also he just took it yeah all right so now we had Jason and Greg play now we have Fred and Yasmine oh I think I'm warming up on game all right guys see you later good luck we're we've got a big group so yeah oh yeah we've hyped it too much yeah that's my fear it's kind of like some of those uh those sandwich shops that got hyped too much at pinberg and then everybody went to the same restaurants don't speak of the the I know the steak sandwich I'm not speaking though we don't need any more crowds over there I actually really like that Ace pinball with the with the Modica plate thanks for subscribing that was another thing that Jay did for us Jay did for me Jay did all the art for the latest uh or that last critical hit to card release Jake Collins it's nice to have finally have know someone that uh can do some art because I was always a hack at it so let's just let's talk about expected value on this so if you shoot that right orbit you're getting minimal spin points because it's not lit right you're going up top and you're getting a lame meaning 1 000 in bonus right and so then every four shots you're getting another bonus X right so you're really man okay so every every four shots is another 4 000 bonus and a multiplier so after eight shots you know you're talking that you're gonna be it thirty thousand points no not even that twenty thousand twenty five thousand points so where I I think yeah the drops are better yeah the drops are better even though it's not a guaranteed thing yeah you've got uh your EV is better like wow Wow Let's see what French uses oh post pass and up the orbit cowerson we definitely need a team one in the pin golf Bank 500 000 gold would be a little bit tough though out of all the games here this is probably the most painful to watch yes yeah it's just this is not fun it's not exciting it's not yeah it's not fun it's It's a Grind it is a literal grind yep I just don't and see I don't understand why to even include it just my personal opinion when you have when you have Paragon sitting idle in barracore sitting idle yeah all right he's up to a whopping 6 000 in bonus oh my God so he gets 34 000 for his troubles and we have to watch some more of this all right well hey it's key stay tuned because next game is Game of Thrones and that is actually pretty exciting to watch so uh go get yourself uh bit of food all right go get a sandwich get a drink use the restroom [Music] check social media and uh we'll be done with a sorcerer soon enough let's try to figure out what this thing was right there I think I just realized it's the uh camera viewfinder nice there we go you can get 25 000 if you can get that drop get it get it get it nope said you'll get ten thousand but again point to point still 10 000 is you know every trip up there is a lot better EV than going right over only 40 trips needed that was a wise choice there in the right flipper maybe she saw some of the not so friendly dead bounces that were being experienced to the right flipper all right she's two Targets away from sorcerer at this point I would probably pivot and especially because oh and there's a dead bounce and unfortunately the sorcerer letters do not carry so the they'll be completely unlit the next ball all right let's see some more top Lanes hey there we go three top planes oh a bone effects and one trip plus another one for the road there you go don't shoot the ramp either up and over or the uh the Double Inland is always nice man seeing seeing that no no way necessary way over the top huh my next oh man your next one my next time practicing this I might try to do a little chassis shots yeah I was wondering the same thing to see if the rubber stops it yeah because if it if it does you can max out your bonus and just do bonus multipliers I mean what's the so bonus maximum 15 20 30 40 50 59 000 that now your EV now your Eva going up top oh yeah that's a lot better and if you can get those uh thin Lanes lit yeah do they stay lit I'm pretty sure what lights on let's watch all right chat who knows sorcerer well enough what lights the Inland sorcerer said I used to own one of these and I don't know I hate when I forget the games that I own well yeah but you never cared about lighting your inlades right you heard about shoot the ram light The Spinners speaking of lighting the Spinners one target away now oh no good good get that oh that one flashing red arrow waiting there very difficult to hit from the right flipper in fact probably near impossible to hit directly but the left flipper you can hit it that's trouble that's gone I was gonna say she's hit just about everything in the game except for the Top Lane so maybe something with the upper Lanes of the bonus multiplier that lights yeah still I mean so whatever she's doing I guess I haven't been paying attention where all our points are coming from she's already at two hundred thousand yeah it's got to be yeah value from those so if sorcerer gives you 25 or 50 000 for completing it that changes the story there too it does agreed you just it's like other games early Solid State Games you know like alien poker you got to figure out like which targets from which flipper are less deadly because some of them are just the the geometry of it will result in drains yeah the dead dead bounce and one of the ribs are broken on that flipper or if it's a something else that's my gonna be my my guess is the wife that dead bouncing properly all right he's almost up to a whopping 10 000 a bonus top bumpers that give nothing oh that was big big big and a uh in Lane is lit ouch sling said you're done so it's completing the drops that lights deadly okay so backhand drops then get one in Lane lit and start going to or get both lit start the shots Fest if it doesn't drain yeah nice save see what she does here she actually grazed two of the sorcerer letters there so she's now got four left to go bounced into it oh great she only has two ups to go now these are the Dangerous Ones see if a game of letter no change I think yeah we could have gotten that out of there a little more yeah oh my God all right so how's our scoreboard looking let's um pull that off my phone here all right Escher lefkoff and Raymond Davidson both at seven under par right now Raymond still has two holes to record Escher has three holes to record Zach sharp Zach sharp is already at five under par and he has two holes to record uh Fred Richardson who are watching is at one under par so Carrie Wing is now and even so with her three holes in one she also has a nine and eight and six and a two and from the morning session Adam Becker Carl and myself are also at five under and then a drop off to Will McKinney at one under and shares it with Fred Richardson for now and then at even par we have Brian O'Neill Jim belsito and then three in this session of Andre massinkov Johnny Modica carry wing and the latter three of those all have two holes left the two record and then there's three players at at one over Chris Compton is at one over and then Jason wardrick who are watching and Ryan Wenger are also at one over with Jason with one hole to record and Ryan Wanger with two holes to record Fred seems to be pulling together in this ball a bit he's uh has quite a few uh inland there we go clear the drops to 25k that's big Here Comes again if you can get it over there in time get it get it get it get it yes all right so both inlanes are now left 365. he also has 22 000 bonus times three he has this yeah you can just let it fall flip your smile there too yeah he knows he knows yeah all right just the shots I want to see it uh No One's Gonna test the chats yeah oh oh it's still good bonus is two four six eight not two three four five oh I forgot okay that's why these bonuses have been bigger than I expected okay and but the key thing here is if you can go through a lit in Lane it's three bonus advances right right yeah that can get really juicy top Lanes just Advanced one bonus right yeah two drop targets also Advance your bonus no they do not see you can't get the I was just thinking the demon you know the the whole bonus you can't get it because you can't play multiple oh yeah you're right but somebody when I was playing earlier today they stepped up on their bonus was held how'd they do that no you can light those from sorcerer completions oh she might have it she might I think she does it's gonna be close yep all right well done Yasmine taking a four [Music] all right last game Game of Thrones huzzah all right getting your last Glimpse here of the evening of flipper Spiel underground arcade at game at Grand line games here in the north Las Vegas area we're at the ifpa pin Masters this is a Stern pro circuit event one of the 20 events on the calendar where the Whopper points you earn also count to your standings in the stern pro circuit that will make you eligible for the top 20 players in that to play in that they'll be in the springtime assume presumably of next year um so yeah if you're in the Vegas area be sure to come check out flipper Spiel Underground and it's a entry fee based location so you pay a one-time entry fee the games are on free play very nice collection of games both in terms of quantity and also assortment of the latest modern pins all the way back to two inch flipper Em games come and check it out we are on hole number nine or the ninth hole at least for these players to play in his Game of Thrones and they are not playing yet because that is Carrie Wayne and she is not in this group I can't pull up their profiles unfortunately so that's funny and they're only on ball too okay so we got a little bit of a log Jam here at uh Game of Thrones so Carrie is player one Johnny is player two and I don't know who else is in their group I'm gonna go do some scouting I'll be right back covert uh Johnny hits the pop bumpers ruining his uh valve Playfield right there this is where the camera's gonna be for the last game of the night uh so we can follow the group we've been following um maybe tomorrow we'll follow group with Raymond in it maybe not it's coverage of the IPA pit Masters day one tomorrow we'll go live as close to 10 a.m as possible once again and show we will show at least the first session the second session is up in the air I will not be here myself so I don't know if I will have anyone to run the rig outside of that we will do finals on Sunday all right Jeff teal is up on the game here Jeff has a plus nine going into this game he has two games remaining it's almost a third of the way to the 150 million Target score in Game of Thrones if you do not listen to Jeff's podcast pinball profile you should you can find it on what to say iTunes Stitcher Google play um let's see Spotify now I can't remember what a full tagline is all right that looks like he uh he's got two swords he had to leave me finished the Greyjoy takes his iron bank mid-ball that's something you don't see a lot of players do normally they hit it only at the end so if you have not watched us on Game of Thrones earlier this game is set to Casual mode meaning you do not get to pick your house you must play as house Zac Stark you have no choice all right Jeff locks is a lights is locked he also lights Tyrell on the ramp he did that by shooting the lock Targets on the right hand side a number of times and now he also likes Martel who's excited for the Game of Thrones final season coming up let's see what he takes you got options these are not the only four people in the tournament they're just a four that we are following well not the players right now they're uh the players with the profiles they're up next on this game oh Jeff was in ball three right now um so if you want to see everyone in the tournaments you can go to the link about to show here standings let's see right there IPA pinball.com golf that will take you to the standings for this tournament with all 72 players we have two groups of 36 players this is the second group for the day we play nine holes today nine holes tomorrow and then top 16 move on to finals on Sunday the totals for today and tomorrow are cumulative and Jeff drains away for making the goal with a two that will put him at a plus seven over par I think yes excellent game all right stepping up let's see this is uh Joe Joe anthis Jose local here and plays games and wow quick drain Okay carry Wing stepping up right now Carrie currently even currently at par with a 28. again this group that we're watching right now has two holes left to go this one and then a game of starting Star Trek [Music] had a fantastic start today with two immediate holes and ones about two locks she's got lavender and gray Joy available she's probably going to want to light the next lock all right here we go Blackwater multiball so you can see the inserts are flashing three different colors or some of them are they were at least I should say um the colors uh correspond with the mode so the green shots are Blackwater shots the red shots are Lancer shots and the purple shots were great showy shots and that was a very quick multiball unfortunately in the hole at the moment with only 2 million going straight for his locks he's got one lock left just while was just punched off and tia he successfully did a hole in two on Game of Thrones hey Carl all right thanks buddy and yeah because in the nervous I've done well every time you've uh thrown it on me oh yeah every time so let me follow you tomorrow um but that being said guys are abusing me because I didn't start multiball I think it was at about 80 million and needing 150 but I didn't have a house to bring into it so I'm like you know what I'm gonna get Martel at least I lucky I think I hit a sling and it started Believe It or Not Terrell so yeah yeah I saw that yeah so now I've got two choices I've got Lannister Tyrell and Martel I'm like I don't care just give me two Atlanta's definitely coming in because that's some points there yeah but um I think I want Terrell to get the center shot and uh I don't know what the chat line what what should I have done it just it just all came together I don't know no but like they were saying forget the mo forget the house just go for multiple I'm like I don't know if I can get something we just watched Carrie get 11 million in Blackwater okay 11 million that's it yeah give me something yeah I I want at least the uh they're saying they're going to multiple for the safety of being in multiple which means nothing in the way this is playing yeah they shoot these Targets on the right hand side it's it's there's no ball safe right Burlington's finest thank you in this thank you Chef B who might be the smartest pinball player ever says multiple doesn't do crap and look at this Dr Curley you're making me feel better don't ask what my score is but you're making me feel better Carl how's that Sushi tasting we are so close I'm getting hungry yeah and I can say this Johnny Monica who's looking fantastic because I've been on this no carb diet I go you realize we're going to a sushi place they may have rice he's like I don't care get riceless juice Johnny Johnny by the way a big winner off of the collectings of Andy Rosa yes yes yes so he's been bragging about I'm like oh that's great that's so nice of you to buy dinner for all of us I'll hold them to it yeah this is just it's playing tough you know what I was really worried about was that extra uh post on the right orbit it's not as bad as it never came into play if if you have a fast left orbit shot that's when it comes into play yes but Luke was telling me uh he was getting a lot of power inlanes I think I think Escher had a few too boy Johnny's having a rough one here where is Johnny standing right now he is um Johnny's uh at par right now even with 28. he's on Ball Four the again do you wanna know how hard this is playing Kaylee George took a 10 on it a 10. ouch I've been reminding that him of that every time I play him now at first you are keep that in the bank if you're playing Kaylee and then he'll still kill you look at the locks lit now I'm going middle you've got two houses you've got Greyjoy well this seems to be the typical step there it is start black water with Greyjoy and Lannister yes three houses he avoided he avoided Greyjoy there well Greyjoy time's out if you don't shoot those shots so I kind of like that if you miss it it's gone like six or seven seconds you missed my first ball I had all lit except the start shot and Greyjoy I went I went Center left orbit Dragon whatever that shot is yeah and then and then the right and then the right orbit I'm like okay and I'm cradled up on the right Flipper the backhand Zac Stark kill oh geez that was it his black Rod is over 17 million he is close to wall which normally you care less about on here it's like oh wizard mode it's it's a just a multiple another you take it yeah it's it's a safe feed too shoot that left orbit oh oh the door opener fumble yeah and you know what I watched because I it does tilt easy I was cashing an iron bank right away I'm just like I'll just take it now I saw that I saw that no one catches it mid game and you were catching it mid game that's not me that's Luke again from Minnesota who did that I'm like oh that actually makes sense because it tilts so easy yeah yeah why not I've lost a few points and holes by you know a few million oh thanks gosh Kerry's gonna end up with the G 56 50. is she gonna crack 60. okay she got 60 so she'll take an eight yeah Johnny Johnny he's got a lock is that a Pity extra ball extra ball yeah 15 million though I'm not shooting that no no no no no no but how did he get it lit without having anything else done is that a Pity extra ball it's like a daddy's ball three multiball race and start I think it is I don't know oh he's just not finding there it is oh look at them the best would be all of a sudden if it just said pass for now what but again these five uh Gregory shots if he doesn't hit one of them within six or seven seconds that mode is over oh and that extra ball animation is gonna go on forever oh oh and I I hate really despise how the animation flashes now you have no idea where to go no no no no no the um not that yeah that's a problem too but it flashes the boss of life oh that ball was not on because it flashes everything right that that instant should be removed from light shows Johnny right now fortunate inlay okay good good good all right I would uh that's gonna come down to his left foot he gets at a ball from the pops he did yeah yeah he did all right yeah cradle up third time I hate wasting that on a multiball oh man Johnny so yeah thought about your black water score it's about your mode score how did you do in the mode yeah 78 million he's nowhere it's like yeah uh Johnny danger oh oh why did he do that that cost him a mile for sure I think it might have yeah he's gonna take an eight yeah oh do I have to go up and plunge it or can they do it no you're all done we got Star Trek next all right my last hole you're back to the funky Fred group and Greg and who else is in that Jason and Jasmine all right final game then we get to go eat there's gonna be 10 people in your car you realize that oh yeah I can fit 10 people in my car I think I gotta go all right it's a chat room what would you oh there's someone else on Star Trek so chat room what what would you do in this game what would be your strategy let me know for Game of Thrones I want the chat to tell us what would they do would you be playing for for uh black wire multiball or would you be going for Martel okay Baratheon I will know which if you cradled up would you want to just okay it's nice to get progress on Greyjoy but you're not playing for hand of the king you wanna be looking for the points but I got 80 million off of my great joy so that's I got 40 with one shot to go I would have got me right there had I made that Zac Stark shot what's up it's on video he got a four Jason got a four okay it's 618. didn't he Jason yeah I remember yeah it was a big it was a big bonus it was 618 he got so okay so uh ZZ Top would go for wall save points 20 times bonus easy 50 150 Milli says so Martel is uh Brian's vote what's that pattern I'd go for the wall yeah so go for the wall so you just uh I got that so go for the wall just shoot the uh shoot the left orbit get the bonus multipliers up top it's an easy feed it's an easy catch the only problem is once you've played while you can't get up there anymore it it'll orbit I think it orbits around that was the freeze I was in in the attack from Mars I had completed my orbits and I wanted to get back up there because if the uh the saucer or whatever the scoop is it was a nice feed and what you could have bounced past over the right right but I couldn't get it into the Pops to get into that right because you're very pleasure yeah I finished the three shots yeah this Game of Thrones seems to be playing meaner than last year even which is surprising because last year was nasty in pin Masters this was here as well yes it was same same game chat line the question was asked earlier about tomorrow are we going to be playing the same nine machines as there are several here I've talked to Josh talked to Adam Becker they said these are the nine best playing games so yes they will be had there been maybe some other opportunities and that doesn't mean if a game goes down early and I mean early yeah very early yeah because once that first group is done you got to fix the machine yeah what would happen though if it's just a unfixable game what would you do I always I always thought the remaining players that didn't play the game would get the average of What the game was that's not fair no I think so then I mean in my mind if you really can't substitute out of the game you have to just throw out the game you have eight holes instead of nine so complete you think that's better than awarding someone I think Four Points correct me if I'm wrong instead of a potential one I I know that they may think differently last year at the ifpa pre-tournaments in Toronto there was a pin golf at cabin fever and I think one of the games went down after and there were three groups there were three sessions okay and it happened on the last group and I'm almost confident that we were given an average score because of how many people there were it was only nine holes which okay is another Factor too but getting the average was like yeah this could either help you or hurt you I mean yeah exactly so that's what they did I'm positive of it yes chat we still have eight hours left of this thankfully though not today tomorrow the best part of the stream and I said it last night I'll say it again when you move the rig Carl's Head all day for the win because I needed to get some advertising up there space for sale and for rent oh that's nice you know the machines are playing really well any glare you might see on the screen not a problem the hardest game I would say in the lineup is probably X-Men I found Black Rose a little dark yeah it is X-Men X-Men was a little Bluey if you will it's very blue not just a little you're being generous there okay the rig is totally Wireless and the amazing thing about you and this rig yesterday how many hours 14 15 hours I think it was 15. you didn't replace a battery no I didn't that's it uh it's phenomenal isn't it that is pretty good there you go foresight look at that Anthrax the batteries are usually around the 15 marker that 15 yeah I tested the the earliest one dying on me was 15 hours I think the other ones lasted to 17 or 18. so I've got a little buffer there hey chat line help me out help help a ginger out here about to play Star Trek you've maybe seen it on the Stream best best path to get there I've seen people go three deep on Nero which I mean it's future famine yeah if you don't get it you're getting a 10. exactly uh I Raymond was the top right prime directive space jump or whatever the bottom right is that's my path and he didn't get a multiball at all because of super ramps you can get 10 million easily on super ramps it's not 20 or around there he didn't get one multiball and all he was doing was playing it like a Steve Ritchie game or even a Mark Ritchie game you know like like fishtails going ramp ramp yeah boom got a two right side for super ramps thank you Dr Curley when the shop.pinball the shop.ightimo.com huh super amps line yep combos are your friend another Ginger all right we'll see at the club right confession Mensa meeting next Thursday it's too bad everyone hates competitive pinball I just uh it's just not a wow factor I mean no one remembers where that started I remember I remember I'm not going to say it but I remember where it started that's not true not true at all we're gonna have sushi You're Gonna Fill Up on a diet I'm having a diet Dr Pepper and you think that's gonna stop me from I'm joking I did have some Cheetos though oh no I'm hungry it's been a while me too we had Denny's for breakfast oh I'm sorry I know Denny's of all things it was there we were in a hurry to get here yeah yeah we were going to have a really nice bagel this morning a really nice breakfast of course in Vegas you're trying to walk out of the casino and darn it all there's Mississippi Stud and there's the craps table and so now this long time we had to play to get a nice breakfast shortened so needless to say my breakfast cost two hundred dollars [Laughter] I want to go to uh there's a Hash House A Go-Go in my in my uh Casino find a hotel casino yeah Rio there's a few of you yeah because it was cheap very cheap real is a great I I enjoy the hotel it's off the strip a little bit yeah I'm disappointed about one thing and I was telling Derek Thompson when you're there check out that seafood buffet great crab legs he went there no crab legs I was like what they were known for that Caesar's apparently the place for Alaskan crap okay U.S Denny's is better you darn tootin it is although I last time I was in Calgary Alberta I may have hit Denny's too maybe three times I think it was there for two days that's not a good sign funky Fred trying to get things going he's having a I think he's having a good day but I mean he'll let you know about the bad holes one under par is a great score certainly that's the cut line right now yeah yeah it is the cut let's see where's the cut let's get the exact number well we can't get the exact number because of this um plus one is the cut right now okay good for Fred Carl we'll see you in a little bit all right good luck I guess I should talk about the game active right now shouldn't it all right Lancer great joy Black Water combo no not Black Friday yet he's already used his Lord of Light that's why I didn't light after getting three drop targets you only get one what's up Jeff was just in here gets the random sword for 11 million I'm still a little surprised that that sword is random which one you get so yeah value is based on the Rarity from what someone said of the sword in the show oh that's gone that's gone yeah so they could I think it's one lower light per Ball but that's it there's one per game I'm pretty sure it's purple all right properly oh he is all right he's playing the field here this is Lord of Light has a nice ball safe Let's see we got here but yes me and Fred Craig and Jason on the very dangerous Game of Thrones what's the target score one 150 150. that's a nice number that's like that's just out of range of everything it's just like just that's just that's just barely out of range of everything good all right so you gotta you start with so on casual mode you have to start with um Greyjoy at least activated so you're gonna play it probably multiple times but you want to warm up Martel you assume you're gonna have last year when you start multiball all right I mean that's three shots it depends you end up if because you don't get a choice to pass on Greyjoy and so if you hit a lock during your Greyjoy mode then you won't get a Lannister right so you want to time out your gray joys it's really right yeah you really do because you want to you want your last graduate to be a high multiplier on it I mean so you want to get your swords done right because you're going to get one sword for Greyjoy one one sort for Zac Stark right right away yeah it's lit already yeah right and possibly another sword before you start multiple see how it goes with it all right this is the way to play it warm up Martell Bounce It Off The Fat post oh it didn't okay straight down post transfer more Martel yep here we go take it don't be don't be early get ready for some Martel Greyjoy combined oh a little early recover another chance got to take advantage of that that game was kind to you there Jason oh my whoa oh way early moving ball yeah way early on the moving ball on the Fly shot now we're good all right yes yeah that's right Jason restores some sanity to himself that's why he shook his head he's like oh okay good great joy five high-powered shots Eight Second timers each oh no oh that's not a good start but we're back in control leftover takes care of some Greyjoy and some Martel big number for Martel bigger number still just building them half scoring there's his first score 1X and now take it down at 2X 73 right so that's not that's not bad so that gets you a long way so that's 100 million just right meanwhile great joy returns with a restored timer because it ran out during that so that refills that timer on great joy back to eight seconds oh get it back oh get it back oh thank you great droid's probably gonna run out oh nice shot unbelievable and oh if you can hit it ah he thought he had a little he thought he had Flipper on it but the ball caught there's a little bit more wood and that's just straight down the middle because it was heading toward the left liver that's why he's holding it up I think he was judging distance it's like oh just a bit it just slid away from him like a slider yeah so Jason was showing there that on this with this score Target of only 150 million that you don't need to play multiball and those light lock targets are drain monsters absolutely especially with no rubbers anywhere near this game yeah yeah he basically ran through what was it two modes to get that 130 was it yeah basically most of us 110 of that was Martel right all right Fred knuckle down let's do it now that the fat rubber on the right door of it is not getting as much work what's going on here yeah it's like something has changed something has changed completely and now if you're depending on getting the ball the case off that fat rubber and it's not doing anymore now your brain has to change again you're thinking I'm waiting for that left flipper feed and then suddenly oh it's back on the right flipper where I always get it it's like oh yeah I'm good wait Bounce It Off catch you on oh wait I'm not going to do that all right uh and then just that moment of uh indecision will cause you to lose control and the ball on the Game of Thrones with no side rubbers I mean any mistake which can result in termination you have been terminated that you have been terminated candy it's a candy 2000 returned like all right a little bit of action off the lot targets picked that one off the dirt and brought it in play with a and I guess deserve that in lane for it and welcome to house Greyjoy once again so he doesn't have that Center multiplied he was going for the center ramp all right one combo oh take a look all right no no no all right come on stay alive stay alive for that soon play good job thank you Tommy restored that would have been a sweet combo oh the left the right flipper was still hanging up there this is the right idea she was playing Greyjoy and taking locks as they came to her and uh unfortunately got down the middle all right Greg stepping up with only two million all right so what has he got not much happening here yet oh my God had to take an early Shake because again that rubber is not uh doing as much of a job as it was and too much too much English on the on the past there and lack of rubber yeah it just hits the wall like a just it's just a bang the wall just accepts it and drops it down in the upcoming season The Game of Thrones we'll be exploring EMS right exactly wooden rails yeah you open up daenerys's bedroom and she has an em in it what questions will be asked on the next episode of Game of Thrones all right meanwhile with the 150 Target Jason just has to do something anything I mean he's got some bonus but not enough to cover the 19 million he needs yeah he's got progress on greyjoys yeah his first graduate is going to be a big payout because you know up there they grow oh do not do not tilt two strikes do not just stay there for like another 30 seconds don't even you know post transfer this don't do the backhand I wonder how close he is to the next winter is coming maybe that's true right Zac Stark will give you that yeah that's a good point hit that Martel right orbit you're right and that could be the number with the lighting in here you want to play winter is coming well right great point yeah it's like you have one shot to hit but you're totally blind good luck does he have a sword flashing as well that appears you didn't start flashing yes yes it is so that's the one interesting thing about this game is that it is random on which sword you're gonna get you could get the like wussy needle sword or you could get oath keeper right worth like 10 million all right he's made a decision for his next move let's see what he does oh a little bit too much okay two shots left for 11 million that would do it okay I know what I'd be doing Drop catch oh all right got enough rubber on that to bounce it over nice and clean nah I'm still Greyjoy in the middle of that scene yeah yeah here we go it's one shot bounce it over yeah yeah exactly post catch it here it is okay post catch do it nice of cash money yes there it is that's what I'm talking about I know wow there it is he's done breathe the sour relief and just walk away and even got a bonus in lane for his trouble all right so Jason ends his uh day one at uh negative one under par 100 there he is there it is very nice very good setup for tomorrow's play now tomorrow's player any is anything changing as far as um targets or games they've done it in the past okay because last year I don't think they changed anything did they I think they did oh really they dropped one or two Targets oh okay the settings should stay the same on the games pretty much okay unless something was but nothing's playing yeah overly egregious right yeah exactly because if you look at the averages they're all pretty uh pre-consistent forget about scoring all right sorcerer is playing egregious yeah yeah everything's within four to four to five okay or 5.58 Star Wars is the worst [Laughter] made the plunge knocking plunge out lane Plunge outling all right Fred Fred has started Blackwater with Greyjoy and Lannister the traditional start that ball better come back okay still has this great joy timing running not for long all added you got the pop bumpers take it and his Greyjoy is over no it's not it's still on Rachel is still running I can still see the purple that was big that's going to be a good Lannister shot there okay that was seven mil for the Black Water we didn't see the Lannister value okay 85 85 don't stop yes that counts got that right wrap now that still counts for Greyjoy he got the Great Joy shot how much is that well see this value but we're gonna miss the gray Joy value it may report to us what it is 106. and 84. I'm gonna start I just got it yeah done well done and some super jackpots for the road all right good he has no idea he's passed it because he's concentrating so when he looks up he'll be pleasantly surprised yeah that's 134 and uh you'll get the good news in a second he's waiting for it eagerly looking at it and the reaction and walk away that's great you're gonna see him like giving a Clint Eastwood eye on it like it better be the right number it better be the number wow all right did I put fresa at 200 for the day yes it does wow very very well done very good setup all right see what you guys mean is oh no now we have Greyjoy again started ready now should be locked out yeah right she can't get a chance might purposely timing this out maybe and go for Martel and then bring it in stuck up there in that gate happens on a lot of Game of Thrones you can give a little jiggle up in the cabin up at the top it'll usually come off there it is good all right Game of Thrones continues with operetti who still needs to do some work for there it is yes we need some Martel we need one more Martel there we've got it he still has a swords blinking though you might want to take that there first oh no oh no do not do it just control yes too hard on the post pass he had the setup he had it but couldn't finish I almost wonder if you if that post-pass was successful if he was going to try for maybe the right ramp just to get a sword done and then yeah start Martell with a higher bone with higher uh shot X well after he lit Martel I would have liked to have seen he had that come off and that just like that right I wish he would have just let that flipper just sit there and do that and then he's got the shot for the mode start well hopefully he's seen what what just happened there that would that that uh John plunged there was uh vinyl information okay I mean it was just a plunge but it was information we just saw Oh no just a little bit higher than before a little it just loads you into security and then it does that just a little bit more speed made the difference and then the curve just the the perfect Parabola down the center the parabola that nobody wants to do yeah all right so once again we have Greyjoy Motel ready with the lock shot just staring at him bounce it over yeah yeah that would not have bounced over is that how close that was to the Joint but that would have been invalid Playfield he could have right correct he thought he had enough Flipper on it and then he he does what I what I know I do a lot is I flip the flipper I want to flip a little bit too early I just said that's what he did and he hit a foul tip and it was gone all right one more Plunge or the people who have already passed again the Lolly into false systems of security with those nice friendly looking bounces yeah right and then here we go now here's the real one let's see what let's see what she gets here's the real one I mean come on what is this at least it was an in-lane oh wow and then the dragon in a reaction shot wow take your stack yeah take the stack all right now and the multiples Let's Do It Go time this is it some great joy he's hiding over there on the dragon shot also on the right ramp his greyjoy's hiding there ball safe is gone all right Greyjoy is also about to be gone oh multiple is gone wow great joy still running wow all right what is that 58 is a eight or nine these games are playing so deceptively tough oh one that's two strikes just let that sit there don't all right fine I mean I would say but at least half a minute all right let's go let's go Martel all right now so orbit first or you know get your Center first and then into the orbit okay there we go that's one all right that's good value send it back up to right over it okay boom a very good nice right over here all right still going at maximum setup oh did that count that counted oh count that put that number on the board there you go put it on the board 117 just for that one shot and that should push him over the edge 157 from Martel play this game excellent get a quick backhand with the triple that he doesn't even realize he's already passed he's like whatever I just need to lock this ball I need to lock this ball and the game's like no we're done you're not locking it you're just not you already passed just just walk away there you go and good night nope not yet hey there it is like there it is like and we're good all right so the end of the night here we're ending all right so that is the end of the evening in our big leader if these are well yeah I guess Raven's not Raymond's not finished yeah sure why can't I scroll down here come on it's not letting me scroll let me look at it over here all right looking for our big leaders yeah that's not correct wow negative 10. negative eight wow and adamant Adam and column it five under with Carl nice okay then rainbow with the hole to go so for Sunday's Play It's top 16 top 16. that is Cutthroat it is just top 16 in ties move on or is the top 16 period I don't know how ties are working right because like I guess traditional golf the ties will move forward if you're if it's not deep but they're gonna cider but I guess they'll say what actually happened 10 under that is a big buffer yeah for extra to work with for tomorrow look at that four was his worst worst his worst was a fourth this was a birdie so par is four so he had two pars for his worst that is but look at that see now that I love that because he's just playing consistent pinball the you psych yourself out with Ping golf where you step up and go okay I need to get this all in one ball no just step up play a three ball game and you'll be nine under park right yeah yeah you're right you are right all right it's time for me to shut this thing down just shut it down for the night charge my battery thank you all for joining us thank the batteries for staying charged throughout the night oh yeah yeah there we go all right all right shut it down for tomorrow's play which will begin when same time same channel 10 a.m 10 a.m same bad Channel another 10 hours of play tomorrow all right so when we return to the tradition of pin Masters _(Acquisition: youtube_auto_sub, Enrichment: v3)_ --- *Exported from Journalist Tool on 2026-04-13 | Item ID: 10344aac-e267-4c7e-966e-45a80d564d92*