# SDTM Episode 63: This Month In Bird Watching/June 2018

**Source:** Straight Down the Middle  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2018-06-18  
**Duration:** 41m 1s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KjrgAX1C3s

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## Analysis

Zach Minney and Greg Bone discuss June 2018 pinball news on Straight Down the Middle, covering Southern Fried Game Room Expo highlights, new game acquisitions (Batman 66, Star Wars), upcoming releases (Alice Cooper by Spooky, American Pinball's second title), and industry announcements including Stern's Star Trek vault release and code updates for Batman and Iron Maiden.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Spooky Pinball's Alice Cooper machine is coming to the host's collection in early August — _Direct statement: 'hopefully mine will be around beginning of August'_
- [HIGH] Batman 66 Premium Edition is now one of the hosts' favorite machines to play, rivaling Star Wars — _Extended personal testimony about machine enjoyment and code quality from the new Batman acquisition_
- [HIGH] American Pinball's second game designer is Josh Kugler with coding help from someone named Ferret who previously worked on fixing alien pinball machines — _Direct industry report from This Week in Pinball podcast_
- [MEDIUM] American Pinball's second game may be Oktoberfest-themed with a family-friendly focus, potentially revealed at Pinball Expo — _Joe Balcer indicated timing and possibility without confirmation; hosts note it's not officially announced_
- [HIGH] Matt Scott is designing a second pinball game for Spooky Pinball — _Direct statement from This Week in Pinball reporting_
- [MEDIUM] David Teal (sound designer) is now exclusive to Deep Root Pinball — _Reported news with caveat that rumors persist about future Pat Lawlor collaboration_
- [HIGH] Stern's next vault release after Deadpool will be Star Trek with no changes to the distribution model — _Direct announcement discussion by hosts_
- [MEDIUM] Batman '66 Premium Edition code is being described as a 'masterpiece' in development — _Hosts' characterization of code quality; they credit The MOD Couple's mods as reason for acquisition_

### Notable Quotes

> "I love my beautiful mods and the code is supposed to be it's being defined as a masterpiece right now"
> — **Zach Minney**, ~38:00
> _Indicates high quality expectations for Batman 66 code and validates the home collector mod community's influence on game appeal_

> "these shows have to credit Marco's... because I think that that is added well what's cool is they come in and they work with flipping out pinball"
> — **Jon Hey**, ~12:00
> _Acknowledges the importance of distributor partnerships in expo success and game availability_

> "I want to be truthful to you all... I'm enjoying the out of both of those games"
> — **Zach Minney**, ~31:00
> _Demonstrates candid reassessment of previously disliked machines (Batman 66, Star Wars) after extended play_

> "it's so integral that I don't like losing control because of a controlled shot every time"
> — **Jon Hey**, ~43:00
> _Identifies consistent design criticism of Spooky Pinball games regarding the scoop mechanic_

> "I'm more fun you're more work... I would rather play a little more pinball than talk more about pinball"
> — **Zach Minney**, ~18:00
> _Reveals personal philosophy driving podcast participation and explains reluctance to join additional projects_

> "people are holding them right now [used Guardians machines]"
> — **Greg Bone**, ~27:00
> _Indicates secondary market dynamics and collector behavior around in-demand machines_

> "I think homeboy could buy Sam Stern pinball... that would be very interesting why not"
> — **Jon Hey**, ~65:00
> _Speculation about Christopher Franchi's potential career trajectory and financial success as designer/artist_

> "the only thing that makes sense is from here to rumored Deadpool there's gonna be Pride Pinball a little bit of time why not throw it online"
> — **Zach Minney**, ~51:00
> _Explains Stern's vault strategy reasoning and production scheduling logic_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Zach Minney | person | Co-host of Straight Down the Middle podcast; pinball collector and player |
| Greg Bone | person | Co-host of Straight Down the Middle podcast; works at Flippin' Out Pinball distributor |
| Jon Hey | person | Mentioned as person at show; appears to be co-host or regular guest |
| Straight Down the Middle: a pinball show | media | YouTube/podcast series featuring pinball content, now in episode 63 as of June 2018 |
| Charlie Emery | person | Associated with Spooky Pinball (referenced as speaking with hosts about Alice Cooper) |
| Bug | person | Associated with Spooky Pinball; discussed in context of Alice Cooper game |
| Matt Scott | person | Code/rules designer at Spooky Pinball; working on second pinball game; also reported as one of Spooky's biggest sellers |
| Josh Kugler | person | Software programmer/code designer for American Pinball's second game |
| Joe Balcer | person | Associated with American Pinball; provided information on second game development |
| Christopher Franchi | person | Artist/designer working with Stern; hosts speculate on his potential independent ventures |
| David Teal | person | Sound designer now exclusive to Deep Root Pinball; previously worked on multiple titles |
| Fred Marco | person | Associated with Marco Specialties; had booth at Southern Fried with various pinball machines |
| Zach Sharp | person | Pinball player; mentioned as reference point and competitive player; scored 3.5 billion on Kings |
| Southern Fried Game Room Pinball Expo | event | Pinball expo held in Atlanta in early June 2018 (approximate dates 8th-10th) |
| Spooky Pinball | company | Pinball manufacturer; working on Alice Cooper and Matt Scott's second title |
| American Pinball | company | Manufacturer developing second game with Josh Kugler and Ferret |
| Deep Root Pinball | company | Company with exclusive arrangement with sound designer David Teal |
| Stern Pinball | company | Announced Star Trek vault release with no distribution changes; has Batman and Iron Maiden code updates |
| Flippin' Out Pinball | company | Distributor/retailer with booth at expos featuring rare machines |
| The MOD Couple | company | Mod/accessory company creating upgrades for pinball machines (especially Batman 66) |
| This Week in Pinball | media | Pinball news podcast; reported on American Pinball developments and industry news |
| Pinball Expo | event | Annual pinball convention where hosts expect American Pinball second game reveal |
| Alice Cooper (Spooky Pinball) | game | Upcoming Spooky machine arriving early August; praised for shooting quality despite tight shots |
| Batman 66 | game | Premium Edition recently acquired by host; now considered personal favorite; praised for code and mods |
| Star Wars | game | Premium Edition acquired by host as trade bait/experiment; became surprise favorite machine |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Southern Fried Game Room Expo experience and impressions, New game acquisitions (Batman 66, Star Wars) and machine satisfaction, Upcoming pinball releases (Alice Cooper, American Pinball second game), Stern vault strategy and Star Trek announcement
- **Secondary:** Code updates and game design quality (Batman, Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper), Pinball media ecosystem and podcast landscape, Distributor partnerships and their role in expo success
- **Mentioned:** Secondary market dynamics for machines like Guardians

### Sentiment

**Positive** (0.78) — Hosts express enthusiasm about new acquisitions, upcoming games, and industry developments. Some minor criticisms about specific design choices (Spooky scoop mechanics, Stern distribution strategy) but overall the tone is celebratory about the state of pinball manufacturing and their personal collection activities.

### Signals

- **[community_signal]** Distributor partnerships (Flippin' Out, Marco Specialties) recognized as critical to expo success; hosts explicitly credit them for enabling access to rare machines (confidence: high) — Extended discussion of distributor role at Southern Fried: 'these shows have to credit Marco's' and appreciation for streaming permissions and venue partnerships
- **[sentiment_shift]** Hosts report receiving criticism on podcast about not being competitive pinball players, but defend their skill level by referencing tournament victories (confidence: high) — Jon: 'people saying SDTM don't know how to play pinball... we're good enough to kick Buffalo and pinball undesirables ass'
- **[design_philosophy]** Jon Hey identifies consistent design issue across Spooky Pinball games: overly strong scoop mechanic that causes loss of ball control on what should be a controlled shot (confidence: high) — Extended discussion about Alice Cooper's scoop behavior: 'it's so integral that I don't like losing control because of a controlled shot every time'
- **[licensing_signal]** American Pinball prioritizing family-friendly theming (even if Oktoberfest-related) because 'that's not what this company is about' in terms of alcohol-focused content (confidence: medium) — Joe Balcer quote: 'we want to make it family-friendly so it wouldn't just be alcohol because that's not what this company is about'
- **[market_signal]** Secondary market shows collector holding behavior on Guardians machines; hosts unable to find used inventory despite desire to acquire (confidence: high) — Greg states: 'people are holding them right now... I've been looking for a used one and just could not find anything'
- **[community_signal]** Christopher Franchi (artist at Stern) generating speculation about potential independent ventures or acquisition of major manufacturer based on talent/reputation (confidence: low) — Hosts speculating: 'I think homeboy could buy Sam Stern pinball... that would be very interesting why not'
- **[personnel_signal]** Ferret (previously worked fixing code on alien pinball machines) joined American Pinball to assist Josh Kugler with code development on second game (confidence: medium) — This Week in Pinball reporting via hosts: 'they did get a guy... Ferret was the one that was fixing all the code for alien pinball machines'
- **[announcement]** Stern Pinball announcing Star Trek as next vault title with no changes to distribution model, implying existing inventory pressure (confidence: high) — Hosts discuss: 'Star Trek and there's no changes there still distributors with new inbox once funny way'
- **[product_strategy]** Spooky Pinball machines feature strong scoop mechanics that are integral to gameplay but create uncontrollable ball routing issues - consistent across multiple titles (Alice Cooper, others) (confidence: high) — Discussion of scoop as design pattern: 'it's so integral that I don't know the scoop just is always so strong'
- **[product_strategy]** American Pinball's second game targeting Pinball Expo reveal (October); Papa Duke (John Papaduke) potentially involved in future Stern title with November-January release window (confidence: medium) — Joe Balcer indication of timing; Papa Duke working with Stern on Kapow title 'November to January release'
- **[sentiment_shift]** Zach Minney significantly revised his assessment of Batman 66 and Star Wars machines upward after extended ownership/play, now considering both among personal favorites despite initial skepticism (confidence: high) — Detailed narrative about Batman 66 acquisition motivated by mods and code, Star Wars becoming first machine played before morning coffee; contrasts with previous negative sentiment
- **[business_signal]** Stern's vault strategy using Star Trek as filler between major releases (Deadpool) to maintain production line and employment; suggests intentional pacing (confidence: medium) — Zach's analysis: 'from here to rumored Deadpool there's gonna be [time] why not throw it online... if they get with a big vault they can't go at [full speed]'

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## Transcript

and an operator treat your pinball machine right by visiting Marco speck calm now let's kick this [ __ ] [Music] hey welcome guys this is Zack I hope you've been honing the bone lately because he's sitting right here next to me how's it going great yo what are these people watching what is this show straight down the middle pinball show you think there's any a pinball show for pinball people yeah do you think that there is uh there's a first time watcher out there always really yeah look if you're a first time watcher reach out to us because we want to know where in the hell you been for the last 60 some episodes it's got a lotta so dude that's a lot of video and editing my friends rollin like a French writer jokes a lot of outtakes if you guys don't watch the outtakes you're missing them go back binge watch the outtakes does that is uncut unfiltered sometimes like the Tina Turner's app in that one I had to fill all right well that one beer just left I know these guys go listen to the Buffalo guys all right so what do we this week we're gonna do this month in pinball done where we discuss all the happenings in pinball as of when we were recorded right yes so we're gonna discuss a lot of things we're gonna discuss pinball conventions we're gonna suss new games we're gonna discuss pinball cologne hey you know what before we begin Dave told me that that thing is selling surprisingly well congratulations mod couple he said yeah he was like honestly I thought it would it would be good promotional piece and people to enjoy it for the next year so he said it's not gonna make it past the next month or so it's so awesome people are buying it so you need to check to see if you can buy your new inbox but to me it supplies right it's like pinball shirts it's like pinball machines like I'm always looking for something you need it neat and decorative stuff that I can use and I like filling that niche I love heaven it's really cool so let's get into the news my friend I just went to Southern Fried game room Expo and that was in hot Lena and I went to KFC Houma Southern Fried Chicken oh did you really you're not a KFC guy or no I'm the least chicken uh well that's okay lazy though I don't like KFC really yeah they're famous Bowl now I like please do you guys know about that Bowl so they have fried chicken in it mashed potatoes gravy oh it's really good but I'm just the LEAs guys got a little bit more taste of the chicken and you know what like I'm really gonna probably make some people mad but I am touch up on your hot dog stuff oh my god speaking okay we could actually talk about that Wow because you talk about an explosion man people hated me because I said Iron Maiden theme was [ __ ] and then I said ketchup on your hot dog never had a more popular like thread or comment Oh as mustard in ketchup it has crossed every podcast it's a thing now there's like Emmett Oh like all these like big pinball other people like like like two shits about us are commenting on the kitchen you know Esther you know here's that here's the truth without being cute or anything I was raised in the country and stuff so yeah I didn't know any different Leigh I didn't know this was a thing I just thought everybody ain't ketchup on their hot dogs I've used to as a kid but I just developed a taste for mustard yeah I just yeah people are like you're for Zach and I like mac and cheese and chicken nuggets - they're probably from the eclectic gamers podcast give me a hard time about that Oh before we talk about southern-fried I was recently on their podcast so go check it out I don't know what episode it was I think it was exactly has to listen to yet I'm surprised so I actually had time this morning but I chose not to and I listened to urine jeff's new podcast this week applause we confess right and I listened to I was like dammit there was another podcast I was supposed to listen to and I couldn't think of it at all another on my way home own I have to listen to it they it was it was pretty good I had some hot takes against me Dennis uh we we battled I can't right there debated you said it went very well and I can't do anything without Greg bone without him still being thrown in my face we started the this weekend pinball podcast with Jeff Patterson and myself just discussing news every week and the comments so far awesome everybody's saying this thing is cool I love that there's a win till the end get better the more comfortable you guys absolutely bud get better prabha the fourth of the comments are like yeah it's good but there's no bone like what leave him out of this all right tell the people did you you were your full of pinball stuff right no you're not really ready to jump into another pod oh yeah I just couldn't you know there becomes and I hate to say this and I don't know maybe I shouldn't say publicly who knows Oh edited it's not but like you know it's just there is so much time and work that goes into this that it's unbelievable and the travel and everything else and again it's my busy season we're both very busy with family and work both of us just honestly it's another one of those things that you guys can hate me for and you can actually loves that for exactly exactly yeah you you've got a little bit more passion actually a lot more passion more passion and drive well if that's true then what I do I have a my goal in pinball is yeah you're looking to have fun well yes I'm more fun you're more work I would like to make this a career or something yeah let's Jim you're more work I'm more fun so so you you thrive and you you go for that no whereas me it's another thing on my plate that keeps me from playing pinball that's right and I would rather play a little more pinball than talk more about pinball can we love you on here though Greg mommy out we love you on here I hate you most the time on here but most of the people love you anyway you know what oh my god southern-fried gamer and we're gonna segue right into that and the most important thing to happen of southern-fried game room I had a nice guy that came up to me by the name of insert his name because I forgot I'm sorry I love you still but you came out to me and he said hey I just wanna let you know I love the show and guess what I'm team Zach oh there's always one person there I said you know what there's few of us out there there's like 10,000 people you're gonna follow yeah so he and I hung out we played an Alice Cooper together and stuff but yeah you don't have to be a photographer to take a good photo if you take a thousand that is that's so true that's not the best analogy ever dude really so southern-fried game room Expo took place at the beginning of June here I don't know the exact day something was like the 8th through the 10th blur so it was in Atlanta yeah no I didn't get ripped or anything I was fine oh good but there is some things that I really loved about this Expo there were some things that people are talking about that I really didn't like it all but overall the best time was with friends they're always playing the new games hanging out with Lariat flipping out pinball he had he had the games that nobody had they're like Pirates of the Caribbean attacked from Mars he had Houdini he had dialed in they were yes he had like the booth a news read by Marco with all the interns it was cool man played a lot of games that I never play I don't lose it out of the water they do or when they do it like like I I honestly think that these shows have to credit Marcos oh yeah because I think that that is added well what's cool is they come in and they work with flipping out pinball yes they're like when like in Nashville their one point long yes they partner up and honestly like you said like Larry bringing that Larry has become a very big player in the expo the jjp America in the framing I agree he's the place to go yeah I think so if you see those guys are you running the Marko's guys our next show you running late flipping out thank them they're so nice to all over they are there they let people stream it they're like writes see it's crazy so that's the most fun of the show yeah there were some pins I'd like to see I didn't see there are some rules Bingham let me tell you that I didn't really think out there [ __ ] ology ever know are you better you better you better cut you off yeah you better okay I'm gonna go to happier stuff you guys go as long as you still got it up check out and bond Desirables and watch my man Zach Minnie throw up the sickest freaking score that that you have ever seen on what game I'm King pen it was blue as you get to watch kingpin yes now Steven is a little [ __ ] talker yeah he is a little grimy [ __ ] even didn't talk after this Bukka game try to ignore it he was trying to talk the ride he was like I don't know faster blows he took that big-ass obnoxious beer that he's always saying I can't drink and I can't yeah and he was just swinging on yeah so the first match was us kicking Buffalo pinball's ass the second we just obliterated and Boland Desirables so people talk smack I just heard on a path cast this last week people saying SDTM don't know how to play pinball no [ __ ] I'll talk to you later oh really yes I've heard this but guess what we're good enough to kick Buffalo and uh pinball undesirables ass okay that's the one one we got beat the Buffalo no we didn't we kick their ass and tank from Mars the plane pinball synchronized swimming nice job nice plan because Kevin even told me that they that they they practice it never practice just we like playing pinball we don't play plane split flipper crap okay nothing what we are good players like we're not we have thrown us some six scores Liam yeah I put up 3.5 billion on Kings yeah and I think Stephen what you I think there's more you camera accomplished what we have on ghostbusters right very much some video - yes all right so so let's move into Alice Cooper I can't wait here Helen yeah Alice Cooper no not that I'm talking about that whoever mapped is about we can't play no damn pinball no I think that's just the general consensus oh my god those guys aren't saying I'm not I can't play particularly ass it was saying you know who you are out there but Alice Cooper so I talked to Charlie yes talk to Denise II talked to bug Katie yeah why are they so fun and cool very much they are they're awesome talk to them guess who Esther's by an Alice Cooper you yeah I was shocked Alice Cooper's come I'm a very shot yeah so I've got I've got an earlier one too so we're gonna we're playing else did you buy we're planning on doing something special with that we'll get to that later I'll get to that later so guess what's leaving I made I did give it to the beast and the Beast is getting hauled out into a truck to somebody else's hapless iron maidens leave it I can't get rid of Star Wars yet I can't either yeah I've won so guys I uh I ran into like this isn't even news this is just us talking it's not what's going on what's going on in the world it's our news what's going on in the world best ETF why not like I uh I wanted a Guardians okay and I don't want to buy a new box I want a Guardians yes when it's so bad me saying this probably make more people bite make even harder for me to find it yes but the new code is is I like it it's good solid so I've been looking for a used one and just could not find anything I can't find anything so people are holding them right now yes Zack had a good friend who had a Star Wars for sale and Zacks a manager Star Wars Pro why don't you think about that and it was a it was a good price which Pro that's what I thought too I was like man I still where's pearl every time I played it at a show you know you don't have your Hyperloop you know you don't have the Death Star that opens up like this or but does it have everything else yeah yeah Coatesville isn't so the more I thought about rapid the city yeah I was like you know what I could use it for maybe trade bait you pulled the trigger on authority horse bro so I drove and I picked up a Star Wars Pro and you know how I hate the drive yes and I took I didn't take the wrong way but I took the short way but through the country got behind tractors all kinds of the [ __ ] it was so furious awesome get their load the pinup yeah drive 25 minutes towards home forgot the coin box ah which I wouldn't have cared I wouldn't care if there was balls in there but the power that's such a bone yes so I had to turn back around which added like another you know forty minutes round trip to my damn time so sup your is but this is this is a very little issue to most of you guys oh it's good gray is like this is a setback I've been hearing about for a weekend it's devastating but this is my point is is your bat I've I'm blown away by that pen I know I thought yes I will I will completely admit it because that was telling me when you hate since he's had this premium and I thought that's got a screw loose every now and then and I was thinking you just flush its act like it's just something new and you're just you're you're blowing is Star Wars yes no you're blowing it out of the water but I got this pin not since Star Trek if I woke the first thing in the morning before a cup of coffee and had to go to the basement and play Wow and that's what this pin does in my point being for this whole long story about this [ __ ] pin that was a lot we have hated Cena crew is how amazing is it that the two pins that were [ __ ] on the most in the last couple of years last by us by us fairly admit it at man 66 and Star Wars has become two of my favorite pins to shoot and play now I hate to say it but I want to be truthful to you all yeah because I'm enjoying the [ __ ] out of both of those games and guess what else happened this is the other pity boyhood so Iron Maiden's gotta go I got rid of I forgot what I move its replacement exact no Wizard of Oz is leaving home ego me my home ego me I bought a new inbox Batman 66 premium I'm freaking stoked about it and I've already started by it's sick though man like I called Dave at the mod couple and I was like look your stupid mods are the reason I want this game and the code is why I want this game so I got his mods coming in and darzee's mods I've got a topper I've got side blades I've got stupid armor coming for this damn thing this is the thing like what we've talked about a hundred times about like what's so great about pinball it just code different things can happen that will completely change a pin or you own it in a home setting and you know what I'm still not sold on it I'm a yeah yeah I'm still not sold on but it's beautiful my boyfriend she did the artwork yeah and it's got mods out of the yin-yang I love my beautiful mods and the code is supposed to be it's being defined as a masterpiece right now Greg Wow a masterpiece so I owe it to myself to try it out again yeah for you guys for you and you know it deserves to be in the small collection again I agree I agree with you I'm not like I would maybe hold my tongue a little bit if I did enjoy both those games so much but I just I like want to shout it from the rooftops I love them Alice Cooper shot well yes everybody's shooting on the way this thing shoots no no no you guys'd she's good put my hands up she's gone now then again I thought Houdini shot good - yeah Houdini's a monster to play it's mean it's hard it shoots yeah Steven bowed and said the shots are tight but findable yeah uh but Alice Cooper no I think it's unique the layout so you don't get the brick psyche or do you get the bricks you've got posts okay but I don't think they're hard to miss like if I'm aiming for the center shot Oh like fun if I'm aiming for the Orbis there really says do you think it's just one of those pins that you did this not just like the shots aren't so easy that when you first step up yours hitting shots oh you think it's something just finding the shots a little bit there are posts and so teams stainable targets okay so there's a lot of shots and you're gonna get nothing for ya so I get that I get that but it's don't lay up now the rules are bare right now yeah I couldn't hear it I couldn't I don't know what I was playing but just shooting it I had fun the game is gorgeous the only thing I don't like about spooky games and they just it shows up on every spooky game as a team scoop hey I don't know the scoop just is always so strong yeah you're losing control because of the scoop and is so integral to all of the integral in true goal okay it's so integral I can't say it in inter integral in skip it just skip it just skip it it's so needed for so what's another word for interval meaningful yeah required required such a requirement for most of these spooky games good recover yeah yeah professional yeah you're right I am a professional speaker - it's a hell of a nuclear nuclear hello in this to happen so it's so important that I don't like losing control because of a controlled shot every time yes so I'm gonna have to see if that thing is tuned in but I was talking to Charlie hopefully mine will be around beginning of August so you're on very long I'm in the beginning from the life I had a buddy that was in line because there's a he's bought all the spooky games and she contacted me said hey something's come up I'm not gonna be able to buy this do you want my spot and I said yeah it's taken aback by that one to get two pairs of robbing me away so we got some new pins coming to SDT yeah moving along see we talked about kingpin that game still fun yeah it's still fun it look good yeah it's just shoots wonderfully well I say that I'm still not sold on it to me it looks very dated wait until the 2.0 comes up the new contemporary code so I mean with the full screen LCD so yes I'm excited about I'm excited about it she it shoots really well the ramps are so fun to hit back and forth with the spinner the orbits are a lot of fun looks like it's controllable because watch a stream honestly go to a pinball undesirable which you can watch the the gameplay again or he might put it up on YouTube but I mean I was hitting the shops yeah they were easy did I'll see if I can clip my boys that dominating yeah thanks that thank you thank you I played Iron Maiden premium yeah how'd you like that same money now for some reason marco had all their machines the back legs on the ground hmm which I don't get it well and maybe could be because sometimes the power in those places Oh DRAM to money get a human a flippers aren't gonna make a lot so it shoot great at the booth I think that was just a show thing yeah but no I those mechanisms really like that captive Bowl not that great yeah didn't really do any the head detecting captive bolts yeah guess what you can hit detect the switch to like yeah I'm really do anything but you the rapist cool it's one of those of those double-edged sword things because we bitched before buzz dark I don't like two different games well like I like my pro to be the same game as a preview would like the but at the same time sometimes we [ __ ] yeah but there's nothing really separates it so make anything happy no but it's a it's no well I think I think with the different so the pro here same stuff but the pro has the the white lights everywhere oh yeah the premium GI is color so that makes it even darker I just felt like it overhead lights and stuff it was just really dark huh so I don't know another plug for pins you a dark game did you know that uh Penn Stadium Scott said that that has been that and Wizard of Oz have been like his biggest sellers o ruler made I guess he was 100 percent yeah he said that's my biggest sellers I thought it'd look good on Houdini in your Guardians day like that that was a game changer especially Houdini yeah beanies not incredibly dark but the purple yes beautiful yeah so let's move on Pirates of the Caribbean was there and they were flipping out played it guess what did you have the single disc or was an else those are still old maple yeah I don't think they know how the guess what still awesome it's still awesome I love it yeah and then I just wanted to know how that the single wheel what your thoughts were on that I wish that was there I don't know if they just had one wheel spinning mad and out I see I made to say I had painted it's still awesome it's so hot it's so fun to shoot so fun to shoot and then the the craziest thing is southern-fried do you know the special thing at southern-fried I get a clip of it Oh check this out maybe the hot sauce thing not the hot sauce I mean check this out [Music] yeah so wrestling aha Oh toes from the wrestler my poor wife was like she's never seen that stuff before no way because this big event like push like Indiana in the country was the first time we've seen live reps you've never seen like it's like crazy home down wrestling you really you really think I'm gonna go see risk I mean come on make fun of those people I'm adorable but I've ran into it before no and it was kind of interesting it's interesting so my wife was like I'm kind of embarrassed sitting here so he left but yeah I had to get that video for you guys cuz it was and guess what that room needed some new inbox Cologne oh very bad smell arrest lazarey bet okay so let's move on to stern announcing their next vault is it Lord of the Rings oh is it the is it Ron no no what is it it's a Star Trek Star Trek and there's no changes there still distributors with new inbox once funny way like yeah no changes no changes like I don't understand it yeah it's money move how is that a money move if there's distributor set when there's there are people I know at least an example some people want the premium yeah the cream yes he needs a pretty machine it is yeah I wouldn't know I would Ellie or Pro no I I don't get it either but the only thing that makes sense is from here to rumored Deadpool there's gonna be pride a little bit of time why not throw it online put a couple hundred back on the line cuz if they get with a big vault they can't go at Iran right now or Lord Han it's a nice yeah they need a little filler yeah if it keeps people employed and it keeps the line movement that's right that's all like a business it's another most things that we've talked we're not behind those but they know Star Trek is so good it is very good yeah I'm not knocking the game give it some love yeah I'd given it an LCD which you're not gonna do so i wreath aiming it to the old the old television show oh I'm sure no Shatner that'd be awesome I'd like to new that we do the art we do the art that's what you guys got yelled at Stern last time for having all that Chris Pine stuff on there just put the enterprise on there redo the are you all right wouldn't know what's on the pre is it though there the whole thing is for Justin that's like that's the ship it does I agree to get all those characters and you know that license doesn't care no I'm not like I do something different give us some agrees release it with the color deem D or something Oh star trek putting you to sleep of news I do love that game so go sir we need better volts Batman's got new code 0.92 crank you know code like create padded yeah they added minor villains yeah and that's just a point oh one change yeah I'd hate to see what this thing's gonna look like it won't don't know it's exciting I'm dying it's a good game I can't wait til you get yours in play it I'm maiden completed code one point zero zero now I think they'll keep on tweaking and tentative and then all things vary but they've got a secret super skill shot now oh really yeah well there's a lot of Secrets like I mean there's a lot of secret super wizard may also say he likes the little secrets I like that too I do too so we got that job all sir I forgot what show he was at this past weekend the weekend before he was talking about game number two for American pinball he is designing okay Josh Kubler is doing Co nice now they did get a guy by the name of Fahrenheit it's weird I know ferret join the group and a ferret was the one that was fixing all the code for alien pinball machines by all by himself yeah so they pulled him in so he's gonna be helping Josh Kugler code I think nice so they're gonna have a coding powerhouse so do you think Jude knows that with somebody helping Kugler on the code and everything do you think that they're looking for another Expo reveal that's was that's what Balcer said it could be an extra Expo reveal and when people said hey Joey hey we know it's over fest that was a German oh my god what was that was an SNL that's get with the Cubs guys like I dogs nobody likes ketchup underdog see you so he said I wasn't I'm not going to say whether it is or isn't Oktoberfest but if it is something like that there's a lot of ways to go on that type of thing that is a festival he said we want to make it family-friendly so it wouldn't just be alcohol he said because that's not what this company is about yeah so it's interesting it's till seems pretty strong that that's what it is absolutely absolutely alright joke cami cow yeah he said his next work with Stern as a Kapow title yeah is gonna be November to January release so we might see an expo we might see an expo reveal of cam and cows man title that's Clint he also said at this show reports and this is all coming from this weekend pinball who are we joking but he also said that he has helped with another title that's gonna be a released I don't know if it's around the same time as well in the way maybe helping my secure nice title and I would the yeah with the theming and things like that so nice yeah and then that's a stern that's they help with Christopher fridge she said on slay until podcast that he sees Joachim Inc out doing something even bigger in pen yeah possibly his own in he's done before that's a lot to take on a mic like when I was I think you Jeff yeah I kind of carried that same sentiment of life this is a making sense do you why would you really branch out to take all that risk I think homeboy could buy stern pinball I heard you saying that would be they'd be interesting why not be very interesting why not all right let's move on to Scott didn't easy hello he's doing his second pin I should have seen this week at max he's doing a second pin with spooky pinball nice now the real question is I think a poll should go up will his new game have ramps or no ramps I don't know here's my concern it's nothing at all against God it's nothing at all against Keith and then here comes something against God and what it is but it's not it lmq pelipper okay a the this is my only thought my only concern it's a strong tape coming from no it's not strong take it off sake it's it's soft it's not as bad but it always worries me when you've got a new designer or somebody like that especially when they're one of us kind of designer per se didn't do that start out as yeah yes in engineering or Denise the damn engineer well yeah this very he's got all the pedigree to be a designer oh very much so very much so new designer new designer is and you work for so long on one pan absolutely it's like it's like a musician a one-hit wonder and I'm not saying they're gonna be one-hit wonder I'm saying that that's the that's what sets in the back of mine the first album sometimes it's better than this Center than anything else because you've worked for years on that album developing and tweaking and then you've got the bean counters coming in there second thing they say come on guys yes exactly so now you're pushed to stop being cute you want to see a title the thoughts don't flow like they did it wasn't that thing that's it bottled inside now I don't know Denise yeah that's all I think it's nothing all against those guys by any means but that has the ability to make it even better cuz maybe the first time around when they were making him they didn't think anything of it very true and now they're like you know what I wish I would have done this all the time it's very much Trudy Feldman did say in a recent interview I think head to head guys interviewed him he said that that he made Archer that's kind of his resume to be yeah I heard that surprised the hell out of me it did me too I did I thought he was just doing for the love of it just let make his own game he was gonna push it yeah yeah which is good for him though me and I'm glad he actually got on there Scott Denis see I kind of fell in love with your TNA this last weekend I wasn't like the biggest hugest fan of that first thing Zac said to me when he came in love with it I get to just reactor three I think blast yeah it still felt good so we'll review that here soon I know we've been saying it David Thiel is exclusive to deep root now now what does that mean we've got the best sound into here and make it an exclusive yeah that's nasty now the rumors were that he was still gonna work on a Pat Lawler pin to be announced in the future so I don't know where that stings yes but right now he's deep rude only cuz though there's no way that made any progress or me what is it damn fruit got going on man I don't know I hope something what a big glass we know they're gonna sound good yeah I loved he'll was like looking at pictures I just think I was talking to him it uh hello him I was talking to him it Texas pinball festival I swear to God I looked down my watch 45 minutes have gone by and I was like oh my god I guess guys folded talking this guy all right we have got to give a shout out before we leave here to our boy Chuck work oh and the newest show to grace our presence in the falls winter December December check this a December November just no that was November November December something like it I'm sorry Chuck sorry Chuck uh we're pointing everybody into the direction of Pinson attic yes the greatest pinball festival of all time no yeah Chuck I know your brother I get all the emails and everything these guys were working our way today they want this show like there's an ashen behind they're thinking a lot about that tournament yes there's gonna be a competitive players place to go there Blair being very friendly they're very the them getting games in there and getting dough to bring vendors as vendors and everything they're working very hard and trying to treat them very fair and be very good to them like like I meant the way that I'm seeing things now the guys have really got their [ __ ] together and are really it's a nice centralized location I think so the Midwest yeah very much so because you got Louisville this spread out enough timelines come Pennsylvania a little easier for people yeah I love it yeah Akron Cleveland people are gonna love it yeah we've got are you from Indy and stuff how far is that that's good it's not bad across not bad all you got Tennessee people they're gonna love Alabama people even northern Alabama yeah you got the Virginia's Carolinas yeah probably open up to that because there's really nothing checkout Penson addy tickets are on sale now please go support Chuck War SD team's favorite guy and part of the team yeah so if you help Chuck Ward and pin Santa you're kind of indirectly helping straight down the middle pin box I'm sure we're gonna do some fun stuff very much with that show so don't do that last shot I don't want to give us to this got missed in the emails a couple months ago so I apologize but I did just recently found out I was like crap I feel bad I know I try to remember to put it in my nose oh my god so I want to give a shout out to he just said AFG he called us the multiball brothers which I like that but he's a dedicated fan of the YouTube show he admires our efforts to grow the pinball community thank you he's been a public location player and more recently a multiplayer I'm not sure what that means but I want to be a multiplayer don't you want to be a multiplayer to played multis he wants us to give a shout out to his hometown venues Phoenix and the flipper room in Concord California the East Bay pinball League which I want to look those up yeah a frame or something he said the guys and gals that operate them are some of the coolest people ever to meet all about introducing new people to the game of pinball it's on their behalf that I would ask to share the word so we happily happily do that AFG looking forward to the maiden gameplay it's about to leave from the hills of the San Francisco East Bay you know what and I think when you have a location that you love and you've got good people running that location adds to the pinball experience so much do you want to shout out for your hometown group of pinball people child sir sends a picture we want to see a picture yes yes send the picture send it with the name so we can post out there help spread the love so that's what we're gonna do from here on that if you guys have a cool pinball club that you're part of pose for a picture specifically for SDTM maybe do something creative like the s the deeds of the T that yeah the funny faces maybe do your favorite Greg bone we want to see a picture you guys so send them in here and we'll show you on subsequent videos we're gonna show you guys all the coolest pinball people around the world at local venues okay I love it so until next week Greg I'll love you buddy sayonara [Music] there's a bird in my backyard that I can't identify a bird yeah okay I just can't identify I can identify most birds and animals like identified some rays and stuff like I enjoy that shark sauce shark last year identified that shark easily cannot identify this little bastard bird that's been hanging out in my backyard yeah identify all of the all of the dinosaurs on Jurassic Park yeah but they're kind of not necessarily accurate well what's this bird look like he's very smooth he's gonna read it like me he's got a red head like Jeff Telles yeah I guess he's it's got like a red head it's but it's a deep red hmm Annie but he's got a really dark brown body and he's got very smooth feathers and the only thing I thought was even close to it was a house Spanish hmm and I don't know like I don't know I've looked up some woodpeckers I can't find any wooden sounds like a woodpecker it sounds like a what babe it's a spit Appetit bird like a Finch like maybe he's not big like a Robin and I know a lot of woodpeckers are small but I couldn't even find like it didn't match in you the the woodpecker woodpecker on speed I don't know well you get a little variance between male and female but oh yeah prettier birds are male yeah generally yeah cuz they got a we're gonna bird would you be good smells like it kind of fits I just picture cockatoo laying on his back with a couple beers what's your favorite bird what like this is a normal question I like the penguin no dude I do like the penguin my Birds very big you know what the barn owl of nature of a barn owl like all I'd like to think I was a loud owl wise I don't sleep right I'm always seeing who's gum just on my back I can see you being a man and I love taking out vermin pinball vermin what would you be I'm a now it's not what I'm a bar now I told you I'd be I [ __ ] Google cockatoo in an owl that's my favorite bird right there it's an American Robin Oh would you like them I like the Robin oh I hate morning doves no then little bastards I had one that was uh that nested in my tree yeah and it would peck nests oh yeah like it would hit for a whole year love them I love American Robins I hate them you know what I love the blue capitated a bird one time oh my god by accident it's a mourning dove and that's why I hate them like they're the ones they look like pigeons yeah but they don't like the dumb bastards don't want to fly like you can chase some versions later yeah so I chased it up on top of my shed and I was waving like a two-by-two stick at it trying to like get off my shed get off my shepherd yeah off of my freakin your kids awesome I feel so vex I don't like to see things Donner I don't either and so it's like and I was just trying to wave him off I mean you know that's just like the Blue Jay Blue Jays a beautiful ooh Jays such I'd it's a beautiful I like it better a cardinal I do too yeah absolutely I even like watching hummingbirds Oh little bumblebee bastard I put out honey bird feeder hey they'll set right Bobby like it's close really kind of fits my butt the meaner I guess that is so does

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