# Pinball Junk Drawer Episode 99 - Whopper Chopper Fo Fopper Fi Fie Fo Fopper Bopper?

**Source:** Poor Man's Pinball Podcast  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2026-06-03  
**Duration:** 33m 16s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://poormanspinballpodcast.libsyn.com/pinball-junk-drawer-episode-99-whopper-chopper-fo-fopper-fi-fie-fo-fopper-bopper

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## Analysis

The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast discusses their experience at the Whopper Chopper tournament in Wisconsin, covering Ladies Flip side events, tournament mechanics, competitive player observations, and venue play data from Lumberjack Johnnies. Hosts reflect on learning opportunities from watching skilled players and share upcoming plans for their 100th episode.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Ladies Flip event at Kelly and Jeff's house had 17 players, 4 new players, and raised approximately $300 for Blood Cancer United — _Craftproof Sally describing Kelly's Flipper Fiesta event_
- [HIGH] Whopper Chopper tournament was held the week before Worlds in De Pere, bringing in high-level competitive players — _Host discussion of tournament timing and attendance_
- [MEDIUM] A Kong player at Whopper Chopper scored over 2 billion points and may have exploited score mechanics, with the game's high score over 6 billion — _Scorekeeper observations during tournament_
- [HIGH] Lumberjack Johnnies has two Pokemon machines while only one Beetlejuice machine, giving Pokemon an advantage in play statistics — _Venue play statistics segment_
- [HIGH] The hosts are planning merchandise for Pinball Expo including iron-on transfers, stickers, and possibly t-shirts at approximately $18 — _Merchandising discussion for upcoming Expo in October_

### Notable Quotes

> "When you look at the entire timeline of pinball, we are in a very strange place right now. Not only, I think more and more in this time period they're being made for deep code because like 60 to 80 percent of them are landing in people's basements"
> — **Falkor Leghorn**, Mid-episode design philosophy segment
> _Reflects on how modern pinball games are designed for home collections rather than operator quarters, marking a paradigm shift from classic arcade pinball_

> "If you're playing against a guy who has pinball in his shoes, you might be in for a tough one"
> — **Craftproof Sally**, Tournament observation segment
> _Humorous observation about competitive player dedication and gear preparation_

> "There's always so much to learn. And there's always so much to do. It's not – you can just walk up and just shoot at what's blinking. But there's so much in the world of pinball that you can like – skills you can learn and shots you can learn"
> — **Falkor Leghorn**, Closing reflections on pinball depth
> _Core philosophy about pinball's skill depth and learning curve_

> "I have been stopping and holding it more and I do it more. It is easier than I think"
> — **Craftproof Sally**, Shot control discussion
> _Demonstrates learning from watching competitive players and applying techniques_

> "Beetlejuice is either first or second when Pokemon is first or second. And there's two Pokemon machines and only one Beetlejuice machine"
> — **Falkor Leghorn**, Venue statistics segment
> _Analysis of how multiple machines of same IP affect venue play rankings_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Whopper Chopper | event | Multi-day pinball tournament held in Wisconsin the week before Worlds, featuring competitive and casual play modes |
| Lumberjack Johnnies | venue | Arcade venue in Wisconsin hosting Whopper Chopper tournament, featuring pinball and other games; sponsors of the podcast |
| Lumberjack Dave | person | Tournament organizer at Whopper Chopper who trained scorekeeper on app and owns/manages Lumberjack Johnnies; ordered a Yukon Yeti machine |
| Craftproof Sally | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; participated in Ladies Flip tournament, won side tournament on Cyclone, served as scorekeeper at Whopper Chopper |
| Falkor Leghorn | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; commentator and analyst of tournament observations and pinball philosophy |
| Raymond Davidson | person | Stern Pinball employee who attended Whopper Chopper event and recognized the podcast hosts |
| Kelly's Flipper Fiesta | event | Ladies-focused pinball tournament held approximately two weeks prior, organized at Kelly and Jeff's house with 17 players |
| Ladies Flip | organization | Women's pinball tournament organization that matched donations for Blood Cancer United |
| Bells and Chimes | organization | Women-focused pinball community group mentioned as collaborative and supportive |
| Rachel | person | Tournament player and advisor who provided shot control advice and beer recommendation; appears to be experienced competitive player |
| Dennis Creasel | person | Competition pinball player known for expertise; host considered asking about competitive headphone usage |
| Pokemon (Stern) | game | Pinball machine at Lumberjack Johnnies (2 units) that trades first/second place with Beetlejuice in venue play rankings |
| Beetlejuice (Stern) | game | Pinball machine at Lumberjack Johnnies that consistently ranks in top 2 plays with Pokemon |
| Black Knight Sword of Rage (Spooky) | game | Pinball machine at Lumberjack Johnnies, ranked third in play statistics |
| Led Zeppelin (Stern) | game | Pinball machine at Lumberjack Johnnies, ranked second from bottom in play statistics; noted as difficult game with open playfield |
| Whitewater (WMS) | game | Pinball machine at Lumberjack Johnnies, ranked lowest in play; Dave's unit noted as slanted/problematic |
| Ultraman (Stern) | game | Pinball machine at Lumberjack Johnnies, ranked third from bottom in play statistics |
| Grand Lizard (Gottlieb) | game | Classic wide-body pinball machine with double flippers and secondary playfield; featured at tournament |
| Gorgar (Williams) | game | Classic pinball machine featured at tournament, noted as designed for operator profit rather than deep play |
| Worlds | event | Major pinball tournament held in De Pere, Wisconsin; occurs week after Whopper Chopper |
| Fox Cities Pinball | venue | Venue streaming Worlds tournament; connected to Lumberjack Johnnies through sponsorship |
| Project Pinball | website | Online resource projectpinball.org mentioned for tournament info and raffles for new games |
| Emily | person | Operator/staff at Jay's Silver Ballroom arcade venue |
| Wilson | person | Staff member at Lumberjack Johnnies, known for friendliness toward podcast hosts |

### Signals

- **[event_signal]** Whopper Chopper uses multi-day format (Thursday registration, Friday/Saturday play, Sunday finals) with point-based scoring system (100 for high score, 90 for second, 85 for third, 1 point thereafter) allowing multiple attempts to improve scores (confidence: high) — Detailed explanation of tournament structure, registration process, and scoring mechanics by hosts
- **[competitive_signal]** High-level competitive players use consistent techniques: frequent shot holding/stopping, aggressive nudging and machine movement, headphone use for focus/music, and deliberate ball control rather than continuous play flow (confidence: high) — Multiple observations by scorekeeper watching finals: 'they held every shot', 'a lot of nudging', 'tilting machines on their sides', player with pinball shoes
- **[gameplay_signal]** Modern pinball (60-80% landing in home basements) designed for deep ruleset engagement, contrasting with classic era games designed for quick quarters and operator profit rather than extended play (confidence: high) — Host philosophy: 'made for an operator to take someone's quarter as quickly as possible' vs modern games landing in basements wanting 'deeper experience'
- **[community_signal]** Ladies Flip tournament (17 players, 4 new players) and Bells and Chimes organization demonstrate active women's pinball community with collaborative, supportive atmosphere (confidence: high) — Ladies Flip event details, $300 charitable donation, hosts' praise for community women: 'women involved in Ladies Flip and the Bells and Chimes are really, really great'
- **[venue_signal]** At Lumberjack Johnnies: Pokemon and Beetlejuice trade first/second place (two Pokemon machines vs one Beetlejuice), Black Knight Sword of Rage third, Led Zeppelin and Ultraman in bottom tier, Whitewater lowest despite being a classic title (confidence: high) — Specific play rankings provided from venue data: 'Pokemon is first or second when Beetlejuice is first or second', Whitewater 'rustiest axe in the pile'
- **[content_signal]** Poor Man's Pinball approaching episode 100 with plans for merchandise (stickers, t-shirts at ~$18, iron-on transfers, bottle openers) and Pinball Expo presence in October; seeking community input (confidence: high) — Host discussion of merchandising plans: 'next show is going to be our 100th show', t-shirt pricing ~$18, Expo timing 'October will be here before you know it'
- **[product_strategy]** Lumberjack Dave ordering Yukon Yeti machine to display alongside existing classic machine; suggests venue interest in adding new titles to rotation (confidence: medium) — Mention of Dave ordering 'Yukon Yeti' to place next to another machine
- **[market_signal]** Classic/wide-body machines (Grand Lizard, Gorgar, Whitewater) still in active tournament circulation; mechanical design differences (double flippers, center posts) creating specific play challenges for modern players (confidence: high) — Multiple classic machines featured at Whopper Chopper tournament; hosts discussing ball control differences on older machines
- **[sentiment_shift]** Hosts demonstrating openness to skill development after tournament observation; casual players gaining appreciation for competitive techniques and showing willingness to adapt play style (confidence: high) — Sally: 'I have been stopping and holding it more and I do it more. It is easier than I think'; 'I think I'm going to watch some players more often'
- **[operational_signal]** Whopper Chopper requires machine triage/maintenance during event; competitive players maintain focus despite venue noise and machine issues; scorekeeper app enables smooth tournament administration (confidence: high) — Discussion of machines 'going down' during tournament, scorekeeping app being 'really intuitive', 4-hour scorekeeper shifts
- **[rumor_hype]** Community waiting for Jersey Jack Pinball Sonic game announcement; teaser released during Transformers media event; generating speculative excitement (confidence: medium) — Host mention: 'I know we're all waiting for JJP to drop their Sonic game. Oh, yes. They put the teaser out there the day of the media event'
- **[personnel_signal]** Stern Pinball employee Raymond Davidson attending Whopper Chopper tournament and recognizing podcast hosts, suggesting active manufacturer engagement with community events (confidence: high) — Shout-out to Raymond Davidson: 'he actually knew who we were', 'he actually asked Lumberjack Dave if he would introduce us'

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## Transcript

Now who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person? I say, I say, I say, pay attention now boy, this is of course Foghorn Leghorn presents the Pinball Junk Drawer. You all asked for it, I say, you all asked for it now, you're gonna get it. And boy, oh boy, are you gonna get it. Go, I say, go away boy, you bother me. And we're back. The only pinball podcast that does not plan ahead. Like for show 100. Anyway, my name is Falkor Leghorn with me as always. Craftproof Sally. And I'm here to work on my podcast voice, which I've been told I have. Anyway, I thought I just talked the same, but I guess I do not. Crazy. Yeah. Anyway, this is a... I think your voice sounds different on even like when we would listen to our own like listen to ourselves on the. Yeah, you know, other shows. Yeah, not that the the TV show. Oh, yeah, it was for a lot of years. We had a television show on public access, which was, I guess, infamous, famous. I don't know what you want to say. It was it was different, but that was fun. Yeah, this is going to be all about the Whopper Chopper event. It's going to be a lot of stuff this week, I think. Wowzers. Yeah, because we didn't talk about the ladies' flip. Well, go ahead. Yeah. I wasn't there, so this is all you. Yeah, so like two months ago or something, not that long ago, it was like two weeks ago, there was a ladies' flip at Kelly and Jeff's house. It was the Kelly's Flipper Fiesta. There were 17 players, which was a great turnout. Yeah, right. And she had a nacho bar. Yeah. That's even more of a turnout right there. Yeah. Nacho bar. Yeah. There were four new players at it, which is really great to see the hobby growing. Yeah, that's cool. So they also did a side tournament for Blood Cancer United. Cool. And then Ladies Flip matched what they donated, so I think it was about $300 that was donated. And I won the side tournament with the high score. Wowzers. I was so excited. What game was that? It was on Cyclone. Oh, nice. Yeah. I forgot how much I liked that game. Yeah, it's a fun game. I like the whole trilogy to be honest with you. They have like the three, the hurricane, the cyclone, and comet. Oh, yeah. There was one of them, I forget which one it arrived, the hurricane. Yeah, it was one of them, that one little dingy arcade at this little going out of business yesterday strip mall down in Clearwater, Florida. That was the actual mall that they knocked down and put in a strip mall. That was so sad. Yeah. It was like the only thing in there, and I used to go down there and play. Every now and then and then it just went away. Yeah. Lots of things go away. Yep. That's cool. Right. Shout out to Raymond Davidson. Yes. Yeah. Very nice meeting a celebrity from Stern. Right. And he actually knew who we were. So that was exciting. That was exciting. He actually asked Lumberjack Dave if he would introduce us. That was very cool. That was fun. Yeah. He was up at the event up at the Wofford Shopper. This thing was a huge turnout. Yeah. I think being the week before Worlds up in De Pere, they brought in some real heavy hitters. This is some serious competition up there. Yeah. I think they did. I think they had a tournament yesterday at Glow in the Park also. Oh, really? Yeah, and a bunch of the people that are going to Worlds were there as well. Yeah. I mean, you can tell there's some real serious players. Yeah. The one dude had pinball shoes. Yes. And I was like, well, if you're playing against a guy who has pinball in his shoes, you might be in for a tough one. But it was interesting. I learned a lot. I didn't participate in the tournament, but I helped as a scorekeeper, which I don't think I did that before, but you seem to remember me doing that before. You did it when we were in Florida still at the asylum. Oh, okay. Yeah. I think it was just like you were there playing and they asked you to score rounds or something like that, I think. Okay, I was like, yeah, whatever. It was totally fine because you were up there playing in the tournament anyway. I was in the ladies' Whopper Chopper. Came in dead last. Well, you still participated. I did. It was interesting because as I was sitting there with the scorekeeping thing, it's like a kid in a candy store that you can't buy any candy. Generally speaking, I just play and play and play and play, so I was watching all this pinball and not being able to play. But that's okay. Okay, the first thing we do is Lumberjack Dave shows me how to use this magic scoring thing. It's an app and you just, whatever. It's really intuitive. It's not hard to learn, but when you never do something, you're like, okay. And I know how seriously people take stuff, so I'm kind of like, okay, I've got to pay attention. So he starts, I start at like 1 o'clock and there's this guy playing Kong and he played until like now. He's still playing that game. It's like, what in the, you know. It's like, you were like, waved me over and you're like, look at this guy's score. Yeah. He was at like 2 billion, I think. Yeah, it was like 2 billion. He'd been playing for literally 4 hours or 17, 3 days. Like when that energy went to that little tiny ball and then it was kaboom. And then it was the Big Bang. 13 seconds after the Big Bang, he started that game and now here we are and he was still playing that game. And I was like, wow. And then the astonishing thing was that wasn't the high score. No. I think the high score for that game was 6 billion. So crazy. Over 6 billion. There might be some score exploits. That's all I'm saying. I don't know. But so it was, and that's also, we're going to be talking, it's a lot of tournament talk, but this is also a lot of like observations not being a serious tournament player makes. So you had a good time. Yeah, I did. Yeah. These are, I think Lumberjack Johnnies has it set up to be kind of like, it's serious because it's a tournament, but it's also. It's fun for everybody. Take it easy. Yeah. We're all just having fun. Yeah. Because there's some real, real serious people. Yeah. And that's fine. That's their thing. So I get it. I'm not besmirching that. Yeah. But it's also, there's a lot of people just playing pinball and that's fine too. And that was me. That was you. Just playing pinball. And that's okay. Yeah. There were some games I never played before. Yeah. There was that. I don't think I ever played Grand Lizard before. You said we played it before, but I didn't remember it. I think that was like right where you check in at that desk at District 82. I want to say that was on the front row facing the desk. So I think I played that like once or twice while you were finalizing our transaction. Oh, yeah. Because I'm not going to stand there waiting to be allowed to play. I'm just going to go play. He's from Goal. Yeah. And also, I think it was down at that, like, Brewery 1 or something. What is it? District 1? Yeah, sure. I think that was one of the games that's in that row down there when we went to play the Rick and Morty tournament. Oh, yeah. So, those games are tough. Gorghar and that one are not friendly. No. They're of a different time. It was, what did I play? It was Gorgar Grand Lizard Pulp Fiction Pokemon and there was another one Eh Yeah Yeah Well I will say there is a distinct Oh, Batman 66. There you go. Sorry. When you look at the entire timeline of pinball, we are in a very strange place right now. Mm-hmm. Not only, I think more and more in this time period they're being made for deep code because like 60 to 80 percent of them are landing in people's basements where this is going to be in a row of them and people want this deeper experience, you know. Yeah. So when you were playing it, Gorgar was, that was made for an operator to take someone's quarter as quickly as possible so the kid behind him, with his quarter on the rail, can give him that quarter and then the quarter behind it. And, you know, so they weren't made for this. I mean, they had to be fun. They had to be like, what did Henry William, Harry Williams say, like, just one more quarter. Like, you're trying to balance that, like, it's hard to take, it's made to take money, but it's also made to like, okay. If I have just one more quarter and I can beat this or one more quarter you can get the next shot and do some. There's stuff built in those older games, most of them. But it's not made to be this long journey. The journey is empty your wallet and then empty the kids behind you's wallet because this operator is making money with it. But they're still fun. I do like them. Some of those old ones are really fun to play. Yeah, that Grand Lizard, that has double flippers, right? Yes, it has like a secondary play field on the top where you have to try to get back. There's two ramps that go up into it and there's like a ramp in the middle also. So there's two side ramps and then a ramp in the middle that you can go back up. The older wide body double flipper things always get me because you can't trap the ball. Well, you can trap the ball between the flippers and then it just drains. That's where it's a trick. We have to get one of those in-house at some point so I can break myself without having it. Because as soon as I play one of those, I'm always like, ah, damn it, that's right. This is going to get me, and it gets me three times in a row. I try to – because I think I do that way more than I don't realize it, where you kind of slow the ball down or trap the ball and then shoot. And on those, you do not do that. You can't. The top one you can't, but it's still tough. Since we're talking about that, we also need to get a machine that has a center post because I can't not try to save it. For some reason, I just can't watch it hit the center post. It's hard because often it will ricochet off that center post straight down anyway. I learned a lot in this tournament by watching these really, really good players. And I also learned a lot that I will never do. There are some players, now everyone in this level, the higher level, the ones that win these things, do a lot of nudging and a lot of movement. They move the machines around a lot. Some, almost too much. Well, not almost. They tilt out, so that's too much. I don't use that as much as I guess I should. No. But I'll never do some of the stuff I saw where they're tilting machines on their sides. That is almost kind of like odd to me, that behavior. And people are just playing. Yeah, I mean everybody plays their own way. It's just, I don't know. If you're tilting out every ball, that's the wrong way. I don't know much about competition playing, but if you tilt three in a row, that's the wrong way to play. And the machine's letting you know that. And it's gentle. Stop doing this to me. But that's why they don't. That's why they have longer ball times. That's why they have better scores. Right. Because they do that. They don't drain down the middle or they rarely drain down the middle. They're better at maneuvering the machine to make sure that they keep the ball in play. You know, we have also never. We went back the second day. We were. I wasn't. I wasn't scorekeeping. Yeah. Yeah, so it started on Thursday. So Thursday on my way home from work I went and I registered. So you got your wristband and your ticket for the drawing that they gave away a new in box Stern. Wow. Um, then Saturday you could go from like what? I think it was, I think they opened at 11, maybe 10, maybe they opened early. Like it was like 10 or 11 hours a day that you could go and try to beat your own high score. And that's the way this is. This is like a three day event. So you have, you can go for a while. So it was Thursday. We went to register Friday. We went back after work. Like, yeah, you just played a few games. Yeah, because I didn't want to play all of it on Saturday. Right. So I think I did like five or six games on Friday and then went back Saturday when you were scoring. Right. Because that was a four-hour shift. That was one to five. Yeah. And then, yeah, you know, so it is a more relaxed environment to get to finals. Yeah. And you could tell towards the end of the day there was a lot more really intense playing Because they knew what they had to do. Some players were on the other side of the line. They knew they had to win this one. So that kind of stuff. It's a little, the way that works, like the high score gets like 100 points. And then I think second score gets 90 points. And then I think it goes to 85 and then it's a one point after that. So sometimes you're jumping up like two points. So sometimes when you're looking at it at the end, you're like, oh, I need like six points. So you have to get a really good score. Yeah. It was interesting. We went back. The other thing, I don't. A lot of people use headphones. Yeah. And I kind of looked at you and I was like, so are those just sound muffling headphones or are they like earbuds that play music? And I guess I think it's both. I think it really depends on the player. Yeah, I think because the one guy from Germany had like the ones that I like I use for like, you know, when I'm running the snowblower. Yeah. You know, like you just there's no sound. I think that's to help focus, I guess, or concentrate. And then music is probably just to be on your own in your own world. It just takes all of the background noise out of it. Yeah. All right. So the one guy that was, you know, I was watching some people playing and then some people like on either side of them or one guy with like they had to like triage some machines that were going down. And he's still playing and the super tilters and it just like didn't affect him. Right. I think that affects me a little bit. Yeah. And maybe that's why I'm not that. Well, I am. Like I'm in the game. But I think if you're really, really that level, then you're so in that game. You know, the place could be on fire and you're not going to notice, I guess. But you're just better. Better at like kind of staying focused. So that was interesting. I almost reached out to, I know Dennis Creasel, he does competition pinball playing, and I almost reached out to him and asked him what, like, you know, about the headphones. I was like, eh, that's just dumb. I can figure it out on my own, you know. And you could tell some are just like the cell phone iPods or earbuds I mean You listening to music or whatever you know And the other ones are just like weed whackers I not sure I've been doing pinball streaming before. Now this is the finals. So this is the final four of the pinball tournament. These are the last four of this event. So they were the really, you know, obviously the really, really good players. And, you know, and I'm watching and I was like, they are doing a lot of stuff I don't do. Right. And I was like, and as the more I watched, I was like, I should, you know, and I'm like, I should try to learn a little bit more. Like, because they would stop every shot. They held every shot where I like to just kind of keep flowing and let the ball go. I think there's benefits to both. I think so, too. And that's why I even said I asked Rachel because I was like, why would you stop it as that much? And she said, if you watch them, some games they stop it. Some games they don't. It just depends on the momentum that you need for the shots, which would make sense. Right. You know, because some shots with if it's ramped on USA, you can't stop it every time. Right. You know, good luck if you I mean, well, maybe you could like Venom. I don't know. That ramps an ass kicker. Yeah. So but I then after we came back, I did it the last couple of days when I was been playing. I have been stopping and holding it more and I do it more. It is easier than I think. Yeah. And I can pass it back and forth. So I think I have been doing it to some extent without like subconsciously. I just don't stop every shot and then do the shot. Every shot, do the shot. And then multiballs holding like three-on-one flipper and working through them. I try to do that, but it kind of gets where you've got like two on this one and then there's another one coming at you. And then sometimes it'll like hit those balls and then they all go flying anyway. Yeah. You know what I mean? The ball is wild, you know, to some degree. Right. I have been working a lot on shot shaping as far as trying to be a little bit better at making sure my ball is going where I want it to and how fast I want it to. You can just hit and hit and hit. It was interesting. I think I'm going to watch some players more often. Every now and then I think I'll probably watch some. Yeah, I'm sure you can watch it this weekend because is it the Fox Cities? Yeah. He'll be streaming it. Shout out to other, because I know, you know, we are sponsored by Lumberjack Johnnies and Fox Cities is, Pinball is out of there. So yeah, shout out. So it was, you know, it was a good experience. I learned a lot. I learned it new. And that's something else I always kind of say about Pinball is that there's always so much to learn. And there's always so much to do. It's not – you can just walk up and just shoot at what's blinking. But there's so much in the world of pinball that you can like – skills you can learn and shots you can learn and like, you know, and rule sets and all that kind of stuff. It is a really, really deep hobby, you know. Yes. And the skill set of pinball might be – if you talk about this to a normal person, they'd be like, what are you talking about, you weirdo? Don't you just hit the balls? Nope, sure don't. Well, you can. I mean, that's the beauty of it. You can, but you're not going to do so well. So it's kind of cool. I took away a lot from that tournament as far as learning to some new stuff I'm going to work on for my own scores, for my own ball times and stuff like that. This was the first time that I was in a tournament that I actually looked at the rule set. Yeah. Glenn sent a couple of the rule sets for, I think it was Gorgar and the lizard, Grand Lizard. And it was just like I was looking at them and I was like, okay, I can't do this. You can't. I know, but it was just like I was trying to cram for the exam. That never works for anybody. No, because I was looking at five different games trying to cram the role set and then I was like, wait a minute, this isn't right. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. You sign up for these and I always, I kind of in myself wonder why. Yeah. But I think you just like to interact and talk and stuff and that's fine too. I love to, the women involved in Ladies Flip and the Bells and Chimes are really, really great women. Oh yeah. Yeah, you know, it's a nicer atmosphere. Not nicer. It's a nice atmosphere. I didn't mean nicer. Don't take that the wrong way. No. It's more you're helping each other. You're learning and stuff like that. It really is. And it's nice to get to hang out with them for a couple hours once a month. I don't think anyone in the Final Four would help you with your score. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're very nice. Oh, yeah. Rachel always gives advice on how to play. I meant the main one. The main journey, Final Four. You hold the ball and go, hey, where should I shoot next? I don't think you're going to get a lot of help. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Yeah, you never know. All right. You know. That's enough of that. What else do we got for today? I don't think anything. We have some numbers from Lumberjacks. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Let's drop in those numbers. Okay. Saddle up the whole dang crew. Lumberjack Johnny's is calling you. Axes fly, skee-balls roll. Pinball popping, arcades glow, 100 beers, hot smoked meats, pizza so good, you're stomping your feet. Lumberjack Johnny, your fun time, one stop retreat. And we're back. All right. So, number three. All right. The best or worst? Best. The sharpest axes in the quiver. Yes. Or the axe bucket? I don't know. I don't know quiver. This one kind of surprises me. All right. Black. Fishtails. No. Black Knight. Black Knight Sword of Rage. Mm-hmm. All right. And then number two is Beetlejuice. Number two is Beetlejuice. And that makes number one. What? Pokemon. All right. I think Beetlejuice and Pokemon are going to trade jabs for quite some time. Right. The only thing is Lumberjack Johnnies has two Pokemon machines. Okay. So. So you're saying Pikachu is like ganging up on Beetlejuice? Well, no, but Beetlejuice is either first or second when Pokemon is first or second. And there's two Pokemon machines and only one Beetlejuice machine. Wowzers. Yes. That's okay. And what else do we got? What's the lowest? Okay. Third from the bottom. Ultraman. Ultraman, okay. The dullest axes in the pile. Go ahead. Number two is Dory's favorite, Led Zeppelin. Yes. And what is the rustiest, dullest axe in the pile? The one that's kind of in the bottom and you don't trust it enough to even throw it because you think maybe the head will come off and bop the person behind you in the head. What's that? Which is that? Which axe is that? That would be Whitewater. Whitewater? Yeah. That doesn't sound right. Whitewater. No. Especially the one that Dave had. That thing is slanted. Yeah, it is. It's really nice. I know he has the new one. He ordered that Yeti. Oh. So I think, is it Yukon Yeti? I don't know. I think so. Yeah, I think so he's going to have them next to each other, which will be really cool. Yeah. So nothing real surprising there. No. Zeppelin is some people like it It a tough game to like Yeah it I played it a lot and I tried to like it I don like it I don like it at all There's ways to play it that you can score well and unlock stuff. I saw some good players playing it. I don't know. I guess I'm very used to lots of things. Lots of different shots and lots of different things happening. It seems like it's very open too. Like there's a lot of dead real estate. Yeah. Like you could sublet some of that space out and put an extra mech in for a different game. Right. All right. Let's let's go to everyone's favorite segment. You ready? Well, let's let's say. So next show is going to be our 100th show. Uh huh. So with all this planning we have. Right. If there's anything that you would like us to do for our 100th show. We're not getting a lot of user feedback so I'm afraid to even put that out there. Oh, 100th Joe, I'd be like, and crickets and then that tumbleweed going through that dusty old thing. It's okay, okay. But go ahead and send us an email at pinballjd at gmail.com. There you go. And, you know, ask us a question or share one of your favorite moments from the Pinball Junk Joins. Oh yeah, that would be fun. Then, yes, share one of your favorite moments. We're going to get like 10 things telling us how wrong we were about this. Come on, guys. We'll try harder for the next 100. Right. I did say I was kind of thinking I'm starting to think through some options for Expo. Okay. You know, and we're going to have to make some decisions. I was almost thinking about getting like some iron on transfers and then trying to sell that, you know, that little penny pressing and sell like fresh made shirts there. Yeah. But almost like at cost or maybe like to make a buck on it. Yeah. Just to get like more stuff out there. Yeah. But then I'm thinking, oh, you're investing all this stuff and then nobody wants anything. You're like, well, that's no good. Maybe we could do a pre-order. You never know. Yeah. I'm thinking like all through, we need stickers, bigger, actually bigger stickers. No, we don't need bigger stickers. I don't know about the bottle opener. I keep talking about it, but then I don't know. So we have some stuff going on, but we'll see. The Expo is going to be here quicker than you think. So we've got to get going, especially in the world of this kind of crap, marketing crap, you have to order early and often. October will be here before you know it. It's already June. So if you do craft a correspondence to us at pinballjd at gmail.com, go ahead and also, you know, would you be interested in said stickers? Those are free, of course. Of course. Or a bottle opener or a, I don't know. Purchase a t-shirt. A t-shirt? If we had t-shirts that were like, I don't know what it would probably end up being like, I'll have to do the math, but it would be like $18. Is that too much, too steep, or is that good? Yeah. Let us know. Help guide us for your pleasure. Yeah. All right, enough of that weirdness. We also have to send one more shout out to Wilson at Lumberjack Johns. Oh, yeah. He's awesome. Yes, he is. For the longest time, I was like, he has no idea who we are at all. I still don't know if he does, but that's all right, too. He does. He does? Yeah, he knows who we are. Okay. Yeah. Very cool. He's always very friendly when we go there. No, he's a cool dude. Yeah. So if you go there, look for Wilson. Yes. All right. Now it's time. I've teased it 16 times in a row. Now we're finally getting there. Yes. Craft Brew Sally. You're going to have to put your journal down. Craft Brew Sally Child. You've been to all the breweries around. You've been ruining all over the town. Tell me what to drink until I fall on the ground. Yeah, somebody put some beer in my mug. And we're back again. Wow. We just keep on coming back. Okay, too dumb to stop. So while we were at Lumberjack Johnny's, Lumberjack Dave asked me if I had picked out a new craft beer from the very large selection. And I said, um, no. I said, I think I'm going to ask Rachel to pick one out for me. Uh-huh. So, I did, and she picked out Rainbow Sherbet by Prairie Artisan Ales. All right. They're out of Krebs, Oklahoma. It was very tasty. Krebs, Oklahoma. Yeah. How'd spell that? K-R-E-B-S. Okay. Yeah. Never heard of it. No, me either. Well, I've never heard of most places on the earth, to be honest with you. So, you know, like New York, I heard of that, and like, you know, Appleton, I heard of that. But, you know, Krebs, not so much. Schaumburg, Illinois, you know. I heard of that, I heard of those, you know. But it was a sour ale brewed with raspberries, pineapples, and oranges. No mango. Nice, okay. Yep. It felt like summer in a can. Wow. Yeah, listen to that. You should write that to them. Maybe they'll send you a case. I don't know. The next time they put out the new cans, they'll say, Craft Rousali says. It's like, what did you just say? Summer in a can. Wow. But the label was really neat. It was kind of like a rainbow. But it reminded me of Yellow Submarine by the Beatles. Oh, cool. It had like a yellow car in the center of it. Yeah. Like that 60s kind of wacky. Yeah. Nice. I would have it again. All right. That's all the endorsement the summer in a can means. So thank you for picking that out, Rachel. A tribe member, Rachel. We all had our coins with, so that was good. We did. All right. Nothing else? I don't think so. You can always check out projectpinball.org. We always tell you, go to projectpinball.org. They're going to have raffles for some of these crazy new games. I know we're all waiting for JJP to drop their Sonic game. Oh, yes. They put the teaser out there the day of the media event. Right, of the Transformers. Cute. That's cute. But whatever. Is that it? No. Oh. We also talked to Emily from Jay's Silver Ballroom. All right. Just met them. Very cool. We're going to shout out also to Nick. We'll just say Nick T because I don't want to give out people's names if they don't want them to. They reached out for a sticker, which Crafter Sally made one of her world famous homemade thank you cards. And then we put some stickers in and he said, favorite brewery, definitely. I definitely am a victim of the PNW and like my IPAs. His whole family is in the UP and Wisconsin. He talked about Nuke Laris. Oh, yeah, yeah. Good stuff. So thank you for writing, Nick, and thanks for being a fan. And we hope you enjoy the stickers, and we'll definitely hit up some of your choices. Anything else? I don't think so. I don't think so either. We hope to see you back with us for Show 100 after we get through all of this planning we've been doing. Yes. We still have two weeks, so. Wink. We'll have some grand stuff. And as we always say, hey buddy, this podcast is for your ears and your butt. Shazbot, no. That's it, man.

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