# Episode 352 - Hard Tilt vs. Soft Tilt

**Source:** For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2016-02-26  
**Duration:** 8m 24s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://foramusementonly.libsyn.com/episode-352-hard-tilt-vs-soft-tilt

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## Analysis

Nick Baldridge discusses the two types of tilt mechanisms found in Bally bingo pinball machines: hard tilt (immediate game-ending relay dropout) and soft tilt (anti-cheat relay disengagement without full trip). He explains the engineering differences between 40-step timer games (hard tilt only) and post-1960 8-step timer games (soft tilt capability), describes a specific repair he made to his Double Up machine involving trip relay switch adjustment, and highlights how Bally's transition to 8-step timers introduced both innovative player-friendly recovery mechanics and unforeseen hardware timing bugs.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Hard tilt is a traditional tilt mechanism where nudging the machine causes a trip relay to drop out and kill the game immediately. — _Nick Baldridge, speaker explaining core tilt mechanics_
- [HIGH] Soft tilt is a feature in games made after about 1960 with 8-step timers, where the anti-cheat relay disengages but the tilt trip relay is not actually tripped, allowing game revival. — _Nick Baldridge, explaining post-1960 Bally design_
- [HIGH] Games with 40-step timers use hard tilt only, while 8-step timer games introduced soft tilt capability. — _Nick Baldridge, comparing timer generations_
- [HIGH] The trip relay has two normally-open switches that become closed when the relay drops out, designed to power alternate circuits for coin-up functionality. — _Nick Baldridge, describing trip relay circuit design_
- [MEDIUM] Bally's switch from 40-step to 8-step timers caused interesting bugs in their hardware timing that engineers hadn't anticipated. — _Nick Baldridge, citing his interview with Jeffrey Lawton and Robert Bainel_
- [HIGH] The Double Up machine Nick repaired had a stuck hard-tilt condition caused by trip relay switches that were out of adjustment and only partially making contact. — _Nick Baldridge, describing his repair work_
- [MEDIUM] Don Hooker and Bally engineers carefully considered these game mechanics during the design process. — _Nick Baldridge, crediting Bally engineering team_
- [HIGH] Nick achieved two 64-replay hits on Double Up after fixing the tilt issue, with the first requiring 35 credits and the second only 5 credits. — _Nick Baldridge, personal gameplay results_

### Notable Quotes

> "A hard tilt is what you might think of as a traditional tilt. You nudge the machine a little too hard and a trip relay drops out and all of a sudden the game goes dead."
> — **Nick Baldridge**, early segment
> _Core definition of hard tilt mechanism_

> "The soft tilt is when you turn the game on initially it will show tilt on the back glass but the tilt trip relay is not actually tripped."
> — **Nick Baldridge**, mid-segment
> _Distinguishes soft tilt from hard tilt and its display behavior_

> "Once the game is hard-tilted, there's no way to revive it. From a soft tilt, you can revive a number of different ways, and it all depends on what's engaged, what's disengaged, and how those circuits interact."
> — **Nick Baldridge**, late segment
> _Explains the practical gameplay difference between the two tilt types_

> "Bally was very clever. Don Hooker and the engineers over at Bally really, really considered these games carefully."
> — **Nick Baldridge**, conclusion section
> _Acknowledges Bally engineering sophistication_

> "When Bally switched to the 8 timer it really caused some interesting bugs in their hardware timing that they hadn't really thought about."
> — **Nick Baldridge**, near end
> _Notes unintended consequences of design transition_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Nick Baldridge | person | Host of For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast; experienced bingo machine restorer and technician |
| Bally | company | Historical major pinball manufacturer that developed hard and soft tilt mechanisms for bingo machines |
| Double Up | game | Bally bingo pinball machine that Nick Baldridge owns and recently repaired; favorite game of Sophie |
| Don Hooker | person | Bally engineer credited with careful design consideration of tilt mechanisms and game circuits |
| Jeffrey Lawton | person | Industry expert interviewed by Nick Baldridge; discussed hardware timing bugs in Bally 8-step timer transition |
| Robert Bainel | person | Industry expert interviewed by Nick Baldridge; discussed hardware timing bugs in Bally 8-step timer transition |
| Sophie | person | Nick Baldridge's companion; favorite game is Double Up |
| For Amusement Only | organization | EM and bingo pinball podcast hosted by Nick Baldridge |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Tilt mechanisms in bingo machines, Hard tilt vs. soft tilt engineering, Bally design transitions (40-step to 8-step timers), Trip relay repair and switch adjustment
- **Secondary:** Anti-cheat relay circuits, Machine restoration and troubleshooting, Bally hardware timing bugs, Player revival mechanics in post-1960 games

### Sentiment

**Positive** (0.78) — Nick expresses satisfaction with the repair, admiration for Bally engineering sophistication, and enjoyment of successfully playing Double Up. Acknowledges complexity and unintended bugs but frames them as interesting technical challenges rather than failures. Upbeat tone throughout.

### Signals

- **[design_innovation]** Bally's transition from hard-tilt-only 40-step timer games to soft-tilt-capable 8-step timer games (post-1960) introduced player-friendly game revival mechanics while maintaining anti-cheating protections. (confidence: high) — Nick describes how soft tilt allows game revival and player agency while hard tilt is unrecoverable; credits this as 'excellent idea' and 'very clever' engineering by Bally and Don Hooker
- **[product_concern]** Bally's 8-step timer transition introduced unforeseen hardware timing bugs that engineers had not anticipated during design phase. (confidence: medium) — Nick states 'When Bally switched to the 8 timer it really caused some interesting bugs in their hardware timing that they hadn't really thought about' and references interview with Jeffrey Lawton and Robert Bainel
- **[restoration_signal]** Trip relay switch adjustment technique used to resolve intermittent hard-tilt sticking on Double Up; switches required tightening to make proper contact. (confidence: high) — Nick describes disassembling trip relay, examining switches (found clean but out of adjustment), tightening them, and successfully resolving the stuck tilt condition
- **[gameplay_signal]** Soft tilt mechanic introduces strategic depth by allowing players to revive games, earn additional balls, and continue scoring in ways unavailable on hard-tilt-only machines. (confidence: high) — Nick contrasts hard tilt (no revival possible) with soft tilt (multiple revival paths depending on circuit state) and describes this as meaningful gameplay change from 40-step era
- **[historical_signal]** Documentation of Bally's anti-cheating tilt development strategy showing progression from simple hard tilt to complex soft tilt with conditional revival mechanisms. (confidence: high) — Nick's detailed explanation of hard vs. soft tilt design, timer generations, and circuit interactions; credits Don Hooker and Bally engineers with sophisticated anti-cheating approach
- **[content_signal]** For Amusement Only episode demonstrates deep technical expertise in EM/bingo pinball mechanics and attracts expert guests (Jeffrey Lawton, Robert Bainel) for specialized topics. (confidence: high) — Nick's detailed technical explanation combined with reference to published interviews on same topic

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## Transcript

 what's that sound it's for amusement only the em and bingo pinball podcast welcome back to for amusement only this is nick baldridge tonight i spent a little time and fixed a problem with my double up that had been happening since the bingo row and all the movement, commotion, falling, you know, all that good stuff that happened to the head of it. So, what was happening is the machine would be stuck in tilt. Now, what I wanted to talk about tonight, though, was not this particular problem, but the two kinds of tilt that bingo machines have, there are many ways that ballet bingos in particular were able to figure out if someone was attempting to cheat. Over time, they developed even more, but one of the easiest and simplest ways are the two different kinds of tilt. You have a hard tilt, and you have a soft tilt. Now a hard tilt is what you might think of as a traditional tilt. You nudge the machine a little too hard and a trip relay drops out and all of a sudden the game goes dead. That's what I call a hard tilt. And it works the same in a bingo. So you have the plumb bob tilt. It hits the ring where you have your slam tilt. switch and that opens or closes and that will cause the trip relay to drop out and that will tilt your game But there also the soft tilt and the soft tilt is when you turn the game on initially it will show tilt on the back glass but the tilt trip relay is not actually tripped And this is on later games with an 8-step timer. Games with a 40-step timer, the timer will continue to advance until it hits the limit switch. but on the games made after about 1960 now we switch to the 8 step timer and in this case the game will soft tilt and the only thing that happens is that the anti-cheat relay is not engaged and therefore the tilt light will display but it's not actually hard tilted the tilt trip is not engaged. And so there's an entire different circuit that will handle coining up from the soft tilt state versus the hard tilt state. And this actually was the problem that I fixed tonight. If the game went into a hard tilt, it wouldn't coin back up, no matter what I did. well the issue is that the two switches which are normally open and when the tilt trip drops out become closed are supposed to power alternate circuits to allow the coin switch to receive power and the buttons on the front of the game if you have replays on the register unfortunately neither of those was working properly so So, what I ended up doing is taking that trip relay apart, looking at those switches, they were pretty clean, but I adjusted them to be a little bit tighter, reassembled, and all was well. And the switches were very close They were not very far off of adjustment because occasionally you would turn it on and it would actually function for a while until it was hard tilted and then it would stop. Or sometimes it wouldn't and that's the nature of an intermittent problem that's caused by a switch which is only partially making. Now, the other thing that can cause this soft tilt state is related to how the games end with an 8-step timer. The timer times out, and the machine goes into a different kind of soft tilt. It's one where it shuts off the motors. and this soft tilt is engaged by the 8th step on the timer unit itself but in this case it doesn't light the tilt light on the back glass indicating to the player or the person who steps up to the game that it can be revived and played from there or you can play for extra balls at that point it's a pretty interesting thing to think about the change from the 40 step with a hard tilt that's forced upon the player at the time that the game decides versus these games with the R button from 1960 plus where under player control you can revive the game bring it back to life continue playing if you want, earn additional balls, and then score in ways that you couldn't previously. It's pretty interesting. And of course, if you've listened to some of my other podcasts about the problems that this has caused, and my recent interview with Jeffrey Lawton and Robert Bainel we touch on this subject as well When Bally switched to the 8 timer it really caused some interesting bugs in their hardware timing that they hadn't really thought about. But, for the most part, it's an excellent idea. Because once the game is hard-tilted, there's no way to revive it. From a soft tilt, you can revive a number of different ways, and it all depends on what's engaged, what's disengaged, and how those circuits interact. Bally was very clever. Don Hooker and the engineers over at Bally really, really considered these games carefully. Well, the good news is Double Up is fully functional again, which will make Sophie very happy. That's her favorite game. And I managed to get a 64 replay hit after putting in about 35 credits. So I came out ahead just barely, I guess. I posted that to Facebook. Then I put another 5 credits in and got another 64 replay hit. So that worked out pretty well after a time, but it didn't look good at first. Well, that's all for tonight. Thank you very much for listening. My name again is Nick Baldridge. You can reach me at 4amusementonlypodcast at gmail.com, or you can call me on the bingo sign. That's 724-BINGOS-1, 724-246-4671. You can listen to us on iTunes, Stitcher, Pocket Casts, VRSS, on Facebook, on Twitter at Bingo Podcast. You can follow me on Instagram, also at Bingo Podcast. Or you can listen to us on our website, which is foramusementonly.libsyn.com. Thank you very much for listening, and I'll talk to you next time.

_(Acquisition: groq_whisper)_

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