# I'm Sure I'll Get BANNED Next

**Source:** Cary Hardy  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2025-02-26  
**Duration:** 17m 2s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-faGgRgry8

---

## Analysis

Cary Hardy discusses two pinball community issues: an India-based scam operation impersonating pinball distributors on Facebook, and a major drama in the Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook group where an admin falsely accused Jeff Miller (Pinball Pimp) of scamming based on mistaken identity, then banned defenders of Miller without apologizing. Hardy criticizes the admin's abuse of power and predicts his own ban for calling out the behavior.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] An India-based scam operation is impersonating legitimate pinball distributors (possibly 'Mike's Pinball Machines' or 'Scott's Pinball Machines') and contacting people on Facebook Messenger — _Hardy personally engaged with the scammers, provided examples of their broken English, incorrect answers about pinball knowledge, and their request for payment via cashier's check after requesting personal information_
- [HIGH] The Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook admin falsely accused Jeff Miller (Pinball Pimp) of scamming, when the actual eBay seller 'Pinball Pimp' was someone else located in St. Simons, Georgia, not Jeff Miller — _Hardy cites Keith Stanton's screenshot post identifying Jeff Miller's actual eBay seller ID as 'jet c69' and locating the real Pinball Pimp seller in Georgia; Bill (the other admin) later reinstated Jeff after verification_
- [HIGH] The Pinball Enthusiasts admin banned multiple people who defended Jeff Miller, violating community standards by banning users for disagreement rather than rule violations — _Hardy states the admin 'starts banning those people' who defended Miller and notes the rules don't support banning for personal disagreement; Keith Stanton's post references Jim removing Jeff from multiple pages (EM Pinball, Pinball Classifieds)_
- [HIGH] Jeff Miller did not receive an apology from the admin despite being publicly smeared to 28,000 Pinball Enthusiasts members — _Hardy states 'I reached out to jeff for comment on this... did little bitch happen to um like apologize and do you think he did no he didn't even apologize for his actions'_
- [HIGH] Legitimate Stern pinball distributors do not randomly contact people on Facebook Messenger; Stern maintains a list of certified dealers on their website — _Hardy explicitly states 'a reputable distributor will not randomly reach out to people to buy pinball machines they don't do that there's a list of all the reputable certified dealers for like stern pinball on stern pinball's website'_
- [MEDIUM] A new Facebook group 'Pinball Enthusiast 2.0' has been created as an alternative to the original Pinball Enthusiasts page due to admin misconduct — _Hardy mentions 'there is another Pinball Enthusiast page called Pinball Enthusiast 2.0 that has started on Facebook' and encourages people to join it_
- [HIGH] The scammers claim manufacturers like Tales of the Arabian Nights will cover playfield wear and tear, demonstrating lack of industry knowledge — _Hardy states 'they're telling me that the manufacturer of Tales of the Arabian Nights will cover my playfield any possible wear and tear' as evidence of Google Translate use and ignorance_
- [HIGH] Jeff Miller's real eBay seller ID is 'jet c69' and he has been in Tampa, Florida for over 30 years with a booth at TPF and Expo and YouTube restoration videos — _Keith Stanton's post cited by Hardy identifies Miller as 'jet c69' on eBay with Tampa location and established community presence_

### Notable Quotes

> "I merely want to point out to you guys this right here... I'm not going to give you the entire dialogue. I believe it's very dry."
> — **Cary Hardy**, opening
> _Sets up the scam alert as a quick warning rather than detailed exposé_

> "these people do not care about you they don't care if you get a game or anything... they're after that quick couple of hundred bucks if not just a little more by wanting you to pay for the shipping or whatever up front"
> — **Cary Hardy**, mid-scam section
> _Explains the scammers' actual goal: quick money via shipping fees rather than elaborate fraud_

> "a reputable distributor will not randomly reach out to people to buy pinball machines they don't do that... ask around anybody can give you a legitimate distros name and then that's how you get a hold of them not like this"
> — **Cary Hardy**, scam prevention advice
> _Key advice for community: legitimate dealers don't cold-contact via Messenger_

> "by the way if it isn't already obvious i knew you were a scammer from the very first message i was bored and played along i had you guys translating and looking up machine images for nothing"
> — **Cary Hardy**, final message to scammers
> _Shows Hardy intentionally wasted scammers' time as counteraction_

> "He had a bad interaction and mistook jeff miller as the pinball pimp on ebay... The pinball pimp on eBay is someone else located in St. Simons, Georgia."
> — **Keith Stanton (quoted by Hardy)**, middle section
> _Clarifies the case of mistaken identity that caused the entire drama_

> "this is the kind of person that was a little bitch in school that got picked on And now the individual older and now they got some sort of sense of power over a social media Facebook page"
> — **Cary Hardy**, drama analysis
> _Hardy's psychological assessment of the admin's motivation for abuse of power_

> "he's going to be a little bitch and not post a public apology or anything. And has banned multiple people because these people have tried to defend Jeff"
> — **Cary Hardy**, conclusion of drama section
> _Summarizes the admin's failure to take responsibility and retaliatory bans_

> "Chances are, I'm going to get banned more than likely here very soon for calling him little bitch over and over again."
> — **Cary Hardy**, near end
> _Hardy anticipates retaliation for his criticism and public naming of the admin_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Cary Hardy | person | YouTuber and pinball content creator discussing scams and community drama |
| Jeff Miller | person | Known as 'Pinball Pimp,' sells pinball stencils and parts; falsely accused of scamming in Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook group |
| Keith Stanton | person | Pinball community member who posted clarification and defense of Jeff Miller, identifying the case of mistaken identity |
| Bill | person | Co-admin of Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook group who reinstated Jeff Miller after verification of facts |
| Jim | person | Admin of Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook group (referred to as 'Little Bitch' by Hardy) who falsely accused Jeff Miller and banned defenders |
| Pinball Enthusiasts | organization | Facebook group with 28,000+ members; location where the admin misconduct and false accusation drama occurred |
| Pinball Enthusiast 2.0 | organization | New alternative Facebook group created in response to admin misconduct at original Pinball Enthusiasts page |
| Mike's Pinball Machines | organization | Possibly fraudulent Facebook page used by India-based scammers impersonating a legitimate distributor |
| Scott's Pinball Machines | organization | Possibly fraudulent Facebook page used by India-based scammers impersonating a legitimate distributor |
| EM Pinball | organization | Facebook group where Jeff Miller was banned by admin Jim |
| Pinball Classifieds | organization | Facebook group where Jeff Miller was banned by admin Jim |
| Tales of the Arabian Nights | game | Classic pinball game referenced by scammers in false claim about manufacturer warranty coverage |
| Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer; maintains official list of certified dealers |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Scam awareness and prevention, Facebook community moderation abuse, Mistaken identity and false accusation, Pinball community drama and gossip
- **Secondary:** How to identify legitimate pinball dealers, Administrative power and accountability
- **Mentioned:** Pinball parts and restoration

### Sentiment

**Negative** (-0.8) — Hardy is highly critical and angry about both the scam operation and especially the admin's abuse of power. He uses inflammatory language ('little bitch' repeatedly) to express contempt. The only positive sentiment is for Jeff Miller and the community members who defended him. The tone is confrontational, anticipating his own ban, and advocating for community action.

### Signals

- **[community_signal]** Major drama in Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook group where admin falsely accused well-known community member Jeff Miller (Pinball Pimp) of scamming based on mistaken identity with a different eBay seller (confidence: high) — Hardy provides detailed account of false accusation, admin's retaliatory bans of defenders, lack of apology, and creation of alternative group (Pinball Enthusiast 2.0) as response
- **[event_signal]** False accusation and subsequent reinstatement of Jeff Miller became major viral event within Pinball Enthusiasts group, generating significant engagement and discussion about community governance (confidence: high) — Keith Stanton's post gained traction, Bill reinstated Miller, community rallied with likes/comments on Miller's return post, events led to creation of alternative group and ongoing discussion
- **[sentiment_shift]** Significant community backlash against admin misconduct; Jeff Miller's reinstatement post received 700+ likes and 127 comments showing strong support, indicating broad community awareness and disapproval of admin's actions (confidence: high) — Hardy notes post 'got over 700 likes 127 comments' and references 'the amount of support and the likes and the positive comments that went in towards Jeff'
- **[market_signal]** Narrative that Facebook group admins are abusing moderation power through retaliatory bans based on personal disagreement rather than rule violations, leading to loss of community trust and migration to alternative groups (confidence: high) — Hardy emphasizes admin banned people for 'saying things that he doesn't like' not for rule violations; creation of Pinball Enthusiast 2.0 as direct response; Hardy's prediction of his own ban for criticism
- **[regulatory_signal]** Organized scam operation based in India impersonating pinball distributors, contacting people on Facebook Messenger with generic outreach, requesting personal information, and attempting to extract shipping fees via fake payment issues (confidence: high) — Hardy demonstrates detailed scammer methodology: broken English, Google Translate use, incorrect industry knowledge, false warranty claims, request for personal information, fake payment problems, cashier check requests

---

## Transcript

What's up guys and welcome back to the channel where I talk and do everything pinball. So if that sounds interesting to you, then hit the subscribe button down below. We're going to dive right into it. We're talking about scammers and we're talking about a little bit of pinball drama. So let's jump into it. Let's get the scammer portion over and done with. I went over this last night on a live stream. I'm not going to give you the entire dialogue. I believe it's very dry. I merely want to point out to you guys this right here. Now note, I'm currently friends with this particular scammer. I just want to make everyone aware that this is not a legitimate distributor or a pinball dealer of any sorts. I have literally been going back and forth for days with this, I say individual, but more than likely it's more than just one over there in India. But they reached out to me, and the broken English was partly a good giveaway for this, but as well as just me just being inquisitive and knowing what I know about this industry and hobby, and every question was answered incorrectly. to the point where they're telling me that the manufacturer of Tales of the Arabian Nights will cover my playfield any possible wear and tear. Trust me, I was asking questions just to really highlight how out of touch they really are. To where they were Googling and doing Google Translate for all the things that I was asking them. I just want you to be aware and also make everybody else aware of this particular page. Now, it may not be Mike's pinball machines. It might be Scott's pinball machines. But I want to give you as much awareness as I possibly can because I talked to a couple of other people in my same group, and they said they were reached out either by the same individual or at least the same opening message. So let me give you that. So the first message will be something around like this. Hey Kerry, I hope you're doing well. Sorry for texting you directly. I was wondering if you are a fan of pinball machine games. Immediately I was like, scammer. But I've got nothing else better to do at the time. Let's have a little chat back and forth. And so basically I was just trying to waste his time because he's not trying to waste my time. And that's something I really want to hammer home to a lot of you out there. these people do not care about you they don't care if you get a game or anything the thing is they're not even going to get to the point of trying to take the money for a game that's not what they're after they're after that quick couple of hundred bucks if not just a little more by wanting you to pay for the shipping or whatever up front they're gonna request information so they can register the game to you and the information is very basic your name your phone number email address shipping address and then the game will be registered to you now i gave all this information to them but it wasn't legitimate the address went to the dallas comedy club the phone number was from a scammer that tried to call me earlier that day the name was john smith even though he's got my name literally right here on messenger the email address was i'm wasting your time at lol.com i tried to make it as obvious as i could but he just kept on coming with it okay so how would you like to make your payment and everything and so yeah i was like okay well yeah how are we going to do this like oh then it finally got to the point to where i'm like good so it's going to be 500 bucks i need to do something with the cashier's check because something's wrong with their paypal account at this point in time. Bunch of bogus crap. Let me just be clear as I possibly can. Spread the word to everybody about this page but at least make people aware to not trust pinball distributors that are contacting you out of the blue on facebook messenger or something like that they don do that a reputable distributor distributor will not randomly reach out to people to buy pinball machines they don't do that there's a list of all the reputable certified dealers for like stern pinball on stern pinball's website as well as many people in this hobby or industry that can give you dozens i say dozens a couple of different distributors that have treated them accordingly ask around anybody can give you a legitimate distros name and then that's how you get a hold of them not like this so but by all means feel free to go to this particular facebook page and report them for a scam or fraud i also see that they have 488 friends 71 of those are mutual people um so if you're friends with this you might want to unfriend them i'm about to do it now my last message to them i will give you that so here is my last message to them after the whole issue i'm like by the way if it isn't already obvious i knew you were a scammer from the very first message i was bored and played along i had you guys translating and looking up machine images for nothing you answered so many questions wrong and that only highlighted how ignorant you are to the industry. Your page has already been reported for fraud and I will be making an announcement to the industry very soon to keep people informed about what you are doing. I really hope you come to realize how pathetic you are to dedicate so much time into stealing people's money. I honestly feel the world would be a better place if you just slit your wrists. One less cowardly asshole in the world. Now I know, Kerry, it got really dark right there at the end, but yes, I just don't have much patience for these kinds of people because in the end they don't care about you all they want is your money for literally nothing they provide no service or anything merely just a promise and trust me there's a whole dialogue about how they're all about customer service obviously copy and paste it from some other kind of hr lingo but that's pretty much all i need to talk about that let me unfriend this person as i speak yes i know there so by all means visit mike's pinball machines facebook page and report them for scam or fraud now on to the pinball drama that started earlier this morning for those of you that are on facebook and you're into pinball chances are you're a part of the group Pinball Enthusiasts. There are over 28,000 members of this particular Facebook page. Now, it all started literally like early this morning because one of the two admins of this page had an issue with one of the very well-known person in this industry. And this particular admin i'm not gonna give you his name i'm merely you know what let's just call him little bitch because that's what he is and the chances are after this video goes public it'll get shared to him and then i'll get banned from pinball enthusiasts which highlights even further how much of a little bitch he is so let's move on this is what happened now like i said this is gonna have to be from memory because he's already backtracked and deleted these messages there's a little bit left over from images of screenshots but how it went little bitch posted this morning that hey i got screwed over by pinball pimp also known as jeff miller on ebay like and started stating how he reached out to him and he didn respond tried emailing and never got a response back and so basically he decides that he going to ban jeff from pinball enthusiast page and he's blasting this on a page to over 28 000 people smearing this individual who makes money by selling you probably know of you if you have purchased like stencils for your older Valley Games. You probably bought it from Pinball Pimp. So, that starts. And then, of course, you have people that know Jeff that start chiming in and trying to defend him. Like, even being inquisitive kind of thing. Like, are you sure? Have you tried reaching out to him? Kind of thing. And the people that started to defend him, the little bitch starts banning those people. And it's like, okay, you've already overreached your admin abilities by banning somebody who you believe has done you wrong on a completely different platform. Now you're going to use your admin abilities to start banning people that are for the individual that you have banned because he allegedly did something. Here's the funny thing, guys. Jeff Miller, pinball pimp, he did nothing wrong. The individual's name on eBay, although said pinball pimp, it wasn't Jeff Miller, pinball pimp. It was somebody else, more than likely a scammer. Doesn't matter who they were. It wasn't actually Jeff Miller, the pinball pimp. So unbeknownst to Jeff, he wakes up this morning and is like, what's going on? kind of thing with all the people messaging him wondering why he did this and why he's no longer so it's like what the hell's going on and so what's and i'm trying let me see if i can find some of the screenshots of what little bitch was saying to people i'm sure there are screenshots in the comments but this got a lot of traction this morning guys uh someone named keith stanton posted this today it says pinball enthusiast earlier today a valuable member of our pinball community was falsely accused of inappropriate action on ebay by admin here little bitch he had a bad interaction and mistook jeff miller as the pinball pimp on ebay jeff seller id on ebay is jet c69 jeff has been in the tampa florida for over 30 years he may have bought his stencil kits for a restoration project seen his booth at tpf or expo for his restoration videos on youtube channel The pinball pimp on eBay is someone else located in St. Simons, Georgia. Jim removed Jeff from this page. EM Pinball and Pinball Classifieds. Because, evidently, Little Bitch is the admin of multiple pinball Facebook pages. Not just the one biggest one that you've ever had or seen, but multiples. And I'll dig a little deeper into that. Let me finish this. after jim has had a chance to verify the facts i'm relaying i'm sure he will correct the matter thanks for your support so he has an image here that basically points out you know the different ebay sellers and stuff but uh then we have later on the other admin bill reinstated jeff now i reached out to jeff for comment on this i'm like hey did did little bitch happen to um like apologize and do you think he did no he didn't even apologize for his actions and this is where and why i'm calling this man little bitch because more than likely this is the type of this is the type of person guys that is the absolute worst to have power this is the kind of person that was a little bitch in school that got picked on And now the individual older and now they got some sort of sense of power over a social media Facebook page And now they feel like this is the chance for them to feel powerful over everybody. If you don't agree with what I say or agree with this, then, ha, banhammer, out with you. Oh, you don't like this? Out with you. And this gives him some sense of power? This gives you power over me? So, like I said, chances are I'm going to get banned more than likely here very soon for calling him little bitch over and over again. But due to your actions, little bitch, by not even apologizing, making a public statement because you literally smeared this man's name on a very public forum and didn't have the balls to apologize, at least bare minimum. to the 28,000 people that you tried to influence to say that this person screwed you over on more than likely a very small purchase. And it wouldn't surprise me if it was a small purchase. And you're just really, ooh, I don't know you. I don't personally know you. But I feel like just by the actions, yeah, that's probably something that you would do. And of course, everything's back to good. Bill, the other admin, reinstated Jeff back into Pinball Enthusiast page. And what's crazy is the amount of support and the likes and the positive comments that went in towards Jeff for being back on literally just a social media Facebook page about pinball. But I think why this got so much attention was the nature of it. And people are well aware that this admin really stretched his abilities way too far and is completely in the wrong on this. And he's going to be a little bitch and not post a public apology or anything. And has banned multiple people because these people have tried to defend Jeff and have stated their comments. They have made a comment that this admin doesn't like, so therefore, since he's the admin and a little bitch, he's going to do the ban hammer on everybody. If you go through the rules of the Pinball Enthusiast page, he's not banning people for breaking the rules. He's banning people because they're saying things that he doesn't like. And so due to the nature of this, there is another Pinball Enthusiast page called Pinball Enthusiast 2.0 that has started on Facebook. I would encourage you guys to join that one. And maybe over time, we'll segue into a pinball enthusiast page that isn't guarded by an old, magrudging little bitch. So, there it is. Chances are, that's where I'm going to be primarily posting or sharing things or talking with people. Because, like I said, I'll be banned more than likely tomorrow due to the nature of calling Jim little bitch over and over again. but I think I'm going to digress on this now I mean check this out got over 700 likes 127 comments of course I loved it because you know this is basically Jeff saying he's back the real pinball pimp and just has his links accordingly right here to purchase things but the amount of support is enough right here and again the admin that started this whole thing could have at least apologized but he didn't he merely is covering his tracks, deleting posts that show how much of a little bitch he is and just hoping that people will eventually forget about it so, that's one of the reasons why I'm making this video it's going to stir it up again and he's going to think that he's just going to get away with being a little bitch. No. Not going to happen. See you around, guys. More than likely on Pinball Enthusiast 2.0. I'll catch you in the next one.

_(Acquisition: youtube_groq_whisper, Enrichment: v3)_

---

*Exported from Journalist Tool on 2026-04-13 | Item ID: 4a28579a-e528-47fd-b45d-bb178d578d52*