# Episode 219 – More Rush Please

**Source:** Slam Tilt Podcast  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2023-11-29  
**Duration:** 117m 13s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.slamtiltpodcast.com/2023/11/28/episode-219-more-rush-please/

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## Analysis

Slam Tilt Podcast Episode 219 features guest Tom Cicchetti, a longtime pinball collector with 35 machines owned over 23 years and currently 14 in rotation. The episode covers Stern's recent code updates and controversial in-game advertising, the Stern Insider Connected app launch, Rush Premium gameplay deep-dives, Rochester Pinball Collective expansion plans, TWIP's leadership transition, American Pinball's three-game original theme commitment, Jersey Jack Pinball's pricing concerns (particularly Elton John), Jaws rumors based on artist Christopher Franchi's hints, and Pinball Brothers' strategic Alien Ripley edition price reduction to under $8k.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Stern updated every Spike game with code right before Thanksgiving and added in-game advertising — _Ron and Bruce confirm Stern added advertising in code updates; Bruce notes it feels like comparing new games favorably to older ones in gameplay screens_
- [HIGH] Stern Insider Connected app crashed on first day due to server overload — _Bruce states 'Nobody can get on the first day. Yeah, it crashed immediately because no one can get on.'_
- [HIGH] Christopher Franchi sold Tom a custom Jaws translite two years ago at Texas Pinball Festival with exact machine dimensions — _Tom: 'I bought it from him at the Texas Pinball Festival two years ago. It was the first one after COVID. And he told me... it's the exact dimensions that you can put right in the machine when Stern releases it in a couple years.'_
- [HIGH] American Pinball's next three games will all be original themes, not licensed IP — _Ron: 'the next three American games are going to be original themes, baby'_
- [HIGH] Pinball Brothers reduced Alien Predator pricing from ~$15,500 to under $8,000 due to poor sales of other machines — _Bruce: 'they had to lower it... We got to keep the Mr. Playline moving' and prices now under $8k with both Translites included if ordered before Dec 31_
- [HIGH] Jersey Jack Pinball's original-theme game (Dialed In) is their lowest seller — _Ron: 'Jersey Jacks, their one original theme they did is their lowest seller.'_
- [HIGH] Rush Premium had Tim Sexton make recent scoring changes requiring percentage buildup before mode start — _Tom: 'they changed the scoring on it, where now you have to... actually get the percentage up and set the multipliers'_
- [HIGH] Pinball Brothers' Alien Ripley edition includes 33 new movie clips with Ripley and code from original developers — _Bruce discusses new Alien Ripley translites and mentions '33 new movie clips with her in it. And the code is done by all the same people who did the original code.'_
- [HIGH] Tom paid approximately $10,000 for Rush Premium with distributor discount — _Tom: 'I technically work for a distributor here in Columbus... I got a deal on it' and acknowledges it 'would have been $10,000' retail_
- [HIGH] This Week in Pinball (TWIP) has had three different hosts/runners in the past year — _Ron: 'It's like the third person that's now running TWIP in the past year. It was Jeff Patterson and Will Oding, and now it's Colin.'_

### Notable Quotes

> "I'm going with the Jaws rumor... I bought it from him at the Texas Pinball Festival two years ago... he's like, I'm not saying anything, but it's the exact dimensions that you can put right in the machine when Stern releases it in a couple years."
> — **Tom Cicchetti**, mid-episode
> _Key confirmation of Jaws pinball rumors based on direct artist communication and physical translite dimensions matching machine specs_

> "If it wasn't Rush, I wouldn't have bought it. That's plain and simple. It would have never been bought unless it was 15 years later when someone hosed it out."
> — **Tom Cicchetti**, later episode
> _Illustrates theme-driven purchasing and extreme pricing sensitivity; Tom spent $10k primarily for Rush IP despite cost being the single most expensive purchase he's made_

> "They're going to charge you $5,000 more than everything else. Because then I'll be upset. And that will be probably the last brand new game of it."
> — **Tom Cicchetti**, mid-episode
> _Expresses community concern about tier-based pricing strategy and willingness to exit new-game purchases if JJP follows premium pricing model like Bond_

> "You don't even have to own pinball machines to be a good podcaster. Yes. I'm there like, oh, God, I don't believe they actually printed that. I loved it. It was fucking awesome."
> — **Ron Hallett**, mid-episode
> _Self-aware meta-commentary on Slam Tilt's approach; quoted in TWIP article about bottom five games instead of top five_

> "For now. Oh, for now. For now, okay. For now."
> — **Ron and Bruce (overlapping)**, early-mid episode
> _Concern about Stern's in-game advertising becoming permanent; speculation that toggleable feature may not remain optional long-term_

> "If you bought it a year ago, you get the same exact machine with Ripley on it... But it's cheaper."
> — **Bruce Nightingale**, late episode
> _Highlights Pinball Brothers' inverse pricing strategy vs. industry norm; new Ripley edition cheaper than previous year despite added content_

> "I did that during Fly By Night Multiball. Fly by night, away from here. That was the hardest thing I ever did in my life, and I drained right after because I was celebrating so hard."
> — **Tom Cicchetti**, mid-episode
> _Documents extremely rare Rush full combo achievement (La Villa Strangiato) accomplished during multiball; celebrates Rush ruleset depth_

> "Every other game they have, let's settle them, John. Tom, what's your favorite JJP? Well, I was about to interrupt. Are you trying to say, Bruce, that Dialed In is worse than Toy Story?"
> — **Ron Hallett / Tom Cicchetti**, mid-episode
> _Debate about Jersey Jack's game quality and sales performance; positions Dialed In as lowest-performing due to weak gameplay despite being original theme_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
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| Tom Cicchetti | person | Guest on Slam Tilt Podcast, longtime pinball collector since ~2000 with 35 machines owned, 14 currently active in rotation (Rush Premium, World Cup Soccer, Spider-Man, Walking Dead, Playboy, Black Belt, Silver Ball Mania, Xenon, Flash Gordon, Earthshaker, Demolition Man, etc.). Rush fan with Rush tattoo; distributor-side connection in Columbus. |
| Ron Hallett | person | Co-host of Slam Tilt Podcast from upstate New York; part-owner of Rochester Pinball Collective (RPC); podcast known for 'bottom five' game ranking approach rather than traditional top-five. |
| Bruce Nightingale | person | Co-host of Slam Tilt Podcast from upstate New York; part-owner/operator of Rochester Pinball Collective; regularly engages in pinball restoration and local arcade/pinball community. |
| Christopher Franchi | person | Pinball artist; sold custom Jaws translite to Tom Cicchetti at Texas Pinball Festival ~2 years ago (post-COVID) with hinted Stern release timeline; provided exact machine dimensions for future Stern Jaws machine. |
| Tim Sexton | person | Stern Pinball code designer; made recent Rush scoring changes requiring percentage buildup and multiplier management; subject of joking blame in episode. |
| Rush Premium | game | Stern Pinball machine with Rush band theme; released and now discontinued despite good distributor sales. Tom's most expensive personal purchase (~$10k premium edition with distributor discount). Features La Villa Strangiato full combo achievement (verified by Tom in Fly By Night multiball). |
| Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer; released widespread code updates pre-Thanksgiving across all Spike games; introduced in-game advertising in updates; launched Stern Insider Connected app that crashed on day one; community concerns about Rush discontinuation despite good sales. |
| Pinball Brothers | company | Boutique pinball manufacturer; strategically reduced Alien Predator pricing from ~$15.5k to under $8k due to poor sales of other machines; introduced new Alien Ripley edition with 33 new movie clips, dual translites, and pricing significantly lower than previous year models. |
| Jersey Jack Pinball | company | Premium pinball manufacturer; JJP Dialed In (original theme) noted as lowest-selling game despite critical reception; Elton John upcoming title discussed at $12k+ price point; community concerns about sustainability of premium pricing strategy. |
| American Pinball | company | Boutique manufacturer committing to three consecutive original-theme games (non-licensed IP) as strategic differentiation; industry observers skeptical about commercial viability of all-original approach. |
| Rochester Pinball Collective | organization | Pinball arcade and community venue in East Rochester, NY (349 Quest Commercial Street, Suite 2965); co-owned/operated by Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale; seeking additional owners/investors for expansion; current operations team includes two staff members working since 11am on shelving/setup. |
| Alien Ripley Edition | game | New Pinball Brothers variant of Alien machine featuring full Ripley character prominence with two translites (one showing Ripley's face, one text-only), 33 new movie clips, dual translite offer if ordered before Dec 31, priced under $8k with same code team as original. |
| This Week in Pinball (TWIP) | organization | Pinball news/media publication; leadership transitioned three times in past year (Jeff Patterson → Will Oding → Colin); recently published top-five games article featuring Slam Tilt's 'bottom five' perspective; Twippy Awards ceremony hosted by Emoto/Macho (Puppet Pals creator) upcoming in Texas. |
| Stern Insider Connected App | product | Official Stern Pinball companion app tracking player experience points, achievements, and plays across Spike game library; crashed on first day due to server overload; allows location-based game discovery and social tracking; three hosts all downloaded but experienced login/memory issues. |
| Jaws (rumored) | game | Unannounced Stern Pinball machine rumored based on Christopher Franchi's physical translite dimensions matching projected machine specs; Tom anticipates announcement; community speculation about potential premium pricing similar to Bond. |
| Dialed In | game | Jersey Jack Pinball's original-theme (non-licensed) machine; lowest-selling JJP game; subject of debate about whether Toy Story shoots better; illustrates challenge of original IP in premium pinball market. |
| Elton John | game | Upcoming Jersey Jack Pinball machine at $12k+ price point; Tom interested if pricing were more reasonable; considered for home purchase if wife approval obtained; subject of concern about premium pricing sustainability. |
| Texas Pinball Festival | event | Major pinball industry event where Tom encountered Christopher Franchi ~2 years post-COVID; venue where Jaws translite custom artwork and machine dimension specs were first discussed. |
| World Cup Soccer (1978 Williams) | game | Tom's first pinball machine played at age 6-8 at family pizza night; foundational machine in Tom's pinball journey; currently owns the Bally variant with dog toy in his home collection. |
| Pinball Hall of Fame (Las Vegas) | venue | Vegas-based pinball museum discussed for maintenance quality issues; Bruce notes museum's restrictive policies toward children; new location near Vegas strip with large building but poor layout/organization per hosts. |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Stern in-game advertising strategy and community backlash, Rush Premium gameplay, ruleset depth, and discontinuation despite sales, Jaws pinball rumors and Christopher Franchi artist hints, Jersey Jack Pinball premium pricing and market sustainability, Pinball Brothers Alien Ripley edition pricing strategy
- **Secondary:** American Pinball's original-theme commitment and commercial viability, Stern Insider Connected app launch and technical performance, Rochester Pinball Collective expansion and community ownership models

### Sentiment

**Mixed** (0.45) — Hosts and guest express enthusiasm about Rush gameplay and pinball collecting passion, but strong criticism of Stern's advertising strategy, concern about unsustainable premium pricing across manufacturers, and skepticism about JJP's market direction (Dialed In failure, Elton John viability). Tom's Rush purchase reflects deep emotional connection to theme despite cost objections. General industry pricing anxiety dominates latter half of episode.

### Signals

- **[business_signal]** Jersey Jack Pinball's original-theme machine (Dialed In) confirmed as lowest seller, raising questions about viability of non-licensed IP strategy in premium market. (confidence: high) — Ron: 'Jersey Jacks, their one original theme they did is their lowest seller.' Tom and Bruce debate quality vs sales correlation.
- **[community_signal]** Rochester Pinball Collective actively seeking expansion and additional ownership partners; current operations involve staff working unpaid labor (shelving, setup) indicating bootstrapped growth model. (confidence: medium) — Bruce: 'We are looking for if anybody else wants to invest because we're talking about expansion.' Tom describes RPC as part-owner opportunity requiring trusted partners and significant hands-on work.
- **[event_signal]** Twippy Awards ceremony upcoming in Texas hosted by Emoto/Macho (Puppet Pals creator); Slam Tilt not nominated but preparing presentation materials if selected for special award. (confidence: medium) — Ron: 'The Twippies. Oh, yeah. We noticed. That's going to be soon. The shitstorm's already starting. Oh, it's going to be great. I already have a Beavis and Butthead clip ready.'
- **[design_philosophy]** Stern appears to be actively managing in-game messaging and advertising in code updates, with toggleable feature currently available but hosts express concern about long-term permanence. (confidence: high) — Ron: 'You could turn that off. Yes, you can. For now. Oh, for now. For now.' Describes advertising in gameplay screens comparing new games favorably to older ones.
- **[leak_detection]** Jaws pinball confirmed through artist Christopher Franchi's physical translite dimensions matching exact machine specs, provided to customer two years ago with timeline hint. (confidence: high) — Tom: 'he told me... it's the exact dimensions that you can put right in the machine when Stern releases it in a couple years.' Purchased custom translite as insurance against future release.
- **[market_signal]** Pinball Brothers reducing Alien Predator pricing inversely against industry norm to move inventory; new Ripley edition positioned as value play with added content at lower price than previous model. (confidence: high) — Bruce: 'they had to lower it... We got to keep the Mr. Playline moving.' Alien Ripley under $8k with dual translites if ordered before Dec 31, vs ~$15.5k previous pricing.
- **[personnel_signal]** This Week in Pinball (TWIP) leadership transitioned three times in past year, indicating potential instability or strategic changes in pinball media landscape. (confidence: high) — Ron: 'It's like the third person that's now running TWIP in the past year. It was Jeff Patterson and Will Oding, and now it's Colin.'
- **[market_signal]** Community expressing severe MSRP sensitivity; Tom states Rush Premium would never have been purchased without IP theme alignment, despite having distributor discount. JJP Elton John at $12k+ projected to 'bomb' without lower pricing. (confidence: high) — Tom: 'If it wasn't Rush, I wouldn't have bought it... Unless it was 15 years later when someone hosed it out.' Tom: 'It's going to fucking bomb' on Elton John without price reduction.
- **[announcement]** American Pinball committing to three consecutive original-theme games; industry speculation that manufacturer will not sustain profitability if strategy continues given Dialed In performance. (confidence: high) — Ron: 'the next three American games are going to be original themes, baby.' Bruce responds: 'They might not get to the third if they do that.'
- **[product_strategy]** Rush Premium discontinued despite good distributor sales, raising questions about production decisions at Stern. (confidence: medium) — Tom: 'it sold good, and I've heard people always say, oh, it's a great game, and people love it in tournaments, but why are they not selling it? Why they stopped making it?'
- **[technology_signal]** Stern deploying in-game advertising in code updates across Spike platform; community perception of this as aggressive marketing shift versus 1990s-era subtle advertising. (confidence: high) — Ron: 'It seems like... look, here's the newest game. You can have the oldest game... look how good this game is. And the game you're playing right now sucks.' Bruce: 'It comes up a lot. You'd be surprised how much it comes up.'
- **[licensing_signal]** Rush IP availability and fan base depth driving individual purchasing decisions at premium price points; theme directly correlates with willingness to spend 2x+ normal budget. (confidence: high) — Tom paid $10k premium (distributor discount) for Rush and would have paid $20k or more; admits would not purchase at any other manufacturer's premium tier without Rush IP.

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## Transcript

 Okay, listen. Do you guys want to have sex? Uh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not too much trouble. Okay, here's how we're going to do it. One of you gets down on all fours, then the other gets on top of him in the same position. Whatever you say, baby. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Cell Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Yeah, that's a ticket. Yeah. Yes, Bruce. And this is episode 219. But not only that, we have a guest. We have a guest. Who's our guest, Bruce? I don't know. You have the name. I don't remember. Oh, I'm sorry. Our guest is Tom Cicchetti. See, I couldn't remember that. Hi, Tom. Hi, Tom. Hello, guys. Hi, how are you doing? Tom, this has been a long time coming because, like, what, seven, eight months ago we had the, if you want to be on the show, let us know. And Tom did. And then seven months later we finally did it. So we apologize humbly, deeply, and sincerely. It's all Ron's fault. It's completely my fault, yes. Everything is always my fault. Oh, totally. It's well worth the wait. It's well worth the wait? You don't know. Give it two hours. This could totally suck. Oh, it's going to. It could backfire in two seconds, baby, just like my ass. Well, Bruce, why don't you ask Tom the question you always ask of our guests? What got you into this beautiful hobby, sir? Well, that started back when I was, I'd say, I think it was eight years old, six or eight years old. Every Friday back then, it was pizza night for our family. Dad would take me to the pizza place to pick up the pizza, and there was a pinball machine there, and I always got to play it. I believe the first one I played back then was a Williams World Cup soccer, the old 1978 one. Oh, the 78 one. Oh, boom, boom. Oh, God. That one, I just fell in love ever since then. I've always been a lord to it. The Tommy movie kind of grabbed me back then because my name was in it, and I just loved the music and the pinball parts. I've just been obsessed ever since. That's a good thing. So during your childhood and growing up to your teens or anything, did you still play a lot of pinball, or did it come back to you later on? It went through my teens. I mean, I was born in 72, so I've been through the 70s and 80s and the big arcades explosion back then. But then when the arcades kind of died, and it kind of died for me until I found out that you can actually buy these things and bring them into your house. That was about 2000s. So I've been actively collecting since about 2000, so for the last 23 years. Nice. And how many games have you owned in your 23 years of pinball? How many have I owned? Yeah. Well, according to my pin side thing, I've had 35. Nice. And I currently have 14. Nice. Want to give us a fast lowdown on your list so we know where to rob you? Yeah. Well, in the house, in the house I have a World Cup soccer, the Bally one with the dog, Spider-Man, Walking Dead, Rush Premium, Playboy, Stern Playboy that I just acquired, and an old Bally black belt. and out in the garage because I can't fit them in I have my Silver Ball Mania, Xenon, Flash Gordon Earthshaker, Family Opera Demolition Man goes down because I can only fit so many in the house so I rotate them in and out every six months to a year that's a good thing cool, I like at least half of those choices wow what? I'm not saying there's games I like and there's games you hate, but guess what? We're not to that point yet. Oh, we're not to that point. Okay. So when you bought your first pinball machine, what did you say to yourself? Like, did you know what to do, or were you just like everyone else, picking a poke, hopefully it keeps on running, and then when it didn't, what did you do? Well, actually, back then, I was working for a small operator here in town, and I was more into collecting arcade games at that time, and I made a trade with a guy that was a co-worker for, I traded like two arcade games for a Bally Kings of Steel. That was the first pinball I ever owned. And I pretty much just kind of forced myself to figure out how to do the simple repairs on it and got it working, played it for a while, and then had to get another one. So I bought a Judge Dredd and a Tales from the Crypt, and it's been a sickness ever since. Yes, yes, it has. Welcome to the club. It's a good sickness. And his sickness is longer than my sickness 2000, he beat me I'm probably older than you guys No, not older than me Not older than Bruce I'm the youngest on this call Yes This is awesome What, a half year? That's a full year Yeah But it's been Just a fun time I can't imagine a time where I didn't enjoy Collecting these games and playing them. So the good thing about Tom is he knows the cheapness of some of the games were and then the expensiveness now of what it is. Exactly. Like back when I sold him my perfect condition attack from Mars for $3,000 15 years ago. Yep. God, I want to hurt. But I did trade an Adams family for my World Cup soccer, and I don't regret it because the Adams family was hosed, and World Cup soccer is one of my favorite games, so I still don't regret that. I think you moved up. Oh! The players are taking the field! So, what is your favorite type of game? I see you have a little bit of each. You have some WPC, WPC 95. You've also had some early, you know, Bally's. I've got a good collection of everything, yeah. What's your favorite system to work on? I would probably, I mean, lately I've been getting a lot of sterns, like not the new ones, like the newest game I have is My Rush, and I got a story behind that. But, I mean, I've been getting other sterns, and I've always been kind of against being a stern boy, but it's starting to look that way. But WPC will always be my all-time favorite. That was the best era. That was the era that I really loved. I mean, you can't find a WPC game I really don't like. I bet you there's a couple. Killick's Island? Popeye. I mean, I've been a Popeye fan all my life. Oh, my God. Well, not the pinball. I mean, Popeye, the actual Popeye. Like, ag-gag-gag-gag. Ag-gag-gag-gag-gag-gag. So, I mean, someday if I find one reasonable enough, I'll get one, but I'm not going to go looking for one. Yes, that's the proper answer. Killick's Island, I don't think that's a bad play field. And the toy is cool. I've only played that at the Pinball Hall of Fame in Vegas, and it wasn't, I mean, I'm not just, you know. It was working? It wasn't working 100%. Oh, okay. I'm not trying to start that. Oh, we can kick right into that one. One more guy's been out there five days and worked on, I think, six machines because, you know, they're probably so bad. But, you know, Bruce, he's an asshole. That is true. You are. I've been out there maybe six, seven times since they've opened it, and I've never run across them in there. The Tim. Oh, really? Mr. Arnold? I haven't been to the third one. I've been to the new one. I was at the original one that was next to the theater and the second one, but I haven't been to this one, yeah. I've been to the one that was in the strip mall and then the new one. Yeah. I mean, the new one, it's an amazing location. Yeah. It's a perfect spot. Oh, amazing location. He's right next to the Vegas line, so I don't know how he afforded that. I don't know either. And the building is huge, and there's plenty of room. It's just not laid out right and not done right. Well, he hates kids, though. That's a good thing. Yeah, that's really good. It's like Disney when they make these movies, and they hate some of their clientele because they don't want to follow the right saga, but guess what? Ah! Don't worry about it. They ruined Star Wars. They did ruin Star Wars. They ruined everything. I hate Disney. I do. He does. So what's the Rush story? Well, I have been a Rush fan, like, hardcore all my life. Not all my life. Back when I was a teenager. And I've always, I mean, I have a Rush tattoo. I did a video with Kerry Hardy when the Rush came out. He wanted me to get a fan's perspective when it came out. I always said, when it comes out, I don't care what it costs, I'm getting it. And they announced it. I bought a premium, which is the most money I've ever spent on anything in my life, like, at one time. It was kind of scary, but I don't regret it. And it's just, I mean, I'm looking at it right now, and I'll be buried in it. It's the greatest game. I mean, I'm biased about it, but I don't care. See, Raymond? Another fanboy, Raymond. Another fanboy. I mean, if you remember, I sent you guys an email bitching and complaining about Stern's hate for the game. Well, even now, because now it's... Yeah, I mean, I don't get it. I mean, I've had distributors tell me it sold good, and I've heard people always say, oh, it's a great game, and people love it in tournaments, but why are they not selling it? Why they stopped making it? Yeah, it's weird that they stopped making them, but they're still going to keep making toppers for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which I'm not a topper guy, but that one I would consider because it helps you with the weapon progress. That's the only reason I would spend that much money. It gives you, yeah, it tells you what combos, what albums you have. They did do kind of a poor job on letting you know what weapon you have without having to stop and go through the screen and all that. Ron, can you tell me what weapon you like the best? I love just going for combos. before you even start anything. Then anything you start, you have the weapon. You have the weapon. True. True. Lately, I've been trying to build up my percentage before I start a mode to see how high I can get it. Yeah, that gets too complicated for me. Considering, especially since they changed the scoring on it, where now you have to, before you could get a billion points a mode by just racking stuff up, and now you've got to actually get the percentage up and set the multipliers. That damn Tim Sexton just bringing down all the scoring. God damn it, Jamie. I can hear you. Yeah, but I just recently installed a subwoofer in it and put the expression lights in it. Oh, yeah, expression lights. Oh, man, it's amazing. The thing about the expression lights I keep forgetting is that they're the art blades, too. And you've got to line them up right. Now there's a trick to that. And the other section, it's like, oh, God, I don't want to do this wrong. So in the instructions, I mean, this is a stern thing. In the instructions, it tells you to put the art blade in first and then put in the expression lights, which makes no sense because the expression lights are stationary. They can only go one way. Now, if you put those in first, then you can move the art blade back and forth to line up the artwork. So you need to do it backwards to what they tell you in the instructions. There you go. You've got to do it backwards. Tom's tip. Yeah. You've got to go around back. Oh, my. Very good. Very good. All right, Tom, you ready to help us get through our wonderful checklist of items here that Bruce hasn't read? Absolutely. Kick it off. Kick it off. I will kick it off right now, Bruce. I forgot something about the Sanctum, the Sanctum 24-hour. My push-ups. Huh? Huh? Yeah, exactly. What the hell do you mean, push-ups? So after the first round, and there was, what was it, a total of 16 rounds? 16 rounds. After the first round, I come back out to the place where I had all my crap, and there was two guys there doing push-ups. Like, what are you guys doing? It's like, well, we're going to do 20 push-ups after every round. So however many rounds there are. And I'm there like, wow, that's stupid. Count me in. So, and then there was a fourth, I think we had a fourth. Yeah, we had a fourth guy come over, so we had four of us doing push-ups after every round. By the time we got to the end, it was only two of us still doing them. The two shortest, skinniest guys, I should say, of the four we were doing. Yeah, and we got through 16 rounds, so that's, what's it, 320 push-ups. Mm. And do you feel better? Yeah. It's not that, because you get like an hour and a half to two-hour break between sets, really, because each round takes that long. So I guess it's not quite as impressive. But I thought it was cool. I feel more ripped than ever, Bruce. Buff. Buff. Palette. Buff, palette. That's me. All right. What else do I got here? Stern. Stern, they had a ton of code updates. They updated, like, every Spike game right before Thanksgiving. Yeah. Yeah. And then everyone got mad. Yeah. I wonder why. Because of advertising. Advertising. the first step in their world domination has now started. Oh, yes. That's going to lead to what? Never mind the fact that they did advertising in the 90s. Yes, they did, but it was subtle. Subtle? No, this is more. This is like, look, here's the newest game. You can have the oldest game. Like, my Batman is showing off the new Foo Fighters. And they're like, look how good this game is. And the game you're playing right now sucks. Oh, it really says that? It says the game you're playing right now sucks? It seems like it in some of them, you know. Yeah, okay, Bruce. Like, think if you had, like, a Bond Pro, and you see the beautiful Foo Fighters, you know, on the screen. You're like, wow, I wish I was playing that game instead of this one. Yeah, I like that better. Okay. You could be the hero of your house. You could be the hero of your house and buy another. Well, Bruce, you do realize you can turn that off. Yes, you can. For now. Oh, for now. For now. For now, okay. For now. I really didn't care. I don't look at the screen. Oh, it comes up a lot. You'd be surprised how much it comes up. If it comes up during gameplay, then I would have to draw the line there. No, they're not going to come up during gameplay. That would be something. It would be like a YouTube video. Like, click here to continue. Oh, yeah. Can you imagine if you're playing? Screaming for Flipper is harder. You're playing Rush and you just get to the one in mini wizard modes, and the first thing you see is an ad. Before we go into this mini wizard mode, Stern has many exciting products. Shut the fuck up. They're going to fucking listen to you. Stop! Start hitting the button. Skip, skip, skip, skip. Yeah, you hit the time machine, and all of a sudden there's a diabetes commercial coming up. All right. Diabetes. I love that. Wilford Brimley comes up. Yeah, I shouldn't have given them that idea. They're going to do that now. They're fucking going to do that. Jesus Christ. The screen's already small enough. They're going to have a picture-in-picture ads during the game. Oh, no. I'll shut up now. Yeah, shut the fuck up. They also came out with the Insider Connected app. App, yes. Nobody can get on the first day. Yeah, it crashed immediately because no one can get on. Does everyone here have the app? Yeah, I have it. Okay, so all three of us have it. Okay. So we should all try to get in at the same time right now and see if we crash the system. Yeah, right, watch it crash. The three of us getting in. Let's see. No, I got right in. Let's see. It doesn't fucking remember me. It doesn't remember you. I did have to re-enter my password and I couldn't remember. I haven't had to do that yet. Probably runs on it all the time. Well, what are you doing it on? You got an iPhone? I have an iPhone. See, I got an Android, so it works better. Trying to slog in. Hey, log back in. So who has the most experience points? I have 7,690. Oh, fuck no. Oh, there's experience points? Where's that? Yes, $35.98. It's under your name. Oh, $47.12. See, I'm last. Woo-hoo! I play the least amount of sterns. 471 achievements. How many? 471. Jesus Christ, 306. But how many plays? 1,162. Okay, I have 340 plays and 306 achievements. So my average is actually better. But I do have something I bet Ron doesn't have. the full combo on La Villa Strangiato on Rush. Oh, God, no. I didn't have that. I did that during Fly By Night Multiball. Fly by night, away from here. That was the hardest thing I ever did in my life, and I drained right after because I was celebrating so hard. That's like my ultra ricochet or whatever the hell I did on Dirty Hair, which I did once, and I didn't even know that existed, and I've never seen it on stream or anyone else do it. But look, if I click right now near me where I can play. Yeah? And one of the places I can play at is where, Ron? The Rochester Pinball Collective. Oh, yeah? And where is that? Where is that, Bruce? 349 Quest Commercial Street, beautiful East Rochester, New York. Suite number 2965. Congrats. You finally remembered the name of the place you own. Exactly. Yay. I don't own it all. Yes. Part owner, Bruce. Yes. Ron, we're looking for owners. Come on in. What, we want more owners? Yeah. Hey, come on. Join the fun. Join the pain. Join the pain? Join the pain. You just got to drive out once in a while and work. Wow. You had me before that last line. No, okay, you don't have to work. Just don't take your money. I'd love to get one of those started here in Columbus. We got plenty of people that could do it. You do have a lot of people in Columbus for that. You probably could get it, but it's just, as I'm going to say, and Ron knows this also, get five people you trust and you know we're going to work it and do that kind of stuff. It's really hard. Right now there's about three of us that are serious about it and we've been looking around at locations. It's hard, yeah. It is very hard. It is fun, but you know. Two of the guys are there right now. They've been there since 11 o'clock working on stuff. Putting up shelving and everything else. Too much work. It's too hard. You can be an owner. You can be a private owner. A silent. Yeah, I know. I'll be like the father and son team that owns Jersey Jack. There you go. We'll just take your money. Yeah, I'm just the money. I'm just in the background. You just take my money. Just take my money, guy. There you go. We are looking for if anybody else wants to invest because we're talking about expansion. Oh. Ooh. How do they get a hold of you, Bruce? Whatever you call the website. Rochester Pinball Collective.com or rockpinball.com. ROCPinball.com is much easier. Yep. Or. Or. Slam Tilt Podcast at gmail.com. Do the other ones first, folks. Nah. Bug Rod. Ron will see all the comments. Okay. Yeah. I see the comments. All right. All right. What else do I got here? Oh. TWIP, This Week in Pinball, and then a kineticist of Joint Forces. Or I guess Connecticut has kind of taken over TWIP. Yes. Which is weird. I guess it happened very quickly. Yeah, it's like the third person that's now running TWIP in the past year. It was Jeff Patterson and Will Oding, and now it's Colin. I think it's his name. And they just published that article about everyone's top ten games. Top five. Oh, top five? Was it top five? It was top five. Ah, top five. and of course we were in there with our bottom five yes because we were just different yes to be fair that was actually my idea it was everyone will think that's Bruce's idea but I was like it doesn't fit Slam Tilt we need the worst games I totally agree they transcribed your one last quote there oh I loved it it was fucking awesome it was fucking awesome You don't even have to own pinball machines to be a good podcaster. Yes. I'm there like, oh, God, I don't believe they actually printed that. I loved it. It was fucking awesome. I did look. That didn't give us any new reviews on the website. No new reviews. No new reviews. Coming right at you. We haven't been reviewed. No new reviews. Coming right at you. Yeah, we haven't been reviewed in a while. Eh, no big deal. The people who listen know. Hmm. How did you find us, Tom? That's a good question. I think I was just on iTunes or Spotify looking for Pinball Podcasts a couple years ago and came across it and just been listening ever since. See, he's not afraid of the douche cringiness. Douche cringy? Oh, yeah. That was one of the comments. I'm surprised it shows up under Pinball sometimes because Pinball is not in the title. I know. I guess that was a mistake, kind of, but I don't know. I think it was like one of those related searches kind of thing. Yeah. We don't want to make it too easy to find, you know. No, fuck no. We don't want to get too popular. No. Oh, and Twip Season. The Twippies. Oh, yeah. We noticed. That's going to be soon. The shitstorm's already starting. Oh, it's going to be great. I already have a Beavis and Butthead clip ready. Good, good. I've been saving it for like six months. And did you notice they picked the host for the Twips also? Yes, it's Emoto and Macho. Yeah. Of course, I don't know his name. That's pretty bad. I don't know his name either. He did Macho, but more importantly, he did the Puppet Pals. Yeah, Puppet Pals, yes. I prefer the Puppet Pals over the Macho. Of course, you do. Yeah. Anything where little puppets are saying really inappropriate things is way better. Fucking awesome. Yes. They passed on us from Iran. You see that? They passed. Maybe we'll get lucky enough to get the old award, you know, handing out some awards there. Then I'd have to fly in for that one night. You would actually fly into Texas to present an award? Yeah, with the limo. A limo. You would show up with a limo. Yeah. Okay. Do my best Ric Flair. Woo! Woo! With the fucking big, humongous robe made of a quilt. That's right, baby. We're here to present the award for the most consecutive original theme games to American Pinball, baby. That's the next thing I got here. You know, the next three American games are going to be original themes, baby. Yeah. They might not get to the third if they do that. They're not going to get to the third. They keep that up. I don't understand that. I can understand one because one could be homebrew. I mean, unless that is completely your gimmick, like we don't do licensed games. we are going to do original themes only. The original theme could still be a popular person or thing, because like they did with Houdini. You could do Tesla, maybe, or that kind of stuff. Jesus, yeah, Tesla. I'm sure that would go over well. You could get the Shocker. The Shocker. That would be fun. I like that idea. See? But, I mean, you know. I'll remind you that Jersey Jacks, their one original theme they did is their lowest seller. Of course it is, because it was the worst game. No, it's not the worst. It's the best game. It was the worst game. It's incredible, Bruce. It's great. It's the worst game in a minute. It's the worst seller. Worst game. Hand in hand. Everyone asks Jack Guarnieri about pirates. I don't know. Everyone wants fucking pirates. I would be asking him, like, I won't ask you if you're making any more pirates. I'm just going to ask you, when is Pirates going to get to 1.0 code? Yeah. Every other game they have, let's settle them, John. Tom, what's your favorite JJP? Well, I was about to interrupt. Are you trying to say, Bruce, that Dialed In is worse than Toy Story? Toy Story, I think, shoots better. No. Yes. There's three shots in it. There's four shots in it. There's four shots. What? Are you counting the launch? Yes. It's a shot. It is a shot. It's just like the slam ramp on No Good Gophers. It's a shot. But still, I think it flows better. No. It's hard not to flow when you only have three shots. Well, guess what? It comes right back to your flipper most of the time. It's even better. The problem with Toy Story is it's just not fun. It's just not fun, Toy Story. It could have been the best game they ever did. It could have been, and they got one, two, or three. But we picked shitty four. yeah so what is your favorite JJP that's tough I mean I don't really get to play that many JJPs because we don't have them around here much that is the right answer I mean we okay so we had I got in trouble at our local bar where I play leagues at because I used to make Instagram posts all the time about the dead that sat there for two years and oh it wasn't even powered on it just sat there but I mean I've always wanted to play it but it was always broke Guns N' Roses yeah it was fun the first three or four times you play it and you're like okay I've heard Live and Let Die already okay I'm done now what but I will admit Elton John looks like it could be I mean for what it is it looks more fun than anything else I've played on JDB And I played it at Expo, and I had fun playing it. Same here. I wanted to play more, but I didn't want to stay in the line for another half hour. And how much are you going to spend for that? You're going to spend $12,000? I'm not. Of course not. No one's going to. It's going to fucking bomb. They need to get cheaper. That they do need to do. But if it was a more reasonable price, and if the next third rumored game wasn't coming out that I'm definitely getting, I would consider Elton John because my wife and I were big Elton John fans. She would love to have one in a collection, and, you know, happy wife makes happy collection. So, Tom, what do you think is coming out next? I'm going with the Jaws rumor. You are going with the Jaws rumor. I mean, I've watched Jaws since it came out. Okay, now I have a problem, Tom. Who's been right easily, me or Ron? About what? It depends on what you're talking about. Yeah, what are we talking about? About Sterns. That depends on what we're talking about. Best Sterns coming out. I have a Jaws Translate on my wall that I bought from Christopher Franchi. Okay. I bought it from him at the Texas Pinball Festival two years ago. It was the first one after COVID. And he told me, he said, he's like, I'm not saying anything, but it's the exact dimensions that you can put right in the machine when Stern releases it in a couple years. Hmm. So you think it's coming out? I hope it's coming out, but I hope it's not going to be bond prices where they're going to be like, oh, that one's making it, so we're going to charge you $5,000 more than everything else. Because then I'll be upset. And that will be probably the last brand new game of it. You know, you've spent how much for your premium? Let's say $9,000, right? $10,000. Yeah, we'll say I'm supposed to pay $9,000. Yeah, exactly. We'll say that. I technically work for a distributor here in Columbus. I mean, I don't do – I'm on the operations side, not the distributing side. Gotcha. If that makes sense So I got a deal on it There you go But it would have been And it still makes you great Which is absurd Yeah Yeah So, yeah, that's way beyond the max. If it wasn't Rush, I wouldn't have bought it. That's plain and simple. It would have never been bought unless it was 15 years later when someone hosed it out and I got it used on Pennside Marketplace. So what you're saying is theme is important. Theme is, yeah. With that one, yeah, it could have been $20,000. I would have sold my daughter to get it. Oh, man. Well, she's 22 and been living at home and hasn't paid rent, so, yeah. Oh, definitely, yeah. If anybody wants to purchase Tom's daughter for her new baby, come right as at. But, no, you know, it's just getting nutty, the price. Oh, it's ridiculous. And it kind of makes me wonder with their little, I wouldn't say it's a closeout, but it's looking like it's starting to go that direction. Fire sale. Yeah. We can lower the price on the games that nobody wants. Well, okay. To talk about pricing, there is one manufacturer that lowered pricing. Pinball Brothers. Wow, you segwayed right into that perfectly. Yeah. Yeah, and the reason why, they did because they can't sell their other fucking machines, so they had to lower it. We got to keep the Mr. Playline moving. Hey, what the fuck it up? Shouldn't they buy Pedretti? Aren't they like just one thing now? I don't know if they own each other or not. Here's the thing, though. I'm looking at this. It's got everything in it. If you bought it a year ago, you get the same exact machine with Ripley on it. Ripley on it. But it's cheaper. Yes. So do you think that they pretty much were slapping Stern with the dueling glove, saying, you know, look, we can put out a game with a different package that's limited edition, but we're going to go backwards on the pricing instead of going up. That's the way I kind of like it. I honestly think it's – I don't think Queen is doing great. No, I'm talking about the Alien, though. I don't think Alien's great. Everybody wanted Ripley on it, though. They're selling some of them. Oh, and they put her on it. That was the weird thing. So at Expo, they had what was supposed to be the new Translight, which was Ripley, but you couldn't see her face. But she was in the software. Like, they have clips with her. I heard one call out from her at Expo. Yeah. I heard none. I must suck. But they had, now they have the full all-out Ripley version where the entire cabinet, like, the side is Ripley. They have another Translight now that's just Ripley. They have two quotes from her on the head, on the side to the head. Yeah. Here's the thing, though. I kind of like the first Translight better, even though you can't see her face. I kind of want to get one. Yeah. I mean, and if you order before December 31st, you get both Translights. Yes, you do. And it's under eight grand. Yeah. And I like the game. And the code, they have like, what did it say? 33 new movie clips with her in it. And the code is done by all the same people who did the original code. So they've just been adding the stuff in. it's not a bad game oh it is no you're wrong it's not a bad playing game no it's both it's bad when the computer in it fails and you keep having to get new ones and stuff like that that's what worries me about it more than anything else that and also when I turn on ours every day at the RPC I have to go back around and turn it back off and on because guess what doesn't turn on behind the fucking time the monitor oh oh and this is a newer one this is one of the pinball brother ones yeah the only way you get the new Ripley shit is if you have the pinball brother version if you have the highway version fuck you basically too bad yeah you're done you're done it's a shit show that game the funny thing is when did that come out originally by highway three years ago no way longer than that COVID COVID. I remember I went to Pinbrew here in Ohio. It was the first show ever anywhere after COVID that had it, and they had the Alien game there. So that was 2020, and the game was out before that. Yeah, it was like 2016, 15, 16. I mean, have you heard the rumors? 17. Okay. February 2017. That supposedly Dutch has a Back to the Future license? No. Yeah, with Art by Christopher Franchi, supposedly. And they want to get all the Big Lebowski's done, which... Yeah, we stole... We stole all 27 guys of Big Lebowski! Do they still have... Because, for those who don't remember at home, they had the deal where if you were an early adopter, i.e. the people who got screwed initially and didn't get their game, that the new buyers of the game were basically paying for your game. So you would get your game. Did they eventually make all the original buyers whole? I won't tell anybody that. I'm trying to remember if I read that somewhere. I don't recall. No, you're right with what you're saying. They did say that. They have to sell three or two or three new ones to get one person in the past to get their game. Yeah, but they're saying now, like, you better get them because, you know, we're going to move on, basically. So I look back, and I was like, when was that expo where they debuted it? That's what I thought. I was wrong. I thought it was 2015. Maybe 2014. It was 2014. I looked it up. It's 2014. 2014. Hey, you've only been waiting for your game fucking eight years, asshole. Nine years. No, no, that's almost ten years, Bruce. A fucking decade you've been waiting for your game. Think about that. Half the people are probably even playing pinball anymore after that. Yeah, probably not. I mean, is it the longest production run, though, ever? Because remember, they debuted it at Expo. But don't forget, they didn't produce games for three or four years anyway. But they didn't produce games for like two years. Yeah, so guess what? Because they had issues because they used all kinds of music that they didn't have licensing for. They had to get Roger Sharp in there to smooth things over. Even though they announced it in 2014, they didn't put out a game until 2017. And then they had the licensing issues. And then 2018, they started putting out a couple, like trickles. And then by 2020, I think they stopped for COVID. Well, no. Even before then, they lost the company that was actually making the games, that whole thing, and they just flat-out lied to people. And then a minute later, yeah, we totally lied. Yeah, we totally lied. Hey, anybody want one? Still want to buy one in front of me? Yet they really stayed committed, like, we're going to make these damn things. I like the game. It's great. It's a fun game. I got to play it at Expo for the first time where it didn't crash or fail all the times, or it was already broken. Are they still including the rugs with all the ones now, or is that just an early thing? That was the early, if you're an early adopter, you still get your rug. But you don't get, you know, if you're a guy who just wants it now, you know. Right. So can I call it now? Yeah. I'm going to call it now. Just like, you know, with the JJP thing, Toy Story 4, we're going to get Back to the Future, the musical, not the movies. Oh, God, no. Yeah. You watch it. It's going to happen. No, it's going to be another one of those, we got to go back, Doc, instead of the real voices you're going to have. Oh, God. The voice actors like they did in the Data East machine. Well, did you know American Pinball is making the signature edition machines? The ones that come with the lunchbox, they were on the line. Oh, and with the lenticular, I know you like that term, lenticular translight. Yeah. Which does look cool. Lenticular is good. Oh, it comes with a thermos, too, I see. And Glowtech painted sculpts. And they got the Duke Kaboom or whatever actor dude showing it off there. Does it ask, oh, kaboom, when he fucking farts? Jesus Christ. Oh, man. But I guess that's somewhere in that article. I'm reading Nap Arcade. Hi, Nap Arcade. I'm reading the article where somewhere in here is about the three original themes. I just don't understand that. I don't understand it. Why go for three original themes? Because you're going to still be charging $8,000. That's what we're bringing it back, baby. It's all about original themes, baby. Come on. It's all about being original. We need American Dream. I can see one being original. Maybe the, you know, the homebrews. One of the whitewater sequel, supposedly. Yeah, and the homebrews. That's what I heard the one was going to be, but that's also what the deep root one was supposed to be, right? Yeah, right. So, whatever. But, I mean, you know, maybe the homebrew and the whitewater, but three in a row? You're not going to get to the third one if you do that. Unless whitewater two is fucking awesome, which I hope it is. Whitewater two, electric boogaloo. Boogaloo. Dennis Nordman in a fucking suit fucking doing a disco. Stern Pinball confirms Black Knight topper production. So for the game we're not making anymore, but we're going to make the topper. Oh, I'd love to see how much this was. What was it originally? $500? $500. Yeah, I think it was $500. The best topper ever made. $500. I can't wait to see. Now we have $2,000 toppers, and we can't sell them. They did confirm it, though, so that is coming. They won't make rushes anymore, but they're going to make black money toppers. Oh. I know. Fucking terrible. I'm sorry. I'm bitter about that. But they're going to make rush toppers. Yeah. It took them a year to get the expression lights out. That's true. That's true. Luckily, knock on wood, I haven't had any trouble with any node boards or ramps or issues. Oh, now you did it. I know. I know. Three times. Let's see. What else we got here? I figured I'd bring this up because I have my little my discussion not discussions, my little things where I say if you have locations you like make sure you visit them because a lot are going fucking bye bye Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum I think that's the full name we're trying to keep that one alive because they're still in a place that they're in and yeah, development it's a strip mall You know, they just want to knock that down and make a whole new place. I've never been there, but it has a special meaning to me because when I got into the hobby, that's where all the repair guides were. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Marvin3m.com was where they were all. Rec Games Pinball, yeah. But all Joshua Clay's guides were hosted there before he had his pinball. I stopped in there. I had to go up to Michigan for work, and I made sure to stop in there. And it's a fun place. They got some games in there that are, not just, not the pinballs. I mean, there's not that many pinballs. No, there's a lot of other stuff. The mechanical games are, they either, like, entertain the shit out of you, or they make you, like, question your life. You're like, what did I just watch? I mean, there's, like, some weird electromechanical games. What's it called? Was it Dr. Chill a lot? He gets electrified? Yeah. And there's, like, you know, like, assassination stuff. And, like, weird just, I mean, the games, it's cool, But it's like, wow, I didn't even know who made this. And I guess Pinball Pete's is having similar issues. So if you have a location you like, make sure you visit it. And visit Rochester Pinball. Because you never know when these things might be gone. I mean, Pinball Pete's was started. That was Tim Arnold and his brother. Forty years ago. Over 40 years ago. Where they, yeah, right place, right time. They ended up in a place. then they got grandfather in when they changed the law so there couldn't be arcades there, and then the arcade boom hit. And that's how Tim Arnold made all his money, made a fuck ton of money from that. That's where he learned how to hate kids. Yeah, because he had the pinball, you know, which was mostly teenagers and stuff, but then when you have the video games, you get the younger kids, and, you know. Yeah. That just. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, boy. Let's see. What else was... Oh, IAPA. Yes. Was in Florida last week, I think. It was the weekend before Thanksgiving. Well, it's the week. It's not on the weekend. It's during the week. So it wasn't last week. It was the week before Thanksgiving. And, yeah, I saw Jersey Jack had a cool little display thing there. Oh, isn't that close? Yeah. They had a lot of the Elton Johns there, which I was listening to the interview again. He did with Loser Kid when he was talking about, like, the flipper seems stronger. And I said, well, you know, you could just turn the power up. Like, are you saying just the power was up on those? Like, no, the power on those was the default, the ones at Expo. It's like you guys did something. Oh, yeah. You might not know what it is because you're not in the tech side, But they did something, because that thing plays totally different than any other Jersey Jacket they've had before. It has slingshots that work. Hey, is that the paddle, this pong? They look like 50-volt slingshots. I'd be curious to look at the manual. They're not playing badminton back and forth. No. Yeah. I like what I see on John. Ron, it's calling you. It's Tom K., though. Oh, Nicholas. It's like I watched it on the screen when everyone's playing it, and I just had an idea of what this thing would be like when I played it, and it was exactly what I thought it would be. I wasn't disappointed in it. Yeah. All you need is that chorus shot. That's what I call it when you have the little spinner you hit that comes around to feed the upper flipper shot. I just call it the chorus shot. It's in Rush 2. Also, it's the same thing. You hit the spinner, it comes around. I love whenever I see that, I just take immediate notice. Like, hmm. Then I see a full orbit, you know, come all the way around. Like, hmm. Ronnie Likey. Ronnie Likey. I mean, you just put certain elements on a play field and I'm easy to please. I was very impressed with the piano, too. I mean, just him sitting there. Oh, yeah, the display. That was fun to watch. And the animatronic. It's almost like he said, you know, I am Steve Urchia. I did Elvis and he didn't move enough. We're going to make this thing move more. And it does. Like, he's smiling, he looks in a good mood. His hands are playing the piano. His hands are playing the piano, yep. The only thing is, okay, this is kind of morbid, but I'll say it. On the display, it's just as pictures of Elton John, and it does transitions to other pictures of Elton John. You know what I'm talking about? Holy fuck, that guy's gotten old. Well, yeah. But, I mean, you see Elton John, and then there's a slow transition, and then there's another picture of Elton John, and another picture of Elton John. Well, the last couple of wakes I went to, they would have pictures of the deceased, and they would do transitions to music. Morphing into each other. Morphing into different. It looks exactly like this. The cave looks. Wow. That's all that's in my head whenever I see that. Excellent. Is that bad? I wouldn't think of that if I ever played it again. Yes. It's like, I'm at a wake. Don't jump, Ty. Oh, because it's time to dance. Everybody was talking about how the music wasn't going to be good for pinball, but I made sure when I played at Expo to pick what I thought would be the slowest song on the option just to see if it kept up with the gameplay, and it did. I mean, it didn't make any difference. It still sounded good. Yeah. I mean, I don't think the music had anything to do with negativity towards it. Sad songs they say, which isn't in the game fail. Yeah, that one might have been different. Or I guess why they call, I guess that's why they call it the blues. But they do have I'm Still Standing. I'm still standing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. What else? Oh, and after IAAPA was Freeplay Florida. Yes. Which I was not there this year because they moved it. So I would have had to have driven 45 minutes to an hour after landing in the plane. and I didn't want to do that. But I had the winners of the tournament. Ooh, hey, you finally did something. Yeah, thanks. No problem. Yeah, because I didn't have the tournament winners for the last, was it Houston Open or whatever? I failed. Let's see. Ariel Dutton won the women's title. Congrats. In Classics, Eric Stone got knocked out in the first round and did his Facebook post where he said how he sucks and he'll never win one again and, you know, he can't win the big one anymore. Yeah. So Frank Spazzaro won classics. And then the main tournament was won by Eric Stone, who couldn't win the big one anymore. Wow, surprise, surprise. As soon as I saw his post, I'm there like. We called it. We all called in our chat. Yeah. I'm like, okay, he's going to win the main tournament the next day. I guarantee it. Guarantee it. Guarantee. Guarantee. He's got to stop with those posts. It's like every time he loses, it's just the same thing. Stop. Stop. There was the Dutch Open. I missed you on that, so I failed. I'm sorry. And then there was the Rock Fantasy Fall Open, Bruce. Which you should owe me a thank you for. Wait a minute. Why do I owe you a thank you? Who's the one who told you about it? Oh, was that you? Yes, that was me, ass munch. Oh, sorry. Ass munch. Yeah, and I haven't played good there in a while. Yeah, well, that's typical lately. Well, yeah, whatever. So what they do is they do, well, we'll just say there was ten rounds of match play. The first seven were at Rock Fantasy. And then the top eight played three more rounds at Quinn's Pins. It's a bowling alley. Where they have a live band there. That was interesting. Which you got in, if you were in the tournament, you'd have to pay the cover charge. Wow. Yeah. How much is the cover charge? I have no idea. I never asked. at the end of the seventh round, I was in a four-way tie for two spots for the eighth spot. Oh, my. And I had to play roller disco, which if our listeners remember, that's the one I was playing where the entire backbox opened up in the middle of my game and all the crap on the top of the game fell on the top glass. So that was fun. But that didn't happen this time. So I finished second in the four-player game. So I moved on. There you go. So my final three games were on Royal Rumble, which I love Royal Rumble. And I won that one. And then the second game was on Guardians of the Galaxy. Now, Alberto, my nemesis, Alberto Santana, was in first place by a large margin. It was one of those where he could kind of mathematically win it before the final game. He got a billion plus on Guardians. I had 300 million, and I took second. And then the final game was on Monsters. And I got 100 million, my highest score of Monsters I've ever gotten. Good Monsters. I did some kind of multiplier thing. I think I got, like, every multiplier going somehow, and then it landed in the super jackpot area, and I got a big super jackpot. And I finished second. I was excited. First time, that's the highest finish I've had there in a long time. Congratulations. But, Bruce, I thought of you during the Munsters game. You know why? Why? You know how you have your bitching about, what is it, cue mode? Oh, yeah. A lightsaber duel. You have a certain term you use for it. Cock block. Yes. Cock block. Yes. Yes. So I'm on my third ball of Munsters, and I have the Monster Madness wet. So I hit the scoop, and instead of that starting, it starts some kind of switch frenzy thing. Yep. That I could not time out, and I thought of you, Bruce. How'd it feel? It sucked. It does suck, doesn't it? I mean, it would have sucked more if I drained out and didn't get the Monster Madness, but I did. I was able to hit a shot, trap up, hit a shot, trap up, and let it time out, and then I got to Monster Madness. So that was cool. I'm surprised you didn't go off on your favorite programmer because he did that one. I can't see anything else anymore. I'm fucking blind from that guy. Yeah, I was watching that they did a Venom launch party, The ones they do at Ace Kogi in California where they do the heads up, where they have them right next to each other and they do challenges, which is cool. And there was certain points where, yeah, they did the light show. And you can't fucking see anything. And even Carl D'Python Anghelo saying, like, yeah, you can't see anything. I was in one mode on Venom. I'm actually trying to hold the balls, and it's still going. Now, I'm not going to be mean like you telling people to retire and stuff, but he does need to calm that down. Yeah, what the fuck? It is, yeah, it's crazy. I can't see. I played it on RPC, and I got one of those things where it just starts flickering in full strobe mode. And you can't see anything. You're like, what the fuck? No, I can't see anything. And you trap up. Wait, I was trapped up, and it was still going. I'm like, what the fuck? I had to play it in a league match last week, and I don't have much experience on Venom, but I played a couple times. The whole play field goes black, and all of a sudden it's like, hey, here's all the flashers. Pow. And I'm like, what the fuck? I said, why? And I was telling Ron, I've been working on a Playboy that I picked up, the third one, and I put new LED flashers in everything, and I started playing it, and I can't see now. I'm like, fucking Dwight, that's got to be. I looked it up. Yep, sure as hell. He was the one that designed the software. Well, to be fair, they didn't have LED flashers in their original stuff. No, but it's still, the way it goes off, it's pretty, you're like, damn. I told you. I'm going to get a, next fucking expo he's talking about, I'm going to get a fucking flasher. Put it right in his fucking eye in the back room. And the video! Okay. I'm through the main category, so we need to know what game you like and what game you hate. It's something we ask of all our guests. You're not going to want to ask me that. Okay, so the game you hate will be Star Wars or something, but okay. All right, what do you want first, love or hate? Love, because I want to hear the hate afterwards. All right, love. I got this written down. So, rush would be too easy because that's a given. That's number one. It's never going to get beaten. So, it's not fair to pick that one. World Cup soccer was my grail game. So, can't pick that one either. Right now, as we speak, I have to say my game that I play more than anything and can't stop is The Walking Dead. That game is, if you just want to go up and play for an hour and get your ass kicked every time, that's the game you want to play. Something about The Walking Dead, if it's set up right and it's dialed in, you're either going to destroy it or it's going to destroy you. And it's a blast to play. Borg just nailed it with it. I know everybody bitches about the pop bumper exit and everything, but you can defeat that. All you got to do is nudge it. But, I mean, the software is perfect. The game layout is perfect. The theme is – it implements well. It's just – I hated the game when it first came out. I found one, started playing it, bought it. Now it's up there. It's like 1B on my favorite game boss. So pro or premium? I have a pro. I don't think that the crossbow thing is worth it. I don't think the lifting the ramp up for the bicycle girls. No, it's not. I agree. What I miss is the one thing that's next. What I miss the most from a premium is the spinners. I would love to have spinners on this. But it's not an oh, my God in that game. I'd rather have a pro. No, I have my own list of, like, what games, like, pro and premium, where it's, like, the pro is better than the premium, and The Walking Dead is one of them. Yes, totally agree. Game you hate. Game I hate Now The question's not overrated game Because that would be medieval manners or the Adams family Because those are both the most overrated games Actually Game I hate Is Star Wars Hold on I'm going to mute you I have reasons The launch The launch shot is trash The layout is boring It makes Led Zeppelin look like it's creative. The multiplier whole thing is, I get it, but it's too fucking confusing. The whole button smash thing to hit the TIE fighter, I stopped playing Tekken and Mortal Kombat back 20 years ago. And the premium, the only thing that saves the premium is the overdone, hyped up steroid use of the supercharger from the getaway. So that's my hate for it Plus it kicks my ass every time I play it in league So that's why Okay I love you Ron Oh it's slow clap I couldn't have said it better myself Man I love you man Where's Zach I need our Zach on here to defend us here Oh nope he's too busy buying a game now given that I did hate The Walking Dead when I first knew about it when it first came out too The Walking Dead code in the beginning was shit though yeah well it had to be completely redone yeah by Lyman wait a minute we don't actually have assets shit okay we gotta restart that I can't use clips from the show this is a problem I have the Cleveland code in mind so I got all the TV show clips in there That totally makes it more fun to play. Oh, yeah. But I got Walking Dead and Spider-Man right next to each other, so I got, like, Lyman's greatest hits right there. See, he has Spider-Man, Bruce. Spider-Man's great. I love Spider-Man. My wife loves it more than I do. Spider-Man or Star Trek? Spider-Man. Ah, yes. All right, you've redeemed yourself in my eyes. Oh, yeah. We're cool now. I mean, they're pretty similar, but Spider-Man's better. Spider-Man got my wife through a very hard time too I have to say that I mean if we're going to if I can go that way for a second she was diagnosed with breast cancer last year about this time and she went through three surgeries two different tumors removed and her escape from all the bullshit was coming down here and turning the games on and And that's, it just made it worth it to have them. Definitely. And congratulations. Is she doing better now? She's totally clear. She got everything. Love and collaboration. Two weeks ago, she had her mammogram, and everything's clear. Everything's good. But, yeah, that's just one more step that pinball helped people get through a tough time. And that was her exit. She came down here and put her AirPods in, played Spider-Man, beat the shit out of – I hear her cussing, like, how the fuck do I beat fucking Green Goblin? I'm like, what? And it was great just watching her do that. That's a good thing. Well, congratulations on the remission and the good news. That's a great thing. Yep. Appreciate it. No problem. That's a great thing. Well, now we have our favorite topic of all time. Do you have it? I have it. I'm ready to rock, baby. So would you or would you not buy that? Yeah, fuck yeah! All right. I'm ready for this. We got a lot of them, too. Oh, shit. Well, before we start with, we should say. Tell them how we do this, Bob. Well, we have, go to eBay while you're driving. No while you driving or while you on the phone From eBay in the search box you going to put the number Bruce gives you for an auction And we going to say whether we would or would not buy that But I'm going to do one quickly here. Okay. And it's going to be 386. Hold on. We've got to get 386. You know this one, Bruce. 386-298-178-525. And it is an Elvira banner. Yes. to support the Lewiston Victim Support Fund, Lewiston, Maine. And it's right now up at $227.50, 14 bids for this banner. So check it out. It's for a good cause. Yes, it is. Blood Red Kiss, the Blood Red Kiss edition. And do not be scared by the zero feedback. It's from the New Robert Englunds Pinball League headquarters. We will vouch for this one. We will vouch for this one. And you know our word is as good as Ron's. The highest word possible is as good as Ron's. Very good. Okay. But, no, it isn't for a very good cause. It's for Lewis and Vixen Support Fund. Definitely, if you're interested in helping out and you want an Elvira House of Horrors, definitely. Banner. You know, grab it. Banner. Yeah. Not the machine. Not the game. If you got that for $200-something, that would be. It would be great. Wow. It's a beautiful game. And it's the Blood Red Kiss edition. I don't know if I mentioned that. Yes, I did. The new one. Okay, so I'm going to give you a choice now in the beginning. Oh, okay. Good, bad, or extreme? Oh, Jesus. It's like the Rush game, Rush 2049. Yes. Good, bad, extreme. Let's start with good. Good. Okay. Give me two seconds. Can I get to it? Yeah, he's so prepared. No, I am. Right here. Ticket number 145-441-982-791. An Avengers Pro. $6,000. Or best offer. Or best offer. Ah. All right, let's catch it. It's the Orange County Pinball People. Yes, they're my favorite guys I pick on. 100% positive. Let's see. We have pictures. It's got playfield wear. I playfield shooter wear, which I know some people are very anal about. But guess what? It was on location. It's not a new machine. Oh, and it's the Elwyn Avengers, we should say that. Yes. It's a good one. It's a good request. Yeah. And the back's a little beat up. Like, they dragged it across the floor a lot. So how much, what do the pros go for now? I think 66 or 67. Plus, it does our best offer. We go 55. A couple of dings in the side art, but, yeah, it's got a couple of dings. I'd go 55, 53, 55. You might get yourself a newer pro stern. Yeah, if I was local. Yeah, as in California, which in California usually is not good deals. Would you or would you not buy that, Ron? If I was local, sure. Okay. I would. I would try to offer a little bit less. You're saying 53, 52? I would start at 55. Okay, I think so. That's fair. I think it's a fair offer. Yeah, good answer. I mean, there's no damage to it or anything. There's a couple of scuff marks on the side body and the back, but who plays the back? Right, yeah. Well, speak for yourself. Ticket number 276-159-932-046. Over 120 arcade games, pinball machines, huge 80s and 90s collection. $10,000. God, this brings back bad memories. It's like a warehouse type thing. You've got to read the whole thing, Ron. Oh, okay. Oh, there's more? No, there's funny. Okay. All right. Item description. I assume this is the funny part. Well, time has come to sell my collection. 2,400 square foot warehouse filled with well over 120 coin-operated machines from the 80s and 90s and some pre-1980s mechanical pins. 60 of these games retired from the Pinball Arcade Museum in St. Pete when closed due to COVID. Let's see. If you are looking to open the next awesome barcade restaurant, this is your time to own this collection. Bonus. Also have non-coin-operated speedball, air hoike, I think I meant hockey, pool table, hockey, pool ball, shuffleboard, and more. Have a driving game, alpine skier, and more I can't even get to. This is the entire warehouse clean out. Well over $350,000 value. And $400,000 if sold all retail piece by piece. Or pice by pice. Entire collection. $300,000. I don't want the traffic or deal with people. Just one person that can handle this will fill a 40-foot container or two, will have forklift, and can help load. You can have trailer dropped and left for us to load, add $1,000 for this service, or can load yourself. Here's the deal. This listing is for deposit only, non-refundable, $10,000. balance paid in cash with a 3% discount or bank wire no discount before machines load it. You will have 7 days to complete full payment and 30 days to have machines removed. The sale is final. Okay, so what does that mean? $300,000 is for this fucking thing instead of $10,000. This is only for the deposit. Hmm. And he's saying 120 coin operating machines are going to fit in two containers? Yeah, he's on crack with that too. he's a well a 40 foot or two yeah let's see uh oh there's a hurricane oh my oh I bought that game at an auction once and I sold it three days later yeah I'm sorry yeah you did smart well you learn well I had a comet and I had a cyclone yeah exactly oh true yeah but now it's like wow this is worse than both of those and you look at his name look at his name ass man I'm an ass man she all comes around to fun doesn't it would you or would you not buy that no no no so was this the bad or was this the extreme this is the extreme oh we still got others but we had but when we had Mark Panaccio on who did Hurricane he was like let's not talk about that game let's not talk about that game it had so much potential when they just it did it did the big ramp was cool the big ramp was cool listen to me everything I said It's with the big factor. But it was basically Comet with a big-ass ramp going around it. Yep. Are you ready for the next one, boys and girls? Yes. Hit me. 2-9-5-8-6-7-8-4-3-9-2-1. Oh. What the hell is this? I first thought that was a birthday cake when I looked at it. How big is this thing? It doesn't look that big. The Remco RoboCop electronic tabletop pinball machine. Is that a real play field? I mean, how big is it? I can't really tell from the picture. And there's no real description. Other than it's an electronic tabletop pinball machine. In mint condition. Super rare find. Well, you go by the screws in the back. It's pretty small. yeah it's like a tiny it's like a toy handheld thing is it a screen or is it a real thing it looks like an LCD screen I don't know but it looks like it almost is a play field of I can't zoom in close enough to see yeah the pictures are not the best let me look up Remco or Remco Robocop let's see handheld museum there it is electronic pinball it has real tilt action it takes four double a batteries so no it is not big and yeah it's a screen it's just a screen what you're seeing i think bruce is burning because i see in the in the picture for the flyer it's like a digital screen and it's like it's it's one of those where you can see what it is even when the screen's off. Is it turned on or turned off in the picture? In the flyer I'm looking at, it's turned on, and then the picture next to it's off. But would you buy this for $120? I would not. No. The screen actually looks pretty cool. Yeah, but all the wording is sideways, and the buttons are sideways. I know. It's like, which way are you supposed to hold it? I don't know. If you buy this game, there will be trouble. There will be trouble. So not a buy on $100. No, no. Sorry. Okay. Extreme or wow or not that bad? How many do we have left, Bruce? Four. Okay. Okay. Save the extreme for last. Okay. Ticket number 394-877-467-821. When you say ticket number, I feel like sometimes we should go to the service desk of, like, one of the pinball companies and just start reading off tickets. Okay, here we go. We got, wow, 1979 Valley Star Trek pinball machine. Professional text. Kirk Spock Bones McCoy. Make your own head, apparently. It's selling cool stuff. Zero feedback. And you've got a Space Invaders monitor. $2,500. Does it not have a head? No. It's got a good little bottle. Okay, well, wait a minute. This is a classic collectible for any fan of the franchise. With professional techs working on it. I don't understand what that means. This machine features Kirk, Spock, Bones, and McCoy. It was made in the United States. It needs a back piece computer board, which I looked into getting. It was only $500. I just haven't had the money nor the time to work on it as much as I would. I did. Which I did. I did. Does he mean the backbox is missing or the board? Missing. There's not a picture of the backbox. I'm just glad to know that he looked into getting it. I mean, at least he made the effort. Yeah. He didn't make effort to take the glass off. Or the rubbers. The broken rubbers. But he's throwing in a Space Invaders manual. Yeah, he's throwing in a Space Invaders manual. It has the Star Trek manual, but he's also throwing in a Space Invaders manual. And how much is he asking for this thing? $2,500. Or best offer. Yeah, my best offer is... Is five bucks. No, I think... Come on. You get parts out of it. $10. Oh, Jesus. No, I would not... He knows if those wires are cut or not. I would not buy that, Bruce. It needs a back piece computer. It reminds me of the Earthshaker I bought from a state auction. It was listed as it might need a new CPU board. Yeah. So I bought it. I got this Earthshaker for $1,000, and it was hosed. I had to take it home, tear it apart, everything. It was missing the CPU board. Oh. And they listed it as it might need a new CPU board. Well, that's close enough. That's close enough. Apparently they weren't lying. No, they were not lying. Okay, you ready for the next one, guys? Yep. Ticket number 295-989-153-429. This is all for Ron. What's a hot tip? It's a solid state hot tip pinball machine from a buyer, seller with 100% positive feedback. Let's see, $1,000. Okay. Okay. Let's see. It has a nice little description with actual bullet points. It has been professionally serviced, starting with the light box. Original board set were not present. However, they were replaced with new Rotten Dog Combo. Which is not bad because it's a System 4. The power distribution board was recapped. Every assembly on the machine was serviced. Every switch is clean and adjusted. all play field and lamp sockets, replaced with new ones, displays replaced with LED pin scores, new line cores, basically a lot of stuff done to this. Yep. For $1,000. $1,000. Or best offer. How bad? And it's in New Jersey. This is a pretty good deal. Yeah, let's look at it. It's in New Jersey. It's in Clementon. It's right by Philly. And look at the chime boxes. They are really fucking clean. They are. I mean, the current average on pin side on hot tips is 1,700. Exactly. I think this is a great deal. Yeah. Is that the way they did it? They had, like, three chimes on one and then one chime by itself? Wow. Yep, just like that. Yeah. And it's got pin score displays in it also. I would jump on it if I was in that area. Yeah. Ron, here you go. You can get a hot tip. I would love a tip. Just a tip, though. Just a tip. Just a tip. All right. Hey, that was the good. We would buy that, or I would buy that. We would buy that. I think Ron should buy that right now. No. What? Do it. No. Do it, Ron. No. Do it. Do it now. Do it now. Do it now. Get to the choppa. Get to the choppa. Do it now. Okay, ticket number. Is this extreme, or is this second? No, next to it. Okay. 2-5-6. 1-2-3. 5-1-2. 1-4-5. Oh, this one again. Rare. Unplayed sexy girl playboy. 15. That's more than my Kia. And this isn't the extreme one yet. How's that, Talia? $15,000 from Fresh Pickens is the seller with 98.6 positive, which is not good. Let's see. I've never seen one of these Ultra rare, I've seen a ton of these I've never seen them in person I've always wanted to I've never seen the nude photos projector thing work Yeah Nude photos projected to screen on bed Huh? It's supposed to be like a bed Oh, okay It's not really a bed, it's like a cabaret thing An example can be viewed on YouTube Does that mean this one or just an example? Yeah, exactly. Well, let's look at the pictures. I'm not going to lie. That cabinet looks pretty damn nice. It does. It's a good-looking cabinet, yeah. It's so they did the red instead of the pink on it. Yeah, I like that better. Yeah, if you want a sexy girl, this one's for you, but not at that price. But they put the Playboy logo still on it, so they should have taken it off. I know, which is bad. They should have put a sexy girl logo on the side. That would have been cooler. Yeah. Are you ready for the extreme now? Okay. Oh, here we go. Here we go. You all buckling, boys and girls? Okay. Strap on. Strap on. Strap on. Strap off. Strap on. The strapper. The strap on. 275-884-730-165. Oh, Jesus Christ. It's Metallica. It's a Metallica premium pinball machine. Let's see, before I give the price, let's see. What's the description on this puppy here? Metallica premium pinball. This is a later build, so it's all LED from the factory. All the premiums were LED from the factory. I wonder if he knows that. It's an LED. It's a premium. Yeah. That saves you a whole $60. Yeah. But I'm saying, it's like the way it's worded. This is a later build, so it's all LED. If it's a premium, they were all LED. Instead of the 2013s that have to be converted. I do not believe that is true. Because my ACDC premium is LED. So maybe he meant pro. New Titan clear and purple rubber. Silicone installed just recently. Everything works as it should. Awesome condition. No, it's not. Okay, you're saying it's not an honest... Nope. There's a couple things wrong. Look at the fucking magnets. Okay, let me look at the magnets. Oh, yeah, that's bad. That thing's going to jump right into his face. Yeah. Let's see. Oh, yeah. We've got magnet wear. Yep, magnet wear and magnet curled over, both of them. So you know the play field's already got. Now, the one under the hammer looks okay. Yes, I'm talking about the other two. Sparky's is bad. Yeah, and so is the tombstone one. Now, I'm going to add this to the list of my pro is better than premium. You get spinners. You get spinners. Yeah, that's the thing. Spinners is always the deal breaker. Spinners is just the give all. Well, you know how much this is? You can have this game for only $30,000. So you can buy two, not one, but two special edition. At that price, Metallica should play a song for me. Like they should come to my house. Yeah. Yeah. $30,000. No. No. Holy fucking extreme. You think the premium is better than Pearl Metallica? I do. I do. I really do. What's the difference? Besides the spinners, it's just the hammer, right? Just the aesthetics with the cross going down. That's kind of cool when you hit that. Yeah, but that's just a visual thing. That's like the dinosaur eating the ball in Jurassic Park. Yeah, but it's still cool. Oh, wow, look at that. And it doesn't – back then, it didn't cost that much difference between the pro and premium. It was like, what, $1,500? It was nice. You actually could afford something. Yeah, that's valid. And I think it was a better – You know, people don't like that the lock slows it down a little bit. I think the lock is actually perfectly fine. You know, sometimes people complain, oh, it slows it down too much, you know. People complain? Yeah. Oh, no. I'm up inside. Yes. Oh, my God. Well, it's like on Rush, everybody bitches and is like, oh, the pro is better. We don't need that Vup shot on the dead end shot. But then this guy comes out and releases a mod that kicks it back to the right flipper. I'm like, okay, now you guys are all in love with it. It's the same freaking thing that they did on the premium. I know. And you're paying $200 for it. Yep. Yeah, $30,000. The older I get, the grumpier I get. Welcome to my family. Bruce is very grumpy. Oh, fuck yeah. I expect that hot tip to be bought by tomorrow. I think you should go get that hot tip. I think you should too. I think it's time for the ball bag. Oh, my. It's a pretty full ball bag. I love when my ball bag's full. Yes. All right. First email is from, oh, by the way, if you want to write to the ball bag, you can write to the ball bag at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. That's slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. The first email we have is from Corey. Hi, Corey. Hi, Ron and Bruce. Why do I always go you first? I don't know. I don't know either. It should be Bruce and Ron. Half-Balcon Order. Reverse Half-Balcon Order. I have just started watching the Beatles' Get Back documentary. And as a result, I'm listening to the Beatles' channel on SiriusXM. Tonight they played Oh My My. And until that moment, I had no idea that was a Ringo Starr song. Yes, it is. From the album Ringo. Yep. It probably doesn't help that I listen to podcasts at 2x speed, so I was only familiar with the sped-up version. The song only has, like, 9,800 Shazams. Oh, it should have more than that. I don't know what a Shazam is. If you could take any music band machine and replace the music with another artist, which would you pick and why? Hmm. Ooh. I know mine, but everyone knows mine. That's a touchy subject right now. Hmm. Guy in our league, Brian Shepard, who helps with the IFBA, He keeps talking about his rush game. He's going to replace it with, like, gangster rap. I get mad at him every time about it. I'm like, don't fuck with your rush game. But that's a good question. Okay, maybe take Aerosmith and replace it with Van Halen. There you go. Wow, I was against you until you said Van Halen. So if I'm going to do one, I'll put that one out there. How about you, Bruce? Anyone for yellow. I'll even take an Elvis. Oh, yeah, I'll also take Elvis. Okay, so you replace the Elvis thing with Jeff Land moving his hips back and forth? Yep. With the guitar in his hand. I got a good one. Take ACDC, replace it with Led Zeppelin, and make it the game that it should have been. No. But I love ACDC. I like ACDC, too, but Led Zeppelin should have been better than ACDC. Well, you know, I just couldn't get that game. I'm always in the way of you. Gonna make you swap. Gonna make you groove. Okay. So thank you, Corey. Thank you, Corey. Let's see. This one's from Jesse. Hi, Jesse. The subject is dark crystal. Sir Cranky Pants Bruce is wrong. What a hater. That is all. Definitely. Jesse, you're the wrong one, Jesse. I'm the right one. Yeah, Mr. Hemming here. He's telling you no. Bruce is right. Are you supposed to be what's-his-face from Family Guy? Mr. Herbert. Mr. Herbert. Come down to the basement. I got all kinds of popsicles. I got popsicles down here. So what do you think, Tom? Dark Crystal. I love the Dark Crystal. There you go. I used to watch it all the time when I was a kid. You're outvoted, Bruce. Dark Christmas is awesome. It's better. Yoda. You had Yoda on your team. It was Yoda two years later. Wrong or right? No, wrong. Completely wrong. Stop. Same voice and everything. Same voice and everything. Wait a minute. Was Frank Oz in there? Yeah, he was. Yep. Well, again, anything with Jim Henson, it's going to have Frank Oz in there. I know. But same voice. Suck you do Let's see This one's from the Pinball Princess I think this is when you threw her under a bus About the whole That finals format Oh yes, because it did suck Dear Ron and Bruce It is I, the one who put the seed Of the idea of an amazing race In Zach's head So throwing Zach under the bus The one who experienced that format As part of the Pinsonetti Women's Tournament And went, well that was cool and discuss the merits of such an unusual format. Unusual formats, of course, being the bread and butter of Zach's tournament inclinations. That is true. I was not, however, the one who churned the cream and kneaded the flour and yeast together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell is wrong with you people? You know, back in my day, that would be cool to try sometime, I said. a suggestion, a request, certainly. What I did not say was to shoehorn it into a launch party at the next available event with little to no explanation or warning and with only the top eight involved. I barely thought past I'm busy that day when Zach told me about the launch party. I think the Amazing Race format works best with a larger field of competitors. My one experience, which was largely positive, would have been as the executioner spot, the nickname for the tenuous first seed spot of roughly 20 people. I vaguely recall the top-seeded individuals coming in later in the race ladder as an advantage. Oh, so it was like a different format. Yeah. In a smaller field, this makes AR look like a standard ladder, but in a bigger field, it lets you have some assurance of not immediately falling off to the lowest possible finish, like what happened at RPC's launch party. Amazing Race might work best with the tournament format being the focus with a few buys involved and with full understanding that it will be less of a normal ladder and more of a shaky rope ladder braided together with twine, with rungs stuck in with bubble gum. Wow. The chaos is supposed to be part of the fun. I suggest doing such a tournament again and centering the format, not a launch party, but considering how much this iteration of the format went over like a fermented turd. Oh, it was a turd. I'm not sure a second pass would work on RPC. Even if a lower stakes tournament worked well, it would be hard to get the smell of lactic acid filled dung out of the nostrils. Oh, what a shit show. Anyway, Bruce-isms tend to be malaprops and confounding phrases. Would one need a dictionary of Bruce-isms to understand the Bruce-ideolect? I don't know half these words. Or would one find the equivalent words through a Bruce-isthorus? We do need that. It's a shit show. Mine's simpler to say it Peeling themselves off the pavement Player 31915 Thank you Steph Let's see Next one we got From Scott Our Scott, Scott C If you guys were handed a million bucks in cash You'd ask why it isn't in an envelope Ha ha Okay These names were like demanding or something Or Well you asked for code fixed remember yeah and it was fixed let's see uh this is from harry harry says harry as i was listening to the latest podcast bruce mentioned painting his cabinet could you tell me what kind of paint you're using and what brand i have to redo one of my cabinets and want to make sure i use the right kind thank you i really enjoy your show i don't know yet because i have not gotten to that point yet and then when i do get to that point i will have vance come on who is my paint guy. I'm my clear coat guy. I will be interested in that because I have two cabinets I need to repaint. Yep. I will have Mr. V in there who's also done Ron's Quicksilver playfield. Yes. And he does like high-end furniture and craft. He does very high-end. He would know what paint to use. Yes. And he did my Centaur. And my Centaur cabinet was like fucking butter because he clear coated over my cabinet. Yeah, I remember that. That fucking thing was awesome. Speaking of Centaur, Why did we not see one at Expo this year? They couldn't make it over, I guess? That was the one thing I was hoping to see more than anything else was the new Centaur. But it didn't show up. And there was no Fathoms either. You don't want a Fathom. Oh. If I get a Fathom I going to get an original one Yes I would definitely agree with that one Okay we have a segment here from Glenn Oh I love Glenn Glenn the creator of the most awesome theme music ever Fuck yeah! The Slammertail theme song. Yes. And he has written about this before. His turd or treasure, where he wants to get a game with the necessary votes. To make it. On his side, in the top 100. Yes. Yep. So he's left us a song here. Well, I don't think it's a song, but it's a – and I will be able to actually play this live on the air. Nice. With the new technology. And, yes, Bruce has not heard this. I know Tom has not heard this. So here we go. Are you ready? Turd or Treasure? Hi, I'm Glenn Glenn Waechter. This holiday season, will you be an angel for a helpless pinball machine? I bet you didn't know, but there are countless pinball machines on Pinside without the minimal votes to rank them in the top 100. Please, go to Pinside, review these poor, abused, neglected pinball machines. They're suffering in value, and they're crying out for help. Here are some of the testimonials from the members of the TOTI. I saw RoboWar come up for sale, and I didn't know what to do. Is it a good game? Is it a turd? I don't know. How does anybody know? Holy crap, Stair Guys! I just had an offer to trade my water world for a ferro. But since ferro doesn't have enough votes on his side, I just couldn't take the bait. Well, I guess I'll just keep on playing my fish tails. Hey, Bob, look! Water steers! Here at the Turd or Treasure Institute, we need your reviews of games to bring clarity to the world. Just three more reviews of RoboWar, or six more reviews of Ferro, will bring these games to the top 100 list, securing them a home and a second chance thanks to you. Right now, there's a pin here that needs you, and your vote says, I'm here to help. Please vote right now. So please vote. Now the problem with this is going to be this problem now. I see his point 100%. No, but I'm going to tell you the bad part about this point. They all complain about us about getting Stern so popular. If we get these other games like RoboWar or, you know, Pharaoh, you're going to see them go up in fucking price so much, and all these pens are going to go, it's in the top 100, man. Look at us go. RoboWar is a great game. I'm surprised Pharaoh didn't have one. Well, it is the weakest of the. The bylaws. Yes, it is definitely the weakest. The R is pretty cool. The R is beautiful, but the rest of the game sucks. Thank you, Glenn. Thank you, Glenn. I feel bad. You should have, like, a puppy dog in the background going, I can't picture any Indian with a teardrop. I was just thinking of Sarah McLachlan. Oh, yeah. I will remember you with a puppy. That's exactly what I want. For only 30 cents a day, you could save these pinball machines. You could help support a pinball machine. I thought he was going with. And when I first heard it, I was like, is he going to fucking start asking for money? for these turds. Playing with my emotions. Yes. Oh, my God. I got to spend my money. So, okay. Robo War and Pharaoh. People, get the money. No. I want a Robo War. Wait until I get one. Oh, okay. Wait until Bruce gets a Robo War. Then vote for it. Yes. I still want a Robo War. That's actually one of the better games. Okay. Glenn also sent us an email. Oh, hi, Glenn. Hi, Glenn. Says, Ron and Bruce. I would like to honor Joe and Cher Farnsworth and give them the keys to the pinball city. They were all, God, I heard about this. They were at Free Play Florida playing in the tournament while Eric Stone was complaining about how he'll never win a tournament again. Wow. Joe and Cher noticed an unknown individual steal the first place trophy. Allegedly, he grabbed the trophy, put it in his pants, hid behind a wall. What did he do with the trophy while it was in his pool? Then wandered out of the tournament area. I believe Joe and Cher notified the TD, and they later located and identified the villain playing a pinball machine on the show floor. So he stole the thing, then stayed at the show. Because he's a winner. You've got to show it off. When they confronted him, they threatened to get the cops involved, and he reluctantly admitted he had it in his car. Hopefully he got thrown out of the show. I ban him for all shows. He retrieved it so that Eric Stone, despite his lack of self-confidence, would have another first-place trophy to show on the news. All is now right in the pinball world thanks to Joe and Sheriff Farnsworth. Hip, hip, hooray. Hip, hip, hooray. Hip, hip, hooray. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Glenn. And thank you, Joe and Sheriff. Ron, I have a question for you. I just got an instant quote asking a question for you. An instant quote asking a question for me. Okay, Bruce, what would that be? Mr. Eric Russell, CNY, is asking, are you going next week to Skill Shot? I'm going to be in Cincinnati. Okay, so you are going to Cincinnati. Yes. I will be there, too. Ah, we can meet. Absolutely. Oh, yes, Cincinnati. Cincinnati will be, the show will be coming this upcoming week. That's going to be it. Hopefully the lights stay on this time. Oh, yeah, the power went out last time. Yeah, the power went out last time. Yeah. So, yeah, I will be driving up with Zach, who completely forgot that I was driving up with him. That's good. And you got a game in the back, too. Even after mentioning it to him and talking about it and having multiple discussions online, which I found and presented for evidence, he just completely forgot I was going or that I even had tickets. Fail. Yeah, fail. It's a good show. It's a fun show. Looking forward to it. It's going to be a long drive. For you, about 13 hours, 12 hours. This should be a really fun drive for you. It's like an hour, hour and a half for me. Don't forget, don't forget what's on the way there now. What's on the way there? Waffle House. I don't eat waffles. Ooh, that Waffle House is all over the place here. Exactly, that's what I'm telling them. And there's White Castles also in Columbus. Oh, White Castles are, oh, you've got to go to White Castles. I can't eat that stuff anymore, Bruce. You can do it. You've got good French fries. You've got very good French fries. You've just got to prepare. Yeah. It's a marathon. It's not a sprint. Oh, jeez. The next email is from Colin of the Kineticist. Hey, Colin. And basically, it wasn't directly to us. It's just saying how the pinball content creator's favorite games and what they love about pinball. So check that out at the pinball kineticist, and you can read Bruce's interesting quotes. I'm an asshole. Yes. And then I got, oh, this must be the combined thing, because then I got an email from Twip saying the same thing. Wow. You know, that article. All right. We got an email from Tim. Let's see. He says, hello, Bruce. On a previous episode, you mentioned a particular machine would not fit in your new Honda CR-V. Yes. Will modern Stern and JJP machines fit in your CR-V? No. Unless you put them sideways. I have an older CR-V, and it's a great vehicle for transporting pinball machines. I can fit a JJP or Stern still in the box. I was thinking of upgrading my CR-V, and pinball transportation is a key factor. Nope. It will fit sideways, but it will not fit normal. I would agree with that. The older CR-Vs, we had a 97 CR-V, and the first one that ever came out was perfect. Any game you could think of, you could fit right into it. Ron's got a, what, 18 or 17? Like 15, 15 or 16, but yeah, it fits. It fits in mine. We have a 2011 Kia Soul that will fit old Bally games if you take the head off and move. You have to put the body on the passenger side and the head on the driver's side. Anything else won't fit. Yeah. It says, thanks, Tim. It's PS, listener Glenn is a dork. Wow. Okay. I love that. I really felt it. Yes. Okay. This one is from Scott. Scott S. This is another Scott. And it's to Ron and Barry. Barry. Oh, he's got an asterisk next to it. It says, Bruce called me Steve last episode, so I'm legally changing my name. Cool. About time. If I can listen. Come on. To spin or not to spin, that is the question. Whether it is nobler in the scoring to suffer the drains and tilts of outrageous fortune or to score points for a ball that is only passed under the spinner. I feel like I should have read that with an accent. It's not like poetry. Stewie, you want to read that one? Oh, you just read it. Why would I do that? Okay. To spin or not to spin, that is the question. Whether it is nobler in the scoring to suffer, the drains and tilts of outrageous fortune, or to score points for a ball that is only passed under the spinner. So, he asked, when adjusting a spinner switch, Would the switch be triggered and points awarded for a slow ball that passes through the spinner without resulting in a full rotation? Or should points only be awarded on a full rotation? Steve, a.k.a. FKA Scott S. It all varies on how close your switch is, of course, when you're doing it. You could make it so it's still doing the full rotation, but not doing the half rotation or just a ball. I will say, when you are adjusting the spinner switch, Okay, when I'm adjusting a spinner switch, especially on an older game with a nice leaf switch, not a micro switch, I will have it so it hits the other, they contact right at the end of the spin and get a little wiping motion, just a little bit at the end. And the reason I do that is to minimize friction. Because if you have the switch contacts touch immediately when the spinner starts, you're already slowing the spinner down. because you have, that's the friction isn't the right word. What am I thinking of here? But basically resistance, there you go. That's the word I'm thinking. You're getting resistance immediately. If you do it so it doesn't touch it until the end of the spin, you're minimizing the resistance and getting more spins. And to me, more spins are important, more important than having it register if I do half a spin. That's the way I do my spinners. What about the optic spinners? Well, the optic spinners will just do what they do, Well, it's because the thing just sits in the little U-shape when it spins. So this question was, if you go through it and you only get one spin, should that count as much as if you go through it and hit 20 spins? I think he's asking when you adjust the spinner switch. So you adjust it so it'll touch immediately, so you get the spin, not on a full rotation, or should it be on a full rotation? I do it on a full rotation. Me too. If you hit the spinner, you hit the spinner. Yeah, but also you didn't have it fully. And if you're playing a game like where the spinner's lit and you plunge and it just kind of rolls behind it and barely hits it, it'd be cooler if it didn't register now, wouldn't it? Like on Rush, if you hit it and it backtracks through it and stops it from spinning? Rush has a nice opto-spinner. Yeah, it does. It does. Everything about that game is beautiful. Everything's about it. It's great. We love Rush. Part of the Rush fan club. Raymond Davidson will love this episode. He might ask who you are and he might want to meet you. I've talked to him about it at the shows, but he kind of like, you know, just like, eh, whatever. Well, we'll have to talk to him at Pitt's day. I believe he's going to be there, so you should say, hi, I'm Tom from the Slam Tilt Podcast. I love Rush. I think it's the greatest game ever. Is there anybody else on the list? That was it. The ball bag is empty? The ball bag has been empty. That was a big ball bag. That was a big ball bag. Yes. That felt good. Mm-hmm. Yes, it does. Any repairs, Bruce? I am still working on the play field. I sent a picture out to everyone. I had a couple people have a heart attack. Quicksilver. Oh, yes, the new Quicksilver play field. You are putting LEDs on it. Yes, laxicals. Can I just repeat that? You are putting LEDs on your brand-new Quicksilver play field. Yeah, and what am I putting them on? The controlled lights. The inserts. So wait a minute. So you're going to put incandescence on the other ones? Of course. That's so stupid. Yep. That makes no sense. Yep. Just melt the plastics then. You're going to have LEDs and incandescence in the same. Yep. I'm saving energy on one side, so I've got to make it up. It makes more sense the other way, because if you want the things to fade properly, but... These fade pretty good, actually. Well, they have resistors on them. Yes, they do. Yeah. Okay. Yep, I got it almost all wired up on the bottom, and I got to get ready to transfer over the wiring harness from one play field to the next. See, do I have anything? I thought I had an issue with my Jurassic Park, but it was just a setting that got set back. It must have been when I defaulted it or something, which was the throw the ball setting with T-Rex. It defaults to yes, which on mine, when it throws it, he literally just throws it right on the plastics. Like, oh, that's not good. I don't want that. So you turn that off, and then he just kind of drops it right in the habit trail. There you go. I also was working on Medieval Madness. Cleaned it for the first time in two years. Oh. Broken pop bumper, wafer, and fiber. You know, metal and fiber. Also, my slingshot was not working because I have a, you know, the newer ones, the Medieval Madnesses. So it was actually the board that pushes into the big board underneath play field. I had to push that down a little more, and then all of a sudden, got a slingshot working again. Good thing there was nothing wrong with that board because you'd be screwed. It would be. And then other than that, just getting that ready, it's going to go back on the floor next week, and I'm going to pull out Lord of the Rings next week. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. The ring is mine. Put on the cock ring. Oh, God. Release the river. Always taking it just that little bit too far. And I ordered all my parts for Quicksilver, the pop bumpers, new bases, and I'm going to try their new wood. What? She said. What? She said. They have now wrapped wood. Wrapped wood. What does that mean? You don't know what wrapped wood is on a play field? No, I have no idea what you're talking about. What? Wrapped wood. Is it wood that wraps? Yes. No, it's the wood on the sides. The rails? It's wrapped. It's called the rails? Yes. They now sell it at Pinball Life. You mean the things that they call rails? But they don't. They call them wood rails. Yeah, they're wood wrapped. And they're wrapped. They're wrapped? Wrapped. Wouldn't that be worse than painting them? No. That's what they came originally with. they weren't painted originally. Yeah, yeah, they were wrapped with some kind of crap. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, because when they come off, it comes off as sheets. Yeah, you can peel it, yeah. Yes. So I got the wood from them, and I want to try it. You know me. I like my games looking authentic. So I'm going to make that and get that all ready. I like my games looking authentic, except for all the insert lights. Yeah, except for all the insert lights I'm replacing with LEDs, yes. Yep, and incandescent bulbs. Oh, God. You're going to love it. No. So, yep, hopefully we'll be done with the bottom next week, and we'll get back on the top five. Sounded like Tom had some repairs. Yes. I have one that's driving me nuts that hopefully Bruce can help me with. The Stern Playboy I'm working on that I just got, I have one issue that it's a switch issue that I'm pretty sure I can track down as, like, a bad ground somewhere. When I hit the left ramp, the pop bumpers fire. And I'm tracking it down to they're all on the same line, so I'll figure that one out. The one that's driving me crazy is there's, I believe, three multiballs in the game. There's centerfold multiball. There's two other ones. I can't remember the name of them. But here's what happens. You play the multiballs. Everything's going fine. when the second to last ball drains to where you're down to one ball left, it ends the whole ball. It ends all the ball. Yeah, the flippers die. You have one ball still in play, but the flippers die, and it goes into ball over, and there's still a ball bouncing around, and it goes down and drains. And I cannot figure out. All the switches are firing fine. Everything's reading right. The two optics in there. How many balls is the ball part of the game? It's a four-ball game. Okay. All four, the three microswitches are fine. The two optics that are the ball four and the trough jam are all fine. I can't figure it out. The only thing I can think of is, I think it's a software thing, because it still has the old software from 2002. It might also be the trough might have a groove in it, a rust groove. See, I got that problem with my Demolition Man, where the ball would get stuck and it wouldn't travel through. But I've looked at that on this one, and the balls are traveling fine. For some reason, what you also want to do, Dan, is try it and put it in test mode for switch mode. Yep. And drain each ball and see how it's going through the switch. I've done that. I've done that. And every one is counting exactly the way it should. I can't. It's driving me crazy. I cannot figure it out. See, here's the problem. When there's a two-ball multiball, it doesn't do it. When it's more than two balls, it doesn't. I bet you one's hanging up still. I'm really thinking it's hanging up. It really sounds like a switch is here somewhere. That's what I'm thinking, but it's driving me crazy because the switches are testing fine. Because there's a similar bizarre bug I had with, what was it, Black Knight 2000. When you would lock. No way. Because when you lock a ball, it's actually there's a switch for when you hit the ramp to lock the ball. And then there's a second switch that's in the actual lock area. And what it does is when you start multiball, when you hit the ramp, it will start the whole multiball sequence as soon as you hit the ramp switch. But when the ball comes into the lock area, it expects to see a third switch closure. If it doesn't, it will get confused in a similar way where if you're down to, like, one ball, it'll just kill your – it'll think it's over. Yes. It thinks you're out of, you know, and it screws off. It could be even bouncing off the other ball. It could be such a hard hit off the one ball, it could bounce off and hit the switch and hit the switch back in again. And it wouldn't be a bad idea to upgrade the ROM, too, if it's old. I have plans on that, yeah. Yeah. And it's White Star, so you'd have to check to see if there's a newer D&D one. Video and also, yeah. Because that's the two ROMs. You've got to do the sound, you've got to do the CPU, you've got to do the display. I mean, yeah. It is a big piece, but I'm thinking more bounce. Bounce or switch. You said big piece when we were talking about playing. I did. I did. It's not a bad game. There's not a lot to it. It is very. And the shots are kind of rough. I mean, they're not easy shots. Isn't it George Gomez first starting game? It is. No, it's. I think it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is his first game. It said the design was by Dwight and George. Dwight's listed first. There's not enough flashers on it. There's five flashers. I know, not enough. Wow, only five flashers? Yeah, but those five really do hit you when they go off. Maybe that he was suffering from flasher withdrawal. So now with all the new technology, he can just have as many as he wants, and it's just too much of an effect. 72 flashers. Here's the thing. I don't know. Do I want to keep this thing, or do I want to let go of it? It all depends if you have kids and that kind of stuff. It sounds like you don't have a lot of younger kids. No, I've got one daughter, and I said she's 22. There you go. How much did you pay for it? Let's just say a ballpark two grand. Do you want to know? Go down lower. You already made money. Take a zero off of that. 200? 250. 250? That's cheap. Wow. That's a cheap white star. Wow. That's even. That's what you're already winning. That's cheap for Bruce. That's insane. But the more I play it, the more I'm like, I kind of like it. Well, it's not a bad thing. Guess what? You'll never lose money on it. That's the way you look at it. You're right. Yeah. So guess what? You just keep it and play it, and then when you're ready, or you need fast cash. That was my goal. Play this shit out of it and start getting bored. Yeah, or if you need fast cash, like $2,200, guess what? You made $2,000 for just looking pretty. Yeah. That's the way I look at it. Pinsonati's upcoming so you can say hi to Ron hi to Tom and hi to Tom can I give Ron a hug? I'm going to give Ron a hug definitely give Ron a hug I'm going to give Ron a big old hug oh bear hug him you love it lift him off the ground Chewie loves when you lift him off the ground like Dirty Dancing just lift him up yes just lift him right off now I know I have the time of my life Are we all set, Bruce? You got anything else? No, I'm pretty good here. How about you, Tom? Anything else? Anything you want to plug? Plug? It's plug time. Plug time. Ooh. No, the only thing I got is the barcade I play at, Level 1 in Columbus. We have our league on Monday night, and it's a great place to play pinball here in town. I think they got, like, 25, 30 pinball machines in. So you heard it here. Level 1. Check it out. Level 1, Columbus, Ohio. Not a zero, but one. Level one. Do they stream? That sounds familiar to me. They do. Yes, they do stream. Okay. And we got some great players there. I mean, we got, God, I think five state champions that play out of it. And that's how rough it is. Yeah, so it sounds like I'm going to go there and get my ass kicked. Yeah. It's a good place. It's a good place. Okay. So, yes, this has been episode 219. You can check out our website, www.slamtailpodcast.com. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner. You can always write us at slamtailpodcast at gmail.com. Fill my ball bag. Yes. I am in another podcast called Silver Ball Chronicles, which can be listened to on the Pinball Network. Did you plug us this time, or did you forget? Did you ever add it? Oh, I have no idea. You didn't add it, I don't think. The episode hasn't been out yet, Bruce. Oh, I thought it was going to be out two weeks ago. No. What the fuck's he doing? No. He takes him a while to edit for us. He edits? Yes. Does Tom listen to the Silver Ball Chronicles? I do listen to it. There you go. I enjoy it. All right. But not as much as this one, because we're fun. No, this one is more entertaining. The other one's more informative. More informative. This one's more entertaining. Very informative. Yes. That's it. Thanks to Tom for joining us. Thank you, Tom. It took seven, eight months, but it finally happened. I enjoyed it. He enjoyed his money shot. Oh, God. And he was out here before you, too. I know. He was more prepared, more ready, you know. I had to get all the would you or would you not buy that. That's what I was doing. That's what you were doing, like five minutes before we're going on the air? Yes. Not like the preparation I do. Preparation H is the only thing you do. Yes. Oh, okay. Actually, this seat is getting pretty uncomfortable. It's itchy. It's itchy and scratchy. They fight. They fight. They fight. They fight. Yeah. We should do a whole show with just annoying, like, high voices. Did we do that once? Like, when did we do that? We did that kind of, like, really high voices like this. Yeah. I like the match-up. Yeah. Well, Bruce has his greatest voice, which, of course, is... Jimmy! Yes. Yes, Space Ace himself. Dexter himself. Dexter, yes. Must surrender to me. No way, Warped Ball Buddy. I love that. Oh, I've been hit! By the Afonto. I still don't know. Oh, I've been hit! By the Afonto. By the Afonto. Everyone's like, what the fuck? Go watch the demo. Go watch the demo. Kimmy. It's like a better, funnier version of Dragon's Lair. It really is. Oh, it's hilarious. Yeah, it is hilarious. All right. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, everyone, on our Cluster Buck thread, et cetera. Who is on our Cluster Buck thread? I don't know at this point. It's not bucking the cluster as much. It's not bucking anybody. Oh, hi, Isaac. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Pinball Princess, everybody out there. Until the next time. Bruce, are you prepared? I'm not prepared. You're not prepared so we can stall? Yes, stall. Bruce is so prepared. What do we talk about now for the next two minutes? Two minutes? Is this going to take you that long to find a game? Yeah, you know, it's a little quickie. Wow. All the innuendos this episode. I got it. Oh, you got it. So that was a quick two minutes. All right. See how fast I am? All right. Thanks to Tom once again. Thank you, Tom. Coming on. Thank you so much for having me on. Don't forget, Ron needs a big hug. No, no hugs. No hugs. I will give you an eight-month notice when I want to come on again. That's what we require, at least eight months. Eight months. I get my shots all in order. All right, until next time, say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Raymond Giuliano. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Can you fly? Oh my my Oh my my Can you fly? Oh my my Oh my my Can you fly? Oh my my Meteor! To level zero! Clusterfuck George the Guy Timberwolves Bruce Dizner Tournament Talk Car Holder Cheetah Statitude Cash Crab ELO Ball Break What You Find Give You Love Give You Hate Tournament Talk Keep Up With This Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. We got to expand, baby. Got to expand. Mm-hmm. We're talking about it this week with the Realtors again. Knocking the wall out? More stuff? More shit. We can think of another 30 games at least. Good Lord. How are you going to maintain all that? Well, I got you. You have me. I'm not maintaining shit there.

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