# Stream 546: GOTG (Stern) PRO **Source:** Don't Panic Flip **Type:** video **Published:** 2022-04-11 **Duration:** 123m 8s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qh2S8AS_WI --- ## Analysis Don't Panic Flip stream #546 features gameplay of Stern's Guardians of the Galaxy Pro machine with hosts George, Elagos, Iron Fox, and Chaotix, plus remote guests Surreal_seven and first-time guest iSkiDoo. The episode is largely social—covering Halloween costumes, movies/books you should like but don't, and rewatchable series—interspersed with casual pinball commentary. George mentions planning to drive to an event (TPF) Wednesday night and potentially bringing a game if they beat GOTG's wizard mode. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] George is driving to Texas/San Francisco area Wednesday evening at 8-9pm and will arrive Thursday around noon, possibly bringing a game to TPF if GOTG wizard mode is beaten — _George directly states driving plans and mentions 'we're leaving at 8 o'clock p.m. tentatively on Wednesday night' and later clarifies 9pm, with arrival 'at about noon tomorrow.' References selling machine to Fliptronic if brought._ - [HIGH] iSkiDoo has never done a full Star-Lord Halloween costume because a proper outfit costs $700-$800 including leather jacket, mask, and gun prop — _iSkiDoo states: 'to do it right, it costs about $700 or $800 to get the nice leather jacket, the cool mask, the actual... It's not a functioning gun, but, like, a really cool gun.'_ - [MEDIUM] GOTG Pro has one of the most colorful playfields in modern pinball — _George observes: 'I feel like this game has one of the most colorful playfields. It is quite nice.' iSkiDoo mentions it has reds, oranges, yellows, and greens._ - [HIGH] iSkiDoo owns an LE version of Stranger Things pinball — _George asks iSkiDoo: 'you have an LE of, right? Stranger Things.' iSkiDoo responds about that machine having dark colors but purple tones._ - [HIGH] Escher achieved a mini-wizard mode in GOTG Pro one-handed and scored 50 million points on a single shot — _George states: '50 million and a mini-wizard mode one-handed' when referencing Escher's play, adding 'He is that good.'_ - [HIGH] Dice has been away from streaming for five weeks and is currently in Florida — _Dice says: 'I haven't been able to do this in like five weeks' and 'Dice currently posted up in the bathroom while my business associate is sleeping in the other room we were in Florida in the morning.'_ - [MEDIUM] GOTG Pro has broken parts/mechanical issues that players have encountered — _iSkiDoo notes: 'I played it a few years ago at round one, but I only played it for about ten minutes. It seemed like it had some broken parts, so it didn't play well.'_ - [HIGH] The stream reached 492-493 subs with Dice gifting multiple tier one subs during the episode — _George announces: 'Dice gifting a tier one sub to QueenDarkLady, 492 subs in the channel' and 'And 493 to FuzzyCord.'_ ### Notable Quotes > "to do it right, it costs about $700 or $800 to get the nice leather jacket, the cool mask, the actual... It's not a functioning gun, but, like, a really cool gun." > — **iSkiDoo**, early in stream > _Explains the barrier to entry for detailed Halloween costumes and contextualizes collector/enthusiast spending habits_ > "50 million and a mini-wizard mode one-handed. Like, I don't even... This doesn't even bother me. I don't care." > — **George**, mid-stream gameplay > _Highlights Escher's exceptional skill level on GOTG and demonstrates the competitive depth of the machine_ > "I feel like this game has one of the most colorful playfields. It is quite nice." > — **George**, during gameplay commentary > _Positive assessment of GOTG Pro's visual design and aesthetic appeal_ > "I haven't been able to do this in like five weeks, so I'm resting." > — **Dice**, early stream > _Indicates Dice's absence from streaming due to personal/business commitments_ > "we are leaving at 8 o'clock p.m. tentatively on Wednesday night and we are driving through which should get us I think there at about noon tomorrow" > — **George**, late stream > _Confirms travel plans to TPF event and potential game acquisition/sale_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | George | person | Host of Don't Panic Flip stream, primary gameplay commentator | | Surreal_seven | person | Remote guest co-host on stream, associated with Mystery Pinball Theater and streaming partner | | iSkiDoo | person | First-time guest on Don't Panic Flip, pinball enthusiast with LE Stranger Things machine | | Elagos | person | Co-host on Don't Panic Flip stream | | Iron Fox | person | Co-host on Don't Panic Flip stream, first full day of spring observer | | Chaotix | person | Co-host on Don't Panic Flip stream, Pokémon family costume participant | | Dice | person | Regular stream participant currently absent for a few weeks, currently in Florida, active gifter of tier one subs | | Escher | person | Skilled GOTG Pro player referenced for exceptional one-handed wizard mode achievement and 50M point shot | | Stern | company | Manufacturer of Guardians of the Galaxy Pro pinball machine | | Guardians of the Galaxy Pro | game | Stern pinball machine featured in this stream, noted for colorful playfield and mechanical issues | | Stranger Things (LE) | game | Pinball machine owned by iSkiDoo, dark-colored playfield with purple tones | | Roller Coaster Tycoon | game | Pinball machine purchased by iSkiDoo in 2007, described as gorgeous with simple software, reached wizard mode first night | | Aerosmith | game | Pinball machine mentioned by iSkiDoo with ball-stuck-in-box mechanical issue | | Smokey and the Bandit | game | Pinball machine recommended by C&K, repeatedly mentioned in chat | | Lord of the Rings | game | Pinball machine George referenced reaching wizard mode quickly, similar to GOTG experience | | TPF | event | Pinball event George is attending, driving Wednesday night, potentially bringing GOTG Pro if wizard mode is beaten | | Fliptronic | person | Potential buyer if George brings GOTG Pro to TPF; noted as Jupiter Ascending fan | | VOOF | person | Former pinball streamer now focused on video games, noted as fantastic pinball player (V-O-O-F-O-O-S) | | Kevin Smith | person | Filmmaker quoted by Dice regarding Ben Affleck and Lord of the Rings trilogy criticism | | Don't Panic Flip | organization | Streaming show/channel hosting this pinball gameplay and discussion | ### Topics - **Primary:** Guardians of the Galaxy Pro gameplay and mechanics, Halloween costumes and pop culture fandom, Movies and books you should like but don't, Rewatchable film and TV series - **Secondary:** Pinball machine design and playfield aesthetics, Competitive pinball skill and wizard mode achievements, Pinball equipment reliability and mechanical issues - **Mentioned:** Don't Panic Flip stream community and guest appearances ### Sentiment **Positive** (0.78) — Stream is lighthearted and social with genuine enthusiasm for both GOTG Pro gameplay and pop culture discussion. No major complaints or controversies. Positive community engagement with multiple subs and bits. Some mild frustration with GOTG mechanical performance, but overall upbeat tone. ### Signals - **[gameplay_signal]** GOTG Pro noted for colorful, visually appealing playfield with vibrant primary colors (reds, oranges, yellows, greens) (confidence: high) — George: 'I feel like this game has one of the most colorful playfields. It is quite nice.' iSkiDoo confirms: 'Reds and oranges and yellows and greens. Primary colors.' - **[product_concern]** GOTG Pro experienced broken parts and mechanical issues during location play; ball-stuck-in-box issues also reported on Aerosmith (confidence: medium) — iSkiDoo: 'I played it a few years ago at round one, but I only played it for about ten minutes. It seemed like it had some broken parts, so it didn't play well. I've seen a lot of these with broken parts.' - **[gameplay_signal]** GOTG Pro demonstrated significant skill ceiling with Escher achieving 50M single-shot and mini-wizard mode one-handed, indicating deep mechanical and software complexity (confidence: high) — George narration: '50 million and a mini-wizard mode one-handed. He is that good.' - **[event_signal]** TPF event scheduled for Thursday, hosting pinball enthusiasts and potentially triggering secondary market transactions (confidence: high) — George confirms: 'we are leaving at 8 o'clock p.m. tentatively on Wednesday night' and 'If we get to save Xandar, I'm bringing it. And then I can just sell it to Fliptronic.' - **[content_signal]** Don't Panic Flip stream maintains strong community engagement with 492+ channel subs, active gifting tier-one subs, recurring guests (Dice, Elagos, Chaotix), and first-time guest iSkiDoo (confidence: high) — Multiple tier-one sub gifts by Dice, hype train completion, 24-person raid from Andy, channel approaching 500 subs - **[sentiment_shift]** Positive onboarding of first-time guest iSkiDoo with welcoming tone and integration into established stream format and community (confidence: high) — George: 'Very special. That's the way we got to go.' iSkiDoo participates naturally in discussion and answers prepared questions. - **[personnel_signal]** Regular stream contributor Dice temporarily away from streaming due to personal/business commitments in Florida; expected absence of several more weeks (confidence: high) — Dice states: 'I haven't been able to do this in like five weeks' and George notes: 'Dice is out for another few weeks, so we're going to need some more people to come in.' - **[design_innovation]** Comparison discussion of colorful playfield designs across modern pinball; GOTG Pro's primary color palette contrasted with darker-themed machines like Stranger Things (confidence: medium) — George and iSkiDoo discuss playfield color palettes; iSkiDoo: 'Stranger Things... kind of a lot of dark colors' versus GOTG's vibrant palette --- ## Transcript Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. My name is George. This show is Don't Panic Flip. And tonight, Elagos, Iron Fox, and Chaotix, welcome. We have some special guests coming in remotely. We have Surreal underscore seven. Hi, Surreal. Hello, hello. Hello, Chad. Hopefully everyone can hear us, and you can hear the people coming in remotely. And we have a new first-time stream guest coming in. It's iSkiDoo. iSkiDoo, how are you doing this evening? I'm great. Thank you for inviting me. I wouldn't call me special, but I'm glad to be here. Very special. That's the way we got to go. Playing Guardians of the Galaxy, huh? Where's your Star-Lord jacket? So, I don't know if it's a funny story, but I have almost been Star-Lord on multiple Halloween occasions. And that is one I've never pulled off, because to do it right, it costs about $700 or $800 to get the nice leather jacket, the cool mask, the actual... It's not a functioning gun, but, like, a really cool gun. And then get the shirt that says, like, it's weird. It's almost like it says F. Yeah on it. The long-sleeve gray shirt and everything. Like, to do the entire outfit, which I think leads us perfectly into what I'm going to call the first question of the night, which is, what is your favorite Halloween costume that you either have done or want to do? I don't know if either of you guys, this is off the cuff right now. This is actually not part of my, like, five questions that I want to go over this evening. So we're starting with a bonus question. We're starting with a question right now. Here we go. One of my favorites, this doesn't make as much sense for me, but one of my favorites that I ever saw was a friend of mine who was a bartender, and he showed up with a whole bunch of grass tucked into his pants, like really long blades of grass. And every time anybody would ask him, what are you dressed as? And he goes, I can't talk right now. I'm in the weeds. Okay, I like that. I also really appreciate, like, pun Halloween costumes in general. Yeah. Ice Ski Dude, do you have any particular costume that you are a big fan of? Oh, sorry. To repeat the question again, I was doing some technical stuff here. Sorry. No, all good. Halloween, I was talking about, I've always wanted to be Star-Lord for Halloween because, honestly, I just want to rock that red leather jacket. But do you have any particular Halloween costume either you have done or you want to do that, I don't know, just really made you happy or happened to hit that spot where you remember, like, that was my best costume? I haven't done a lot of Halloween since I was a kid, and I don't even remember what the costumes were. but I was thinking about going to uh a con I guess it was the last one where there was a lot of pinball streamers there I don't know if it was Expo Expo yep it was the overhead one the hot nudge girls that would try to go as like bride of pinball have like head outs of their face and then I could just spin this whole mask around and like different versions of their face would be showing forward Okay. The different versions of Pinbot? Yeah, the versions of Pinbot, but each one of their faces would be kind of part of the image. Okay. Awesome. Chaotix did a family Pokemon one last year. Son was a trainer and the wife and I were Squirtle and Charmander, which is awesome. Dice! What's up, Dice? Dice, who's supposed to be traveling and unable to make the next few weeks of streams, welcome. Hi, good evening. I love that intro, by the way. One of my favorite characters in My Little Pony. Hello, Dice. We got Ice Ski-Doo on this evening, and Surreal. And just finishing up, Halloween costumes. So, if you've ever seen the Halloween costumes, not even, it's just a costume you see all over, uh, like Instagram and TikToks where people dress up as a, as a T-Rex and then go do funny things was my favorite costume ever. Like I got, I got beat up constantly by people. I got fed alcohol with people shoving beers under, like through the, the, the, the hand, uh, the hand hole. Um, it was, I don't remember actually a lot of the evening, But there are so many pictures of weird situations, like people jumping on me, giving piggyback rides. You have no idea it's me because I just look like a blow-up T-Rex. But that was by far my favorite costume. It's always a good idea to accept beers from random people you don't know. Yeah, it was a party. We can assume it was probably okay. CNK, welcome to the stream. Oh, Iron Fox. What chaotic? Throw in a primer I mean You're paying your money You're Nailed it Nailed it If you're wasting your money Watching someone else Play pinball Chaotic So thank you so much for throwing that primer Our direction My hat's off to you Super appreciated On a four month streak And subscribing for four months Welcome to the panic room welcome to ad-free viewing and as Dice would say the shweet emotes also Iron Fox is saying it's the first full day of spring so happy winter wrap up everyone happy first day of spring and Dice currently posted up in the bathroom while my business associate is sleeping in the other room we were in Florida in the morning that sounds like the start to some sort of a fun movie that results in in an adventure, right? It sounds like playing strings in automobiles. Okay. Don't put your hand between two pillows. Hobbit's third flipper. Welcome to the stream. All right. So we got some Guardians of the Galaxy here, and we have a lot more questions for this evening. Actually, I like the Halloween one. I really like Halloween. It's a fun time to do weird stuff. That's when I memorized the V for Vendetta speech was for a costume that year. And I always try to step it up. I think Star-Lord's going to happen. And Iron... Wait, somebody above said they could help out with the helmet. Elagos saying, I can help you out with the helmet. Okay. I might hold you to that. Let's see here. 24 hours from now and I wake up on George's couch and we need the Tarantino the last day to figure out what happened. Okay. Yeah, that's... I was thinking of the hangover. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of. You could do it Memento style and figure out everything that happens after your trip. Ugh. My God. Memento is such a great movie. I hate watching it. Like, Memento is the most irritating movie to watch. It requires entirely too much brain power to watch that movie and make sense of it. Are either of you guys big Memento fans? Or what's the name of the director who did Batman who did that one? that's Nolan right? yeah Chris Nolan yeah I love his stuff I actually haven't seen Memento since it I think came out yeah Memento is great but it's been a long time since I've seen it I I don't know whether to recommend it at all like it's an experience it's definitely that so I would say go for it Kindalas by the way Ben Affleck Ben Affleck had played the shark in Jaws I think we're all aware of that, right? Oh, that makes sense. That's, sorry, I'm quoting Silent Bob from Clerks and Mallrats and all those movies. Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith. Yeah, talks about Ben Affleck being the greatest actor he's ever met, and that's what he says. He says that Ben Affleck could play the shark in Jaws. That's how good he is. Jeff, dropping 203 bits on the screen. Jeff, my hat's off to you. What is the significance of 203? I feel like there is something there that I'm supposed to get. And yes, Kindalis, exactly. Yeah, Kevin Smith. Memento is to me what Requiem for a Dream is for most people. Dice. Yeah, no. Requiem destroyed me for a very long time. Getting the feeling that Dice is not a big fan of that movie. The 203 had no significance. Okay, cool. So I'm going to get a game going, but beforehand, have either of you two played much Guardians of the Galaxy? I got to play it for about an hour. So no. Iron Fox throwing out an exclamation point movie. Okay. I played it a few years ago. Let me know if you want me to turn that on. I can. I played it a few years ago at round one, but I only played it for about ten minutes. It seemed like it had some broken parts, so it didn't play well. I've seen a lot of these with broken parts, so that's not the first time. Also the first time I got to try Aerosmith, and that would have a ball that got stuck in the box, but never pop out until it did a ball search, so that was annoying. How many more? Oh, I just need one more. Ah! That upgrade's not going to help me. Smokey and the Bandit, C&K recommend. Yes. C&K has been recommending that for a very, very long time. Squalito, welcome to the stream. Alright, we've got our first mode done here. And, uh, this game, I, somebody, oh! Second place, Andy! Coming in with a 24-person raid! Not only my hat's off to you, but welcome all 24 beautiful people over here. This evening, we are playing Guardians of the Galaxy, and we have two other streamers remoted in. And we have Surreal underscore seven and Ice E. Do joining us this evening as we play some Guardians of the Galaxy. Hello, Raiders. Hello, Raiders. Andy is first place in my book. Yeah, first place. Okay. Or second. Well, because he's second place. I just got to. It's like I had to save the name to catch the significance of the first place reference. Totally makes sense. Hi, Marty. Game Club Central. Thank you very much for those bits. That's appreciated. Gearbox, second place raid. So sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off there, surreal. I didn't mean to stop on you either. I was going to say, nice emotes, Iron Fox. But they're mine, so. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. What's the, what's, what's the phrase, oh. The phrase from Star Trek. about the, it would be oddly, it's something that Spock says about he can't wish himself, because wishing himself a, like, have a good day or, like, wishing yourself well would be oddly self-serving. There we go. That's all I wanted to say. Is that Vincent Proce? Dance Panda, welcome to the stream. Who's Vincent Proce? No, that's Salvador Dali. Game Club Central just wasting things. Did I get it? No. You really ought to clean out your redemption queue, George. Ice-Kidoo and I both have the power to refund all of those screaming sons. Well, you guys are mods. I trust you, obviously. Wow. Did I only hit two? Yeah, I only hit two. That was really bad. Dance Panda, now I feel uncultured. I mean, this is Twitch, George. Serving yourself is against TOS. The terms of service. How is serving yourself odd? Come on. I'm just quoting what he said in the first Star Trek, where Spock, the older Spock, was talking to younger Spock, and he's like, my normal thing, be well, or whatever. What does Spock say? Live long and prosper. There you go. Would be oddly self-serving. So instead, he says something else. I don't know what that is either. This is great. Best value for channel points anywhere on Twitch. Why do you want a refund? The guy who laughs in Thriller, if you don't know him from anything else. Got it, got it. Okay. George does movie reviews. Yes. George, you can't remember any of the individual words themselves does movie reviews, and they go swimmingly. Oh, my God. I would pay to see that, I think. All right. We're going to hit this shot right there. Good. Okay. We have another H-Rod Enforcer. I'll take the upgrade, that's fine. Alright, we need to hit broker again here. I feel like this game has one of the most colorful playfields. It is quite nice. And, uh, IceSkiDoo, you have a, um... What's the other most colorful playfield? The one that you have, you have an LE of, right? Stranger Things. No, that doesn't seem super colorful. It's kind of a lot of dark colors, but... All the... Maybe it's just the purple? Reds and oranges and yellows and greens. Primary colors. Escher would be very upset at me. I finished that mode and got into a Norb multiball. I feel like AIQ also has that kind of palette. Mm-hmm. I think back in like 2007 I bought a roller coaster tycoon based on the looks of it I'm actually okay sorry what was that nothing it's all confusion there's a lot of confusion here kind of how I play pinball though I haven't been able to do this in like five weeks, so I'm resting. Okay. So we've got purple shots we have to hit. I'd say we just hit those purple shots, right? That's good to know. Great. Taylor, welcome to the stream. Also, Wireable. Hi, and welcome. RCP has lots of different colored wire forms. Very cool. Not sure I feel about the troll dolls, though. Oh, yeah, Roller Coaster Tycoon. It's a gorgeous game. I've never actually played it. Pretty simple software. So, the first night I bought it, I bought it used, and my buddy helped me bring it home. We played for, like, an hour. And I got to the wizard mode the first night. I was kind of disappointed with that. to lose it so easy. Right. That's always kind of frustrating. That's what George did with Lord of the Rings. Wow. Oh my God, no, no, no, get up there. That would have been perfect. All right. How many seconds do we have left? We have seconds. We're in another multiball. We're doing the thing here. Marty wants to lend his sultry, smooth voice to your next stream at Game Club Central. Okay, I think I'm good with that. We need, so Dice is out for another few weeks, so we're going to need some more people to come in. Yeah, we haven't reached the correct level of confusion yet. It gets really crazy at five people. there's too much coherency also it'll take me a little while to get out of my shell that's what alcohol's for is that why I'm drinking? yes exactly I have never had a drinking problem but there's when I'm constantly Dice just gifted a tier one sub to Tracy. Tracy, welcome to the stream. I miss that you can use... Oh my god, I miss so much chat. Heading there now. Wait, I feel a drinking ball is a very subjective term. Right. Do I need to upgrade this? No. Yeah, we're going to do that and then finish this mode. That's done. And as a great man once said, enjoy those showy moats. Yes. And the ad previewing and the panic room. Tracy, we get to hang out soon. And something, something tri-blend. Tri-blend or death. Now that you guys have all experienced the tri-blend though, right? Like, legit, it's good, right? Devin Grace suggests he just bring Escher back to read chat. Nobody wants to see Escher beat the game again. That would be epic. He just set up a forest stool and you're like, help, you sit there and you read chat. I'm going to play. You know, the other benefit there would be he could give me a hard time the entire time. George, why are you doing that? Oh, no. I could have made that shot one-handed like I did on the last screen. 400 and... Oh, my God! 50 million and a mini-wizard mode one-handed. Like, I don't even... This doesn't even bother me. I don't care. Uh-huh. He is that good. He says as he chugs his drink. Yep, just going to keep drinking here. Tracy, yes, George do you have an actual time you're arriving in Frisco so we are now leaving I just sent this out to Extra Paul we are leaving at 8 o'clock p.m. tentatively on Wednesday night and we are driving through which should get us I think there at about noon tomorrow assuming that I said we're leaving at 8 but we actually don't leave until 9 that was me calculating by the way the beep boop boop beep 9 p.m. Yeah, we're leaving at 8 or 9 p.m. Yes, we're driving through the night. Well, there's three people. Jedi McMuffin. Glad Paul knew, but not me. Yes. Well, remember, Jay-Z, I asked you what time should we leave, and you never actually answered. I think we got distracted and started talking about other things. Wait, who are you? Dance Panda. That is Jay-Z, yeah. George, are you bringing a game to TPF? So unless... No, unless, of course, we get to save Xandar and beat it tonight. If we get to save Xandar, I'm bringing it. And then I can just sell it to Fliptronic. Just so that you can unload it? Yeah. What do we think the odds are that you won't return from TPF with a game of some sort? What? Man, so it sounds like... The reason he's driving. Yes. Yes, get up there, get up there. One more. We got it. We did the thing. Woo, saved it. We're good, we're good. Now we have, what's the name of this mini wizard mode that Escher got to with one hand? Totally not. Dash cam stream. Higher peanut. There was a lot of chat. the last time I was driving. I thought so. Cool, hurry. Cherry, cherry multi-bomb. I'm going to try to get there earlier on Thursday, but we'll see. Okay. Ch-ch-ch-ch-cherry bombs! That was... Oh, that's frustrating. At least there's proof there's a tilt-bomb. There is a tilt-bomb. Really? All right, I'm on ball three. I've already been through one extra ball. I think I need another extra ball. Fine, we're going to get it. We're going to get it. No, we're not. Yes, we are. Obviously, the bank. That's how we do this. Now, you remember, Escher said the most important thing is to hit rocket. Oh my god. Got it. Yes. Okay, now we hit some jackpots. Okay, now we can hit our super. No, we can't. Oh! Come on! Get in there! Oh! So close! So close! Oh, that's not frustrating in the least. Oh, you've got to get your points per minute up. Obviously. Yeah, 192 is nothing. The most important thing. Did anyone hear that California State is going to sift through residential trash for organic material and find accordingly? I did not hear that. But we did hear the big news. So no more dumping in the garbage. Yeah I guess to find organic material is that catching that get that strategic drain on Higher peanut I was working on it. I know not the best form. No, it was fine. Uh, one was close. There was, Dr. Curly Tech, there was at least two. I took three good shots, and one of them hit it, but didn't actually go in. Groot wasn't hungry. Yeah, Eligos, we're working on the PPM. We're working on it. Okay, now we're for, now we do the multiball. Wow. Wow. Man, I am loving the way these meet. Oh, no. Somebody just did something. All right. What was that? Sammy Higgins! Welcome to the stream. You know, Sammy, I feel like, is another person we need to get on the stream here. I got to hang out with Sammy a couple weeks ago. Nice. For real, shouldn't you sing her theme song? Uh, I don't know it. If Manu was here, I'd say that he should. Sammy Higgins, how was the stream? Oh, no. There goes Valtry. All right, first game, not awful. Uh, Sammy, what were you streaming tonight? Was it Minecraft, or were you playing something else? Mmm. And Dice was the last person to give a sub away here. We're going to work our way backwards. Dice. Oh, my God. I should know this. It's E. Dice, what are your initials? I feel like it's ES something. Or ERS. Or EBS. Maybe EBS. EBS. EAS? LAE. Oh, my God. well that's better than DIC I guess it's funny because that was going to be my backup if he wasn't in there and it was Minecraft says Razor Brandon by the way is it Razor can I just say Razor it seems to go just fine it's called Sammy by Darren Chris okay Razor your Razor going forward and we need to get Sammy Higgins theme song to where the first time Sammy says something, Sammy by Darren Criss comes up. We're going to go ahead and add that to the list here. We're going to create some action items. I'm going to create a nice little box. Criss. It's called Sammy, sorry. By Darren Criss. and in the meantime surreal and ice-key-doo we're on to question number two which is funny because it's actually question number one on this list yes there will be a quiz on this at the end it's just going to follow me around the internet okay so what is a movie or book you should like but surprisingly don't like it checks all the boxes for things that you should just love, right? Like, you're into science fiction that has to do with, I don't know, like, military or something, but this one movie, even though it checked all the boxes for you, you just can't stand, or likewise, book. What is that for you guys? Oh, my God. Razor with Ungolden Pond. You should try to don't panic flip. I mean, you're doing your money. Excellent. You must be a billionaire if you're wasting your money watching someone else play pinball. I like Neora's answer, Jupiter Ascending. Oh my God! That's pretty good, too, because I don't like that either. Nobody likes Jupiter Ascending except for Fliptronic. I think he's the only person I've ever met who says that Jupiter Ascending is good. Oh my god, Voof! Took me four attempts to get through two towers. Voof, I struggled with two towers and never made it through Return of the King, so I have never finished the Lord of the Rings series. Kindalus. Okay, Kindalus is number two. Both are pinball. Uh, yes. Yeah. The Pretties by Scott Westerfield, says Dance Panda. That one I don't know. So, Sicaria, sorry, Sicara loves Jupiter Ascending. So, I do want to throw out, okay, and no offense meant, there's evidently, there's a lot more people who like Jupiter Ascending, but there is the Honest Trailers for books. Hey, Dance Panda, I'm right there with you. City of Bones, I think I should have liked, and I don't. I also can't stand the television show of, it'll hit me in a second, It's a new Netflix show that recently came out for a book series that I loved, but I can't stand the television show. Also, Wheel of Time I wasn't a huge fan of. The book's absolutely adored. I have tattoos. The television show I'm not a fan of. But, sorry, Jupiter Ascending, and we'll come back and ask you guys those questions. But Jupiter Ascending, the honest trailer is literally somebody walking through the plot, which is the single most convoluted, crazy plot in the existence of movie crazy plots. It's like a D&D adventure gone wrong, and somebody handed the Wachowski siblings two or three hundred million dollars to make a film based on it. That is, that is, yeah, Six of Crows! Oh my god, Neoria, how did you know that? Six of Crows, the Netflix television series, I am not a fan of at all, but loved the two books. Okay, sorry, that was my rant, I am done, I apologize. Gentlemen, is there a particular poker movie in which you should like but don't? This is a hard one because most of the stuff that I don't like I feel is fully justified. I don't know, it's weird because I didn't watch the Lord of the Rings trilogy until like this last year. I didn't actually sit down and watch all three of them. Okay. I enjoyed them. Yeah, I think those were good. I was real meh on The Hobbit. How about that? Okay. The fact that they broke up a short book into three very long movies? Yeah, and I don't think that I... I'm not even sure that I watched the middle one. But, yeah, it's all so in the past at this point that I have no interest in going back and rekindling it. but I like the Lord of the Rings series quite a bit. Oh, has the Amazon Lord of the Rings series come out yet? Are we still waiting on that one? I'm not sure. Actually, not the movies, but I got you. Dice. To quote Kevin Smith, it's three movies of people walking to an effing volcano, and they could have been flown there very easily. I've got to catch up on some chat here. I've made it through the pit. Voof, of course. Voof is an amazing pinball player. If you guys have ever watched VOOF, VOOF, who I haven't seen actually stream pinball any time recently, used to stream a lot of pinball and now streams a lot of video games typically late at night. Check out VOOF if you get the chance, which is V-O-O-V-O-O-S. He's a fantastic pinball player. The City of Bones, Dance Panda, yeah, totally, totally nailed it. Wait a second, I know that last stream. Any, oh, Tess Bishop asked about Guardians of the Galaxy Hints. Asher was here last time and yep it was Yaka Prep Groot get the cherry bomb hit rocket while you're in cherry bomb in order to double the score so that way when you hit the super it's actually worth something significant and then beat the game by just playing well what just happened dice wow that was weird what's that I shouted out Voov and then You shouted out me, but it was because that was the first thing that I typed. Right. I was very confused. It was a double shout-out. Dice gifting a tier one sub to QueenDarkLady, 492 subs in the channel. Dice, that's ridiculous. You're approaching 500. Oh, my God. And 493 to FuzzyCord. That is quite insane. Wow. By the way, I'm on drink number two. X dropping 100 bits as well. My hat's off to you, X. I'm going to put that hat back on and then take it right back off. Dice, the ambassador of Kwan, thank you so much. I hope you're enjoying your evening in the bathroom. Dorkstar, welcome. Oh, my God. I have messed that up so many times. It's Dorkster. I'm so sorry. I don't know why the backwards three looks like an A to me when I see door. I got nothing. There's nothing for that. Yeah, Devon Crates. 500 is a nice round number. Absolutely. Also, the Malazan Book of the Fallen. Fuzzy Cord. I have had like 10 people tell me that the dark conspiracy. No, the dark. The Black Chronicles. The Black Company. Black Company. is a book series I'm supposed to love and I can't get into. And then the Malazan novels is another one that I'm really struggling. Oh, my God. We just hit a hype train, Game Club Central, making it happen with that 100 bits. My hat's off to you, and thank you so much. Come to the dark side. We have cookies over here. So many dark things. Yes, I couldn't get there. Sorry, it was the Black Company. I know I've heard from so many people that the Black Company is supposed to be an amazing series, and I will go back when I am a better reader. I think, and just focus on that. Right now, I am so stuck in the Dresden Files. I have reread that entire series start to finish, and there's 16 books in the series right now, at least four times, and sometimes I just randomly start halfway through and finish it, which is what I just did. I'm now on book 12, which has me so excited. Book 12 is changes. It's fantastic. Second question, we're just going to keep going with this. Gentlemen, is, I don't remember, are either of you guys, it could either be books or movies, what is a series that you will go back and either read or watch? Tiki, I've read that twice, by the way. Go ahead, Serial. Oh, this isn't a movie, but I don't care. I will re-watch the anthology of Always Sunny over and over again. so yeah the first episode I get it I have tried but no but there's moments in that series like in order to enjoy like season 4 you have to get through seasons 1, 2, and 3 but there's moments throughout the series that make it worth it I have just struggled I think just like the Simpsons you can basically pick out any episode and go right to it it's not like they have a whole lot of backstory and you're going to be missing the plot. No, but there's the... I have watched the video of the guy over 20 episodes that started off as a normal person and they have messed with to the point... Hey there, pinball fanatics. I'm Trevor Wilson here. Thanks for watching someone play pinball on the computer. Are you kidding me? Come on, learn a skill. Get a trade. I know there's a pandemic going on. Pinball? Geez, you could be playing pinball. You're sitting there watching someone else Pinball, you're like the sad guy at the bar who didn't bring any frigging quarters. Hope you have a great day. Dance Panda, throw in a Tier 1 sub. We just completed a Level 1 hype train. Dance Panda, my hat's off to you. And that is a Tier 1 gifted sub to Big Brother Pinball. Big Brother, enjoy the emotes. Enjoy the ad-free viewing and being a part of the panic room. Chaotic's throwing 100 bits as well. Awesome. We've got some catching up to do. Also, Ice Ski-Doo, I believe it is your turn. you had something as well. I was going to say something that will probably disappoint you that might hurt your heart. But maybe it will take me a few more times to watch it, but Galaxy Quest will not ruffle my feathers as much as you probably should. No! No! Maybe I'll have to watch it a few times more, I don't know. Galaxy Quest! I was falling asleep during it and he came back to the first question that's the only movie that I know of that makes a joke about a lathe and it's fantastic could you build some sort of rudimentary lathe guys get off the speaker what are you doing is there air you don't know you don't know oh my god Sam Rockwell oh we gotta get out of here before one of those things goes down Oh my god It is so amazing Alright, catching back up Fuzzy Cord says Cowboy Bebop Chaotic says Back to the Future Wait, Cowboy Bebop I'm assuming the anime Not the Netflix series By the way, Fuzzy Cord Wait, I just got here Why is Dice high in the bathroom? Is he hiding from his parents? Shooter There's a story I'm certain around that That hopefully I'm still catching up Dice responded to um let's see here Neoria is in agreement about Cowboy Bebop Tiki Pinball coming in with Dune and It's Always Sunny so Tiki's agreeing with you on the show's Dune amazing book series by the way I have a blog post that says if you're trying to get into science fiction or fantasy do not start with Dune never it is entirely too much it is the basis by which Game of Thrones is done and Game of Thrones is a much easier read than Dune start off with something else to work your way up to Dune, and it will be absolutely worth it. Let's see here. Ghostbusters from 1984. It is very much a slow burn. Yes, sir. Jedi wants to know if Chuck the Chicken is coming to Texas. I still need to... So there was a stream here recently in which Dance Panda was over here, and Dance Panda was just squeezing the rubber chicken in my face for like a good 60 seconds. I need to find that and clip it. I gave it a go, like where I was like scrolling through the episode and I didn't find it in 10 minutes, but I need to go back and find and clip that scene because I want that to be Dance Panda's introduction when she comes into the stream. And I want it to be like 20 seconds long, like long to the point, almost like that scene from Family Guy where they skin their knee and he's like, and it just goes on and on for like three minutes. So much to the point where like, okay guys, it's too much. And then it comes back around and you start laughing a second time and then it continues on past that. And you are laughing really hard at the same thing being done for just an extended period of time. I want to do that, but with the rubber chicken. So should I bring the rubber chicken to TPF? Can we get George another drink? says Game Club Central. Galaxy Quest is the best movie ever, Game Club Central. You can definitely join the chat at some point in the near future. We have to go to Maine and watch Galaxy Quest with Ice Key Do. I like that. Do you have to explain it all? Yes. It's borderline... Sorry, what is the Tim Curry movie that people act out while they're watching it, like where they throw bread at the screen. What's that called? Rocky Horror Picture Show. Thank you, yes. It's borderline Rocky Horror Picture Show. I mean, it's nowhere near that level at all, but I'm going to say it's borderline Rocky Horror Picture Show where every other line is quotable in some of the most amazing ways. I'm delighted with the irony that it took you so long to watch Airplane for these very same reasons. I didn't like Airplane all that much. Okay, well, there's your answer to the question, then. You should like that movie. There you go. That was the answer to the question. But Galaxy Quest, that moment where he's like, by grab-thaw's hammer. What a savings. What a savings. Alan Rickman has never been so upset in his entire acting career as that moment, which he acted better than anything. I bet he loved doing that movie. Oh my, I bet he loved. Like, I'm saying, Alan Rickman as the sheriff of Nottingham with the, locks me and cuts your heart out with a spoon! And later on, when he's like, why is it a spoon, cousin? It's dull, you twit. It'll hurt more. Like, that entire sequence doesn't compare to the the struggle that he had was saying, what a savings as a part of my crap-tars ever. It was fantastic. One of my favorite bits about that movie is that if you get the DVD of it, they have an alternate track where the entire movie is dubbed in the alien language. I know about that one. I watched that for like five minutes without realizing it. did not understand what was going on. Sorry, that's the version that Jedi had on his server, right? Yeah. Okay. And it defaulted to that rack, and I was like, how long is this going to last? I can't figure out what's going on. Dice didn't like Clue, evidently. Oh, no. Like, Clue is a classic. Oh, wait. No, no, no. Maybe, Dice, it wasn't that you don't like Clue. The answer to that question also could have been Clue. Is that the movie that you watch over and over again? Or is that the movie that you should like, but you don't? Hey, Razor, have a great night. Thank you so much for hanging out with us tonight. We're also going to go do a quick fridge walk, which is over here. We're ready for drink number three, obviously. Who even needs pinball at this point, right? Rocky Horror Picture Show is classic Tim Curry and oh M to the F G I effing love Clue and I'll banhammer anyone who says otherwise okay I'll back you up on that dice it's very good it took me watching it like 8 times I think to truly appreciate it so this is by the way this is what we have to go through tonight but I don't actually want anyone to read it. But Sammy, I got it right there. That's the checkbox. That's the action item, Sammy. We're going to get you a sound so that way it pops every time you come in. In the meantime, we need drink number three, which is only... Nobody read this. Let me put the camera right up here. Nobody read it. Well, I moved it around enough where you'd have to go back and do a scene capture. No one could read the words Darren Criss with that handwriting. No one. Joe! Welcome, Joe Hill! Howdy, George. How's it going, Joe? Good. You know, I actually just hit five months on my subscription to Don't Panic Flip. Oh, my gosh! Joe, congrats. My hat's off to you. I am struggling so hard right now with whether or not I should make a gin and tonic, or if I should have a pear, or if I should be really, really bad and have a Guinness. What's bad about a Guinness? Oh my god, a Guinness is amazing but it has gluten Oh, okay, yeah, you gotta take care of yourself that's a separate thing I'm pretty sure the nitrogen will completely correct any effects of the gluten I don't know that that's how that works and I don't know your medical situation so I don't want to advise ingesting things that will make you ill Alright I heard if you close your eyes while you drink it it's the gluten I have no problem doing that, so drink your Guinness all right oh sorry i'm gonna make everybody sick here we go we've got genis genis is happening i'm gonna have to take a sip i apologize everyone for the really awful camera right there joe my hat's off to you thank you so much for being a sub for five months and for hanging out welcome kindalis also was pointing out the gin and tonic so joe you got to catch up on two questions. Are you ready for these? I'm prepared. Okay, we're going to machine gun you. We're starting with the bonus one. Oh, that's right. Shoot. Surreal, what was the bonus question? Because I made that up. It's not on my list. It's Halloween things. That's right. What is either your favorite Halloween costume you've done or a Halloween costume you really want to try but haven't done yet? Hey there, pinball fanatics. It's your old pal K. Trevor Wilson here. You're all a bunch of nut sacks for watching someone play pinball on the computer. Are you kidding me? Come on, learn a skill. Get a trice. I know there's a pandemic going on. I'm used to giving people interruptions. You're sitting there watching someone else pinball? You're like the sad guy at the bar who didn't bring any friggin' quarters. Thank you so much for watching. Kindalus, you're amazing. Okay, so, George, I have a David Pumpkin suit that I wear on stream sometimes in October. And I kept, when I when I take my daughter out trick-or-treating and I wear this David S. Pumpkin suit, I keep forgetting I'm wearing a Halloween costume, and I'll be looking around at all the other people wearing costumes and being like, oh, man, I should have done a costume this year. And then people are like, oh, my God, I love your David Pumpkin suit. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I am wearing a costume. It's nice. I am so sorry. I don't know who David Pumpkin is. Oh, my gosh. I miss him. Okay, there's a Saturday Night Live skit called David Pumpkins. Like, just, okay, I know you're not Manu and you don't run, like, random stuff that could get copyright struck on your channel all the time. But, like, seriously, you have a checklist. Write down YouTube SNL David Pumpkins. All right. Because a part of the whole joke is that nobody knows who David Pumpkins is, and so nobody should tell you who David Pumpkins is now. David Pumpkins, SNL. Exactly. You know what the difference is between you and me? Hey, speaking about MPTJK. Come on now. I'll make this one too. Dice, I have missed it. Like, I am pop culture there for a very short period of time, between 1998 and maybe 2002. The first time I saw David Pumpkins, I had an insane fever. I was super sick home from work. Wait, wait, wait. Was that fever? Could it only be fixed with more cowbell? No? Okay, I'm so sorry. Continue on. But rather than more cowbell, there's this political analyst I read on Twitter who will do these, like, 40 tweet screens about, like, whatever's going on in their head right now, whatever. So they had this thing where they're like, okay, I just have to talk about David Pumpkins and Saturday Night Live right now. And I'm reading this tweet thread breaking down how David Pumpkins is like Tom Bombadil or Cthulhu for a modern age. And I'm just like, how feverish am I right now? My brain can't process this. And then I went and Googled it, and it was real. And I texted all of my friends. And I was like, who decided not to tell me about this? Because you knew this was going to be exactly my thing. you knew I would never shut up about this ever if I found out and you all colluded to keep it from me and they had never heard of it either and then they saw it and they were like oh if we had seen this first we would not have told you okay so I'm sorry but David Pumpkins is comparable to Tom Bombadil like the worst narrative character in the entire Lord of the Rings series and obvious rode himself into a corner and needed to get out character. And, I mean, there's multiples of those in Lord of the Rings. And Cthulhu, like, one of the ancients, right? Well, so the thing you've got to keep in mind about these characters, like with Cthulhu, you've got this concept of beyond the stars and below the sea. You've got these two great depths, two reaches that are antithetical to each other. but your brain can't really hold them in the same place and that's part of what makes Tom Bombadil difficult and that's also part of what makes David Pumpkins difficult. Okay. I feel like my expectations are here and I have a feeling that David Pumpkins is going to achieve those expectations now. I mean, I'm going to be honest, George. Most things that I like, I go into it and I'm like, oh yeah I mean it's a really good exploration of crime and the drug trade in Baltimore and I got a lot out of it but I don't know if you'll enjoy it you know it's called The Wire I recommend it but no like David Pumpkins there is no way that I could oversell David Pumpkins okay that's how I could do wouldn't get you a quarter of the way there Game Club Central and Dance Panda are things and lowering your expectations. Take it down to about an 11. Okay, so Tom Hanks plays David Pumpkins, and he talked about how after that episode of SNL came out, he's just like, I have played so many roles in my life, but people are going to be coming and leaving jack-o'-lanterns on my grave when I'm dead in 30 years over this. This is the role I'm going to be remembered for, and I don't think I'm happy about it, but I know it's true. Oh my God, my smile muscles are exhausted at this point. I am really looking forward to recapping on David Pumpkin as well. Okay, Joe, you got one more question to catch up on here. Yeah, please do, please do. Okay, what is a movie or book you should like but surprisingly don't? Oh, that's a weird one. because even when I don't like something, on some level, I'm interested in why I don't like it. Okay. And so then I'm back to being like, oh, this was a valuable use of my time. I'm having a hard time thinking of something where I was just like, oh, this is just not for me. What were the other people's answers? Just out of curiosity. So, Surreal and IceKidoo, what were your answers while I'm trying to think of mine? I think I said the Hobbit. Okay. Wasn't there another one that I realized that I didn't like? There was also Galaxy Quest by Ice-Kidoo. No, well, no, no, no. I don't think I should like Airplane. It is a style of humor I have never appreciated. I don't like Naked Gun. I don't like Naked Gun 2. I have never appreciated that type of satire or that type of humor. But the big one for me was I have tried The Black Company multiple times and could not get into it. And another one that somebody else brought up was the Malazan novels, and I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. And I made it about halfway through the first novel twice and could not get in. Oh, and also Kashil's Dart was another book that I tried and tried. And what I keep hearing from people is you have to make it past the first 400 pages and then it gets good. yeah but see I feel like that's the sort of thing you don't have to forgive that comes up in animes a lot too if you can get to the third season it really pulls it out you know like right also one of the first ones that somebody came up with was Jupiter Ascending which don't talk too badly about because there is a lot of people in chat who really like Jupiter Ascending I'm having a hard time with Galaxy Quest but I might just need to watch it a few more times yeah we're making a pact to go out I think to Maine and watch Galaxy Quest with Ice Cube so George okay I don't know if I have a good answer to this question but one of the reasons I wanted to hop in tonight was I saw that the venue for Chicago Pinball Expo had the dates leaked and then later the site went up with the dates, even though the hotels and stuff aren't really updated yet And I was wondering what is the like con hotel for Chicago Pinball Expo If I want to stay where the action is that is Okay so we walked over Is it the Embassy Suites No Is there like a hotel connected to the convention center that most of the people stay at and go to the hotel bar from? Because that's the one I want to go to. Yeah, that's the one... Is it? MPT3K. We stayed at the one and we had to walk to it. It was a pain in the butt. And Tracy was there too. And Extra Paul. And Alan from Pinball Mafia, we were all at this other hotel, which we had to walk to, which is a pain in the butt. Yeah, so my girlfriend has mobility issues, and so we're going to want to stay in the convention hotel. Okay. And so I want to book early before they really do a big push on all this stuff, and so I don't, you know, miss the opportunity to get a room. So where's the good hotel if you don't want to travel? Expo was Chicago it was like the Chicago Hilton or something like that I think it could be the Hilton it was gorgeous and it was amazing and god I wish I could have gotten there because I ended up driving out to Chicago and just driving everybody back and forth did I? I stayed sober enough when I was driving I'm just going to go ahead and preface that I was always sober enough to drive when I did drive but there were times when I couldn't and I think we walked and left my car there or we had somebody else drive. We were very safe the entire time. Thank you. Tracy ditched my bus the whole one night. Thank you, Tracy, for keeping George safe. Yeah, and then I tried because Tracy wanted to go back and crash. She was crashing someplace else and was going to take an Uber and I gave her my car keys and I'm like, just take the truck. You'll be back tomorrow morning. No big deal. So she was very sober the entire time. So, Renner-France-Schomburg Convention Center Hotel is what's listed for last year. Okay. So that's the actual convention center. Okay. Yeah. Thought I was going, but work sucks. Also, Sammy, it sounds like, might be going. Yes! Yeah, it would be fantastic, because, yeah, so Sammy and my girlfriend know each other, and my brother might even be there, because he went to grad school in Chicago, and, like, it's going to be a whole thing. Like, we're going to try and get a lot of hard luck and Queen Dark Lady up there. A lot of the people you hung out with at Tennessee Game Days, we're going to try and get up to a thousand people. Oh my god, that's going to be so much fun! We kept going out to my car, so I brought so much beer and alcohol from Colorado that we kept taking trips out to the car to do shots or drink crazy beers and then go back in and then come back out and we're going to do the same thing here at TPF because I'm bringing a ton. Voof, by the way, this is Expo. Just out of Schaumburg, north of Chicago by about maybe 30, 45 minutes. There's a link in chat, Joe, with the actual Expo 22 reservation link for that hotel. Oh, awesome. Okay, thank you. That is fantastically helpful. Because I really want to get this booked early. I don't want to miss the opportunity to get a room. Yes, I need to do the exact same. So I am also going to book a room as soon as possible because it would be so nice to be able to stay there. Dice is losing it a bit in the bathroom, so I'm going to call my casino host and see if I can do an impromptu slot stream so I can get out of here. By the way, Dice's, I think, was supposed to be at a weed convention this week, next week, and the following week, and is stuck in a bathroom right now. I'm assuming smoking copious amounts. And it's all very legal, and I hope you're doing well, Dice. Cheers to you. October 19th through the 22nd. thankful. That was, if I remember, Joe, you were saying that the only issue was that it can't happen, obviously, over Halloween again, right? Yeah, and so this year, so the Nashville Pinball Expo, which is called Music City Multicon, is going to be Halloween weekend again, but I can be in town for Halloween, I just can't be out of town, because my kid wants to trick-or-treat with her friends, you know? Right, right. So, yeah, we'll do Chicago Pinball Expo one weekend, and then the next weekend we'll do something smaller closer to home. Awesome. Oh, my God, that's going to be so much fun. I'm so looking forward to it. And, oh, that was just brutal right there. But Expo is such a great time. On top of that, it's in Schaumburg. Now, granted, the games that are on free play are nowhere near as many as there are at TPF. so when you get a pass make sure the pass allows you to go over to the other side and play basically in the stern area it really is a massive area that is filled with hundreds of games by all the manufacturers and stern does the majority of them is that stern pass called like a stern pass or is it called something else I so because TP the pinball network has a booth, we got passes to be back there the entire time that kind of allowed us to go back and set things up. So I'm not sure what the standard pass details were, but did somebody else actually go who could say anything about the pass? Does the standard pass allow access to both? Oh my god, the king beds are already sold out at Expos as Queen Dark Lady. That is disappointing. First of those last two days... Hey, The Cure. I'm sorry? The Cure. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. No, no, this is the 80s pinball stream here. Right, I mean, because it's Guardians of the Galaxy there. Alright. There we go. Found that shot. That shot is really hard on the fly. It's way further down than it's supposed to be. Now, Joe, you actually have a decent amount of time on this game. Oh, yeah. I have more time on this game than any other pinball table in the world, literally. We played this every night, usually before dinner and also kind of a little bit after. Because, you know, it would be the sort of thing where it's like, okay, time to preheat the oven. while the oven's preheating, let's play pinball, you know? Yep. And then, you know, after dessert, my kid would wash her hands. I'd say, okay, let's play pinball for a little while longer. And she has been loving co-op mode on TNA. I was kind of worried she'd be like, oh, this isn't as good as Guardians because there's not as many modes or whatever. But, like, co-op mode is fantastic for a kid her age. Oh, my God, it's so good. The ability to actually make some serious progress on the game and do so with somebody else is huge. It just boosts the confidence of your kids so much. Yeah. It's booked in. Looks good. Oh, my God. Sammy just did it right now. Oh, see, I wasn't going to book it while I'm on the call. I still am. I don't want to split my attention and screw something up. But, yeah. My plan was to book it tomorrow. So don't book all the rooms, Sammy. Don't get all 25 that are left or whatever. Only standard rooms left, so I don't know if I would wait, Joe. Yeah. If you ask nice, please she'll book yours. Right? No. No, I should... I actually have somebody I could delegate that to. I think she went to bed. I need to start delegating more stuff like that, though. Yes! Oh, my God, if you have somebody to delegate that to... Well, maybe don't wait until tomorrow, but leave it up to the stream. Yeah, yeah, because I've got a project manager, and she's always saying, like, give me more work to do so that you have less work to do. And she's right, but, you know, she doesn't, like, have my credit card to book a hotel room, you know. Damn, I need one of those. I mean, you know, find someone. So the way that I met mine, well, not met, but, like, the reason I hired mine was I was working on a charity event, And I was watching her basically pick up all of the things that the guy running the event dropped and solve them. And I was like, that guy makes exactly the same mistakes I make. I need to hire this person to help me with my things I'm letting drop, you know? So, you know, at that point I just said, hey, what's your hourly rate? And we sorted something out, you know? Looks like Dice might just take the extra 25 rooms, then he'll sub 11 to us. Okay, Sammy, I'd like to point out that I did not re-explain David F. Pumpkins to you, because that would be very, very patronizing, and I know you know who David Pumpkins is. People were begging for it. They're like, oh, Sammy's here, explain David Pumpkins to Sammy, and I was like, no. I'll take the point out that only one person said that I mean the thing is though when you have this many people in chat versus this many people in the audience if one person says it they're probably speaking for three or four people you know okay that sounds fair yeah that's probably fair looks for a trip to Chicago we'll help you fix all your problems and wear a cat head while doing it Oh, I didn't complete Sanctuary, so I have to do it all over again. Yeah, unless you, have you done that thing where you drain it right as it hits zero on the timer and it holds the progress? No. Yeah, seriously, that's the, if you start the game on Sanctuary enough times, which is one of the ways that I would try to get high scores. because, like, on a game where I got a good sanctuary run on ball one, I would set myself up for success later, you know? Okay, okay. But basically, if the ball drains right as it ticks to zero, there's a glitch where it doesn't clear your progress. Bloids. I like that. It took me a month to figure out what caused that because it would just happen sometimes. Darn it. I eventually was able to test it out. When you guys go for the expo, how many days can you go? A week for three days? I can only go Friday night through Sunday afternoon, because I've got to get my kid out of school at three, drive up to Chicago eight hours away, so we get in close to midnight on Friday. We have all day Saturday. Sunday at noon, we roll out to head back to Nashville. I wonder if that limits the availability of some rooms if they try to leave them more open for longer stays I mean maybe but like I mean worst case I could always overbook the room and tell the hotel hey I'm coming in a day late like because it's more important to me to have the on site thing because of the mobility issues and stuff than to like save Like, I'm trying to have a good experience at the point where I'm driving up there, not save the most money. Oh, my God. Well, that's insane. I have never been to the Windy City. Oh, man. So, I grew up about right in Schaumburg. In fact, those are my... The phrase stomping grounds comes up. Yeah, like Woodfield Mall is where I literally saw the movie Mallrats. Like, it was, yeah, I grew up there. You should have high school friends that you can crash on their couch at. I had no friends in high school. Oh, okay. Oh, snap. Happy birthday. Okay, so Sammy booked Thursday through Monday. Thankfully, I can fly direct from Sacramento through with no layovers. Awesome. And, by the way, Sammy, hold on, hold on, hold on. Sammy, check this out. Wait, wait for it, wait for it. Oh, I don't think that mobile button works for some reason. We're going to go here. And we just drank our third drink, so we're on number four. This is getting real right here. But, boom. Sammy, check that out right there. We have some cool stuff here. By the way, if you have a kid, these punch cards are amazing. So there we go. This is for a Nanoleaf light kit that Zoe wants. She just needs two more checks. Although after this evening, she may have lost one. But yeah, there we go. That was from Sammy. Sammy, thank you so much. Uh-oh. And what's the uh-oh? You said she may have lost one. Uh-oh. Oh, yeah. That was 45 minutes of chatting with Zoe while she was at her mom's tonight. That was a little on the rough side because she put on fingernail polish when she was explicitly told not to by her mom. We balled in there. Yeah, exactly. Just the not listening to mom thing. Two fridge cams in one night, says Iron Fox. I know, it's an awesome magnet. I drove through Chicago this past summer, says Queen Dark Lady, at night. I drive a little nuts, but Chicago drivers scare me. They are very aggressive. But here's the thing. Just stay in the right lane. Like, the left lane is only for passing in Chicago. Like, if you are not doing double the speed limit, just don't ever be in the left lane, you will be fine. That is the key. Put you on a bond. Yeah, exactly. I haven't been there, but I have heard that the Autobahn is all about making sure you stay out of that left lane. I hate being in the passing lane. Yeah, when I drive across the U.S., I am an adamant pass in the left, move back in the right, pass in the left, move back in the right. Spudkiller, welcome to the stream. Your fridge is scary clean. And so, Sir Snarf, you'll notice my daughter is not here today, which means that we have made it through all the food in the house. So when I have my kid, we go through and do a shopping. It is filled with food, and that is what we eat. We make the food beautifully every single night. We had chicken. we had sausage and pasta one night we had salad I think every single night and there was another meal and I can't remember what it was yeah exactly Sammy Higgins my daughter is not here so I don't need food I had leftover pasta which was the last of the food in the house earlier today and then had a smoothie for dinner and alcohol There is calories in alcohol. There is 160 in this can right here. I mean, at a certain point, though, I deal with the same thing to some degree because, like, it's always easier to eat healthy when my kid is here because I want her to eat healthy. Exactly. But, like, I'm already old, and even when I was at the healthiest point in my life, I still ended up having medical issues, so it didn't really matter that I exercised and ate well, you know. But, like, you've got to have a supply of dry goods in the house. So if you get hit with COVID or something, you've got 10 days worth of food, you know? Yep. Well, I mean, you can always order and have it at a later. Well, my point is, when my kid leaves, if I'm like, oh, I don't have 10 days worth of dry goods, I'm like, I need to go to the store to get at least that 10 days worth of dry goods. And you know what, while I'm there, oh hey, Costco has like a fajita chicken platter that's worth four meals. So I'll put that in the oven and then I'll eat that for the next four meals, you know, in the microwave after that, you know. There's ways to do it. Yep, well said. I went to look through my movie collection because I felt dissatisfied. I didn't have a good answer to your question about what book or movie I thought I should like that I couldn't finish or get through. And the answer is Star Wars Episode VIII. Like, I loved Star Wars when I was a kid. I probably read 40 of the novels, if not 60. I've probably read so many dozens of those novels. I just loved Star Wars. But I just couldn't get through the new trilogy. I got halfway through Episode VIII, and I was just like, I don't know. I just don't feel like I have the time for this. You know? You are not the only person. And, like, to some degree, maybe if Lucas was still making it himself, I would have given it more time, and maybe it ends up being a good, satisfying film at the end. But, like, when Disney buys something, like, here's the thing about companies, is I only have so much patience with any one of them. And they might think, we're going to buy up all these other companies you like, and then we'll get more of your patience and more of your love and admiration. But they don't. They get the same amount of patience. And so, like, I was already tired of Disney for the year from other things, and then I get partway into this movie, and I'm just like, Disney, you use your quota. I just can't give you any more. If you don't want to have the same quota as Marvel and every other thing you bought, then don't buy that many things. Like, I'm done. And I just kind of stopped in the middle of the movie, and I never finished it. Oh, wow. Did you also not watch the final movie then? No, I never watched 9 because, like, I just couldn't get through 8, you know? Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. Okay, so no 9 either. So that means I shouldn't even ask the question about did you make it to at least, like, this scene in that particular movie? I guess not. I mean, I watched The Mandalorian later and part of the Book of Boba Fett, but, like, I don't know. Well, we can all agree that the solo was amazing, right? I haven't seen it. Once again, it was made by the same people, and, like, I'm not going to get, like, once you burn my patience for, like, that time period, I'm not coming back to you. You can't see it, but I'm doing my best troll face that I can. Yeah. The thing is, I feel like young, aspiring artists who have never been given a shot ever are doing weird stuff all the time. It's like, I'm going to go watch something they made. I'm going to watch some weird indie movie that somebody recommended on Twitter. So, you know, George, you saw, like, the Belcourt Theater is near where I live in Nashville. Like, they have all sorts of crazy indie movies come through all the time. Right. And even if I don't feel comfortable going to the movie theater right now, I trust their curation. And I can go get those same movies via iTunes or whatever. Because of COVID, they're all immediately on iTunes, right? You know, so I'm trying to stretch out and watch other things rather than just, like, more of what Disney told me I should watch. Okay. Because it's the same thing with Microsoft. Like, when they're like, hey, we're going to mess with your Xbox account and your Minecraft account and your Windows. I'm like, I spent so much time trying to fix my Minecraft account now that it's an Xbox account. I'm not going to try Windows 11. You burned every opportunity you had for me to consider Windows 11 realistically. It's done with this other nonsense. Wow. Windows 11 isn't all that great to begin with. I am not happy with the majority of adjustments or changes they made. I have a very serious question, if I may. Wait, how serious is serious? Give me far too serious. It's pretty serious. Still have no idea. Question three. Okay, let's hear it. No, what is question three? Oh, you have the questions. But I'm in the middle of a thing. I mean, mystery is lit. He's got it. And the hadron enforcer's qualified. There's a lot of stuff going on here. Yep, no, no, no. Yeah, I need a second. Hey, it completes. Thanks for a good one, George. Same. Thank you. Yeah, you got an add-a-ball. Wow. Whew. You're doing great. Don't let surreal throw you off. Don't let Surreal mess with you. I mean, this really is, in my opinion, one of the best pinball tables. Like, I was dubious because I had only played it a few times on location. And when you play it on location, you don't really get the chance to understand all the different modes and to really get a feel for it, but, like, there's a lot of depth to this game. Yeah, it's a very fun game. Like, the rule set on it is great for scoring. Even Escher was pretty adamant about this being a great game for tournament play. And he is not quick to hand out any kind of positivity with regards to, like, tournament play style games. One thing my daughter loved was if she did Yako Ero first, she could always get a good edge on me in score, because I would choose the more challenging modes first. You know, and so it's nice that there's a way for entry-level players to just jump in and get something good on the boards, you know? Yep. And that's, it's so key when it comes to games in general to try and get new people in is how easy is it with the toy to know what to do? And this is, it's such a Groot and the ball lock over here. Those are two very easy things like, hey, that's what I'm doing. Oh no, I just started the multiball without a mode. I was trying to demonstrate, not realizing I was ready for ball three. I'm sorry. Also, the second, third question. This is good. So, what retro video or board game really needs to be refreshed or updated? Monopoly. I'm sorry? Monopoly. Okay. I mean, George, are you familiar with the ancient Indian game called Snakes and Ladders? Maybe? In America, it was chutes and ladders. I think Hasbro put out a version of it. I don't think I'm familiar with it. Oh, my God. Double drain there. Okay, so the idea is it's got a big grid, and you advance along the grid, and there are opportunities to advance and opportunities to fall back down. And the snakes make you fall back down. The ladders let you climb. The original Indian game had like ropes and ladders. Sorry, ropes and snakes because I don't think they had ladders yet. It's a very old game. Long time. But, okay, another game from India. Are you familiar with chess? Yes. I have played chess a couple times. Yeah, so one of the projects that I was working on last year that I didn't have time to develop fully is basically if you play chess on an 8x8 snakes and ladders board. You can call it chess and ladders, and things get weird real fast. Because you can have the pieces end on the head of a snake and go back down to the end of the tail or the bottom of a ladder and go up to the top. You can use a procedurally generated board to get all sorts of weird stuff happening. I think chess and ladders is the most elegant answer to this question. Okay, they could use a refresh. I've heard of chutes and ladders, but never snakes and ladders. Also, Candyland came up. CNK mentioned Risk. There's Risk Legacy. I'm going to call that an already existing polish on that. IceKidoo or Stareel, do either of you have thoughts on games besides, I think actually IceKidoo, you mentioned Monopoly, right? Yeah, my buddy did a, he does board games at this very time, he actually creates them from scratch and he was building upon Monopoly and thought it kind of sucked as far as how it becomes so one-sided after a while he created this game from scratch called BatCat and he had all of these big corporations and conglomerations all around the board. Like, it was all just offshoots of, like, big corporation names. Like, Walmart would have some weird name that was similar to Walmart, but not quite Walmart. And he had these cards, instead of, like, chancing community chess, you'd have, like, power and influence or leverage cards, where you could bribe senators to get, like, laws passed in your favor. You could use lobbyists to try to help get laws, you know, in your favor and all that stuff like that. It was really cool. Okay. I think that was a cool reincarnation of kind of, like, Monopoly. He just kind of came up with it. I like that. I like the idea of taking the business aspect and really going with it. Yeah, you could bribe senators, all kinds of weird stuff, just to kind of get business in your favor. Pretty neat. Surreal, did you have anything on that one? I don't have a whole lot invested in this, because I don't play a whole lot of board games, but statistically, I would say maybe Senate, because the ancient Egyptians played it 5,000 years ago, and it's been the same ever since. So it might be due for an upgrade. It's been a few years, I think, is what you're getting at? Yeah. Okay. I actually didn't have an answer for this one kind of prepped. I'm just going to catch up. Ooh, HeroQuest says the QDL. Not refreshed or updated, because, by the way, HeroQuest came out, like, in my prime gaming time, so I really got into HeroQuest for a while. Not refreshed or updated, but released with more new expansions. Okay. Voof has a HeroQuest Complete sitting under his desk. There's online Monopoly now, and it's as terrible as it sounds, says DevinCrate. I saw a full HeroQuest base game at GameStop last week. It was clearly old and had seen better days, but it was there, which was a surprise. We used to use HeroQuest to do large-scale D&D battles, where we would have armies versus other armies, and everyone would bring their HeroQuest sets. And that's how we managed it. We would build these massive multi-level terrains and do huge, epic army battles. It was a lot of fun. GameStop is trying to become a nerd hobby store. Well, they kind of have to, considering most games have moved to an online subscription or an online purchase system. Pinball needs an update. Just ballas and flippers, time for a change. That's kind of interesting. Does pinball need a P3 style refresh? No. Alright, Surreal has weighed in. Oh my god. Dance Panda. Oh, it's Dance Panda. Mythic Quest, the television show, which is one of my favorite shows of all time. There should be a game that's called Dinner Party. And if you've ever seen Mythic Quest, that will make absolute sense to you. Oh my god, I love Mythic Quest. Thank you for being another human being who has watched this show. I sound like an insane person every time I talk about it. dinner party like dinner party I'm doing the hands you can't see it you can't do oh my gosh I am so happy that there are other people out there who have watched Mythic Quest uh isn't streaming at the refresh okay that's kinda that's kinda interesting right like I I kinda would argue that the pinball pinball is fairly refreshed like they got LCDs and there is the P3 like it in fact I have a P3 on order I very excited I have to get rid of at least one game I probably am going to get rid of Guardians for the Multimorphic P3 I just have too many games. I literally don't have enough room. I have room for one more pinball machine, and Joe, you have TNA. So I'm either getting rid of TNA or Guardians. But they're both so good. Sorry, did you just say you're either getting rid of TNA or whatever else you said? Yes. You said Guardians. Guardians. I mean, they're both so good, though, George. They're very, well, I mean, okay, the other option is an LE Godzilla, an LE Star Trek, a Tron Pro that is modded to the nines. Oh, yeah, Star Trek is nice. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, no, no, here, here. Why am I even... You can't get rid of TNA, though. That's been under your forever pen. But, George, you've got, like, a table. You've got a table with a lamp on it back there behind you. You have more rooms than a house. You could get rid of other furniture first, is my point. Hold up, hold up. So, here we go. I'm going to take a step back. I have room right there for a pinball machine, right? And, by the way, I got all the lights out. Is that wall load-bearing? Hold up. Is that wall over there? There we go. Okay. This wall, I have no idea. I have not checked. So we've got this wall over here with all the equipment. We've got Iron Maiden right now, and this is a temp trade for Godzilla. That's the thing is I really want this game. So I think I'm willing to sell multiple games to buy Iron Maiden off of Man Adams and get Godzilla back, because Godzilla is a great game too. We've got this LE Star Trek. We've got, which, by the way, QDL, I think, won that Stranger Things, so I have to get that wrapped up and shipped out. We've got this amazing, look at this Tron. Look at that. It is gorgeous. It is so lit up. It is amazing. It's got the blue color DMD. It's got the topper. It's got this crazy stuff happening in here with the LEDs. this is by far the greatest pinball machine ever made Jurassic Park Mike loves that Jurassic Park machine it's so good he loves it isn't this your third or fourth one though? it's my second and I'm honestly thinking about getting rid of it to buy an LE at some point when the market comes back down to the real world okay so that's over here and then over here we have a Stern To the left, though, to the left, you've got this whole, what is that table? If you don't need to eat there, you can eat standing in the kitchen. So that's what we were doing until about two weeks ago, when Dance Panda and her son came over and helped me put this together, because I needed a table to eat at. So now I have a table to eat at. Okay, but you also, you showed it in another stream, you had like that basement, like TV lounge area. You can eat down there. Like, you can set up another pinball machine here where that table is. So we're not going up and down any stairs. I'm done with that. I'm not telling you to go downstairs. No, I'm just saying, like, you don't play with your feet. Your daughter doesn't need her own room. I mean, come on. Oh, my God. Also, if she ate a plywood on a play field, makes for a good table. If I put a pinball machine in my kid's room, she would be ecstatic. Like, I mean, I'm just saying. So this is destroyed right now, by the way. I have not cleaned up the downstairs. So this is normally where we eat, but we've been trying to eat upstairs, and that's our dinner table right now. Also, this is all the Magic the Gathering stuff I'm bringing to TPS this weekend. It's going to be so much. And then that's my office. Oh, are you printing pogs? I'm sorry? Are you printing pogs? No, everybody else is printing pogs. I never got into them. I would love to print pogs. I still have some Slammers that Scott made me for TNA that I'll end up bringing, but I don't have any pogs. I'm not there. It sounds like those are the new business cards in the pinball community. So I was thinking I would print some pogs, you know, with Joe Hill's stuff, like my Twitter profile picture and other stuff for when I go up to Chicago Expo. So, you know, you got until October, George. You don't have to do it for TPF. Okay, okay. It's a half dollar, George. so that's what I have room for right there I have room for one pinball machine so that way I can have dinner there otherwise there's just not enough room in here okay switching back over from the back of that machine to the back of the other machine that's the full width of your condo yeah that's it That's the, well, at least the living room here. It goes up a little bit more. Chaotic, yeah. So I've got the GameCube, the SNES. I've got a PlayStation 2. I've got a Nintendo Switch and an Xbox 360. You don't use the fire. I know, Dance Panda. Oh, man, I didn't even go over the lights. Hold up. Here, really quick. While we're doing this, that's reverse. I'm sorry, everybody. So we got those lights over here. That looks really cool. And then we've got those lights over here now set up, and we've got those lights over there. So we have all the lights, plus we have the lights that are underneath over here. Somebody rave. I see you. Did you just rave? Somebody's raving on us. We have lights up there. I wanted to see how the new lights were integrated. Yeah, so I don't have the new Gobeys integrated yet. But then we also have lights down there, which are... Looks like you're getting dizzy. Yeah. There's a couple things going on here and there. Okay, now we're back. The lights look really good, too. Thank you! Ooh, and also we've got the blue, which is nice, because the blue then, you can see the blue in the background over... there. Right there. Yes. I mean, the astute chat participant would just set the color to match whatever mission you're doing in Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, that's an excellent point. Hmm. And we're in Yaka Arrow, which is kind of like a teal, right? Yeah, it's a light blue, yeah. Spud killer. All that unused space on the ceiling. Come on. Time to heat and cool your garage. Oh, the garage doesn't have internet either. Okay. Okay, it is already after 12, and we have one more, sorry, two more questions. And this is so much more important than finishing this game right now. What cartoon would make the best pinball theme that's not already a pinball theme? See, I don't know what already is a pinball theme, because on one level I'd be like, obviously the Flintstones would be so iconic, but for all I know, the Flintstones was a pinball machine in 1965, right? 1999 or 98. Okay, you see what I'm saying? It was based on the movie, though. Yeah. So I think if I had to pick a cartoon, I would say either Metalocalypse or the Venture Brothers. Two of Cartoon Network's incredible cartoons that, as far as I know, have not been made in pinball machines. Okay. Dance Panda coming in with Daria and Beavis and Butthead. Hey, Kabaria is a good choice. Daria would be very cool. I'm all in on Pinky and the Brain. Animaniacs, I'll go with Pinky and the Brain. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, just go with Animaniacs. I think Pinky and the Brain should have its own pin. What is it? I think Phineas and Ferb. Yes, Melon's Away. Yes, Phineas and Ferb. Have you ever seen the show The Good Place? Yes. So I've been, you know how Eleanor has that bedroom that's up on that stage, and then there's those stairs that come out in the later seasons? Yes, yeah. And it's like, oh wait, there were stairs here this whole time. The idea of having this bedroom area that you can't get the ball to until the ramps come up or the stairs come out. Okay. It just seems like such an iconic pinball thing. I know that's not a cartoon, but in my brain, that's like the dream-themed pinball machine for me. I would love to see a Good Place pinball machine where the stairs come out so you can get the ball up to the bedroom. Yeah, and the bedroom is an upper play field. I like that. Exactly. Dance Panda thrown out Hitmonkey. Oh, my God. Hitmonkey is the most fantastic television show I think I've ever seen. not the kind of cartoon I was thinking of but would be amazing. Johnny Quest I ended up watching a lot more of I think than I meant to but my go to is Darkwing Duck I fell in love with that as a kid and I think there's a real opportunity for some Darkwing I'll give it a It's time to get dangerous Dangerous No that was good Sammy Johnny Barbaro like the old that's very blanketing so yeah there's all kinds of good stuff that covers a bunch of them right Scooby Doo and Speed Racer and whoa whoa what was the other one with the buggy that wasn't Speed Racer wait what was the one with the buggy you're thinking of Wacky Races am I like Wacky Doggy and his dad and, like, Yogi and all those different characters. Feed Buggy. Manglepuss. Oh, my God. Dance Panda throwing out a Scanner Darkly. Not the kind of cartoon I was thinking of. Okay, that's a really good suggestion, though. There's a lot of good stuff in a Scanner Darkly. Oh, there's a lot of good stuff. Also, Voov saying, going back to one of our earlier questions, Things I should like but do not. Darkwing Duck. You know, this Skinner Darkly thing got me thinking because my brain doesn't work normally. You know, I could imagine Dune, the new movie, where they're like, it's Dune, but it's only part one. Unlike Lord of the Rings, we're going to release a series of several pinball machines. We have Dune the Pinball Machine Part 1. doing the pinball machine volume two. And it's like, and everybody's just like, no, just please, please combine them. Please just give me Joe Dorosky's doing the pinball machine. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. This has Aquaman in it, but like in a place with no water. You're going to love it. Well, I'm still waiting for Back to the Future, like a remake that's actually better than the Davies one that came out way back then. That's supposed to be happening right now. That is one of the legit, like, because Keith Elwin is such a fan of Back to the Future, he's supposed to be on Keith Elwin, and that's his next, or, sorry, Keith Elwin is supposed to be on Back to the Future, and that's his next design. I like Cool World, Dance Panda. I could go with Anne Floch, actually. I'm going to jump on that one. Cool World is interesting, though, by the way, because that's Brad Pitt, and Brad Pitt's amazing. Boy, is that a deep cut these days, though. Right? Of all of the Brad Pitt movies, he is not remembered for Cool World. That's actually a really good point. He is not known for that. Isn't there another one where he had really big hair that he also maybe isn't known for? Ooh, Dance Panda with Love, Death, and Robots. Have any of you guys seen that Netflix series? Yes. So much opportunity there. for it's like 18 or 12 to 18 different shorts done by different uh animators uh all of them are amazing they're so good non-sequitur to each other not related at all but man some of them are good and that was johnny sway dance panda coming in thank you uh it's impractical impractical but instead of two pinball machines that you had to play co-op simultaneous to talk to each other would be neat. If you were going to do that, they should do something together, right? Dice would like Melon's Away's suggestion of Gravity Falls, for sure. Right, that is definitely right up Dice's alley. Ultimate Cartoon Pin, The Snorks, Battle for Conca Island, Spud Killer, I do not know The Snorks at all. I want to see two pinball machines that you can set side by side, and they can play independently, but you could also play them in a paired mode where, you know, it's like us opening in the side of the cabinet of each of them. It would allow the ball to connect between the two, and you could shoot it through this front door, and it would go into the other machine. Then you would have to jump over, play on that machine for a while, and then, you know, get it up through and get it back over to the other machine. You'd have a certain amount of time before you could do that or you'd lose the ball. I think that would be kind of neat. That would be cool. That would actually be really cool. I love that idea. That opens up the possibility to all kinds of co-op rules. Yeah, you like hit that shot, move it over, and now this person... Well, what's interesting, you could do that with the P3 very easily. Yeah. Right? Like a virtual shot that moves it over onto the other player, and that player then has to pick it up. That's kind of fun. I like that idea. donate one of your balls to your... Let the other player continue? Yeah, or, you know, maybe they've got a 5x multiplier going on their playfield or something, so you're like, okay, cool, let's do that. Got it. The Snorks are the Smurfs underwater, but different colors. Dance Panda Archer is interesting. They couldn't get the license to make it happen for Keith, unfortunately. well isn't that what's his face the one that you have right next to you Iron Maiden I believe that is Archer it was an Archer pin that was not a ton of software was actually done for it but the design was finalized and it was an Archer pin by Keith Elwin that's what got him hired into the industry also Ayla Lovely thank you so much for that follow welcome to the stream All right, we have one more set of questions, and then we're just going to have to wait for tomorrow to go through the number four over here. That was actually a lot. But we have four different streamers in here. What gear are you missing most from your stream right now? A capable PC with inputs. Okay, a capable PC with inputs. Okay. Surreal, what do you got? talent. He's got talent. Yes, he do. He's got talent. How about you? Joe, what are you missing right now? You know, I need to replace my graphics card. The one I have was top of the line in 2014, and that's the only reason it's still functional at all six years later. Wait, no. Eight? Oh my gosh. Has it been eight years with that video card? Whenever the 1080 Founders Edition came out from NVIDIA, which I think was 2014. Wow. Oh, my gosh. I've been saying six years, but, like, this pandemic really threw me for a loop. Yeah. I basically got the top-of-the-line graphics card that existed in the world at the time the day it launched. I got it. It was like a Father's Day present. And basically what a Father's Day present was at that point in my life is something that I pay for, but that I don't have to explain to my spouse. Like, I say, I'm thinking about getting myself this for Father's Day, and she would say, as long as you use your own money. And so, yeah, I got that. And I have since upgraded everything else about the computer except for the case. and I was like, well, eventually graphics cards are going to become more available and they're getting there, but I'm hoping sometime in the next three to six months to get a new graphics card. Okay, new graphics card. And I'm assuming three to six months, that puts you solidly into like the 3080 series or maybe the 3090. I mean, because I'm doing occasional VR streams, the 30... Well, two things. Because I'm doing occasional VR streams and because I want to be able to record and encode at 4K, even though most people aren't watching stuff at 4K now, I want to future-proof myself. Right. I want to be able to say, what if I'm still using the same graphics card in six years again? Because I bought my car in 2008, and I said, I'm going to get a Honda, because if I'm driving the same car in seven years, I want to have something that still runs and isn't in the shop all the time. And 2008 was 14 years ago now, George, and I'm still driving that same Honda. And I'm like, oh, thank God I didn't get an Audi. Yeah, no, you lucked out. Honda or Toyota, that's the only car that would still be driving right now. Exactly. And so, like, it's kind of one of those things where I want to be ready to do more than I'm doing now because the future will need more. But I also want to be comfortable enough if I'm stuck where I'm at for longer than I expect. Okay. So here's mine. This little box right here is the most amazing microphone set I've ever experienced. It's made by a company called Hollyland, and they do some really cool equipment. This box is a charging box for a transmitter and receiver base station and two modules. And this transceiver, it all auto-connects and handles itself. All I have to do is charge these devices and pull them out, and they immediately, now I have two different microphones. And now I'm talking into two different microphones, and there's no echo. It handles all of it perfectly. So what I'm missing is that they don't sell one of these that does four Bluetooth or rechargeable modules. So I can do a four-person stream. My issue is that when this happens, I have to put one of these microphones over here and I mic up myself. But I want to do four-person streams. It's just tough at this point because I can't put a standard mic here and then wire up individually people, two people, because then it creates an echo. I need them all to be connected to the same base module so that way the echo doesn't ever happen. And then I can have four people over. Otherwise, I need to move over to just a single microphone, but then as people walk away and go do other things, you lose their audio. And that's one of the reasons I have the dual boom mic set up that you saw at my place. Right. Because my girlfriend's an audio engineer, and she's like, okay, if you set this up here, point it at the player, and you set this up here and tell everybody who's not playing, stand here if you want to be heard. Walk away if you don't. That's a viable option. You can say, hey, if you go into the kitchen, you're not going to be picked up. And sometimes people need a break. That's fine, you know. Yeah. Because, yeah, I'm really looking forward to doing multiplayer streams with TNA in co-op mode. So my brother is actually going to be moving back to town this weekend. And so I'm hoping to have him on to do some streams with that. and that's going to be a real good time. George, have you ever contacted company support to see if they have a solution to handle that kind of scenario? Yes. Literally did that last night. Kind of. I went on to their Amazon reviews where people post questions and then Hollyland responds and after like 36 of those because they had something like 120 comments, they responded to somebody who posted a comment, what if you want four people? And evidently you can bind multiple transmitters to a single base station, even though it comes with two and it's all set up for two, you can add more. So I ordered more and I have a whole other box coming in with the hope that I can test it and confirm that this works at, uh, at TPF because we'll be streaming Friday and Saturday at the TPN booth at TPF. And hopefully it was all four people. Which, that's the hope. Because you can also return it if it doesn't seem to work for you. Exactly, yes. That's the great thing about Amazon. Amazon's like, what? You spend how much with us? We don't care. Return whatever you want to. 30 days? No biggie. Whatever. Return it. You don't even have to put it in a box. Just go to Kohl's down the street and drop it off at them. We'll figure it out. I absolutely love that. What was I going to say here? Also, we are at the end of the stream, and we have some amazing streamers with us tonight. I'm going to do some shout-outs, but we have iSkiDoo. Shout-out iSkiDoo. iSkiDoo, who is a wonderful streamer, streams pinball. Now, iSkiDoo, do you have a standard schedule for streaming that you try to adhere to? Because I think I find you most of the time while I'm working during the day. No, I'm very bad at that. Just do it when you feel like it. No standard schedule, but click the follow button, and you will not be disappointed. Awesome streams, very engaging streamer, and on top of that, has done some just awesome things with integration between redemptions and game-changing things. You can reverse IceSkidoo's flippers or turn on the lights on his Christmas tree behind him or give him a tilt. there's some really cool stuff Ice Ski-Doo has done so if you're not following Ice Ski-Doo please do. In addition there is a shout out which I can't spell Surreal underscore seven if you're not familiar with Surreal another awesome streamer has not streamed Pinball but does routinely stream Forza and Surreal what's the other game Overwatch Overwatch, yep. Yes. Awesome, engaging. And another person who, obviously, I mean, Surreal, you help out MPT3K, you help out me. Like, technically brilliant when it comes to software and third-party integrations between, like, redemptions and doing stuff. You also have, in my opinion, the greatest redemption I've ever seen with the Ghostbusters redemption, where it incorporates somebody clicking a button. There are things that change on the stream. There's the lights that change. There's sounds that change and the lights don't just change. It's not just simple, stupid things like where I turn things on and off. It's they fade in and out to re-stimulate the glowing aura that surrounds the refrigerator door that you can see glowing as Zool is trying to make its way through and attack Dana. So it's really cool, like, multi-level audience engagement and integration with lights and how things are set up and audio and everything. It's awesome. So if you haven't checked out Surreal, do that as well. And finally, Joe Hills. If you guys don't know Joe Hills, honestly, at this point, I'd be surprised. Joe Hills is legit a streamer. like pro level awesome does not only amazing Minecraft streams and is a part of the Hermitcraft community, which is huge, but also does some pinball streams and becoming more and more part of the pinball community in general has total nuclear annihilation right now. And is looking forward to Joe. What did you say you were trying to do some multi-person co-op streams? Yeah. Yeah. So like I said, my brother's moving back to town this weekend. And so we're going to be doing some co-op TNA streams, hopefully, in the near future. Awesome. So click the name for all three of these wonderful streamers. Click the follow buttons. And in addition, this is, sorry, with Joe Hills, as much as I enjoy the Minecraft stuff, it is the day craft, like, art stuff. Joe, you stream at, I'm guessing, you're in Eastern, no, you're in Central, Time Zone? Central. Central. So every Wednesday, when I get back from dropping my kid off at school, my friend Cleo and I will just do some painting or drawing and just chill. We've been friends for a decade now. It's just us arguing and talking while we just work with our hands. And it's a fun time. It's great. The conversation is awesome. It's engaging. You guys both have your own audiences, but you are both responding to everybody as they ask questions. You're doing cool things. It is fantastic. The Minecraft stuff is fantastic. And Hermitcraft in general is really cool. I only recently found out that every year you guys take a short break and then reset the world. And all of the people in Hermitcraft rebuild from the ground up new cool stuff in Hermitcraft. And I love it. I think that's great. That is really cool. Thank you. I'm loving this season. I've come up, you know, this season I already built Elvira's House of Horrors, just like the actual house from the pinball machine as a mansion in Minecraft. And I'm hoping to build, like, a giant-scale pinball machine over the course of the next, like, year and a half. And I've been brainstorming already, what should I do for next season, you know, a year and a half out? I'm kind of thinking maybe Dante's Inferno and Purgatorio, but I feel like it needs a twist. you know you can't just go into something like that head on because it gets a little bit too I don't know religious so you know I'll be workshopping that over the course of the next year and a half okay awesome you guys follow each of those people my name is George this show is Don't Panic Flip thank you so much for hanging out tonight let's go find someone to raid and we'll be back on tomorrow night with I think some Rush we gotta go back to Rush I have not played enough of it yet. Really looking forward to playing that again. The code on it we just upgraded yesterday. Lots of new things. So really excited to see what we can do with regards to points and progression in the game. Thank you so much and have an awesome Monday night. Thank you for joining me. Oh, hey, Corian, thank you so much for the follow. 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