# We are Pinball #1.1 and Kaneda hate from day one, give us a chance dude!

**Source:** We Are Pinball (WAP)  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2024-06-03  
**Duration:** 25m 49s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wap5/episodes/We-are-Pinball-1-1-and-Kaneda-hate-from-day-one--give-us-a-chance-dude-e2keoa6

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## Analysis

Genghis launches We Are Pinball (WAP), a new podcast and Facebook community with Don Garrison celebrating pinball culture and inclusivity. The episode addresses early criticism from Kaneda, detailing a complex interpersonal history of conflicts, apologies, and reconciliations, while establishing WAP's ethos of positivity and welcoming all pinball enthusiasts regardless of manufacturer preference.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] We Are Pinball Facebook group reached significant membership with media creators, collectors, and heavy hitters within 24 hours of launch — _Genghis opening remarks about group growth and composition_
- [HIGH] Kaneda criticized the new WAP podcast on his Saturday show within 24 hours of its announcement, suggesting people shouldn't listen due to Genghis and Don's distributor connections — _Genghis recounts Denmark wake-up and friend Chris telling him about Kaneda's comments_
- [HIGH] Genghis and Kaneda have a long history of conflict, apologies, reconciliation attempts, and repeated incidents where Kaneda shares confidential information on his show — _Detailed narrative of multiple apologies, blocked periods, and recent reconciliation three weeks prior_
- [HIGH] Kaneda blocked Genghis after WAP's first podcast episode released — _Genghis states 'he blocked me' and describes watching Kaneda's blocked content through viewer assistance_
- [HIGH] Genghis blocked Carrie Hardy three weeks prior due to extreme content involving guns and 'Hitler codes' — _Genghis explains blocking reasoning: 'extremist stuff,' guns, anger issues displayed in Carrie's videos_
- [HIGH] Kaneda accused Genghis of wearing branded merchandise (Flipping Out shirt, Don's t-shirt) as part of a campaign to promote specific people/manufacturers — _Genghis quotes Kaneda's accusations about merchandise and friendship alliances_
- [HIGH] Star Wars Pinball is 'a huge disappointment' and the biggest negative point for Genghis regarding Stern's current lineup — _Genghis statement: 'one of their games that they're selling is Star Wars and that's a huge disappointment'_
- [MEDIUM] Genghis and Don plan to establish episode cadence and guest policies after 5-10 episodes before opening WAP to media collaborators — _Genghis states they will regulate the show format and then invite guests, though hasn't discussed with Don yet_

### Notable Quotes

> "We're just celebrating we just came out with episode one don and i were happy it's one hour long show"
> — **Genghis**, ~3:00
> _Establishes WAP's inaugural episode details and collaborative spirit with Don Garrison_

> "If you don't enjoy pinball if you don't play pinball then what are you doing get yourself another hobby get the hell out of here right"
> — **Genghis**, ~2:30
> _Defines WAP's community boundary—exclusivity around pinball passion, not content quality gatekeeping_

> "I just want to be neutral and be a normal fan okay that what I want"
> — **Genghis**, ~18:00
> _Describes his attempt to reset relationship with Kaneda after repeated confidentiality breaches_

> "Star Wars and that's a huge disappointment That's my that's the biggest thing for me"
> — **Genghis**, ~51:00
> _Explicit negative assessment of Stern's Star Wars Pinball; signals openness to critical manufacturer commentary on WAP_

> "he blocked me this guy he he blocked me and he says our new show is and he's saying all of weird stuff about me"
> — **Genghis**, ~34:00
> _Marks escalation point where Kaneda blocks Genghis immediately after WAP launch_

> "Don is just, hey, man, it's all about you. Zach and I, we're talking. Zach knows you can't say to me, you shall not talk with this other guy."
> — **Genghis (quoting Don Garrison)**, ~38:00
> _Don's refusal to enforce exclusionary friendships; positions WAP as non-factional community_

> "This is pinball happiness And everybody that loves pinball Should absolutely join our Facebook group"
> — **Genghis**, ~57:00
> _Reiterates WAP's core positioning: inclusivity and positivity over divisiveness_

> "when he calls me he's so fun i mean i know he is this don't buy pinball he hates pinball Every manufacturer are idiots"
> — **Genghis (characterizing Kaneda)**, ~13:00
> _Characterizes Kaneda's critical position on pinball manufacturing and willingness to call out industry issues_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| We Are Pinball (WAP) | organization | New podcast and Facebook community co-founded by Genghis and Don Garrison launched within 24 hours of this episode, focused on celebrating pinball culture with inclusivity |
| Genghis | person | Co-host/co-founder of WAP podcast, pinball community personality, based in Denmark, addresses interpersonal conflicts and establishes community values |
| Don Garrison | person | Co-host of WAP, host of Don's Pinball Podcast, collaborator with Genghis on new community initiative; positioned as non-factional and welcoming |
| Kaneda | person | Independent pinball podcaster (Canada's Pinball Podcast/Saturday shows) with ~1,000 subscribers; history of conflicts with Genghis over confidentiality breaches and critical commentary; blocked Genghis after WAP launch |
| Carrie Hardy | person | Pinball content creator; blocked by Genghis three weeks prior for extreme content involving guns and 'Hitler codes' |
| Retro Ralph | person | YouTuber and pinball content creator who attended Stern factory tour; featured in opening segment of this episode |
| Zach Minney | person | Owner of Flippin' Out Pinball (million-dollar business per Genghis); sent merchandise to Genghis; resolved past tensions with Kaneda by ignoring drama |
| Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer; Genghis criticizes Star Wars title while praising most other Stern games; factory tour featured in episode opening |
| Star Wars Pinball | game | Stern Pinball's recently released game; explicitly criticized by Genghis as 'huge disappointment' and biggest negative regarding Stern's current lineup |
| Batman 66 | game | Stern Pinball title; Genghis critical of music but otherwise positive about game |
| Flipping Out Pinball | company | Company associated with Zach Minney; merchandise worn by Genghis, which Kaneda accused of being part of promotional campaign |
| Michael Bernard | person | Designer/artist assisting with WAP's professionally designed artwork and logo |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Community building and inclusivity in pinball, Interpersonal conflicts and reconciliation within pinball media ecosystem, Criticism of Kaneda's early negative commentary on WAP, Transparency vs. confidentiality in pinball friendships
- **Secondary:** Stern Pinball game quality and Star Wars disappointment, Merchandise sponsorships and perceived bias/factionalism, Distributor relationships and potential conflicts of interest, Negative vs. positive community discourse in pinball

### Sentiment

**Mixed** (0.55) — Predominantly positive about WAP's launch and pinball community spirit, but substantial portion addresses hurt feelings, conflict, and defensive responses to Kaneda's criticism. Genghis oscillates between celebration of new community and frustration with perceived unfairness. Ends on positive note reaffirming inclusivity.

### Signals

- **[business_signal]** Pinball media fragmentation evident: multiple podcasts/communities (WAP, Don's, Kaneda's, etc.) competing for audience; tensions over distributor relationships, sponsorships, and perceived conflicts of interest (confidence: medium) — Kaneda accused Genghis of wearing branded merchandise as campaign; Genghis defends supporting friends' businesses (Zach Minney, Flipping Out); tension over exclusive loyalty expectations
- **[community_signal]** Kaneda publicly criticized WAP on his Saturday show within 24 hours of launch, questioning credibility based on distributor relationships; relationship escalated to mutual blocking (confidence: high) — Genghis describes Kaneda jumping into show saying 'just because we have distro friends just because we love pinball this much...people shouldn't listen to our show' and 'he blocked me'
- **[event_signal]** We Are Pinball podcast and Facebook community launched with collaborative co-hosts, strong early membership engagement from media, collectors, and enthusiasts within 24 hours (confidence: high) — Genghis: 'we just came out with episode one don and i were happy it's one hour long show' and 'under 24 hours we have got heavy hitters in there we have got media content creators'
- **[sentiment_shift]** WAP positions itself as inclusive, anti-negativity community welcoming all pinball enthusiasts and media collaborators regardless of manufacturer preference or personal relationships (confidence: high) — Genghis: 'If you love this hobby just like I do...come on in and join. It's so much fun' and 'This is not Don and I's Podcast page No this is WAP Everybody is welcome'
- **[design_philosophy]** Genghis explicitly criticizes Star Wars Pinball as 'huge disappointment'—the biggest negative regarding Stern's current game lineup, despite positive sentiment toward most other Stern titles (confidence: high) — Genghis: 'For me one of their games that they're selling is Star Wars and that's a huge disappointment That's my that's the biggest thing for me'
- **[community_signal]** Genghis establishes complex, volatile friendship with Kaneda characterized by repeated apologies, reconciliations, confidentiality breaches, and interpersonal tension spanning years (confidence: high) — Narrative of multiple blocking/unblocking cycles, Kaneda sharing private conversations on broadcasts, Genghis setting boundaries three weeks prior, then Kaneda blocking after WAP launch
- **[community_signal]** Genghis addresses strategic positioning of WAP as non-factional alternative to existing pinball media, explicitly welcoming critical voices while rejecting hate/negativity (confidence: high) — Genghis: 'I love Stern machines, but...Star Wars...is a huge disappointment' and 'be a man when you're talking about this hobby and say what is what'

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## Transcript

 what up everybody WAP is up we are pinball is up and I'm just so happy we are making this new podcast together with my great friend Don from Don's pinball podcast Don Garrison and we're just having fun it's all about pinball fun pinball happiness we're just enjoying this and about 24 hours ago we made this Facebook group and if you're on Facebook if you're watching this video come on in and join what i mean we're just going to celebrate pinball we're going to enjoy pinball and already under 24 hours we have got heavy hitters in there we have got media content creators we have got other groups sites we have got people with great great collections and they're all welcome it's people that just loves pinball my crew they're gonna hear it here don's crew is gonna hear it on his next podcast and we're just gonna assemble this facebook group it's not about our podcast show no it's about wop it's just we're pinball we're just we're happy we're celebrating we're just enjoying pinball if you don't enjoy pinball if you don't play pinball then what are you doing get yourself another hobby get the hell out of here right we're just having fun we're just enjoying this through this hobby through this page i came across about this guy who's called retro ralph his video is running here on the background he jumped into our page i saw his first video on on on his youtube channel i shared this video it's awesome video go and check out retro ralph you can see his he was one of the guys that got invited to stern to you know stern tour really what a great tour this video shows everything how happy everybody is it's just this gigantic stern factory gigafactory making us these awesome awesome give look look at all the assembly look look at everything it's it's it's pure awesomeness so ratch ralph thank you for letting me use your video here on the background so i'm not that kind of guy that oh he's a youtuber i'm a youtuber i don't want to promote his stuff no i'm i'm like this watch all the content you want to and uh everybody is just welcome we're just one big family no hating no nothing i'm loving this so after watching this go and jump into our page it's called we are pinball or wop where is wop you know how it is and we're just we're just celebrating we just came out with episode one don and i were happy it's one hour long show and i think my mic didn't like the show the first two three minutes it has some glitches stuff i just ordered a boom sticks stuff a new mic and i'm gonna get it in three or four days so and then we're gonna jump into episode two i hope you went and then checked out episode one already i'm gonna link it on the description down below i'm gonna link our youtube channel on the description down below so it's all about happiness it's all about if you enjoy pinball come and be a part of it If you're one of those, it does not have no gone ahead, stern, then go into other groups. Then just go into other groups and do your hate, do your negativity, do your whatever you want to do. No one cares. Okay, but if you love this hobby just like I do, just like Don does, come on in and join. It's so much fun. We have so much in us. Don is a podcaster. He's also a YouTuber. And I have got this YouTube channel. But it's just not enough. We want to do more. We have so much pinball passion in us. We just can't get enough of this. It's a beautiful hobby. And I'm really blessed to be a part of this whole pinball thing. Now, that's the first part of this video. The second part is not this happy happy joy joy because it's morning in Denmark. Good morning It's Sunday morning in Denmark and I'm just I just woke up and I a Friend of mine which is called Chris colors that makes Canada's pinball podcast and he makes these Saturday Saturday Facebook shows I Don't really have time to watch them every Saturday, but sometimes I watch it Monday Tuesday, whatever whatever whatever right so this morning people are writing to me retro check this out check this out check this out he's talking about you he is all over the place again and i'm like what's going on again so apparently he we just one day ago we made this warp and canada just jumps in on his show and he says that just because we have distro friends just because we love pinball this much just because my brother is a distro or don is friends at distro just because of that people shouldn't listen to our show we just launched it's under 24 hours ago and he's smashing our show come on man what's going on i mean why why so much hate just just why i have been friend with canada for some time some years and uh all of a sudden he was like i love you jengis but if you jengis i love you jengis but if you jengis if you jengis if you jengis and i love you jengis but if you jengis he He was like on one of his very very late night shows and I was like people just contacted me Canadians going to Canada and I jumped in and he was just all over the place F you Cengiz but I love you man i love your brother but if you i was like dude go away okay so i blocked him and after his 50 apologies and videos all sort of stuff i said to myself okay it's time to forgive this guy everybody can make a a mistake so i jumped in without telling anything to anyone i just jumped into canada's Saturday and I jumped in and I said dude okay it's okay I accept your apology and let's just be neutral and that that's it I don't want no beef I don't want no beef with anyone okay so we just started talking and Kaneda is um I mean he has like thousand subscribers or whatever and he is a he is what he is and people that listens to his shows they they they know what to expect okay and i have nothing against it okay nothing against canada no nothing it's okay and um if you think canada is canada when you listen to his shows then you're off you need to talk with this guy when you talk with him he is something else i mean this guy doesn't sleep he wakes up three o'clock in the night he calls me up it's midday for me i'm having dinner I'm having fun and Kaneda hits me up. I'm like hello. What's up? And he's like, oh shit Did you hear this and he just oh my god, I'm getting so much Ah, I I will I will never share anything of anything from who no one I'm not that kind of guy Everything you and I talk about is between you and I and that's it. But he oh if He made his show just like he was talking with me oh my god he will have 10 000 subscribers he's such a fun guy to talk with i mean yeah but the thing is after i forgave him so being friend with canada it's cool nothing there but sometimes he does this dumb stuff he just can't control himself and it's it's okay but it irritates me and when he does it when i share something with him he can't keep his mouth shut when i something something he just it irritates me and i and i hit him up i said chris this is not cool and he's like i'm so sorry i'll never do that again and it's okay and then it happens again and after i mean this is not every day it when we a month between something and he does this and after some time i began saying to him chris i'm looking forward to when i'm going to say sorry i did this and this i mean just think a bit okay i can't share everything i don't want to share everything but there's just some stuff he does that irritates me but there's also some stuff that is just when he calls me he's so fun i mean i know he is this don't buy pinball he hates pinball Every manufacturer are idiots And what does he say Everything just He's like that but he's also a very very Fun guy oh my god when he goes Into 80s movies 90s movies I am having I'm enjoying our conversations With Chris okay he can just He makes me laugh okay He's a fun guy very fun Guy you're a fun guy What do you mean funny funny like Clown fun do I amuse you fun all right all right all right so what happened guy what happened you guys are hitting me up i i need to just answer you all back so three weeks ago something about his carry hardy had all the he's gone stuff craziness and i blocked carry okay it was his thing and let him do whatever he wants gone and he thinks he's John Wick and more power to him it's okay so he did that I didn't watch it and Chris was like dude check this out he's getting going all war on you you have to check out what he's done he has done he has he stole your content he is using Hitler codes he's just ding dong how people are writing on Carrie's videos you have Carrie you have anger issues and you wave around with guns that's a no go for me I'm gone I mean that that extremist stuff just it's too much for me some people likes it more power to them a Kerry likes gone more power to him we're just too different so I blocked Kerry and I wish him and his kids everybody around Kerry his YouTube channel I wish him the best I have nothing against him we're just too different you and I so carry on me we're not in contact anymore it's and it's okay I think Kerry's all fine with that cool the thing is I'm having this personal talk with Chris and then Chris go Canada goes live and he's like what Kerry did with Hitler cause it was really funny and he was laughing about this guy says something to me that he was laughing about that just hit me you you're not friends don't in where i'm from friends friends don't not do that okay so this is one of what's his name canada stuff again and i was like i need some time from this guy again and i i was like i don't like you doing this it really hurts so he was like i'm sorry man again he was sorry and it just irritated me it was too much for me and i and i wrote to chris about three weeks ago chris you and i are friends but i don't want to share anything with you so this is my way to say you know keep your distance right just I just want to be neutral and be a normal fan okay that what I want and all write best wishes with the baby he just got his baby he was sending me picture from the hospital and brenda and the new baby i congratulations i love all this stuff and then i just end by saying please don't use more time on this We just think and feel different Happy visiting Why did I write happy visiting? Oh, he was visiting his mom Alright, that was it That was it I mean, this is the best way to say Keep your distance in a friendly, respectful way We're still friends But I don't want to be close to you That's it And then we were talking about some pinball and then he sent me some cute cute pictures of his baby and more but brand the hospital and then we just stopped riding cool yesterday he went on his life guys he blocked me this guy he he blocked me and he says our new show is and he's saying all of weird stuff about me nothing bad happened there is nothing bad from me to chris the only thing that has happened since the three weeks that we didn't speak but i was still on his page i was still writing there were no negativity no nothing okay then i made the show with dawn that was it and he said i mean he blocked me i can't watch it but one of you guys you made sure i could watch his stuff thank you i mean no i mean uh pay pay him patreon don't cheat don't cheat okay so i'll watch this and he's like what was it man uh chris is like james and i were friends and then he goes out on this campaign takes on a shirt that says flipping out it's a new game release and i'm gonna speak about the new game most of my viewers are american viewers and i want to support my friend zach many that has sent me some merc i'm gonna wear his Merc I want people to buy from him support each other nothing bad in that I have done it before it has got nothing to do with the campaign what the what also he says I'm wearing Don's t-shirt because him and Don are not good friends because he said Monica should wear a leash and stuff like that nothing to do with me I said to Don Don, you and I were friends, but I also want to talk with Chris. You and Chris are not friends. And Don is just, hey, man, it's all about you. Zach and I, we're talking. Zach knows you can't say to me, you shall not talk with this other guy. No, it's okay. I was talking with Zach. I think it was about last year because Zach and Kaneda had some stuff. And I said to Zach, Zach, you're running this million dollar business. Don't be a part of this. Ignore Chris. And you know what? Zach made the best choice. He just completely ignored it. He's selling pinball games. He's giving great service. He's a nice friend and we're having fun. Pinball fun. Man, he just made this LE video of John Wick. It looks so nice. Okay, so just to round everything up There is no campaign There is no the earth is flat There is just nothing So please, everybody When you write to me I have no... I want Chris the best Oh, he just got another baby boy I just want his whole family the best And he ends his video by saying I should call him up And say I'm sorry Oh my god So I should call him and say Sorry for Sorry for what? Sorry for wearing a t-shirt Oh but come on Chris If you don't Act negative You're also welcome to WAP Come on join Be a part of this family No one cares Okay No one cares If you wanna hate Hate on your page if you want to block me block me i buddy i can't do anything about it but i don't have an agenda or all that stuff when you say stuff about me it gets amplified and gets sent to me just real the hell x you have so many frenemies you have so many people calling you schizo narcissist i'm not one of them i don't care do what you wanna do and if you're positive come and join whoop peace love and harmony nothing else have a great day have a great day and i'll see everybody on our new facebook group and it's so cool man come in and join all right just let let me just add something more this page has been up for a day now we have Released the first podcast show for now and as you can see my dear friend Don made this WAP it says we are pinball WAP and I think about next week. We will have a Professionally designed artwork. I think he is getting help from Michael Barnard. It's so cool. I'm so sorry So I think in a week we will have really nice logo I think in a week we will have great intro music and I think in a week we will make the next part of our podcast the thing I want to add at the end of this show is already as I said earlier people are joining the Facebook group people are writing to us you guys are absolutely amazing and already people has been writing to me I haven even talked to Don about this people people have been writing to me retro this is so cool we can just feel the pinball love in you we want to join the show so already after show number one other pinball media people wants to join now as i said to most of you absolutely anyone that wants to join this are welcome and between you and i i haven't even ask Don about it yet but if I know Don when I talk to him I say Don this person wants to join he will say heck yeah I'm all about it come on in and join be a part of this so guys the thing I have said to a couple of people that asked and the thing I want to say here is everybody's welcome If you have pinball love in you if you really have interest in this Lovely hobby of ours if you really want to enjoy this I'm not talking about shill or haters because I love pinball machines. I love let's say Stern machines, but For me one of their games that they're selling is Star Wars and that's a huge disappointment That's my that's the biggest thing for me, and it's a huge disappointment disappointment and I'm honest I just say it as it is it's such a huge disappointment I just don't like that game and it's still on the line they're still selling it I just don't like it and I can say it that way and other than that Batman 66 I don't like the music but all the other Stern games oh my god I love them you are welcome to come on in and join and be a man when you're talking about this hobby and say what is what if you just want to join here and just destroy all the companies all the pinball machines everything is bad everything is shit then do it on other shows everything else is welcome so i say and i probably know when i don will say let us first make a couple of episodes don and i so we will find out how often do we do this how long should every episode be how much stuff should we put in there you know regulated have five ten shows and after that you guys are welcome to contact us you guys are welcome to join And I'm saying not even pinball media Because already On this We Are Pinball page We have some amazing collectors That are sharing pictures Of their game rooms Videos of their pinball machines It's so fun because as I said earlier This is not Don and I's Podcast page No this is WAP Everybody is welcome If you love this hobby Comment and join Be a part of this share it spread the love and let's just enjoy this no hate no negativity give us five to ten episodes and we will say yes thanks to guests i haven't spoken with don about this i'm sure he got some messages also everything is just so new for us but everybody for early achievers early join us for the page welcome guys just go on in and look at those names we know all those names it's great great guys and it's all new i think in a month this page will be awesome if you want to sell your mods here you can do that if you want to talk about their polls already people are saying i'm thinking about buying this game this game what do you think that game everything is welcome the only thing i don't want and don dot doesn't want either here is hate and negativity there are so many other places i'm not talking about being real i'm not i'm just talking about negativity attacks more negativity and people that are in a hole they will grab and pull people other people down in that hole being more and more negative i have studied a lot of psychology and i have just learned i'm an old guy now i have learned negativity just let it go Some people get drawn with negative stuff Some people get energy by negativity Let them do that This is pinball happiness And everybody that loves pinball Should absolutely join our Facebook group Wow, we are pinball Now this time, have a great day ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ Thank you.

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