# S332: JustAnotherPinballStream BATTLE on TMNT **Source:** Don't Panic Flip **Type:** video **Published:** 2020-09-09 **Duration:** 136m 2s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KveK73fiJpw --- ## Analysis George (Don't Panic Flip) and Joel (Just Another Pinball Podcast/Stream) conduct a seven-battle competitive stream on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Stern pinball. They discuss the game's design, co-op mode, rules mechanics, and Joel's background in the printing industry. The stream showcases advanced streaming setup using Desk Camera software for synchronized dual-playfield display and high-quality video compression. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] Joel has a master's degree in technical printing from Clemson University and works in software support for printing equipment — _Joel directly states his educational background and current employment in the printing industry_ - [HIGH] Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Stern has co-op mode, which Joel values for bringing friends and family into pinball — _Joel explicitly states TMNT 'actually has co-op mode' and discusses this as a game-changer for multiplayer appeal_ - [HIGH] Total Nuclear Annihilation was designed by a single person (Matt Scott Densey) who did the software, layout, and music but not the art — _Joel states 'Matt Scott Densey. The fact that he literally did everything but the art. I mean, he did everything in that game, which is insane.'_ - [MEDIUM] Total Nuclear Annihilation was the first pinball game to feature co-op mode — _Joel states 'that was the first game to have co-op mode. So that was huge for me to try to get friends and family into pinball.'_ - [HIGH] The streaming setup uses Desk Camera software with a temporary inexpensive license to achieve low-latency, high-quality dual streams — _George explains: 'now with Desk Camera, for a very inexpensive temporary license, we can set up something like this and have really low latency, ultra-high quality dual streams'_ - [HIGH] TMNT Stern's playfield print quality shows visible vertical lines that are a notable cosmetic feature — _Joel and George both reference vertical lines visible on the playfield print and discuss print quality variations between machines_ - [HIGH] Pizza multiball (Ninja Pizza Parlor multiball) on TMNT requires three shots under the van to start — _Joel clarifies: 'Pizza multiball is three shots under the van'_ - [HIGH] Completing level three of training on TMNT requires hitting the lair shot twice and completing two hurry-up sequences on the right and left ramps — _Joel explains the training mechanic in detail during gameplay walkthrough_ - [HIGH] Joel previously owned and later repurchased Total Nuclear Annihilation after initially selling it for The Hobbit — _Joel recounts his ownership history: 'I had The Hobbit...I ended up selling The Hobbit way later and later on buying back Total Nuclear Annihilation'_ - [HIGH] Joel drinks a locally-brewed non-alcoholic scoop Arnold Palmer (sweet tea based) rather than alcohol due to body size and consumption concerns — _Joel explains his beverage choice and reasoning when asked what he's drinking_ ### Notable Quotes > "when I got into pinball, I was just like, well, if I'm only going to have one machine. And so I started doing my research, and it's like, well, if I'm only going to have one, what would I want? And the first thing I searched was if there was a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles machine" > — **Joel**, ~2:00 > _Establishes Joel's motivation for buying TMNT Stern and his initial search that led him to Data East TMNT_ > "I knew I'd buy it, sight unseen kind of thing, which is really dumb, but now that I've seen it and played it, I'm very happy with it. There's a lot here. The shots are fun. I'm excited to play this for a long time." > — **Joel**, ~2:30 > _Positive endorsement of TMNT Stern game design and shot variety_ > "Total Nuclear Annihilation maybe up there is one of my favorite games... It is such a good game." > — **George**, ~8:00 > _Expresses strong appreciation for Total Nuclear Annihilation's design_ > "The fact that he literally did everything but the art. I mean, he did everything in that game, which is insane." > — **Joel**, ~8:30 > _Highlights Matt Scott Densey's solo design achievement on Total Nuclear Annihilation homebrew_ > "that was the first game to have co-op mode. So that was huge for me to try to get friends and family into pinball. It was just like, well, let's play this game and let's play it together instead of against each other. And that was a game changer for sure." > — **Joel**, ~9:00 > _Explains co-op mode's importance for community engagement and TMNT's appeal to casual players_ > "for a very inexpensive temporary license, we can set up something like this and have really low latency, ultra-high quality dual streams where we can bring multiple people on" > — **George**, ~50:00 > _Technical detail on streaming innovation enabling high-quality dual-playfield broadcasts_ > "There is no software out there to handle that for us right now. So until somebody writes that software or one of us on the Discord gets really bored and writes it ourselves, we're stuck having to do some really interesting things to time up all the different displays" > — **George**, ~51:00 > _Identifies gap in streaming software for synchronized multi-camera pinball broadcasts_ > "I held up a phone with a time and he compared it to his, and it was a lot of delaying and syncing" > — **Joel**, ~52:00 > _Describes manual latency synchronization process for dual-stream setup_ > "I'm very, very happy with it... there to be a modern version with Zombie Eddie art, I don't know. I knew I'd buy it, sight unseen kind of thing" > — **Joel**, ~2:00 > _Acknowledges Zombie Eddie's art direction as significant draw for TMNT Stern_ > "You don't realize how much it adds to the game until it's quiet." > — **George**, ~25:00 > _Comments on TMNT's soundtrack quality and its impact on gameplay experience_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | George | person | Host of Don't Panic Flip stream, pinball content creator and commentator | | Joel | person | Co-host of Just Another Pinball Podcast and Just Another Pinball Stream, printing industry professional with master's degree in technical printing from Clemson | | Matt Scott Densey | person | Designer and programmer of Total Nuclear Annihilation homebrew pinball, solo creator of software, layout, and music | | Zombie Eddie | person | Artist credited for TMNT Stern playfield artwork | | Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Stern) | game | Modern pinball machine by Stern, features Zombie Eddie art, co-op mode, multiple turtles (Leo, Raphael, Donatello), pizza multiball, training modes | | Total Nuclear Annihilation | game | Homebrew pinball machine, first game with co-op mode, designed by single person Matt Scott Densey, both Joel and George cite as favorite or near-favorite game | | Data East Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles | game | Vintage TMNT pinball machine that Joel initially found through research but chose not to purchase | | The Hobbit | game | Pinball machine that Joel owned for a period before selling it and returning to Total Nuclear Annihilation | | Deadpool | game | Pinball machine referenced for roaming red shots mechanic similar to TMNT mode design | | Don't Panic Flip | organization | YouTube/Twitch stream hosted by George featuring pinball battles and content | | Just Another Pinball Podcast | organization | Podcast co-hosted by Joel discussing pinball topics | | Just Another Pinball Stream | organization | Stream co-hosted by Joel featuring pinball content | | Flipstream | person | Streaming technical consultant who helped design dual-stream layout using xsplit, resides in Austin TX area | | Clemson University | organization | Institution where Joel completed master's degree in technical printing | | Desk Camera | product | Software solution used for low-latency, high-quality dual-playfield streaming with inexpensive temporary licensing | | Button Brigade | person | Stream viewer and subscriber who redeemed pull-up alerts and provided chat engagement | | Fliptronic | person | Stream viewer located in Texas during hurricane weather event, provided technical feedback on audio/video sync | | Dakota Mike | person | Stream viewer and acquaintance of George, won matching turtle banner | | Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 | person | Content creator who pioneered dual-pinball battle stream layout with Flipstream, influenced Don't Panic Flip stream setup | | Pinsomniac | person | Pinball player who taught George backflip technique on TMNT | | Stern Pinball | company | Manufacturer of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles pinball machine | | Bowen Kerins | person | Referenced in KB as pinball content creator and rules designer at Barrels of Fun (mentioned in context but not spoken of in this content) | ### Topics - **Primary:** Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Stern pinball machine design and mechanics, Streaming technology and dual-playfield broadcast setup, Total Nuclear Annihilation homebrew pinball - **Secondary:** Co-op mode in pinball games and community engagement, Playfield print quality and manufacturing cosmetics, Competitive pinball battles and tournament formats, Pinball soundtrack and audio design - **Mentioned:** Printing industry expertise and technical knowledge application to pinball ### Sentiment **Positive** (0.82) — Hosts express strong enthusiasm for TMNT Stern, highlight positive aspects of game design (shots, modes, co-op), and celebrate technical streaming achievement. Frustrations during gameplay are lighthearted and competitive in nature. No negative commentary about manufacturers, games, or community. ### Signals - **[community_signal]** Live streaming with interactive chat engagement including subscriber redemptions, emotes, and viewer participation in real-time commentary (confidence: high) — Multiple chat interactions: Button Brigade redemptions, Fliptronic technical feedback, viewer emote usage, subscriptions with Twitch Prime, chat-nominated clip creation - **[community_signal]** Don't Panic Flip conducting organized competitive battles with structured objectives (high score, multiball races, mode completion, wizard mode) demonstrating tournament-style content engagement (confidence: high) — Seven-battle format with specific win conditions: high score game, first to pizza multiball, first to complete training level 3, first to team-up, most complete modes, one-ball high score, wizard mode high score - **[community_signal]** Dual-content creator collaboration (Just Another Pinball Podcast/Stream hosting battle on Don't Panic Flip stream) demonstrating tight integration and mutual support within pinball streaming community (confidence: high) — Joel co-hosts Just Another Pinball Podcast and Stream; participates as featured guest in structured competitive event on George's platform - **[design_philosophy]** TMNT's van shot mechanics exhibit apparent inconsistent ball tracking behavior (rattle effect, multiple rejections) that players perceive as design flaw rather than feature (confidence: medium) — Joel and George repeatedly reference ball rattling around van area after lock attempts, with Joel stating 'I feel like that's a design flaw' regarding three-ball rejection in multiball stacking - **[design_philosophy]** TMNT Stern featuring roaming red shots mechanic (similar to Deadpool's Megalodon mode) with well-coded mode sequences and visual feedback (green/red flashing), indicating intentional shot progression design (confidence: high) — Joel praises mode coding quality: 'there's roaming red shots...I just think it's coded really well' and describes visual feedback system for hurry-ups - **[event_signal]** Structured pinball streaming event featuring organized battle format with six preliminary battles and wizard mode final, demonstrating professionalized content structure (confidence: high) — Seven pre-announced battle objectives with specific win conditions, backup scoring methods, and wizard mode championship round - **[market_signal]** Total Nuclear Annihilation homebrew maintains strong community appreciation and collector interest despite lack of commercial manufacturing, with both major content creators identifying it as favorite/top-tier game (confidence: medium) — George: 'Total Nuclear Annihilation maybe up there is one of my favorite games'; Joel repurchased after selling; both discuss its design quality and co-op innovation - **[community_signal]** Joel's background in printing industry (master's degree in technical printing from Clemson, software support experience) directly influences his ability to critique playfield print quality with technical authority (confidence: high) — Joel leverages printing expertise to evaluate TMNT's print quality: 'I'm quite familiar with all the different printing processes' and provides technical analysis of print variations - **[product_concern]** TMNT Stern shows visible manufacturing variance in playfield print quality between units, with vertical lines visible on print and brightness variations between machines (confidence: medium) — George and Joel discuss print quality variations: 'I think George beat me there' on print quality; George adjusts Joel's playfield brightness saying 'your playfield looks a little dark again' - **[technology_signal]** Innovation in dual-playfield streaming: Desk Camera software enabling synchronized, low-latency, high-quality multi-camera pinball broadcasts without traditional streaming limitations (confidence: high) — George explains Desk Camera provides 'very inexpensive temporary license' for 'really low latency, ultra-high quality dual streams' and allows dynamic camera positioning unavailable through Nginx or Zoom --- ## Transcript 🎵 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome, everybody. My name is George. This show is Don't Panic Flip, and tonight we have... Oh man, I don't have a cool hat. We have a very special, fun battle. This is Joel from both the podcast Just Another Pinball Podcast and the stream Just Another Pinball Stream. You guys obviously are super familiar with them. Hi, Joel. Hello, hello. How are you doing this evening? Oh, so good. Cool. And for anybody who is currently on right now, how does the sound sound? Quality is looking sharp, says Fliptronic. Awesome. Are voices and mouths syncing up okay? We spent a good amount of time on that. Yeah. Most people don't realize we're actually just 10 feet apart in the same garage. Like I could just walk over here. Yeah. Oh, George. Don't touch me there. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome Well tonight What game are we playing tonight Joel? Solitaire Solitaire, awesome Competitive Solitaire We're playing Turtles Pro Turtles Pro Now What's your thoughts on this game? I'm curious What's your overall on it so far? I mean I'm very I'm very very happy with it This is, I've said before, like when I got into pinball, I was just like, well, I only need one machine. And so I started doing my research, and it's like, well, if I'm only going to have one, what would I want? And the first thing I searched was if there was a Turtles machine and found that Data East one. And luckily I read some reviews and didn't go down that rabbit hole. So for now, for there to be a modern version with Zombie Eddie art, I don't know. I knew I'd buy it, sight unseen kind of thing, which is really dumb, but now that I've seen it and played it, I'm very happy with it. There's a lot here. The shots are fun. I'm excited to play this for a long time. Yes, I got very lucky. Fliptronic says, whoever has the better playfield print quality is the real winner. Yeah, I think George got me beat there. Let's just zoom in on that here really quick. yeah I'm not sure I think I saw your pictures and my print quality might be a little bit better than yours I think on both you can see the vertical lines that you pointed out which I thought by the way was the coolest part of that podcast specifically is that you spoke from a point of actual knowledge as opposed to just guessing or making stuff up Joel what do you do for a living Yeah, so I actually work in the printing industry. My undergrad was graphic design. My master's was technical printing. I got that down at Clemson in South Carolina. They have a whole print program. So I'm quite familiar with all the different printing processes. And I actually used to train hardware. So I'd travel out and teach people how to use the equipment that we sold. And then now I just do software support for the equipment. So I work from home, which is awesome. But, yeah, printing is, believe it or not, that's a skill I actually have. that is so freaking cool whoever has the rarest shirt on Hollywood star welcome to the stream whoever has maybe the rarest or maybe the raffinest you have an actual Teenage Mutant Ninja Shirt on yep that was one of those random Facebook ads that hit me the right way so and Lord Howard Hurd says oh asking if Fliptronic is safe out there I think Fliptronic is in Texas, a part of the hurricane issues that are going on right now. And Austin was far away from storms, so we're good. Awesome. That's really good to hear, Fliptronic. Okay, so I don't know if everyone is familiar with Teenage Mutant Ninja's Hurdles, but we have seven different battles planned for this evening. I'm going to switch over to that right now, and it would help if I had that. There we go. Yeah. Cool. So our first game that we're going to do is a high score game. This is standard. Extra balls are allowed, and it's whoever gets the highest score. Very, very simple. The second one is going to be to initiate pizza multiball, the first person to do that. And the third is going to be to complete the third level of training. Now, as we go over these briefly, if you're unfamiliar with it, some of this you may not have the context to make any sense of. but before we do each one of these kind of unique objectives, we'll go through and explain what you have to do in order to get there. Number four, we're going to see whoever initiates a team-up first. Number five, what was the thing? There was a chuckle there. Fliptronic, super high-tech graphics, and he uses it still. Man, you work with what works. and number five most complete modes meaning that you can get up to eight number seven one ball high score I really like that mode because anything can happen that objective and finally we are going to jump straight to the final battle wizard mode and whoever gets the highest score on that so are you ready I don't know is somebody taking bets are all bets in are we Button Brigade, by the way, thank you very much. My hat's off to you, those four bits. Thank you. And welcome, Button Brigade and Fliptronic and Flipstream and Lord Howard Hurts and Carrie Hardy, who thought the games looked good, but we were kind of mad. Lord Howard Hurts. You guys are genius. Yeah. George has an unfair advantage not having a tilt fob. Flipstream, that is excellent. There wasn't enough real estate to put the tilt fob in here, But I was thinking of you when I was checking to see if there was enough. Now, here's one. Whoever eats a slice of pizza and drink one can of beer while playing in high score mode. Okay. Yeah. One-handed. I already had pizza for dinner. I should have saved a slice. Yeah. Yeah. Eating food fast. I do well with that. So that would have been a category I probably could have won. What's going on? How are you guys doing? Good. Great. Grand. Fantastic. Don't panic. So you must be at least one of those things. George, a.k.a. Don't Panic Flip. You guys support him. I'm going to let that play. Cheers. Ninja dust. Button Brigade, you were amazing. My hat's off to you. Thank you so much. And Hollywood Star, enjoy that sub. Enjoy being a part of this wonderful community and also the emos all trigger sounds. So have fun with those emos. I am Carrie Davin it out. Thank you for demonstrating the sounds that we were just talking about. All right. Before we lose whatever we had coming into this, you want to jump in? You ready to go high score? Oh, yeah. Do you have any idea how you are planning to achieve a high score? The main tactic I typically try when playing pinball is just keep the ball out of the trough. Okay, good. Solid strategy. Yeah, I will probably go Raphael and just shoot for modes. Okay, you're going modes. I think I've got to go Donatello, so that way I can go directly into Turtle Power. Yeah, that's probably the smart move. MPT3K likes the layout. Thank you. I'm really happy with this. Definitely, by the way, it stole putting the two pinball tables in the middle right next to each other from Flipstream and MPT3K. who have been dueling, I feel like, every other Friday or every few Fridays, and have put together a heck of a battle-slash-dueling stream layout. I think Flipstream does it with XSplit. Ew. But he gets some really cool benefits. On dealing with all the crap of XSplit, you also get some cool things where you can shift the proportions of images and make it look like they're turning sideways. I know, mp3k. Ew. Who wants to do that? Also, notice the, by the way, if somebody does something, the alert happens on top of me, and the emotes show up on top of you. So the audience knows how to go about covering up either one of us. Awesome. Are you ready to go? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Also, this is high score, so it's not timed. We don't have to do the one, two, three, go. So I guess just start it. Try not to start a two-player game, which is surprisingly hard to do. And let's get her done. Sounds good. Now, I'm curious, Joel, what is your favorite pinball machine? Oh, that's probably TNA, to be honest. TNA is so great. It is such a good game. What's funny with TNA is I owned it for, there was a bar near us that had one. And what I found was any time that we'd go there in front of a family, that was the game we always ended up playing. So once I saw that, it was like, well, maybe that's the game that I should own kind of thing. And I owned it for two weeks and sold it. Because that was the only game I had, so I was playing the heck out of it. And I was like, man, if I had a game with more depth, if I had a longer playing game, I'd probably be happy. So I sold it for a Hobbit. I had Hobbit, which I loved, but I realized I'm not a fan of 45-minute long pinball games. So I ended up selling Hobbit way later and later on buying back TNA. And now, I don't know, I just have this brand new love and appreciation for it. It's weird. no no I don't think it's weird at all man I absolutely agree I think TNA maybe up there is one of my favorite games but maybe a better way to ask that question what's T oh yeah Hollywood Star it's Total Nuclear Annihilation which Midhart pointed out by the way Midhart welcome to the stream and yeah TNA for sure that's probably the last backhand I'm going to get in on this game Are you back into the left ramp? Yep, but just barely. That left flipper, as soon as it warms up, it can't hit that left ramp anymore. Awesome. Go right to defeat slash, which I think is the hardest of the modes. Already on ball three. Oh, wow. Yeah. I had one of those wonderful board drains on the left out line. All right, so what am I going for now? We're in a mode. Let's see if we can... Oh! I hate those rejects there. When you get two balls into the van, you can often get the third ball rejected. Yeah. I feel like that's a design flaw. look it up blends the best of 80 solid state games with today's game plus it has a kick butt soundtrack Midheart I couldn't agree more the soundtrack is amazing on top of that the story of how of how it was created that was a homebrew where one person did the software the layout the music all of it it's kind of a I don't want to say like a Cinderella story because that's just weak sauce It is a really cool story. Yeah, it's Scott Denisey, the fact that he literally did everything but the art. I mean, he did everything in that game, which is insane. Yeah, that game's, I don't know, there's just something about, oh, and then the other thing was co-op mode. Like, that was the first game to have co-op mode. So that was huge for me to try to get friends and family into pinball. was just like, well, let's play this game and let's play it together instead of against each other. And that was a game changer for sure. And so that's another great thing about Turtles is Turtles actually has co-op mode. I'll take that. Obviously, that's what I wanted to have happen there. How are you doing? You know, the ball is still in play. So I'm taking that as a good. I am still on ball one. I think I'm on ball one. I had a great time with ball one. You know, it just decided it had enough. And then ball two was a four got the left. The old interview question distraction strap for George to win. I've been caught. There's that. So now that I've completely wasted both of my multiballs, I'm focusing on modes. We have the music turned off, and it is so weird playing it without music. you say weird and I say less earworming I can't get enough I think the music that they wrote for this, I mean sure the main turtle song is earworming is kind but I don't know I really enjoyed the overall music of the game it adds It just adds, like, you don't realize how much it adds to the game. Not going to make it. Until it's quiet. Oh, speaking about that, I was supposed to turn on music, just to have something kind of quiet in the background. Let's see here. This is pretty cool. Mommasaurus, welcome to the stream. And, yeah, this is fun. Mommasaurus is my sister-in-law. Well, hello, Joel's sister-in-law, a.k.a. Mommasaurus. Michelle, she's currently the best teacher in Marion. Okay. Well, her kids are at home, so it's a new hat for her. Right, right. All right, what are we doing? Are we doing new metal, 90s music, or 80s music? Let's go 80s if it's the theme. 80s. It's specifically called the pinball playlist. Yes. And? Is it there? Yeah. Okay. We're doing the thing. 90s ska. Once again, flip screen. Action for 90s ska. Enjoy that. Here we go. Ball two. Man, you were still killing it on ball one over there, huh? I'm sorry, ball three. Yeah, yeah. Ball one had its time. All right, all right. We're on mode number three. Oh, I feel good. Yep. There's a lot of bonus in this game too. That was a bad move. Oh, you got a shoot again though, nice. I did, I got through two modes, but I should not have took it. That was very dumb. That felt good, man. That was three shots right in a row there to kill Shredder. Mode number three is dead. Got that extra ball. Starting to feel it. Yeah, ball three was probably the best ball for me. That was, you know, one was okay. Two was not nice. Three was good. Yeah, four does. This one, this is the second crane mode. And this is actually a really cool mode. Because there's roaming red shots. and that's what we're trying to hit. I don't know. I just think it's coded really well. Cool. I do like that, like from Deadpool, on the Megalodon mode, I really appreciate that. Yeah, it's similar. I'm not going to attempt it back in. You're trying to hit the red shot, but every... Oh, I just got bored. All right. So? What are you at? I'm at $150 million. $150 million. Yeah. I lied. I'm at like... I am at... Enough for a hard score for me. $10. $10. $10. $10.8. Yeah. Yeah. That's corner number three. All right. There it is. There it is. And start that mode. Nope. I meant hit that left ramp. Hit that. Oh, my gosh. Woo. I got to get this here. Start the mode. Got it. And is that a multiball? Please be a multiball. It was not a multiball. Ooh, if I could backhand that, that would be easy. Fine, we're going to go left orbit. Got it. Oh, tried for that loop pass on the other side. A little bit too much. Am I going to get it on bonus, maybe? Nope. 500,000. Have another drink. Ooh, good call, good call, good call. By the way, what are you drinking this evening, Joel? Oh, I'm drinking a locally brewed Diet Arnold Palmer. By locally brewed, I have no idea what this is. Okay. Diet Arnold, oh, yeah. I'm a, I like sweet tea. Diet light sweet tea, apparently. No, I typically am drinking soda or sweet tea. Okay. Sorry, so that was non-alcoholic? Did I hear that right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I enjoy alcohol, like, as a larger individual, the enjoyment of alcohol increases the more I consume. And I have to consume a lot. And so, it's just, uh, I think it's just a way to save that for weddings or large gatherings. I am trying so hard to hit this mini wizard mode and I cannot all of a sudden hit the left ramp. Oh, you got team up lit? Yeah. Alrighty boys, hope to see you guys duel for a bit. It's half my bedtime. Gary Hardy, it's awesome, man. Thanks for dropping in. Appreciate the content you make, man. Nope. Raining out on ball two there. Ugh. But I still have that lick, so I have that going for me. 9.6. I think you're better than this. Yeah, I think you're better than that. Is this ball three, though, for you, right? It is. Do you still have your extra ball? I do not. Oh. I cannot hit this left rim! Yeah. I love the GI. The fact that the GI's going nuts. And then this is one of those instances where the music is awesome. Yeah. Because it's very like, there you go. Nice dance. I'm at 10-1. You let me know. I'm 10-7, so you only have to hit a few shots. Well, never mind. This is a pretty low scoring game, so. Oh, you're at 14 already. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, cool. That was... Wow. So you're getting this... You're getting to this wizard mode, and you don't have to wait any shots to fly up and point. Yes. Okay. You're good. Nice job. All right. I'm going to say whatever that is. First one. First one. I have a phone to turn down the volume. Oh, I... I can barely hear it, so... Okay, good. Do not bother me. Billy Ocean. The music is helping increase viewership. Thank you, Hollywood Star. 80s music, man. You really can't complain. Let me switch over to the scores here. Ramrod, nice emotes there, man. I only have one emote because I have less than 15 subs, and he's got it on screen. Thank you, man. And what did I end up getting? 15. I'm just going to say 15. 1, 2, 3. 1, 2, 3. George. Nice. Take them by first one. All right, first to start, multiball. I have a feeling I'm losing pretty badly on this one. I don't know. It's a tough shot, the van shot. So just to clarify, it's pizza multiball. So there's turtle power multiball, which is four shots to the right ramp. Pizza multiball is three shots under the van. Right? Yes. Yeah. And so, yeah, if we would have done turtle power multiball, both of us would have just gone Donatello and hit one try. Right, right. So pizza multiball, or ninja pizza parlor multiball, first one to start it, right? So that would be, like, if it comes down to it, I guess as soon as you lock that third ball, it's good. You don't have to wait for the graphic to play. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. I'm not expecting it to be, like, within a millisecond of each other, but we could be wrong. Right. X, thank you very much. My hat's off to you. That is appreciated and welcome and Ramrod, welcome as well. Sub over there. Ooh, that emote looks very familiar. How do you relight pizza multiball? I think both your multiballs relight after you get through team up. Okay. Yeah, I think you have to go four modes, get through team up and then you can do both your multiballs again. So I'm going to count down And I'm going to use the Now infamous Manu countdown Feel the rhythm So it's kind of like 4, 3, 2, 1 And then we plunge Oh, I should probably hit start Feel Does it matter? Yeah, I do not want to start that So make sure you have the Turtle that you want Actually selected You good to go? I'm good Feel the rhythm, do the thing, eat the stuff, and here's your bling. First ball rock. I would love to get the ball under control here. Here we go. It was great. Oh, no. I just got, like, the rattle. I just drained my first ball. Oh, you got the rattle like a team out. He goes back there and just, like, rattles around. Come on. Wow. Yeah, this shot. What's going on? How are you guys doing? Good. Great. All two. Fantastic. Well, you're watching Don't Panic Clips. You must be at least. And it's raining. Why not? George, a.k.a. Don't Panic Clips. You guys support him. Thanks. I hope all three do. Why not? Cheers. All right. So how many balls do you have locked right now? Uh, you know? None. I haven't hit one yet. That's what I hit. I've had two. I just straight by second ball. There we go. Oh, I did it again. I hate that rattle. I swear that ball was turning the corner and then came back. There we go. There's one. Do not come out. There's one. I drained the second ball if that makes you feel better. I... AH! No! I started the wrong ball! Oh! No! No, no, no! I gotta let them all drain here. Drain... I'm gonna hold... Oh, I drained... Oh, thank goodness. No! This is so bad! That's two. I have two. I have two lock, and it hit the end. All right, so I am out of my multiball. Come on. One shot. Get in there. No. That's not good. Enough. Come on. Get to the right flipper for me, please. To the right flipper. Yes! Third one started. Nice job. I am not. Nice job. Oh, my gosh. If that first, one of those first two that rattled, I would have been in good shape. That was close. That was good. That was really good. Yeah. Man. Which side is the A6000, which is the CX405? Right. There are different, but one of us is streaming and compressing video and sitting halfway across the U.S. But if they look comparable, that really says a lot about the cameras and about the software we're using. That's camera. Speaking about that, your play field got a little dark again, so I just turned it up a hair. And Button Brigade just redeemed a pull-up. Thank you, Button Brigade. You're amazing. you. And what else did I miss here? Button, wait, what else did Button Brigade? For, Button Brigade subscribed three months using their Twitch Prime, Button Brigade. I did not, I didn't, I couldn't hear because I had the headphones on that that's what just happened. Alright, give me a second. Shall we remind you that Don't Panic Flip tends to celebrate every wood enormously? I'm very sorry ahead of time, Joel. apparently that is something I do and I sorry I could taste it I could taste that last ball Dakota Mike what up man good seeing you nice skirt thank you thank you we got our matching banners me and Dakota Mike oh cool you guys that's right you guys both won turtle banners uh huh and I know I happen to really like this shirt I'm wearing I'm doing it now just because it fits really nice. I'm doing my one pull up here. Thank you, Button Brigade. Appreciate the rooting Awesome So I going to switch over to the score Let get that entered And I just going to say three to two Yeah, it's just that. And next up is complete third level of training. Now, do you want to walk people through what they have to do here on the playfields? I'm going to switch us back over. Sure. So depending on who you start with, So if you start with anybody other than Leo to light training, the training shot is actually hitting, like you have to get under this flipper. So you lift the flipper up and you hit back in there. That's the layer. If you pick anybody but Leo, you have to light training first. And to light that, there's a big stand-up target, this layer stand-up target. You have to hit that four times. And I think that lights training. And then you hit it in there. I'm assuming both George and I will pick Leo. So Leo training is lit by default. so you would lift up the left flipper, and you're going to try to hit it in there. Once you're in training, there's going to be two shots, so you're going to end up hitting the right ramp first and then the left ramp, and the GI gets really cool. If you hit the right shot, everything flashes green. If you hit any other shot, it flashes red. So it's like you have to start the hurry up, complete the hurry up, but he's doing training level three, so that would get us to training level two, so then we have to do it all over again. So we have to hit the lair target, get back in there, and then do it again. So this is challenging. This is not an easy thing to do. It's not, which is why, if you go back to scores, you can see that, actually, I hit that column. But the backup, just in case neither one of us complete the third level of training, is based on score. Okay. So really, I should just not try for training at all and just focus on score. And hope that I don't get there? Yeah. No, no, no. I'll play the game. Dakota, Mike, thank you so much for the compliment. Just throwing it out there, Joel, myself, and then Flipstream jumped on to help out as well last night. But putting together this stream requires a lot of prep, right? And there's prep that Joel and I did, and then there was working with Desk Camera, which Flipstream did so much of the work of months ago and then wrote an amazing set of documents to walk others through how to do this, which is a great way to be able to switch between two scenes and change up where things are located. I'm going to give you an example, and it sucks that I didn't do this, but let's just look at Joel's play field and Joel, and then I'm over here on the side. You can't do that using Nginx because you're overlaying static displays, and if you're going to use something like Zoom, you lose out on so much quality, but what you get in return is synced audio to video. Thank you, Tom. What did I miss? He said, I must say, Joel's play field is better lit. Yeah, right. But that's the cool thing is now with desk camera for a very inexpensive temporary license, we can set up something like this and have really low latency, ultra high quality dual streams where we can bring multiple people on. The issue, and if you guys were on for our last dual stream where we brought in five different groups of people total, is figuring out that latency. There is no software out there to handle that for us right now. So until somebody writes that software or one of us on the Discord get really bored and write it ourselves, we're stuck having to do some really interesting things to time up all the different displays and get them to match so that way Joel and I are talking over one another and our mouths when they talk are still consistent with the audio. Yeah, basically we just stood here and did this for a while. I held up a phone with a time and he compared it to his and it was a lot of delaying and syncing and yeah, but it's really pretty cool now that it all works. And pinball princess Jillian, welcome to the stream. So, yeah, this is, it's fun, it's great. On top of that, Joel is really cool to chat with, so getting on late at night on Tuesday and Wednesday and then getting on an hour and a half before the stream today wasn't a problem at all. Yeah, I think we both talked through a lot of our emotional problems and it just grew as people. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I like that. My wife appreciates it, so. Yeah, there you go. This looks so baller. It really does. I'm loving the vertical displays for people as well. I think it works out really, really well specifically in this mode. You get to see everything plus a lot more of the people. Yeah, I've always felt that between my shoulder and belly buttons is probably my best feature, so I don't know why I've been cutting it off at the shoulders all this time. Not so much here or here, but right here. Things go wrong above the neck. And nobody wants to see below the waist. So just listen. If we could just focus on forearms, then I would be... Awesome. Okay, so this one is time. So we're going to want to do another countdown. Did you have anything in particular you wanted to attempt a countdown with, or should I pull another MPT3K countdown? No, you're good. Loves Chicken is a friend of mine, and he said seen it. Yeah, he's seen below my waist. Yeah. Awesome. All right, here we go. Shoot, I can't remember it. It's... Oh, I got to start a game. Yeah, I should probably do the same, and I should prep up Leonardo. There we go. I mean, you don't have to go, Leo, but, you know. Well, it lights... Are you telling me that I don't have to go, Leo? I mean, you do whatever you want, but... You do you. So do the thing, eat the stuff. Here's your bling. Something, something, something. Go. Okay. All right. That didn't work out well at all. But whatever. We got layer lit. We're working towards a goal here. So my goal right now is to try and get under this left flipper. It's a pretty difficult shot. I want to get the ball over to the right. Oh, boy. Wow. There it is. Now I'm going to take a stab. Oh, you go at it from the right flipper? Okay. Oh, my God. He is trying to kill me. Oh, work again. If we come down to score, this is not going to be good if this comes down to score. Are you on ball three? I'm on ball two. I'm on ball three already. Backflip or bust. I know. Backflip is cheesy Buddha saw it. I could do it last night. And it's you can. So, Tom, you can back flip it, not backhand it. That's a difference. Pinsomniac actually taught me how to backflip. We're going to hit it this time. Got it. Okay. Whoa, first training, but I haven't completed it yet. But second level. We need to get to level three. So I got to go right ramp first. Please don't drain. There's first. Oh, it sucks that if you start one, two, three, you can't hit train. That did not get there. Got the left ramp. We completed level two. All right, so now I have to hit the later shot to complete cleaning. I'm, uh... Yep. I'm done. I fumbled all the way through that one. Well, I don't have what you would call a good score. Check out this clip. No, you already got me. Oh. I do? Yeah. Ouch. Okay. Button Brigade clipping things here. This clip is called Between Shoulders and Belly Button. I can only imagine. I can only imagine. I'm assuming it's some high-quality pinball action. I would also agree that has everything to do with pinball. Yep. All right, so that has restarted the game. Let's flip over to scores here. And I'm going to throw it. I guess I got to second level first. I'm just going to say that. Oh, thank you. That was kind. Yeah, yeah. You start in level one. So I'll take it. You made it to the first level. Yeah. Okay, first to start mini wizard mode. All right. Do you want to walk us through what that entails? It's obvious I know. Yeah. That's one of those. I forgot. If you can't do, teach, right? So I know what to do. It's just communicating that in the machine, doing it is a different story. So the first mini wizard mode happens when you've completed four modes. So to start a mode, if you pick any other turtle but Raphael, to start a mode you have to hit both the right and the left ramp. You're going to see yellow arrows. So when you hit it, the yellow arrow goes out. So once you've hit the right ramp and the left ramp or the left and the right, it doesn't matter, then you hit under the van and you'll start a mode. And a mode in this game is called an episode, and that's where you're battling one of the villains. And those modes can time out, or you can complete them. It doesn't matter. But once you do one, then you have to hit the ramps again. Two, ramps again. Three, ramps again. Four. Once you've gone through four modes, then the first mini wizard mode, which is called Team Up, is lit. And it's lit on the left ramp, which is what George ran into in his first game. He was struggling to hit that shot. So when he hit that shot, that was the first mini wizard mode. If you pick Raphael, though, the episodes are lit automatically. So it just saves you from hitting the ramps, the left and right ramp, one time. So, yeah, I'm assuming we'll both pick. I don't know. I don't know what you'll pick. I'm assuming you'll pick Raphael, but you like your multiball. I do like my multiball, but I think I am going to go Raph just for the freebie because that's two shots I don't have to hit. And for starting the episode, you get a third... Oh, wow, the bug zapper's going crazy up there. For hitting and starting your first episode, you get one of your three shots towards Ninja, Pizza, Parlor, Multiball. Correct. I feel like it's more efficient that way, like less overall shots. Right, the van. The correct answer, by the way, is the van down by the river is what MPT3K says. And yes, I completely agree. It's never just the van. Also want to throw out here, keeping track of the episodes that you have lit, it's these seemingly random array of dots in the center of the play field, which I was literally showing, but my play field isn't being displayed. It is only your play field. It's these right here. Yes. And that's how you can keep track of your progress. You want to complete eight of those in order to, outside of this game, we want to complete four of them, and then, like you said, the left ramp lights for the mini-wizard mode. And once again, it's the first person to initiate, meaning you just have to hit that light. Yeah, hit the left ramp. And there's a cool little diverter stopper thing, and that'll come down and grab your ball and show you a cool animation. That's one thing this game does really well. There's multiple places that can stop your ball, and it forces you to see an animation. which some people may find annoying, but the reality is it's nice to have that little break, like that little moment. Hey, just another wife is on here. Yeah. Oh, Joel. Yeah, that would be my lovely bride. Okay. Welcome. Thank you, Nicole. I'm doing you proud, 0 and 3. That's great. Nah, it's good. It's fun regardless. Yeah, this is a great time. I like the colored mosquito. I don't think your Roboctopus could handle that one. I don't think it could handle that one either. If it doesn't know the color, it sets all the lights to white. It's very white in the air. Can you add custom colors? Can you add dead mosquito as a custom color? I can. I should totally put dead mosquito and make it some sort of a red-green-brown color combination that just loops endlessly. You just need to find a way that when the zapper goes off, your light flashes purple. and limitless technology all of the capability in the world to do what we want and what we want to do is integrate our bug zapper with our house lights like that is nobody's here to watch us play pinball they're really just looking at your back wall and waiting to see what color it's going to be awesome I'm going to switch this over here Guys, we have the playfields lit. Playfields lit. We have battle lit. Oh, wait. Before we go into this battle, do we want to break now and grab new beers or, for you, non-alcoholic beverages and do a TPN break? Or do you want to do that after this? I'm good either way. This is the, I don't know, I can't call it a tall boy, but it's a tall can. That is a very tall can. Okay. If you're dry, go for it. I'm dry. Guys, we're going to take a quick break. I want you to check out the Pinball Network. I hope you're familiar with it. If you're not, I already did my spiel where I tried to get everybody to drink the Kool-Aid. I'm not going to do that tonight. But we do have the cool new clips of the week that I want to show off right now. I'm going to mute us, you guys, and, yeah, fight big pinball, says Flip Street. We'll be right back. Thank you. I know at the end of the day everybody is only looking at that one. I mean I could just... if this is better... just no pinball. Can you get closer? Not to me. So we should just flex like this all the time? Is that the way to go? I can't zoom in. Awkward eye contact. Look at the camera. Just stroke it. You're weird man. I'm roller coaster breathing. You're what? Roller coaster breathing. It's a calming action. Roller coaster breathing. Roller coaster breathing. Roller coaster breathing. It's like a roller coaster. You don't breathe on roller coasters. It's a roller coaster on your fingers. You're supposed to be exhilarating. Roller coasters on your fingers. Why would you have a roller coaster on your fingers? It's for calming down five-year-olds. Fingers are for finging. I'm not calm. you breathe in and then you breathe out and then you just go roller coasters aren't supposed to be calming Jordan it's an exercise for children well why would you call it a roller coaster because your hands look like a roller coaster if you move up and down and up and down you're going to mess up those skills for life they're going to get on a roller coaster and be like this is supposed to be relaxing now and then they're going to pass out halfway on the roller coaster well the roller coasters are very stimulating on your vestibular system which is why you can get motion sickness and throw up everywhere you're a vestibular system box live catch so instead of catching it it pops back up and then you let it bounce over that's what you're saying? all right let's pay attention here let's keep going Woo, bin please clip, this monster illustrations. and jumps back over his nipple. I'm going to jump back over the flipper. For an edible? It's all in the reflexes. It's funny because through my hair, all I can see is like a big dinnium. You had it on your flipper. It's pathetic. Oh, did I? Yes. I didn't like hear anything. I was like, I was probably like slowly coming around. It was there. This would be called the hairball. Yes. That's great. That was really great. Hey, if you can't do it yourself... Happy birthday! Happy birthday! Happy birthday! Happy birthday! Happy birthday! Happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday. When you're closer to the grave, speak with all the food, say it's Happy's birthday, happy birthday. That's what we wanted to hit. Cool, cool, yep, I like five balls on one flipper, that's fine. I'm going to reach over here and grab a beer. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Pinball Network. It is a collection of content creators who are both Twitch streamers, podcasters, and they all do that, and YouTube. Okay, apparently I can't go through the schedule because I don't know what's happening there. but welcome back. Amen. Amen. I don't know if that got attached to the video and I just never watched the rest of the video or what. I was not expecting that. Oh, it is a part of the video? Oh. Flipstream says mics. Are we muted? We are not muted. We shouldn't be. He just said mics. Oh, yay hot mics. Yay, hot mics. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah. You're hot, I'm hot, and the mics are up. So, you know, that's universally okay. Sorry, and I totally spaced what is it we were supposed to be doing after this. I think we're playing more Turtles? That is yes, but sorry, I'm going to switch back over to the scores. Team up. Initiate team up. Okay, cool. So, switch it back over here. Last thing, what was it you were drinking again? Because I am drinking now a Guinness. Nice. Which happened to be at the bottom of the beer fridge. I'm drinking Arnold Palmer, half and half, iced tea lemonade, the diet version. It's real good. Does the diet version still have the insane amounts of caffeine that Arizona tea normally has in it? You know, I don't look at that, but it probably does. Because normally when I drink it during streams, it's like, all right, it's 1.30 in the morning, I should probably go to bed, and then that doesn't happen. And I also just saw Shake Well, which I don't think I've ever shook a can. So that's something. Wow, yeah. Becca thinks that Arnold Palmer's are the bomb. A, Flipper Snapper wants me to do the Cousin It challenge. That's not going to happen. I would have been able to do that back how long ago was that that was 15 or 16 years ago I used to have hair down to here but no I can't do that now I was telling George I grew my beard for a year and I could do kind of the backwards version of that so that was a long time ago you could be a lumberjack like that my wife My wife hated it. She hated it. Okay, cool. So Becca and Jordan are going to bring wigs, and we will do the Cousin It Challenge with wigs. Okay. The 90s was 30 years ago. Oh, okay. That was 2005, I think. When I started getting serious with my wife. That was 2004, 2005? when I have really long hair. So it has 15 years. I nailed it. Like, I was just a guess, but the math adds up. Does its thing. All right. Are you ready to attempt to get to a mini wizard mode? Yeah. Let's give that a go. Whew! All right, and this is a timed challenge, so feel the rhythm, do the thing, eat the stuff, and here's your blame. Got a ball locked and a mode started. How you doing? Same. Same for you. Same. You're up and rock steady there. I am on critter. Which is interesting. Like, should you even play with that? That's why I always say jump shot. I've never actually tried to time out a mode. I don't even know. Like, I know with Stranger Things, you cannot time out a mode. Like, you have to flip through it. You can't just cradle up and hope for the best. Incredible. Thank you very much for that follow. And welcome. Uncle Rich, welcome to the stream. All right, we're going to try this again. That was perfect. Obviously what I intended to do. Not doing that again. Left ramp. We've got that. So I don't really care about the foot at this point. I can time that out. Now I can hit the right ramp, and that should get me, that should finish lighting my episode. Hey, Rich, what's going on? How are you guys doing? Good? Great. Did you finish your episode? I drained the ball, which in turn finished it. George, did you episode it? That makes sense. Derry Vi, welcome to the stream, and thank you so much for that hub. My hat's off to you. And then I put that hat back on. Very cool. Just imagine it was as cool as it seemed in my head when I did that. Don't panic. Sari is here. Also, hi. I love you. Hope you're well. Back at you, Sari. Thank you so much for joining. I just started a little dark. That's not what I wanted to do. Wow. There goes Vault 2. We're really going to need Vault 3 to be amazing right now. Uh, center. Thank you. All right, so now I need to actually complete this mode. That's just exciting. I'm going to try and bring a multiball into this. Oh, my gosh. I will take that every day of the week and twice on Tuesday. That was a wonderful Laz. The hardest shot for me is the left ramp. And unfortunately, you need to use the left ramp a good bit in this game. There we go. Not good, not good. alright episode 2 man that was so close to being just three drains and out so All right, so I'm doubled up. I got the reject, of course. I had two balls in the van down by the river. That's just how that always goes. I'm going to grab that. All right, that works, I guess, a little bit. How are you doing over there? I don't want to say because it'll jinx myself, but things are better than they've been. I'm on ball one still. Oh, wow, that's awesome. And as I say that, the bow and arrow falls free. All right. It was first to Jack Pato Grande, right? Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I hit that one. I will say the upper loop is so much fun to hit that it's like I feel like I, it's rare for the flipper to go by that upper flipper. It's rare for the ball to go by that upper flipper without me flipping. Like, I always want to go. King Ninja Man, George is winning the battle. No, no, no. I am winning the battle currently, but George is winning the war. Okay, so now I've got, what do I need to hit? I need to hit the left ramp, somehow get the 1-2-3 foot so I don't start another multiball. So left ramp, way premature. Got it. Is that going to go all the way around? Nope. Okay, so I really want to hit the foot 1-2-3 just like that. Now I can hit the... If I can hit this right ramp quickly, I won't start the multiball. Yes! Now I'm ready to start my third mode. Got it. And an extra ball. I lit the extra ball. I have not gotten said extra ball. But I also got shredder. I don't know about you. Not good. All right, before I do anything... Actually, I'm going to get a multiball. Yeah! Boom. It's your birthday. It's your birthday. I can't dance at all. That was the... It was like the worst. The worst. The awful dancing. So we are ready to complete the third mode. So I drained purposely to get through the third mode. Nice, nice. I got that extra ball. Obviously what I wanted to do there. So we are out of the mode. I completed the third. Now I need to hit the left ramp, right ramp to start the fourth. Ooh, left ramp. Got it. Come on. I am lit. Yeah, you are. I just need to... Nice. Come on, somebody. No, I am lit for my fourth episode, but I have to hit it. And then... I have my fourth episode started. Going backhand on the right ramp, because that's my favorite easy shot. Wow, that felt really good. Come on. Oh, no. No, I just drained out. I had my fourth. I purposely drained a ball to get me through the third mode. Then I got into my, to get prepared for my fourth mode, and I had it lit, and I just needed to start it. Dang. That sucks. You got me there. Well, I'm not there yet. I didn't start it. You started your fourth mode, though. I did, but I... Oh, it's modes and then score, right? Yeah. I don't know. Dang it. I, like, I purposely dropped a ball, thinking I got enough balls, like, on my head, enough that I can do this. But... I started the mini-wizard mode. There you go. Just got it done. Jeff, welcome to the stream. This machine has the smallest bumpers by the flipper. I have ever seen. I wonder if that's actually the case. Joel flew too close to the sun and intentionally draining. I know. Dakota Mike, at the time, it was a smart strategy. I'm like, I'm at ball one. I'm three modes in. Let me, like, I just started third. Let me drop this ball. I'm good. I wasn't good. I got cocky. I got cocky. I thought I had a chance on that one Hey look don panic flip Just another pinball has a Tilt Bob installed There is a Tilt Bob in this pit There you go Proof said Tilt Bob is installed Oh, my hope. Nice. Instead of copies. I see what you did there. Dang. Ha, ha. All right. That is challenge number four. We've still got three challenges, guys, and it is only a little after 11 o'clock. I'm going to head over to scores. I'm going to enter this one in. I guess X, O. You do 4-3. 4-3, okay. promotes that. I like it. I like it. I like how the winner is just kind of like auto-pilling. I wasn't going to say anything about that, but... No. Joel, yeah. Fake news. I used to go to Scores all the time. Waka waka. Wow, we'd have pulled some Muppets out. That's pretty old school right there. No, the Muppets are great. Let's hope Bob is alive. Pin Daddy, welcome to the stream. All right. So 4-3, yeah. So you have won the match at this point. Yes. Yeah. But you don't want to give up on something, right? No, no. No, that's... The goal is to avoid the skunk. I'm just so happy that things are working. It is. Seriously. like technically everything it's just it's working seemingly very well I hope from your guys' side you can hear everything we're synced pretty well and it seems like we're still in line can somebody tell me who makes the best high end virtual pinball machines in the US Big G Gamer there is without a doubt that is MPT3K so if that's what you want is the highest most amazing virtual pin cab in existence, you need to talk to MPT3K. He won the battle, but he didn't win the... Oh, yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. No, there was a moment where I felt like I was winning that battle. I thought you had it, honestly, because I played so horribly on Balls 1 and 2. It was drain after drain. I'm going to switch back over to scores. What do we have up next? We have most complete modes. Okay. Complete? Yeah, I was just thinking about that. That wasn't intentional, but the most number of, I guess, lights on the center, if I'm going to show the play field, the most, no, wait a second. Boom, look at that. The most number of solidly lit lights in the center of the play field. All right. Because you can, yeah, and this is for people that don't have Turtles, just starting a mode counts as completing it. So you can see on the DMD on the right side, there's five different icons. And when you finish completing a mode, the icon will either be green or red. And it gives you perks to do other stuff. Are you guys using Zoom? We are personally using Zoom just to talk, but that's not actually what we're doing to share everything. Yeah, this is Desk Camera. I think Flipstream is in here. And Flipstream wrote an amazing article, two articles actually, on my blog, Flipstream. Feel free to share those articles if you want to. If you guys want to know how to do this, Desk Camera is a wonderful piece of software that is actually on our Discord most recently and being super responsive to change requests. It's using the RTSP, not media, protocol. Thank you. The RTSP protocol. Joel, thanks for being there for me. I had a conversation, yelled at, and then gave a thanks all to myself in one go. So I appreciate you being there for that. There we go. Part one and part two. Fertzilla, also, welcome to the stream. And we're using their software, which ultimately takes physical cameras, so all the cameras that Joel and I use to stream, and makes them available over the Internet using RTSP, which is amazing because there's a couple of different ways you can do this. You can do it with something like Zoom, or you can do it with Discord, but Discord, you have to pay the $80 a month in order to get the high-quality option, which we've never tried. But the low-quality option happens to have, it has problems. We'll leave it at that. But regardless, the cool thing about Desk Camera is that I can do something like this, which is where I actually get the three different sources from Joel as three different components that I can individually size and move around. So we can go from this and my play field, which I have my handout over here, to there's Joel's and his hand, right? And I'm over here in the corner, and that is Joel's direct captured LCD up at the top. And then we can come over here and do battles, right? Where now Joel is off on the right, his DMD is down below. and we've got our play field centered, and then we can switch that up, and now we can go to full-size chat. That's the level of flexibility, and because I'm pulling each individual component, the latency is pretty small. Even with audio and video pulled in together, we're typically seeing about, I want to say it was a second and a half of delay today, which is interesting. Now, you can get around that and not have to worry at all about latency or delay by using Zoom, but Zoom's quality on the video is just god-awful. You don't get any of the details of the play field. You're definitely not getting 60 frames per second. So you make the audio, and the fact that you have to sync all of those different things together to make it seem like they're all happening at the same time, you don't have to worry about any of that, but at the sacrifice of quality. So you get kind of the best of both worlds between NGINX and Desk Camera by going with Desk Camera because you also get the flexibility of being able to move things around. Yeah, I've been very impressed with this software. Well, we were trying to set it up last night, so it's like 2 in the morning my time, and we asked a question on Discord, and two different people immediately responded and helped us through it. It's pretty awesome. One of them was the developer. It was one of the developers for Death's Camera. It was so cool to get that kind of response back. Yeah. Yeah, no, this is working great for sure. and it was relatively easy to set up too like I mean if you struggle with like I don't know basic computer stuff it would be a challenge but if you can follow directions it would work pretty well the directions probably do need to be updated though so the directions need to be updated with the newest rev because seriously desk cameras made so many adjustments to make the application work better for streamers and we also got them to work out custom licensing for twitch streamers So you can pay five bucks and get a 15-day license because the licenses are all attached to individual computers, as opposed to, I think it's $80 for a permanent license. So it's really nice for someone like me when I do battles with multiple people where I just buy a license and hand out the key to Joel, let's say, who installs it, and he's got an active license now for 15 days for very little on my side to set up. So there's that and just the usability. Honestly, like Nginx has no real UI. It's kind of a pain to set up and you just don't have the same level of flexibility that this gives you. And on top of that, Nginx uses RTMP as opposed to RTSP. We saw more significant delays on Nginx as opposed to me going out. Like I am literally grabbing the video off of Joel's computer right now and pulling it into OBS. It's really cool. Yeah, I could basically, I could post my link, and any of you guys could watch it. Yeah. Watch one of these videos if you wanted to. It's really pretty cool. The last thing I wanted to point out was that if you can follow directions, which we do need to go through an update, but the fact that there are directions and they're so clearly written and step everything down, that is totally Flipstream who posted those two articles earlier. So thanks to all of the ridiculous hard work that Flipstream did, finding Desk Camera, initiating those conversations with the developers and sales team at Desk Camera, and then writing up a complete tutorial on how to do all of it. That is huge. So my hat's off to you, Flipstream, for getting all of that done and making all of this possible. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. So jumping back into this, we've got most complete modes. So I'm going to switch back over to the battle. There is no time limit on this one. It's just modes, and then if we happen to tie at the same modes, it comes down to score. Sounds good. You ready? Yep. Ooh, I'm curious. What are you going to go with? Probably Raphael. Okay. I'm going to try Leonardo. Okay. Hey, I don't know why, but... Because if I go... So I know it's most complete modes, and I could make one shot or two, but the cool thing is that I get training lit right away, and that automatically adds 10% to all of my scores afterwards. You're just going for scores. I'm going for that immediate left out lane drain, is what apparently I'm going for, which is super fun. Oh, I just followed you with that. Oh, never mind. I had to shoot again on the turtle save. Found that training shot. I got my first training lit. I'm going to try and shoot the right ramp here. Wow. Left ramp. Got it. Okay, so first training done. My new perk adds 10 seconds plus 10% to all scores. And I had to hit the left and right ramp to do that, so I lit an episode, and now I'm starting my first episode. I see what you did. Okay. 42. That is really not good. Oh, don't do this to me. Oh, no, what happened? No, my, uh... I had the magnetic balls stuck under the van. Oh, oh, they all get panned up. I'm good. Just staying on the side of the cabinet a few times. Prompt said. Thank God I went with that 10% on all scores. It's rocking it right now. It's like a project. Flipchain is letting Jeff know, no NGINX at all. It's port-cording for Joel to desk camera servers. George is pulling the RTSP stream directly off of Joel's PC with the cameras attached. I thought they were saying they had to run... Oh, no, no, no. Jeff, this is like the seventh or maybe eighth duel that we've done. And the first, I think, three duels that we did, we used Nginx, where everybody streams to the Nginx server using kind of like a jigsaw format for, like, somebody takes a third of the play field, somebody takes the middle of the play field, and I take the other third of the play field, and then use transparency to overlay on top of all three of those, so that way nobody, with green background, basically, so I could overlay those on top. It was janky, but it worked. The problem was just limited mobility. I had to get the people who were streaming to change their scenes in sync with mine in order to give the whole stream a cohesive look, as opposed to I can go over and we can watch Joel for a second while he's playing, right? And Joel doesn't have to do anything. And then I can, nope, that is not what I meant to do. Or I can go over to Chad or to Challenger. Wow. Some of those got named improperly. Sounds, yeah, Jeff, it was super janky. But in that instance, by the way, kind of fun story. No. No worries. Fun story that's a follow-up to that is I set up... I'm sorry, go ahead. Somebody said I was still lighting his play skill. It looks amazing. It is. It's very well lit. Do you want to describe your lighting situation? Sure. I have my basement lights off. I just have two of these LED panels. that are on arms up above their probably, I don't know, maybe three feet off the playfield and then back of foot. And then I have their homemade, they're like pinstages. I don't know how else to describe them, but they're just two LED strips that I kind of made into a channel and I haven't held on. So very similar to George. George just has two additional LED panels. but I know he's tweaked my color a little bit so it might be my actual lighting that looks good or it might be George's tweaks that make it look good yeah so what did I do I bumped up the oh my god I can't talk at the same time calm it down here oh my god game I bumped up the gamma turned up the brightness a hair. And what else did I do? And I turned up the saturation a bit. So it was all OBS kind of gimmicks to get there. Yeah, my the screen for whatever, it just looked very dark. It looked darker than it should have when it came through, so George helped it a little bit. Yeah, now So I feel like I've watched enough of Joel's stream. Which, by the way, you guys, I'm sorry, before I go any further, you guys probably know Joel at this point, but if you don't, Joel is not only a podcaster with potentially the best audio quality on TPN's network, which was a great conversation today, but an amazing, high-quality podcast streamer here on Twitch. if you have not given just another pinball streamer, that is those four words all said, all lined up without spaces or casing, but if you have not given Joel a follow, I would highly suggest you do so. Super high quality. I'm talking some of the best, you can see it right here. This is 60 frames per second direct from Joel's camera on him, on the play field and direct capture using the very best in Stern's offered direct capture technology. Have I corrected that? You said offered. That's a really good point. There's both some drama and some... Yeah, there's stuff. How many modes do you have? I have one complete right now I'm on my second I just completed the second yeah I was one shot away from starting it but nope well thank you, thank you for the kind words yeah no I podcasting is literally just me sitting in front of my computer talking about what I, I don't know, things that I've seen or read in the pinball hobby. And luckily I've gotten some really good feedback. People email me questions or prompts or whatever, and I enjoy that. Just when I catch a moment, sit down and record one and throw it out there. But the joke with the audio quality was there was a guy on the TPN channel that just bashes a lot of the podcasts out there. And, yeah, for whatever reason, I reached out to the guy or I messaged him I said, I'm just curious if you listen to mine, because I was curious if he hated mine too. And his response was, I tried to listen to your first one, but the audio was too quiet. But when I got to your second one, it was better, or something like that. So the fact that he listened to more than one, I immediately thought, well, that's good. And then I got a few more emails where people were saying my audio was a little low. So I did some really fancy stuff, which was I turned the game knob on my mic up a little bit. Super fancy. And recorded another episode and then got like two or three posts on Pinside where they're like, the audio quality is perfect. So, yeah. What? Can't hear you? Can you hear me now? Yeah. No. Yeah, that's great, by the way. You came through. I was still clear just then. I'll just play right up next to the mic like that I don't know I thought that was really funny what audio settings did you use half a turn half a turn of the knob yeah ok so that was so it's production quality and not the actual content sure no I would say production quality on my streaming I feel like my stream looks good the content, the actual playing abilities are there I like flip stream with what? I can't hear you you already commented awesome this is why the pinball community is the best community lifting up and promoting your friends incredible, absolutely that's huge, did you already address that as well? I apologize I'm sorry, what? No. That was, sorry, from Incredible was just, I don't want to repeat. I just think when I scream. This is my TV's best lifting up in front of me. Yeah, yeah. Okay. No, it's, yeah, it's been awesome. And to be honest, there's the Don't Panic Flip Discord, and then there's a TPN Discord. And I've loved those. I mean, I feel like, yeah, with COVID and everything, it's not like we're out hanging out and grabbing dinner. but the fact that Discord, we can just chat it up and joke around has been... I felt like since May, I have this whole new friends group, which is funny because it's all people I've never met, but it's a lot of fun. It's only people you haven't met for a very short period of time, Joel. Because as soon as things open up, I feel like Texas Pinball Festival, so TPF 2021, there's already... A, I think the hotel's sold out already. the primary hotel, you have to use one of the others which is awesome then there's Pinburg next year and then there's the Pacific Northwest thing like I'm tentatively I feel like planning on going to all of them, all the big ones next year, as long as COVID doesn't ruin it. I'm in Indiana so like, yeah Chicago, anything in Chicago, that's easy that's a drive for me, but everything else is a flight I don't know, something will be fun I definitely want to go to something. Pink Ninja Man says you're coming up this way to the Pacific Northwest. I want to. I really enjoyed. We did a family trip up to Oregon and Washington two years ago, which is when I got to meet up with Sari and Dirty Toes, which was so much fun. I have yet to meet physically in person. MPT 3K, Joel, Becca, and Jordan are coming out here next weekend driving from Texas. I'm excited about that. That's going to be so much fun. And, yeah, like, literally just can't wait until we all get together again. Because I went to three different big ones. I did Pinberg 2019. I did TPF 2019. And then Rocky Mountain Pinball Showdown two years in a row. And luckily, I went solo. I knew nobody. and the Reno Pinball Group, that's Dave and Jim, totally took me under their wing, and I hung out with them. You're holding size right now. During both of those events, and it was so, so much fun. They turned, because I don't deal well with large groups of people and then large groups where I don't know anybody. I was really struggling, but those guys just made it so much more enjoyable. Oh, yeah. No, I'm all for it. I would love to be a part of that. I like people. I like people and I like meeting new people. That's what even this, it was like deciding I'm going to jump in with streaming. It's like, all right, here we go. And I felt like I day one jumped in with messaging people and questioning and everything. Nothing but love from the other side has been awesome. Here we go. Okay, I'm jumping over to scores and complete eight modes. I hit three. And what modes did you get to? I just had one. I was one shot away from two. It didn't happen. All right. Here, I think this is my favorite next mode, which is the one ball high score. This is it. There's no extra balls, no anything. It's just go. What was it? That one that I thought I was going to beat you. I had a really good ball one, so George stopped showing off. Yeah. This may be it. This may be my chance. I think I'm not going to make it easy on you, or I might make it very easy. What's probably going to happen is it's really the first one to drain out the left loses. That's really what it's going to be. Screw that left out lane. This left out lane has a magnet, a wah-wah-wah style magnet. No one knows how they work. But, yeah, I don't like that. What gets me is hitting the layer shot and having it drop gently down, having it bounce off the middle post, pop up off the left post, and then drain, and you had no control over it. There's a setting for that. You can turn on a ball save. You can turn on a ball save for that? Yeah. It's a layer ball save. And I'd say I was cheating because I've had it turned on the whole time, but it hasn't helped me, obviously. But, no, if you go to adjustments and then game, you'll see number – because somebody complained about that really early on. Ball save layer right there. So number 24. Number 24, you can set it. So I set it to like two seconds. So it'll turn on your ball saver when it kicks something out of the lair. So two seconds. Beautiful. Done. I have added that. That is amazing. Thank you, Dwight, or whoever implemented that. But should have told you that after. To the public. After this round. We love pinball. Welcome to the stream. No, this is, what I find the most infuriating one I have is, yeah, when you have action from the right side and it hits that middle, I don't know, between the two inlanes when it hits that bar and then bounces up over the rubber. Like, you can't do anything about it. Right. All right, that's fine. We are dropping in quality here for a second. You guys bear with us. Yeah. Usually it dips and then it comes back. You know what I can do is... Let's go back to that score screen for one second. No, actually, I'm going to go here. To me. And I'm just going to turn you off here for a second and reset your connection. Yeah. What's your name? Your name is Challenger? Where are you? Browser? Yeah, there it is. Challenger, play field. Challenger DMD and Challenger Player. And then I'm going to bring you back on. So we are recreating that connection. Yeah, my upload speed is still good. Okay. Hopefully it's just kind of this initial connection piece. I'm going to come back over to chat. It's just my player cam. That is so crazy that the player cam is experiencing the most. Well, beer with you. Rawr. Right? Bumper Nugget, welcome to the stream. Paul, hopefully we'll get something set up again next week here. And, wow, that is a... Actually, it's all my stuff, yeah. I can... We can either play through it or I can stop and start desk cam. Let's play through it. Hopefully it's just a dip, you guys. Some loser mustels. Loser mustels. Yeah, well, I've already lost, so... All right. I already lost the... One ball. So, one ball, got it. Okay. All right. And there's no timer here, so feel free to plunge and plunge away. All right. Whoo! Let's see if that left flipper has cooled down enough to hit the backhand. It did. I got one. Wow, this first ball is really, really struggling. There we go, backhand hit. Nope. I'll take that battle again. That is fine. Woo! All right. Ninja Parlor and start. F is down. There it is. That was... I went Donatello thinking I could do something with my multiball. And nope. Nothing of value, for sure. Woo! I just hit start without even thinking, and I think I picked up Michelangelo, and I don't even know how to use Michelangelo. He helps you with your... Battles, right? Yeah. No, he helps you with, like, your outlings. Your outlings are lit. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, well, that was my ball. What do you got? I think I have more currently. I'm at 335. I'm at 225, so don't drain. Somebody must have been running a couple of low digits. Right? Did we make it through the blip? It looks good now. Oh, you're already over a million. Dang. Yeah, I dove right into Donatello multiple, the turtle power, and nothing happened. I did not do well. Does this mean glass off and a little stone? Yeah. Just imagining. Sorry, what is your wife's username again? Just another pimple. Just another wife. Just another wife. Yeah, she made it up. I was like, all right, yeah. What is it? George has four balls on the play field. That's cheating. That is true. Yeah, this was a one-ball challenge. Yeah. You set the rules, right? Yeah. What is it? Ani Gadget Girl? It's been a while. I love Turtles. Love seeing you play. Still working on a documentary. But it's been difficult with COVID and a newborn. Last footage, I was blue. to get was Silverball and use DM and Asprey. Keep up the good works. Cool. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, COVID and a newborn. My son's four months and yeah, this is, it's weird. It's like, it was really weird when he was born because at the time nobody was interacting with anybody. So it's like, how do you get family to see your brand new child? But the reality is now it's like we're not really eating at restaurants but we probably wouldn't be anyways because nobody wants to take a newborn to the restaurant. So it's just a weird, it's weird times. It is, yeah. I think it's an automatic DQ for the match. Joel wins for the four balls. Yeah. He did say one ball. You are not, you are not wrong on that. No. Hey, I'm having a good time. I hope, I hope, yeah. I hope nobody put money down on me. I feel like when we were practicing before, I was watching these huge games, and I'm like, Joel keeps saying he didn't think anything was going to happen, but I wonder if it's one of those, I don't know about you, but before I stream, I always put a game on, and I feel like the game I put on before my stream is the game I always want to actually have streamed, Because it's always the most amazing game I'm going to play ever. Yeah. Well, it's... To be honest, when I stream, I typically just fire everything up and let's go. And, yeah, people can have fun with me or bear through it. Somebody said it was one of my first streams. Somebody wrote, and I don't remember who wrote it, but I've adapted the mentality that it takes 45 minutes to warm up. So I just always blame that for 45 minutes. I have heard you point that out multiple times. I wonder if that's really a thing because I like that. I don't know. I think somebody just said it, but I'm adapting to it. So it gives me a good excuse for, yeah, poor play early on. But, no, I just like it. I'm to the point now that if I play, I like to just throw up the stream. So I have a lot of random streams that way. But what I have found is when I do play, when you don't have to talk and you don't have to look at chat and you can just focus, you can play better. It's amazing. But believe it or not, I enjoy the engaging with chat almost as much as I enjoy playing the game. That's why if I'm going to play, I'd rather be streaming. Which I feel like is so crazy when you take someone like Deadflip who will put up a wizard mode or two or three billion point games on Deadpool and the whole time he's talking with chat and seemingly only paying about maybe 80 or 90% attention but is still putting up absolutely massive scores on those games. You've got to think of someone like Deadflip is probably like an A-Division Penberg player and what we see is him playing down in order to maintain decent conversation and entertain which I think is just so freaking cool. all the pop-up tutorials Bowen is like talking through it and legitimately destroying games I mean Bowen there's there's completely different yeah I am there are so many different levels of skill even between you and me I mean it like skill level is just but it still fun that what I enjoy about it And it turtles And it freaking turtles Like how cool is this theme Yeah, well, this was what, I mean, we're skating here. I think I'm showing you this, but this is why I'm a fan of turtles right here. Here's my leg. There's Bebop and Rocksteady. Woo, that's the leg right there. Yeah. The logo is right there. Hold on, hold on. I'll move the logo. This is totally where it's moving, the logo. There we go. Perfect, yeah. So I'm a fan of this theme. This is my... This is definitely... Twitch fan. It's George's stream. Yeah, I'm fine. It's George's stream, so I'm good. All right, putting the logo back. We love pinball. Says, you love pinball very much. Three billion on Deadpool. I know, yeah, yeah. That's just insane. That's such a fun and amazing game. And, like, T-shirt, you've got the pinball machine, you've got the banner behind you, you've got the tattoo. Like, it's... Oh, I was, yeah, Turtles was a... Yeah, when I heard that there was a rumored Turtles theme, it's like, well, what do I need to sell to start saving for this game that may or may not show up? Honey, if this is happening, whether or not you want it, it's just... It's Turtles. It's obviously a thing. By the way, Gadget Girl says, good to see real pinball. Had to set up virtual home because it's too small for a table, So Metallica is sitting in storage, and it kills me. That is so disappointing. It is. When you have a machine that's broken or not working, it is the worst feeling as a pinball owner. Or in storage, where it's like, I have this thing, and I want to play, but I can't. It's, yeah. And I like fixing my games. So if I know, like, one thing, if it's wrong, I can't play it. It's like, well, that switch is important, so I've got to wait four days for the new part and fix it. Oh, and then someone like Raul Pingbal, who is in, I can't remember. Oh, man. He's in Brazil. He's in South America, and I don't remember which country, but he has to wait sometimes 30 to 45 days for even simple parts to get replaced. And apparently the taxes on anything like that that's imported is significant. Yeah. No, I live in Indiana, so I could order from Pinball Life, who's in Chicago, and, I mean, I could have a part in 48 hours. I mean, it's awesome, but I still, it's 48 hours, I can't play the game. But, yeah, I see this. You'd love pinball very much if you buy a terrarium, four turtles, and a rat. I will tell you, if we had a, if our second child was going to be a girl, our first, our daughter's name is Autumn, but if we were going to have a girl, I was shooting for April I wanted April That's so cool We went with Calvin Because he's a boy Thank you, I was about to say Please tell me that's a reference to Calvin and Hobbes 100% I have all of the books I read it as a kid I grew up with Calvin and Hobbes, I'm such a fan Also, yes, Sari That smile, that was totally for your sacrifice Everything for the machine That's also, by the way It's kind of hard to tell, but I don't do older games anymore because I don't like dealing with broke-down pinball. Like you mentioned, it is a really awful feeling when you've got such an expensive toy that doesn't work and you know the amount of time that you're going to have to put into it to track down some sort of an electrical issue. It's just flat out, I just don't want to do that anymore. So everything for me, I have cut down on the number of pinball machines overall, but they're all new pinball machines now. Yeah, I respect that. Yep. My Pokemon Go Pokemon are named after Tia Venti characters. Turtles are just so great. And Sari says, we are lucky AF. We're decent friends with our local distributor of the machines. We can't have them come to fix stuff. And have in the past for Wizard of Oz. Yep. And Sari and Dirty Toes have a wonderful selection of games. Yeah. Becca, that's why I have Jordan. Yeah. Uh, Loose Flip, good evening. Alright, what is our, what's our last one? Oh, this is, the last one is the best one. This is so cool. Oh, the final battle? Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to switch over to scores. And what do we got? Wizard mode high score. We're going to jump directly to the final battle. Yeah. You won the, you won the last one, right? Not letting you. No, no. Oh, yeah. and I believe it's actually oh right yeah sorry not good evening but good morning that's right I think you guys are 8 hours ahead of us but that maybe is depending on whether or not we're in or out of standard time right now so 8am there you go good morning alright switching over to the battle screen do you know how to jump directly into the wizard mode yes it says George is a beast today yeah yes he's killing it today so walk me through it how do you get into the wizard mode oh well I'm assuming what you want is Stern's new feature which is you hold both flippers together and then you navigate over to DJ Mixer and you can just sit here and we can listen to music for DJ Mixer is their it's a new it's like they've added a jukebox into your pin which is interesting. I don't know if you knew that. I read it. Apparently, I completely misread what it was supposed to do because it sounded like they were doing something positive for streamers, but it's like... There is a setting that you can, so the main Turtles theme, you could have it play a different song. So that is the setting, and it doesn't have anything to do with DJ Mixer. It actually deals with the code. But what he's talking about is this is in Jurassic Park, and it's in Turtles, where if you hold both flippers in, you'll get this choose your mode of play and then one of the options is you can skip right to the final wizard mode. So we're going to select final battle. And yeah, this is actually going to put us straight into the final battle, the final wizard mode. I don't know really what makes the most sense, who to play. I'm going with Raphael just because it says extra damage to bosses and in standard video games I'm okay with that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I might go Michelangelo just to give me the outlines. That's probably a bad idea, but. No, I'll go with that. All right, here we go. All right. All right. So it's just, this isn't timed. It's just whoever has the highest score. Absolutely. I just wanted to save the MPT3K call out one more time. Oh, yeah. They're saying that jukebox thing, I mean, Jack Danger made a video on it, and he said it's just the tip of the iceberg, so they're planning on doing more of that. Okay. And if they get it to the point where you can swap out songs, yeah, that would be great. But I don't know if we'll get there. We'll see. All right, you're, yep, go for it. All right, feel the rhythm, do the thing. Here's the stuff, and here's your bling. I messed that up, but let's go. Oh, I need to hit start. Apparently. No, I just did two players. Oh, I got a head start. I got a head start on you then. It doesn't matter. It's not time. It's not time. I'm restarting. I mean, you can play the one player. It's only one ball. Oh, that's right. It's only one ball. It's IRD. I'm good. I'm just going to be able to. Final battle challenge. Raphael. Here we go. Here we go. I would think they were putting that in all future patches for their friends also. man that is so great that's I do occasionally want to play the music from the thing and not generating a CNCA due to due to us involving the team seems like a really good idea so in general I guess I'm just happy with Stern recognizing streamers yeah the fact that yeah I think they realized because I think Jack Danger has gotten a few he had gotten more than one strike And he wasn't doing anything wrong, he was literally just streaming his game. So I think they realized, okay, we need to give, we need some options here. So this WITWORD mode has quite a lot of ball save at the very beginning. It really does. And then you get to phase two, and phase two is, there's no, like, the, yeah, the level of intensity drastically increases between phase one and phase two. Wow. And just like that, I'm down to one ball. I have to shoot the left ramp to get to phase two. Yeah. See if I can actually hit it tonight. Got it. All right, so it just drained the flippers. Sorry, it just turned off the flippers and drained all the balls. Phase one complete. All right, we need to hit the ramp here. and we got an April Hurry Up I'll take that red shot there we go alright, phase one done so I know all the all the Rocksteady shots are on the right and all the D-Bot shots are on the left but I don't really know besides hitting them what the Yeah, I haven't beat this yet, so I don't know what happens afterwards. Apparently I really need to hit Donatello or the Jack Pato Grande shot. I think I'm going to focus on the Jack Pato. Woo! All right, we're fine game. No reason to freak out. And I drew. That was my final battle. I think... What's your score? Oh, I need like one or two shots. Yeah, I bet like 6.691. I'm watching it. You've got 6-4. Oh, actually, let's go this, and now it's easier to see. You're at 6-4, 4-9. You need 200,000. You got it. 6-8, 4-9. I got one? You got it. Hey, guys, I did it. I did it, guys. Yes. I did the thing. Keep playing this, man. You got this. I would really like to see what happens when this gets completed. So One of them's done All my red shots are done So I just have my two Per loop Okay Z-Mac pinball Welcome to the stream There's one It's a pair of hurry ups And you have a certain amount of time To beat both Or they come back on Toidles Sound of No Z-Mac The Well That was one shot Well I gotta win Yeah Heck yeah Alright I'm going over to scores pulling this up. And this one is Joel. Awesome. Man, that is so much fun. I absolutely love these duels. They're such a good time. Z-Mac is... My high score is not George. My high score is not George. Which is funny, you guys, for levels, because every time we've met on Zoom this week. Joel's name has been... Wait, is it not George, or what is it? It was not George the first time, and then it's been still not George. Still not George. You guys need the TMNT emoji that has Shredder yelling, babies for a drain. I feel like there is context there that I am missing out on. The voice call-outs in this game are actually fantastic. They really... Like, I know some people complain. They're like, why didn't they get the original voice actors? But to be honest, I mean, the turtles, you can, there's one or two turtles that you can kind of tell. But, like, all the villains sound great. Krang is so spot on. I really, really like Krang. Oh, why didn't they get Shredder? Because, yeah, unfortunately, that guy has passed away. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah, but I think the guy that did Shredder and the guy that did Krang are, like, it's like an engineer at Stern. It's not a professional voice actor. It's just a guy that's like, oh, I think I can do that. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, Marc Silk is a professional voice actor. He did a lot. He did like 13 voices or something in the game. Like, he did a ridiculous amount of them. But Krang and Shredder were both done by internal Stern employees. Now, wasn't Marc Silk recently on a podcast? I don't think it was TPN. Was that? Yeah, Loser Kid, I think. Was it Loser Kid? It was so cool. Was it super awesome? It may have been super awesome, yeah. I think it was super awesome. And just hearing the guy talk, you can tell that's what he does. Oh, yeah. And he is definitely a voice person. And he just pulled up all these different personas and then started talking about the difficulties of playing multiple characters in a scene. Yeah. And that is, like, I enjoy doing voices for, like, books and stuff for my kids, but that is somebody who does it professionally. And the difference is so staggering. it is so so staggering he said so Marc Silk he's an English guy and he did Bob the Builder he voiced Bob the Builder here in the US the American the American version of Bob the Builder absolutely did the American Bob the Builder so I don't know he's done a bunch but no it's very cool to have your voice in a game would be yeah would be very nice and ZMAC thank you so much for hanging out on a school night of all nights have yourself a great evening stay focused get stuff done and hope you have a very enjoyable weekend. And TMNT Movie 2, the intro for Tokar and Razor. Oh my gosh, I remember it now, where Shredder is so upset that they brought in babies and used the ooze on the baby animals. And then kind of gets excited when he can teach the baby animals new things. But not that I've seen. One more game? Yeah. That's it. I'll play something else if you want to go one more. Yeah, you want to go one more game? Sure, what do you want to do? You want to do just a game or a different... Your call, then. Challenge? Yeah, this is all on you. What challenge do you want to do? I don't know. I don't know. If anybody has something in chat, let's see. I got nothing. The only thing we didn't do, we did Lair. We didn't do anything with April. Okay. We could see, like, the most April hurry-ups. We could do that. Okay, so... Price is Right. Oh, Price is Right is great. Ooh! I forgot about Price is Right! Okay. Yeah, yeah. Let's do that. That's wonderful. What score do we want? Like, a million without going over? Well, I don't think I'll have that problem. No. You want to do... No, what are... Okay, no. Our scores are roughly... Yeah, we could do a million without going over. Flipstream suggested 500K. 500K is fair. 500K without going over. All right. 500K, unfortunately, I don't... I have no idea. I have not paid attention to score whatsoever. Yeah, I'm just going to have to take a shot, trap up. All right. Do I think I can get closer? Yeah. I know what I like about Total Nuclear Annihilation is the bonus. It's right in the middle of the play field, so you always know what your bonus is. So if you play this on that, you can take that into a combination. Crane combo. Is a crane combo worth like $500,000? Just one shot and we screw ourselves. Yeah, I'm a little worried about screwing ourselves here. All right, let's do it, though. 500. Let's give it a shot. And there's no countdown necessary, so just do it up. All right. 130 points. So do we have to finish all three balls? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm assuming that's, yeah. All right, so I'm at 50,000. Ten times this. Yeah, I'm at 50. 51. Yeah, this is a very slow point. All right, 186. That's a little scary. 2.58 I don't think I want to start an episode. I'm going to let that drain. Oh, my God. I'm so over. You already are. I am so over. Oh, because you completed the mode. I didn't. No, I accidentally initiated a weapon, and I hit the weapon, which I think is worth 500,000. So I need to. Oh, I'm over. Okay. What? 500,000? I think 500,000 might be. I hit the skill shot. Yep. Oh, and it's worth 500,000. Yeah, I literally was like, all right, I just need to plunge two balls, and I just hit the auto-plunge. Just hit the auto-plunge, and it rolled over the skill shot. All right, so we both went over. We've still got... Come on, you want to try one more, but this time do a million? Yeah, we've got to do better. All right, guys, we've got this. One million. I literally was like, oh, it's a plunge. Boom, and it plunges and does the skill shot and screws me. All right, let me restart this game. Come on. There we go. All right. So we're going again, and we're doing a mill. Yes. I just put up 7,000 points on ball one. I'm feeling pretty good about this right now. Thank you, Becca. You're not over. Thank you. Here. I want the skill shot. Why not? Okay, so the skill shot's 100,000. Woo! Fine. Okay, that was 150. And a 36. 36. 86. Man, this is a little scary here. Alright, I don't think we want a multiball. Maybe. Maybe. Bonus times three multiplier. That was probably something I didn't want to get. Uh, yep. I feel like in this challenge, your score should be hidden until the end. How cool would that be? All right. It would be cool if you were familiar with the game, like if you really knew what you were hitting. Like for like a competitive player that knows, oh, I need 100,000, I'm going to hit boom, boom, boom. Like, well, I have no idea. Okay. So what would I just, where am I at? I was almost at 100,000. Okay. All right. Ball three. Ball three. Okay. So I think I just started a multiball. I'm at 484,000. I'm at 586. Oh, well, I just drained. I was trying to play confidence. You're higher than me already. Don't drain. I did nothing! Yeah! I am the greatest pinball player ever for draining. That's a rolling factor. 557. No, 577. That's... Fuck! What happened? I was in a multiball. All I did was I hit the pops. You know when we said it takes 45 minutes to warm up? I think it takes two hours for me to warm up, because that's two in a row. That's frustrating. I really, really like this game, though. This is giving me so much joy. Becca, I agree. I am, I'm in the same, I'm in the same joy boat. I just want to see if I can hit Jack Pato. Loser eats pizza with whipped cream and hot fudge sauce. I would eat that. I would never eat that. I do not like fudge. I don't like chocolate. I do love pizza. You don't like chocolate? Well, I should, I should qualify that. I really like milk chocolate if it's not too, too much. Shell shock, bro. tuna fish pizza oh no is that diet no okay that was yeah what short yeah you don't like chocolate I mean that's fine I don't like popcorn what yeah I don't know what it was I don't ever remember liking popcorn but I had braces like when I was in fifth grade and you couldn't have popcorn and you'd like get stuck in my teeth for whatever reason just popcorn was never never liked it and when we would go to the movies my mom would get a big thing of popcorn and they'd split it, like my siblings and my mom, and she would buy me candy, so I had my own thing to myself. That was great. That's my popcorn story. Cool popcorn stories. Yeah. So what, Jorgle? But we have to say, Brain, how can you not like all chocolate? Right? Yeah. Y'all need Jesus. Oh, man. Yeah, Jesus was known for his love of popcorn and chocolate. Exactly. So I really like M&M's, but here's the thing. My favorite combination is popcorn and peanut butter M&M's eaten together. Because that would probably be, I would eat that, just due to how much I enjoy peanut butter M&M's. So I guess that's it. Thank you so much, Joel, for hanging out, for dueling. That was such a fun time. The chat was wonderful. and also thank you again so much for hanging out this week in preparation to make this successful because guys like I said man this was Joel putting in a lot of overtime to help make all of this work and Flipstream as always thank you so much for all of the work you did on desk camera and then in addition also jumping on the other last night and helping us dial in a few settings as well and you guys if you have not followed, Joel. That is just another pinball stream. All one word, all lowercase. Put that right after twitch.tv slash forward slash just another pinball stream. Give him a follow. Support him. Amazing, high quality streamer. Also a part of the pinball network. Joel, how familiar would you say you are with the pinball network? Oh, I've been baptized in the blood of TPN. No, I mean, I think a lot of people think the pinball network is something that it isn't. And the reality is it's just a group of people that enjoy making pinball content. And that's what it is to me, at least. It's an excuse to hang out with like-minded people. So there's podcasters, there's people that do YouTube, and then there's streamers. and just to be able to, you know, just joke around and chat it up with different people that do and love and talk pinball, it's awesome. There's no conspiracy going on in the background. There's no, there's nothing. There's nothing going on in the background besides a group of crazy people joking around and having a good time. It's pretty great. And of the three different branches of TPN, be it the YouTube, the podcasters, and the Twitch streamers, The Twitch streamers, by far, are the best of those three. Yeah. No question. It's definitely, it's funny. Yeah, I mean, streamers, they're extroverts. They're people that enjoy, you know, like, engaging and being out there. And some of these podcasters are, you can tell they're more introverted, but yet they're so funny. Like, the wit out of some of these podcasters is hysterical. And I'm pretty sure every single thing Dennis Creasel says or writes, I like that. He is so good. He is so the exact opposite of Zack in every way. When Zack is like, the glass is half full, Dennis is like, there was no glass. You're just making shit up. That's his response to that. I apologize for the swear, but it was necessary in order to just convey to you Dennis' personality. It's so... Oh, it's even stronger in Discord. It's even stronger behind scenes. I think he tones it down a tiny bit for the podcast, but it's great. Also want to throw out other TPN streamers who are on right now literally chatting as we speak. There's Simon from WeLovePinball out of Germany. We've got Becca and Jordan from Fliptronic. We've got MPT3K, the MPT3K. People at Twitch, what's going on? How are you guys doing? Yeah, that's great. Oh, cool. And I think that's it for people who were just recently chatting. That said, if I'm missing anybody and you are a content creator, regardless of whether or not you're on TPN, but whatevs, go ahead and do a shoutout just like Becca did, exclamation point shoutout space your name, click the link give those people a follow, guys the community, not just around pinball sorry, not just around TPN, but pinball in general is amazing, and we want to share that with everybody as much as possible we love pinball, just subscribe oh my god, I missed it, we love pinball 13 months, that is over a year, Simon my hat's off to you, I'm going to do the That's a cool, like if I could roll the hat off and do the thing back, I would totally do it, but I can't. So I'm just going to mind doing it and then leave it to all of your imaginations to be like, wow, that George, he can do cool things with a hat that doesn't exist. And I digress. Yeah, if I must. So one more thing that's cool about streamers, and this isn't necessarily even TPN. It was just when I decided I wanted to do streaming, I got on George's Don't Panic Flip Discord and immediately started asking a ton of questions and dove right in. And I had bought some webcams and realized I enjoyed this. And George actually sold me his old CX-405, which is my Playfield cam. So I got that used from him. And then Jedi McMuffin, who's another streamer, sold me his CX-440. So I have two used cameras. So it's like the fact that these streamers are helping each other, you know, like, oh, we have somebody that wants to get in this. How can I help you? how can I build this? I mean, it's awesome. It's just been fantastic. So if you're thinking about it, drink the Kool-Aid. Yeah, yeah. You guys have a wonderful night. It is Thursday. I hope everyone has an amazing weekend. And also, to prep, next weekend we have the drinking stream, which, by the way, all evidence gets deleted immediately after the stream. But during the stream, you will be able to increase the odds that somebody decides to take a shot. You're not buying a shot for somebody. You're just increasing the chances that they may choose to take a shot. Let's say it's that. And also, the better you do during the drinking stream tournament, the more shots you have to take. It is a leveling system to try and get the best players to play the most awful. That's awesome. We've got Ty. We've got Bumper Nugget, who's in here right now. So, Fertzilla, Bumper Nugget, Christine, and either Obby or Ryan will be here. And then we got Fliptronic to come out as well. So, Jordan and Becca will be here. And we're going to have so much fun. There's going to be a lot of alcohol. There's going to be a lot of shots. We went through 80 shots last year in one stream of that show. So, we're super excited. And that is next Saturday. Awesome. Go ahead. If I may, my quick plugs are, yeah. I have a podcast. It's just another pinball podcast. That's on, if you subscribe to the pinball network, you can hear that there. I try to upload one typically every two weeks. And then I stream Wednesday nights 10 to midnight. That's Eastern Standard Time. It's never ended at midnight. It always goes longer. So those are the days I always stream, and I try to just try to get a stream in at least once throughout the week. Besides that, if I can do anything or if anybody has any questions for me, You can email me at justanotherpinball at gmail.com. And, yeah, I'm on Facebook. I'm on Pinside. I'm easy to get a hold of. And I think last I'd have to say thanks to TWIP. TWIP supports us, or at least they have their promoter's database. They've been awesome. They support us, which has been incredible. And feel free to review both me and George on that. and then I know both of our machines came from Zach at Flip N Out Pinball and he's been lending me Stranger Things which is awesome there's your plug, what about Just Another Wife podcast, I got her on one I got her on one episode and it was very well received I got a lot of emails about it but she's like, I don't know what else I can say she's like, I was on one I've talked everything that I could talk about with pinball, but I'll try to get her on just having somebody on who kind of reminds us all that pinball is both not popular and kind of silly is enough to make for a really interesting stream. For sure. You guys, thank you again so much. Have a great night. We're going to try and find somebody to raid and hope to see you all back on Monday or on Joel's stream. Joel, by the way, when are you streaming next? Last night. I mean, scheduled, it's every Wednesday from 10 to midnight, Eastern Standard Time. But otherwise, I usually, I don't know. Sometimes I stream Friday night or Saturday night. If my wife goes to bed early, then I just come on here and play some football. So whenever. See you guys later. Guys, we are going to head over and raid Laser Los. Thank you again so much for hanging out. You're still here? It's over. Go. Go. you _(Acquisition: youtube_groq_whisper, Enrichment: v3)_ --- *Exported from Journalist Tool on 2026-04-13 | Item ID: 612d682e-41af-4e12-89e1-5b519200d09e*