# 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters Qualifying | Day 2 | First Session **Source:** IE Pinball **Type:** video **Published:** 2020-06-03 **Duration:** 263m 4s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LHsINqvTGc --- ## Analysis Live commentary from Day 2 of the 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters tournament at Grant Line Games and Flipper Spill Underground Arcade in Las Vegas. Carl D'Angelo provides play-by-play analysis of tournament matches on Star Wars, Star Trek, Game of Thrones, and Sorcerer (modified with lock removed), discussing strategy, rule depth, equipment setup, and competitive gameplay dynamics. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] Attack From Mars Tilt correction made: the pill pop has been centered after 134 tilts reported on Day 1 — _Carl D'Angelo, tournament commentary - official adjustment confirmed by Josh (organizer)_ - [HIGH] Star Wars optimal strategy involves starting with Han character, playing Hoth mode first for video mode, then Tatooine as insurance — _Carl D'Angelo and Joe Lemire discussing competitive strategy observed across multiple players_ - [HIGH] Sorcerer tournament machine has been modified: lock removed, preventing multiball and plate of multipliers — _Carl D'Angelo explaining the setup: 'Josh has decided to remove this so no one can get multi-ball'_ - [HIGH] Game of Thrones has severely reduced ball save (approximately 2 seconds on Blackwater mode), making it very difficult for casual play — _Joe Lemire personal experience: 'the ball save of black water is about two seconds'_ - [HIGH] Star Wars Premium features hyperloop which makes the right ramp shot harder than Pro version due to requiring more momentum — _Carl D'Angelo and Joe Lemire discussing physical differences between Pro and Premium editions_ - [HIGH] Wireless streaming rig costs approximately $400-500 for structure plus $150-300 for three wireless camera receivers and additional gear — _Carl D'Angelo detailing rig costs: 'the rig let's see the uh the structure depending on how you build it you can get away with 400 to 500'_ - [HIGH] Sorcerer drop target timer is set very fast and makes the mode nearly impossible to complete — _Carl and Colin discussing: 'they are yes they do yeah I wish they wouldn't have turned on or had those uh the timer there on those drops so hard'_ - [MEDIUM] Jeff Parsons appeared on Pinball Players Podcast explaining Star Wars Han/Hoth/Tatooine strategy — _Carl mentioning podcast episode: 'I'm on uh pinball players podcast or Jeff Parsons explaining this exact strategy'_ - [HIGH] Star Wars in tournament mode prevents picking two modes simultaneously, which this machine allows (indicating it may not be in full tournament mode) — _Carl discussing code state: 'it allowed you to pick two modes at once which I unless they've changed it uh in uh in subsequent code releases you cannot play two modes at once in tournament'_ - [HIGH] Sorcerer factory version includes two star posts (one per outlane) that have been removed from this tournament machine — _Colin McAlpine explaining original design: 'Factory you can actually see them here they're the factory actually includes uh two star posts one on each outlane that have been removed'_ ### Notable Quotes > "You have no idea this game without a ball save is uh cruel" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, ~03:45 > _Commentary on Game of Thrones difficulty and ball save removal impact_ > "this game is not in tournament you can tell it's not in tournament because of the fact that it allowed you to pick two modes at once which I unless they've changed it in uh in subsequent code releases you cannot play two modes at once in tournament" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, ~28:30 > _Technical analysis of Star Wars code state and tournament compliance_ > "the hyperloop exists that the to hit to register that shot it has to make it up into the hyperloop and there's like an up kick ramp there... it makes a game that's already really hard and a shot that's already really hard even harder which I don't necessarily know if that's really a good thing or a necessary thing but it's a cool toy" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, ~23:10 > _Critical assessment of Star Wars Premium design decision regarding the hyperloop toy_ > "I think this game needs to be pulled I think so play Paragon instead" > — **Colin McAlpine**, ~55:30 > _Competitive player frustration with Sorcerer modifications affecting playability_ > "I'm happy to see so many other people have uh been working on building their own so hopefully the quality of streaming pinball in general is uh going to increase" > — **Carl D'Angelo**, ~40:20 > _Community signal about streaming innovation and infrastructure improvement_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | Carl D'Angelo | person | Tournament commentator, streaming/video producer, competitive player; host of the stream and primary voice throughout Day 2 | | Joe Lemire | person | Competitive pinball player; provided strategy insights and personal gameplay experience during commentary | | Colin McAlpine | person | Competitive pinball player; joined commentary mid-session to discuss Sorcerer strategy and gameplay | | Jim Belsita | person | Tournament competitor playing in Carl's group; primary player featured in gameplay footage | | Matt Anderson | person | Tournament competitor in Carl's group | | Sunshine Bond | person | Tournament competitor in Carl's group | | Jeff Parsons | person | Pinball strategy educator; discussed Star Wars Han/Hoth/Tatooine strategy on Pinball Players Podcast | | Nate Strass | person | Competitive player who taught Carl advanced Sorcerer strategy at Pinburg | | Josh | person | Tournament organizer/technical staff; made modifications to Attack From Mars and Sorcerer machines | | Grant Line Games | venue | Tournament host venue in Las Vegas | | Flipper Spill Underground Arcade Club | organization | Co-host of 2019 IFPA Pin-Masters tournament | | IFPA Pin-Masters 2019 | event | Multi-day pinball tournament in Las Vegas; this is Day 2 coverage | | Star Wars | game | Stern pinball machine featured in tournament; discussed extensively regarding optimal strategy and code state | | Star Trek | game | Pinball machine in tournament lineup | | Game of Thrones | game | Pinball machine with modified ball save settings for tournament | | Sorcerer | game | Classic pinball machine heavily modified for this tournament: lock removed, ramp disabled, drop target timers adjusted | | Attack From Mars | game | Tournament machine; tilt issue corrected between Day 1 and Day 2 | | X-Men | game | Pinball machine mentioned; Colin McAlpine played and aced it before joining commentary | | Pinball Players Podcast | product | Podcast featuring strategy discussion; Jeff Parsons episode covering Star Wars strategy | | Pinburg | venue | Pinball venue where Carl learned advanced Sorcerer strategy from Nate Strass | | Sony CX-405 | product | Wireless camera model used in Carl's streaming rig; available used for $80-100 | | OBS | product | Streaming software with instant replay functionality; Carl considering for upgrade | | XSplit | product | Streaming software currently used by Carl; lacks instant replay ease | ### Topics - **Primary:** Tournament Strategy & Rules, Game Modifications for Competition, Star Wars Pinball (Stern), Sorcerer Classic Game Modifications - **Secondary:** Streaming Infrastructure & Equipment, Ball Save Mechanics & Difficulty, Competitive Player Experience, Code State & Tournament Compliance ### Sentiment **Mixed** (0.55) — Generally positive about the tournament event and competitive opportunity, but frustration evident about game modifications (particularly Sorcerer's extensive changes and Star Wars Premium hyperloop difficulty). Appreciation for streaming improvements and community engagement, but concerns about equipment reliability and game quality/playability. ### Signals - **[tournament_competition]** Live coverage of Day 2 of major IFPA tournament event in Las Vegas with multiple players and games (confidence: high) — Official tournament with IFPA standings, multiple competitive players, tournament rule enforcement, formal game modifications - **[gameplay_signal]** Extensive discussion of optimal strategies for Star Wars (Han/Hoth/Tatooine sequence) and Sorcerer (orbit vs. drop target approaches) revealing rule depth and skill expression (confidence: high) — Multiple players and commentators discussing optimal shot sequences, mode selection, and advanced techniques like post-transfers and alley passes - **[product_concern]** Sorcerer heavily modified for tournament with lock removal, ramp disabled, and drop timers increased; competitive players expressing concern about playability and fairness (confidence: high) — Colin McAlpine: 'I think this game needs to be pulled'; Carl and Colin discussing drop timer harshness; multiple players struggling with the modifications - **[design_philosophy]** Discussion of Star Wars Premium hyperloop adding aesthetic appeal but increasing difficulty; competitive players questioning if the design trade-off is justified (confidence: high) — Carl: 'it makes a game that's already really hard and a shot that's already really hard even harder which I don't necessarily know if that's really a good thing or a necessary thing but it's a cool toy' - **[content_signal]** Carl's multi-camera wireless streaming rig represents community infrastructure improvement for pinball content; multiple other streamers building similar rigs (confidence: high) — Carl: 'I'm happy to see so many other people have uh been working on building their own so hopefully the quality of streaming pinball in general is uh going to increase'; detailed technical breakdown of rig components ($400-500 base, $150-300 for receivers) - **[operational_signal]** Attack From Mars tilt issue (134 tilts on Day 1) corrected by centering pill pop between Day 1 and Day 2; indicates active machine maintenance during tournament (confidence: high) — Carl: 'the only change from yesterday's games is Attack From Mars the Tilt has been corrected or Josh said the pill pop has been centered now so hopefully it won't be tilting quite as much they said there were 134 tilts on the game yesterday' - **[code_update]** Star Wars machine may not be in full tournament mode; allows picking two modes simultaneously, which tournament code should prevent (confidence: high) — Carl: 'it allowed you to pick two modes at once which I unless they've changed it in uh in subsequent code releases you cannot play two modes at once in tournament' - **[community_signal]** Pinball Players Podcast featuring strategy tutorials (Jeff Parsons on Star Wars); community knowledge-sharing infrastructure supporting competitive preparation (confidence: medium) — Carl mentioning Jeff Parsons Pinball Players Podcast episode on Star Wars strategy; players consuming content before tournament - **[competitive_signal]** Advanced techniques discussed: post-transfers, alley passes, backhand drop target shots, nudge timing; reveals high skill ceiling and competitive depth across machines (confidence: high) — Multiple discussions of specific shot sequences, nudge timing, flipper control techniques with clear progression from casual to expert play - **[venue_signal]** Grant Line Games and Flipper Spill Underground Arcade Club hosting IFPA Pin-Masters; represents professional tournament venue capability (confidence: high) — Multi-day tournament with formal game selection, modifications, standings tracking, and streaming infrastructure - **[product_concern]** Sorcerer's extensive modifications (lock removed, ramp disabled, drop timers aggressive) fundamentally change game strategy and difficulty; competitive players questioning design choices (confidence: high) — Carl and Colin discussing multiple modifications; frustrated player commentary; Colin suggesting game should be replaced with different title - **[design_innovation]** Wireless HDMI camera rig represents technological improvement in pinball streaming; Carl's detailed specifications enable replication by other streamers (confidence: high) — Carl's comprehensive breakdown of rig components, costs, and recommendations; mention of multiple other streamers building similar rigs --- ## Transcript foreign [Music] got it Clark is it Clark Clark got it first a uh oh what what just happened good morning welcome to day two of the ifpa pin Masters here at Grant Line games and flipper spill uh Wonderland arcade we are on the we're gonna be watching my group this is Carl D'Angelo uh we're gonna be a little live and commentating today so uh people are going to come in now on chairs um yeah so we're gonna get started in just a couple minutes how's everyone doing this morning I'm a little line of commentators because it seems to people have a little too much fun last night maybe here in Vegas we'll see um standings can be found at ifpa pinball.com golf I highly recommend anyone coming to Vegas go to gorilla Sushi if they wish to have all you can eat sushi while they're here 26 dollars for for dinner which is not a bad price I thought okay let's take a look at the standings as of this morning this is just for this session so we're going to be following myself Jim belsito Matt Anderson and sunshine Bond so this is these are the standings only for the people in this session right now the full standings can be found at ipapinballs.com all right Jim looks like he's finishing up his warm up on Star Wars which is where we're starting Target value of 200 million um the only change from yesterday's games is Attack From Mars the Tilt has been corrected or Josh said the pill pop has been centered now so hopefully it won't be tilting quite as much they said there were 134 tilts on the game yesterday 134th yeah the sound is always kind of low on my streets I don't know what I'm doing wrong to get the audio levels quite high enough if I push them any more than this then you start picking everything in the room and the uh and we start to blowing out also this is the one area I feel I need help in is the uh the audio all right Jim's getting ready to play Let's go to the game so the predominant strategy that's uh come up on Star Wars seems to be start with Han play your first Hoth mode so shoot the Hoth shot three times light it play Hoth get your video mode and then next shot the hot is a multi-ball in the chat room yesterday someone was saying to play Leia and then just lighting the various modes would get you to the 200 million that you need but Jim's going to do exactly what most people have been doing pick on light tattooing missions and the reason for Tatooine also is if you get out of Hoth if you don't get the 200 before you're hot you can play that one Tatooine Mission which is a minimum of two shots to finish it and then you can be in the Tatooine multiple I like to try to complete a hyperspace hurry up Dragon Ball one that way I have an insurance policy for ball too because on this on the plunge you'll get a an award and Jim's done and I'm up all right I'm hoping I get some other people on the mic in between their balls and such maybe marz a day goes on so sorry for the lack of commentating yeah no one's everyone that's here is pretty much playing no one's just sitting around all right sunshine stepping up this play for looks like I need to adjust the camera a bit the player cam Josh sounds to me like he's gonna be loud on the mic even though it's far away oh I'm getting uh getting someone else here so if you want to sit here you can do this stuff uh just the Escape yeah it's still escape button to uh get rid of it welcome Carl how are you doing I'm doing okay this is Joe Lemire fresh off of a nice one on Game of Thrones perfect way to start the morning and get to watch Star Wars I feel so bad for Jim from this last night yesterday yeah it's very me down it was indeed it's a then again that was not unique to him no it was mean to everybody yeah the game is not not nice those outlands are cruel well it's funny because as I cursed Sunshine right there oh see what you did because as usual like everyone says they see this part they see this score for uh golf and they're like wow what that seems so it's so easy I think it was a local player just wandered in here right like oh 200 million I'm like and then I was like you have no idea this game without a ball save is uh cruel what player are you I'm player two I played my Hoth like on my one hyperspace ready to go so excellent I should have another on The Plunge in the next one along your way oh boy my uh my hot water ball did not last very long yeah because it has a broken ball safe see those really short plungers can go to that right outline when I was testing out the uh the soft plunge during practice I was having it it was making it right to the left flipper I did it for the reels the first time and I swished the in Lane I was like okay that's problematic the biggest deal that was made when I was playing this is that I more or less had to go I had to go down the middle for like 250 par 6 without having to move that's right yeah yeah I'm wondering if that had to do with the fact that I absorbed two video modes at the same time double yeah I remember you talking about that gave me more because I knew that I should have deserved to have two all right so that was just that was Jim's um skill shot video mode right so he still has the lighthouse there's a perfect way to do it you're still looking the lighthouse I should say thatron is so loud seems to be the only game you can hear it is yeah we're not that it's bad what did you just play on Game of Thrones okay you done already I got a one awesome yeah how'd you do it uh I got I actually so I accidentally I had one shot left in Greyjoy and I had to make a save I accidentally started my uh black water but I got through it and got like four Jack four supers all right and I didn't I didn't mean to do it but it happened because again reduced ball saves so the ball save of black water is about two seconds yeah seven that can go away very quickly and it's not casual so that means no out of all so yeah that's what I'm thinking of going Martel yeah yeah he's got a good streak on yeah times three profit it's gonna be like 40 16. nice okay are you sure enough oh my gosh it's too early to talk awful mothballs oh nice nice man all right see if you can pick up uh a lot of points in this it doesn't seem like there's that many in this multiple you have to get to the you have to get to the University of the left the spinner builds What It's Worth right so like base it's not worth anything but that spinner is so hard to hit on this game and it's over that's over unless he can hit that and then get it hold it yep yeah it's like grace period there I found out the hard way that that's time too if you don't spell Force it's time then it resets back to original force all right yeah look it was such a good on the grace period he didn't even get one of the balls back oh things are trouble there we go all right left ramp do it oh that would have been big if that had left if that had lit Endor with that multiply that would have been like another 60 million it's division three is the mission three yeah the Hoth is the video mode correct and that's why they're picking Han because Han starts with two of them done all right so we're going to see the Tatooine Mission here this is what screwed him yesterday because he got stuck in this and he couldn't get out of it really yeah because he accidentally picked this instead of the the video mode because he saw the um good value on that on the Tie fighters oh no what's he gonna end at it's not high enough no not quite I don't think get him Killer [Music] oh he got it we got it can you have the chat I don't know I don't know why what someone would pick Luke in this setting honestly [Laughter] Star Wars so fun oh boy oh boy wow so it brings an interesting question so right so does it validate when you soft plunge because yes it validates so if you swish it down the middle from the plunge you're done yes yeah fun uh ew what lovely choices I think I go light mystery there the rest is not really worth much shot multiplier so what do you think of this uh is this the first time you've played a premium no it's not no I don't normally that ramp is it's possible to hit but this one's not so bad oh no well that just answered my question just watching this is dreading he's dreading having to Play It Again my main strategy on this when I'm playing this is okay what is the real estate difference um well I mean the main difference is just it has this hyperloop and the big difference is that because the hyperloop exists that the to hit to register that shot it has to make it up into the hyperloop and there's like an up kick ramp there I'll uh like junkyard or Champion Pub so it does need more momentum to go up that and it has to be a cleaner shot than it would otherwise on a pro and due to the hyperloop being there you you lose the link gate and the up Post in the back so it just it kind of it just kind of makes it harder I mean it's a neat toy but it makes a game that's already really hard and a shot that's already really hard even harder which I don't necessarily know if that's really a good thing or a necessary thing but it's a cool toy but I could say from last year in uh States I had the ball fly out of the hyperloop after getting it in there and went straight onto the outline so and there was no compensation for it so I personally am not a fan it just it has screwed me multiple times so what is what was your main strategy on this Carl what you're watching okay don't miss pretty much ma'am yeah it's just the physical difference there's really no real difference even even the way that hyperspace multi-ball works is the same and on the pro you lock a ball between the lock between The Outpost and the link and the link uh gate and you knock it out you get a ball the only difference here is that the ball is in the hyperloop so if you can get another ball in the hyperloop you get another ball so it's more or less the same thing the only difference is in the Pro it releases it from the hyperlink from the link gate and then it plunges another ball and then you have to put it back in so it's pretty much the same and that's pretty much my strategy was just doing the uh lighter mode strategy and then take the video mode when it was available which actually I'm on uh pinball players podcast or Jeff Parsons explaining this exact strategy which ironically then had to play this today yesterday yeah I forgot to listen to it last night I meant to it's already up really yeah Jeff told us he was in the chat yesterday it was stressful because he was watching on the stream and I was like well and we were about to go up and I'm like well we'll see if the thing works or not thankfully it did oh yes the exploding egg that everyone loves to make fun of Tina right here is just go for hop go for that wizard mode some points out of it unfortunately it is one of the easiest ones to get to but I think it's also the hardest least lucrative of the wizard bugs obviously by purpose because of that because it's weird this is the I don't have a u car but like when playing this game I find myself I really never shoot the right orbit I never shoot Tatooine and I never shoot the left or the left orbit for the thinner shot so when I finally get forced into something that makes me do that I'm not prepared she hits oh it looks like she already has it so she has her at a ball if you complete the force targets you're the punch it button will turn orange and if you hold it you'll get a ball save I've lost my profiles unfortunately right now she has her multipliers turned off as well which can definitely happen when if you don't know to hold it down and then you accidentally hit the button again and then you find yourself turning off your multipliers without realizing it and you don't have a lot of time to breathe on this game so you might not notice that they're off now thankfully she's able to trap up so now hopefully she'll turn them back on yeah puts it on the big three hits the right ramp starts her hyperspace hurry up and then drills the Death Star that should go a long way to getting her to the points she needs so many statuses I know this is like the pull like you play other games you're like I would just like to know anything no it's not going to show the scores you see that it went to instant info oh yes it just restarted it's not going to show we had that issue with pit masters of Maine uh with a bug that came up and it wouldn't uh I would say just lock in the multiplier shoot that right ramp and hit the hyperspace and assume you have it hopefully all right yeah just that's what I was thinking the mode light points she's got it with bonus because we saw her bonus was 20 million two more tilt around 14 million oh yeah she's got it there yeah that's why it's just lighting modes is so lucrative on this game if that was multiplied huge points this is where you're gonna be seeing a lot of it and that's one of the main strategies in this video mode what do you think of this video mode here I don't like it oh really certainly one of the better ones I feel like at the park here for a little bit more because we're backed up because we are waiting for Star Trek now [Music] hurry up take the hurry up Carl y yes it is very lucrative if you just light this if you light modes and you don't collect them I mean if you don't play them so say you hit Endor and then you ask and then the main thing is if you like if you like tattooing on the plunge which you should be picking pretty much no matter what character you pick and then your main goal is to hit Haw three times hit end or three times hit Death Star three times don't play any of them and if you accidentally hit one of them you pass so that that each mode is worth say 10 15 20. 25 million when you complete it so if you multiply any of those it can be worth a lot of points and as you can see he played his he played out of turn so he's obviously dq'd for that and boom oh this is not in tournament mode interesting didn't know that your entire town is playing around I I I learned this at pinburg last year because of how ridiculously hard that one was in one of my friends Nate strass had told us showed me it and it is legit if you do it before literally it gets you 300 million just for not just for life well the way is in a head-to-head situation I just figure if it's it's a foundation of points and on this game a foundation is very useful and valuable because of how brutal the game could be and it doesn't stop you from doing what you'd be doing anyways because you're just shooting the shots you're giving you're lighting all the modes so you have all the options and then after that point you can just play the game now however you feel fit to do so I mean like on this one pie fight is really not a valid strategy because it's that you oh you get TIE fighter at 50 which is at least two hurry UPS which you're just simply not going to live long enough to get there on this one that's a nice shot Carl that's why you're one of the best in the world uh I think it might have been it might be three for tournament but this game is not in tournament you can tell it's not in tournament because of the fact that it allowed you to pick two modes at once which I unless they've changed it in uh in subsequent code releases you cannot play two modes at once in tournament and also be able to tell if anyone lives long enough to say if it doesn't get passed if it gets past 10 multipliers then it is all 10x multiplier then it is also non-interm all right I am up on Star Trek I'll be back when that is over all right uh back on the mic here thanks everyone for your patience with the commentators okay so Matt's got a 4X multiplier here he could get some very good value out of this he'd be uh he knows it this could this could do it for him he's gonna get the perfect bonus even though it's not worth that much nice that that does it he is done so that's a four for him right Amazon it's much better than yesterday well I think I told you about it um all right let me get the groups updated here so we're gonna we're waiting on sorcerer a bit and I have the ability to show other profiles here I don't have my full software sweet up and running so it's just the the featured group but we can watch their sorcerer game for a bit let's see if we can find out what the standings are this is a bit right thing without the lock on this game so anyone that didn't watch yesterday the lock there's normally a little piece of metal here that stops the balls for the lock so you know you shoot the ball off the ramp it sticks there and you lock the ball Josh has decided to remove this so no one can get multi-ball it also means no one can get the plate of multipliers no one can get the demon lit to hold the bonus you are stuck either shooting sorcerer letters or shooting for score on the targets or trying to get your bonus advanced so I think what what we're going to try to do what I'm gonna try and do is whenever it's on this flipper you can backhand it into these targets just keep doing that and if it's in this just shoot the orbit to build up the multiplier once you get a full set of drop targets down it will light one of the in lanes for three bonus advances so what I'm actually going to try during warm-up is see if I can alley pass it and how safe it is if it comes down like this or if it comes no not like that or if it's good it has Stained uh you know potential to go up and over because once this is lit for 3x I don't think a lot balls kind of roll roll up here stop and then roll back down so you're getting a double click that would be six advances on your bonus your bonus Max is at 59. so 59 times 2 times 4 times 6 times 8 it can it can build up very quickly yeah the glare is unfortunate today it seems the uh where the sun is it's it's just reflecting up we have all the lights off with the lights on it was a it was much worse so again anyone just coming in this is day two of the ifpa pit Masters here at Grant Line games with the games uh being hosted by The Flipper spill underground arcade club I'm Carl D'Angelo um I'm the only one on the mic here and there hopefully I get some other people to sit down occasionally as they play like Joe came in when he was done with his game standings can be found at ifpapinball.com golf unless you're watching this archive the couple years down the line and then they're probably gone let's see watch this ramp yep just shoots through you'll get you don't get any points for it so looking at the Target scores Ben is in the seven range right here so he'll be getting a seven three cameras on the rig all wireless wireless HDMI last year I brought I want to say at least 20 cameras if not 30 and it was it was just nightmare setting up and then tearing down at the end of the day trying to rush out of Vegas to uh Beat the Traffic back to LA this Wireless freak is so much nicer I'm happy to see so many other people have uh been working on building their own so hopefully the quality of streaming pinball in general is uh going to increase and of course I'm always welcome to share whatever I do oh that was a rough drain there by Chris looks like it was probably simple so how much does the rig cost the rig let's see the uh the structure depending on how you build it you can get away with 400 to 500 the cameras I'm using Sony cx-405s you can get them on eBay between eight and eighty and hundred dollars used sometimes three of those then you need the two I'm using two Monoprice Wireless receivers those are 140 each and then I'm using a nyrus Orion for the third one because you can't run three of the modern price devices together that nyrus devices 150 I think then you've got Associated cables to plug them in I've got three battery packs running on that rig um they are 30 000 mod battery packs they will last about 15 hours they've done a little more so I had that up what are we at I've lost count but then you've got the other end so you need a I've got also got a receiver Tower because I these devices need line of sight or close to line of sight the the signals Bounce Around the walls well enough that they don't need exact Limestone but you can't put them between walls um so I've got a tower to get the signals over the heads of everybody that's another you know just another 20 or 30 microphone stand or uh I use a speaker stand for model price and then you need the HDMI capture cards in your computer so it adds up it adds up pure retro thing so sub so I can pay the bills thanks all right Jim's going to take his warm-up so the first game will be we're playing players one and three per the IPA rules to prevent tilt-throughs on the classic games so this will be a gym followed by sunshine and then I'll play after they're done with the with Matt thanks call around pinball I appreciate it honestly the rig I think is cheaper than the computer because you you need you really can't run maybe you can but three USB HDMI devices it's it's tough so you can't really use a laptop you need a desktop and a sub thank you just another girl yeah I'd love to get a uh a laptop somehow with with reliably with uh at least three HDMI cameras and then I could just use USB for the room shots and such it would make this more affordable I've actually got another uh rig I picked up to to make it more affordable I've cut everything into 18 inch segments so that I can carry it on a plane or check it as package welcome backhand pinball welcome back all right Sunshine's still under warm up here so this game without the multiple is I mean It's a Grind before with the multiball but it's less of a grind now without being able to do that it's it's just honestly boring to play exploring to watch so thank you for your patience as we watch the sorcerer yeah it is easy to upgrade to desktops more than the laptops of course I know I've changed the machine this is running on quite a few times I keep trying to get to I want to get instant replays back in my streams if I'm using xsplit it's not quite as easy I know OBS has a has better functionality for that I'm considering that uh I forgot the other name the name of the other software the high-end software um I've built this thing with plenty of Headroom I'm running on a thread Ripper 12 core processor for for this thing all right here we go Jim do you really want to plunge that far right lane to get the drop Jenny immediately get to 10K completion which like I said oh he's got two completions now so his inlanes are now a triple bonus advance there's there's a three and a quick drain unfortunately all right joining me on the mic right here is uh Colin McAlpine welcome welcome back Colin thanks Carl feeling good just came off an ace off X-Men nice nice how's uh what strategy is everybody using here Jim hit two drop completions pretty quickly okay yeah he's got 108 just one drop completion is nice well played using the backhand to the drop strap no he he was very specific in the plunge to make sure that it would plunge into this Lane oh nice you got some very nice bounces so the rig is easy to pull apart oh yeah I thought so bad I think she accidentally I mean it's so tough to tell how to nudge those when they're going in the outline area here and I think if she wouldn't have nudged it hard off that post I think it would have settled in the in Lane but unfortunately that extra nudge she gave gave it a little bit too much juice and uh you know carried it over into the right left outline therefore so back is a gym for ball two after 108 000 ball one which is really good on this sorcerer this very bastardized sorcerer that's one way to put it foreign all right let's see so Carl mentioned that Jim has this uh this skill shot dialed in as far as getting into that Lane right there yes he does and that sets you up to possibly get some drops he wasn't able to complete them but um still not bad points given the expected value of a lot of people are just shooting the right orbit over and over again to get it back up top that's really only giving like 1 000 if you get one lane plus you know one quarter of a bonus X it's still not a bad strategy but you then have to survive the feed back down from the pops and hope that you get it back on your flipper um that did not happen so much grinding for so little profit Joe speaking from experience yeah yeah me too I I took a five on this yesterday and I was actually happy to have a five yeah I think I got like a seven on this yesterday it was uh hitting that even the post-transferring over was pretty sketchy most of the time oh no see it's so tough to read that outline I mean you think it's you think you're safe and then you're not and then you are and then you're and then you're dead because it's so much lower than the sling first you're walking up and you're looking at it you're like oh wow look rubbers yeah yeah as useful as you might think indeed uh I think Factory you can actually see them here they're the factory actually includes uh two star posts one on each outlane that have been removed and so you can see actually the little hole and the slight circle around it right there that there used to be a star post right there and also right there on the other side I think at least on the left-hand side there's a star post there with Factory so that's gone and the main thing that we've probably already explained to everybody is the uh the ramp does not work essentially it works physically you can shoot the ramp but then they have uh they have played around with this up here where it will not settle in there and give you any points nor locks so that's why it says locks are set to LOL the gate there I actually saw a couple people shooting it just to get a feed to the upper flipper so Carl have you played it yet no I'm up next I'm gonna do some shots I'm gonna try to practice oh yeah oh I hadn't considered that hmm although now that I know that because we were wondering we played this yesterday we're wondering how you lit those inlands but apparently like Carl said earlier if you had to complete a set of those drops would run hard and time out immediately yes yes they are yes they do yeah I wish they wouldn't have turned on or had those uh the timer there on those drops so hard I think given that the bastardization they did on the on the ramp I think they should have left that timer alone it's a little Overkill okay he didn't get the lane he wanted so he's not going to get some pops into the drops got it on the nice nudge see that's the key nudge in the skin to get it out of the outline areas just giving that upward nudge off the top of the sling so it stays completely out of the album area that was really dangerous that was not intentional I think he was trying to backhand into the the drops up top but I think he went late people have been saying saying about doing that but everyone I've seen attempted it's been really squirrely so I don't know if I I will attempt to do that myself or maybe Carl will convince me otherwise when I get to watch him next bonus sex he's now to 2x it goes 2x 4X 6X 8X so it counts up by twos that also that dead Bounce from the right flipper is not very friendly it is often deadly there it gets 0.5 K uh you can get it off of fast dead bounces uh fast moving Ball but a slow moving ball will go promptly down so he has one lane lit because he completed one set of drops and so that gives three bonus advances so it alternates it looks like with some sling or some type of switch hits we'll alternate that all right shots to the left I want to see it come on come on Jim do that he can of course he can but of course he can oh he's going for sorcerer layers we're back into the drops and backhand drops Jim so yeah he's going essentially left flipper he's going right orbit and right flipper he's trying to back in the drop so that he's been late twice so on Lanes there's also a little switch on this rubber right here that when it hits it it changes the lane as if you hit your flipper to change things exactly really yes oh I learned something new I get screwed a few times by that and not knowing that that was a thing and then it changed on me and I missed the lane yeah so you see last time Jim went up there he didn't flip he didn't try to change the lane because he was assuming that was going to change it wait so why is he shaking it and maybe it's not resting quite on the uh that's resting perfectly on the supposed to be looking at them he's looking at the right flipper yeah the button's a little sticky I found at least oh gosh oh there oh wow nice nice nice nice nice Jim belsita right there geez so he is giving up on the backhand because you know he almost drained twice doing it so he's now post transferring over to left and going back up the right orbit for some more bonus X in which obviously he tried it again that looks like that that maybe he's wondering if that flipper is dying because that looked really weak did not look very strong at all yeah because earlier you could make it all the way up to the top to this rubber right here without even hitting a drop and it would come straight back down I think clearly I think this game needs to be pulled I think so play Paragon instead yes that would have been better let's see how's my group doing no my group is still playing okay I was having a lot of issues when post-transferring where I would have enough momentum because it would start going up the left in lane and then I would try and shoot the right orbit with speed did not work out uh sorcerer down the middle still Jim's not in bad position here he's the three balls he's got 340 000 and um you know good good position to get a four here which I would definitely take a par in this game nice you got oh I thought maybe she'd get some action up there in the drops so here's a question for both of you if if the post transfer is squirrely it's 50k okay it's brilliant it's can't backhand would you consider from the rate flipper shooting the ramp to feed the upper well I was just gonna say that was very I mean that feeds that flipper nicely look at this and she's gonna get a nice shot oh yeah okay just as I said it I cursed it I'm so sorry there she's a few people were doing that and I was considering possibly doing that from the right because of how difficult it was and the other options so at this point her her EV is good enough to be going for those uh nothing but bonus advance yeah because she's at uh 2x with 19 000 so each Advance would be 38 000 more points I think that she's real yeah that's the one thing the ramp will not do the ramp will not give you any bonus X right it's this this shot right here is so much more difficult because of that fat yeah yeah if I'm going up top I'm post transferring getting the left flipper and going the right orbit even even with its you know inconsistency in terms of its difficulty to get it all the way up and it's a shame because this post is designed you know they put it in to stop ramp shots not to stop this shot well they also have this this big rubber that's in there that's squished between two lanes that also makes that ramp shot even harder right on the left so we get a nice reflection here of the uh the streaming rig from above underneath that uh silhouette of the fluorescent light so I think my next project for this thing is a scrim to go over the top of the of the rig oh wow yeah yeah that's that's a good one of those nice umbrellas right yeah it doesn't yeah it doesn't impact your your footprint of it and yeah that that then blocks out everything over directly above it right Carl D'Angelo the one who saves Expo glare but oh okay good night Sir all right he already has 2x so he likes some bonus sex at this point not bonus x-ray he'd like some bonus in advance and you get that from Lanes the sorcerer targets also Advance bonus no okay well you definitely don't want to shoot those then how many letters would you two need to oh there's that non-dead bounce how many letters would you guys need in sorcerer to make the decision to purposely finish it one yeah it depends on or if they're adjacent the ones that I the ones that I would avoid typically these three so those three are typically the death ones if they're the upper ones if I'm on the left flipper I will go ahead and shoot for those they're early shots and they they will rattle around and not necessarily go directly to an outline sense nice nudge gets it completely out of the Inland outline area and post transfer right orbit yes Jermaine I'll move around one sheet of invisible glass or a Stern HD glass or whatever so that's that switch that just changes yeah I need a Stern HD glass sponsorship or an invisa glass and infinite patients by the players to allow you to constantly go oh just falling short that's that's frustrating all right I'm gonna go check out my group all right good luck thank you apparently is the motivation I need because I want to do this so I'm playing really well so I don't have to put it I just got two on Star Trek son this is everything's coming to bases three letters three letters left but she's got the hardest one still this one the most dangerous one so I wouldn't ah nice nice orbit shot there and that's why I'm worried about the shots that that right there I'm worried it's gonna go up and over yeah let's use the language here please he's Canadian Oh Oh I thought that was that got it all right nice nice to not nudge there I find that that top letter is so hard to hit on purpose yeah you kind of need to bounce around here yeah to get it you kind of need to be going for the ramp to get it by accident well if you want to do that you can go for the uh you should hit that post and then rebound into it all right all four 20K let's hit the 20K what he needs to do is he needs to get find that right plane he's been hitting so well and get those drop targets and call it a depth yep not much it's a practice on Black Rose all right we'll be back good luck Joe looks like I'm losing all my commentators right now because I'm gonna be playing very soon I will come back as soon as I can alright cool thank you Jim has got it it takes a five yeah for for these older games we only play players one and three to avoid tilt-throughs that's an infpa Rule and this is an ifpa event run by the FBA it doesn't mean you have to do this in your own event it's just that's what they do on their events where's your where's your score oh they might let's just glitched out for a bit okay 319. so that is 319 oh my gosh 320 was the cut off so she got a seven all right I am up I have to go play sorry about the lack of commentating we'll be back unless Jim let's step on the mic yeah if sorcerer memory was on people would go for the uh spinner so that that all right Matt's actually a little spinner and the so spelling sorcerer lights your demon but you only get one shot at it so if you miss it it's gone Demon's a whole bonus it's kind of a shame that the memory isn't so he's got this with bonus as long as he doesn't tell right he's good okay let's see our goal for Game of Thrones is uh 150 million I think players are going to change their strategies today yesterday everyone was going kind of with the Lannister Greyjoy Blackwater stack I think you're gonna see a bit more variance on that today I know I'm gonna try for Martel myself it's good to see the sorcerer treated you well were you able to back in drops yes yes that is doable but very early on the flip it's very early on The Flipper it's weak and I hit the uh the rubber sometimes it just comes right back down okay it's weird all right I'll hold you responsible at the end of the day when I have to play them no don't that's actually how that's actually how I'm uh that's my last day last game of the day allow it um what am I saying no um find it in your warm-up okay did you shots couldn't do it okay okay good because I tried but I couldn't do it I was a little disappointed I didn't get a chance to see you try and figure that out all right so Jim is player one I'm player two have you been hitting the 913 have you been going for the skill shot no see I found that going for the skill shot it bypasses that rubber so you can do the normal catching okay I suppose this is true they're both ideal I don't get to see firsthand what Carl decides to do for everyone doesn't know this game is in casual mode uh which means that you are forced to play as house Stark and you cannot pass houses when you play modes so he's the first time he hits that regardless of the what he does the first time he hits that middle ramp he's gonna start Greyjoy yeah it's a stupid treasure everyone else is playing it so I really don't have a choice because it's so he's deciding to get his Martell ready so that he could uh play that 'd be interesting to see if he's just if he's determined to play out his modes and play Martel at as well as he can do without even going for multi-blow because the multiball is also much harder because they've reduced the ball save so you get like three seconds of ball save and then after that it's over there here we go it's gonna go mode instead of multi-ball interesting that's an Uber and up the middle boom nice wow all right clearly this is the strategy that everyone else should be doing is that got him to score right away it's done it's okay he has it foreign nope you figured out that's the thing that is the thing very nice not having to shoot the log targets yep very smart that's the way I'm glad I got to see that granted I got a one but I did it the way harder way I was actually surprised that if you didn't if with that I didn't realize that you would be getting that kind of value with just 3x I figured that after your orbits that you would when you trapped up that you try and hit the middle to get the next multiplier so then the next one would be multiplied right but you clearly knew the math and knew that if you had just hit just well did I did I have it before that last Greyjoy shot it said your Martel alone was 157. I thought it said 120. no it was like 157. all right but that's why I got the sword first I made sure to get that so my I don't know if that makes a difference or not to be honest but I made sure to get that so the multiplier would start could increase I thought it but then I'm thinking they can go past I thought I could uh three by default or yeah I think so so then you don't really I'm in no position to tell you you're wrong I don't know that's the only reason I did it I honestly first time I'm trying that strategy so I just I thought you did it to transfer over it so that you could like hit a lock or something no yeah see like tremendous I think it was 117 not uh maybe just the shot was maybe I thought I saw a total it was above 150 but fine should be real clip it no don't clip it doesn't need to be clipped final modes at 157 all right yeah that doesn't make sense because you got you're at you're sitting at 170 with a tilt so all right X-Men time all right good luck ah the final shot was 117 maybe that's why I looked up and saw really all right so let's see what the gym pivots and does that now he looks like he was going for Blackwater yeah the sword is the Playfield multiplier limit it increases it but the question is what's the what's the initial pay for multiplier does it go up to 3x and if so then it's pointless to shoot the sword yeah if it starts at 3x then there's no reason to shoot it because you're not going to get with them with that a few shots you're not going to get over 3x I believe so if it is only 2x then yeah you wouldn't you would want the sword if it's 3x then never mind foreign Martellus lit and he's going to shoot the center all right three orbits plus a ramp should be done so the ball comes in a nice trap most of the time of course I just curse Jim didn't I um coming off the uh off the Habit Trail so I think the difference with Jim here is I had a um my multiplier was still lit on that left orbit so I increased it with that initial shot and I was getting lucky that the ball was staying at the top they're not coming around all the way all right he's going for the center okay once that multiplier and it's timed out now all right so if till Farm says it's 3x yeah I'm gonna say it's 3x yeah Esther's dad uh yeah you can uh certainly can't just combo creature properly wow look at that he gets oath keeper his random sword is worth so much all right Jim's got it I don't think I'm not happy about this game is the random sword value I mean in a regular game doesn't matter about this Infinity golf it's making a difference or it can all right Jim gets a two thing with shooting gray during those Gregory shots is I feel the uh the dragon shots a little dangerous if you miss it you're you're in trouble so that's why I think martel's a safer strategy oh and that's why you want to cradle up that ball coming off the Habit Trail instead of shooting the left Orbit on the Fly that was rough these swords are random even in tournament mode they are random thank you all right what ball is this Carl about three three or four try my attention has not been 100 on it right now but we've all shifted strategies now we're all going Martel oh yes that's what I did yesterday yeah yeah people people saw that and started doing it right maybe they need to do it already but uh yeah Martel is uh a lot of points and quite uh you know safe to get yes Carl showed it off masterfully let's take it would you Ace this hole Carl nice so with the Acer 7 under you haven't recorded that yet uh with the asum 700 very nice keep this up Carl you're gonna be as good as the 14 year old I think I think that's just 15. yeah it's like he won when he was 13 right putting up a negative from -10 hit the ram okay but unfortunately she lost all her combos she's not gonna get a big value here it's going to be decent but it's not big right that's what happened to the gym too yeah so that is not gonna get her to the goal with that mode alone Combo music here we go come on combo these shots nope like in comedy shots come on get it get it before it drives and it's dead stop but you can rebuild it with on the non-mode shots and that's what she's done she's got the 2x that's good uh see she gets unlucky yeah she gets the Widow's whale which is worthless you get oath keeper and you can get like 30 million yep oh nice save there and she got with the combo and a loft to boot so she'll take her 25 million from Greyjoy now she's got Lannister running is there a tournament mode on this that standardizes the storage not the swords no no geez interesting it's usually never you know that much of a differentiator right normal play exactly but 150 is your two star 200 is it 200 or 150 for this 150. so 150 is your goal though that uh multiplied uh combo multiplied sword can be a game changer extra ball which I think is 30 million and you can I think you can multiply the extra ball value on this one so oh boy she got some multiplier off of it so she's hitting her shots too cleanly now let's see there's her oath keeper if that would have been comboed she's completely two modes actually she could have that up to 5X all right she just needs 30 million she's on two dangerous so as you alluded there too so the how high your multiplayers go it's connected to your how many modes you've played the swords so you start at 3x let's turn to the max that's the max right that's the max you get to correct correct and then every sword increases it by one so she's collected two swords so she can go up to 5x modes light swords essentially casual mode gives you start completed so you have a sword ready to go she's gotta have this yeah she's yep good job Sunshine all right that was ball three as I say it with the question I guess that was so who's uh so Matt is player three okay wow look at those scores consistency welcome to here anytime you want yeah yeah yeah exactly I might have a permanent commentator for this round oh I need that wow talk about foreshadowing yeah we were just talking about you yeah the youngest world champion ever how's everyone doing all right watching some Game of Thrones yeah we're wrapping up Game of Thrones here congratulations on your score last night thank you 10 under that is happy with it not surprising impressive so in the chat room esher's dad was saying that Escher got the 150 with only Greyjoy combos yes uh with it being on casual mode your sword starts lit because it immediately finishes Stark so your combo multiplier goes much higher right so you are shooting the sword ramp first then yeah start with the sword ramp and then I can kind of like get it over to the other side and then keep the combo going by hitting the middle ramp and then hit the spinner it's a little bit scary yes I had it come from off the post and give me a power in Lane off of the spinner shot right okay and that was a little bit scary but then if you just hit the shots in a nice combo then it's way more than I think it was at like three over 300 million after the combo so did you not need the last dragon shot that was all right the four shots I thought it was 200 million not 150. so you are saying start Greyjoy shoot the right ramp well pick up your sword and then start gray Joy okay then you know what you want to do at the same time you don't want to start Greyjoy and then no you get because the swords lit immediately so pick it up before you go in so then that also builds your combo right because it said not your first shot's gonna be 3x rather than 2x got it I'm not doing it but yeah I heard you did the Martell thing which is I did the uh it's kinda alternate the it's the alternate I heard uh Robert gagno did his by starting two wall multiballs just backhanding the uh left loot 100 times in a row that's crazy that's my backup the backup yeah I miss that boat even worth 150 million no but I can bring in another mode with it yeah and do something but I do have to hit the dragon to start it so that's never fun maybe they didn't they didn't bother to reduce the uh ball safe for that for that five that's oh that's about it that's a 10. is that a yeah zero to 29 999 is a is a 10. oh boy oh man all right I gotta go move the rig I'll be back maybe well you're going you're up first I am up first yeah the game is open already so next game is Star Trek oh it's Star Trek yeah it's almost like a fair Star Trek I've ever played every time uh I got a jarian's like yep I deserve that but uh yeah very uh fairly set up very yeah which is nice to see normally those are pretty bastardized to make sure that it doesn't play long but like this you can get away with it yeah it's putting up because you know hundreds of Millions on it yeah it's only bad if they get the score on the first ball because then now you have to plunge the ball and that takes a while cops wait for it to get stuck in the pops yep watch it as you know you get a clean power and Lane feed and say man I wish I got that when it's like playing warm-up on like X-Men and lighting your Brotherhood and it's like yeah yeah yeah I'm on X-Men right now I got into started with my uh got my wool V and Sentinels stack yep it did not work out got five million after that yeah it has short ball Savers right yep so it does lemon X-Men jail so now I gotta live through some stand-ups yeah did you light villain by uh in Lanes or by by which oh the feed is super friendly if you don't if you leave your flippers down it bounces right over up the in lane on the right that's keep doing it it was way more friendly than we did it last year yesterday the scoop was shooting into the bottom of the sling and then right down the middle so it's a scary Strat but if it works now so Star Trek looks like two people have gotten it what are you doing here on uh Star Trek Carl I like the right the right three I like if I want to get super ramped so I want these yeah so especially since yeah I like actually playing prime directive I'm crazy I know that's that's my stretch the shots are everywhere so it kind of gets me I also like when you get your team team up or what team away team yeah and then just go through the Top Lane yep and then you can shoot your green targets to get to Klingon or exactly so yeah anytime the ball comes out I'm trying to get the targets um space jump I'll shoot one shot and then try and get the team the away team so that I can finish the mode just to get it done what is the away team for it's a single shot and two in that in the just finishes or that's it yeah it finishes it oh yeah all right I didn't know that you need one one shot first and then you can hit the NBA team so what uh he's at home he's a road trip so he's watching he's paying more attention than I am yes it also gives you your medal by one it increases it by one so generally you'll get a if you do that the one shot gives you the bronze for some reason and then that second away team then you'll get the um you'll get the silver yeah but we don't really care about that I'd say I mean if you're gonna get to Kobayashi I'm liking your chances of being above 35 unless it's like old code where you could get to Kobayashi at about 2 million right it was the boring code ever or shoot the scoop trap up away Team trap up yeah there's definitely uh yeah good change when that was made when Drake came on and added that to the game yep all right this looks like the last ball for this group unfortunately I don't have profiles up and ready for them apologies for that so looks like he's got his first set of locks lit this is his last ball so yep so that's lock one it does not look like he has his next set ready but he has the bottom green one to go so you can hit the spinner and kind of bump it off there's a lot too you can do it for you this yeah so now he's got to hit that bottom green Target to light his multiball so the timer's on five seconds for it says not Factory right I've never seen that before Chuck did that for a while and uh the wicked piss a pit in Massachusetts it's uh quite aggravating because literally you guys you got one shot at it and if it doesn't go around then it's like wow I've lived through that many stand-ups to get that I feel like I need the meme there of the the South Parker you know kind of interesting he's going the bottom row yep which is super spinner yes bye-bye oh nice nice beautiful slap slide save thing it's good I mean you can you can really move this yeah yes you can it's got uh I think really the only stern here that you can't really do much with is uh Game of Thrones I I think uh the afmr Tilt was uh pretty it has been uh fixed oh apparently I haven't been hearing it all day you're right and I was just talking about Sterns specifically yeah oh yeah he bounces getting very good value out of this boat yeah it's the uh away teams here it's gonna be huge if you can get him oh and his uh multi-ball is lit either lock shot will start his multi-ball so I don't really like shooting the world oh this one didn't stick mode is is ending now uh final shot yeah if he gets it in the scoop on the on the left he'll be able to finish the mode yeah start a new mode and start multi-ball yeah would you take the middle here no well you only need he takes the orbit I would not have taken the orbit although that was 2.1 million for that show it was okay why did he use that flip all right let's see at this point you just gotta get to multiball you get that last six million oh my God oh bonus bonus oh he did shoot it up top a lot oh my goodness oh no it's gonna be I don't I think it's like just short oh that's a bummer [Music] all right all right my group is up I'm gonna go play good luck Carl all right so they'll do their uh practices and get started see uh Carl's plan get the feeds and the trucks it's not a lot to test out on this game just to feel the shots out a little bit so save the Enterprise the uh Team Up is worth a ridiculous amount of points it's actually uh you could probably get it just in uh Justin Fabian Enterprise like that one spinner shot by Carl there was like a million uh 300. yeah the uh pinberg uh wait list sold out even faster this year a lot of people on the wait list yeah I'm in the booth by myself in practice not a lot to commentate on if you want to ask a question in chat I'll uh go ahead and read it my tea time is at three so after this finishes up uh I'll be uh doing my next games uh groups are by last name alphabetically so I'm not really sure but uh I think I might have I don't think there's actually any other L's so my dad is in here so I would be playing with him how do you get more young people in the pinball it's a good it's a good question but uh it's uh it's hard because you don't really want to like force them into it at all because they won't enjoy it you kind of have to organically get them to play like that's how I got into it you know my dad showed me how to play and showed me how it worked and then I just enjoyed playing it from then on so pinball mom is that a little Alyssa parks she's my pinball mode yeah it's uh it's like it takes a lot of time playing in monthlies and playing in uh a bunch of tournaments it's hard to say in it when there's lots of homework and work to do so all right looks like they're starting here Carl's going first starting with prime directive like he said so it looks like he's going for Klingon oh tough drain but uh you got good progress yeah being a professional fortnite League of Legends or golfers probably a little bit probably might get a little bit more money out of that so Carl you got some good progress yeah you're 130 your way 1 30 your way to lighting all your locks yeah so it's hard being in the booth Solo in practice today is the whipped registration day right yeah is that what they're talking about yeah sold out in two minutes oh man well two minutes means maybe everyone that was on there right away got to do it yeah maybe so I forgotten it's a valid play for the London's game yes but it says I'm going for the lock targets yeah targets I think count as a full right right so three so you can hit one lock Target and then train I think if you hit nothing else but don't take my word so I might as well shoot into the bumpers is what I'm getting at yeah because it's a little bit of a point a little bit of points and you have to bump it to get a safe feed anyways yeah so all right Jim uh it's not a question how to remember all the rules of games it's like the thing that I'm like it's like my natural like skill is I can pick up games and remember them just forever as long as I've played them a few times so how do you remember games I think I'm roughly the same way I read up about them I watch tutorials when they come out I reach the I read the patch notes I just I would say game knowledge is one of my better skills as well yep all right Jim has all his locks lit oh he does he does and he's having a good prime directive here so he kind of just wants to finish it up now and get ready to play multiball with a mode to keep shooting the prime directive shots until the time's up and shoot that final walk is it the final lock uh he's locked one ball I think so he's gotta hit two all right escher's Dad is advising me to continue with the short plunge so considering the excellent advice he's given yeah I take his word for it there is Esther's Dad it's not here I wanted the uh oh that was his last lock he did lock two all right so safety Enterprise with multiball yep Mike and his chances we get to see all the cool lasers for the cool effects so much nicer playing a premium because the scoop is really nice that feed so Carl needs or not Carl sorry Jim needs uh looks like one more black hole Target the one left ramp yeah and as you can see the balls Unfortunately they keep flashing so you can't see where they are and all these red lasers are distracting that was nice super double super his uh black hole is lit I'm liking his yeah he's got it he's right there yep wow wow he's way over yeah but it keeps on hitting shots so he can't tell if he's over yeah he's hole in one for Jim that was a great Klingon big bonus as well because good job Jim you talked about what uh what mode you guys prefer to start on prime directive as well I like the uh being able to get my locks Carl did that and hit his locks and I fumbled I think he was savable if I flipped the right flipper I flipped her off I like going to save the Enterprise to get the uh the away team because I feel like if you do well in that away team you can get the score by itself oh yeah if you get Nero three before you can get 100 times the score 10 times it but I mean if you're already through near 3am yeah so remind me what the away team is on the prime director it uh it's all about warp ramps yeah but and it lights the spinner to feed the warp ramp nope nope two million per but then it's like it's well over a million per shot yeah so yeah still not doing it no [Laughter] I don't know the the warp ramp alluded to me on this game yeah this one's the feed after the warp ramp is like wonky comes out like wide it's hard to hit but oh you got really good uh Vengeance progress there he just needs one more Target uh right all right right here to have enough punch it to uh oh thank you so it looks like I'm all right from Mars as well all right good luck all right get to watch Carl now stick to the plan it's got a lightest Klingon locked here by hitting the top green Target there the other two you can kind of Bounce to like if you hit the spinner good and then like bump but the top one you actually have to flip too oh we got the super skill shot though you can actually hit it from the bottom right flipper I think that's what he was aiming for there a way team nice shot so now the loops will feed into the pot bumpers and these pop bumpers are very active so getting good value from prime directive there he goes this guy's locked now good life catch into the spinner it's actually getting really good value gold medal got two more he's just got one to go and he even picked up a lock there as well he finished the mode though so now he's gonna he's probably gonna start uh his uh oh probably started uh uh save the Enterprise or space jump if you go space jump he's just gonna probably go like middle ramp away team and then finish it that's what he was saying he was gonna do but see how it goes yeah because if you go save the Enterprise if you think you're gonna finish uh your last lock pretty quick but oh slide safe all right yeah you can really move this thing all right so that finishes it it does so he was right I didn't take his word for it but uh yeah so we just got one more lock Target to go the light is Klingon multiball he punched it so he's got two more to Vengeance so that's like a backup plan but uh safety Enterprise and see if uh he uh away teams it to Victory I was sweet all right so let's just try and hit that lock oh come with it it bounced off of the top one into the lock yeah I know he that's the second one that's it's a nice occurrence all right he's even got his black hole lick I'm liking his chances here for uh a tube oh you already added a ball that spinner is the uh the money shot though because it's over a million for safety Enterprise Plus the Klingon jackpot so we hit it there one more to uh lightest super which is worth up to 12 million if you hit it on the combo so looks like he's trying to get to control here all right back ends the spinner so if he hits that side ramp it should be enough two stage oh almost okay so it's Super's lit he just has to hit any shot I think it's worth like four million oh he went for it he got it the warp ramp last second Super Jackpot plus the prime directive so he's he either has it or he's really close he got it right it's I was a sick finish there the uh the warp ramp super for the win yeah this game's really fun to play for fun uh going for Nero three because the score potential with having that spinner doubled uh it's uh it's great all right so Sunshine she's in prime directive no lock progress but Carl was in about the same position I had those crazy locks that the uh they bounce off the top yeah so Jim got one of those you got two of them yeah it was great because you had your black hole at right when he started so I didn't mean to hit it so early yeah it just kind of happens hey it worked out yeah he had a great prime directive though thanks lots of value how much is extra ball I don't know someone chat will probably know I think it's two and a half but you can combo it for five all right so that's the prime directive space jump so yeah so if you do the one shot you don't get a gold medal but it right finishes instantly yeah and that's all I was looking for I was looking so that's kind of the backup plan just to have uh super ramps in the hole okay you know in case of Klingon yeah you want to see how much it's worth and you can shoot 10 ramps for a million each right yeah exactly and then you can combo them for two million right if you Loop out the middle ramp does that count as a combo like can you just shoot the middle ramp over it's not a combo okay yeah I've seen uh there's like a toss-up between uh Nero three and Klingon 3 being like the big points but uh I like Nero three just because uh the modes kind of go well with the game progress because you do Nero one while you're lighting your lock so then narrow two while you in your first Klingon and then Nero three in single ball play so nice cut yeah surprise she's just moding out right now yeah good points yeah space jump is actually really good points with her first locks I take the middle one for the final shot in the mode too it's extra value is it extra value yeah you see it oh yeah yeah that's the shot she's gonna take the left one if she can because that'll start or next mode get her closer to the super ramps she actually has a six punches now so she can go right to what's Vengeance those lights seem like they were glitching out of it yeah I know she has six oh there they are yep see yeah exactly they're glitching um I probably should tell one of the sharps about that yeah yeah let me go tell Josh all right I feel like I've seen that problem before on a lot of Star Treks where the punches are a little bit off the difference between a slap save is kind of you just hit both flippers together or one side like really hard and that's uh and a slide save is you like move the game a bunch to one side so I know one's a little bit more like aggressive so she lit her vengeance right so if she shoots the middle it'll start Vengeance and she'll have five seconds to hit the ball oh and her Klingon is now lit as well so if she shoots a middle Vengeance takes precedence so it'll start Vengeance over Klingon right yes so I would shoot the left for Klingon yeah probably since we saw the Vengeance that's at the five seconds which is very difficult yep yep post Passover come on oh yes sir there it is and super ramps too so yes that's right all right she should have this here then yeah I'm liking her chances she's pretty far away from black hole but uh Klingon battle it's a ramp mode does it double your ramps or is it just like the million shot for super ramps because I feel like at one point super ramps were like double ramps or something or is that super ramps too maybe two I think that might be super ramps too because I remember yorian at Expo hitting eight million super ramps back and forth oh never mind her black hole is lit down there it is at a ball so she needs to find 10 million here with super ramp training yeah that's probably enough already yeah bronze medal yep yep she's got it so that's the trick to getting a hole in two on this game have very little progress but in prime directive and then do it all in ball too so Matt is in space jump to uh two lights on it's going on sliding is locked so just got to do another set all right so these guys final shot lit oh there's a uh Bowden term it's a last man plunging yep so does a gold medal give you more bonus in the silver medal or is it just a metal is Metals in general it's just the number of metals yeah but I could be wrong all right so save the Enterprise so if he goes with it or goes to prime directive or something else ah gold is like three to the count it says pure retro oh okay thank you thank you pure retro all right so now he's got enough to play Vengeance right it's just not really showing Adam's gonna look at it after uh yeah oh he's got a oh he's got he's got the pull punch it punch them all it's like uh does it work like Deadpool you get like a Mega Punch it or you don't even get to see all the lights on the Playfield oh Kickback nearly killed him he's got Locklin then yeah right oh man it's actually a kickback not a save because it's a premium and thus it's also drainier yes this is the geometry yep instead of getting a nice ball in the pops you get a ball out of control somewhere else and if he lights his next lock then you can go to Klingon all right so he just needs one more lock but he still has to light him in the green stand-ups which is the Fascinate that the Star Trek goes to the right coming out of the vengeance say again that the ball when it comes out of the Vengeance goes to the right yeah I know most oh that was a bit of Ensemble most of them try and go straight down the middle yeah it's because I think the ball instead of resting like on this side of the target it actually rests kind of in the middle or on the uh even if it runs right on the left I I like you know when I see it in there I want it to rest on the left so I'll jiggle it a bit yeah so all right it's got one more ball here it's all ready to go just got a light is Klingon locks or uh play Vengeance but all right yeah final ball so what what let's see what's he looking at here 35 million is a target um right now he's in the in the nine range in the nine range oh he just Liz Klingon locks he's just gotta hit the middle or the bottom like that all right so he started Klingon with prime directive so if he finishes this mode he'll have super ramps but he just started it so it might be hard to survive he just has to hit the black hole Target to light his black hole so it's pretty close but uh all right boss is still on so he's uh it doesn't look like shortened balls here it's like normal ball suit the pop bumpers are really active on this one I've noticed yeah just like it stays up there forever well his black hole is ready to go there's his super it's not doubled but that's all right he still can add a ball on the black hole Target do it now do it now do it now do it now oh he's got one shot at it well he's still pretty close he can if you can just survive to oh so close curse is real curse is real it's gonna be really close I think because he had a few medals I think it's gonna be just short it's like 32 or yeah 29 of the six he's uh just over the six though so all right time to move all right I think there's another group still playing Black Rose so all right got some time if you got any questions put them in chat and I will answer as many as I can next game is uh Black Rose though it's playing pretty mean it's a the ramps are hitable and the cannon is pretty good so uh yeah I love the lights up I love the lights on the Star Trek the Ellie the the photons on the on the side of the cabinet oh yeah you can see them from here yeah you can flashing on the inside and the outside it's a great package I feel like it's really the last it's not even that intrusive because no exactly yeah it's I I you don't notice it when you're playing but it looks really nice you don't see a lot of Le Star Treks no you don't I think the one that I played most of the times Ellie all right who are we watching here they're on last ball the target is 15 million one ship is all you need to sink you can use that right easy to say isn't it yeah so the cannon is really powerful which means it rejects a lot but uh my second favorite win was uh Northwest when I was 10 years old I took third and I was very happy and I the only reason I was in the finals is because I was actually in 17th and I was out but somebody snuck between me and another person and I the very last game in the tournament I got in I played well so yeah we stole your rig we're gonna try and build it now you're gonna have like the uh the phone rig where you can you know carry it around and it just like builds itself and yeah every 2.0 coming just to make it smaller yeah like I've been saying I needed to be uh able to go on an airplane yeah that one this doesn't quite this well this this half isn't bad it's the it's the rolling part that's uh oh it's it's um that thing's over 50 pounds all right shoot the flashing shot for five million oh he didn't shoot the flashing shot oh I just all right Black Rose you don't like it no not this one not this one no I don't like it in general man not my favorite game all right no matter how hard you pull the plunger it goes in the skill shot nearly every time all right so are you uh do you play modes or are you a multiball guy I'm gonna go modes this time I was doing multiball and I got nothing last time yeah I got it from I made it from the millions yeah the Rams especially with the uh with the uh the middle rejecting off of the cannon all the time sinking a ship is kind of difficult but uh yeah all right so he's got two more letters to go he probably just wants to play modes here he's kind of far from multiball and he's got no progress on the ramp looks like that's what he's doing this video mode is very difficult oh he did it McCarty yeah Garrett McCarty yeah howdy Garrett all right broadsides live for 2 million the feed from the middle scoop is good about half the time the other half it is not good at all so all right Carl you ready to play yeah Jim's going first yeah the wireless rig he rolls it around and it has Wireless receivers so he's got like a kind of a tower here and then he rolls around the uh like a normal ish setup and uh yeah and it connects to his computer and then yeah puts it in the xsplit so yeah the skill shot is seems like pretty easy on this one like you can full plunge and it'll go into it and you can short plunge and it'll probably go into it and so me parrots throws better so that's the good feed from the uh from The Middle but other times it'll uh go out of control [Music] I don't know this game too well I kind of know a little bit so it's pretty hard to get the ball from the shooter Lane to go into the like side ramp to get your modes and it's super tilting like you can get away with a nudge and that's probably it so nobody in our group could get it all the way up the side ramp from a Plunge so all right you can probably hear Tron it's the uh loudest game here I think there's a uh till forms post with Carl's uh setup so I can get something like the streaming one that ball looked like it nearly jumped over the flipper there that's uh that's probably really scary that jump jumps over that will be yeah very disappointing dream because there's nothing you can really do about it you kind of have to guard with the flipper but uh all right double broadside you can do it in double broadside how many shots is it it's I think it's well if you need 15 million goes one two four eight you probably have to hit five times I could probably four is probably enough and then I get points otherwise so but that Cannon is uh it's hard to get it to stick but you can sometimes hit the targets this one was a warding even like if you missed like if you hit the targets it would also give it to you sometimes I think it's supposed to do that but I'm not very good at this game and I don't know the rules too well so I'm unsure all right so one of the uh mode Awards in the middle is instant multi-ball and I think it's one of the middle ones I want to say it's the third one up but it's pretty hard to time so all the modes are not bad sir Carl I have a question so when you have like your award so like for double broadside right and you shoot the cannon it doesn't have to go in the middle there's other things that will give you the original Target the lit targets okay yeah all right you're player two I am player two all right so you're gonna ramp out here is that your plan I'm gonna just try and survive survive and that's all that play some modes hit some ramps play some multiball don't drain wherever the game takes me to get the flashing shots I'm just gonna shoot up the center all right what it gives me it gives me gives me that multiball technology yeah it gives me Millions I shoot the ramp it gives you video mode yeah the red button really really fast I miss and I yeah exactly yeah or you I fall in the water me parrot throws better I don't think I've ever completed The Swinging or the knife throwing all right I'm gonna let that settle for like yeah it's two days two two and a half hours should be good I think there's a ifba weight limit it's like five minutes is that what it is how are you doing how'd you finish up on FM the opposite of how I was playing earlier I started off with a one and two and then a four now I've put up seven on X-Men eight on AFM and six on uh Abra Abra yeah so you're like on par slightly above because the one and two help a lot yeah it put me one it put me one and uh one down below the cut line I was up at like food before that whole cluster happened so you still gotta games ahead of you though yeah you got two three three left yep all right Carl just wants to survive almost half the battle yep on the flipper all right Millions that's one of the good ones Carl seems excited good feed all right ramp time broadside lit oh okay he's still alive he's got plenty of time one million two million oh oh double broadside Ole Miss oh you missed he lit his lock on the drain though got double credit if he would have went up there I would say you should have gone for the ramp the canyon is really powerful on this one that's why it never sticks in the middle yeah I usually gonna start my multiball oh you can shoot that shot is it when it's all the way over does it so if you want to just survive the cannon that's where you put it yep that's a safe place huh it's uh good knowledge we're hoping that you would shoot the ramp with the cannon fit yeah three million plus double yeah it's still hard it's like shooting the uh the spinner on AC DC I could have shot the right one too yeah you get a slightly worse feed but relax your weakness that was that's great save I've seen warnings yeah it's a you can either get 500 000 in the video mode you can get instant multi-ball or you can get garbage millions and then lots of garbage for days so I want to say instant multi-ball is like this one right here correct so and millions is the top one very bottom one so all right Millions uh one of the good ones you need five ramp shots or so so five or four would be ten and yeah so it would be five oh most people are shooting the left front for Millions yeah they could hit the top upper ramp all right we're outside Carl's exact Carl situation did you go for the ramp keys to the kingdom she does oh oh okay we were clearly talking about well so that doesn't validate our our top class well seems like the millions curse is getting stuck in the cannon is not where you want to be skill shot into the slings getting that first skill shot is huge because then you get to plunge your double broadside yeah second ball not on this one though you're not guaranteed anything on the plunge it's really really wonky oh really we had uh when we played it we had pretty the only thing I had issues was you couldn't plunge it around and I was too scared to punch it yeah someone got too dangers after plunging that way and warm up and then we're like okay we're not doing that yeah yeah I had I was in I had just started triple multiball when I was faced with that decision I'm like yeah no just that's the ball in that position yeah so a few full plunges here he has like a good chance that it'll go in a good chance that it'll go into the skill shot and a good chance that it'll Rattle and then go to the right left out Lane right out lane so he's gonna find you right into it yeah Power plunge there all right double broadside can do it let's see if he hits it he got it because he hit the red Target that was lit yep double broadside so you just gotta hit the middle yeah I'm just practice on oh boy good luck all right that's the bad feed because it can't bump it over or it'll go down the middle so two million up the middle and then next one will be 4 million and then the next one will be eight million so that's it four million on his next one it's really early a lot earlier than people think so I don't think he can get the eight but he can definitely get the full oh it dribbled out that's a that's a bummer did he get it yeah you got it all right take those points halfway there so now you gotta find in our seven million or so probably six million it's got a decent bonus I have no idea how bonus Works in this game see people plunge and hit nothing and get a hundred thousand and people plunging playing for a while and getting five thousand all right this is one of the bad modes but let's see if you can get his 500K he did made the jump so 2 million up the middle or the gold Target I think correct me if I'm wrong this thing is evil very evil good point so he's guaranteed a seven but uh I think Jim's looking for a par here or at least under bar so Carl's gonna wait a bit so Carl already used his double broadside shot so you have to re-light it I think he still has it if he hits the cannon shot I I didn't know there was Grace Period and you got that 4 million yeah and you'll be done what's your what's your plan yeah yeah it's way earlier than you think way earlier so what's the plan Jim how are you gonna get your next six million or so yeah I know that it yeah so his plan I haven't been watching Carl but Jim's plan is he's gonna play his video mode and play multiball or well plunge to his video mode up the middle and then shoot the lock and then play multiple so Carl's in two ball here so neither wants to ramp out or um lock both of these balls back in start three ball pretty sure he's interested in getting to his three ball oh all right he wants to ramp out here so lights the sink ship well a letter each shot he only gets one letter but uh it's closer to that 20 million option it's a hard shot though very hard for that so thinking about his options looks like he's gonna go back to the ramp yep probably light is locked oh he's also got his video mode shot or is it double broadside how are you doing Deborah hey there Usher I figured I'd need some chill time so let's hang out on the stream for a second what's your plan I'm now playing Tron how'd you do uh are you player one uh yeah on player one I mean you did good on uh Abra yeah I got a I got a hole in one nice on Abra which I've been calling Atlantis all day because I love Atlantis and I'm just trying to give it some love some extra love okay so I hate Atlantis but I love Abracadabra so well that's perfect to each their own yeah what are we watching on uh sink ship where we are watching Carl grind out slowly on the Black Rose isn't he ball two though these are great scores for ball too yeah uh today yeah oh this thing is slaughtering people so evil just like that well at least he's got his we call that the Star Wars the Star Wars The Plunge to the left alley all right these guys unlimited Millions call that the Dreamboat yeah that one's good too oh yeah just hit all right three more times got it dialed in too all right Carl don't stress it and you'll get the score if you hit this shot yeah good job Carl I guess that's Carl D'Angelo yeah oh we hit it even one more time take that black rose well played Carl uh so what's your strategy on Black Rose not sure uh just survive play it get to multi-ball I had a strategy and then I changed it a lot this last round which helped me out oh yeah what was your strategy on this well everybody was going for the center shot up top the the sink ship shot yeah uh the scoop up top and they weren't like the ball would not stick the scoop at all yep they'd get it there but it wouldn't stick uh so I was like well forget that I'm gonna like single ball multi-ball all day like I was gonna try to just keep it locked in the lock shots and yeah and just hit some ramps get some points just make it make it a grind fast yep and that didn't work at all it just kept draining for stupid reasons so this last game I just hit for the center constantly and that was great talking about being in the center it happened to me instant multiball oh yeah Carl's ahead of me now all right sunshine just keep hitting the center that's the shot to hit yeah well she's in multi-ball now my opinion now you gotta ramp out no yeah oh man I told you if she'd been hit in the center that wouldn't have happened all right well now she can hit the center again Carl's probably got something to say about it because Carl likes the uh right now he's a right ramp guy found it finally found it I wanted you to keep on hitting and see what your combo is up to I wanted to see you just go for the next hour finally make something of this machine so yeah I was telling an issue that I thought I was going to do multiballs and like careful slow but study trap up and none of that ever worked I think you're are you playing started hitting the uh Center a lot oh look you're up I'm trying good luck yesterday for me that's how yeah yeah yeah all right bye guys so when after you play a mode and it says light broadside I know the gold Target on like the right gives it to you but does the middle also give it to you I don't know sorry you don't you don't know I I don't really like this game so I don't play it that much that's why I didn't know to shoot the cannon you know yeah in the proper location see I didn't even know like it could make it up ramps until yesterday so unlucky drain Sunshine she's used her instant multiball in the middle now so kind of all right gotta gopher and she's also played Millions as well so right so you're pretty much stuck it you're in in jail at that point right yep oh he hit it too and it bounced out that's unfortunate no double broadside and then a left out lane just Escape Star Wars with a three I'm happy Escape uh what's uh what are you doing on The Plunge in Star Wars uh well most of the time I was short plunging to get it on the flipper uh the last ball though um thankfully I didn't need it but I plunged fully because the wall was supposed to give me plus seven bonus X yeah I nailed it and it didn't it didn't give it to me didn't give it to you I mean but thankfully I was I walked off with my 200 but I was doing the math and I did the in I was gonna get very close and with that plus seven yeah I've heard things about the bonus X because when it's only 200 million that bonus you know that extra 20 million bonus can like really mean something you bet but uh apparently I also I also discovered something if you have video mode lit from your Plunge and you have your uh it's your last shot to light your Hoth missions if you shoot the video mode you will play video mode and you will not get to play your Hoth mission video oh it takes practice it feels it steals your video it steals my video yeah yeah I was really bummed about that because I did I I gambled I I lit my video mode on the plunge and then I I've gambled Against the Wall of Death until I got up to 7x swim and then went they went and played yeah this the fire button is not wow he got it did you do flippers flippers yeah okay I'll do flippers yeah yeah oh yeah because the fire button is not very sensitive okay I didn't realize you could use no don't tell no Plunge yeah so yeah that was very disappointing on Star Wars to learn that little feature of losing out on your your video mode or your Hoth mode video mode yeah but uh I'm still waiting to watch somebody I saw one person play Leia but they didn't they didn't do much with it I'm kind of I've heard people talking about Leia I thought it was going to be hot all day with how it's set up with the easy multi-ball especially with the Tie Fighter something I learned is that the button like the auto plunge on that one sometimes kicks it into the Tie Fighter hurry up Target just right out of the start so good knowledge all right so Sunshine needs a uh 12 million right now and she's used her multi-millions and her instant multiball in the middle so let's see uh what she does here well you just got a skill shot and hope that the bonus is enough let's see yeah all right skill shot so the side ramp goes up for see on video mode or she not play double broadside yet I don't think she's played double broadside she missed I think no no she did she did she had the uh millions and double broadside same stacker that I had oh yeah drained on the cannon shot so if you missed the cannon shot does it go away and you go to the second one I think it's still available you're right you're right you're right I didn't see her Miss if she missed into a Target or not I think she she tried to shoot the right ramp right ramp and then it didn't work out so all right the lock locks ready to go and that definitely yeah all right I think this is going to say that good bonus for hitting four gems it's the most hittable gem shot I've seen on a Tron all right another quick ball from Matt oh quick ball all right Jim you need to find 800 000 points all right his bonus last ball is 130 000 but I don't know if it holds or anything such a big bonus ball big bonus game yep oh how do you do that and you hit the yeah it's the same as the that hole in uh Dracula oh okay I didn't know that see that I'm learning things Josh sharp didn't know that either playing with him yesterday me and Jim were like why didn't you kill Paulie why is Jim still playing he doesn't okay you've seen it I think he was just like does he knows right he's got it now I didn't know about killing birds give you three million here's another thing so if you just saw it so did you know that when you go to start multiball right and it's got that animation up there if you plunge it right away it immediately kicks that ball out if you wait till the man animation is gone and it shows the scores again it waits like three or four seconds so do you want the ball immediately well assumingly if you if you if you have one that you can plunge around the upper Lane you can hit that ramp like three times before that ball comes out okay so you do want to wait you don't want to immediately play yeah because if not when you get that into play that's gonna kick out so then you have to deal with a ball in the upper Playfield and a ball in the lower Playfield coming out at the same time okay which can is normally why this the multiball doesn't last you killed the bird though at what cost yeah and then you started multiple you missed the skill shot though like come on man no next time just don't even just plunge it and just all right are we on ball five or ball four ball four yeah Jim took a four yeah that's par oh the full plunge did not go into the ramp all right so what to do here Lock's lit so host pass and she's already gotten all the like really good ones from the middle so it looks like she's still got Paulie which was three million oh yeah well I always thought Paulie was 500 000 until now so there you go Star the more you know yeah all right wait for the animation load the camera you'll see how how late it takes for the ball yeah it was wondered why it took so long so if she loads the can in here it'll kick out anyways after this it doesn't look like the Cannons actually oh there it goes just went down get confused oh okay yeah another question is since you can't get the ball reliably around the upper ramp what do you try and do with it when you plunge it I was trying to show up plunger short plunge the left out lane last I know we called it we call it the uh Star Wars oh bummer all right wow double broadsides available there's something there's something weird going on here yeah yeah there's something there's a bad switch or something yeah it thinks there's a ball in the cannon huh yeah she got double broad oh when she plunged the ball going into the cannon I thought yeah it did but then when she shot it it didn't do anything didn't register yeah oh wait so she killed Paulie but didn't get the the million from Paulie but she got the two million so why did Jim get a million I don't know because black rose is a bad game oh maybe maybe he killed Paulie faster or something I don't know it's probably just random the treasure can be random to him sometimes too I don't know if this game is I thought Paulie was always 500 000 but unless your gym belcito unless you're Jim belsito Jim went down Jim why was uh your poly kill three million and sunshines was two and a half is it random still or so you got a million from Polly and you killed Paula so it's still random I thought well when you kill poly it's two million and then it's actually okay man random Awards in pinball so good yeah why can't they all be cool and just give you 500 million like attacks on Mars went to do the swing and oh my gosh I almost went over the flipper I saw that in warm up oh my oh my God this thing is so brutal you're definitely picking this tomorrow right yeah I get to pick games tomorrow I don't know how this format works I thought it was just gonna play more pin golf that you uh yeah that's what it used to be that that first one they ran here yeah you were like holes yeah 18 holes then finals was another 18. but you say but you saved your progress so you you did really well on the first two days so you were like so far ahead that you like won like really early double broadside all right all right let's get it again it's nice yeah it's way earlier than you think all right let's do another oh he went too early that's the first time I've seen that uh oh the insert the cannon of death it's a unlucky drain so he needs to if he wants an eight he has to get to Six Million so if he hits a skill shot he'll be at an eight then yeah so is there any other way to get uh sync shift letters rather than multiball you can get it as a reward from the video modes the video modes give you one yeah I think after your first one subsequent ones give you letters okay first one so they're not 500k which is super worth cramping up your flipper fingers away from a shark and then after that at least when we were playing it the second one was a spot letter and I don't think we saw someone play three video modes in one game fair enough I feel like I watched Keith Ellen do like the third level of the shark one in Papa finals once or maybe it was the second one he hit the flippers really fast for 500 000. so perfect yeah or you know you can get Paulie instead and get three million or two and a half million and do anything else that requires or you can just start multi-balling it's the most effort required for the least amount of return yeah oh nice lock oh oh no all right 9.1 that's a seven it's gonna be seven cannon shots give sink ship letters as well all right he needs two more to light his luck he hasn't used any of the middle Awards looks like he's gonna million yeah we've seen anyone go Millions Carl did Carl did like a boss he had like four more million to go and he hit them all in a row and they even hit one more just just uh just to make sure yeah I didn't know where and then he could have done it again but again he just let the ball go it was disappointing yep no he survived yeah it does take a while I see wow this was the actual goal during this multiple because there's all these flashes where are all the flashing lights for uh you're finding treasure or something but the real goal is to lock more balls yeah again and then what and then you shoot ramps to get letters yeah that's really so yeah what's hidden treasure it says five more for you can collect the hit it's like the jackpot in the game oh that insert is you can collect it's one of the uh there's one Awards oh I know it went all the way around that's incredible okay so now you want to shoot ramps he only needs to hit two ramps to light his the big shot oh boy oh does that give you a letter no no hidden treasure worth dozens of points I think it starts at 2 million is the base value for Treasure what's the jackpot in this game it says 30 million but it's a progressive jackpot sometimes you can get when it says you're gonna get the seven or yeah he's got it all right so the seven you got a seven all right all right you guys are going to X-Men X-Men is 15 million right oh yeah that game was uh super super cruel to me super cruel yeah I did the thing my biggest problem today and yesterday was get to the thing and do terrible in the thing yeah so someone said jackpot is lit by all the completing all the modes so Sunshine was pretty close you only need two more modes also if it's in normal settings you can light jackpot from the video modes from poly it can be any of them oh so yeah and it's actually it builds between games but I think it's set up 30 and it stays at 30 so which is more than you need buy a lot so this is your second ship value yeah it's like all or nothing it's like one million one million one million or 20 million 30 million 40 million big yeah the ships kind of make the rest of the game not matter yeah let's go like 20 ships in it's like most I've destroyed I think is five ships I think Raymond was telling me he was at like 5 billion or something 20 ships in he owned one for a while uh doesn't seem like a particularly interesting game out of like at a point oh come on you don't think you'd have fun doing that sinking dozens and dozens and dozens of ships just trapping up and just either you're doing left ramp and just yeah it turns into like monster multi-ball and scared stiff left right left oh you missed the left turn hit the left wrap again oh he recovered okay back to the left oh you're on the uh you're on the left liver post passive electron yeah there's a reason that you don't see it in any tournaments yep and then you know people are like oh yeah the uh the right ramp also scores 25 000 a shot and it builds these Chinese shoot but it doesn't actually give you the points so fake news yep it's worth nothing it tells you it's worth something but yeah it's not worth just kidding yeah it's in the opposite of isn't it like Twilight Zone or something like that when it says it's like five million greed it's actually 10 million greed it's this one it's like opposite it says there's some games where what's the other game there's one other game where it says you get a lot of points from something I know there's a bonus bug in uh white water or you can't trust yeah it's what the Bible says because it like carries through players or something yep Indy 500 that's the other one where it says you like the gift shop Awards say like five million it's it's not five Millions no it's nothing all right Andy so many bugs it's a pretty fun game you don't see it very often but yeah it is fun it's a fun game to play it's one of the games I play at pinberg every year when I see it so thanks for putting uh three players on so we know when it's practice Yeah dear God so blue it's very very blue it's not it's not the stream this is actually how blue it is I can confirm that yes this is the only game that I've seen everybody like be able to just hit the side ramp effortlessly like oh that was clean clearly you were not watching me play did you you couldn't find the you couldn't find the side room I think I hit it twice that's like twice more than most people hit it on mosaics man yeah oh yesterday when we were playing on it uh Jim was really close to getting a one on it and he drilled he drilled storm flew out the back hit the back corner he heard wood flew out of Beast right down the middle that's I've never seen that I've seen it hit so hard that it Rejects and flies back down the storm ramp but I've never seen it airball yeah like with a nice Thug yeah it's very powerful wow is that the new feed from the scoop does it always do that it has been doing that that's awesome the pops never feed into the scoop like ever I don't think I've seen one well we'll see it now because it'll do it when you don't need it too oh yeah yeah when it's like it knows yeah that's pinball best thing I love about this game is the fact that like it's still even though that's gone through multiple revisions since it was known that it did it is that whenever your blocks are lit they're still lit at Magneto even though they're clearly not yeah Game of Thrones is a 5.76 average it's a scary a lot of people don't know what to do with the Casual mode yes I remember last year's scene like oh it's in casual mode you gotta set ours to Casual mode yep and you're all welcome that we don't have any sound on the game so you don't have to listen to storm yeah you only get to hear the pop bumpers just the lightning is she not beautiful yeah do you not fear her yeah do you not fear so we'll see if people go for Brotherhood the Brotherhood feed has mostly been like bounce goes like halfway up the ramp and then comes back down and then gets you know double dipping so that's the uh well if with the feed you just gotta do what I did and then not fail at it yeah pretty much you could just keep putting it into the scoop bounce over go over a scoop pass over and then go into wolvie or you can light your Brotherhood and have your villains lit for the rest of the game could but the one time I shot that shot I died yeah so like always it works until it doesn't yeah this is practice this is practice all right it's not the game not the game I'm talking about practice all right this is real super skill shot to scoop let's see yeah these dude's doing the same thing scoop and then lightest villain 500 000 right isn't that the modern day ground Shaker yeah I'm waiting for the scoop to kick it down the middle on someone who's doing that all of yesterday really oh my God that magnet thanks movie yeah captive ball wolfy not a premium where's my moving ramp that's disabled yeah villain mod for Wolverine villain and uh yeah sandals yep sandals and wolves one shot away this Blackbird is also one away from being lit I think like one Inland and it'll be ready to add a ball I'm gonna go on a limb and say he's gonna do way better at this than I did oh no where were you at when you came out all right I saw it worse Luke no herniak oh uh oh it's already gone yep Luke nohorniak played both Hellfire Brotherhood and Wolverine and just barely had it there oh see you see yours was better yeah wow I did it yeah short ball Savers yeah the meanest new thing that they do especially on uh feel it more on some games than others yeah this is one of them I know the feeling yeah it's Brotherhood time I'm telling you brotherhood's the way are you just chucking up the middle eight times yeah do like a pavarelli and shoot to Magneto 10 times in a row did he do it he started Magneto like the captured ballway yeah he was so accurate on that shot I couldn't believe it did he get a one on black rose in the middle I don't know you should get a tournament with just games like that yep just middle games I don't know Raymond was so for the two saucers on AFM for his 1.5 billion and everybody told him that it was not worthwhile and he still thinks that can someone like back like two saucers on AFM is not 1.5 billion right that's like 1-1 yeah I mean I guess if you're hitting a lot of Bank shots exactly yeah a lot of damage could do it yeah and if it's on tournament mode it's five for the first one and then seven for the next so maybe but yes uh all right well the best is if you hit the uh Rogue shot off of the plunge I mean it doesn't go there all the way around and just dribbles out and then goes right out right Allen you're talking about this shot right here because it'll hit here and I think bounce right back it's like the game isn't made to uh it's like The Flipper isn't supposed to be strong enough to hit the ramp but strong enough to hit the the Rogue shot it's just whatever that I mean I I have never seen the geometry behind Magneto it's just something back there it just doesn't like being hit it's a flat Edge so if your score is flashing you can actually let the ball go in the wall this is the wall right here and so it hits it and it goes instead of there being some kind of a rounded rounded that makes a lot of sense so a good thing with short plunging on this game and not going for the super skill shot is if your score is still flashing then you can let the ball go but the moment you there it is yeah and oh nearly down the middle at least you could do something with that one so I have to go for Brotherhood and yeah at this point the Brotherhood feed for me yesterday was not too bad but uh it's the blue one on the right yeah and sometimes it goes like you can get double value if it goes halfway up the ramp and comes back down so I don't think of short plunging is you have to hit it pretty hard to get it to clear the sling on the bottom yeah which I don't know if I want to waste warnings on that yes this game is very purple blue went a bit early storm the loudest mode but since he's in the mode he can't play Brotherhood but I don't think he knows that but he's got Professor X and storm running please be ahead that someone recognizes that's what is that what is that turn is that is that the Terminator from Terminator 3 yeah that's Iceman no is it Beast what is that I don't know thankfully I got uh because it's like I have no idea who that is honestly this is it is that a professor oh you know what that is that's um that's uh psylocke oh you're right which is the Rogue shot yeah I hate that I hate the fact that they make you have to know the shape of someone's head to be able to make it like can you just flash that shot please yeah like please okay so now he's out of modes he can actually go for the Brotherhood he went early again it's better to go oh I can't say how many times I lose the ball like that where you're holding it you hold up the right flipper thinking you're gonna clear it yeah or you're gonna tip it it clears it and you're just screwed because even if he flipped with the left he would hit the bottom of the right flipper yeah see it uh I agree with the ZZ Top there that if you just ignore my uh my Wolverine and just go through your uh Brotherhood I'm liking the chances for a three or four it's not good for a hole in one but it's good for uh yeah but I mean you have the same problem with Wolverine as you do with Brotherhood so Carl the only time you hit the Brotherhood targets was the one time you were in a mode and it didn't give you any progress yeah I didn't think I was uh hitting up do you know which uh shot we were trying to figure out what your Professor X shot was no I have no idea I think we were I don't know anything it's broke I think it's roads oh yeah that's a great shot to hit yeah it's the best one you could get yep well short ball from Jim as well so you can't hear Brotherhood during hero modes no that's the problem that's the the road ah fine and more rules knowledge yeah so you just go for uh uh Gambit Gambit time how do you light the Gambit hurry up just bumpers x amount of bumpers probably I don't even it's not even through the pops right it's like there's a Target back there so what you do you have to light it and then it lights in that the B shot you hit the B shot and then you have to hit the pop bumper right I know that I know how to collect it you shoot through beast and then hold the bed up and help it hits that Papa but how do you actually I think there's x amount of bumpers because when you're in the bumpers it's him throwing cards and I think it's counting down how many cards yeah anyone how do you like the Gambit hurry up that's 15 million it's a lot of points it's it's the goal it's the goal yep that's like the billion hurry up on AFM oh my goodness yeah it is bumpers yeah all right this game is uh not being too friendly combos just get some help from Deadpool and yeah fine I think on tournament mode it's 15 or is it still time I love the uh the Deadpool mode on this oh it's so cool it's a cool concept underrated game I love this game I don't actually by far the best version too I don't actually enjoy playing this game but I seem to play it well so I feel obligated to pick it but then I don't really enjoy it oh wow yeah dunked on oh wow that's brutal oh yeah that's the kind of drain that scares you like it's like oh wow uh it's so mean it ain't right well it's very close there scores wise but it's uh looking pretty uh practice on Star Wars all right good luck on Star Wars plunge well so all right it's Carl's time to shine see if he sticks to the uh Brotherhood does he needs three more that magnet is not being very friendly he needs two more so he can actually do it in one shot he needs one more and he gets Avatar train or it looks good and then it's not good but he's one away so yeah that magnet uh nearly killed Carl as well so uh I was in the very friendly magnet to you either Carl but you're one away so yeah woohoo so you got something to look forward to sure I do Matt's magnitude I mean it's just whipped yeah I don't know why the magnet fired there did you hit a Magneto Target me I must have that's because yeah man magnets in pinball my favorite uh-oh oh my goodness just surviving it's hard to you can short plunge and three switch it but uh this one's a flipper like goes high so it's hard to get it safe to a flipper yeah yeah it is all right so he's got his villain lit now see if you can do it better than I did yeah scoop Cliffy the old Cliffy oh wow wow that's great so now I think it's about time that the scoop kicks it down the middle just because oh it hits the edge yeah right here and yeah and then down the middle instantly he got it boom yep all right you got no ball saver so add a ball yeah we gotta re-qualify uh-oh we got another hole oh no and it does not like to go into the Scoop from oh my I don't think I've seen it yet so forget it just shoot shots yeah just play it that was a mistake I think because oh that Inland was huge two stage no the two stage is so beautiful but at ball's ready so oh rejected oh didn't go in oh it didn't go in come on go in yeah you bumped it in well played all right so he's killing some Sentinels and he's killing some guards as well I don't there's the ball where's the uh other ball there oh he didn't get oh he did get credit for it and he got a grace period there yep five million to go killing Sentinels he's getting he's probably getting pretty close to Sentinels he's killed a lot because it lines up well all right that didn't give oh yeah that doesn't give you Pro that red arrow is not a wolverine that is uh Sentinels same thing with the spinner same thing with the spinner I don't know all right cradle separation and he might be getting close to Deadpool as well he's hit some pretty good Combos and unique combos at that okay he needs two million but he's really close to finishing Sentinels I think oh there's more so if he just hits a few shots here he'll get his final and that's two million right yep there it is he's got it oh I didn't know it's two million right he's got it yes all right he's got it I think it's uh uh uh 1.5 then it's that what's who's that mutant do you know who that is girl no I have no idea is that Phoenix we will never know we'll never know It's gotta be Phoenix I think it'd be a Mystique but I don't think she has a shot or oh does brotherhood count as Mystique I think I might good job [Music] took you a while to add a ball especially when it was lit it kept on rejecting and then needed a good bump into it you made it the Cliffy yep yep the The Wolverine into the scoop all right three more for Sunshine's Wolverine villain is not qualified I think there's cyclops all right Matt needs to stay away from the magnet because then did him dirty last time oh all right survive the plunge kind of all right trying to get to Wolverine stack probably at this point even with hero sacking on can you bring modes into Wolverine or I don't know I don't know I was uh unfortunate Rideout Lane all right yep Carl has one more to Brotherhood one more of the two blue stand-up targets right here he gets either of them it'll light his scoop to start uh his mode but you see his villain is lit on the scoop so if he accidentally hits the scoop he's gonna have to finish a mode before uh before uh playing all right he hit it of course you know he gets the double value and it doesn't matter and the Cliffy Rejects see if he bumps it in he did beautiful bump so he'll start Brotherhood here it's not guaranteed but he has a 6X bonus multiplier so he's got at least a million in bonus his blackboard's ready so that'll be good to you want to add a ball immediately with ball Savers being the way that they are he's in big trouble here if this multiball doesn't work out because it's probably gonna go to Shadow King got one shot and it's up okay so now his villain is not lit and he's already played Wolverine you got to go to Magneto that's the Last Hope here or Hellfire but I don't think he's hit any Hellfire so Magneto is probably your best bet here that's side ramp is awesome or Deadpool just combo out it's not a three-way combo oh that's a lot of points actually all right Professor X that's the same one as last time you thought it was Mystique so it'll be the bottom Brotherhood Target but it's definitely not worth shooting for or it might be how much is Professor X worth there's always an animation over it so I'm unsure I think it's 900 000. something like that his villain's lit though so he can play Shadow King oh he's gonna have a good bonus though because he hit Combos and he hit a super skill shot which gave him 6X so it's gonna be like pretty good or a million Shadow King Shadow King but yeah you hit a sick combo there though you couldn't miss but uh is my bookie a sponsor my bookie is an ifpa sponsor so what you're seeing there are all the ifpa sponsors on the uh from their website yeah since this event I have behaved yep all right so Sunshine still has Wolverine uh ready he needs four more to Brotherhood and the nasty power outlane so I'm just gonna go for Magneto that's what I think of yeah not quite he's got a little is it it's 15 million right so you need so you're gonna try and Shadow King combo yeah I'll try and you're also pretty close to Deadpool I think so if you hit some combos he might come in and help you out and help me out oh thank you foreign the DMD cameras fighting and Frozen yeah that's the one that runs off of uh Wi-Fi and it's I've noticed that because it just goes uh for some reason there's actually a cell tower on top of this building really so which I mean I don't think this makes a difference for that thing but um I like this uh one fourth of an FPS I can try uh wow it's not too bad you can kind of see the square okay so he's got his mode lit there it is so and his Wolverine's ready so sentinel's in the Wolverine here like that see if his stack is the the greatest slack uh in the group so you've seen it twice before neither time it's uh doubt nope did he get in the scoop no all right he's gotta go for that scoop get the scoop oh oh so close well he's still in Sentinels and he got a good amount of points from that so if you just play Sentinels he's probably won't get him there I'll get them close but he's also magnetoing a magnet really it is not on Matt's side today up the middle of the middle yeah even though it does not say it's lit on the middle it's a virtual lock so it still counts if he hits the other shots it'll also count as a sentinel shot so oh all right go get him Carl hey X-Men let's see this let's see uh sick Shadow King combo there you go or mode that could be worth a lot of points yeah Keith Ellen who did a perfect Shadow King for like 35 million that one time completely plausible yeah so it's only 1.3 million all right let's see if he Salvage the five here but uh it's looking like a seven if he doesn't get going do you know how many um there we go is this 6X bonus hold so that's actually double you got it here I got it because he's got four Heroes so that's a decent Shadow King time here we go he's good at that savior he's good at that Xavier shot yeah all right so he's got to hit any of the other shots right I think you can just go rounding it into Xavier is that the thing oh don't tell you can do one or the other yeah you can just Xavier out 900 000. Deadpool oh that's Ice Man what's up ice man oh and cyclops hundred thousand let's get all of them yeah just get it just get everything running 2 million man double dipping playing some Shadow there's no way he doesn't it's so easy when you never miss yeah oop Iceman oh that's one three there's no way he doesn't have it no right so definitely well I didn't see what his base score is but he like finished Cyclops and at Professor Rex and yeah he's way over it just showing off that was awesome he like didn't miss and Deadpool didn't even show up he's never there when you need him he's got his own game now that he has to worry about just trolling in the background yep good job girl got it done what they should have did well that well that guy was here was in yeah those calls for Deadpool they should have did a little code update on this and put his voice in yeah for Deadpool all right see if uh Sunshine can salvage a few points here and would if only I could hit shots like that the next might be a lot easier brother she needs three more on brotherhood that was a great slide save six more do the pavarelli and oh she has a oh yeah oh no that's gonna be a 10. she's only played Cyclone yep that's uh that's a 10. all right see if Matt can push his way to a seven you're right I don't think it does bonus hold not give you double bonus on the last ball I don't know and there's his Magneto with Phoenix and he's got a lot of modes played and done I'm liking his chances here it won't get the bonus hold value because it uh there's still a ball oh this is all fine so no I don't know I guess not you finished Iceman and cyclops yeah that was awesome for days Cyclops is worth a lot if you go Cyclops to shoot stuff and know things yeah it had an arrow on it I shot it ah your Hawkeye oh he's got a what's that Mode called the not Le so you don't actually see the shot that you're supposed to hit yeah it's just a shot just a side ramp right he's oh Simon ai's got it night crawler that's his name all right what starts Nightcrawler uh the Rogue shot oh okay I think you have to hit Rogue three times I want to say so it's like in between Rogue one in Rogue two yeah okay thank Carl to make you guys not have to sit here and look at us yeah see the everything that's going on see some sorcerer I see that lovely Star Wars I'm so glad to be done with what'd you get on it oh yeah do you R2 or did you Han I honed I uh I lit my Endor had my multipliers up pretty good and played my video mode that was worth like 60 went into the wizard mode did nothing in the Wizard mode I think I hit a couple Spinners and as the wizard mode draw uh dropped out I had the multiplier wizard money uh or no it was all in the final shot on that wizard mode I had it it was all built oh yeah one I hit a grace period uh at at shot that was worth like 150 million I looked up I was a 300 a.m I was like oh yeah is it that was the the kill shot and then one more to start victory yeah actually I don't know how many I actually ended up hitting but it because five Loops right uh uh yeah and then like you're tripping the atat the at at uh yeah I think it's three and then you get the Victory and I think I mean maybe I hit more in the flailing process but I think only hit one but it was like 20x yeah so it was enough because I know I was pissed off at how quickly it ended and then I looked up after hitting that gray Spirit shot and it was 300 million I'm like okay thank you so we're here at the ifba pin Masters uh 2019. uh Metro lefkoff and Joe let me work Joe with Lemire and yeah we're doing some pin golf day two that's the coast to coast guy yeah we should be over here yeah is he moved back or no he's still another one's from the last podcast I heard yeah miss him being in the states like this podcast yeah I think he's recording again now so he's had a couple episodes pretty good frequently very frequency so playing some afmr this thing's so brutal you can move the game now it doesn't matter [Laughter] at least it did for our group it was just so mean for us I play it like this the whole entire time because in warm-up I did a bump for my super skill shot to make sure it doesn't hit the wall and I tilt it well this morning before we started they did an announcement saying that they uh they centered the Tilt Bob because it wasn't centered yesterday yeah when I looked at it it looked it was all the way down and it was centered but it like once it moved it didn't stop for like 10 minutes it took forever to settle so once one person did a move it was torturous for everyone else so we're in practice right now you have 30 seconds of practice but it's not really enforced what was your strategy on this were you doing multiball total knowledge especially with trying to do multi-ball being on hard because uh it's lyman's code right I'm into this game I believe so uh when you have it on five balls it defaults to hard multi-ball settings so these are some sick combos this one I I don't know about you but I mean obviously you don't struggle with the same things I do but I I we have like three or four of these locally where I live AFM remix remakes and they all play different like there's yeah none of them play the same so I always struggle with trying to figure out what I should do on each on each copy yeah so I uh we own a normal one which is better I just feel like the shots are like I think it's nicer every regard except for how good it looks yeah it looks a lot nicer like this topper is like the greatest topper that's ever been made yeah yesterday I was really worried it would tilt me out it's shaking that's the only time where that's like a legit concern but uh I just feel like the shots are a little bit off from a regular AFM but uh yeah I always have a lot of trouble hitting the locks on the remix the remake or whatever reason Sunshine seems to see she's just proving I suck at pimples yeah but being able to Super skill shot five times uh uh the lock just reject I've never seen that before huh it's interesting but yeah being able to Super skill shot five times you can as long as you hit four shots you can get to the uh ta so I just feel like that's kind of the go-to Strat that most people have been playing because in normal multiball you're not really guaranteed that uh that 1.5 billion but in ta you can get it pretty easily the loot pass is beautiful on this one if the ball goes all the way around well actually because we were having issues in our game where it wasn't even making up to the pop bumpers on the plunge yeah I came over and increased the auto plunger uh Power don't think that was the problem though I think it was rattling like right here like it would bounce off and then like dribble out so I think they're hoping with more power it'll get out yeah faster but it doesn't look like it was helping from the warm-up plunges I think on ours it was about 30 of the time it would make it all the way around so yeah that could be problematic yeah so all right let's uh see everyone strats see if uh sunshine here I'll ask her she's right here sunshine are you gonna go for uh locks or ta it seem the first person I've seen that you're like you were really good at hitting those locks and more of what we were watching it we'll see the Jinx is on all right yep the only thing is that if you uh if you go for that and it doesn't make it around to light the locks you're dead yeah it's it's power right outline in there nothing you can do about it especially with the Tilt being the way it is I don't know let's see the Tilt no one shook it in warm-ups it's still tilty I think everyone's still pretty scared oh it was a uh alignment game because the default high score for Martian Champion was and it has wasn't this the first one that had the famous grace period was it isn't this the wasn't this I think this was the first one where you get that grace period where the jackpots are still available oh yeah minutes after yeah it's uh everyone says thank you it's only topped by one game Tron where you get an extra six seconds eight seconds to shoot your at a ball during Cora oh really so he's super skill shot it but did not make it around he did that too yeah oh you're right he did do Tron yeah he's the one who finished it off and made it all Mason nice and finished same thing with X-Men a lot of things come down to thank you Lyman thank you Lyman Walking Dead keeps on fixing all the bugs on Batman 66. yeah that's that game's so good I love that game it's one of the I think it's one of the best games you can like own after my dad won one at Expo we've been playing the hell out of it it's a great great game I get sick of that game there's just so much different ways of doing same thing with uh Maiden I love chasing after like high scores you've already seen it all man you're like the one person who's done that there's been a few people uh but uh for the first though right I don't know if I was the first but I did it early but uh the other thing I'm trying to get that 900 million death blow that's the that's the one you gotta have you gotta get to tomb Ward four and then three x and then hit a six-way combo into the revive spinner easy I mean if you can't do that I mean what are you doing for your life yeah yeah I don't think anyone's like done it yet it's because you haven't tried hard enough yeah and we took our alley inputs all the way out that's no fun it's like you missed a shot yep you're dead and there's nothing you can do about all right Jim's having a very good ball one here progress wise he's standing up for the billion hurry up gotta get that cow ramp you wanna take the under over on billion hurry up I don't know I'll let you know once he hits that cow ramp oh I've never been able to hit a cow ramp on any of them but I can actually hit it on this one let's see cow ramp they're taking our livestock and precious historical monuments here we go something like that oh there's been some actual Inland Edge on this one tried to loot pass it was a little bit early now the higher your is is it all relative oh but the higher your hurry up value the longer you have to build and collect it yeah it's it's it drops the same okay so once you have 500 million it like never times out oh my goodness he almost collected it there by accident I think he's saying to cash it out it looks like oh he'll cash 500 million just to be safe you don't need the billion but for style points under stream you gotta do it Jim no that's cool oh now the suspense was it enough was it enough no no he's two shots away from it though I don't see a world where he starts ta and his cousins so it's got to be close to being destroyed at this point you're right he hit it twice so he's either it's either lit to destroy or uh uh to either lit to destroy or he needs one more shot he probably wants one more shot on it because it gives you a triple nearly every time or he super skills and hits the car ramp and then that's that's how the pro would that's that's the pro move might not be the smartest move but you get extra style points for it yep it's like we're playing Mustang yeah the smart daddy catched out there he don't need the billion you just need points that's what greed will get you yeah greed gets twos playing aggressively gets you the hole in ones or the tens but all right so Carl's going second and Carl is giving it some time which is kind of very weird he looks really different yeah looks like an atom is there something wrong I think Adam's waiting for X-Men oh he's X-Men so maybe Carl's also waiting for that to Good Start man good start now you have a question you collected the 500 boo no no billion yeah super skill shot to the cow like a yeah it's like the chances of it going around are quite low but uh or you can you know normal skill shot drop cap out of the scoop and destroy the saucer and be done but that's lame it's like one or two shots depends on how many you got you hit it twice I want to say you should have gone for the billion it would have been way cooler yeah yeah take your two rather or hole into oopsie Carl just got screwed over by that he did the normal skill shot make it up to the bumpers well he didn't even get his normal skill shot yep yep bummer rattled out I think it's worse super skill shotting every time just because like it doesn't actually go around so you might want to just take your take the middle or your shot all right raping out I guess it's 50 million what this is gonna be yeah I like the the home ROM where you can actually get other stuff yeah I wish that they took a little more liberties with these with these remakes I didn't fix some of that do you prefer the mystery being the same every time because games like on Batman 66 like getting hold bonus after a big ball is like 500 million or you can get you know a gadget all right Carl you better get a billion here I'm gonna be so disappointed he's gonna do the 500 too no Carl's going for the billion Carl's a billion guy I mean I'm sure he'll take his you know 500. all right so Loop Cal ramp loop orbit blue pass blue pass what was that cheese oh no way oh my God that's a tilt that's a DQ yesterday like that tilts through that that's a that's a tilt today oh my God just take your breath girl take it take it nice breath okay jeez I hope he's shaking like a madman all right somebody what do you do do you just shoot Loops or do you like ramp out um I mean I try and ramp out but if you can get it all trapped then sure you can do that I like this especially I just like orbiting and then getting my super jets and my big issue is finding the lock shot like it's just yeah I mean with it's at one five you don't even need the lock shot he's got it so right yep he's got it waffarelli had a 800 million walk-off uh uh final collect it was great it was at like 3 billion but uh I'm gonna show up I was after a double danger save yesterday which was crazy so he blew on it but not a strong boy bummer good job but boo you didn't get a billion I know come on yeah I know it's like is Carl gonna take his 500 here he's like nope Carl's going for the billion and then he got screwed by the pups but you know good job good hole in one thank you now you're way ahead of me I still gotta play yeah you can the last time I looked you've got another round Colin was doing amazing which Colin McAlpine he's that he's at -11 right now well I don't know when he last put in the stuff but yeah all right well so we're seeing very consistently no one is going walks yeah which I kind of agree with how long how hard that shot being able to Super skill shot five times you're almost guaranteed a TA if you can like get a few that go around yeah mine didn't go around but it would have yeah you didn't Superstar so you didn't have the option to right I didn't want to Super skill but if I had I mean on the right I think it's worth super skill shotting every time just in case that it doesn't go into the pops because I don't think it goes into the pops very often yeah so you can drop catch out of the scoop pretty well yeah I've seen some mean bounces as well like to the sling to the outline well we'll see so Carl when you go play when someone plunges your ball we'll see the bound speed s oh my God that's incredible the brake shot onto the ramp it's the safest place it could have gone yeah Carl's if you need uh Jersey Jack rules awesome I'm glad I'm glad it uh my stream's helped yeah I got really excited seeing that video like wow it really looks like it's good and then realized oh wait no one has one all right wow nice two long shot lock that's the first lock combo I've seen so far so we didn't jinxer all right hurry up 100 million so loud hey can you guys like turn it up a bit oh yeah there it is it was that momentum it went just far enough up here yeah and yours just did that except it didn't hit the post right yeah right that was a good uh slide save though I still can't believe I got away with it I can't I mean I've played on it with a new Tilt and I well so we'll find out is he super Skilling and going for the ride or is he just no I think he's gonna normal skill and play it no he's super Skilling and so he only needs one ramp shot but his saucer's ready let's go oh true so if he normal skill shots oh it didn't go up that's trouble all right he bumps this is a perfect situation where there's there's two viable options 50 million okay now it's yep the kill shot's ready that should no he didn't get a skill shot so he doesn't have it in bonus right he's like so he's got to hit some combos here or something oh uh oh boy what's it called the the Scoops the random Awards 50 million oh no he doesn't have it done he didn't get his nose he's not there too yeah oh if he got if it went into the pop bumpers he would have gone yeah yeah all right let's see bounce feed actually uh Sunshine had a good bounce even you can't play bombers I feel like my camera got out of focus it's okay if it went into the Pop members you would have gotten in bonus I think it's it's considering how bright what yeah it shouldn't it shouldn't drift the afmr it feels like a drifted for sure fix it in between games I'm liking Jim's chances of getting an X ball though no he's going to rage until yeah just chilled out in the trough I think I slam till this thing yeah uh-oh all right so he's got two of them done oh boy gosh all right do you lose can you pass out the right yes oh both sides on both sides I mean your loot passes were a little bit off yeah they were this is the loop pass training game in my opinion yeah this is this is the perfect game to learn all the stuff and they're so important in uh because you can drop catch out of the scoot you can dead bounce it you can live catch on the side it's you got everything this is the perfect game to learn flipper skills on yeah uh Indiana Jones is also a good one I mean you're not shooting Loops very often but if you're playing the uh the tank mode oh nice nudge there yeah it was a very very nice nudge no dangers either so you can get it into the scoop that's impressive yeah clearly a modded on Indiana Jones so I can't really tell but I think she's one light away from her Martian as well what are the lights for you to uh one thing I don't like about this is deep enough well it's an option setting for what I understand all right yeah obvious of what's lit and what's not also in actually in the actual game as well not even on camera I can mess up a little bit it's kind of like like a ghosting LED yeah oh she's very close to Total Annihilation though so three shots yeah or two shots because the super skill shot make it to the pop bumpers and you'll be you'll be good if it goes into the pop bumpers so all right flip a coin if it's heads I'm liking your jeans what no take your take your it's 25 million plus bonus multiplayer but if he supers and it doesn't go in he's got a chance to take a shot at something oh you're right and he did sing sink his ship wait what sync his huh saucer oh sad when you're trying to figure out how to get 60 million points on attack for Mars that's just sad just yeah when you're at like well over a billion oh so yeah he does have to think if he also super skill shots into the cow ramp that's that's the best I mean best case even it gives him a safety you know safety net because if it does come down at least he's got something how much does it pay you if you're super skill an already completed Branch it's not anything I don't think it'll give you something it's 50. yeah okay better get best to get paid for something all right let's see decisions decisions decisions okay it should be yeah fleeing bonus Loop in this group yeah I'm getting the scoop exactly why is 50 million so much all of a sudden yeah three-way combo yeah that'll do it 10 million for the fleet that's the most it's funny that 50 million becomes 500 million all of a sudden but uh all right it's a pressure pingle good old I was the most restful 50 million ever but you're just super skilled yeah because then the shot you took right after you would hit the left ramp and that would have gotten your money if he had super skilled and you still came down you still would have hit the left ramp that would have been good job I think you'll get another chance tomorrow that was a good bump something catastrophic would have to happen yeah scary so he's got he's got to hit six ramps for ta it says lock don't shoot for it it's a trap yeah oh now it's only five shots one of the hard ones already out of the way that's that's how I lost a ball because I I made a save I lit the lock and then I died shooting at it private combo just left Orbitz come on yeah let's do it yeah I was we were looking at someone's compensation ball I was me and Raymond were looking and I said Raymond how did he get here right he has one shot to TA no saucers and the thing was still up and he had one lock but he was at 1.4 billion how did he get there one shot the TA one shot to TA one lock one lock no saucers no sauce no saucers and I know he hadn't played ta yet because the light on the Playfield was not lit but the five-way combo was yeah so he think he just combined out yeah looped out yeah good and then probably a 500 million combo there's your challenge for tomorrow um yeah today just just orbits just yeah and I want to say 10 Way 11 way combo I hear that orbit Loop pass orbit Loop pass orbit I mean I hear that and just assume it was Kaylee yeah I mean he's famous for doing that isn't he on uh on uh the story of uh what Spider-Man against Donovan and ifba he had two balls cradled on the uh all saved ball save oh yeah if you hit nothing you get a ball safe if it's not making yeah because it's not making it yeah because he did the same thing in like war machine on yeah and he uh yeah he hit the spinner like on Spider-Man for a million like so many times at the transistor on the left flipper yeah in disc and yeah oh yeah I did it again oh my goodness he's the only one that can do it and he's done it twice you have to it's not like it takes a while oh yeah you gotta be really comfortable yeah repetition yeah and it was like 1 30 a.m at Denver when he did it I mean that that I mean like they talk about like the discussion about do you fix One-Shot games and do you change the code to fix some of these things and being able to repeat a shot to that degree is certainly a skill yeah like your mind doesn't start drifting there's only like a few people that could actually do that on Spider-Man yeah that could actually do it uh Neil Schatz could probably do it sorry it's known for doing that if Keith no Keith couldn't do it Keith would get bored yeah I mean that was the main thing is he he'd just be like nope I'm sick oh it's up to a billion though it's getting close he's yeah how much is a billion yeah uh uh seven she gets to 1.2 it'll be a six between five and a seven now yeah that'd be a cool little uh trivia thing that you could do is uh show a play field right with like the progress and how did they get to the amount of points that they were at who done it how done it all right here we go come on Sunshine oh one round one ramp oh boy oh that's wonderful and here it is oh what okay come on I mean it doesn't really matter because yep okay again I think you can postpass on it it's a really weird post pass it like doesn't bounce it goes like straight up and then to the right no way no way no way not trying it right ramp transfer yeah I thought you were gonna say backhand I'm like no no I mean at that point you just go saucer it's okay the uh the plunger will feed to the uh right flipper God this wait to play sorcerer is painful is it backing up yeah it's such a grind it's so playable because there's not that it's not that tilty and it's kind of loose so you can actually move it pretty easily so but it's just so in so boring so boring you know what Carl our game is the reason that it's like that now we took an hour on it you love it when slings don't start all right Matt's gonna get a six here six yep that uh saucer shot was a stroke save the stroke all right sunshine has one shot to hit and uh the ramp gets a lot harder when it's the the money shot it's the difference between a seven and a five okay do you take pot shots at the saucer right now then to put yourself over that one stroke no you have to look in like the full perspective she's already a little bit behind so she really needs to make it to like a cut you really need like a good finish here so I mean if she gets the skill shot bounce over boom but yeah if it comes down the right then it's like at that point the super skill shot is uh just to make sure I get there yeah wow I went in the pop-ups all's coming up roses here it comes and new boom nice shots all right all right yep saucers good points 50 million once again demonstrating that she's the one here the lock Master oh come on she's probably hit more locks than everyone else combined yeah you got so much ball saver plus her saucer is ready to be exploded all right dirty pool dirty pool is it ifpa you're allowed to dirty pool yes you can yes there we go nailed it it's a five that was a very well played all right we are going to Abracadabra abracadabra not team one known as don't plunge the one yes because you're done one and done one and done yeah Abra could do oh no I love this game to create uh yeah it's really good they had one at lions for a couple years I think team one is the better version of the game I think if you combine the best rules from both of them together I think they would start yeah like where you know the completion sets are like not 50 000 like the specials being fifty thousand is like outrageous right because there's nothing else that matters but the 5000 isn't quite enough so it has those targets behind the drops right yeah uh on Team One to a spot so it's a little bit more skillful to get the one two three four five so much much worse theme so we are here at the ifba uh pin Masters 2019. uh it's a pin golf tournament we're starting practice now uh I need to tell Carl to move the camera up a little bit uh I'm Asher lefkov and I'm with Joe Lemire yeah and Joe's waiting for some sorcerer yeah this is gonna be so fun I can hardly contain myself I'm gonna go move the camera really quick or tell Carl too all right we'll be right back oh no way Carl there's no way Carl's gonna do this for reals or maybe he will all right so alley passing for the one and the four I don't know I think alley passing for the one is really important because I don't know if he's punched a one yet but it's leaning to the right I don't know if they changed it but it was down the middle there that's why the four point was landed on the right side of that bumper yeah so it is it's leaning pretty heavily to the right so or is it warped I don't know how can you tell the difference you can't tell man book come on what are you talking about that's Sugar Ray oh oh oh I want to see the one feet or you could do you hit that you could hit the one from the from below it's pretty hittable because the right flipper is much stronger than the left yeah the left foot certainly a little bit more that way than chatting it because I love chat singing I don't know about this one it's such a type because it's rubbers underneath those posts any kind of bouncing and you're in it's all about the the Thousand pops right yeah if they can just sit back there maybe like third pop is a thousand what what is it so that that pop is actually lit there's just the lights a little bit every other switch or every couple switches it's it Cycles from off one on both on I thought is it that one's actually I thought that one was off right now well I thought they were both on together and it's just that that light's being a little bit weird I don't think so I think it's just one and then both it seems to be in a three switch cycle that was a nice shot so the lip uh top like shot you can see him here like right there see it one's on and then yeah so they move on each switch hit and then they're worth this here so when you get a whole set down um like all 10 targets down you can hit the middle and it'll Advance the value by a thousand or if you get one two three four it also advances the uh that's it down the middle because it's leaning to the right Carl Carl's lap and he knows but um with 30 000 being the target uh you don't really need it to be much past a thousand like or two thousand no if you can just oh nice nudge that's like an outline at this point oh he reset his targets oh he had all of his targets down so now he's up to two thousand now he's just picking off targets oh look at that he drilled the 2000 worth yeah so that whatever the red light is on is what's worth yeah see I think both pops are together but that one's just struggling a little bit oh that slingshot gave him it moved it and collected them the 2000. oh one of Dooms oh the one and with it being tilt ends game it is very worrisome to nudge it out it does have a very nice it's tilt on yeah he needs to hit something that does sound like a valid strategy beautiful I know oh good yeah the the top slings these slings move it like the slings here in here and also there's uh switches in the pocket there that also move it good job Carl yeah you got it would have been it would have been a two but you got a one yeah stupid one you did a good job avoiding it for most of your game but uh so we were discussing this do you think it's warped or do you think that it's not level it's warped it's warped the field is Warped it's interesting yeah because it's in instead of that tends to plank up I thought yeah most games uh it's you drain ball one it was like a clean feed but you could see it coming down the middle oh yeah you saw the one that yeah what about it went up here or yeah yeah and then it like you see that path yeah yeah it took off we're looking forward to some chat singing yeah these shots during the practice I was trying but it wasn't it wasn't getting up it's not like I could only get the four and it has to be perfect yeah and yeah if you look at the uh the shoulder here it looks like it's this is it to the right of the yeah there's that little like there's a bump right this one there's no bum I think sorcerer's finally open oh he survived he plunged the one but he nudged it good luck on sorcerer shoot lots of right loops back handsome Target yeah yeah yeah it's still like I said go for the sweeps just just backhand that yeah oh boy he survived the one oh is his practice still Oh Oh I thought it was I thought it was real too yeah he's getting his punches down what initials do you put for your scores Carl Ted Ked okay yeah I'm uh ejl oh oh well it's not a real one whoa what was that it was actually went to The Flipper that's it it's a strange feat all right let's see this is the this is for real now oh that's uh unfortunate the three is also the really dangerous one yeah the two and the four are Pleasant usually because the four drops it on the pot bumper which is always good yes the Thousand pop is always usually about a 30-year score comes down to the uh Bob bumper so I've lost my player camera no signal it was lagging a little bit was it just slightly before all right I'm gonna oh oh oh there's a there's no way you can really predict where that one's going good slap save there you can see the warpedness oh it's gone oh that was a close one all right so now he's finally got a bond The Flipper see if he shoots it yeah it's you got it it's fixed he got the one which is really important because you can't really get that later for a plunge to it oh what ball is this he's on Ball Four now gotten some he had uh one out lane that was quite brutal where it was bounced like six times ah no two there but let me turn he doesn't have a lot of targets yet oh my god wow all right Jim this is when you got a salvage so he's looking at a nine right now if he can plunge the two I think that takes him to an eight does he collect the two thousand I think it collects to one thousand oh the one thousand yeah so but you don't want to punch near that too because it's gonna go to the one yeah the one is especially on last ball where you don't have to worry about tilting it's not guaranteed death all right he's across the uh eight threshold yeah next threshold is that uh Jim's getting going he's gonna get it he's gonna get thirty thousand Jim Jim gets these oh that was a risky drop catch it worked out because he got he's got one more Target two more targets uh yeah that feed the last time he's learned oh he's fine he's fine he's free now he can nudge as much as he wants be a thousand pop even though it doesn't look like it thousands of points good ones yeah he's fine I had a thousand points on that Target there see yep go for that oh but he's getting a thousand pops if he oh yes or no no there goes the camera no yeah yes no yes no no yes no no 24 000. that's crosses just over the six good Salvage there he was looking uh a nine or an eight in the face and he pulled a six out so um yep so the difference between team one and this one is that the lit one does not score once their value is in the middle and it advances and then the lit one scores the value that's you've had so if you're at five thousand then it's five thousand two thousand the lit ones two thousand yeah team one is a the role seem different and team one just seems generally like friendlier kind of their role or maybe he was that one that tpf this is a more interesting game for me yeah because it's um look at that feed from the one right to The Flipper maybe it isn't guaranteed death maybe it's the three in Disguise all along this is a little practice yep just getting each number ready looks like she's got all the plunges down right that's nice to hit on the three there oh it's safe oh yeah because of the warpness this game is a a lot safer it seems when it's going really fast oh that was close it's a good little slap all right I picked up for thousands oh that's right that's a good ball though good progress on the drop targets decent points yep indeed and by now all right here comes the one oh nope didn't go in the one we're not line of sight here that's the problem oh it's facing the wrong direction so it picked up the four there now she just needs the one to death oh in the Inland that's huge so now when she gets all of her drops down because she's only got two to go it looks like oh it's a pretty large save okay one two Targets ago it's like the top one on the right and then the second to bottom on the left right right and then up the middle and that should be enough or just a bunch of Pop bumpers will do it as well uh-oh oh nice nice he saves that targets huge oh it takes the one it's actually been pretty safe now it's like coming to The Flipper you don't trust it come on I trust it I'm I'm I'm on the one train now I think it's important enough at lunch that would be the Crazy Train oh I almost got that Target that bonus don't bump it out of the alley will do it oh just oh okay that is see look it's fine it's just a little bit close all right when it drains down the middle for you yeah you told me that there it is that was an excellent uh ball two two right yeah yes this is in Vegas we are at uh grandline games with the flipper Spiel underground arcade club in Las Vegas yeah day two have been Masters we're almost wrapping up this uh round and this will be it for the day once this round concludes there will be no no stream for the second half really really oh you have to charge the battery I know I have to leave so we have to leave I'm leaving where are you going places you're gonna be here for final Zone yes yes then we'll start back up tomorrow at 9 00 a.m 9 A.M 9 A.M not ten nine all right looks like he's starting now might be for real not sure yet nope not yet oh yeah that's the uh reset the ball yep so what happened to me well yeah you didn't plunge the one you shot the one that's your problem I didn't mean to shoot the one it kind of went in that lane well it's hard to shoot the one and then have it come back down it's usually you'll go to like the four or the three yeah I think that three is a lot meaner than the one because the one at least you get to The Flipper if you can nudge it but the three kicks into the sling and oh oh no oh no oh oh no he's doing uh good nudges here oh oh yeah it's leaning it's fine it's funny playing it you can adapt but uh watching it it's hard to adapt again look dangerous but it's just a little close right take his thousand uh just missed he just need he just needs the two which it's actually I think it's the hardest one again in lane four you kind of have to plunge it but uh wow it is seems like it's getting worse all right punch the two it's important oh oh oh oh oh oh oh you got it so you can see a thousand for completing it and now his targets are now are in his outlands are worth two thousands looks like he's got all the targets down except for the two on the left shoot it up top uh-oh yeah the sling sling post middle here that is completely fine all right all right so what happens to you look at that curve look at that curve oh reminds me of the uh Magic City from Papa it's the greatest game to play dollar games on oh that's very very oh fairy not Magic it's the ferry it has the Powerball in it right now right it's like the or did they take the Powerball on all right so he's really close he just needs to hit two Targets when he has the whole entire banks open uh oh there's the middle drain I feel like a slab save him might have saved it but that was the one drain that you're talking about Carl oh no oh it came at an angle if it comes out of it with some speed speed it seems it's okay all right he has to hit one target here or three pop bumpers five right yeah yep five yeah and you got it so he's good all right all right we get to watch some Tron now final game on Tron oh you guys started on Star Wars yep oh I'm playing soon all right Target score is 12 million and uh yeah what are you gonna do for the 12 million Jim what if I normally go for Cora life cycle stack or just Cora or end the line out so we're here in uh playing the ifba pin Masters uh 2019 tournament it's a Stern pro circuit event uh I'm measure levkoff and who just joined me is Derek Thompson I'm back Eric Thompson who's my group partner did you win the battle of the Derricks I didn't you didn't no those last three uh holes just killed me yeah so I've got to make a huge comeback today um but I had a lot of fun uh you're an awesome player but even an awesome even a better person so I really enjoyed that yesterday I had so much fun playing with you yeah and uh I thought it was really cool yeah got a were sorted by last names now so groups will change it up oh is that how it's going yeah look at you you got the inside knowledge eh is that is that for being one of the top players in the world is that you have all that inside knowledge and you know not really I guess not all right we're watching some Tron yeah what are you doing on Tron tell tell me your strategy on Tron light cycle yep and then just end the line and that involves Cora I think Coral will be lit but usually right when you start Cora you're like one million off absolutely so what you'll see some players do is that they'll go ahead and they'll hard plunge right in here so they get this one lit right away does it go into the gym every time yeah absolutely and you get credit for this one right here so you'll get credit on here then you'll be able to control it on here you may be able to go ahead and either post pass or it might even be on the slipper you'll end up going for quora you'll come up here and then you'll hit scoop so yeah you've got all sorts of opportunities there lots of opportunities and then that gets your light cycle going and then once you have your light cycle going then you've got that opportunity then to go ahead maybe in light cycle stack and go ahead and keep on hitting that yeah and just keep on end aligning and then double stack and boom he got you 12 million well you're used you're probably there by then because the I've been the side ramp is Right Where I think it is just you know playing other trons it seems Johnny are you uh you might uh group partner your M and I'm l so there's a chance that we're in the same group might be how'd you do yesterday you're positive seven you got to make a huge comeback like me right yeah get some hole in one if there's one guy that can do it it's this guy right here I tell you Johnny is the The Comeback master especially uh if you talk to my dad about it pinberg that one time and thousand Arabian Nights Johnny was down about 20 million in the moment about a minute in my dad already conceded the loss because it's it's Johnny he doesn't just start playing to catch you and not get it well if you get lucky all the time is it really luck then all right so we're watching some Tron Time come on fine a little bit of skill a little bit skill so we got the a commentary team now now that we got absolutely why not I decided to barge in look at that yeah excellent I love this game this is like one of my favorite games yeah it's a great Tournament game lots of risk reward options and uh you can just end the line out if you if you want to except on this machine where the right ramp sucks they're just practicing right now right yeah yep it's just practice three player game gym going last what'd Jim get on he got a six no we got a five five on the last game yeah yeah he said he said yesterday you got a two in this game so I think he's going to be putting all of his anger into this game after that after the Abra yes so looks like the Tilda swings a little bit so yeah see that right ramp it's a tough shot man there's no joke on this one well most trons it's a nice little feed in there and you can get it but this one here I have a difficult time with it in the two stage it's beautiful on there so my favorite part of this game is the two stage and the gem super for Cora it feels it's like the best feeling shot in pinball but uh all right looks like the practice is over maybe um you can't it's not baby the restart's not turned on so when they turn the game off that means that that means we know if people have been pretty good at hitting the the core shot I feel like the Cora to miss ratio is pretty good for most people so see how it is it's the most Fair playing Tron I've played in the wild like every time I drained it was my fault like I believe the statistics right now is that this is the easiest game in the it is it yeah what's the average on it I don't know 4.2 I think or something last time I looked I don't know where this guy I don't want to touch the screen if not I know I'm going to break something you don't touch computers at all yeah you remember what happened last time you touched it yeah I was like don't touch don't touch shout out to all those people over there there's a couple of people there watching all right Raymond all right all right so it looks like we're playing for real now uh Sunshine is on Sunshine got a two last game so she's going first super skill shot or you punch the full plunge or just regular super skill shot wait a second what about regulars what about the the shot to the like the gem shot basically that's what I like oh that's what that's what that's what I do too I don't like the bumper feed I'll take my oh good bump there you get that extra uh it swings yeah it's a little tight yeah you get it once but you can't get it twice well you can get it twice if you wait a little bit but immediately I'm not liking the chances but so the 4.4 average on this game so most of the time people get it in the uh first five balls says your light cycle is pretty easy to get to especially when you can plunge the gem yes because you only need three shots so like Cora side ramp gem that's it right pretty well and then scoop then scoop light cycle isn't worth very much but you can end a line and you can light your Korra so and Korra is I don't think anyone's probably started Cora and not come out over 12 million because adding a ball is worth a million points I did not know that so yeah he plunges gem so oh and I saw it I don't think he waited long enough yeah he got away with it and he got the uh he lived through it the left Loop very nice beautiful boostermeyer good progress though Carl is negative 14 so he really doesn't need a I think he has a nice one yeah I'm liking his chances of making it to finals now I'll do finals the the seed to have a big advantage or not really I think you I think you get to drive the bus I think so you get to pick and it's like group play or something I'm not doesn't sound like golf to me it's like you do qualifying and then it's like I like hole seven let's go to Hole seven really is that what it is I think that's so I didn't know about that and until Carl told me so you just backhanded again very nice can you can you do that consistently I do yes somebody in my group was doing it yes really consistently yep wow I am and light cycle yeah big End of Line too it's a really good shape here yeah yeah it looks like he's aiming for the backhand there yeah it's crazy Matt's and the lion I want to see some super Jack Clues good points especially if you can get those inlands because it spots you one yep he did it okay so yeah you can definitely backhand it all right there you go scoop will finish his clue which will be worth like 500 000 which one yeah halfway there and he's got really good Coral progress it's two more right it's five and all yeah I think it's five Decorah good save oh good save again I like that combo keeping alive he's got super Spinners lit now nice there he goes oh and the line would have been huge look at that another backhand the quarter wow that is amazing never seen that before funny thing is he's doing it on the Fly too yeah he is it's crazy then he's partying yeah forget about the forehand do the back end yeah post pass over oh that was a very very good start though progress and halfway there oh more than halfway more than that yeah especially if you factor in the Cora short plunge hikora side ramp scoop you're done or Not really but see Mr belcito he's a minus six so where's he sitting at like third fourth right now I think that's fourth or fifth yeah I think he's tied for fourth with Raymond because oh my God don't touch that computer I'm touching it and I didn't even wash my hands all right all right starts with the ramp here oh no not good we need a microphone at the machine we wouldn't be fun to hear what they say when they drink like that yeah they saw his lips moving enough I don't think you'd hear him say anything because he's so you know cool and calm and Collective oh once in a while he would he would throw something out there yeah wow that's a scary short plunge feed it is not like fun house if it goes to the outline you don't get it back that's right so what are we doing with the feeds here are we like live catching are we letting people are going on the fly or live catching I think I can finish you yesterday to go ahead and yeah I tried live catching and warm-up and I couldn't find it and then he convinced me to try it in game and then like a switch I could do it you beat me on Sean right you got a two or no I got a five but I had that really good first ball oh yeah you had the uh the five-way combo and uh yeah everything going ready to go and yeah just yeah it was the story of the day it was lost opportunity all day for me um yeah well you can make back that opportunity today I hope so you know that's uh you know that that's the plan it's it's what I have to hold on Hope for all the time I might as well not even show up and play right yeah it's all about not getting eights or higher like a seven you probably don't want that but everything else like this fives if you get fives all day you're not doing great but you're doing pretty well that would have been like great advice before the match it's all about playing really safe right wow you just you saw that too you saw that one you knew it was coming he yeah he saw it coming yeah he saw it going up and over oh boy and that's what Carl is saying good thing of it it's okay good thing Carl is a minus 14. the worst thing he can do is minus eight yes yeah but Carl doesn't want to mine and save no Carl wants uh minus 15. he wants that first place he wants to hang on you know to the advantage that he has in playoffs right yeah and that's what driving the bus with this Bank absolutely very important I want to see this guy backhand this again I want to I want to see no I want to see him okay short plunge hit the ramp in the skill shot and then he's gonna hit Cora and he's gonna side ramp into the scoop and then he'll be done like he won't even need to play Cora wait you're saying Shore punch hit the ramp in the scoop yeah yeah well I hit oh you want the ramp scoop no you want the chorus Cora well yeah ramps and then spinner yes okay side ramps here it is this is everything do it do it look at that very beautiful yeah now and it's done that was beautiful that was excellent all right that was that was awesome because it also since he also plunged his light cycle it also started light cycle so all right that was awesome so mad ends up with the two that was almost as good as your five shot Greyjoy yesterday yeah everyone was saying you know like oh yeah Martel is the way to go I'm like nope Greyjoy all day it's never seen someone in a Target so quickly it's like holy cow is like 10. first ball of the tournament that's the president for the everything else unbelievable how much was it clean what was it like 180 million oh yeah it was like three something it was huge yeah and he just walked away he was like oh yeah yeah no problem yeah let's do it again yeah then I Then star shark wasn't it wasn't quite as nice it's hard to get 35 million and eight flips on the Star Trek yeah you can though actually you can do it in less uh with save the Enterprise no mercy from the Tron and he needs us he needs uh you know this isn't uh a gimme for him right now right yeah well he's sitting pretty good at that negative six you get a 10. you know you're six is that a negative two still so yeah that's that's dicey still wait or no it would be zero yeah yeah zero yeah so that's that's dicey he's playing first it's only after two balls though and then he can also if he short punch into the scoop or into his gem he's kind of guaranteed at least a seven just because the multi ball or whatever or more of like the skill shots or 500 a piece right oh here's a big in the line yeah so now you just end the line out hope so this is what I would do tried the live catch there all right you want to go for Cora I was still good oh yeah well yeah you know end the line okay yeah that's double dipping yeah get greedy get some gems in there too get that five million bonus and he's got clue going on oh that's unfortunate it's a bummer oh that's a really nice shot there though yeah all those tens of thousands from Zeus yeah they add up over time if she gets it by 60 000 points nice prove me wrong oh yeah and then sat right out lane too yeah nasty at least on the left one you can kind of see it coming all right very close though all right Carl can salvage it here Carl and Jim are nearly tight oh he almost that's trouble yeah he went for a full plunge oh my gosh good reward for a good slapstick what is going on yeah left outline and the shakes of the heads and the smiles and the laughs it's hard to play good all day you know you got to have one bummer game but you don't want you just don't want it to be it just shows that he's human right he's not a machine he is human yeah no he's a machine he's the submarine he's the submarine yeah never count them out like he'll get it on Ballroom he'll get it there's no way there's not there's very few universes where Carl does not and that's the same with Jim there's no way Jim doesn't get it in five balls I'm I'm calling right now both of them a seat to somebody that nobody knows uh Mr Raymond over here oh my God who is this some some uh celebrities in here how you doing Raymond uh probably better than Jim on Tron right now it looks like yeah yeah it's he is missed two shots and gotten two all right so here's a hot take with the uh par only 12 million anyone ever think about just trying to trying to complete the ladder for uh bonus like just make sure you get one shot to the dip to the uh disc targets you know spell Tron spell Zeus get your bonus locked in on ball one and then just collect and then click for the last yeah and then yeah you can plunge into the gym oh my God geez there is some Wicked well he can light his light cycle Now by full plunging so sunshine I love the full plunge uh light cycle trick I love that sometimes sometimes it goes sometimes you get it yeah you get the plunge and then you go ahead and get the skills down you're in yeah other times it goes pop left out lane yep I'm gonna stick with my super skill shot and scoop no man the value is too high on that short plunge into the scoop it's like it's a million yeah but then with the super skill shot it's about a million as well but your end of line is worth more no man the way the quickest way to get par in this game is if you can Master the right orbit oh that's not a touch pad yeah the right right orbit into uh side ramp into scoop combo yep because it gives you end of line and it lights your yep every time you hit the right orbit it lights your Flynn's arcade for an extra 500 gravy yeah that's yeah that's that's a real easy shot too yeah Sunshine is guaranteed a five though if she plunges into her scoop she'll get a million and she has 650 000 in bonus I'm telling you bonus Man play the ladder oh yeah this super skill shot's not working for Carl uh-oh like if Carl would have just hit one yellow three Bank Target this game oh my God that was a fumble yes the wheels coming off oh my goodness was that ball four yeah yeah he'll he'll get it there's nowhere guys territory now yeah he's staring down a ten yeah but the 10 still won't even affect him because that's how well he's playing today I'm saying I still believe in Carl and Jim I both think they're gonna get to 12 million plunge for a nine yep yeah all right Jimbo come on Jim gonna full plunge or is Jim gonna super skill shot I tell him I would do the full plunger but that's just me for plunge look at that million yeah but he could if he would have full punch he would have a light cycle lit yeah uh that's true so then he would nearly guarantee himself he could have got greedy and got the pops and then got the lights yeah I probably I probably would have full plunge there just to guarantee my light cycle lit on ball five yeah all right now if he full plunges he gets a pause smiling at us over here it's like uh Carl I have my money down I say I said on ball three that you know you're still gonna get this you're the submarine you always get these so always I won't say 80 of the time that super skill shot isn't doing you much Justice you just lost the sidearam or oh yeah the other thing to think about oh she missed his skill shot oh oh boy here we go super skill still lit are they the semi super semi-skill yeah the kind of skill set that's a big skill shot it's still lit it's lit until you miss I think now uh like a number of switches thing oh that in Lane might have saved her day oh oh yeah no Cora uh-oh oh boy oh boy beautiful good shot okay yeah she's gotten bonus as long as she doesn't yeah it just doesn't need to twins arcade that's the yeah that'd be a nice shot actually if she drained right now I think she would miss it by a thousand points oh she has it in six seven fifty she's okay okay and she knows that and she knows but you still play eleven two five yep or four yeah there you go she tried to do your trick there right there and the gem so for the wall oh End of Line combo that is the rarest of all combos which is the right orbit to gym okay so look so she's got most of her stuff on the ladder done and she got a Bonus multiplier from gem so you're telling me that this is worth doing I mean that's 1.6 1.6 so that's 800 a ball yeah that's not bad all right Carl super skill shot man I'm just saying if you're gonna shoot for quora Miss early rather than late so that you nailed it and he's gonna hit the scooter and then he's gonna have a wonderful yep there she goes He nailed it yeah you're right and he's gonna look at that yeah he's gonna get he's gonna get it oh my goodness oh dude he's the submarine that's a double Super Jackpot for 1.5 million off the bat I don't think I've ever seen someone get the 12 million in light cycle alone but if someone's gonna do it it could be Carl look at this another 500 Escape yeah oh my goodness oh he nailed another one I didn't even know that was he just scooped it up there he missed the air 500. he's fine he feels he's feeling it now he's gonna get that nice yeah it's not it's not good he made that in Lane happen is what happened there this is this is the classic submarine there is no way he does not get to 12 million here there's not a doubt in my mind I think he still needs Corey that's fine he's fine what was that that was uh he just that was a scaredy flip all right he's gonna hit core right now oh wow easy on this game I found nice and he's gonna oh he's gonna try at it he gets in three tries yeah nothing there three strikes and you're out but I'm still alive he's got core again oh that trouble oh he's fine he's fine hey backhanded nothing now you now you want your clue right you you clue right because you got nope he's committed to Cora yeah I'm telling you it'll give him the bonus though because you see he doesn't have the clue light on the bonus ladder he might actually be close no Carl shoot the scoop oh no uh he wants his double end of the line oh he finally hit a recognize the target so he's got some bonus from that coming there's not a doubt in my mind his uh double scoring is still running yeah yeah he's struggling but you can you can see the double scoring timer at the bottom left oh no it's gone the double bonus is gone no he lost the demand I was I was with you the whole entire way the uh the clue shot is on the scoop if you hit clue and double scoring you might have gotten it I think so but all right now Jim's gonna Jim's gonna come back Jim's got it so uh a nine six puts him just over the seven so we got a six there it's a great Salvage volume there yes six so well played by Carl and puts him at eight no that's two one or he puts them in double digits yep he's 10 for the tournament there we go pretty good see now Jim's gonna do it too because Jim just started his light cycle all night I did Super skill shot yes clue is on the scoop and then you have to hit the four clue shots but the if you spell clue on the in Lanes it uh counts as a and this one has some bouncy in Lane he almost just did the exact thing that Carl did like he but he got blocked by the other ball s again that one back oh yeah there we go it's a lineman game that one's not let's not get that one though yep so he's got a lot on the ladder so if he just gems a few times double double according to you Raymond you're all about the uh well no it's it's ball five so it has it has one fifth value if you do it on oh one right yeah then it adds then it's you know 5x yeah yeah but are you you're playing to get a five oh oh Jeep jeez they both let me down it's all about progression I was so sure these guys were gonna make it happen but bummer not seven five takes him to a seven so Carl and Jim are both looking pretty good they're pretty far under par I'm liking their chances of making the cut I know Carl's gonna make the cut but yeah Jim ends up at minus three after that and where do you think the cut Line's gonna be even I think it's going to be around plus three maybe yeah with the way things were going here like last couple years was around minus three minus four but the games have been playing pretty tough here there's a couple tough games so um it's pushed it down a little bit and from the play that I've seen today I think Even's gonna be a fairly you know safe score I have no idea what the kutland all depending you never know you never know what's gonna happen in the next round but that's where it's looking so uh yeah I think uh the stream's gonna finish up here because I think Carl said he'll leave it running for people too is he gonna leave it pop in and out of yeah he told me half an hour ago it wasn't but he told me uh differently so we'll see see what happens I have it running I kind of know how to do it like a little bit oh boy no no signal oh why does that say commentators in oh all right he's got to make it uh Johnny Monica proof now you're leaving it on yeah yeah he's got to make it uh we're gonna leave the stream on but we um you guys are gonna have to run it so yeah I'm playing I'm playing I'm playing so you can come back and commentate in between balls there isn't anybody else standing around to commentate funky fresh um ready to play some pingle I gotta find what group oh yeah hello that's the main issue right now yep so and then I'm showing Becker how to do the scores and the profiles all right so the stream is not ending but I have to um I have to get it off Carl lied to me well no I wasn't gonna run it but the people wanted apparently yeah the people love their pin golf all right so Josh is making the groups I gotta go look at those okay so we're gonna go dark for just a little we won't we'll leave it on but I guess if you guys want to talking talk whatever yeah I'm sure you can find a few commentators yeah yes you the people [Music] [Applause] all right I gotta get ready to play let me choose the internet take care see the internet uh try and find a few commentators I'm sure uh Steve Bowden will be happy to commentate so all right I'll see you guys later _(Acquisition: youtube_auto_sub)_ --- *Exported from Journalist Tool on 2026-04-13 | Item ID: 691151d1-5cc1-4eaf-8f49-9ba66a8b94cb*