# Episode 830: "A Damn Good Fun Friday Show"

**Source:** Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2023-08-04  
**Duration:** 28m 18s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-830-damn-87192598

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## Analysis

Kaneda discusses pinball market trends including Venom's lukewarm reception, rumored Keith Elwin designs (Jaws, John Wick), Jersey Jack's potential multi-game announcements, American Pinball's stalled pipeline, Haggis Pinball production concerns, Spooky's upcoming licensed games (Looney Tunes, Evil Dead, Princess Bride), and broader market dynamics around inventory, used pricing, and manufacturer capacity expansion.

### Key Claims

- [MEDIUM] Keith Elwin is designing two games for 2024, likely Jaws and another title — _Kaneda discussing rumors, cites Zombie Yeti/Knapp Arcade as source_
- [MEDIUM] Jersey Jack is planning to reveal two games by end of year (Elton John and Mark Sadan's game) — _Kaneda cites 'good source' for this rumor_
- [HIGH] Venom is a lukewarm-selling game due to unappealing theme, not code or price alone — _Kaneda's direct opinion and market observation_
- [MEDIUM] American Pinball ordered 500 Tank Turrets and cannot proceed to next game until sold — _Kaneda discussing unverified reports about Mukesh/American Pinball dynamics_
- [LOW] Haggis Pinball has only four core employees building machines despite claiming 20 — _Kaneda cites unidentified Australian sources with 'bone to pick'_
- [MEDIUM] Spooky Pinball has licenses for Looney Tunes, Evil Dead, and The Princess Bride — _Kaneda states as rumor: 'I hear they have the Evil Dead license'_
- [MEDIUM] Stern is building a new mega facility with capacity to stock 1,000-2,000 games — _Kaneda discusses speculation about Stern's expanded storage/direct sales potential_
- [HIGH] Used pinball market experiencing pricing delusion; secondary market prices rivaling new retail — _Kaneda cites Pinside marketplace observations_
- [HIGH] Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti) was officially hired by Stern Pinball — _Kaneda announces this as confirmed news_
- [MEDIUM] Chicago Gaming's next game after Pulp Fiction will be sci-fi themed Mark Ritchie design — _Kaneda states as rumor, speculates it could be Gremlins or Beetlejuice_

### Notable Quotes

> "There's only two things right now that will cause a FOMO situation in pinball: Keith Elwin and a triple A theme."
> — **Kaneda**, ~19:00
> _Articulates market psychology driving pinball purchasing decisions and hype cycles_

> "When you buy a Spooky machine, it's like buying a Jaguar. It's gonna have problems. It's gonna have issues."
> — **Kaneda**, ~50:30
> _Characterizes Spooky's quality reputation and buyer expectations_

> "Nobody cares. Nobody's buying this game. There's no way to like get people reignited into this game."
> — **Kaneda**, ~35:00
> _On Galactic Arcade Tank Force sales; reflects community sentiment and market failure_

> "If you know you don't have a home run theme, let the people warm up to it."
> — **Kaneda**, ~32:00
> _Marketing advice to Jersey Jack about Elton John announcement strategy_

> "I can tell you it's not good. You go into the Galactic Arcade Tank Force owners thread and what do you see? It's eight or nine pages long on a game that was revealed in a year."
> — **Kaneda**, ~34:30
> _Contrasts weak community engagement to poor sales performance_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Kaneda | person | Host of Kaneda's Pinball Podcast; provides market commentary, rumors, and opinions on pinball industry |
| Keith Elwin | person | Legendary pinball designer rumored to be designing two games for 2024 (Jaws, John Wick); subject of major FOMO hype |
| Jeremy Packer | person | Artist (Zombie Yeti alias); officially hired by Stern Pinball after six years as freelancer; praised as 'most talented artist in pinball' |
| Jack Guarnieri | person | Jersey Jack Pinball founder; involved in licensing/theme selection (Elton John mentioned as his choice) |
| David Fix | person | American Pinball CEO; designer of Galactic Arcade Tank Force; rumored to be blocking next game until 500 Tank Turrets sell |
| Mukesh | person | American Pinball stakeholder/decision-maker; reportedly not allowing move to next game until Galactic Arcade Tank Force units clear |
| Dennis Nordman | person | Legendary pinball designer; rumored to have designed 'Son of Yeti' game that American Pinball won't produce due to cost |
| Mark Sadan | person | Jersey Jack Pinball game designer hired October 2021; rumored to have unreleased game potentially Avatar-themed |
| Steve Ritchie | person | Legendary designer; Elton John game designer at Jersey Jack; Chicago Gaming designer of upcoming sci-fi themed game |
| Mark Ritchie | person | Designer at Chicago Gaming; working on sci-fi themed game after Pulp Fiction |
| John Borg | person | Pinball designer; originally rumored for John Wick but may be replaced by Keith Elwin |
| Damien | person | Haggis Pinball representative; criticized by Kaneda for lack of transparency about facility/staff |
| Marty | person | Haggis Pinball partner; Kaneda expresses skepticism about claims regarding employee count and production |
| Brian Eddy | person | Stern designer credited with Mandalorian and Venom; characterized as not blowing people away with recent designs |
| Zombie Yeti | person | Alias for Jeremy Packer; mentioned on Knapp Arcade claiming three Keith Elwin games possible in 2024 |
| Ryan McQuade | person | American Pinball designer; has video game/comic book arcade game in pipeline |
| Jason Knapp | person | Operator of Knapp Arcade; featured Kaneda's Keith Elwin rumors on platform |
| Ken Cromwell | person | Flippin' Out Pinball co-host; mentioned in context of Jersey Jack Elton John discussion |
| Bug | person | Charlie Daniels' son at Spooky Pinball; Kaneda jokes about irony of name given recent game bugs |
| Don | person | Don's Pinball Podcast host; Kaneda jokes about his Elvira Premium modded to look like 40th Edition |
| Stern Pinball | company | Major manufacturer; expanding capacity, building new mega facility, potentially moving to direct sales model |
| Jersey Jack Pinball | company | Manufacturer facing sales struggles with Godfather/Toy Story 4; rumored to announce multiple games including Elton John |
| American Pinball | company | Manufacturer with stalled pipeline; Galactic Arcade Tank Force underperforming; future games blocked until current units sell |
| Haggis Pinball | company | Australian manufacturer; criticized for lack of transparency, production delays, questionable employee count claims |
| Spooky Pinball | company | Manufacturer known for quality issues but improving; rumored licenses include Looney Tunes, Evil Dead, Princess Bride |
| Chicago Gaming | company | Manufacturer moving away from remakes; next game after Pulp Fiction will be sci-fi themed Mark Ritchie design |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Keith Elwin design pipeline and market hype, Stern Pinball facility expansion and direct sales speculation, Venom reception and Marvel theme saturation, Used pinball market pricing dynamics and inventory saturation, Jersey Jack production struggles and multi-game announcements, American Pinball Galactic Arcade Tank Force sales failure, Haggis Pinball production capacity and transparency concerns
- **Secondary:** Spooky Pinball quality issues and upcoming licensed games

### Sentiment

**Mixed** (0.35) — Kaneda is in a good mood but highly critical of most manufacturers' recent output. Positive on Keith Elwin, Jeremy Packer hiring, and selective excitement. Strongly negative on Venom, American Pinball, Haggis Pinball transparency, and overall market saturation. Cautiously pessimistic about Jersey Jack and concerned about inventory dynamics.

### Signals

- **[rumor_hype]** Keith Elwin rumored to design two games in 2024; potentially Jaws and John Wick; subject of intense FOMO expectations (confidence: medium) — Kaneda cites Knapp Arcade/Zombie Yeti as sources; acknowledges this is rumor but treats as credible
- **[product_concern]** Venom facing lukewarm reception due to Marvel theme saturation; community over-saturated with superhero IP (confidence: high) — Kaneda's direct observation of Pinside threads and market sentiment; characterizes as 90% of buyers finding theme unappealing
- **[market_signal]** Used Foo Fighters LE machines priced same as new retail availability; market experiencing pricing delusion as inventory saturation approaches (confidence: high) — Kaneda posts on Pinside observing used machines at $13,500 competing with new in-box retail availability
- **[supply_chain_signal]** Collectors running out of space as manufacturers increase production; widespread need to sell/move used machines creating secondary market pressure (confidence: high) — Kaneda's analysis: 'thousands of people are going to want it. That means there needs to be thousands of spaces...What happens if he comes out with two games'
- **[business_signal]** Stern building new mega facility with potential to stock 1,000-2,000 games; could enable direct-to-consumer sales model (confidence: medium) — Kaneda speculates based on facility expansion news; positions as potential disruption to distributor model
- **[product_launch]** Spooky Pinball has secured three major licenses: Looney Tunes, Evil Dead, and The Princess Bride for upcoming releases (confidence: medium) — Kaneda reports as rumor: 'I hear they have the Evil Dead license...Looney Tunes is also another one I heard'
- **[personnel_signal]** Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti) officially hired by Stern Pinball after six years as freelancer/contract artist (confidence: high) — Kaneda announces as confirmed news with celebratory tone
- **[product_concern]** American Pinball Galactic Arcade Tank Force severely underperforming; only 8-9 page owner thread indicates lack of community interest (confidence: high) — Kaneda cites Pinside thread data; contrasts weak engagement to poor sales; characterizes as sales flop
- **[industry_signal]** Tension between manufacturers and distributors; Stern potentially losing $1,000+ per game through distributor channel; talk of direct sales model disruption (confidence: medium) — Kaneda speculates about Stern direct sales impact: 'they're going to squeeze out the smaller distributors'
- **[product_concern]** American Pinball unable to proceed to next designer (Dennis Nordman's Son of Yeti) until 500 Tank Turrets units sell; game blocked indefinitely (confidence: medium) — Kaneda cites reports: 'Mukesh will not let them move on to another game until all of those freaking things are sold'
- **[rumor_hype]** Jersey Jack planning to reveal two games by year-end: Elton John (Steve Ritchie) and Mark Sadan's game; unprecedented double announcement for JJP (confidence: medium) — Kaneda cites 'good source'; notes this would be first time JJP revealed two games in one year
- **[product_concern]** Haggis Pinball criticized for lack of facility transparency; claims 20 employees but rumored to have only 4 core staff; production delays on Fathom lineup (confidence: low) — Kaneda cites Australian sources with 'bone to pick'; expresses skepticism about claims; predicts Fathom deadline will not be met

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## Transcript

 I used to think maybe you love me, now baby I'm sure. And I just can't wait till the day when you knock on my door. Sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up. Welcome everybody to Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, the world's only pinball podcast that is bolted to the floor. We're going nowhere. I'm in a super good mood. Work is going great. Brenda is back. Killian is over his hand, foot, mouth disease. We're still above ground complaining and arguing and getting excited about pinball machines. What a wonderful life we all have that we get to spend it together. So here's what we're going to talk about. We're going to go around the pinball horn on this Friday edition of Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. There's a lot more rumors going on in pinball that I have not shared with you. Let's just get them all out there. Now that I've been officially mentioned on Knapp's Arcade, I'm also in a super good mood. Thank you Jason for including my rumor about Keith Elwin making two games next year. We're going to talk about that because there's another rumor floating around the Keith Elwin space floating like it's some buoy or something. So let's get right to it. First, let's start with Venom. I just want to say this about Venom. When you go into the Venom thread, it is just a total cluster. I don't understand why people are still debating this game. The game is not going to sell that well. We both know it and it's not because of the code. It's not because of the price. That has something to do with it, but it's just because it's venom. This game was never going to do that well. Venom is like an unappealing theme to like 90% of potential pinball buyers. So many of us are just over. We're over another Marvel pinball machine. I think people are very satiated with Foo Fighters. I think people are still waiting for James Bond to get good. But we knew when 2023 started that 2023 was always going to be a little bit of an off year in the pinball space. And if you look at it, right, if you actually look at what happened this year in pinball, it has been primarily underwhelming other than the Foo Fighters. Like, and everything else has been an underwhelming thing. And so now what's happening, right? Everyone's kind of looking past Venom because you know that Keith Elwin's pins are coming next year. So why would you pull the trigger on a freaking Venom right now when if you just wait a few months, you're going to see Keith Elwin's pin in February. And I think everyone's starting to realize that like it's August, we're going to slide quickly into September. Then it's going to be the fall. Using JA Buleps by GM javalov and Larys Grisconska. JOO As Stern gets ready to increase its capacity and they're going to make more games a year, the question is this, where are these games going to go? And for those of you out there who have pinball machines in your homes and in your collections, a lot of you need to free up room to put a new in box machine into your game room. And that's going to be the biggest issue. For most of you, it's not even the money. You just don't have space. And so to move something new in, you gotta move something old out. And here's the problem, almost everybody now is gonna have to start moving stuff out. So if everyone's looking to get rid of one, who is looking to absorb those used machines? And that's gonna be the real problem. We're gonna have to start seeing used prices soften significantly. I posted on Pinside today, people are trying to sell. They're used, right? These are used, opened, and beaten on games. The Foo Fighters are selling them for the same price you can march up now and get a brand new in box FooFighter LE. What is wrong with like the used pinball market? Are people unaware of this? Like all you gotta do is look at the marketplace and say, hey, I'm not gonna get 13.5 for my used FooFighters LE because there's three of them available new in box with or best offer for a new one inside a box. I don't know what it is. It's just like this delusion that people have that they think they're not going to lose anything on a secondhand sale of pinball. Not only are they going to lose, I think people are going to lose a lot more than they want to as more and more people need to free up room. And once the new Keith Elwin pinball machine lands in the world, think about it. Like thousands of people are going to want it. That means there needs to be thousands of spaces around the world in which people have a spot open for that Keith Elwin game. The Game What happens if he comes out with two games then you need two spots because you know you're gonna want a Keith Elwin game There's only two things right now that will cause a FOMO situation in pinball Keith Elwin and a triple a theme Those two things and imagine if you put those two themes together forget it forget it all bets are off if Keith Elwin has a triple A theme I mean he's only had one triple a theme and that's Jurassic Park everything else confrontation The So look venom is always gonna have a lukewarm response. It's not worth arguing about it It's not worth debating the RPG code versus this versus that again It just looks like a middle-of-the-road game Brian Eddy like he didn't blow us away with Mandalorian He's not blowing people away with venom I just think it's gonna be a game that you're always gonna be able to get if I were to predict where Venom's gonna end The Portfolio of games out in the world then it's gonna end up being a game like Aerosmith It's not gonna be the next Deadpool if Deadpool came out today at these prices It also would not have caught fire and that's the other thing is the pricing does matter. It absolutely does matter You're looking down at these games and you're saying to yourself do I see ten or thirteen thousand dollars in value? You know what rumor I said was never gonna happen. It's Stern selling directly Here an interesting thing that I hearing that Stern new mega facility is going to be so big they going to have enough room to stock a lot more inventory because right now Stern is a Manufacturing company They not a storage company They can really pile up hundreds of games and a lot of inventory in their current facility But when they move into the new facility What if they could store like 2 games or a thousand games Does that mean that Stern might start selling direct Stern loses at A minimum $1000 on every game they sell through a distributor. Are we going to see Stern maybe open that up? Now right now they only sell a handful of LEs directly. Are we going to see them sell premiums and pros? And if they do this what they're ostensibly doing is they're going to squeeze out the smaller distributors and they're going to be gone. They're not going to be able to survive that. I don't know. It's weird, right? It's a really weird situation because if Stern does sell directly and they sell for that Daniel Warnersmi J tercerDMF James Schwartz場 15 Nathan fini qua Acidic T I still don't think Stern's gonna blow up this model. They might go there eventually if they start to see more and more titles stalling out and distributors basically balking at orders because we all know that distributors did not say, hey Stern, we're gonna take all 1000 of your venom LEs. And so what is Stern gonna do? They're still gonna make 1000 LEs. I think once Stern starts the line for a game, I think they make them all. Even if the orders aren't fully there, I think they're gonna make all 1000 venom LEs. I don't think Jersey Jack though like makes a thousand Godfather CEs. So let's talk about real quickly two Keith Elwin games in 2024 and now I am hearing that Keith Elwin may be the designer for John Wick that it's not going to be John Borg, it's going to be Keith Elwin. And now the rumors get even more interesting because you're like wait a minute, maybe John Wick is the game that's going to come out next and not Jaws. I still think it's going to be Jaws. We've heard Jaws forever and a day. There's so much rumblings around Jaws that I think it's going to be Jaws. So I think it's going to go Keith Elwin Jaws. I think then there's going to be a new game from John Borg and then there's going to be another game from Keith Elwin. There are not going to be more than two games from Keith Elwin next year. I know Zombie Yeti said that on Naps Arcade in the story in which I was mentioned, but I do think Jeremy might just be trying to The I don't know. There's no way it's gonna be three games from Keith Elwin in one year and speaking of Jeremy. Mr. Zombie Eddie friend of the show Congratulations on getting what you've deserved for many many years now He is now officially hired by Stern pinball like when I heard the news I was like wait a minute He's been like making games for them for like six years and now it's official now he gets to get on the benefit train I'm so happy for Jeremy. He is the most talented artist in all of pinball and he's the one man who you can give a blank piece of paper to and he could create a freaking masterpiece. You can never replace this guy with AI artwork. Can't say that about everybody else in the pinball art space. Oh, Kaneda, you can't say it. You gotta whisper that stuff on Saturday morning spectacular. Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti), congratulations. What else is happening in the world of pinball? I heard a crazy rumor about Jersey Jack. This one is weird, but let's step back a little bit. Jersey Jack Pinball, October 5th of 2021 is when they officially announced that they were hiring Mark Sadan to be a game designer at Jersey Jack Pinball. So what do you think Mark Sadan's been doing for the last two years at Jersey Jack Pinball? What do you think? Any guesses? Do you think he's actually been doing what his title is? Do you think he's been designing a game for two freaking years? Okay, so here's the rumor. Remember those dates. Steve Ritchie's Elton John is coming out next. I am hearing that Jersey Jack is planning to release two games, not one, but two games or reveal two games by the end of this year. That Steve Ritchie's game will be unveiled at Expo. I don't even know why you bother revealing a game at Expo. All you need is the internet. And then we're going to see Mark Sadan's game at the end of the year. Now when I heard this rumor, and this comes from a good source, I was like, come on, really? jerseyjack has never even revealed two games in one year, let alone three. Cuz remember, Godfather was revealed this year and then we're gonna get Elton John and then another game from Mark Sadan. Do you think Steve Ritchie would even let that happen? I don't think so. He needs to come out with a bang and he's not gonna want to share the line with another designer. He's not gonna want to share the limelight with another designer. But let's just for a moment consider this rumor. Let's just consider where something like this would come from. And the only guess I can make is this, that Jersey Jack deep down inside, deep down in the soul of Jersey Jack Pinball, I feel like they might know and they might be reading the writing on the wall that they missed with Toy Story 4. They missed with the Godfather and Elton John is clearly another theme that Jack Guarnieri put on the table. I think they might realize that we can't have three strikes in a row. And maybe we just reveal both of these games because maybe they're radically different in theme. Maybe they have radically different audiences. And maybe even if they're proud of both games, they might release both of them. My guess is Mark Sadan's game is going to be Avatar. It's not going to be The Matrix. I hope it's Top Gun. We have rumors it might be Top Gun. But that's it. I can't see Tom Antonio Cruz signing off on this stuff because, you know, I tried to work with Tom Antonio Cruz through Budweiser because Budweiser appears in the Top Gun movie and he didn't want anything to do with it, but I think that's because it was alcohol. But still, it's probably really expensive to license a Tom Antonio Cruz movie. So do we think this is going to happen? The only thing for certain is this, that Jersey Jack Pinball's The Godfather is not selling well. It will go down as a sales flop and they're going to have to pivot to something else. If I were Jersey Jack and it is Elton John and I know Ken Cromwell people are probably like Kaneda talked about you If it is Elton John just rip the bandaid off now I don even care if the games aren ready to be revealed If they try to like hold it back the way they did with Godfather the way they did with Toy Story 4 you have to give people time to warm up to a theme that you know people are not over the moon about And I know that you're drinking the Kool-Aid inside JJP and you think, oh, this is it. It's going to win people over. It's got the same rainbow lighting system that every Jersey Jack game has right now. No, trust me Jersey Jack. Tell people right now our next game is going to be Elton John and give people a chance to listen to the Rocket Man's music, get excited about it. Here's why that would work. All the people moaning and groaning could just get it out of their systems well before you're ready to create a launch moment. Just trust me on this. As a marketer, when you know you don't have a home run theme, let Let the people warm up to it, it will give much enthusiasm. Okay let's go to Jersey jack and komlick pinball classical pinball Story Track American pinball and david fix, they ordered 500 TANK turrets!! I think it's the nozzle, something like that. But they ordered 500 of them. Apparently Mukesh will not let them move on to another game until all of those freaking things are sold. Remember the rumors that like David Fix was saying they sold 2,000 units of Galactic Tank Force? They did not. And now it's looking like Galactic Tank Force is selling less than some of their previous games. You know, I don't know the truth about the sales numbers of this game. I can tell you it's not good. You go into the Galactic Tank Force owners thread and what do you see? It's eight or nine pages long on a game that was revealed in March. Eight or nine pages. If you started a thread tomorrow that's like, I hate Kaneda, who else does? It would be at like 30 pages in like two days. Okay, that's how infamous I am. Okay, but they got like nine pages. Nobody cares. Nobody's buying this game. There's no way to like get people reignited into this game. They overpriced it. They pissed people off with that signature edition of the game. It's like they're just living in their own world. They've had so many swings at the plate, American Pinball, and they've made every mistake you possibly can. And the other thing I'm hearing is this. Remember when David Fix was going around and saying, hey, we're also going to make Barry O's game like his last game. Well, here's what I'm hearing. That they They are thinking of making Berrio's last game and it's some version of Food Truck but they can't call it FoodTruck because of licensing reasons and it's a single level game. I really hope this rumor is not true that they would even consider making a single level game based on a Berrio design that is based on a FoodTruck game he designed at Deep Root Pinball. If this is even remotely true, everyone over there needs to have their head examined, okay? Because gang, what are you doing? You know what people want in pinball. And then the other rumor I'm hearing is like Dennis Nordman is done with it. It's called like the son of Bigfoot or son of Yeti. It's one of those. It's probably son of Yeti. And it has all these ramps and it's got all this stuff and it would be so expensive to make that American Pinball is not going to make it. And that is why, if you think about it people, think about why is Dennis Nordman not hyping Galactic Tank Force? Why is he nowhere to be found in helping American Pinball sell this game? Now it makes total sense. He's gone MIA because he's pissed off because they're not going to make his better game which is the following game. Well, lesson learned for everybody. You never should have made Galactic Tankforce. You never should have gone down this road. Clearly it's not working. and they've got to be smart like a whitewater sequel would always be a better option than just a game about tanks in space with ice cream like what were they thinking and then you want to charge people 17 5 for a freaking lunchbox in thermos and I'm so happy that the pinball community has slammed the door faster on this game than they slammed it on Kaneda people all right so that's it American pinball and then so what so then they're gonna have to get to Ryan McQuaid's game you know You know this arcade video game comic book from the late 80s early 90s whatever that is because it's licensed it sounds a lot better to me than Galactic Tank Force and it sounds a lot better to me than the son of Bigfoot or Yeti. But the problem is this now I'm hearing Mukesh is not happy and unless they get these Galactic Tankforces sold are we even going to get to Ryan McQuaid's game? And look, the reason why we're speculating like this around American Pinball and it's not very positive is because where are they? Like where is the team over at American Pinball hyping this game, trying to sell this game? Like what are they doing? Like they've gone absolutely radio silent in the moment in which they need to get these games sold and that is a huge red flag. Alright speaking of red flags, uh-oh, Kaneda's gonna talk about haggis for a little bit people. So this is not a rumor, this is just a fact. So their marketing strategy to release Centaur for like $19,000 and the Beast edition for like $11,000 or $10,000, they did not sell out of either of those. And it's been a while now. I think people have learned their lesson. And this is what I'm hearing over at Haggis that there are basically four main employees that are putting these games together. And look, this is what I'm hearing. This is what I'm hearing from people over in Australia that have a little bit of a bone to pick. And here's the good news. If Damien wants to prove me wrong that there are more than four people inside Haggis Pinball on a weekly basis making these games, can you guess what he could do to prove me wrong that there are more than four people working at Haggis putting these machines together? He could maybe go live and walk around and introduce us to all those employees he said he had. He said he had like 20 employees. I don believe it I don buy it Look how much he talked a few weeks ago when he wanted to take your money and look what happened since and I don buy it And if this thing goes south people you going to come to me first and then like I should have listened to Kaneda and I not rooting for it to go south but they still have yet to open up the door and show us what going on Why is that You know what he says like oh people are going to take it No we not going to take it How are we going to take showing us what really going on the wrong When we got a tour of Dutch Pinball did we take it wrong When we got a tour of Spooky Pinball did we take it wrong Heck, even Andrew McBain over at Freakin' Pinball Adventures did a walk around. So if you want to ask people for $19,000, yeah, you got to walk around your joint and prove to us that what you said is true. Because I don't believe Marty and I don't believeDamien. I think they're spinning it all. I think it's only a matter of time before they're going to have to be real about it. And look, we know what the deadline is. They got to finish all the fathoms by the end of the year. And I'm telling you right now, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen, people. All right, what else is going on? We got Haggis, we got Stern, Spooky Pinball! Bug was streaming the Daphne mode of the game yesterday. Spooky Pinball in the house! The game has had a lot of bugs. They're always working on the bug. It's kind of ironic, right? They got a guy, kind of ironic, that like Charlie's son is named Bug and there's a lot of bugs in the game. I mean, I don't know, maybe they've been telegraphing to us how it's gonna be owning a machine all these years. Look, you know this by now. When you buy a spooky machine, it's like buying a Jaguar. It's gonna have problems. It's gonna have issues. The quality is not gonna be the same as everybody else's machines. There's one thing I wanna ask Spooky Pinball to do. Because I was watching the Daphne mode and there was one thing that's just annoying. It's a really fun mode. They've got a lot of fun clips from the show and they freaking put what you need to do in the mode in text across all the clips. It says like shoot the purple shots. Okay, just tell the player that once but it stays up there during the entire mode and every time there's a new clip of like Frankenstein chasing Daphne the entire v fronte The New Clip Go look at Lyman's Batman 66. Let the clips play. Don't ruin the clips by having this font on an angle in front of all those assets you have. Alright so speaking of spooky pinball, another rumor for you guys. I hear they have the Evil Dead license. I know they have three licenses and I hear Evil Dead is one of them. And so, Looney Tunes is also another one I heard they have. The game that is going to be released is Looney Tunes, The Princess Bride and Evil Dead. Look, it's not a bad trilogy for a company that just needs to make like a thousand to fifteen hundred games. Out of those three themes, they will be able to sell that many games. What everyone's looking for from Spooky moving forward is just better quality. They They need better software engineers so when they release these games, you don't feel like you're a guinea pig the whole first year of owning it and they really need to get some mechanical engineers in house and actually make a toy. I mean that's just that simple. Like you need to be able to make a toy in a modern pinball machine when you're gonna charge this much money. It's just table stakes now. I mean that's the other thing too about Venom people. It's like you look down at that game, there's no real toy in it. It's like come on. For $10,000 to $13,000, you're not going to fool us with this. I mean they made freaking Lord of the Rings like 17 years ago and the toys are so much better in Lord of the Rings than in Venom and Lord of the Rings was like $4,000. I mean we're not that stupid. Oh, did I miss anybody? Any rumors over at Chicago Gaming? No. So here's what's going to happen at Chicago Gaming. They're no longer making remakes. The next game after Pulp Fiction is going to be a licensed themed game by Mark Ritchie. I heard it is sci-fi themed in nature. Is it Gremlins? Is it Beetlejuice? What is it? It's got to be something really cool, but it's going to be a fully featured Mark Ritchie game. Seeing what they've done with a single level Pulp Fiction, I think that makes everybody excited. I'm just looking for CGC to like get stuff out. I mean that's where everybody else is. Just get it out. Everybody, thank you so much for being a member of the Kaneda Club. I hope you enjoyed this episode. It's a great time to be in pinball. It's a great time to be observing everything that's going on. I don't know about you, but I'm keeping my money in my wallet. A lot's gonna happen. We're gonna end this episode with a moment of silence for Don over at Don's Pinball Podcast. I was ribbing him today. By the way, we're friends. Like this is all like in jest. So don't be like, oh, Kaneda, it's his game. It's his money. How dare you? No, this is not like Cengiz taking his ball and going home. Like this is two grown men just having fun on a pinball topic. So Don took his Elvira. I think it was like an Elvira premium because there were no pros. He had it transformed into a makeshift Elvira 40th edition game. Only problem is it's not theimiz vs. and put them on a premium. It's like being a pinball poser. It just, you don't do it. It's just something about it. It's like kids who used to put the V8 emblems on their Mustangs when it was a V6. It's like, who are you fooling? You're just making yourself look silly. So we're gonna do this. We're gonna have a little, let's do a 10 second moment of silence for Don's Pinball Podcast and his Elvira 40th that is not an Elvira 40th starting now. All right everybody go buy Galactic Tank Force, this is the best marketing they're gonna get. Later! GAMES, GW N她, 81 GAMES",KHUY AW",KAUrespH

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