# Episode 72: JJP Rumor, Deeproot, Top 5 all LIVE!

**Source:** Poor Man's Pinball Podcast  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2020-09-15  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://poormanspinballpodcast.libsyn.com/episode-72-jjp-rumor-deeproot-top-5-all-live

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## Analysis

Episode 72 of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast covers Stern's Avengers game reveal and animations, a rumor about Jersey Jack Pinball's upcoming reveal on Friday with ready-to-ship games, Deeproot's imminent Monday reveal, and community discussion around manufacturing concerns for new manufacturers. Hosts Drew and Ian speculate on Deeproot's launch strategy and manufacturing capacity while live-streaming with chat engagement.

### Key Claims

- [MEDIUM] JJP will reveal their next game this Friday and will have games ready to ship by Friday — _Ian and Drew discuss a rumor from a 'very reliable source' about JJP's reveal timing before Deeproot's Monday announcement_
- [HIGH] Deeproot is revealing their next game on Monday — _Drew and Ian reference teaser content from Deeproot confirming Monday reveal date_
- [HIGH] Stern's Avengers game has impressive animations that are better quality than comic book style, more like animated feature films — _Drew and Ian discuss the livestream reveal with Jack Danger, Keith Elwin, and Raymond Davidson; they praise the animation package as Stern's best to date_
- [HIGH] The main concern with Deeproot is not financial backing but manufacturing capability and timely delivery — _Drew and Ian explicitly state the worry is manufacturing woes, supply chain, and delays rather than financial issues or bankruptcy_
- [MEDIUM] JJP needs to release two games per year to be financially viable — _Drew states 'J.J.P. needs to figure out how to get two games out a year, and they'll be okay'_
- [MEDIUM] Toy Story is a future Deeproot title in development — _Ian speculates about Toy Story as a Deeproot release, saying 'I think Toy Story's done' and suggesting it could drop for Christmas_
- [MEDIUM] Deeproot's Raza is expected to be a limited run — _Ian and Drew discuss whether Raza will be limited edition, with Ian arguing 'It's a limited run' and estimating 200-300 units_
- [MEDIUM] Robert Mueller (Deeproot owner) has manufacturing experience and financial backing secured — _Drew says 'Robert Mueller has the money, he has the backing, he has experience with certain manufacturing'_
- [HIGH] Stern's use of animated content vs. licensed movie clips depends on licensing rights and property agreements — _Extensive discussion about how properties like Jurassic Park, Beatles, and Aerosmith approached animations vs. clips based on IP licensing availability_
- [HIGH] Pinball FX 3 is harder and less satisfying than physical pinball because button-based nudging feels wrong — _Ian criticizes digital pinball simulation, saying 'that shit's hard and stupid' and dislikes 'nudging by pressing a button'_

### Notable Quotes

> "rumor has it JJP reveal their next game this Friday. This Friday. And they will have games ready to ship by Friday."
> — **Drew or Ian**, mid-episode during news segment
> _Major rumor about JJP's announcement timing and immediate availability, attempting to overshadow Deeproot's Monday reveal_

> "Keith Elwin and Raven Davidson are obviously two of the best players in the world, and people are saying, like, this game kicked Jack Danger's ass."
> — **Drew**, Avengers reveal discussion
> _Commentary on competitive difficulty level of Avengers game and skill disparity shown during livestream_

> "my point is, if Robert comes out and says, hey, here's Raza, it's awesome, and everyone's even like, this is super cool, but you might have to wait five, six, eight, ten months, that might be a problem for them. That's a big problem."
> — **Drew**, Deeproot manufacturing discussion
> _Core concern about Deeproot's ability to deliver games timely after announcement, risking customer cancellations_

> "The biggest question mark isn't necessarily the games, because we know they have some talent over there. It's manufacturing, right?"
> — **Ian**, Deeproot analysis
> _Identifies manufacturing as Deeproot's critical risk factor, not game design quality_

> "I'm impressed with the wire forms. I'm impressed with the overall execution of everything with the shots and the animations and how the animations actually match the art pretty good."
> — **Drew**, Avengers game discussion
> _Praise for Avengers game design execution and animation quality in Stern's recent work_

> "J.J.P. needs to figure out how to get two games out a year, and they'll be okay."
> — **Drew**, JJP discussion
> _Assessment of JJP's business model viability tied to production throughput_

> "We don't have facts. We just have rumors. Are you going to say that on a live air?... we are the dumbest show. We don't... Well, first of all, we have five people listening to us right now."
> — **Drew and Ian**, Pre-rumor discussion
> _Meta-commentary on show format and willingness to discuss unverified rumors while disclaiming accuracy_

> "if it is a limited run, it is their first game. They're already bleeding. We don't need another Lebowski debacle."
> — **Ian**, Deeproot risk assessment
> _Reference to previous crowdfunding failures in pinball industry (Lebowski) as cautionary tale for Deeproot launch_

> "I give it a month to get the first games out... First truck leaves the show. So, 25 games in a month."
> — **Drew**, Deeproot expectations
> _Sets concrete expectation for Deeproot's initial production and delivery timeline_

> "That makes sense? Like it's higher quality than just a comic book. It's up there. I mean, comparing that to like the Deadpool animations, I really dig these. I think this is like a much more rounded... animation package from Stern."
> — **Drew**, Avengers animation praise
> _Detailed assessment of Stern's animation evolution and quality compared to previous titles_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
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| Jersey Jack Pinball (JJP) | company | Pinball manufacturer rumored to reveal a new game this Friday with ready-to-ship inventory before Deeproot's Monday reveal |
| Deeproot | company | Emerging pinball manufacturer expected to reveal their game Monday; discussion focuses on manufacturing capacity and delivery concerns |
| Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer revealed Avengers game with praised animations and gameplay; livestream featured Jack Danger, Keith Elwin, and Raymond Davidson |
| Robert Mueller | person | Owner/operator of Deeproot; described as having financial backing, manufacturing experience, and organized approach to business |
| Jack Danger | person | Pinball streamer and content creator; featured in Stern Avengers livestream reveal; major streaming presence in pinball community |
| Keith Elwin | person | Elite competitive pinball player; appeared in Avengers livestream demonstrating game mastery; ranked among world's best players |
| Raymond Davidson | person | Elite competitive pinball player; appeared in Avengers livestream; ranked among world's best players |
| Drew | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; provides analysis and opinions on game reveals, manufacturing concerns, and industry trends |
| Ian | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; speculates on future titles and manufacturing risks; provides counterarguments to Drew's analysis |
| Avengers | game | Stern Pinball's newly revealed game featuring Marvel IP; praised for animations, wireforms, and overall execution; livestream revealed by Jack Danger |
| Raza | game | Deeproot's anticipated first pinball game; expected limited run; center of manufacturing concern discussion; Monday reveal planned |
| Toy Story | game | Speculated future Deeproot title; Ian suggests it's in advanced development and could release by Christmas |
| Guns and Roses (GNR) | game | Deeproot game expected to be revealed Friday per JJP rumor; speculated to launch with immediate availability |
| Pinball FX 3 | game | Digital pinball simulation on Facebook Live; Ian streaming for metrics; criticized for button-based nudging mechanics vs. physical pinball |
| Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles | game | Drew's personal machine; reports it remains 'brutally hard' and difficult to master; planned upgrade with Pinstadium NeoFusions |
| Meteor | game | Drew's restoration project; recently reassembled with playfield, posts, glow-in-the-dark rubbers; awaiting powder coat before returning home |
| Spooky Pinball | company | Referenced as highly trustworthy manufacturer with reliable delivery; used as comparison point for Deeproot's manufacturing credibility concerns |
| George Gomez | person | Stern designer; referenced for intelligence and expertise in game design and licensing strategy decisions |
| Jeff Patterson | person | Host of This Week in Pinball; provides industry news that Poor Man's Podcast references and discusses |
| This Week in Pinball (TWiP) | organization | Pinball news outlet providing industry coverage; sponsor of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast |
| Zach Minney | person | Owner of Flippin' Out Pinball distribution and rental company; sponsor of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast |
| Pinstadium Lights | company | Aftermarket lighting manufacturer; sponsor providing NeoFusions LED system; Drew plans to install on TMNT machine |
| Steve Bowden | person | Pinball community member described as 'the nicest guy in pinball'; hosts Meltdown Pinball Podcast; Drew and Ian express desire to interview |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Jersey Jack Pinball (JJP) upcoming announcement, Deeproot manufacturing and delivery concerns, Stern Avengers game reveal and animations, Pinball manufacturer business models and production capacity
- **Secondary:** Competitive pinball and player skill levels, Licensing strategy for pinball themes (clips vs. animations), Digital pinball simulation (Pinball FX 3), Podcast personal pinball projects and restoration

### Sentiment

**Mixed** (0.55) — Positive sentiment toward Stern's Avengers game execution and animation quality. Mixed-to-cautious sentiment about Deeproot's potential, with optimism tempered by manufacturing concerns. Playful, humorous tone throughout but underlying skepticism about new manufacturers' ability to deliver at scale. Community engagement and sponsorship mentions are positive.

### Signals

- **[announcement]** Stern Avengers game officially revealed via livestream with Jack Danger, Keith Elwin, and Raymond Davidson showcasing gameplay (confidence: high) — Drew and Ian extensively discuss livestream reveal, animations, and gameplay impressions in detail
- **[rumor_hype]** JJP rumored to reveal next game Friday with ready-to-ship inventory, timing to overshadow Deeproot Monday reveal (confidence: medium) — Ian states rumor from 'very reliable source' but hosts explicitly disclaim this as unconfirmed; strategic timing speculated
- **[announcement]** Deeproot confirmed to reveal game Monday based on teaser campaign (confidence: high) — Multiple references to Deeproot's Monday announcement and viral marketing campaign teasing a date reveal
- **[business_signal]** Deeproot's manufacturing capability and delivery timeline identified as critical market concern vs. game design quality (confidence: high) — Ian: 'The biggest question mark isn't necessarily the games... It's manufacturing, right?' Discussion of supply chain and timely delivery risk
- **[product_strategy]** JJP revenue model assessed as dependent on two-game-per-year production capacity to remain financially viable (confidence: medium) — Drew: 'J.J.P. needs to figure out how to get two games out a year, and they'll be okay'
- **[design_innovation]** Stern's Avengers animations praised as best-in-class animation package with film-quality rendering vs. comic book or basic animation styles (confidence: high) — Drew: 'animation package from Stern... probably their best animation' and comparison to Deadpool, Iron Maiden, Jurassic Park prior work
- **[licensing_signal]** Licensing constraints analyzed as determining factor in pinball game's use of animated content vs. licensed film/TV clips (confidence: high) — Extended discussion of how Jurassic Park, Beatles, Aerosmith, Guardians of the Galaxy approached animation vs. clip licensing differently
- **[rumor_hype]** Toy Story speculated as upcoming Deeproot title in advanced development, possibly releasing for Christmas (confidence: low) — Ian: 'I think Toy Story's done' and 'Toy Story might not be far behind' Guns and Roses; unconfirmed speculation
- **[competitive_signal]** Avengers game shown to be highly challenging; elite players Keith Elwin and Raymond Davidson visibly outmatformed designer/streamer Jack Danger (confidence: high) — Drew: 'this game kicked Jack Danger's ass... Keith Elwin and Raven Davidson... they're explaining the game' and demonstrating mastery
- **[community_signal]** Skepticism toward Deeproot's manufacturing readiness despite trust in ownership's intent and financial backing (confidence: medium) — Ian clarifies manufacturing concerns are separate from financial concerns; discussion of needing clean launch and timely delivery vs. Spooky track record
- **[content_signal]** Ian streaming Pinball FX 3 on Facebook Live to meet platform hour requirements for monetization eligibility (confidence: high) — Ian: 'I got to play it via the Internet on a keyboard... streaming on Facebook Live... we need to hit a certain amount of hours'
- **[collector_signal]** Deeproot's Raza expected to be limited run (200-300 units estimated) raising questions about customer commitment and secondary market timing (confidence: medium) — Ian and Drew debate whether limited run will affect buyer confidence and willingness to wait for delivery; reference Spooky's proven delivery model

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## Transcript

 This episode of the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast is proudly brought to you by This Week in Pinball. Go to This Week in Pinball for all your pinball news. It's where we steal all our shit from Jeff Patterson and we tell you all about it. Like this week, Avengers reveal videos, Deeproot announces launch date, Raymond Davidson interview, and the pinball pig. That is all you're going to see this week on TWiP for September 14th, 2020. Some really good stuff on there. Jeff Patterson always has the best pinball news and we love him for it. We are also brought to you by Pinshades. Don't forget about our friend Jockton. Go to Pinside and check out Pinshades. Use the code POORMANS at checkout for 10% off your order. That's with an S. With an S. Don't also forget about pinballprices.com, our buddy Doc Finlay. He got in with a bottle of booze, as we like to say, but his site is awesome. You're buying a machine, you're selling a machine, go to pinballprices.com. He logs in every single sale. He logs in what he thinks the prices are. It's a great resource for any time you are buying or selling a machine. Go to Flipping Out Pinball. You want a new pinball machine? Flipping Out Pinball. Call Zach. Get yourself a new machine. Get yourself a used machine. Get yourself an escalera, stair climbing hand truck. But you know what? He sells some great, great machines. So check it out, Flip N Out Pinball. And last but certainly not least, as always, Pinstadium Lights. I just got my NeoFusions in the mail. They look great in the box. I haven't unboxed them yet, but I'm sure they're going to look fantastic on my machine. Pinstadium NeoFusions. They got flashes. They got all kinds of cool things. They interact with your game. They work on any pinball machine. Go to Pinstadium Lights. Tell Scott we sent you. Poor man with no ass at checkout for 10% off your order. That'll give you free shipping and more, so buy some accessories. I will report back next week when I put those Neo Fusions in my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and I'm sure they will be spectacular. He's name-dropping like a motherfucker. Got an upset tummy, otherwise known as a burning, itching butthole? Well, whenever I get done drinking a bottle of hot sauce or licking the side of a butter In the basement of some seedy Milwaukee bar, I always turn to the one and only cure that I know is going to help me get through such troubled times, the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Welcome to episode number 72 of the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast, the only episode, or the only podcast just to say, that decided that drinking beer on air as a taste test is a good idea. This is Super Entertaining for our podcast listening audience. Here's the thing. It wasn't super entertaining, but it was so much fun for me. Yes. I think I do. Yeah. No, it was. It was. It was entertaining. Now, I look at myself on this camera, and I am a beautiful man. We can all agree on that, right? Gorgeous. I am just a beautiful, sexy man. I dream about it. Yep. I feel like I get redder every single week. Is it the booze or is it the walls? You know what it is? Or is it just... This episode of the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast is also brought to you by the Super Awesome Pinball Show. No it's not. No it's not. Sorry Franchi. That was my shameless plug for Franchi. You can't afford us. They're the ones that give you a red face? Is that the whole deal? No. No correlation kids. I always look at the bright lights on my red face and most people say well Drew's drunk all the time so that's why. Nope. Not true. Well that is true but I just have a red face. It's just the way I am. It's the way I'm built Ian.dle adapter damn da man than you www.willywonka.com Or you can also subscribe to the AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING I'm going to go into this George Ocean Coconut Rum, which is actually god damn tasty. I had that a month or so ago. It was pretty good. And then a little bit of Coke. And yeah, there's the cocktail. There's our poor man's glass brought to you by Drew's wife. I was just about to say, Kathleen, if you're listening or if you're not listening. Thank you. It holds booze. Yes. My wife gave us these awesome glasses last week as a anniversary gift for Ian and I. We celebrated 18 years of hetero life partner marriage and yeah, sloppiest show on the internet. Thank you very much, wife. We're doing good. Thanks, wife. All right. So let's get into our poor man's personal pinball news. And now the moment you've all been waiting for. Of course, I'm talking about the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast, Personal Pinball News. Alright, what do you got for Poor Man's Personal Pinball News? So it feels like the last year and a half I've been talking about buttoning up Meteor. Yes, you have. We're all enthralled with it. There's a bit of a lie there. I wasn't buttoning it up. I was just in my garage. You were blaming the heat. I was blaming the heat. It was really hot. It's been really cold lately. Sure. So last week I finally went in there. I put the damn playfield back in the cabinet. I put all the posts on. I bought those glow-in-the-dark rubbers. Titan Pinball, shout out. Not a sponsor, but love them. Always love glow-in-the-dark rubbers. You know where you are in the dark. So I bought a set of glow-in-the-dark rubbers. You're disgusting. I put the flippers on, I put the rubbers on, they look really good. I put all the posts on. I fixed up a few of the large holes that I had to patch up and... Fixing large holes? Yep. All the dark rubbers. So a couple more things now. I still haven't got the powder coat. I gotta bring them down to the powder coat guy. I just haven't done it, but I'm there. So a couple more days, get the powder coat, I'm good to go. So Meteor, and you know, now I got stars out last week. So, yeah, so Meteor is going to come back in the house, and I'm going to enjoy Meteor for a little while. Nice. But another update on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that game is still brutally hard. It hasn't changed in a week. Still incredibly hard. Every day. Every day. Kicks my ass every day. Gotcha. So that's what I've been doing, though. Okay. What about you? I bought two pinball machines. Two. Actually Thirty. Three? Yeah. I bought three. On Pinball FX 3, I got Circus Voltaire, what is it? Tales of the Arabian Nights and No Good Gophers. What did you pay for that? 20 bucks. So, for all you guys who ever bought one of those three machines and spent $6,000 to $8,000 on it, you guys are suckers because Ian got it for $10. I get to play it via the Internet on a keyboard. The best way to play pinball. Totally. By far. Oh my god. No, I've been having fun this week. Later at night, I've been streaming some Pinball FX 3 just because, one, I wanted to get our numbers up. Why don't we explain that to the people just so they know what you're doing here? Pinball FX or what are you talking about? No, no, streaming on Facebook Live. Okay, so Facebook Live has a requirement that we need to hit a certain amount of hours of Ty manuk這一क홀브이� www.willywinks.com I'm doing the Pinball FX3 because it's easy, number one, to stream that real quick, but two, that shit's hard and stupid. I hate Pinball FX3. Really? Just in general. Oh, I like it because it's like an easy way to play pinball real quick, but it's not pinball. It's hard. I hate nudging by pressing a button, although my nudging is better by pressing a button. True enough, true enough. But we can all agree that playing some of the classic games and some of the fun fantasy games on there don't exist. They're pretty cool. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. I understand it. I don't like to do it, but I'm getting better at it. I'm going to continue to stream on it. I actually bought a little USB camera of $20 on Amazon, so it's got a microphone on it. So you'll be seeing me with all the rest of the gamers on Facebook Gaming and we're gonna game and make millions of dollars and drive supercars and shit. No, they play Fortnite. Ask Jack Danger about being a millionaire. Alright, I wanna be a millionaire. By playing video games. He's one of the biggest streamers in pinball and he's not a millionaire. He's not a millionaire. But the biggest streamer in Fortnite, he's a millionaire. Millionaire. Isn't that funny how that works? God damn it. We got grown men working hard, doing their shit, and yeah, they're making some money, but not millions. And then this kid- The rigs are pretty impressive. Yeah. These kids just hook up their computer and go. Yeah, they just plug in their computer to their Xbox or their PS4 or 5, and they're like, yep, I'm doing Fortnite. Fortnite. Boom. Check me out. Give me a million bucks. Millionaire. All right. I'm gonna hop in my Ferrari and live stream from there. Boom. My Tesla. Boom. Fucking A, man. www.willywink.com All right, so anyway, let's get into some news. Shall we get into some news? News. All right, let's do news. All right, that was awkward and long, but here we go. So let's get started with Stern. Real simple. They're assembling the Avengers as we speak. So they've been shipping some stuff, but they are full-on production.oli saw the Holy Grail attraction, dang Kitzi, cat protection. new J- blinkparross And wow, is that a good game. I am very impressed with the amount that they put in that game. I'm impressed with the wire forms. I'm impressed with the overall execution of everything with the shots and the animations and how the animations actually match the art pretty good. I love, love the animations. I love that. Because it looks like a comic book. Artwork is pretty bad. I think it looked better than a comic book. It was somewhere in between like a good, I don't know, animated feature film with a little bit of comic book flair. That makes sense? Like it's higher quality than just a comic book. It's up there. I mean, comparing that to like the Deadpool animations, I really dig these. I think this is like a much more rounded, from what I saw, animation package from Stern. I thought it was probably their best animation. Well, they keep kind of getting better. They do get better. If you look at Iron Maiden, which believe it or not was like two years ago now. So, you know, Iron Maiden was good as far as the animations go. But then, you know, you move forward and you have Jurassic Park and then they did the cool Ben And TV clips just gone. No. You're always going to have those. You think so? Why not? Well, give me a property they're going to use that instead of their own animations. Any property that is a movie or TV show. Jurassic Park. Any movie besides Jurassic Park that is... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's more based on... It is. But they did not use any of the cartoon, right? That's my point. Starts is brutal, but man, I love the punishment. Thank you, Ryan Utech, you bastard. So let's get caught up with... Oh, we got stars! We do have stars, so that's why I wanted to kind of talk about it. Joseph Hood. Casey is shitting stars all over you, says Joseph Hood. Joseph Hood, is he the first person? No, no. Billy Y.J., drink bitches, sent 10 stars. www.willywonka.com We really didn't expect that. That's totally unexpected and totally awesome of you guys. Charles Thomas, you're 100% right. Without a doubt, Goonies would be not the Goonies without clips. Drew and Ian love drinking, obviously, says Dr. John. You're right, Dr. John. True story. It's how we cope with Mondays. Life. The Life But yeah, no, that's that. I think there are there are properties that you would do a disservice to by just doing animations like a Goonies. Well, I don't think I really like this Jurassic Park animation. Okay, but we need to talk about this because I would rather have clips from the movie, but they didn't follow the day. I would happen with your adventure. Yes. And, you know, Deadpool. I know it wasn't this comic book. Yeah, fair. He's fighting. Fair enough.selling No, they were kick-ass guys. And you could tell it was Arnold, but now with the LCD, if you want to do that, you need to get his permission. And they're not going to do that. Beatles, they didn't get the rights to show, they got the rights to the songs, but they didn't get the rights to show the Beatles in concert, right? I don't know how any of that works. I'm talking from an asshole in a basement in Milwaukee here. the 5 4 3 I think it depends on the property. George Gomez is a smart man. He is. He is. He's much smarter than me. Guardians of the Galaxy, they had some assets. Perfect example. Yeah, that is a good example. Yes. Okay. That would have sucked if it was all animated. Even though it was a comic book. But it was based on the movie, therefore you need the clips. Aerosmith, a newer game. They didn't have any Aerosmith assets. That was kind of new though. That was the first one. They were just getting off the... But they did all animations. They didn't do a single asset. But they were just getting started. Okay, fair enough. Fuck, that needs ice. All right, so anyway, so what are we doing? What are we talking about here? Assets. Assets. I love assets. All right, let's move on. Let's move on. So at the end of the day, we were impressed with the live stream with Jack Danger. Jack Danger knocked it out of the park. He did. You know, how often do you get to see Jack Danger go up against, I don't know- Raymond Davidson. Raymond Davidson. And Keith Elwin. And Keith Elwin. Jack, this is in no way a disrespect to you, and a lot of people pointed it out. Keith Elwin and Raven Davidson are obviously two of the best players in the world, and people are saying, like, this game kicked Jack Danger's ass. I saw a few times he threw up his hands and he goes, oh, fuck, and he, like, walked away because he lost his ball. Yeah. I was doing that with pinball effects, too. Yeah, and Keith Elwin and Raven Davidson, they're, like, explaining the game, and they're The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. diep.com. Just unfortunate. And that's what we do at Wonka. Sorry, everybody, but that's the truth. I can't help it. It's a physical thing. Would you guys give us four stars if we streamed? Nobody wants to see that. Nobody wants to see someone, because... Everybody wants to see this. All right. That's true. That's very true. But, no, there's that whole point of it is they want to see different things... Hey, Kaz. Sorry, Kaz is here. Kaz. Hey, Kaz. But yeah, you know, I don't know. They want to see things. Dr. John, see shit, not shit players. Yeah, exactly. They want to see shit. Jessie J, why are you laughing? Are you laughing at my nipple reveal? She's becoming a big fan of your nipple reveal. Jessie J, you're one of our Australian sisters. We love you. All right, we love you. All right, so two thumbs up so far? Yeah. Very impressive. What do you guys think in chat? What do you guys think of the stream, Jack Danger, everything, the whole Avengers reveal? You guys think they did a damn good job with it? Do you think two hours is too long and do you think they should be showing the game or should they be taking the glass off and going through some mode things so people can see? We asked way too many questions there. We just asked them like seven questions. Okay, okay, let's start over. Okay? Did you like it? Did you like the stream? We're getting a little more in depth than that. Nope, nope. Just tell us what you liked. Boom. Done. Let's move on. All right. So we're just moving on along, moving on along. So JJP, I'm hearing through the grapevine. Ian got a special rumor today. It's a unanimous rumor. Can we talk about it? Will we get canceled? We had a buddy say, are you really going to talk about this rumor? Well, yeah, because we don't have facts. He sent us the message and he was legitimately concerned. He said, we don't have any facts. We just have rumors. Are you going to say that on a live air? The show is like, we are the dumbest show. We don't. Well, first of all, we have five people listening to us right now. Yeah, we made $5.60. We're legit guys. We love all five of you guys. And thank you for the $5.60. We are appreciative. But, all serious. Fuck yeah, we'll share rumors. We hear something, we're going to pass it on to you. We're not going to fucking boast about it as it's fact, but rumor has it JJP reveal their next game this Friday. This Friday. And they will have games ready to ship by Friday. So this Friday as in 9, 16, 18, whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. So 18. So before before Deep Root reveals their shit, JJP is going to reveal their shit. Yeah. So we're going to be ready to ship. So what we're getting is JJP is going to reveal... And this is from a very reliable source. Yeah, so JJP is going to reveal... Inside JJP. I don't know. But no, it does make sense though, because if Deep Root is going to release on Monday, why not steal the thunder a bit and release your information on Friday? So it does kind of make sense. No, it makes a lot of sense. Don't you think though, you know... And be able to ship right away I hate to give Canada more credit But you know he been saying Not the country No no no the person Kaneda that they should have been giving out more tidbits to try to steal some of the thunder now. I was shocked there was nothing, really. That's what I'm saying. There's little bits, there's little hints, there are GNR hints. Yeah, but it wasn't like, okay, this game's coming to my... you know what I mean? The Deep Root I think did it right. Yeah. For now. At least. What they've been doing so far, I like that teaser. Yeah, you know, I thought they were trying to go all viral with it. Remember, like, what was that movie, Cloverfield, where they had, like, fake websites and shit up and they were trying this viral marketing and it got everyone psyched up and everyone thought a lion attacked New York? Sorry, Kaz says, Quick, Jersey Jack, call into the hotline and confirm. Yeah, yeah. So, our hotline, www.gmail.com The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. We don't have to. We might as well. Let's just get into DeepRoot. Yeah, we're here. We're here. What are we doing? So DeepRoot is going to be doing their reveal, we know, on Monday due to their teasers. So are you... Jesse J. 555 Drew's Nipples. Best comment of the night so far. And then Dr. John... My Australian brothers and sisters, I love you guys. Dr. John follows it up with 414 Dildos. Yeah, that's... Oh my God. You guys are awesome. Thank you guys. 5-5-5 Drew's nipples though? That's got some legs to it. Thanks Jesse. Only on the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast where you can have Drew's nipples as a phone number and dildos. Yes. Yeah. Rick McClung, I thought viral marketing too. Grow up you too. For hidden stuff, wasted my time and felt more dumb than normal. Rick McClung, I agree with you 100%. Me too. I was hoping there'd be something else that was a deeper meaning, but no, it was just a date. And then Kaz, kids, please ask your parents' permissions before you call 1-900-7-6-7. We're here with your poor man, $1 per minute for sexy pinball talk. Hey, do you like flippers? I do too. Do you like to hit a couple balls around? I do too. Tell me, what do you wear when you play pinball? Do you wear Jockton's Pinshades and look at Drew's balls while you play? If you want to know how to do that, look at episode 71 of the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Is that called ASMR? Oh yeah, we love the talk. Oh yeah. We have a hotline now. Billy's Pinball Podcast. We have a hotline now, Billy Wyjet. Yeah, we do. Yep. I've been waiting for Toy Story, Tim Lee. I don't know if it's going to be Toy Story. What do you think? Well, it's not going to be Toy Story. Guns and Roses. But based on what I'm hearing though, Toy Story might not be far behind. You know, if they're set up, they're tooling up, they might release Guns and Roses, they might start making them. Maybe they drop Toy Story for Christmas. That's a possibility. How many games do you think they're ahead right now? Designing? Designing. Like in the shoot, ready to go? Yeah, do you think Eric's on game number, what would it be, one, two, three? I think Toy Story's done. Yep. And I think the next one's probably being buttoned up. Yeah. Would be my guess. Yeah. I'd assume they're about two up now. Yeah, you're right. So after Toy Story, I think the other two are pretty much in the final stages. That's just a guess, but... I've been saying this since I've been in this hobby. Yeah. I was gonna say deeproot, sorry. J.J.P. needs to figure out how to get two games out a year, and they'll be okay. Right. So, anyways, Flip My Balls, baby. Thanks, Joseph. Yep, GNR is Friday. You're right, Charles Thomas, 100%. Friday is gonna be the reveal, guys. All right, so, like I said, back to Deep Root. Do you think they're gonna have games ready for launch? That to me is very interesting. Yeah, well, I just think that if they... Okay, they have this big reveal, right? Right. Tanyaigger Scott Deming Whichin historic 20 reasons why your call this filling out to send and tomorrow why showing agencies and e-learning in third and GIZ mess everybody around with really long reason to demand to go doing you know so if you have a change I'll have young years in not just about not yourself gave up thatüss speibalContribute about asking porn available there you and stay know you go to a performance it and i really have to do all a sport or a jokeasses are also now the lights is on spotted here And after like a month or so, what started happening? People are like, eh, I don't want to wait, right? I want to sell my spot. There's other shit, right? That happens with every year. Correct. That's my point. Well, so my point is, if Robert comes out and says, hey, here's Raza, it's awesome, and everyone's even like, this is super cool, but you might have to wait five, six, eight, ten months, that might be a problem for them. That's a big problem. Yes. Everyone thought the biggest question mark isn't necessarily the games, because we know they have some talent over there. It's manufacturing, right? Here's a better, this is an intuitive view question. Are you ready for this? He's pumped, kids. I'm pointing, I'm pumped. He's pumped. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're just listening to this show, I just want to let you know that Drew is pumped. Okay, go ahead, Drew. Pumped. Okay, what if- Don't ever do that again. He's flexing now. What if- He's looked like Kaneda for a second. I'm not going to show you my abs. All right. What if- What if Raza comes out and they sell out instantly and then that happens where they can't get them out in a timely fashion? Are people going to wait? If they can't get Raza's out in a timely fashion, are they going to wait? No, because I don't think there's that many people that want a Raza. Okay, but like I said, no, it's a limited run. We don't know. You think it's limited? It's a limited run. No, I think it will be. Okay. But those 200 people or 300 people, are they going to give deeproot their money like Spooky? Because see the thing... What do you guys think out there in chat land? Okay, let us know because the difference with Spooky is... We're going to you next. You know you're going to get your game, right? Right. Spooky, they're very trustworthy, you're going to get your game. Right. So the worry is not there that you're not going to get your game. Right, I get it. But now if you give your money to Robert and Deeproot and they're like, we're going to make these games over the next 12 months, are you so sure? Let us know in chat. Yeah, I mean, I trust the dude. They got the money. But it's not about having the money. It kind of is. Yeah, there is some of that. Because you need at least financial backing. We know he has financial backing. That's the key. But you still need to produce the games. I understand that. Okay. I mean, is your worry that, your worry is not that they're not going to, they're not going to make them because of financial issues, but just, they just couldn't figure out manufacturing? Is that your worry? Maybe. Okay. Just wanted to clarify that. Yeah, that's, that's kind of it. So more like manufacturing woes and they just can't make them. Yeah, something comes out of them. Or it takes forever. Yeah, yeah. Supplies. Yeah, whatever. The stuff coming from China. Oh, it can happen. Yeah, delays happen. Yeah. You know? Like I said, everyone trusts Charlie and company that I know I might have to wait two years, but I'm going to get this game. Well, here's another thing to think about, too. So if it is a limited run, it is their first game. They're already bleeding. We don't need another Lebowski debacle. Ricky, we kind of talked about that. I think the money's there. They're not. He's not going to go bankrupt, but it's just a matter of can they make those two Dutch bastards had no money to begin with. I don't know those two Dutch guys, but Robert Mueller seems to have his stuff together. Oh, Mr. Mueller. That's all. What else we got? Deeproot is so large you'd expect delivery within a week. I would assume so, yeah. People understand Spooky is a small family company. Yes, exactly. But, okay, they have zero reputation, though. Who wouldn't trust J-Pop? Oh, wait. Touché, John Arthur. Touché. I guess my point, my whole fucking thing is, with this whole thing is, Robert Mueller has the money, he has the backing, he has experience with certain manufacturing, and they've had time to figure this shit out. So what I'm looking at, and I'm hoping for, is a clean launch, minimal issues, and just get us some product out the door. It doesn't have to be the day of, I understand it's their first launch. You don't think they should have 50 games ready to go, though? It would be a bonus. It would be a bonus. I would expect the first game... I give it a month to get the first games out. How many? I don't give a shit. Get them out. First truck leaves the show. So, 25 games in a month. Sure. Okay. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. That's reasonable. Game two is going to be different. Game three will be different. We've been talking about these fuckers for so many years now that we forget that they're a new company. They've been in this longer than we've been in this. Exactly. We've been in this a long time. Anyway. So, no, I would say let's give them the benefit of the doubt. But let's get into something else, unless you want to go into chat. What's going on in chat, buddy? Brian Cosner says, oh, Charles Thomas, Dutch pinball game number two will come out. Charles Thomas, really. Deeproot paid all the previous Raza customers and have a legal obligation to provide machines to those that ask for a pin. Ryan Utech has Steven Bowden, the nicest guy in pinball. Steve's badass. I want to talk to Steven Bowden. If someone can get Steven Bowden on this show, we would love that. We can get him on. We can talk to him. You act as if we need somebody that knows who we are. I'm humble. I talk to Steve. I'm humble. I message Steve. I have two. We're just humble. That's all. We can get anybody on the show. Yeah. Hey, John Borg, you on the show? Silence. Well, John Borg's. Here's my John Borg story, all right? So at Expo, this is the famous Expo where Drew puked in the urinal. Before he pukes in the urinal, we lost him. Me and Eric, we lost him for a while.プiciogeni research study Parisан грadows on nutritin h3ea , Transcripts provided by Transcription Outsourcing, Inc. The guy says rub the nipples again, you can get whoever you want, Drew. Come to me, John Borg, come to me. But here, at the end of the day, though, when I was blanking, there was that awkward silence, and what did I do to make it even worse? I busted out my phone, I tried to go on Pinside real quick to see which games were there. What games did he fucking do? I'm sitting there, what games did he fucking do? God damn it. And then by the time I realized too much time had gone by, because I was drunk as shit too. You weren't the only one that was drinking that night. I just didn't throw up in a urinal. And I realized this has already gone so fucking south that it's just not... I said, John, I love you. I probably just walked away like... The better quick story from that... That was not good. Was when we were... I have messaged him since. I apologize. We were in that same area and Eric, tribe member number four or five, I think he saw Keith Elwin and he yelled for Keith and he goes, Hey Keith! Hey Keith! And Keith looked over and he had nothing. Eric was like... He just, he just froze and he didn't say anything. And Keith walked on by. Yeah. That was the highlight actually of my expo. It was so simple and so stupid, but yeah, he yelled for Keith. Keith looked and he was like, I don't know what to say. John Kossin. Lucky, lucky it wasn't Steve Ritchie. We actually talked to Steve Ritchie at MGC that year. We did, yeah. That was cool. Yeah, it was very cool. Someone clip that. Ah, right, you tech, fuck off. All right, for a couple beers I will act like about it. All right, Rick McClung, rub the nipples. All right, yeah, rub the nipples. All right. Okay, so let's get into, let's move on. Time to move on. Ah, fuck it. What have we got today? We're talking about deeproot. We got a top five today, don't we? We do have a top five here. Let's play the- Do we have cool time? And now it's time for everyone's favorite top five. Alright top five here we go we have a top five today. Is this like the Johnny Carson? Top five reasons. This is going to be top five things we'd like to see in the Deeproot reveal as far as technology Jan A cheating out them all peccat EEА Union, What company was it where they had like a coil? Chad help us out. But then they had the connector so you would just you know if you had to replace a coil Let's say you get the coil the wires are already set. They might be soldered on but there's a connector Right, you can just pop in so you don't gotta pull out your soldering iron. It's it's very easy. Just in general not that I don't like soldering. No I'm fine with soldering. I actually enjoy soldering. Yeah, it's fun. However, I think let's move past it. The technology has moved past soldering. I agree with that. We can do this kids. Look up They don't have to be pin stadium branded, but I think if every manufacturer... Scott's going to hate me. You're fine. You know, if you... He only paid us nothing. Bill Webb from Special Wind Lit, when he did his Whirlwind cabinet, he routed out the side of his cabinet. Yep. And he put the pin stadium lights in there so you could raise the play field without doing that. Right. Now, what if you just had your GI lighting like that, where it was just like a strip or some bulbs or whatever, but it was like embedded into the side, right? So yeah, it might not even be that, it might just be some regular sockets, but they're embedded into the side. So it lights up the whole thing, right? And if you want to just be stern and say, hey, we're just going to route this out, if you want to put pin stadiums in there, you can. Or you can buy our option. That's cool too. www.sccd.com It's time we had more modular components on fucking pinball machines. Kind of like we were talking about with the coils and shit. Yeah, let's think outside the box here and make assembly and disassembly super simple for everybody so they can all do this. Because now that this hobby is moving away from the arcades and into people's homes, let's make it more friendly for everybody that needs to replace rubbers and not so damn tedious. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Larry K. Sheats Jr., orbit ramps, Automated Amusements, Python Anghelo, Joe Kaminkow, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. and that's it that's literally at there's a tiny circuit board power supply and LCD so I think it can be changed and like I said people are gonna hate me hate me out poor man's pinball gmail.com let me know how much you hate me that's fine in the subject line say drew your nuts but you know I like my big head no I think you can be done differently Go ahead, what do you got? So, was that breaking down a machine or are you talking about the norms, the pinball norms? This particular thing, maybe they have retractable legs. Maybe you don't have to unbolt the legs anymore. Okay. Oh, that, I just thought of that right now. Like what if... Genius. What if the leg wasn't solid steel and you could just, it was plastic or something, some hard composite plastic? I know, I'm breaking the mold, right? Look at them. Amegis norm. The pinball show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. You could... Um, everything that you could think of, you could probably put on that rail for a very interactive lighting that's game specific. I'm gonna say it again. Tied into the code. It... Not just GI and flashers, which I know is code based, but... It sucks in today's world that you buy a brand new game and the play field isn't lit up. Yeah, I get it man. They just suck. So that's my number three. What's your number three? My number three... Lazy Power Man's Pinball Podcast. Yeah. Uh, this one they've kind of done, some modders have done. We're kind of talking about the legs maybe that fold up or whatever. Yeah. But they have those hydraulic legs and stuff because you go into your pinball machine, you got to lift up this big heavy fucking cabinet, you got to do all these different things and then you got to level your legs. Right. Level your legs? Yeah. Well, if you had little modulators on there, you could literally push a button and have them air controlled or something. Yeah. Sure. That'd be cool, right? Put them on your plastic legs. Yeah. www.gsmcpodcast.com This is a great time to spend money on. I think it should come in the packaging. I agree. And like you said... And I think if deeproot is trying to be different than everybody else, I think deeproot should really think about putting that as part of the cost of the game. Toppers for every game. Nope. Toppers for everybody. Vote for Ian. You get a topper and you get a topper. You get a topper. You get a topper. You get a topper. Is your name Zach Meny? Everyone gets a topper! Well, no. Zach's like, you give me 900. You give me 900. You You give me 900 You give me 900 Everyone gives me 900 Love you Zach Did you see that message somebody sent us in our inbox at the poor man They were like I think I saw the Alvira topper at the Halloween store And it was like $40. Ouch! Oh, so funny. My number two is kind of what Ian talked about earlier, alluded to with the rubbers. Easier playfield access top and bottom. I want to see it on a spit, like a rotisserie. Ooh. Right? Imagine if you had a rail that ran the whole length of the playfield from the flippers all the way up to the top, and then you could open up the glass and spin that thing. Yeah. Right? Because you've got to fix something, right? You spin it, it's right there. You could make the cables long enough, right? So you could do that. You either spin it left or spin it right. And then to your point about the rubbers, you would have, you know, I bought those those stupid little rubber tops for my firepower instead of the nuts. Yeah. Right. Because like we use these nuts and this hardware and these little rubber things cost nothing. You put them on there, you can literally pull one off, pull two of them off and pull off your plastic. And then the rubber is right there. So yeah, getting to the rubber's easier, getting to the lights easier. I think that's necessary. Okay, perfect. So there you go. And my number one. Number one. Oh, I forgot what it was. Read your notes, buddy. Playfield. It's tough as steel. Let's get done with the playfield issues. Let's make it where... Listen, you want to do it, let's do it. We'll just call PPG, okay? They're nationwide. They got PPG in Chicago. I know they do. PPG is the people that make Diamond Coat. Ian doesn't even sell this shit. PPG still can make Diamond Coat. Like, people think that Diamond Coat, that clear coat that they use to make diamonds. Carl Lutz, Playfield Access. Yes. Thanks, Carl Lutz. Thanks for verifying me. Diamond Coat didn't disappear, guys. It's still around. You can still get it. PPG still makes that shit. Nobody pays for it. Nobody buys it. Bring it back. I don't even care if it's diamond coat. Something as strong as diamond coat. Once again, is it $25 more at Playfield? Is it $50? Will we pay for it? That's what I'm asking. I would pay for it. Well, no, no. It would be more like $3 at Playfield. Are you serious? Oh, yeah. So why don't they just charge us an extra $10 and do it? Clear coats go so far, right? I mean, square footage-wise. Stern, are you listening? We haven't done this in a long time. Stern, are you listening? Stern, are you listening? Clear Coats Go So Far I'm not getting their playfields from Chicago. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. We love you, Randy. There's VOC restrictions are different in every state. You can find a state that has very low VOC restrictions. Wisconsin doesn't have VOC restrictions. You can spray that shit in Wisconsin. My logical brain always says, why don't they do it then? That's what I'm saying. Why not? They must get such a fucking deal on them. They don't want to. It would be too expensive to set up their own shop. But they can do it. They can do it. Okay. And Wisconsin's what? Half hour away, an hour away. So they can do it. Come here, spray it, get them done. It's a lot quicker and less distance than frickin' Germany. They could set up a little shop here and say, Hey, we just want you to do 5,000 playfields. Yeah. Simple shop. Sure. It wouldn't take much. Doesn't take much. Put a spray booth in it and you're done. Huh. Because for a company like Stern, it doesn't seem very expensive. It's not. Well then, why aren't they doing it? I don't understand why they do what they do. It doesn't make sense to get playfields from other places. We need you on our show. VOC restrictions in Wisconsin are... we can still do as nasty as we want, so we can get pretty nasty with the show. Mmm, interesting. My number one? You ready? Your number one, dude. Easier to remove glass. Make it hood-like. Pick that shit up. Oh, I just see so many broken glasses for some reason. No, because think about it. You know, removing glass, it's not difficult, but it's a pain in the ass at the same time, right? All right. So I'm just thinking if you have it built into the cabinet, where you either A, lift it up like a hood, or B, you know, lift it over. Okay. But it's hooked into the frame, basically. You don't have to actually remove the glass. Because, you know, people have broken glass. You see those pictures on Pinsight all the time, right? Yep. I'm always worried, like, I remove my glass a lot. I do a lot of shit with my pinball machines, right? Because I buy lots of stupid dolls and I put them in there. Well, one day I'm gonna break a fucking piece of glass and then what? Twin win has a hood, according to Ricky McClung. Twin win. What's twin win? I'm assuming that's a pinball machine. Ricky, you also said George wouldn't watch this and that's completely false. He's here right now. He's just lurking. He's lurking, totally. George Gomez, show yourself. All right, so let's look at this twin win here. Uh-oh, we're looking at it. Joseph Hood, Drew, that is your number one? That's dumb, no offense. Thanks, Joseph Hood. Well, I want, I don't know. I mean, one through five is always kind of tough, but I don't know. What? Joseph Hood, what's your number one? Jesse J. That's true laziness, my dudes. Oh, Jesus. It takes 2.5 seconds to get glass off. Wow, you guys are being ridiculous right now. Okay. The benefits of doing this shit live. Drew has amended his number one. P asp. As you fetch up to colonize相信 major soda americano' not bad I can't job sounds and usually say hi there your kid see yo' cane here was who was a guy you happy clar clar Bao as his law threw away class today treble Boose gently to Zago and a greatация he has his boat iowa the night kanulo not a day is try DNL All right, we're back, guys. We're back. All right, so Drew is fine. He's making it. All right, so we're going to do... To all you people, fuck you. Fuck you. Okay. We're going to do our tribe introduction today. We got a good one today. I'm excited about this one. Yeah, another good one. They're all good. I love our tribe. So, should we do a... Here is our current tribe list. Let's get into that. Last time we brought in Matt Michaels. There are 32 buttholes in our tribe. Look at that group. That's a good group of people. It's all lovely people. All lovely people. I would hang out with almost all of them. One cooler than the next. I don't know about number 19. I don't know about number 4. I was going to say, there's a few, but you know. Number 14 is a prick, but other than that, good group. How do you get into the tribe, Ian? Oh, we have the four pillars of excellence. Four or five? There's five pillars of excellence. Sorry. The fourth one is always so iffy on me. So number one, like us on Facebook. Super simple. Number two, and especially follow us on Facebook because then you get the notification when we go live. So do that. Make sure that's locked and loaded. And I think it's give us lots of stars. www.willywonka.com So at least we have one of the coolest ladies in pinball. Jesse J., you can get there too. Yes, you can. You just got to follow the pillars. And you're doing great. Number three is help us grow our podcast. A mention on a podcast, Jesse J., or just doing whatever you can to help us grow our podcast. She says, this is an outrage. I'm going to get myself inducted out of sheer spite. Yes, that's fine. That is the attitude we want for this time. You're in. www.pillarenumber4.com Let's do our Tribe intro. Intro. Thank you sir may I have another. Poor Man's Pinball Tribe. Thank you sir may I have another. Poor Man's Pinball Tribe. Thank you sir may I have another. Poor Man's Pinball Tribe. Right now, yeah! New Tribe member is... Did it come up? Yep, here we go. New Tribe member is Frieden Liebe. Frieden Liebe. Frieden Liebe is one of the coolest pinball personalities out there right now. She has a fantastic baseball group. It's called the Pinball Super Friends. So if you are not familiar with this, please go ahead and join that group. Her mission statement, and I'm going to read it kind of verbatim a little bit here, to seek to make arcade culture accessible to all players. Player of color players, female identifying players, trans players, non-binary players, gender non-conforming players, disabled players, children players, all players. That means changing the conversation about games, art, arcades, culture, and the norms. Talk your life out loud. She just wants pinball to be accessible and she wants arcades to be accessible. Yeah. I love that. I'm not going to get too, what's the word, sentimental here. I have a special needs child. I don't talk about it very much. But, you know, just for her being inclusive with everyone, that is so cool to me, and she deserves a spot in our tribe. So we welcome you with open arms. Absolutely. Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Knapp Arcade, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Knapp Arcade, The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, www.willywonka.com Thank you so much. Yeah, and this past month, past month she's been working on Safe Cracker. How cool is that? Yeah. Safe Cracker. That's, that's unique. I'd love to get my hands on a Safe Cracker. That's one of those like, I'm gonna call it a novelty machine that like everyone needs to experience. Yeah, but it's fucking cool. Yeah, super cool. Very cool. Super cool. So welcome to the tribe. Welcome to the tribe. Welcome very much. We have an applause button. Hold on, let's bust that shit out. I know. Every time we do that I feel silly. Push the damn button. Well, welcome, welcome. Yeah, be lazy like Drew with his glass. Oh, boo hoo. Sorry, Jessie J said the next episode of Jessie J's Pinball Adventures is going to be called Drew's Nipples. If you do that, Jessie J, you will be well on your way to becoming a tribe member. I mean that, but you need to put it up there for everyone. Brian C is like, where is this coming from? No context, okay? I just wanted to say, Jesse J's Pinball Adventures episode number, I think you're on seven or eight, Drew's nipples. And we'll talk about it. Okay. We'll talk about it. Let's talk about those things. Frieden, how do we say that? Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. Frieden. invite to the actual tribe uh the secret pinball tribe and that's pinball tribe tribe member mike williams says i call it a pain in the ass machine fred hopkins says safecracker is awesome yes it is awesome yeah i've never played a safecracker i would no i have not either i've looked at it i've seen it uh every i usually play as a dangerous cracker really that was like the worst dad joke I love it. Dad joke episode. Too cool. No, I've never played a safe crash. No, no. They didn't even have them at the shows. Didn't they have it at the... They might have it at Expo. They had it at Expo. I just never got it. There was people in front of it. Yeah. I think it was there. That's one of those games that everyone wants to play. It's on their list. Absolutely. Yeah, super cool. All right. So let's get into our mailbag. Mailbag. Mailbag. Alright so let's get into our mailbag. Mailbag! Mailbag! Eddie's Mail Call! Alright we have a couple, we have a very special one. So I'm going to read this. It's rather long guys but it's sentimental and I love it. To give you some background on this. So I don't know, when was this? A few months ago, it was last fall, I believe, Mr. Pete Quint, I think he's number 14. Try to remember a number who gives a shit. We love you, Pete. Feel like Bob Uecker in Major League. So he has a band, and it's the Nacho Street Band, and they actually were trying to raise money with Project Pinball, in coordination with Project Pinball, to put a pinball machine Stanley Phelps, Sears Chase, Martin Anthony, Throughout the wolf The Wicked heures So he wrote us a nice little note here and I'm going to read it verbatim. Here we go. Ready? I'm ready. I'm going to take a sip here now that I have this nice cold drink. With our nice glasses. Plus we'll build a little tension there. All right. Here we go. Greetings, buttholes. Of course it starts out that way. This is Pete Quint, Tribe member number 14 with an exciting announcement. The Nacho Street Band has done it. We met our fundraising goal and now have enough money to place a pinball machine in the Ronald McDonald House of Central Ohio. The band wanted to personally thank you for your support and contributions to the cause. A special shout out to Terese Edwards, Tribe Member Number 31, Tish, for her wisdom, encouragement, and continued support in Columbus. Couldn't do it without you, Tish. Now, due to the stupid coronavirus, the Ronald McDonald House is closed to everyone but residents and staff, so it could be quite some time before we can place a machine on location. With that said, the band wanted to get your feedback on what machine you think families would enjoy at the Ronald McDonald House. Ultimately, the decision will come down to approval from the facility, but that doesn't mean we can't start brainstorming. My guess is that a table like Stern's Playboy may not fly. Just spitballing here. If you have time and want to shoot us a suggestion, please head over to the Nacho Street Band Facebook page, give us a like, and let us know what machine you would put in the Ronald McDonald house. Please remember that the band's Facebook page is family friendly, so please refrain from posting the typical memes you're used to seeing on the poor man's page. What does that even mean? Dude, I know what you're saying. Josh Mudd, you're not allowed to go there and post anything. You're right. I'm looking at you, Josh Mudd and Christopher Franchi. See, he already knew. Again, a huge thank you to all the poor men and women listening out there for your support. We've made a difference and surely will bring smiles to the faces of the kids for years to come. So the beautiful thing about Project Pinball is they maintain the machines for life. Yeah, we... And that's the key here. We are super happy to have been part of that. We contribute to the raffles. We do that. I've contributed thousands of dollars to those raffles. I've never won, thanks. But such a good cause. They do good work. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm giving Natural Street Band a round of applause. Should we give them some cheese slices? Give them some cheese slices. We got cheese, kids. Super cool. We're glad we got them. We're glad we got them. We're glad we got them. We're glad we got them. We're glad we got them. We're glad we got them. We're glad we got them. We're glad we could help. We're going to be doing more stuff like that. Like I said, we like to do it because, you know, that's what this is about. Yeah, it's all about fun, family, friendship, drinking. Well, not so much that, but, you know, and having fun. And then at the end of the day, you guys send us memes about Batman's dick, but whatever. I digress. It happens. All right. So, no, great job. What games would you put in a Ronald McDonald house? The first thing that came to mind was something like a Whitewater or... Well, I just think any game. Or if we go with a newer game. Yeah, Hot Wheels. What's some of the newer games? Hot Wheels would be a good one? Hot Wheels would be a good choice. That would be really cool, I think. You know what? Turtles. Or Turtles. Oh, it's a gas kicker, though. You don't want to do that. Yeah, I'd say Hot Wheels is more approachable. Yeah. My vote's Hot Wheels. I would say Hot Wheels. Otherwise, um... How about you guys in chat? What do you think? Eh, Deadpool would be a good one. Yeah, Deadpool is a fun one. Yeah, Deadpool. You know, anything from Stern in the last few years. I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, that'd be fun too. Yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy actually would be my vote. So, thanks Billy Why J. He sent us stars. He's the one who helped set up our stars. Yeah, thanks Billy. Irony! Our tip cup isn't working but that's alright, we'll fix that later. Yeah, I mean can you think of a game, a Stern game recently that wouldn't go good there? Erik Quindel , I forgot JJP, Willy Wonka would be a fun game. Yeah, get a Wonka. Teresa Evers wrote Willy Wonka, there you go. Yeah, that's a good one. What else we got? Theme Not Right for Deadpool? Well, kids like it. But yeah, I think Willy Wonka or Guardians would probably be my choice. Like I said, Turtles would be okay, but that game's a little hard. Should we read the Jason Crawford email? Yes. Yeah, this is a pretty fun one. We had this week. This was like, I don't think this is a legit thing. Oh, this is hilarious. But it was awesome. I don't know if it was a language barrier thing or if it was a bot. This is from Jason Crawford, this email. Hello, sales. My name is Jason Crawford and I came across your company on a potential purchase of pinball. I will appreciate a link or a catalog to your pinball. Thanks, Kaz. Kaz sent us 100 stars. So that's exactly word for word how we phrase that. Thank you Kaz by the way. Drew Bovear responds, Hello Jason, we are not a pinball company but a podcast, an internet show. Are you looking to purchase a machine as I do have several for sale Regards Poor Man And then Jason Crawford replies What is the price And Drew says I have a firepower for Jason says I said Jason you sound like a bot Are you a bot, dude? And then he goes into, in all caps, can you kindly get me a quote for three pieces of the firepower for $2,300 with tax without shipping? Thanks. Yes, it'll be $2,300 times three. Three pieces of the firepower. Please, please buy three pieces of my firepower. Could I have three pieces of the firepower? For $2,300. His words. It was the fucking funniest thing. You gotta love those spam bots. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, Jesse J said, Waz would have the same problem then. Oh, kids won't have any idea what Wonka is, says Billy YJ. Oh, man. Waz, maybe. But you know what? Waz and Wonka, though, I think would resonate with the kids. Right? Okay, well. Right? It's magical. ZOR ticks��나 그런데 An sensor The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I always thought you were solving this shit. No, you know what? Like, I kind of knew that, but I never really thought of it when I'm in the moment. So yeah, I'm going to start opening my coin door a lot because the wife will yell at me and I'm like, what? And then I'm like, oh shit, just open the fucking coin door. If you're at home, you can go change your clothes if you have an accident, says Brian Gosner. All right. Sorry, we lost you there. Um, yeah, shitternet. We missed all of that? All right, I'll go into it again. What the hell? So he basically said modern games, Stern games, you can use the coin door ball saver. You can have that setting turned on. So when you have to take a shit, you can open up your coin door, and the ball will drain or whatever. It won't count as a lost ball. And when you put the coin door back on, it will auto plunge or whatever, and your game will go on. Can I ask a stupid question? There you go. The Shitter Riddle is solved. Open up your coin doors. All right, so what do we got left? That's it. That's it. We're done with mailbag. We did good. So Drew, what did you learn today? I learned that Jesse J. loves my nipples. Yeah, I do too, though. It's nothing new, man. No. People love your nipples. My nipples are a real thing. Yeah. I learned that people don't like lifting the glass like a hood. Fuck. I learned people were pretty harsh. I learned people got upset about that. It was just two people. I think you're overreacting a bit. I learned that Zach likes to give out toppers for $900. He does. You get one! Alright, so that's it. That's a wrap up. Guys, did you have fun today? We had a lot of fun. Alright, so we should probably play the Flip N Out Pinball ad. We didn't do that in the middle of the show, but we'll do it. Flip N Out Pinball. You want a new Stern? Boom, we have you covered. You want a new Chicago Gaming Company remake? Boom, we have you covered. You want a brand new shiny from JJP? Guess what? Boom! We have you covered again. P3 Multimorphic? We can do that too. We got mods, shaker motors, even some used pinball inventory. Flip N Out Pinball also sells the stair climbing Escalera hand truck. Email Zach at Flip N Out Pinball or call or text 812-457-9711. Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. Flip, letter N, Out Pinball. www.willywonka.com We'll see you next week. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Lee gave us one star. Jesse J says, take my money? Take my money now! Are you saying you want my shirt to stay on, Jesse, or off? I don't get it. I just, maybe she's talking about the shots, because I think that'll be fun, because people are probably going to want to see us get extremely drunk. Oh, it'll be great. It will be fun. 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