# THIS is Why Stern Pinball's Next Game has NO HYPE! **Source:** Cary Hardy **Type:** video **Published:** 2025-09-03 **Duration:** 16m 54s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bfRcUiNW18 --- ## Analysis Cary Hardy critiques Stern Pinball's teaser for their upcoming Star Wars game, arguing it generated no new information and failed to build hype compared to past reveals. He identifies multiple factors dampening enthusiasm: Star Wars fatigue from repeated releases, leaked information suggesting a 'safe' design, Disney's regional licensing restrictions blocking European release, and anticipation of a prettier 50th-anniversary edition in 2027. Hardy emphasizes the game's critical importance to Stern's market position and broader industry health. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] Stern's Star Wars teaser revealed only information already publicly known (Star Wars, Spike 3, September release) with no new details to generate excitement — _Direct analysis of teaser content; comparison to past Stern reveals like Guardians of the Galaxy_ - [HIGH] Disney's regional licensing model requires separate multi-year contracts (minimum 3 years upfront payment) for different geographic regions, making European release economically unfeasible — _Cary's detailed explanation of Disney licensing structure and Stern's decision not to initially release in UK/Europe/Africa_ - [MEDIUM] Leaked information suggests the new Star Wars game will be another 'safe' release, with veterans finding it unimpressive while new players may enjoy it — _Cary references unspecified 'information that has been allegedly leaked out' and 'other information I've received'_ - [MEDIUM] A Star Wars 50th-anniversary edition is expected in 2027, causing potential buyers to delay purchase of the current 2025 release — _Cary's prediction based on Stern's pattern of releasing anniversary editions; added in post-production editing_ - [HIGH] Star Wars is Stern's biggest-selling franchise and this release's performance will signal broader industry market health — _Cary's statement about Star Wars being their 'biggest seller franchise' and the game's importance to the entire industry_ - [MEDIUM] Secondary market prices for pinball machines are declining, including for established games like Foo Fighters Premium — _Cary's personal observation that he'd receive ~$6k for a Foo Fighters Premium, less than original value_ - [HIGH] John Borg designed both this Star Wars game and a 1992 Star Wars pinball game, making this his second Star Wars design — _Cary's closing statement: 'This is John Borg's second Star Wars game. The first one he had was in 1992'_ ### Notable Quotes > "So, we didn't learn anything new except the title. That's all we got. Nothing new, nothing new to chat about, no excitement, no hype, nothing." > — **Cary Hardy**, Early in video > _Core criticism establishing the central thesis about failed teaser marketing_ > "It's money. That's the end result and reason behind this. And it's mainly and due to Disney because Disney decided to basically break up their licenses into regions across the world." > — **Cary Hardy**, Mid-video > _Explains the economic rationale for regional licensing restrictions_ > "If they can't sell through and it's another kind of meh release like King Kong on their Star Wars, then definitely the market is due for a correction." > — **Cary Hardy**, Later in video > _Compares Star Wars to King Kong's disappointing performance; frames game as industry bellwether_ > "If a company goes down in the pinball industry, that affects all manufacturers. Maybe in a good way, but maybe in a bad way because it creates uncertainty in the market." > — **Cary Hardy**, Mid-video > _Discusses ripple effects of manufacturer failures on industry ecosystem_ > "I think the bottom bar that we're trying to reach for here is maybe it'll be better than Steve Richie's attempt at Star Wars." > — **Cary Hardy**, End of video > _Sets expectations low by referencing prior Star Wars game; suggests community expects incremental improvement at best_ > "I I don't have the energy to play that game. I've seen people that do really well on that game...I'm like, 'No, I I don't have that much energy to play pinball.'" > — **Cary Hardy**, Final segment > _Personal critique of previous Star Wars game's demanding gameplay mechanics_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer; subject of criticism for weak teaser marketing and regional licensing strategy | | Star Wars Pinball (2025) | game | Upcoming Stern release on Spike 3 platform; September 2025 launch; John Borg designer; subject of low hype analysis | | Disney | company | Star Wars IP licensor; controls regional licensing agreements with high multi-year contract costs | | Cary Hardy | person | Content creator/analyst; declined official Stern reveal invitation; advocates for better marketing | | John Borg | person | Legendary Stern designer; designed 1992 Star Wars pinball and this 2025 Star Wars game | | Steve Richie | person | Designer of previous Star Wars pinball game; used as benchmark for minimum quality expectations | | Zack Sharp | person | Stern representative; responding to inquiries about European Star Wars release availability | | Spike 3 | product | Stern's hardware platform; Star Wars game running on this or 'most of' this platform | | King Kong | game | Recent Stern release; cited as example of 'meh' game performance affecting secondary market | | Guardians of the Galaxy | game | Past Stern release; positive example of teaser revealing playfield details to build hype | | Pinball Expo | event | Upcoming pinball event; Cary plans to evaluate Star Wars game there rather than attend official reveal | | Pinball Brothers | company | Boutique manufacturer; mentioned as creating 'fake FOMO' in recent news | | American Pinball | company | Transitioning to become 'Orbit Games'; relevant to industry uncertainty and manufacturer stability | | Spooky Pinball | company | Competitor manufacturer; Cary recommends getting on DRO list for their upcoming title | | Foo Fighters Premium | game | Game in Cary's collection; example of secondary market value decline (~$6k resale vs original value) | ### Topics - **Primary:** Teaser Marketing Strategy, Disney Licensing and Regional Distribution, Star Wars Franchise Fatigue, Community Hype and Anticipation Dynamics - **Secondary:** Secondary Market Health and Value Decline, Manufacturer Business Stability, Game Design Philosophy (Safe vs Innovative), Anniversary Edition Strategy Impact ### Sentiment **Negative** (-0.72) — Cary is critical and skeptical about Stern's marketing approach, Disney's licensing practices, and the game's likely reception. However, he expresses hope the game will surprise him positively and concern for the broader industry health rather than pure negativity. ### Signals - **[business_signal]** Star Wars game positioned as critical bellwether for Stern and broader industry health; failure would signal market correction needed (confidence: high) — Cary: 'If they can't sell through and it's another kind of meh release...then definitely the market is due for a correction' and 'This release, I believe, is going to be very important for Stern Pinball' - **[community_signal]** Stern using DRO demand signaling to gauge European market interest before committing to regional licensing expansion (confidence: high) — Zack Sharp's response to licensing questions directing inquiries to DRO list; Cary's interpretation that 'They are really trying to see if there is demand for it' - **[design_philosophy]** Leaked information suggests Star Wars design is intentionally 'safe' rather than innovative; appeals to new players but underwhelming to veterans (confidence: medium) — Cary quotes: 'seems like it's going to be...another Star Wars game' and 'wouldn't surprise me if they're going to try to play it as safe as possible' - **[licensing_signal]** Disney's regional licensing model imposes significant multi-year contract costs upfront, making European distribution economically infeasible for Stern (confidence: high) — Cary's explanation of Disney requiring minimum 3-year upfront payments per region; Stern's decision not to initially release in UK/Europe/Africa; Zack Sharp directing interest to DRO demand gauge - **[market_signal]** Manufacturer instability creating uncertainty; Pinball Brothers 'fake FOMO' tactics and American Pinball's transition to Orbit Games signal market stress (confidence: medium) — Cary discusses impact of company failures and transitions on buyer confidence across all manufacturers; ripple effect concerns - **[market_signal]** Stern's Star Wars teaser criticized as ineffective marketing compared to past reveals; revealed no new information beyond what was already leaked (confidence: high) — Detailed comparison showing teaser confirmed only Star Wars, Spike 3, and September release—all previously known. Contrast to Guardians of the Galaxy teaser which showed playfield details. - **[personnel_signal]** John Borg returning to Star Wars design for second time (1992 vs 2025) after 33-year gap; design continuity question (confidence: high) — Cary's closing segment: 'This is John Borg's second Star Wars game. The first one he had was in 1992 and now this is his second chance at doing Star Wars' - **[market_signal]** Secondary market prices declining across pinball machines, including established titles; impacts collector confidence and trading activity (confidence: medium) — Cary's personal example of Foo Fighters Premium declining to ~$6k resale value; general observation that 'prices are going down' and 'value of your machines are going down' - **[product_strategy]** Anticipated Star Wars 50th-anniversary edition in 2027 may suppress sales of 2025 release as buyers delay for aesthetically superior version (confidence: medium) — Cary added post-production note about Stern's pattern of anniversary editions; prediction that 2027 version will be 'aesthetically more pleasing' causing purchase hesitation - **[sentiment_shift]** Declining hype for Star Wars game despite franchise being Stern's biggest seller; Star Wars fatigue evident in enthusiast community (confidence: high) — Cary's observation of minimal excitement following official announcement, comparison to past game releases, and characterization of leaked impressions as 'another Star Wars game' --- ## Transcript It's been over a week now since Stern made it official on what their next game is going to be. And during this week, there hasn't been much excitement or hype among the enthusiasts. But why, Carrie? Oh, I'll feed you, baby birds. What are the three main things that we knew before the official announcement? Number one, it was Star Wars. Number two, it was going to be on the Spike 3 platform, or at least most of the Spike 3. And number three was that it was going to be a September release. And then we get this teaser. And what are the three things that we learn from this teaser? One, Star Wars. Two, Spike 3. And number three, September release. So, we didn't learn anything new except the title. That's all we got. Nothing new, nothing new to chat about, no excitement, no hype, nothing. And if you look back at the majority of Stern Pinball's teasers, they give us something. I mean, whether it be music or art, hell, even like Guardians of the Galaxy, they showed us the playfield before the official announcement. Things like that, parts of the playfield, a mech, they give us something. But this gave us nothing. As a matter of fact, the only thing that us enthusiasts were talking about was just how bad this teaser was. Now, of course, I'm not completely oblivious to this, guys. I'm well aware that I'm doing exactly what Stern wants. They want me to talk about them. I mean, there's no such thing as bad press. So, that's what's going on with this. But not only am I doing what you want, Stern, by talking about you, I'm going to oneup you on your teaser and show you what it should have been. Now granted, my teaser not perfect. I mean, I put it together in probably like 10 minutes. I gave all the information that you gave in your teaser, but I also gave more. In the same amount of time, I confirmed that it would be the original Star Wars trilogy. I basically put in the John Williams score that I'm very certain is going to demonetize this video. Once again, thank you to my Patreon supporters out there. But above everything else, I'm going to generate hype with that. gets some excitement because it brings in that bit of nostalgia and fear of Darth Vader being involved. Now, we don't have an official reveal date, but my best guess is that we're going to be getting it on this coming Monday, the 8th. I could be wrong. And then we have DRO coming in on the 9th, and the content creators are coming in on the 10th. Now, this is a pretty consistent pattern so far with Stern is the way they've been doing the invites and everything. Now, I was invited. I will not be attending. Thank you for the invite, but I will cordially decline this time around. You do have another game coming out here in a little over a month along with Pinball Expo. So, I'm not going to be spending my money or my Patreon supporters money on going to play this game when I will get a lot more time on it at Pinball Expo. hell, if not sooner, from my local DRO. Now, when it comes to hype, or the lack thereof for that matter, it's not just that the teaser fell flat on its face. It's that I think a lot of us, although enjoy Star Wars, are growing a little bit of like another Star Wars game. I mean, you got to think about it. They've done Star Wars a lot. a good amount, more than any other franchise, have they dipped their fingers into the Star Wars pie. And that's where we're at once again. Now, granted, this could be a different story, blah blah blah, but it's still Star Wars. And I think it's a little bit of just like, uh, it's going to be another Star Wars game. And with what little bit of information has been leaked out to those who have seen it or those who have played it already, it seems like it's going to be, and I quote, another Star Wars game. Now, I can't say that that's going to be factual, but a part of me is saying that I'm willing to put money down. No, I'm not. I take that back. But I'm willing to just say from what I've heard, if you are new to pinball or general public, then you're going to find the game pretty impressive. Whereas the veterans among us are going to look at this as being it's another Star Wars game. And and I hope I'm wrong. I'm hoping that the information that has been allegedly leaked out is bad information. Maybe the game will be amazing. But along with other information I've received in regards to what else is going there, I'm not too surprised if it's going to be a safe release. I mean, it's already safe because they're digging into their old reliable Star Wars bag. It's like, yes, the most popular franchise ever along with Pokemon, but with what they've been releasing recently, it wouldn't surprise me if they're going to try to play it as safe as possible. And why would I say that they're trying or going to be playing it as safe as possible? Well, and that's in regards to the other news that was shortly released, not really to the public, but was been well known announced since it came out. And that was due to the fact that Stern Pinball will not be initially, I'm going to use that word, releasing this Star Wars game to Europe, I think the UK and Africa, designated countries. They're not going to be doing any initial release. And it's like the big thing was like why why are they doing this? Is it because of this? Is it because of that? And but when it all comes down to it guys, it's money. That's the end result and reason behind this. And it's mainly and due to Disney because Disney decided to basically break up their licenses into regions across the world. And so, not only do you have to pay your licensing fee for the US, which is 60% of Stern's market, if not more, then if you want to ship your game to this area or that area, that's another licensing fee all together. And when it comes to licensing with Disney, it's not just like, hey, we want to do this, and Disney's like, okay, cool. You can do that and that's it. No, it is a multi-year contract, and it is not cheap. Disney is very proud and they really want to lock in that multi-year contract. And whenever they get this contract in, it's not you pay them as the years go by. They want all multi3 years. I believe three is the minimum upfront. Then that's when the bean counters really come into play because now due to the nervousness of the industry right now among all manufacturers and the buyers and what we're seeing, I really do think that Stern is like, you know, I don't think it this might be worth the squeeze to try to get these games overseas because you're going to spend more than likely millions of dollars. Maybe not that much, but you got to think about it. If you're going to be spending multiple millions or even just a million dollars, just let's just call it 1 million even, how many games are going to go over there? And are they going to be able to recoup that money due to the licensing fees? More than likely not. That is also why they are stating to those that are asking people like Zach Sharpe. And his response is if you're interested in getting the game, make sure you tell your DRO because that's what's coming down to guys. They are really trying to see if there is demand for it. If they see that the demand is there, then maybe they'll decide if the juice is worth the squeeze. But instantly, right off the cuff, they are seeing that the juice is more than likely not worth it. Now, again, this is Disney. This is not like going every title forward. This is more than likely going to be every Disney release going forward. I'm doing this portion right here. I'm editing the video. Actually, I've already put the video together, posted it up for my patrons, and I completely forgot to mention another valid reason why the hype isn't there for Star Wars. And that is for those of us that have seen the patterns of what Stern does when it comes to releasing their games. And when an anniversary comes around, they release an anniversary edition of that game, and it's a prettier version. Guess what's happening in the year 2027? The 50th anniversary of Star Wars. So, that's also hindering the hype for the initial release of this game. I think a lot of people I think a lot of people are going to wait. They're like, "Okay, there it is. Do I buy this now or just hold off until the 50th anniversary?" That's more than likely going to be aesthetically more pleasing. Now, this release, I believe, is going to be very important for Stern Pinball. And not just for Stern, this is going to potentially set the tone for pinball going forward because like I stated, Star Wars is their biggest seller franchise and everything that they've had. And if they can't get that to sell out with 770LE and you're not even including the Europe in that, if they can't sell through and it's another kind of meh release like King Kong on their Star Wars, then definitely the market is due for a correction. I mean, with the most recent news with Pinball Brothers trying to create fake FOMO and then American Pinball is turning itself into Orbit Games, this affects every manufacturer. If a company goes down in the pinball industry, that affects all manufacturers. Maybe in a good way, but maybe in a bad way because it creates uncertainty in the market. if they see a pinball company go down, it's not like, "Oh, there another one bites the dust now. I know that I could put all my money in this manufacturer." No, it makes it to where people are like, "Whoa, something's going on. Maybe I shouldn't buy a game because maybe something else is going on and I don't want to be stuck with a game that I potentially won't be able to get parts for or will just go completely down the drain in value. So, we want this release to be good. We want it to be. I don't sit here and hope that Star Wars just completely flops. I don't hope for any manufacturer's release to be a flop. But I'm saying that if this release is potentially meh, then we are in for an awakening because whether you're close to this or not, the secondhand market is definitely prices are going down. The value of your machines are going down. And we can sit here and go back and forth endlessly about how you shouldn't be buying your games. It's not an investment blah blah blah. I can I mean like I'm talking to a damn wall of some people around here. But like the point is even the old games, they're going down in value. I'm watching the prices there. There ain't no way I could get anywhere near like what my Foo Fighters premium is. I'd be lucky to get maybe six for my premium Foo Fighters right now. Lucky. And I'm in the market to eventually sell some other games. Not because I have to, but I want to make room for what is coming. It's not that I need to move games because I'm getting nervous. It's like, no, I need to move games because I know greatness is around the corner. Speaking of which, if you have not put your name on the DRO list for Spooky's next title, you might want to do so. So, look, I believe that's all I'm going to say in regards to what is currently going on with this lack of Star Wars hype and the nervousness in the market and the lack of you people over there in Europe not going to be able to enjoy this game. It sucks. And all I could say is at least it's just Disney and um not every game. But who knows, maybe there will be enough demand to push Stern into purchasing the license for that particular region. I just don't see the demand being that high right now. That's the main point on this is that the license cost a surplus amount of money. And for how many games? maybe a couple of hundred maybe. So, in a nutshell, I do not harp on Stern for not putting this game overseas. It is definitely Disney for this reason kind of thing, but I I do harp on them for not providing a more entertaining or interesting trailer slashteaser to help build up the hype, especially since this release is pretty damn important. But who knows? Maybe this is just kind of like a slow roll out and when the game finally gets revealed and we see everything, it's going to be amazing. I just I can't say it with a straight face because I have my doubts, but I'm willing to be surprised. So, what's your thoughts on all of this? Let me know in the comments section down below. A special thank you to all my Patreon supporters out there for your monthly contributions. Very much appreciated. and I'll see all of you at the end of the video. [Music] This is John Borg's second Star Wars game. The first one he had was in 1992 and now this is his second chance at doing Star Wars. And I think all all of us I think the bottom bar that we're trying to reach for here is maybe it'll be better than Steve Ritchie's attempt at Star Wars. I think that's the the bar that we're setting right now for Star Wars is just be better than the last one. And for those of you out there that really love your Star Wars from Steve Ritchie, nothing against the game. I just that I I I don't have the energy to play that game. I've seen people that do really well on that game when it comes to their score and they're hitting that action button and getting their multiplier up to 40x or whatever and they're going through and doing stuff and I'm like, "No, I I don't have that much energy to play pinball. I I'm not doing that. _(Acquisition: youtube_auto_sub, Enrichment: v1)_ --- *Exported from Journalist Tool on 2026-04-13 | Item ID: 8f45078d-f798-400f-969e-bc61bae4b443*