# Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Pro (Stern 2020)

**Source:** Mystery Pinball Theater 3000  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2021-04-08  
**Duration:** 85m 25s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRulu7qcquk

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## Analysis

Stream gameplay of Stern's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2020) Pro pinball machine featuring hosts from Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 and Tee'd Off Pinball Podcast playing and analyzing the game. Discussion covers gameplay mechanics, design criticisms (van rejects, flipper ergonomics), artwork praise for Jeremy Packer, and community sentiment that TMNT works better as a rental than owned machine. Hosts debate shot difficulty, compare to other Stern titles, and reference ROM mods using 1987 cartoon artwork.

### Key Claims

- [MEDIUM] Kyle at Stern Pinball creates the tutorial animations shown in TMNT using After Effects — _I just learned Kyle does the Stern tutorials that show on screen... Kyle is uh Kyle's an After Effects whiz... He does these things_
- [HIGH] The van rejection mechanic occurs repeatedly and frustrates players, happening at least three times during the stream — _It comes in there. It stays in there for a little while... It looks around and goes, I don't want to be in there in the truck. And then it comes back out... That's the third reject... Those rejects are for real_
- [MEDIUM] Backhanding the left ramp becomes difficult as the flipper coil warms up during play — _the fact that backhanding the left ramp becomes difficult as the flipper coil warms up_
- [HIGH] A ROM mod exists that substitutes the standard Stern game with 1987 cartoon artwork and animations — _this is a mod of the ROM that substitutes obviously the 1987 cartoon with the actual Stern stuff... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is so much better with the cartoon code hack_
- [MEDIUM] Stern's EULA enforcement is primarily protective rather than actively litigious against ROM modifiers — _I have it on good authority that that EULA is pretty much just to protect Stern against whatever they want to be protected against... In reality, Stern doesn't really care. It's more to cover their butt_

### Notable Quotes

> "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a great rental. I think that's where we're... I think that's the solution we're coming up with guys."
> — **Host (Manu)**, ~01:45:00
> _Consensus opinion that TMNT suits rental model better than ownership, suggesting the game has limitations for long-term appeal_

> "I don't own pinball machines because I hate pinball machines. I want to rent... There's a reason for you to buy. And there's a reason for me to rent."
> — **Host**, ~01:42:00
> _Host explains philosophy of renting vs. owning machines, relevant to streaming/content creation lifestyles_

> "This game, I like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Okay, I like totas... I want to like it... This game could be awesome. But it would have to be physically changed completely overhauled."
> — **Host**, ~01:15:00
> _Mixed sentiment on the game—appreciates design intent but sees fundamental flaws requiring overhaul_

> "Jeremy Packer is a freaking master. I just stare at this... You just want to pull the playfield out and put it on your wall."
> — **Jon Hey (Don't Panic Flip)**, ~01:19:00
> _Praise for artwork/aesthetic design by Stern artist Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti)_

> "I don't mind the one really tough shot on the game. But then there's one sucker shot... that's not fair because I actually hit the truck if I can't hit this shot it's because I'm not being accurate enough."
> — **Host**, ~02:10:00
> _Distinguishes between legitimate skill shots and poorly-designed 'sucker shots' that feel unfair due to technical issues_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Stern Pinball | company | Manufacturer of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles pinball machine being reviewed |
| Jeremy Packer | person | Artist at Stern Pinball known for TMNT playfield artwork; also goes by 'Zombie Yeti' |
| John Borg | person | Legendary Stern designer referenced for his work on Guardians of the Galaxy, The Walking Dead, and Metallica; hosts discuss his left-side playfield design philosophy |
| Kyle | person | Stern Pinball employee who creates tutorial animations for pinball machines using After Effects; met by host at San Francisco city championship |
| Dwight Sullivan | person | Stern Pinball code designer credited with Monsters, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and other titles; discussed as struggling to balance difficulty across games |
| Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 | organization | Media/streaming organization hosting this content; also operates Free Gold Watch arcade in San Francisco Bay Area |
| Tee'd Off Pinball Podcast | organization | Pinball podcast referenced in stream title and by participants |
| Don't Panic Flip | organization | Pinball streaming and content platform; hosts mentioned in stream (Joe C, others) |
| Straight Down The Middle: a pinball show | organization | Pinball YouTube show; hosts mentioned (Zack) as appreciating TMNT game and comparing to Avengers |
| Free Gold Watch | organization | Arcade operated by Matt Henry in San Francisco Bay Area; owned by Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 |
| Micah | person | 11-year-old son of host; currently holds highest score on TMNT at the arcade location (39 million) |
| Greg | person | Machine operator providing TMNT rental to the host; described as 'terrific' and helpful |
| Guardians of the Galaxy | game | Stern pinball title designed by John Borg; referenced for comparison to TMNT shot design |
| The Walking Dead | game | Stern pinball title designed by John Borg; referenced for deeper rule set than TMNT |
| Metallica | game | Stern pinball title designed by John Borg; referenced in discussion of designer philosophy |
| Jurassic Park | game | Stern pinball title compared favorably to TMNT by multiple hosts; noted for difficult C and O shots |
| Total Nuclear Annihilation | game | Spooky Pinball title referenced as traded for The Walking Dead due to deeper rule set preference |
| Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory | game | Classic pinball title; host's stated preference as next machine to own if choosing |
| Monsters | game | Stern pinball title with poor theme execution; designed by Dwight Sullivan; criticized for layout and theme mismatch |
| Tron | game | Stern pinball title referenced as preferred over TMNT by host; noted for simpler rule set |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Game mechanics and shot design, Van rejection technical issue, Flipper coil warmup affecting backhand difficulty, Artwork and aesthetic design praise, ROM mods using 1987 cartoon graphics, Rental vs. ownership strategies
- **Secondary:** Comparison to other Stern titles, Streamer lifestyle and machine access

### Sentiment

**Mixed** (0.55) — Hosts appreciate artwork, music, and core rule design but are frustrated by mechanical issues (van rejects, flipper ergonomics). Consensus leans toward TMNT as a good rental experience but not ownership material. Some hosts prefer it to Avengers, others find it inferior to Jurassic Park. Tone is playful criticism rather than hostile.

### Signals

- **[community_signal]** Active streamer community engagement with live chat participation, score tracking, and viewer interaction during gameplay (confidence: high) — Multiple chat interactions, score leaderboard tracking (son's 39M as high score), viewers asking for machine identification and gameplay tips
- **[sentiment_shift]** Strong consensus that TMNT works better as rental than owned machine; hosts express content with temporary ownership model (confidence: high) — Multiple hosts conclude 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a great rental.' Host notes rental allows trying different machines without long-term commitment.
- **[design_philosophy]** Van rejection mechanic causes repeated ball returns; occurs at least 3 times during single gameplay session, frustrating players and raising quality control questions (confidence: high) — Host describes ball entering van, pausing, then exiting multiple times. 'That's the third reject... Those rejects are for real. I wonder what they could do about that.'
- **[design_philosophy]** Designer Dwight Sullivan characterized as struggling to balance difficulty across games; noted for both success (TMNT) and failure (Monsters) (confidence: medium) — Host: 'Dwight Sullivan struggles, I think, to satisfy everyone... He kind of nailed it with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' and 'Blame Dwight Sullivan for monsters.'
- **[market_signal]** Secondary market activity: hosts trading machines frequently (TMNT for Deadpool, Congo for The Walking Dead); suggests active rental/trade economy among collectors (confidence: medium) — Host mentions trading TMNT back for Deadpool after 2-month rental. Other host mentions straight trade of Congo for The Walking Dead.
- **[personnel_signal]** Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti) confirmed as Stern artist handling TMNT playfield artwork; receives extensive praise for design quality (confidence: high) — Host: 'Jeremy Packer is a freaking master... You just want to pull the playfield out and put it on your wall.'
- **[product_concern]** Backhanding left ramp becomes increasingly difficult as flipper coil warms during play, suggesting potential design or manufacturing tolerance issue (confidence: medium) — Chat comment: 'dislike the van rejects and the fact that backhanding the left ramp becomes difficult as the flipper coil warms up.'
- **[technology_signal]** ROM mods with 1987 cartoon graphics improve visual appeal significantly; community prefers modded version to official Stern animations (confidence: high) — Host demonstrates ROM mod. Chat comments: 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is so much better with the cartoon code hack. I love my Jeremy Packer mod.' Hosts note standard animations give 'uncanny valley chills.'

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## Transcript

 I don't think you got your sound. I don't think you got your sound. Hello everybody, welcome to Al Anonymous at the Pinball Theater It said your thing, I don't know if we got your Wait a minute, we did get your sound, didn't we? Darius, who's Darius? Where's Al Anonymous? Down here stevedale 1986 wow you're one year off from this cartoon what's up welcome to the theater all right all right here's what we're doing this is not a regular this saturday don't expect me to be nice on saturday like i'm like mr host other days today i'm gonna just be angry at this machine so that's gonna happen Actually, I can't be angry at this machine right now. I'm just... That's you. I'm just gonna... I'm just gonna... I'm just gonna play and see how bad I get. Yeah, Pinball, you can go to hell. Alright. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Very fast. But did you hear it on the way in, Al? You should hear it on the way in. If I got it wrong, I'm going to try and fix it. Very fast. It's fun. Scoot got his cabinet yesterday. Not sure when he's going to stream it. Steve, Scoot was in here last night when we were riffing to Mortal Kombat. Scoot jumped in right at the last minute. He's like, ah, I missed riffing Mortal Kombat. I'm like, yeah, you got to catch us next week. But, um, what's up, Austin? Good morning. But, um, yeah, he, I miss riffing Mortal Kombat. Yeah, you miss, we did Mortal Kombat last night. We did the first half. Oh, that movie is so good, so bad, so good, so bad. We did the first half. You can check, catch us for the next half, um, next Friday. We're going to finish it up next Friday. but Scoot so excited as soon as Scoot came in the chat everyone asked did you get one of your tables yet? did you get your real table? did you get your VPN table? and he said yeah and they said they were going to try and set it up and stream it next week so exciting to see Mr. Scoot playing real pinball I'm so excited holy smokes I'm going to be so excited to jump on Scoot's channel and watch them play Real pinball Alright I should say physical pinball I don't say real pinball Because pinball on virtual is as real as virtual can be Alright let's play some So my son My 11 year old son currently Has the highest score on this in the place Now we only got this We got this last week We got this last week And I he's played it actually more than me. I just learned Carl does the stern tutorials that show on screen. He does? The turtles are at it again. Saving the city from another villain. Carl does them? Intrudos. Encourage people to have fun. These? Carl is uh Carl's an After Effects whiz huh He does these things huh So he does So that's cool wow That's that's You know what Carl You know what Carl And Carl's super nice too I met him once at like a city champ Here in San Francisco He's super cool Alright Let's choose my turtle So Micah My son Micah likes turtle power Because of course it goes right into multiball Problem with turtle power Um He did a stream of him making Oh that's cool What's up Gio That's cool He did a stream of doing it I should have watched that stream because I'm an After Effects guy and I really need the help. B Don Q, what's up? Welcome to the theater. I'm struggling with dolphin phobia. I recall snorkeling in Hawaii and I dove really down deep and passed through a dolphin's fart bubble. It tasted awful. Okay. B Don Q. Noted. Noted. What's up, Hop Dog? Hello, hello, hello. Oh no, why? Is that for a hot dog? So if you like Turtle Power in the beginning, I don't see a way to start an episode. So, for example, to start episodes, you need to hit the left and right ramps. Once you hit that right ramp What's up Arnaz Once you hit that right ramp You're not starting a thing So I'm gonna I'm gonna do Michelangelo for a minute Oh jeez Okay Grammy Thank you for the sub right off the bat, I appreciate it welcome back to the theater you are an absolute legend and you know this ah, I started an episode wait, what did I do? no, that's a skill shot and I locked the ball, okay, good, good, good so, let's do I feel episodes should always be lit yeah have you played this, Owl? Don't panic flip. Good morning, buddy. How are you? Okay. Huh. There it comes right back at me. Boy, that must be... It must be an issue with this game. It goes in. It stays in for a little while. It looks around and goes, I don't want to be in the truck. And then it comes back out of the truck. Yes, unfortunately, I'm not a fan. Okay, yeah, the van rejects are for real. I wonder what they could do about that. You know, it's like an after-party third-party mod that somebody's going to build. It really frustrates Micah. Oh my god, my son hates that. No, this is a pro. This is a pro edition, Terry. What's up, Terry? And Terry, this is a mod of the ROM that substitutes obviously the 1987 cartoon with the actual stern stuff. Let's go for pizza. Nope, nope, another reject. You almost ask yourself, did they really test it? Well... So those rejects stop. That's the third reject. That's the third reject. So that's the kind of thing that would really frustrate a player. Wow. Well, the Eula's gonna bite you. I'm not the owner. Yeah, I've seen the mods in the videos for other Sterns, too. Uh-oh, Stern's gonna send you to the principal's office for that mod. I have it on good authority That that Eula Is pretty much just to protect Stern Against whatever they want to be protected against They're not actually going to pull the trigger on somebody For using it If they do want to talk Eula I'm last in line I think there's a whole company called Scorbit That might have the crosshairs on their back So they're going to go after people who are actually making kind of big money. And even Scorbits not really that worried about it. You want to see a dick move by Stern, then they'll start doing that. Oh! Don't get me started. Yeah, in reality, Stern doesn't really care. It's more to cover their butt. Terry knows firsthand, because there's an entire community that's... Already emulating Stern Tables. Hundreds of Stern Tables. The regular animations give me uncanny valley chills. I wonder if a potential licensor asked for it. Ah, insider information. Not really, Al. Not really. Them making that YouTube video with the same title as the Australian dudes was kind of scummy. Oh, interesting. Hey, don't panic flip George, what do you start with? Who do you like to start with? I have no clue Uh, we the pros So I should focus on fixing their support department Yeah What's up, Ice Kidoo? Who do you start with, George? Who should I start with? Dang it Is there a magic person? A magic turtle? I could start turtle power What's up Surreal Let's do episodes then Why do I have much to learn about patience Let's take these turkeys out Not much house me I'm me, I'm good I'm trying to put up I have a very low I have a very low Low goal today Beat Micah's 39 million Beat my son's 39 million I don't even know if I can Um It's cool It's very cool to see these mods though Stern has great text support And some tables have excellent animation But just those darn licenses Before a personal mod Hey why not Man I was up late what's up surreal My strategy on this game is just to order pizza and not to play it What up what up Hey Al you hate turtles and you hate this game Or do you just hate this game and you like Turtles? I don't mind. I absolutely don't mind people who don't like a particular game. It's all subjective anyway. It's not all subjective. There's a level of objectivity of a terrible pinball machine. I don't think this is terrible. And I love this in the way of I know it's going to go away in two months. So that's why I love it. Oh, that was a good layer shot. Not worth it at all, but good. The question is always, how do you feed that upper flipper? Damn it. This game, I like turtles. Okay, I like totas. What's up, Arshelts? Oh god diggity You guys are gonna see Horrible scores I just got this game I have a lot to learn about patience I just got this game sir I'm not very good at it right now Coming back Oh it's not coming back This game could be awesome But it would have to be physically changed completely overhauled. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like this game. I want to like it. Well, there's an argument for this game by... Frack you! That's like the Guardians of the Galaxy side. There's an argument for this game that it's a game that you need to not spend quarters on, but you need to have and play for a while. I don't know whether that argument equals love out of familiarity or just equals love out of understanding. Everybody's wondering where I get the 16 ounce bubblies. The tall boys. I got the tall boys. needed a Wonka break pinball room is getting warm oh what's up Chaffin what's up what's up I was just on Chaffin since 87 stream playing Willy Wonka so if you need to see some more Wonka go over to Chaffin at 87 Chaffin since 87 because they got the Wonka now and they got the power to do it definitely got the power to do it So anyway, like, I know, um, Zack. Zack at, um, um, straight down the middle. You know, flipping out, flipping out Pinball Zack. Jesus! Flipping out Pinball Zack likes this game because it grew on them as they played it. Um, they quit, they recently kind of did a review of this, and they're like, liking it more than Avengers I did and I swapped out Wonka for Turtles for a little while Wonka may come back Wonka now is back with my operator I'm guessing Costco no we don't get this at Costco we got this this full disclosure my wife is a doctor and they get they get like free I mean they're working but they get free kind of lunch and free drinks so she is she can get two drinks per day so she ends up coming home every day with two different bubblies maybe a grapefruit and a cherry or a you know blueberry and a thing so we have lots of bubblies tall boys upstairs um borg let's see smooth smooth oh she you got the medical grade bubbly that's right yeah we got that's got the coronavirus in it no the corona vaccine this has got the coronavirus in it get your coronavirus right now oh i like the rules on this game but dislike the van rejects and the fact that backhanding the left ramp becomes difficult as the flipper coil warms up Robert Blakeman says yeah they really overrated it uh said they might keep it over jp lakes i missed that one yeah they really overrated it said they might keep it over jp and e-h-o-h l-o-l um oh virus house of horrors thank you good morning good morning pinbot George, I agree I agree with both of those points I don't mind too much about the rules The rules are actually kind of cool The rejects are starting to get to me And the difficulty is not bothering me that much Jurassic Park is greater than TMNT Sure, okay Oh, how do you like it? Uh, hey, what's up, Nick? I, uh, yeah You know, one of the things I like is that it's a one of the things that I like is that it's a shiny new stern to play I think the the music and sound is amazing it's really good I really do I think the music and sound is really good the the artwork come on you guys zombie yeti is a freaking master I just stare at this I'm just looking at it like Zombie Yeti, holy smokes You just want to pull the playfield out And put it on your wall And be like, good I've only played a few games But this definitely felt funky to me I agree with Al Anonymous The van reject Under the flipper shots The ball hop setting On the top left flipper The clap points, etc I haven't played one But why do people not like it What's up Beards Live? It's beautiful. I wish the animations followed his style. Yeah. We need to get Zombie Eddie some animation lessons because Zombie Eddie could probably do an amazing job at the DMD stuff. I just took George's lead and put the 87 stuff in there. TMNT got so much better with the cartoon code hack. I love my zombie yeti Deadpool Yeah zombie yeti holy smokes This is a fast game it is This is way faster than Wong Kushafen This game is ridiculously fast But here's the thing I'll give you guys an example of Of games that I like Tron Much simpler rule set But I'm digging I like Tron more than this. Alright. Wow, did you see that? That was amazing. Boop. I like Tron more than this, but... Ah, didn't do it again. Shoot. But I still like this. I don't like Star Trek at all. I'm talking about the Star Trek. The Stern Star Trek I like TNG I like Jurassic Park I have never played an Avengers I think Jurassic Park is a deeper game than this Let's see. I still want to own a Wonka. Sorry. Wonka just kicks my ass. It's such a great game. I like Tron Retro Flare 2 more than Tron. Terry, I love your marketing schemes, Terry. Terry, you don't gotta push it on us. We're all waiting for it. This layout is actually pretty Tron-ish. Never realized until now. Tron Congo. Somebody yesterday said this is like Spider-Man reversed. If you look at it a little bit, it's kind of a little bit like Spider-Man reversed. I noticed you can almost trap on the upper flipper like I just did. If my son comes back, I'll let him play. You guys will see him blow this game to frack up. He loves this game. Damn. I really gotta... You gotta move it around. You gotta... You can't let this game push you around. You gotta move this game around. It's like playing Beatles. People hate Beatles. I love Beatles. But you gotta manhandle Beatles if you don't want it to left and right drain all day. Captain Zanzibar, what's up? Happy Saturday. Happy Saturday. I think what... I think I see what they're going for with the upper flipper passage. Coldozer, what's up? Is this your house or do you own an arcade? It is my house. It's my garage. I have a virtual pin, a full virtual pin cabinet in my office upstairs. And my arcade is Free Gold Watch. I'm saying my arcade because, you know what? It's my arcade. Matt Henry runs it, but it belongs to MPT3K. Let's see. I love those guys over at Free Gold Watch anyway. uh dozer in the house too what uh what's up yeah call dozers here stoked stoked on the turtle table either way i'm incredibly jealous of your access to pinball team oh steve steve dale i i i'm jelly of people like don't panic flip like people who has like just games just games for days i mean and and skill games and skill to to play to play a game and just go all right we're gonna get to visitor center just to announce that you're gonna get to visitor center and get to visitor center for me is like i wish i was young and and and fast and handsome and strong and has a great mustache. Georgie George. And they're green. If you're chance for school, You got to eat my sugar poop Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles I got Mutant Ninja Turtles You got Mutant Ninja Turtles Eating all your lunch today Everybody Come on back, that's right, come out of that hole I'm being too loud now I need to be quiet Got it. Got it. Got the friggin' super. Damn it. This turtle falls so... Mr. Stanley, I'm winning at the cover board as turtle has to be part of the turtle team. It's hard to... When I get a free game, I always munch on some pizza. Oh! No! No! Okay. Nasty shredder, construction on the mousers is complete Thoughts on the big picture from Borg being Godzilla? Thoughts on the puzzle picture from Borg being Godzilla? I made it to Visitor Center once Because I did it on stream so there's proof Does that turtle van door open too? No, the turtle van door doesn't open It's just a... This is a pro, so it's just a prop Oh Uh-oh Mike, that's a really interesting set of toppings. Hey, guys. On the Borg puzzle, Borg posted a picture in the next JP pin, and it's a puzzle. It's got a Speculation's Godzilla puzzle. I'm losing too many balls. I'm losing too many balls. Ah, shoot. Give me control of something here. I got one! Take the inner loop or center ramp. That wasn't gonna work. That's the last of them. Your monsters have failed, Batman. Gosh. One more. Uh-oh. Family's home. Okay, let's see. You're very skillful at... You're very skillful. Kept all those balls in play. if only you would hit some of the lit shots. Don't be afraid to turn to the social media posts that was puzzle pieces. JK. I gotta look that up. I don't know about the board puzzle pieces and stuff like that. I'm gonna take a look at that. Was it mostly black, yellow, and red? Godzilla pin where you are Godzilla fighting other monsters. Sounds wonderful. Piptroni posted a close-up of one of those pieces. Reminds me of some of the RetroPity. Alright. Okay. Thank you for that. Dang it. I get a follow and then I lose the ball. Thank you. Dante's Mark. Thank you for the follow. Where's Micah? He's upstairs? Oh. Oh. That's a pretty good bonus right there I didn't know he was upstairs I would have told him to come down and play I thought he was with you Alright Dante's Mark What is your initials? We're going to put you in there Was that Mrs. MPT3K? It is Mrs. MPT3K It's also a little Little MPT3K No, no, no, get me down, get me down, bro. DDD? You got it. DDD. Boom, you're the grand champion on this right now. I'm proud of you. No, thank you for the follow. What's wrong with pineapple on pizza? You are now the Tomatello champion. I don't know about pineapple on pizza, but, you know, for each his own. The heart wants what the hearts want. Let's do that again. Okay, 31. My goal is 39. Because that's what Micah made. 39. 39. You from SD? How often do you stream? I stream Saturdays sometimes, but lately I've been streaming on a Saturday mornings here in San Francisco. I stream Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays. Tuesdays at Pacific nighttime. Thursdays is my only afternoon in San Francisco. But if it's closer to where you are, then there you go. Choose your turtle. You guys all good? They wanted to know if you were Mrs. MPT3K. She's not, but she's hot, so I'm going to give her a kiss. Going upstairs before my wife gets home. Bring the baby with you. That was just weird. I'll see you guys in a little bit. Tell Micah to come down if you want. Oh yeah, unless you have chores for him. He finishes chores. He finishes chores? Alright. Did you get the Leonardo Katana shooter knob for this pin? No, this is not my pin. This is a rental. Yeah, South Dakota. You're in the Bay. Yes, I am in the Bay. I'm in the Bay Area. I am the Bay. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. I guess there are multiple DDDs. What brought you from New York to San Francisco? College? Good question. You just saw her. You just saw the reason why I left New York and came to San Francisco. Here's your answer. That's an easy one. Any other questions? Why did I chase that woman across the Across the country Because she had custody of my two kids And I wanted them back I had to chase her and live with her Oh that's nice I just turned it from a nice story Into like this terrible story I got 31 but I need oh and if don't panic flip if you're still here I managed to make it up to team up which is kind of cool right so team up is if you complete four episodes or not complete but just do four episodes I managed to make it to a team up Which was kind of cool Now that's That's a tough That's a tough thing to kind of I was confused I had no idea Here it comes again Yep You could hit that puppy solid And it comes right back out Ugh Yeah bro There's gotta be some kind of third party thing you can do to Um Oh, did you get rid of it already? Is it gone? Hey, what did you replace it with? So TMNT is gone. It's not in your house anymore. Traded it back for Deadpool. Wow, you got Deadpool back. Wow. Wow. get to the pizza parlor for your skill shot you know what's funny here's the funny thing about pinball people who buy pinball machines if you don't own a pinball machine you sense you gotta get the sense of like oh if you have a pinball machine you have to like You have to love it And you have to keep it forever and ever I'm not sure if that's like Right for everybody It's coming back For me This is why I don't own pinball machines This is why I don't own pinball machines I want to try out everything I don't own I don't not own pinball machines Because I hate pinball machines I want to rent There's a reason for you to buy And there's a reason for me to rent if you have the opportunity to rent. I rent so I don't have to fix things. Greg is an amazing guy. He's absolutely a terrific operator. I've had a different operator before who's not the nicest person in the world. This guy is great. And I got this for two months, and then it's gone. And I get to try something else. I'm not an owner. You should never ask me for advice About whether you should buy a pinball machine or not Ever I am not the person to ask Ask chat, ask someone who owns a machine Uh, nah, they hold values Yeah, they hold value, sure And Gio, you know better than I do Gio, you own games, right? So you know better than I do I kept TMNT until I got the final battle Traded it the next day Oh, you did? You finished it, okay See, George is the kind of person Don't panic flip Totally fine. He finishes the game. He trades it and gets something else. Except for team... Except for... What is it? Except for... Total Nuclear Annihilation. I traded Congo, which I love, for... The Walking Dead for a deeper rule set. Straight trade. Congo? very very simple rule set. Walking Dead very deep rule set. Just seems like prices are going up right now. When I get what you're saying though I wouldn't want to be stuck on one table. I'd love to play this game for a while for the nostalgia and then bounce onto something new. Yeah but George hasn't finished TNA. So it's gone. Once it's finished, it's gone. Before and after. Walking. Before and after. Walking dead. Full sharks. I still have TNA. I will focus on Reactor 9 once I get to escape Nublar. Don't panic flip is like a mini Carl D'Python Anghelo. I wouldn't want to get stuck on that. So if I had room in my house for one more pin, then I would buy a pin. And the purchased pin would sit next to probably the rental. That's. I'm pretty sure that's the way I would roll. If I had room, I don't have space for... I don't have space for two pins. Shoot for center ramp for your skill shot. Got it. TMNT would be a great rental for me. Yeah, it's a great rental. I think that's where we're I think that's the solution we're coming up with guys TMNT is a great rental I think we should put that on Stern's website Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle makes a great rental I got to play TMNT in the wild yesterday Captain Zanzibar, what did you think about... T... T... Wait, what'd you say? What is this timeout? Oh, weapon. Crap. I missed it. There it goes. Gone. Alright, no problem. I got to play T&N Way of the Wildness today. You don't need a couch. Okay, here's that super. Damn it. Get over. Damn it. Ah, damn it. Damn it! So funny. Trying to hit that super. Trying to hit that super, I lost all the other balls. Going endorsement. the rentals are the renters are way to go in pinball especially for streamers yeah pinsomnic you got me down to a freaking t right streamer renter five minutes away from me there are 50 more pinball machines and i have full access to that location so i am absolutely not the person to ask for any advice about pinball tna is awesome i love the feel in the soundtrack you can replace your fridge with a pin grace pierce life we don't need we have a freezer too we have an extra freezer so i guess that's the thing you missed the message above but with so many virtual pinball machines you've played at physical tables you've rented mbt3k what pin would you buy right now if you could willy wonka willy wonka And I know George I know That's not your favorite game in the world Um I Willy Wonka Hands down And I know it's not a lot of people's favorite But I'm not saying it because I want to be anybody's Yeah I'm not saying it because I want Some Somebody else to like what I say It's Wonka Damn it It's not this It's definitely not this table Cold Dozer's like Yeah that's right Just get a cooler or something Just put the pinball machine Right in this spot I mean you're right It will fit right in that spot Very well Um Add a ball And flip flip What is the add a ball On this table actually worth it ooh maybe that's the solution to flipper fade just design of pinball machines to be fridges inside the cabinet I haven't played Wonka since all the code updates I love the theme and it'll keep your jumbo bubblies cold borgs who's the designer of guardians of the galaxy is that why you guys are calling this a Borg shot Is Guardians the same Who did these games Borg. Borg. I don't like how Borg designs left sides. It's not fair. Borg is mean. And The Walking Dead. And Metallica. sorry manu i'm not a bubbly lover try it at ick yeah it's it's it's an acquired taste really it's kind of like it's there's no sweetener in it what i love about bubbly is that it doesn't have any sodium there's some bubbly waters that actually add salt add sodium monsters monsters is kind of a i'm tempted to rent monsters because greg has a monsters i'm tempted to rent it just so i can see my viewership drop. But I'm tempted to render because I would like to try it. See if it has any redeeming qualities. You know what I mean? Monsters is so black. Monsters could have been so better. Even with the lower playfield, Monsters could have been so much better. Who do we blame for monsters? Who's the designer? It's coming back There's no way to shoot that shot solid There's no way guys To shoot that shot solid Here I go I think someone's shooting at me There's no way to shoot that shot solid, I swear. Blame Dwight for monsters. But didn't Dwight do... Stern is picking such a... Monsters looks very cool, the theme is great, but yeah, when I played it, I'd rather... I'd rather put, yeah. I couldn't believe how many people walked past Munsters at the Alamo Drafthouse here. Greg's Munsters was at the Drafthouse and everyone was just walking right by it. Not even thinking about playing it. I really need that weapon shot. Thank you. I see what shot I need. Damn it. Down to two. I got no dangers. Damn it. I couldn't do much there. Nope, they wouldn't give it to me in a grace period. Damn it. Woo! Wow. That was cool. Ha! One more light to start episode. Let's see. Uh... Service picking such a shitty theme. Let's see. Only redeeming rule on monsters is a 2x shot that is next to the pops. But the layout on the pro is tight. New code update coming 2025. Game of Thrones style. Dwight struggles, I think, to satisfy everyone. I think the kind of... He kind of nailed it with TMNT. Yeah. TMNT is fun. I think... I just think they needed to work a little longer on the play field just to... That's the clunky shot. The whole game is not clunky, but that's the clunky shot. Zars and GOT are maybe a bit too rule-happy and Monsters Away too light. I really love what he did with the new GOT code. Yeah, it was already a good game, but they made the game so much better. Let's do training. Nope. Nope. I would love to do training, but I'm not good enough to make that shot. And the shot's gone anyway, so. Placeholder message. Yeah, but I would buy another Game of Thrones Pro one day when I'm done trading out games so much. Ooh, I could have had it if I hadn't... Definitely a game I wouldn't mind owning, but I've already dumped so many hours into it on location, I'm not sure how much... I'm not sure I'd get much out of it. I feel like every pinball machine has to have at least one FU shot. There's one sucker shot, right? There's one sucker shot in every game where it'll drain if you miss it. But then there's one really tough shot. I don't mind the one really tough shot in the game. This, for me, would be the really tough shot on this game. Like, for me, the really tough shot on, say, Jurassic Park is either the C or the O. I think the O is the hardest shot for me. The C is pretty easy. the o i just don't have the accuracy for the o um now here's what it can't have it can't have a shot that's hard by design which means that truck i've hit the truck maybe one out of three times it'll stay in the truck and that's not fair because i actually hit the truck if i can't hit this shot it's because i'm not being accurate enough i think and i'm okay with it i'll give you one insane shot i'll give you one per table right um the ramps they don't give me any problem people have trouble with some of the ramps but personally this shot gives me trouble and i'm okay with that uh the easiest way to hit layer shot is on this is during multiball with two balls on the flipper oh yeah that's right so that's kind of like the um the uh we used to do that in Guardians of the Galaxy when you have Quill and you have two balls trapped you can hit that kind of Metallica scoop easier with two balls because one ball moves the moves the ball up a little bit yeah so I don't I don't I just I just I just don't like that this game makes that shot so hard and it's not that the shot is really that hard but i think it's because the shot means so much the shot means so much if you think about it spider-man had a under the flipper shot too right spider-man had an under flip of the shot too but it didn't mean a lot when you hit that under the flipper shot on spider-man it was like whatever But But if you Don't ever hit the Spider-Man under the flipper shot You're okay You know what I mean This is an integral shot to your game Right there Oh that was wrong Oh that wasn't it huh Oh there's an extra ball waiting Damn it Oh no Almost got borg again What do you want me to shoot right now Why are you playing rock music? Ugh. There goes my friggin' extra ball. What's up, Lead Sandman? Welcome to the theater. Oh, Multiball is here. Alright. Um, Doc Ockshot was... Uh, I almost had that extra ball. Doc Ockshot was like that, so I had to put a blue square rubber at the back of the shot to absorb the energy. Yeah, whack and it comes out I know exactly what you're talking about on Spider-Man Spider-Man Under the Flipper Shot wins the whole game It's super important Slam Duncan into the side Again with the rock music Darn kids Alright Let's just see how impossible this Leonardo shot is Time is on your side Nope. So what my son does is he'll shoot it and then quickly close. He's gotten good at that. He'll shoot it, quickly close the flipper so it doesn't rattle. Not quite. I'm serious. In the wizard mode, you can't beat the game until you hit the under flipper. Oh, is that for... I never made it to that far. I skidoo. I never made it that far into the game. I did not know that. But... But maybe that's just... It's... I still feel like that, if that's during a wizard mode, then okay. I'm kind of okay with it. Kind of, maybe. A little bit. Don't come back out, you son of a bitch. Alright, thank you. You need to stop telling me how to run my... Damn life! Oh, jeez. Don't throw it all away, spuds. That's my nickname, by the way, spuds. Boop. Maybe I should just go for the pizza parlor for ball three. Yep, and if I do, I'm going to get punished By this freaking game Can you believe this? I got three seconds to finish this mode. Never not calling you spuds. It's lit! What's up? Thank you for the tier one! Shoot Ah, you suck Every day we lit, yeah Every day we lit, yeah Every day we lit I love that intro Oh my god, I'm so glad I made it for you I get so hyped when It's Lit shows up Because I'm like... Every day we lit. Shoot right ramp. This is one of the most precise... Woo! Woo! This is one of the most precise tables I've ever played That's how you make it in there You rattle the hell out of it How's Turtles going? How do you like it? I like it, it's fun It's going away in two months That's the end of the story I think I've given everybody the same story I like it, it's fun There's some stuff that I would never buy one It's going away in two months And that'll be it But I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's amazing. You can do so much work on this table and not make any points. Actually, I think I'm doing work, but I'm not. I'm actually losing. So it's not like I'm doing that much work. You actually have to hit shots. And that get porked. Two month Ninja Turtle now, that's TMNT. Have you gotten to the Hero and a Half Shell challenge? Nah. I don't even know what that is, like, no clue. It's like one, two, three things. I'm on Leonardo right now. This is ball two. What's the Hero and a Half Shell challenge? Can you tell me like in really short? Like, I know Don't Panic Flip finished it. He got the final battle and then... Then the game was gone. That's how I roll. That's how I like to roll. How both flip at the same time and... Oh, you can just do it? That's a mode that you can just start. Hold up the Clippers at the same time before starting the game and scroll to that mode using Clippers. Thank you. It's lit. We're doing that next. I also, I do this so that you guys can tell me what cool stuff to try. My son and I love the co-op mode, by the way. We really like the co-op mode. That's a real kind of father and son. It's awesome because he feels like he's helping. I feel like I'm helping, you know. There's an extra ball in there that I want so bad. I want that extra ball so bad. I want that extra ball I want that extra ball I want that ball Gotta get that extra ball Gotta shoot the extra ball One time Get that extra freaking ball Shoot that freaking thing And give me an extra I got it? Nope Nope I got it, okay, I got it Alright, let's concentrate on other stuff now Damn it. I got the Mondo. Attaball. Guys, how do you get Attaball? I think I found out. You got to shoot the right ramp. Shia LaBeouf. I just play co-op. Yeah, four player co-op by myself. Multi. Totally feel you. That's kind of what I'm going to do. That's totally what I'm going to do. Nothing can stop the almighty Krang. Emoji can... I'm not in timer, right? Okay. You can play as each of the turtles racing back to their lair. Oh, that's what that was. I saw somebody doing that on a stream. Samtool has been adding co-op to some FP tables, and it's pretty cool. It's very cool. Co-op is very cool. I'll just play with him. Co-op is just like... We don't have to compete all the time, me and Micah. Because he'll usually beat me, but... If we play co-op, we really feel like we're doing like... It's cool. It's definitely cool. Ah, crap. One. One. One. Oh, crap. No. No. One. Oh, I'm missing my one, two, three shot now. Is the right sling broken? I don't know. Is it not firing? I heard your bonus, but I think I lost it. You can also do co-op plus competition if interested. Co-op plus competition. Two versus two or one versus three and stuff like that. Haven't seen it fire. Oh, no. This one here. Shoot. I hate asking Greg to come back and fix something. I hate asking Greg to come back and fix something. I'm at level 3 training. Oh, crap. Let's do it the safe way. Just like this. Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! Where's the training completed? Oh, at lair. Again on lair? Or... Oh, it's this way. Jesus. Oh. Give me another shot. Got it. Two more needed. Oh my god. Level 3 training is insanity. I missed it Got it Woo! That felt good, y'all. Did I finish it? I still didn't finish it. I still didn't finish it. Jeez. Tried the backhand. That didn't work. My forehand. I'm okay. You're okay, game. You're okay, game. Oh Jesus. Come on. Got it. This is the part where you have to take a rest. 3x training. I guess a slight negative to renting. It would be a super quick fix if you do it. Greg lets me do it myself, actually. He knows... Hey, what's up, Wind? How you doing? I didn't say hi. Greg lets me do it myself. He's like, look, if you can go in and do it. Because I've soldered things on pins before. It's only if I have the time. And I see it. If I lift the playfield... I'll do it afterwards. I'll lift the playfield. I'll do the switch test. I'll see if it's something that just came loose. If it came loose, Greg is happy for me to just do it. Because I can do it. But generally speaking, yeah. Rentals don't give you the keys to the thing either. Wonka is... Is Wonka out and Turtles in? Yeah. Wonka is currently out. Turtles is currently in. But Wonka is still in my heart. And it may come back. And I got Borg. I'm calling it Borg. I did a ton of work. Got Borg. That was nice to do full training on. I think it's full training. How many training levels are there? It's lit. Is it like just three levels of training or four levels of training? Ah, there's four levels of training. Level four training is probably insanely hard. Two X-Men. You can get to four. I'm not going to get to four. I'm not going to get to four. Oh, jeez. All right. I'm going to finish this game. Once we finish this game, we're going to try It's Lit's... MBT. MBT has Love for Lawler. Have you tried dialing in? Yes. Dialed in. Dialed In would be the game that I bought if it wasn't for me just loving the Wonka license. That's my childhood. I love that table. I love that movie. I watch that movie maybe once or twice a year. I just absolutely love Gene Wilder. But Dialed In is a very close second to that. I think Dialed In, honestly speaking, is the better game than Wonka. But the license pushes me past. Right? I think Dialed In definitely is the better game than Wonka, but... Uh, Goron, what's up? MBT, gonna have a lot of love for Toy Story, then. People are telling me, save your money for Toy Story. Oh, man. I still have to play a Hot Wheels, guys. I still haven't even touched... I haven't touched a Hot Wheels, and I haven't touched an Avengers. I think Dialed In is better, too. Yeah. But the theme for Wonka is great. Yeah. I can love a pin based on theme, visuals, and music alone. Exactly, Terry. Like, if they can grab your heart, everything else... Everything else is whatever. Fire! Welcome to the jungle! More training? Hell no, I'm not doing that. Excellent, my son. Let me try something here. You mother... You're too strong. Fracker! Well done, Slash. It's lit. I keep forgetting your initials, but what are your initials? It's lit. I keep forgetting it's lit's initials, but you're going in here, buddy. It's just ILP. Yeah, it's like... It's what it is. It is what it is. Your name will go down in history. You are now the Leonardo champion. Jersey Jack is currently rumored to be doing Toy Story. Game over, Turtles. See you next time. It seems about ten years too late. IMO. Toy Story. That's irrelevant, George. Stern just put on a Led Zeppelin pinball machine. I think JJP is a little more in the relevancy bubble than Stern is right now. Don't panic, Flo. Wouldn't that make Wonka 45 years late, too? It's like 80s fashion has made its way back around. Give me a break. Half shell challenge. I mean, Jurassic Park was super late too. Doesn't matter much. Jurassic World is being released. JP. Oh, timed out. So what's your guess on those puzzle pieces? I haven't seen the puzzle pieces. I just learned about them today. George just mentioned them. Woo! Let's do this. So what am I supposed to do here? What am I supposed to do here? Wow, he like gently picked her up by the hips. What am I doing here? Does that mean MPT should swap his Corn Star training shirt for a Johnson t-shirt in hypercolor? LZ isn't trying to appeal to families. I worry about Toy Story being a bit late there. Oh, okay. In another five years, I think those Johnson shirts were popular in the early 90s. What am I doing here? Just shoot, just, I'm assuming I'm just going to shoot the flashing lights, right? I'm just going to shoot the flashing lights. Let's see. finish these lights finish these lights oh crap Oh, that went all the way around. That doesn't usually do that. Nope. Nope. Damn it. So this is a terrible time, I would assume. That doesn't usually go all the way around. That's kind of cool. See, I'm not hitting my easy ramp. Didn't make it. Just impacted on the surface. Ah. Nope. Nope. Nope. This is awful guys. At least I know what I'm doing now. This is terrible. Make a turtle shot dammit it's saying. I was making turtle shots before I'm not doing it anymore. Okay, I'll tell you what. Can I do this? I can't do this. It won't let me restart. No one has played this mode. No one's telling me what to do. I can't make a shot either now. I think I've run my mojo out. You need to hit the right sling. Oh, wait, wait, wait. This is kind of cool, though. I like these little challenges. I'm not hitting things I'm not hitting things I was hitting so well during the game I'm so confused right now Is it just April that I have to hit? I guess so. Yeah, that flipper is hard to... Come back up, maybe. Oh my god, this is insane. I guess I'm setting the first level of high scores. right which are not very high oh you have to do every turtle i get it i get it and i guess the green shots add time got it okay that was almost death Raphael complete I really need to show Micah this mode This is really fun, it's lit, thank you This is kind of cool How quickly can you do this? That's the question See I've never I've never tried Escape Nublar Any of the Final modes Oh, that's not fair. If you make all the green, it will count as one of your turtle shots. Oh, interesting. So three greens will give you that turtle shot that you can't make. That I'm having trouble making. This is fun. Nope. Michelangelo complete Happy birthday Yeah it does I know it needs improving That's great Whoa it's lit I believe that's game over. Wretched reptiles. Oh, man. You have... I gotta show my son that. That's cool. And you can do the final battle, um... thing, right? Plays all four turtles to unlock. Um, Hopdog, will you be wearing a crop top on your next stream? Yes. The hop dog crop top. Run. Stop shredder from. Yeah. I think they definitely enhanced this home game experience by adding these things. These are really fun. Dude, the pizza time. The co-op in this. The fact that we can do co-op is going to make this game last a lot longer here in the house. Like I said before, I'm going to wrap it up, guys. But like I said before, I stream with my son. And then little Bubblegum comes over sometimes and we stream. And then my buddy Kirk comes over sometimes and we stream. So it would be really fun to have a three-player co-op. Or we can do that run there. I think, yeah, definitely fun for this game. Yo, in chat, can you guys tell me... Pizza time. Damn, he beat me there. Uh-huh, maybe that can be a channel goal one day, the hop top. Oh, by the way... by the way all right hang on hang on hang on hang on let's stop that for a minute um a couple of questions for you guys i have number one what how do i what do i need to buy because i'm gonna wrap it up i'm not gonna play anymore What do I need to buy, if you guys know, for direct sound out of a Spike 2 system? Does anybody know? I would love to get direct sound. But I don't know what to buy. Is it called like a pin sound or is it called? I have everything else I need. Wind Raider knows. Okay, one sec. Yeah, I would love to pull direct sound out of this. Doing it on a spooky table or a Wonka table is basically just line out. But Stern tables, right? I have the DMD capture stuff, but the DMD doesn't send audio, so I need the audio thing. And I will happily buy it just to enhance the stream a little bit. What is the other question that I had? It's lit. You're a legend. thank you for showing me that those extra modes those are going to be really fun to play with my son um i don't like when my color is that way let's let's go back to purple i like color purple um wind coming in hot pinball life headphone jack assembly Nice. Headphone jack assembly. Let's see. Pin Bot open internet. That's it huh? And then also make sure you have this. Wow, that's pretty cool. 50 bucks. View it in 3D. Really? Stop it, guys. Really, Pinball Life? View it in 3D. Okay. I'll be ordering one of those today. I love it. Thank you, Wind. And also... Oops. You're like Tony Zac Stark or something. I'll look for that next stream. Yo, you're like Tony Zac Stark. This here. Oh, I got a ground loop adapter. I got it. The ground loop adapter I actually have. A ground loop oscillator. I needed it for Wonka. So, yeah. Wind, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Wind Raider. Guys, go follow Wind Raider, of course. Pin Bot, close internet. Thank you, Wind. Thank you, everybody. Just swap that around. Yeah, when I get new machines, exactly. I got that down here. Where is it? Where is it? Well, I have it. It's in my capture kit. I have a capture bag. Good to see you, nerds. Thank you for the stream, MBT. Thank you for joining us, Captain Xanabar. And with that, I will see you guys later. Thanks for showing me how much fun slash terrible Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is. I don't know. I'm enjoying it. All right. Have a good Saturday. See you guys on Tuesday. No music. Where's my music? Oh, man. let's find the music where's the music there it is let's let's do this song this song rocks see you guys later We're going to go rate IE Pinball. I don't know what they're doing, but it's always fun to raid Carl's channel. So stick around.

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