# Pinball at the Lake 2019 - Finals

**Source:** IE Pinball  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2020-07-31  
**Duration:** 100m 47s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpCAJfR7A1k

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## Analysis

IE Pinball coverage of the 2019 Pinball at the Lake tournament A Division Finals, featuring commentary on gameplay across F-14 Tomcat, Demolition Man, and Stargazer. Mike Welsh and various guest commentators provide detailed rules explanations and strategy discussion as four finalists (David Oliver, Jay Collins, Ryan Krivenak, Karl D'Angelo) compete. Notable narrative includes Brian K's dominant performance on Demolition Man with a 1-billion point first ball.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Project Pinball charity is raffling a Jurassic Park Stern AC/DC Pro Vault Edition and Premium Edition, with $75 donations for 200 entries to children's hospitals — _Mike Welsh opening announcement_
- [HIGH] Kyle rolled over 10 million points on F-14 Tomcat earlier in the tournament — _Mike Welsh and Nancy commentary during F-14 Tomcat finals_
- [HIGH] F-14 Tomcat is designed by Steve Ritchie — _Mike Welsh and Raymond Ashby discussion_
- [HIGH] Demolition Man had a code update allowing the claw to pick balls (distinct from prior code versions) — _Mark Pollock explanation of game setup_
- [HIGH] Mark Pollock had Demolition Man in his house for approximately 2.5 years — _Mark Pollock direct statement_
- [HIGH] On Demolition Man, the secret jackpot cannot be used on the first super when the right ramp is lit, but can be used on the second super — _Mark Pollock rules explanation_
- [HIGH] Brian K achieved approximately 1 billion points on ball one of Demolition Man during the finals — _Commentators and visible scoring during gameplay_
- [MEDIUM] The left ramp on Demolition Man is death if the ball doesn't make it up and comes back down — _Mark Pollock strategy commentary_
- [MEDIUM] On Demolition Man with triggers enabled, every shot is worth 2 million instead of 1 million — _Mark Pollock rules note_
- [MEDIUM] Demolition Man was at Texas Pinball Festival and played harder there than at this tournament — _Mark Pollock referencing prior tournament setup_

### Notable Quotes

> "When it's good, it's good. This one definitely plays fast."
> — **Nancy**, ~1:30
> _Early assessment of F-14 Tomcat difficulty and pace_

> "The ball save is really short on this, it's about three seconds. So, even in multiball."
> — **Mark Pollock**, ~25:45
> _Critical Demolition Man rule impacting strategy and ball save duration_

> "I would go for that strategy anyhow because Demo time is very valuable and it's very easy to add balls to it."
> — **Mark Pollock**, ~35:20
> _Strategic advice emphasizing Demo Time mode value on Demolition Man_

> "I crushed him at a finals event. I think it was like literally like 3 billion to nothing."
> — **Raymond Ashby**, ~1:30:00
> _Reference to prior match outcome against Ryan K on Demolition Man_

> "I love demo time, actually. I think it's even more fun. Because you can always add the balls."
> — **Mark Pollock**, ~45:15
> _Commentary on Demo Time multiball preference vs other modes_

> "The one advantage to picking it is that you want to hit it up the center anyhow, so you can do the MLG, or I think it's MTL."
> — **Mark Pollock**, ~38:00
> _Technical mode strategy explanation for Demolition Man ACMAG/Super Jets modes_

> "That left ramp. If it will not go all the way up, you most likely will lose it. That is death."
> — **Mark Pollock**, ~25:10
> _Warning about high-risk left ramp shot on Demolition Man_

> "This game is just so much fun. There's not very much holding. Even in multiball, you don't normally cradle. It's always on the fly."
> — **Mike Welsh**, ~30:50
> _Commentary on Demolition Man's fast-paced, non-cradle gameplay style_

> "So, David Oliver, top seed. So, we're going to be F-14 Tomcat."
> — **Mike Welsh**, ~2:00
> _First game selection for A Division Finals_

> "Stargazer is a rip the spinner game. And that spinner spins. It is juiced."
> — **Raymond Ashby**, ~1:34:30
> _Brief description of Stargazer (third game) and its spinner mechanic_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Mike Welsh | person | Primary commentator and host for Pinball at the Lake 2019 A Division Finals |
| Nancy | person | Co-commentator on F-14 Tomcat game |
| Raymond Ashby | person | B Division winner serving as guest commentator for multiple games |
| Mark Pollock | person | B Division second place finisher, Demolition Man expert commentator, owned game for 2.5 years |
| David Oliver | person | Top seed in A Division Finals, played F-14 Tomcat and Demolition Man |
| Jay Collins | person | A Division Finals competitor, placed in top 4 |
| Ryan Krivenak | person | A Division Finals competitor, achieved strong performance on Demolition Man with 1+ billion first ball |
| Karl D'Angelo | person | A Division Finals competitor, top 4 finalists |
| Kyle | person | Tournament player who rolled 10+ million on F-14 Tomcat, competed in finals |
| Brian K | person | Tournament player with dominant Demolition Man performance, earned Golden Cue on Rescue 911 |
| Paul Daniel | person | Founder of Project Pinball charity, participated in tournament |
| Project Pinball | organization | Charity organization donating pinball machines to children's hospitals, running raffle for Jurassic Park games |
| F-14 Tomcat | game | Pinball machine designed by Steve Ritchie, first game of A Division Finals |
| Demolition Man | game | Pinball machine, second game of A Division Finals, owned by Mark Pollock for 2.5 years |
| Stargazer | game | Pinball machine selected as third game, spinner-focused game |
| Jurassic Park (Stern) | game | Stern pinball machine in Pro Vault and Premium editions, subject of Project Pinball raffle |
| Pinball at the Lake 2019 | event | Tournament event featuring A Division and B Division competition in pinball |
| Texas Pinball Festival | event | Prior tournament where Demolition Man was set up, reportedly played harder than at Pinball at the Lake |
| Steve Ritchie | person | Designer of F-14 Tomcat pinball machine |
| Stern Pinball | company | Manufacturer of Jurassic Park and other discussed machines |
| Jim | person | Owner/operator who brought Demolition Man to tournament with updated claw code |
| Rescue 911 | game | Game where Brian K earned Golden Cue earlier in tournament |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Tournament Strategy and Gameplay, Demolition Man Rules and Code, F-14 Tomcat Mechanics, Competitive Pinball Finals Format, Multiball Strategy
- **Secondary:** Pinball Game Design and Modes, Charity and Community Support (Project Pinball), Tournament Commentary and Streaming

### Sentiment

**Positive** (0.78) — Commentators express enthusiasm for gameplay, appreciation for tournament organization, positive recognition of player performances (especially Brian K and Ryan K). Mark Pollock provides detailed, educational commentary suggesting he enjoys the game deeply. Some frustration expressed about shot difficulty (left ramp on Demolition Man) but overall tone is celebratory of competition and community event. Project Pinball charity mention adds positive social element.

### Signals

- **[community_signal]** Tournament format includes educational commentary from experienced players (Mark Pollock on Demolition Man) providing rules clarification and strategic instruction to wider audience (confidence: high) — Mark Pollock detailed explanations of secret jackpot mechanics, computer awards, trigger gameplay differences, mode selection strategy to commentators and viewers
- **[event_signal]** Pinball at the Lake 2019 A Division Finals tournament with streamlined A/B division structure and multiple games competing for points across four finalists (confidence: high) — Tournament bracket showing David Oliver (1 seed), Jay Collins, Ryan Krivenak, Karl D'Angelo in finals; games F-14 Tomcat, Demolition Man, Stargazer selected
- **[community_signal]** Project Pinball charity actively engaged at tournament, running raffle for new Stern Jurassic Park machines to donate to children's hospitals, founder Paul Daniel participating in event (confidence: high) — Mike Welsh opening announcement about $75 raffle entries with 200-entry cap for Premium Edition, Paul Daniel credited as founder present at tournament
- **[competitive_signal]** F-14 Tomcat tournament play centers on lock accumulation for multiball access with careful shot selection to avoid drains; fast multiball scoring with emphasis on hot streak value accumulation (confidence: medium) — Commentators tracking lock count, multiball readiness, C-A-T letter spelling, hot streak mechanics; emphasis on staying alive and avoiding middle flipper drains
- **[competitive_signal]** Demolition Man tournament strategy focuses on Quick Freeze mode optimization for 3-ball vs 2-ball multiball access, secret jackpot timing, and Demo Time mode exploitation for ball additions (confidence: high) — Mark Pollock detailed strategy breakdown on Quick Freeze, lock freeze, secret jackpot timing, Simon vs Super Pops mode selection, Demo Time ball-adding mechanics
- **[design_philosophy]** F-14 Tomcat features fast, aggressive playfield with shallow ball control windows and high tilt sensitivity, requiring precise flipper work and avoiding excessive nudging (confidence: medium) — Nancy: 'When it's good, it's good. This one definitely plays fast.' Multiple players tilting on nudges; commentators noting difficulty of left ramp and flipper placement challenges
- **[personnel_signal]** Mark Pollock (B Division second place) retained ownership of Demolition Man for 2.5 years and serves as subject matter expert on ruleset and tournament setup optimization (confidence: high) — Mark Pollock owns game 2.5 years, played at Texas Pinball Festival, provides granular code/rule explanations to commentators and Brian K
- **[product_concern]** Demolition Man left ramp shot presents extreme difficulty and high drain risk if ball doesn't complete the ramp fully, described as 'death' if it comes back down (confidence: medium) — Mark Pollock: 'That left ramp. If it will not go all the way up, you most likely will lose it. That is death. It's the scariest thing in the world.'
- **[technology_signal]** Demolition Man code update enabling claw ball pickup mechanics, distinct from prior code versions, impacting strategy significantly (confidence: high) — Mark Pollock explicit statement: 'The code update is the claw that you can actually pick now. So that was not the way it was set up at our place.'

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## Transcript

 Shoutouts to Project Pinball, a charity helping donate pinball machines to hospitals. Yeah, to children's hospitals. They're doing a raffle for a brand new Jurassic Park Pro and a Jurassic Park Premium. So check them out here. A $75 donation gets you a chance to win the Premium and there's only 200 entries. That's a good chance. Chances are pretty good. Yeah, I think it's worth it. For sure. I know I'll be doing it. I mean, you never know. What if he wins? And thank you to Daniel from Project Pindle. He also joined us at our tournament this weekend, too. So he's playing. I'm Mike Welsh, and joining me is Nancy. Hello. We'll be getting started with the A Division Finals shortly. I wonder what games will be picked. So let's see who our finalists are. David Oliver, Jay Collins, Ryan Krivenak, and Carl D'Python Anghelo for your final four for Pinball at the Lake 2019. So we're going to be picking games here shortly. So who's driving the bus? Is it going to be Carl? Let's see. Let me check that. Let me check my phone. Top seed, yes? I believe so. Uh-oh, we're moving. David Oliver, top seed. So, we're going to F14. Oh! How did you feel about F-14, Nancy? When it's good, it's good. This one definitely plays fast. Oh, yeah. That's what I learned. Carl did roll this game earlier in the tournament. Yeah, I just see that. He had over 10 million points. I saw it was like 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9. Player one will be David Oliver. So F14 Tomcat, you wouldn't spell Tomcat ideally by flailing around up here. Oh, and here we go. As we just saw David try to do. Tries to send it back up top, hits the flipper. Oh, stay in. No. The ball bounces into the drain, sort of off of the crook of the flipper. Player two will be Carl. So joining me now is going to be Raymond Ashby, our winner for B Division. Hey, thank you, guys. Welcome, Raymond. Thank you for joining me on commentary. No problem. And nice play earlier. Just ordered some food. Sweet. So what do you think about Tomcat? Oh, I did okay on this. It's a fun game. Faster. Very fast. Steve Ritchie. I love Steve Ritchie. Is it Steve Ritchie? I can't even think. It is. Yep. So you want to keep sending the ball up top, flail up those Tomcat letters. Oh, stay in. Just give me one second. Carl tried to keep that in, ends up tilting out. I wanted to donate this. I wanted to donate this. I was going to play some, but I'm going to commentate instead. No problem. No problem. Just had to make a donation to Project Pinball. How nice of you, Raymond. Got to enjoy dinner with, I can't even think of his name right now, I'm sorry. I'm still coming down from the finals. So now player three is Brian K. He's been playing awesome. He has been. He had a GC on Rescue 911 earlier. Good progress on those Tomcat letters there. That's already, no, it's not a lock yet, but I suppose. And he's got one lock ready. Nice dead pass there. Now you want to hit that right orbit. Ooh, flipper guy on the way. To lock the ball. Some people like to hold up that upper flipper to get it out of the way. Yeah. Are you a fan of that? This one, I think, leaned a little more than normal, so I do like doing it on this specific one. Get a launch bonus there if he can get it up, but he missed. Still a little early, but he does spell Tomcat a second time, so two locks already. Yeah, beautiful drop catch there, too, to keep the ball under control. Nice cradle. Still can't find that lock shot. That's the lock right there, so he's got all his locks lit, actually. He needs to get it up there now. With the launch bonus, oh, the flipper got in the way. That might have actually... Like I said, usually I don't put the flipper up. It actually doesn't get in the way, but this one seemed to be a little more, so. There it is. That's the shot he needed. Now he'll just plunge away into these other locks for free. And now has to hit that same right orbit shot one more time for multiball. Ball one, he's in great position This is game one of the finals, right? That is correct These guys have played really well all week What a dead bounce there I would have flipped Yeah, he's been doing that You know what, he's one shot away That's not a bad ball one That's a good ball one on this one Yeah Player four will be Jay Collins It's kind of tricky when there are locks there You might not be ready for the kick out so fast It's definitely a fast game You have to be on your toes to flip with the upper flippers correctly Yep He's just going up top Getting that hot streak value that's good points you know a couple bad balls and uh david and carl could still not make that many points so it's just get that value while you can just need the seat left for cat there it is so i personally like trying to get multiple locks before shooting it up the orbit but unfortunately drain So one ball down, two to go Now it's time for David's ball two Nice control there Going back up top This has the T, C, and A Done with Cat Wow, big moves here Oh, that's way too big of a move. He got a little too randy with the machine. Yeah. Several of those moves back to back. Yeah. I learned my ball one on this game that you couldn't really move it all that much. Straight to tilt, basically. Just some rough feeds that kept coming back towards the middle of the flippers. Now Carl's up. Yeah. And it is finals, you know. Nerves get there. Nice in lane there Oh boy Very bad Missed the launch shot there And pays for it Did see Carl holding up the flipper. Now Ryan has his multiple already. See if you could get that going. Get a good multiball and will make him feel really good. I shot alright. Now during this multiball, just keep hitting the same shot. Yep, over and over and over to cradle some balls and then just keep hitting the right shot. I already lost one. All the balls collide. He's down to two. This is where you want to trap up. He gets a nice shot up. He needs to get the second one. Then it's the third one, right? Or is it just two? I believe it was the third one. Did I launch bonus there? Nope, doesn't quite get there. I always forget, Brian's not as much of a control player, is he? It depends on his mood But he did get the safe landing for $250,000 That's going to get his score up to $1.4 million Back to single ball play Yep, just back to getting those locks Yeah, go pinball Take back was not lit, and he paid for it. Mark wants to commentate if they play Demoman. Ooh. It was at his place for like three years. Oh, wow. So he'll be a good commentator for that game. Yep. All right, so Jay has one lock. How's the one lock going? It's close to two. Oh, boy. Tough to eat him. Hate to see that. Couldn't get a handle on it. Unfortunately, it's what it is, Lassie. There's that Lays. Oh, no. That is a terrible three balls for David. Just didn't want to stay out of the out lane on that one. Everyone's guaranteed a point. This is four games though, so plenty of time to come around. Scoring's 3-2-1-0. Trying to get that tee for the first lock. I've seen Carl do really well on this machine. Don't count anyone out yet. Thank you for the follow of the UK Pinball Club. Carl working on his third lock Now if you go up that right You do spot one letter for your Tomcat So it's not a bad shot to go Shoots it straight back up to those that pop area, top area. He's got Tomcat lit again for his last lock. Post pass here. There it is. Get that control. Nice shot. So he's going to need to make that shot one more time. We'll be in multiball and see if he can cause any damage and give Brian some competition. Ooh, and that right out lane is going to stop it. He tilts it. He's not happy. Brian's guaranteed two points here. He just wants to try to stack up some points. And then the question is, when Jay comes up, you know, how do you get that $150,000 to catch up to Carl? I mean, even just some hot streak points can help you get there. So it's a different beast at that point because every point counts. Brown goes up top. Gets a little bit of a hot streak. 40,000. He's trying to keep the ball alive here. Comes around. Lights it a lot. Second lock slit, but he's out. Nice game from Brian. Very nice game by Brian. Now Jay needs about 100,000 to claw out an extra point. This game is brutal, though. We'll see what happens. He tries to get it up there. He gets his block lit. Ooh, that move. That was too dangerous. He's gonna let that set a second and then go up the right doesn't let it sit that many seconds That is probably gonna get him Second here Close with bonus he has it. Hopefully he knows that He's got his third off lit now you start thinking about trying to catch Brian Oh, yeah, well, that's all multiball and he has it ready. So here it comes Ooh, one ball already gone, second ball's gone, but you only need the two. You can rack up all the points with two balls here. So again, not much control here. You've got the control now. see if he could cradle separate and start making those jackpot shots nice note to their very nice move keep in mind he has like probably no danger left separate their nice shot up top so he's got one here's number two or is he gonna to wait. He's going to wait. Smart move. Patience is key here. Nice little flip there. Ooh, a little too late. It's the cat target instead. Got a little impatient there and just decided to go for it. That's looked like a nice operation, but kind of got hung up there. Where's the Jay Collins fans, guys? Saw some earlier in the chat. They want this jackpot. If he gets to the jackpot, I think he wins the match. Two more shots. That's going to be trouble. Nice nudge there. And a bad out lane He's gonna have to start from scratch Hmm and that right out lane kills him good effort. Okay, it'll give him second It's good start guys What game do you want to see next Who's driving the bus? It's a good question. It gets David. I think it is third seed So he probably hasn't gotten to pick that many games. So he probably gets to pick what he wants So I expect we will see Demoman because I know David likes that game. Nice. Maybe more the moderns too, so Jurassic Park and Black Knight. He's made his pick. They're moving the rig somewhere. Is it going to Demoman? Let's see. There's Binkley. It is indeed Demoman. And I promised Mark he could commentate. Second place winner on B Division. He's probably smoking a cigarette, though. Oh, there he is. He's right there. All right. I got to eat anyways. Thank you guys so much again. Thank you, Raymond. Here comes Mark Pollock, your second place winner of B Division. So joining me now is Mark Polak. This is Mike Welsh. Congrats, Mark, on your second place. Thank you. Appreciate it. In P Division. So I hear this game was in your house for quite some time. For about two and a half years. Wow. So you're a Demolition Man fan? Yes. I did not... The code update is the claw that you can actually pick now. So that was not the way it was set up at our place. Jim, when he got it back, did that. But it's one of my favorite games. It's just, it's a lot, I actually kind of, I know Jim loves the claw, but I actually prefer it to be set up tournament-wise where the claw doesn't work out. Because mainly on your first multiball, what it will do is it feeds the upper flipper first, and you have to hit that center shot. So it's, the other way is it would feed the flipper first so you had a chance. So I normally use the secret jackpot when you first start your multiball, as long as you do the claw activation. Unfortunately, David had a rough first ball there. So Carl will be your player two. What's your usual strategy on this game? So the first thing you want to do is light your quick freeze. And then once you do the quick freeze, then the claw, once you access claw, that will, as long as you do the light lock, I think it's called freeze lock up here. Lock freeze, yeah. Yeah, lock freeze, yeah. And then that will start your multiball. If you don't do it with the quick freeze activated, then it will give you just a lock, and you have to shoot that really hard orbit from the left flipper. And then it's also only a two-ball multiball at that point. So I suggest that in this particular game, if you don't get your lock freeze but you end up hitting your claw, I would suggest picking a different mode instead of freeze lock. Makes sense. And then I personally think the next best mode to do is Simon. It's worth about 70. A lot of people will say Super Pops. You want to try to do your Super Pops in multiball. I'm not 100% sure if in multiball Super Pops are active. I believe they are, though. I think so, too, because we saw that earlier from Ryan. Now Carl's into his first multiball. Carl does not want to play this game. I talked to him a lot about it this weekend, and I jokingly was like, Hey, I'm on King's Steel. You're a demo man. Want to switch? He's like, Absolutely. Oh boy, double Drano there. That's brutal. The ball save is really short on this, it's about three seconds. So, even a multiball. So basically the only way you ever get it back is if it instantly drains. Brian K., he's on a tear right now. It was funny, I was talking to some other people and they were like, well I hit the flashing shots. This is not a game that you always hit the flashing shots. It is also important for people to look at what the other players are doing for specifically the computer mode, because it will always be the same for each player. Wow, just like the camera in Twilight Zone. Yes. The other important thing on this is when you do the MLG at the top, the top lanes, it will give you bonus X. And as long as you're not in a mode or in multiball, if you actually hit that start multiball left orbit, and if it goes in the hole, it will 90% of the time give you the bonus hole. So he's at 4X right now, so that would be something I'm thinking about. Because if you can get it locked in at 5X... He actually already got it. That was the first award he got. Oh, he did? Okay, I had missed that. And actually, I think in tournament mode, It goes in a set order, those awards up there. Yes, I believe so. The first one is always bonus hold. When we borrowed this machine from Jim, we had it, it was at InDisc, and so it was set up exactly the same way as InDisc was. I actually think it played harder there than it does right now. So Brian uses his lock freeze to start his multiball. He takes his secret jackpot right away. Yeah. One thing that a lot of people don't know is you cannot use your secret jackpot on the first super. So if that right ramp is lit, your secret jackpot will not count for it. I did not know that. It will count for the second one, but not the first one. Interesting. And there's a super for Brian. The other thing you can do is instead of using it right away, you can actually hit it in that scoop, and it doesn't register the hit until it leaves the scoop. So if you hit it in the scoop, then you can use your secret, and it will still count. So you'll get both. So you'll get the middle target and then the center. So you can wait until you hit the computer. Yeah, because sometimes what ends up happening is you brick the scoop, and it will actually fall up the center. You're like, oh, man, I just wasted my secret because of that. So it's better to wait. Makes sense. Doing some good work on ball one. Yeah, most certainly. A lot of people were finding this game very hard. I thought it played pretty well. All right. So, like I said, maximize freezes. That's good info for all the other players. Yep. A lot of times, I want to save that for multiball 3, because it's not too difficult to get multiball 2. I believe Jim has it set up easy, so it's just a couple of hits to the slings. But, I mean, at that point, though, a lot of times you're just like, well, you know. So he gets it. That's a hard shot to do. And when we had it a lot of times it would actually go through the it would miss the scoop We saw that earlier Yeah I think that happened to Carl Now I did not see it today but a lot of times you can actually hit it up the center and it will accidentally fall in the scoop anyhow So do you know if on the new code, I know you can't pick the freeze lock again, but can you pick like super jets over and over again yeah you can basically if you pick the same award twice it turns into super jets so if i picked lock freeze a second time it would just be super well but yeah i mean that was my question about the code is like can you actually pick super jets over and over and over again is it just the lock freeze that it won't let you pick no it's all of them okay i mean i would i would go for that strategy anyhow because demo time is very valuable and it's very easy to uh get the ball saves or i'm sorry add balls to it brian's into acmag I don't personally like this mode that much. The one advantage to picking it is that you want to hit it up the center anyhow, so you can do the MLG, or I think it's MTL. The MTL will relight your claw. So he should have switched. Yeah, he missed an opportunity there. Yep. I'm shot there. So like I said, I would pick Simon. Let's see what he picks. I think it's stuck up there. He should give it a... Okay. I believe that's Prison Bur... Oh, no, Super Jets, I guess. Oh, something I didn't think about is the way it feeds out of there. Maybe sometimes it's more advantage to do the lock. Wow, that's a nice mystery award. access claw enabled. So if he rolls over that right in lane, he'll relight the claw. I'm sorry, the left in lane, he'll relight the claw. So also with that, you get every ball will light the claw. So he missed an opportunity there. When I had it, when I played it, every time that the in lane was lit for light claw, I always was disappointed because I'm like, it's already relit next ball. Yeah, you kind of wasted it almost. But what a first ball, a billion first ball from Brian. It's definitely a solid score. If I get 2 billion in this game, I would feel pretty safe. And I think he had his bonus held, too, right? Oh, yeah. It's going to be huge. And he was at 5x. So, yeah, that would be very valuable. The one thing we can't see is if players are playing with the triggers or not. So, Jay is playing with the triggers. I believe that the triggers, every combo is worth 2 million instead of 1 million. That's the only difference. For me, I feel like there's a little bit of lag when you play with the triggers. Just a tiny little bit, and it just bothers me, so I won't play with it very often. Rough bounce for Jay. So on ball one, obviously bonus isn't very important, but like Brian, for example, definitely never wants to tilt. Now David's going to let that top off settle. This game was his pick. He is a big fan of this game, so we'll see what he can do on ball two. This game is just so much fun. There's not very much holding. Even in multiball, you don't normally cradle. It's always on the fly. Combos are valuable in this game, too. Yes. Good points. Well, and that's also what gives you the computer award. So there's two skill shots. There's the scoop, which feeds the right in lane, so you can get your quick freeze if that's active. But then there's the ramp, and the ramp I think is worth 10 million, I want to say. And 10 million's not that much, so most people go for the scoop instead. Yeah, that left ramp If it will not go all the way up You most likely will lose it That is death It's the scariest thing in the world You see it coming back down that ramp Yeah, the right ramp's not that bad If it doesn't make it up But yeah, the left one has been killing it all day Carl's into the claw Expect him to take lock freeze here since he's on the second multiball? No, so he made the mistake. He didn't do the quick freeze. So the problem with this, I mean, he can get more balls, but if he instantly starts that multiball, it's only a two-ball multiball instead of a three. So he should have, in my opinion, picked a different mode. He should have done Simon or something. Oh, actually, shoot, he's on multiball two. Yep. Yeah, he didn't have a very good first multiball, but he's in the multiple too here. This one's a nice one because you can just flail away, get some quick points. Yes. In order for the super to light, you actually have to hit all the shots. But one of the nice things about this one is you can save your secret until later. There is a small delay on the super jackpot. It's about three seconds. So after you drain your second ball, you can still get it. Alright, one quick freeze. So there's also two different strategies here. some people go for combos so they get their maximized freezes and computer awards and things of that nature I personally like to try to shoot the center and it's like, it's close to a 50-50 I feel from the right flipper it's more often to fall to the inlanes up there, from the left flipper it's more often to feed the left flipper Brian still has a pretty commanding lead And this will be his fourth award He's going to start thinking about demolition time So this is Simon So it's just three shots anywhere basically So I would go center here He chooses ramp It's totally fine Now the weird thing is sometimes the center shot Will not register Hmm Ooh Tough one there Player four will be Jay Collins third place right now. His first multiple is ready. Like I said, that would still be disappointing because it would only be a two unless he gets another quick freeze. Which actually, I mean, he hasn't lit, so. I'd actually try to do the quick freeze first, get a three ball multiple. That shot is so hard to hit. Have you played this one today? Not today, I played it yesterday. Okay. You mean the ramp shot? No, that left orbit shot that he needs to start with. Oh, yeah. I don't think I hit it once. I think it's one of the tightest shots. It doesn't look that bad. It's pretty rough. Yeah. So is this three balls or is it two? It is three balls right now. Oh, it's actually four. He did the lock freeze. And he got the quick, yeah. Yeah, so he got one extra and then one extra from the lock trees. This is his first multiple, right? It is. Yeah. So what I would do would just be a little juggle And then just hit that right ramp And then feed the flipper Jay tried to do cradle separation He pulled it off Nice shot, beautiful Nice, got the super, beautiful And so this time The first time you hit the super It's the same shots over again It changes if you get the second super It'll actually be the orbits that I believe you have to hit first Oh. There is... He should use his secret right now if he didn't use it. I wasn't paying attention. I think he already used it. Okay. That's a nice multiple from Jay. Yeah. Up to 570 million. Big super jets. So the other thing with this game is that you can't relight quick freeze. I believe, I might be wrong, but I believe you can't relight quick freeze while quick freeze is lit. So you do kind of want to get that out of the way so you can start building up to your other quick freezes for your next multiball. So he's got multiplayer held. He should at least be, I think, 3x? Maybe 2x. Ooh, nice, nice. If he hits this... He could light his computer. And we saw that first computer award was Max My Streets. That would be very, very good. Nice. He's getting the super jets. Oh, he completed it. Beautiful. We got a game on our hands. Oh, in and out. Nice ball from Jay. Puts him well into second place, going into ball three. Yeah, look at that bonus. So he's got 3X held. Huge. So do we know if this is David's first multiball or second? I assume with his score it's his first. Yeah, it's his first. So he's got some work to do. multiball's ready. And he has no claws lit, so he can do the access claw and start multiball. He does it the honest way. Nice shot. Which is still fair because it makes your second multiball easier. So this is one of the issues about not waiting. Is that he used his secret already and he had it hidden up the center anyhow. We got some football going on right now. So I don't think this starts it. We'll just get the lock, yeah. So now it's ready. You can actually have it started if you have the other one. Yeah, if you have all the locks already. Yeah. Uh-oh. This computer was lit. So, yeah, he just did maximize freezes. So it's more... And actually, this particular one, you want more balls. That's right. So you will have all four balls once he starts his multiball? The first multiball, if you get maximized freezes, is kind of annoying. And I think the third one is the same, where you actually have to skillfully shoot in order. But this one, where it's all different ones, is still decent. So let's see if he can actually start the multiball. Pulling off some good combos. Is he playing with the... He is. He's playing with the triggers. Nice nudge there. Yep. Yep. It's one of the most frustrating things is having that and just bricking it and bricking it. So he should be able to post pass here. I know we saw it, but I wasn't paying attention. Do we know what the next computer award is? It was award stand-up value. Okay. Nice. Just can't find that shot. So, I haven't seen it too often here. But like I had mentioned earlier, I stopped going for it, and I would just shoot the center, praying that it would bounce into the scoop instead. Chet says the next computer works. He got it. Light explode. Nice shot from David. He's doing a little bit of catch-up here. This will be a four-ball multiball. This is one of my favorite multi-balls in pinball. Just, like, having to have that super and... Oh, it's just so much fun. And the screaming. Yeah. I love demo time, actually. I think it's even more fun. Because you can always add the balls. All right. Is he... Okay. I was wondering if he was going to try to stage flip. Actually, I don't think you can stage flip on this game. I actually forget. I believe you can. It's something with the way the trigger handles. The mechanism doesn't work. Well, on the triggers you can't. Well, even on the flippers. Okay. Okay. Oh, man. Oh, man. Good attempt. Good attempt. That might put him into third. Points matter. This is only game two, right? It is only game two. unfortunately David got a zero in the first game so he'll have some work to do in the last two one of the great things is everyone's taking home a plaque yeah you're in the money at this point yeah really curious what Carl's going to pick here Alright, so he just relit his claw. Or activate claw. He pulls it off. Alright, so he's actually going for setter instead of claw. I don't think Akhmed's that valuable, so I would have gone for the claw instead. Maximus freezes. Let's see if he can find the shot. Nails it. Oh, this is multiple three. That's right. He did not perform very well on his multiples, though. Nice. Nice. His little tip passes back to the flipper. Gets the super. Yeah. Okay. Did you see if he used his super yet? Yeah, he did already. Okay. Because this particular shot is where I use it a lot of times, or I'll save it for one of the orbit shots, particularly the left orbit shot. The right orbit shot's not that bad. Nice. Uh-oh. All right, he finds it. So I think it's the Orbit Snow? Yeah. So this is... Wow. Nice, nice, nice. Carl's dialed in. Oh, boy. But what an effort from Carl. Yeah. He's going to put some pressure on Jay. Although remember Jay had that whole bonus I believe He's got the 3x Which I believe was 66 If I remember correctly Can't quite remember So he should have about 900,000 Even if he gets a house ball Or 900 million Ryan with this excellent game Walking in the ball 3 with 1.5 million Just wants to extend his lead In front of Jay And finishing first place last game What was the game they played? Tomcat, right? He's getting the last... Oh, so it's lit now. It's ready. Demo time is ready. Hit it up the center. Oh, no. I think that was a mistake. I would have just gone for up the center and then hope it falls to the upper left flicker. I mean he's got a safe enough lead right now but still I think that was a missed opportunity the thing about this game is it moves so fast that you don't have a lot of time to think about stuff that's a nice one for Jay yeah and it's multiple too which is perfect just the finding it we have an up don't tilt well good game for Spedlin Brian definitely did very well excellent 150 he's close wow Carl gets second place great game of Demoman there Ryan K gonna jump up to six points Carl getting second with three points Jay will get a single point be it three points and David will stay at zero points and we're going to go into game three cool I'm going to hand you back to Raymond pleasure commentating with you thank you Mark thank you for your insight on Demoman it was a lot of fun there are certainly a lot of things I don't know about the game and joining me again is going to be Raymond Ashby Yeah, what a game of demolition, man. Raymond, how about that game from Ryan? That was awesome ball one. Yeah, a billion ball one. I'll take that. Yep. I give him a lot of anguish whenever we talk about Demoman. Yeah, he does not like that game. I crushed him at a finals event. I think it was like literally like 3 billion to nothing. So, yeah, it's nice to see that he gets a win on it. We're going to Stargazer. That's a pick. It's something. I was enjoying playing this one-handed last night as fun with Mark's brother, Matt. So Stargazer is a rip the spinner game. And that spinner spins. It is juiced. Oh, man. It's nice to play one which is juiced. I'm so used to just going bonus. So, yeah. So by knocking down one of these drop targets, you will lock in the value for the spinner, and ideally you want it to be at the very top. It will lock in this spinner value and then melt that spinner. One thing people forget, though, the number on the right is to clear those drops. So if you accidentally get the bottom one, if you clear the drops, 200,000 points. Hey. Ooh, that is a tough ball one. Apparently, Jay picked the game. Maybe David deferred? Yeah. This would definitely be a game Jay would pick. I would put that at top three on here. Carl will be your player two. The other thing about Stargazer is you can also light these spinners by rolling over these star rollovers when they're lit for the light spinner award. And they only light for a single rip, but, you know, points. You have them lit. 2,000 to spin could add up really quick. Definitely when player one got 12,000. You also want to try to get those stand-ups, although you can't really control that. Just hope you get them. It's a good bonus. Oh, no. Another just quick drain. The multiplier for bonus also carries over as well, but the value of that spinner is pretty high, so we'll see what players three and four decide to do after seeing player one and two just drain with no progression, really. Ryan K. stepping up. Also coming from a more modern game, It's really tough to play something like this. Yeah, especially with this odd flipper configuration. Thank you, Double Flip. Ryan, greatly appreciate it, man. I was just fortunate to even be qualified yesterday. Some good nudges from Brian. Very nice nudge there. Locks in that spinner value of max. That is a juicy spinner right now. He's already in the lead, but... All right. One spin could be like 500,000. Aw. Not even a kiss there. Oh boy. Oh no. Yeah, that right sling went out. That's gonna hurt, but you know. Now if you have a ball on the left Raymond do you do anything to try to transfer it to the right Do you tap There a lot of options These flippers were strong though Quite often the flippers are a little weaker These flippers are really strong And David gets an unfortunate bounce there, trying to control the ball. Straight down the middle. So yeah, I was trying to do a little flick to... quite often you could do a little flick in the cradle and you go up to the rollover and then like definitely if you're trying to get a thing you're trying to get a little roll to hit a spinner you're getting extra value there. That spinner is set to max. Jay on ball two and Jay knows how to play. Oh he does unfortunately not get the value and then the light goes faster. But he's ripped that far left spinner when it was lit. He did. Up to almost 200,000. That's the value of the spinners on this game. He stays out of the left out lane. That nudge saved his ball. So now he's going to try to relight that spinner. There it is. Close to max value. And there's that rip. Another 100,000 just from one spin. Huge. Collects the drops. and he's got it set on the third level which is still worth more than anyone's got in this game so far so let's see what jay does here he does a little post transfer that worked out well for him although i guess it's not really a post i guess it is and that is a huge rip right there guys great look at that score go up he's at half a million now that's dangerous but he gets a nice little tip of the flipper. Going to try to get some control here. That was going to roll off the flipper, so he made a wise decision to flip at it instead. And he's at a... Killing it. Yeah. He's going to let that spinner sit. Back up top. That pop actually helps him out, lets his ball spin even more. He has these shots dialed in. Yep. And he's close to maxing out his bonus for the first time. There it is. So once you hit it through the first time, that light should be lit, but it's not. But I believe that's like 12,000 plus you could collect the stand-ups again. Still doesn't have a multiplier. He has to hit either this set of drops or this set of drops in order to get the multiplier X, and that will stay from ball to ball. That's not that bad of value, but compared to a spinner rip, You're probably not going to go for it. Definitely on ball two. Maybe ball one. Another spinner rip. He's at almost a million, guys. There's the 2X. What ball from Jay? Captain Bly, thank you so much for your follow. Carl, who is stepping up to the game right now, is the owner of this stream. Thank you, Carl. He streams a lot of awesome pinball, and he's a great pinball player. nice flipper control there sets the ball down immediately now waiting for that light to crawl the way up to the max value max value it is little flick there but he's got control let's see if he can rip this spinner for a couple hundred thousand hits the drop instead gets it up there gets a few spins gets a save careful nice little flick there thankfully it didn't go out to the out lane Got another roll He's going to cradle up here He's going to take his time Definitely with the crowd cheering They know it's hot And it's going to unfortunately Have nowhere to go But down the middle So 70,000 ball two Facing a million Not where you want to be ball three Brian's going to try to at least after winning first game, you want to try to keep some points on it. Get a point. Love all these guys. I root for them all. When they're facing each other, I just say, hey, have at it. All right. He's close to maxing out his first set of horoscope targets. Nice shot to the elder spinner. Very nice. And he tries to redo it. Now, if you hit it near the end, you could actually keep that value going. So that was a good decision there. just missed it, unfortunately. Think about it. 2,000 a spin. Spin it 20-some times. That's 40,000 points. He unfortunately did not get. He gets one good spinner shot. And it's interesting because he got the extra ball? Or did it skip the trough? I think it skipped the trough. He didn't get his bonus countdown. Jim's going to open the machine up. Some of the older games they do do that. I know they were confused over at Skateball when I started playing again, and I'm like, look, it said play extra ball. I was actually shocked that extra balls were lit on that. Yeah, extra balls were on Skateball. I was surprised at that, too. Yeah, it wasn't during practice, which confused me. An extra ball is lit, but it's a special on this, and he didn't get that far, so it was a clear. I think you have to complete all the Zodiac symbols like four times or something. I think it's the second time around. First time's the extra ball. And then, like, I was actually confused, because usually it's, like, just drop the drops, but it actually rotates as well to the out lane, so... Not the easiest special to collect, or extra ball in this case. Ooh, nice. Good decision there. I don't think I would have done that, and I probably would have lost the ball. Nice drop catch there. Or live catch more. Keeping it alive. He's got a good spinner. There you go. I mean, it's a spinner. It's points. People aren't doing that good on here. So, you know. Yeah. If you keep the ball in play and you spin it at 200 a spin, you're going to get something. All right. 2,000 a spin there. That's a great spin. He does get his drops complete. But he'll settle it down. Try to get a max value here. Close enough. That's a nice nice control. And we're back out of control but we're getting there. Kenny gets some spins. There's some spins. We'll take some fortunate reaction flip spins. So yeah, like I said, these flippers are really strong, so unlike most of these games where you could just like little tap it and it will set it back in place, you're going to launch the ball. Nice spinner rip by David. That's putting him up over 500,000 points. He's completed the Zodiac targets, and he's up to 5X? Yeah, he's at 5x multiplier, so we're going to get a nice little bonus count up here. About 60,000, 70,000 extra points. Saying that that's players to score, you'll take those extra points definitely when that is Carl D'Python Anghelo. Going into ball three, Jay in the lead with over a million. Jay's got a smile on his face as he should. He's definitely in a good spot in this game. Anyone's game, unfortunately, that smile went away very quickly. Gets a little bonus there. Carl gets some drops. That's actually going to launch. Is it going to launch his score? Oh, he didn't complete him. That comes down dirty, but Carl's got some control. Carl's going for that 2,000 spinner rip and here it goes. And also completes the drops. Yep. That's a nice decision there, trying to pour that 2,000 a spin. Now you should probably go for the max spinner, but he said he hits the post. There is a nice spin and he gets the drops. Good value there. He's almost up to 500,000. He wants to make player two, three, and four think about it. Make them play. He's keeping that spinner spinning. Keep it spinning. Can he get another one? Oh, too late. Hits the post instead. He's going to cradle up here and then consider his options. He knows that with bonus, he's definitely over player three. He's creeping on player four. unfortunately just gets a spinner rip but might have been the best choice low value of the spinner there but he's got some control don't think he intended to go for the pop there he's trying to go for that drop to reset it I think almost gets control of that flicks it at the last second uh oh Uh-oh. Almost was able to reach that flipper, but he is not going to reach player three. He is not guaranteed any points unless Brian has a very short ball. Now Brian wants to try to claw a point out of here. He's got some work to do. If he claws out one, he's probably going to claw out just one probably. We'll see. We'll see. Let's see him catch up everyone. Eh. I don't like seeing landslides. I'd rather see a tight match going in a match three. We want everyone to do well. We want to see some good pinball. I just want to see good pinball. I love seeing multiple million games on things. Stay in. All right, Zodiacs are complete for the first time. He's got the spinner going. There you go. Getting some spins. Oh, no. Oh, he takes it out. What a dig. Everyone's cheering All the cheering All for the pinball guys That was too early of a drop catch And that's what you see He reacted fast enough Oh no Not quite enough Good effort Don't think it's quite enough He didn't have enough multipliers And he was only at like 12-14,000 per X It was at 24-48 I think it's 24-48 David's waste no time he wanted to play pinball it was funny we were talking to one of the players earlier and he's like I'm gonna even though I could pick fourth I'm gonna pick third next time because I don't want to play behind Carl because you have to wait when you play against some really good players unfortunately David drains out early but will get two points yeah And Jay shows us why he loves this era of game. Yeah. A million points on Stargazer. And we'll see what the next game is. So after that game, Jay will be tied with Brian at six. Oh, I didn't realize this is game three. Yeah. You're going into the final game here. That's right. I was gone for demolition, man. So it's not in the bank by any means. No, this is almost anyone's game. David, unfortunately, only having two points. He is, unfortunately, not able to get first. Nope. He gets over Carl and wins. He has a chance to take third or a tiebreaker for third. So that's what you're aiming for. just play your best pinball. All right, where are we headed? We're moving. Congo? Skateball? Skateball. Rescue 911? We're going to skateball, guys. Jay must have picked again. That's my best guess. I don't think David wanted to pick this one. So I thought the skateball played pretty easy. Yeah, everyone. Skateball. Guys, support local pinball. Cheer like this. It's amazing. We've got people on the rafters. They're throwing towels around. They're having a great time. Skateball. Let's hear it. Yep. So one thing to keep in mind, you do get a super bonus in this game. That carries on through the games. Could be good value. Definitely when you could get bonus collect. The main strategy is hitting the saucer over and over. Yep. If you can complete skate, you can increase the value of that saucer. On these settings, you only want to complete skate one. Well, actually, the extra balls are on. So if you can complete skate twice, get to an extra ball. That's correct. so Jay's stepping up like I said I was pretty sure he picked the game all right okay Jay's trying to get a win here he could lights the left pop I believe those are worth a thousand a pop so they're not chubby ooh nice save they're very good reaction and there's some control. Gets two of the skate drops down on the left side. Cradles out the ball, hits two more. He's got one more to light skate. Ooh, that is... Oh, no. No work there. Going down this out lane, in lane, I call it. There is a post there, and you could move it over, but it's very tough to. EB is skate plus the NB. That is correct. all right nice in lane there Carl's got some work to do Carl's only hope is David ends up trying to beat him and can't succeed and surpasses players one and three nice control there going up to the spinner Nice pop action there That's going to give him some points He has already passed Jay Collins Missed the saucer That was a fortunate come out of the outlanes Back into the play field Alright he's lit the collect bonus Collect bonus light doesn't light up But once you've hit those three arrows You hit here and collect bonus He wants to try to get it up more though Before he does that He's only at 6,000 with the 10 lights out, which is possible. Nope, 10 light is on, so he's up to 11. Give him 11,000 here if he collects it. Actually, is that what, 4X? Yep. He's at 4X. That's 44,000. But he's trying to, he's probably more interested trying to get to his super bonus, I guess. Nice cradle on the right side. Get that last skate letter. There it is. Can he survive the rebound? And he does. So now his scoop's worth $50,000 plus that collect bonus, but he gets an unfortunate drain. Still, $318,000. Ball one. Brian K coming up. So one trick I learned is if you roll over the lit in lane instead of an unlit one, it's worth two bonus advances instead of one. So maybe if you're just close to the super bonus, that's something to keep in mind. That is definitely something to keep in mind. So at some point you're like, do I want bonus X or do I want to advance bonus? Nice nudge there. That scared me. that dead pass i'm like wait did he tilt all right trying for those drops up tops for the collect bonus they do rotate but unfortunately doesn't hit him it's kind of dead man's land up here because once it comes down it could come down there it could go there it could go anywhere that outs oh poor david that is not a fortunate outlane and that will happen from time to time i think it's important to read how it comes out of there because you might need to make a nudge to make it go further to like the left flipper a lot of collect bonus there because he didn't complete them it's probably the way to go i wish i knew that earlier two more drops there he's down to the a and the t and skate to improve his saucer value just goes for the saucer unfortunately he misses and he gets the outline two quick balls unfortunately for jay he's going to need to come back from behind to end up getting the victory here. This is the final game, guys. Carl's up. Carl really hoping David would have had a good game there because he needs it if he wants to win this. Oh, he saves it. Very nice save. That scoop there does a lot of different things. I was, Mark asked me earlier how I dealt with that scoop. And sometimes you hold the flipper up and it's fine. And other times it's not. Sometimes you like flip at it like he did. And sometimes it's fine. Sometimes it's not. You let it come down. I like had two perfect ones where it just came here. But then it just started going wherever it wanted. It's terrible. It was a great save. Unfortunately, still drained. But he's in the lead. Yeah, he got two saucer shots there. I believe that's 60,000 because his saucer was leveled up. Yep. So good points. Now Brian K. Oh, a little too much. Oh, that's a tilt. That hurts. David will probably let that set. David's pretty heavy-handed on these machines, so... Yeah, he's even setting a timer. So some other things on this game Don't worry about that much But A and B will like the spinner up here Not really a spinner game Saying that you have to get A and B And skate to get an extra ball It's actually worthwhile in this one You're not trying for them But if they end up getting there And you're one letter from skate It's not bad in this situation Yeah if David crushes it Carl's got a shot Let's see if David has a better ball too Keep in mind extra balls are in play So That could make a huge difference Oh it looked like it was going to be safe But just not quite Enough to get over that little hump down a blast ball of the finals for each of these players it's been a great event guys hopefully you found some pinball wherever you're at Jay's going to try to climb back he really just wants to be ahead of Brian although if Carl gets three and Jay only gets one it's going to be a tiebreaker Brian gets last. Oh, that's a dangerous decision, but he's got it back under control. Do you just start collecting 20,000 over and over? Even if it's just the 20,000, that's good points. And if it's fairly you can control the feed, that's the hard part. Yep. If anyone can do it, I think it's Jay. Jay picks up his 2X bonus, gets it back up to the top. He's going to collect some more bonus there. That feed is dangerous. Gets on the tip of the flipper. Back under control. Jay trying for that scoop again. I had some bad luck trying to hit that scoop myself. So Jay doing the little drop out of the, oh, nice nudge there. Nice nudge there. Now you're thinking about, hey, maybe that extra ball, that move did not tilt the machine. Ooh, but it gets down the right out lane. Hopefully that's enough for him to seal a victory. If he gets second place here, he will take it. Carl's going to come up to the machine and just try to improve his lead. It's that left poplet. Ooh, skim that targets up there. Another thing you don't talk about is that target bank. Nice 50,000th scoop. We're going to see how many times Carl could hit that scoop. Nice little nudge there. Carl also trying to figure out how to control that scoop. He's going to fling it back up. Take his chances. Here's another 50,000 scoop. It's for pinball pin rules. Pins rule. Back to the cradle. Gets his A and B. His T is there. He's got extra ball left. Nice nudge to get it out to the left of that sling. He collects for 100,000 plus the extra ball. Securing that extra ball and that 100,000. Value is going to go back down to 20,000. But extra ball is well worth it. Gets four of the drops already. He just needs one more to increase that value to 50,000. Hear them cheer for Carl, guys. Oh, a little bit of a bumble there. He did get a scoop for 50,000 there. He's got the EV, so. Just keep cashing in. Oh, we had 53 competitors over this weekend, pins rule. this is the final game the finals there might be some cheering for some football another 50 Thank you Another 50 But we've got a crowd around this machine watching this final game. They're enjoying it. Carl relighting that 100,000 and the extra ball again. So, yeah, I believe Extra Ball is just completing Skate twice, because he doesn't have the E.B. right now. You can complete Skate twice to get the E.B. as well, yes. But you're saying you can also get it if you do Skate and A.B.? Just one Skate and A.B., yep. That is good to know. It's on the rule card. Because Brian was confused by that, and I just pointed to the card because I was trying to keep concentrating. He's like, how on earth did you get that? You didn't complete the Skate twice. So he did read the card, thankfully, and found it. I just didn't want to lose my concentration on the game. Pearls almost to 1.3 million. Just going to keep it rolling. Spinner actually isn't lit, I don't think. He never got that B. He tried a little flick earlier to get that, but it didn't go up all the way. He'll get it there, though, so Spinner's going to be lit. His pops are just... Everything's blinking. He's at 40,000 bonus? Oh, no. I'm confused. He might be at 60,000 bonus. That light might just be out now. No, I think he just got the super bonus of 20,000. Okay. And we're going to go through another extra ball. Let's see if he can keep it rolling and do it again. He could be here all night. Oh. fact remains carl's destiny is actually in david's hands if carl is gonna win but he puts on a hell of a show for you guys give it up for carl yeah nice job what a game from carl on skateball there's some booze in the crowd too i'm sorry carl there are some san diego fans in here so it could be uh Could be a tiebreaker here. We'll see what happens. Nice in lane for Brian. So Brian. Complete skate once. Stay alive. Stay alive. Get some scoops. Come on, Brian. You can do it. All right. Settle down. He's got some cradle. Get that 50K. Gets the 50K. He needs to do that two more times in order to catch Jay Collins. whoo-hoo lots of craziness now not sure why he's going for those shots over there he gets a nice in lane there a little bit of the nerves there he's close he does have 30,000 in bonus right now too and there's a nice nudge oh is that gonna be enough there's so that's just ellipses now as we said there can be a tiebreaker for first and second if David Oliver it's all in David's hands catches Jay and Brian what an end so we've got more to look at if it gets a spinner rip get some pops lit and it's not that much to catch up to them they're only at 260,000 so David's gonna give it his all nice save there they've again some skate letters there's the skate letters he saves it do do you guys want to see more pinball I want to see it in the chat. Give me some emotes. Let's have David catch up. Bonus collect is going to be lit. Oh no. That out lane barely gets it. If he hit that scoop, we would have had another game, guys. What an ending for that. Congratulations, Brian K is going to be your winner. Now, is there a tiebreaker, however? Carl got three points there, so he's at seven. Brian's going to win with 8 Jay's going to be at 7 for being in 3rd place so we have one more game guys there's going to be a tiebreaker for 2nd and 3rd place between Jay Collins and Carl D'Python Anghelo and Jay's going to get to pick it I'm curious if we see some Argosy or something like that maybe Kings of Steel against Carl though I don't like picking against players that are really good at everything. Well played to everyone, guys. Jay's looking around the room. He's like, well, shoot, I don't know. We got Class of 1812. We got Baywatch. We got Jurassic Park. We can't play F-14. We already did that. We got Black Knight. We got Congo. Rescue 911. Where are we going? Is it going to be radical? It is going to be radical, guys, for the final tiebreaker of the night. Jay Collins versus Carl D'Python Anghelo for second and third place. Congrats, Brian K. of San Diego, for winning pinball at the Lake 2019. Guys, if you are even thinking about playing in one pinball tournament, you probably want to go to Pinburg. But if you're thinking about going to a second one, InDisc, Southern California, in January. Look it up. Come on out. We're going to have hundreds of players playing in an amazing location that has hundreds of pinball machines. We're off already. Jay's wasting no time. He's going to spell some radical letters. Let's get all the letters. I want to see my GC beat. Going to send it up top. There's that upper million that is at the start of each ball, in that upper loop. Pins rule. If you're looking to go to Banning, California, I suggest you stay somewhere in like Palm Springs area. Or Banning. A lot of B&Bs or Airbnbs. Good amount of hotels in the area around it. You want to gamble? There's Morongo there too. Pinball doesn't quite do it for you. We're down to one letter, guys. That A, which is a side ramp. Airbnb is a good option. There's a lot of options. Jay just needs that last egg. In the Palm Springs area. He was hoping for that ball to come to that right flipper. Upper right flipper. Nice control here. Oh, boy. He's trying to get the ball where he wants it, but he just can't get there. There it is. So he's going to try to stage, and he doesn't need to stage anything. He just wants to get up there, and hopefully the ball finds its way to that right flipper. You get to get the spot letter from that center stand-up. Yeah, do you want to risk it? He will with that backhand, and now he's got his lock lit. Nice in lane there, and he gets the first lock. So Mike, guess what we get to do again? Spell radical. There we go. The name of the game, literally. Yep. By the way, not only does Carl do a lot for pinball, This player right here, Jay Collins, is incredible for the pinball in the area. Jim Belsito also kept pinball alive here for years. So all three of those guys have done so much for pinball. And hopefully you could do your part as well. So we need an R. We need a D and we need a C. Now I was able to like little flick there and then backhand it. He's trying it. He gets the ramp instead. He's going to get some control on the right flipper, though, and try to forehand it. No, he goes for the D. Listen to this crowd, guys. This is what pinball should be about. Just needs the D through the bumpers. On ball one. This is a great ball. definitely with some unfortunate outlings that can be had this could very well be in his favor to secure his second place on this competition realm i think that's going to be a million for the first award yep he's gained some tail spins in the ball back over the left flipper Frankly there is no football Happening in the United States today That's just absurd Ooh That's about radical The multiball will be ready next ball And it will be He's already at almost 5 million Great ball one Very nice ball one So Carl's got a mountain decline Where's the Carl D'Python Anghelo fans? Let's hear ya Carl just not able to find shots It seems as finals But let's see if he can settle down And get there Way late on that shot He's trying to get that L spinner There it is Gets the ramp. Some good value there. And he's going to cradle up. So he's got the R, the A, the C, and the A to collect. Just shoots it up to those 1, 2, 3 drops. He's going to lose his kickback there. But at least it's used. We got the R. Going to get a snake run there for a mil. battling back and forth he's already at 2.6 million there's an a he's got radical spelled and he gets the lock but he's got no rest because the lock was already there i love this game it just keeps flowing thank you so much sd pinhead Everyone played so great This weekend Carl will not go quietly into the night He's trying to put up his own good ball one here You know he was really disappointed When David drained there He knew he was so close to actually having a chance at first But Second place is not chabby either So what's going on here? They're looking at something. It's possible he feels he made a shot and it didn't register. I know that has happened. By the way, he did spell radical as well, so his kickback's lit. I've hit the A a few times and it hasn't registered. Both A's, actually. The radical letters aren't lit right now. Yeah, that radical, the final A is not lit, which is weird. to collect. None of the letters are there right now. It's a snake run again. Cool. A million points. He's catching up to Jay. And okay. The letters are back on. Yeah. Okay. Play on. Trying for that side ramp. Fortunately, he doesn't get there, but he has pretty much caught up to Jay. now keep in mind jade does have the multiball ready on ball two carl's down to one letter as well if he drains here they would pretty much be even there we go you know what i want a nice close good game and it's literally deck and neck. They are literally ready to go into multiball ball too. So this is competition software so this is going to be a 4 million jackpot. There's going to be some control here hopefully. Nice save there. He's just trying to frantically get the ball Nice stage on the fly But he's out of multiball And We get to spell radical again We do We get to spell it twice That's unfortunate Definitely when you know your other player Is right there as well will that play a factor for J we'll see it's gonna cradle up and waste no time getting that D there is a link for the results do we have a standings or anything never jayde.drains.com slash PATL 2019. You can see all the standings there. Unfortunately, Jay did drain there. And Carl's ready to skate or die. And this is literally where it's at. Actually, not really. There's still ball three. But Carl could really seal the deal here. Get a cool four million. He gets that 4 million. There is the multiball. So the jackpot is the side ramp. This big one right up here. Yep. Upper flipper does block it, that upper left flipper. This is a four flipper game. Let's see how he cradle separates here. Nice little soft one and then kind of flicks the other ball around. That's a much better pass. He lets it drop down. He's got control. Stages left flipper. Oh, boy. Digs it out. Very nice dig. So he's going to try it again. You want to hit that D letter? Oh, it decided. No. No jackpot for you, Carl. Luca, I'm sure Brian will thank you in person. I appreciate it very much. so we wanted it to be close and neck to neck oh did that count? I think it did and apparently it's gonna it's the last possible moment during the grace period 4 million I spoke too soon guys I spoke too soon and that's just great knowledge of knowing the game there's a huge period where you could get that grace period lasts a long time on this game yep another million from the upper loop it's a nice thing about pinball you learn so much over any time you play who that a is being being right now there it is and it didn't count what a nose yep said I've had that issue before this a does not like counting sometimes there it is so Carl's gonna try to increase his lead and hope he doesn't have to play a ball three Now I have the DuckTales theme song in my head. Miss on that side ramp, unfortunately. Yeah! I'm going to say it's difficult. Can we get up there? Oh, so close. Carl's just got such patience this ball. It's another snake run Guess that's bought a letter for him Yep It actually is lit on the back last year What the next one will be In this wrong Oh it's wrong? Oh no I mean in this competition wrong Oh Gotcha He actually got a third one I believe right there too So he locks the ball He's at 11.4 million on ball two Nice side ramp there That's going to count for the A Going to get the D Right now you just want to get as much progress As you can for the next multiball In case Heck another jackpot or two Wouldn't be bad Excellent play There's the A He's down to two letters guys C and L Nice dig Still trying to get the ball under control And there it is So he gets the L He only has the C which is those drops up there That C is also Oh boy He gets the right out lane but he's at 13 million Before bonus 1.4 million with bonus That's actually the new GC, I'm pretty sure. Jay's got a mountain to climb. He has to spell radical, get his locks, and then spell radical again. Nice backhand there for the A. People want to come back, guys. There's the A. Nice job, Jay. Let's get the R. Nice shot. That's the R. Now you have to hit the shot to lock it. Nice post pass there. Gets an A ramp. Ooh, fortunate in lane there, and he does lock the ball. So now he's down to Spell and Radical one more time. See if he can catch up to Carl. Going up that spinner, going up the ramp. Gets the eye. Back hands to the first eight. Ooh, good save. Nice attempt for a backhand there. Nice nudge to get it off the wall, back onto the play field. Jay gets his D. Gets his R. Got two letters left. The drop there, the two drops, doesn't give it to him. Don't ask me why, I don't know. Jay's finding every single shot right now. Jay's played great this entire tournament. He qualified in fourth position. Best he could do is second, worst he could do is third, but he would like that second against Carl. This would be a sweet comeback victory. So he's got the drops down. He gets his C. He's chopping the wood. So I forget, that second C, you actually have to hit the stand-up behind him, right? I'm not sure. I think that might be the rule. So that is the final letter. Skate or die. Oh, my goodness. Boom. Are we going to see a comeback? What a great game of Radical we have here. and the second jackpot is gonna be for four million extra ball is lit as well don't ask me how much that is that's came out really funky but Jays got control now you could go for the extra ball I think it's worthless I don't think you want to it is the outland ooh he unfortunately loses the ball let's See if he can get that grace period. Maybe. We just saw how long it is. Stopped blinking, so not much luck there. Just frantically trying to get the ball where he could make it. Just to prove he could have done it. There it is. A little bit too late. Oh, man. I thought he had it. Oh, and there goes the out lane. Great effort from Jay, though. Great game by both competitors. Congratulations to Carl, who's going to be your second place winner at Pinball at the Lake. 2019 Jay Collins will be your third place David Oliver will be fourth place and in first place Brian Krivonac shoutouts to San Diego congrats to everyone we're gonna be doing the presentation here shortly Thanks everyone for tuning in. Thank you, Jonathan. You guys have a wonderful night. I'll try to get them to view. One second. Scooch the camera a little bit so we get a better view. Okay, it's good now. We're good. All right, Raymond's heading out. Thank you, Raymond, for helping me out with commentary. All right, I think that's it for us tonight. Thank you all for tuning in, and we'll see you next time.

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