# Stream 658: Stern LOTR (2003) **Source:** Don't Panic Flip **Type:** video **Published:** 2023-08-10 **Duration:** 148m 18s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFhmJHswlrY --- ## Analysis Don't Panic Flip streams a 2003 Stern Lord of the Rings pinball machine with guest Extra Paul (Bumper Nugget Queen), who provides an extensive rules walkthrough covering the three main multiballs (Two Towers, Fellowship, Return of the King) and their progression requirements. The stream includes discussion of Pinball Jones arcade in Fort Collins, Colorado, and attempts gameplay to practice multiball completion. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] Two Towers multiball requires 84 jackpots minimum (21 per stage × 4 stages) with 2 balls in play, reducible to 28 jackpots with 4 balls in play and extra ball — _Extra Paul explaining Two Towers multiball mechanics to George on Don't Panic Flip stream_ - [HIGH] Fellowship multiball requires exactly 17 shots (9 Balrog hits + 8 ramp hits, as Gandalf never crosses) — _Extra Paul detailing Fellowship of the Ring multiball completion sequence_ - [HIGH] Return of the King multiball requires 29 shots total (7 stages × 4 jackpot shots + 1 super jackpot) — _Extra Paul explaining Return of the King stage structure and shot requirements_ - [HIGH] Pinball Jones in Old Town Fort Collins has 38 playable pinball machines plus arcade games, with Monday all-you-can-play for $5 — _Mr. Bumpernock confirming Pinball Jones inventory and Monday pricing during interview segment_ - [HIGH] Pinball Jones recently installed all Stern Insider aprons on 11 Sam Stern machines, enabling verified achievements that were previously not tracked — _Mr. Bumpernock describing recent venue upgrades and Stern Insider implementation_ - [HIGH] The LOTR machine being played is a 2003 Stern version with incandescent bulbs, on loan from tournament player Escher while he competes in Australia — _George explaining the game's origin and condition at stream start_ - [HIGH] Extra Paul (aka Bumper Nugget Queen, Dark Lady QBL) researched LOTR rules specifically for this stream to provide guest walkthrough — _George mentioning Paul did a deep dive on rules earlier that day before stream_ - [MEDIUM] Valinor wizard mode in LOTR requires all seven gifts of elves, one from each multiball super jackpot, and is described as 'very tough' — _George noting difficulty reaching Valinor and Paul confirming it's achievable through multiball completion_ - [MEDIUM] Pro version of Foo (game not specified which Stern title) is preferred over Premium Edition by the guest, partly due to Area 51 multiball being easier to start on Pro model — _Basetone reporting preference and discussing spinner issues on Pro version affecting New York mode_ - [HIGH] Mr. Bumpernock is taking a streaming hiatus but plans to return after Pinball Jones gets fiber optic internet in September — _Mr. Bumpernock answering George's question about streaming return timeline_ ### Notable Quotes > "I never play this game, and I didn't really know the rules all that well until earlier today." > — **Extra Paul**, ~05:20 > _Establishes that Paul researched rules specifically for the stream to help George understand LOTR mechanics_ > "I just hope the other person sucks more than I do." > — **George**, ~04:50 > _George expressing low confidence in his LOTR gameplay ability, setting up the educational rules walkthrough_ > "I'm not a huge fan of this game, though, to be perfectly honest." > — **Extra Paul**, ~15:30 > _Candid opinion from expert guest about LOTR's design appeal, despite detailed knowledge of mechanics_ > "You have to do that nine times. So you just have to hit the Balrog a ninth time [after Gandalf never crosses]." > — **Extra Paul**, ~45:00 > _Key clarification on Fellowship multiball completion that simplifies the mechanic for viewers_ > "So we're looking at 16 champions. Yeah, basically. Or it's going to be an odd number." > — **Extra Paul and George**, ~47:30 > _The two hosts working through the math together to confirm 17 total shots needed for Fellowship multiball_ > "If you don't hit a shot within a few seconds, it drops a ball and everything is relit." > — **Extra Paul**, ~37:50 > _Important gameplay mechanic explaining shot timing pressure during multiball play_ > "Dennis, screw Bombadil. Not cool." > — **George (joking about chat reaction)**, ~52:00 > _Humorous aside reflecting community sentiment about Tolkien character, shows stream chemistry_ > "We're at 671 XP on the stream. I think we're fast approaching level three, if I had to guess." > — **George**, ~63:20 > _References stream channel points/progression system, showing streamer engagement mechanics_ > "I do know. Or think. Or think. The tower. Mostly fed by skill shots and War of the Ents." > — **Extra Paul**, ~49:30 > _Shows Paul's slight uncertainty about specific tower names while still providing accurate mechanical guidance_ > "I'm taking a hiatus. Yeah, cheers. Yeah. That's eight decibel." > — **Mr. Bumpernock**, ~20:15 > _Confirms streaming break from Pinball Jones location host while venue upgrades are completed_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | George | person | Host of Don't Panic Flip stream, playing and commentating on LOTR 2003 | | Extra Paul | person | Guest expert on stream, also known as Bumper Nugget Queen and Dark Lady QBL, provided detailed LOTR rules walkthrough | | Mr. Bumpernock | person | Employee of Pinball Jones in Fort Collins, Colorado, discussed venue upgrades and streaming hiatus | | Escher | person | Tournament player who loaned the 2003 LOTR machine to Don't Panic Flip while competing in Australia | | The Lord of the Rings (2003 Stern) | game | Pinball machine being played and analyzed on stream; features incandescent bulbs, three main multiballs with complex progression | | Pinball Jones | organization | Pinball arcade in Old Town Fort Collins, Colorado with 38 playable pinball machines; offers $5 all-you-can-play on Mondays; recently installed Stern Insider aprons on 11 games | | Stern Pinball | company | Manufacturer of LOTR 2003 and Stern Insider system referenced for venue implementation | | Don't Panic Flip | organization | Pinball streaming channel and content creator; this is Stream 658 | | Foo | game | Stern pinball game with Pro and Premium Edition variants; guest noted preference for Pro version over Premium | | Area 51 | game | Referenced as easier multiball to start on Pro version of Foo compared to Premium Edition | | Basetone | person | Chat viewer purchasing Foo Premium Edition; reported spinner issues on Pro version affecting New York mode | | Razor | person | Stream chat participant, welcomed at start of stream | | Iron Fox | person | Stream chat participant, welcomed at start of stream | | Dance Panda | person | Stream chat participant; gifted tier 1 sub during stream | | Lamb Diggity Dang Dog | person | Stream chat participant, welcomed at start of stream | | Frisco Pinball | person | Stream chat participant; complimented George's shirt (flamingos theme) | | Theatre of Magic | game | Pinball machine referenced in discussion; Extra Paul mentioned struggling with back-end mechanics | | Jurassic Park | game | Referenced for comparison to LOTR Return of the King jackpot sequence mechanics | | Walking Dead | game | Referenced as having four-ball maximum similar to LOTR 2003 | | Stern Insider | product | Apron/authentication system recently installed on 11 machines at Pinball Jones; enables verified achievements tracking | | Jeff | person | Stream chat viewer who donated 100 bits during broadcast | ### Topics - **Primary:** LOTR 2003 multiball mechanics and progression, Pinball arcade venue operations and upgrades, Game rules walkthroughs and tutorials, Pinball gameplay strategy and shot sequencing - **Secondary:** Stern Insider system implementation and verified achievements, Streaming content creation and community engagement, Wizard mode difficulty (Valinor) in LOTR, Pro vs Premium edition game differentiation ### Sentiment **Positive** (0.75) — George and Extra Paul show enthusiasm for the educational stream format and detailed rules discussion despite Paul admitting he's not a huge LOTR fan mechanically. Community engagement is positive with multiple chat participants. Some technical issues (microphone tininess) momentarily disrupted flow but were resolved. Overall tone is friendly, collaborative, and focused on learning. ### Signals - **[business_signal]** Pinball Jones venue in Fort Collins investing in infrastructure upgrades including fiber optic internet planned for September, indicating growth investment and operational expansion (confidence: high) — Mr. Bumpernock: 'we're gonna be getting like fiber optic internet in september um we've rearranged the whole place kind of giving it a little bit of a facelift' - **[community_signal]** Pinball Jones implementing Stern Insider aprons on all 11 Sam Stern machines to enable verified achievements tracking, indicating venue commitment to Stern ecosystem and player engagement features (confidence: high) — Mr. Bumpernock: 'Within the last month, we installed all of the Sam Stern Insider aprons on all of our Sam Stern Pinball. So we now have 11 that you can log into for the longest time. these three games we're not verified so you weren't getting verified achievements, now you are' - **[community_signal]** Stern Pinball's Insider system enabling verified achievement tracking at location venues demonstrates platform integration supporting operator engagement and player progression features (confidence: high) — Stern Insider apron installation at Pinball Jones enabling verified achievements on previously untracked games - **[event_signal]** Tournament player Escher competing in major Australia tournament event (described as 'Masters or finals'), suggesting active competitive pinball calendar (confidence: medium) — George: 'Escher, who is out in Australia for, I don't know what the Masters or the finals are called, or the big tournament that's happening out there right now' - **[sentiment_shift]** Expert guest (Extra Paul) willing to deep-dive on LOTR rules despite admitting he's 'not a huge fan of this game' suggests strong community knowledge-sharing culture transcending personal preferences (confidence: medium) — Extra Paul: 'I'm not a huge fan of this game, though, to be perfectly honest. But once you're in the Two Towers multiball...' [continues detailed explanation] --- ## Transcript Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. open your eyes what can you see around when does the open sky over the sky sound This is a dream, getting the royal scar Holding a diamond blade, throwing it far Holding your breath still You turn the fire, but I'll just sit and wait Now, she's gonna fly You got it, then I'm trying to tell me you got the wrong guy you got the wrong you got the wrong you got the wrong I'm trying to tell me you got the wrong guy Good evening, everyone. My name is George. This show is Don't Panic Flip, and we're all the way over here up against the wall tonight because we are playing Lord of the Rings, which happened to be on the far side of the game, of the game room, rather, or the living room, whatever you want to call it. Also, a lot of people in chat already. Razor, welcome. Iron Fox, Dance Panda, welcome. I feel like I just saw you a few minutes ago. Lamb Diggity Dang Dog, welcome as well. On top of everything else, we have... Go, Beans and Money! Fisco Finball, welcome Bathtone, welcome as well So we have a guest this evening We have Extra Paul here, aka Bumper Nugget Queen Dark Lady QBL, hello And with Extra Paul here I don't know the rules very well to Lord of the Rings I know, get into multi-balls and that's usually where a decent amount of points are and even that I feel like I just I almost always lose on Lord of the Rings. I just hope the other person sucks more than I do. Yeah, I never play this game, and I didn't really know the rules all that well until earlier today. Okay. So I mentioned to Paul I would love to do a deep dive, and he's like, okay, let me go deep dive. So that way I can walk you through the rules set on Lord of the Rings. Valinor or bust tonight, says Frisco Pinball. I'm probably going to be bust. Probably bust, yeah. Getting real hyped. Everything is lining up to pick up Foo Premium on Sunday morning. Basetone, congratulations. Enjoy it. Foo is a fantastic game. I really enjoy the premium. You spent a lot of time on the Pro and a little bit on my premium. Thoughts so far on the Pro versus the Premium? I think I like the Pro better. Okay. Personally. But our Pro also had a busted spinner until yesterday. So New York was broken, and you couldn't – It was really hard to finish it. You'd have to, like, load up on bombs and then use the captive ball to use your center button to finish it. So, if anything, that should make the Pro even better. So what is it about the Pro to you that makes it seem better than the Premium? Just the fact that the Area 51 is a lot easier to start. Area 51 is the, sorry, is that the multiball? on the, oh, the upper right ramp. Yeah. Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! You never love me, mom! My hat's off to you. Stream Aesthetics just went retro. It really never gets old. I do love that video. I want to change it out. There's lots of things I'd love to do when I have time. Time is a real problem. And speaking about time being a problem, Mr. Bumpernock, you have not streamed in a little bit. I haven't. I'm taking a hoti-atus. Ha, nice. Yeah, cheers. Cheers. Yeah. That's eight decibel. Elagos, welcome. So when do you foresee jumping back into the streaming ring? That's a great question. Pinball Jones has, which is where I primarily stream from, here in Fort Collins, we've been doing some stuff. Not really renovations, but we've been boosting up the internet. Within the last month, we installed all of the Stern Insider aprons on all of our Stern games. So we now have 11 that you can log into for the longest time. these three games we're not verified so you weren't getting verified achievements, now you are we have a high score TV set up in the back as well oh nice, so it's the location Stern high scores also Dance Panda just gifted a tier 1 sub to Iron Fox Dance Panda my hat's off to you thank you very much continue though so uh yeah uh we're gonna be getting like fiber optic internet in september um we've rearranged the whole place kind of giving it a little bit of a facelift without changing anything okay i like it in a way like it's all the same games but so now do you officially work at pinball jones i do okay you are a pinball jones employee yeah where is pinball jones uh It's an old town of Fort Collins. Okay. So there is a pinball establishment with about how many active games, pinball games are in it? I'm going to say it's over, definitely over 30. I'm not sure if it's over 35, though. Okay. I can pinball map it. We could say it's somewhere between 35 and maybe 40 pinball machines, actively playable, plus air hockey, which is super irritating if you're a pinball person. Pac-Man and the cool Atari Pong game. Yep. Like the full table. I love that game, actually. I know. Dance Panda, thank you. I also, I mean, I have the beard. Mr. Hard Luck, good evening. A. Ogden, welcome as well. Also, Frisco really enjoys your shirt. That is actually the second compliment you've received on Flamingos today. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I'm still trying to find it. Good evening, George Paul and Ringo. I mean, Chad. That is actually, we're half of the Beatles. 38. 38 machines. 38? Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Well, so 38 machines. The place is called Pinball Jones. It's in Old Town Fort Collins, subterranean location. If you are anywhere in northern Colorado, make sure to visit. Fire Peanut, good evening. I think the best deal in pinball if you come on a Monday from noon until midnight which is open to close for Mondays at least $5 all you can play free play are there any games restricted or is it all open we're currently actually expanding there were a few games that were restricted like the four player Simpsons and the four player Turtles were not on that list Oh, sorry, you're talking about arcade games too, not just pinball. Yeah, everything is getting bumped up there. So, yeah, skee-ball's on free play, air hockey's on free play. Dang. It's all on free play. Okay. And it's five bucks. Awesome. So, there you go. Pinball Jones, make sure to check it out. Now, I'm going to switch over to the main view here, and we have ourselves an actual 2003 Lord of the Rings. This isn't the 2009 LE version. This is a 2003 with incandescent bulbs still inside it right now. Wonderfully on loan from Escher, who is out in Australia for the, I don't know what the Masters or the finals are called, or the big tournament that's happening out there right now. Pin Monk, good evening. Is this the milk can profile for the microphone tonight? Oh, are we super far? That's right. Hi, guys. sorry about that as we actually start playing the volume should get better I'll try and project a little bit more in fact here we'll rotate so Escher wonderfully offered to allow me to have Lord of the Rings while he was out in Vegas so it's an opportunity to maybe try and get to Valinor honestly I don't think it's going to happen if it does that's great it's just very Timmy Is that the case? Can someone else confirm that? Yeah, that the. Oh, the mic is tinny. Yeah, it shouldn't be tinny. I recorded on with, oh, my God, Joel and Hottie, actually, Frisco Pinball last night. I'm going to put it up on my phone and see what it sounds like. Yeah. All right. I don't want a tinny sound to the game. That's not what we're trying to do here. Oh. I'm listening on my phone, so it's hard to tell. Okay. I'm like, that ad has fantastic sound. You sounded okay. Yeah, I thought I sounded better than okay. Hey, Bill from Memphis. No, Pin Monk, I had amazing sound quality last night on that stream. I went back and listened to it. I feel like my voice came through beautifully. Okay, LambDiggityDangDog is saying I sound good right now. I'll take it. I got one thumbs up. That's not confirmation bias. I don't know what your problem is. It works on my machine. So short opportunity between now and maybe the next, like, three weeks or so to get on here. Who knows? Maybe take a stab at Valinor. I don't think it's actually going to happen. That is a really tough wizard mode. Regardless, we have Paul here tonight to help us figure out, even though I have no intention of getting there, it's probably not going to happen. It is a bit. Gosh, darn it. Oh, you know, I'm going to check the connection. Remember, we disconnected it and reconnected it. Maybe we have a bit of a loose connection on the XLR. Who knows? Hold on. Okay, okay. Like in that, that clicked into place wonderfully. Then I'm going to do this guy. Uh-oh. What happened? That's irritating. I knocked over one of the cameras. There we go. So, I don't know. Is that? Never been close to Valinor. Finishing the multiballs alone is hard enough. Right. So that's what we are going to be focusing on tonight is Paul went and figured all that stuff out. I did. I did. So while I'm working on getting the camera that just fell over the line back up, do you want to start walking people through, maybe for me at least, start at the multiballs. I want to know what we need to do in each of the multiballs in order to complete those. Yeah. It sounds worse when you're under the table. Thank you, Razor. All right, so I got my notes here. Probably the easiest one is going to be... Oh, I can hear myself now. Okay, awesome. So the easiest one is going to be the two towers, right? That is qualified by spelling your keep in and outlanes. The first one is a little bit easier to start because you can stack the locks. after that first one, and this goes the same for any of the multiballs, they get harder to relight. And I'm probably repeating a lot of, anybody who's a fan of this game already knows this. I'm not a huge fan of this game, though, to be perfectly honest. But once you're in the two towers multiball, to get the coveted super jackpot and light one of the seven gifts of the elves that you need to get to Balinor. You have to, there are four stages. So this is the multiball where you hear the jackpot one. Yes. Jackpot two, and it's actually right out of the gates, you're probably going to hear double jackpot one. Okay. So that double is important. Okay. So you need 21 single jackpots to advance to the next stage. Okay. There are four stages. Okay. So if you have three balls in play, then you are going to be getting double jackpots. Okay. If you get an add-a-ball, now you're... Sorry, you need 27 jackpots. 21. Sorry, 21. And for each ball in play above one, so each, sorry, for two, it would be a 1x on every jackpot. If you have three balls in play, it's 2x for every jackpot. Yeah, so if you have three balls in play, it's double jackpot one, double jackpot two, et cetera. Okay, so keep all the balls in play. If you get an add a ball, which if you light your Palantir, which you can do by hitting the right tower, that scoop all the way up at the very top, then hitting the Palantir target, you will add a ball. And now you'll be making triple jackpot one, triple jackpot two. Got it, got it. So it's based on the number of balls in play. By definition, multiball means two. So while you're in multiball, you gain, with two multi-balls, with two balls in multiball play, you're gaining your jackpots at 1x. If you're going to get 21. Yeah. At 3, it would be 2x. And if you can get your add-a-ball, you're now getting 3. Meaning you would only need seven jackpots in order to clear stage one. Correct. Okay. There are four stages. Got it. Stage two. What's stage two at? It's the same. You complete a stage. It's rinse and repeat. Another 21? Another 21. Another 21 and another 21. So four stages with 21 jackpots. Yes. Jesus. Okay. And Frisco asking, do they save progress? And I think that's it, right? They do. Okay. They thankfully do. Super jackpot will be lit after you hit. I think everything's lit for jackpot during that multiball. But once you've lit your super, it's lit at the ring. All of the other jackpots are going to go dark, and it's just the ring that's lit. Okay. So that's our two towers, multiball. Easiest one to start and maybe the easiest one to complete. Okay, so 84 jackpots is really what it boils down to. Unless you have four balls in play. Unless you have four balls. Then divide by three. Okay, get the extra ball, make progress. Yeah, and I'm not entirely certain on the math on this because you can potentially max out your, because it goes jackpot one, jackpot two. is actually maxes out at 7. So as you get jackpot, I noticed with jackpot 1 versus jackpot 2, jackpot 3, it has to do with how quickly you get jackpots. Are those also multipliers? I don't know. Not for sure on that. Higher Peanut, can you answer that question? And we don't have to sit here and wait. So close enough, we know at best case scenario, we have to hit 84 jackpots, or worst case scenario, we have to hit 84 jackpots if you have two balls in that multiball. Yeah, and some people like to play this. Those are point multipliers, not progress multipliers. Okay, that's what I thought. But the balls in play is progress multipliers. Yes, okay. For sure. Okay, and we're focusing tonight on progression entirely. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Got it. That is one multiball. Hyropunit does bring up a great point, though. If you start Gollum multiball while you're in, that adds a ball. Then that's going to And there's only four balls in this game, right? I think so? I don't know. Okay. I'm assuming it maxes every four balls. Take off the lockdown bar and find out. No, no, no. I'm assuming since Walking Dead only has four balls, that this likely only has four balls. It might. Okay. It very well might. Yeah, if you don't hit a shot within a few seconds, it drops a combo and everything is relit. But, yeah, once again, we're not caring about points and hitting those shots in quick succession can be dangerous. Okay. to where you're going to lose one of those balls, and now your progression is dwarfed. Okay. Right? Yes. Your speed on progression is dwarfed. So instead, if you get into two towers, I would suggest trapping up and holding on to as many balls as you can while you just hit one shot all day. And that one shot should be your left orbit to progress towards getting extra balls. Okay, got it. There's another thing you should be doing, which is hitting the left orbit. We'll get back to that. Yeah. And to start two towers, you have to spell keep three times, and I think we allow stacking. Did we change that? For the first one. Okay. The first one allows stacking. You spell keep, which is your rollovers on your inlanes and outlanes. You can rotate them with the flip of a flipper button. Three locks that lock on the sword. That gets you into two towers. All right. Walk me through fellowship. Fellowship of the ring. Great question. So for fellowship, you have to collect all nine characters. represented right in the middle of the playfield here, Pippen, Mary, Sam, Aragorn, Frodo, Gandalf, Legolas, Gimli, and Boromir. And those are all shots on the playfield. You just have to hit them once in order to collect. Sort of. Boromir, I think, is awarded from a certain number of pops, hits. Okay. Yeah. So that's, let's see here. That's Fellowship. Okay. Yeah. Now, to start it, you've got to hit the left orbit, right? into the Palantir shot? The, yeah, the, the, I'm sorry, the right tower. Tower, sorry. Yeah, yeah, that tower likes Palantir, so it's forgivable that you said that. I think it likes the Palantir. Yeah, yeah, that's how you start it. I think if it lands in there, like, sometimes the ring can spit it out a weird way and it'll just bounce in there. Yeah, that happens on this actually fairly often. So, it's another way to kind of get in there, but let's not count on that. Yeah. So for completion, this was actually pretty simple comparatively. I would say this multiball is fewer shots. Okay. Than 84 minimum or maximum? Yeah. Okay. This one is, there's no way to shorten it or lengthen it at all, though. So you need to, I guess the theme of this is to get the members of the fellowship across the bridge and pass the ball rock. Okay. Right? You shall not pass. That's when you get the super jackpot, you will hear that call out. Okay. So how do you do that then? So the ball rock is going to pop out. Yes. Just like he's sitting there right now. You got to hit the ball rock and then you have to hit one of the two ramps. ballrog and then it's either the left this um the legolas shot or the aragorn okay yep how many times you have to do that if you if you hit the ballrog then the ballrog is is uh knocked out for a second and you're making pippin cross for by hitting one of the ramps then you got to hit the ballrog and hit one of the ramps to make mary cross oh got it so so it's Ball-rog and then individually get everyone to cross. What about Boromir? Even Boromir. So you have to get into the pops? Well, no. It's just ball-rog, ramp. Ball-rog, ramp. Ball-rog, ramp. Got it. Sorry. You said the ramps, and I got lost for a second. You don't have to hit the individual shots. So it's ball-rog, and then every ramp you get, either Legolas or Aragorn, is one person making their way across the bridge. Yes. And the last person to cross. So you have to do that one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. So you have to hit exactly on the shots. It's only eight because Gandalf never crossed. So you just have to hit the Balrog a ninth time. If you drain, you are spotted one Fellowship member towards starting the multiball. Okay, good to know. And once for every member of the Fellowship. Got it. So we're looking at 16 champions. Yeah, basically. Or it's going to be an odd number. Well, it would be Balrog, Ramp, Balrog, Ramp. Instead of nine, it's eight people. So it would be 16. You have to finish at Balrog. So Gandalf gets the, yeah. Okay. 17 shots. 17 shots as opposed to a maximum of 84. Okay. Got it. All right. Next up we have Return of the King. Arguably the hardest one to qualify, right? Right, because you've got to get it up into whatever that other tower is, Sormon's Tower, and it kicks it up top, and you have to keep rolling over all of those. Yeah. Yeah, the upper play field, which we refer to as the Path of the Dead. Path of the Dead. Excellent. Okay. I hope everyone's enjoying this walkthrough right now. I know I'm actually paying attention for the first time. Yeah. So easy ways to get into the, I believe that's the Orthanc Tower. Okay. I don't know. I don't. I'm not enough of a Tolkien nerd to know all the names. Oh, yeah. No, I do know. Or think. Or think. The tower. Mostly fed by skill shots and War of the Unspoken. Ballander. That's silly. The other tower. That's silly. Yeah. So you can get that on a skill shot with your tower. Sorry. Digression for a second. Tom Bombadil is still the worst character in literature. Dennis, screw Tom Bombadil. Not cool. Please continue. No, that's fine. So, ways to get to the Path of the Dead. I'm not going to bother with the Orthanc word anymore. Path of the Dead. To get there, you can do your Tower's Healshot. You can also play War of the Ents. That's a great way to get to Path of the Dead. And also complete a mood. Yeah. Yeah, simultaneously. And then other ways to get there would be by luck. That's probably how you're going to get up there most of the time. Wait, Pinmung's saying Timbenzadrine is the worst. I have in my pocket Benzadrex. Is that by chance at all related? This is a nasal decongestant inhaler. Please continue. Sorry. Travis Benadryl. So the other way that I think most people might not know about, Well, you can get directly into that tower by hitting the left orbit directly from your in lane. Oh, so lock a shot, hit the left, and it has a blocker that drops it into the Orthank tower. Yeah, you can either hit the ramp, you can hit the Gimli shot. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I just got here. You can start over. All right. So, two sours multiball. Okay. So, cool. There's a little hack, basically, to do that from that one shot. So, imagine you roll over and you get all of the souls. Do you know the exact amount of souls you have to hit? I do, actually. What is it? It is five grand. 5,000 souls. So, imagine you get 5,000 souls. Does the multiball start as soon as you hit 5,000, or do you have to do something? No, you have to hit the fuck again. That tower. Got it. Hit the tower one more time and... Yeah, and then it starts. Now we're in Return of the King. How do you complete Return of the King? Easier ways to complete that. So when you get each one of these lanes on your Path of the Dead, it's going to award you a certain number of souls based off of what this light on the back plane is showing, which I don't think you folks at home can see. No, you definitely can't. But there's a 1, 2, 3, 4, and then on the souls, there is a 1, 2, 3, 4 representing the rollovers that could possibly be hit based on what random direction the ball will take. Each one of those lights corresponding to each one of the lanes can have three states. It can be off, which is worth 100 souls. Okay. It can be on, which is worth 250 souls. Okay. Or it can be flashing, which is worth 500 souls. Got it. Okay. So to increase the state of those lights, you can hit one of four different targets, which will just randomly bump up the value of one of the lights. Okay. The lights can be, or aka values can be rearranged by, wow. Jeff, thank you so much for dropping 100 bits. You are fantastic. My hat's off to you. And what have we got here? We're at 671 XP on the stream. I think we're fast approaching level three, if I had to guess. We have something special for tonight, by the way. If we can hit level four. Yeah, something different. Something a little different, but only different for me. Maybe it's something you're familiar with. I might be familiar with it. Yeah, yeah. Bumper Nugget might be familiar. All right, so you can rearrange the values by hitting the pop bumper hits. pop bumper hits are going to change what lights are where. It doesn't really matter, though. So the four targets to increase the value of each one of those lanes would be the Palantir, the spot ring, the target at the back of the Shire shot, and there's actually a target all the way at the back of that right ramp. Okay. Those four targets will increase the state of those lanes. The chances that as you roll over, you get 500 instead of 100. Yep. So if you hit those four targets a total of 12 times, then you are maxed out on all four of your lanes. Okay. If that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, it does. Okay. So that's an easy way to quickly get into return of the game. Yeah. Yeah, because there's a chance you might not finish it the first go around. Okay. Good chance. Sure. So once you're in it, though, as you were alluding to before, for completion, there are seven stages on this one. But they're not nearly as tough as Two Towers. Got it. So there's seven stages. There's four jackpots that are lit, and they're all of your ring shots. So any shot you see here with man, dwarf, elf, meaning you're a left ramp, you're a right ramp, you're inner orbit, and you're right orbit, those are your four jackpot shots. Okay. So you need to hit all four of those once, each one of those once to advance. To the next level. To the next level, yeah. Does each level change, or is it just the same thing four times? Same thing. So 16 shots. Yep. And if you're going for points, each one of those is randomly awarded a single, a double, a triple, and a 4X jackpot. Called quadruple. Well, yeah. Yeah, I guess. 1X, 2X, 3X, 4X. Sure, sure. And if you hit those in that order, then your points will go up on the next stage. Ah, right. I repeat, I was saying the same thing. So this is just like in Jurassic Park. If you start from the left and move to the right and do them in order, you get a multiplier on everything? It's similar to that, but it's not going to be from left to right. Okay, got it. It's different. How do you know which direction to go? Look up at your screen. Oh, it tells you. Yep, it'll tell you. This one's 1x, this one's 2x. Got it. We're not going to worry about that, though. That's all about points. Because we don't care about points. Yeah. Got it. Okay, so four stages, and then what lights at the end? What's the super jack? Once you're in your eighth stage, you need to hit one of those four shots for your super. It wasn't four stages. It was seven. So we got 28 shots, and then you hit what? 29. Okay. Because you need a super. And what's the super? One of those four shots. Oh, just one. Got it. Okay, so 29 shots, not 84. Correct. Yeah, we started off with the easiest light to light and maybe the hardest to complete. But that really depends on how many balls you have in play. Okay. Now, I understand now, and I want to reinforce that learning around the multiballs. I don't think we're going to make it to Valinor right away. So can I suggest that we focus on multiball completion for a game or two? Sure. And then we stop, we come back, and then we can talk about what else is needed to actually get to Valinor. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. We've talked enough. And do you want to get us started, sir? You're the special guest of the evening. Why not? All right. We're going to play an actual game, and look at us. We're 38 minutes in. We're actually doing better than if I'm just chatting. There are four supers, only one, right, and that's at stage eight. But if you get all four, you get victory laps. Okay, cool. Yeah, victory laps, once again. Points. Points, yep. Okay. Let's see if I can find our tower shot here. Nope. honestly even if you pull plunge there's a good chance you hit the towel oh really yeah oh just because it rattles around yes now to add insult to injury this is uh this is pitched by the way at escher pitch okay which means it's fully extended in the back and dropped to the lowest possible in the front It still feels floaty to me. I don't know why. Yeah. Maybe that's why the flippers felt weak earlier. I don't know. Yeah. Let's see here. Also, CMK asking what we're drinking. Ooh. Excellent question. Okay. We are drinking this guy right here. This is a sweet wine called Martini and Rossi, 7.5% alcohol. And it is a quality, aromatic, sparkling wine that is sweet. And the bottle is now empty. Oh, that's not the mode I wanted. I wanted more of the ants. I don't know the way. All right, we'll see if I can get a gift here. Attack of the Shrew. Martini and Rossi, Osti, Spumante? No, I don't think it was that. I have a thing that I'm asking. Which slingshot you go for is also a dark thing. It's also timed by the lights in the shooter lane. You get the tower, but not the skill shot if you don't time it. Then the dream, says the monk. Okay. I'm not familiar with that game. But Tom Bombadil is pretty frustrating. You know, I have struggled to back end that, just FYI. Well, yeah, I was struggling with the standard ring shot to begin with. Yep. You've got to hit everything very cleanly on this. So it's a 500, a 250, and a 100. And you've got 350 total. So you need Mary, Sam, and Gimli. Gimli is the weird little saucer. That one, which you blast it right through. That one. All right, so you still need Mary, Sam, and Gimli. Yeah, I'm also trying to complete this mode as well. Oh, yes, we got the Gimli. Nice, nice. Okay, just Sam and Mary left. And I'm one shot away from completing the mode. Now, is this timed? Yes, somewhat. It's not your standard 30 seconds. I don't want the spider to catch Frodo. That's all it is. that counted. So I finished the mode. I got a gift lit. Okay. And are the gifts distributed? Yeah. But I can change which gift is lit by hitting the Shire, the Sam. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So if I want to light my extra ball, just do it until it lights. then I tell Escher that he pitched this wrong. So I have 2X scoring lit right now. If I was worried about scores, then that would be the way to go. But I have my two towers lit, which we said we were focusing on multi-balls. Yes, yes. None on gifts. 84 of these. All right. So can you backhand the right ramp is the question with the pitch to Jesus. Yes. Okay. It's a quick backhand. All right. Cool. And we have Golem Rift for our edible. Okay, so you're currently only have to get 42 jackpots. Oh, no. Let's do. Game. It might do a ball search. It might break your post, though, at the same time. Find out. Hey-o. Sorry. That was my bad. So there's no ball save on this one, Swimmy. You just lost the ball. Great. Somebody just leveled up. Level three, surreal underscore seven. Hey, I remember this. 28 months. How the heck are you doing? And yes, Pin Monk, Dwight did help. By the way, all of the hats off to you, Surreal. I'm on Jack Duffel Mountain too! And we just hit level 3. We are now one level away from the super secret edition or change. While Paul is here. Oh, no. Oh, no. That is our two towers. For now. Okay, now, is there, did it tell you how many, oh, maybe here in the instant info, it tells you how many jackpots? It doesn't, unfortunately. Okay. Yeah, yeah, no. Okay, so next I'm going to go for War of the Ants and try and light more souls. How do you light a mode? That's a great question. You need three rings of elves. Okay. So I don't have my mode start lit right now. Yes. Right? So you've got elf lit on the Legolas shot. Uh-huh. And that's it. And that's it. So if I combo that, it'll light more elf rings for a limited amount of time. You can also hit the center to spot an elf ring as well. So if at any given point in the game you can actually, like if you just finished a mode and you don't have any rings, you can just spam the... The spinner in the ring shot? Yep. Like four times you'll be in another mode. uh higher peanut commenting it doesn't tell you just have to listen for storm on the stages of this team uh pin monk indeed elves aren't fusty okay hey we start fellowship all right so your fellowship fellowship requires 27 shots. Yep, and so we're just going ball-rog ramp. Ball-rog ramp. Ball-rog ramp. Ball-rog ramp. Ball-rog. Jesus, that was so loud. Nice, nice. All right, you've got one cross. All right, hit. Okay. So that's what's worth $200,000. There you go. Now you've got two crossed. Four of them here just crossed. Four of them here. Four of them. Sounds like four of them. Oh, nice save. I thought that was gone. All right, you need a ramp? You can backhand the right ramp? Can I? You can. I mean, you hit Balrog again for another 200,000. There you go. All right, Frodo just crossed. Only by four, so ten shots. I guess 11. You did that one out of order. Now you have to hit the ramp. It's faster than that. Okay. Nice. Huh? Late? Now, can you get the gift right now if you hit that left orbit? I don't believe so. Mary just crossed. We're going to leave you with four more. Oh, no. That's my only danger. That's right. It's a danger, and then you tilt. Correct. So this is not your standard two tilts and then, or sorry, two dangers and then tilt. Oh, no. Okay, game. I think it's just off that switch. Yep, because the other ball's pushing it off. Yep. Can you back, yes, you can backhand the sword, Grant, but it is a very quick shot. There we go. Nice. Gimli just crossed. Legolas just crossed. I got it. You defeated the Balrog. Okay, so you got the super. For five million, now you've also activated Ring Frenzy. Cool. Okay, so you have one of those things done, and you just got another gift. Yeah, and that's where my ring frenzy came from. Oh, got it. It's like counting down rings. It needs me to hit a ring shot. Almost. Oh, in order to maintain ring frenzy. Yeah. This really, that doesn't do anything for me, right? It'll give me an extra ball. Oh, really? If I complete it. Okay. Surreal love hates this game. I hate it. Trapping on White Star will beat up those different ways people can kill you. All right, these are all at 500, so you're guaranteed 1,000 toot. Sweet. Gollum's Cave, super everything. You are still in great frenzy. Yeah, I was just Gollum multiball before. Night and Nightmen, welcome to the stream. Yep, we're going to... Oh, we've got to shoot again. And you've got to shoot again. And you got all four rollovers, so that was 2K sold. So on your shoot again, you are just about ready, I'm guessing at this point, to start your return of the king. And you've got one of the two completed. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know how far we are on two towers. I think you maybe got like 10 or 12. I don't think, yeah. No, but you did have a couple. No, you dropped your third ball pretty quickly. Yeah, I did. So, yeah, I would go with 10 or 12. I wasn't playing conservatively like I said I should. And remember, there's no ball save, and you're only allowed one danger before you tilt. So it's a little bit harder here. Okay. And the flippers are not very strong. I'm definitely not complaining alright so we need six shots to complete this mode that's one three of these are 500 and you got both return of the king of the legs sweet that works And that'll start the return of the king. So you can see here I have one, two, three, four. Got it. So this is eight phases of hitting four shots. Correct. Does the middle spot you? Is there anything that spots beside him? Is there anything Palantir does? No. Palantir will add a ball, but it is random, so that's not guaranteed. Nope. Good night. Good night. Anibal, also, unlike Potter and Spirits, will not also give any ball saver. All right, so you're iced. I mean, wonderful triple drain, I feel like, right there towards the end. I also want to add that you did not complete phase one. Great. If you have 65 million, that's not a bad score for ball one. Yeah, I'm pleased with that. I don't normally get that. Mainly because I didn't know the rules before. But for my next ball, I have to destroy the ring before I can play a multi. Okay. Oh, no. Good start. Good start. Feeling warmed up. Maybe that next ball will be the good one. It feels like a role reversal. Got that skill shot. That's my move, usually. Do I still want... No, I want... I want... Tower. Also, sorry for the glare, y'all. It's a very dark thing. Two-liter pressure. Two-liter pressure. Six ring up. Uh, the empty bottle should have been the big clue. Yep. Okay. Cool. Yeah. I got the good ones. And we're right back up there. 250, 250, 100, 800. That's not bad. 350. Oh, I guess I've got 400. So once you've been to Fellowship once, I think you have to collect everybody in order the next time? No. There will be some characters that are available. So if I hit Sam right now, I will collect Sam. I think you have to hit him. I'm not sure if you have to hit each shot like twice as much as before. But I've been hitting other shots, so I think it's just kind of random. Okay. I need to collect Sam right now to make another character available. Gotcha. Gusty Gale, welcome to the stream. It's in order of what's lit. Got it. So you have to do it in an order, but it's not a specific order. It's seemingly random. Yeah, it's just, I think it's whatever's lit. Also, you have lit destroy the ring. Yeah, I should be doing that, but... Hey! First for that. So just like our return to Cain, it's all of the ring shots. It's the... You cannot progress on township while you're in here. No, you can't progress on anything. I can't even light my extra ball at the gift shot. Okay. Okay. This is Orbit. I'm having a little trouble finding the right ramp. Let's see here. This is the furthest I've got. I need one ring shot to destroy it. All right. There's another destroyed thing. Putting out a gift for Matt. Okay. And the goal is to get all six gifts, right? Seven. Seven. It's not bad. I'll take it. Literally the exact same thing. I hit the exact same stand-up in the exact same way in the exact same shot. Gusty Gale just cheered 100 bits. Gusty, you're fantastic. Thank you. Try a ski jump. A ski jump? Yeah, where you just lift the – and bounce it over the other side. Oh, I should try that. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I was trying to start a mode, though. George did nothing. It's not consistent. I thought we were going for multi-balls. Wait, we can start going for modes now? Well, I did a mode specifically to light a multiball. I went War of the Ends. Hey! Don't have the extra ball yet, but we sure did light it. And there it goes. Bye-bye. No extra ball for me. I'm doing it this time. I know there's consistency, and then there's whatever this is. We're doing it. All right, so I'm set up so that way I move the left flipper, and I will get more of the ants. On the fly. I didn't die right away. but I am going to spell keep. All right, one tower hit. Tower bonus at three. We're doing some things here. I'm pretty happy with what I'm seeing. So, okay. Got to get my skills going here. I'll take that. Two tower hits. Tower bonus still at three. Sure. What do I need here? Legolas. I've got to find that shot. There it is. I love that shot. I'm okay. Yeah. Okay. That was lit. I think we got our 500 there. I'll take that. What else do I need? Frodo. Which one's Frodo? The ring. Got it. And it looks like just sand is left. Okay, which is that shot right there. So we just started the battle with Sormon. The graphics on this are fantastic. One. One. So this mode is really just the ramps. Okay. I don't know why it was flashing, so I thought it switched to the Gandalf target. But whatever, that's fine. I'm pretty sure that one's just ramped. Okay. So that one actually stacks really well with the Fellowship multiball. Because Fellowship, you're going for Balrog and then a ramp. 84 jackpot. Oh, no, sorry. Fellowship is Balrog ramp. Got it. Not Two Towers. So if you're going Gandalf versus Saruman, you want to bring Two Towers. Or Fellowship into it. Okay. I'm going to start another game. Do you mind if I go first since I sucked? Go for it. Okay. You were crushing it towards the end there with all your combos. J-Land, welcome. The character shots generally make sense with the lore, which is so nice. One ring to rule them all. And why isn't a color screen in this? This is not my game, C&K. I have this on loan from Escher. Escher is fantastic and helped me bring this over. He is away winning tournaments. Sure, I'll take Gimli. All right, let's go maybe Gandalf. Totally Gandalf. Let's go Aragorn or Merry. We got Aragorn. We got Pippin. 5,000 souls. All right, we'll start working on keep. What do we need? We still need Gandalf. Totally got there. Do we need Pippin? We do not need Pippin. We need Legolas, and that's going to send it to Peer and Lance. I'll take that. Sam, there we go. Frodo is up the middle. Didn't count. We still didn't get Frodo. We have to land that shot. What did it give me? Darn it. All right, which one's Mary? Oh, Mary is right orbit. Totally got there. Got it. There's a locked shot. I'll take that. I love the hitting the left flipper and then just let it bounce off and hit the right flipper. It's my favorite shot. Is that your doing? Yeah, the Australian Masters. Exactly. So what do we need? Legolas, which for whatever reason I haven't been able to find, and the mode start on the middle. Got it. Ooh, that should have been in. It really should have been. Frodo. I'll take it. I'll take it. All right. So fellowship is lit. Fellowship requires 28 shots. Or 27. And I wasn't paying attention. Let me pull it up. It's not 27. You keep going back to 27. Yeah. And it's 21 times 4. No, that's two towers. Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah, the total ship is 17 shots. Okay. I'm going to try and separate here. Darn it. Legoloss is still lit. I'll take it. Oh, that's for your fellow Yoda. Oh, man, that sucks. Ball two locked. So if you want to get back into fellowship, Yeah, Pippin is the only thing that is lit right now. If I want to get back, oh, right, because now you have to work your way. Yep. That's a lot of 500s. I didn't know that was a move on this game. All right, so I did not finish that. Let's go ahead and hit Pippin. All right, now we need Mary. It is working from left to right, though. Yeah, that might be the second phase of qualifying. Like, if you don't complete fellowship this second time, then it might be random. And which one is Mary is, of course, on the far right. So the other thing I could be working towards right now would be this. and two towers to the lid yeah no danger on that one evidently not oh my gosh okay what do I need to do oh I have to hit the lock one more time to actually start two towers Golem multiball is lit, which is interesting because two towers, that's the thing you want to do because 84 divided by three. Okay. Gusty Gale, 111 XP. You're fast approaching level two at 250. They got fancy new streaming gear. They were testing. Oh, nice. You're saying the Brisbane Masters got fancy new streaming gear. A new power is rising. We're down to single jackpots. It does look like you're locked out of Gollum right now. Really? Yeah. I'm in it now. Oh. Oh, it brought you right back into it. Okay, so you're still at Ziggles. If you want to get back up to three balls, I would suggest hitting that left orbit, which will light your Palantir for an animal. Palantir for an animal. Right now? Yep. There you go. Okay, so now we're in 2X. I only need 42 of these. Don't. Stop counting. On the bright side, everything is lit, right? Right. You're so positive. Somebody just did some gusty. Gail just increased the stream XP by 500. Is that going to be enough? Survey is out. Looking for cameras. Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! Yeet! You never love me, Mom. Is it doing it? Yes. He's got feet. He's got the feet cam. Yeet. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's really not the most superb performance. All right. So, awesome. All right, we need to work on stuff and things and all those things. So here's an important point that I want to make right now, George, because as you get more well-versed with these rules, you're going to find yourself in a position like this again, where you've played two multi-balls. Uh-huh. and maybe you completed one of them before okay you can before and I know like it seems like you only have return of the king to light but you can actually get back into the two towers sure before having to go and destroy the ring if that makes sense it does So if you Chances are I haven't seen anybody do this Like flawlessly Where you enter the You complete the multi Every all three of the multi balls The first time you enter it So you're probably going to have to play One of them twice So if you were in a situation where you had already Played and completed The return of the king Okay I would say avoid lighting Return of the King. Until? At all costs. Until you complete the multiball game. That way you don't have to light and play all three multi-balls to get back to destroy the ring. Okay. Because that's a mistake a lot of people make. I'm going to try and not start it, but we'll see. I mean, it doesn't really matter too much right now. You need to refer to the king. I'm just saying if you find yourself in a similar situation like this, there's a way that you can, there's lots of ways that you can kind of erase your progress and make a lot more work for yourself in order to get it balanced. Got it. That's why people hate this wizard mode and why it's the most difficult and brutal. That makes sense, because if you make a mistake, you are screwed. All right, so I got a lock and, oh, I escaped the ring rates. And we got a thingy. Yeah. So the most valuable gift that you can get would be extra gold. So we discussed earlier what you've been hitting a lot of these ring shots, which is great. Sure. What is it? What are they getting you? I know the elf lights mode, if we can get three of those. I have no idea what dwarf does, and I have no idea what man does. Okay. So you need, just like the Lord, you need, there were three rings for elves, seven for dwarves. And once you get seven dwarf rings, it'll light mystery at the Shire shot. That's your Sam shot all the way over on the left. Yep. So that can award extra ball. Yeah, so you've gotten, yeah, there you go. being random, it's a little bit different from your Palantir mystery. Palantir does not award extra ball. Can. But the Dwarf mystery does. Can. Got it. By the way, I'm halfway on getting back into one, and I've got ball two locked on the other side. So what does men do? Nine rings of men. What's your column? Ah, okay. Now we know that. I don't want war at the ends because I kind of want to avoid getting back into Return of the King just yet until I complete Two Towers and Fellowship. Okay. I do want to play it that way. That was a suggestion for a future run. I think you completed one single mode so far, right? Yes. And now I'm destroying the Witch King. Okay. This is the toughest one. I almost wouldn't bother. You need... Yeah. Yeah. Witch King is hands down the toughest mode Okay Okay What makes it so tough You need four combos within 30 seconds Oh my God Well, I could totally, I mean, I've been comboing up. Does it have to be different shots? No, it has to be very specific shots. So it has to be either your first shot has to be Legolas or Mary at the right orbit. So left ramp or right orbit and finish at the right ramp. I think I could do that with my little sick combo. So I do Mary into the ramp by letting it bounce off that. But on the return, when you hit Mary, as it's coming around, you need to hit the ramp. Yeah. Okay. All right. What you've been doing so far has just been repeating Mary. Or, well, I've been repeating Mary if I time it late, but if I time it early, I can, like, 25% of the time I hit the ramp. Okay. Yeah. No, if you're confident with doing that. Super confident. Unfortunately, you won't be able to get back to the Witch King until you've gone there and back again. Of course. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. I guess we're doing that. All right. You'd have all of the gifts lit anyway for Valinor, so it's basically never going to come up unless you've already done that. Sure. Yeah. Yep. Thank you, Razor. 25% of the time, you do it. 100% of the time. And bye-bye. I am so sorry. I could have done it. I had a whole day's written news. All right. Not good. All right. So I need Gandalf, which is that over there. I'm also, I've got one letter towards spelling keep. All right. Now we need Legolas. Got it. Now we need Gimli. and finally Boromir and the pops. What's the best way to send in the pops? Is it the Gimli shot? I'm going to miss the ring, so I'm going to go for Modestar and just drop it. I guess that works too. Sure. Sure. I'm going to try that again. Vormir did not give it oh yeah oh wow crap Return of the King is lit yeah but is why you don't hit the start I got a mystery that mystery will sometimes light a multiball gosh darn it I never hit that shot oh War of the Ends yeah this is so perfect this is obviously what I needed right now it's fine I'm not getting to Balinor No, I mean, it's very, very common to have to replay them to all of the multiballs. Yeah. And go to destroy the ring a couple times. Jesus. Jesus, yeah. Yeah. Extra ball is lit. Got him. Nice. Finish that mode. Got to hit the right orbit. Got it. What, it didn't count? Apparently not. Got it. advance to level 5. So we need level 8, right? Yeah, we need one super on level 8. So really level 7 plus 1. There's your anvil. And it looks like you yeah, you successfully completed your jackpot in sequence on one of those prior levels because normally you have a single as your lowest. Right, and you go 2x as your lowest. Gosh, darn it, give me that. Alright, so we just need Boromir, we got Boromir. No, we didn't. You made very good progress through that level. Okay. You're more than halfway there, and it's nothing different to the rest of the way. Oh, crap. No, this is fine. I'm in fellowship, right? Yeah, you need this one too. Okay. Why is it... I don't know why. That was a little bit more hardcore, I feel like. Hardcore? I don't know. It was a real interesting intro. So it's nice to know that you can play the multiball. You can replay multi-balls while you have Destroy the Ring to win. Did you notice that? No, I did not. Yeah, because you just completed your third multiball, but then you re-entered a multiball. Oh, yes, I did see what you were talking about. Yeah. Gosh darn it. You have two extra scoring for the next minute if you want to go for Destroy the Ring. Destroy the Ring, big points here. The mushrooms are kicking in for George. There's one. Two. Three. Up and around. Four. Five. Help me. Didn't get anything on that. I am really surprised. All right. So there's one. Golem had the ring. on the fly. Can we hit it? Can we hit it? Yeah, that game freaks out. The game freaks out a little bit. And they gave you another gift. Or it lit another gift, I should say. 107. You have done very well Bellinor awaits But there is more yet to do 2x scoring on that too That was great, 90 million Alright, so lock is lit We need to get back into two towers I don't know what we're at there We're still at 2x scoring Yeah, I mean If you're going for points You might as well Go two towers Definitely not going for scoring, obviously. Oh, no. Oh, I can start the other multiball while I'm in this. Yeah, yeah. Gollum, you can even start a mode while you're in this. Oh, wow. You can do anything. You can do anything. I can make progress towards the other multiballs? I believe so. All right, so now we're in... Your favorite one. This is the... Whatever this is called. Yeah, the one where you just... You need to hold on to the ball and do as many jackpots as you can. With as many both in play as you possibly can. One. All right, so that's two acts. Yes. Have you gotten your add-a-ball yet? No. All right, and the add-a-ball is on what? Palantir? It is on the Palantir target, but you can alight that by hitting the left orbit and getting it in. All right, well, you breached the wall. I don't know the names of the phases, but you've successfully completed a stage. All right, I spelled key, but I have to shoot again. I'm sorry. No, no. So let's talk about this game. That's what you want. It's near impossible to get there. without using extra balls. That's crap game. 104, though, does that put you on the board? I don't know, maybe. With Escher's time? He would score 1.3 or 1.30. Okay, well, you've got a whole other ball. I do have a whole other ball. Let's do this. At least one more ball. It depends on how many other extra balls he can line. All right. Oh, I missed the timing on the – I missed all of it, so it doesn't matter. All right. What am I doing? That's a great question. Let's go for the ants. Got it. Making progress towards Return of the King. And two towers. And two towers. Because why not? Oh, because it feeds it back down. Yeah. Yep, yep. Okay. Makes sense. This is usually the mode you want to start with if you're going after Valinor. Okay. It's not terrible if you're running out of time. It's arguably the easiest mode to complete. It's only six shots to complete it, whereas Gandalf versus Saruman is seven at least. See if I can hit the tower quick. Oh, not quick enough. So what blows my mind is that this game hasn't been done again. Right. Like this layout, but also like what about this game is so enjoyable? I couldn't tell you. Is it just the layout? No, it's TNK. I don't. George famously does not care about score. He cares about balance. Okay. But based off of what I've seen other people type in the chat, what's great about this game is that team integration is on point. Oh, there's no question. But I like shooting it. Like, I want this layout in a different game or maybe just a current remake. Shoot flashing shots to get away. Well, people have been clamoring for this game to be remade for a while. Sure. But I feel like this might be an expensive license. God, that was crap. Matt asking, what are the three preferred modes easiest to complete? That's a great question. I have the easiest. You have it. Okay. Yeah. Three modes to complete would be worthy for sure. Oh, check out. Sorry. to interrupt. A higher peanut is saying, by getting into Golem multiball, you can use it to block Destroy the Ring and start modes instead. Yeah, I think I did hear about that. Okay, yeah. Yeah, you can totally do that. But the, if you're going for modes, so you need seven Gifts of the Elves to get to Valinor. You're going to get three of those seven just by getting your Super Jackpots on each of the three multi-balls. so you need four other ones. You can get another one by completing Destroy the Ring, which you're likely to get to, because you're probably going to have to go through Destroy the Ring twice, at least, to get to Valinor. So the other three would be from modes. Easiest one would be War of the Ents. Next easiest one, I would say, and these are all my opinion, um most of these are 30 second modes so i like to avoid two of them are not though and the two that aren't would be attack of the shalob uh that one's not you get a little bit longer than 30 seconds there's not a specific timer a spider is approaching frodo and it's uh what i like to call a lights out mode. Okay. So it's going to start with the three shots on the left side of the play field. So you either need to hit Pippin or Legolas or Gandalf. Got it. And then once you hit one of those, it'll switch over to Gimli, Aragorn, Merry. Got it. Once you hit one of those, it'll switch back to the left side minus the shot you made the first time. Okay. And then it'll switch back to the right minus the shot you made the first time. Until eventually you just have one jackpot. It's a lights out mode. Got it. Okay. Yeah. So as long as you can make one of those shots before the spider reaches Frodo, then you're safe. It's longer than 30 seconds. The other one is straight up a hurry up mode. And that is, I did all acronyms in my notes here. That one's escape the ring race. So that one you need. The right ramp is always lit to add an extra 200,000 points. Once your score, I forget what it starts at, but you can always add time by hitting the right ramp on that mug. The shot that you really need to hit is, first you need to hit the Gimli saucer, then the inner orbit, the Gandalf shot, the left ramp, which is Pippin, and then you finish at the right ramp. Okay. But in between each one of those shots, if you've been bricking a lot, you can always hit the right ramp for more time. Okay, that's nice. So those would be the three. There we go. Hopefully that answers that question quite thoroughly. That says, thanks, brand-new Lord of the Rings owner. I appreciate the info. I'll be re-watching this several times. You know that part in every movie where it's like, oh my god, I'm so bored, it's an exposition dump? That is this entire stream, I feel like. Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, watching the extended versions will be shorter than getting to Valinor. What do I want next? So yeah, this game, instead of focusing on the multi-balls... I'm sorry, 84 jackpots. That's ridiculous. Those are singles. Those are singles, George. Yeah, geez. Dude. No balls saved by default? Like I said, trap up with as many balls in play as you can. So, yeah, we're going to go escape the ring race since that's the last one I talked about. Or are we? noise. I think that's the first time I hit the ring from the right flipper. Yeah. That's a really tough job. All right. So while you're playing this, explain the foot can. I don't know if everyone here has seen your stream. What's up with the foot can? I don't know. I just, when I first started streaming at home, I, I think I took a look at, I talked to you a little bit about starting to stream and I wasn't sure about it at first so I didn't want to go all out with the ridiculous qualities of cameras that you have. Okay. Because that's like its own. Okay, cool. I thought it was going to time out. Yes, it did. That's what I'm trying to do, but... Hey! So now I really need to hit that right ramp. Or the left ramp will work, too. Ball and multiball is also lit. Cool. And you just lock the ball towards the cap. Sweet. I forgot what I was talking about, though. Oh, the foot cam. Yeah, so I got a bunch of Sony CX-405s, which is a fantastic camera. We've done some videos, MPT3K and I, doing comparisons between really expensive cameras and then the $100 CX-405. Yeah, and I can't tell you exactly why I decided to get a fourth one. I knew I only needed three, and it's not like I got a deal on the fourth one or anything like that. I was just like, no, I'm just going to have an extra one for whatever reason. Oh, there is a little bit of buffer time, but, yeah, it's over. Whoopsie. Okay, so let's see here. Hyrapina, Lord of the Rings has some of the longest multiballs I've seen. 24 is another. They all have, like, six stages. Destroy the Ring and Fellowship Multiball are fun as at ordering a ring champ. All right. Somebody did something. I just don't know if I go here. Not that one. This one. Let's see here. Gusty Gay. Oh, surreal. I'm guessing it's surreal if you're still on. It's a B. And that's all I know. What are your initials? Actually, if you're not on, I'm just going to go S-U-R. Sir. Boom. Well done, sir. Yes, thank you. That was good. That should have been a point. That should have been a what? A point. Sir. Oh, my God. I missed it. I'm now negative points. All right. So it is 1140. We got time for at least one more. Yeah. Okay. Do you want to go first this time? No, you can kick it off. We can talk more about the modes because we haven't really discussed that. Okay, so we haven't discussed the modes. Do you have to actually beat the modes? Yes. Well, no, no. In order, you have to play there and back again. You just need to complete enough modes to get the appropriate amount of gifts that you need. Okay, got it. You need seven. Yeah. So the hardest mode would be kill the wish gate. So try not to do that one. Yeah, but you sounded confident on it. Either the left ramp or the right orbit, followed by the right ramp. And you have to do that four times to complete it. Okay. All right, so this is a war battle. starts at the left ramp. And now you need six more shots. Five more. Four more. Okay. Or actually, no, five more. I forgot about the sender ring shot as well. Okay. What do we got here? We've got... Oh, no. But once again, you only have 30 seconds to complete it. you can add time with your Palantir if you're getting close to the line. Got it. Okay. That was still pretty awful. Also, I didn't notice it, but we got a follow at some point. Shaylee 76, thank you so much. Actually, I think Shaylee was just here. Oh, nice. So, Shaylee, thank you very much for the follow. So a lot of these modes are much easier to complete with a multiball. Okay. So start a mode and then a multiball. And then do the multiball. Makes sense. Yep. I'm sorry. What was the reason for the foot cam? I, like, walked away for a second. Oh, I don't think I ever finished that story. I think I was planning on using it as, like, a feature cam, like how you use it on the skyscraper for Godzilla. Okay. Yep. And then I was, I don't think I had enough, like, clamps or whatever to set it up. So I was just wondering how I could use it one night and was like, okay, let's just try this foot cam thing. And where do I put it on OBS? Okay, well, it would make sense to put it below my head instead of next to. Wait, I'm going the wrong way. I can smell my seat. Look. Oh. I'm like, what? Also, hey, Jimmy, thank you very much for that follow. Deep cuts here. Yes, yes. I'm like, you can smell your feet. Yeah. But, yeah, I think I was playing World Cup soccer, and then I, in OBS, I put, like, the score in the middle just to break it up because it looks weird. Uh-huh. With both of those. And I famously didn't use borders for the longest time. Mm-hmm. Right? Matt pointing out there are folks who pay extra for that sort of thing. There are. It's onlyfeets.com. I don't know if that's a real website. It probably is, though. It probably is. I'll bet you it's D&D, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. All right, so we're going for the easiest mode, in my opinion. Six shots. There's three ways to hit that shot, and I'm not doing any of them. I've had better. There it is. That's one. It took me six seconds to get one. War code is funny to get early. Finishing it almost like fellowship just from the shops. Nice. All right. That's two. One third of the way there. One third of the way there. Very dangerous. All right. This one's free, or potentially free. Microphone's right in my way. Okay. But her voice is likely on tinny. Hopefully not. What are you trying to time there? The tower skill shot. So it's going to give me progress towards the mode as well. I got it. Nice. That's not enough. Okay, so you need three supers from the three multivols, Which gives you three of the gifts. Correct. That means that you need four. Four others. Four gifts from, is there any way to get a gift not from a mode? Yes. What is it? Oh, no. Oh, no. So you can destroy the ring. Okay. Not going to complete that one. Which we have to do anyways. Yeah! Oh, wait, no. That's the multiball start graphic. I thought I completed it. So it's any mode, any multiball, or any wizard mode. So you have to play... There and back again? Correct. Which is a wizard mode? Yep, a mini wizard mode. Okay, but if you complete, you also get one. Yep. you don't have to complete that in order to get there. As opposed to completing, you do need all three of the multiballs. That's a requirement. Correct. Okay, so you have to destroy the ring, and you have to complete the multiballs. Thus, you are given four gifts that way. You only have to complete three modes afterwards to get the bell. And there are three easy modes, as you pointed out earlier. Yeah. How is that a triple? I have two balls in play. How is that a triple? Okay. Maybe it was... Yeah, it was grace period, it seemed like. Oh, bye-bye. One for the road. The escape the ring rates would be nice if you could nail the right ramp. It adds to the hurry up so you don't time out. Yep. Wrong multiball. Well, easier, not necessary easy. This is ROTK, not towers. Return of the King, yep. So if I want to play this smart, I have my two towers lit. Two towers stacks very well with Gandalf versus Saruman, but I don't have my mode start lit. So you need to hit elf shots. Yep, either elf or I can, if I hit the center shot, it'll spot. You and elf. Yes. Also, if you hit the elf shot or any ring shot and combo another shot, it'll give you additional rings of that particular race. Okay. Or you could brick it. Oh, that's right. They're not all gold. One of the rings is silver, one of them is gold. I was wondering why it wasn't lit, but it is lit. All right, this is great. Awesome start for George here. Do you like the way the game is pitched and set up right now? I don't dislike it, if that helps. Okay. This is something I think about constantly. Just by setting up games in general. Aragorn and Sam. Aragorn is the ramp. Got it. Sam on the fly. Okay. Obviously intentional. Aragorn there. What? Why did I do that? Okay, so we are one shot away from Fellowship, and Fellowship requires not to... Oh, sorry, two towers is a far away. So what combos well, mode-wise, with Fellowship? Most things actually combo well with either Fellowship or Return of the King. Okay. It's really just two towers that you want to stack with Gandalf versus Starmon. arguably I would say don't play Destroy the Witch King because it's hard to combo I don't know maybe it's easier to like you hit one of those two shots and then you backhand the Yeah! The Fellowship of the Great Got a quick one Got a quick one, I'm good with that War of the Ants is arguably better than Stingle Ball, but if you're running out of time, it's a great idea to start a matchup. Which you just did. Yes! Martini and Rossi come as well with Fellowship. You are not wrong. Really? Really? Still got 19. That didn't trigger. Like I was expecting it to. When it hit that. Okay. I guess I got two towers lit. Mozart is always lit at the beginning of the ball. There's no question the way this is pitched right now and it's playing, it is way harder. Yeah. I feel like than any other Lord of the Rings. I don't know the one. Pitbull Jones I've always despised. But maybe that's because I just didn't know the rules before. I didn't hit anything. In my fellowship, by the way. Nothing. That's just pinball, I guess, right? We're at max steepness. We literally have the legs all the way up in the back and all the way down in the front. I like doing that for EMs. Sweet. We got Gandalf versus Saruman, and now I can bring in two towers. No, sorry. I have this confused. Fellowship is great with Gandalf versus Saruman. Oh, because it's the Balrog and then it's... That's obviously why... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because of misinformation. Yeah. But whatever. Everything goes to two towers because everything's split, right? Yeah. Why not? Too slow. Too slow. We're back to singles. Thank you. So higher P but really the safety of multivolume keeping the timer in check makes anything okay Great We can end off with a Starmon Hey, I just completed it. I from Ring Rant, so hey, what's the other since you only hit the ramps one year ago? Oh, I did not complete it. I thought I had, but... Just some more dope graphics. Dope. All right, so I have Fellowship lit, which lights at the right tower. Yep. Okay. Okay. and now I want to play Gandalf versus let's do it but I need to get better in general at bringing a mode into a multiball okay Okay. Got it. You were going for the middle shot just then to spot you a ring. You've already got two, so you just need the one more. And I can also hit this, but this is random. Oh. The spot ring will just give you. Either a dwarf or a man. It usually gives you what you need, and it looks like I have two. You have two else. but I think I feel like the ring shot might be safer than the spot ring target that's my tough shot or we could just start the multiball by itself the movie integration for this is just amazing yeah Yeah. That's everything. Counting. Cool. Counting. Cool. All right. Aragorn, cross. That makes sense. Aragorn would obviously be the kind of person who would go first. This isn't two towers. I should just be playing the multiball instead of hoarding. Right. Or we could do something. Awesome. That sucked. I'm sorry. No, no. I was laughing a lot, but it wasn't because it was funny. I didn't take offense to it. I had a moment like that the other day where Josh, who I had mentioned earlier tonight, who you haven't met. Okay. Super, super fan of Godzilla. Okay. Even before, like, that's his go-to game, but he's a fan of the movies. Okay. So, and he's never played a premium before, apparently. But. I would go back and get a pro if I didn't. You like a pro better? Okay. I like how the pro plays better. Fair enough. Yeah, we were talking about Terror on Mechagodzilla, and he was explaining to me how he got there for the first time the other day. And we were talking while I was playing it, and I had qualified Terror on Mechagodzilla and lit Power Up Level 4 at the same time. Okay. So I immediately went into Terror on Mechagodzilla, and there was – I was explaining – I don't remember what Power Up Level 4 does. It will light your mini-wizard mode, either Monster Zero or Terror on the Night of Godzilla. So, yeah, it's a limited flip mode, if you didn't know. And I was explaining the different phases of it and how you should trap up and just play it very conservatively using as few flips as possible to earn yourself more flips to continue hitting the shot. It's the Sol Ring. in Avengers. Towards the end, I think I was on the final phase or something, and I had two balls over here in a wonky way. And so I lost all of your bliss. You weren't even thinking about it. Yeah, and we had a good laugh about that. It's a stupid move, an unfortunate thing, And you encounter stuff like that in pinball all the time. Player mistakes. Well, yeah, but that's the entertainment I feel you pay for, right? Yeah. When you drop those coins. So, I mean, yeah, it's memorable moments like that that are not part of the code or anything like that. Pinball, my own kind of pinball moment, right? All right, so we are five shots away. Four. Four shots away from a gift. Yes. Yes. Nice. Good done. There it is. There it is. One more. Oh, that ski jump is not fun. All right. Nicely done. And stop. Oh, I didn't realize I already had a danger. Single danger. Good try, sir. Good try. Good try. All right. Lots of things to do. Like, start all over. But I think your approach is right here. I think if you are going to get to Valinor, you're never going to do it unless you get the super jack on each of the three multiballs. So the modes can come and go. Sorry, I thought that was a requirement that you had to get the super jack. Could you do all of the modes and only have to get one of the super jacks? No, you have to do that. You must complete. And you have to destroy the ring. So you only have to worry about completing three modes. Well, so if you don't, like let's say you've completed the three modes and you've completed the three multiballs, giving you six gifts, and then you destroy the ring. That will light your seventh gift, and you will have to replay all three multiballs and destroy the ring to get to Balinor. Why? Because you didn't have seven gifts when you destroyed the ring. Oh, got it. So you need to have seven gifts going into destroying the ring. Yes. Okay. Yeah. But you're likely to have to – it's very likely that you're going to go into the destroy the ring mode more than once. Yes. Okay. Got it. So when you get there the first time, get the gift. Okay. Or focus on the modes. Like, just play the game right. Yeah. Or you can, I'm pretty sure you can get, if I'm really good at Fellowship, I think Fellowship is probably the easiest of the three multiballs. If I'm really good at Fellowship, I'm pretty sure you can get more than one gift from Fellowship. So if I, yeah, if I just start that multiball and finish it, I could potentially get my seven gifts that way. Okay. But that means starting it seven times, which, I mean, I'm on the – I've already played it once, so now I only have Pippin lit, so I have to hit all of them. All of them again. Again, the third time, it's random. Yeah, we think. I was on it the third time. Oh, you were? Okay. Yeah. Felt like too much. Razor, no. It's not pronounced shit. It's not a Jaffical. Okay, this is a good mode to be in. I kind of shot blindly. This is one of the easier ones. So it's going to be the Gimli shot or the right ramp to add time. Or I could start Ring Frenzy. I don't know what that does for my mode. So a smart way to do this with Gollum, I think, would be to always have a ball on my right flipper to backhand the right ramp for extra time. Of course, I didn't do that. Come on. Yeah. Yeah, that was... That was so straight down to that. There was no way. That gam. That is gam, as you said. Y'all, we are past midnight. Thank you, by the way, Paul. Yeah. For not only doing the research to figure out how we get the Valinor, now I know. And I kind of want to play the game a lot now. Yeah, those are the basics. Like, the way, once you, I don't think we really stacked modes with multiballs too much tonight. We were just going single things, trying to figure it out. Yep. Right? Once you, I think once you start doing that, then it'll really start to come together. So, in a perfect world, you would actually complete all three of your multiballs along with three different modes. Sure. Right? You'd get six, complete then a fourth mode or something else. Sorry, what was the other thing that wasn't? Oh, destroying the ring, which you can't do. You would then complete a fourth mode, and then you would start destroy the ring, which is interesting because that's what Higher Peanut was talking about earlier, start Golem multiball if you're at that point because you can't just start destroy the ring while you have Golem, but you can start a mode. Yeah, yeah, that's a good tip too. right so that keeps you from accidentally starting destroy the ring you complete the four so four modes three multiballs hopefully you do three modes and three multiballs all in one go and uh and then good luck with the twenty yeah and then you initiate destroy the ring and then yeah how do you start Valinor uh I'm pretty sure it, as soon as you destroy the ring, it'll automatically start. Okay. Because the game flips out and your balls drain. And then you are in Valinor. And then you're in Valinor. Okay. Hey, Razor, thanks for watching. Hire Peanut, Matt. Have such a great weekend. I'm mountain biking on Saturday. And Sunday I got the kiddos. So I might be back on potentially Friday night and or Sunday. If it's Friday, it might be really late because Manu streams on Friday. So, yeah. So did the math. I'm not in Rome. Yes. Yes, he does. Hey, Manu. Two towers can be the least amount of shots that you can complete two towers is 28. Right. because you could divide it by three if you had four balls. Correct. Okay, so in two towers, 28. Thanks for doing that tough math. Yeah, yeah. 84 divided by three. It's either 21 or 84. Okay. Or anywhere in between. And I love Mondi's intro. My body is chrome! Just like the weirdest reference ever. And I don't remember why it came up, but I said my body is chrome and nobody got it. Which was weird because it was Rick and Morty making a reference to Mad Max. Oh, okay. And Mad Max was the thing being discussed at the time, but nobody knew that Rick and Morty played on that with this dude who fell through. Manu got it. Yeah, well, eventually. Yeah, I mean, I sent Manu the clip so he could watch it. And what was it? That's a deep take. Oh, actually, that may have been Jordan Manu who said it was a very deep take. But in my mind, it was an instantaneous, my body is chrome! And that will forever now be in my news intro. So, awesome. Now, you at some point will start streaming again. Yeah, yeah. You have amazing gear at Pinball Jones. Pinball Jones is now where you work. And Pinball Jones is the coolest pinball location in all of Fort Collins. Yeah, yeah. Without a doubt. There are a few others, though. It's not the only one. Sorry. There are other great pinball locations, but that's the coolest. Yeah. Without a doubt. Because no other places have 30 plus pinball. 38. Yeah. Even Intersect used to have five. I think they're maybe down to two now. Really? Two or three. The beer was subpar to begin with. Those were Hans' games. I know. They were originally there, and I don't know exactly what happened, but I think the owner of the bar started buying their own games. Okay. So, I think they have, like, a Godzilla and a Foo Fighters. Oh, nice. So, just two newer games. Yep. Okay. Cool. But, yeah, anywhere else anymore I can, even the Lyric, which is also Pinball Jones games, I want to say they only have two there. So, there's other locations, but none of them, I mean, it's all... Chippers North, I think, just has two games. Yeah. As well. Really quick, if somebody wanted to check you out on Twitch, where would they go? Bumper Nugget on Twitch. I guess you're going to give me a shout-out, but I'm also just going to type in chat. There we go. Oh, no. Get the clout out of my face! So there you go. Bumper Nugget. Click the name. Click the follow button. You will not be disappointed. Check out Extra Paul on his stream when he gets his stream back up and running. Yeah, I might do a laser load style thing where I just start after close. Oh, okay. Basically, yeah. And just go through the list. So you say laser load, but I mean you're doing a 12-hour stream. No, I guess I could, but I don't know if I... I tried to do that once, and I felt like garbage the next day. I don't know how he does it. I don't know how he does it either. But anymore, that's quite often when I've been tuning up games is after close. Okay. And I'll head home around 6 o'clock in the morning. Okay. So I could very easily shift gears over to that, but I spend so much time there. I'm excited for more of this wonderful camera, sir. I want to see this. Oh, yeah, this one. And I want to see the – don't you normally have special shoes? I do. I do. I didn't realize that these were going to be a star of the show. But I think the – there are a couple fresh games coming in. I won't say new. Matt, follow. Hey, thanks, Matt. Love you, buddy. So the next game that's coming in, it's the other Paul because I'm the extra Paul, right? Mm-hmm. The other tech at Pinball Jones, whose name is also Paul, is currently tuning up Party Monsters. Party Monsters, Elvira? Yeah, so we're going to have the trifecta. Okay, all three. Right in a row, yeah. Okay. The next game that's coming in after that, we have a South Park in the back that's ready to go. Don't worry, we're not setting that one up at Timber Jones. Awesome. But that's money on the table. It makes money. Not having it at a location is money left on the table. Yes, absolutely. So that one's going to go to Chippers North, and we're trading that one out with Turtles. Oh, Aerosmith is at Chippers South. Yeah, yeah. Aiden has a beef with Aerosmith, though, and also doesn't like the game. It's one you don't often get to see, so when I'm over at Chipper's, I focus entirely on Aerosmith. Fair enough. He wants to bring Turtles back, though. Okay. And with the Stern Insider, you can save your, as long as the game's done on tournament mode, you can save your level up progress. Yep, and put up much bigger scores. Yeah, I'm not familiar because I never focused on leveling up the turtles. So during like tournament play or whatever, which is primarily whenever I played it. Otherwise you don't like turtles. I love turtles. You love the franchise. The game is a bit of a struggle. Yeah, the points don't make sense to me. They don't. It feels like if I was – you're a moment maker. I'm a point chaser. Okay. Right? Yeah. And I don't know if it's – it's definitely not on the level of this as far as theme integration is concerned. Wow. Yeah. Well – This is tough to top, though. This is tough to top, but it's not like they have things to pull from, right? Like, they had to generate their own content because they didn't have access to the 1984 cartoon or 1987 cartoon. Sure. They did enough with, like, the Planet X stuff and came up. It is very thematically integrated. There's nothing wrong with it. I feel like it's just not the cartoon. And what's interesting is you can get the cartoon version for TMNT, and I feel like that moment from Jerry Maguire with, like, you complete me, like, that moment with the cartoon version of that game where it completes the game, it makes it so much more cool. Yeah, absolutely. But I think since we have the Stern Insider hooked up on all of the other Spike 2s down there, people are already starting to sign up for Stern Insider because they see our leaderboard on the wall, and they're like, what's this? How do I do that? Yep. So if that will, I don't know. I don't think Turtles was just too brutal. It's brutal. For people to, like, they might drop coin for one game, but after they play that one game, they're done. Yep. Right. It's a struggle. But with the Stern Insider stuff and our $5 free play Mondays. A little different. You can, yeah, you can play it all day and then you can level up your, that's the perfect Well, also the screen with the high scores, I feel like that's going to drive a certain number of people to keep playing games even just like, oh, there's only $45 million on TMNT. Sure, I could beat that. Yeah, as soon as that thing went up. What about JJP Insider? You mean Scorbit? It's not Scorbit anymore They separated from Scorbit Well we only have two JJP games and those are Dialed In and Wonka. I guess we also have Woz but that's set up in the back It's folded up in the back I should say Aiden wants to get He thinks the game's too dark and I can't disagree It is too dark You put a set of these lights on that game Yeah, I'm not sure if you can do the under-the-glass ones, though. Oh, really? These get knocked off really easily. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was assuming it'd be under the glass. Yeah. I know there's a few certain parts. Like, even this game, I don't know if you can switch the camera back, but this might interfere. The ring rates up there might interfere with the way. Yeah, but that's an add-in. Oh, is it? Okay. Yeah. I wasn't sure. But there's enough toys in Wizard of Oz where you might have to adjust things or get other mods for the game. He's a very frugal businessman, and mods are not on his list of things to do. So that might just... The underglassed lights for Galactic Tank Force are awesome, says the end game. Okay. I'm still not a fan of that game. I have really no interest in playing it. Did you, were you at TPF? I can't remember. I wasn't. You weren't, so you didn't get to. Have you spent any time on it? No. No, I have not encountered it. Imagine it's this game right here. It's actually kind of perfect because it has a saucer. Oh, sorry. I'm like right in the camera. Sorry. Imagine it's this. It's basically this right here and this over here, except to imagine there's this giant thing. Only Balrog's like ten times bigger. Yeah, he's bigger and he's right here. And right in your face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then it basically means that you can't play any of the middle of the play field. You can only hit the outside shots. That's unfortunate. That's what it felt like when I was playing it. I still liked the music and I loved everything else about it. I just wasn't a fan of playing it. What's funny is that I started watching other people playing it. Like, Huff Challenge is a perfect example. They played it days in a row, and it really looked to me like Jordan was enjoying the game. But it's all right and left orbits. You are just stuck hitting four shots the entire game. I think there's a total of five shots if you don't include the giant wall in the middle. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, I don't know. I've been talking with the other tech there a lot about how to tweak a few games. I think we're the only location in Colorado that has a big Lebowski. What did we get? Manu's saying PinStadiums are quite crowded in our odds. Okay. So they have them at Three Gold Watch. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, that's good to know. These extremes would work well, but I would be hesitant about putting anything. Yeah, somebody's just going to walk away with them. Well, our games are also set up quite loose. Well, they're not very tilty. Most of them are not super tilty. I wouldn't say that they're loose-loose, but death-saving is not frowned upon at Pinball Jones. No, it's not. Play the game, man. And the tilt-bops are set the way they are. It's weird. I feel like I know the person who sets the tilt-bops in all the games. It's not me. It needs to start to be because we do the earplug method as well. That doesn't stop you from tilting. It just stops you from double tilting or from giving that debounce. Correct. Or double danger. Yeah, and mostly it's used for old EMs. So what we're talking about, if you're not familiar with earplug method, you cut up, you take just a foam earplug, cut that in half, and then you put that at the top of the hook of the rod for the tilt bomb. And it's very effective for old school EM games that are notorious for tilting through to the next player. but it's quite effective for other purposes as well so it's going to dull the sway on the tilt bob but in reaction to that you actually make the tilt bob more sensitive because the way most games are set up the tilt bob is actually bottoming out on the side of the cabinet so it's not getting the full ring anytime you slap it from, I guess it'd be the left side, yeah. The tilt bob is not going to hit the left side of the ring. So that's why we've been doing the... Grabbing your phone? Yep. Yeah, so that's why we put the earplugs in there, not to make the games less sensitive, but to actually kind of make them more sensitive in a way. No, no, I mean, you keep going. Oh, that's the earplug method. So, I don't know. I've been re-leveling a lot of the games just to get them, like, super tuned up and feeling good. Like, Stranger Things was bad for a while. Yes, it was. You could luckily hit it in the mouth of the Demogorgon. That is weird. That game never felt like it was easy to play, but you could hit the Demogorgon in the mouth. Yeah. I actually watched – so I'm blanking on his name. No. No, it's not Ted Lasso. Who does Cincinnati? Oh, Eric. Straight down the middle. No. Chuck Wirt? Chuck Wirt, yeah. Oh, I guess it is straight down the middle, yeah. Yeah, Chuck Wirt put up a great YouTube video for a bunch of tweaks. Yes. For Strangler Kings, and none of them had anything to do with the Demogorgon. It was all other things kind of pushing it into position. Yeah. It's so great. He was such a fan, and he bought the LE. And just, man, he was in very early on the LE and ran across all the issues. I watched him play that game and then watched him hit the left ramp, and it missed the ball lock and then reject going right down the middle. Just so positive about this. It's okay. We're going to tweak that. We're going to figure it out. And he worked with Stern, and at the end, he's like, I think I'm up to about 75% likelihood the telekinesis lock hits it. Oh, yeah, yeah. We have a pro, luckily. It's so funny. in my mind, if I ever got that game straight up disabled telekinesis and to me it's such a cool concept but if it doesn't work, it doesn't work not one have I experienced ever be it an LE or a premium has the telekinesis lock worked consistently enough to justify not turning it off because when it rejects down the left ramp it's straight down the middle oh no, yeah that's bad then Yeah. So do you want to hear my fix for the demogorgon? Because I did my research on pin side. Okay. And found, you know, the drawings to how to remove the demogorgon. And then you, of course, add washers to the bottom to tilt it like left, right, forward, backwards. None of that worked. Okay. So the bottom of the neck of the Demogorgon, the main problem, I have a great Samsung camera on my phone that can get awesome slow-mo footage. Okay. So I was noticing it was hitting the bottom lip of the Demogorgon's mouth. Okay. And the naked eye sees it bounce straight up to the top lip. It's like, oh, it's too. It's hitting the bottom lip. Right, but if you're not doing a slow-mo video of it, you would think that because the ball moves so fast that it's hitting the top lip when it's actually hitting the bottom lip. So the Demogorgon's mouth was too high, right? The way I fixed it is the bottom of the neck of the Demogorgon toy is resting on – it's a very short hex post like this one that's been wiggling. Okay. All night. But it was too tall. So I took that out and then grabbed a couple of nuts of the same size and put those in. Okay. And that dropped the height down enough to where now it's just consistently hitting. Yep. Imagine for a second if you have ever played Stranger Things and you could consistently hit the Gorgon. You can do that at Pimmel Jones? It's mind-blowing to me because every time I played that game and I got close, I beat everything except the Gorgon modes. I could never make it past. I think there's like six of them. I think six. I think you're right, yeah. I don't think I ever made it past the fourth ever, and I beat everything else in that game. Both mini wizard modes, everything, and never made it past the fourth. Yeah, I think I've completed the third one, but I haven't really focused on it because I've been going into tournament mode. Did you know there's an easy path to total isolation? Let me think about that for a second. You mean besides completing the four different modes, I guess? Yes. To get to total isolation, you have to play four modes. Yes. You don't have to necessarily complete them or do anything. You can time them out if you want. but there's an easy way to do that though so if you can picture Stranger Things play field in your head, what are the two toughest shots for you personally to hit? Probably the left orbit Same and for me the scoop to the right of the left ramp So the four mode start shots would be the left orbit the... Oh, sorry. It's not a... Out of that, it wasn't the mode shot. It's the mystery shot. Oh, you had a... I don't like that. Oh, okay. Well, then you wouldn't like this strategy. Okay. So, for me, it's the left orbit and the right ramp. Okay. Those are the two toughest shots. Sure. The left ramp, easy. Yeah. The right ramp, or the right orbit to the pops, it's not really an orbit. I don't actually find it to be all that difficult. No, no, sorry. The right ramp is tough, but I don't know. I don't struggle with that one the same way I do with the left over. Well, if the mystery shot wasn't a problem for you, mystery will spot you progression towards your first two modes. Okay. So what I like to do is depending on what flipper I'm on, because I don't know if most stranger things are like this, but on ours at Pinball Jones it's really hard to post pass. Okay. So I want to avoid my easy shots. If I accidentally hit the right, it's not that big of a deal. So the mystery shot will spot progression towards a mode. Yes. But it will spot the shot that you are closest to a mode for or on. If it's all even-steven and you hit the mystery right out of the gates, priority goes to the left ramp. Okay. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah. If you have already completed that mode and it's even-steven across the board, then it goes to the right ramp. So it's left-right, starting with ramps, and then orbits. Left orbit, then right orbit, I'm assuming? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so depending on what flipper I'm on, I like to hit the left orbit or the right ramp. Okay. Once I have one of each of those, I can just spam the mystery all day. Okay. And now I no longer have to hit my two toughest shots in the game. Okay. That's not bad. That was a very long explanation. I'm so sorry. All right. Well, let's go find someone to raid. Thank you, everyone, once again, so much for hanging out. We'll be back on likely this weekend. I'm actually going to leave everything hooked up on Lord of the Rings. I think I'm ready to give, as silly as it sounds, I'm going to give Valinor an actual try. Now that I understand the rules enough to try and get there. And I am assuming I will learn quite a bit on the way. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Very much. No worries. You want pictures of my – Of your notes? Yeah. I mean, you can find that stuff online, but you're going to have to skip through a lot of stuff. All right. Say goodbye. We are switching over. Bye-bye. Are you familiar with the Pinball Network? If you're not, maybe if you just give me a moment to speak directly to you about what the Pinball Network is and what it could mean to you. The Pinball Network is a collection of content creators across multiple media. That's YouTube, that is podcasting, that is Twitch streams. Okay, I'm talking to you. 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