# Jersey Jack's Guns n Roses Looks Amazing: Part 2

**Source:** Cary Hardy  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2020-10-12  
**Duration:** 13m 5s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LveuVFJ51X0

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## Analysis

Cary Hardy reviews community feedback on Jersey Jack Pinball's Guns N' Roses game, which he hasn't played yet but has received overwhelmingly positive responses about. He discusses the game's innovative design, light show, build quality, and gameplay experience, while noting some concerns from tournament players and addressing JJP's unconventional direct-to-consumer collector's edition sales approach that differed from industry standard distributor-only practices.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Guns N' Roses has 650 individually controlled LEDs and a new board set to control solenoids and magnetic sensors — _Community feedback from David quoted by Cary Hardy_
- [HIGH] The game includes 21 songs from master reels and seven different random Slash guitar solos — _Community feedback quoted by Cary Hardy_
- [HIGH] Jersey Jack sold Guns N' Roses collector's editions directly from their website, conflicting with distributors' sales processes — _Cary Hardy's direct commentary on JJP's sales strategy_
- [HIGH] The game requires soft plunge skill shots to access certain bonuses, which some players find awkward — _Cary Hardy's commentary and community feedback_
- [HIGH] Guns N' Roses features a 27-inch monitor on an articulated bracket that pulls out and swivels for easy access — _Community feedback from David quoted by Cary Hardy_
- [MEDIUM] Tournament players are reportedly not fond of Guns N' Roses due to heavy multiball action — _Cary Hardy's speculation based on gameplay observations_
- [HIGH] The Standard Edition lacks the upper playfield and moving lights present in the LE — _Cary Hardy's direct commentary on edition differences_
- [MEDIUM] One community member reported the record on the game broke after five plays — _Anonymous community feedback quoted by Cary Hardy_
- [MEDIUM] Video cameras pick up the game's light show as more intense than it appears in person — _Cary Hardy's commentary based on his experience with other games_

### Notable Quotes

> "When I played it, it was single-handedly the most awesome experience I have ever had playing pinball. My God, it was like a religious experience."
> — **Robert (community member)**, ~1:35
> _Extreme praise indicating the game delivers a powerful emotional and sensory experience_

> "Feels like a tank compared to every Stern game on the front line today. I'd compare it with CGC as I have their AFM and Monster Bash."
> — **David (community member)**, ~2:30
> _Direct quality comparison suggesting JJP's build quality surpasses current Stern offerings_

> "I believe this design sets the bar incredibly high for any manufacturer building pinball. 20 years from now, it will be looked at as the first one to break the ground and pave the way for these types of designs moving forward."
> — **David (community member)**, ~3:15
> _Prediction that Guns N' Roses represents a watershed moment in pinball innovation_

> "I'm going to say it guys this game looks like it is a major hit for jjp they needed it i'm glad it is"
> — **Cary Hardy**, ~4:45
> _Industry observer assessment that the game is commercially successful and strategically important for JJP_

> "It doesn't look like a tournament game to me. It looks like it's one of those games that they want to give you an experience."
> — **Cary Hardy**, ~7:00
> _Clarifies the game's design philosophy as experience-focused rather than competitive-focused_

> "Not this time when it comes to JJP, they didn't know how many collector's editions they would be getting... JJP is selling directly from their website... So that hurt a lot of people"
> — **Cary Hardy**, ~9:30
> _Highlights JJP's departure from industry norms causing distributor and customer frustration_

> "I honestly was sometimes when games are like that i purposefully just don't care that much about the point system for the skill shop"
> — **Cary Hardy**, ~6:30
> _Personal gameplay preference against soft plunge mechanics_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Jersey Jack Pinball | company | Manufacturer of Guns N' Roses pinball machine; discussed for sales strategy and build quality |
| Guns N' Roses | game | Jersey Jack Pinball's rock band-themed game being reviewed; features 27-inch monitor, 650 LEDs, multiball action |
| Cary Hardy | person | Video creator and pinball industry commentator providing community feedback analysis; hasn't played the game yet |
| David | person | Community member who provided detailed technical feedback on Guns N' Roses build quality and features |
| Robert | person | Community member reporting an extremely positive emotional experience playing Guns N' Roses |
| Swords of Fury | game | Classic pinball machine Cary Hardy is restoring; recently completed smoke test after over a year of work |
| Stern Pinball | company | Competing manufacturer; comparison point for build quality and sales distribution practices |
| Chicago Gaming Company | company | Manufacturer referenced for build quality comparison (AFM and Monster Bash games) |
| Side Arcade | company | Dallas-area arcade location Cary Hardy contacted to play Guns N' Roses |
| The Straightdown the Middle | company | YouTube channel where Cary Hardy's Swords of Fury restoration series is posted |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Guns N' Roses game reception and community feedback, Jersey Jack Pinball's sales and distribution strategy, Pinball game build quality and innovation, Limited Edition vs Standard Edition feature differentiation
- **Secondary:** Tournament viability and competitive meta, Soft plunge skill shot mechanics debate, Cary Hardy's Swords of Fury restoration project, Video representation vs in-person appearance of lighting effects

### Sentiment

**Positive** (0.82) — Overwhelmingly positive community feedback about Guns N' Roses' experience, build quality, and innovation, with minor criticisms about skill shots and tournament suitability. Frustration with JJP's unconventional sales practices, but this is directed at business processes rather than the product itself.

### Signals

- **[business_signal]** Jersey Jack's direct-to-consumer sales model for collector's editions deviated from industry standard distributor-exclusive approach, causing frustration among distributors and collectors (confidence: high) — Cary Hardy: 'JJP is selling directly from their website... So that hurt a lot of people because that's just something that they're not accustomed to'
- **[competitive_signal]** Tournament players reportedly not receptive to Guns N' Roses due to heavy multiball action and extended song-based gameplay structure (confidence: medium) — Cary Hardy: 'It doesn't look like a tournament game to me. It looks like it's one of those games that they want to give you an experience'
- **[design_philosophy]** Soft plunge skill shot requirement perceived as awkward and inconsistent with rock band game theme expectations (confidence: medium) — Cary Hardy: 'for a rock band game I feel like you should just be plunging in and just diving right'
- **[design_innovation]** Guns N' Roses features unprecedented technical implementation including 650 individually controlled LEDs, articulated 27-inch monitor, new board set for solenoid/sensor control (confidence: high) — David's feedback detailing LED count, monitor bracket design, and control systems
- **[market_signal]** Guns N' Roses positioned as an experience-driven, casual/location-play game rather than tournament-focused competitive title (confidence: high) — Game designed around 3+ minute song experiences for continuous player engagement
- **[market_signal]** Guns N' Roses appears to be a major commercial success for Jersey Jack Pinball, addressing their need for a hit title (confidence: high) — Cary Hardy: 'this game looks like it is a major hit for jjp they needed it'
- **[product_concern]** One anonymous player reported record breaking after five plays, suggesting potential durability issue (confidence: low) — Anonymous feedback: 'the record broke after five plays'
- **[product_concern]** Community feedback indicates Guns N' Roses exhibits superior build quality compared to current Stern offerings, described as feeling 'like a tank' (confidence: high) — David's feedback: 'Feels like a tank compared to every Stern game on the front line today'

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## Transcript

 Cut. No. Stop. I've had it up to here with that damn song lately. Everyone that's posting up podcasts, videos, or whatever is implementing that damn song into their intro, outro, or whatever, and I'm tired of it. Honestly, I'm tired of it right now. That's much better. What's up, guys? Welcome back to my channel where I talk and do everything pinball so if that sounds interesting to you then hit that subscribe button down below this is going to be a quick video because i've honestly got to finish getting this put together upload it and then i've got to get finished getting packed because i'm going on a little mini vacay with the wife and i don't want her grubbing at me for messing around with this stuff for you eagle eye people out there you may notice that i no longer have the swords of fury playfield on the platform That's right. After over a year, the play field is back in the cabinet. I actually performed the smoke test last night. I had a little bit of a hiccup on one point. But that's been resolved since then. I've probably got about two, maybe three episodes left of Saving Swords of Fury for the Straight Down the Middle channel. So if you want to see the complete finished product and what it's come from to what it is now, by all means, check those videos out. But anyways, on to Guns N' Roses. Now, a lot of you out there have already been able to play this game, whether you are a distributor or you have locations that have already purchased the LE and got to experience it. And trust me, I've gotten plenty of you guys out there, whether it be sending me pictures, video, comments, or whatever. y'all have all told me about this game and wanting to get my opinions on it and i don't have any good opinions yet because i can't play it i honestly yesterday called the side arcade down in dallas to see if they had the avengers and guns and roses on their location yet and they don't have it in the dallas area yet evidently they've got them in austin and i'm not driving all the way down to Boston to play those games. So as of right now, I don't have anybody or anywhere that has the game for me to go experience it and give you my feedback from actually playing it. So instead, what I'm going to do is read off some of the comments and messages that I have received from people, and we can see what everybody thinks about that. So let's go through some of these. This is one from now. He doesn't say whether or not he wants to remain anonymous, so I'm going to say your name, Robert. Robert, I went to an arcade yesterday that just opened back up. They had this pinball, and I will tell you this. When I played it, it was single-handedly the most awesome experience I have ever had playing pinball. My God, it was like a religious experience. It was the most beautiful pinball machine I had ever seen. And on top of that, playing Guns N' Roses music while I played my three or four games. I literally felt like crying. Even 30 minutes after on the drive home, I still felt like crying. I was like whoa that some high praise to a machine right there All right this one is from David It says it built really well Sound is great Plays nice once you get the coil strength dialed in I had to make a few adjustments. I played it for about three hours today, along with several others, but mostly this title. I am a Guns N' Roses fan, so it's easy for me to decide I'm in already. But I'm looking forward to having it here at home. Feels like a tank compared to every Stern game on the front line today. I'd compare it with CGC as I have their AFM and Monster Bash. Here, and they also have great build quality. Bottom line is, I have already heard you say that this is the game, I have already heard you say this, but this game is so innovative and fun to play that even if you are not a GNR fan, you'll still enjoy playing it. if you don't perform you'll get booed off the stage and your ball ends it's very well thought out 21 songs taken from the master reels but also seven different random slash guitar solos if you can complete the 2000 spinner revolutions the light shows during the songs are stunning no one else can compare to the light show this game has i think it has 650 individually controlled LEDs, computer in the head, new board set to control solenoids and magnetic sensors. I believe this design sets the bar incredibly high for any manufacturer building the pinball. 20 years from now, it will be looked at as the first one to break the ground and pave the way for these types of designs moving forward. I am very excited to have spent some hands in with it today. Some of the wording on this is bad, sorry. but he's basically excited to have spent some hands with it today the 27 inch minister i'm going to assume that okay the 27 inch monitor is on a articulated bracket and pulls out and swivels so it's easy to access the computer again very well thought out so thank you david for that message on that very detailed um so basically this thing is built like a tank very solid that is good to here all right so this guy wants to remain anonymous so he shall be he or she anyways okay it doesn't play as smooth as i thought and the flippers are weak also the record broke after five plays i'm trusting you on this first review to not say my name i'm not saying your name tomorrow i'm going to play it for a while and hopefully have better option tomorrow okay let's see what else he has here because he sent me some more messages on the gameplay i'm not impressed but everything else in the game is amazing and i'm going through these messages and it's a lot of the same thing uh not too much differences or different wording uh i'm gonna say it guys this game looks like it is a major hit for jjp they needed it i'm glad it is uh the reviews and and feedback from everybody so far. There's a lot of people saying something to do with the live show, that it's too intense, it's too much. And a lot of those people that are complaining about that are going by video alone And I can tell you right now especially whenever I talking about PinStadiums and doing videos for them it always oh it too bright it too much But I'm telling you, it looks better in person. So I'm going to assume the same thing for Guns N' Roses. It may look like a lot and it's really intense and bright, but I'm going to assume that it's better in person. That the video is just way too sensitive. of it's picking up and it's just making it seem more intense than it actually is but other than that from what i've seen so far the game the light show looks amazing the gameplay the gameplay looks very fun there's one thing that um i gotta say i don't care for and i've never cared for this when it comes to games like any game i don't like skill shots that require you to do a soft plunge just to get it just right, to plunge up just enough. I don't know. Whenever I play pinball, I want to just either hit a button to launch that ball into action or just plunge and get it into play so I can start jamming. And for it to just have to get a super skill shot or a skill shot by easing it out and hitting it barely into the game just seems kind of weird, especially for a rock band game. I don't know. You feel like you should just be plunging in and just diving right. I don't know. that is my only small little gripe as of yet i noticed that that you had to like just onto the play field i don't know that that was my point where i was like really and i i honestly was sometimes when games are like that i purposefully just don't care that much about the point system for the skill shop like oh you'll get an extra 10 000 points if you soft lunge i'm like i don't care i'd rather just plunge it get it out on the play field and have some fun That's just me, though, to each their own. It also seems that for you tournament players out there, you're not too fond of what you're seeing, and that comes to, I'm guessing there's a lot of multiball action in this game, and just the way the system works, I'm guessing that's just not something that a lot of tournament players are going to be fond of. It doesn't look like a tournament game to me. It looks like it's one of those games that they want to give you an experience. I mean, not a story so much, but, you know, something to keep you entertained for a good while. Because the objective of this game is to obviously play through an entire song during your concert and stuff like that. And songs are typically at least three minutes and above. So there you go. They want you to have an experience, whereas a lot of other pinball machines, especially when it comes to locations, they want your entire experience to be three minutes because they want to move on to the next person, put the next dollar bill into that game so that changes things up now when it comes to people going after the se i wouldn't do it me personally i mean you're gonna get a guns and roses experience but i feel like this is one of those games that you're missing out on a whole bunch if you settle i'm gonna use the word settle people say like oh it's not settling yes you are settling if you just get the SC in my opinion because you're not getting the upper plate field and just so much more into that game the the moving lights and all that stuff is not in the special edition or the standard edition I sorry you missing a whole lot of things that go into that game with the standard edition and i not too fond of the art style for the standard edition either i would be as of right now before playing it perfectly content with an le and that's another thing also this most recently happened is that a lot of people that were assuming that they were going to be getting a collector's edition are not because they did not roll it out the same way Stern did. Whenever Stern releases a new title, they say, hey, you distributors, you're going to get 10 of them, LEs, you're going to get 20, you're going to get five, whatever. The distributors know how many of the LEs or CEs that they're going to be getting for them to sell to their customers. Not this time when it comes to JJP, they didn't know how many collector's editions they would be getting. So a lot of them were just taking down names like, all right, you're next in line. I don't know how many I'm going to get, But meanwhile, while distributors are taking down names and making their list for their collector's edition, JJP is selling directly from their website to people that are putting in their deposits or making their payments on their collector's editions. So that hurt a lot of people because that's just something that they're not accustomed to. Starter doesn't sell directly. It's strictly through distributors. That's how it's always been, and that's what I think a lot of people were assuming was going to be the same way. instead of buying directly from jjp people went to their distributors because that's how you buy your games but it turns out that wasn't the best way to go for this title which burned a lot of people now whenever you're going with the le you are definitely going to have a lot of little things especially the thing that we haven't even seen yet like the coma ball save or something like that where it's another mech underneath the apron that supposedly saves a ball does something with it we don't know yet i don't know yet at least so we haven't even seen that yet for the collector's edition but all the other stuff is kind of like you know whether it be the powder coating and the extra leds and stuff like that it's not a major thing that you're going to be missing now you're going to be missing a lot on the standard but the le you're still going to believe i believe you're still going to get a great guns and roses experience i'm hoping to have an experience with this title myself in the near future but as of right now there's not one near me for those of you out there in the dallas fort worth area feel free to hit me up so i may have a chance at playing this game and with that being said i think i've already recorded long enough for this video like i said i wanted it to be a short one just to get it out to you guys i'm going to take a couple of days off and then i'm going to get back to it so with that being said thanks for watching guys if you like what you're seeing give me the thumbs up and if you haven't already hit that subscribe button down below that way you can be notified whenever i upload something for your viewing pleasure so until next time peace out

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