# FNO Pinball Ep 14: Monster Bash Remake Limited Edition Pinball Machine **Source:** Flip n Out Pinball **Type:** video **Published:** 2019-08-13 **Duration:** 197m 55s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct5tNhxY4Jg --- ## Analysis Ken Cromwell, Steve Beatty, and Bill Webb stream Monster Bash Limited Edition from Chicago Gaming Company on Flippin' Out Pinball's network. The hosts discuss the game's exceptional light show, gameplay mechanics (Frankenstein multiball stacking, spinner modes), and compare it favorably to remakes of classic pinball games like Attack from Mars. They engage with chat through PinQuest challenges worth bits and discuss upcoming Expo attendance, community figures like Joe Fox and Mark Silk, and tangentially reference Ghostbusters code updates at Stern. ### Key Claims - [MEDIUM] Monster Bash LE has one of the best light shows in any pinball machine — _Ken Cromwell's personal assessment based on short playtime; intentionally reduced stream brightness to preserve light show visibility_ - [MEDIUM] Chicago Gaming Company's remakes (Monster Bash, Attack from Mars) play and shoot as well as originals — _Ken states remakes are 'brand new' with snappy mechanics; compares favorably to originals in functionality_ - [MEDIUM] Keith Allen won Pinberg for the fifth time (unspecified year) — _Mentioned in chat discussion as 'Keith Allen takes his fifth' at Pinberg; comparison to Ted Williams/Jordan made_ - [MEDIUM] Monster Bash LE factory settings ship without ball save enabled — _Bill Webb clarifies that factory defaults are 'without a ball setting' after checking during stream setup_ - [MEDIUM] Ghostbusters code update is being worked on by 'an assembled team of top men' under Dwight Sullivan's lead — _Ken references active code fix work; hosts defend Dwight's recent Game of Thrones update work_ - [MEDIUM] Mark Silk (professional voiceover artist) has Monster Bash LE on order heading to Europe — _Ken acknowledges Mark Silk in chat; mentions his LE order is 'on a boat' to Europe_ - [HIGH] Chicago Gaming Company treats streaming partnerships as mutually beneficial for manufacturers, distributors, and pinball community — _Ken explicitly praises Ryan White and CTC for understanding value of machine streaming; frames as general industry insight_ - [MEDIUM] Twin Peaks restaurant/establishment near Expo is now closed — _Chat discussion notes Twin Peaks closure as significant loss for Expo attendees_ ### Notable Quotes > "This game is currently available and you can buy one from Zach at Flippin' Out Pinball" > — **Ken Cromwell**, ~0:02:00 > _Commercial announcement and endorsement of distributor; establishes product availability context_ > "I think the goal here is going to be to try to stack the start of your modes with the Frankenstein multiball" > — **Steve Beatty (unnamed expert guest)**, ~0:10:00 > _Core gameplay strategy for Monster Bash; indicates rule depth and mode stacking mechanics_ > "It's always nice to be able to talk and have a conversation with a pinball manufacturer that understands that having their machine being streamed is beneficial not only for the machine and not only for the distributor who's offering the machine, but just for pinball in general" > — **Ken Cromwell**, ~0:14:00 > _Statement of manufacturer-streamer relationship dynamics; frames streaming as industry standard practice_ > "Distributor is such an important thing to have in pinball if you're buying new and boxed and even to an extent like used stuff. Because if you don't have that relationship with your distributor, communication can get whacked." > — **Ken Cromwell**, ~0:17:00 > _Commentary on distributor importance in pinball market; addresses relationship-dependent communication quality_ > "I think there's so many variables in a pinball machine that you're playing, and then to go through 1,000 people... It's just, I don't know. I don't understand how it works. It's amazing." > — **Ken Cromwell**, ~0:22:00 > _Commentary on competitive pinball difficulty and Keith Allen's repeated Pinberg victories; frames as exceptional achievement_ > "Monster Bash LE is their show game, and it's been making the rounds at shows... When I say HUL, like HUL condition. It does. There's not any battle wounds on it." > — **Bill Webb**, ~0:12:00 > _Assessment of Chicago Gaming's loaner machine condition; uses industry jargon (HUL = mint/pristine condition)_ > "The code is being fixed. I'm going to eat a bucket of chicken... There's an assembled team of top men that are taking down that Ghostbusters code under Dwight's lead." > — **Ken Cromwell**, ~0:47:00 > _Defense of Dwight Sullivan and confirmation of active Ghostbusters code update work; characterizes as team effort_ > "Everybody needs to lay off Dwight, in my opinion. The guy just rocked it out on a Ghostbusters or a Game of Thrones update. Dude, he's game-changing." > — **Ken Cromwell**, ~0:47:00 > _Direct defense of Stern programmer against perceived criticism; emphasizes code quality and design impact_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | Ken Cromwell | person | Host of Flippin' Out Pinball streaming network; former Jersey Jack Pinball PR/marketing, now co-host/co-owner of Flippin' Out Pinball podcast and distributor | | Steve Beatty | person | Guest in studio during Monster Bash LE stream; provides gameplay strategy and expert commentary on game mechanics | | Bill Webb | person | Co-host/guest in studio; recently acquired Munsters Pro; provides comparative commentary on remakes vs originals | | Chicago Gaming Company | company | Manufacturer lending Monster Bash LE for streaming; represented by Ryan White; known for game remakes (Monster Bash, Attack from Mars) | | Monster Bash LE | product | Chicago Gaming Company remake of classic Monster Bash; features RGB lighting, new modes, new artwork; praised for light show quality; available for purchase through Flippin' Out Pinball | | Attack from Mars | product | Chicago Gaming Company remake; compared favorably to Monster Bash LE by hosts; Bill Webb notes potential lag on remake vs original | | Flippin' Out Pinball | company | Pinball distributor and streaming network owned by Zach and Nicole Manny; hosts Monster Bash LE stream; distributes machines including Star Wars, Willy Wonka, Deadpool | | Zach Manny | person | Owner of Flippin' Out Pinball distributor and streaming network; mentioned throughout as distributor contact and stream co-owner | | Pinberg | event | Major pinball competition/tournament; Keith Allen won fifth consecutive title; discussed as significant travel destination from Midwest (6-11 hour drive depending on location) | | Keith Allen | person | Top competitive pinball player; won Pinberg fifth time; compared to Ted Williams and Michael Jordan; discussed as exceptional competitive achievement | | Mark Silk | person | Renowned professional voiceover artist; has Monster Bash LE on order heading to Europe; active in pinball community chat during stream | | Dwight Sullivan | person | Stern Pinball code programmer/designer; recently completed Ghostbusters and Game of Thrones updates; defended by Ken for code quality and team effort | | Joe Fox | person | Pinball community member; attended Pinberg; discussed as 'one of the best people in pinball'; questioned about Expo attendance (likely not attending) | | Ryan White | person | Chicago Gaming Company representative; reached out to Flippin' Out Pinball to arrange Monster Bash LE streaming; supports streaming partnerships | | Ghostbusters (Stern) | product | Stern pinball machine with pending code update; update referenced as 'game-changer' involving team effort led by Dwight Sullivan; pending co-drop anticipated to trend game upward | | PinQuest | company/service | Donation/reward system integrated into Flippin' Out stream; provides weekly challenges worth 500 bits each; typically offers 2,500-bit donations to cover potential challenge rewards | | Expo | event | Major pinball industry event; discussed regarding potential attendees (Ken, Dennis, Joe Fox, Mark Silk); timing relevant to new parent considerations | | Texas Pinball Festival (TPF) | event | Significant pinball community gathering; hosts reference prior attendance; Ken considers returning in March but new baby (5-6 months old) creates timing challenges | | Dennis | person | Eclectic Gamers Podcast co-host; mentioned as attending This Week in Pinball; uncertainty about Expo attendance | | Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer; Game of Thrones and Ghostbusters code updates referenced; production quality and code development discussed | ### Topics - **Primary:** Monster Bash LE remake features and gameplay, Chicago Gaming Company manufacturing and distribution strategy, Streaming partnerships between manufacturers and content creators - **Secondary:** Competitive pinball tournament results (Pinberg), Stern Pinball code updates and programmer recognition, Pinball distributor relationships and customer service - **Mentioned:** Pinball community events and conventions (Expo, TPF) ### Sentiment **Positive** (0.78) — Hosts express enthusiasm for Monster Bash LE's design and light show quality. Chicago Gaming Company praised for collaborative streaming approach. Some frustration from Ken regarding earlier podcast topic and pinball performance anxiety, but overall tone is celebratory and community-focused. Ghostbusters code updates and Dwight Sullivan defended positively. Stream chat donations indicate positive community engagement. ### Signals - **[business_signal]** Distributor relationship quality emphasized as critical to pinball customer experience; communication and service consistency dependent on retailer-manufacturer partnership (confidence: medium) — Ken discusses distributor importance: 'if you don't have that relationship with your distributor, communication can get whacked. But if you have somebody that you're solid with... that's kind of my thing' - **[community_signal]** Flippin' Out Pinball utilizing PinQuest donation/challenge system to drive stream engagement and community participation; bits/donation conversion model supporting streaming infrastructure (confidence: high) — PinQuest challenges worth 500 bits integrated throughout stream; Ken references upgrading stream quality through bit donations and community support - **[event_signal]** Monster Bash LE loaner from Chicago Gaming Company demonstrates manufacturer willingness to support streaming platforms as marketing tool; reflects industry recognition of streaming value (confidence: high) — Ken explicitly thanks Ryan White for understanding 'having their machine being streamed is beneficial not only for the machine and not only for the distributor who's offering the machine, but just for pinball in general' - **[sentiment_shift]** Defensive rallying around Dwight Sullivan and Stern code quality after apparent criticism; community pushback against negative sentiment toward programmer (confidence: medium) — Ken states 'Everybody needs to lay off Dwight' and characterizes Game of Thrones and Ghostbusters code as 'game-changing'; frames criticism as unfair to team effort - **[design_philosophy]** Chicago Gaming's Monster Bash LE light show design prioritized as key differentiator; Ken intentionally reduced stream brightness to showcase lighting rather than gameplay clarity (confidence: medium) — Ken explicitly states 'I didn't want to over-illuminate it because... it has one of the best light shows' and intentionally set stream at 'halfway' brightness to preserve light show visibility - **[event_signal]** Pinberg tournament and Keith Allen's fifth consecutive win discussed as major competitive achievement; tournament positioning as significant travel destination for Midwest pinball players (confidence: high) — Multiple chat references to Pinberg distance (6-11 hours depending on starting point); Keith Allen's fifth victory compared to Ted Williams/Michael Jordan-level achievement - **[market_signal]** Monster Bash LE available for purchase and distribution through Flippin' Out Pinball; implicit signal that inventory is available and production continuing (confidence: high) — Ken states game 'is currently available and you can buy one from Zach at Flippin' Out Pinball' and notes different tier availability - **[community_signal]** Ken requires multiple games to warm up mechanically before competitive-level play; acknowledges disparity between stream performance and actual skill level (confidence: medium) — Ken states 'it takes me a few games to get warmed up' and notes this would make him 'horrible in competition pinball' where single-game performance counts - **[community_signal]** Ken Cromwell transitioned from Jersey Jack Pinball PR/marketing role to co-host/co-owner of Flippin' Out Pinball streaming network and distributor (confidence: high) — Ken's current role hosting Flippin' Out streams and his reference to distributor relationships suggests established career shift from manufacturer to media/distribution - **[product_strategy]** Chicago Gaming remakes (Monster Bash, Attack from Mars) positioned as modern alternatives to original machines with comparable or superior playability; addresses collector vs. casual player tension (confidence: medium) — Ken notes remakes 'play and shoot just as well' to him and are 'brand new' with 'snappy' mechanics; acknowledges purists prefer originals but frames remakes as practical alternative to $10-15k vintage machines --- ## Transcript you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you Hey, what's going on Pinball Land? Welcome to the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. My name is Ken Cromwell. We're going to order We have a choreographed this Steve Beatty's here in Studio A today And Bill Webb And Bill Webb tonight We wanted to thank Chicago Gaming Company For lending us their Monster Bash LE Ryan White We had him on the phone last week And he's like, you know what? It'd be great if you guys were able to stream it So we're going to stream that tonight We're in kind of a transition right now Between new games And this game is currently available And you can buy one from Zach at Flip N Out Pinball His information's there on the screen phone number and an email address, and there are different levels that can be purchased. But have any of you guys had any real time on a Monster Bash lately? No. No. Negative. Not at all. Nor have I. This is a treat. Nor have I. So this is what we kind of did. Now, this game, I didn't want to over-illuminate it because, in my opinion, from the short time that I have on this LE, has one of the best light shows in any pinball machine that I've ever played. And I think it's important instead of kind of oversaturating and washing that light show out, I kind of went halfway. So if the stream isn't as bright as it normally is, it's literally intentional. And if need be, I can turn on some of the lighting here. So before we get down to business, if we can do a quick audio check. Thank you, everybody that's in chat. If we're coming in too hot, let us know. And if we're coming in slow, let us know so we don't go. Audio sounds good. That's perfect. Now, before we start off the evening, I want to go ahead and let's figure out what the PinQuest challenges of the week are, brought to you by PinQuest.com. So for those of you that aren't familiar with PinQuest, they give us these quests every single week, and the pin quests are each worth 500 bits. Now, the first 500 bits would be to start Frankenstein Multiball. Secondly, we score 50 million points for 500 bits, score 100 million points for 500 bits, start Mosh Pit Multiball, which is going to be ripping that spinner over and over and over, that's 500 bits, and starting Monster Bash 500 bits. So potentially out there, as pin quest always does, they start us off with their 2,500 bits donation. We've got the potential to rack up another 2,500 bits. Very lucrative, very fun, and it keeps us motivated for sure. So I'm looking forward to do this. So why don't we do this? Let's start a three-player game. All right. I wanted to apologize tonight for a couple quick things, guys. And that is, first, the plan tonight was to have Dr. John, John Costin, in the studio tonight with his daughter, Emily. There were a couple things that had happened. We had another guest that was supposed to come in that wasn't able to do it last minute. And then the stream tonight was actually up in the air because of some personal things I had going on with work. So I didn't want him to commit and bring Emily out. As it turns out, we're able to stream, and I feel bad that we missed him tonight. But, Dr. John, if you're watching, and Emily, my apologies. And I hope to connect with you guys in the next day or two. Also, Emily, congratulations on your performance in Pinburgh. Very impressive. Yes. And with you guys being here, we'd like to try to connect. So let's go ahead and let's start a three-player game and see what we can do. Again, what we can do with some of these PinQuest challenges tonight. All right, so, Chad, us three, we don't have a lot of experience with Monster Bash here. So if you wanted to give us a quick rundown on a quick way to get to some high points here, that would be much appreciated. So this is what I'm thinking. I think the goal here is going to be to try to stack the start of your modes with the Frankenstein multiball. Okay. So if you can go ahead and you can get your modes on the verge of starting and then be able to. Just starting. and be unable to complete them. Right, because I think in the Frankenstein multiball, you're able to knock out multiple modes at the same time. So we'll see how it plays out. Rip the spinner. Zach says they're having dinner with the dead flips. Yeah, all right, well, good. Hey, wish I was having dinner with the dead flips. You're good. Yeah, prep the monsters with one shot and go to stardom, and then once all started, then start Frank. Okay. A couple monsters and one shot, then go to stardom. Geekward Games says rip the spinner. Now, ripping the spinner is going to get us potentially 500 bits for one of the pin quests tonight. So let's see what we've got going on. Rest in peace, Spinner42Gids. Hey, guys, it's Monday. It's good to be back here on the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network, man. I'm psyched everybody's in chat. Absolutely. Getting ready to rock this out a little bit. I also wanted to let everybody know, thank you for the 1080p stream remark. Thanks for letting us know. We are taking these bits and we're putting them back into the stream. We've done some upgrades visually, and we've done some upgrades throughout the stream. So as we start rolling into what we think is going to be a more professional and polished show for everybody, we thank you because without your support, we weren't able to do it. So thanks, guys. Yes, thank you, guys. Captain Red Eye, there's an elite galloping ghost. It's great. I have not made it out there in a while. I've never been there. How sad is that? We live 30, 40 minutes. Yeah, but you're a guy who's like a Gallop and Ghost arcade. For pinball, anyway. Fair enough. I have enough pins that I can't even get around to these days. Oh, Captain Red, I thank you very much for the 1,000 bits, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. 100 Southwest, Southwest Poppin' Head. Thank you, buddy. All right. I've got to say nothing against Theron, Dead Flip, but I know y'all, how you stay engaged with the audience during the show. In typical fashion, I freaking suck at opening the stuff. Oh, sorry. Hey, Pinquest Pinball, 2,500 bits starting this off. Thanks, man. Thanks, Neil. Thanks for starting us off. Thanks, Neil. Thanks for starting us off, Neil. I appreciate it. It's always fun to try to tackle the Pinquest. Oh, Southwest Pennsylvania Pinheads here. Where is he? There it is. Oh, thank you for the 100 bits. Empire Captain Red Eye, thank you for the 1,000 bits. You guys are freaking awesome, man. Here we are, barely starting off here, and we're starting off with a bang. And I do completely, completely appreciate it. We had two mortar sports followed us just prior to the stream, so welcome aboard to the Flip N Out Pinball team here. Welcome, welcome. Wow, this game is beautiful. Yeah, it's a beautiful game. Now, don't get caught up looking at it because you've got a ball on the plate that you have to pay attention to as well. It's raining bits, guys. It's raining bits. It's raining bits. Yeah, so this game is on loan from Chicago Gaming Company. Ryan White said, you know what, if you guys want to stream this this week, go right ahead. And I'll tell you why this is great, guys, because it's always nice to be able to talk and have a conversation with a pinball manufacturer that understands that having their machine being streamed is beneficial not only for the machine and not only for the distributor who's offering the machine, but just for pinball in general. More pinball game stream, better. And couldn't ask for a nicer group of people to work with at CTC. Oh, yeah, great people. Beautiful game. Absolutely. You know, this one's been out making the rounds at shows, man. That still looks absolutely incredible. Yeah, this is their show game, and it's been around. And when you look at it, it looks HUL. When I say HUL, like HUL condition. It does. There's not any battle wounds on it. Playfield looks real nice. There's no credit dots or anything. It's solid. Sugar Lane looks really nice on this game. Are the LEs sold out is an excellent question. And Dequord Games is asking, Munsters or Monster Bash? And I think, Bill, you'll be the person to ask after tonight's stream because you just recently acquired a Munsters. I did get Munsters. So we'll see what's going on. I got a Munsters Pro, though, so it might not be a fair comparison. Moobut75 says, Let's be honest, guys. Do I pick up this or Attack from Mars first? I love Attack from Mars. Yeah. You're asking me. I'm a big Attack from Mars guy. same here job in a deep fruit has keeps no they do they got games except see them yet at least are sold out they got lots of stuff Steve video pins been around like that 90s I guess I've been around sorry for that I still find some Ellie's floating around somewhere. I feel there's got to be a couple on the shelves somewhere. I believe the special edition does have the GI changes that the LE does. The classic may not. Yeah. And you have an Attack of Mars, too. I do. So it'll be an Attack special. I'm curious to see your opinion at the end of this. Yeah. Yeah, I've been looking forward to putting some time in on this, Dan. Yeah, I don't know if they've changed colors. Yeah, Zach, I agree. At least that FD, man, on any of these, well, the last two releases. Yeah, Geek Board Games, you know what? It does seem like it has a few more shots, but I don't know if that's really a hindrance or not. What up, Dave? Dave? CDC has not given us any update on what they're up to. So, wish we had more info for you, but we don't at the moment. But we'll try and find out. All right. All right, right, right. Good deal, good deal. What's up, Dave? Welcome to the house. Zach clarifies that the new RGB lighting was debuted on the Monster Battle remake, not the Tech Show. Right, you're not going to have that light show on Attack from Mars. You will have the extra-large DMV, which you're seeing tonight. Which is? And just a premier package. Awesome. With a classic game. That's kind of why I went SV on Attack from Mars. Headline guy, what's up? How are you, man? What's going on? I mean, when you think about, like, some Monster Bash attack from Mars, these were all the pins that people were clamoring for, but you had to pay a high dollar to get something. Oh, yeah. $10,000 to $15,000. Right. Like, the higher end were in the $10,000 range, and then the roach ones were in the $6,000 or $7,000 almost. Now you can get something that's, like, brand new. Now, again, it might not appeal to the purists as much because you want something that's original, but these play and shoot just as well to me, and they're brand new. I love it. So it doesn't get any better than that. I love it. They're more snappy. Everything's new. You take an original, and you try to make it look like a remake, and that's what's kind of where I'm at with that. Yep. Let's see. Geekly Games. Jebbers says the Pierce can go playing some traffic. All right. Get off your feet and jump. All right. What did you just start there, Bill? He's got something going on. Monster Mash Jam Pit. Oh, so I think we just acquired 500 bits if we go ahead and we look at the Pinquest challenges tonight. Monster Pit Multiball. 500 bits. Oh, that's cool, man. I've got an appreciation for the purest. There's some things I like. I like the purest. Some things I don't mind if they're remade or enhanced or whatever, right? Monster. Oh, I wasn't. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Bill's going a little crazy here right now. Blue butt, solid white water. You know, that's a great game, but I'd probably go Monster Bash for it or Attack of the Mars all day. To get lag on Monster Bash? I've not noticed any lag on Monster Bash. That being said, I didn't notice any lag on Attack from Mars Remake either, and I was an LE owner of Attack from Mars for a while. So maybe I'm just not the guy to ask. And if there is lag, that's why I've had such a hard time. That would be my excuse. Well, you've had the medieval madness, but not the remake. I had... No. Oh, no, I'm talking about Attack from Mars. Yeah, yeah. I had Attack from Mars Remake. So Team Little Price is saying that MMR, perhaps. Hey, good ball, man. I don't know. You just earned 500 bits from Pin Quest. So thanks. I want to thank Zach and Nicole Many at Flip N Out Pinball for allowing us to help host this pinball stream. Without Zach and Nicole's help, our stream is in a completely different direction. And it doesn't allow us to play these newest games all the time. And, of course, just about anything that we stream here can be purchased or ordered through Zach and Nicole at FlippinOutPinball.com. So make sure you visit them. And if you've not chosen a distributor yet, I definitely would put my reputation on the line as somebody that would back up Zach and Nicole. And if, for whatever reason, you're considering making a change, I would consider Zach and Nicole flipping off pinball. Absolutely. Great people to deal with. No pressure. Anybody that has not chosen them, we will boot from the stream here. And you will be banned permanently. No, no, no, no. Not at all. Not at all. The other thing, like with the distributor, Distributor is such an important thing to have in pinball if you're buying new and boxed and even to an extent like used stuff. Because if you don't have that relationship with your distributor, communication can get whacked. But if you have somebody that you're solid with, if it's not broke, don't fix it. That's kind of my thing. Like if you're going to hit this edge. And I've worked with some pretty solid distributors. And I've had some unfortunate circumstances with the distributor, too. But for the most part, pretty good experience. Zach and Nicole, no different. Very good experience with machines that we've had come through here. And with the purchase of my Wonka LE. Yeah. Absolutely. And Deadpool. And Deadpool. Deadpool premium. And he bought a few machines. He's bought Star Wars, Willy Wonka Special, or I keep saying Special Edition. Standard Edition. Standard Edition. Well, Standard is Special. It is Special. Willy Wonka is Special regardless. Yeah, no. and pretty soon hopefully we'll be able to purchase another game from Zach. So see how that goes. Well, yeah, you might be. You've got to get on the flipping out theme here. Absolutely. Big Lebowski, we actually have in the corner. We've got an issue with it right now, so we can't stream it. And the issue is it's not in the corner because we don't have one. Yeah. And truth. Truth is an issue on that team. Big Lebowski would be cool. but we'll see what happens, how that whole thing shakes out. And that's Zahnerith Dennis at Eclectic Gamers Podcast is here. So, Dennis, it's always good having you in chat. So I was listening to Zach and Dennis today on This Week in Pinball because it was their week to get on the same team as far as they're producing a show. It does not fail to disappoint. We got a little extra ball there. I did. Nicely done, nicely done. I had a Dracula mode going. No, that doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was like 25 bits if you got Dracula multiball. Or Dracula mode, not even multiball. I'm kidding. Yeah, we'll have to play that commercial one more time. Screenshot that sucker. You sound like he's in the... So, Pinberg is over, and Keith Elwin takes his fifth. Pinberg. It's unbelievable. That's sick, dude. That's sick. One person to do that five times. Is he like the Ted Williams of pinball? Like, are we watching, like, the Jordan of pinball? Think about it, man. You're not dealing with one person, man. I think there's so many variables in a pinball machine that you're playing, and then to go through 1,000 people, you know, not all of it. It's just, I don't know. I don't understand how it works. It's amazing. What about showing us Zach's cosmic carnival? We have to ask Zach about that. Because I know that has been discussed. Wookie Jeep, anybody else watching the stream while having to change their kid's dirty diaper? I will soon enough. Yeah, Bill will be changing the diapers on the stream. Yeah, William Jr. might be laying in the corner. But that's okay. Hell of a goat, says Dave Fogler. Moobot, 75, it was Dumb and Dumber. I just know I'm flabbergasted. Godsmack, if you will. Yeah, what a week for Keith. What a week for all the competitors that were able to get out there. We were talking earlier. Whenever I see a show going on and I'm not there and I'm watching a Facebook post in the beginning, I'm like, oh, this is cool. We're getting some updates. And then by the end of the weekend, I feel regretful that I wasn't there. I'm kind of jealous a little bit. We could have made the trip. Honestly, this was a bad weekend for us to do that, though. Every weekend's a bad weekend for me to drive more than two hours. Well, dude, you know how it goes. You got another extra ball? Another extra ball? Was it just like spitting extra balls at Steve there? Yeah, you know what, though? Yeah, there is no good weekend, but especially in summer for us. Well, I know for me it's hard. Radcom69, hello, what's going on? How are you? Moobuck, what's chili noodles? You gave the baby chili? You know what movie that's from? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Who knows what movie that's from? You gave the baby chili? Pinburg is not a six-hour drive-thru. No, Hindenburg is like probably an 11-hour. I'm looking it up now. It's a six-hour drive in the space shuttle, Jobber, not in the minivan. You got a little Frankenstein multiball going on here, Steve? Yep. As we look out here, Zac Stark-Frankenstein multiball is worth 500 bits. So we've accumulated 1,000 of the 2,500 bits tonight and probably just under 50 minutes of pinball playing. That's a first, man. A meal from PinQuest might have been easy on us to motivate us early. Yeah. But the question is, can we get to some of the more difficult challenges later? And I hope that we can. Pinberg's like seven hours and five minutes from here. Seven hours and five minutes? I thought it was earlier. Oh, we're talking a three-and-a-half-hour trip. Three-and-a-half-hour. Absolutely, man. Four years off my life. We're going to load up the Grand Cherokee, man, and we'll roll. Right. Twelve hours from Minnesota. That sounds about right. Twelve hours isn't too bad. Replay effects look cool. Maybe next year. She's never been. Yeah, carpool. Yeah, Jobber, as you're driving through Chicago, come pick us up. Absolutely. We should just rent a bus, man, and do that drive. A good old party bus. Throw a pinball machine in the back going down the highway. Voice of Marc Silk. Is that the infamous Marc Silk joining us in chat tonight? Now, Marc Silk, if it's you, I want to say thanks for coming in and donating some of your time this evening. Absolutely. And I hope, because I know Marc Silk, and this is renowned professional voiceover artist Marc Silk. He's got his Monster Bash on order, L.E., I believe. And I think that's on a boat. which is heading to Europe. So he should have that pretty soon. All right, we've got to see how Steve did here for a second. Yes, Steve, let's do a score total here. With three extra balls. 40 million. He just missed the 50 million point mark, which would have got us 500. Yeah, it's okay. Hot darn. Well, you had a six-ball game there. Hey, from the U.K., what's up? What up, Mark Stilk? It is Mark Stilk. What up? Yeah, Mark never joins, man. I feel lost. Sweet. It's special today. You gotta be kidding me, dude. I didn't even... Thank you, Southwest for the 300 biddies. Oh, thank you much, man. Appreciate it. Maybe a minute. All right. That was the quickest ball I think you've ever had on a stream. It felt good making sure the plunge button worked, so that's checked out okay. All right, let's go for another one. Team Low Prices, thank you for the bids, man. Hey! Factory ball save is 10 bits. Yeah, there's no ball save here, guys. We're trying to stay with the game how it was intended to be played. Yeah, for sure. And that's with no ball save. Stilky Smooth about to go to sleep. Ha ha. And Mark Stilk says, you're always special. Well, we're special when lit. And that's why we have our beverages of choice tonight. Cheers to that. Cheers, kid. Cheers, man. Steve, always good having you in the studio. Always good to be here. Cheers, Chet. Yeah, ball save. Well, you know what? This is a... It's not a Dwight Sullivan game. No, but it's their show game, though. Maybe they turned it off. Well, Bill went in because we checked that out, and you said that factory settings are without a ball setting. Yeah. I thought the same thing, too, man. Maybe... Interesting. I just left it off, but that's all right. Joe Fox. Joe, hey, thank you for coming in and thank you for the 100 bits. I want to say something else, too. So, Joe, I was talking to a mutual friend of ours that was at Pinbird, and they said that they were having a conversation with you and that you had some very kind words to say in general, so I wanted to say thank you so much for that, man. It's good to be able to call you my buddy, and I always love seeing you come in, man. So thanks for spending some time with us tonight. On Monday. Thanks, Brother Joe. Dude, it's been a while since I talked to you. We'll have to hook up soon. Not four extra balls, Steve? Not this one. That's ball two. Or ball three. My good ball is usually ball two. Yeah, that left ramp is kind of interesting, Zach. It was just going up a second ago, man. And it's just a bit outside of what it needed to be up there. A little bit. No, Joe. You're a good dude, man. Definitely a good dude. Yeah, Joe, are you coming to Xbox? This game is killing me right now. Woo-wee. The thousands. It literally... Now, for those of you that have followed this stream over the course of the last couple months, it takes me a few games to get warmed up, and I don't play this during the day to get warmed up. So, where I might be a terrible pinball player, I'm not nearly as terrible as I portray myself to be over the first two or three games on stream. And it's not that I'm nervous. I just, it takes me two or three games to kind of get my shot down. That's why I'd be horrible in competition pinball. Because they're not going to let me jump on a machine and play it like seven or eight times and then be like, all right, this score counts. Mine will be like the first game before we stream. Like, I'll throw one ball in, and it'll be the best game. Right. And then I'm crap the rest of the night. And I would agree. Joe Fox, 22, one of the best people in pinball. I would absolutely agree. Is that Joe's answer for Expo? That's kind of crummy, man. Yeah, man. Is Joe coming to Expo? No, I said probably not. Oh, really? Yeah. Dennis, are you actually going to make it out to Expo? I know you guys are talking about it. I think Dennis was trending down for Expo also, but... That's because he needs a shirt. I have been talking to Mark Stillick about potentially trying to get him out to Expo, and it's not out of the question for him because he's going to be in New York. Okay. The week and a half prior. Yeah. So he's got some things he's got to juggle around and see if he can figure it out, but it would be great to have Mark come out. Yeah, man, that was a darn good time at TPF, man, that night on the bar porch or whatever. I mean, it was like everyone in pinball was on this patio. Yeah, it was pretty fun. Joe Fox. Outland, thank you for the follow, by the way. Thank you so much. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, TPF was an experience. Are you 100% committed to going back to TPF next year? I got to see how things go. I would really like to. It's not for a lack of want. Me too, man. Yeah. Honestly, I was just having a... Let me think here. TPF's in March, so our son would be five months old. Five, six months. Yeah, that might be a little rough still to get out of the house. But we shall see David Dennis We really didn't have any barbecue I mean we had a couple local restaurants The Concrete Cowboy we went to That place was awesome That view was sick Yeah That place was awesome Good times down there Alright Oh Pete's Hill is out there Oh So somebody activated the magic word cbjfan0879 says he loves this table now table as a word was the topic of discussion today on this week of pinball all right it's a properly used term in modern day pinball or not so interesting that you brought that up glad you offered that to the conversation driver says my rule in traveling one never eat anything i can eat back at home but you're traveling unless you brought it from home then what do you do unless you know what's better or originated where you're traveling to like warm chicken that's traveled 300 miles. You want to eat that in a hotel bed next to Dwight Sullivan and Greg Bone. That's like the only way. Right before you're going to dare. Right before you're going to go there. Which is a shame. Anyone that's been to Expo or planning on coming, there's a local establishment that many frequent that went to Expo that is now closed. Oh, yeah. Twin Peaks closed down. Twin Peaks closed down. Shocker. Shocker. Terrible. Hey, Steve, would you have a Ken ball there, huh? It's like, oh, this game's going to be my game tonight. Yeah. All right. It's too bad there are no team challenges tonight, guys. We're on our own. Yeah, you know, when we were down there, it was just hard to get around a little bit. As a Canadian, yeah. I understand that. You're like a verbal saver, aren't you? Maybe we need to turn Ball Save on So I don't buy games The Greg Bone chickens did look delicious though I will have to say that much It looked good man I'm getting ready to start cussing a little bit on the screen I was a little bit upset I was a little frustrated going into the podcast earlier And I kind of felt like I kind of Got a little stuff out And now I'm here kind of relaxing It's killing me If my second game was my first game It would be time for a commercial Looking forward to that podcast, then. I have to do some editing on the podcast. A little frustration. Well, not so much voice frustration, just in general. Anyhow. Anyhow. All right. Zach says, don't be an ass, come to Expo. Dondre says, Lou Malnati's is pretty close, too. You know what? I mean, in my opinion, there's better pizza, but Lou Malnati's is like your stereotypical sea fish pizza from Chicago, and it's solid. That's for sure. David Dennis says, if you were in bed with Dwight Sullivan, would you eat a bucket of chicken or complain about Ghostbusters' cost? Did you mean cost, or did you mean code? I know where you're going with that one. Hey, now, don't put words in the guy's mouth. The code is being fixed. I'm going to eat a bucket of chicken. As we speak. As we've done. There's an assembled team of top men that are taking down that Ghostbusters code under Dwight's lead. AP, next game on live catch. AP, next game on live catch. Live catch pinball. What's going on with that? AP, next game on live catch. I don't know what that means. Yeah, never had the oolong. Nothing like promoting yourself in chat. I just don't know what you're doing. So let us know what that means. Cody Sessions. I thought you meant code. I don't know what everybody... Everybody needs to lay off Dwight, in my opinion. The guy just rocked it out on a Ghostbusters or a Game of Thrones update. Dude, he's game-changing. That freaking Ghostbusters code is getting ready to rock and roll. And for those that have been patient, you got the payoffs, though. Yeah. Let's give the guy a break. Hang out on those Ghostbusters, guys. See you. Ghostbusters might be trending up. after this co-drops. Well, I feel like it... The pending co-drop is already trending up. It's going to be a game-changer. Did you smack the pinball machine, Bill? Yes, I did. I love it. It deserved it. It deserves it a little bit tonight. Trending up, Ghostbusters. Job is very controversial. You chat a lot, but there you go. All right. Yeah, but I was kind of distracted by hearing And Dwight's name getting brought up. No, no, no, no, Bill. It's fine. Okay. Yeah, that's okay. It's fine. We're good. We're not fly today. It's okay. It's okay. This is a no-fly zone for that. Don't worry about it. Just be happy. Bits and bytes. Monster Bash, best game ever. I don't know about that. Steve, you've got a phone call coming in. Don't mean to distract you there. That's his number? That says Bob, dude. I don't know who Bob is. Oh, Bob? Bob. He would love to be on the street. I bet he would. Captain Bob. Maybe he can call in later. Don't let Schmitty play your machines. He is mean as fluff. He's mean as expletive to them. Fluff to them. That's 50 mils getting further and further away, guys. I'm purposely not walking up to the machine because as player three, I want my turn to last a little longer. Well, right now you have a perfect score. What is that? Zero? Yeah. What up, Cubs? Cubs in the house. Late to the party, no, man. You right on time. I think J.J.P. Pirates is awesome. That's one that I wouldn't mind snagging one day. One that are a little more in my price range. Where we at here? Where we at? You're never late to the party. You're always fashionable to the party. Turn that phone over. All right. Yeah. Yeah, zero tolerance for that, too. That's as far as I'm going to go with that one. Of course, everybody has zero tolerance, right? But the game itself is good. Yeah, it is. And it's going to be better. It's already good. Oh, yeah. It's going to be awesome. Oh, Ken's getting mean. Oh, man. Yeah, some people are irritable from last week. Zach, I agree with you, man. Too many people did work on that. Work on what? GB. Ghostbusters. It's going to be solid. It's a whole team. I like it already. It'll be better. Yeah, Ghostbusters is a fun game. Full disclosure, I installed the Center Post Kit tonight at Ghostbusters Premium. Yeah. I know it wasn't intended to have a center post, but I don't know that it was intended for that flipper gap. That center post kit, in my opinion, makes the game a lot more fun. I know that's sacrilege to some people, but it wasn't a permanent mod. It wasn't a permanent edition. It comes off. I didn't put all that gaudy Slimer stuff all over the play field. I just, just a center post. Hey, man, to each his own, though. Yeah, Outlands agrees with me. Ironically, his name is Outlands. He loves the center post because then it gets going to the outland. No, but I agree with you. Yeah, center post kits are not for punk asses. They are for people that want to have a pinball machine stick around for longer than three weeks after it's a drain monster. The mediocre players. Bill, lamb in the game. Abusing BGC's property. I love it. I'm just teaching it to act right. Yeah, as a matter of fact, PinQuest, I have a tee and a hitting net set up in my yard, and I do hit out there every single night. Because I am a member of a 30 and over softball league, and I'm a retired athlete. That's why I'm in pinball now. Absolutely. That's it. That's it. Bumper bowling, I do not object to bumper bowling. Oh, hell no. That's more fun. Dude, I'll throw down some bowling. Absolutely. Dust the ball off, grab my shoes. Rodcom, thank you much for the bitch, man. Hey, Rodcom. Dog and bitch, man. That's awesome. Thank you so much, man or woman. We don't want to have any type of offensive slip on the streams. So thank you, chat joiner and viewer, for the thousand bits. Very, very nice of you. Do you think the industry is moving forward? Download content on the code. I wouldn't be surprised to see some microtransactions for different updates for games, in all honesty, with that whole thing going on. Yes, Dennis, we don't want to stress that either. Anonymous sees the prototype TMA. We streamed that last week with Scott Danesi. It was fun. It's here now. You are fostering it. So it was out of the garage. That's right. Ooh, none of it. All right, sorry, guys. You're getting caught up. Yeah, you have some prototypes here. So Bill, Team Low Prices, asked. I knew you were going to say something, man. No, I'm just saying. Yeah, this was discussed on a podcast. Yeah, but we can talk about it again. So, because I have a deeper appreciation for cabinets. Yeah, exactly. There are a few in my basement that I built. I don't, there's, nudging is not encouraged at my house. It's not encouraged at the bills, for sure. Yeah, I mean, I get it. Sometimes at school, but, you know. But we're not all, we're not professional players. No, we're not. We're not playing for a hundred bucks. If we're playing for money, then yeah, I can see nudging. Exactly. But we do, I do take my ring off. Yeah, you do. I take my ring off. No, you're good about it, man. I've seen you dance a pinball machine across the floor before, which is hilarious. Not as much as Zach. All right. Zach can dance with a pinball machine. A little bit, yeah. A little two-stepping going on with a pinball machine. I like it. Yeah. Black Knight Sword of Rage is here. The made-to-bang. Jobber. And that's actually an LE. And it's for sale. And you can contact Zach at Flip N Out Pinball Pinballs if you want to acquire it. Again, I'm fostering this one, too. I'm fostering the pins right now. Scott said TNA Whitewoods for sale. Too right. You know what? I think Scott said anything for the right price is probably for sale. But he's not looking to move that. He's probably at this point not actively looking to move the game. Justly not. Train it or save it, Bill. Cheetos on pinball nights. Yeah, that goes back in the Bill's cinnamon hands. Is that Cheetos or Cheetios? Cheerios and a Cheeto mix? Oh. You might be on to something. That might be some type of a snack mix. I kind of, that's interesting. Getting your punching, I can see, but nudging doesn't really damage the pin. You could always put rubber feet on the front legs. Yeah, Bill's talking about the nudging in the corners of the cabinets kind of separating it, you know, a hairline crack. He's a cabinet guy. Completely respect him on this thing. Jack says wedding rings, bruises, and cuts are just part of the machine's history. Part of the machine's history is when you want to buy the machine, then it's like something at Z value. Exactly. Or go to sell it. Whoa! Wow. Are you playing this with a ring on? You're a flipper. That's like 800 bucks off. And it's gone. You don't walk up to the game and be like, oh, that's awesome. You've got some ring damage on there. Exactly. That just adds a lot to the history of the game. Ooh. That's Lord of the Rings, huh? Load it up. Are you Lord of the Rings? Load it up. I'm going to put more rings on and really give my game some character. Zach does like to shake some balls out of the outlings. That's right. I've witnessed it. Yeah, I have too. I've seen Zach go airborne with both feet and almost doing like a handstand on the lockdown bar when we were doing the outside sort of rage. His butt was moving, and that was during the machine. It was impressive. Then I started trying to do it, and I almost kicked you in the face twice because you were sitting too close to me. I have no business going out to hands on you. Anyhow, my bad. Yeah, I am too, Zach. I'm out of place where I've accepted that. But I get it. Totally. If something's going to be damaged, I hope it is the sides of the cabinet. Because it's one of those things that, in a row, you're never going to see anyways. So who cares? I don't like damaged heads as much because those are easily, you know, are in your vision. But the sides I don't mind so much. Like, whatever. Some people's rows are further apart. Some people, you know, may not even have a row. They just have one in the corner. All right, so hey, Brian, what's up? Kaz is here. Love Monster Bash remake LE. We have one on location nearby. FinQuest says, Kimball podcast journey, who wins? Not special one lit. Any word on what Chicago is going to make next? So the rumor on the street is Cactus Canyon, potentially for a 2020 release. Rodcom 69. How do you guys compare this game to something new like Wonka or Jurassic Park? Interesting question, Because where it is a classic, it's a new remake, so the pin itself is new. Yeah. The design elements hold up. I think what a lot of the newer games are aspiring to do is to stimulate the experience of the older games with, like, packed playfields and toys and campy fun. So in that aspect, it's an interesting comparison. Now if somebody asked me would I rather have like a Wonka or would I rather have a Monster Bash That tough too because Monster Bash is one of those top Arguably top two or three games in the history of pinball But I so high on Wonka too that it would be tough for me to choose over that right now I think it all comes down to after you play these games for a while, you kind of see what works for yourself. Cactus Canyon, oh, and thank you for the follow, Thunderstores. I appreciate you coming to the channel. So from what I'm hearing, Eric Priepke, now he's the one that coded Cactus Canyon Continued on that rule set. There were a lot of licensing issues that went into that where it might not have made sense for them to try to do that on this release. So what I'm hearing is there will be an updated code set on that game, but it won't be the continued code as we're used to it. And they had reached out to the original person that had programmed the game. Not a bad ball, though. They might be able to go ahead and finish it. Regardless, I don't think it will be the continued rule set that you guys have seen recently. Do, do. You guys have nothing to do, man. Yeah, it's a voice of stillness. It's alive, really loving the light show. The light show is incredible, Mark. It's incredible. I'm really liking this game, dude. Are you really? Yeah. You just really? Yeah. All right, good. I've never really had an opportunity to play a nice monster band. That's awesome, man. And have, like, you know, a decent time on it. Do you think TGC has a production line backup? It's possible. I don't know what they have as far as backups or not. This is the thing. When you're in pinball manufacturing, there are so many parts, right? If one of those parts go on back order or one of those parts are obsolete for a certain amount of time, you're either outsourcing to something else and trying to make changes on the fly, which is going to be hard in production manufacturing, I would assume, or you wait for that stuff to become available. So step-backs happen. I think we're seeing the alleys rolling out. So, I mean, that's good. Yeah. Better. Yeah, but, you know, I mean, they've got enough titles in the tank, dude, I think they could always revisit Medieval Madnesses, dude. I think there will always be a little market on that. Attack from Mars, dude. I mean, those are staple games, dude. You could throw back on route. Zach says this title is right up your alley, Bill. Vincent Bites says, as far as easy rule sets go, nothing beats Monster Bash. It's also forgiving. I kind of appreciate the rule sets. Hit this shot five times. Hit this shot five times. That's what I like a lot about Scared Stiff. That's what I would like potentially a lot about Monsters if I had more time on Monsters, too. Hit this shot five times. Hit this shot five times. I do like it. Let's see. Monster Bash LE is one of the favorites for sure, says Outland. Kyle says, I hate that Stern couldn't get the Keep license. Keep license? Southwest Pennsylvania Pinhead says, How many months into production does it usually take for Stern to ship premiums? First are the pros, and then the LEs go on the line, and then the premiums. So, yeah, I would say you're probably at that six to eight-week mark before you start seeing premiums after the initial reveal of the game. Maybe Zach can chime in and give us some additional information as a distributor. I'm sure he's more down with the accurate information than I am. I'm just going by what I've seen in the past. Chris Pinter, thanks for dropping in, and thanks for the 10-bits, man. Thanks for coming in. Kerry Hardy's here, busy with the game, but he's been here, so it's always good to see you. What up, Kerry? He always forgets that this was not Brian Eddy. True, you think about those classics from that design era, and you had Medieval Madness and Attack from Mars, both Brian Eddy designs. And Shadow was the follow-up, which wasn't as heralded as the first two, but now you're seeing a resurgence of Shadow come through. Yeah, those are going up, too. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm really digging the Monster Bash, though. So Zach's kind of confirming the timeline on the premiums. Thanks, Zach. I appreciate it. Double dog, what up? I meant to say that I wish that Stern had the Jeep license on his restaurant. Yeah, I can see that. That makes sense. Yeah, but you know what? I don't think it's the end-all, be-all. I mean, I'd be curious to see how much it would have affected pricing on it, but I don't think it would have been the end-all, be-all. Is this going to be the best game? Well, you've got a Lord of the Rings that you're going to be playing here pretty soon. that I'm on from the BD library. Studio B shuttled over at Lord of the Rings. It's upstairs, getting ready to come down sometime this weekend. We will not be streaming Lord of the Rings, to my knowledge, but it's something I want to put some time on. Alvord Games. Streaming Jurassic Park Premium. No, I think we're just doing the pro. We'll start with the pro. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a premium come through here. I wouldn't mind a play of premium either. Al Anonymous, do you think Elvira will be a Nordman design, or do they shift the project over to Brian Eddy with Norman Lester? Now, I am absolutely convinced that it is Nordman's original design with Greg Freres on the art package. Those two did the first two, and even though Nordman's had Deep Root, I don't think they redesigned that pin. So if I had to guess, it's not even I'm guessing. I think we talked to Greg Freres on our podcast a couple months ago, and he confirmed that it's him and Dennis Nordman. So there's no surprise there. Zach, in my honest opinion, this is Gomez's best design. I can see that, man. I really like this, but I haven't had a whole lot of time to. You know, we know people with monster bashes and stuff like that, but, I mean, some of them aren't the best quality examples. Sure, yeah. I'm having a blast, though, man. Oh, yeah. I'm digging this game, Bill. This is no good for you, then. Oh, it's good. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude. I can see what's coming to Steve's house next. Next on the radar. Yeah. Beep, beep, beep, beep. I don't know about that. Bits and bits. I think Transformers is underrated, but I don't think it's Monster Bash, though. Lord of the Rings, Monster Bash, yeah. Voice of Growth Mark says, how was the remastered Monster Bash audio sound in there? Oh, my gosh. It's good. Love the way I heard of that spot. You know what the sad part is? I know you're going to be completely opposite of exactly what I'm going to say right now. Okay, yeah. I am really looking forward to playing this right now. Oh, I'm looking forward to playing it right now. Well, you're looking forward to starting this. I am. It's not out of it. No, I'm getting ready to take it down a little bit. So, first three games, it's cooled me. Just a little warm-up, man. Just a little bit. Only three games. It's only three games. We're going to pause here for some station identification. While Ken goes and breaks some shit. There you go. On the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. Oh, what happened to Bill? Bill's gone. I don't know what happened. That was unbelievable. Houdini. I did want to take another quick second and look at the PinQuest challenges for tonight. Brought to you by PinQuest, pinquest.com. Start Frankenstein Multiball was a payout of 500 bits, and we did that tonight. So 500 bits. Score 50 million points and 100 million points. Each worth 500 bits. We have not been able to do that. I'm confident we'll hit one, if not both, of those tonight. Start Mosh Pit Multiball 500 bits. We were able to do that. And start Monster Bash 500 bits. We should be able to do that tonight. So right now we're looking at, what do we have? One, two out of five, and it's still early. I'll get that 50. Always good times. Always good times. We're going to start another three-player game here in a second. Maybe we'll switch up the order. I think we reversed the order. because for whatever reason, I prefer to go last, and it's just not working out for me right now. You want to start it up? Yeah, I'm in this weird in-between thing right now. Or do you want to go player two and I'll start it up? That could get complex because now you're starting from the middle and wrapping around. It's up to you, Steve. I don't know. What do you feel like you'll have your back? I'm going to lead it off. I'm going to lead it off. All right, lead it off. So let's do that. I'll start a three-player game. Hopefully Bill's able to get down here before we do that. Yeah, no, we're good. If the pin audio is too high or too low, let us know because we can adjust that too. It sounds loud on our end, but I think that's just because we're right in front of it. Before I jump into the game again, I want to take one more second, and I'll say this throughout the night. I wanted to thank Ryan White and Chicago Gaming Company for lending us the Monster Bash Remake LE, and they made this stream possible tonight, and it's nice to be able to work with a manufacturer. Big thanks. And they realize the importance of displaying the game and furthering pinball and increasing its exposure, and it's nice to work with them. So thank you, CGC. Thank you, Ryan White. And thanks, everybody, for joining us here in the Flavono Streaming Network. And I'm about to start another game. If I don't get 50 million points this game, I'm going to have to do something bad. Let's start with baby steps. Let's go 25 million. I've got to go 50. I've got to go 50. Bill, we're reversing the order, bud. All right. All right. So our example actually doesn't have a topper on it. So, you know, the topper on the LE, oh, man, that is cool, though. I remember seeing that at Expo last year and being blown away. All right, so I want to throw a question out here for everybody in chat. Is it just me, or do you guys not know? Malort, yeah. No, no Malort. We're going to keep that bottle corked. Is it just me, or do you guys not find enough time to actually play the stuff that you guys have? And I've noticed this through the course of the last couple of years, is time is becoming more and more scarce. Not you, man. So for me, the depth of code isn't as crazy, so I don't really have the time to play it as much. You know, we were talking about Warwind earlier, and that left. Literally, that left with 38 games on it. So you didn't see the whole game. No, I actually... I actually, who barred that up, dude? Forgot to take the glass off and see the end of the game. You never do that. You never take the glass off and see the end of the game. Listen, guess what? Because when you get it back, that's the only reason you want to get it back, is because you want to see what you didn't see by taking off the glass. Listen, on Whirlwind, I think I deserved to take the glass off. No, because the next one you restore. No, what do you mean the next one I restore? Anyhow. Oh, Joe, we thank Joe for it. Joe, thank you, brother. Joe. Joe's like, yeah, man, that's awesome. Thank you, Joe. Look at the... I really, really appreciate it. I don't know what to say. Bill, you're up. Am I going to be? Yeah, remember, reverse the order. We're snaking. Yeah, you stay the same. No, reverse the order. You stay the same. Yeah, you're number two. You feel like a number two? Yeah, it's a snake. I mean, you're my number one. Snake or sandwich? Is Steve being sandwiched? Yeah, you don't... Oh, yeah! Hey! Tiki Pinball, thank you much, man. Oh, well, here, Joe Fox, thank you again, brother. Really appreciate it. Like I said, we've got to catch up soon. Yeah, you know what? People talking about code, I don't have the time to make it through any of this stuff. And actually, it's funny because when I bought a Demolition Man back from Steve, and literally the first thing I did after getting it shopped was took the glass off and saw everything in that game. Because I know there's no way I'd have enough time to get through. No, I never do that. I would never have enough time, you know. You know what drove me nuts is when I... Let's get caught up in chat here first. Sorry, guys. No, no, it's good times. If we miss you guys, send a message again, because we'll absolutely read it here on stream. Outlane's depth is key for me. Hell, when I stream, when the wife and I stream, it's around four hours at a time. Awesome. Wow. I did not realize that, Outlane. Very, very interesting. It's awesome that you're streaming with your wife. I can guarantee you this. I'm not really doing much of anything with my wife for four hours. No. As far as streaming, streaming is probably the last thing she wants to do for four hours. Well, you guys spend that kind of time together every night when you're sleeping, right? I don't even know if I sleep next door for four hours. Oh, okay. That's actually pretty good. Let's see. Let's see. Bill, why did you do all that effort to sell the machine under 30 days? It was 38 plays. Oh, 30 plays. 30 plays. No, that's fine. You know what, man? All right, so this was like the live version of... And real quick, this just in, and we're going to go back to your story. Yeah. But whenever there's breaking news, we have to absolutely talk about it on the Flippin' Outstream Network. All right. PinQuest Pinball is going to announce something very cool here in the next few days, and we're supposed to stay tuned. Bill, back to you in the booth. All right. So whirlwind to me was a – well, Ken saw it. You never saw it done, right, Steve? No, I saw it half. Halfway done. Dude, it was a really, really, really pretty example. And you're up next. And I'm just noticing on the camera you're like half cut off. You know why? Because I set everything up for that microphone. Oh, that's fine. And you've been like half the man you used to be all night long. There's a song like that. Yeah, well, it's still a chocolate pile. You know, I'm going to play my ball, and then, well, you know what? I need to finish the story. I'll adjust that camera for you, too. You know what? Honestly, I didn't want to be caught playing musical chairs with this pinball machine if it dropped. And I couldn't see losing any kind of money on it because I was so far into the red on that game. You know, it was more than six grand to build that game. and I sold it for more than I had into it, and I was happy to kind of give it to somebody that was going to play it, didn't care if we lost value on it. It went to one of our buddies in Kansas City. He's got it sitting next to a Wizard of Oz. So that's why I didn't mind selling that one, in all honesty. All right. Heard it here. Heard it here. See if I can get Bill in the camera angle here. Excuse me. Lions solo. Bill Sweetass is on two cams right now. Oh. Oh. Oh. While Ken's there, we might as well take it. Oh. Wait, what? I had my theater magic stolen from me. Ouch. Sorry to hear, Chris. That sucks, man. Chris, how did you have your theater stolen from you? That seems like a big thing to say there and not give any sort of explanation on. Yeah, all the Woz games in Kansas. Stereotypical. Yeah, Zach, if there's anything better than one bill, it's two bills. Yes, Kansas. Oh, grand champ. Oh, okay. Miss that. Cheers. Damn. Yeah, you know what? Yeah, that's fine. It's a good home. It gives you something to, you know, to work for. Yeah. So we'll have to get another whirlwind. Or actually do what we should do is make a road trip down to Zachary Money's house and play some whirlwind. Sounds like a good old time. That sounds like a great old time. That's a smitty whirlwind, right? That's a smitty whirlwind. Yeah, buddy. I don't have to feel bad about playing that one. I've seen a lot of, it's being a whirlwind train, but it's like even, I've seen a couple more people completely redoing whirlwinds. Yeah, dude. It's like the hot game to redo right now. Yeah, for sure. Great game. I'll probably own it. New house, man. Congrats, dude. Did you buy from Greg? Is Greg the realtor on that? Is Greg the realtor? That's a million dollar question. I don't know about that. I like cold chicken at Zax in a couple weeks. Ah, okay. All right. Oh, Greg missed out there. That's all right. Saving some money. Mark, in all honesty, dude, I would love to do a whole European thing at some point. Good. Let's go, man. I'm sure you would do it, too, man. I'd do it. You know what? Here's the problem. Buddy, look at next time. Where am I going to go? If I told my wife, P.P.F., I'm going overseas to Europe, she will have a corner. That's something she wants to do with me. Yeah, no, you'd have to do that. And I keep telling her. With the family, you know. Yeah. Give it a couple years, man. Well, I mean, honestly, what I would say is be like, yeah, we're going on to a Texas pinball festival. We just can't post anything. You know. That Eiffel Tower was just something they had in the parking lot. It was, you know, Big Ben over there. Ben. Parliament. What's that town in Texas? Pinball. Texas Pinball. Not Dallas. No, I can't think of the name of it right now. Not Fort Worth. Guys, what town is CPF in? Someone knows. Sorry, I'm going to get caught up in chat here a little bit. Hey, cold chicken, anyone? I think we can always call it that. Oh, that's called chicken. Cass just bought a whirlwind. Nice, buddy. Nice. Dude, that is probably my biggest regret. Yeah, you sold your mind. Frisco. Frisco. Frisco. Thanks, Chris. At the tip of my tongue. Yeah. I'll adopt a... If that's what you're looking for, let people adopt stuff, I mean, lots of ash I'd be willing to adopt right now. So, Kaz, did you buy a project game, or did you buy one that was working? David Dennis, yeah, dude, that is cool that you guys went to New York just to go to, well, not just to go there, but you got to see. Damn, dude, I was in New York two years ago, and I didn't know about Sunshine and the Walking Dead. Otherwise, I would have made it in the time to get over there for sure. Oh, absolutely. So Zach, Zach's about to listen to Homey's Only Walking Dead L.E. If anybody's interested, contact Zach or Nick. That's another game that seems to be turning up, I think, too. Turning up, big time. Or staying silent because they're not popping up. Dude, you can't even find a pro of those. You know what? It's a hot game. It is a hot game. I think I was on Pinside last week, dude, and there was only one pro up. Yeah. Yeah, no, they come around, but $2,800 for the work. Dude, that is a sick price, man. I sold my hand two and a half years ago. $2,400, fully working, LED, completely shopped. Yeah. No wonder why it went down. Guys, that's a great deal. Dude, if you were close, man, I'd be all about taking that off your hand. I would like to have another one, but just a nice, clean example. Who, Grand Lizard, is it $23? I don't know if that's a bad deal. I don't think Grand Lizard is $23. I don't think it is for me, but I don't think it's for me. I think the 11s are up there. The 11s are going nutty, man. He kind of had a ball over there. I had a ball and then... Oh! I thought I hit the extra ball and it rattled and came out. It's my 50 million point prediction game. Yeah? So that extra ball would absolutely help. What are we on? Ball two, right? Yeah. So I still got time. I got time for redemption. It's the last ball of the game. All right, good times. All right. So I left off at Stern's best, maybe. Yeah, but Stern's come out with a lot of solid stuff lately, man. but Walking Dead is cool. It's so much nicer having you in the picture. I don't know about that. In the frame right now, because before it was just like this. You were like the Han Solo guy in Carbonite, just kind of half sticking out. I like to think of the Harvey Dent's pinball in the last, you know, like half and half on there. Okay. It's all good. I got you. I got you. Yeah, Ken did turn. What did I turn up? You did alright on that last one. Oh, yeah. Well, you know what? Three games is more than enough. No excuse. Mark, yeah, you let us know how Sunshine is, man. That's one I wouldn't mind going to New York to go hit some Sunshine Laundromat. I would love to do that, too. New York's a pretty expensive place in general. Oh, it's real ridiculous. It's not a good time. Yeah. I'm sure it is. All right, so getting caught up here a little bit. There was a place in New York when I was there last. It was a long time ago. It was called Gray's Papaya, and it was like this hot dog joint on the corner. Yes. It's pretty impressive. That was actually in a movie. Yes, it was. With Matthew Perry. I don't know that it's still there. Oh, is that what it was? Don't rush in if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Nice job, Bill. Yeah. Just a random hot dog reference. You got years, movies. I'm telling you. Hey, if anyone in the chat knows what I'm talking about, or proved me wrong, please do. Mary and the Light, there's nothing better I enjoyed than an XL DMV with remastered animations. I love it. I think this pin's going to get lost, man. Yeah, it's pretty sick. It's going to get lost at my house. Yeah, well, it's already lost at my house, though. Well, yeah. That means something else would have to be lost from your house, which would have to get lost over here. Hey, we could bring the monsters over here. Unfortunately, it's not mine to lend out. It's not mine from CGC. And we do appreciate that. Thank you, Chicago Game Company, for letting us the Monster Bash LE tonight. Absolutely. For our Flippin' Up Pinball stream. Pools rush in, Captain Red Eye says. Oh, my eye. All right, perfect. Sorry to get you caught up. All right. So I would like to ask you guys something. And I want you to think about this, because if you're going to stick around for after hours, I want to know this. I mean, I assume that most of you that are here have also watched other pinball streams, and you currently are watching other pinball streams and you kind of have an idea of things that you like and things that you don't like and maybe things that you think could improve or not, we want to aspire to make this channel as best as possible. Now, we've got our ideas that we're going to be implementing and rolling out here over the next couple months, but if there's something that you think would benefit the stream or maybe something that you don't particularly care for, love for you to speak up and let us know because feedback's important and we want to make sure the channel is as fun as possible for everybody that's here. Have a sweet one. light show uh dna versus monster bash remix dude that's freaking tough that's a great question that's a great uh this or that zach i'll tell you what that's a great this or that the inserts on tna are are amazing so i'm looking at it now yeah yeah he has to request for what What? Huzzah! I'm sorry, guys. All right, yes. Get caught up here. You know what, though? I believe he totally got that $2,300. Tighter skirts. I want to go back for a second, guys. Just bear with me, though. I can totally see him getting $2,300 on a Grand Lizard because it's such a rare kind of unique. It's a nice example. Yeah. That upper play field is usually pretty blown, right? Blown the freak out. So I could see. Yeah, I could see a nice example. Dude, I'm sure the one that we're talking about was like a blown-out cabaret. Probably your average. Smelled like raccoon. Your average guy. Yeah, dude, I don't look good in tight shirts. Well, I mean, I'm pretty tight. That slap-slave shirt I wore last week was a little on the tights. A little on the tighties. That's all good, though. More interviews with designers, artists, and music guys. All right. All right. Which I'm sure, honestly, I know we got some things in the work there, Sydney Sellers. Just keep on watching. Wow, look at that. Ah, Kyle, thank you, man. Nice to know that we're your first-ish stream. Good to see you, Ken. Thanks, man. From Geekward Games. Yeah, you know what? Honestly, Tiki Bar, I think it is kind of like a live stream, except we're able to talk about stuff. It's like a live podcast, right? It is kind of like a live podcast. You know, I'll be able to talk about stuff in real time. For sure. That's what the extra ball is for, I suppose. Oh, come on, baby. Thank you, Dennis. We are the peanut butter and jelly of streaming. I'll be right back. What lane do I want the skill shot to go in? The one that's unlit. I missed it. Can you believe that? You can switch your lane. Oh. I think we'll make another appearance for this. You've got to be kidding me, dude. Come on. That damn thing got in your head. I'm 43 million. So short of my 50 million points. Just a bit outside. I'm going 75 million next game. All right. Yeah, thanks, Neil. Let's meet with you. Neil says, once again, Ken, bottom of the ninth, two outs, and you strike out. Makes me want to run the commercial for you right now. Don't forget he's producing the show today. He's got the buttons, man. We don't. Yeah, you know what? I need to get something to drink. Thanks, Chris. I got this. Geekward Games. This one's for you, buddy. Swing! Chris the Pinsir, thank you much, man. Appreciate it. Hopefully we'll see you again soon if you're making it to Expo. Not that I know what my Expo schedule looks like quite yet, but we'll find out. Yep, yep. It is time for Ken to take a shot. With love. Oh, probably not. Chris, absolutely not Malort. I believe the Lord is retired for the evening. Kerry Hardy, I don't know if it's on him, dude. He did pretty good that last game. It's kicking the snot out of me right now. All right, let's see if I can break two million. Red solo. Oh, sorry. Let's see if I can break a million. Okay. Oh, man. All right, I'm back. Sorry about that. Anyhow, Secret Games, thanks for the suggestion. The best suggestion of the night for the stream is that I need to have a drink. Good call. Good call. Did I miss any of the feedback? Did we get any feedback for the stream? We can talk about it later. I'll watch the VOD. The VOD. So for those of you that don't know what VOD means, you might be hearing, I caught the VOD, or you can check out the VOD. It's V-O-D, right, which stands for Video On Demand. So when these streams are over, you can actually go to Twitch, our Twitch channel, which you're here so you know it's Flip N Out Pinball and you can watch the video on demand of the streams that you might have missed. Never a dull moment here in Flip N Out Pinball streaming network. Brian says he'd like to come to Expo. He'd like to come to Expo. Does anybody have any extra couch? Yeah, you know what? Brian, just come to the... I think we've got a room, right? Yeah, maybe there's a couch in there. Brian, we'll throw you in there, man. You can sleep in the tub on some ice. There's good money for kidneys in Chicago right now. Oh. All right. All right. Unbelievable. Yeah, you're the biggest bar for all of us. Yeah, thanks, guys. I heard that gobble hole came tonight. Thanks, William. You rock, man. You lose. Good day, sir. What is everyone's drink of choice tonight? Good day, sir. What is everyone's drink of choice tonight? So I came prepped with a vodka seltzer lime. I don't know. It's just very summery here in Chicago. I picked a Fanta. But it's 2019. You seem to choose an orange tonight. Yeah. Yeah, Fanta orange. You don't want to change it up. No, no. Go with what works, man. Strat. Strat. Strat. Strat. Yeah, Ken is warming up. Kaz, I wouldn't mind you sleeping on my couch. Problem is, dude, we will have like a two-week-old or a week-old at that point. Oh, yeah. Maybe Kaz can help with that, you know? He can get up and watch the baby when he's playing football at Expo 45 minutes away. Two, three, four, five, six in the morning. Yeah. I don't think that will be happening. I'm pretty sure the wife will vote that right off the island. Hey, Joe Fox. Come on, Joe. You're killing us, man. I appreciate it, but it's like overly nice from you. Oh, yeah. Thank you, man. Dude, he comes to town. We've got to buy him a dinner. Something. Keyword Games, I'm glad you noticed that save. Because before I could even celebrate the save on the right out lane, because I was feeling pretty good about myself, went right back down the right out. Right back where I saved it from, stuffed it right back in. That's what really pisses me off about pinball sometimes. Just when you think you did something that was above and beyond, it keeps you humble by shoving it right back down your throat. Absolutely. Yes, it does. Well, we're going to flip this the next game, dude. I want to go back to the first player. I was having better success. But that's okay. One game like that. Unreal. Anyhow. Kaz, thank you for the offer. I am sure the wife would not let that happen. If I can't make it to Expo, I'm hoping that one night I can have people over. So that would be like a very limited VIP kind of a list. Unless it's nice outside doing an outdoor party, but it's Chicago in October. So that's like a 50-50. Gosh. I think my vision's going, man. I need to get glasses. Yeah. I think this screen's getting hard to read. That sucks to say. I can't tell if it's the screen or if it's my eyes. Anyhow. David L. Dennis, he was bursting out all over the old man comment today that he heard on Twip. So Pink Quest is going to be at Expo giving away prizes for competing quests. So that's pretty cool. Nice. Listen, guys, I'm going to tell you what. If you haven't already gone, check out PinkQuest.com, download the app, and as this rolls out nationwide and more and more locations are participating, it's fun. This is the honest-to-God truth. It's changed the way in which we've been motivated to play pinball on the screen, so I can only imagine what it is on location. If you want to go play on location and be rewarded for things that you're doing, without having a grand champ a game. Because we all know how it is. I mean, a grand champ score on location is usually a pretty safe score if it's not a new game. You still are able to accumulate achievements and take down those pink quest challenges. That's all I'm doing right now. Absolutely. Marlon Delight. Your model of stream is best for me. After Hours is fun. Great interviews with the manufacturers. That episode on the gazebo was nice. Thank you, Marlon Delight. Oh, the gazebo episode. Ken's favorite. Fuck no. Love that one and tear that one down. That was the hardest stream to set up and the least amount of fun I had on the stream because I was bent. I had a blast. Zach, you have a blast? I had a blast, man. Unreal. Zach, he says pinball is always fun. I had a little less fun that one time. The Fowler half-dead stream. Right on. Jason was supposed to come. He was supposed to stream with us this evening. You know, man, that would have been a great time. It would have been a great time. He had a situation where he, because he owns his own business, he had some employees that were sick and he couldn't get out here. But the plan was to have him up here tonight, and that didn't work out. And then consequently, the actual string didn't go down tonight because of some more things that I had. And then we inadvertently bumped Dr. John and his daughter Emily from coming in and streaming with us. So the whole day became a mess. Part of the frustration of the day for me today. Nobody's fault, just a series of unfortunate events. But here we are. It's all good, man. Yeah, no, for sure. For sure. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah, Zach, you were pretty sure you were killing it for that night. Well, that was the birthplace of the call-in segment for the stream. It was. Because we were taking calls on Zach's business phone, and the phone was literally being held up to the microphone. Oh, my gosh. With that idea and that concept, we added a little production value to that to make it a little easier. That was an uber home kind of night right there. So Krista Pinter says he knows that no one's going for Mummy Creature. They score so well. All right, good to know. I will make the effort to do that. Well, he's in Mummy now. So we'll see if Bill blows up the game. This is like a Pavarelli bone kind of day. All right, so shoot the Creature. Hey, that's a good call. Easter egg. David O. Dennison on fire a little bit tonight. Freaking Papparelli. Freaking Papparelli. Ooh. Alright. Let's get that 50 mil this time. We're going to get 50. It's so early, guys. We're going to be streaming this Monster Bash. For those of you that didn't hear earlier, 24 hours straight of Monster Bash. So we're in phase one tonight. We're going to get our stretches in every hour, right? Bill will be leaving in 40 minutes. Bill's got the night shift on the stream. I would like to do a marathon stream, though. I think if we got enough people, we just kept the stream running, I think we could do 24 hours. I think we could. We could donate all bits to charity or something like that. Absolutely. Should we do it tonight? We'll come in three, four hours at a time. You want to run it? I'll call in an hour or two. We'll run this until 7 in the morning or 7 in the evening tomorrow. Yeah. My wife won't know I'm gone. We've got a big week. Call in. Call in. All right, let's do it. Is it me? I'm going straight to work. No problem. I like Ken's idea, though. I think we can honestly do a 24-hour stream. If we did, like, the three of us each doing eight hours apiece, maybe. Well, no. We'd have to get more guests in, you know, a couple hours each. Yeah. Attack it in teams. You know. Us three, maybe we could take, like, the night shift, the midnight to six in the morning. Yeah. Sounds awesome. Sorry, my buddy Kerry Hardy just threw a great question in. No, I like the Monsters, man. I really do. So, I like Monster Bash. In all honesty, I could see building one. I have to look under the slate. There's a little price difference there, though. Yeah. Well, yeah, there is. Because if you got a Monster Bash, would you go standard, classic, special, or LE? So, you'd go LE. Well, it doesn't have to be LE, but it would have to have that display. The special has the display. Yeah. So I think what you're missing on this is the... I don't need a topper. On the special is the topper and the plaque. Maybe a couple other things. I'm sure there's a couple other things. You know what? Yeah, I like the game. I still like my monsters, though, so that's not a big deal. Nice. Dave can be here any minute, it seems like. Stage D into 45. Zach can live edit. Oh, that'd be fun, man. Zach can do it. I mean, if we were by himself, that'd be fun. You could just keep your plan. Nobody would know. Nobody would really know. Somebody's not watching 24 hours a week. Start looping, like, after four hours. Oh, yeah. Not that I'm yawning now, some player. Bill can't even make it to 815. No. Central time. It's 2 o'clock in the morning by Mark. I think it's 2 o'clock in the morning in Bill's head. It is, dude. It is, man. That's the problem with waking up early, man. I couldn't stream for 24 hours. You know what happened? Within like three hours, I'm ready to go down the block and blow everybody up. Oh, man. I'm like, ah. Why? I'm like pretty upset. Because of the game? It's the game. Okay, so this is the thing. This is the thing with Monster Bash. It's not a hard game. You have to be disciplined playing it. It's not. Right. And what I'm not doing is I'm not controlling the ball, and I'm flailing, and I'm trying to keep the ball. No ball safe. There's no ball safe. I'm trying to keep the ball moving instead of just trapping up and making my shots. The problem is I was so off on my shots earlier that I'm just all over the place. So I need to settle down. This is why I'm not a competitive pinball player. Breathe a little bit. Have a couple sips of my beverage. And then try to get this under control. Kerry Hardy's got zingers for everybody. Everybody does. Yes, he does, man. Kerry should be the best pinball player of all of us. He keeps it real. No. He should be with the amount of smack talk the guy does. No, dude. I bet you could rebuild a pinball machine like none other. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. You've got something going as always. Yeah. All right, so I'm going to jump on even though Steve's out. Oh, yeah, that's fine. All right. I didn't even know where Steve went. You know, I've been playing this like I play Adam's family. Yeah. And that's why I'm doing halfway decent tonight. You know, like holding the ball and, you know, just trying to. Are you doing pretty well tonight, like score-wise? You're worse than me normally, yeah. Good job. Keep it up. Dave's going to bring the chicken and spice pin quest. Pinball, do you think the quest adds extra pressure, Ken? What were you scoring over the last few days about the quest? I put like six or seven games on Monster Bash before we streamed it tonight. And I had, I think the best score that I had was around 100 million. So no, the pin quest doesn't add pressure. I just know that I play better typically and it's not working out. Is it back to me now? It is back to you. Get ready for the shit show, ladies and gentlemen. We have 4 million points. Is this ball three? This is ball three. This is ball three. Hey, listen. I don't want to hear that, dude. The last game, I got 800,000 going into ball three. My four-year-old. 800,000 in ball three? Yeah. I do feel better. Yeah. I know you do. Oh, we all got to give BD a little boost, man. He's the Steve. What you all talking about? Talking about some chicken? Dude, I do suck. All right. I had to bounce out of that one. We don't play a lot, though. I mean, that's the problem, dude. The most we play is here. I know. And literally, my biggest thing is I tell the wife, listen, we're going. We're doing the podcast. We're doing chat. We're going to suck at pinball. Yeah. We're going to show people what not to do. You're not so funny. All right, sorry, guys. I'm getting caught up because a few messages came in. Yeah, I don't see the office as a pin either. Hey Chris, I would love to see Kerry do that Because I thought he caught a little backlash That was kind of jacked up On a previous post If you're talking about what I'm talking about Whoa Whoa David Dennis man Come on now, we don't need to be like that Dude, these paying quest challenges really make our Monday nights freaking awesome. Oh, yeah. Because otherwise, I mean, we're just, yeah, we're just streaming the game. Don't get me wrong, it's fun, but this makes it like, so we need to get to that 50 mil. It gives us the goal. Yeah. Yeah, the 50 million is the... 50 mil. See, now I've gotten the two modes started that I wanted to, and I had them stacked, and then, of course, I got to train. So that's okay, though. But you know what's going to happen is we're going to blow it up here in the next couple games. And it's early, guys. 8-18. Love that one, Zach. It's not late. That was good, man. Oh, geez. David Dennis is interesting. Okay. Monday Night Pinball. Head buzz high. Biddy's for Biddy. They had this game in the main bank. We'll address that, Joe. Yeah. It's Monday Night Pinball. Live from St. Charles. It's pinball on Monday night. I'm Al Michaels with Dan Dyrdor. Man, that was a good time, wasn't it? Al, Frank, and Dan. Good times. Joe Fox. You know what? Shit, man, I'll drink again. Joe Fox is the shamrocks. The luck of the shamrock for 100. Thank you, Joe Fox. That's a big old drink. Guys, I like it. Are you ready for some pinball? Now, if we could carry Underwood to sing the opening for Monday Night Pinball, then we've got something going on the other streams that they don't have. Actually, if you've got somebody that can sing a Monday Night Pinball song for us, because we'll open the stream with that. Yes. Zach's on it, dude. Zach's on it? He's on it. He's going to start working on it. All right. That's good. Let's do that. I'd like to collaborate with you because I've watched a lot of Monday Night Football in my days. Dave's going to use his Hollywood connections and he'll see what he can do for us. Oh, we'll have Pam Anderson and Carmen Electra here. No problem at all. They can be in the video. Yeah. They'd be outstanding. Do we find it hard carving out a Monday night each week? It's not that it's hard. I think it's sometimes life gets in the way and we have to switch the stream or sometimes we don't have a machine available for that Monday night stream. But all in all, it's been pretty smooth for Monday nights because we do our podcast. Myself and Bill Webb, we host a special win-lit pinball podcast. So if you don't listen to the podcast, you can find us anywhere on your favorite podcast catching app. We podcast before the stream, and then we roll right into the stream. We've got about a 15-minute break, so it's pretty cool. Yeah, Mondays. I really look forward to Mondays now, man. Not going to lie. Bill's got a ball going here. Yeah, Zach, you want to Skype yourself in every week? We could do that. Bill's playing my ball. So I had a ball going. Yeah, so it would be like we could actually very easily throw Skype into this in the next coming week, Zach, if you want to be live on screen. But you're going to need some type of interesting cheesy backdrop, man. Right? So you get a little mini in the corner there or something? Yeah, well, he can have a whole window. Where's Zach hanging out in the house? Because when we go live, I mean, this is where we're at. But, I mean, we could put Zach on the whole side. That'd be sweet. Yeah. For like after hours. Take your turn, though. Now you have to hit 50. Did you take Steve's turn? And you blew it up. Steve did great that last ball. Thanks, Bill. Mac Jedi, thank you so much, man. He says if you don't listen to their podcast, you're seriously missing out. I appreciate that. And same thing with this week in pinball. Listen, guys. The Twippies are coming up. Twippy voting is coming up. So if you think that we're doing a decent enough job on this Flip N Out Pinball streaming, channel, it'd be great if you considered your vote for best streaming channel, considering offering it to us. Obviously, vote whomever you believe deserves it. And if we get some votes and we're in the mention, I think that's pretty awesome. Same thing with the podcast. That'd be pretty awesome. That just got in my head. We don't need Zach on the side. Pacific trim. I can imagine Zach's probably actually sleeping. Is this a new game? He's just doing this. This is a new game. All in his head. Just started something. Sleeping, making phone calls, talking. Oh, yeah. He's doing this in his sleep. Because he's got to sleep or something. He probably just wears earbuds in his ear all the time. On a pinball parlor. All right. Just a bit outside on that one for our buddy Ken. Oh, did I turn it off? Technical, technical failure. Oh, my gosh. I turned it off. Are you kidding me? I don't know how that happened. I don't know, but you better be careful what you say next, because that could reflect on CGC for a power failure due to a power switch. Yeah, you know what the power failure was? The power failure was me reaching down and hitting the power switch. You want to start us off again? We're refreshing right now. For those of you that want to see how the game boots, this is good. We thought we were done with it. Look at that screen. I mean, that is great. Wow. You know what? It's pretty impressive. I'll tell you what, Zach, it felt pretty good. I told the game, listen, you're going to help me out, or I'm going to cut your life off from you as a pinball machine. You're going to have to restart now with a new attitude, and if you're going to be that brutal to me, you might get turned off again. Now, for the sake of the stream, I'm not going to do that again, but I'm pretty proud that I did it right now. You stand. I will punish myself, and let's reverse the order. We're going to reverse the order now? Yeah, absolutely, because I would never have done that if you guys had two balls up. But after the pep talk I gave myself mentally to have that just happen right now was not excusable. And anyway. They call that the old mini restart. At least if I was by myself, I could have waited for the second ball to kick into the lane and I could have held down the start button and started another game. For those of you that don't know that, on most pinball machines, if you have a bad first ball or even a second ball, after ball two starts, if you hold down the start button, it'll just start a brand new fresh game for you. I've done that several times in my pinball playing days. Oh, is it Ryan? Is that you, man? I am sorry. Don't give you a hard time. Get down on him. Is that Ryan from CGC? Oh, dude. Oh, no, no. Listen, the game didn't shut itself down. I shut it down. So I did a nice little refresh restart on that. That was totally on me. I needed a little talking, too. And actually, I'm glad that you said something, Bill, because I wouldn't have thought twice about it. Oh, yeah, no, the game did not shut down. Ken was just a little miffed at the first call. A little bit. That's it. I didn't have a great one either, but I don't want to give anyone else a hard time. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan White from CGC in the house. Again, thanks for lending us the game. It's been fun and rewarding, and it's also made me want to jump out of my window well, which doesn't really get me anywhere because I'm underground anyway. Ryan, great game, dude. Thank you, man, for letting us borrow this. Yeah. This is Ryan's personal show game. Actually, no. Oh, should we turn it off again? No, no. Everybody gets a mulligan tonight, so I took advantage of mine. No, we're good. Are you sure? I'm not sure. Yeah, it's all good, man. I have a good moment. Mary in the Light. Yes, it was a pin quest challenge to be the first one to set a game down on a stream. Ball in the Light. No, you know what? CGC's definitely prevalent. Yeah, I guess you don't hear about them as much, but, you know, they're definitely... You know what? They're doing their thing, man. They're making badass games. I'm in this one. This is starting to piss me off. Hey, good ball. Yeah. Glad you weren't player one that time. Obviously, I lost that before. Right, Zach? Yeah. Oh, well. Somebody in the manufacturer's talking. CGSB makes the games. And they're making them damn good. Yeah, well, the game just dropped the mic on me, literally. No, this is good. even though you have a couple shorter balls. Still a good time. Well, see, now that's a good point. Because where the game is, it's not difficult to shoot, but it can keep you honest for sure. No doubt. The objectives are simple enough to understand the rule set, but challenging enough for a seasoned player also. And I'm not speaking as somebody that's a seasoned player, but I can play some pinball. Bill rocking. Little Bill dance. Take the ball! Ozark72 says, I have a Monster Bash LE, and I'm wondering, have you leveled the game? Are the legs installed as they come? Mine had an issue hitting Dracula. The ball comes out of the right orbit, and it pops, whereas one doesn't seem to have that issue. I'm wondering if my game is leveling. I would absolutely level the game. You have to level a game. Yeah, every game you get should be leveled. And every game has to be tweaked. If something shoots out of a scoop and it's going straight down the middle, you can go in, you can go underneath the play field and kind of reposition that scoop, or you can bend some metal. Every game requires a little bit of tweaking. So good question, though. If you're having issues with it, you can reach out to your distributor or straight to CGC. They're great at communicating. So Geekworks Games says, I just think it wouldn't hurt to show a bit more of who they are. The games speak for themselves, but people want that connection also, especially in this niche hobby. Does everybody though? Yeah. Does everybody want that connection? Everybody. I do. I like to have a personal approach to a game. Sure. I like to know the stories behind it, the creators behind it, and what they were thinking. That's just me though. I was there at 72. Yeah, I was there at 72. I level it but it doesn seem to make a difference I tried the legs flat I tried the back legs way up You know contact your distributor and ask for some tips because I haven heard of any issues But you know what? Nothing would be more frustrating than a game that you don't think is playing properly. Honestly, it does sound like it could be a setup issue. If you want to email us, you can. You can email specialwindlitpinballpodcast at gmail.com. I'll get that email, and I'll be happy to work something out with you where we can try to get that game up and running. Ryan says, thanks. We're happy to keep support of our community and build high-quality games. That's Ryan White from CGC in chat tonight. Thank you, Ryan. Yeah. Dave Dennis says, there's an app to level his Tron. I think it's like Pin Leveler or Pin Leveler something. Yep. Now, the thing is, when you use those leveling apps, take the cover off of your phone. For sure. And make sure that you're leveling the pin with the glass off on the play field and not with the glass on. Lippin' on Pinball says, I'd like to see special inlets whip and straight down the middle. Reppin' from future CGC titles. Absolutely. I like the way that you're thinking. And then Ryan from CGC says that they are coming to more shows and they will be more involved. So you're going to potentially see a little bit more of the personal approach that CGC is taking. Hey, guys. You heard it here first. Yeah. There we go. Breaking news. I've invited Ryan on the podcast because Ryan is one of the best kept secrets in pinball. So I'd love to do a little Ryan White expose on Special When Lit as one of the figureheads for the company. Yeah, Ozerix72 again, SpecialWhenLitPinballPodcast at gmail.com. Reach out to me. Let me, because if I can't figure out what's going on, I'm happy to refer you to somebody that can. You'll be fine. or you can reach out to Ryan White at ChicagoGamingCompany.com because we have a setting where you can't do that. There you go. Ryan White at Chicago-Gaming.com. Chicago-Gaming.com. Hit that up. PinGuy. Okay, so Joe Fox, that's the app, PinGuy. The PinGuy app, at least for Android. I don't know if it's on iPhone or not. Apple, give the pin guy out. It doesn't mean it's not on there. I just don't have it. Slap save. Chris Haper's here. Oh, what up, Chris? Chris, if you're going to be sticking around for another 30 minutes, we could use a brick shot. It's been a while. Hope you're doing well, my friend. Haven't heard from you in a little bit. No, quiet. Dude, I mean, he's got that boat, man. It's been summer. I get it. Pacific Trend says, yeah, you really don't hear from CGC as much. Great that they're doing what they're doing, unless they do a Twilight Zone release, in which case I need to advance with the cell mine. Yeah, right, exactly. Twilight Zone would be an incredibly difficult machine to remake, I think, just from a bill of materials perspective and mechs and everything. But who knows, man? Sky's the limit these days. Hey, if people are willing to spend the money, you can get enough people, man. I don't see why you couldn't. Chris, the pin turn idea. At the Flip N Out Pinball Expo booth, we take the Flip N Out Pinball Streamers best scores and try to beat them at the booth for a small pin quest challenge. Oh, jeez. It's not going to be very challenging there, Chris. No, no. But I appreciate it. We should have 60 seconds with the glass off to put up our highest score. You guys can figure it out. Absolutely. You know what? One game I'll play, dude. Maybe not competitively, but I think I'm pretty good at his getaway, dude. I can rock a damn good game. If we get enough games under our belt with a machine, I mean, we're a lot more confident. Right now, we're just kind of. Or Adams. I can knock the spot out on Adams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be back pretty soon. Sooner than we are. All right. Hopefully, we're here than we think, but that's not the case. I'll be back in about 40 seconds. Ooh, Cullen. Cullen, it gets. No, this is all nonsense. Hey, you know what? We're having a good time, though. Nice. All right, Chrono861, man, thank you for joining us. Have a good night, all right? Yeah, take your easy, buddy. I don't know if he'll ever make that injury, though, man. Monster Bash is loaded. Yeah, I'm debating on making a trip down by you to see that. Circus Voltaire. I was listening about it today. Oh, man. I'd like a little Stevie. It is all about the fun, man, right? Right, Ziggy? Ziggy? Zach, yeah, man, we need to get together at your house, buddy. The good times. Yeah, right, up all night. Every shot in this game is very satisfying. until it comes straight down the middle. You know what? GeekWord Games, we shall smell Ken's hands when he comes down to make sure that he, you know, did the right thing up there. That's the ball, man. All right. I am Count Dracula, and you're not! Circus Voltaire trending up. No, please, not again! The crummy, the crummy dance. What the heck? Hey! Woo-hoo! Hey, come down. What's that? I went upstairs in, like, cocoon, transformed myself into a toddler, ran down the stairs, then ran back up there and turned back into my old self. I totally missed that. Did you miss it? No, yeah. What's going on down here? Let's go upstairs. Right. I'm like, what just happened? He's like, maybe I'll play better in this form. Oh, good times. Good times. Okay. LCD color DMD with smoothing. I do not like the smoothing. I don't like how it vectorizes the dots because you get jagged edges. I like the dots XL setting on the color DMDs, but that's just me. Pacific trim. I like the smoothing myself. I do have cinnamon soap in my house. Actually, no, I don't have cinnamon soap in my house. I didn't watch. Smells like pee. Smells like what happened? The inside of TNA. He's good. So Chris says he wishes that CGC would do something better with her speakers. So how so? Like the ornaments, the decor around the speakers type of thing? I like the... David also likes the Dots XL. Yeah. Okay. He does like the large screens. I love the large screens. T. Keith Pinball also agrees with me. All right. Dave Fogren says, I have Fritos soap upstairs, so if your hands don't smell like Fritos, then you probably didn't wash them in a bowl of chips. Good idea. That's right. That's the way to go. Flip N Out Pinball now. He says he's taking names for the upcoming Medieval Madness run, and the run will be small, so if you want to get on the list, you can contact Zach at FlippinOutPinball.com. And I think you will see that run of, small run of Medieval Madness sooner than later, so if you've been waiting. Medieval Madness is one of those games where those LEs sold out, like they've retained their value. They're not really depreciating. So get one if you can. it says the finish seems half baked on the uh i guess the speaker trim specific trim says seems like uh with lcd you have the option of both versus led yeah right so the led is individual led so you don't have that lcd ability to smooth or vectorize graphics you can turn it up or down use the brightness right lcd you have quite a bit of quite a bit of options Dave Fogren's got a pro tip for those of you that frequent the gentleman's clubs read that current chat Chris says his attack from Mars alley speaker panel looks bare sounds like you need a speaker panel mod or something yeah I have an attack from Mars SE never thought that So, Kosta, is an official word on medieval madness with a large screen. They were picks of one testing a year ago. Any official word yet? I bet you would see something like that as an add-on at some point. I know CGC said that it will be available. I don't know that you ever see the medieval madnesses come with that stock or not, but it's cool to know that at least you can add on to that if that's what they end up doing. Oh, hey, Bill. A little upset there. How's it feel? I've been like that all night. All right. Oh, we broke 50 mil. Did you get 50 mil? All right. Bill broke 50 mil. All right. So if we look at the pin quest challenges for tonight, start Frankenstein multiball. We completed for 500 bits. Score 50 million points. Bill just did that for us right now. That's 500 bits. 100 million still outstanding for 500 bits. Start monster pit multiball. We did nail that for 500 bits. And start monster bash, which we did not do. So we've got two outstanding, 100 million points and monster bash. Now, coincidentally, I would assume that if you do start Monster Bash, you will almost by default get that 100 million points. So let's make that our focus right now tonight. As if we weren't trying to do that the first time. But, hey, nicely done there, Bill. Dude, I think I just needed the creature. In there with 10 bits? Thank you. I think I just needed the creature, dude, and then I could have gone for Monster Bash. And I had the extra ball. That's a little upset. That's all right. How's Lantern? Thank you for the follow. A couple minutes ago. Sorry I didn't catch it on the fly there, but we really do appreciate that so very much. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So we got... Hey, you have a 10 ball? I have a little 10 ball. There you go. So we got how many of the 10 plus challenges this evening, then? So we have three out of the five. Okay. So we've accumulated 1,500 bits. Okay. What turn is it now? You are up, my friend. Is this ball three? I forget. My first two balls have been so... Yeah. Past the side. Hey, listen. My first ball, dude. I think I went into ball three with two million. So you're saying there's a chance. Just a chance. Yeah. Wow, Chris trying to unload a Star Trek LE. Flip N Out Pinball classified. No kidding, man. You might have to capitalize on that. Brian, you guys did a great job, man. I really, really, I've never had a good opportunity to play a Monster Bash remake. And this is the first time I really had time and a really clean machine to get on it, man. And I'm kind of in on it. Absolutely good. Kind of sucks because now I've got to find something to sell. You know what? Bill, who's going to get one first? Oh. Oh. I don't want to sell anything either. Yeah, that's the problem. But I do want to mount Bass. Yeah, that is a darn good game. I'd probably go with Esty. Oh, man, that topper, though. We don't have the topper on this one. I don't need the topper. I just like the black and white screen, man. The topper. And the text from Earth topper. Hey, Ryan, if you stay in here, dude, you can't add the screen after the fact, right? The giant screen? The giant screen? What are you talking about? The XL DMD. Versus what? You can't buy a standard and upgrade the screen to the XL screen, right? All right. All right, thanks, Zach, for that clarification. Yeah, right now you cannot do that. You cannot. Okay. You will, and AT&T is going to bring it to you. That's my old school commercial reference. Do you need to turn the machine off, Bill? Are you sure? All right. Let's see who can do worse. All right, let's go. I feel pretty warmed up at this point. I think we're five games in. I'm ready for 100 million points. Uh-oh. Oh, it's being brutal to you guys right now. But with bonus. Oh, you beat me out. Nice. Wow. Ouch! Alright, thanks Ryan for clarifying that. Alright Chris, hey dude, be kind man, we're just learning this game a little bit. So how do you start creature? Just shoot creature by something like this? I don't know, why don't you ask your buddy Chris who's yelling at us. That's what I'm saying. Hey, my buddy, he's yelling at us, dude. I mean, he should have put in a summation. So, Chris, I don't know if you were here early, but neither of us three have much time on the original Monster Bash or the remake. So, I honestly don't know the entire rule set. Yeah, no, I understand how to get the multiball for that, Josh. But what I'm trying to do is, well, one, I'm trying to stay live for longer than 15 seconds for whatever reason. We're off tonight. But I'm trying to just about start all the modes and then get into Frankenstein multiball and then try to blow up with stacking and then get into a little wizard mode action. I'm trying to make Trey feel better about his games. And if he looks at the scoreboard, he should feel pretty darn good. I'm going to do the spinner six times and then scoop. We'll see what happens. All right. Is that what it is? And again, we look at the pin challenges for the evening. We did hit the start to Frankenstein multiball for the 500 bits. We scored the 50 million for 500 bits. We're still going for 100 million points for that 500. We did start MonsterBash at multiball earlier for 500 bits, and MonsterBash is still open for 500 bits. So we still have 1,000 bits that are out there, and we've got some time to take down the objectives. So I'm feeling confident. I'm feeling pretty good. Good times, guys. Good times. I wish I would have got that extra ball, dude, on the one game, but that's all right. No? No, it's okay. It's all about being close. It's all about having that one more game feeling, right? Like just one more game, one more game, one more game. Ah, Chris, no, man, dude, we know you're messing up. I'm just giving you a hard time back, man. I'll get it. Does anyone realize you guys are not playing, well, the best part of the show? It's like watching Hoarders when the house is in a mess. Makes me feel better about myself. Yes. We are a feel-good stream. We don't ever... We are a feel-good stream. After watching, to know that they've got something to do for in life. Oh, yeah. Hey, you know what? October Fest is definitely that way. Dave, going back, I may not play good pinball, but I got a clean garage. I got that going for me. So Neil's adding like a counter offer of having special punishments if minimum scores aren't met. I could deal with that. That's where the stress starts getting involved. That's like competitive pinball. He's going to start taking all these bits back, and that's going to be like, you didn't hit this, you didn't hit this. What was this withdrawal account out of my bid account? What is this? Ah, good times. That's right. Flip N Out Pinball Screen Champ. Your feel-good stream. There you go. Nice. That should be the motto, Zach. The feel-good stream. Anyone agree with me about the headphone jacks? And I missed the original comment on that Did you catch that, Bill? Oh, yeah, it should come with a headphone jack I don't know that I would ever use the headphone jack Ever I haven't yet, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't Because this is the thing You put your headphones on It's not like you're going to be playing in your bedroom The sound of the machine is almost loud enough To kind of keep you Is it me? Like the flippers and the mechs and everything else is pretty loud. Oh, yeah. But I can see where, like, if you really want to focus in and get that full musical score, like, in that whole... I just have never played with headphones on. Me, nor have I. Let's try it. I know I can do it on Wizard of Oz. There you go. Yeah, we'll have to give that a shot. All right, sorry, guys. Just getting caught up. Shampoo is a favorite. Oktoberfest is definitely one more kind of a game. All right, Orbitz and Creature are safer. I think these graphics are sharp, too. Feel good streaming. I'm sorry. I'm just getting caught up. That's all right. By the way, I thought I ripped the spinner six times, and then I got into some multiple mode that I hadn't seen yet. Yeah. Madness. So that was cool. Marion, thank you very much, man. We definitely enjoy doing this every Monday. And, yeah. I mean, as long as Zach and Cole keep enjoying it and like what we're doing, we'll keep doing it. So I don't see that ending any time soon. DJ, yes, yes, Dave. Actually, my garage is clean as a whistle right now, so I'm kind of happy about that. Dude, your garage is always clean. No, it's uber clean. So Neil says, it's so you can hear when you're on location. But I also think it's if you're playing pinball in your house and you want to keep it quiet. See, I go downstairs at like 10 o'clock, and it's far enough away that the wife doesn't come down screaming. You know, I think that just the flippers and the mechs are probably going to be louder than, you know. The music? Yeah. I mean, what travels more through your house? You might want to immerse yourself. Yeah, for sure. For sure. You know what? Okay, that makes complete sense. Yeah, you know, if you don't hear that great, those would definitely be awesome. And I could see them being implemented at some point. I don't think it would be too tough. I mean, it's probably like a $5 or $10 add-on for them to do that. Can't be that crazy. So I think I just got Monster Madness, then. Like one underground, and they showed all the monsters, and shoot all this shit. What? How do you get Monster Madness? No, not Monster Madness. Oh. Maybe after everything's done, though. No. So what you ended up getting was Mosh Pit Multiplier. Okay. So Bill already killed that, though. Right. So that's where he is. Yeah. No, that was a good time. Okay. All right. So I just did that for no reason. One can dream. I did that for no reason. You know what else is pretty challenging for me, I guess, too, is like so when I'm playing by myself in a pinball machine in the basement. That sounds pathetic, but it's what we are. I'm playing pinball by myself in the basement, right? So, like, I'm playing solo, so my turns are back to back to back. Yeah. So, like, if I miss a shot and that shot comes up again 20 seconds later, I can make the adjustment on the fly. But when you're cycling players in, now you've got that downtime to where you're not as... Sharp. Well, yeah, right. You're not as sharp. You can't make that adjustment on the fly. You can, but for me, it's still like a dial-in period. If you can set that... If you can break records and you're playing a multiplayer game... I need a K-Quest feedback. Yeah, that's a darn good name. I need a PinQuest floor mat that I can bite the corner off of right now because I'm a little flustered. I'm not going to lie. Tiki Pinball. I'll have to try that with the Wizard of Oz headphone jack, man. I haven't tried that yet. I know it works because my daughter killed the volume on it one day, and I'm like, what's going on here? Ow. Oh, man. DTM right there. Yeah, has anyone reached Monsters of Rock that has this game? Pacific Tri-Air. Hey, thanks for watching, brother. Appreciate it. Good ball, bro. Yeah, Dave, I don't have that problem. You don't get too pissy about it. You want to pay some bills and enroll us after, or do you want to do one more game? Oh, we're going to go another game because I always had my best game on my last game. And that's how we knocked the Wonka Stream pin quest out of the park. We're going to do that. Everybody's leaving? No. Well, I can leave now or we can do it after the next game. We're going to pause for station identification on the Flip N Out Pinball. I will use that now. There you go, boy. We're back on Solo. Wow, I've been waiting all night to do this. I could probably get two or three one-player games in at this point why these guys go upstairs and check the oil. Anyhow, as we go into chat here, guys, what's the best feeling shit so far? Spinner? Oh, you're not too far off as far as the colorful metaphors to explain the gaming. I'm assuming you said shot. And the best feeling shot right now for me is the spinner is always satisfying on the shot for sure. Absolutely shot. It's such a good feeling to reach Monsters of Rock. Keep going. We're going to keep going. And we're going to play this for a little bit more for sure. And, again, I want to thank Ryan White from CGC, that's Chicago Gaming Company, the manufacturer of this Monster Bash LE remake, for lending this to us tonight to play on the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. Always a good time. Kaz is talking to David Dennis. I love it, guys. Left ramp. Left ramp's pretty good, man. The left ramp is one of those shots that are – it's not an obvious presented shot when you walk up to the pinball machine, So you have to really know that there's a ramp there because it's hidden with the stacked amount of playfield toys, which I do kind of enjoy that. Kyle says he has fun hitting the creature shot. I do too, man. And that's one of those shots where if you trap up on that right flipper, you should be able to nail that shot every single time. You can feed it back to the left flipper. You can kind of give yourself a little bit of a feed and backhand that shot all day long. I'm not having any success doing that tonight, but the first few games I picked it up pretty quick, and I had no problem. Tiki Pinball agrees. Left ramp. Good times. So what are your thoughts right now on Monster Bash, Steve? Can you see this in your game room at some point? Yeah, very much so. Yeah? All right. Yeah, it's a – Hey, nicely said. I'll have a good ball, and then I'll have, you know, 10 bad balls. But, dude, I mean, it shoots great. It's a fun pin. It's a fun pin. There's a lot going on. We're not doing the liability justice. It's gorgeous. It sounds great. The light show's incredible on this one. The light show is amazing. And the cool thing, I think, in the code here is if you're not a fan of a lot of the RGB and you wanted something that looks a little more original, you can go into the settings and you can turn off, I think, the RGB lighting and you can just kind of play the game as it was originally intended. Oh, I was unaware of that. Yes. Now, my thought process on that is why not take advantage of ingenuity and technology and evolution. Because that looks absolutely gorgeous. Because I do love the light show. And that's why tonight we are intentionally not adding too much additional lighting as far as, like, ambient lighting to illuminate the play field because the light show is so beautiful. All right, ready? I think for Bill and both, Bill and myself, I think we're both kind of looking. All right, Chris has offered the 10-bit challenge to complete the creature. So that's what I'll be going for tonight. All right. And Chris is going to donate 10 bits to the stream for that. I'm going to hold you to it. Geekward Games is thinking that, Bill, you need to get a monster bash and let the monsters go bye-bye. Hi. Oh. All right, so Bill is utilizing his mulligan. We've got a power issue here, guys. No, there's no power issue. I put my name, and I hear a question. I can't focus on the game. Well, turn it on. And right now I'm on a mission to hit this 100 million. Mulligan. 100 million or bust. Yeah, Bill's coming the closest to 100 mil, So we don't want to screw Bill on this potential. Don't mention his name. Don't talk or breathe. No, I just, here, I heard you guys talking and I wanted to respond. So you drained your ball intentionally and turned off the machine. No, I drained and it pissed me off. Okay, I got you. I was just making sure. I literally got focusing on the game. Right. So GeekWord Games thinks I should dump Munsters to get this. Yeah. I don't know about that. Munsters is a good game. I wanted Munsters for a while. Since we played it in January, dude, I wanted a Munster. Rocket, right? Absolutely. I will say this. I would absolutely build one of these from scratch, I think, if I could find the parts to do the play field. This might be the game that I start to build from scratch off a WPC platform. A WPC 95. No way, man. I'm buying the remake all day. That would be a pretty huge undertaking. Time is money. Money is time. That'd be a lot of podcast updates on the Monster Bash build. It'd be like a half an hour. Half an hour segment for each? Yeah. A lot of segments. I know. People have done it, though. All right. Knockers are the stern screech noise for pregame. I cannot stand the stern screech noise. Knockers, baby. You need to go with the knocker. 100%. We did that on a drainer, David. Yeah. There's nothing beats a knocker. It's like startling, but in a not good way. The knocker. I literally had people say there's something wrong with their game because every so often they're playing it, it makes the audio go off. And that goes all the way back to the Segas. I mean, that's been there for a long time. Yeah. Chris, Haper's going to drain rebooting the game due to a bad first ball, Ken. Yeah, well, hey, that's good, man. I save it. I think you get one of those a night. That's your mulligan. I still get one. Golf is another sport that I like to play that I'm not very good at. And I do allow myself a mulligan on the front nine, a mulligan on the back nine. But other than that, you can't move. Steve's about to use his mulligan. Well, yeah, but you can't mulligan. You can't do it if there's someone walking before you. Yeah. You have to be player one. Yeah. And honestly, I don't think we'll ever do this again, though. 203. Many, many, many. All right, so I'm going for Creech here, right? Yeah, Creech. All right. There we go. Thank you, Sling. Lucky boy. A white windowless van. That kind of sounds like a flipping out pinball van almost. Oh, wait, no, it's not. I'm sorry. I was reading up. Oh, you're a little higher. Ch-ch-ch-chat. Ch-ch-ch-chat. Yep, they sell those out of a white windowless van. Oh, my gosh, I can't get to the damn creek. All right. All right on. Ryan says, knocker support is coming from Monster Bash. Nice. the one that we are using and currently has it. Nice. Yeah, I think this is on the wish list. Which is kind of funny because I was thinking about this the other day. There's only a handful of games that I want now. So I've had a good collection of stuff. Now throw it on our list now, right? Actually on the list. That's kind of high up for me. When this first came out, before I even played it, I think I played it a couple games at Expo and I was like, oh my gosh. I'm getting one of those. At Expo, there was always a line on it. There was. And I played one a long time ago. You feel pressured. A friend of ours. But that was, like, such a poor example of it. Sure. And such a dimly lit game. Dude, that ball turned out so... Yeah. Original. Yeah. Yeah. Like a routed game. So... Yep. Yeah, dude. I've been on one of these. The Web Cromwell Sandwich. Oh, yeah, baby. This is where I want to be. A menu mulligan. No, a power mulligan. No, there's a knocker on this game. There's not a knocker on Stern games. So, no, Ryan was saying... We did hear the knocker on this game tonight. But this game has the knocker. Right. And Monster Bash remakes don't have knockers, but they're going to offer support for it. But I'm saying on this particular show game, we did hear the knocker time. So that's pretty awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. Did you get your creature, bro? No, man. I've got one more shot to start them, and then I'm going to take them down. I've got to take them down over the course of three or four games. So is that creature mode? Is that all that left shot, all that creature shot? No, Josh, what we were just saying is that the Monster Bash LEs, Valley or Montsouvest, they don't come with a knocker, but there's knocker support. And this one is a show game, and it has a knocker installed, and it works. So that's where the discrepancy is there. I'm blown away that this is a show game. Yeah, no, it's pristine. It really does. Now, Ryan was saying they change the play field out every six hours. So they don't do that. Original play field. It looks great. Thank you, Chris. All right. Creatures on my list. Yeah, no worries, man. We did get the knocker going, Fulgren. It was a replay for scoring. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Good call. Still good times. Good snaps. I don't know if there's Mylar pre-installed in this game or not. and I honestly haven't paid attention to it. Have you completed your Drac attack mode, your five shots? Me? Yeah. Drac hasn't even come out of the coffin for me tonight because I haven't been focusing on him. I've been trying to focus on stacking modes and start a multiball to kind of blow the game off and end it early, and it's just the wrong approach because I haven't found my shots all night. I just need to concentrate on going mode by mode and doing it that way. That's what I really have to do. And if not this game, the next game, that's something, because now this game, I'm trying to earn 10 bits from Chris the pin turn by trying to complete the Creech mode. You know how it goes. Does it start the Creech or complete the Creech? Complete the Creech. I'll complete them. Not worried about that. Actually, I'm worried about a lot of stuff. I'm worried for you, bud. Thanks, man. All right. You know what? I'll do Creech, too. Well, somebody needs to go for the points. Well, yeah, that's a good point. I think we've got Bill on points right now. It would be a huge night for Bill if he was able to get the 50 and 100 million bits. It would be a huge night. Pin quest tonight. It would be one of his best fairings. Now he's rocking out. He's shaking his head. He's getting ready. I think it's the music kind of set the tone for Bill. Now he knows he's got some multiball action going on here. Does he have multiball? So Ryan says there's no Mylar on this one. No Mylar on this one. He does the multiple. Oh, man. These games hold up very well. Yeah, no, it looks great. Yep, a little multiple going on. Geekward Games, thanks for stopping in, man. It's always good having you in chat. Have a good night. Relax. Dream of Monster Bad. There's your knock, buddy. There's the knocker, guys. Did you hear it? All right, focus on Wolfman and Creature before your multiball. All right. I think it tracks on me. Nice job, man. Thank you. Ooh-wee. Is that you or me now? I totally forget. Is it? All right, so you're at $42 million on ball two, right? Yeah. So you've got a potential chance here to hit the $100 million. You only need $58 million more on one ball. Just $58 million. Which in the grand scheme of things, it's not a difficult thing. It's not something that's out of the question to do. No, it's not. It's just we are not warmed up to this pin as much. We're going to have to stream it for four or five more weeks. No, I like it, though, man. This is one that's going to have to make its appearance at my house. No, Brian, he did not hit his ring on the cabinet. That was a knocker. No rings. It's dented into the side of the cabinet. I have no rings either. Yeah. Just so Ryan knows, we're ringless tonight. We're bachelors in the Special Inlet Studio A. Yes, we are. Sky's the limit for us tonight. Hey, Joe Fox. Joe Fox. What are you doing, man? Thank you. Joe Fox is the man. Joe, you make it to Chicago, dude. I'm taking you for, like, the best. He's going to Chicago Cut, like, every night he's here. Dude, we're going for a burrito? Or we'll do a... I was saying Chicago Cut, and you're taking on Taco Bell? Dude, I'm just kidding. I'm joking. I'm going up some rib eyes. I'm joking. I'm kidding. Joe, we're going to do some awesome steak from there to Pastora Place. Oh, that's right. Then a rice and beans place. I've been telling Steve about this Bermuda Triangle of perfection. You know what? I've only been to one of the points. Okay, and how is point one? Point one was, hmm. Okay. All right. Even the wife likes it. Oh, hell no, Paco. That one ain't fine. No. Who chose this simple man? Come on, man. I'll grill some steaks. And this drywall repair is brought to you by... It's going to be brought to you by CGC. Because they're going to have to remake my drywall. I'm having an issue with just getting anything going tonight. I'm so frustrated. That's from Slayer. That's from Slayer. Back in the house. Hey, cheers. Thank you, man. Cheers. For every thousand bits, we chug our stuff, right? Yeah, for sure. Okay. Thank you, buddy. That was very, very nice. I appreciate it. Hell yeah. Ryan wants to know if I can stream Thursday. Now, normally, Ryan, I would absolutely say yes, but because I'm trying to keep my figure, I am part of a 30 and over softball league. Actually, you know what? There's no game. I'm hosting a pinball night for our pinball club on Thursday night. So I don't know how that would work out. I think these guys, because we haven't connected with these guys in months. Yeah. So I don't know that streaming is going to be the ideal way to do that because these guys, I mean, we just haven't gotten together. But I do want to stream the game again. You know, whatever reason, if it's not on Flip N Out Pinball, we have our Special Win Lit channel that's just kind of parked. Maybe we can stream it on Spectral and Lint. Taco Bell, the nature's draining. Right. How long is this game available for us to stream? Is this something that I'm dropping back off of CGC like tomorrow morning, or how does that work? Gibson's would be a good place to go, too, though. We're taking Joe somewhere. Absolutely. We've got to have Portillo's. It's got to be one of the meals of the day. Joe Fox, when is the next time that you plan on being in Chicago? Because if you're coming in, let's figure it out. Yeah, we'll plan something up. Ryan, do you want to come in here and stream this game with us? And jump on the mics for after hours? Joe, you're going to be in here tomorrow in Chicago. Let's do it Let's make it work Do it Hey Joe Fox is going to be in town tomorrow Really? I just said tomorrow Question mark Or is he talking about Oh Do it I don't know He's LOLing now I'm not really sure I was just about to tell the wife man We got plans tomorrow Sorry I don't see how I didn't score any more Oh I scored four million Two balls Whatever Yeah, Portillo's is pretty good Redhead Rambler says, oh man, I have Portillo's So excited he can't finish up the sentence You gotta go to Johnny's Beef, man Bring the wife, Beatty's paying My machine's that Steve Beatty's bringing out of his house Steve's a good dude Yeah, I don't know Joe, let's plan something, let's get you out here Let's fly you on the Special Enlick Concord We picked up one of those used pretty cheap Concord has been grounded since 2003 That's why we got it so cheap FYI We'll have you here in about 29 minutes From the east coast And just have to have you sign A little waiver and release Yeah I'm getting a call here And I don't know who it's from It's a 312 area code though Which is Chicago It's probably the pilot asking if you should fuel up the Concorde This creature Ken, you have one shot left for creature I had two, and I totally failed Thanks, Chris Oh, Congo, that was a good stream That was a good night, man That was a lot of drinking, dude That was a lot of drinking that night I think I'm still recovering I doubt that And our porch night here, our gazebo night Gazebo night was a good night I'm recovering from this entire Europe streaming. Well, no, you're good. You're still recovering from Europe, dude. That's really what you're recovering from. No, Europe was... Too much shit going on in Europe. Really? Yeah, it'll be... I don't know Amy. Amy is my friend. That's Congo. Ah, okay. Amy. That's our... All right, Ryan says pick your night in, dude. You're down, man. Now, what's Ryan down for? He's down for what? For coming to stream? Coming to visit, maybe. Coming to stream, I don't know. All right. Well, let's do this. After we get off the stream tonight, let's talk tomorrow. Let's get a night in, and let's say we come in and stream Monster Bash. We either do it on Flip N Out Pinball or we do it on Special One Lit, but we'll stream it. 220, 221. Chris? Chris, the pin turn. I started Creech. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate it, man. I really started it. It ended really quickly, didn't it? I think we've got to go one more. Let's do it. If we do, then I can't stay for the after. Redhead Rambler has followed. Thank you, Redhead Rambler. Let's do a two-player game, then. Dude, I'm getting a little pissed. I know that I can play this machine better because I did it yesterday. I'm having the worst games I've had on this and it's not like performance anxiety or anything like that I don't know what it is you're taking too long between your turn I mean everybody has to you want to go to a quick two player game it's not going to take longer than four and a half minutes I can do it I want to play three players if it's either or I've got to bolt at 9.30 we're shutting the stream down at 10 anyways let's do it I'll donate $100 to Special Unlit if someone on the next game gets $100 million. Oh, snap. Just fell into my trap. All right. All right, let's go. All right, you want me to start? No, I do want you to start. All right. Because this is where I shine. Batten cleanup. Bottom of the ninth. Money on the line. This is where I monster bash it up. Ken Cromwell. This is where I collect all the monsters, all of the instruments. And I'm going to predict a 178 million score for myself right now. Nice. Chris the Pinscher. All right. Minus 400 bits if someone gets 75,000. If you don't, it's Malort. Well, I would hope that we get 75,000. I like the Malort. Get 75,000 on it. The Malort was a good deterrent for being bad. It was absolutely negative reinforcement. Who came in third place? You took a shot at Malort. Right. That was... No. That was our version of Pavlov's classical conditioning. It's like you knew that if you performed horribly, you had to take them to Lort. Your body just didn't allow you to perform horribly. I've never seen Bill try so hard at pinball. Now Bill's in his crouch stance, but don't say his name. Because if you say his name, he's going to have to turn the machine off because he can't be. Burrito! Burrito Bill! I don't know how he heard that, ladies and gentlemen. He's got the hearing of a bat right now as he's focused in on Monster Bash. Let's do a little Kinberg recap here. Bill Graff singing the radio today as he's going ahead trying to capitalize on the Monster Bash segment and what's going on with not only Pin Quest but a side bet now. A wager that's been offered by Flip N Out Pinball. Bill's been in a lefty stance all night long, but he's switched out of Southpaw to go back into his regular stance, his competitive pinball stance, the stance in which has won him when he goes throughout the United States. Now he plays for cash. Now he plays for glory. Just a bit outside. Tried the corner and missed. Hey, it was good, dude. Not really. You're fine. You're fine. Oh, Chris the pin turn. With another 10 bets. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Yeah. So Josh is saying if you start mummying werewolves together, you don't have to worry about the orbit shot. I'm going to scream back at you. These are all good in theory. Ryan, you're out. All right, Ryan. I think we're good. Yeah, that's cool, man. Go get some sleep, and then I'll announce the winner for this Monster Bash pinball machine, and I'll send you the address tomorrow, Ryan, when you get up, and then we'll bundle it up for STI. And don't be worried if it's an address in St. Charles. I'm sure it was not rigged. At least we have the brains and the looks on the mics. So bad. I felt a little bad for everybody involved in that whole thing. Hey, dude. All right. David, I love that. Thank you, Ryan, for letting us stream Monster Bash. Cinderella story. There's a hole. Love the candy shack reference, man. Take care, Ryan. Yeah, this was a great game. Thanks, Ryan, for letting us snag this. All right. Ken's on a mission. Ken really wants to mulligan. Zach. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Oh, shit. Hey, you guys know that usually whenever you're playing pinball, it comes down to one ball. I'm hoping that it's ball two or three for me because I'll tell you what. Did ball one even register a point? Am I even on the D&D at this point? 100,000. Is it like 970 points? Might have been the all-time. I just don't get it. I just don't get it. Like they're straight down the middle. Hey-o. I don't get it. Bill's the man of the night. Bill's got a feel for the game for sure. Yeah, yeah. Valtry's always Dave Fogren's jam and jobbers, letting Zach know that if he brings the U-Haul, I've agreed to let him take out the surplus of pins here. Are you feeling pressure right now a little bit or no? A little bit. Because, dude, normally you're the one that bails us out at the end of the night. Guys, I'm off tonight. I don't know what it is. I'm just not having a good night. I've got kids coming downstairs. I've got like a... It's just a stressful day for me. Steve and I are trying to step to the plate to bail you out for once, man. No, you're doing good. Well, Bill, I mean, hats off to you. Because let's go ahead, again, we look at the pin quest challenges tonight. That 50 million point mark was something that you hit for us tonight, right? Yeah. So, I mean, that's you. Which, let's be honest, that never happens, dude. I am never the highest scorer on the game. I know we're all better pinball players, but you know what? Unless you can show it in the public, you can be anything you want privately. It's like, you know, it is what it is. It is what it is. Dude, this game is just all about control. And honestly, what screwed me up was those damn flashers again. That's all right. Oh, the flashers are? Yeah, they got me. I'm tired. Well, we've got a whole after-hour segment going to midnight. I mean, you and Steve have a whole after hours. I'll stick around a little bit. Only because I want to hear a brick shot. Now, Zach has now offered $200 if someone hits $100 million. He's doubling down because now there's a ball out of the equation. Zach, I'm doing my stretches. I'm just baiting him until he says that he'll get me a Jurassic Park Pro if I get $100 million. Then all of a sudden, oh! Oh, this game's a lot easier. Oh, goodbye, Dracula. Goodbye, creep. One billion on Monsterbeck. Two hundred on the line. And it was on stream the other night. Zach, I couldn't even let you do that, buddy, because I think everybody here split up $200 for the lack of pinball play on my part tonight. Not very good. Not my best effort. But if there's one thing that we can do, is redeem ourselves during a little after hour. We can. You know what I mean? And I don't know how that's going to happen. Hey, I've had a great time tonight. Hopefully everybody in chat has. I'm always having a good time. Oh, my gosh. Are you close? How many mils? No. I'm not close. Shit. What? 195,000 steps. How about us three combined? I don't even know if we can. Yeah, no, it's not combined. Just like me. Yeah. Oh, it's happening. Oh, yeah. I know. 100 mil. I don't know. I'm trying. That guy starts getting caught up on chat. Yeah, he did pretty good on that last one. He's beating me out now. Stern Dumpster is on the lockdown. Yes, the Stern Dumpster is on the lockdown. There's no pulling anything out of Stern Dumpster. None. There is no chance. That is a solid, that is a hard no on that. Not that we tried or I made people drive around that night. No, we don't. No. We don't have experience in knowing why. Is Stern Dumpster? No. That's honestly locked up. Ken's got something going on. Oh, he got their little extra ball. That helps. You need like five more of those right now. Yeah, you need like a 10-ball game for the 100-ball game. And some luck You know I think for you and I I think Ken has a better grasp of the rules I just keeping the ball alive for the most part You've got to hit the shots five times. You've got to shoot in what's lit. So each shot. Yeah, like each shot you've got to hit five times. You've got to make like five of the ramps, five of this, five of that. And that's when you unlock stuff. So That's a good point Yeah, that's why I've been kind of Starting off a certain way Rants and the size, you know Frankenstein to me is just During a stop chain away from the very end I feel like I've hit Frankenstein More than five times I'm not going to hit that guy anymore Because it's dangerous But little do I know Uh oh All right, sorry. Zach's wall is sweating, he says, Ken. Oh, the old limerick. Damn, that was intense playing for six mil, Ken. Holy shit, I thought you had it, buddy. I thought you had it. Your leg was up in the air. But I set myself up for 94 million points on ball three. That's the most important thing. It was setting the table. Bye, Kaz. Thanks for coming in, man. Always good to hear from you. All right, Kaz. Thanks for the free bets. Always good to hear. Doesn't like walking out and throwing free bets, dude. I really love it. Itty bitty. I appreciate it, man. Zach has now gone $300 for one million points. Or 100 million points. times three alright you know what Zach you're going to owe Bill some money here because Bill's the guy the guy who should show up it's going to be Bill it is now don't mention his name because I get furious while he's playing his perforinos are $100 that being said He was in a multiple. And I don't really know how it's going to pan out. Money will go to special men. All right. I think this is what I need to do. He heard you. Sure did. Repeat. What's that? Extra ball. Hell yeah. We're still alive. One garlic in the house. Yeah, Pinter is expecting to see Ryan from CGC do a stream. Doesn't look like Jim Halpert at the camera watching these fellas. Yeah, that's right, man. Hey, Jack, how long does this bet stay on the table? Just this game? This is it. This is it. This is a 24-hour stream. Phil's got to go home in like nine minutes. He can probably get three more games in. I am bringing up the rear here, though. I am bringing up the rear here. I got a little surprise for everybody on ball three. Dave Fogart says, Hey, Steve, it's $13,000 for you to get one million points right now on this ball. To get what? God damn it. $13,000. For a million points? I don't know. Oh, yeah. Dude. For $10,000, I will focus on that. Well, you know what? That was my ball three. I know. All he was telling me, I looked. Why do you think I get pissed at you guys? I don't get pissed. I don't give a shit. Bill got this question. Blah, blah, blah. He could have texted it to me, and I could have read it. One million dollars. With him saying it out loud. Good shit, guys. That was a great game, though. Loving the chat tonight. This was a good time. Yeah, so what do you get rid of? Forget this. I don't know, man. I've had a lot of games for a lot of years. You've had them all. So maybe time to see something go. I don't know. I don't know, man. Maybe I'll talk to Zach at Flip N Out Pinball because he also does trade-ins. Everybody. You've got a fishtail. You know what? fish tails? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe fish tails goes. All right, as we fade the blackout monster bash for this evening, and the booze. Peace, monster bash. And the booze. This is a good start. And the booze. Well, not the booze. Not like the booze coming from the machine. Oh, yeah, yeah, I got you. Yeah. $400 million we missed because of lack of pinball playing. You know what, guys? Damn. Not our best showing tonight on the Flippin' Up Pinball streaming network, but we had fun because we were playing and having a good time and conversation and then talking to everybody here in chat. So before we do anything else, let's pay some bills, and then let's go ahead and flip over to after hours, because, Bill, I think you still have seven minutes this time of day tonight, right? I'll hang up a little. We'll squeeze a few. Let's see what we've got going on. We'll hang a few minutes in. Sounds good. Now we're going to be going to after hours here in a second as we're going to fire up the Flip N Out Pinball streaming network line. If you are new to the show here, hang on the line with us here. You can actually call in and you can talk to us live. Now the first call we're going to take tonight is going to be Zach Money from Flip N Out Pinball. And I'm sure it's not going to be – I'm sure it's going to be a rousing call because of our lack of action here tonight. The most arousing call. Well, not an arousing call. There's a difference between an arousing call and an arousing call. Move by 75's file. Thanks, man. I appreciate that you're here, man or woman. Thank you. It does mean a lot to us that you're here in chat, so that's cool. We've got another. Oh, PinQuest has given us the 1,500 bits. Neil, thank you so much. It was fun doing the PinQuest tonight, and we really, really do appreciate it. PinQuest changes the whole dynamic of us playing pinball on these streams. Hey, you're live on the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. What's up, Zach? Hey, how's it going, everybody? Ah, we've had better nights, pinball-wise. How's it going for you to know that you didn't risk $100 or $200 or $13,000 tonight? $300. Looks like the old greenbacks are safe in my leather wallet tonight. Yeah, that's good. That's not bad at all. So what's the deal, man? So how cool is it that CGC says, hey, you know what? We appreciate what you guys are doing with these streams. why don't you go ahead and stream this monster bash and let's share it with the public. How awesome is that? Oh, it's fantastic. And I don't think this is the last time that we're going to see Flip N Out Pinball working with CGC and showing off the new stuff. So I'm excited about that for the future. No, it's awesome. For me, it's kind of a relief because what we aspire to do, right, is just to kind of like further along pinball exposure, give moments for like pinball enthusiasts, because we have our moments here and we like to do it. And then to have a manufacturer kind of get on board with what we're doing is, is a relief. I, I enjoyed it. And I couldn't thank Chicago Game and Company and Ryan White more. and right now there's, there's so many pinball machines that you can buy on the market right now. It would be hard to argue that by picking up one of these monster bash classics or SE special editions, you'd be hard-pressed to find a more beautiful, a better shooting pin, and a better lit pin on the market. Agree. I would agree with that. And it's nice because the price point is less than the originals, and they had commanded such high dollars for so long. And part of me thinks it's unfortunate that the original prices no longer hold water. But, I mean, to be able to bring a high-end pin like this that's brand new and an affordable price is always nice. Yeah, everybody pays all that money to high-end pins over there, but why not just pay for the high-end pin out of the box? And that's not to discredit anything the high-end pins are doing, because, I mean, what that guy does is unbelievable. Keep the pins alive, for sure. That's more so to show what you're going to get out of the box. Right. Marlon, the light says, great time to be in pinball. Oh, yeah. Is that Marlon or Marion? Why can't I read the screen? Marlon. Is it Marlon or Marion? You got that black background. I'm pretty sure it's Marlon the light, right? Or is it Marion the light? Marlon, anyone? L or I? It's Marlon. That's what I thought. What's a Marion? I know a Marlon. Yeah, Marlon the light. Yeah, okay. I just want to make sure I'm on the same page. You can tell. I see David Dennis' ass in chat talking about Circus Voltaire. There needs to be none of that shit. You better unload that, Zach. No. Now, we kind of had a conversation about that, right, that Circus Voltaire? And I said, because that's one of those pins that you've been looking for, and to find one in the condition that you did, you are not going to find another one like that unless, and do you know where I'm going with this? Yes. Unless CGC remakes Circus Voltaire. And then you're like, oh, my gosh. The good thing, I always have my ear to the pinball ground because if that comes out, my ass will be selling quickly. Right. It'll be trending up, trending up, up, up, up. Circus Voltaire, 9 grand. And then three months later, trending down after the announcement of CGC remaking Circus Voltaire. Oh, man. You guys had a fantastic stream tonight. After Hours is always a joy as well. Thanks, Bob. I wanted to thank each of you. As long as you chat, man, I'm telling you, I'm a broken. record for every single effing Monday night. It's like the highlight of my week getting to hang out not only with you guys, but with the chat, man. I freaking love these guys and gals coming in. You know what? It's starting to feel like to me, like, Jack, you ever watch Cheers? Yeah. It was a place. Right. Sam Malone. Sam Malone. Yeah. I mean, it was awesome because you had Norm and Cliffy. Like, those guys came in, and every single time they sat down at the bar stool, they knew exactly who was going to be there, and they were all their friends, and they knew what to expect when walking in. We're to the point now where on Mondays I sit down at this table and I know who I'm going to expect in chat and who's going to be here every single week with us with the occasional stranger that eventually becomes our front man. And I couldn't thank you enough for the opportunity to allow us to do this. It's been super rewarding, super fun. Monday night pinball, baby. No problem, no problem. We always know that it's also a special treat any time that we get the crusty creasel in here. I mean, it's every week. He's discussing a little He's part of the team here at Flip N Out Pinball. He doesn't want to be any part of anything that I have my name on, but I welcome him with a big, tight, warm hug, and I will never let go. It's great seeing Dennis Creasel in here. I mean, it's great seeing Chris the Pinschern in here. We see Joe Fox in here all the time. Southwest Pennsylvania Pinhead. We see Josh Rube, Marlon the Light, Dave Fulgren. David Dennis is always here. Jobber is always in here. We've got PinQuest that's always in here. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. We've got this core of like 25, 30 people that are here. And, you know, you only hope to grow the audience because, you know, the more the merrier. But, I mean, it's just so fun to depend on everybody interacting every single week. Well, not only that, but if you're not, let's say you're not a name in pinball media, you're sure as hell going to become a name and a family member here at the Flip N Out Pinball. Absolutely. Good call, Zach. Yep. Now, before I leave, all of these rookies out here trying to do these limericks, I've got one for you on closing, okay? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Because it's 930. Bill's got to go. I got a couple of them. So he'll be thinking about this on the ride home. I once knew a man that owned hoops, a game with less ramps than scoops. He sucks at debating, but that goes without stating that his taste for pins is poops. As you're reading it, I see Creasel. He's like, it better not involve me. He wants no limerick involving him. Hey, man. Always good, buddy. Hey, say hi to Nicole for us. Absolutely. See you guys. Thanks, Zach. Thanks. When he said there once was a man, I didn't know where that was going to go. I knew it was going to end in poops. Dennis gets a little shout out. I just knew it was going to end in poops. It's always fun to see. Now, Neil from Pinquest is saying he's going to make it even more fun with punishments in the next few weeks. I don't know if I'm down for punishment. No, you know what? Because I do this just because I enjoy it. I don't want to be dreading the potential fallout of a punishment. Yeah. I get that when I go upstairs after the show. No, absolutely. That's how we used to go back in the day. The malort was the punishment. The malort was the punishment. I'll do malort for punishment. But there will be no slapping in the face. No, no. None of that kind of stuff. It's got to be alcohol related. I appreciate the ingenuity that is going on over there, PinQuest. But we can't make this Hunger Games or Children of the Corn. It's just not going to work out for me. It's just not going to work out. No. May the pinball be ever in your favor there, good sir. Right, right, right. Oh, good times. Jobber TMI, TMI, TMI. Ken is into leather. You know what? The only leather that I'm wearing is on my left hand during softball night on Thursdays. And that's my Rawlings Raw of the Hide. Rawlings Raw Hide. Which is good. How many of you used to roll around that? Yeah, no violence. I don't think you're allowed to have violence on Twitch, so that's going to be our excuse. I'm pretty sure alcohol abuse is probably also frowned upon. But as you can see tonight by the Fanta's on the table, we're not abusing any alcohol. Oh, shit. We are driving responsibly. All right. So we have probably, what's that? What are you talking about? Ditching evidence. Right. We've got about 28 minutes before we turn this down. Again, Monster Bash is a fun pin. So Monster Bash is more fun when I'm not playing with you guys. I love it. I like it, dude. That is... Are you digging it? I am really digging it. Me too. And that sucks because that means I'm going to have to get it. This will look great next to my Attack from Mars. I've got to figure out what to get rid of. Attack from Mars or Monster Bash. Both remakes. Both from CGC. Both top ten pins. Or Medieval Madness. Or Medieval Madness. Throw that one in the mix. Well, because I know right now in his basement he's got Attack from Mars. Here's another one. Remake. I don't have a basement. Or you don't need a basement. I'm going to have all three of them. This is next. Boss Bash is next? Yep. Really? I love it. That's pretty surprising. Thanks for calling the Flippin' On Streaming Network. Hey, this is Jobber. Hey, what's up, Jobber? What's up, man? Not a whole heck of a lot. I just wanted to get in on the love fest for this game, because when I played everything in Midwest Gaming, and obviously there was no Jurassic Park at that point in time, but I walked over to Lloyd from S.S. Billiards here in Hopkins. Lloyd Olsen, great guy. Yep, I said to him, if I was going to buy any of these machines that were available, Mewen box machines, I have the money in my pocket. the one that caught my attention was Monster Bash. And it's just because it's such a freaking great game. Was it the existing title that you had played, or was it the remake with the light show and just having a fresh revenue? It was 100% the remake with the light show. I know I was giving crap earlier to the quote-unquote purists, but the fact of the matter is if I can get a piece of consumer electronics that's 20 years newer, and that means it doesn't also have 20 years worth of problems i'm uh perfectly happy with that so i'm in the same i i i yeah i i think it's it's just more turnkey it's more available and to be perfectly honest with you they hit a grand slam they've hit one with each of these remakes i mean the attack from mars was amazing with the uh the uh topper with the shaking alien that thing is still one of the coolest uh toppers I've ever seen. The Medieval Madness one was great as well. That's probably my favorite pin, and the one that got me back into pinball. So I would definitely think that'll be on my list at some point, but right now, I know who to call when I'm ready. So do you own either of the remakes at this point? No, I don't. The only pin that I own is my virtual pin. I built a virtual pin out of 90... Zach loves that, Tell us all about it. I heard that today on the show. I was going to give a crap about that. I had totally forgotten about it. Some of us just like virtual pins. Anyways, I had made one out of 90% recycled material and brought it to the gaming classic. And I do intend on trying to bring it also to Expo this year. So, you know, when we get closer. But speaking of big shows, what did you guys think of Pinberg? Because I thought that the pop of coverage, being a guy who used to work in Hollywood, understands the strain that goes into doing, A, live television, B, live sports, which I know there's some who will argue that pinball may not be a sport, but that definitely was sport quality coverage. I thought they did an amazing job. I thought the tournament was engaging and super exciting. And I just thought they did a great job, and everybody playing was incredible. Yeah, you know, I would open up the phone lines for other people to call in and comment on that. Full disclosure, I had not watched a minute of the Pinburgh coverage, and it wasn't because I made an effort not to. It's just because my schedule didn't allow and I didn't get a chance to see the stream. I have heard similar feedback that the stream was really fun. And, yeah, we talk about trying to further pinball with a broadcast or with producing some type of a live streaming show that makes sense for the masses. So, in your opinion, do you think that this latest Pinburgh coverage was something that propelled pinball forward and opened up additional doors for seeing live streaming or a live broadcast? If I was working at a sports network, and Lord knows there's 750,000 of those at this point in time, I would be very interested after seeing the quality and the excitement that goes into it. I mean, if they're covering esports and they go to these big Fortnite tournaments, and I think there was a Fortnite tournament on ABC a few weeks ago, I don't think it's too far out of the realm of possibilities because they're looking for alternative programs right did you notice though I don't think pinball made the cut for esports when they did that Stern Circuit Tour Championship I don't think that it's going to be televised that's what I had read and it could very well be and there could be a thousand reasons why one of them could have been the tape didn't record correctly they didn't have lighting done I mean the hard part about making well they had the lighting because andy rosa had a flashlight on his head selling us oh yes absolutely that is true but i mean i mean with with television one of the biggest caveats and one of the things that will be the hardest for translating something like pinball to tv and it was noticeable on the screen as well is lighting but you can't put studio lights on those things because they create too much glare so there's there there's gonna be there would have to be something but i think at some point it may not happen this year it may not happen the next But if it continues to grow at the rate that it's growing, I think that you could see it eventually. And it just all depends. I mean, they gave a billion dollars to the WWE to bring SmackDown to Fox broadcast. Right. So, I mean, it's it's stranger things have happened. So on that note, I will let you guys go for the week and hopefully somebody else calls in and asks about Pinbird. But if any of the Papa guys are listening, you did a bang-up job, and it was really engaging, and you did a remarkable job with what is overall a very, very difficult show. Congrats to those guys. Congrats to everybody. Yeah, it was great. Absolutely. Thanks for the call, John. Talk to you guys later. We'll see you. Thanks. Bye. You hear the orientation of, oh, you take it out? On that note, this bill is out. Bill? The bill is out. Everybody have a good night. We're going to take it over, Bill. We're going to ride it into the night. Drive it home. All right, man, you good? Yeah. You mean to walk upstairs? Bad neighborhood. If you want to carry me. Way to kill some pin quests, man. Way to kill some pin quests. We're going to kill more pin quests in about 20 minutes. Thanks for coming in. First player is where it's at. I'm wrapped. It's good to hear such positive feedback on the production value of Pembroke. I've only heard good things. Same here. And I think what you've heard occasionally, and I think that either Zach or Dennis from This Week in Pinball have stated the fact, and this is something that I always thought hindered the ability to televise pinball, is that pinball is a vertically playing game on a horizontal playing, horizontal display. So it doesn't fit the screen as aesthetically pleasing as something like basketball or football that's running left to right or hockey or baseball where you can kind of focus on one part. Because you can't focus on one part of the play field. And, hey, Penn Stadium's here. What's up, Scott, for 100 Bits? Good to see you, man. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for coming in. And I saw something pretty innovative by Penn Stadium that was walking around over at Pinburg this week. Maybe Scott can call and talk about that. Yeah, I think he had a couple floating around in some of the tournaments. Well, he had his PinStadiums on the final machines, but he also had like a little robotic action going on there. Oh, right. Which is kind of cool. Very cool. I think you have to figure out a way to fill that screen that makes sense. And whether it's the play field vertically with some shots that are, you know, high leverage shots that are then kind of transitioned in between shots in separate boxes. I don't know, but there's something there. Thanks for calling the Flip N Out Pinball Radio Network. This is Ken and Steve. Hey, this is Steve Haberman. Hey, what's up, Steve? How are you, man? Steve Haberman, the Jersey Jack pinball correspondent on the Special Winley Pinball Podcast, joins us live on the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network. What's up, man? So I wanted to call in and share just some thoughts from watching the Pinberg coverage. Good. Okay. So first off, like, they do an outstanding job. But the big thing that I've seen that they do above all else is that they are not afraid to be excited. They are not afraid to set some ground rules for those speaking. When you say they, who are you talking about? The Papa team. Okay. Okay. So it's all Papa. So like, yeah, pop a TV pinball, you know, like usually you've got someone from the general stream that's out of the Pittsburgh area that's helping drive the stream. So they're kind of keeping things on task. And then you've got the, you know, big players who are, you know, that have all the knowledge. So you have to have, you know, they've got three commentators for the game. One of them's the knowledge. One of them's just the driver that's just making sure content is moving smoothly. And then the third is usually a good pinball personality. I think they're doing a great job bringing that ESPN, you know, like, sportscasters in the booth to the show. Okay. Sure. So they got it down, it sounds like. Fair enough. Well, at least a very solid foundation, it sounds like at Papa. I respect everything those guys are doing over there. And as somebody, like, literally something as simple as producing a stream, because we try to do things a little bit differently. I can see some of the challenges just for entertainment value. So to have something that's live and on the fly and having to interact organically and sound like you know what you're talking about, especially in pinball, you don't have time to really set up what's going to happen on your next show. I mean, everything's happening quick. So it's a little bit different of a dynamic. And I think that flipping out pinballs in the chat, they said it. Need a director. Yeah, I agree. What the streaming is missing is the engineer. Like, when they're switching a camera and they're going to a game, and the game is, you know, cattywampus, is like 30%. No, it makes sense. A director, and you see this in, like, in sports and baseball. When you go to, like, the, for instance, as a lifelong Chicago Cubs fan, Arnie Harris, the guy that's in the trailer, and he's got 26 different cameras and he's just kind of taking everything in and he knows what angles need to be at what. I mean, it's fascinating to me. I have a whole new appreciation for that. And, again, it's something as simple as doing a little stream here. So, again, hats off to everybody involved. And if you think that this was a positive step forward, and it sounds like it was, maybe we do see pinball in the mainstream coming up as a televised event. It would be interesting to see how it goes. I certainly hope so. It's one of those things that, like, you see it, and those guys are doing that for free. And that's what, like, you hope the next step is that the community of players sees the value in, you know, bringing that production value up a step by saying, let's pay these guys, you know, a, maybe not a living wage, but pay them for what they're putting on. Because, like, you know, get one director in there and then you can make sure that the guy who's controlling the camera knows how to make sure it's 90 degrees perfect so that every time you're going to a game, you're not looking at something that looks a little wonky. Right. And that's not on – they're moving a camera from game to game live. They're moving it, like, fast. But inside the software they're running, they could turn that camera so it is perfect, no matter how the camera is set up. So it's just – it's that 10% left that if they were to get to, I think that would be where ESPN or, you know, like, maybe not ESPN, But another environment would come knocking saying, this is the quality we want. I think you need some, like, and somebody mentioned it in chat, and it's something I've always said, like some recognition of personalities. Somebody that you know that when you're tuning into these events, it's like your go-to guy that you know is going to be able to articulate what he wants to say, be able, or her, that she wants to say, and is entertaining but educational and knows the rules. It's just, it's difficult. So you need like a lead guy or a girl and you need like a commentary color. But you need to have personalities. You need to know what to expect. And I think that's going to – because, again, this isn't like we're not televising events every single night of the week like you're watching 162 games in the baseball season. You're watching tournaments that are spread out. Maybe every few weeks something major comes up. So to have somebody like a traveling team that gets compensated would make sense because then you're comfortable with who's relaying the information to you and you kind of get one-on-one or an appreciation for the personality in which it's presenting you the action. So I agree with you, Jobber, man. I appreciate you calling in, and I appreciate all your hard work on Special When Lit. We've got episode number 64 that airs tomorrow, and your Jersey Jack pinball segment is absolutely in there. So thanks for everything you're doing, man. Hey, thank you, guys. You have a great night. All right, be good, Jobber. Yeah, you too. Or Jobber. Why did I say Jobber? I got Jobber on my office. Be good, Jobber. Be good, Steven Haberman. Jobber's all over me. God damn it. He's Steve. Thanks, Steve. My fault. No, that was some great input. I haven't watched any Pinball reaction. Let me ask you this. Even if, let's say, Pinball is on ESPN twice a month, are you watching a studio-produced tournament that's, say, an hour, two hours long? I mean, it has to be edited at that point. It's got to be edited. It's got to be. But do you want to watch it? I'm just asking I mean I'd watch an hour why and I'm not saying why because I like pinball if it's produced nicely I'd spend an hour of my week or month watching that but would it be kind of shittily kind of shittily kind of shittily this is the thing that would hey give me one second here I got a point to get across. How are you, buddy? Hello? Am I on? Yeah, Dave. I thought you guys were in the middle of talking. No, I was just asking you to hold for a second because I was trying to get something that was on top of my head. What's up, Dave? How are you, Dave? What's happening, you maniac? Give me one quick second. Let me get this thought out. When you think about the vertical orientation of the pinball play field, to me it makes sense to have two, one next to the other, to take up a little bit more real estate, or maybe even three, where it takes up the whole screen. And then you do speed runs for score. First one to score 20 million, and you have three balls. You either drain out or you reach 20 million points. And now the game's moving quicker. They're quicker scores. You're not getting deep. You don't have people parking balls on flippers and waiting to make the next shot. And there's a sense of urgency and excitement because you've got three players. And then you just kind of sing elimination until you get down to the final three and then the final two, and then that's it. I mean, but then you're filling up your whole screen. You can still do commentary. You don't have to focus on one game. And it's fast. It's quick. It's not, you know, these long, epic games where people have to really even appreciate the rule set. It's just quick competition. I like that. So that's where I was. Because I forget about the orientation. Yeah, I think that's kind of awkward. You know, flip your TV. Right. No, you can't do that. So what brings you into the house tonight? Wow. So you are, I just came in late on what you were talking about, but you're saying just basically change the whole way the pinball is being played? No, change the format for televised pinball. Right. So I'll tell you what, I mean, I watched a lot of Pinberg this weekend. It was pretty cool. Watched that Jack Danger stuff. It was really cool seeing that Penn Stadium camera on a stick thing they had rolling around. Yeah, so that's Orion, and Orion is like literally walking around, and he's just like his own entity, and he's cruising Pinburgh, and he's conversing with the patrons there. It's great. It's unbelievable. Only Scott of Penn Stadium could come up with something like that. Yeah, that was really, really cool. I think the other thing, what bummed me out was at the end, they redid that bank. I wish they would have mixed it up a little bit and had something. You guys didn't watch it. I was watching, and it was like, oh, we're back to the F-14 football Flash Gordon bank. It was like, ah, I wish they would have put on a, you know, because the other bank had Wonka and had some other stuff. Right. And it was just, I wish they would have. It's almost like they needed more banks or there's too many more banks because following Elwin, no one had that F-14 bank twice. Okay. You know, and it was like, all right. You know, it was Metallica F-14 Flash Gordon and football, And it's like that football was actually, I'm watching those guys play it. Dave, your cell phone's cutting out on us. Are you at the Tomorrow Bar right now because your reception's a little spotty? I am. I'm in the bunker. Yeah, buddy. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. You have tornadoes down south there? Let me get in the front here. No, you're fine. You're fine. No, my son lost his cell phone and my wife's staying, and they were in the driveway trying to find it, So I didn't want to have any house, life stories. So, yeah, I just, it was cool. Cooler than last year, for sure. But like I said, if they could just change that format a little bit. And the problem is, it's like, what, if you're going to get pinball companies to sponsor it, they're going to want their games in the banks. Sure. So it's like, I think that's why the Stern, that thing they were supposed to do for the Ocho for ESPN, that was kind of a Stern-sponsored event. So, because it was all Stern pinball. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. So, do we have to do all Stern games, and that way there's more money going into it? Because, you know, I mean, there was no major. Right. You make a good point. You can have Stern. I mean, we just saw, like, Stern-sponsored tournament. Maybe you have a Jersey Jack-sponsored tournament where there's a bank of their five games. I mean, there's ways around it. Or you segment it where, you know, Bank 1 is Stern, Bank 2 is JJP, and then you kind of have where you're going around the pinball industry, but everybody's getting their fair share of advertising and exposure. It's beyond my level of comprehension because I haven't put a lot of time into seeing the ins and outs of pinball streaming or pinball televised tournaments, but I'm just thinking the one time I did try to tune into a tournament was that Stern Pro Circuit Tour, the one that Andy Rosa won. It was like 13 hours long. Also known as a sternament. It's just long, man. And if you want to watch something live, that's where people might not be a fan of this, but the speed runs, you know, okay, you've got two minutes, three players on this game in blocks. So you know in two minutes the time's up. Your score is your score. Or you drained out. That's it. I think, well, you know, if you like watch that, like they've got that English darts tour stuff. I think it's on BBC or it's on something. But it's almost like you've got to shoot it beforehand, and then I think the magic would be in the editing. I think if they did that, if they did a pre-shot, it would be a live stream. It's the editing, though. But if you're going to do this live, I just don't think the existing tournament format works. I don't think you can do it live. I think if you do it live, it's going to be like, because even golf live, they go to the hot spots. They bounce from hot. Golf or something cool happens, they'll shoot over to that. Even that's even down the reverse. You couldn't do a live stream. World poker tour. Zach keeps asking, how do you speed up baseball? You don't need to speed up baseball. Because, I mean, baseball, it's apples to oranges. Baseball presents differently. It's a national pastime going up against something that's trying to get its share of the televised industry. Well, and the Saturday, watching the Saturday tournament was kind of like baseball for me because I just had it on the TV and I was hanging with the kids. The background. You know, watching it and watching it. I just had it in the background. It was background noise like baseball. So, yeah, it was more like baseball. Just like our stream, right? on the background or just like a podcast. But I mean, yeah, no. Right. But that's it. But how do you bring it to the forefront? I mean, how do you make it must see TV? Does it need to be must see TV? You'd have to. You'd have it have to be. It would have to be edited after the fact. I just have to. You have it. Right. I'm one. I don't like to watch sporting events that have already played out. Like, I need to watch that live because for me, it's like this level of participation where I know that I'm experiencing something that other people around the world or in my area are also experiencing. If I feel like it's been experienced by others and I'm watching individually by myself, I'm not as interested to watch it when it comes to sports. Ben's watching TV episodes on Netflix is different because I don't feel like I'm missing out on the experience. But for sporting events, I like to know that if I'm watching the Cubs and the Cardinals, that I'm not watching it on delay. I want to be watching it live because I know that there are hundreds of thousands of people watching it. World Poker Tour. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. World Poker Tour is huge. World Poker Tour, and that's not live. But you've got personalities in the World Poker Tour. But you do need personalities. But you don't have personalities that have that. You do, but they're not being like. You can edit it to a point where everything's exciting. You go to this game. This guy's about to break. you know, he's about to surpass this guy's score or whatever. I suppose. And it could be. I mean, even if you watch that final four, it was Elwin, that Italian guy, Daniello, that young kid, and then the Chris guy who was the local. It was compelling. I mean, you got Elwin sitting there, and he's just a beast. You know, he's just playing. He's like a freaking cyborg playing. And then you have that Daniello guy. He's Italian. So he's kind of throwing his little, you know, he's throwing his foot up and doing some moves. And then you have the kid. You're kind of rooting for the kid. Yep. And then you had that Chris guy who, you know, he was in the finals last year. You might have recognized him. You don't really know who he is, but he's a local guy. You're kind of cheering for him, but you know you got the cyborg sitting there. It's like, okay, Elwin, turn it on. Bam, bam, bam, bam. You know, it was just cool. And that Daniella guy was doing these catch. He was doing those flipper catches off the Metallica. And it was just, it was like poetry. It was beautiful. Right. Watching him catch the balls out of the chute. and out of the scoop, and he was catching them with his flipper. And, I mean, the announcers were going nuts, and it was just, it was a lot of fun. I think about what you just said. Like, you were able to kind of decipher the differences between the four players that you discussed, and you were able to identify with their individual, you know, personalities and characteristics. And I think that's where Zach's going on flipping out pinball when he says, when poker was hot, it was about the commentators and the shenanigans of the players, not necessarily the cards. But it was just like each of these players had this own kind of ambience about them that you would gravitate towards or you just didn't like. And I think if pinball can develop the personalities behind the tournaments, and you get a solid commentary crew that you're just kind of used to listening, that's where you've got something to go with. That would be – and absolutely nothing against what's happening right now because, again, I haven't watched enough of it to even really, you know, like it or not like it. But when I envision pinball, I mean, on TV, that's what it would take for me to kind of be invested. For sure. Oh, man. Yeah, because honestly, I really don't care about competitive pinball that much. Okay. Sorry. I don't. That's okay. I was just like, oh, put this on. I was like, I'm going to put it on. I was like, oh, I've got nothing to do. I'm stuck with the boys. I'm folding some laundry. You know, we're doing whatever. I'm stuck in the family room. I'll put it on the TV. And then it was like, bam, oh, wow, there's Elwin. You know, it's like I saw Elwin. Elwin's like the cowboy, you know, on the poker tour, the guy with the hoodie, you know, and you're like, all right, Cyborg, here he goes. And then he's just, you know, you had some personalities. Now, when they went to the second bank with the other guys, it was kind of like, eh, I don't really know who those guys are. I wasn't quite as interested. The games were a little more interesting because they had Wonka, so I was like, oh, I want to watch him play Wonka a little bit. But, I mean, that's the thing is the games. When they announced the finals and they announced it was that bank and it was like football is going to be – pro football was one of the games everybody was like, oh. Yeah. You know, I mean, people in the crowd were booing. They were like, oh, not pro football. You know, I mean, the thing is they always have to put that EM in there. Did they not? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At any point during Pinburgh, did the fans start to wave or hit a beach ball? I'm just curious. Hit a beach ball. That would be kind of cool. No, there was no beach ball. I think those – I mean, the thing is everybody in that crowd was in the tournament. So I think most of those guys were just worn out. Yeah, well, I don't blame it. Dave, I'm going to let you go because we're going to try to get somebody else on here, man, but I appreciate that you called. Yeah, rock and roll, man. Great job. Good show, and we'll see you next week. Good times. I appreciate it. Call in, man. That's one of the more daunting things. Every single time I've ever been at, like, a pinball show and there's a tournament, like, you see the guys that are in the tournament. I don't even know how they have a good time at the show because, like, they're looking at when they're up next and they're just drained. It's so serious. And it's like it's a baby. They've been there for 12, 14 hours. It takes a certain individual to be able to excel and do that. It blows my mind how they do it. That's the same thing. You start and it's a whole day, multi-day event. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Like Neil says, they should make it like WWF. People come in with their music in the background. That's freaking awesome. I know. I would love to see that. It would be pretty awesome. I mean, why not? Zahner says, we tried to do that with KC Game Con. we attempted to compile a list of summary info, weird tidbits and the like, and the stats card to talk to the players. Results were mixed because it was hard to get contributions for most of the players in time. Had it not been a voluntary effort, maybe we'd done a better job, but I was more concerned about having summaries on the games so I could repeatedly explain the rules and the scoring strategies. And that's the thing. I remember Dennis and Tony doing that. That was a long day for them, too. As commentators, I mean, there's so much that you have to know. And to kind of keep the stream tolerable at that point. You've got to know what. Like right now, as we go on and we drop viewers, it's like we realize we've pretty much come to the end of the road here on the stream as we hit the 10 o'clock hour. We can take another call. Well, it is 10 o'clock. I'm calling that out. Okay. Bill? Oh, shit. What? Bill's gone? Where did Bill go? It was 10 hours, Dennis said, him and Tony. And that was one of the few pinball tournament streams that I chimed in on. And I would touch base and just kind of pop in there. And I would just see the evolution of them from the start of the stream all the way through. They did a really good job, man. It was good. So hats off to you guys. And I think Dennis said that potentially they'll be doing that again. So it's good. Where is Bill? Where did Bill go? I think we played the Flip N Out Pinball commercial and he bailed. So let's wrap up the Flip N Out Pinball stream tonight. Several people to thank. And we're going to thank Chicago Gaming Company for allowing us to borrow this Monster Bash LE remake. Had a great time tonight, regardless of my playing ability and my level of anger towards the machine. That's what makes it fun for me at times. I want to thank Bill Webb, who's no longer with us. He's gone home. He's gone home to get his beauty sleep tonight. He's gone home, guys. He's gone home to get his beauty sleep. And, Steve, man, it's always good having you here, brother. Dude, it's always good having you here. Always a good time. Steve Beattie, our good friend here on the network. I want to thank Zach and Nicole. Thank you guys so much. Yeah. Bill's at peace now. Thank you, Zach. Thank you, Nicole. Thank you, Bill, for everything you've done in your life. I want to say this, and I say it all the time, but, like, I'm looking right at you, Zach and Nicole. For what you guys have offered us for this platform to be able to, like, get these games in here and let us stream them, I freaking love it. Steve loves it. Bill loves it. It's when we started our podcast and we got into our streaming channel, we always thought it would be great to somehow be able to monetize to where we can just get new machines cycled in and out and be able to stream them. And you've made that completely possible. And I can't thank you enough for that. So we are forever in our grateful gratitude towards both of you guys. Thank you so much. Everybody in chat. And listen, this is impressive. So I want to thank PinQuest Pinball. And if you've not figured out what's going on with PinQuest Pinball, go to PinQuest.com. Check it out. PinQuest donated 4,000 bits tonight. Ah, dude. Which was huge. That's huge. Our buddy Joe Fox. Joe Fox 22, 2,700 bits. Joe. Ridiculous. Pirate Captain Red Eye, 1,000 bits. Dude, Pirate Captain. He's been in. We have Rodcom69 that stopped in here and threw us 1,000 bits. F and Slayer, 1,000 bits. Southwest Pennsylvania Pin Ped, 400 bits. Then we had Andrew Pin Stadium, Krista Pintern, Teen Low Prices. All you guys also donating bits. It's humbling. It's awesome. And we completely appreciate it. Again, all the money is going back into the stream. You're going to see production value step up over here because I don't have the daunting task of trying to cover a pinball tournament. I just have to cover three pinball players that aren't very good. I throw some fancy animations out. So that's not a horrible thing. Good time. We always have a good time. Can't thank you guys enough. And I don't know. Do you have anything else you want to add before we shut this puppy down tonight? You know what? That's about it for me, man. Anybody else have anything they want to add to chat before we shut down? Make a call in. I'm good. Lumberjack, he said, good work, guys. I love Monday evenings because of your streams. And you know what? That's what it's freaking all about. I love Monday nights, too. My Mondays were normally chillax, right? Yeah. Now it's, we're going to go rock some pinball. And I love it. I love our Monday nights now. This is it. I love Monday nights. Monday used to be, like, not my favorite day of the week. Because you're kind of starting the work week and everything. But this is what happens, guys. I'm going to walk you through. Monday night pinball. Monday night pinball, right? I wake up on Monday knowing this. I know that I can jump on my podcast app and I can catch This Week in Pinball. Because they just uploaded a Monday episode. So I get to listen to Zach and a co-host, or Zach co-hosting with Dennis Creasel. And Dennis is on there every other week. I love that. Then as I transition into the afternoon, I'm preparing for our podcast that we record on Tuesday, and that's Special Win Lit Pinball Podcast. Or we record Monday and we upload on Tuesday. So that kind of keeps me in the pinball mood. Then I know that that night, myself and Bill, we're recording Special Win Lit to be released on Tuesday. Oh, yeah. But then when that's over, man, I know we're hitting the stream. and I know that we're playing the freaking new pinball machines. Dude, Monday is like a huge pin day for you. And we're hanging out with all of our buddies. It's great. And it's legitimately everybody that I'm proud to say is like a friend or I'm associated with has come back every single week. And, you know, if the stream didn't even grow from here, I'd be perfectly content with just the following and the camaraderie that we have because it's going to sound corny. It's not our stream. It's everyone's stream, right? So let's make it everyone's dream. If you've got recommendations, you've got to let us know. But I think you'll all be very pleased in the direction of the stream that's going to be taking over the next couple months. And there will be a few surprises along the way. Oh, yeah. So good times. So I think we're going to close it out here. Normally Bill will say good morning, good evening, and good afternoon or whatever he says. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, good evening. Stupid. What do you want to do? You have like a catchphrase? Not yet. Peace out, guys. Peace out, guys. It's been fun. All right. For Bill Webb and Steve Beattie, I'm Ken Cromwell. Don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. Thanks for joining us. So long, everybody. you you you you _(Acquisition: youtube_groq_whisper, Enrichment: v3)_ --- *Exported from Journalist Tool on 2026-04-13 | Item ID: c86ef7ae-9b5a-42d1-834b-f2b8d2aa1e13*