# FNO Pinball Ep 26: Elvira House Of Horrors w/ Chuck Ernst of Stern Pinball

**Source:** Flip n Out Pinball  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2019-12-09  
**Duration:** 117m 56s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNy5k4lLIGI

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## Analysis

Chuck Ernst, Computer Arts Director at Stern Pinball, appears on Flippin' Out Pinball to discuss Elvira's House of Horrors. The stream covers game development details including the 4,200+ video clips in the game, Cassandra Peterson's eight-hour recording session, and animation/code decisions. Chuck discusses HUD design philosophy and feedback-driven adjustments like potentially toning down floating deadheads.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Elvira's House of Horrors contains 4,200 video clips total (3,800 cut from source material plus 400+ generated) — _Chuck Ernst directly states this during gameplay discussion_
- [HIGH] Cassandra Peterson completed all her recording for Elvira in a single eight-hour session — _Chuck Ernst confirms recording details with Paul Chemnankit and Greg Freres in LA_
- [HIGH] The couch seen in Elvira animations is computer-generated because the original prop was already cut into pieces — _Chuck Ernst explains animation production choices_
- [HIGH] Cassandra Peterson was aware she was being recorded for a pinball machine — _Host mentions this during animation discussion_
- [HIGH] Stern is developing standardized HUD visual language across games with four-part score display — _Chuck Ernst discusses HUD design philosophy when asked about standard items_
- [HIGH] The floating deadheads animation element may be adjusted based on community feedback about distraction — _Chuck Ernst confirms developers are considering changes to floating deadheads feature_
- [HIGH] Lyman Sheets had the entire Elvira game vision worked out before animation team involvement — _Chuck Ernst states 'Lyman actually had all of it worked out in his head way before we were involved'_
- [MEDIUM] Paul Chemnankit, a classic CG artist from earlier era, was brought on to achieve specific visual aesthetic — _Chuck Ernst credits Paul Chemnankit's involvement in achieving final visual look_

### Notable Quotes

> "She did everything in eight hours. No way. She cranked through that. She's a pro."
> — **Chuck Ernst**, ~22:00
> _Confirms Cassandra Peterson's efficiency in recording session, establishing professionalism despite tight timeline_

> "There was over 3,700 video clips in this game... Actually, if you count the stuff we generated, there's 4,200 clips in this thing."
> — **Chuck Ernst**, ~35:00
> _Demonstrates scale of content creation for Elvira vs Batman 66, shows extent of production effort_

> "We computer generated [the couch] because the couch, unfortunately, was already cut up in pieces... So she's not laying down."
> — **Chuck Ernst**, ~24:00
> _Reveals practical production constraint and creative workaround_

> "It's cool unless everybody's annoyed. Then it's not cool."
> — **Chuck Ernst**, ~1:16:00
> _Shows developer responsiveness to community feedback on design elements_

> "We're trying to go clean, is the thing. We're trying to clean up the interface... There was so much information that nobody understood any of the information."
> — **Chuck Ernst**, ~1:19:00
> _Articulates Stern's deliberate shift toward minimalist HUD design philosophy_

> "With the benefit of having the art director and also co-designing it, there was, at least from a vision standpoint, Lyman and Greg both knew exactly what they wanted."
> — **Chuck Ernst**, ~18:00
> _Explains unusual production dynamic where designers had complete vision before animation team involvement_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Chuck Ernst | person | Computer Arts Director at Stern Pinball; responsible for animation and visual direction on Elvira's House of Horrors |
| Lyman Sheets | person | Lead code designer for Elvira's House of Horrors; perfectionist known for extensive post-release updates; had complete vision for game before production |
| Greg Freres | person | Hall of Fame pinball artist who worked on Elvira's House of Horrors animations; previously worked on Scared Stiff and Elvira Party Monsters; scheduled to appear on next week's stream |
| Paul Chemnankit | person | Classic-era CG artist brought onto Elvira project to achieve specific visual aesthetic; worked with Greg Freres on animation production |
| Cassandra Peterson | person | Original Elvira actress; recorded all voice/video content for pinball game in eight-hour session in LA; aware of pinball machine purpose |
| Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer; producing Elvira's House of Horrors; developing standardized HUD design language across titles |
| Flippin' Out Pinball | company | Pinball distributor/retailer operated by Zach; streaming partner providing machines for Flippin' Out Pinball streams; has Elvira premium and signature edition available |
| Elvira's House of Horrors | game | Stern Pinball title; features 4,200 video clips; recently released with ongoing code updates from Lyman; won 2019 Swippy for call-outs, music, and animation |
| Steve Ritchie | person | Legendary Stern Pinball designer; mentioned as reference point for animation challenges; preferred duplicate score display in HUD |
| Dennis Nordman | person | Classic pinball designer; no longer with Stern; worked on Elvira project (mentioned in context of past involvement) |
| Dwight Sullivan | person | Stern Pinball game designer; traveling to Australia for conference appearance |
| Steve Beattie | person | Co-host on stream; plays Elvira alongside Chuck Ernst; provides gameplay perspective |
| Batman 66 (game) | game | Stern Pinball title with approximately 800 video clips; used as comparison point for Elvira's extensive clip count |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Animation and video content production for Elvira's House of Horrors, HUD design philosophy and visual language standardization at Stern Pinball
- **Secondary:** Code updates and perfectionism in game design (Lyman Sheets methodology), Community feedback integration into design decisions, Cassandra Peterson's involvement in modern pinball production, Stern's internal art direction and animation workflow
- **Mentioned:** Pinball streaming and distribution business

### Sentiment

**Positive** (0.82) — Strong enthusiasm for Elvira's House of Horrors from both hosts and guest. Chuck Ernst is collaborative, responsive to feedback, and transparent about development. Community engagement positive with multiple donations/subscriptions during stream. Only minor nitpicks (floating deadheads distraction) mentioned, which developers acknowledge and consider addressing.

### Signals

- **[community_signal]** Stern developers responsive to community feedback and willing to iterate on design elements; transparent about design trade-offs (confidence: high) — Chuck Ernst's acknowledgment of floating deadheads criticism and willingness to adjust; discussion of information overload problem
- **[design_philosophy]** Stern deliberately moving toward minimalist HUD design philosophy; previous approach of displaying all available data proved overwhelming to players (confidence: high) — Chuck Ernst articulates 'We're trying to go clean... There was so much information that nobody understood any of the information'
- **[community_signal]** Lyman Sheets maintains unusual production advantage by establishing complete game vision before animation team involvement, enabling smooth execution (confidence: high) — Chuck Ernst: 'Lyman and Greg both knew exactly what they wanted... Lyman actually had all of it worked out in his head way before we were involved'
- **[personnel_signal]** Greg Freres as primary artist on Elvira animations; Paul Chemnankit brought in specifically for visual aesthetic achievement, suggesting specialized skill deployment (confidence: high) — Chuck Ernst credits both artists' specific roles in achieving final visual direction
- **[product_strategy]** Elvira's House of Horrors actively evolving post-release; floating deadheads specifically targeted for potential modifications based on player feedback (confidence: high) — Developer confirms dynamic adjustment approach despite game being recently released
- **[product_concern]** Some community members find floating deadheads animation distracting; Stern considering adjustments to this visual element (confidence: high) — Chuck Ernst confirms 'we're actually toying with changing it in some way, shape, or form' based on feedback
- **[technology_signal]** Stern developing standardized visual language/HUD conventions across games (four-part score display, cleaned interface) (confidence: high) — Chuck Ernst discusses HUD standardization and mentions 'we're kind of leaning that way' for score/balls/credits display
- **[licensing_signal]** Cassandra Peterson actively participated in pinball production; recorded content specifically for game with full awareness and professional execution (confidence: high) — Eight-hour recording session in professional LA studio; Peterson completed pages of call-outs efficiently

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## Transcript

 Thank you. I turn on the switch, first we still come off of The streets are cold, the nights are high, it's a night of dreams And Bill and Sweetie make a stellar speech I'm just a cow, I know it's time to take a ride It's a Monday night, pinball's coming on tonight Are you ready for some Christmas? Oh, a Monday night party, yeah Oh, we're live, ladies and gentlemen. Early. A little bit early. We clicked back in. Hello, Pinball Land. Welcome to the Flippin' Up Pinball Streaming Network, where today we've got Chuck Ernst, computer arts director from Stern Pinball Inn, to play Elvira's House of Horrors. Also to his right is Mr. Steve Beattie. Welcome, Steve. And welcome, everybody, in the chat tonight. This is a fun pinball machine, Chuck. We've had a lot of fun playing it so far. It arrived on Wednesday right before Thanksgiving. And it's here, and it's in Studio C. Studio C? Studio C. Studio C. This is Studio C. This is Studio G? No, we had Studio A, which was the original studio. Studio B is Steve Beattie's place. You've been there. Okay. And now we have Studio C, which is Studio Cromwell. We've got all these studios and not a whole lot to show for it. But thanks for coming back, man. You're like our most celebrated guest on Twitch. So that's always fun. It's good to have a couple of good party guys always to my right. I imagine you're having a lot of fun because this game is not completed as far as a code or animation standpoint, right? It's just like any Lyman project. he's a perfectionist and he will continue to evolve this machine. Yeah, right, right, right. Things drive him nuts and he has to fix it and tweak it and whatever. But it's great already. I can't imagine where else he's going to go with it. It's fun. Well, I mean, and typically we see Lyman come back to games over large amounts of time. It's not like he hits version 1.0 and then tucks himself away. I mean, he's coming back years after the fact to do, in some cases, major overhauls to this code. Now, were there any challenges? Because I remember you speaking about some of the challenges Steve Ritchie would give you when you were coding Black Knight Sword of Rage. Does Lyman have anything that he's looking to throw at you, you know, when he's – or Greg Freres or anybody that's involved with – you know, Dennis Nordman's not with the company anymore, but, I mean, anybody giving you a throw in some curveballs in regards to what they want you to do animation-wise? You know what's kind of funny is actually no. Which is, with the benefit of having the art director and also co-designing it, there was, at least from a vision standpoint, Lyman and Greg both knew exactly what they wanted. Right. So when they came, they said, I want to do this thing. Uh-oh. Kenny Hardy, let's go! Lightning. We're back. So, you know, they were great. Lyman actually had all of it worked out in his head way before we were involved in it, which is unusual for a game production. And then we also brought on Paul Chemnankit. It's an old-school art guy, CG, from back in the day. and he came on board to kind of get this thing looking exactly like it does today. So without Paul, this thing. I'm looking at the attract mode here on that pinball machine. And even just looking at it in attract mode is real fun as you're zooming into the deadhead crypt and then into the house. I personally like it. Kaz, thank you so much for the bits. Peyton, B90, thank you guys so much. Thanks to everybody joining us in chat here tonight. We're going to have some fun. Yeah, thanks, guys. We'll get some three-player games going. Now, we have Chuck tonight until about 9 Central time, so we've got him for a couple hours. And you've got some stuff you've got to take care of, I guess. Yeah, my two-hour drive home. The two-hour tour. That's unbelievable, man. I don't know how you do it. Yeah, thanks for coming out. St. Charles, no high-speed rail. I know, man. That's the truth. There's no easy way to get back to where you're going to go. But we do really do appreciate it. New follow, PeytonB90 is following. Thank you for the follow. Welcome to the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network family. Great to have you. And let's just get started, man. Let's go in rotation. Steve, if you want to start it off. I'm going to make a quick little adjustment to one of these cameras. And then, Chuck, go ahead and run the stream, and I'll catch you around 9 o'clock. I will run it into the ground. When will be the first time? That's awesome. I'll be right back. All right, quick. Quick, let's ask some personal questions about Ken while he's not around. And not the questions about personal hygiene like last time. It's going to be a good thing I couldn't hear you over there. I do want to let people know something really quick. And actually, I got this bit of information just before the stream started. If you're looking to get an Elvira pinball machine, I've got two bits of good news for you. Number one, Flip N Out Pinball, Zach and Nicole, they do have an Elvira premium available right now ready to ship. But if you're the high roller and if you're the man with the plan or the woman with the plan of attack and you want to get an Elvira signature edition, now the signature editions, as far as I know, have all been spoken for. Flip N Out Pinball has one available. You can call Flip N Out Pinball at 847-778-4876, or you can contact Zach at FlippinOutPinball.com. Let them know that you'd like to take advantage and get that Signature Edition. The Signature Edition is the Cadillac of all the versions, and it also has the couch, right? The piece of couch. Right. Yeah. So it's got everything. It's big. I'm trying to get on my trivia. Yes. Now, in other news, we are also going to be giving away compliments of Flip N Out Pinball in Elvira House of Horrors banner tonight. So if you want to walk out of here with a little bit of swag, stay tuned, because we're going to have a way that you can win that. You're going to have to be in chat, and there's going to be a question that's going to be asked. And any correct answer qualifies to get this. The banner is in hand. It's ready to ship, and it'll go out this week. That's assuming you are in the continental United States of America. If you are out of the country and you win the contest, you are welcome to the prize. Just ask that you consider covering the shipping. Because when you get a big banner like that, it could be anywhere between $60 and $930 to get it shipped out of the country. So you've got to be careful. Dave Fogren's in the house. What's up, Maniacs? Christopher's here. One or two. What up, Dave? Home two for the office. Wookie Jeep. Good seeing you in here. Kaz. We've got Tradition. Never dies. Did you buy this, or is this on loan? This is here from Flip N Out Pinball. So most of the machines that we get that come through the studio come through Flip N Out Pinball. And then when they're here, we usually have an opportunity to buy it, assuming Zach doesn't have another buyer lined up. And then they kind of move on. So it's here. Reptile X, what's going on? Welcome back. What up, Reptile X? What up, Kyle Bass? Thanks for the beer. Kyle Bass? Is it Bass or Basa? I need glasses. Oh, it's Kielbasa. Kielbasa sausage. Kielbasa. 50 Bits, thank you. Thank you very much. No, I need the glasses. You ready for player two? Am I doing player two? Sure. Me too. Why not? All right. I'll blow that. P2, P2. Some fun animations here on our Heist of Horse. So I scooch a little bit. You like that? We're good. We're good. Man, I love screaming out of studio. See, last time Chuck was here, he was in Studio A, which was the dungeon of all of our studios. The dungeon. It was the dungeon. Good times, ladies and gentlemen. Man, it feels like we haven't streamed Monday Night Pinball in a couple weeks. It's been a while. I think it's been a couple weeks. It's been a couple weeks. I missed it. I missed it, too. It's good to have Chuck back. Always a good time. It's always good to have Chuck back. Or Kielabasa. Kielabasa. David. David Haas. So is this particular machine for sale? Do we know? Zach is in chat right now. Zach's here, and he's asking a question. He's asking, does a Viber win the 2019 Swippy for call-outs, for music, and for animation? Don't overlook the machine on these categories. What was your question, Steve? Is this particular machine for sale? Well, it's for sale after we stream it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but I mean, it's not every day. It's sold for sale. For sale. No, it's not spoken for. Cool. It's not spoken for. Cool, cool, cool. This is the property of Flippin' Up Pinball and the Flippin' Up Pinball streaming network. I'm going to go have my typical horrible first game on a pin that we stream. You can't get worse than that. That was dreamtastic. So call-outs, music, and animation. I mean, it's got a lot of good going for it, man. I think Ken got evicted. I love the animations. I'm not, you know, you could bypass them. I don't think we should do that. I think people should see it tonight if they haven't spent a lot of time watching the game. You know what's great about this is we actually got to record her, and she knew she was being put in a pinball machine. That's awesome. So where did you do this recording? I'm assuming a green screen. Yep. Paul Chimnankit and Greg Freres went out to L.A. And they actually recorded in a real professional. Yeah, sure. They know what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not like me in the bathroom with a green towel. So how many days did you get with Elvira to put all these shots together? She did everything in eight hours. No way. She cranked through that. She's a pro. That is very pro. And we couldn't shoot with her on the couch. So the couch you're seeing in there, we computer generated. Awesome. Because the couch, unfortunately, was already cut up in pieces. It was already chopped up, huh? Yeah. So what was Elvira sitting in? Just a stool. Just a stool, huh? Yeah. So she's not laying down. I definitely enjoy watching the Elvira clips. So Jobber asked, what is a Twippy? So that is the only, I guess, known pinball award. Hey, settle down there, champ. This week in pinball, Jeff Patterson throws the other, the Twippy Awards every year. And those will be down in TPF. And it's a fan-based vote. Player one, you're up. Yeah, that's, Twippy's good stuff. I think voting opens up in January here. Come soon. Actually, Twippy pre-qualifying voting opens up this week. Yeah, this week. Sorry, Chuck, I didn't mean to cut you off. You're welcome. 16-bit, thank you. BorgDog, thank you so much for the 55-bit stuff. Sorry about that, Chuck. You know me. I've got to come in and talk over everybody. I wouldn't be a good host if I wasn't talking over the guests. I'm not talking anymore. Right. Thanks for coming in. I'm sorry, man. No, I was just on a steam that the recording and everything else with her, She did it all in eight hours, and she mopped through pages and pages and pages of call-outs. It's amazing. Yeah, she was great. Replica X representing with 500 bits. Thank you so much, Replica X. That's awesome, buddy. Thank you. I'm going to see if I can find out the information. One thing I wanted to let you know, a lot of times when you're playing a pinball machine and it has movie clips as assets, and you start these modes and you get used to these clips, you have a tendency to kind of double flip and to skip them. Right. But with these clips and with Elvira's cinematic takes, I still find myself watching them all the way through, even though I've seen them so many times now after playing the game 50, 60 times. Last I counted, there was over 3,700 video clips in this game. 3,700 videos? 3,700. What did Batman 66 have? Oh, jeez. I think 800? No, there can't be 3,700 in here and 800 in Batman 66. No, there is. Lyman went nuts, and he cut up. Oh, my gosh. I think it was 3,700. I'm trying to track right now. That seems like you might have added a column of numbers somewhere. Because that's a lot. I'm just trying to figure out how that works. That's a ton of clips. but are the clips sunk with the audio are we getting audio with the clips we are and they're sunk with the audio so good times our creative pinball talk is going to be straight down the middle for best YouTube pinball table channel could be I like the use of the word table I'm not trying to be anti-social I'm just on our no trying to research some stuff well do me a favor and lift your phone up so people know what you're staring at under the there we go It's not my... Right. Right. Because you seemed a little infatuated there. And even me, I had to look out of the corner of my eye to see what was going on. What are you doing? I didn't want to look. I was like, oh. Unreal. Good time. All right, let's try this again. Yeah, let's try it again. Again, anybody joining us now, Alvira's House of Horrors with Chuck Ernst, computer graphics art director at Stern Pinball is here to talk about the pin, the animations. All right, here we go. Answer questions in chat. Now, next week, same bad time, same bad channel. We've got Greg Ferreres, who is Hall of Fame pinball artist. He was on Elvira's House of Horrors, Elvira's Scared Stiff, and Elvira the Party Monsters. Amongst several other pins throughout the decades, he will be in here to stream the game with us next week. So it's always fun if you've not jumped on board and followed the Flip N Out Pinball streaming network. We recommend that you do so now. Just be notified when we go live. It's always good times. Hey, Fogren, thank you for the bit, buddy. Every little bit counts. Tiki Pinball's here. What's up, Tiki? Hey, 6.5 Degrees is here. We had the pleasure of meeting this weekend, came by and picked up a Jurassic Park Pro from Studio C. Thanks for coming in, buddy. Hot sign guy. He's here. David L. Dennis is here with two bits. Thanks for offering your two cents, David L. Dennis. How's that Jurassic Park Pro? Hopefully good. I'm sorry, what you got? No way. So that's how many are in there. Do I text somebody? How many are in there now? Like six? No, I think they're all in there. Are they all in there now? Okay. I'm pretty sure. I haven't seen most of them then. Hit you. All right. Canadian's here selling a Star Wars topper for $9.50. Comes with a beach of his couch. That's awesome. Is it me, player, or is it Chuck? All right, let's go, Chuck. Just chill it, man. I know you play this all day at Stern. That's what I do. I know. It's computer art directing and then play testing. Right, exactly. I really get into this though, man. That's awesome. In stadium, rock and roll with the gift subs. What is that, one? Ten tier one subs. Wow. Thank you, Scott. In stadium. And, of course, as always, this pin is illuminated by the Pin Stadium Extreme Kit, the exterior mounting Pin Stadium Illumination Kit. Pin Stadium Extremes for the extreme and serious. Looking good. Thank you, Scott. That's huge, buddy. Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks, Scott. More people coming on in. Coming over in. All right. We got straight down the middle. Greg is here. Is it a piece that lights up under the backlight? Nicely done. Hey, now, straight down the middle. Greg was on Special Inlet Pinball Podcast. We recorded that today. Man, the gift subs are still calculating here. That's why you don't blow it up before we go live. Right, right, right. Exactly. That sucks. That's amazing. That's all fun, man. That's amazing. All right. What else we got? I'm going to step away and take my turn here. Forensic D2 subscribing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Woo! Thank you, bud. how do you use a gift sub I'm not sure could tell you very carefully very carefully or loosely how do I get to Broadway all right all right new stops new stops all day stuff guys oh yeah I was gonna check to see how many Let's turn this thing. Wild women, more people! A little late there, Ken. I really like the music for this, too. This is great. No, they did a good job with that. And now I can actually watch the animations here. They definitely could not pay attention before. That's awesome. My game looks good. This is Kaneda. Chopper. Whoa. A mummy gift. A mummy gift. A mummy gift. A mummy gift. I love each other very much. Okay. All right. I'm a little confused. Dave asked, BD, why do you guys wear headphones during the stream? All right. A virus turned up. It's cranked up right now. So it helps to hear just each other talk for sure. It's not necessary per se, but it really helps, man. Petey, what you drinking? I have a little vodka seltzer tonight. Cutting out some carbs, man. Is that a white claw? No, but I mean, I think white claw are also carbless. So that's an option, but a little seltzer, a little vodka. Let's see. All right, here we go. Homemade white cloud. Ooh, yeah. That's a good one, too. Going down quick, too. Slow down a little here. All right, so I was real close to how many clips are in this thing. Okay, so I missed your guys' conversation. Were you talking about the... Within 2,000? No. Well, if you count the stuff we generated, there's 4,200 clips in this thing. Ooh. Yeah. So I think Lyman said you had 3,800 clips that he cut up and put into this thing. So the chances of you keep running into the same clip over and over again, very low. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nope, seen it. The stuff we generated, you'll see over and over again. Birdo Drink One. Thanks for the bitties, man. Woo! Whoop, whoop! Homemade prison wine. Chase, you know what? I don't know how many clips are in Munsters. What is Chuck drinking? Chuck's wife, Amy, asks. We got a... Do we have an Amy Ernst in the house? Yes. That's her. All right. She's keeping track of me. All right. It's Buffalo Trace and Coke. A.K.A. water. Water. Oh, that's awesome. Thanks for joining. Thanks for keeping an eye on Chuck tonight. Because Ken and I have trouble doing that as well. Hello, Zoe. Hey. 42GIF says, hello, Ken. Ken's got a ball going here. I actually don't get to watch the videos being played. Right? It's great. Pretty much every El Barro we've made sold, so we don't have one in our arcade. You don't have one in the, oh, wow. Yeah, I was watching the Wild Woman multiball. I didn't get to see it up there. That's pretty funny, man. I like the tunes. The tunes for the mode are great. They're fun. Greg really, really pushed for the songs that are in this. That's awesome. And some of them we didn't know if we were going to have the license thing until really late. Sure, sure, sure. It's a fun song, man. A little jump jack. So it's better in a pinball machine than listening to the oldies. Good times. Wait, it pumps you up. Yeah, no, it's actually really, really fun. Yeah, Forensic2D, thanks for coming in on Amazon Prime. If you guys have Amazon Prime, you can actually get a free sub every single month. So you can link your Amazon Prime account to Twitch, and then every month you can gift the subs to your favorite streamer. So whether that's Flip N Out Pinball or Special One Land or any of the other quality streaming services out there, get out there and do it. Support your local streamer. Ken, can you provide an update on the charity stream? I will do that later, Kaz. Thank you, buddy. Are you going to come out for the charity stream at all? Do you have any idea, December 20th or 21st? Oh, man. I have to check with Amy. We'll send the Uber for you. I don't know what I'm doing on the 20th. You should bring Amy. Bring her Saturday the 21st. or... Chuck, marry, kill, or eat? Oh. I wouldn't... I don't think I'd eat Richie's little past two. That's old. Oh, my gosh. Marry, kill, or eat? Steve Ritchie, Zach Manning, Mike Sullivan. Mike Sullivan, he's very clean. Yeah, he would give you the best relationship. Right, right. You know where he is at night. You know where you stand in the relationship at all times, too. Like there's no him hiding his feelings about what's going on at any time. Right, right. He would just blurt it out. I'm mad at you. We've all heard that. Right. Ken. I'm very upset with you. I'm mad at you. Well, at least you know, though. That's right. I never have to leave all the time. Yeah. So that would be pretty easy, I guess. So you could. No, I'd kill Steve. Well, yeah. That's a given, I think. Beattie? Or Richard? He has guns. I don't know. It's a tough one. Back on the guns. December 20th. Star Wars weekend. Player two is up. Oh, good times. It's good to be back streaming. I know. Took that week off and I missed it. $35 million. Great! Straight down the middle. Great. Hey, with Amazon Prime, man. That was the quickest anybody's length. Thank you so much, Greg. Greg Bone was, again, I was on special in the pinball podcast. Today we recorded with him, so we had that uploaded probably Wednesday. And Royden's here. Good day, man. How are you, buddy? Cheers. Good having you here. Brian Selser is a pinball collector, says Dave Fogler. David would marry Dwight because he wouldn't play any games. He would F Richie because I bet he's a dirty talker. He would eat Beattie because he's got the marbling, and I'd kill Zach. Oh, so much marbling. A lot of thought went into that, David. All right. I'm noticing the pinball stance of a sucker. It's kind of like he's in the Olympics on the parallel bar. Yeah. He's got one foot directly behind the other, and he's kind of balancing. So it's kind of interesting. Hopefully that rug doesn't move out. The footwork. You like the addition of the rug there a little bit? I really like it, yeah. Yeah, I like it. It's getting cozy in here. It is cozy in here. Having a night with Dwight in Sydney on Friday. Yeah, that's right. So Dwight, I was just talking to him. He's at the airport. Oh, right. So he's going over to Australia for two weeks. He's speaking at a conference out there. And then Rordan's hooking up with him with a couple of our other Aussie friends. And they're doing like a Sunday night with Dwight or something like that. So it's actually pretty fun. What a time. Live Catch Pinball is here. What's up, Live Catch Pinball? What up, Live Catch? Playing Lord of the Rings tonight and watching you. Yeah, man. Lord of the Rings, good game. Good times. Good game, good times. Always good hearing from you. I'm always happy to see you here, Live Catch. Right now. Nice morning. Friday night. Oh, Friday night. I'm sorry, Rory. My fault, buddy. Very cute. Elvira's House of Horrors. Again, if you're looking, there's... But Flip N Out Pinball right now, they have not only a premium ready to ship, but the coveted signature edition. There's one that just made itself available at Flip N Out Pinball. You can call and cover it at a 477-78-4876 to grab either the signature or the premium edition of all buyers. They're ready to ship. They're ready to go. You can also contact Zach at FlippinOutPinball.com. Hey, good job, man. You had it rocking. It was fun. I mean, we're not playing horribly so far, right? Not so bad. And by we, not so good. Hey, you're next. Hey. We are free. Can't head around. So did you guys... Did you guys... It's a virus super secret backdoor skill shot. It's behind the house, and it's a real delicate shot that comes up through here, and you've got to... You either overdo it or underdo it. It's obviously with any skill shot. Yeah, that's a nice one. Did you get to meet Cassandra? I did go to her. I saw her. I took a hundred pictures. Yeah, there was a long line. It was cool to just see her. I didn't shake her hand. I didn't get my picture. It was kind of funny because my wife and I were at the show. We were getting on an elevator. And my wife goes, I bet you Cassandra's on this floor. and I'm like, yeah, I bet she's on this floor. Sure, sure. On the top floor. And we go down one floor, and the door's open, and in comes Cassandra with her manager. Yeah, and she goes down the elevator. I saw them walk in the halls and going from the elevators, and I was like, I'm not going to bother these guys. No, I felt bad. They're busy. They're busy. We saw her. What up, Brian? Stepping out of the elevator, we saw her walking. Yeah, she was there all week. She's tall. Good time. Or she had heels on. No, she would have heels because she's like 5'6". pretty tall. What do you think? Set up another three-player? No, let's wrap it up, guys. It was fun. Thanks, Chuck. Thanks for coming out. Yeah, for coming out. It was worth the drive, really. It was good. We'll get you home in time. One drive, Chuck slashes. One drink. Keeping an eye out, anyway. For four hours of round trips. We need to have it after the release. That was it. So, again, thanks for joining us on Flippin' Up In Ball. We got our subs, so we're good. You're right. We hit our quota of one sub today. All right. Let me... I'll start it. Yeah, the can was, actually. There was a restraining order. Ken doesn't want to talk about it. It's not that I don't want to talk about it. I'm not allowed to speak of it. It's like court order. Really making me uncomfortable talking about that right now. It's actually amazing if you think about what she did on her own. Like she invented that whole thing. Yes. It's very cool. Well and especially in today pinball climate where putting a woman sexuality on display but she owned it and she was always in control of that and she was able to take advantage of that for her own It not like Baywatch right Right. It's like, you know, they could have found anybody, put on a bathing suit, did whatever. For sure. She really definitely empowered... she was empowered... Exactly. ...to her own thing there, so, yeah, it's very cool. Now, you know what I would like to see? And because you remember Sven Gulli, right? Yeah. What if there was like a hidden Svengoolie mini wizard mode or something in here? And you get him to do a little cameo, and that would be awesome. Because when I think of like those late night posts. I don't think you can afford to get him. Really? Yeah, I think he's just. No, I'm kidding. Oh, I was like, man. I was like, you guys got to show up at your birthday party. That would be pretty awesome. I think, I mean, just throwing it out there. He's available, and I think he's local, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little Svengoolie multiball? Sure. All right. All right, here we go. You heard it here. I guess Chuck thinks it's a good idea. Thanks, Chuck. It's now a bad time to ask for a flipper code for me. Woo! Good times. So, had they come out with pricing for the Black Knight Topper, then I had not seen pricing on the Black Knight Topper. Straight down the middle, Greg is talking with Warden. Straight down the middle is Elvira approved. Good times. Yeah, so, Kaz, thanks for the reference to the glamour shot that was provided by Wes Bentley. I'll have to upload that to the Facebook page. It's pretty funny. Does anyone own a Black Knight? We had a Black Knight here for a while, and I did get into the Black Knight LE, premium LE. It shot well. It was fun. and Goolie has that neat TV money he has to buy he's busy counting the $100 bills well there's another $500 in them if he wants to do a little mode here yeah right that'd be awesome yeah I was getting into it man I was deep diving into that Black Knight I would own a Black Knight premium if I had like a collection of like in the 20s, like around 20. Yeah, 20 and lots of money. Yeah, right. Exactly. I don't know that I would buy the topper, though. I'm going to ask Chuck about the floating deadheads, if that's something that will be sticking around in its current state, or if that may be altered. Because if I've got one kind of nitpicky thing. Just a little nitpicky thing. Here we go, the nitpicks. It would be that maybe tone down the amount of stuff. But, yeah, no, it's a great game. All right, yeah. I love it. That was awesome. Chuck, great ball, buddy. Good stuff. Very nice. Good stuff, Chuck. We're just talking about excellent animations. You know, with the floating deadheads, Do you see that staying consistent in its current capacity, how, like, size and where they're going, like, kind of all over the place? Have you thought about? You know, there's some people that have voiced some opinions about that being distracting. Really? Yeah. So it's kind of, you know, we're actually toying with changing it in some way, shape, or form. That's good. You're listening to feedback, right? Yeah. It's like, it's cool unless everybody's annoyed. Then it's not cool. Yeah, that's all right. I hear you. Some people liked it. Some people didn't. But I guess that's kind of everything. Exactly. Can't please everybody, right? Right. Am I right? Am I right? 8, 4, 6, 700 bits. Thanks, buddy. Thanks, Ryan. Someone's got to hand it to Ryan and Chad. I'll be right back. Watch it out. All right. What did you get there? I can't see. Yeah, a little far on both. 4 mil you got going? Don't go anywhere. Don't go anywhere. David Aldenis. Hey, Chuck, what items on the HUD are becoming standard? It's a, I call it the visual language of pinball. Yeah. And we're kind of developing the things that work and don't work, and we're adjusting them. And I think pretty consistent now is the four score at the bottom, all getting different sizes. Sure, yeah. kind of make out. Richie, Keith still likes to have the one score duplicated in the middle. We're kind of leaning that way, at least for the scores, balls, and credits and that kind of thing. We're trying to go clean, is the thing. We're trying to clean up the interface. For a while there, we were putting all sorts of data on the thing. Because you could, right? Right. And then it was overwhelming. Yeah. So what happened was there was so much information that nobody understood any of the information. Sure. Especially when you're in the middle of a game. You only have time to look up for a little bit of time. So there's a lot of back and forth on how valuable that information is on the screen. A lot of people that play like to play like to know, you know, they want to see the flashing lights and shoot the lights. Yeah. And if you have anything on the screen that's telling you to make a shot, it's lost to the player. Sure. So we're dialing back to more of a cleaner look, just a need-to-know basis. Good stuff. Animations and sound in this game, some of my favorite, man. Like straight up, seriously. Have you seen the house party yet? Have not seen the house party yet. You haven't seen the house party? Okay. So somebody's got to get there. I don't want to spoil it to you. Somebody's got to get there. I heard the game goes crazy, right? Yeah, yeah. That's all I know about it. I don't want to. It's very cool. I don't think. I'm definitely not getting there for you guys tonight. Ken's our one shot at the house party. I wonder if Ken's seen it yet. Yeah, it's very cool. Blow it up. Have you seen House Party? No House Party. Jump the dive. I got one more. A bit of feedback. Have you ever flipped off a pinball machine twice? But I'm thinking, like, when it comes out of the Vuck, out of the right, I think, like, a two-second ball save would be perfect because sometimes it fires directly into the left lane, or if you get a ricochet in the out, like you don't want a house ball off a buck. Right, right. But, you know, again, just a little feedback, especially since this happened. Any more feedback? And a center post kit would be pretty nice. Center post kit and some training wheels? We have the outlanes all the way open. Another flipper in the middle. Oh, God. That button. You know what's funny is, you know, I like pinball, but I'm not like a, I wasn't a pinball nerd when I started at Stern. Sure. And it's funny to hear some of the guys go like, you know, I'm like, hey, have you guys ever thought of this? And they're like, yeah, that was, you know, we did that on the whatever which and the whatever game and the whatever game. I'm like, okay. Sorry to bring it up. Yeah, yeah. It leads you to be on to something. Right. You know what I mean? Or my favorite is when I suggest something and they go, yeah, that's stupid. It's not going to happen. Pinbeam 23, thank you so much for subscribing. You've got three months here. Really appreciate the three-month streak. and sticking with us here. And Eaton Ford 67, subscribe to Tier 1 for straight months, or for at least four months. I appreciate that too, guys. Very, very nice. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Yeah, Ken also suggested removing the tilt mech. I don't need to suggest that. I can simply do that on my own, David L. Dennis. But thank you, buddy. There is actually tilt mob in this game today. It's funny to put in a button that tilts the machine. So when you're playing with somebody, just to mess with them. I'm like, the one guy just gets tilt, and it's a computer tilt. Any nuts. Right. Because I know certain guys that would throw the machine through a wall. Oh, yeah. Like, that was BS. Rage tilt. Oh, my gosh. Rage tilt. What do they call it? Cough and drop it? Or you pick it up and slam it? I've only, I've been here when you and Bill have both just reached down to the game, or on or near the backbox, and just turned the game off. Oh, if I ever turn the game off, it's because I am about to rage, and it needs to be off. It's the healthiest thing for the game. It's the healthiest thing for me, actually. Kill the power. Kill the power. Yeah, so it's tough. We had glass shatter after a bad ball recently, Steve. Now, that's tough. I had the glass shatter on this pin. The Translight glass shattered when I was trying to put it back up and in. It scared the hell out of me, man. I've never had that happen before. So, nitpicking number three. Yeah. Stronger back glass. Or how about plexiglass? Plexiglass. It's not breaking all over me. You ever buy a used game and had plexiglass? is the glass? No. Arcades I have, but not pinball. Not pinball. Not pinball. Oh. Yeah, no. I remember you telling me that. That's surprising. That's glass I've never... I should have never accidentally broken play-filled glass either. Knock on wood, I have not either. My first time throwing it away and hitting it with a hammer and hitting it with a hammer in the garbage can. Even with, like, the lid was closed. There was, like, this much of the lid open. Yeah. And it was all over my garage. It's like, oh, what a guy. It explodes. It's like there's an expansion that comes out of the glass. It is crazy. I did. I did. It's all I did. J.K. Pinball flips off his games all the time, especially Walking Dead. So that's good times. Dead ball in Game of Thrones, and the guy hit the lockdown bar. And carry her. Oh, no way. Thank you, buddy. Carry her. Thanks, buddy. Thanks for the 20 bits. All right, what did we miss? The guy slammed the lockdown bar and broke all the playfield glass on Game of Thrones. That sucks. Yeah, that does suck. That's horrible. Dumpster fire. Jobber. Kerry Hardy, all right, got to make like a baby and head out. That's horrible, dude. Did you hear that? Kerry Hardy says, I have to make like a baby and head out. Oh, hey-o. Time for dinner and Disney. Disney or Disney Plus? Kerry Hardy. Oh, my gosh. You guys heard the F-bomb on this game yet? Is there an F-bomb in this game? No. You're in Disney. No, I didn't even say. No. That one could wish, but there's none. We were, Dennis, David and Dennis, the Cassandra, yeah, so she was, we didn't have the couch that she could sit on because she cut it up in pieces for us. So we had to record her on a green screen on a stool, so there was no couch. So everything you're seeing in there was done in post. That's amazing. And we touched on this earlier. She did all of these clips in eight hours. Yeah, all the video clips. All the video clips in eight hours. And she, like a pro, she just was like one shot, one shot, one shot. That's amazing. There's only a few that were done a couple times, but she, you know, just cranked through them. That would have been cool to be there and check that out. I don't know if... Star just jarhead. He's a... Hmm. I'd have to look into that. I would be surprised if Sergeant Jarhead did this. He reminds me of the Attack from Mars. Return to battle, soldier. Right. Got that same voice going on. Maybe they might have put it in after the fact that I wasn't aware of it, and they put a thing in there. Now we're going to have a... Oh, we're going to have a... Okay, so I guess somebody might have put it in without my knowledge. It's funny. What F, Fred? I guess I said... Hey, Fred! Get the Fred out of here! I hate to say it, but in the new Star Wars movies, they are actually not in space. Well, shit. Well, blows my mind, man. I'm going to have to look that I stand corrected if that's... Look at you guys. All right. So we have two people back. Yeah. That's some serious nerds. Yeah. And I thought we were the nerds. Hey, man. Nerds. Nerds. Nerds. Nerds. All right. Don't take it out. Like, hey, guys. whoops, we need to fix something next code update. Next day on the app. Bomb yay. Bomb yay. Good stuff. All right. So how do you get this, what do you call it, the crazy haunted house to it? It's a, I don't know. We're just going to make something up. Complete all these modes. All right, so let's see. Let's see how much of a nerd you guys are. What do you have to do to get the house party? The haunted house party. Start four modes. There's Jarhead. All right, let's see what he says. Wait, that's our... Al Anonymous, what's up? So, yeah, you want to get halfway through the house in this game to really where it really starts popping. When you get kind of that surprise and Shout starts playing, it's awesome. Oh, okay. I love it. I love it. So far, my favorite single moment of the game is when that happens. Joshua Clay did that. And the loose instructions were, hey, there's this house party mode. Can you make a house look like it's having a party? Yeah. And then he's like, okay. It's great. It is like a party. This whole pin is kind of like a party to me. No, it's a great pin. You guys can hear me talking about the pinball experience, which is like the feeling that you have when you walk away from a machine after playing it, and this rates very high as far as the pinball experience for me. I do like it. That last ball was very low, very low. Low pinball experience. No, I totally get it. I totally get it. Lauren Helmut, what's going on? Late joining in tonight. How many games have you played on this so far tonight? This is our second game, right? Second game. Game two. Game two of the year. We will be playing this game tonight until 3 a.m., and then we're going to go to after hours until 5 a.m. Yes, let's catch your alarms. No, we've got Chuck until 9, so we've got a little over an hour. Chuck Ernst is here, computer arts director at Stern Pinball. He's on the game right now. Next week, we have Greg Ferrer joining us. He'll be streaming Elvira's House of Horrors with us starting at 7 o'clock, so that'll be fun. I have absolutely said that I do enjoy this. I wasn't thrilled about this game when I played it at Expo. When you get the full package of the audio, it really changed the game for me as far as... Huge, huge difference. It does make a big difference. We got a little Chuck dance going on over there with the tunes. How long do you expect me to call in for? We'll be selecting our call-ins tonight. Oh, look at this. Hey, did you get the ball, Steve? Look at that. That a boy. Hang on. I remember something about this. When it goes out, when the out lane, you hit the center button. Well, no. If the hand-up thing is lit, it'll be an insert that's lit on the left out lane. Oh, okay. And if you get in there, you'll get the spinning wheel kind of similar to the spider wheel on Skirt Stiff. And in one of the selections, there is a ball save on there. But you need to hit that. You need to hit the center button. And then the wheel comes up. And then whatever price is selected. Because you don't know about it. Well, usually, she'll say, hand the fade is lit. Then you know on that left out lane that you can go ahead and you can spin. So, good job. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed to say that that's the first time I've seen that. No way. I don't think I've seen it. But I also haven't worked on this game for multiple years. We typically work full time on a game for about four months. Okay. And a lot of times the rules and everything don't kick in until like a couple weeks right before the game. Makes sense. It's supposed to come out. That was pretty cool, though. I saw you kind of like, I'm like, what the hell? Oh, I have to hit the button. What's going on here? That's hilarious. I think, well, I don't know if all the dead heads are in yet, but, I mean, we're done. I don't know if they're all hooked up yet. The light under the ramp to the house. Yeah, that's cool. With the skull. With the skull? Yeah. Yeah, that's very cool. Really neat. It almost looks like a projection, like there was a projector. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember, I think it was on Straight Down the Middle, Greg and Zach, and they were kind of arguing, you know, what is that? Is it a projection? I think Greg thought it was a projection. Zach was like, no, no, it's not. It's a light. Yeah, it's laser cut. Laser cut. Laser cut. What up, Courtney? No worries, man. No worries, man. The animation are great. Laser shark. Yep. Laser shark would be a great game. A hand of anything there. How we do? I went way downhill on that last one. We got two games in, man. Usually we get in our groove between game four and five, so let's just blow it up on game three. Unfortunately, a stream usually ends after three games. All of our best pinball playing is off stream, just so you guys know. If only you saw the archived footage of the off-stream pinball play. Sure. I'm sure that's a code name for one of the games we've got coming up. Oh, what do we got? Laser Shark. Laser Shark. You ready to go for another one? Ooh, that's good. Let's do this real quick. Let's pay some bills. We'll pause for a station of identification on the Flippin' Off-Stream Network. And we're back. Was it? Wow. Let's go. Let's get ready to rock this out now. I'm feeling loose. I got beer number two in me, and I got game number two completed. So this is kind of the sweet spot. Three games on beer three. So, Chuck, you've got a vacation coming up, you were saying. You guys are heading out. We're going on a Antonio Cruz. The wife and I are going on a Antonio Cruz. An Elvis Antonio Cruz. Elvis Antonio Cruz. Yep. There's going to be a cat run. Thanks for the thousand bits, buddy. Sorry, Chuck. I always have to interrupt. It's okay. I understand. I know. I know we're early. Now, if you were to throw $10 on the bar, I would interrupt everybody on chat. And I'd be like, hey, thank you, Chuck, for the $1,000. But, yeah, so you're going on a Antonio Cruz with your wife? Yeah, it's an Elvis Antonio Cruz. There's nine Elvis performers. Wow. You know, tribute artists. So are you both big Elvis fans? Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, okay. So do you own, like, an Elvis pin or an Elias pin? Actually, we do have an Elvis pin. We have the Steve Ritchie Sparrow and Elvis pin. Is it getting a lot of play these days? Oh, heck, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I always tell people it's one of my favorite drastically underrated spin ball machines. Yeah, I don't have a lot of time on Elvis. You got enough slack there, bud? Yeah, okay. Is it being held down by the... Right, nothing but the finest equipment and cable management systems here. Failing wire. That's being held in place by the wine opener. Have you ever been on a Antonio Cruz? Yeah, so I went on a Antonio Cruz before I was married. We won't talk about that. Yeah, so I didn't know what I was thinking about it. Good thing my wife's not checking out the streams. Yeah, I went on a carnival Antonio Cruz line. We were on, I forget which ship it was, just at the Bahamas. Oh, okay. Yeah. Where's your Antonio Cruz going? I think down there somewhere. Bahamas? Yeah. It's not really, the Elvis thing is the important part. Like the Caribbean thing? Yeah. Stopping some places. We have an unlimited drink plan. That's kind of the whole thing. And the kids aren't coming. That's awesome. Well, that's the big win. You paid your dues there. Man. Tiki Pinball, thanks for the 100 bits, buddy. Thank you, thank you, thank you. St. Thomas, St. Croix. Oh, Chuck's wife, Amy's here. Yeah, it's great. All right, good times. She's here to correct me. That's perfect. You know what? And it was real hard for me to figure out who she was based on her username. That's awesome. Amy, thanks for coming in to chat. I appreciate it. We better get some fillers to go over here. So, Chuck, I know you said you had to leave in about ten minutes. I hope that you don't mind if I keep you for a little longer. Hey, we love Chuck coming in here. He's our go-to guy on these streams. So, thanks for lending Chuck to us for a couple hours this evening. Now, he did tell us that he's on a strict getaway plan tonight, so we will not be peer-pressuring Chuck to stay. Good times. Okay, we went to a three-hour Antonio Cruz. The Carl Weathers started getting rough. The tiny ship was tossed. If not for the courage of the fearless crew, the minnow would be lost. The minnow would be lost. Chuck is absolutely hilarious. I will give him that. Pinball loves Chuck. Yeah, it's good seeing Chuck getting the accolades that he deserves here on these animations, on these LCDs. I was talking to him earlier on the LCD in the upper right. There's the driving crazy little neon animation. You all right? No. What? Come on. You're okay. It's all good. Player three, you're next. P3. What is Chuck's favorite game he's worked on? Wait for Chuck to come back and sit down and pass the answer. All right. My favorite game? Mortal Kombat. Mortal Kombat Annihilation. Oh, God. My favorite game I've worked on. Oh, that's good. All right. Here's the thing with working on games. You don't appreciate them until much later after you're done working on them because they're too fresh. It's your head. It's kind of like cooking all day and then not wanting to eat the dinner. Right. That's exactly it. When you're all done. I was telling Ken a story earlier about, I think it was you, maybe it was Ford, because you guys look a lot alike. Absolutely. I get confused for jump. A lot. It wasn't for my attire. George Gomez was telling me about how he didn't want to play Monster Bash. He couldn't play it for like a year and a half, two years, after he was done with the game because he just had it. And then he cracked open the box like two years after he finished the game and set it up. And then it was just in a box. I can see that. And it's a stellar game, so you're just too close to it. I mean, even to a certain extent, getting everything out of the basement and into here was like a labor of love over three weeks. And by the time it started taking shape, I didn't even want to be in here anymore because I was like, man, it just aggravated me, obviously to a lesser extent. And it's also like, I don't know if you've worked on cars at all. No, I'm not a car guy. I know gas and jiffy lube for oil. See, I love working on cars that you don't have to drive to work the next day. If you could just, like, work on it and do your thing. Spent 15 years, like, the truck I've got. So, like, have you ever wanted to restore a car? I'm actually, right now I have a 75 Bronco that I frame off. Complete, like, from the frame up. Yeah. The only original part that's still on it is the frame and the transfer case. Everything else is brand new. So that's like spare time, labor love. You can find some parts on eBay and order those things. That's exactly it. Yeah. Or I have stuff. I send out stuff to have somebody rebuild it or whatever. Right. Oh, that's cool. But, yeah, so that's great because I don't have to drive it to work. You know, I'm not feeling like a Saturday. Yeah, it's not a 92 white Bronco. I want to say Dash Render has followed the channel, and I wanted to say welcome to the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Pinball Network. It's good to have you aboard. Tonight we're streaming Elvira's House of Horrors with Chuck Ernst. He's the computer art director over there for animations at Stern Pinball. So when the movie releases, Chuck is gracious enough with his time, and he comes in and hangs out in chat, answers some questions, plays the game. We've had Chuck here several times, and he's just a good guy to hang out with. Funny guy, and he's getting ready to go on a Antonio Cruz with his wife Amy here pretty soon. That covers the night so far. Too much information. He's recently been dieting. He plays chess. Right. His feelings were once hurt. Now an E-Bronco would be badass. I'm a big techno nerd, like sort of electric cars. I'm fascinated by electric cars. Electric cars. Scott DiNizio owns a Piero? He does. That's awesome. Underrated car. it's got a tape deck I think in it too nice yeah you got the cassette adapter uh yeah no remember the cassette that you plug in for your CDs right right yeah yeah is that what you're talking about yeah yeah so you had a battery powered CD player that you plug into your cassette player yes I do remember that I do remember that and it just sounded like crap my wife today was uh going through midlife crisis and she wanted to like listen to Enya she's like where's my Enya CDs and I'm like How would you play it on your CD? It's like, we don't even have a CD player. Like, where would it go? I'm like, it's called streaming. You know what I love? I love albums I bought as vinyl, and then I bought again as cassette, and then I bought again as CD, and then I have to buy again. Digital download. Yeah. And albums end up costing like $90 over time. And the music industry is like, we're being ripped off. Well, it depends on who you ask, I suppose. High school broken dreams in Mid-Jungle. I was thinking cigarettes and despair. No, that's crazy. Yeah, I do remember the stabilizer to sit the CD player on. I remember back when there were VCRs. You wanted to go out and buy the separate rewinder, so you didn't wear out your rewind mechanism on your VCR. You had a separate rewinder, even though you could rewind it. I remember watching it say tracking for like 10 minutes going, oh, this thing's jacked. It's not going to work. I'm going to take this right back to Blockbuster and tell them what for. Tower Records. Tower Records. So my wife is laughing because this is starting to sound a lot like Mary's radio show. Who's Mary and what radio show are we missing out on? I want to call into that, please. A friend of ours has a radio show on WLIP. Oh, yeah, cool. On Sunday mornings. Really? And it's kind of like this without the pinball. I hope it's nothing like this with or without the pinball. It's like complaining about stuff like, do you remember back when you had to change a tire? Yes. There you go. Women's Lip, WLIP, Kenosha. Kenosha, Wisconsin. Kenosha Wisconsin Is there streaming services available for this And are there call I like to call in I think it is actually Oh it a women lift though Yeah well it a chick program you know for the women So be frowned upon if I were to call up and complain about something. You should call in. I should get everybody to call in. I would love to call in. Wow, I'm way behind on chat. I have no idea what's going on now. Kenosha Kickers. Yes to both, streaming and calling. Sweet. CDs, cassettes, women's lips. Amy, I was inviting yourself and Chuck out to come out December 20th or 21st for our 24-hour charity stream. It'd be great if you'd come out and hang out. Yeah. Seriously. It'd be fun. Just something to think about. Steve Ritchie's coming Friday night with his wife to that charity party. That's awesome, man. Yeah. Very cool. He's bringing his wife, Diana. Kind of kicking it off, huh? Kicking it off with that. Picking it off with Steve Ritchie. Okay. Stream starts at 6 p.m. on December 20th. 6 p.m. Central. It's a special win-lit streaming network, so it's a little bit... I don't want to plug anything here. Tonight's a night for Flip N Out Pinball and for Stern Pinball and Elvira. And again, if you want to get an Elvira's House of Horrors premium, you can contact Zach at Flip N Out Pinball, because he's got one ready to ship. Also, he's got the highly coveted Elvira's House of Horrors Signature Edition. The creme de la creme if you're looking to go all in on an Elvira pin. He's got one that just became available, and it's ready to rock and roll. And this game is fun. Yes. I just want to get back up there and play, man. Yes. So what's your high score on this game? I'm sure you've opened it up a little bit. I've... 100-something mil? Yeah, probably 100-something mil. I usually take it... Like, tonight I'm just kind of flipping around. I usually kind of have an approach to the game that I like to take. And so my goal is always to get halfway through the house, too, because I like to see that animation. I like to see that sequence. I like to see the pin kind of explode. We'll definitely do that tonight. We'll get through there. I've just been kind of finding my shots a little bit tonight. Good for you. I'm having some fun. She picked up a Deadpool from Flip N Out Pinball That's right Deadpool's another great pin Not a lot of duds coming out lately Not really thinking about it Not at all Good time to be buying pinball I love that No, not a beer She's talking about the silver bullet She used to do the Coors commercials for the silver bullet Remember that animation? Yes There he goes What'd you get? Nicely done, Chuck. Nicely done. But okay. Yeah, you know what? We can talk about charity streaming after hours towards the closing. I appreciate you bringing it up, Kaz. Yeah. I really do. All right. Cassettes and DVDs, or VHS. I miss Camelot and the music in the 90s. So, Kaj, did you have any strange, like an ear gauge? Camelot. Oh, my gosh. I was crazy about that. Was it a bass tattoo? Guitar records, Camelot. Camelot, those were in the malls, right? Okay, so I'd have to say one of my favorite games, probably next to Alvira, recently is Deadpool. Cool. I play the hell out of that game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Deadpool gets a lot of love. Jurassic Park is getting a lot of love these days, too. Ooh. Tonight. A little double finger off screen. You're just trying to make me feel better, right? It's a charity thing for you. It's like Chuck is terrible, so I'm going to blow this one just to make him feel better. I'm good. I'm good. Ball three is the magic ball for me on this pin. No worries whatsoever. Let me ask you, how do you get an extra ball in this game? I don't know that I've seen an extra ball lit or offered or otherwise yet. That's a good question. I'm just curious. I'm assuming it's coded in. If anybody has extensive time on this pin, because we're just kind of getting into it tonight, and you know how to light the extra ball or how to achieve the extra ball, So I'm assuming it's probably after a certain amount of modes have been opened or completed or something. You know, and I'm tempted to check the database at work. It's probably right on the apron card. I just have failed to look at that also. If I wanted to read it, I'd go back to school. Well, the funny story was on Jurassic Park, I had played it for like two days, and the extra ball would be lit, and sometimes I would get it and sometimes I wouldn't. And I scoured the play field for the extra ball insert, and I couldn't find it. So I emailed Keith Elwin. I'm like, did you guys forget to put the extra ball insert on the play field? And he's like, no. He's like, there's a big sign over the right ramp, and it's a litter. It's not. And I looked up, and it's right in front of my face. It's pretty embarrassing. Sorry, why Keith doesn't come on special when lit. Yeah, no. Yeah. It is what it is. So you hit some groundbreaking discovery. There's no extra lit. Right. Insert them. Well, I used to work at Valley Total Fitness. I used to run health clubs. And there was a guy that was in my club, and he was new, and he went to type somebody's name, and he's like, hey, come here. I'm like, what's up? He's like, there's a problem with my keyboard. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, I think they forgot to put a Z. I'm like, what? I'm like, this right here. He's like, oh, I didn't see it. Like, his keyboard was missing a Z. Like, no, it's lower left one. Lower left. All right, so finish two haunts, and or finish two deadheads. That's it? Yeah. Come on. Man. Good luck. I've done that before. I just blew my last ball. Dang. It's not Zed. I don't. This is not the Army. I want to say thanks to Adam Dillon. Adam Dillon. For following the channel. Cheers, man. Woo! For Dash Render who followed. Last two guys I followed. Thanks for so much. Tiki, I missed you. Missed you throwing some bits too, man. Always good to see you. Tiki Pinball and Hunter Bits. Thank you, Tiki Pinball. I think I missed Pirate Captain Red Eye throwing a thousand. Oh, yeah. No, I made a big deal out of that. I might have been up there on the machine. I think I cut off Chuck. Unfortunately, when I was... I might have been up there on the table. I got excited about that. Everyone likes when it's called a table. A table? We've got Pirate Captain Red Eye. All right. Collect it on the center shot. All right. Oh, center shot collects it. Easy enough. I'm down. Adam Dillon with another 500 bits. Cheers! Calabasa. Another 300 bits. Cheers, buddy. David Alden, a couple bitties. Why do you have to wait until January to get your Jurassic Park? Courtney subscribes again with Twitch Prime for five months. Five months. Woo! Thanks, buddy. Five months. Chuck's like, what's going on? What are we doing here? I don't know what's going on. What's going on? Kielbasa. This feels illegal. Whatever's happening is probably illegal, right? Maybe. It seems sketchy, you know. I don't know. A little bit. Figured that out in a couple years. Nice, guys. Thanks. Seriously, appreciate it. Guys, appreciate it, man. Boo! When it comes to Stern, where exactly is the Stern dumpster? you know stern we stern dumpsters off limits i don't think we have it it's in it's indoors it's indoors yeah because there'd be people like it's lonnie's office jobber going have you seen the stern facilities and dumpster diving looks like a hoarder wait no don't throw that away put it in my office you walk in you have to navigate the one path to get to his desk. Whose desk is that? Lonnie. Awesome. Oh, really? Is it like a hoarder? Yeah, it's funny. And he moved in from a smaller office to a bigger office and all he did was just explode into it. Oh, yeah. Just more storage. Boxes of human heads or whatever he collects. You know what? I mean, there was an instance here in Illinois recently. Did you read about that? No. I mean, it's not even funny. They busted into some guy's garage and there was like, I don't know, a couple hundred boxes and he was like an abortion doctor and all the boxes were fetuses and jars. Like thousands of them. Like it was crazy. Wow. Birdo Drake? 300? Hey, Birdo Drake. I have no idea why we brought this up. It's like Pokemon. You got to collect them all. Oh, this is so bad. That's good. That's good. Birdo. My windowless van. That'd be Zach's van. Anyways, let's keep going. That van is nice. I want to keep playing over it. If I could get a 1970s van with an electric, I would totally go that route. Electric 70s van? Yeah, like a Tesla 1970s van. Sure, I got you. Maybe make it 10 miles on a charge? Like a Scooby-Doo van style? Yeah, totally. I would totally do that. Like a Pabst can crusher van? I'm kind of going, yeah, exactly. Nice. With less Donny Gillies (Dirty Donny). I was thinking a little Donny Gillies (Dirty Donny) all over there. I wouldn't buy a used one from Dirty Donnie. I didn't see him at Stern today. Where was he? I didn't see him there. Milk carton. Yeah, it's got a little intense, guys. Let's tone it back down. Ramp shot. Ba-dum-boom. Got to tone it back down a little bit. Dirty Donnie's airbrushing. See you, buddy. Thanks for coming in, man. Great stream, he says. and going to go watch some Christmas movies with the wife. No doubt National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. I hope. Maybe a version of Christmas Carol. Actually, I would love to have Jeremy do a thing on the side of the van. It would be mental. But he'd have to do it in glitter. It would cause, like, vehicle accidents from people watching his artwork drive by. That's what I'm saying is I'm going through a midlife crisis. That's okay. But it's not a Corvette. It's just nice. Stupid vehicles. That's okay. I mean, you could be worse. There's a lot of midlife crises going on. I'm planning my midlife crisis. Frankly, cars are cheaper than this, Javi. Yeah. Like, what happened? What did you guys do? You drove the prices through the roof. Yeah. Yeah. You should get a Star Wars topper for your van. I knew that was coming up tonight. I knew that was going to come up tonight. The most expensive hood ornament in 1970s electric vans. But you've seen it. Yeah. So if you were a complete Star Wars lunatic. Oh, yeah. If I was a complete Star Wars lunatic, I'm buying it. I can guarantee you right now, I can't afford that thing. Yeah. But I guarantee you they'll sell all 500 of those. I would be shocked if they weren't already just about spoken. They might be. Yeah. It's crazy. Zach, do you have any Star Wars toppers available for sale at Flip N Out Pinball? Can we order the Star Wars topper? If we all go in and we share the topper. Share it. Right. Exactly. Exactly. It'd be like a belt. Like whoever had the high score on streaming night gets to go home with the Star Wars topper. I know you're in there. Dirty Donnie Glitter Van, make sure you give away candy. Jarvis says, I'd be shocked if flipping a pinball has already sold out of inventory. Waiting for a reply about additional allotments. So is the original allotment spoken for, I guess would be my follow-up. As he does with all games, says Jarvis. Kohler F-15, Stern just needs to get Potter and make a $20,000 Hogwarts edition and just print money for years. I have a $1,000 Yoda at Samara Bar. I believe that. You know, Jeff Portellus has that $10,000 Millennium Falcon hanging from his ceiling. It's like half inside of the garage. That's cool. Birdo Drink One's not as impressed with the Star Wars Toppers. He wants two and he doesn't even have a Star Wars. He wants two of the Toppers. One to open and one to keep New in the box. New in the box. New in the box. Zach says, yes, it is. So is original a lot? I'm going to slow down. And I mean, Flippin' Off sells out all games because they're the best. I agree. I heard the problem was J.K. That's J.K. Rowling. Doesn't like pinball. That's the lack of the license user. I think she's still under the impression that there's gambling involved with pinball. And she doesn't like the fact that pinball machines are in bars and taverns where she, that's not her demographic. So that's the point of contention with her. She doesn't frequent the bars and taverns. She probably has like 30 pins in her basement. Exactly right. She's got Jeffrey Starr and they play pinball online. Put a bigger helmet on a black night topper. You could do that. I think that's the J.K. rumor's BS. I don't know why you would think that. Screw you, J.K. Says Zach. Flip it out. I've heard the same, but that's such a strange thing. You know what? Everybody's strange. Yeah, that's true. They do have hard things. Nicely played, Colerath. Dip-bunk. Dip-bunk. Right there. He just myth-bustered us. Yeah, it's the bump. Nicely played. Boom. See, I like that it was a comment backed up with substance. Now we need to go see Harry Potter. What the hell of a shirt? What is that? Oh, dude, this is my least favorite shirt. I was just out of all my other shirts. Just found this on the floor. What a head. Crumbled up next to my bed from the last time I wore it. Can you ask Chuck what it's like working with content providers and using video assets? Is that really tough? Is that really tough? Okay, content providers. I miss Ken's weed shirt. His weed shirt? It's not a weed shirt. It's a hop from a beer company. Stop wearing a hop shirt. It's not a weed shirt. It's just, I just. I haven't seen you wear that for a while, though. He's been feeling like it's a weed shirt. So here's an interesting thing about the content we get a lot from the licenses. A lot of the licenses we do are kind of like old school, like, say, Ghostbusters or whatever. They're titles that were out 20 years ago or 30 years ago or bands that have no content at all. So a lot of times the content we get is whatever we could pull off of a DVD. You know, they give us the rights to do that. And then we kind of pick apart the DVD to see what we could put on the screen. In the case of Jurassic Park, they were very strict about what we could use. Basically, no people or vehicles. And so they were like, you could just use the dinosaurs and the bushes. Here's the bushes. Sorry, the bushes. So, yeah, so what the problem was is when you distill Jurassic Park down to just dinosaurs and bushes, there's like three and a half minutes of action in that whole movie. It's a lot of Jeff Goldblum talking and stuttering. That's great. So in that case, we decided to completely regenerate everything, you know, like all the dinosaur attacks and that kind of thing. So in this case, it was great that we could, you know, like Greg would write a script and Elvira, you know, basically rattled it off and did it perfectly. And so it was, for Elvira, we were in complete control over all of the content. And she only had a few objections. Yeah. And they were totally valid. Like, sometimes you'll get objections. Like, what would be, like, an example of an objection? Well, she might come back and say, like, listen. Like, I need to keep my, never mind. Let's go ahead. No, like, for instance, she had some requests. If she's not laying on the couch, then she wanted to be shot from the waist up. Because, you know, there's some, like, she had some look that she wanted for her couch, but there was no couch. Right, I got you. So she didn't want to look like she was sitting on a stool because that's not Elvira. Sure. So she was just like, that's just not my MO. Shoot from the waist up. It makes perfect sense. And so we're like, that's all your objections are. We're good. Well, even on the back last, it's pretty much shot from the waist up because she's not lying down. Right. So I see that there also. Yeah, if you Google her. Oh, you've got to move the machine back. You just put it totally out. What the? You can't have nice things. Gently. Another. Keep going. Go back? Yeah. It's okay. It's Chuck's turn if you tilt a little bit more. No, you're good. Back a little bit to the left. Back a little bit to the right. Oh, tilt. Sorry, Chuck. So Zach says... Someone say dinosaur bushes. I thought they had feathers. Oh, no. I love happy hours. So Ryan wants to know if there was anything Cassandra didn't like. We'll ask. Sorry, man. It sounded good. Was there anything that Cassandra wasn't particularly liking or wasn't fond of? Like during the whole thing, she ever get mad or upset or disappointed or yell? or throw something or demand somebody leave a room? There was some concern about just the sheer quantity of content before they started recording. And then once they started recording, Cassandra was on. She was just like, oh, don't be silly. And she just cranked through it at an unbelievable rate. But it doesn't look rushed. I mean, she's just such a professional. Oh, yeah. I mean, she's having fun. She's like an artist. If her name is on it and it's a representation of herself, Why would she want it to look half-assed? You know what I mean? Well, and she approves. She's the approver of the whole thing. Sometimes you'll deal with the license, then you'll deal with, okay, so there's the, you know, Spielberg gets to chime in. Right. And then you have the studio, and then there's 30 people involved. And then, yeah, too many chiefs and not enough. Yeah, so she goes, I like it. It's in, you know. Birdo says, Ken, you need to run DMV on that back wall. I got Run DMV running above Elvira on the four wall, actually. It's on the four wall. I do have one here. It's purple. Right now, what's that from, that last animation? I'm pretty sure I saw Elvira running on the DMV while she was talking at one point. That was awesome. Oh, on the clock. That's hilarious. Oh, he got an extra ball. See, now we can watch the clock. Did he? What's going on? Hey, what? So what? All right. All right. So this is actually one of my favorite development experiences. Good, man. It shows. It's almost like an original title. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, when you just have her as the licensee, I guess, right? Yeah. And Greg, who designed the art, is also helping design the game, and Lyman's in the building. It's like a well-oiled machine. Like you said, there's not 30 people going at it. What needs to happen here, it was simplified. Like Star Wars. I can only imagine Star Wars. I can only imagine. Channeling George Lucas. You have to submit things, and then they have to make sure it doesn't offend. you know, like it's like a cannon. Like you can't just, like it has to be very strict in this world. Boba Fett would never do that. You know, like he's not real. They're like, yeah, but we know what Boba Fett is thinking. But Boba Fett really wouldn't do that. Right, right. Because he's real. He's ruthless to us. He's our baby. One of the things we ended up doing, we had a cut, if you know, it's in Star Wars. there's no guys you won't see any the speeder bike guys in the jungle the stormtroopers on the speeder bikes sure, ok you won't see them because none of those guys signed releases and why not? well because they weren't actors they were stuntmen and the stuntmen so the stuntmen wouldn't sign they didn't sign releases for acting so they were not thinking back then that this was going to become you know a pinball machine yeah, yeah, yeah and so So, you know, Star Wars called us up. So the Stuntman that were really riding those through the real forest back in the day. On their hover bikes. On their hover bikes, the real hover bikes. Yeah, it was. So at one point we're like, we kind of interpreted it as, so we can't show their content, but we can make up our own. And one of the guys we had. With approval. Well, right. So we made up our own. We recreated those things. we digitally removed all of the stuntmen from the scenes and then put our own completely regenerated content in. And it looked so good that Star Wars, the guys' approvals were like, no. Wait, no. That's me, man. Right, right. I didn't get approval. Listen, if you can't do that, because they were in that scene, now they're not in that scene, then they're going to go, well, you removed me and then did your own thing. And so Alex Alex Borre is one of the artists that we worked with, and he completely replicated it to the point where you couldn't tell that it wasn't the same. That's amazing. So you find these little loopholes, right? We were trying with the loopholes. Yeah. And they were like, we don't like loopholes. Yeah. You got pew-pewed down, man. All right, where are we at in chat here, Chuck? Let's see here. We got, we got. Chuck, does Stern produce new anime pre-render video and UI overlays, or are you all able to use runtime keyframes? Okay, so you want, like, real-time or pre-rendered? We have, I assume that's what we're asking there. We do have some capability of doing real-time, not real-time 3D, but real time manipulation of images sure it tends to be a lot of effort for a little payoff a lot of times people don't even know that they're interactive, they think it's a movie so it's way more cost effective for us to do pre-rendered scenes and replace them out makes sense this just in Orbital Albert and the Pinball Nerds Podcast has just subscribed tier one for six months. Currently on a six-month stream. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. Kyle Bost. Kyle Bost is here. Oh, Kyle Bost is here. Two months. Two months. I'm flipping out for pinball. Yes, you are. We're flipping out for your loyalty. Thank you, ReplicaX. Throwing out more bits. It's raining bits here. Making it rain bits. Nicely done, gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen. What's up, man? I was listening to your podcast the other day, Orby, and excited to hear I made the cut for your cards, buddy. I think that's cool. It's an honor, and I can't wait to talk about that, man. So when you're ready to talk, I think that's super, super fun. If anybody has not given a listen to Pinball Nerd's podcast, find it on your favorite podcatcher. And this guy's got like 400 episodes, and sometimes he podcasts multiple times in one single day, Chuck. Multiple times. Yes. He's not a lot. What, Nova Scotia area in Canada? He's getting ready to set up his home stadium. Well, in the winter, right? In the winter. No, he's all over the place. I picture when it's really cold, he's like, I'm going to podcast again. No, when he's on break, he's podcasting more often than I am. The guy's an animal, so good times. I'm going to get a question for the car. I love it, man. Dennis is getting one, too. That's right. After his TWIP performance. It's huge. That's right. David Dennis was on TWIP this week. So, hanging out in chat pays off here because you can actually co-host this week in Pinball Podcast with Zach Menning. Have you co-hosted TWIP yet, Chuck? I haven't heard you on there. Oh, TWIP? No. I think you'd be a good candidate for that. Anyways, Albert, I wanted to say thanks. It was super nice of you to even think of including me on that. Totally honored, and I think it's awesome. So, thanks, buddy. Now we're at 832 with Chuck, so... Good seeing you. I like the plan. You're bad words there, bud. Good having you in here. What's going on? Oh, hey. Chuck going to blow it up. Calling it. Oh, Steve, you got a card too, buddy. Yes. Yes. So Orbital Albert's doing like this. He's like commemorating people in pinball with like these printed cards. Oh. No way. And myself and Bill and you, we all reached, we made the cut for all these cards that it. So he's going to be contacting you for questions that will go on the back of the card. And then the cards come in packs. Cool, man. How freaking cool is that? That's really exciting. And it's funny because Albert says he's talking about, myself is talking a little bit about Bill. And then he's like, but if I had to hang out with one of these guys, I think I'd want to hang out with Steve. Yeah, good call. Because Steve seems like the guy that I'd have the most fun with and I'd like to party with. Yeah. And I'd like to just, like, he just seems like he would suit me. Like, we would click and we'd really get along. Appreciate it, man. So, yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. That's very cool. I'm going to link you to that podcast. And then subscribe if you have not already. Subscribe. Zach Minney, also with a card. Also with a card. Pretty cool, man. Good idea. Great idea. Yeah, that's crazy, man. What's funny is if I can get one of these cards in my possession, I'll just put it on my wife's nightstand, and I'll be like, that's why I've been doing this for the last 16 months. Now I'm out. Paid off. All done. All done. Good times. Okay, so Dave said we cut out, and I actually saw live, and it said reconnecting up there. Hey, we're back. I had a little internet issues. Now, Entron has subscribed with Twitch Prime, and they've subscribed for two months. Currently on a one-month streak. They got one. And he says, keep up the great work. Entron, thank you, buddy. We are streaming wirelessly this evening. Our cameras are all wireless, going through the interwebs and hitting from a transponder to a receiver. So everything you see here is not hardwired. The wreaths are capturing all video and audio tonight. From space and linking it in. Nice ball, Chuck. Chuck with the ball. Nice ball, Chuck. So maybe we had like a connection error there. Yeah, I saw something. You know, I've had internet. I live pretty local, but I've had it go in and out. Actually today for, you know, 20 seconds. So maybe it's you. Could be. Because maybe it's like Stranger Things. You know what? You're absorbing power from around you. You're taking down the internet. Ah. What did I miss Somebody busted everything No, we were watching your ball there, man. You got a incredible little ball. Nice ball. Hey, Ryan. Nice ball you got there. Nice ball. You got a nice ball. Okay, so something crashed or we're having an interruption? All right. I saw it reconnecting. I think we were out for like 20 seconds or something. During your best ball of the night, we blacked out. You're like, did you see this? No. Did you see what Chuck did? No. We lost him. No. I got everything. So, Ken and I were talking. I think we're going to shut the game down. We're going to go into after hours. We're going to get some call-ins going. How long until you guys get rid of me? Well, I mean, you're here until 9. We want to get some calls in to you. All right. Oh, yeah. There we go. Yeah, so if you want to, we can cut playing Elvira. We can go to after hours if you want to take any calls and then get you out of here at 9, and then you can go back to playing a little bit. It's totally up to you. If you would prefer to keep playing and answer questions in chat, I'm fine with that. You being the guest, IBM presents, you make the call. Just remember, you have to make the calls from Australia. That's a tradition. It is a tradition. Dr. John, I live 20 minutes west. So if you don't mind, just on your way home. Wait, southwest. Is this kind of liquor? Just let you get an extra 40 minutes for your Antonio Cruz. How are you doing there? I actually have to leave early because I never know what the heck is going on up there when I get on the road at 6 o'clock. Yeah, that's looked over semi. You're getting some bad traffic. I think a night home should be good for you. 9 o'clock at night there? No, no, like 9 o'clock is fine. Just getting here. It's like you can't, if I leave at 6, it's 8. Getting here, if I leave at 5, sometimes it's 6.30. Wow. Fair enough, man. And I give you credit. I wouldn't come out here. He's like, I know me, and I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do that. Let's pause for station identification on the Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Network, and we'll go over to After Hours. We're back. After Hours with Chuck Ernst. Where'd Bill go? Where did Bill go? This is the normal. Bill disappeared. I should quit. So Bill, he's still hanging in there with his baby stuff. So we expect him back. Kid's 18 now. Weird. Expect him back by holiday season of 2020. No, but Bill, if you're listening, buddy, hope you're okay. The line is set up 630-283-2888. International rates should not apply because it's a Google voice number. Bill's in bed. He chimes in occasionally. I don't know who's in bed, man. That's a great question, actually. I'm not really sure. Bill, are you out there? So Bill showed up. I hosted pinball last week, and Bill was like, I'm out. I had a fresh baby. We were in the middle of hanging out pinball night, and Bill shows up with baby Bill randomly. Little Bill. Yeah, little Bill. Baby Bill. Burrito Bill. Burrito Bill. And Ken and I were like, what the – what is the baby doing on the table? The weird thing was he was on a motorcycle. So you're like, dude, I didn't know he made car seats for the motorcycle. I'm in the corner of his place. Baby's got the goggles on. Playing Star Wars Pro. I turn around and my view is obstructed by a baby carrier. I thought somebody bought a baby carrier as a gift for Bill. And I look at you and you have this just weird look on your face. I'm like, no way there's going to be a baby here. Lose it, kid. What's up, man? What's up, Lose it, kid? Ryan, what's up, buddy? Top three things that aren't going to show up tonight. Yeah, right. Maybe it was in one of the top three. Thanks for calling in to the Flippin' On Streaming Network. You're on with Ken, Steve Beattie, and Chuck Ernst from Stern Pinball. What's up? Hello? Hello? Oh, yeah. Hey. Oh, yeah. What's up? That's one giant dinosaur bush there. Nice dinosaur bush. Well, his comment was he was confused because he thought dinosaurs had feathers, and it took me a second for that to register. Pinball in this podcast. Thanks for the message. Hey, what's going on? Thanks, Albert. How are you, Zach? What's going on? Good time to be a pinball distributor when an release like this comes out, huh? Yeah, we got Chucky in the house. Thanks for coming, Chuck. No problem. Hey, Chuck. Always a good time. Somebody's got to shill this thing. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes. Right. Or a baby. I don't know. Somebody needs a shoe. Bill's baby needs a pair of shoes. And a hat. Hey, now you've got an Elvira Premium ready to rock and roll right now. I don't know how it happened, but you fell into a signature edition Elvira that is ready to ship. So people can contact you. And you also wanted to give away a banner tonight, an Elvira House of Horrors banner. Is that correct? Absolutely, man. I've got my own Elvira LE that I've been playing the hell out of each and every night. and the animations are, can I say, gorgeous, thanks to Chuck Ernst and the team over there at Stern Pinball. Thank you. No problem. Thanks for having me. I'll pass it on to the guys. My whole job on that was to let them do what they needed to do. So I'd like to take credit for it, but there was a bunch of good guys that did it. You're one of the good guys, man. Yeah, well, you do it well, buddy. You do it well. I would love to see you next time. Chuck, next time you come in, you'll have to bring one of the animation crew members with you. You know what? I'm going to force them all to come in here. Well, maybe not all of them. Just fill up the place. Let's not fill it up the place. How about one at a time? 30 guys. Over like 17 weeks. There's very few, actually, so it's not too bad. I met one of the young ladies, I think, on your animation team today. Oh, was it Olivia? I don't know. She was in the break room. Glasses? Yes. Oh, yeah, it's Olivia. Okay, very nice. Cool. Very nice lady. Former art director at Stern's daughter, Stephan. Yes, Jensen's. Yes, I was actually told that. Stephen told me that. I'm sorry, Zach. Anyhow, good to hear your voice, buddy, on your own network here. It's like Ted Turner calling in the TV. Yes, absolutely. Right. As an update, I'm playing the hell out of my alley. We've got premiums that are ready to ship out tomorrow if you're ready for them. And I do have, as Ken said earlier, we at Flip N Out Pinball got our hands on another signature edition that sold at release. Wow. We got another one. If somebody's lucky enough or if you contact us, we'll get you set up and ship that thing out immediately to you. And why don't we give away a banner? How about let's do that? I think that'd be great. Everybody loves a banner. If you're in the continental United States, the banner ships are free. And if you're out of the country, you're still welcome to kind of come in here. But we ask that you consider paying the shipping your own way because it gets a little complicated that way. But fair enough for you there, Zach, or what? Absolutely. Do you guys have any way of giving away this banner before I make up something on the spot? We were discussing earlier about if somebody knows the exact number of deadheads that are in the game. Let's do that in chat right now. The first person who lists how many deadheads are in the game gets the banner. Go. Hang on, I know this one. Can you show me on your hand how many are in there? Are there really? That's awesome. How many deadheads are featured in Elvira's House of Horrors? The first correct answer will win an Elvira's House of Horrors banner. In the video, not on the play field. Right, in the video. So how many different deadheads can be accessed? You'll get the Elvira House of Horrors banner, and it will be signed by Zach Menny, but he's going to sign it Elvira, so at least it's like the best of both worlds. Don't forget Aunt Surly. Don't forget Aunt Surly. Whoa, look at this. A thousand pennies. The TNT wins Tim of the... Oh, Tim Roth. Tim Roth. The TNT wins Tim Roth. Wow, Tim. You had a very easy name last time. I think this is a new name. Yeah, thank you, Tim. I appreciate it, man. That's awesome. I thought that was a guess of a thousand. I'm like, that's right off. It is. We're not talking video clips. I'm like, he's really wrong. So nobody has a clue. Now, you can take a guess. So, I mean, obviously, there's at least one dead head, and those are the heads that are floating around. All right, we've got a five. Five, Dave Fogren. Nine. That's incorrect. Incorrect. A nine. Six. Incorrect. Incorrect. 13. Incorrect. 12. Incorrect. Six. Chrome candy pinball. Incorrect. 13. Loser kid. No. Five is incorrect. Nine. Four. Five. All incorrect. Eight. Incorrect. Are there any numbers left? You're all copying up each other's numbers. Seven. Incorrect. Four. Incorrect. Four and three. Four now. Nine and 12. Logging dolphins more. Going right. You got a third of one. Hey, live pinball with 15. And what's great about that is he's conveniently located in Brazil. Is it really? It's awesome. Oh, good time. Hey, so Chuck's picking up the shipping. Zach's paying for the banner. And he's coming in. Brazil? Are you kidding me? So you can ship those to Brazil, right? The pinball machines? Good times. Live Catch Pinball. We're exactly guessing. Chuck is a liar. We're going to keep guessing. He's adding one more right now. He's going to go animate one tonight. Right. Is that me? He's like, it's actually, he's like, Lyman, I put 16 in there because somebody from Brazil won. All right, so Live Catch Pinball. Where are you exactly? Come on, man. There's still guesses coming in. I wonder what the delay is here. It's not fair, right? Because Brazil is a direct wiretap. I can tell you right now that flipping out Nicole is about to truly be flipping out. Yeah, that's right. Through customs. See? Thanks, Live Catch. Live Catch. 11, 12. I wonder what the delay is here. I'll leave you guys alone. Don't leave me alone until the shipping's figured out. Live Catch Pinball is still guessing. Brazil. We'll figure it out. We'll get it to Brazil. We'll send Beattie down there. He takes vacations. That is true. Steve, you do take. I could drive to Flip N Out Pinball all the way down. You do take those vacations. All right. Well, I will. I'll see you guys later. If you guys make sure to support Stern Pinball by buying that Star Wars topper, baby. I love it. Woo! I'm telling you guys right now, I bet you anything, in a short while, everybody's like, damn it, I should have bought that thing. Oh, yeah, the pin? No, the topper. Oh, the topper, yeah, right. So live catch is back down to three, and then two, and then... No, there's got to be a massive delay. There's a massive delay. And I have to check into the stream settings, because I thought I had to delay. It's not fair, because Brazil apparently has got the best connection to Illinois. Right, he's got the fiber optic. right to Studio C. So he's able to get in the action. He must be a Kenosha. Val Palo. See? I'd go there. Yeah. All right. So Steve's going to personally deliver the banner. Zach said it's cool. If I use the flipping up van. The flipping up. All the. To be road tripping. That's a big road trip. Zach jumping off. Leaves the line open at 630-283-2888. We have Chuck Ernst here for about 13 more minutes. Thank you, Chuck. Thanks for being generous with your time here tonight. And, you know, can't wait to have you in. and hopefully one more time before the end of the year. I mean, we're in December, so whether it be for another pin or whether it be for a fundraiser or maybe you just stop by with the wife and have some dinner over here. All right. Yeah, it's big. I grill. My wife makes Pop-Tarts. Snake? Nope. No grill and snake? I can grab something down in Brazil. That's all I need. Woo. Good times. You know what I could use is a beer. What would you like? Any way you could throw me a Revolution Brewing. I was kidding about the white claw. You have white claws. You want one? I have one, man. No, I'm not 20. No, it's not 20. It's if you're in the streaming community, you have to have white claws. Is that the deal? It's like a rite of passage. Thanks. It's like if you visit Chicago, you have to have Malort. And if you come to a streaming studio, it's so bad. It's so good. It's like Wisconsin and Jägermeister. You ever do the Jägermeister shots? It's like a punch in the eye. I've done Jager Bombs. I like Jager Bombs. Really? Yeah, I like Jager Bombs. Jager Bombs, Jager Bombs. You ever see that YouTube video, My New Haircut? The guy talking about Jager Bombs and muscle milk. Jager Bombs, Jager Bombs, Jager Bombs. Yeah, Jager Bombs. That's right. All right, so 15 was the correct answer. It went to the lab kitchen. 15? So there are 15 dead heads coded in Elvira's House of Horrors. Now, you have seen maybe three or four. I was going to say, I've seen maybe a half dozen of those. Oh, really? Yeah. Is there any advantage to taking out all 15 of those dead heads? Disclaimer, they might be still going in. I don't know what. That's how many we made. Gotcha. So you heard it here. They might be more and more going in. It's the flipping out man armored. going to Brazil 18th century yeah Central America yeah here's your banners oh my god get in get in that was awesome well hey that's not too far from Chicago either man like he could be delivering that downtown and have the same poor back flipping oh man I get it back I'm bullet riddled it's right it looked like the Deadpool freezing truck man the ice cream truck Jimmy Chilock right Oh, yeah, Venezuela's tough. So he's got a U.S. address. He'll send it over tomorrow. So send that address to Zach at FlippinOutPinball.com. What do FedEx guys in Brazil look like? The FedEx guys must be just like stormtroopers. I thought you were going to say something like a joke, like Swiss cheeses. It's like it turns out FedEx runs the biggest security firm ever in Brazil. So I was in Venezuela. Why? When? I was on a buddy's boat, and we did a little island Antonio Cruz, got down there. But I saw the bank guys come in, and they literally, they jump out of the back of this truck. They all hold up M-16s, and one guy runs into the bank. This wasn't a robbery, by the way. This was just how they collect the money from a bank. Oh, okay. And then they get into this armored vehicle and drive off. Hey, better safe than sorry. I can get it. It's wild. Ooh, is Torgo one of the death heads? Torgo? What's with the Torgo? Torgo. Now I want to hear, who's the Star Trek guy? So Marlon is saying that he's going to display the banner at his streaming studio in Brazil. Now his streaming studio, he's got it all set up. It's like all airbrushed. It's pretty artistically done. No, seriously, it's awesome. I'll send you a link to that, Chuck. You'll like it. It's one of the better studios. Put Studio C to shame, but we're working on a budget here. We can take the shit out of this place. Can I say shit? Yeah, you just did. That's okay. Yeah, that's okay. Hey, this stream is much mature. Beep. Oh, wait, wait. You're the worst. We're just talking about Dinosaur Bush not so long ago. Beep, beep. So we could do something with that. Some graffiti? I'm thinking. The garage door. You can take the garage door. Yeah, the garage door, I don't know what to do with yet. You know what? I was thinking, your wife's really going to be pissed if you get a hail storm. She's going to go, you know, we had a garage, but now our windshield's knocked out of our freaking car. Well, she hasn't parked in this garage in 13 or 14 years. I mean, seriously. Kevin would be like, well, you know, then we'd have hail damage to our pinball machines. Honey, something had to go. It is what it is. It had to go. I'm going to refresh Chad here for a second, because I'm wondering if we have a little... Uh-oh. Are we locked up? No, I don't think so. Maybe they all went to bed. Just a little refresh. You know, since we went, since it reconnected there. Yeah. I see what you're talking about. We had a little delay happen. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I think when we reconnected, chat stayed, our stream was current, but chat fell behind. So I think we have a lag issue probably that nobody's aware of except for us. I want to talk about the Civil War. Damn it. Yeah, there you go. Anybody want to guess where this call is coming in from? Australia. Australia, Steve? I'm going to say Plainfield. Hey, thanks for calling on the Flippin' On Streaming Network. You're on with Chuck, Steve, and Ken. Hi, Kevin. Hi, the rest of you. I didn't look at Chuck's name, so I forgot it for a second. This is Christopher. Wow, what a start of the call that was. Hi, Chuck. I forgot your name. You forgot mine, too, because my name is Ken and not Kevin. But you're 0 for 2 on the names there, Christopher. I'm doing great. It's because I'm distracted by two screens from the Vikings that said something. I got you. So I don't know exactly what that is. Let me ask you a question. Hold on. Has Kyle Rudolph done anything tonight? Because I need him to score five points for me to clinch first place in my fantasy football league. I am not 100% sure as of right now. All I know is that Russell Wilson is coming up next. So you should be excited. But back to pinball talk. The reason I called is because I kept bringing up Torgo. Okay. And for whatever reason, I was having phone issues there. So anyways, Torgo is a character in Man of the Hand of Fate. So if you're in the Man of the Hand of Fate. Torgo is a character in the Hand of Fate, Chuck. Chuck? Okay. So if you're in the Man of the Hand of Fate mode. Yeah. No, I'm like hearing myself back, and I don't know what the heck's going on with my phone. Okay. My dumb story that's very unimportant. What was that? So, anyways, Manos is the guy. Torgo is the guy with the beard and the hat who walks funny in the Manos the Hand of Fate clips. That took me too long to explain that. But, anyways, that's who Torgo is. All right. That's good. Okay, bye. Sorry. Thank you for the information. Not his most precise call, but he got the message delivered. He got it. Here's the deal. It's always good hearing from Chris. Thanks, Christopher. Every time we do one of these games, especially if it's like Batman, oh, there's two, three seasons of Batman, 30 episodes or whatever, or like in the case of Game of Thrones, 50 hours of video. Yeah. So every time they were like, the designer was like, hey, you guys need to watch these movies. I'm like, I can't watch 30, 40 hours for your game. I can't do it. You've got to pay, man. Netflix. In the case of El Rara, these movies are so bad that I can't. I mean, the whole point is that she's making fun of really bad movies, which is great on an individual movie basis. Right. But poor Greg and Lyman had to just tromp through those things. It's got to be taxing. And they filmed those movies back in the day when they weren't trying to be funny. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Now it's funny. It's terrible. Of all the movies that you watched, was there one that stuck out where you thought, where I wouldn't want to watch it again? I think it's so bad it's good. The most watchable one is The Woman's Head. Oh, The Brain That Never Dies? Yeah, that one. That was good. What about Night of the Living Dead? That was like the start of the zombie craze too, right? They're coming for you, Barbara. They're all tough. It's like Mystery Science Theater 3000, and she did it first. Right, right. Nobody takes that into account. That's true. Elvira was a trailblazer. Replicas says, when I was in Venezuela fishing, we paid guys to watch our car with a shotgun so our stuff didn't get stolen. I would not doubt that. Wait, you left your stuff in the car? I would doubt that. And then flipping out pinball offers to jobbers saying that your phone works as well as your virtual pin does. There's a little ha-ha back and forth. Life Catch Pinball with a K repeating. Lots of them. Yeah, my phone was the Dressling Shits. Drizzling Shits. Dressling? Dressling? Is that a word? Drizzling. I spelled drizzling with two Zs. Or two Zets. Two Zets. And you don't want to watch Man of the Hand. It's what the kids do. It's kids. You've got to keep up with the kids spelling. I don't know. I just found out my 10-year-old's got a Discord. What the hell are you doing on Discord? And it was weird because it was the Eclectic Gamers Podcast Discord channel that she was on. No, I'm kidding. But I don't know what she was doing on Discord. We've got three more minutes with you, Chuck. You got anything you wanted to get off your chest while you're here? Are you pretty good? You know, we've got an announcement coming up soon, hopefully soon. Who's we? And you say Stern. And so that's what we're working on. That's why I look tired. Last call tonight here, and then I want to get back to that for just a second. I know you can't tell us details. No, I can't. I know. Thanks for calling in to the Flip N Out Pinball Studios. You're on with Chuck, Steve, and Ken. What's up, you maniacs? Hey, Plainfield call. What's up, Plainfield? How are you, buddy? Chuck was just telling us that Stern's got another announcement coming up pretty soon. so so where are you in plainfield well that's exciting it is exciting should i hang up and let him talk about it no i'm trying to figure out what the delay is here though like so are you noticing that there's a delay like for instance right now um i'm waving my hands up in the air and waving them around like i just don't care he stuck the internet on kind of a brazilian marlon did yeah yeah he's got the direct line for the contest what's he's he's definitely I can guarantee you that. Comcast is out of Brazil, aren't they? No, I don't know. So what's up, Dave? What has you calling in tonight, man? Everybody's out of Brazil. Hey, oh, do you guys have a list of the movies that you actually used, that you've taken the clips from? Well, there's still movies getting coded in, right? I don't know. Yeah. Well, I mean, but. What? I was talking to Mike today, and he was talking about a movie that he was actively coding in right now. Who? Mike who? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about. Hello? Hello? Oh, that was like a teaser. It's a number you've reached. Hello? All right. We lost Dave. I think he was just asking the Elvira movies. Right. Right. There were a bunch of them. Yeah. No. You have a list of. There is literally 3,700 clips in this game. Yeah. And I just checked it. And so I think he'll be probably adding them in for the next 150 years. I think we lost the stream. The stream says reconnecting, so we're having some issues here. Oh, Jesus. Oh, countcast. You got the 10 meg? No, it's not the upload. You know what it is, though? Showgirls. Yeah, it's reconnecting. We're not even on right now. But just because I saw it earlier. MetroNet's in our area Did you switch? No, but like anytime somebody gets service here they disconnect a bunch of service from Comcast so I'm surprised it's happening at night time Yeah, no, they can't be doing it at night It's that beautiful Carl Weathers The Carl Weathers's too nice You know, they say that, right? But then I'm like, you realize all your lines are underground They're like, yeah, I know I'm like, what? It's not like there's... No Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Weird. All right. Yeah, hey. We're back. Maybe. There's technical difficulties here, and what I think is actually happening is – you think Dave fell for that? No. No kidding. Metronet's in our area, and they have been chopping lines to lay fiber optic. And when customers are getting Metronet, they're going into the Comcast boxes, and every so often there's been Internet drops. So that call was – Do you know where Metronet is? No, I'm still on Comcast. But if they're going to cut my Comcast every time, I'm going to just keep on Metronet. That call was internet-based, so that's why we lost it. Oh, yeah, right. So all of our calls are voiceover. The nice thing about voiceover IP is you lose it whenever you have no internet, which is great. Right. Yeah, I don't have any other choice besides Xfinity or really, really slow AT&T. I had U-verse, and it was 12 megabits per second. You know what's really sad? Well, Metronet's a gig up and a gig down. That's pretty awesome. That's really good. But Metronet, before we moved from Plainfield back to Wisconsin, they were like, hey, would you be interested in fiber optic? And it was the same cost as AT&T, but a gig up and gig down. Yeah. And I'm like, absolutely. Yeah. And like, sign us up. And so after we moved to Wisconsin like a year and a half later, they went, hey, it's Metronet. We want to schedule an installation. We're like, we moved. And they're like, oh. But I would contact the people that moved there because I guarantee you they don't want whatever was there. Yeah, right. Oh, yeah. I'm scared to switch. I'm scared to switch. Internet addresses or, like, email? Well, I mean, what I actually want to do here, and sorry for sidetracking. We're going to wrap this up here in a second. I want to go totally off the grid with cable. I want to cancel my Xfinity channels and Internet. I would like to implement Metronet because it's, like, $60 for a gig up and a gig down. and then just stream everything via Netflix, Amazon Fire TV, and just a la carte what I want to watch, and probably at the end pay what I'm paying now. But at least you get what you want, though. Yeah, right, exactly, because I don't watch it. I need my local channels for sports. You do. But I don't watch any network TV anymore. I just stream everything, and I binge watch everything. I put an antenna on. And that's what I'll do. I'll put one in the attic. You get the best picture, too. Oh, cool. So it's like a double antenna thingy. Jarvis says Xfinity because you have no other choice. But let's wrap this up, Chuck. I know you've got to get on the road. A couple of thank yous tonight. Scott from Penn Stadium, thanks for illuminating Elvira's House of Horrors exterior for streaming purposes with the Xtreme Kit. Go to PennStadium.com right now because with this being Cyber Monday, lots of money off. So that's like $40 off of this and $60 off of this. So you've been on the fence for Penn Stadium. Jump over there and grab yours left. We did not have pin quest challenges tonight, and that's my fault. I didn't communicate with Neil that we were streaming Elvira, but I guarantee those will be back next week. I want to thank Zach and Nicole Mennie, the owners and operators of Flip N Out Pinball, for allowing us to stream. I want to thank everybody that's in chat, everybody that donated bits, everybody that typed in chat, and everybody lurked and just had a good time. Super, super appreciate it. I want to thank Steve Beattie, who's always the best co-host for me. And Chuck, we raise our glasses to you, buddy. Yeah, buddy. You're our favorite guy that we have in here, man. Cheers! Cheers to Chuck! Chuck Ernst from Stern Pinball. We have a good time, guys. So, after this, we're going to go ding-dong ditch, Bill? Yes. That would be amazing. Right when the baby's long. Can you imagine that? Baby's like baby sleeping. Bing-bong! What was your... Bing-bong. So, how did you get divorced, Bill? I was hanging out with Chuck Ernst. The audio of the night goes... How do you do it? so awesome. Get in the car, get in the car. It's so bad. It's your freaking banner. Yeah, congratulations to Life Catch Pinball for winning that banner. And the fun is all in good nature because, again, Chicago's not a walk in the park either. But for Chuck Ernst and Steve Beattie, I'm Ken Cromwell. Don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long, everybody. you

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