# Episode 64: Top 5, TMNT Banner Giveaway, and Other Cool Stuff!

**Source:** Poor Man's Pinball Podcast  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2020-07-22  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://poormanspinballpodcast.libsyn.com/episode-64-top-5-tmnt-banner-giveaway-and-other-cool-stuff

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## Analysis

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast Episode 64 features hosts Drew and Ian discussing a golf outing mishap (Drew gets hit by a golf cart and briefly knocked unconscious), the state of pinball news (described as "dead"), and a top five list of games that surprised them. Key games discussed: Iron Maiden (positive surprise, both hosts independently chose it), Bad Cats (exceeded expectations at Expo), and Champion Pub (novelty appeal). The episode includes sponsor reads for Pinshades and Pin Stadium Lights, and laments the lack of new game announcements, particularly from Deep Root Pinball.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Modern Pinball (NYC venue) is closing its doors — _Ian states: 'Modern Pinball is closing their doors in New York City.' Drew confirms they've never been but acknowledge it as a staple venue._
- [MEDIUM] Deep Root Pinball's hype cycle has peaked and faded with no new game announcements — _Ian: 'The hype train left... their hype has come. It's gone. It came again, and now it's gone.' Both hosts speculate Deep Root needs to release a game to restore momentum._
- [HIGH] Iron Maiden won the Stern Bracket Challenge — _Drew states: 'Well, now I think this is a stupid number five. Nope, it's not. Because it just won the Stern Bracket Challenge, Iron Maiden.'_
- [HIGH] American Pinball is slowly shipping Hot Wheels machines — _Drew: 'American Pinball is slowly getting out Hot Wheels TurboGrafx7 just streamed Hot Wheels they did over at Dave Brennan's house.'_
- [MEDIUM] Riot Pinball made six Valhalla machines — _Ian: 'Riot Pinball, they streamed their Valhalla... I think the boys over at the Buffalo Pinball Boys... they're making six of them as far as I understand.'_
- [MEDIUM] Jersey Jack is expected to be the next manufacturer to release a new game after TMNT — _Ian: 'I'm assuming they will be the next release' after discussing TMNT shipping and other manufacturers' current status._
- [HIGH] Spooky Pinball is still getting Rick and Morty machines out — _Drew: 'Spooky's got nothing right because they're still getting Rick and Morty's out.'_
- [MEDIUM] Greater Lakes Pinball and Expose Pinball have largely disappeared from the industry conversation — _Drew: 'We haven't heard Diddley Squat from, what was it, Greater Lakes?' Ian: 'Oh, yeah. Expose. That's right. I forgot all about them because they just kind of fell off the map.'_

### Notable Quotes

> "The hype train left. I was about to say, their hype has come. It's gone. It came again, and now it's gone. It's done. It's gone."
> — **Ian**, ~32:30
> _Summarizes Deep Root Pinball's extended hype cycle and audience fatigue from lack of announcements._

> "pinball news is pretty much dead for whatever reason we're shipping turtles"
> — **Drew**, ~19:45
> _Expresses frustration with lack of industry news and new game announcements._

> "Release a game, get it out the door, say you did it. The first game doesn't have to be amazing."
> — **Ian**, ~33:00
> _Advice to Deep Root about manufacturing strategy and breaking analysis paralysis._

> "There's not a lot to talk about when it comes to Deep Root, and I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing anymore."
> — **Ian**, ~32:45
> _Indicates concern that extended silence from a hyped manufacturer is damaging rather than building anticipation._

> "I popped right back up because I'm like, if I don't get up, my wife is going to castrate me."
> — **Drew**, ~7:30
> _Humorous comment during recounting of golf cart accident after getting hit and briefly losing consciousness._

> "His head dribbled... it did that about three times"
> — **Ian**, ~6:45
> _Describes Drew's head bouncing on soft ground during golf cart accident._

> "We knocked the savant, the golf savant in his head loose... he was hitting the ball straight."
> — **Ian**, ~10:00
> _Joke about Drew improving at golf after the concussion incident._

> "I was shocked. I thought maybe I'd play Pirates more. I thought I'd play Houdini more. But we ended up playing the most... Iron Maiden."
> — **Drew**, ~42:00
> _Explains how Iron Maiden was an unexpected favorite and influenced his decision to buy the game._

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Drew | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; golfer who was hit by golf cart and briefly knocked unconscious; pinball collector/player |
| Ian | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; podcast editor; golfer; pinball enthusiast |
| Eric | person | Known as 'Episode 4 Eric'; golfing companion of Drew and Ian; drove the golf cart that hit Drew |
| Keith Allen | person | Pinball designer; designed Iron Maiden; described as best pinball player; first game made a strong impression |
| Zach Sharpe | person | Operator of Flippin' Out Pinball; sells new and used pinball inventory and mods |
| Josh | person | Attended MGC pinball event with Ian; present at Iron Maiden initial demo |
| Dave Brennan | person | Location where Hot Wheels pinball has been streamed; hosted American Pinball game |
| John | person | Operator of John's Arcade; discussed Radical pinball positively with Ian |
| Poor Man's Pinball Podcast | organization | Long-running informal pinball podcast hosted by Drew and Ian; Episode 64 is focus of this analysis |
| Stern Pinball | company | Major pinball manufacturer; multiple games discussed including Iron Maiden, Metallica, ACDC |
| Jersey Jack Pinball | company | Manufacturer producing TMNT (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles); expected to announce next release |
| Spooky Pinball | company | Manufacturer currently shipping Rick and Morty machines |
| American Pinball | company | Manufacturer shipping Hot Wheels pinball slowly |
| Deep Root Pinball | company | Manufacturer with extended silence on game releases; planned game features difficult ramp mechanic (Raza theme); subject of extended frustration due to lack of news |
| Riot Pinball | company | Homebrew/small manufacturer producing Valhalla (approximately 6 units made); hosted by Buffalo Pinball Boys |
| Haggis Pinball | company | Small manufacturer originally teased Wraith; pivoted to Kelts game |
| Greater Lakes Pinball | company | Manufacturer that has fallen off the radar; no recent communications or announcements |
| Expose Pinball | company | Manufacturer known for alien spy themed game; has largely disappeared from industry conversation |
| Modern Pinball (NYC) | venue | Long-standing NYC arcade/bar venue; closing its doors; considered a staple location |
| Flippin' Out Pinball | company | Pinball sales and service business operated by Zach Sharpe; sells new, used, and modded machines |
| Iron Maiden | game | Stern pinball designed by Keith Allen; won Stern Bracket Challenge; both hosts independently ranked as #5 game that surprised them; purchased by Drew |
| Bad Cats | game | Classic pinball machine played at Expo; ranked #4 by Ian as game that surprised him positively; exceeded expectations |
| Champion Pub | game | Boxing-themed pinball found at truck stop; ranked #4 by Drew as positive surprise; valuable novelty game |
| Valhalla | game | Homebrew pinball by Riot Pinball; approximately 6 units made; described as looking professional quality |
| Raza | game | Deep Root Pinball's planned game; features challenging ramp mechanic; rumored limited production and high pricing (~$10k) |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Pinball industry news drought and manufacturer silence, Deep Root Pinball's extended development and fading hype cycle, Games that surprised players (Iron Maiden, Bad Cats, Champion Pub), Golf outing accident and Drew's brief head injury
- **Secondary:** Current shipment status of games (TMNT, Hot Wheels, Rick and Morty), Venue closures (Modern Pinball NYC) and broader industry health, Small/homebrew manufacturer activity (Riot Pinball, Haggis Pinball)
- **Mentioned:** Disappeared manufacturers (Greater Lakes, Expose, potential others)

### Sentiment

**Mixed** (0.45) — Positive: hosts enjoyed golf outing, excited about games like Iron Maiden and Bad Cats. Negative: frustrated with lack of pinball news, concerned about Deep Root's stalled momentum, saddened by Modern Pinball closure. The episode is largely comedic and self-aware about the lack of substantive industry news.

### Signals

- **[sentiment_shift]** Hosts express clear frustration that Deep Root Pinball's extended silence has exhausted community patience; hype cycle has peaked and declined without product delivery. (confidence: high) — Ian: 'The hype train left... their hype has come. It's gone. It came again, and now it's gone.' Drew: 'There's not a lot to talk about when it comes to Deep Root, and I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing anymore.'
- **[venue_signal]** Modern Pinball (NYC) is closing doors; hosts note it as a long-standing staple venue and express concern this may be first of several location closures. (confidence: high) — Drew: 'Modern Pinball is closing their doors in New York City.' Ian: 'And they're not going to be the last, sadly. You know, this pandemic has been tough on a lot of people.'
- **[industry_signal]** Multiple small/mid-tier manufacturers (Greater Lakes, Expose, Wraith developers) have dropped from industry conversation with no updates or announcements. (confidence: high) — Drew: 'We haven't heard Diddley Squat from, what was it, Greater Lakes?' Ian: 'They just kind of fell off the map.' Discussion of Expose and Wraith also fading.
- **[product_launch]** American Pinball slowly shipping Hot Wheels; Spooky continuing to ship Rick and Morty; pace described as gradual. (confidence: high) — Drew: 'American Pinball is slowly getting out Hot Wheels... Spooky's got nothing right because they're still getting Rick and Morty's out.'
- **[announcement]** Iron Maiden won the Stern Showdown/Bracket Challenge, validating player interest and Keith Allen's design. (confidence: high) — Drew: 'Well, now I think this is a stupid number five. Nope, it's not. Because it just won the Stern Bracket Challenge, Iron Maiden.'
- **[design_philosophy]** Hosts critique Deep Root's rumored strategy of limited production and high pricing ($10k) without proven demand; suggest alternative approach of lower price point ($5-6k) with wider availability. (confidence: medium) — Ian: 'I think they should do the opposite. I think they should do... Crank them all out for six grand... Just get it out. It's been a while since we talked about it.'
- **[gameplay_signal]** Raza's prominent ramp mechanic is identified as challenging and potentially limiting game depth; hosts note it's the main shot without sufficient alternative play strategies. (confidence: medium) — Ian: 'For Raza, it seemed like that was kind of a major thing, that ramp... That's tough for me. That's a tough one.'
- **[sentiment_shift]** Both hosts independently ranked Iron Maiden as #5 game that surprised them positively; Keith Allen's first game exceeded expectations. (confidence: high) — Drew and Ian both chose Iron Maiden as #5; Drew: 'I really wanted a Metallica... But man, yeah, Iron Maiden, super surprising.' Ian: 'It wasn't until... I was like, wow, this game is amazing.'
- **[community_signal]** Riot Pinball's Valhalla (homebrew) is described as looking professional-grade, not like a homebrew; positive reception to small manufacturer quality. (confidence: medium) — Ian: 'It did not look like a homebrew. It looked like a legit pinball machine for sure... that game looked good. It looked fun.'
- **[product_concern]** Modern Pinball closure signals broader concern about arcade/pinball venue sustainability; hosts link to pandemic impact. (confidence: medium) — Ian: 'And they're not going to be the last, sadly. You know, this pandemic has been tough on a lot of people.' Drew expresses concern about other venues.
- **[content_signal]** American Pinball (Hot Wheels) and Riot Pinball (Valhalla) actively streaming gameplay at venues; Dave Brennan hosting streams; hosts interested in visiting. (confidence: high) — Drew: 'TurboGrafx7 just streamed Hot Wheels they did over at Dave Brennan's house... Dave has invited us over. We want to go check that out.'
- **[industry_signal]** Hosts repeatedly note absence of pinball industry news; resort to golf stories and top-5 lists to fill episode; indicate pattern of silence across multiple manufacturers. (confidence: high) — Drew: 'pinball news is pretty much dead for whatever reason.' Ian: 'There's no news. We say news, fuck off.' Drew: 'we gave up on pinball because there's no pinball.'

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## Transcript

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Math is hard. All right. Math is hard. We're not giving examples on here. Go to pinstadiums. Use POORMAN at checkout. Get your 10% discount. Tell Scott the Poorman sent you. And have a great day. Oh, yeah. It's time. You've waited a week or more, and now it's finally here. The time has come for the sloppiest show on the Internet. This week's episode of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Starring Drew and Ian. That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over. I'm gonna need someone to help me I'm gonna need somebody's help Son of a bitch, give me a drink One more night, and it can't be me Son of a bitch, if I drink it clean I'm gonna drink my way Welcome to the 4-Man Spinball Podcast, episode number I don't even know. It got confusing. 64, letter B. It got confusing, kids. So, Drew and Ian here. And, Drew, how you doing, bud? I'm doing great. We missed you guys last week. We, you probably think, okay, they probably think that Drew and Ian got lazy. This is a really good story. Didn't want to record shit. Yep, not true. and we we want it we want it not only did we record one we recorded a fucking friday as well so we recorded two episodes and they haven't heard any of them no we recorded two last week what happened ian uh we were off i know what happened so we were here and we recorded an entire episode and it was awful it was bad drew and i were both in bad moods for whatever reason And we realized that, and we said it to each other about halfway through, but we're like, oh, we're here, so we're trying to get back on the rails. And this wasn't like it went off the rails, it was drunk stupid. It was just bad. Bad shit. And then, so we kind of limped along through this episode. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, we weren't even drunk. It was just, we limped along, and then we said, okay, let's do a Fuck It Friday, and we did it. And then that was awful. Yeah, it was bad. And at one point, I thought it was going reasonably okay, but it was still kind of bad. And Ian's like, yeah, let's just end it there. And that was like the end of it. I was like, let's end it. Drew, go home. And then when I realized what was happening, I was like, yeah, it's probably good. But then the story gets even better because Ian had a really busy week at work, and he does our editing, as he often tells you guys, which is great. And it was Wednesday, and I'm usually off on Wednesdays. so I'm doing some stuff at the house and I'm like I'm gonna listen to our episode and I turn on the episode or I'm sorry I open up our page and the episode's not there and I'm like huh Ian didn't post the episode I think this was late Wednesday night actually so then uh I'm like you know what he probably didn't post it because it was that bad and then we talked to him the next day and I told him that and he started laughing and he goes no I've just been really busy at work and I said, well, it's probably good. Let's not post it. Then we agreed not to, and here we are a week later. Yeah, we'll probably post it sometime. We will. I mean, we'll let you guys listen to it. It's fine. I mean, there wasn't a whole lot of info. I mean, it was just our chemistry wasn't there. I made fun of a lot of old people. There's some ageism jokes. People are probably going to yell at me for that. I'm not happy about it now that I think about it. Yeah, but we'll probably just put it out as some sort of bonus thing or something. bonus bonus well that's probably the wrong word yeah as an extra punishment there you go you guys stop listening to us we're gonna just do a punishment episode this is gonna be our new our new format yeah soldier are we talking uh are we calling this episode 64 is that what you want to do this is our official episode 64 okay 64 guys congratulations everybody we did it together What a milestone. What a milestone. So, Drew, what are we drinking? I'm drinking water. Drew's drinking water. I'm drinking a squirt. No booze today. Why is that, Drew? We had a rough, well, yeah, we had some fun this weekend. Ian and I went golfing on Sunday. It's now Monday. We went golfing with Episode 4 Eric. Yep. I love that man. Eric is always a good time. Eric had never golfed before. It's been a few years since I've golfed. And I've golfed sporadically in the last couple of years, so we were a bunch of duffers for sure. Oh, yeah, dude. We just, oh, man. We did some serious drinking. We did that. That we did. We had a little sun, little booze, a little beer, cigars. Yep. Yeah. 11 a.m. tea time. So we get there. We get two golf carts. So we got two golf carts. We got two golf bags. And we're off. Three people. three golf bags yeah so 11 a.m tea time and we're out there we're having fun it's not too sunny so it's it's a great day and uh why don't you tell them what we were getting up to up on that golf course i don't even know where we're gonna start with this uh other than we played golf man it was slops we played slop um best ball so whoever hits the best ball that's kind of where we went with that so it still took us for fucking ever all day long it took 18 holes can you imagine how long that would have took us if we would have just played straight yeah oh yeah people behind us would have been so pissed uh so i guess let's just go right into the funny stuff right because nobody wants to hear about how boring we play golf uh because golf isn't really one that you can talk about and entertain people but guess what get a concussion during golfing that's actually pretty goddamn funny so let's talk about concussions in golf shall we like i said round hole 10 11 12 we were just silly drew had that look in his eye like so drew's drew's drunk levels kind of go from here all right so first you get happy drew you know he gets kind of smiley and giggly that's how i usually am on the podcast and then you uh then he gets into um um which one's first i think it's klepto drew uh klepto drew pops up that's when he wants to steal everything off the bar's walls or something and then we go into destructo drew and then we just uh my wife's least favorite by the way yeah the destructo drew is ridiculous and uh drew was driving and uh his cart you know early on i think it was like hole five i was having fun with it hole five drew is already silly drew he's goofy drew these are these are pretty fast cards yeah and then a whole uh by a whole 11 12 somewhere around there he went he skipped klepto drew went right to destructo drew and it got bad where eric was like i don't want to ride with this fucker anymore and eric was like i'll drive so eric's driving this cart and i'm driving trying to find my ball and i look up and there's Eric. He's aiming right for me with his golf cart and Drew's punk ass is he's got like one foot out, hanging off the edge. He's got his golf club in hand like he's jousting me and they're going hard at me. I just thought I'm going to have a golf club in my hand. Like I said, I was looking for my ball. I just hopped in to try to find it and so I aim at them because fuck it, I got some liquid courage too and we're going at it And, you know, in our early years, we probably would have gotten closer to each other. But we're old men. And I think we chickened out about 12 feet apart. Yeah, it was a ways. It wasn't like we were trying to smash the cart. So I want to, you know. You know, we weren't that dangerous. But Eric took a hard left. But Drew did not. drew went drew went flying out of this cart and all i could see was drew tucking and rolling and he rolled a good uh 12 feet it felt like him and uh it was all good you know i drive right around his limp body and uh but that last little bit i could just see his head just go my head my head balanced like you know if you have your hand on a basketball like real close to the ground his head dribbled it did that about three times because like up until that point he's right i was fine because i knew it was happening i'm like oh shit you know this is gonna be bad and i i roll and then that last part i i hit my head kind of but you know we're on we're on grass and it was it actually rained really heavy the day before so it was you know softer ground which that was probably a good thing but holy fuck that was you know and then and then the only thing i I popped right back up because I'm like, if I don't get up, my wife is going to castrate me. Because I'm just thinking right at that instant, I'm like, if I come home or if she has to meet me in the hospital because I was fucking around on a golf cart with Ian and Eric. Because that would be the thing. You know, at first it'd be concerned for Drew. Like, you know, he broke his leg or broke his arm. And then when she finds out what happened, she'd be like, yep, you're driving home yourself. I don't give a shit. so yeah that was uh god damn that was the funniest fucking thing i ever saw god it wasn't funny when his head bounced i was like oh shit but um i saw that he was okay i asked him if he was okay he said fine yeah no he was fine but he sobered right the fuck up oh totally he went from uh an 11 to right back down to a two he was like well i guess gentlemen we'll uh start playing golf again and And what was amazing, I was shooting better after that. Yeah, we were joking that he knocked the savant, the golf savant in his head. It's like the one time where the girl can't see and then the donkey kicks her and she can see again. Oh, it was. But this is Drew. He's probably hitting the ball straight. Because I didn't get seriously injured, this story will go down as one of those stories. And then the second thing I thought was, I can't believe I'm almost 40 years old and this is what I'm doing. like like ian said if we were like 20 and we were doing this it's like oh you guys are a bunch of dumbasses i want to ran you over with the car exactly and and it's we would all jump back up no shit but now it's like i might not get back up or 40 it hurts when we get around no and i was i had a i rarely ever get headaches my head hurt a little bit that day you know it wasn't a concussion i was fine i went home and whatever but the next day i woke up you know i had those those body aches because oh man i hate my body aches yeah it's from swinging that damn club no shit they're using muscles we haven't used oh man so uh i don't i regret nothing for the record for the record regret nothing we would uh done the same exact thing and i would have probably aimed for his ass i told my wife because i'm like you know what's going to happen we're going to be out with the wives and this story is going to come up and probably eric's going to tell the story and then I'm like I'm just going to tell her now because I don't want this coming up at some party. Pull the baby up. Yeah. I was like this is going to come up at some party My wife already going to be mad at me about something and this is just going to amplify it So I like yep Nope she just called me an idiot And she said exactly what I thought She said if you would have hurt yourself you would have been on your own Yeah. Nope, that happens. Yep. But it was a fun day. Goddamn, that was fun. We talked about this because I went golfing on some golf outing with my work a few weeks back, and we were joking about it. I was talking with Ian. He goes, yeah, I take clients out sometimes. And then we're just like, we need to do this. and we did it and uh yeah so fun so fun golf is uh you don't have to be good at it that's the best part it's like bowling or anything else just go do it yeah i would say it's more fun when you are with someone with equal or lesser yes skills than you yes because then nobody's judging anybody you don't feel like you're holding up the group you know you're just like yeah the fuck it no that ball sucked oh well who cares next next hole baby we did we did a full 18 and it felt good yeah we hit par a couple times yeah good it wasn't too bad for for for a couple of non-golfers but that's golf baby so all right so that's our golf story i hope you guys enjoyed that uh follow us on facebook like us on facebook follow us on twitter you guys have a great week just kidding just kidding all right so we're gonna talk a little pinball so pinball news is pretty much dead for whatever reason we're shipping turtles yeah and we haven't heard anything from Jersey Jack I'm assuming they will be the next release Spooky's got nothing right because they're still getting Rick and Morty's out American Pinball is slowly getting out Hot Wheels TurboGrafx7 just streamed Hot Wheels they did over at Dave Jeff Brenner's house didn't get a chance to see it have you yet no and usually I just pop in to say hi but for whatever reason I think I was doing something with the wife or whatever but no they've been streaming pretty consistently and Dave has invited us over. We want to go check that out and play that. So we need to get on that. So hopefully I'll be able to get out there sometime this week and play myself a little Hot Wheels and let you guys know what I think of it. But other than that, that's news, baby. Oh, Modern Pinball is closing their doors in New York City. Yeah, I've never been. Well, neither have I. But that's just one of those places they always talk about. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, it's one of the, you know, the staples. You know, they always talk about, like, Logan's Arcade in Chicago. I was going to say, Logan's. I know Logan's. Galloping Ghost. Yeah. But there's several in, you know, on the East Coast, the West Coast, these places you hear about. And I guess they've been in business forever, and that's sad. They're closing their doors. So, you know, and they're not going to be the last, sadly. You know, this pandemic has been tough on a lot of people. Right. Right. That's the sobering news. I'm wondering about some of these other guys. I know Riot Pinball, they streamed their Valhalla. Oh, yeah, they made like six of those or something? Yeah, they're making six of them as far as I understand. It looked like a lot of fun. I think the boys over at the Buffalo Pinball Boys. Yep, that's it. And boy, that game looked good. It looked fun. Yeah, it looked fun. It did not look like a homebrew. It looked like a legit pinball machine for sure. So that was cool. I got to see that. I was watching that a bit. I wonder what's going on with some of these other guys, some of these smaller companies. We haven't heard Diddley Squat from, what was it, Greater Lakes? Remember them? Oh, yeah. Expose. That's right. I forgot all about them because they just kind of fell off the map. I mean, Deep Root. Deep Root, mates. Let's stop and just talk about Deep Root for just a moment. I mean, I know it's all speculation. Absolutely. that's what we do best but what is happening i mean they've had all this time now to continue to code games build a few games do something why do we think they couldn't reveal something during the pandemic i mean now would be a good time right anytime now yeah any day tomorrow we have nothing to talk about kids can you give us something to talk about play golf now we gave up on pinball because there's no pinball yeah no there's not a whole lot there man you see that new putter i got yeah yeah do you guys want to hear that no talk about bring out some new games please i have a i have a golf glove a glove for my left hand and they called me elite eric and drew oh we were making fun of ian with his fancy stuff playing with old clubs and well my clubs i were got for $200 and my glove I got on clearance for like literally it was like five dollars I know and like we were joking you know there's guys out there listening right now they're like yeah I paid $500 for my driver yeah and my glove yeah my clubs are like I think they're top flight like it's the shittiest brand it's like it's meant for assholes that golf once every 10 years like I I had a hodgepodge from my father-in-law thank you Mike I know he doesn't listen but it like there were some Wilson Clubs. Number one listener. And some Bear Clubs. I mean, there's just like 10 different brands. So Deep Root. Yep, Deep Root. See, I'm just showing them why we need games. Fucking ridiculous. Yeah, that is exactly my point. There's not a lot to talk about when it comes to Deep Root, and I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing anymore. No, I think they're – The hype train left. I was about to say, their hype has come. It's gone. It came again, and now it's gone. It's done. It's gone. You know what's going to happen. Like we talked with Canadians here. They just need to release it. The first game doesn't have to be amazing. Yes. Everyone is, you know, they hyped it up enough to the point where it's supposed to change the game, you know, change the pinball landscape. But really? What do you think about the... Release a game, get it out the door, say you did it. The rumor they're not going to make a lot of this first one, and they're going to charge, like, a decent amount of money. like 10 grand what's the point yeah what the fuck you doing then yeah i don't know unless it's something that is desirable why the fuck would i well they're talking about like they make it limited like i understand but it's still not desirable nobody cares about raza that way yeah no that's that's a good point this isn't like a uh back to the future big lebowski dream theme where you can go elite like that. No, this is Raza. Yeah, but some guys just like the rare games. I think they should do the opposite. I think they should do... Crank them all out for six grand. I say strip it down to where you can make money at five grand. And just sell the show. Just get it out the door. Make it an easy build so you guys get experience. Get it out there. Just make sure the art's badass and make sure the cabinet's badass. and that's what I would do personally. Just get it out. It's been a while since we talked about it. Did you like the art on there that they had? I know it's not the final and they had... The color scheme at the show, I like the color scheme. It reminded me a little bit like Creature from the Black Lagoon's color scheme. The purple and the green. Yeah, the green. It's kind of cool. I would... I think when you see it in person, it probably pops a lot better than those damn videos. Those cell phone videos. So, yeah, no, I mean, looked pretty. Looked like it was fun to shoot for the most part. That ramp's a bitch. And since that's the main feature of the game. That makes it tough. It does make it tough. I know, like, with Oktoberfest, the left ramp's a bitch on mine, but it's makeable. But I was telling Drew the other day, even with Oktoberfest, there's so much more to do that I don't focus all my efforts on the corkscrew ramp. I focus on, you know, the beer barrel. I focus on the modes. Well, you can play 100 modes on there. Yeah, I focus on a lot of things, getting steins. I focus on a ton of other things. There's a lot of different strategies for that game. But for Raza, it seemed like that was kind of a major thing, that ramp. I mean, it takes up some real estate. It's the ramp. That's your big shot. Yes. So that's tough for me. That's a tough one. Yeah, and I just feel with this pandemic now, I mean, they are not going to be able to put together a crew to make games. you know it shall be interesting bro but where's your crew we're running into 2021 where's your crew we're family that's my vin diesel all right yeah we're family we're family of buttholes it didn't land the second time either i'm gonna keep saying it until it's real funny well i'm laughing but fucking family okay there you go diesel oh that was hilarious fast and furious starting now. I'm going to be funny starting now. Alright, so that's that. We haven't heard anything. We haven't heard shit from Greater Lakes, Expose. That was like the alien spy thing, right? What happened to Wraith? Wasn't that another one from somebody? Yeah, but that was another one where they made a handful of them. Yeah, I don't remember the... Wraith was supposed to be a horror pin. Yeah, they made six of those, too, I think. I don't think they made any Wraith. They didn't make any? no oh i'm thinking of a wrath of olympus oh that was the one they made a few of yes they did yeah one so that was andrew highway wasn't it i don't know that one was yeah there's six or seven in the world and people are asking like maybe i'm wrong 20 grand for those but it doesn't matter doesn't matter moving on we're just talking out of our ass yeah ian here editing away uh we were talking out of our ass surprise surprise surprise but uh yeah so it was haggis haggis pinball haggis pinball actually did the wraith teaser originally and clearly they have put that on the back burner for kelts so um makes sense now that i think about it moving on with kelts because that's probably more of a wider appeal uh wrath of olympus obviously riot pinball who is doing Valhalla. So, wrapping it up in a nice, tight little bow, back to your regularly scheduled shit show. So let's do a top five, Drew. Want to do a top five? Yeah, I want to do a top five since there's no news. No news. We say news, fuck off. And now it's time for everyone's favorite top five. This is a cool top five. Why don't you explain it to her? This is top five games that surprised the shit out of you. Now, that could be a good surprise. That could be a bad surprise. So either you thought this game was awesome when you saw it, and then you played it and went, wah, wah. Or you heard amazing things. You get in front of it, and you play it, and you went, oh. Or you didn't expect anything out of the game. You heard shitty stuff about it. You hit the start button. You go, oh, shit. You know what? I kind of like this. This is pretty fun. OK. That's the chance. There's a chance it could be good. There's a chance it could be bad. Why don't you kick it off with number five? Number five. Well, now I think this is a stupid number five. Nope, it's not. Because it just won the Stern Bracket Challenge, Iron Maiden. I had no expectations on Iron Maiden. Keith Elwin's first game, we didn't know Keith Elwin was going to be a killer designer at the time. It was released. I know he had his fans, and I understand that he's the best pinball player. But when we went to play at, we were at a bowling alley, they had, what was their lineup? They had an ACDC, a Metallica, an Iron Maiden. Pirates. Pirates of the Caribbean, which are from Jersey Jack, which is what we wanted to play. Yes. And a Houdini. That's right. That was their lineup. Yeah, this is just. Fuck. This is literally just a blue collar bowling alley. And we're like, good Lord. We went to play Pirates. Yep. We were so excited to play the New Jersey Jack game. And what did we end up playing the most out of all that? Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden. We were just like, dude, the shots were great. The art was great. The rules were fun. The animations were fun. And that was when I was debating. I really wanted a Metallica. And I was debating then between Iron Maiden and Metallica. Right. And made the decision to get Iron Maiden. I was shocked. I thought maybe I'd play Pirates more. I thought I'd play Houdini more. Houdini just kicked my ass so bad when I first shot it. I was like, oh, fuck this. And Pirates was $2 a play. Pirates was $2 a play. But even then, that left out in lane. On Pirates? Yeah, that left. That fucking thing dropped me every time. I kept losing my ball. I was like, oh, fuck this. $2 gone. $2 gone. Oh, yeah. It was like a slot machine. It was just. Yeah, it was bad. ACDC was fun. And Metallica is fun. But man, yeah, Iron Maiden, super surprising. and I was glad you bought it. You know why we're best friends? My number five is Iron Maiden. We seriously, as always, we didn't know what the other one was doing. Oh, that's funny. So my reasons, so that story we just told, that was slightly after my first impression with Iron Maiden. It was a month or two earlier at MGC and I'd been in pinball for a little while. It's loud in those places. My daughter was born. I didn't go to the MGC. That's right. I was there with Josh. Everyone's talking about Iron Maiden. They got three or four of them out on the floor. And I'm like, all right, I'll go see. I can't hear anything because it's super loud in there. I play a few balls and I'm like, eh. It just didn't resonate with me right away. And it wasn't until, like Ian said, I got in front of it where I could hear it and play it and really get to know it a little bit better that I was like, wow, this game is amazing. Because for me, it was the theme. And I was like, yeah, I don't care for Iron Maiden. So there you go And it became one of my favorites and won the Stern Showdown And your first new in box My first new in box Flippin Out Pinball You want a new Stern Boom, we have you covered. You want a new Chicago Gaming Company remake? Boom, we have you covered. You want a brand new Shiny from JJP? Guess what? Boom, we have you covered again. P3 Multimorphic? We can do that too. We got mods, shaker motors, even some used pinball inventory. Flip N Out Pinball also sells the Stair Climbing Escalera Hand Truck. Email Zach at Flip N Out Pinball or call or text 812-457-9711. Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. Flip, letter N, Out Pinball. All right, so my number four, I switched this, but this just took me by surprise. I was actually at, this was at Expo, and I wanted to play Radical. And because I heard good things, I remember John from John's Arcade talking it up. I remember a lot of different things from Radical, and I was like, oh, I can't wait to try this out. And it looked really pretty. Like the guy who had it there, whoever brought Radical to the show, that game was phenomenally well-preserved and beautiful. But I went in line, and I was like, fuck this waiting. I'll just play the game next to it. What is it? Oh, this Bad Cats game. had so much fun playing bad cats in fact i think i missed my turn on radical because i was so into bad cats because i was at expo yeah that was right next to the radical game and i played bad cats for a solid you know three or four games i just couldn't get enough of it and then i finally got on radical and i was like man bad cats is a little better now granted bad you know when you're at these kind of shows though you can never tell how deep a game is maybe it's not deep at all i don't know i never got that into it but i just remember the shots being so buttery smooth i loved the theme i thought it was hilarious the cats just fucking around so bad cats that was my number four that is surprising and good uh my number four so ian called me one day and said hey you'll never guess where i am and i said where and he said i'm at a truck stop and i said what so there's this uh truck stop right off the interstate by our house um you know they have like a little restaurant and they got some you know arcade games and stuff and he goes there's a champion pub here at the truck stop so ian and i had been into pinball for a little while you know we we saw a champion pub we knew they were expensive and uh you know it looked like out of these cool toys so we played champion pub and at first i was like this game is awesome yes it's champion pub and and it was one of those games like holy crap i can't believe this thing cost what like five thousand dollars yeah right when you first play it you're like you look at it you're like look at all the cool stuff there is and then there's the big guy in the middle and it's a cool theme you know you're like a brawler yeah fight club you're boxing old school boxing and school boxing um you know how could you go wrong ian and i always like the game the arcade game tapper yeah it kind of goes along with that hand in hand that was that era you know the the old bartenders and the old boxers wearing the the white beaters and yeah you know come on fool yeah So I definitely won't call this game a novelty. I've gone on record saying that the game is fine, it's fun, and it is fun. But after playing it and experiencing it, the value isn't there for me. It's just one of those things that, like I said, Dwight Sullivan put in some good work. It's a fine game. There's nothing wrong with it. But the value for what it is just isn't there for me. I get it, man. So, yeah, the more we played, the more I was like, eh, I'm okay. I'm good. Once again, this is one of those games, if you have a large collection, it's great for a large collection. Yes. If you have 10 or 12 games, put a Champion Pub in your collection. Yeah. Because that would just be cool. Hey, I got. It's a cool, like, break from regular pinball without it being. I got Ghostbusters. I got Iron Maiden. I got this Champion Pub. I'm sure someone would play it if you were at a, you know, a party and you had, you know. Easily. in a game. It's kind of like our experience with Cactus Jacks. Yeah, you gotta play it. Yeah, you just have to play it. The toys are cool. Oh, do I play Woz or do I play Cactus Jacks? Ah, Woz looks pretty, but did you see these fucking cacti? They're dancing. Did you see these cacti? You know what? I knew what they reminded me of. Those little soda can dancing guys. Remember those from the 90s? Motion activated. The little dancing guys. Nope. Oh boy, here, this is like my Street Sharks thing. Whatever, Drew. Oh, here we go again. Hey, hey. Whatever you say, bud. I'm sorry. I don't know. Yeah, we got the email. They were everywhere. They had plants. Oh, the plants I know. Yeah, they're just motion activated. I think that was the 90s, right? Yeah, sure. Yeah, so you'd walk by this thing, and it was there playing a song and dancing. That's what those cactus remind me of. Cactus jacks, baby. So there you go. Anyways, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about Champion Pub. Champion Pub, baby. so so champion was my number four for game that surprised me like i said it it surprised me in a good way it was fun to play but and in the end it just it wouldn't be a buy for me all right um we got number three my number three uh i think it should be on everyone's list of surprises um the first time you stood in front of a tna the light show the soundtrack total nuclear annihilation was one of those games that was like it it opened up a whole nother level of pinball for me because here's a very challenging game but not only that it before you even press the start button it was calling to you you know um and even the challenge of it just being a single you know if you weren't into early solid states if you weren't into early you know the ems and stuff and you walked in front of a game like that that didn't have that soundtrack and didn't have that light show you probably wouldn't think much of tna but because of the theme the light show the whole complete package actually that's one of the best package games which makes it together want he makes you want to play it makes you want to play it so um tna would be uh my surprise number three yeah it's funny about that a that was on my honorable mention list and i needed one uh single level game for my list that wasn't a requirement but i was like i definitely need one on here so so tna was going to be on there but i went with another one and that is stern beatles yeah that's a shocker definite surprise because we we heard about this thing you know ian's a little bigger uh beatles music fan than i am you know the beatles are fine i like their music you know i'm a casual beatles listener but you know it's just it is what it is and i hear about this thing and then you hear it's a single level and you're just kind of like okay whatever and you guys have heard this story before we were we were at uh expo mgc oh sorry it was mgc we're at mgc we get in front of this thing we play it we both just look at each other like oh my god this is so good you know i knew it was gonna look beautiful yeah yeah sure it was a it was francie art package but you know it was the beatles and it was like okay it was fun it's just yeah and now it's to the point where i'm like that might be on my list someday you know like i might want to own one uh martin listener number 15 and tribe member number two uh he bought one a couple months ago and he's really happy with it yeah so awesome yeah that's a big big surprise for me i did not think i was gonna like that as much as i did all right number two uh number two i put baywatch and i think we've talked about this at nauseam but fucking wasn't expecting much of baywatch and sat in front of it and played it and i was like this game shoots like a dream it's got a lot of colors it's got the big dmd um there's not a whole lot i don't like about that game it really was a cool game so i don't really have much to say about baywatch number two number two uh my number two is another stern uh iron man you know you stand in front of this thing and you go meh you know it's got it's got plastic ramps it's got you know a kind of cool center toy it's a borg design so you're like oh you got this center bash toy which you know and it looks a little uninspired sorry john it's just that's how it is but then you start playing this thing and the whole world just opens up it's it's an ass kicker it's a good game um another one i may may own someday um you know first few times you're like meh and then it turns into whatever the opposite is yeah there you go so john borg sorry that and if john borg's listening that was probably the only one of your designs that i went meh to when i first saw it you know guardians i liked out of the gate metallica i liked out of the gate turtles we know i like out of the gate so you know almost all of john borg's designs i see him i play him i'm like this is awesome that one just took a little while longer to grow i mean got it so all right i love you john borg all right so my number one game that surprised the shit out of me was so i'm a big fan of star wars i love star wars i love pinball from the 90s and early 2000s and what happened when i sat in front of an episode one this is your basement but get out episode one star wars episode one pinball 2000 what people screeching into the oh you're what a shit game what a shit game do you think i like this game oh see i thought he was going the other way with that no that was a shit show so you thought you were gonna love this thing i thought maybe perhaps pinball 2000 this is gonna be neat right i did i I had a lot of hope. You're such a turd. Star Wars. Is there anything that Phantom Menace has done right? Nope. Shit movie. Nope. Shit toys. Shit pinball. I bet you their lunchbox falls apart. Shit lunchboxes. I've seen it. It's terrible. Shit shirts. Yeah, it's awful. Episode one Star Wars. Maybe Darth Maul's double-bladed lightsaber. Did that really happen? Did Star Wars Episode One really happen? I'm pretending it didn't happen. You know, they're trying to say that George Lucas wants back in. Of course he does. But he wants the rumor, which is a bullshit rumor, but the rumor is that he wants in, but he'll only come in if Disney retro destroys this last trilogy. Oh, really? And he wants to start a new trilogy right after. Isn't that ironic, George Lucas? A little too ironic. Yeah, I really do. I know I always ask you to edit stuff and you usually don't. Can you edit that song over this for sure? Because George Lucas coming in and saying, hey, those last three movies were so bad I'd like to erase them. Yeah. Can we redo those? Drew and I have been trying to redo the prequels for years. Oh, my God. Nobody wants to listen to our ideas. Oh, it's terrible. I have a million ideas to redo the prequels. That's not confirmed. Oh, God, no. I don't think he's coming back. No. Again, same joke as the Dan Marino joke last week or two weeks ago. Yeah, for sure. He's got the coolest job. He's George fucking Lucas. he has a billion dollars on top of his other billion dollars. Yeah, I was going to say, he's got more than one billion. The fucker can do whatever he wants. Yeah, that's a true story. He can just do his own... Well, yeah. No, I get it. Well, that'll be a tangent for another day, but we will get into that. So mine, at first, I thought I was going to love this game. Then I played it, and I hated it. Then I played it more, and I loved it. And today, I'm still unsure how I feel about it and it's funny that we were just talking about this Stern Star Wars oh wow because you know you hear that this game's being made I was uh like just getting into pinball because I was like 2016 right so they're they're announcing this thing like late 2015 early 2016 whatever it is I'm I'm new to pinball I'm like great Star Wars then I see all these other great games and then I see this barren play field and I'm like what is this uninspired art uninspired artwork and and my wife who's not a pinball person i think i've shared this before she said she goes why would you you wouldn't want that one in your house would you and i'm like no and she goes yeah it looks looks awful i think is what she said and she usually doesn't have much an opinion about my games so i'm like okay cool and you know i play it you know i enjoy it on location it's star wars i have some fun with it but i'm like ah but then then the rules and then the multipliers and then the stacking. Then you learn how to play it. And then all this great stuff. And it's fucking Star Wars. Yes. Right? Yes. And then the comic book edition comes out. Oh, God. The comic art. And then... It's puffing my penis up just thinking about it. This fucking game is one of the few... So Metallica is the one game that's coming back for a second time in my house. Most games I can just say, you know, I'm not going to buy this or I might buy this. This game, I go back and forth literally every month. I'm buying it. I'm not buying it. How many times have I said this? Yeah, like all the time. Too much. And because you play it and you're like, that's kind of fun, right? And then you see the comic art and you're like, that's fucking cool. Well, Drew, if you ever sell Turtles or if you ever sell Jurassic Park, just whatever money you get back from that, just buy a fucking Star Wars. And play the shit out of it. Play it until you say, okay. Enough is enough. Enough. Yeah, that's a good plan. I like that. I will end this now. you failed me for the last time and then make the lightsaber sound you have failed me for the last time mees I like this game Ian get out I don know how many times I can tell you get out of your own basement Get out Last week we were off. This week I'm just editing all of Ian out. Oh, the moppies. What's up, little moppies? Oh, you know, we need Moppy and Jar Jar to have a debate. Oh, the moppies. Oh, Moppy. Moppy. Oh, they gave me some shit about that. Who did? The Puppet Pals people. Yeah. Oh, really? put it on their facebook by the way we heard that they had a quote unquote interview with moppy and uh i want everyone to know he does not do cocaine oh that's awesome he's more of all i think they said he's more of a liquor guy or something oh man that was funny oh that's too good well you know i'm still waiting for what episode number two on puppet pals and i'm still waiting for macho to get off the yacht and actually throw down on this podcasting ring you know what i thought this was supposed to be the year of macho uh people say it like it's hard to podcast when there's no news and they're right it is yeah and with this pandemic and stuff you know i'm not making excuses but it's you know it's been tough but uh you know we keep plugging away i'm not calling anybody out i'm just saying we does everyone miss canada he gave us a lot of good uh material oh i knew that No, I'm chuckling because he did say that, and when he said that, everyone kind of groaned and stuff. But me, I'm like, yeah, he's right. Oh, I know. We pilfered stuff from you all the time, Chris. Yeah. We love you, brother. Absolutely. We don't know what we're talking about. Fuck no. So, Chris, email us at poormastinbossgmail.com. What should we talk about? Tell us what you would say on this week's episode and next week's episode and the 10 episodes after that. Yeah. You got our email, dude. Yeah. Let us know. Come on. Just message us. You got our number. What the fuck are we going to bitch about now? Yeah. Just give us – this is what it's going to be, the top 10 rants. We'll rant off for the next 10 weeks. Perfect. All right. so if you could do that in like a i don't know a uh windows microsoft windows uh microsoft word format probably 95 sure sure my computer will work then and see that so our rock computer yes thank you chris appreciate that 200 words or less please um all right double space so what else we got so that was our top five that was our top five that's a good top five it was all right It's not too bad. So what do you want to do now, Drew? Who fucking knows? Hmm. Big hmm. Hmm. What have you learned this week? Well, I learned that without Kaneda, we don't have anything to talk about. I also learned without the booze, we still laugh a lot at our stupid jokes. We do. That's good, though. That's good and healthy. Yeah. That's real good. I also learned we can't golf or shit, but it's still fun. Yeah, exactly. see it's just like podcasting i also learned that if i smoke cigars i i hurt the next day that next day like you know we we got home in the afternoon four or five o'clock or whatever but you're right the older you get it's just like that whole day's gone and then the next day you wake up you got to go to work or something it's it's tough yep and you know the wife's pissed because you didn't you know mow the lawn so there's that too yep it's different there's a lot of a lot of layers of that onion well mine uh mine rolled into today because my bosses took me out on a boat Antonio Cruz today like a booze Antonio Cruz i was gone all day and i come home and i got the raccoon eyes from my um beautiful bride yep from my no no for my sunglasses because i was taking the sun right i was taking that a whole different and if you guys ever see the the thumbnail on hbo or whatever for Eastbound and Down with Kenny Powers. There's a picture of him without his sunglasses on. He's got the raccoon eyes. And my wife just pissed. She says, you look like that guy from that stupid show. And I was like, oh, she's mad. She never even watched the show. She just said. So today were you fuckhead then or fuckface? Yeah, for a moment. Before I got here, though, I went back down to assface level. Assface. So I'm in the clear. What's the beginning? Buttface. Buttface, assface, fuckface. Yes. yes yes yes the rating of all popular marriages butt face term of endearment ass face annoyed annoyed fuck face i'm in trouble you're fucked yeah fuck face is fucked all right so anyways that's what we got well we still filled up about 45 minutes of nonsense for you out there so welcome welcome buttholes welcome to this shit show we did it that's that's pretty amazing actually yeah that went by fast yeah top five lists are great no wonder orby does them so much yeah every other week he's like i'm gonna do a top three i'm gonna do a top five five reasons why the poor man's pinball podcast is still good thanks orby you can do that one next all right so no we appreciate you guys listening uh we are going to have some more stuff coming we just it's been just crazy at work i'm talking about our giveaway yeah let's not skip that Almost forgot. Edit, edit, edit. Okay. No, no, it's fine. No editing. We're just going to keep that in. There's going to be no editing in this episode. 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We just got to take those down. We got Franchi and Holderman, and then we're like, this designed by Ian. Fuck off. Just jokes. We always laugh because the one is literally just words. We always say that, too. The OG shirt is just words. The original shirt, man. I love that shirt. It is one of my favorites. I wear that one all the time. PinballPrices.com. He gave us a bottle of booze. Do not forget to check out pinballprices.com because Doc Finlay does an awesome job, and you're in the market for a pinball machine, as we all are. You need to know the prices. That dude has compiled a shit ton of prices for your viewing. It's actually astounding. Yeah, I don't know what that guy does for a living, but I assume it has something to do with pinball prices. He checks prices. All day I just see Doc going, this is me clicking, click, click, click, click, click, prices. What else happened? You know what? I do have a quick, cool little story. Stern had posted on Facebook, I don't know her name, but it was like a model in front of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, some Instagram model. She could be a full-on model. I don't know. But, yeah, she's very pretty. She's on their Facebook page? Yep, yep. They just recently did this within the last day or two. But she's a big pinball fan. Oh, legitimately? Yeah, I checked out her Instagram, and I noticed, I don't know, about last month, she was hand painting a table, like a cocktail table, Drew, and it was the shape of the creature from the Black Lagoon, like the side art where he's swimming and stuff. Yes. So she's taking that and making a table in the shape of the creature from the Black Lagoon swimming. That's pretty fucking cool. And I thought it was the coolest thing I've seen. I was like, this girl knows what she's doing. Maybe her and Franchi can make some beautiful art together, if you know what I mean. Well, Franchi, if you're listening, you've got to look her up. You've got to go on Stern's page and check that out. Because, yeah, she's beautiful, and she is a hell of a pinball personality, because I can tell she's really into pinball. She's got a league thing going on in Pittsburgh there. So, yeah. Is that her? Oh, yeah. That's her. Yeah. What's her name? I don't know. This is just the Stern. Do they have pinball and social distance? Well, her Instagram thing is RobThomasOfficial with underscores there. Okay. I think her name is on her Instagram page. Okay. Oh, man. Very cool. Very cool stern. And, yep, and that turtle looks amazing, too. It does. All right. So that's about all I got, dude. That's it, man. Should we wrap it up? Let's wrap it up. We did good for our week absence. All right. 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