# Digital Vs. Analog: Guardians of the Galaxy w Flipstream **Source:** Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 **Type:** video **Published:** 2023-02-26 **Duration:** 74m 19s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Vaql_H3ME --- ## Analysis Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 hosts a "Digital vs. Analog" showdown featuring Flipstream playing physical Guardians of the Galaxy (Stern) against a virtual pinball recreation. The hosts conduct multiple challenges including one-ball high scores and mode completions (Groot Multiball, Sanctuary), discussing gameplay mechanics, strategy differences between platforms, and the symbiotic relationship between virtual and physical pinball. Flipstream shares how playing the Incredibles virtual recreation inspired him to purchase physical machines, challenging the notion that digital pinball cannibalizes the physical market. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] Virtual pinball (via Incredibles recreation) directly inspired Flipstream to purchase physical Guardians of the Galaxy machine — _Flipstream stated he played the Incredibles V-Pin version, enjoyed it so much he purchased the physical table from his local distributor who had one in stock_ - [HIGH] Multiple virtual pinball content creators (Incredibles team members) now own physical pinball machines as a result of working on virtual recreations — _Host states: 'When I started working with the Incredibles, when I started with the Incredibles, none of them had pins. Now we all own pins. We all do.'_ - [HIGH] Rocket kicker power differs significantly between physical (high kick) and virtual (default gentle) versions of Guardians of the Galaxy — _Host demonstrates that changing Rocket kick power variable from 30 to 60 in virtual version matches physical machine's aggressive kicker behavior_ - [MEDIUM] Virtual pinball is spurring physical machine purchases rather than cannibalizing the market — _Host states: 'if with all the all the people worried about oh you know virtual is gonna gonna you know it's gonna kill off physical pins no it's absolutely not It's going to spur the purchase of it.'_ - [HIGH] Flipstream streams on Sunday and Thursday evenings at 7pm Pacific time — _Flipstream directly states streaming schedule during broadcast_ - [HIGH] Sanctuary mode in Guardians of the Galaxy does not retain progress on drain, unlike other modes — _Flipstream explains: 'if you drain you lose your progress on this mode unlike all the others it does not carry your progress over'_ - [HIGH] Hadron Enforcer mechanic allows players to bypass Rocket kicker as final shot by strategically completing other shots first — _Flipstream provides detailed strategy: hitting 2-3 Hadrons, clearing everything but Groot and Rocket, then using Hadron to finish mode without shooting Rocket_ - [HIGH] Flipstream sold Jurassic Park to purchase Guardians of the Galaxy physical machine — _Flipstream states: 'i had just sold jurassic park it actually prompted me to go out and buy the actual physical table'_ ### Notable Quotes > "Virtual is not going to kill off physical pins. It's absolutely going to spur the purchase of it." > — **Host (Mystery Pinball Theater 3000)**, ~00:12:00 > _Core thesis challenging industry concern about virtual pinball cannibalization_ > "When I started working with the Incredibles, none of them had pins. Now we all own pins. We all do." > — **Host**, ~00:13:00 > _Evidence of virtual-to-physical conversion among content creators_ > "Rocket shoots incredibly fast now. Just all your fault." > — **Host (to Flipstream about kicker power difference)**, ~00:24:00 > _Highlights mechanical differences between physical and virtual versions_ > "I got BORGED! I got BORGED!" > — **Flipstream**, ~00:33:00 > _Reaction to draining early in one-ball high score challenge_ > "If you drain you lose your progress on this mode unlike all the others it does not carry your progress over from Baltimore" > — **Flipstream**, ~00:52:00 > _Key gameplay mechanic explaining Sanctuary mode difficulty_ > "I stream on Sunday and Thursday evenings starting at 7pm Pacific time except for this Thursday because I'm here today" > — **Flipstream**, ~01:33:00 > _Direct community engagement information about streaming schedule_ > "If you want it to be like flip stream's, you go into the script. You change the variable that says rockets kick power from 30 to 60." > — **Host**, ~00:24:00 > _Technical guidance for matching virtual and physical gameplay_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | Flipstream | person | Content creator, Papa Duke advocate, virtual pinball enthusiast, owns physical Guardians of the Galaxy, Godzilla Premium, Hot Wheels, Rocky and Bullwinkle; streams Sunday/Thursday 7pm Pacific | | Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 | organization | Pinball streaming show/channel hosting digital vs. analog challenges | | Guardians of the Galaxy | game | Stern Pinball machine used for physical comparison; also has virtual recreation via Incredibles platform | | Incredibles | product | Virtual pinball platform/recreation that inspired multiple content creators to purchase physical machines | | Godzilla Premium Edition | game | Physical pinball machine owned by Flipstream | | Rocky and Bullwinkle | game | Physical pinball machine, Flipstream's latest acquisition | | Hot Wheels | game | Physical pinball machine owned by Flipstream | | Jurassic Park | game | Physical pinball machine formerly owned by Flipstream, sold to fund Guardians purchase | | Papa Duke | person | Referenced as pioneer in pinball automations; Flipstream associated with Papa Duke community | | Marty | person | Stream chat participant known for gifting bits to multiple streamers | | Stern Pinball | company | Manufacturer of Guardians of the Galaxy physical machine | ### Topics - **Primary:** Virtual vs. Physical Pinball Market Dynamics, Guardians of the Galaxy (Stern) Gameplay Mechanics and Strategy, Virtual Pinball Platform Recreation Accuracy - **Secondary:** Content Creator Influence on Hardware Adoption, Kicker/Mechanical Tuning Differences Between Platforms, One-Ball High Score Challenges and Mode Selection Strategy - **Mentioned:** Streaming Community and Schedule Coordination ### Sentiment **Positive** (0.82) — Enthusiastic, collaborative tone throughout. Both hosts express genuine enjoyment of the games and respect for each other's skills. Playful banter and friendly competition. No negativity toward game design or manufacturers. Celebratory of virtual-physical crossover success. ### Signals - **[community_signal]** Virtual pinball content creators (Incredibles team) driving adoption of physical machines among content creation circles (confidence: high) — Host states entire Incredibles recreation team now owns physical pins as result of project involvement; Flipstream specifically purchased Guardians after playing virtual version - **[design_philosophy]** Sanctuary mode design intentionally punishes drain with progress reset, creating difficulty spike relative to other modes (confidence: high) — Flipstream explains Sanctuary uniquely loses progress on drain unlike all other modes; hosts discuss strategic approach to avoid this penalty - **[market_signal]** Evidence that virtual pinball recreation serves as gateway to physical hardware rather than substitute competitor (confidence: high) — Multiple creators cite virtual recreation as direct inspiration for physical purchases; challenges narrative that digital cannibalizes physical sales - **[product_concern]** Flipper responsiveness issues on physical machine during gameplay (left flipper misfiring on multiple attempts) (confidence: medium) — Host notes: 'twice I hit my left flipper and it did not fire' and requests game restart, attributing to potential bug/mechanical issue - **[technology_signal]** Mechanical tuning differences between physical and virtual versions of Guardians of the Galaxy requiring variable adjustment to match behavior (confidence: high) — Rocket kicker power significantly different (default 30 vs. physical 60); host provides specific technical guidance for matching behavior in virtual version --- ## Transcript The American Pronunciation Guide Presents ''How to Pronounce Here We Are'' Here we are. Here we are, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another digital versus analog battle. Let us not belabor this point at all and show the beautiful Mr. I feel like playing the Alfred Hitchcock theme right there. Good evening, everyone. You know him, you love him. It's Flipstream. You guys know Flipstream, right? How you doing, buddy? I'm doing alright. How you doing, man? Good. Great. Wonderful. I'm playing pinball. I'm happy. Hey, did you... I'm dating this video now, but did you get a chance to look at any of the reveal stream of the 20th anniversary bond on Deadflip today? yeah it's pretty good it's not worth twenty thousand but it looks like a fun game oh my god well yeah okay that's all he's got to say about that let's get to the action what's up big big red pimp hey big red pimp I'm Leonard Denver I am diggity dang dog right Shaq match of the century I don't know maybe match match of the match of the Tuesday evening? Yeah, basically. Match of the Tuesday evening between now and an hour from now. Yeah, pretty much. Oh, there's Marty. Attention. Incoming wave to the pinball theater. I think Marty was spying on us before. I think he was. I think he was trying to check to see how far along your intro was. yeah all right thank you hi marty thank you for the raid martin i wonder if i pissed him out by calling him martin that would be funny you must be the flipstream guy hey flipstream what games do you currently have and i mean pins because i can see arcades behind you but which pins do you have right now? Pins, pins. I have Godzilla Premium. I have the Guardians of the Galaxy Pro that I'm playing tonight. I have Hot Wheels, and then I have Rocky and Bullwinkle, which is my latest edition. Rocky and frickin' Bullwinkle, man. I got to come over and play some of that shit. You're welcome anytime, bud. Oh, my God, that is so cool. And you fixed it all. We'll keep the guest room open for you. Thank you. Retro Geek, thank you for the sub. I'm not getting any of my sub sounds. Oh, there they are. Oh, I don't have them on this scene, that's why. But I see them. Thank you. You guys are awesome. I can hear them. That's Pink's sound, though. That's his walk-in sound. There's Paladin. Paladin? So that people on YouTube don't complain to me. I said it. Damn it. Good. Hey, guys. How you doing? It's those damn nested seeds. See, I've got all my alerts turned off. I can't. I can't do that. And that's when I went totally crazy. Really? Wow. Well, it took a while to finish that story, but, man, that's amazing. All right. Greetings, MPT3K. Thank you for hosting us this evening. One moment. Sorry for the interruption. What's up, Control Light? My apologies to you, MPT3K and Pinbot, for the previous theater takeover. Flipstream made me do it. Oh, that's all right, bro. Why did Doc make you do that? I'm sure he did. I know he did. That's okay, bro. Instead of a swear jar, I have a negativity jar every time I have pessimistic thoughts. It's currently half empty. Alright, we're going to do this now, okay? Let's look at what... Let's go to the feud! RetroGeek, thank you for the sub. Flipstream's ControlBot. ControlBot is way smarter than PinBot is. I know that for a fact. What's the difference between sanitizer and moisturizer? One will burn your eyes, the other will moisturize. Ah, moisturize. Okay. So today, ladies and gentlemen, here's what we're doing. We're going to have a little fun. Flipstream and I are going to do some flipping on this game right here. As you can see, on that side, on that side, there is a real, I don't want to say real. I always say physical. It's all real. It's everything. Yeah. Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. But Flipstream has Guardians of the Galaxy Pro. Flip, when did you get this game? It's actually a funny story. So I got this, it was roughly October-ish? It was the Portland Retro Gaming Expo. Hey Grummy. Hey Grummy. So, it was shortly after the Incredibles release of the V-Pin. I downloaded it, I was playing it, we did the whole challenge takeover thing, downscarboard support which you know everybody needs to go check out um i was having so much fun playing that and i had just sold jurassic park it actually prompted me to go out and buy the actual physical table because my local distributor actually had one in stock so he had it reserved they kind of ghosted him so he ended up selling it to me and i brought home a guardians that weekend that and i kind of knew that story and that blows my mind that it makes me so freaking happy dude that that some of the influence i'm not gonna say all of it but some of the influence of the pin credibles recreation of this got you into it and interested enough to go out and buy it i mean that is you know if with all the all the people worried about oh you know virtual is gonna gonna you know it's gonna kill off physical pins no it's absolutely not It's going to spur the purchase of it. So just real quick, and then we'll get started. When I started working with the pin credibles, when I started with the pin credibles, none of them had pins. Now we all own pins. We all do. Mr. H., Harlan, the fishbowl, I forgot their names because, I don't know, they're my friends, but I forgot their names, and myself all own physical pinball machines. and I think it's just because we all love pins. There you go. So I'm so glad you could... I'm jealous as hell because that's one of my favorite games. But, yeah. How you going, Rob? Good to see you. Yeah. Yeah. 8Bit. Surreal is here. 8Bit says, Agreed. vPin has pushed me to start looking at real pins for the Arcane Room. Thank you. Nice. Right here, right here. All right. Oh, thank you, Marty. Thank you for that. Marty, you know to share some of that over there, right? Over there. You know to do that, to share some of that over there. Marty is the only person. No, no, no. Marty is the only person I know who will do that. Like, he will go over to your channel and give you bits too. What's up, Ill Robinson? What's up, buddy? I'm going to wait for my score bit app to blow up. Thank you for the bits, Game Club Central. All right, let's get started. Bubble is necessary. Yeah, well, it's not necessary to me too, but if you've got some bubble gum, you need to share it with the rest of the crowd, right? So, Flipstream, what we're going to do, right, and you know this, is we've got a bunch of challenges. In between each challenge, we're going to do a one ball high score, which I think is brilliant that you thought of that. I'm so going to lose tonight, but that's okay. That's all right. Inconceivable! Inconceivable. So if you give bits to the streamer, you need to give bits to everyone in chat. All right. Well, there you go. All right. So we're going to start off with a one-ball high score challenge. We're going to get it going. It's a good thing I'm drinking some Amy juice. I got I got aha I got sparkling water like I normally do there we go thank you Rye I love that you get everyone's sounds in one stream right now yep most of my control box though not everything and then I just hit it with the truck and it was dead. That was a great story. Maybe there was a way to tell it shorter. We've been here for a while. All right. All right, here we go. We're going to do, and I want you folks to watch, you know, look at the differences and the similarities between the virtual pen and the physical pen. All right. Balls in a Shooter Lane. Yep. This is, oh my God, that's super bright. I need to bring that down a little bit. There we go. Hold on. Hold on. I got to log into mine. Okay, you log in. I can log into mine too, but gosh darn it. Why are you making... No, I'm not going to log in. Maybe I should log in. Gosh darn it. Why are you doing that? Hey, Flipstream, I think this is the first time... I think this is the first time Scorbit and Insider Connected was ever used simultaneously on stream. Maybe? Maybe? It could be. That's exciting. Imperial Stormtrooper Ramp Missing Tournament. That's pretty accurate. That is pretty accurate, Lynn. I don't have a badge. I'm not a school's Manu. I don't have the badge. There we go. Log in, Manu. Okay, I did it. Okay, okay. All right, so real quick, what mode are you going to choose? We're doing a one-ball high score. What mode are you starting with, Flipstream? I was actually just thinking about that. I might start off with... This is a good question for me, too. I'm going to buck Trent, and then I'm going to start off with sibling rivalry. All right. I'm going to start off with... You're doing music in only my left ear. I'm not. Am I? Let me see. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. And maybe that's just surreal hearing music in their left ear. All right. I'm going to do pod shakes. Did it just go away? Oh. I don't want your phone to get muted here. Did it go away? Okay. It's not mine then. Let's see. Is it mine? Oh, yeah. It is mine. It was mine. it was mine. My bot's going to be fine because I don't put that stuff on the right channel. Alright, here we go. Ready, buddy? Alright. Yep. I guess we don't really have to start. Yeah, you can just start. Whatever. 3, 2, 1, go. I'm doing Podchase. And Pong, apparently. Upgrade is good. Who is that? I don't know. I don't think I just fall safe. This is supposed to be very pathetic. Bumper Nugget, thank you for the raid. Welcome in. Oh, damn it! I'm done! Damn it! Really? Yeah, I got BORGED! I got BORGED! I got BORGED. 4 million. 4.7. I still gotta climb a bit. Alright, I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I got BORGED. I'm gonna go ahead and drain these balls. Don't do that on Twitch or get banned. So 4.7 is the score you gotta beat. I should have not actually done anything and just left the score up there. But anyway I think you got me though Save for starting a multiball? Go for it You got me now, don't you? I think you do You clearly got me now Yeah You still didn't beat me though I got 4.7 You still Oh, now you Okay, I'll Well, okay. 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.6, 5, 5, 7. And he has a real tilt bob, Manu. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Marty. Just like Manu. Oh, 50 Okay, yeah, I think you're safe I think Flipstream, I think you're safe Am I? Keep going Should I keep going? Nice Now I'm really pissed off Exactly Alright, good win Here we go This one is for Flipstream What's up, Terry? He does, Terry, he does. He does. Yes, I do. Beautiful. Flipstream, well done. All right, we're off to a good start. I think I picked more lucrative mode, but I couldn't keep the ball on the table. And that was that. My plan was just basically I didn't care really too much about the mode. I mostly wanted to get to group multiball so I could get into multiball. Right. Well, speaking of which, my friend, what the first challenge is? Is it or multiball? Oh, thank you for the bitty game, Club Central. So, Flipstream, first challenge is first one to get Groot Multiball started. And the question is, how do you get Groot Multiball started? Well, I'm glad you asked. Boom. Groot Multiball. so Groot Multiball started by shooting Groot in the mouth to open his mouth then shoot balls into his mouth do not get dirty people once three balls are locked in his mouth you start Groot you start Groot Multiball so um in the default uh the first Groot Multiball to be specific is three ball locks. Everyone after that. Thank you, 8-Bit. Every multiball after that is a four ball lock. So that's why you have a fourth light underneath group. Just so you guys know. What's up, fiends? Now, fiends, you have just missed Flipstream beating me in the first challenge or in the first single ball high score mode. What are you drinking, Flip? Blue Moon. Oh that right You mentioned that That right You mentioned that What up with you Cammy Maybe I need something Maybe I need to go in there and get a libation It's aiming juice. It is. It's Try to Tilt's version of aiming juice. Oh, wow. Alright, balls in the shooting lane. Oh, you got your ball in the shooting lane. I got my ball in the shooting lane. And I'm going to match you, actually. I'm going to go to Yaka, too. but uh all we're going to do is what we're trying to do now folks is start group multiball i need everyone in chat and when i say everyone in chat i most basically mean surreal i need everyone in chat surreal to keep an eye on who gets group multiball started first now this is at any point, if you drain all three balls, you still can start a new game. But as long as the first person to get group multiball going, you can go as long as you need to. Hopefully you don't need to go long. All right, Flip? All right. All right. Why don't you count us off? Oh, now. Okay. All right, you ready? Yep. Three, two, one, plunge. I'm on the wrong flipper. There's one. There's one. I punched the ball already. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. We got ball saves running. This. Okay, why is it when I'm trying to hit Groot, I'm hitting the save targets? Yeah. Oh, come on, Manu. There's two. There's two. And I'm telling you just to intimidate you. Oh, there's two. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. I thought that... Yeah. Hit him in the freaking mouth already. No. And... Goop started. Yep. I was about to say, you definitely got me. Well done. All right. All right. All right. It's one to one. All right. I'm going to let these suckers drain now. Oh, man. Oh. By the way, Flipstream. Rocket shoots incredibly fast now. Just all your fault. Good. All your fault. I'm going to start this up again. Let's do it. Boop. So I need to let friends know if you guys are... Hey, what's up, Splod? I need to let you friends know that if you are playing... You ever seen a grown man naked? If you're playing the virtual version like I am of Guardians of the Galaxy, I highly suggest if you want to make the game a little more like this guy's, you go into the script. You change the variable that says rockets kick power from 30 to 60. Because we did some comparisons between me and Flipstream's game, and we tried to line them up as close as possible the rocket default is very gentle to you but if you want it to be like flip streams put it to 60 it's nasty you cannot adjust i would turn it down if i could but there's no option in the physical machine settings to turn down the kicker power on the rocket shop eight bits i don't want that i don't want that i don't i don't want it either i don't have a choice yeah that's why i turned mine up because because uh flipstream doesn't have a choice so i turned mine up just to be fair and it fires the bowl right into the it almost knocks the freaking flipper off so uh yeah so there you go um i'll do mine you said 60 yes 60 vp fiend set it to 60 and that'll make it fast yeah um physical table seam and flipstreams um probably yeah i would say so yeah they'll they'll come to fault with a high kicker uh power out of rocket yeah yeah um what's up cell oh guardians um all right we're gonna go back to uh what another one ball right another one ball high score yep yeah i think so right all right so this is real versus v-pin no self-processing it's analog versus digital all right man calm down geez bro settle settle dude by the way i want to make sure that everybody here right now in chat please follow flipstream and there are many reasons to follow flipstream but number one Flipstream is pretty much one of the pioneers of the automations and stuff and also Flipstream added one very important plug-in to the Riff Theater that we wouldn't have at the Riff Theater if it wasn't for him I don't know what to go that far by the way Flipstream I have another request of a plug-in if we could chat later for Sammy and extension all right cool thank you um one pair of pants later oh that was a great game oh man it was uh what a tie you killed me you killed me. No, you killed me. You killed me right here. Alright, here we go. Here we go. Alright, I'm going to start with I'm going to start with Quill this time because I'm stupid, okay? Alright, here we go. One ball, high score. Three, two, one, launch. Ooh, nice. I got the I got the fancy skill shot. Oh you did! Oh skill shot! Oh I forgot about skill shot points. So if you play Quill's Quest everything is a hurry up. So once you hit a jackpot you can hit another jackpot for I think 2 million. Which is exactly not what I'm doing right now Which would be nice if I did it Crackling in the oven? Oh, son of a gun I think I have a bug with my game I mean, with my flippers Yeah, I'm blaming it on the flippers now Stay in, stay in, baby Oh, I flipped that. Okay, I'm going to have to restart. I died again. I died again. You died again? Yeah. I think my... I'm going to accept the loss, but I think my flipper is misfiring, so I'm going to restart my game. Because twice I hit my left flipper and it did not fire. 13 million. You got me. No. I had a bad bounce off Groot. I had a bad bounce off Groot. Okay. Manu is disqualified for having more than one ball. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Flipstream, I see some people calling bullshit on me. Is Manu disqualified for having more than one ball in play? He did say one ball. What do you think? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Because I could have just as easily picked that mode. I was joking? Okay, you know what? I was going for multiballs. I was looking to start... Hey, Mr. Scoot. I'm just... I'm not... I'm not... I'm not... I'm not. I'm not. Nope. Can't do it. I'm not going to go there. I won't do it. Okay. All right. What's up, Scoot? All right. So here's what we're going to do then. Flip stream. For every battle after this, we'll start in the same mode. Because I think the friends in chat, I think they're... We're using different strategies. Now, here's the thing. For the challenges, we can do anything we want. But I think for the one ball challenges, right? We'll do same modes. Agreed? That's fair. All right. We'll do that for now. All right. So that one doesn't count. We're going to go to the next challenge. The next challenge is Sanctuary Much. Oh, Sanctuary. Sanctuary Much. So the object in this challenge is to complete Sanctuary. And how do you do that? Well, I'm glad you asked. completing sanctuary yep start sanctuary from the scoop so you have to start or the whatever and then hit drop targets I mean the stand up targets 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 the one all the way to the right is one of the hardest ones alternatively you can hit the ronin orbit on the left alright once you have hit all the stand up targets or Ronin, what, five times? Or whatever. You can do a combination of the two, actually. Yeah. Right? You can do a stand-up target and you can hit Ronin. You have completed Sanctuary. So, once again... Now, there's... You've got to tell them about the catch about this mode, though. Go for it. Two things. If you do the upgrade, so for every single one of the modes, you have the upgrade shot on the scoop basically you hit the scoop again for sanctuary it allows you to hit the hadron stand-up targets more than once for the mode because otherwise when you hit it the light goes out and it no longer works for advancing the mode but if you i'm hard to hear me i can get a little closer um but if you hit that upgrade it does allow you to use that target more than once the other thing is if you drain you lose your progress on this mode unlike all the others it does not carry your progress over from Baltimore that is true it will keep your emulation progress but do very boring minutes later correct it won't spark you any targets but you can't keep your emulation but we're not going for emulation right now we're going to complete sanctuary right all right I think that was well explained my friend thank you for the extra stuff that's what we're here for oh I just passed them I should probably start to take off yeah let's get balls in the shoot lane and let's get sanctuary active so you expect me to hitting faster than yours ah there's a a bug um you expect me to hit all these lanes and not train seems like it seems i am never getting sanctuary done yeah sanctuary is tricky break sometimes you want to bring sanctuary into uh with a multiball that may help you a little bit yeah um but you know there's eight modes it's yeah go ahead i was gonna say it is nice to have the multiball cushion. Unless you're really good at that left orbit. Because it is only five. Yeah. So you either hit all five Hadrons or Ronin in some capacity, which will bypass it. And you cannot use your Hadron in four. You can't. So you can't get shot spotted. I have a multiball cushion. multiball cushion. Don't we all, Mr. Stute? All right, here we go. You ready, buddy? Yep. All right. As soon as you're done with Rio over there. I know. Going to try the holes in my backboard tomorrow. Oh, nice. Hollywood. Let us know how that goes, man. That should be awesome. All right. Do the... What is the thing? I forget it. Do the stuff. Eat the thing. I forgot my own catchphrase. Ready? Three, two, one. launch there's the upgrade for me Oh Uh-oh. Oh, Rocket is mean. Uh-oh. I got one more shot. I got one more shot. Already? Yeah. I really had ball control here. Boom, done. Boom. I did it! One more. They're trying to distract me. Oh wait, who did pinball? Wait, oh Marty did pinball, because Flipstream usually does pinball. so so um flip stream i'll tell you the first thing i did was in order to utilize the ball save i did the soup i did the skill shot to get the ball just to the flippers immediately and that way i could take some random pot shots but be safe with the ball save as opposed to shooting for the skill shot up the top you know what i mean So I did left flipper Left flipper, hold the left flipper It'll come all the way around Are we back? Oh yeah, did we leave? What happened? Yeah, I just lost everything for Since the middle of that Oh, okay No, you've been here for a while But I guess you just lost it Yes, we're here And I I won Okay I'll have to take your word for it because I have no... Oh, okay, okay, okay. And I was explaining the one thing I did, which was to do the super skill shot to get the ball to the flippers immediately and then start taking pop shots with the ball save on. So that was that. Shell shock says I'm lying. What is Beethoven's favorite fruit? A bar in A in A in A. That one doesn't work quite as well. about an a and a and a wait what is beto the traitor uh uh banana banana banana right banana banana wait a minute oh oh got it got it okay Banana na Banana na Thank you Banana na Banana na Banana na Okay Um Alright Cool I guess we will get queued up For another Another Single ball challenge In the meantime We might completely lose the stream here Yeah that was weird Um In the meantime Flip stream I'm going to switch back over to here for a second can you please let everybody know what you do and when you stream and all that stuff, that fun stuff so yeah very similar to Manu I stream on Sunday and Thursday evenings starting at 7pm Pacific time except for this Thursday because I'm here today and we've got the kiddos band concert thing this Thursday but other than that it will be a Sunday-Thursday schedule. You added Thursdays. It used to only be Sundays. Right? Is that right? No, I've been two days a week. It used to be Sunday-Wednesday, but then I changed it to Sunday-Thursday. That's right, that's right, that's right. I feel like I don't stream on Thursday, but I stream in the afternoon Thursday, so by then I can kind of hang out and watch everybody else. Cool Which I love to catch your streams on Thursdays except I working Yeah yeah you at work yeah most people most people who catch me on thursday don catch me any other time and so i feel like obligated to stream on thursdays because that's when i see the people i only see once a week kind of um has a has set up a betting pool for who tilts first oh we're not we're not very tilty well maybe I'm a little tilty oh well okay flip stream just won let's go back here alright you monster Tim he knows how to get me dancing again again with the pictures you'll see it later Hollywood it's not on this scene Chuck Norris is the only man who can fight himself and win. Yes, yes. A brother was a hardcore martial artist. Yes. A black man can kick some ass in Kung Fu. Ask Jim Kelly. It was Kareem in, what was it, Enter the Dragon? Well... He stands up and he's like super tall. Well, but he doesn't really know, like, Kareem, did he? Sir, please try not to miss this time. Oh, well, he's... Thanks, Kareem. He's clearly talking to you. Yes. Control Bot calls me sir, so yeah. Oh, okay. Pin Bot doesn't call me at all. Do we have another one ball? God dang it. Really? You ever seen a grown man naked? We do. We have another one ball challenge coming up. All right, Surreal, I'm going to let you pick the mode that we're starting in since we want to make this fair. You want Surreal to pick the mode? Surreal, you pick the mode. Well, let's see. Surreal, pick the mode. Versus? Well, that doesn't. Oh, no, we're not in the Rift Theater. All right, never mind. I'm going to let. Okay, Surreal doesn't know the mode. So flip stream. No, I'm going to let Marty Game Club Central Game Club Central Pick which mode That we have to do this one ball Challenge on Game Club Central is going to pick for us Let's watch the screen Not Nowhere though Oh, not Nowhere Not Rocket Stop, shut up you guys Who would win Wait It's a poll It's a poll with one person who would win? Chuck Norris. I vote Chuck Norris too. Can I vote? I can vote. Alright. No, just give us a character mode real quick. Marty, give us a mode. Give us a mode. Who is it? Who's gonna be? You got Podchase, Yaka Arrow, Quill's Quest, Escape, Kill, and Sibling Rifle for your Antiquity. Rocket is not in mode. Oh, he means kill him. He means kill him. Oh, my God. He means kill him. He means kill him. Oh, jeez. He means kill him. Escape kill him. All right. Let's go. Let's go. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I normally wait until I've got a H-Rod Enforcer. Yeah. Thank you for the follow, Dr. DJ Roddle. Roddle R? That's a cool name. All right. So remember, friends, we're starting on the same mode, but that doesn't mean we have to stay on the same mode. Okay? Once we get the game going, we can go whichever path we want. All right. All right. It's good because the last shot has to be the rocket shot. Or does it? Unless you have a Hadron Enforcer. Woo! Not a lot of people know that, Flipstream. Not a lot of people know that. And thank you for teaching me about that. You got it, man. You got it. All right. Here we go. uh flipstream i'm gonna let you uh you know just count us off just for fun i know we don't have to start at the same time all right three two one go all right i've tried oh meta nightman meta nightman i can show you right now if i can do it let me see if i can do oh i don't have any hadrons so i can't really do it you need hadrons to do it that's the trick and we're going for a high score we're not necessarily trying to um high score i thought we were first to complete the mode No, no, that's not where we're at. We're in one ball high score. Oh! Well, dang it. Do you want to start over? Are you okay? No, no, no, we're fine. We're good. All right. This is... No! Damn it! I hated her so much. It, it, the it. Flames, flames on the sides of my face. Breathing, breathless, keeping breaths. Did you die? Yeah. I'm at 2.6 million. Okay. I'm at 3.9. I hate you so much. It... Flames! Flames! Because he doesn't want to be spotted. This is for Flipstream. Same Borg flipstream. Same Borg. Really? Yep. Exact same one. A free game. Isn't the game already set to free play? Exact same Borg. Alright. I'm just draining these puppies. I'll save. That's where I want them to go to. Hey, we're tied! Meta Nightman. Just so you know. when I usually play, I don't play Kiln first, right? I wait for me to have two or three Hadrons. So if you play it this way, wait for yourself to have two or three Hadrons. Three is great. Two is fine. One is a little pushing it. Clear everything but Groot. Do not hit Groot. That's the key to not having Rocket be the last shot. If you hit Groot, you screw up this whole trick. Once you're down to just Groot and Rocket, the Hadron will allow you to Hadron yourself down to one shot left. And the way Hadrons are collected is they're collected left to right, right? Well, Rocket always stays lit. So if you Hadron, if you keep trying to Hadron over, Rocket will keep collecting that shot. once you're down to one shot left Groot will still be lit smack him in the face and you're done normally what I'll do is I'll wait until I have one Hadron Enforcer I'll hit three of the Nova Corps rollovers hit the Hadron Enforcer burn its three and then hit Groot and that finishes the mode so you can finish it with never having to actually shoot the rocket kickback shot now obviously the nice thing about the rocket kickback shock is it advances rampage but yeah but like what's your risk reward there right you're finished thousands of tears later and then just came out of nowhere and just wiped everything out that's so cool thank you meta yeah yeah yeah so anyway um Alright, we're two for two I'm digging this Borg hates me tonight I'd have to say I'm putting up a much better fight than I did I did not think I'd be doing nearly this well Well, I got some bad news for you Speaking of Rocket The next challenge is Starting Rampage That's it That's all I got. Oh, no, and I have this too. Boop. To start Rampage, you just have to shoot, well, rocket enough times to spell Rampage. I think you get spotted the first R-A-M or R-A-M-P. I think you get spotted the R-A-M. R-A-M, right. Or maybe it's Ramp. Is it Ramp? I thought it was what? You have to hit him three times? The first time it's by default rules. I think it's... Right. We have RAMP. We have to go AGE. Now if I... You can grant a letter, yes. A mystery can, yes. Yeah. So maybe you want to shoot the scoop? I don't know. But... Only if you have the mystery lit. Only if you have the mystery lit. Now, is it still okay to start this mode with Quill, because I'm going to start this mode with Quill. I can do it easier with two balls. So maybe we both start with Quill. Yeah, let's both start with Quill. Let's both start with Quill. Damn, can I... Shell shock. Damn, where can I get tutorials with the yellow tables? You know... You just have to watch Menu's mods later. You know, Flipstream, the first time I did the arrows was with when I challenged Lynn in Denver on a firepower and I thought it was a great idea until I had to do them for every single one of these. That's where you screwed up you set a bad precedent. Well you set a really good precedent. You have to... Hey Jedi. What's up Jedi? How you doing buddy? Miss your face man. Yeah. Well all All right, let's get this going, okay? So first person to start, Rampage, by shooting Rocket over and over and over again. You just give yourself the point now? No, I'm not. We'll see. All right, we'll see. All right. Let me sign into my Scorbit, and then we start. Ready? And three, two, one, fire. Oh, wait. I switched to nowhere. Dang it. Oh. Do we want to restart? Well, never mind. I'm good. I can't. I can if you want. I haven't hit it at all. I still haven't hit it. I may have screwed myself by having two balls. I may have screwed myself by having two balls. I actually said that. Oh, I got robbed. I broke down. I don't know. But you can try as much as you can. Alright, stop it, man. Just hit frickin' rocket. It won't go in. It won't go in! Sir, might I recommend nudging a bit softer? Yeah, thanks, Control Bot. Screwing yourself by having two balls. I still haven't hit it yet. I have one shot on it. That helped not. And one ball walk for group one. Oh, you suck. I should have done the same thing. Oh my god, hit him! I can't hit him. I got bored again. Just don't drain all the balls before you get Rocket going. Otherwise you gotta restart. That's it. That's it. This one's gonna take a while. This one's gonna take a while. Oh, man. You're just murdering me today, Rocket. Come on. It's like we're playing tennis. we're like never date a tennis player to them love means nothing I swear between you and Marty bro I haven't hit this thing yet I gotta start over alright now I'm actually gonna do a cool squat to start that's too bad okay here we go I'm not too worried about sorting over because you haven't hit one yet. Matty, do you need to see the tutorial again? I need to see the tutorial again. Oh, gosh darn it. I'm going to finish Quill's Quest before I actually hit these rocket shots. Do you guys know how tight this shot is, though? It's like ridiculously tight. It's so tight. I'm going to do, you know what? I'm going to do Groot multiball and see if I can do it with Groot. And before you tell me I can't do Groot with Quill, I've already failed the Quill multiball. So the second time around, you can do it with Quill. I can't do it because I just drained all three balls. Oh my goodness, I bricked. Try it again. Starting a new game, buddy. This one's going to be fun Starting a new game Really weird definition of the word fun I'm going single ball on this one I'm going single ball There's one finally Oh my goodness Gosh darn it Really kids You got it Two Oh shit All right, I got one. Come on. Finish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got one. Give me the ball. Boy, that kick out is beautiful, though, now, man. Now that I made it at 60, I love it. Boom. Yes. I got it. You got it? I got it. Oh. Oh. We got one! Here you go, buddy. Oh. Okay, now I've got it dialed in. Well played, bro. Oh, my God. I was so tired of that mode. Yeah, you and me both. Oh, so well played. Good job. Oh. There it is. I knew I was going to regret that one. Thank you, Shell Shock. All right. I'm just weird flexing. Well, here's what we're going to do. While you're still flexing, I think we're going to skip the next single ball and we're going to go right into the next challenge. Yeah, because it's already... We're already pretty much close to being done time. So I think we can do the next two challenges, actually. Yeah? I can't even remember what they are, so yeah. All right. They are... The next challenge is... Complete Nowhere. Ah, that's right. Alright. So, um... Why did we pick Nowhere? I can't remember. Because it was moderately longer than Laudato Si. Laudato Si. You have an unfair advantage for Antiquities. Hmm. Yeah, I got Spinners for Antiquities, yeah. So I don't want to do that. Well, let's take a look at Nowhere. How do you complete Nowhere? I don't know. Loop it, yeah. Yeah, you can loop it. Here, check this out. Loops. To complete Nowhere. Nowhere mode. Start Nowhere from the scoop, just like always, or from the shooter lane. Hit all eight red shots. So you're going to get red shots showing up. But if you upgrade, you get more shots. You upgrade at the scoop to get more shots. And that's basically it. Once you hit all the shots, the mode is over and you've completed. You'll see the little sliver. You see the little it like right here Like right here Yeah look Yeah look at look at the flipstream Yeah look at flipstream So you see that once that's complete? Nowhere is complete Hey, John's are allowed bro. Hey John's are allowed Okay All right. I think I'll take longer to get the hey drones. It'll be just a shot pretty much pretty much alright let's do this we are going in I really I need to turn hog mode on because I keep having to sign in if you're on scorebit if you turn on hog mode it'll just start with you as player one like all the time so you don't have to keep pressing it I don't know if you knew this friends but yeah thank you scorebit for adding that feature in that was so nice for Rocky Bull and Co Yeah, I should press it, but I haven't yet Okay, here we go In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Plunge God diggity Okay, got my upgrade I don't have the ball yet Okay, that's 1 2 I gotta make up for lost time There's 1 three I had a dream no don't borg me don't borg me oh you son of a god alright I got three shots so far how many shots you got buddy uh two alright four thank you five five thank you whoever did that six seven yeah I got the upgrade and I'm about to hit my eighth shot nope I shoot Groot in the mouth and waste time good job nice work and complete so close well that puts me where what puts us back in a tie where the friggin arrows go I saw that shell shock where the friggin arrows go run out of time that's fine there goes was let me hold this up for a second oh boy this is this is more even than we both thought um yeah um trust me buddy i ride the struggle bus sometimes on this game because of this borg lane no matter it's like this just sucks this area just sucks it's all metal notice there's there's no rubbers on that um yep it's metal metal metal and wood so hey there's flipstream right now wow well flipstream's watching wow flipstream's watching us um flipstream what's the next game you're going to be streaming when we join you on Thursday. What do you feel like streaming? Won't be this Thursday, but next Sunday it's a toss-up between Back to Rocky and Bullwinkle. Or what? Or VPX. Oh, okay. Can you play Rocky? What's your high score on Rocky right now? I can tell you. Yeah, you can look on Squirbit. Let's see. Let's find out. All right. I'm going to find your game. Find Machine. Rocky, R-O-C-K-Y. I spelled Taki. Maybe we'll get there faster. Okay, C-K-Y. Yeah, you might. The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle. There it is. Flip screen. $404 million. Yesterday. So we're looking at the same thing, right? Yes. um focus did i see astro hey astro can you guys do me a favor and do a really good version of rocky and bullwinkle okay thanks bye or just fix the physics on the one that's there or fix the physics on the one that's there yeah no thank you um so uh i keep saying surreal oh my god i'm so like So like surreal. No, it's because I never have anybody else on stream except surreal. I've called Audrey surreal once. And trust me, Audrey is no surreal. Little bubble gum. Let's do the final challenge. The final challenge was the dreaded Hadrons challenge. The dreaded Hadrons challenge. where we actually have to earn our three Hadrons and then use at least one before the other person. Here, I will press this button for you. Use a hard-on. Hit all the stand-up targets. There's your arrows shell shock there you go once once you've hit all the targets the hadrons will be lit you must be in a mode or multiball to use the hadrons you press the action button to use your hadron and that's how that's that's what we're going to do now right yes so let's i'm looking at you i'm watching you what are you doing i'm watching you i'm oh sookie sookie you know what's amazing how freaking great a job that mr h harlan and the fish ball did at matching the actual table it's insane it really is a good job i didn't do much So, Shel Shlock, how do you get into mode? So you get into mode at the start of the game. The default settings are you get to pick your mode. The default setting, you can set it to where you don't get to pick. And you're in a mode until the timer runs out. That timer runs no matter what. So if there's an animation, you hit a scoop, you hit the Groot shot and you've locked the ball, that timer is still ticking down in the background. So you need to get out of those as quick as possible. So learn the double flip to skip scenes. Once a scene has ended, you can hit the scoop on the right and then restart another mode. So you can go back into the same mode if you didn't. Or you can pick a whole new mode. Up to you. But you're in that mode until the timer runs. Nice. and our hope is that if you didn't if you weren't familiar with the game that you know man now you know a little bit more about it so we're both going to start with pod chase we're going to try and hit all the stand-ups collect some hard-on jesus christ let's just go let's just go let's just go let's just go okay now do you know why i picked No, sir. Why did you pick Podrace? Podchase. Now this is Podracing. The reason I picked Podchase is it has the longest timer that isn't a multiball. 154 seconds, right? Because we have to be in a mode to use the Hadron Collider. So if we're still in the mode when we collect it... How come his Gamora ramp is green? Because I have the Pro. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just a little bit different. The artwork is different. The Pro's got this green hex color underneath. Yeah. alright I refuse to talk and I'm gonna just you do your thing cause words hard me okay go can't brain today I have the dumb count it off alright Hadron Enforcer Collection in 3 2 1 go 3 2 1 go 1 2 This is going pretty well 3 I didn't get the tough one though Shit Okay let's back Ah you borg Great equalizer There's one finally 2 And I borg'd I borg'd I just borg'd You did too huh Yeah I'm on ball 2 Me too And I just got porked again Wow Jeez I think I'm going to set up all saves Can I have the ball back please Pops are nice and all I'm kind of in a hurry here That one Nope I got hit rocket So did I Hey what do you know I already got that one. I want to get a little insurance, so I'm going to shoot Groot. No! Oh, no! No! No! Flip Street? Five. No! But you got to use it. Did you use it? Yep. Good night, everybody. You know what? You know what I got to say about this game? This game is stupid. This game is stupid. Woo! I am never going to win one of these challenges ever again. That's all, folks. Oh, my God. Well played, sir. Well played. Oh, the push ball. What's up? Flip stream. I gotta say, bud. Well done, sir. Congratulations for beating the odds this evening. Perfect. Thanks. Thanks a lot. How are you doing that? Did you... You just make me so angry with your freaking coding skills. My responses are a part the AI flipstream has programmed. These are not pre-recorded responses. You really got to flex that heart right now. Oh, man. Well, guess what, kids? Your boy, I came close, though. Four to three, right? It was better than mine. I'm not as shocked as you are. Or I'm more shocked than you are. Guardians is a fun game. You guys got it. If you can't get out on location and play it, if you ask me, there's really no difference between the Pro and the Premium. Good luck finding a Premium, by the way. No, I don't, actually. Because yours is based on, what, 1.09, right? Yeah, it's based on pretty much 1.09, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you don't have the same code because you don't use Stern code. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Pro doesn't use Stern code. Right, exactly. yeah but ours is based on I think the 1.09 code and that's what Flipstream's using because of the Cleland mod that you're using right? yep yep on Firepower Manu thought I'd be wiping the theater with this was this is a rough game I mean Firepower's got two outlanes that are mean this has got one and it decided to eat all the balls tonight well I mean it's crazy I mean, he's got two inlanes on the left, and he didn't decide to use either one of them. So, I mean, yeah. That's Borg for you. Well, hopefully you guys, and to Fishbowl, great work on this, man. I've got to say, once again, every time I come back to this game, I'm really super impressed. Yeah. Flipstream. It inspired me to buy the physical machine. I was having that much fun with the V-Pen. so there you go i mean endorsement achievement unlocked um flipstream thank you once again for for going through you guys don't know well maybe you do if you're a streamer you know there's like two hours of setup for this and then another half hour of pre-game and then the thing flipstream makes that just so easy you know where everyone else made it hard no i'm not saying that I'm not saying that but we've I should just shut up hey Flippstein why don't you take us out I need to just shut up anyway thank you bro hey thanks for hosting I do appreciate it it was fun I've had no new one trust me but no it is it is always a blast doing the streamings it is quite a bit of effort behind the scenes that most people will probably never notice but it is a labor of love so thank you both so much for being here thanks pinball friends those watching live or on youtube later yeah thanks everybody I do appreciate the duel and hopefully this inspired some folks to check out the incredible VPX if you have not already or if not nothing else play some pinball in the real world or what I don't know where he comes up with it either thank you Flipstream friends I'm going to let you guys go maybe go rate somebody I don't know who to rate can we give a shout out real quick one more time for Flipstream Surreal you can do that I think and yeah I'll see you guys on Thursday Probably from my garage Probably from the murder garage Um Cause it might rain in San Francisco And I'm not walking a PC all day To go watch Of course Of course you did that bro Alright I'll see you guys on Thursday Thanks a lot love you love you faces Buh bye oh we get to rate my buddy don't panic flip please stick around for the rate kids please stick around for the rate show your love to don't panic flip one of the one of the guys who also started this all love you guys i'll see you later Thank you. 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