# IFPA PINMASTERS 2026 QUALIFYING DAY 1 | FRONT 9 **Source:** Fox Cities Pinball **Type:** video **Published:** 2026-03-26 **Duration:** 296m 8s **Beat:** Pinball **URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZIwpx1xNlo --- ## Analysis Coverage of IFPA PinMasters 2026 qualifying day 1 at Fox Cities Pinball, featuring tournament play on X-Men, Demolition Man, and other games using a golf-style scoring format where players aim to reach target scores in five balls or fewer. Multiple players compete including Roger Sharpe (legendary pinball figure), with discussion of game setups, strategy, technical issues, and community sportsmanship throughout the day. ### Key Claims - [HIGH] X-Men is set to five balls with a target score of 30 million, and can be completed in one ball if played well enough — _Commentators discussing X-Men setup at tournament start_ - [HIGH] Demolition Man has a target score of 500 million and is one of the newest mid-tier games in the bank — _Tournament organizer and commentator confirming Demolition Man setup_ - [MEDIUM] Demolition Man was played at PinMasters last year with a similar target score — _Commentator stating 'RPC had a Demolition Man at Pin Masters last year. I can't remember what the score is. I think it was around this.'_ - [HIGH] Andy Bagwell is the event organizer/host and is providing food and coordinating tournament logistics — _Multiple references to 'Andy' ordering food, fixing machines, and managing the event_ - [HIGH] The Demolition Man tilt sensor was loosened after it was giving straight tilts for no reason yesterday — _Mark (tech) and commentators discussing tilt adjustment made before today's play_ ### Notable Quotes > "I'm giving Roger Sharpe advice. Never thought that that happened." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, Early in stream during X-Men play > _Humorous acknowledgment of Roger Sharpe's legendary status in pinball; he's giving advice to one of the sport's most respected figures_ > "It's a sport of honor even more so than golf... people are so apt to cheat because... but in pinball... no one wants to beat someone. They want to beat them on their best day." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, Mid-stream during discussion of sportsmanship > _Articulates core community value of competitive integrity and honorable play in pinball_ > "I don't think I've beaten him yet. A lot of people can say that. Or his grandson." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, During discussion of Roger Sharpe and family > _References Roger Sharpe's competitive excellence and mentions his grandson (Colin or Josh) as also highly skilled_ > "Welcome to Pin Masters. Holy cow." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, After difficult Demo Man drain sequence > _Captures the challenging, punishing nature of PinMasters tournament difficulty_ > "You just need to come in the booth when you're... that was let Jesus take the wheel because I just react." > — **Steve (player)**, After successful Demo Man multiball sequence > _Reflects player's intuitive/instinctive play style under tournament pressure_ > "This game just requires you to shoot dangerous shots... if you miss any of those shots, you're hitting a post, you're hitting a target or something, it's coming right back." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, Early in X-Men scoring discussion > _Describes X-Men's punishing shot design and risk/reward mechanics_ > "It's a weird format. You don't care if the other guy has more points than you. You just care how many how many balls it took you to get them." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, Explaining golf-format scoring > _Clarifies the unique scoring structure of PinMasters where strokes matter, not absolute points_ > "Demolition Man has not been kind... no outlane rubbers. If it's going around there, it's not a 50/50. It's like an 80/20." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, During Demo Man commentary > _Describes aggressive playfield geometry and low outlane save probability_ > "Roger is the best pinball face when he drains. It's exactly how we all feel." > — **[name withheld pending review]**, After Roger drains during Demo Man > _Humorous observation about Roger Sharpe's expressive reaction to bad luck_ > "I had a comeback six on Genesis because I didn't play a couple of balls... Genesis played well, but it also plays mean." > — **Roger Sharpe**, During equipment discussion > _References Roger's prior tournament performance and game characteristics_ ### Entities | Name | Type | Context | |------|------|---------| | Roger Sharpe | person | Legendary pinball player competing in PinMasters; present in booth and playing games; described as expert with deep rules knowledge | | Dante | person | Primary commentator and host for Fox Cities Pinball stream; provides play-by-play and strategic analysis | | Mark | person | Technical operator/repair person at Fox Cities; handles machine maintenance, tilt adjustments, and technical support during tournament | | Andy Bagwell | person | Tournament organizer/venue owner; coordinates event logistics, provides food, manages game setups | | Steve | person | Competing player in PinMasters; knowledgeable about game rules and strategy; serves as informal rules expert for other players | | Mike | person | Competing player in PinMasters; shown having comeback performance on Demolition Man | | Seth Evans | person | Competing player in PinMasters qualifying; unable to attend in person, name lives on in infamy from scorekeeping | | Colin | person | Roger Sharpe's grandson; mentioned as highly skilled pinball player | | Josh | person | Roger Sharpe's grandson; mentioned as highly skilled pinball player who nearly won PAPA 2024 finals | | Fox Cities Pinball | venue | Tournament venue hosting IFPA PinMasters 2026 qualifying; located in Wisconsin area; has multiple pinball machines and food service | | IFPA PinMasters 2026 | event | Major pinball tournament using golf-format scoring; qualifying day 1 being covered; has team competitions and finals/Sunday events | | X-Men | game | Pinball machine in PinMasters tournament bank; 5-ball format with 30 million target score; features dangerous shots and quick ball play | | Demolition Man | game | Pinball machine in PinMasters tournament bank; 5-ball format with 500 million target score; features modes, multiball, bonus multipliers, and aggressive playfield geometry | | Genesis | game | Pinball machine mentioned in tournament context; played mean, aggressive; Roger Sharpe had experience with it | | Black Knight 2000 | game | Game mentioned as having booting issues during tournament | | NACS | event | Prior pinball tournament at same venue; target scores for PinMasters games compiled partly from NACS scores | | PAPA 2024 | event | Prior year pinball tournament where Josh (Roger Sharpe's grandson) nearly won finals | | Backhand Pinball | organization | Streaming/content organization associated with Mark; does streaming coverage of pinball events | | [name withheld pending review] | event | Prior tournament where Steve played with other competitors; used card format | | ORD | venue | Pinball venue where Mark does some technical work; related to Fox Cities area | ### Signals - **[event_signal]** IFPA PinMasters 2026 qualifying day 1 coverage from Fox Cities Pinball using golf-format scoring with 5-ball or fewer target per game (confidence: high) — Full stream coverage of qualifying matches with multiple players competing on X-Men and Demolition Man using stroke-based scoring system - **[gameplay_signal]** X-Men characterized as punishing with dangerous shots and high variance; Demolition Man described as difficult with aggressive playfield requiring two multiballs or bonus X combos to reach 500M target (confidence: high) — Commentators repeatedly noting X-Men's quick ball and risky shot requirements; Demo Man's lack of outlane rubbers and 80/20 outlane loss ratio; discussion of difficulty in reaching target scores - **[gameplay_signal]** Players discussing tournament-specific strategies: X-Men lock progression vs mode completion; Demo Man emphasizing side scoop/left ramp/right ramp opening sequence and multiball planning (confidence: high) — Detailed strategy discussion including 'ideal start to Demo Man is side scoop, left ramp, right ramp'; discussion of multiball vs mode strategies on both games - **[product_concern]** Demo Man tilt sensor was overly aggressive yesterday, causing unwarranted straight tilts; required loosening adjustment before tournament play today (confidence: high) — Mark stating 'demo man tilt was loosened' and confirming 'it was kind of just giving people straight tilts for no reason'; confirmed this was fixed before day 1 - **[community_signal]** Strong community emphasis on honorable play and helping opponents learn games; preference for beating players on their best day rather than exploiting ignorance (confidence: high) — Mark's statement about pinball being a sport of honor; Dante noting 'sportsmanship of the game' includes giving advice before games start; community norm of helping with rules - **[operational_signal]** Fox Cities Pinball handling multi-day tournament with food service, technical support, and coordinated scheduling; rainy weather affecting external food truck operations (confidence: high) — Discussion of food service, Andy providing catering, weather impacting food truck, tech maintenance happening live, 3:00pm team time scheduled after qualifying - **[competitive_signal]** Roger Sharpe present as legendary reference player; his grandsons Colin and Josh also highly skilled competitors; Steve recognized as rules encyclopedia for other players (confidence: high) — Multiple references to Roger Sharpe's presence and expertise; Josh nearly winning PAPA 2024 finals; Steve called 'the encyclopedia' for game rules knowledge - **[gameplay_signal]** Fresh flipper rubber and pink flipper options noted; fresh flippers grab ball earlier than expected affecting shot timing; newer flipper types enable advanced techniques like dead bounces and drop catches (confidence: high) — Commentators discussing fresh flipper behavior on right ramp shots being 'earlier than you thought'; discussion of pink flipper capabilities and risks with advanced catches - **[content_signal]** Tournament being streamed by Fox Cities Pinball with live commentary; chat engagement from viewers; discussion of prior streaming coverage by Backhand Pinball (confidence: high) — Multiple references to chat, viewer donations (Huxley award mentioned), commentators acknowledging streaming audience, mention of prior Backhand Pinball streaming - **[venue_signal]** Fox Cities Pinball hosting major IFPA tournament with multiple game banks, technical staff, food service, and staging for large audience and stream coverage (confidence: high) — Discussion of multiple game banks, technical setup, food coordination, booth setup for commentary, full production streaming - **[gameplay_signal]** Specific shot observations: X-Men's left ramp transition to orbit is early/tricky; Demo Man's side scoop is standard but slightly early; left ramp feed from center is dangerous; computer award shot is difficult from upper flipper (confidence: high) — Multiple commentaries on shot timing specifics: 'left ramp is earlier than you think'; 'side scoop maybe a little early'; discussion of orbit feed being dicey and dangerous - **[design_philosophy]** Golf-format PinMasters scoring emphasizes consistency and stroke efficiency rather than absolute highest scores; players compete against target scores and other players' stroke counts, not head-to-head point tallies (confidence: high) — Commentators explaining 'you don't care if the other guy has more points than you. You just care how many balls it took you'; scoring spectrum maps points to strokes (9-10 balls = high strokes) --- ## Transcript all kind of freely out into the playfield that uh get a little dicey. Even even X-Men if it if it doesn't go all the way around and it kind of bobbles around. It's a super quick ball. I'm not sure about the target scores. I maybe Tom has a master. I'll get back to you on that. Okay, we are back. And yeah, so all of these are set to five balls. For those of you watching that don't know how this works, you have a target score you want to achieve in five balls or less. After five balls, there's a a spectrum um that determines how many strokes you take. I think up to 10, nine or 10. So like on this one for example, a nine or 10 stroke might be uh let's see 10 million. Um and then a six stroke is probably like 25 to 30. All right. So it looks like we are just going to proceed without Mike here. Roger. First plunge. Gets his ball save. That doesn't do anything. And starts or lights his mode start. Survives a shot there and lights his lock. Very nice. It's a five ball, but it can be it can be over in one ball if uh if you play well enough. All right. Actually, this might be a good mode. We get that 30 million. It's got his power loop, I suppose. Oh, that's a great notch. I'm starting to think this guy's played pinball before. Nice shot. It's his night letter and a lock. He's looking good. Two locks, ball one. I if I'm him, I mean, you want the hole in one, but I might take a shot at the lock if I get the opportunity. Like instead of shooting this scary night shot, uh, he tried the Magnusade. I don't know if that is actually enabled, but Oh no, Seth, that we're missing. Sorry, Seth. Yeah, your name is will live in live live on in infamy. Yes, same venue as NACS. Um, OD pinball. The these target scores were I think mostly compiled from the scores at NACS. All right, Steve Bowen. Oh, good nudging. Okay, I almost used magnet. Oh, man. This is good. I as my first pin masters, it's good watching this because I've heard this is a very tilting experience. Um, a ball one like that where you kind of get nothing done and you just get a bad drain is uh something you kind of just have to shake off. Oh, that almost went badly. Mike survives. Would love some control. Oh, good save. Another one coming. Nice. Lights is lock. I love that shot actually. Oh, man. All right. I'm starting to see why this is 30 million target score, but Roger's looking good here going into ball two. only 12 million, but he is two shots away from his multiball and he's in a mode about halfway done. No, not half. That's his uh his uh magnet progress, pretty sure. Oo, a little bank shot. Gets the ball back to his flipper here for an early backhand. nails it. Oh my goodness. Yeah, Roger kind of just taking a gander. He's seen that before, but it never gets better. The sling out lane never gets better. Morning. Morning, Dante. I'm Mark. Nice to meet you. Uh I am the tech here. Yes. Today and sometimes at ORD. I I have a feeling nothing's going to go wrong today. There's going to be no issues. It was pretty smooth yesterday. You know, you just did. No. I'm I'm reverse jinxing it. I'm reverse jinxing it. Oh, man. But you know, yesterday went pretty smoothly. You're looking good. Roger. Just Just shoot. Just light your lock. Light your lock and you're good. We got Roger Sharp in the peanut gallery to the left of us. That's a pleasure. I'm giving Roger Sharp advice. Never thought that that happened. Um he he's claiming he doesn't know the rules, which you know, he knows so many rules that that's probably don't need to know the rules to this game. I think he's teasing us. He's joshing us. He's j He is joshing us. He's been known to Josh. Oh, this is By the way, this 30 million looked very low. And it's I'm understanding it. We're getting untangled here. All right, let's see if if Roger follows my advice. I I I really if he gets this lock lit and shoots it in that hole, we are back in business. to Tom is leaving us partially unsupervised here. So, but he's always wearing rightfully so. It's It's an incredible setup and break here. Oh, he's got his mode finish lids. He gets a danger. Oh my goodness. I don't want to play this game. It's a mean one. Yeah, it plays me. Um I just stepped in. So what what's uh the objective here? So 30 million. Okay. Yeah. And Roger had like a good ball one. He got two locks and about like 15 million and just has really not gotten a lot of flips since then. And Steve has had Steve and uh Mike have both just really not been able to do much. This this game just requires you to shoot dangerous shots though. Yeah. Um there's it if you look how short it's sucker shots. If you miss any of those shots, you're hitting a post, you're hitting a target or something, it's coming right back. Big 3 million. 10% of the target score from mystery in a mode start. And uh are we on ball one here? This is ball three. Oh, ball three. Yeah, we are chugging along. Good save. I think all these modes are kind of like a 20 million 25 million. Um I feel like you're so late. Like ball three now you're not even really thinking about multiball. Um cuz Mike and Steve don't have any progress. So yeah, I just rip shots here. This mode you want to shoot a shot and then shoot it again. Allah the hydra war lane isn't bad. Get a little war. Hurry up. Bang. Yeah, I take that hydra. Maybe I'll go to Y. I'm really bad with the rules on this, so I might ask you some really stupid questions. Of course. Uh, and also a good morning, chat. Yes. Uh, we don't want to neglect you guys. I'm going through and reading down seeing everyone's solder head. Wait a minute. Seth, is this Seth Evans? Yes, he's uh who's playing right now? He is uh he's gonna have to look at his name the whole the whole stream uh cuz he wasn't able to make it today for some reason. Pink ninja man's in the house. Oh, he gets it. Nice. Steve gets gets a hole in three there with a war hurry up down the middle. That's how you do it, baby. He He was in trouble. He started that ball with 2 million. But that that does go to show you like a war hurry up in a mode will probably get you over the edge. Um so Mike just needs to do that. Not that. Okay. Good nudge. Nice bounce over his mode premode start lit on the center ramp. Oh yeah. Have you gotten a chance to play the games in the bank main bank? I I got to play the games that I played in nationals yesterday, but I haven't played this one. Okay. Um how did you feel? uh the setups played they they all played great. I I had two issues with tilts that were both fixed. Um the demo man tilt was loosened and then there was an issue with the slam tilt on they people were moving that game last night. Um that turned out to be uh the the slam when I opened the door the slam tilt was still going and they they met you said was it you? It was me. It was like it was game one round one. Yeah. And you said you didn't hit it that hard but and I saw it moving. And so my theory was that the game was locked up and it need to be restarted and that's what happened actually. So then we it bent that slam so it was nowhere near touching. [music] I don't know why it was even near touching but it was in a regular position. Uhoh. Brutal man. He missed the Oh boy. Four by that hurts. Less than a million. Uh after all his years, Rodri still can't believe it. That's rough. Now we are set to 10 ball, right? It's it's five balls and Tom has them up here. There's targets and then you see 6 7 8 9. Okay. So it doesn't go up to 10 are the scores you need to get uh to determine after five balls how many strokes. I think I've played in those golf uh tournaments where it is a 10 ball cuz we're that bad. Yeah. Right. And we want to make it a little fun. Of course, these players are amazing. They're they're amazing and and we do want to speed it up because we have a a 3:00 team time uh which is the tea time I man coming up this afternoon as well. Long day of pinball. Yes. Nice catch. Boom. And gets a block. At this point though, locks are pretty immaterial. I think uh you think he's just going for multiball? I think I think he's going to go mode. And then I like what Jeie did. He has one more letter for his war which is like lights a set of hurry ups top. So if he puts it in the spinner like one of the orbits uh he could he could also light those. Nice shape there. Come on. Stay up. Good. All right. So yep gets his war. So now three middle shots are lit for a little under 4 million which is huge in this context. It's usually something you ignore um tournament play, but wants to get one of these at near full value, but they're dangerous. They could definitely kill you. Oh, he goes for his lock light. I mean, sure, but now him and see the thing is once you get to ball four in this, you kind of want to start thinking about beefing your score up. So, if you do drain in ball five, you're not getting a a nine or an eight. Um, so like right now if Roger does nothing, he gets a six. Um, but he gets it there with the skill shot. Couple more flips. Just Yeah. Just game. Yeah. Which he does love the game. It's amaz He's done so much for it. It's a joy to hang out and watch him play. Yeah. And to play with him. You know what? I I don't think I've beaten him yet. A lot of people can say that. Or his grandson. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Colin or Josh really good. Oh my goodness. Yeah. He kills me all the time. Yeah. I I was at Papa in 2024 and he was uh closely shadowing uh Josh in in the finals. It was pretty cool to see. All right, so Mike here take his long shot at it at least. Oh, nice bounce there. Come on. Oh my goodness. So that's going to be max points maybe. I would assume the low end is 10 million, but Tom had it up earlier. It's unfortunate. Roger and Steve are they're looking they're they're gawking. They're pointing to 119. And yeah, this is it's a weird format. You know, you don't care if the other guy has more points than you. You just care how many how many balls it took you to get them in. Every bowl is like ball three. If I have questions on a game and Steve's around, I immediately go to him. Yes, he is the encyclopedia. That guy's knowledge is amazing. Yeah, I had him in a few of my groups at the Index Indis uh Classics match play and he he I always appreciate when and I try to do this as much as I can when when people who don't know a game ask a question about it before the game starts uh and someone kind of gives them advice. I think that's kind of the that's really the sportsmanship of the game cuz you never want to beat someone because they don't know how to play a game. I I I do think ideally we're we're on as even a playing field as possible and and Steve's always kind of there to help you out. Um I I I've been involved with pinball now for well I I've been teching and repairing for about 4 years. Uh I grew up with the valley's wood rail ballerina. I've been around it. It's an honor sport even more so than golf. I was also a part of golf and built clubs and all that, but people are so apt to cheat cuz you know, but it is a sport of honor. I think it is. There is more honor in in pinball because no one wants to beat someone. They want to beat them on their best day. 100%. Uh yeah, it's nice to see. I I have encountered uh some people, very few uh back when I would scorekeep um that were trying to take advantage of situations and switches that didn't register, but sometimes that's pinball. You know, the ball jumps a switch doesn't always register and you can't get a comp ball because of that. Uh but some people will try. Yeah. Yeah, that was very cool there. Uh so it looks like uh LFS uh at least Lyman's initials are the GC first. Always nice to see. Um so we get a little demo man here. I I thought this played great yesterday. This was a very popular mid pick. We had a few mids down, but I think it would have been anyway. It's kind of the the newest of the mids. Um and I think Tom's going to put in the target score for this looks like. And yeah, I've kind of fill the card in. Let's see. No, demolition man. So, 500 million. Not a gimme. Um I I know nothing's a gimme. Nothing's a gimme in this bank. I know. I know RPC had a demo man at Pin Masters last year. I can't remember what the score is. I I think it was around this. Um this plays pretty standard. I I kind of noticed, especially on the right flipper shots, they they were all a little earlier than you thought, which actually kind of made that lock, that multiball shot easier than it usually is. Fresh flippers. They'll grab the ball early. Yes. Yep. That's right. Pinkies. Every single machine's got uh That's what it is. Okay. Yeah. I love these these pink ones cuz you can do some cool dead bounce and some drop catches, but they they if you miss a live catch or you you do a dead bounce when you shouldn't. It uh it can kill you, but it's nice to have that at this level of play to have that consistency. Yes, exactly. Um Okay, that does it. All right. So, if I'm thinking of my pin master strategy on this game, um, I don't even know it. Now, uh, in multiball this one, I know you use the handles and you get more points. Yes, you do get a secret jackpot. So, I like to do this. I call it the zer, which is you shoot the side scoop and if you make it, you hit the the buttons and it'll give you the middle and the side at the same time. Uh if you miss it, then it still keeps the middle lit. You can shoot that and then shoot the side. Um that might not have made sense, but there there's you can finesse the button a little bit. Um I do think though like one multiball is not going to get done on this game. So you either need to do two multiballs or you're going to need some like bonus X combos to kind of get you over the edge. Um that and that's not to say like if you get a super jackpot and some jackpots in the first multiball, fine. Um but I don't know. I feel like I might just take my my right ramp to start multiball. Um that was fast. This is this is warm up. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they go about it with with multiballs and shooting combos cuz combos are, you know, they get you they get you some points. Where was the target again? Uh 500 mil. Okay. Yeah. That's it's definitely uh it's definitely tough in in one ball. I did it yesterday, but I did it almost always playing the second multi wall. So, all right, everyone's getting a feel for the games. Classic upper flipper to right in lane. Roger's on the gum strat. Love the gum strat. Yeah, that I I noticed the the feed from the pops coming out of that right out lane was a little dicey yesterday. You either caught it or it kind of went into uh the danger zone. He's getting a feel for Yeah, this game's just such a great shooter. Um it's so fun. Yeah, it's fun to flow on it. Great call outs, too. I you know, it's not not the best movie of all time. It didn't win any Oscars, but It's a classic like pinball from the '9s. It didn't win one. Wesley Snipes, he was snubbed. I I I've heard. I will say though, like, you know, [laughter] I'm trying to think. Amag is the second second award on the right ramp. You could kind of just like multiball, get your MTL lanes to light your right ramp, and then go straight for acme mag. This will be an interesting one. Okay, we have somebody's food here. I'm going to help this guy out. Help locating his customer. All right. So, Steve will be going first as he had the lowest amount of strokes last, but it kind of doesn't matter the the play order here. It's all about you. And and and what's cool about pin masters, from what I heard, is, you know, everyone's cheering on everyone to get as as few strokes as possible. Um, this isn't you're not competing with the people in your in your party. You're really just competing with yourself and and against the hole in the score. Tomorrow they'll be Yes. Yes. In the finals or or Sunday. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Are we still in practice? Nope. This is the real deal here. Sorry. Andy had got some food for everyone here. What a nice guy. And you got a food truck sitting outside, but it's raining and they're running back and forth so we can order in here. That's very nice. Pretty cool. I I I offered to get food for my uh people who drove me here, but I guess we are going to be getting it outside. Do you know what what type of food it is? I'm not sure. We'll have to find out. There's a menu right over there. I'll grab in a second. Okay, Roger. Gets a nice in lane there. Rejects from the center ramp. shoot flashing shots pretty much. Yeah. Swing out. [music] So, this this game is crucial, I think, to nail that side scoop on the plunge if it does come around and then nail the left ramp to light your multiball. Um, I really think in Pin Masters, the ideal start to this game is side scoop, left ramp, right ramp. If you can do that, you have a multiball started without ball save even ending. Nice and clean. Gets his ball in. All right, let's see how he deals with this feed here. Very, very well. That was a great catch. Pretty patient. Yeah. Yep. You want him? Yeah. Is this practice? No, this is real. So, this is Mike's ball one here. Nails the multi. Yep. That That's actually huge. The the bonus multiplier held for pin masters is well always is big. So, I would try to get get it up there as much as possible. At least get a 2x here. Um, this bonus is just so big. So, he's got 3x now and 3x for next ball. That's at this point. You want to maybe com think about comboing out, building your bonus a [music] little bit. Maybe shoot the right ramp. Yeah, he's going up top. I I love this. This is huge for him. What builds bonus on this? Uh, combos and playing modes on the right ramp. modes or whatever multi like the more right ramps you hit when they're lit. So you see how it says access at the bottom, right? Yeah. So every time it says that and you shoot it up there, it'll give you 10 million in bonus. Oh, great catch. Mike's Mike's having a great comeback uh game right now uh after getting a a bad score last time. That's what you need to do. You need to shake off any nines you get. Just forget they have get a one, it turns into a both are fives, right? Yep. So true. So that that obviously won't get a a one, but he has his 3x next ball. So if he can do some things um that could push him over the edge. All right, so Steve did nothing. He really wants to nail this side scoop, nail the left ramp, and nail the right ramp. It's okay. He has a second chance. It dribbles in. Yeah, I know that that left ramp is earlier than you think. That's scary. Yep. Mike was handling it with a live catch, but I that can always go wrong, too. Yeah, that'll be the other lane. Float it right over. Yeah, just fling it up. Welcome to Pin Masters. Holy [laughter] cow. As a late session goer, I'm a little scared. It's your Yeah, it's it can be scary, that's for sure. Rogers got the pinball wizard shirt on. What? Nice. Andy indicating he got a one hole in one. I had a comeback six on Genesis because I didn't play a couple of balls. I thought that Genesis played well, but it also plays mean. It's It's rough. Like sometimes it's going to just throw it right in. Yep. Yeah. Like the feed into the pops after hitting a successful ramshot that can kill you is is rough. Yeah. Hey Andy, what type of is that outside? Really? And we have Aloha. Yeah. Nice. This Andy Bagwell is a stand up guy. Oh, that's a pro move from Roger. He is standing up. Look at that. Yeah, he is. He missed the left ramp and held his upper flipper up. Oh, man. All right. He has his multiball lit next ball, though. I get to go fix Roger's Black Knight 2000, which is not starting. Oh, that's my worst thing I hear from clients is it's not booting. Yep. I have a game and it won't start. It could be a lot of things. [laughter] Wow. Mike gets his bonus 4x. That's big. Wants to shoot. Oh, is he going to switch his Bonus X there. All right. He missed a couple bonus X lanes. That's fine. Nice. Wow. Max bonus X already. Has he He hasn't played a multiball, has he? No, he hasn't. He He would love to shoot a right ramp right now. He's trying to get maybe a freeze, too. Yeah, that that's Don't tilt. Yeah, I didn't consummate the 5x, but um you know, 30 40 million, it all helps. Oh, yeah. On to ball three. [music] Yeah. This uh this demo man has not been kind. Yeah. So, no outlane rubbers. If it's if it's going around there, it's not a 50/50. It's like an 8020. There will be a one. Yes. Yeah. I wonder who will be the first one. If you relate this to golf, the rough is high, you know. That's the uh that's the playfield. It's raining outside. They're making us play in it. I know. And uh you know, windy. That's the tilt. 40 mph winds. Yeah, this tilt was rough yesterday, but they I Andy loosened it a little bit. It was it was kind of just giving people straight tilts for no reason. I actually tilted a multivolt. So I I was happy to see that. Yeah, that that unless you're like getting violent. Yeah. And I don't think we changed anything overnight. No, I don't think we adjusted the tilt for the tournament. I think we left it as is as we play it here. Yep. Um and yeah, we finally it's the size. No wonder I always thought I was mean. Dang. All right. I kind of just think go right. Oh, or nail it. Yeah. Multiball time. [laughter] Nice. Okay. Steve's reaction was great cuz it it was like it was like you could breathe. Center. Oh, neither of them went left. Yeah, he just takes the secret there. I like that. Yeah. Now you Now you hope the ball comes to your flippers and you can hit the ramps. Oh, that's good. Bonus X, too. Nice. Super. Nice. I'll do it one more time. Yeah. I feel like if you get a couple of these Oh. Very good donuts, I heard. I'm going to have to try one of those. He's He's selling me on these donuts. I'm I'm going. Yeah. Go get one. I'm getting donuts. We're not We're not holding Mark back. All right. So, yeah. So, Roger, I I'm thinking, Dante, you need like two multiballs. I I was saying two multiballs or like a bunch of combos and a big bonus X or this is actually I think my strategy. First multi bowl then rush a mag and see where you are. That's not a bad strat. Good. The smile on your face tells me those donuts look really Damn the sugar good. [laughter] All right, so Roger didn't do much there, but he has time still. Okay. All right. We're hitting this side ramp like it's nothing. I kind of like the combo strategy. It's it's it's slow, but there Oh, nice in lane. Wow. Manifesting me getting that in lane today. Caught his third side ramp in a row. 5 million. He's avoiding the claw. He's not interested. Another side ramp. This might be the strategy. Never play with the lower flipper. Yeah, I think that was a shot at the ramp. Goes back up the middle. We computer. Computer be huge. If computer is max freezes, then the side ramp starts or the the right ramp starts. It's random, but everyone gets the same Do we know what the first computer award is? It's random game to game, but everyone gets the same first award is how it goes, right? But do we know what it is? Um, has anybody gotten it yet? No, we do not. He has it lit. I really I I had max freezes twice out of my four games on yesterday. So, that's that's pretty good. Yeah, I also had triple car crash, which is the worst one. So, [laughter] results not guaranteed. All right. So, Steve's made some good progress. Played his first multiball. I think here he almost wants to not if he wants to get a little greedy. Really, he just wants to start that second multiball. So, that right ramp to get the freeze is huge. He can shoot it. Oh, thanks Neil. I kind of ripped it off backhand pinball. Oh, no. No. [laughter] But you know, Mark Mark does good things. Mark's a pro. Yeah. Mark is a pro. Not me. No, no, no. Backhand uh backhand pinball. They do a lot of lot of streaming shots. I streamed this last year. Oh, good save. That was a good dick. That was a great read. Oh my. Oh, maybe one more and that would have stayed like you thought that not stay up. Yeah, you're thinking that's going to fall right into the It's kind of the Star Trek uh sling geometry there where it's tilted towards the out lane. So, he nudged it up, but it bounced off that out. It's really tough to save that. So, and every every score down is like 20% of the score. So, yeah. So Steve needs to get shot 400 just to get a six. Rogers played in higher pressure games like this before and he uh he shows it there. He nails it immediately. That was beautiful. All right. Who's the secret? Or did he? I think he used it already, which sucks when you don't hit the uh side one. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I don't know how that that nudge you did. I don't know how you didn't save it. Yeah, it looked good. It almost felt like you just had to keep at it. All right, so Mike has his computer lit here. See if you can Steve's a little dejected. Really thought that. Not just here. He's coming to join us. Tell us what happens. I already hated here. Yep. I'm sorry. You had a clutch ball three on Black Knight at least. That was nice. At the seat of my pants. Yep. I'm already Oh, collect bonus. Yeah, that's why I was so disappointed. But for him, that's great. It's only 14 million. All right. He doesn't have his bonus. He had that 5x ball, too. I was like, "H nice in lane. Steve wants one of those. I would love that." All right. He needs to nail this multiball shot here or shoot the right ramp. For some reason, I can't hit the computer from the upper flipper. Oh, yeah. It's I don't know where it is, though. It's very tilting when you can hit it. All right. Hit the right ramp. Ooh, it almost dribbled in there. Right. This feed is the feed of this game. How you deal with that? I don't I try maybe if I hold the flipper up, but you can't do that because the slingshots are tight. So, if it touches a sling, you're done. [music] You either either shoot it on the fly or try to live catch it. Those are kind of your two options. So, that So, that means I'm shooting it on the fly, continuing to do that. Oh, explode. Okay, this is good points for pin masters. 12 million plus combo points. All right, this is good. This is good. All right, shoot the right ramp. He loves this center shot, which is fine. Which is good if you can center shot computer like I was doing during my practice ball. [laughter] And now I I just can't find the first shot. Oh man, Huxley. Thank you. Huley award. Nice. Love a Huxley award on stream. Yep. 24. That's already 24 million. He's on the combo strat. I don't mind it. Yeah, double car crash. I love this. He's showing all the features of the game here. All right, so he's getting there. He's already at 424. What is the second award? Oh, Rick. Do not do not. Do not. How close? Cuz he already he's getting at least 24 plus two claws. That's 20. Did he get Did he get too much? Oh. Oh, he didn't shoot the claw yet. Okay. Yeah, he hasn't shot that right ramp at All right. Well, he is carrying 24 through. Yeah. So, all right. He just needs a little something. You got it, Steve. All right. Get it. I'm just I just want to see you get in right now. He's earned it. He's made some shots. Yeah. Roger is the best pinball face when he drains. It's exactly how we all feel. Steve just wants to hit this side scoop. He can do it. It's a pretty standard Demo Man side scoop. It's maybe a little early. Yeah, he's looking at the angle. He's like, "Oh yeah, that's wide enough. I can hit that shot. Getting in the zone. Side scoop to left loop. Feeling it. Hits the side scoop. Oh, little late. It's okay. Oh. Oh, he's gets it back. Huge. That's the break he needed. All right, try number two. Okay, he gets a he gets a freeze. Oh, it almost it almost dribbled in there. All right, let's see what he does here. It's fine. Oh, hits it. Bang. That's my goat. Takes a secret. Yeah, he wants just put as many points on the board as soon as he can. The secret's the side ramp. Um, which is one of the harder shots. Jackpot's building from the pops in this multiball. Really doesn't matter. Wesley Snipes is just shooting glass and yelling about it. And I think the replay indicates uh that you got it. So, he gets a five. That's huge. Yeah. Replay set at 500. So, Yep. Makes it easy to know when you get it. Nicely done. Boy, getting a one on this is going to be huge. Yeah. Right. A one on anything, I think, is going to be pretty big and is probably going to put you. You just need to come in the booth when you're uh that was let Jesus take the wheel because I just react. I was like okay the first one missed completely and I was like do I catch the ball? No, don't be stupid. Just fling at it and where and just let it go and see if it I make that was not an aim for a multiball shot. I just go. And a part of me was like maybe I should shoot the center and get more points just to get closer to the hole. Like no. Okay. No, just throw it up. Just throw it up there. When you got that ball save I'm like I I like I knew and I knew it was okay. I was in the 3 seconds. I was like, I had no problem with Okay, keep as long as you're running fast. I'm within 3 seconds, I'm good. That's why I didn't move from the game. Like, I know I'm good. You know, I was within the 3 seconds. But yeah, I just Thank you, Orbit, for placing me in the right spot to flipper cuz I did not aim for it. I wanted it. that. Yeah, the uh Orbit on this one is a little early, man. I That's a rare down the middle from the left ramp reject. Usually goes to the right flipper. And on this one, if it goes to the left, you can hold the flipper up and deflect it. That's I'm not used to that on demolition. That's crazy. Yeah. I saw Ro Roger held it up and it went into the scoop, right? It's crazy. I'm used to it being like just right down the middle. You can't touch it and just let it go. All right. So, Roger gets 207. That That'll be an eight or a nine, I'm sure. Unfortunately. Maybe an eight. Maybe 199. At least it's 207 and not 197. Yeah. Come on. Now he's got 24 from bonus. Just need some combos here. Come on, dude. Liar. Ah, yeah. Here comes the 24. 26 is still going to be enough. Yeah. All right. So, he gets a six, but it's six. Yep. All right. Oh, that's six is not 10. Yeah. Six after a nine. So, we are looking I'll do some quick math at Roger probably has a 13 is my guess. Steve has a an eight so far and Mike has 15. I've been told you kind of want to average three to make qualifiers. I don't know if that's accurate for every pin masters, but around around three or four is is good. So, that's when those ones come into play because we're all going to get bogeies at least once twice or a few times. But if you can get some twos and ones in there, you can really save yourself a lot of strokes. Excuse me, guys. All right, where are we going next? Hole number nine. Is that countdown? No. Maybe 007. Oh, what's wrong Genesis next? Oh, I assume the right flipper got fixed so that you can hit the left ramp. I was able to shoot it yesterday. You couldn't hit it at all. I I don't know. Everyone was impossible. Physically impossible from a reflex shot. It was in the air caught in a flipper. It would not go even halfway up so much that I had to write it down. I did not the the very No, no. I I when I played it in my match yesterday, I was able to go all the way up. Oh, yeah. Good. That was the match. No, before when we were practicing the hour before they did something. I think they did something. Yeah, cuz I wrote it down on paper. I said, "Please fix this." And and the other thing, too, is that very target is very easy to get it to go all the way back. So, you don't even have to hit it like super clean. Um, and yeah, that the right ramp is money. Um, yeah, right ramp was good. Right ramp just vacuums it up. So, yeah. Yeah, those outlanes are hungry. Those outlanes are very But the very target doesn't come into play until you have all the robot parts, right? Because it's not it doesn't score very much before that. Well, yeah, but when you get multiball, that's kind of now it's good. Yeah. You get a good play field. Yeah. All right, time for practice. You got it. And this is very target up here. Yes. Refreshing the uh the car, too. So, yeah, these it's it's I never play got leaps with the pink rubbers. Um you can you can make a lot of dead bounces on these. Uh the flippers are very close together, but what kills you on this game is 90% of the time the outlands. Um I'm interested to see what the target score will be. My one game on it was a good one, but that that was followed by two really housey balls. So this this game can definitely uh be mean. Yeah, I was actually shot if I wanted to get it over. This is kind of a game where if you have a shot on one [music] flipper, you kind of just take it. Yeah, that's a bit sketchy. Steve's like, "Yeah, no, not messing with that." So, Genesis, try the tap again, maybe. Oh, Genesis is 2 million. Okay, so that that's pretty much means you got to get in a multiball and you got to do some stuff. Yep, it's fixed. No, Steve just still doesn't like it. It's It's hitable, Steve. Come on. Just hit it perfectly. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. Thumbs up on that. Oh, is this the setting where the ramps also alternate? It wasn't like that yesterday. I don't know if any settings were changed. I don't think so. Let's see. Oh, maybe actually. Yeah, Dan was in last night. This is Dan's game. Okay. And I saw he was in last night. It's rough, man. Okay, so it's alternating based on uh I'm assuming low switch hits. So that probably means that makes multiball harder to get because then you can't just shoot the right ramp and and start it. So the loops and the ramps are alternating. Um which is why Steve's trying to figure out how to transfer the ball over from one flipper to another. And that means sometimes they're probably going to have to shoot that that left ramp. But it might just be loops all day. Those loops are pretty hitable. You feed the pops, but you also feed the ABC, which is one of your body parts. That is the actually body. I think they needed a a four-letter word and didn't want to use obviously torso, so just said body. Chest. The uh the brain trust that got uh you know, there's been a Gotautle resurgence. I feel like a lot of people are appreciating this era um cuz they are pretty awesome. Yeah. Is this a premiere when they named them trying to make the Galip title exciting? The premier name. Yeah. No, Galip is solid. I mean, they're I've got a uh what do I have? They've got a Street Fighter 2, which is interesting. Um someone in the chat said, "I can't believe they get to practice. It's like a mulligan on every hole." You do run the risk though of blowing up your practice and then having three like no flip balls in the real game. So that is true. Practice is is good for a lot of these players cuz they they haven't played these games. If they weren't in NACS or if even if they were, they might not have gotten the chance to. So I think it's fair. All right. Feeling the tilt. Yeah, the till is pretty good on this. I've played golf with some people that take a mulligan on pretty much almost every [laughter] They're just out there having fun. Yeah, you're out there to have fun. You know, we're not on the tour. I suck at golf. But I have the classic I hit one good shot every time I'm out there and it gets me coming back. No one has a perfect day, even Tiger. It's a It's a lot like pinball. Like there's always You never have a perfect game of pinball because you drain and you know 90% of drains probably your fault. uh one way or another. And you have to adapt to this. You have to adjust. You learn to adjust to the wind, adjust to the humidity. Just in golf, there's so many adjustments in pinball. God, the rubber's big big part of it. Yeah, that the ramp setting is brutal. I I can't believe um the ramps are alternating. That is uh that's rough. They must have done that last time. Yeah, I think so. All right. Don't give up on yourself, Roger. We believe in you. You can do it. Roger has the people at his back here. He knows he's got Bowen up there, though. Yeah. Oh, he put four players in even though Seth's missing. All right, he does get a a flipper decision here and drains. Okay, that's Genesis. We we've got an area out front here for uh people can go smoke and there's a couple barrels and uh just no, it says no parking and uh Roger just pulls right up in front of it, parks, gets out of his car, comes in. He's rockar. He's a rock star. That spots Rogers, baby. Yep. That's awesome. Yeah, this course does not have any easy holes. Um I think I think the par is like I said is I've been told that you want to be getting threes and fours on average. Um but yeah, I guess it's a par five style cuz there are five balls. I'm I'm I'm not sure the exact translation. So Mike did not move his up his lanes up top for his body, but I think that matters too much. He does he did get the 50k from the out lane, but right when the target scores 2 million, all this single ball shenanigans is kind of uh just warm up to to whoever gets it multiball and whoever capitalizes [music] on it. Now, is this player three plunge? Oh, it is it? Yeah, it is. It is. Yeah. So, it looks like they're they're playing uh players one and three. And Roger's going to play by himself. That makes sense. Okay. Oh, yeah. He got the nine. So, is that an issue with the game or I think this prevent tilters. Yeah. All right. Yeah. They want to just That's how it was yesterday at least, too. Which if you don't wait long enough, you can still tilt through. Yeah, if someone rage tilts, got to take your 30 seconds. You get 30 seconds. I believe 60s. I I I heard I actually heard Zach yesterday say the top end of it is like 4 minutes before you get in trouble for waiting. But I think most people wait like 30 to 60 seconds. All right, Steve takes a shot at the ripe orbit. It's that that right orbit's a tight shot. Um Oh, it gets a tilt. Rough. Yeah. You know, some of the games are movable and others are definitely not. Yep. Yeah. For for every Bad Girls, you have, you know, some of these [laughter] some of these games you actually can't move. That's what practice is for. You got to find that where that tilt is. Yep. I'm surprised this during practice everybody doesn't go up there and just get it to tilt or a couple dangers. Sometimes I see just not even try to do that. Don't be nervous. You got it. I'd say this this ramp setting where it alternates is uh Do you know where the tilt is though? Now you should have just let it go. Just use your palms. Yeah, yeah, you really I I the right ramp all day strat isn't there. I think it it really is brain might be the move. I don't know though. I guess whichever whichever part you have the most letters for. Oh, good nudge. Nice. Nails the brain. He's not moving his ABCs for his body. I get my body. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Colin is in the later Yeah, I was going to say Colin rusting it up after yesterday. [laughter] there's usually like a little less people in the morning, so that that's why I like it. It's a little quieter. I try to avoid morning Kimble anyway I can, but I had to be here. The Raymond strategy. Yes. That's a tough one. I have long hours a lot of times here are the early You're also you too, Tom. You're here at the beginning and then Oh, yeah. all the way till the end. I had to tip out early last night and watched finals over at US CWF. Nice in lane. Steve's been waiting on that. Yeah. Take a shot at legs while it's lit. That's the one thing I can't see his his letter progress. Yeah, the I think he has a couple of each at this point. Oh, great save. Wow. I'll go run over and look. Uh, I was hitting the I I hit a couple of the Veron targets like that like Steve just did. I thought it was pretty safe. It is. Um, in multiball, that's the strat. I think you just shoot that all day. The only Yeah, the only problem is I didn't find it out until like ball four. [laughter] I did end up with a six though, so I'm happy with that. Okay. Yeah. This is like a rough one. It's like if you can get both multiball ball one or two, it's huge. But you just get in this hole where it's like Do you agree with this? The left flipper seems stronger than the right. Yeah. You can make it up the left ramp with the right flipper, but it it's you can make it up there after about 15 more minutes of of the game waiting. So, I need 150,000 more. That's my goal. Okay, that gives me a nine. This mean not a 10. If I can find that cuz when I get cuz when I get the end on brain, it will be the right ramp and then I'll just be like, "Okay, the game's over. What do I do now?" Yeah, let's save. No danger there. Interesting. Over to get the the brain. I like that. Does Genesis have any of the weird godly blast ball bonus stuff? Nope. No. Steve says no. I trust Steve. And is the score multiplier just top lanes? No. It's body parts. Body parts. Okay. In multiball. Yeah, in multiball. You have to get the multiball in order to have that multiplier. I had a six ice multiball yesterday and that very target was just printing points. It it was pretty crazy. Hits hits a left ramp for the love of the game. This is scary. Like you got to hit it. Now that it's lit, he's going to miss it. Yeah. Well, I actually like that. Gets your ABC. This is scary. Good save. Nice. Another one bounce. Okay, fair enough. See? All right. It's a body letter. Nice. He's got to be getting close to brain here. Brains. Yeah, the streamer did a nice fast job of showing those arms and legs. Yeah, it's a nice nails. The legs ramp. Yeah, you want those shots to be on the right. Um, yeah, he's in. So, he's in a good spot. Oh, slings. Changing. Go up there. Go, go, go, go. I think I counted. Are we taking? Yeah. You can't even like think about touching one of those rubbers cuz it won't go up. It needs to be green in lane. Uh, we won't we won't be streaming this side for the afternoon group. We'll stream the other nine. Yep. So, it'll be a note for tomorrow. [snorts] Yes. Come on. Let's go. Mike is getting things done. Yeah. Pretty solid here. Yeah. This feels fine. Happened to me yesterday. All right. We taking the left. Come on, ramp. Oh, he went on top. I like that. Don't even mess with it. It's been working. It's getting good feeds, too. All right. Nice. Come on. You have it. Good. Come on. Ramp. Nice round. Good. I like the brain. Come on. Yeah. He's using his brain and rushing brain. Okay. Come on. Right. Here's the right. Yes. Right. Ramp. Yes. Nice. So, you see that flashing indicates that's the ramp he needs. I don't know if he knows that. So, let's see. Take it. Great shot. Ra shot 4x stay up for like is lit. Probably won't stay lit. It's got to be close to legs. I've seen him hit a few lit. Come on. Yeah. Huge. Oh. It's a spot letter. They didn't even have any points on it. Uh, you don't have spot letter. Yeah, it goes up to 40k. Yeah. Like 6x 40k is 250. Bounce again. She has the target up on that three there. You want to take a pot shot at it and get get the body part free. I think all three are up. Okay. So, you can just get the three. Yeah. Live. Okay. Yeah. Why not? Little backhand. It's working. We do know where that shot is. Yeah. The left orbit and the right ramp are like must have shots, right? He's have them. He hasn't already over a million. This is just a monster ball for Mike. And this is a game if it if it lets you live for a while, you get that confidence you need to get things done. Nice shot. Was that the multiball score? Yes, it is. So, we're back. All right. Good 8x. Wow. Electric. The pops will give you a vary. Nice. Oh, he's only left with the arms to do for the body. For the complete body 8x50, though, that's not bad. He's already up to 1.6. Now he needs to find out unironically. Yeah, scores 50. And his extra ball lights flashing. I don't know what that maybe a light thing. Yeah, it's flashing. It's like it's flashing. They stop flashing when you flip sometimes. I don't know. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Hopefully it gives him an extra ball. Let's go. He's He's really flipping well this ball. Just keeping this thing alive. Come on. That's fine. I don't know if he's spelled body yet, but that's got to get him close. He hasn't. Is ABC also a bonus X? Uh that should be it. Yeah, he got hit. We're getting Oh, he's got it. Got it. Huge. He had he had that he had to multiplier X up. Yeah, he after hitting 15 his first two rounds, that three is massive. Steve does not even know what he's doing. He's like, "What did he do?" I told him he shot the right ramp and the left loop. Those are your shots. Just kept it alive. He's got it. This guy knows what he's doing. Oh, the bonus is only the leftover body part letters. Interesting. I think it spots a letter for every part. Uh Colin Asher Echer like explained this game to me at Indis uh in like a very quick 2-minute tutorial and that was the last draw of me not playing high stakes leaves. I was just like, "Yeah, I'm good, man." Oh my goodness. Well, if the game doesn't let you play, and that's what I was talking about with this. Now, here's here's the loneliest moment in Pin Masters. You have to plunge every ball away. And as you can see, Steve's shaking his head. He's looking He's looking at this 4x multiplier. He's like, I wish I could have that. So far, two of these three punches have gone right to the left out lane. Uh, yeah. Oh, he's he got a little confused. He's like, "That's not my ball. I just want to just making sure my replay works." Okay, good. Had some issues yesterday. Power outages and whatnot. There is a uh storm outside, so if uh for some reason the stream goes down, it's probably due to that. Yeah, that's some thunder. Oh. Oh, wow. We can see the uh the letter's not huge. Okay, so he's one away from brain and body. So he just needs to be shooting that left loop here. Oh, I don't like that. Well, so that hurts, man. That really hurts. He got He got He got his 500k, though. He did say that. And that's a nine, right? Yeah. Uh that's 400k. That hurts. Yeah. Not what Steve wanted. You got your 500k. You were scammed. Comm is over for me. I was That's it. No, it's not over. It's not over. One N isn't going to get you out of it. I mean, if I were say like Nathan, one N is If you're mean, 1 N is not. So, we know we know this format sucks. And I I know I I know I hate it as the most. The only reason why I'm here is because it's closed. If it were anywhere else, I would not be here. No, Rick Paparelli was like, "Yeah, this is the hardest tournament in the world." I I mean, I honestly agree with that. Yeah. Cuz it's not only the the target scores, which are taken from the national championship. [laughter] Also, the slings are tight. So, if you miss a catch, you're dead. I just want to know what the Aball score is after that. just double roll on me. That's I bet they probably count it. Yeah, because he posted the score a ball early, a game early. Yeah. So why? I don't know. One, but it may not count. Yeah. Mayor said that's an outlier. I don't care. That's right. But I mean, at least at least I have people who are cool to play with. That's that's my only silver lining. Playing with Steve. Say that one more time. What? The national championship. The scores are taken on the average of the national championship of pitball. No, that's the more the North American pitball championship. Yeah. The target score NBA fast break is 80. Oh my [laughter] goodness. Is it really 80? That's absolutely reprehensible behavior. Yeah. I can't even count to 80. That's crazy, man. I mean, that's most NBA games right there. Yeah. It's a barn burner college game, right? Besides besides for sure. Besides the fact that the games are set in a way where like it's the floatiest. And also, yeah, if you if you miss a catch, you touch the slingshot, you're in trouble. So, like demo man, man. And on that ball there where I was just fumbling, that would just mean like, okay, I missed the read. Now, what do I do? And now I'm in my own head again. And then I'm So, I'm already like the most nervous ever. Oh my gosh. So, yeah. And don't And don't like Yeah. Don't nudge it. can hit it, but don't nudge it. Yeah, you're right. The second you grab the game with your fingers, that's when you tilt. Yeah, that's so true. All right, time to reset. What's What's the next game? I don't know. Whole one. Uh, it is Harlo. Oh. Oh, really? Wrong one. Harlo. Okay. Yeah, you're catching up to my group now. But you only have three players. Yeah, that's supposed to save. Yeah. Whoa, he nailed that. He's giving it his He's giving it his little nudge. Nice. Good save. Yeah, it looks like Roger's kind of just I I like this. Just flip the shots available to the flipper instead of trying to transfer the shots is sketchy post. back hand. I did have a passing thought of going one, two, three and just, you know, just trying to go for every letter, right? Every letter once, but you're just asking for death on every flip to those things down and out lane. Yeah. Um, so that's why I mean I got one I I got one cuz I I found I only had the three left. I'm like, okay, I'll take the three. If I die, fine. If not, okay, that that feed out of the ramp is scary. Wow. He got a brain letter from that little half just by touching the gate. I mean, every feed from the shot of a body part is dangerous. Yeah. All right. Roger needs 400k to get a nine right now. Yeah. And once you get to ball four, you you start thinking about [music] not getting a nine. Come on, ramp. You know what? Yeah. Good. Yeah. Don't even find out. That was a prudent loop shot. Don't even find out. Just hit the shot you can hit. Oh, good notch. 50. Okay. 20k. Uh, yeah, Aaron. Uh, max is 10. You can't do worse than 10. You certainly don't want a 10, but uh Oh, Keith's here. I see him in the back there. Y nice. Yeah. Sling down plus the kicker high. Sometimes the kicker high and sometimes the Yeah. The kicker highrises aren't worth anything. Yeah. And sometimes the end of Sling Town, you don't even get your 50,000. So you don't you get nothing. There's a uh you know the the gym of the the complex is the the bumpers cuz that that left bumper will shoot it down the left out lane all the time. Does that very very often. All right, so he gets Oh my goodness, man. Does this game know who this guy is? I don't understand. Why is he Why is he treating him like mostly not, but that should be good for a nine. Yeah. No, the targets are the championship averages, not 50% of the championship averages. Championship averages. Plus 20% to count for par 4s. Is that what it is? Yeah. Plus 25% is something else. 25. Yeah. Off to Harlem Globe Track. Paintball Deluxe is a million. Okay. That's lower than I thought it would be. Stranger Things is 120. Wow. Shoot. Well, I I'm like looking at Deadpool. Deadpool's 150. I saw Jason win a game of Deadpool with like 30 something million. So yeah, Deadpool can just decide I'm not having it right now. Pad hands 40. That's tough. But yet people are going to get 20 on their round. Yeah. Just not this will never be me. I mean, you know, I I just know that because I just not have the flipper decision making skills on the It's the the small ball. I nickname it small ball. [laughter] So, when you're down here down in the by the flippers and you're not scoring anything, but you're flipping and doing stuff and and in lane passing and not dying and off the bottom of the slingshot somehow and off the tip of the flipper and then you have the ball. I can't do any of that. I can just flip it and then maybe get the ball that way, but none of that other stuff I can do on purpose. I can do it on accident. Yep. By accident, not on accident. I can do it by accident, but not on purpose. And that's going to be the difference. That's the thing. When you see that when you see playoffs Yeah. 100%. Like Zer that crazy eightball game. 80% of his flips weren't shooting at anything, right? They're shating, bouncing it over post catch. Um, and seeing someone play a game like that like and and the way I like to think about a shots is even if you miss it, it's probably less dangerous than just shoot the ball up top. And that's kind of the logic some of these kids have these days with how they play. Not for me. Because again, if you're talking about them, you got to play your game. If I do it, it's going to go off the bottom of the slingshot. It's down the middle because that's what happened. Yep. So, you know, if I can get to the point where every time I try it in lane pass, I know it will at least go to the lane, then that would raise my confidence in that move 50%. 100%. But I do not know where it's going. It's like, well, the the thing is right there. Yeah, it's right there. Yeah. Like imagine throwing a baseball at a target that's 2 in in front of you by about like extend your arm out in front of you. Imagine the target is about an inch in front of you and the whole target is the size of the ball you're throwing. And when you throw it, you can't hit anything other than that target. You can't hit any white of the paper. Only have to be the ball target. That's an in lane pass. It looks much easier than it is, but it's super treacherous. Yeah. I I um it's it's tough. And and and that's the thing like I I was playing tag team yesterday before it got kicked out and I shots twice up out lane. I was like out I'm done with that. All right. Yeah. Cuz it lights the spinner. That's kind of like the whole game and you're like nope not [music] anymore. Well players two and four here so I I'm third so I get to wait. Yeah. You get to watch. They they loosen the tilt on this. Um I when we were in the the car yesterday, Matt Richardson had a crazy shimmy. Um so that left out lane cuz there's a rubber. You can really save a lot of balls out of there with just big moves. There's a rubber meaning like on the sling itself. Okay. I was like, "Oh, there's other something there to help us possibly." They left that post in, though. That's nice. Yeah. It's I found this hole was very elusive, too. Um Yeah, that was Yeah, that was strange way to drop. It didn't even try to get me a hole off. Yeah, it's like metal. Like the gate has no spring. Sometimes the gates are very springy. Okay, we trying to tap. Yeah, the tap is pretty good on this. Um, but you know, Harlem's a game where it's like once you get a couple of those drops down, you just shoot a spinner. [music] Um, targets only 350 as well. So, those globe spelling globe is big, right? Yeah. So, you need So, targets are set to give a letter. Yep. Letters are not random. So, this is Yeah, this is the spell globe. Spell globe for 25 or 50,000. Yeah, figuring out that plunge is nice, too. At least like where it bounces, not on the gate and on the rubber. Um, that gives it a chance. Yeah, that right flipper is not as bouncy as it should be. Be careful. All right. The shots. Hey, that was cool. That was cool. That was kind of nice. I think it was a botched tap, but I post pass. All right, Mike is trying everything. I love it. He has He's practicing well. That's another thing I need to get better at and I don't know how to practice. How to practice well. Yeah. And like I'll forget something like I'll either forget the to check the tilt or I'll forget to check what the post pass does. That's the thing I always forget is the post pass because on a lot of games you start messing up the the tap or the shots or whatever. The post pass is your usually your safe haven cuz it works on more games than you think it would. Um, it doesn't look as cool, but this isn't about looking cool. It's about scoring points. So, yeah. All right. Mr. Sharp stepping up for his practice. I hope they're not waiting for me. I don't I hope No, no, they know. They know. All right. Yeah. They don't I hope they're not waiting for me to practice. Not too late. You guys finish. So, this is two and four as opposed to one and three. Yeah. displays, I guess. Let me check and make sure they're not waiting for me. Hope they're not. I haven't seen Roger practice yet, so Oh, okay. Oh, nice. This has the scores on the back glass, too. That's huge. Okay, so nine strokes is 70k. 70k. So, yeah. So, I've definitely seen lower than seven. Oh, yeah. If you get if you get one spelling, that's that's a nine. Yeah. The second one will get you to a seven probably. So, I'm I I'm after you guys. You guys can go ahead. It's a little lonely to play by yourself, too. It's a little lonely to play by yourself. Yeah. You get to plunge and then go into it. Yeah. I'm with that. Oh, you you got it on this. Just need to find those drops. Yeah, we got the big screen here. So, this hole is it doesn't like to go in the hole up top. It It falls out of the hole up top a lot. You got to get lucky or just nudge it in there. Yeah. Oh. Nice. Yeah, the first drop is the scariest drop. That can kill you. It could go to the right out lane. Yeah, if you hit that gate, that's not going in the hole. Nice. Did not tilt. He didn't tilt that. This tilt is loose, baby. Loosen. Nice. Found the gate. Yeah, the gate's nice from All right. So, two and four. We're going to plunge one. All right. So, no scoop love. Little early on this drop. Lives to tell about it. Yep. Are we tapping? No, we're going up top. Nice shot. Oh, that first drop will kill you. Comes right back at you. All right, Steve's definitely feeling uh the horrors of pin masters, but I He's such a good player. I I I think he can big ball one here would be huge for him. Let's see. Yeah. Get in there. Oh, yeah. I like being aggressive up top, too. Bounce. Nice. Bang. Oh, gets his gate. Big bounce. Yeah. Nice. Oo, great save into the drop. Yes. Oh, this going to be a little scary off the sling. Boom. Gets his 3x and he's two letters from globe. Gets his 5x. That's 50,000 in bonus right now. That was a nice bonus advance. Okay, he wants to hit that hole. nails the 25k. Might get my globe here. And it does. All right. So, Steve's off to a good start. He has 75k in bonus. So, he's going to have a little under 200,000. That's a good bowl one. That's a good ball one. He pretty much needs a ball around that caliber. Ball two. And he gets the ball on two. Yeah. No, the skill shot, the skill shot at each ball is huge. If you can find that. I think when I play this, I'm just going to just practice this the skill shot a couple times because it's it's huge getting in that hole. Mike's got this spinner down. He's getting a lot of globe letters. into the hole again. Wow. Big. Yeah, keep putting it up there. Nice. This is 50k now. We need some drops. I I like getting aggressive, but I think he's going to just put it up. He's He's been very successful up there. Just wait until it comes to the the left flippers. Okay. I like an upper flipping pot shot. Nice. Bang. One. Two. Oh, yeah. It hit the crook. It hit that little little crook there. And that's just so hard to to deal with. Um I think you just flip it away, but you you do run the risk of, you know, the ball going in between them. So, it's always tough. And you'll notice that that lower left flipper has a little give to it. So the bounce pass isn't really there. You really just want to flip with those two flippers. No scoop for Steve. flips away and gets to scoop that way. All right, nice hit. Got you got to say. Oh, good tap from Steve and the gate. Huge. Beautiful. Steve said it was over last last game, but I I if you can put together a big big game after Nice H after a nine was huge. Oh, great save. Yeah, you got to be aggressive on that on that left side. Nice. Yeah, don't want to trust the bounce there. Nice. Gets his globe and he's got it. Hits the scoop. Just the flex. Steve's back in business, baby. Hole in two. All right. So, Mike needs roughly a 200k. Um, there's no there's no super bonus that carries over on this game. So, each ball is kind of its own thing. Big I saw big two. That's a big two. I was so close to scissoring there. Like I was like, I don't know where this is going. I can't let it bounce off. It's off the joint. I can't flip it. What do I do? And the game helped me out cuz I didn't know what to do on that ball that was heading to the middle of the flippers. But I can't let it bounce. It's going to go down. I can't flip. It's going to get scissored. What do I do? Yeah, you almost got to just like wait till the very last second and flip. I don't know. Yeah, that Yeah, cuz I almost pressed it. I was about to and it would have been and it would have went through and then Okay, that wouldn't have been enough. Yeah, that was huge. [sighs] Mike is one globe letter away from another 50k. Yeah, that's that's also smaller than regulation. It just it's it's like the edges aren't as dipped in. Yeah, some grease on it. Yeah, there's no grace. There's a lot of har There's a lot of hariness on that thing. I mean, look at it. It just loves to swirl around. Nice defense. All right, let's see if we can get him the saucer here. There it is. 50k. Money, money, money, money, more money, more money, more money. Let's go. He's getting close. He needs some drops. Or just keep getting glow letters. That's He's He's been good at that. I don't know if the extra ball is points. It's 20 It's 20 right there. That's That's material. I wouldn't I hate going for that shot though. Yeah. I don't do that on purpose. Bonus advance. Yeah. Go, go, go, go, go. Get in there. Yes. Nice. Okay. Nice. Pick that up. Yes. Good. Three times don't tilt. Nice shot. And it'll be just just a few moments and we will be done. This game seems a lot more forgiving than Genesis. Well, this is refreshing. Well, it scores evenly. Yes, exactly. It scores more linear way. Yeah, you don't have to wait till multiball. Yeah, you got this, Roger. All right. 2,000 spinners. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. Out of all the games we've you guys have played so far, this seems the most colon one of them. Yeah. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. If you can if you can get the first drops down, that builds the confidence. And then is all okay. Can you get a ball in the right place on the slipper and don't break that first target down? Yeah. No, the first target is so scary cuz it's right at you. I I I saw one where it went out of the left or the right out lane. Like it's it's rough. Roger's got a smile on his face as always. When I'm getting a nine today, I I got to tell myself I get to play pinball today. Not that I I I have to play, right? Yeah. This is It's a ton of fun. This is fun. It just It's just fun, but we're walking on broken glass. Yeah. Right. Come on, ball. Slow down just a second. This is practice, right? Yeah. Okay. Good. Okay. I'm like, come on. I know. It's rambunctious. Okay. Get that out of your system. That was brutal. Yeah. Find find the tilt. It's really not there. It's very loose. Um, and this is a game though, like if you don't have a bonus X, you might as well shake the crap out of the game. True. Like, you know, 20k. Okay. Nice. Good. Woo. Okay. This needs to happen during his actual Okay, cuz that's the trap. It's like, okay, you do all the stuff and then now you play the real thing. You need to have a mediocre practice cuz whenever it's really really bad or really good, I I just always suck. But at least he's playing on his own. Yes. Which may not matter for good players, but for me it matters a lot because if I He said that. He's like, I'm a momentum player. I'm like, yeah. Most of my anxiety is if I drain, I'm I'm not playing now. I want to keep playing. Yeah. So, there's nothing worse than having a bad drain and having to wait for, you know, balls, you know, whatever it is. If it's 5 minutes or if an hour, I'm like, "No, I want to keep playing." No, no, no. And now when I get back up, I've forgotten where the shots are again. I got to relearn them. Where where is everything? No. You like forget your plan, too. You're like, "Yeah, what am I what what score do I have? What do I have? Where's my game state? What? Anything I missed on my game state that I that I forgot?" No. All that doesn't happen when you're playing by yourself. You just go back up there and go. Okay. Yeah, that Genesis. I can't believe they they made the ramps alter like the switch back and forth. That's uh that's I've never seen that setup. Um and it makes it really tough cuz that that left ramp is so much harder than the right. Um, yeah, that's that's going to be that's going to be a hard Roger's talking to Josh, telling him how to play Joker poker. Is joker poker one of the holes? I hope I think so. I hope so. Yeah. That's a weird one though cuz like those first two holes are kind of when I usually play, you know, they're they're not nothing holes, but I don't know. Juggle pull. You're talking about the uh what? The the 10 ball and the jack ball. I guess those are big though cuz you can get your 5x pretty easy. Those jacks always kill me though. It's a jack ball. Yeah. If you're doing queens all day, I mean, you know, which is not bad in p in pin golf. If if you do queens all day on ball one and just pick off the 10. Oh, by the way. Yep. Oh, okay. Yeah. Now you're looking at 30k plus five game bonus as well. It's true. Yeah. My my issue is is the king ball. That's the thing. It's like the lowercase king is like that will be killer in in pin masters cuz you know ball four is big ball four. You haven't gotten there yet but it's the king ball. Yeah. All right. Come on Roger. Let's get some momentum here. Feed there. Oh yeah. Strong 3x. Come on. I love how rock. Okay. In lane. Didn't even need the gate. Good. He could have shimmy that. It's so loose. Is it? Yeah, he has 3x. He has 3x. That's That's still a decent ball. 50k. Okay. Get that bad plunge out of the way. Yeah, let's go. I guess it just needs to be a little softer than a full plunge, right? Yeah. The one time I did close to it. It's not full plunge. It's like it's definitely softer than that. Yeah. Roger's got 50 years of pinball reflexes. That was crazy. All right. Three globe letters. Get in the hole, man. Yes. The double bounce. Great, too. Yeah, he made that happen. Yep. Give me those points, too. Yes. Absolutely. He's on the fly. Go a little early. Nice. That was interesting. Oh yeah, because it's it's it's in the scissor area, you know. He handled that very delicately. He did. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Come on. Lit. Oh, man. All right. 150. All right. Yeah, last last the demo man at RPC is definitely easier than this one, right? I agree. Oh, it's Randy. Oh, get in there. Get in there. Yes. A you almost look at this. Look at that. Ah gosh. Just makes a great save and then it kills him. That's just that reward you get is Oh, you did good. Oh, take this. Yeah. Left outline. Oh, that bad girl's uh special. Yeah, somebody just got 2 million. That's crazy. I don't even know that's possible. He must have like He must have had the special lit and then the extra ball lit. It must have hit both shots. Yeah. Well, let's just say he's done with that hole. It's over. That's done. Yeah. Falling again. Gets a nice little drop. Come on. Nudge. Good. Good nudge. Good bounce up. We needed it, too. Yeah, that was huge. Come on, Blender. Oh, tardy. Yes. Count it down. Yeah. And we got 12 plus. He doesn't have multiplier yet. No big the 25,000 click is the lights off. Nice. Roger's like, "Yes, I didn't get this light." Like this light is off. It's off. Yeah, that was 25. Yeah. Wow. Woo! Much awesome. Yes. That ball didn't quite save Pinball, but it might have saved his day. That was huge. You know what? It saves morale. Yeah. Saves morale. Exactly. You're feeling a lot better than you were after that. A little better. Yeah. You know, every nine you need to follow with a one or a two. A two anywhere is nice. Yeah. It's very green. I like that. All right. You got it. Sorry. That was huge. Oh, bad girls. Oh, man. Let's go. Very nice, Roger. [laughter] So, this game you can actually kirk pass on. Uh when when tap team went down against Jason, I picked this. And that center rubber is so bouncy. Um, not that you should kirk pass, but the the post pass isn't really there. I do think this is a game if you have the ball on the left flipper, you shoot that right orbit. If you have a ball on the on the right, you go just start multiball. But the the key point is that that center post, it saves [music] so many balls. You always want to keep your flippers down if it's if it's kind of heading towards the middle. Um, and the the it's the it's the wrong era of godly flippers, but they come up very high, so you can get a lot of traps. Um, they have the bouncy rubbers, but they have a little bit of give to them. And, uh, you know, they also are dropped a little bit, so shots are a little bit earlier than than you might think on on your local backs. Um, but obviously great [music] game from Noah and Jason on this in the finals last night. um just kind of crazy crazy rare you get to see a game of of bad girls like that with two players. So yeah, the control in this game is great. It it it's these I thought these flippers were stupid um cuz I didn't get to play it in practice, but um you know, two and a half million isn't nothing. you're you're maybe getting a million from your extra ball. But [music] um the other thing too to mention is that the the right loop on some Bad Girls, it'll go up and then come down and give you credit twice. It pretty much always goes all the way up on this. So, and yeah, bounce [music] passes are a little sketchier than than I need to tell Steve to try the B pass. It worked every time I did it in practice. Look at that. Just bounces [music] out easy. So I believe this [music] is one and three only as well. Roger going by himself again. You know what you can do in this game? You can do a curve pass. So, you can have the ball cradled, drop it, and it'll bounce to the other flipper. It's crazy. You I would try it in practice, but uh Jason and I were able to do it yesterday. So, that center post is really bouncy. Yeah. You probably don't if Yeah. A lot of people like to shoot a lot of people like to shoot this the right loop only. Yeah. cuz you get a million for your extra balls. It's pretty big. Um bonus X. Yeah. I I I I do think just going multiball. Just hit that target down. Multiball is probably the way to go. But [music] no, it just makes like getting the drops on the left easier. [music] Yeah. Look at that. That was crazy. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Um, all right. Rough ball from Steve. The skill shot in this game though is big. If you you plunge the ball and it hits the switch right here, it will lower the drop target for you to shoot it with the upper flipper in there to start multiball. So, yeah, it's [music] a soft plunge. You don't want it to go up here. Um, but you want to hit that switch. Yeah, it's like a medium punch, actually. [music] Yeah, it's it's early, but it's like middle early. like um yeah, the the it's kind of right in the meat of the flipper to lock in. Yeah. You'll see the target go down, the drop target, and [music] it'll tell you it'll award you like I think 100k maybe. Yeah. So, right here. So, if he shoots it in there, that would have been the skill shot. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. You just want you want it hits that switch and then go in there. Yeah. Yep. Yes. I'll get saved. Oh, this tilt's really loose, too. That's the other thing. Yeah. All right. Save again from Steve. And when this comes out, just hold your left flipper up cuz it comes out really fast. So Steve also has his blue light lit. So that's 250k for that lane up there. And now he's getting up there. He has his eightball lit. So this is the reck session. So you want to just shoot down all of the standups uh right behind the drops. So he has four left. And even if you hit a lit stand up, it it extends the hurry up. Um, so Oh, did he get the R there? Didn't get the R. Still worth 2 million, though. You really only need a You know, he needs Ah, all right. Three. Yeah. Now it's so low. It's not worth going for, but it's all right. That happened to me yesterday. So, that ball comes out of the scoop here and if you have a ball cradled, it sometimes will knock the other ball and have it jump the flipper. So, you kind of want to get rid of that ball if you have it cradled if that ball is going to shoot out of the screen. So, he's got the 200 lid on the right orbit. Do you have to go through the lane up top to collect it? No, you're just This blue lane up top is 250k. So, that's very nice if you can get into there. Okay. Yeah, but he's he's kind of in the multiball all day uh succession right now, which is good. Yeah, just keeping it alive. He punched that 200k. So if he shoots that extra ball, he got he has it. [music] Bang. So he he gets a hole in two again. Bang. Steve is back. Never count him out. Nope. Yeah, I actually kind of like using multiball cuz that rerrack bonus can be so tough using your multiball to just shoot that that right loop all day. You can stage the upper flipper. So, um, it's not a bad strategy if you just get a ball on the right upper loop, upper loop, upper loop. Yep. I should say right loop. [music] All right. So, this is Mike's second ball. Him and Steve kind of had nothing ball once, [music] but he did get his loop there. Oh, no. That's just a residual life. So, now his 50k is lit. Nice catch. of the drop. Yep. Drop's not too scary. No, I found though the bounce pass isn't as good on on these weird gobblely [music] flippers. That I found that out on one of my balls. Yeah, you do want to flip more balls away. That worked. [music] That worked. Yeah, wasn't too too bad. Oh, but he has his eightball lit now. He's He has to start his rerrack before multiball gets lit again. Oh, he gets his 250k. Maybe that's 100 something. Some amount of points. Let's see. 400. It's like 100 100,000. Okay. It's not It's not nothing there. I mean, yeah, this this right loop all day strat might be the one. He's making it work. Uh, he'll still have his eightball lit next ball, so he can bring his rerack in the multiball or take a single ball if he wants. [music] Now, now he's got to plunge three balls, which always sucks. Steve's probably pointing that [music] out to him. Yeah, the Kirk pass is so on. I want to see if Roger tries it in practice. I was telling him about it. There's no real reason to transfer the ball to the other flipper on this game. Um, but very rare you see a Kirk pass that isn't on Meteor or uh or Stars. This is 50k from the very target. All right. You can backhand the eight-ball, but yeah, just shoot loop when you have it [music] on the left. Bang. All right. So yeah, today we're playing uh nine holes. So some groups are on one nine and on one course and the other are on the nine of the other. And then tomorrow we flip and then tomorrow night we'll start the first round of playoffs. Top 24 make it in. Were there any games in nationals that were left out of of the banks 18? I'm trying to think. Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay, I guess we can see every every game that has a there's no bond. Yeah. Oh, there's no bond. Huge bond. Thank god. No tag team. Oh, [laughter] that was my ticket to beating Jason. Yeah, probably not. He probably would have figured it out. Ball three. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, this how you do it? Yep. [laughter] That game's so fun, though. It's just Alien Star Plus. It's great. Playoffs. Talking about playoffs. All right, here we go. Oh, no. I don't like this at all. I I actually really like the way this bad girl plays. Play so good. The tilt's great on it, too. That was just unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah, you can you can move it. Yeah, you know, it's not quite like Harlem, but you can you can get away with a lot, right? This the the Harlem into Bad Girls is is a refreshing reprieve from the the brutaless of the rest of the bank. I think I agree. I think both those games are pretty viable to hole in one. Oh, there it was. Wer. All right, big ball. He's at 1.85, which I would assume is like a seven, maybe an eight. Jerome plunge just got a million. [laughter] that'll be on wild card next. Oh, nice. all the uh the games. That makes sense. Okay, let's get some control. Yes, good nudge. Takes the loop. [music] It's a spinner to feed that upper flipper. Okay. And oh, is he going to get over 2 mil? Okay, that's good. That is probably saving him a stroke. Not exactly sure what the stroke scores are. Pinball or gunshots. I know it's it's insane. The 10 replays in a row is a bit a [music] bit egus. All right. And this is Roger stepping up for his practice. What did he end up there? Okay, 2 mil was a six. Nice. Okay, so that really only lost one stroke on that last ball. Very, very clutch not get a seven there. I will say that. So yeah, par is considered a four. So any four is par. Yeah. So anything below four and below got a green and everything above it. Oh, I see. I'm I'm feeling a hole in one. It's coming. Got to see one on stream. All right. Definitely not easy to do here. No, not at all. I didn't get to play that wild card. Is it? How's it playing? It plays fine. Yeah, I took a five on it, but I should have probably had like a three. Yeah, it's like had I known the things I known by the time I played it, I probably would have played it better. Yeah. And I'm just talking like sure physics. Yes. Yeah. No. Yeah. Each game has their own. Yeah. Yeah, I was trying to get Echer to make that the game he swapped into uh to main and this looks like he got his uh skill shot there. Yeah. So, he's got his drop down. Yeah, I told him about that. It It's just so nice to not shoot that scary drop. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Off the upper flipper. [music] That's tough. Roger's got a lay of the land now. Knows how it plays. Yeah. It doesn't carry over. You got to Yeah. Oh yeah, he got Oh no, I'm sorry. I'm looking at the next player. See, still doesn't. So I think you got to hit it every ball. Okay. Yeah, it's like a medium punch. It's a short punch. The short punch is nice cuz it doesn't validate the playfield, but Right. [music] Nice. So get some get some of his drops down, too. [music] Nice. Oh man. [music] Hits the hard upper flipper shot and then dies. Man, the upper flipper to the lock is so early. I wouldn't use that. I wouldn't use that at all. If you can get that skill shot combo so so big. You could essentially start every ball in multiball. It's it's really nice. Ah, he just missed it there. But now he has he has his rerack lid, which I kind of think like the re-rackck is a good hole in one score, but like that right that right loop is so big. Right. L was the strategy cuz I had my reck lit and I was thinking about completing it and I was like, "Okay, I might complete this and then on my fourth I was like, "Nope, forget it. Don't be tempted." No, you you were smart to just like if that cuz that that kills you. That side to side is dangerous. Now remember, Roger, when you're watching this back, your kids set these games up. Yes. Yep. You should maybe have a word with them. And the scores. And the scores, too. Yeah. And the scores. Now, technically they said it was from the first couple of rounds. Oh, it was the first couple. Okay. Yeah. Well, more data, I guess. Okay. So, there is All right. So, that may be a little bit more reasonable, right? So, that X-Men score is all my fault, right? You didn't see like the Noah Jason like get factored into this. Okay. Thank goodness. Jeez. Yeah. He might have been here all day and and it doesn't hopefully not that Jason's a ball scoring. All right. Things are looking awful. Let's see how this feeds. Okay. Feeds the upper flipper. Yeah. And it needs to be on the rail, too. If it's off the rail. Nice. Go, go, go. Nice in lane. In lane. Yeah. Okay. Get it. Give it to him. No. Ah, he's actually kind of close. Yeah. He's He should have it. Next ball. I don't know. Yeah, he has a lot of balls, so he has a lot of bonus. Yeah, as long as he he doesn't have he doesn't have 74,000, but he he might have upper in upper top lane plus upper traffic and then 74,000. That's what [music] he goes for. It's a P. It's an O. Oh, gets an in lane. And now he's within. Yeah, now it's hard. Okay. How many balls do they have? One, two, three. He has two rocks. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's okay. Fine. Oh, fine. Fine, fine, fine. Count it up. Roger. Yes. [laughter] Woo. All right. Two games in a row. No one got over over a five. All right. Love that. Awesome. Now we need to play some wild cards. What is the name? Wild card. I don't think I've played that. Can't wait to learn how to play this. Yeah, I have no idea. I'll let him find out. Smash ball. He's a million. That's hilarious. He did tell me he knows how to play this game. So, I'm feel I'm feeling a good score out of Roger on this one. I think he gets to go last again. [laughter] I did not make a shot. You You clutched it up though. That was big. Okay. That was a big ball. Yeah, we had a we had a wild card at a private residence in the city and they ended up selling it. It's a fun game. I remember the year I went to Papa in 24. I couldn't even the cues for were so long. Um it was very popular. If I'm not mistaken, you want to up top all day from the right and then the left is maybe at two lane until the center spinner's lit. The horseshoes. Nice. This is probably one of the games I know the least here. Oh yeah, it's a great back glass. It's great playfield. It's his poker face. Exactly. He's got a wild card up his sleeve. Roger. Roger's giving Steve some wisdom here for a change. Yep. Okay. Max bonus, then double bonus, then spinner out. Got it. And you double bonus from Oh. Oh, got it. When lit that left loop lights up. Yeah, I'm I'm feeling Roger on this one. He knows what he's doing. I love this error flipper, too. Shoots really snappy. Oh, one or two two one or something. So, both of those are lit. You want to go there to two. Exactly. And that it's it's pretty much the only format that I know of that you're like cheering on everyone in your group. Yeah. We'd all we'd we'd literally all be in jail if not left orbit once light spinner twice. Double bonus. Got it. All right. So left orbit's big shot. All right. Steve's going to do some practice. Maybe try to find this plunge as well. Get a full plunge there. Just Oh, gets in. Nice notch. Okay, so that lights spinner feels on on this era of flipper. It's like dead in the middle. It's not It doesn't seem like a clean spinner shot. See if Steve takes a shot at it. Okay. Yeah, cuz you're shooting it into the pop. It's kind of like a bow and arrow. Like it can rip, but it's depends the angle you take at it. Okay. Getting in the pool is going to give you one of those cards or one. Yeah. I I I truly think like you can tell if you're you're in a good community is if people are helping each other out. You know, I think uh in pin masters you get a lot of knowledge that you know, even if you know how to play a game, someone might have a tip for you that you never thought of or a strategy. All right, I am back. All right, so I I figured out how to play this one. I think it's left orbit once to light spinner, twice to double bonus. Um, and you can build there's various ways to build bones. It is a long practice, but you know, who cares? A lot of people in this community like to complain about how long people take between balls or long practices. It doesn't add that much time to the tournament. Steve feels comfortable. He's ready to go. He's ready to hole in one. He's got two hole in twos in a row. This is his time. Nice horseshoe to start. He wants to get this ball up that left loop. Oh, it almost does it for him. That's scary. Hello. Okay. Another one. Jeez Louise. And knowing pinball, he won't get another horseshoe the rest of the game after getting three. Ball one. That's uh it's not a safe dead bounce. He survives. Nice. I like the holding the flipper up. He adapted. Yeah. All right. Doubles his or lights a spinner. It's another bonus advance. Yeah. Yeah, the layout's a little similar to Aztec, just the spinners in the middle. 400 is a high target here. It is. That's very hard to hole in one. Even a max double bonus is is 100k. So, you're going to have to get some spinner points. All right. Lights a spinner there. That spinner doesn't rip. So, seeming like it's like 5 to 10k every spinner. Oh, nice. We are back. Missed it. Yeah. I don't like the spinner on the fly. You mean we didn't loot that thing up? I I I uh I don't know. I don't know. I I think he could have just maybe shots that, but Oh, he got no spins. That was disgusting. That spinner is not friendly. We're not in California anymore, Steve. Oh, there we go. Hello. And a bonus advance. It's a productive ball so far. Come on. Uhoh. Yeah. Could have maybe nudged it off that rubber, but it's so hard to read it up up there. The the the one nice thing about this game is you're not plunging any balls out. You're you're going right into the next ball. Yeah, spinner needs a little bit of juice. Let's put Pulp Fiction spinner on this. Yeah, right. I think I know a guy here who could get us a Pulp Fiction spinner. Yeah, it's the best spinner in pinball. Yeah, it's awesome. Oo, watch out. He got it. He's okay. See how this feet is horrible. Oh, no. Shot it. Oh, nice. It looks like he's getting 15k from that horseshoe. Now it's two lights on flip away. Tried to bail out to the spinner. That was an attempted shot. All right, so this is ball hard to see. You've got the eyes. Yeah. So, it says one. So, I'm assuming that means there's one ball left. So, it's ball five. Yeah. Balls to play. Nice shot. He really just needs to focus on doing that again to double his bonus, I think. Nice. And he gets duh. Okay. So, five for Steve. This seems like a really tough game to get uh a one out, a one or a two. I I I don't know how someone does it. Roger might show us here. Just get rolling. It's every once I just I played Gorgar and I had two horrible games and then I had one of the best games I've had. Yep. And uh that's pimbo. Yeah. Especially nine games in in this in this session. That's that's a lot of games. Thank goodness. You clutched out a five there, Steve. Yeah, I was like, I gota just stop doing flipper tricks. You don't do them well. Just play the Yeah, you did that shots and I was like, I promise you I am the most nervous person in the building. I'm like, no, I can't. Ah, [screaming] where does this go? Ah, when that when that left soup shot it into the into the slingshot, I was like, "Oh my god." I was relieved. I was counting on it cuz the only thing I got, the only thing I knew was that if I have the ball up up there, it might go into that little candy cane area. Oh, yeah. You're getting good points for that, too. Bonus advance plus like 15 to 20k. Nice. 10k in advance. This is This is practice. Uh, they start he's starting. Oh, yeah. Go. I don't It might be It might be practice. I'm not sure. Oh, he's kind of doing his little test. Yeah, he's doing testing. Yeah. And that I didn't know what to do there. Yeah. And I knew I was dead. I was like, I'm here and I'm dead. I don't know what I'm I'm dead. Uh what can I shake it? No. Nothing. Flip anything. No. It's like one of those things that's like in theory you could nudge it off, but it's like who has the foresight to see that? Yeah. It It's easy to do it here. See it here. I would I wish I could have the video game angle we have here while I'm playing the game cuz then I could see that while I'm standing there. I can't see that. This angle is very deceiving. No, no, it's very deceiving. Yeah. All right, first ball. Roger knows this game. Yeah. Thank you, Roger, for giving me at least some some help on this. All right, a little late. Yeah, that that sucked the way it came out. That went in there. The right one's right, but the left one is disgusting. All right. Early. Not that early. Gets it up there, though. Maybe some candy cane. Uh. Oh, no. Bounce. Oh, jeez. I totally misread that. Oh, yes. Very nice. Awesome. Yeah, that post at the bottom of that loop is is it'll be Oh, good nudge. Is this a tilt ends game? Do we know? I don't want to find out. That's why I wasn't nudging. I was only slapping at best. Yeah, that was a good rip. And I guess yeah, you don't need to double bonus until you're maybe at like 25 till the the EV of that shot is like actually strike shot is got his bonus up to 20. Little under 100k. Ooh, good reaction. Okay, he wants the spinner. Watch out for the spinner. Oh, it almost went to the other scoop. That would have been nice. And now I feel like that left loop is very valuable shot if you can double his bonus. He went for spinner there. Who knows? He might have went for the left orbit, but the ball was in the air. The flipper weight is different. That's right. I was flipping too soon for that left orbit and I couldn't find it until way later. It seems like a late shot. Definitely. Ooh, that was excellent. Yeah, his bonus is huge right now. Please get the double bonus. Come on. Please. And he knows. Don't do it, Gabe. Okay. Everyone should note that little red plastic. That's the dead area. That is a bad neighborhood. It's got that angle just to put it right down the middle. Yeah, that's good design. Excellent design. Good design, guys. Williams hit it again. Oh, we have a TD call. Or is there a Maybe he was just waving. No, it looks like there's an addition. Oh. Oh, okay. Let me head over there. Looks like a flipper. Oh, someone help Roger. Yeah, Flipper's happy. Oh, damn. Roger's trying to just give some magic. Fix the flipper. Hey, if I was a flipper and Roger Sharp was playing me, I'd be happy, too. All right. So, he already almost halfway there on one ball. So, that was great. He only needs one, two. Where is it? Where's the deuce that he needs to light the Oh, it's on the right saucer. Okay. He only needs that to light the special points. That's 100,000. Oh, hello. 100k. Yeah, there's 100,000. That's what I was hoping for when I got the last card. Specials in the I needed it. I was like, "Okay, I'm less than 100. Please just go in there." Yeah, but it's kind of like the uh the hot tip scoops. These flippers, you're never shooting them directly, but if it goes in there, right? All right. Take a picture. This sucks because if this ends his game, he won't have his progress. Yeah, he has all he has seven out of the eight cards. That's what he was talking about. It's a feature, not a bug. Yeah. I mean, Roger's not cradling anyway, but that you don't want to like blow the coil or something, right? Yeah. That wire came off the hold. I know nothing about teching. It's all just magic to me whenever these guys come in and fix it. Also, thanks to everyone at OD like Adam here kind of doing a really good job. Adam was a magician. Oh my goodness. Yeah, he had like starship troopers open on one side and then he was fixing trying to fix tag team. It was it was crazy yesterday. He should have just burned Starship Troopers. [laughter] I played the first game I actually played the first game ever on it. I actually I had a fun time. I was like, "Okay, the ramps are fun." Dant, you want to go to Dant? [laughter] Yeah, it's a funny game. You got the Oh my gosh, the guy popped up. I didn't even know it had it. It scared the crap out of me. Yep. He's only worth like a million. Yeah. [laughter] I like looked up and I'm like, surely that was like 10 million. I'm like, nope. Yeah. Yeah, when I saw that in the bank and I'm like, uh, some someone over the age of 50 is picking that against me and that's what happened. It's a it's a it's interesting playing that type of game with the uh the pink rubbers. That that is never how that game probably is ever played. How are you feeling about your uh first nine holes so far? Terrible. The nine is I'm out of the tournament. Uh yeah, nine. The nine I'm out of the tournament. Like it's done. So now you need an average four is what everyone's been telling me. Seven 12. Yeah. Like Yeah. I was out of tournament on whole three. So that's how I feel. If you can put together like an average of two or three over the last three though, maybe there's still some EM left. Oh yeah, there's still some EM left. And I got X-Men over there which probably going to have a crazy target score. So I mean there's games I can play, but the target scores are crazy. I put up a billion on it in the first round and it's 200 million. So, is this still a Rogers game? Yeah. He had a money for one. Yeah. With seven out of eight cards. So, he's having a He's having a flipper or something. This is going It's happy. Oh, it's like the low power something something. Okay. Yeah. Broken hold winding. So true. Gotcha. Um Yeah. The Here's what I'll say about that X-Men is the center ramp is a vacuum. If you even like put it in the general direction, it'll I like that. Yeah, it's it's very nice. Oh, and it's a reverse stage. So, I was able to keep a ball in the danger room and then flip the normal flipper, right? Yeah, that's design. That's That's super cool. Uhoh. He just shocked himself. Like, you know, battle damage. Battle damage. Oh, man. Is it still pouring outside? I don't know. Yeah, it was really bad this morning, wasn't it? Glad I ran in to get a soda gas station. I mean, yeah. I thought I jumped in the shower, man. I mean, I'm looking like I look I got three holes left. What are the three holes that are left after this? So you got Atlantis next, Starship Troopers and Transformers. Okay, Atlant's at 1.2, Star Trip Troopers at too much, and Transformers at way too much. There's nothing there I can ace cuz I need I need two aces. What's What Starship Troopers at? 80. Oh man, that's too much. Yeah, you finally have a good ball and the game breaks. What's going on? Yeah. So, I'm just looking for things I can ace cuz if I get an ace and that makes the nine a 4.5 and then I need one more in order to make that nine a three. Yeah. And so, and and I'm still not in finals because the finalists are going to make the finalists will not get above a five their entire round. So, that is guaranteed. If we're saying if [music] we're saying for any hole for any one hole, they will not get a five for the entire 72. So, you probably it's the cut off is going to be around 70 is the logic I guess. Yeah, cut off 870. That's just that means a standard pin. That that means a standard golf round in real life, which means no nothing of no double bogeies, which means no sixes. If a par is four, you could probably get away with a six. That means no sixes, right? So that means Yeah. nothing of over five. So your first six, you're out of the tournament. What was the cuto off last year? I would have to ask Josh cuz he's probably the only person who knows. Yeah, he probably has has the data if he keeps all that stuff. Yeah. Or it's on match play somewhere. Yeah, cuz they they do use match play to enter in the scores. I will get the link for match play up later. Not see point point of order. I'm sorry to interrupt, but I have to adjust the point of order here. Point of order. Zmac pinball. You can definitely survive. That guy, by the way, I hate that guy. He doesn't know anything. Zmac pinball. He sucks. You can survive an [laughter] You can You can not a normal human being like you. Let's time that guy out for 15 minutes. I can't believe you'd even say that. Oh my gosh. Borderline bad. Oh my gosh. Tax brackets. Exactly. Yeah. Zmax in the top tax bracket talking about nines. Talking about working in a drive. There's got to be a handicap. Handicap. I would like to qualify. That's all. Like if I qualify it would be my first in golf they have a handicap. Why can't we have it in BIPO? Well, not for money, right? You know, not when you're not when you're getting paid, right? Not at the US Open. The cut off last year was 82. This is the US Open. So, you know, Yeah. This is of course, you're in, Steve. You're in. There you go. The cut off. The cut off is 82. Okay. So, that's that you can survive a few sixes and sevens. All right. Zax Zmax back in good graces. He's providing useful information. Keep providing some false hope. Thank you for providing that for that. Yeah. Play with one hand today and we have Keith Owen playing like this. That's already a spot gone. Yeah. Oh no. How do you How do you think of the games uh this year compared to last year? Like in terms of toughness? In terms of toughness, a little bit easier. Yeah, I agree. Definitely a little bit easier. Um you know, as far as I mean, well, also part of it is that I'm I'm beginning to understand that I cannot catch the ball. Like don't try to catch the ball. You're not talking me. I'm not talking about any of you. If you're if you're good at catching, you do what you want. But if you miss a catch and the ball goes in the air at all, it's going to hit a sling and it's over. You're just you're hoping to get the ball back. I I I do think on these rubbers, drop catch is your best friend. You need to do little baby drops or, you know, ideally drops to cradles cuz Yeah. live catch, bounce pass, scary stuff, right? And and the thing is like live catch. No, not even that. It's like post pass. Okay. Right. Yes. Post pass. The safest moves in the safest moves in pinball, right? No, it is not. No, it's not. It goes into the when you don't know what it's going to do. Yeah. Like, so you practice it on bad girls and I do it and it does a whole upper. Okay, it made it. And then the second one doesn't make it. So now it's like, okay, I have no idea what this post pass is going to do. Here we go. Is there anything else I should do? Maybe I should ali pass. Maybe I should shoot at something. I don't know. But you only get to find out right now. Right. You're not going to play this game all weekend. And it's not even that. It's go time right now. Right now. And it's worse than that. You have a physical gun to your head. Yeah. You do. Every ball you do. It's It's virtually that because I mean it is cuz it's worse than that because it's not like playing a normal game except a Z. Yeah. Well, except for players who who are used to doing it that way. Some of the players who talk on hidden forums about EV expected value and we're not playing poker. Yeah. Talk about that. Yeah. Those guys, they can handle that. But no, no, it's like it's the issue with pinball, any pinball format away is uhoh. Is that every ball is worth an infinite amount. Yeah. One ball is worth infinity. That's the thing. That's that's what's great about any standard game if you fail ball one. You can get a billion on ball two and three and still be fine and still win the game. On this one, ball one's down. That's ball one is gone forever. Ball three and ball two is ball three. Every ball is the last ball. It is they are all worth infinite value. And that is and that's another part of my anxiety. It's the only tournament. I know that it's the only stressful. That's what makes pin pin golf special. Any pin golf, not just this pinolf, any pin golf is like that. But this this pin golf is even more special is the fact that there's US Open difficulty. Yep. Plus, you know, different different changes as far as like um target scores for are way harder than you might get at any other tournament. So, all adding all that together. Yeah, we got the All Here we go. Roger's here. Sharp. How you doing? How's it How's How's it feeling so far in the round? Oh, this feels incredible. No other place I'd rather be on a rainy day. Perfect day to play. Feeling great. Yeah, it's always nice to kind of help destroy a game. Yep. And you know, put put up one of your only good balls and then the truth. I'm like, you're already halfway done. The game's like, "No, we can't have that. We can I was more than halfway done. All I need is one ace, right?" Done. Yeah. It's like, "Wait, no, we can't have this. Someone's winning the game." No, no. Break on them somehow. We can't let old people do those kinds of things. No, I mean, but this it's a great event. Yeah. And hopefully everybody's having some fun with it. Uh I'd like to do better than I would do actually on a golf course, but [laughter] I I struggle I struggle every year with pin masters. But uh there's no event like it. It's super super unique. Um you got to just change how you think about pinball, too. Every ball is its own game. Yeah. Well, I I think you know the the key truthfully is from my perspective, what are you setting your target score at? Yeah. And and is it reasonable for all levels of players? Yep. And and I understand all the steps in between in terms of getting up here, right? And the problem is you have very skilled players on modern era games, let's say, where oh, I can do that in one ball. Yeah. And what you'd like to do, at least my perspective on it, is like to have it really be difficult for somebody to get an ace. Yeah. I mean, if they can get a two or three and get an eagle or a birdie, that's great. Sure. But you want it to be something where it's more fluid than that. as opposed to bottom feeders like me where it's like okay you know let me let me see what I can do at to get a nine or an eight or a seven in terms of how however you're struggling. So there there is that balance and uh again I mean I love the format. I think going after a target score from my perspective uh is much better than some of the other tournaments where it's like all right you have to do this one feature. Yes. And accomplish this one task. And that's not pinball to me. You know, I mean, the boys have always joke that uh I will make a ramp shot over and over again, even if it's not worth anything, just because I love making this shot. Yeah. And it's the truth. I mean, I I don't play strategically the way that all of you guys do in terms of your touch. So, you know, it's it's a different mentality and approach to pinball in terms of cradling, slowing down the action as opposed, and I mentioned it to you before, and passing. For me, it's all rhythm. I mean, if I can really get moving, then everything's going to happen naturally rather than stop and start. Yeah. Like that ball you had, it was like as the ball went on, you were making more and more shots. You were making more things happen. Yeah. His accuracy was increasing as the ball went on. You could tell like you know it was it was amazing. It's like an old school running back. You know, as the game goes on, they start getting more yards. Yeah. No, definitely. It's It's funny you say that because you do have to turn the the fun part of your brain off in tournaments sometimes, unfortunately, because just because a shot is fun, especially on a lot of these new games, it's probably not the shot you should be shooting. And you kind of have to stop the ball. You have to assess, all right, what am I going to do now? But there's nothing better than like hitting a spinner, like a lit spinner. That's why I like the old games cuz they make it just a little bit easier. But for me on Genesis, you know, I mean, in retrospect, and I played it against whatever the strategy should be. I should have passed it over because that part's lit. That's not lit. Why are you making this? Mhm. Well, because I want to, right? [laughter] I'm sorry. I know it's not lit. It's going to come down. Maybe I'll get it to the left or the right depending on where it needs to be where the intelligent player is going to do a tap pass over. Maybe you sh it and get up and whatever else. So you got a little points that way. It's like, okay, fine. Now I'm lined up where I want to be. I can get the legs or I can get the brain. And for me, it's just a question of like it's getting rhythm, if that makes any sense at all. It's whatever the game is going to give me, I feed off of that. Yeah. as opposed to something that's more sluggish when we were playing demo man. I Are you kidding me? I can't make that shot in the computer. Where is it? Yeah. I mean, three balls where that's that's my start, right? That I mean, once that happens, okay, it's going to come down. I'm going to hit a ramp, hit a center, whatever it is. there there's a certain flow and a methodology to it which when I watch you guys play really talented and skilled players I see fundamentally it's more playing chess rather than me I don't know playing checkers having fun having fun it is but it isn't I mean I've talked about it a little bit in the past not on air or whatever else. But I think that I grew up with small flippers. Yeah. And slings sometimes or whatever else. Unusual bottoms. And the idea of cradling was huge to be able to learn how to do that. But you don't do tap passes and stuff, right? And it's like, you know, sorry, that's a small flipper person. I I equate it with anybody who plays golf. If you started off with pimmen woods and now you're playing with metal woods or I started playing tennis with a wood racket, it's it's all totally different in terms of feel and and what it is that you can do in regard to really interacting accordingly and appropriately. Anyway, I I do think there's something to be said though, like on that Genesis example, hitting a shot and building your confidence. you hit a shot and now you're like, "All right, I could do that again," right? You know, it it is something like, "Yeah, maybe the smart move was to transfer, but sometimes if you haven't hit a shot all ball, you need that little confidence boost cuz pinball is as much a mental game as it is a physical game, especially in these circumstances. You get a nine on your last hole, getting a two or a one next hole is huge. You're all the way back. Yeah. It's huge. Yeah. And then that's what once I saw that nine, I'm like I was look I I really looked at all I looked at all the holes and say, "Okay, is there anything I can ace and make that a 4.5?" Cuz I just got an F. Can I get an Ace or can I get a C? I get two C's and then I can Okay, see I got two C's. I you know, it's okay. But one another thing about pinolf format is that it's one of the better formats to broadcast because it's based not only this, but it's based on target scores. It's a score that anyone can understand. It's a number. get to the number, right? And also another key for say like sponsorships and time things is the better you do, the shorter it takes. Yeah, that's the key. Okay. The tournament that gets sponsored by whoever is going to be pingolf or amazing race, bro. Yeah. Amazing race. All right. Because you're going to have you're going to know it's going to take this mount and then you're going to have the two-minute ad break and you're going to know this next match is probably going to be around 5 to 7 minutes and then you can have the two-minute ad break. The problem with having a high score contest like we normally do is you have the top player in the world getting played Bat Girls and and tearing that game apart and everybody's dying. You know, we're all we're all excited cuz we're all crazy cuz we're all pinball people. We understand why that was awesome, right? But but for the people who don't understand why that's awesome, they lose that and then it's just sparred. But if you don't see an awesome thing, but you see they're already close to the target score on their first try. That's something anyone can understand. It doesn't matter what activity it is. Yeah. So So yeah. Or the opposite. They they just missed what they needed for a five by like a little bit. You're like, "Oh, that's got to that's got to We had someone get on Bat Girls 2 million and something." Yes. And the target for the next point was 2 million. Everybody understands that. There's no doubt what that is. And so that helps as far as like broadcasting pinball in general. I mean, even though pin golf as a format and the major race is sort of nerfed as far as major raises, okay, let's say we get like 10 of us, right? We all play bad girls, right? Say I'm first, I get 3 million, right? Now that's the target for everyone else. As soon as you pass 3 million, you're done. You're done in 3 million, you're done. Someone gets lower, they're now on the hot seat and I'm out. I'm good. Someone gets 2 million. Oh, now you got to pass 2 million. I'm good cuz I'm I'm out. And then last lower score is eliminated. That's interesting. And move on to the next one. It's a different kind of pressure than even this. Oh yeah, it's a different kind of pressure. is very very interesting pressure cuz it's not quite like pin golf because it's not one ball is infinite value but you do get to that point where it's like huh you know I I kind of need 10 million and I'm at like six I think I can start the multiball and get enough yeah strategically you wind up changing your whole approach 100% you're you're not playing the game optimally you're playing it to the score that you need which is a lot more dynamic and entertaining definitely That was a very very different sort of pressure especially during like the the amazing race I was in uh Ohio at Trent's place where it was a circuit event. Okay, that was serious. I mean, you know, that was a serious I mean, you know, you're just trying to get Oh, man. I I just all What happens is you end up doing that whammy trap like all I need is you're dead. You're done. Don't you cannot think that. All I need is 20 million on Iron Maiden. You will get 17 million. I I promise you will get 17. You let it enter your mind that you could get less than that. Yeah. All I need is 10 million on Tron. Oh, really? Now you're going to miss Kora the whole game. You're not going to hit it one time. So, it's that's all that's part of it. So, it's not quite as, you know, cutthroat dad and and die every ball at pin golf, but the pressure is definitely What's nice with this is it really is the player and the machine. Yes. Everybody else is immaterial. The point that you said before brought up a memory for me with uh the IFPA when uh we started and I had already been doing pop in events with Steve and everything but uh working with some of the distributors and people from uh state associations distributors and we were setting up all the machines for the first IFPA which was going to be at uh the Hilton at O'Hare airport. Nice. Wow. Like you're doing extra balls. [laughter] No, I mean the only thing I was concerned with was you know whatever the random values might be. Yes, we can make some settings. And the part that was astounding to me because you're talking about with sponsors and everything else here are people who are into darts and pool. Pinball was just another artifact of wanting to hold on to locations and get contracts true and simple. The first rounds started and I remember I won't say his name coming, oh my god, just taking so long and I said, "Yeah." I said, "But in darts the better you are, the quicker it goes." I said, "Well, guess what? This is what we're stuck with for this weekend." And [music] it was it was brutal. Yeah. But I think that you know to your point it becomes much more accessible when you say here this is it. Oh I understand that they got the epiphany too late. Second year when we were in Milwaukee all the changes were made accordingly because they had learned their lesson right but the marathoning of what we went through was just insane. and stacking multiballs and it's like okay but that it was fascinating to me because it wasn't as if I was ever really watching dart competitions but as I said oh no boom boom done done yeah 301 I'm done you know guy guy's done right I mean he hasn't even finished the first ball yet right and yeah that's part of it I mean and I mean yeah why do I even know what 301 means It's like I don't watch Dart but I know what the significance of 301. Yep. I haven't watched Dart since a couple years but I know you know but but now you got people screaming on the audience 180. You know what that is? But that becomes that becomes really the big point for what everybody has talked about whether it's with the oo doing some things in the past of you know how do you make this more accessible for people. It's kind of like what they do with poker showing the hold cards. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Now I know strategically what's going to be going on with this. You have to have something that is time based [music] and it's not a question of hi we're going to do this competition. It's just a one ball game because you know we have to break in 10 minutes for a commercial. I mean you don't want to lose the essence of pinball for the mass market and hopefully sponsors or major networks kind of picking it up. But I think that, you know, this becomes a format and maybe there's other derivatives that really kind of accomplish what you want within a relatively [music] sane period of time. So it's not a question of well this is only going to take 8 hours today, right? Like like the like the versus formats like your heads up your your the one that Carl was doing, the one that I was doing back in the day, your direct heads up competition where you have two machines now. Now that's very exciting. It's very exciting to broadcast, but it induces a whole lot of volatility and things that can go wrong. So, I understand why that is that is the thing. I wish it was cuz like that would be the EVO of Pinball. That would be pinball evo like Street Fighter style if you could have versus. And then, okay, now you switch the other side and now for game three, we switch over here and you know it's oh, it's a time trial. It's 2 minutes. You know, it's 2 minutes. There's no way it's not 2 minutes cuz we said it's 2 minutes. Go get the score. Yeah, that's another one that that works well. Yeah, pin golf versus amazing race. Those three are great. Uh, you know, pin golf is is least volatile, right? We can tell now cuz right now, yes, if you're watching us, we are waiting for a delay. We're in a rain delay. Yes. Because we have we're fixing the game that we were currently on, which is wild card. I'm I'm sorry for breaking. Roger Sharp just was halfway done with his target in one ball. Okay. he was rolling and the game decided nah, we can't have that and said we have to break down. So that is the delay we are in right now. So but yes, that is that is definitely what I appreciate about about this format. The fact that it's not going to take all day cuz it can. It just can. And it's and the factor on that is the scores. You can set the scores down to where it's like, okay, don't screw up. there different there are different pin golf formats where it's like okay the target score on thros might not have been 2 million it might have been 500,000 so that's just don't screw up but also that means you better get an ace or you're in trouble right so that that's another way to do it now that tournament is probably going to take it's going to take less time it will take way less time not probably it will but well you you make it right for TV look baseball learned a lesson Mhm. Yeah, we're doing our clock. I mean, basketball, football, look at all the major sports. All have some time constraint. Yep. This is what we want to do so that we don't lose our audience. Either people that are actually in the stands or maybe people who are watching at home and and it goes for all the sports whether it's tennis, golf, or anything else. All have what I think of as being somewhat of a finite duration. versus this for pinball in general has always been much more open-ended, right? And you know, even going back to the days of the first Papos, oh wow, there's six people waiting to see where the champion is because it's 3:00 in the morning, right? Not a problem, right? And everyone else is taking their flights home, you know, Sunday and it's and it's purely like king of the arcade styles. Like if you lost, you leave the arcade and the only ones that are left are those who are owners of the arcade still. You got defeated, you're out of the arcade. you know, [laughter] so it's like there's some drama. Here's your trophy. All right, get out of here. There's some drama there you can build. But it's like definitely during uh during the last uh was it cir like circuit finals did that sometimes. So it's nice to see as the players get whittleled down. Everyone else is out of the area. There's only the two left that are facing. This is the battle for the championship and it's literally the two of them and 40 games. This is our kingdom. Look, here's our kingdom. Which one shall we play? What was it? Pinburg or whatever else the one that Zachary won. Mhm. The stands, everybody on the Das playing and the stands were filled. I mean, it was it was great. I mean, yes, it was wonderful that Zachary won. The part that I really enjoyed and I know that Steve was with me was alive then was just looking and saying, "That's what we always dreamed of. Look at that. I mean, look how deep it is." And there were the cameras and the screens to be able to see stuff. But it was like fantastic because the people who were up there were getting there just to Yep. as opposed to kind of just dancing in the dark. Yeah. No, it's it's cool. At in Indis last week, they had a huge screen. They had all these chairs and when someone made a good save, you're you get an O from the crowd. Like it's live sport and like that's something you never get to hear at like your local arcade or whatever. Yeah. It's super super cool. Especially nowadays with the moves that people were pulling on. even last night. I mean, I'm at home watching the screen and I'm just like dying. I'm like, oo, look at that. It's like, how is Zer correct in the super decisions every time? Every single time he's right. How? I was like, I got to see that. Clip it. Save it. I need to investigate this. I need to study the film. How did he do it? I was like, I'll never be able to do it. I just want to see it cuz that was amazing. No, the precision is incredible. And I kind of joke before, I mean, so many of the games I just don't know the rules. So for me, I'm just playing the geometry, which is what I do anyway. But to really watch people who have investigated and kind of tore it all apart and know what to do and can get from point A to point B, it is an art form. So to support your point about, you know, sometimes sometimes it is better not to know the rules. I can tell you right now, like a little beginner's luck in this, my favorite game was Hot Shot 89. I didn't even play. I had never played it before and I was like, "What is this crazy game?" Cuz I was on a bus to ticket so I didn't care. So, I'm playing everything. It's like in case I qualify, I want to at least play everything. What is hot shots? And I go off and I'm like, "Man, this is weird. Weird and wacky. What is this?" And I'm just flinging around shooting it. Oh, jackpot light. Take it. Okay. Complete targets. Collect this. I don't know. Like, what does that say? Does that say double? I don't know. What does that say? What does freeze mean? What does all that leave with 18 million? Double one score at that time. Right. But then I and I started learning it. I'm like, "Oh, this is Diamond Lady Go to the circus." And then once I've learned that, I couldn't get over 5 million. Oh, I should shoot this and I need to shoot this to light lock and I need to shoot this like that to light lock. Couldn't get over 5 million. I was like, can can someone wipe my brain before so I could not know and just fling at stuff and all just use defense and work. So I'm like, yeah, someone like someone took Diamond Lady when it must have been two teams back in the day and one team had Diamond Lady and then another team was like, "Oh, guess what we're going to do? [laughter] We're going to take Diamond Lady and we're going to do some strange things and we're going to do a better game." I like that game better than Diamond Lady. That was it was more fun. It was a more fun game, but it was better to not know for me anyway. Ignorance is bliss. And like I think you can find yourself in these situations where you look up and you win a game that you've never played before in a match play and you're like, man, why can't I just play like this all the time? And it's because you're not fixating on every shot that you're shooting. Cuz when you need a shot is when you start to miss a shot. When you're just shooting it and you're hitting stuff, you know, it's because you're relaxed. And I I think that's if you can trick your brain into being relaxed. What was my warm up on demo man? I know, right? Right. We're hitting all of us. were hitting everything. That's crazy. Me, I'm hitting everything with triggers. What am I doing? You know, and I'm like, okay, cool. I would have sing. I was like, is it really doing triggers? Yeah, cuz I was going to cuz I I like to do triggers during single ball and then multiball go to the here because you don't get the trigger ball. I just do the switch after it goes into the computer. It will register that. Yeah. And so I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do that. Okay, cool. I'm going to do triggers for regular and I get multiball switch and we good. And then I miss the computer. You miss shot one, you're all over the place. and and that was it. Yeah. But again, I mean, it's it's a question of playing for meaning as opposed to just playing just to kind of air it out. Yeah. And for me, I I've never really been a good competitive player because for me, it's always been me and the game and whatever I can bring to it as opposed to, okay, this is what I have to do to to beat somebody. So, here it it's like that. I mean, let's play and do really really good. if it's league or something else and I'm playing against somebody to your point, I become much more fixated on, okay, I got to make sure that I make that ramp at that point in time before I hit that target and do this until I until I do this because I got to get the the tree really kind of lined up because I want to have some kind of a mode going before I go over. I mean, yeah, you you wind up having your brain exploded, at least for me, right? Because what I'm trying to do is just play the geometry of the game. I'm hoping that whatever my shots are doing in terms of the entry and the exit will bring me to a point of where I should be. Yeah. Because the designers and the programmers have said, "Okay, they're going to make this. It's going to come here. I'm going to make sure that there's stuff over here." As opposed to the contrary part of it. Yeah. And typically now most of it is all contrary because you're really playing to the skilled player. Yeah. And you know already that it's going to be single ball multiball because it's going to be 12 balls here in Cradle. Yep. It's like okay fine. You know this this is fun or it's going to be you know I'm going to pass over. We are going to advance to the next hole and then come back to it. Yep. We're going to advance to the next hole. What is the next hole? Do we know? Um I don't want to touch the I don't want to touch the command center. Uh yeah, we will be back on this hole. We are waiting for a coil. Yeah, I better be able to finish. The first question I asked is he going to keep his like Yeah, he's going to keep it. He's going to keep it. I mean, unfortunately, he might not keep the seven cards cuz that's a state champ. Well, I already told him. Sorry. That's what we used to do. Steve and I used to physically go into the games. We take down the score. I I mean Josh's eyes used to roll and I used to tell him and that's all right. So what was the state of it? All right. This was lit. All right. Let's press that 12 times. That's lit. [laughter] Okay. This and we would go and we're good. Now subtract the score. That's up there. Fine. Right. Cool. Okay. So, we got more points, but we can subtract and then we'll add. So, we're back to where we should be. You have one more shot for multiball. Okay. Good. Nowadays, sounds like a great system. Nowadays, it's like no freaking way. Yeah. There's a lot more like, yeah, you're screwed. Like that. That's kind of the the which is like fair. Pinball isn't always fair. That that's that's the thing. Yeah. Where are you guys going? Let's see. It looks like soul. All right. So, city of Atlantis. Peter Perry's greatest game. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The only one he ever did. [laughter] There we go. Thanks, Roger. Oh, man. I enjoyed that very much. That was fun. I think I'm ready for Atlantis now. Let's do it. Let's play. Let's do it. Good luck, guys. All right. So, yeah, I'm sure it was creating like a bottleneck. Uh, yeah, I'm just going to take Steve's score away for now. Okay. And, uh, we don't know. I mean, maybe that game gets thrown out. Yeah, Mike didn't even get to play. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. So, they're going to go on to Atlantis. I guess this is a good format to like throw games out because it's the same scoring. It's still stroke. So, it's theoretically as long as you're setting up another game with fair target score, then it's pretty replaceable. True. I heard on multiple times uh one of the texts was like, "I got it." And I was like, "Oh, they're going to fix it. We're going to be good." But some of those older games are just tough. Never listen to the text. [laughter] So yeah, this one uh this one I just kept going up top or up the middle. Yeah, just uh I did start multiball but never really did anything with it. Yeah, it's 1.2 and I got to go play Starship. All right, good luck. Yeah, so this game is your your ones like your first slot, two second, threes, third. Um, your upper saucer will bring up the little post in the middle. Um, and I think the drops will give you awards and also bring up the post. Um, I've seen people rip that spinner, [music] but it's like it's on a timer and it's maybe a,000 a spin, 10,000 a spin. So, um, I do think the up top all day strat isn't a bad one. Uh yeah, what what a what a pleasure it was to talk with Roger. It's truly uh you know just a legend of the game. Yeah, the harvest fives. Yeah, this was at uh I I didn't get to make it. This was at a kind of New York City's biggest tournament. uh like a pump and dump in uh the upper west side in Manhattan. Shout out Jeff for operating those games. Jeff and so yeah, this this is a tough score. It's something you could probably get some points around the playfield to get a million, but um I feel like ball one you maybe just go for those those standups. It's single player only. So, and he got you got a jackpot. I'm assuming this is practice. I always get scared when someone blows it up in practice. Yeah, he's he's nudging it. Yeah, they'll go back to wild card after fist. That makes sense. Um, that's how bow and arrow was at uh in disk. Was down for like a few hours, but all right. Jackpot is one. So yeah, it looks like a jackpot's a guaranteed score at 1.5. No clue how to get it. I'm going to be honest. I don't know this game extremely well. Yeah, that spinner does rip. Gives you a little up and down action, too. Makes it soft spinning. Yeah, you want you probably want to be practicing that shot. Let's go up top. Oo, that's a nice feed. Um, the spinner shot, the ramp. See if it post transfers. Well, that's a nice ski pass. Looks like there's a little bit of flipper hop on that left flipper. You can you can chop away with that spinner. Tilt seems pretty liberal. Yeah, this game does look gross. Emac. Um, I hate this era of the valleys. Looks a little uh sketchy in the outlanes. They they do have those posts still in, but like if you look especially on that on that right side, the post is like in the wood. Uh, so it's not really doing much there. Uh, might even bounce it into the the edge of the sling and back out. But I do think making that did they disable the center post. I did not see that go up when he put it in the scope. I remember right. Yeah. Center post disabled. Yeah, duh. That makes sense. That would be pretty broken. I still do think even with the center post disabled, getting that that hole is useful. Um Oh, I I think you are because you're the only one that finished their game. Okay. Yeah. on the previous. Yeah. Uh you were first. You were two. Yeah, that Yeah, it's a good question actually. So Steve got two on bad girls. So that's going to carry over here. So that and that jackpot is set at one and a half for everyone. Oh, there's a big note card on the back bus. I never look at these. No spotting multiball advance on left loop. Got it. Okay, let's see what Steve can do here. And that center bank of drops is on a timer. So when you knock down one of those targets, it uh I'm pretty sure they will come back up if you don't complete them in time. Spinner lip. It's going to take it early. That sucks. The good news is he can get right back into it. He now knows that spinner shot's late. Let's see if he can recover. Misses the scoop. Good save. No danger save, too. All right. This This still looks pretty uh movable. Yeah, right. If your if your if your target was 2 million uh and and the national one is is lower. Oh, I'm hearing rumblings that wild card has been fixed. Man, that [***] dude, this game looks brutal. I will say though that this game set up very hard, like all these games are. So, as you're seeing now, you know, Steve's one of the best players in the world and has just gotten no love from Atlantis Ski. Nice. Is this spinner lit? And he finds it this time. Nice shot into the hole again. Spinner is lit again. Is this the Is this the wave? I mean getting like a 100ishk every time he does that little combo. Nice bounce. It's all right. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, there were a lot of no-shows. There were a couple yesterday that uh moved around the seating early again on that spinner from Steve and that was unlit. These abs do something. They I think they're advancing maybe the rewards up top. So, how much that scoop is worth? Maybe see. Yep. Okay. So, now it's worth 10k. So, yeah, the up tople day struck does seem viable. Gets his first lock. Okay. All three. Nice. Another Oh, 100,000. Holy snikes. Okay. Yeah, that's big. That's big. Okay. Okay, so those ABS. Yeah, I think that's the move on this. Another 100k bounce lights is next lock. Bounce. Nice. Another chance at the 100k scoop or an AB to advance it. Go for the scoop. Yep. Get in there. Yep. Bump over. Spinner. Scoop again. Okay. That's probably 150. No. Yeah. 150. So, it looks like goes up each time. Okay. Right loop. Yep. Stingy though. Yeah. Get in. Oh, lipped out there. Good nudge. Yeah, was exactly what he needed to do to save that. He's got some bonus here, too. It looks like in the sharks, the circles. Yo, what's up? How's it going? Yeah. Sorry, Matthew. Uh, Matthew Richardson popping in. How's it going? Good. Steve just needs like one saucer. Yeah, I think he's got it in bonus, but I don't want to be quoted on that. Oh, no. He's walking away. Come on. Yes. Yep. Oh, lovely. Oh, that is how you do it. Ball three. Two and ball three. Thanks. Right. I think Steve just had a heart attack on the side of the game. How's your uh day of uh engulfing? I'm plus three right now, I think. Plus three. So is par four. I That's what I heard. Par is four. I was looking at the sharks and the mouths. I was like, I think he has it, but I don't know. I'm just glad he didn't tell. Definitely a game I should have. It looks like an up top all day game. Yeah, it's basically it's whole transfer um spinner for 10,000 spin. Build the hold up to 100,000, which is where I was. I was like, please go to 100 and then just keep doing that. And if you're ever I mean, do you need the post pass? Maybe doable. It is, but like Oh, you played this yesterday. I played it a lot. But you can shoot the center and get a a number spotted anyway. You can spot the number with the center shot. So, that's why we're shooting that. Yeah. I'm not going to have any numbers. I want the center shot. Steve, it's um par is four, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, I'm plus three right now. So, yes. I I someone said in the chat that uh last year the cutoff was 82 over two days. Okay. Which is also helpful. Yeah, we just played Genesis. How'd that go? That was pretty rough. I got a nice eight. Yeah, that I think everyone in this group Oh, no. Uh Mike got like a three or four, but everyone Roger and Steve. Yeah, Mike killed it. Yeah, Mike had he had his 8x. He was able to start. This was Genesis. Yeah, that's Genesis. That's the roughest one. All right. So, this is where I just practice. I had a nice uh two on demo, man. I was like, "All right, I feel good now." And then I just completely wash it away with this game of Genesis, but it sucks. It's wild cuz it's like if you don't get that multiball in your multiball doesn't go up enough, but then if you get enough parts, you there's a point where like 6x single ball where it's like okay. Yeah. Where you're not scoring literally like a nickel on a nickel. Go to the pops. Yeah. Really? like it's not bad points in the box. Um, have you played the Harlem Bad Girls part of the That is next for us. Dude, that's that's going to be your happy place. I think those are two of the most whole and oneable games uh in the bank. I'm uh I'm excited for some Harlem action. Maybe I'll have another Wicked Shimmy. Yeah, Wicked Shimmy. That's not going to be on stream. So, did it ever happen? Yeah, true. Probably not. Wait, was that on stream? Someone clip it against Oh, yeah. Yeah. Someone also put my uh 67 during the Oh man, I don't know if we can figure out. I said it chat might not be able to see that. You can't see it, but in the booth and maybe band and bush with I might I might voluntarily go to senior division after [laughter] see how uh All right, this will play Genesis. God, Gorgar is so loud. I know. Yeah. So overpowering this constant heartbeat. I'm like, am I nervous? just like what am I hearing right now? What's going on? Does Roger know he can turn off the game? He's just a respectful guy. He's not going to do anything. I'm not Yeah, if I if I don't have to turn off I think that's what broke tag team yesterday. Jason restarted and the the display stopped working. He was like, "Oh man, if I don't have just hit the start button." Does it work on this era? Yeah. Oh, but I'm like, yeah. Oh, is this his actual game? Did he not? It might. It might be. And maybe he started more than one and then he's taking the first know what's going on here. Yeah. Oh, that's in orbit as well. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Interesting. So, you can just go you can just shoot that on on original code. You're able to uh shoot that for your first multiball. Every shot spots you a target instead of that little uh little thing. And instead of just shooting this, you can shoot this and that and that and that and that. And hopefully it goes in here. and then just go that and then clear that. Um they made they made it less fun code. You can still just kind of like this and then if you get lucky that and then Yeah, Steve was doing a nice like here bump over shoot spinner. Yeah, that's that if you can get in that rhythm too, that's pretty good. The the ski was pretty good from there to there. The these these rubber that's the other good thing about them. Uh they just make the bump over so much easier. Yeah, this this felt like a pretty like friendly game. Yeah, I think I think he might have practiced players. Yeah. All right. So, he doesn't have a lot going for him, but Ste. Oh, that rubber seems so useless over there. Yeah, that's nothing over there. I know it's Yeah, I know it's there, but it's not really representing at all. Yeah, the left at least it's doing something. The left the left was pretty friendly. Yeah, I will say they did tighten this up between yesterday and today. Oh, tilt wise. Yeah, it was definitely a little uh a little less forgiving on the bounces or on the nudges. Rusher is in his own world. He is. He's just he's I mean, he talked about he's doing it for the love of the game here. Um he's here for fun. Yes. 3:45. Okay. Get in that hole. I mean, come on. No hole. So meanari all day. Feel like Matahari might be uh coming in if they can't get wild card up. True. I will say this half of the course goes is going quick. Yeah. Uh I found probably starship troopers were probably like the most like difficult. It's like it's 80 million. Yeah. Right. That's that's like just out of of a of one multiball. When you get like an orbit multiball and you can really start 5 million out of there, the left orbit or if you shoot the right orbit, it it comes like all because of the mini flipper. Yeah. So it can bounce out of the left outlet. Yeah. But isn't the strategy if you're in orbit multiball, just shoot the left orbit all day anyway. Yeah. I've never played the game before. I've Yeah. I I played my first game of it yesterday and I I found it easy, which tells me it's going to kick my ass. Yeah. Don't let the game happen. Don't let the game hear you say that. I hear nothing. I know, right? Yeah. Keep my mouth shut. The whole three break. It's It's on It's on leave right now. It's got some PTO that it's just cashed in. It's break. The green screw is out there right now. Yeah. Right. They're raking the sand traps. Dante uh had some really bad shakes yesterday and just tore the course out. Yep. Yeah. While Jason was blowing up Aball, I was just sweeping the legs of all these machines. Yeah. I walked in. I was like, "I wonder what wild card score is." And I was really excited to see it was double the score that I got in Nationals yesterday. [laughter] Yeah. I was like, "Oh, okay. All right." Like, "Who who ruined that for everyone else?" Like a big wild card score cuz I've been I've been taking credit for the the X-Men being 200 million, but you know, that's going to be rough. huge. Are we are we live right now? This is practice. He he he did not practice yet. I don't think this might be cuz on player one is practice and play and practice and play. So, but I feel like we're live. It might be live. I actually don't mind just taking that loop. Yeah, it's not Yeah, it's a wide open. I mean, big shot. If you don't want to if you don't want to make any progress toward the last take that loop once I've built the hole up a little bit cuz that's when the spinner becomes you know that shot's less about the spinner more about the hole cuz it looks like when you get that side shot it goes in every time this is eating this right is this the meta this might be the meta but you got to you got to make that shot on the fly which can be scary it's but it's wide open it is it is it's like probably like two and it's probably two and a half pinballs wide that's a good measurement for it as a pinball Small flies. Yeah, I had a powerful in lane there. That was that was super powerful in lane. Good. Oh, nice. Nice dig. Good tip over. Another good read. Back up top. Oh, betrayed us. It didn't land in there time. You're still getting points in the pops. It's okay. Pop points twice. I I Man, pop strap might be viable, dude. It's points. You got to take the wins. [laughter] You take away your point matters. We're going to ignore that the pop bumpers just did this to him. Every point, man. This is very telling about your pin master's day that you're talking about pop points. Oh yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. He's under control. Got he's found his groove now. He's found his roof now. All right, my bad. Yeah, truly on the fly is a little weird. Yeah, on the fly is on the Okay, back back to the pop over. Back to the back to the bump over with you. Yeah, it was a fun little vacation. Does the right end in lane also like the spinner? Yeah. Okay, so it's either in lane. It's the It's the bump over. I'm going to forget all of this information tomorrow when I when I play this tomorrow. Well, is is back n I have no idea. Oh, I just realized that. I thought I thought the afternoon was back nine, but I has their own thing. Got it. I got it. I'm a rookie over here. Oh, a little late. Uh, up in us. Oh, nice little combo. Yeah. What do we got here? Sick. Go in. I'm surprised he he doesn't go through the AB once. I know. It's crazy. There's an A. I spoke it into existence. Smoke it into it existence. Ow. I might need you to just tell me I'm not going to get a hole in one before every hole. And so you just jinx it into existence. You are everyone. [laughter] Oh man. 1 to 089 is uh six. I wouldn't be upset with that. All right. But again, it's all about if you can get into that hole on the plunge, you might ace it. You might cuz it's like pop over spinner for like 75,000. It sounded like just land in a hole for another 50, another spinner for 75,000. Like 50,000. It's It's there. And I mean, if you I think the first award on these drops is light inlanes. So you can Yeah, those drops are timed, right? You got to have Yeah, but typically uh center post comes up, but they disabled that on this. Yeah, that makes sense. If I saw the center post enabled at nationals, I might have picked this game. I somehow played it every round. That's insane to me. The only I played Demo Man every round. That's That's the one game I played every game, see how it's going in the player cam now. Got stuff going on. Yeah, there's lights flashing. There's an ugly bat class. All right, so what is the next game? Is that Starship Troopers with the 80? Oh, man. Yeah. Star Troopers. Yo, man. Uh, Transformers. I hate Transformers. Grinding 30 million, man. All right. I mean, from what I saw yesterday, it looked like hitting Optimus worked. Like, you can hit it and it counted. No, not all the time. What's What's the right genuinely took six or seven shots at it and it didn't? So, it's still Decepticon. Or because you got to get Autobots so you can get mud flap the kids multiball, right? Yeah. I I did that. I spent my I spent my entire first ball just shooting the right orbit trying to get it to land on it and I just trained and I was like, "All right, maybe I should just play for like modes and other stuff, but I got a four on it." So, I was like, you know, that's cool. I'll take that 30 mill on a 30 million grind. Like real realistically, if you're finishing your, you know, your scores without, you know, like you're getting the target score before the end of your five balls, like you're on pace to do decent for the day. That's true. That's that's kind of the way I look at this. And the more the more bogeies you have, the more ones, twos, and threes you need, right? Yeah. Cuz I think the math is like plus 10 usually make finals and then like minus five for a buy. Yeah, I think that's how the math mapped out. That's what Neil told me. I don't even know what is minus minus anything. I don't know, man. Just hole out, bro. Just hole out. Just shoot the shots. Hit your pop bumpers. Pop bumper strat. There's one. There's a pop bumper at least on every game here, man. I'm going to do it on Harlem. You heard? Yep. All right. Some bugs and stuff. You guys got it. Yeah. Have fun by yourself down there. Yep. Back to my Too much fun. Yeah. 30 million Zmac. Oh, you're going to be like, "That's not a lot of points." Yeah. I don't know. It looked pretty good. Um I think uh Dalton was picking it every round yesterday. I can't remember the last time I've played a Transformers. So, Class of Genesis, it's kind of it's it's good bad like it's not it's not offensive, but it's it's pretty funny. I was always there. Oh, we're waiting. Oh, there's We're We're in the sand trap here. behind another group. Yeah, this does seem Starship seems probably like the longest playing game in this night. Starship or Transformers for sure. Like they're back to back on each other. Yeah. And then after that it's Black Knight. Black Knight 30 million. That was the first game you watched here. Um, it was like like Roger locked two balls and like started a mode and I think he finished with like a Let's see what he finished with. Yeah, he finished with a five. It seems so easy, but it's just you need like two modes, right? It took me a mode, a war, a 3 million award. Um, and then a second mode. You're just in the You're in the muck and the mer just scrging around. Yeah, it was like I accidentally got two locks and I was like maybe I should just get this third lock, you know. Then I looked up my 31 million. I was like, "Oh, okay, cool. It's fine. I wish Indy didn't go down. Indian pin masses were I mean 30. Oh my goodness. If if Indie didn't go down, you know, who who's knows what would have happened? All right, I'm up. All right, good luck. Yeah, get in there. Get in there, Connor. I've been here since the morning. It's going good. We're following the Roger and Steve's group. So nice. Did you uh Are you 3 p.m. G10? I am. Yeah, they were my ride, so I was like, "All right, I guess I'll be here." I did a little work. Um yeah, so wild card went down. Was having a flipper issue, but besides that, it's been it's been good. Okay. Oh, this is the other group. Okay. So, uh, I think the the target score for this game is 80 million. Um, I played my first game ever on it and it it plays good. I you can nudge it. Um, the feeds are pretty solid. The only bad feed is that that right loop has a has a post like right here when it comes around that'll just shoot it there. Oh, sorry. Sorry. So, what have you been seeing people going for on this? Just shooting uh for that multiball. Yeah, I think that's a good strategy. Um, and then the orbits. He had a little over a million. I think he got a six. He had a six. Well, I've uh I've seen a little bit of this out of the scoop into the bottom of this thing. Yeah, that was uh interesting to see. You can get a bad feed out of the scoop. Um I just always bounce it, but I know I've seen some people try to drop catch it with the baby flipper. I was doing that. It was working. It It works. I I don't know. I I rarely use that flipper. Um, but Adam McKitty in our round yesterday was was trying to finesse it. So, yeah, you can try to use it to get some control and uh slow down the feed to the bigger flipper. Yep. Yeah, this is a nice multiple. It's not a lot of points, but you can add some balls. Put three on the left flipper. Just shoot the left orbit all day. The magnet just grabs it. Yeah, I think this the pink rubbers actually make this game more playable. So, you just get a lot of control. Oh, wait. The magnets's the same, but I was wrong. Yeah, it it works on the plunge, but not on in this multiv. So, there's two magnets up there. There's one right here, and then there's one right there for this little hole. Oh, yep. Just needs one more shot here. Should have it. Um, I'm not going to say he hasn't bonus cuz bonus isn't really worth much in this game. I see. Just kind of incidental pointing out bumper out. Oh no. Yeah, there's no zero gra. Yeah, game. Yep. Right here. That was an interesting way to deal with it. He held up the right flipper. Where has his new multiball? He has three planets. Holy snikes. Antillies. Three. Got it. Yeah. All right. Thank you. All right. So, four. Yeah. 400,000 of those. Oh, we could see uh streamer extraordinaire Tom play. So, big ball five. Yeah, believe it or not, Tom plays pinball. He doesn't only stream. True. very very thankful for Tom and uh all the uh the very long man hours that he puts in just for us to be able to watch pinball in the comfort of our homes. Yeah. First to higher and the last to leave. Always. Like the the tilt see like just I was saying the tilt on this game is weird cuz you can like make a move but like it kind of doesn't you know like you can get away with it but then like it'll just randomly like phantom uh phantom give you uh warnings. Is he just going to go for the nuke? Yeah. You got to take it. I tried to do the the mini flipper thing all five. Oh, almost got the last. I found that uh or I saw that two planets nuked is all like the bump from one planet nuke is like a huge jump cuz your super nuke goes from like 5 million to 25 or something like that. That's how I blew it up yesterday. Yeah, like that feed you see there, it just you bounce over to the left from the the scoop and it just it won't stay on the left. It's like you got to do something quick. Um, what's up Chad? How's it going? Sorry Chad or uh the uh Oh yeah, the chat's on like the other side of the screen, three screens away from me, so like it's kind of hard to see. This is 1 million. Yeah, I like I like holding up the Yeah, see it. It's not consistent, though. It's going to hit that baby flipper, but not in the same place every time. Five. Yeah. Trey got to make or break here. He's got his nuke. Nuke it. Rip it. Rams. Rip it. Oh, okay. Rambo. These ramps feel good. You can backhand both of them, too. Yeah. Get some intel here, Steve. Holy sh might be the goat. It might be the goat. He's at like five five ramps and three loops. Let's see how many points he has. Oh, multiball time. Look at that. I mean, he's already up to 72. Two shots. Just ripping shots. That's what Roger was saying earlier. Sometimes you just got to rip shots. Got to pop bumper out. Pop bumper out. Yeah, true. What's funny is I could not hit that left orbit for the life of me when I was playing. It's probably the easier shot, too. I I found the right one harder. Nice. Gets an add he's right there. Need one more. Yeah, I think that should do it. Here we go. Very nice. Trey clutching up for a hole in five on a on a pretty tough target score. It's It's not a gimm game. Yeah, you got you got you got to fight your way through it. Yeah, Trey, you did it. Good job. All right. Well, I'll catch you, boys. See you, man. Good luck. Oh, we got uh Drew Sidolei in the chat. Yeah, he played great yesterday. He uh had a really tough match with Dol rematch up. Oh, I love that. What a shot with the upper flipper back hand from the mini flipper, dude. Nice. Oh my gosh. He might be the goat. Come on, stay alive. Nice bounce, Uh, it's the in lane. Um, what I'll tell you is you can backhand both ramps, too. Yeah, the left one's much easier, though. Back hand. See if you can get one more ramp shot in. Maybe. Yeah. No grace period. Nope. We need to do it now. Yeah. Oh, maybe there is a grace period. Yeah, that was a little that was that was a long zero. It's pinball seconds. Yep. No, just shoot the shoot the ramp. Honestly, so accurate. He does need a lot of points, though. He needs he needs some uh maybe some nuke action here. has orbit slip. Okay. Warp to two, whatever that means. Okay. Double swing. Bang. That helps. 20 seconds. Is this when we ramp out there? Only four more for multiball. I found that shot really didn't kill you that much yesterday. 2x scoring is almost collapsed. Start his ramps though. Nice read. And it's it's tougher to shoot the shots like that's kind of what happened to him when it's coming through the right in lane. It's having to go over that flipper too. So it gets a little action. It's not a clean feed to your flipper. Um the like I was seeing uh Adam yesterday would hold up the mini flipper and ski it to the flipper at the bottom. It was pretty crazy. Looks like he also just secured the seven strokes. Uh he needed over 47 clutch. That's clutch. He can be happy with that. Yeah, his next cut off was 64 million. So he had a little ways to go. All right. So, now we finally get our group. Um, so Mike and Steve doing pretty good. I think Steve, so we we've played six games, so he he is averaging four. Um, which is what you kind of need to do. Uh he had that tough nine on Genesis that really he thought he he was convinced it was going to kick him out of the finals, but there's a lot of pinball left to play even after the first nine. Oh yeah, you can you can take a nine for sure. Uh you could even probably take two nights make it. Yeah. It's like for every nine you get, you probably need a a one or a two to make up for it, but All right. Looks like they're going to get some practice time. Yep. So, the person who had the lowest amount of strokes last game gets to go last. But it play order really doesn't matter. You're playing the course, playing the machine. I mean, you might want to be uh later just so you can watch your opponent playing, figure out the feeds, how everything looks. Yep. And on some games, if the flippers are weak, you might want to be earlier, you know. Yep. All right. Just figuring out that feed and the upper flipper. I shot the uh multiball target a couple times with the upper clipper. return was safe, but I just really don't want to mess with it, honestly. The upper flipper. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I mean, the ball's there on the upper flipper. You can usually drop it down and take the the big flipper shot. Yep. I know it's worth some extra points. I'm not really sure how much. Kind of like the demo man uh claws. I can get something triggering it. Not too significant. Yeah. See if he drops it down. Nope. Oo. Those rubbers on the outlanes are pretty [music] bouncy. It's one of the only games here with outland rubbers, at least on that right side. Um, so that's definitely a luxury in this bank. Upper flipper is the best flipper. Yep. I don't know about that. I uh I used to have a a rafting place in the mountains in North Carolina that had one of these at their snack bar and the only flipper that worked was the baby flipper. Was pretty hilarious. You get really good at this game. Yeah, right. Um, could not really play it at all, but you did shoot the scoop in the multiball. Yeah, that's the feed there that usually happens. You bounce and it bounces over cradle, right? Roger peeling off the tilt. Tilt seems pretty reasonable. Yeah, from what I've uh watched so far, all the games seem to have well, not all of them, but some of them. Most of them. Yeah, there's some tighter tilts. Uh like all the new storms are pretty tight, but not crazy. Demo man. Demo man as it should be. They it they loosened it yesterday actually. So they're they're a lot less uh like one move tilts which is nice. That was a weird power in land from the left orbit. Yeah. You did this last year, right? Uh I did. Yeah, I finished I think 11th. Nice. I love this tournament. Yeah. I didn't win my state, but I came here just to play this because Yeah, it's a fun tournament. A lot of people do. Easy flight from Connecticut. Yep. Yeah. I uh I was going to do it either way cuz I was at states, but Greg Pavarelli told me it's like the hardest tournament and like his favorite tournament. It's so fun. It's a lot of fun. I mean, it's not it's a unique format. You don't usually play something like this. Yeah. So, what's happened with Seth? Is he uh dropped out? It was pretty funny. He couldn't make it for whatever reason, but he was like in the chat during game one. He's like, I'm really going to have to stare at my name here. like all day. Yeah, we've been just playing with three people. Makes it go a little quicker. Yeah, that's nice. Oh, shooting the little saucer on the left. So, what lights that nuke multiball? Um, I think completing a planet, which each planet is standups. Yeah. Yep. And then you have to hit the scoop. Yep. Then there's this there's this this little nuke multiple too which can be pretty big. The super nuke I think grows based on how many planets you've completed. So um Matt was saying you thought the the jump from one to two planets was significant enough that you might want to wait. You get larger jackpots. Yeah. And the super is big. Like I got two supers in my double multiball yesterday and I had like a 100 million ball one. Like it it's it gets kind of crazy. Oh wow. Yeah. But you have to shoot standups. That's the one thing. So yeah, it's dangerous. But you could Is there ball save on this game? Uh a little bit. A little bit. So you should probably get that done. Get that done early. Yeah. And there there are these weird like plastic glassy like standups. So they're not like rubber, which is nice. This game has that great Sega ball save where it'll be flashing but then not actually give you the ball back. Yeah, I like those. It's two more. Yeah. Only three hits is uh pretty good. It's pretty nice. Took a danger from something. 2x. Nice. Is it uh actually random or it's always giving me the same awards here? I might give everyone the same award. I know that's how Demo Man works. Uh it's random but everyone gets the same. Oh man, that's a good way to do it. Yeah. Tough out lane there. He made some progress though. Yeah, I feel like for pin masters I r I I I'll rush uh the middle multiball. See where I am after that before I uh start shooting those standups. Like that feed isn't it's not death, but it's scary. That's a nice thing about pin masters. Sometimes you may want to uh change your strategy depending on the target score which is not uh makes you think a little bit bit differently compared to some other tournaments. Look like he's starting with some orbits. Some bonus. So once you get those top lanes, does that light all three of his locks? Um, I don't think so. I think the top lanes are just bonus X. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what he's doing actually. I've not heard of this strat. What lights that orbit multiball? Uh, going through the in lane. Uh, and shooting enough orbit. So, you spell one. Um, and then I think you shoot it again and then you have it started. Um, but I a kind of a good rule of thumb is if you shoot a ramp, maybe just shoot the orbit cuz you could even ski over uh both inlanes light both orbits. Okay. Yeah. Roger Sharp stepping up here. Yep. Oh yeah, that scoop feed is bad. Yeah. This is the bad feed cuz it does that scary stuff. It's a danger. Psychi test. Oh, ace for Roger. No match. Gosh, what a scam. He had to match the suit and the card. That's Well, you still got 9 mil. Oh, big. I don't know how much you get if you match the the card exactly. Yeah. Hopefully 80 mil. That would be sick. All right, he's picking off some targets here. He's already got his antils. Nice notch. take a second and then a tilt. And and Roger, you only have your sons to blame for these tilts. So, yeah, that seemed like a little bit of an accumulation one. He took that second danger and kind of just still moving around. Yeah, it's a good ball though. Yeah, can't be too mad about that. Just want some consistent points every ball. Steve's got the Nightmare Before Christmas fit on sweatshirt and the pants representing. All right, so he's going to give this a little time. Um, he has one of his planets ready as well. Um, he only needs a couple more shots for his middle multiball. The easiest skill shot of pinball. The magnet just catches it and drops it. He only needs two more yellow targets. Looks like he might have been going for it for the ramp. No. So Lo says getting the psychic test gives you special hopefully also 9 million or Oh my gosh shot it into the sling. Yep. Yeah, this game is right down the middle. Uh it's nine holes in one day. So 18 overall. Yep. Los told me like three times yesterday that this game is fine. I I'll use that as exhibit one and why it's not fine. Oh, it's shooting it into the sling. That's uh something everyone's going to have to deal with, I guess. Is he picking off the standups here? Yeah, he has this this brain eater open. I don't remember what it does. I can tell it is kind of tight on here. Yeah, it gets looking like it. In these Seagas, it's hard to like feel out where the the line is between danger and double danger, too. attack the next [music] planet. Top scoop. So, he could get greedy and shoot that, which I I like that move. So, he got the hurry up, but he has to complete all his standups again to to relight that nuke ball. Yes, that's right. which in pin master. Yeah, I don't know if you want to like it's it is it's kind of even more greedy because it's like you never know how well you could have done in that multiball. But yeah, maybe he feels confident about uh getting through the second one. I feel like he is shooting the best out of the three of them on this shots. Oh, does this give him Oh, this is a multiball mode. Yeah. Oh, this is one where you shoot all the standups. Oh, it's kind of like a cast and catch. It's just strobing between one and 900,000. Just rip shots here. Oh, lassi. The mini flipper on the right does have its own button. Yeah, this is value. Yeah. Uh especially those 900ks. I don't think it's going to get you all the way there, but it's uh helps. It's going to make you feel better about yourself. Yeah, you're going to be playing longer. Okay. God, that that scoop's just shooting it into the sling. That's a problem. Okay, he needs to just Yeah. Get out of this. Nice 5 million out of that. It's not terrible for a mystery. Sure. Yikes. Nice there. gets morbid. Looks like he's a couple shots away from that multi roll. Someone's asking if groups are random. Uh I know last year it was alphabetical. Okay. So this seems random to me. Yeah. Probably has something somewhat to do with which session you pick as well obviously. So, okay. Lo says by alphabetical by first name today and then by points tomorrow. Got it. Wow. 5 million for that. Holy snikes. That's what he got for that whole multiball. 11 more for extra balls. Oh my goodness. Okay, lock one. I think he should kind of orbit out here. Oh, my beach. Oh, no. Is that going to stay lit? His next I have no idea. Can hope. I mean, this bonus isn't going to be bad. Yeah. Was this both Oh, it's only ball two, though. He's in He's in pretty good shape. Yep. Next patch. So disgusting. Oh, that one wasn't too bad. I mean, yeah, the end result wasn't too bad, but getting into the a saucer kick out to the snore warrior. Took a danger. Yeah, that's uh from a little move. I haven't seen anyone going for the main multiball up the center. Well, yeah, I'm a little little curious that why they're not. That's usually what I go for. It's scary, but it's scarier than it looks. Like it it usually returns back to the right flipper. Yeah, especially in a format like this. You get five balls. I mean, hit it once per ball and you're okay. I mean, ideally, you want to hit it more, but I played it twice yesterday. I I found that feet actually really safe. Yeah, it can be dangerous depending on how you hit it. Sure. It's good for you. That one was [music] good. Good. No. Oh, man. Out of there. just dancing around the out. Steve trying to figure out what he's going to go for here. Yeah, he's has the least progress, but it looks like he has his multiball lid. Um, not sure if that's like a ball three thing or what happened, but I would just go for that. Yep, that's definitely the move here. Nice. See if you can nail it here. Little early. Little bit. Yep. Big bug milk. The brain bug. Yeah, that popped up yesterday. It literally scared me. I was like, what am I looking at? I can't think of a bigger mech that just pops up out of Yeah. Yeah. It's huge. Takes up like half the play field. Really is. Nice. All right. This This should set him up. Oh, they're taking it from the upper flipper. This is nuke. So, does that determine the jack base jackpot value? The hurry. Let's see. Find out give a short plunge on this game and the ball just goes straight. I saw that was a possibility and I was like stressing about my plunge. I'm like you just want to just want to make sure it goes around. Yeah. Yikes. It's fine. He has his other multim already. He's going to go for that. Finding the angle little early again. Upper flipper left ramp tail as old as time. All right, Steve. Drop this to the lower flipper. No, he wants an upper flipper. He was there. He just ratt a little bit. He's got the next one. He gets a good feed. I need a multiball to feel something here. This game is killing me. Come on. Get in there. Missing early again. Yeah, that that left post is scary. It's like right out there if you miss it. Oh, wow. Wow. It's a good feed. Gets his first orbit block. Recon level five. Okay. Yeah, all two of those awards were a multiball. Seems to know where those orbits are. Yeah, he's like eight orbits away here from the score. They can just cradle up on the on the left. I think this is a fourball multiball. It's cuz there's two out of balls. Um so your first two orbits are out of balls. Uh yeah, it was like one of those things I was like you kind It's kind of the only thing to do in this multiball, but like you almost want to save one of them for when you train, but there's not much else to go for. Not much else to go. Nice. That works. See if we can nail a left orbit. Yep. So, at what point is he getting to a super here? I don't know if there is a super. I think you just do this all day cuz this game stinks. This is his super. 5 million a shot with three balls on the left. Yeah, this is where he wants to be. Yeah, he's in a great spot here. Yeah. Two more of these. See if a little triangle separation. Just a little Just a little tap. Should throw one of them to the right. Oh, he's trying to Yeah. See if he can get it to fall over. That works. Almost backhanded that loop. It's a bit out of control here, but it's fine. He's got one cradle. All he needs is two more orbits. That fourth one that was he didn't need is out of the picture. Yes, it is me. Conor Malberry in the booth. There we go. Just one more bonus X. You can backhand this loop with a double cradle. Just flick it up, but probably wants to just cradle separate. Yep. And that'll do it. He didn't multiol in style, bro. Yeah, didn't need it. The backhanded loop. Impressive stuff from Steve. Is that ball four, three? Seems like most players so far have gotten to the target in that multiball. At least Scott. Wow, that's a big three for Steve. Steve's uh front half of his part is looking good. Oh yeah. After after a rough uh second and third game, just all twos and threes. I do it all the time, but when you know a player like Steve who's really really good is like, "Yeah, I'm out of the tournament after three games," you should just ignore them cuz they're probably fine. It's funny. It looks like it's set up to give you the pity multiball on ball three. Um, I think it is. Yeah, cuz everyone's guys lit. And again, no one's shooting that thing. Didn't look like a shot. Maybe he shoots it from the upper buffer. Oh, okay. Finally. That's what we like to see. Everyone's early. Yeah, that's a good way to use that upper class. Yes, that's how Yeah, I saw Colin and Adam was using against me. Colin was doing it. The backhanded orbit for the completion. Yeah. All right. He gets normal multiple. This is is the jackpots are worth less. Yeah. Three jacks and then the 15 million after the third jack. Yeah, he has a lot of planets. So, he wants to get these these ramps here. You can back in both ramps, which is good. He's out of it. That's it. That's rough. I think ah yeah, he's done. Maybe back in the scoop. I mean, at this point, it's like, well, it's that and then shoot in orbit. It's backhand ramp, shooting orbit. Yeah, I was just ramp orbit cuz I'm like, I'm not doing lane pass cuz I don't know what it's going to do on that uneven. I have no idea what an in Yeah, that that whole right area is super unpredictable. I don't know. Is it a good right ramp backand on here? Let's go. One. Only a couple more needed. Yeah. It's hard to get it out of that right out lane once it goes Oh, yeah. It's like uh uncanny X-Men. Yeah. Oh, they took the switch. It's so It's so mean because you'll have your save lit, the switches out of there, and you're like, "All right, I'm fine." Then you're like, "Oh, no. I'm fine." Yeah. Yep. Wow. Oh, it's still 200 million. Jeez. [laughter] It's It's a baby game. You just got to play two modes and finish them and you get 200 million. It's that's all it is. Sentinel is pretty easy to get. I actually don't even know if I'll bother with Sentinel and just shoot shots. Is there ball safe a little bit? Probably hit some. The one thing I'll tell you is uh No, it's not enough for It's enough if the plunge doesn't go around and it drains you to save you, but it's not enough to take more than one shot at the minimum. Yeah, but it's like it's like three shots or four shots to open his mouth and then like three shots to the mouth and start multiball. It's pretty and it's like theoretically if you're hitting the cerebro skill shot every time, you're going to get a multiball that way eventually. That game's grown on me a little bit, but I still think it's iffy. Nice back end to get danger. Yeah, it's very tight. I mean, it does seem extremely seemingly tight. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't look that bad in practice and then people be dangerous just from flipping. Nuke 1 million making progress. still got his ball saved. Oh no, come on. Yeah, it's going to it's going to tilt from vibrations. Does he have his pity multiball lid? Doesn't look like it. Yeah. So, what it might do, it might do the Adams family thing where it like spots a hit on it every ball you play. That did put one hit on it. I remember that. Yeah. I I just think that's the quickest way to get a multiball in this game. The orbit one seems better, right? But the only reason I had orbit is I went to level five. Like the only up there is Orbit for this play. It's not going to give you plentu up there like it would on a casual game. Oh yeah, that sucks. Oh, true. A polite thing to do. He still has his nuke. He has two planets. Yeah, I say just go for what you're playing Nuke. Is that 3 million or is that 2 million? Is that might be three, but I know the super is like 15. It's big. Yeah. Looks like we got a hype train going. Yep. 54 seconds. Yeah. Ready. Roger's going to ground Zach and Josh after this. It's over. No pinball for a month. Back when he saved the game, the tilts weren't like that. Yeah, true. Right. Did he save the game for them? Really just to make Starship Troopers. Is that what's going on here? We must take the week with personally responsible for this. All right, let's go. We only need what? Four, three shots. Exactly what he needs here. Huge. And then add You want to add at least one to start and then your ball will probably run out. What? Two more. finally got his control on the left. Yeah, just leave that there. And that ball doesn't move. Okay, back hand. Back hand. Yeah, the back hand's there. Oh, I like that. Up and over. Wasn't there. What a legend. Nice job. Great shot. Well done. He's going to check. Awesome. Yeah. There's nothing better than like a cradle and flip away and multiball when you see you got a score. Super satisfying. All right. So, Roger's multiball is lit. I think you're right. Maybe one hit of progress per ball. Yeah, might be the path for him. Even at 10 million, the super's pretty juicy. He needs 40 million. We could get that Orbit multiball. Yep. Yes. Roger's going to run and gun though. It's a style. Oh, I like that. Okay, that was the friendliest kick out I've seen this game. Go shoot into the sling. That that your second ball. Let's go. That's exactly what he needs. That's it. All day orbits. Let's go. Nice. Here's one on the fly. Got the ball. No. Again, this game, man. Just let the man play pinball. I know, right? This is my braces of three or four balls bouncing around in quick succession. It's just all his passion for the game. You danger? How? Oh my gosh, dude. How? I mean, you know, it's just vibrations. It's not It's not even flipping very hard. That's why when I was playing Orbit Multiple, I'm like, you know, scary. That's scary stuff. And then I have to defend. I'm like, please, I didn't shake it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, game. I'm sorry. You starting with the game little bit. Just a little bit of push. Oh no. Oh man. Now you're making them punch all these balls. Yeah. Hey, you're uh you're looking very green now in your car. I like it. I like the greenness. Like it's more greenness than I've had in any previous run. Yep. Of uh the Masters. It just You just need a Genesis to wake you up. I need well I needed I need to know how to play Genesis better in the in the early game cuz I'm like yeah you got to get a body part and then it just starts like water falling down but my problem is it takes me to like ball three to get multiball started and then I can play it seems like it's been the hardest game for everyone that I've talked to so rough seen Genesis has been rough too for some people yeah it is so rough so they actually made It wasn't like this yesterday. The ramps alternate which one is lit for body part. So the right ramp is being much easier than the left one. Um so it makes it a lot harder to get that first one to you backhand both ramps on this. I was able to definitely back in the left. The right is harder, but it's possible. Come on. Get those Get those jacks. One jack and then one super. We're done. Yep. Oh, get up. There we go. There's the back. Oh, he's there. Stone tail. Get get a super just for the love of the game. Stand up target out. Stand up target. Pop strut. Yeah. Come on. Contact. Anything. Something. Thank you. Oh, he's going to guess guess it right. A [screaming] that first that first call though was beautiful. Like yeah, I know was an ace millions. Nice. Yeah, that was big. Good job, Roger. Woo. now for a nice friendly game of left ramp, right orbit. What is it? Transformers. Oh yucks. I might have to get out of boost for this. [laughter] I refuse. He refuses. Starship and Transformers. Roger just victory lap and I love that. I would love it cuz I'm like look. Yeah, I I own you now. I get to play a little bit. I could have a little bit of fun now, please. [music] So, this definitely seems like one of the harder targets for us. Yeah, like Yeah, the answer is orbit. It's just that I think this and Genesis are the two hardest ones you see. I think I'm going to see like all all your aces are going to like in lane past the orbit survive it and everybody's going like, "Oh, it's safe." Yeah. And then they're going to do that and then orbit all ball one. And that's I'm just not going to try it. I'm just not going to try it. Yeah. It's just It's tough cuz the orbit feed isn't always safe, you know? Right. You want the one that goes in the tops. Oh. Like, is the nuke shot even a straight on shot from the lower right flipper? I don't even know. It looks like it, but then it's like, oh, I didn't even come close to it. It's late. Try defending on bounce. Oh, I deflected it. That counts. Okay. I saw someone shoot it with the uh upper right flipper. Mhm. Oh, there's that straight on shot to the It is there. I saw that and I'm like, you're Cuz that that left post is very scary. Want to avoid it. So, I was trying to use the upper flipper to get it. I couldn't see. I was rattling. Oh, no. Thought I got this. Come on. pull a backhand to it now. Now everything's fine when you're done. Right now every shot is good. Now do you think it's possible to scissor the uh the two flippers on the right? I think so. It's tough though cuz this this is very slow. Possible, but I don't think it's ever going to happen. All right. Transformers. No, we have no Elwin Sterns and no Raya coded sterns here. Wow. What are the sterns we have in this? I know we have uh sort of rage. Yeah, we have X-Men. Yeah, let's pull this up. Show me sort of rage. Yeah. Uh that's it. That's all we got for modern sterns. Nice. Yeah, I'm happy Bond isn't it today? Just sort of rage for the modern stance. Yeah. Oh, sea witch tomorrow. All right. Nineball. Yeah. The NBA Fast Break 80 is pretty rough. It's definitely doable, but And the Deadpool 150. Like I I saw the Deadpool was just killing people yesterday. One. Is there no ball save? No ball save. Deadpool with no ball save can be so evil. Yeah. Seems like it should be fine, but sometimes it's just not good. People said the Stranger Things was nice. You could backhand the left ramp, which is always uh makes you backhand the right ramp though. Imagine that would be sick. Never. My local Stranger Things you can backhand the right ramp. That's crazy. It feels good, too. You're just You're just transferring always to get it uh back. Nice. Yeah, that's nice. Oh, man. This game's got kind of similar ramps a little bit. Nice ramps. How'd you do? Uh through seven holes. I have 35. Okay, we are uh waiting on wild card. So you're you're at a five out. So here's here's the story on wild card right now. It's not fixed in like 15 minutes. I'm just killing the game and killing one of the scores. It's going to be a 17 hole for course. Whoa. Wow. What's wrong with wild card? Uh the flipper bottom right flippers like like happy was crazy. Oh, I like that game. Yeah, I was excited to play it. I didn't get to play it at Indis or yesterday. So, I saw the spinner was uh not too great. Yeah, I mean it was it was kind of juicy. It's like it's all dependent on if you don't hit a pop. I think um on the other side I found the left flipper like if you hit it from the left, it would just kind of like go straight up top. Yeah. Man, I just wish tag team would win this. That's the greatest game ever. We might have a ruling right now. So, uh, what's the deal with this place? I I saw they have a room up front with more pinball or Hey, I don't know. I think that's like I have no idea. Pinball Capital and this is OD. I heard this place is getting a new location at some point. I don't know. Yeah, this is kind of like a garage they've made into the pinball room. Yeah, I saw like a Godzilla Ellie up front there. Yep. Thought I was at the wrong place. Come around the back. Yeah, Kong Whitewood here, which is super Oh, yeah. I don't know if you crazy. I'm hearing bells and chimes. I'm I'm hoping wild card's back in. getting flashbacks to bow and arrow, I didn't Yeah, it's kind of this weird thing where it happened a little under halfway through today, so we want to be able to squeeze everyone in. Um, you kind of need it up and operational, but we have less than an hour until the 3:00 tea time. So, Yeah, the insert is off center. The ball save insert. The whole game The whole game's off center. Yeah, it's like X-Men. But I think the flippers are Well, yeah. Yeah. It's funny cuz like the trough isn't lined up with the middle of the flippers or the middle of the artwork. Yeah. Like this like this is center of the flippers right here. This is just off and then this is just off. Yep. What were they doing at Sega, man? They made Baywatch and they said, "Yeah, whatever they could." They were getting licenses to big deals, I guess. I think Baywatch is one of the only good Sega. So good, dude. It's so good. best. Yo, some respect for South Park. That game's out of here. That game is awesome, dude. That sounds like the opinion of a DPC regular, dude. And got to disregard. So, there was a South Park in there that was new in box owned by us since 1999. Crazy, bro. So awesome. When you hit Kenny and then you hit Kenny again, then you hit Kenny for the third time. Well, yeah. If you do that, obviously you're not going to have fun. God would say South Park is fun. Nonital Italian. Yeah, the left the the stand mode. The stand mode. Alex Kelly in the chat, dude. Maybe it is. No, everyone keeps uh calling him sick. Spooky vision. There's a lot of games that can get Jurassic Park is all right. Actually, that's actually so true into that like monster bash blast like South Park. Awesome powers. No, no, we're Awesome Powers stinks. Awesome powers. Awesome powers is a fun game, man. Godzilla is all right. The laser beam. Oh, yeah. Sink Godzilla is a good one. I like the rules on that game. If if the if the flippers were strong, it's fine, I think. So, wait, you're complaining about shooting Kenny all day? Southbar, but I probably like the ramp all day on Godzilla were cool, dude. It has a little whirly like it's a cool toy. Giant Godzilla kill Kenny, dude. And it has like a left loop that's also a ramp. I'm a sucker for that. Oh, yeah. They in one shot. Oh, Frankenstein magnets up there. Frankenstein may be the worst game ever. The music's good. Fall out in pinball. Yeah, true. Yeah, it's like Baywatch is head and shoulders above all these games though. Oh yeah, the modes are fun. Multiballs. The multiball is just a disgusting amount of points if you like get the super chat. It's just the widebody. Is it a wide body? Yeah. Yeah, I guess. I do like that uh that side ramp. That side ramp's good. Side ramp's good. The shark's like stupid, but like you're good at it. It's a lot of points. It's a cool gimmick. It's cool. All the inspiration. I like that has a shark fin. Yeah, it's an inspiration for Jaws. Inspiration from Jaws. Yep. Apollo 13 is a great meme. Yeah, we have one of those in the city. What' he say? They might have made a wild card announcement. Not sure. So, are we starting at three for group two no matter what? I don't know. I'd hope so. I've been just sitting here. Yeah, our our group looks pretty stacked. I mean, not that it matters, but I think we have Zer in our group. Maybe Zmax shows up. Talk about how it's 67 degrees here in West Chicago. I brought I brought so much like cold clothes and I didn't need a single like I I went from Cal uh SoCal to SF to Chicago and none of the days were cold at all. It's crazy. Yeah, I was I was getting ready for the cold here and then it's 70°. Yeah, I it sounds like cuz in New York when I land it's going to be like 60s and 70s all week. Covered in snow. Oh, not anymore. Not anymore. Yeah, it's crazy. We're I think we're entering like the full spring. It's coming. Yeah, SoCal was great. Indis. It was It was kind of nice. Like you blow up one of your cards at Indis and then you step outside and it's like 80° and sunny and you're like, "All right, maybe life is uh is not too bad after." Oh, yeah. Yeah. Back in Connecticut, I hadn't seen grass for weeks. Yeah. Right. Day before I left is snow. The blizzard. Yeah. No, it almost destroyed New York. Uh I was lucky. My flight was on a Wednesday and then our flight was delayed, me and Alex, like 4 hours. We like get to the the hot springs at like 5 a.m. Thursday morning. Yeah, it was it was rough. How's How's Wild Card looking? Are we Are they fixed? Breaking news. It was like a nine person queue for Wild Card. Okay, it's fixed. Yeah, it's only only 215 though, so it's wild card. So, yeah. Yeah. Imagine snowing Alex. Couldn't be mean. You guys got a lot of snow down near you, too, man. Oh my god. Don't remind me. As a southerner, I can take one snow, bro. Dude, that's that's your second strike, by the way. You can't stop me. Like I said, I I'll start playing in senior's division if I keep doing I'll 67 until my heart gets out. All right. Keep getting 67 strokes today and uh you won't qualify. You don't. Oh man. I guess we're waiting on Transformers. Yeah, this seems like the bottleneck of the uh of the back n versus the front nine. Not sure. Yep. Not really sure why they went from Starship. Yeah, they should have spaced them out a little better. Getting the rig moved over. Oh, it's right next to it. Yeah, easy peasy. No Indy500's a little sad. So brutal, dude. That was my like backup pick for mids yesterday. We lost Indie, Earth Shaker, Judge Dread, and Tag Team. So, we were down four minutes. All right, let's talk Transformers here. What's the What's the strat? People were saying Optimus isn't registering. Um, like it will. You just got to hit it like 30 times. of Yeah, I usually go Decepticons, but you know, you have the mud flap, multiball, go uh God, I don't even What is the opposite of Deception? Very helpful serve. I prefer red and blue. Yep. And then what is the deal? It's like if you get uh enough of the same colored lanes and light shot X's, right? Yeah. So, you have two up here. and then one down here. And then the same goes for the purples as well. So you're going you can get a playfield multiplier which is the the green stuff at the bottom here off of completing the red or the purple and you have a multiball at that like big scoop area. Yeah, there's one right here. You just hit it a lot and then there's one right here you hit it a lot and then this is a multiball by hitting the it'll be red because you picked the autobots. Got it. You can light an add ball here, but I think you have to light it before the multiball. And that's on these blue targets everywhere. I think I don't know. Yeah, this game seems like a a classic five out of 10 st. Yep. It's a some fun shots. Yeah, it's a pimo machine that they made. The the alley is a lot of fun. What's the difference? You get like a little uh playfield up here that you can actually like shake the ball left to right and like get it up to the top. Yeah, like the hot like the higher you get it, the the more points you get. And then over here there's a I think it's a skyscreamer you actually like have to kind of time the ball and there's like a target back here and he like stands there and he moves his legs in one one position gives you a path to hit the target back there for extra points or something like that. Nice. And then uh the bad part is there's a drop target right there. Classic. Yeah, classic. Adding a drop target. The pros definitely uh a better tournament game. Looks like they're still doing work on wild car. I don't think you need the stand up to light locks. I remember watching Dalton play yesterday and he was just like getting locks from shooting the the hole. He's playing Transformers. I think it's playing Transformers. Power. Oh, are they getting their wild card games in? Yeah. Oh, so looks like our group is they switching to wild card. Finishing their wild card. So, run over in the middle of the Yeah. Yeah. But Steve got a five, right? Yeah. So Steve got a five on wild card, so he's able to get through his. Um, so that makes his side of the card look a little less green. Roger had like a This isn't really conducive to Yes. Yeah. Hence the the lights hanging from the ceiling. They literally need a uh a broom to move the rig. Yeah. Um and and uh I think Roger put up like 190k ball one and he had like a lot of progress on his cards. Um he was seven out of eight and that gives you a special which is worth 100k. So okay. That's tough that Roger got a six there. We had a good start. Not not sure if they kept the progress. All right. Hey. Hey everyone. Wow. Look at that last game on Transformers. Someone got 30 million and then two 28s. That is Pin Masters 101 right there. Yes, it is. Holy Nikes. These are some good target scores, though. Yeah, I mean, everything seems pretty reasonable. Uh, I think Starship's definitely the hardest. Yeah, I haven't played any of the games yet, though. They're playing. Um, I don't know if that 400k is going to be hard, but yeah, that is a a higher score. A million on on Well, you get five on eightball deluxe. Yeah, after after watching Zer give me the blueprint yesterday, I feel like that game was easy. Did he just uh hit the the saucer all day at 5x? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Someone in Jab was saying he hit orbits. Okay, got it. Um, yeah. So, like we pretty much started the game the same way. Uh, we got a rack done, got our eightball, got the 5x, and then I was finding Jason was hitting the eightball shot early so that it was never putting it down the middle. But if you hit it late, it'll kind of like rattle and then just go straight down the middle. But for the most part, the bonus X targets and the eightball will not kill you. So going to the orbit all day is just like you could maybe get a million doing that, but like you're just having to survive like 10 plus pops. Yeah, with bonus holding, I mean, I feel like it's not bad just to rip drop targets and then just start shooting a feel like you want to try to shoot it towards that inner wall and a lot of Able Deluxes, it'll pop out to the left nicely for a drop catch. Yeah, that should be should be easy. Joker poker 225. That's the interesting one because uh it's you know you have the different each ball is different in terms of what gets 5x. Um so you could find yourself in a situation where it's ball four and you need kings to give you your 5x. Um and you kind of find yourself in a hole there. The padan 40k is no joke. I I had to play it in my 40k on that hand on my Yeah. in my second round and we both got over 50k but only on five. So yeah, I remember playing that game at Papa and I feel like every time I would light those top rollovers I would Yeah. Yeah. Immediately after. It's such a fun game, but it's uh it is a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean cuz you do the thing where you just keep it up top all day but you're not really making points but it's you get a thousand per roll over. Yeah. when you light them. If they if they're lit once you can't remember how you light them like stand up on the right or something. So there's rollovers in the middle of the playfield. Um Oh yeah. Yeah. So you have to kind of raise those. You got to just hit them. You inevitably have to hit a dangerous shot or two to get like a middle one and the ones on the right. Well, what game? Uh a pad hand. Oh, I have no idea how to play that. Yeah, that's fine. It's fine. I saw people just loop out. You can loop out. It's not going to get you 40k, but let's see. Waiting for Transformers. Yeah. On some warmups. Yeah. Oh, holy slang. Yeah, the slings were super sensitive. I also found it like kind of hard to live catching. [laughter] That's what I was talking about with that. This game is yucky, dude. I never died to it though. So that feed also into the sl. Steve is so funny. Yep. Okay, I need to remind Steve to practice postp passing. Every time he comes over, he's like the post pass is very difficult in this game. Okay. And then Steve doesn't post pass. Well, he's like he he's like, "Yeah, I get in a situation where I want the ball in the flipper, but I didn't practice the post pass." Yeah, you always forget like I'm I feel like I'm a bad practicer. I don't know what I should be doing. Yeah, pass isn't usually a thing I practice. I feel like it's kind of tell. Yeah, start off with a little bit and adjust. Go. Yeah, this game looks pretty evil. If you just try to back down the right some you can. I never seen this game. Yeah, I don't have one of these near me. Never. I only played it like in tournaments a few times. Every time I see inside of an EM, I'm like, nah, I'm good. I'm good. It's literally just witchcraft, bro. I don't know what's going on back there. We have a guy at the Delton ball collector who's like, "Yeah, you just had to replace like, you know, like 37 wires and this and that." I'm like, "I'll stop you right there, bud." Sure, man. How much do I owe you? Yeah, dude. Can backhand everything except the scoop. What? Yeah. I mean, I would love to see that. I would love to see someone from a trap in the right orbit. Yeah, the left orbit's possible. Left over does look possible. Easter one in Bristol, Connecticut. It's a Transformers. I didn't know that. And I guess I got to go play this. You doing Fantastic again this year? Oh, yeah. Always. It's uh can drive there. So, it's pretty easy to get to. There it is. What about you? Hey, I keep winning the free ticket for it in New York. So, I just go How you guys doing? Tournament for free tickets. Yeah, we have like a Valentine's Day tournament. Um that gets a lot of tickets donated. Um got Mark from Backhand Pinball in the chat. Yep. Yeah, Mark. Uh Tom was saying he stole your uh your pin master's template. So big respect big respect for you putting together. Yeah. I got to get some food at some point. Said there's food outside. Yeah, there's Hawaiian food outside. Yeah, I ate. But I could go for a drink. I might have to step out in a few. Yeah, I'm kind of thinking I got it as well. Um, I got a Mediterranean food last night. Buy 1 get one free chicken schwarma bowl. That sounds good. Delicious. We got a what? We got girardanos last night. A deep dish. It's nice. You got it when you're in Chicago. Yeah, it is. It is like a pizza I can have like maybe a couple times a year. It's like it it doesn't feel like you're eating a pizza. Yeah. No, it's like a cheese pie. It's great. It is like a buy. Throw some peppers and onions in there. It's good stuff. I love watching Roger practice. Yep. Shots. The game. I could unironically see him blowing this up just like just hitting shot after shot bling at Daniel. All right, I'm going to go get some food and get some warm-ups in. Good luck to every Yeah, I'm holding up a wild card. Empty booth or Oh, man. Yeah, I'm going to look for someone. All right, Dalton. Rounding up here. Well, uh, I just finished course one. I ended up with a 36. So, could have been better, but I'm all right with it. 36. That's par. Yeah. Balls par. Of all games to get a hole in one on. Take a guess of what hole I got a hole in one on. Black Knight. Nope. You would think, right? No. I was on a course one. We had Oh, course one. Okay. Yeah. We had Sea Witch, X-Men, Patan. Nope. I only had one hole in one. You know what it was? Pat hand. Wow. Pat hand. What's my only hole in one? Wow. You take that though. Uh, we need to change the thing. That is not the pin masters thing. That is the St. Louis area championship. I don't know why that's uh I can put it on the commentator cam if it's over there. just don't know the button. Uh there should be one that says commentary cam somewhere. Oh uh no. Uh h let it be for the time being or main actually be fine. Transformers. Hey. Oh, so y'all following Roger Sharp. Oh, they still got a they still got a whole left. Yeah, they still got game. Oh god. Okay. Transformers. Hey, Transformers. Sneaky underrated game. Uh, Transformers. When you start the game, you kind of want personally I go uh Autobot because the Optimus Prime is easier as well as uh the mud flap and skids multiball on the Autobot side. Decepticon's all right if you like doing Megatron. It like makes Megatron easier and or more valuable. So, roger shark autobot guy. Autobot player. Oh, and he's got hands free. All right. Well, you need to shoot. All right. Oh, no. But the pots is going to change the mode. Oh, you better hope you get Oh, he got mud flap. Mud flap. All right. Well, there's one Megatron lock. That kick out is so scary. Kicks right to sling. Okay. That's actually the good place to put the shot multiplier for Optimus. uh right down the middle. Yeah, these slings are very sensitive and bouncy, especially with no outlane rubbers. You will see a lot of outlanes from the slings. Yep. And you can see there's a lot more people coming in for the 3MT. So, Steve B. All right. And hands-free skill shot. Bumblebee's all right mode, too. Really? Jimmy Street said the only Autobot mode that ain't worth it is Iron Hide, but unfortunately that was a that was an unfortunate drain there. Now there there is a uh super skill shot like a super secret skill shot. It's like if you plunge it there, but the thing is you got to deal with the Megatron kick out. But people want to plunge to the pots just so they can get the the autobot lanes. When you complete the Autobot lanes, you like your shot multipliers. And I think when you complete the Decepticon uh lanes, I believe that's bonus X. I could be wrong. I think that's right. Yeah. I almost said it's been a while since I played this, but I played this yesterday. All right, back in the ratchet. Ripping ratchet shots. What's this? 30 million. I just now seen 30 million is the target on this. Yeah, it's I think it's the toughest on the of the course on this side. 80 million on Starship Troopers. That is also brutal. And they're back to back, too. So, and 200 mil on X-Men is crazy. Yeah. Roger Sharp back at it again. Someone's having fun on X File. Sounds like We have the Oh, I thought that went in there. Yeah, those all are hungry. Yeah. What do you think about bringing a towel, Dan? Uh, bringing what? I'm sorry. A towel? Bringing a towel? Oh, the Yeah, towel to wipe your hands off. Yeah, for sure. Oh, I see Zach McCarthy's here. Zach McCarthy showed up. Got out of school. Escape somehow. Escape. All right. He's on iron hide, which you don't want to see. He's going to bring it back up to the tops to change that. Mud flap. Ah, ratchet ain't bad either. Ratchet's pretty good. Now, that left ramp is backhandable. There it is. Now, I need one more. Whoa. And it may not look like it, but the right ramp is backhandable as well. Oh, Andy's about to yell at people. No one cares, Andy. Just kidding. We love you, Andy. All right, one lock for Megatron. Oh, good move. Uh-oh. And it's going the back way. But I think that counts for a lot, too. No, it does not. Oh, that's brutal. He's got a control though. But yeah, Ratchet, you want to just shoot orange triangles. but if you're on Autobot, your Optimus Prime multiball is more valuable. Oh, that's too dangerous. There's your second Megatron lock. and good control. All right, for Megatron. Okay, all three one more time. Oh, it about bounced in there for him. All right, looking for the He's got one shot left to Megatron. He's looking for it. He's got a trap. And boom, there it is. Megatron time. But if you choose Autobot while playing Megatron makes Megatron harder. And if you choose Decepticon, it makes Optimus a little bit harder too. But for this Autobot, you got to shoot Megatron and then it briefly lights all the jackpots for a little bit. But you got to shoot Megatron. Got to shoot Megatron. All right, there's Megatron. All right, now all the jackpots are lit briefly. But you only get like about 10 seconds to shoot jackpots and then it you got to shoot Megatron again. Yeah, sometimes it seems like it's very brief. Oh, quick ball there. Oh man, Megatron. All right. Well, that will bring up Mike. free skill shot. We love to see it, but we don't love to see that. That was terrible sling. Jeez. What kind of sling out lane was that? This might be the toughest game of the course. He does have mud flapping skids ready. There's a hands-free skill shot. Oh, and now it's on Iron Hide. Wow. He's a four-way combo. He just combo everything. Wow. Oh, and there's the mud flapping skids multiball. Okay. Now you can use mud flap and skids to build toward your the other main two multiballs, the Optimus and the Megatron. I think mud flap and skids kind of like in terms of rules, it's kind of similar to uh oh, what's that one multiple? I forget. But kind of like coffin on Metallica that you can stack and work toward other ones. Oh, stuck between the slings. Lot of flashing going on. Oh, lot of the flashing. That means the Optimus Optimus ramp is up. Yep. Oh, ball three for me. Megatron's ready. All right. Nice on the fly into Megatron. All right. He's feeling it. Try multiball. He's getting done doing a little dance. All right, Megatron time. All right, there's the Megatron now. Jackpots are lit. Get your jackpots going, Roger. From a forehand, that left ramp is like a split second later than you think. [music] Oh my goodness. What is going on here? Oh, there's two balls left. Okay, we're still in it. We're still in multiball. All right, there's another jackpot. Oh, there goes one. And we're back down. Single ball play. This point I'd probably just start Optimus. Go Optimus. There we go. All right, two more left for Optimus Multiball. Two more to start another mode. And it's going to be probably All right. His next mode will be Ratchet. Look out. Here comes the ball. Heads up. The ball is in play. All right. Do we know how close he is to Octo Prime? Uh, I think he's two hits away. More. He's got shot multipliers. There we go. Now I think he's one. Yep. One more. And he's got a shot multiplier on it. Oh, I was like, where did that go? But it went into the Megatron. Oh, he's so desperately trying to get a mode started. Oh, they all sparked. Oh, he kind of didn't want to use score 4,000 there. So you're out of Oh, nice on the fly. One more and he's got mode ready. All right. Iron Hide. And there's Megatron. Look, look at Roger's kind of getting into the groove there a little bit. Yeah. Oh, nice. All right. Oh, he just he really would like to hit Optimus right now. Looking for it. Oh, he's got double scoring from the bumblebee uh catcher ball. M. Oh, he would have been so set up nicely. And Roger was wiping his hands and disgruntled. up comes Steven Bowm on ball four. Already playing Megatron. I He does not have the Optimus ramp lit. okay, backhand. Why not? All right. He hasn't played mud flap and skids, which is lit right now if he shoots two more starts. Or I think one more. Nice. One more. Yep, there it is. There it is. Mud flapping skids multiball. Okay. Uh, use this multiball. Uh, build up your other multiballs like Megatron or Optimus. Also, send it up top to try to get those uh shot multipliers. Uh, what's going on with the ball watching? Well, okay. I don't know. That auto launcher's been kind of funny this weekend. All right, the Optimus ramp is up. Hunt for the subconscious. And there's another mode start, which I think is Bumblebee. Yes. All right, Bumblebee. Bumblebee is ready. He also has the Optimus ramp ready. Why not just go up the middle? Get Optimus going. Mode shots are all right. We like mode shots. Shoot. Uh, shot multiplier is not ready. Now's the time to put a shot multiplier on that up the middle. You really are. got the best of Steve. Yeah, you do. All right, Mike. Ball four for Mike. Oh, he got the super skill shot. And he got the super screw you, drain. Yeah, Mike just got the super skill shot and it just went. Yeah, right to the slings and we'll be seeing you. Roger. He I think he's got one hit to Optimus. Shoot that please. Big shot. That is your Optimus ball. And since you're an autobot, uh, it's better basically. Roger. Wipe it down with the towel. Look to see what's going on here. Pull up the pants a little bit. Adjust your shirt. Get into the stance. Plunge the ball. Oh, it's stuck. Uh, there it is. That counts. Skill shot. All right. Shot multiplier lit. Oh, a lot of flashing going on up the middle. There we go. Off those prime multiball. Uh, this is a this is the multiball where you shoot a jackpot then shoot that jackpot again type multiball. It's like orb multiball. It's like free will on rush. Oh, that came about power out lane last back. Look how much of a grind this game is. He played two multiballs, three multiballs with one and he's only halfway there. Uh-oh. Blame Timothy Street for making this a high score target. what he put up. His first round I think he was playing Travis Hawkimire. Last I saw he was like 122 mil on ball two. Wow. That is insane. And uh Oh, nice on the fly to the right ramp. Yeah, just why not mow out? Roger. Extra ball is lit. That left orbit's a tight shot. It is, but these are these are multiplied shots if you can get those big hurry up values. Second Megatron lock. All right. Survise. Oh, I thought that was up there. Left orbit. Whoa. There we are. Nice on the fly left ramp. He's got four to six multiplier shots now. Shoot Megatron one more time and you'll have it lit or power out. Power in lane. Some pops. Why not? He's about 5 million almost 5 million away. Uh that that little reject can be mean. All right. How many's he got? Oh, he needs to hit that five more times. Okay. Ball three. One more and you got Megatron. But you guys survived the kick out of doom. All right. Megatron. Double score. Double scoring Megatron. Well, double scoring in this mode. You can also Yeah. And he's man. Dang it. Uh, someone in chat's asking how they choose the pin masters goal scorers. Uh whenever the nationals is played, whenever the national North American championship is played, we write down our scores for uh our game we play and they take all the scores of each of each machine and they like calculate an average basically and the average is usually the goal. So, uh, you blame Timmy for the 122 mil, which made this 30 mil. I don't know what was the highest score on, uh, Starship Troopers. That's what I want to know. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Why is Starship Troopers at 80 million? Oh, the kick out of Doom. Oh, and this is ball five. Uh, Steve, we need to get on the ball here. He's got Optimus ready right up the middle. Uh, okay. There it is. Yes. No. Maybe. So, uh, I don't think it registered. Now it's stuck. Well, I think the boss search might lower and raise that ramp. So, you just got to be on your guard. But this is Iron Hide. Who cares about Iron Hide? Oh, here it comes. Scary. Right into the sling of doom. Oh, here comes the slings of doom. Here comes the slings of doom. Still surviving. Oh my god. The kick out of doom. There we go. All right. Now go up. Okay. Mode mode shot. Why not? It does have the mystery lip. Optimus is right up the middle. Extra ball. There we go. One more for mode start. I don't know what his next mode would be if we started one. I haven't seen him. I haven't seen anybody. Might be Iron Hide. Well, he he was just in Iron Hide. Is there something after you go through your four? I think you got to complete all four to get to the mini wizard mode. Ah, okay. Sentinel crime. Stephen is thinking. Wonder how many shots Optimus he has left. Let's see. I don't think that registered. Nope. Well, that did. That didn't even go around. Okay. Oh, he's an iron head. Okay. And how many? Two more. Okay. Nice on the fly. Didn't get it flush. Nice. Uh, may have. Oh, okay. Mystery. Add more time. A, who cares? All right. The thing is about Optimus, you got to hit that thing. You got to hit him for There we go. Oh, wow. What? more. Hit into the pops. Why not? Shot multiplier. Shot multiplier up the middle for Optimus. And go crazy. Yep. Shot multiplier up the middle, Optimus. Oh. Oh, you're not hard enough. You got to hit him. Flush. Oh, nice save. Oh, that was a bumblebee shot. All right, here we go. Here we go. Oh, it was just a little late. Oh, not quite. Oh my goodness. It must be driving him nuts. He is not heading off to the right. Can I get it? All right. Okay. Here. It's right there. You know where it is. You just got to hit The thing is, you can't hit it hard. You can't hit it soft. There we go. You just got to hit it flush. There we go. Okay. Shot multiplier on Optimus. Let's go crazy. Go crazy. All right. Left ramp. You know where that left ramp is, Steve? Well, oh wow, we'll smell you. That's brutal. Add a ball. Oh, that would have been funny. That was add a ball like right at the buzzer. He's got 5x bonus. Bonus ain't cheap on this game. All right. Well, how many for Megatron he's got? I wonder. Six. That might have been a left orbit shot. Oh, his next mode might be mud flap at skids. Oh, it is. You're right. So, each time you play mud flap at skids, it's a multiball. I haven't I haven't uh played it again after I've already played it. So, we'll find out here. We'll find out. Uhoh. Oh, no. You can hear Steve say go. No. Oh, that's trouble. Nice. All right. Left orbit. You can backhand the right ramp, too. It's hard, but it is there. Oh, that was a left orbit shot. Trouble. Oo. Oh my goodness. He is getting away with a lot of moves here. All right. There's two over there on the right. Steve, you know where they are. Come on, Steve. Oh. All right. Left, man. Just a tad bit early. All right. Come on. Oh, no. No. It did not register or did not count. Okay. Got the on the fly back hand and Oh, it's ratchet cuz the freaking uh I think the spinner also changes the mind too. That's fine. He He doesn't need too much. But yeah, just Hey, that'll count. Yep. Okay, there we go. Combo out, Steve. Steve the combo king. That counts. Big shot. He's got Optimus back up. Remember, he's got 5x bonus, too. So, Oh, yeah. He He's definitely there in that bonus. Just combo. Yeah. He's nodding. He's like, "Yeah." Okay. Yeah. Don't tilt when you're there, Steve. Please do not do anything catastrophically dumb. All right. All right, man. That is some chopping wood, huh? There we go. All right, Steve with a five. Steve with a five. That was a He got that axe out. And thank goodness it didn't break. Chopping. Uh-oh. I see Raymond's here, too. Ray's here. All right, Mike. Mike got a little bit of work to do. He's 20. He's about 24 million behind. All right, Megatron. That's the second Megatron lock. Survived the kick out of Doom. That is so scary. Just kicks right into the sling. Wow. Number three. One more. Nice. Oh, he took one. All right. Well, we're in All right, Megatron. All right, jackpot's lit. Go crazy. Double jackpot. That'll Oh, I thought I could Oh, he got the add a ball even though he's got four balls in play. Oh, that ball came back. That's good. All right, find one in Megatron. Hello, Megatron. There we go. All right, Jackpot's lit. Go crazy. All right, live catch. Okay, nice. Make it work. Megatron. There we go. Now go crazy. Jackpot's lit. There's a certain amount. There's a certain amount you got to hit and then you'll light Megatron for the super jackpot. It's quite a bit though. You got to you got to grind them a little bit. Yeah, it's it's a it's quite a few. All right, there we go. Megatron. There we go. Slide the kick out of Doom. That'll work. Now go crazy. There we go. All right, there we go. All right, we'll kick out of doom right at you. That will unfortunately be a nine. All right, Roger. Four mill away. Don't we have Optimus ready right now or do Oh, it's a second time. I think he's going for his second round. Okay. Oh no, I think he's got one more Megatron lock. Yeah, for a second one. Yeah, he's got one more, I think. Hands free. No, not handsree. All right. Oh, that was a Megatron shot. Oh, he's trying for Megatron. He's trying for Megatron. Megatron. Dang. That's I think that's going to be a six for Roger. Yeah, that's unfortunate. But that wraps up uh the morning session. 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