# Episode 70: We talk Avengers and the September Showdown!

**Source:** Poor Man's Pinball Podcast  
**Type:** podcast_episode  
**Published:** 2020-09-02  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://poormanspinballpodcast.libsyn.com/episode-70-we-talk-avengers-and-the-september-showdown

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## Analysis

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast Episode 70 discusses the recent Stern Pinball Avengers teaser announcement, with hosts expressing mixed reactions to the game's timing and theme choice given current production backlogs. The episode covers personal pinball updates including a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Premium Edition troubleshooting story, arcade machine restoration work, and community feedback on the Avengers announcement via live chat.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Stern released an Avengers teaser video with Jeremy Packer artwork — _Direct discussion of Stern's Friday/Thursday teaser video showing 'Avengers assemble' theme with Stern logo and artwork attributed to Jeremy Packer_
- [MEDIUM] The Avengers game is rumored to be a cornerstone machine, not a Home Pin Pinball — _Host Drew claims Zach Minney said 'this is probably a cornerstone,' though later notes Stern hasn't had their distro meeting yet, leaving room for it potentially being Home Pin Pinball_
- [MEDIUM] Stern is currently backlogged with orders for at least 30 days and finishing TMNT Premium runs — _Host states 'they supposedly have, you know, enough orders for like, yeah, at least the next 30 days' and mentions Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Premium Edition delays into October_
- [HIGH] A recent code update added a DJ mixer feature to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles — _Direct discussion of new code update allowing players to hold flippers at game start to access all in-game songs via jukebox-style DJ mixer_
- [HIGH] The host's TMNT Premium Edition had a pin connection issue on the node board that was resolved by re-pinning a single wire — _Detailed troubleshooting story where opto replacement failed but re-pinning a wire on the control board fixed ball detection issue_

### Notable Quotes

> "I just don't see the excitement. I think it's a weird timing... I feel like it should have been a Home Pin Pinball."
> — **Scott Ian (host)**, ~45:00
> _Core criticism of Stern's Avengers announcement timing and format, expressing skepticism about releasing another cornerstone given production backlog_

> "So I've been really working on this arcade machine in my spare time... now it's just I have to put the monitor in there and wire up the JAMMA harness, and we should be good to go."
> — **Drew (host)**, ~12:00
> _Personal hobby update showing host's active involvement in arcade restoration work outside of pinball_

> "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is looking good, playing good... Jesus Christ, is that game fun."
> — **Host discussing TMNT Premium**, ~8:00
> _Positive endorsement of TMNT gameplay and praise for distributor Zach Minney's customer service in troubleshooting_

> "I know I got a little bit of tiny bit of info from Zach Sharpe, and he told me I could share it, which was fine. That is probably a cornerstone, but it's possible maybe it is just a Home Pin Pinball, right?"
> — **Host Drew**, ~50:00
> _Sources insider information from Zach Sharpe (Stern) suggesting Avengers is likely cornerstone but acknowledging uncertainty pending distro meeting_

> "I would have been excited about a Black Panther pin, especially given the recent events."
> — **Scott Ian (host)**, ~40:00
> _Expression of preference for alternative Marvel character/property over Avengers, with tribute to Chadwick Boseman_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| Stern Pinball | company | Released Avengers teaser video; currently backlogged with production; running multiple game lines including TMNT, Guardians of the Galaxy, Jurassic Park |
| Zach Minney | person | Operator at Flippin' Out Pinball distributor; provided customer service and technical support for TMNT Premium Edition troubleshooting; appears to have supplied host's machine |
| Jeremy Packer | person | Artist at Stern Pinball; created artwork for Avengers teaser video that resembles his signature style and was confirmed by him per host |
| Zach Sharpe | person | Stern Pinball employee who provided insider information about Avengers being probably a cornerstone title, with distro meeting pending |
| Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles | game | Stern Premium Edition machine owned by host; recently received DJ mixer code update; experienced ball detection issue later resolved; host has 170+ plays in 1.5 weeks |
| Avengers | game | New Stern Pinball teaser announced via video; rumored cornerstone machine based on Marvel IP; timing questioned due to production backlog; mixed community reception in chat |
| Flippin' Out Pinball | company | Distributor and retailer providing TMNT Premium machines; operator Zach Minney praised for customer service; one of podcast sponsors |
| Poor Man's Pinball Podcast | organization | Source content; episode 70 discussing recent pinball industry news and community chat engagement |
| This Week in Pinball | organization | News outlet; mentioned as sponsor/partner; operates by Jeff Patterson covering pinball industry news |
| Scott Ian | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; critical of Avengers announcement timing; prefers alternative Marvel properties or new themes |
| Drew | person | Co-host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast; owns TMNT Premium and Oktoberfest; troubleshot TMNT hardware issues; working on arcade machine restoration |
| Jurassic Park | game | Recent Stern release; chat member notes having Premium Edition on order since March; part of recent Stern game pipeline |
| Stranger Things | game | Referenced as recent Stern release from end of prior year; part of discussion of recent Stern production timeline |
| Oktoberfest | game | American Pinball game owned by Drew; described as approachable for casual players; family-friendly gameplay noted |
| Laser War | game | Older game in Drew's collection; described as underrated with impressive lighting and 80s sound effects; loud attract mode noted |
| Steven Martin | person | Tribe member #2 on podcast; creates custom intro jingles with Glenn Wechter based on show content; credits as wordsmith |
| Glenn Wechter | person | Tribe member #7; creates custom music for podcast intros with Steven Martin |
| Guardians of the Galaxy | game | Stern running another production batch per host; part of current Stern production schedule |
| Home Pin Pinball | product | Virtual/digital pinball platform; speculation that Avengers might be released on this instead of cornerstone cabinet |
| Deep Root Pinball | company | Mentioned in context of production struggles; referenced in chat comments suggesting new Avengers announcement may be attempt to undercut competitor |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Stern Avengers game announcement and speculation, TMNT Premium Edition hardware troubleshooting, Stern production backlog and timing concerns
- **Secondary:** Code updates and game features (DJ mixer in TMNT), Community preferences for Marvel IP themes, Arcade restoration and maintenance
- **Mentioned:** Home collector vs. arcade operator machine preferences

### Sentiment

**Mixed** (0.45) — Hosts show enthusiasm for personal pinball ownership and community engagement, but express frustration and skepticism about Stern's business decisions (Avengers timing and format). Chat shows divided opinion on theme choice, with some enthusiasm but significant criticism of repeat IP and timing.

### Signals

- **[announcement]** Stern Pinball released official Avengers teaser video with 'Ready to Assemble' tagline and Jeremy Packer artwork (confidence: high) — Direct reference to Stern releasing teaser 'Friday or Thursday' with Stern logo replacing Marvel logo; Jeremy Packer confirmed authorship of artwork
- **[machine_intel]** Avengers is rumored to be a cornerstone machine based on insider information from Zach Sharpe, though Home Pin Pinball variant remains possible pending distro meeting (confidence: medium) — Host cites Zach Sharpe stating 'this is probably a cornerstone' and notes they 'haven't had their distro meeting' yet
- **[product_concern]** TMNT Premium Edition experiences ball detection failures related to node board pin connections requiring manual re-pinning (confidence: high) — Detailed troubleshooting narrative where opto replacement failed; issue resolved by re-pinning single wire on node board per Flippin' Out Pinball technician guidance
- **[code_update]** Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles received new code update featuring DJ mixer jukebox functionality accessible by holding flippers at game start (confidence: high) — Host discusses new feature allowing players to access all songs in game via DJ mixer interface
- **[supply_chain_signal]** Stern currently backlogged with orders for at least 30 days; TMNT Premium Edition experiencing October delivery delays (confidence: medium) — Host states 'they supposedly have, you know, enough orders for like, yeah, at least the next 30 days' and mentions TMNT orders extending to October
- **[sentiment_shift]** Mixed to negative community reaction to Avengers announcement focusing on poor timing, repeat IP, and preference for alternative themes (confidence: high) — Chat shows consistent criticism: 'Nobody wants an Avengers pin. There was just an Avengers pin.' Chat preferences expressed for Black Panther, Spider-Man, Ren and Stimpy, G.I. Joe, and new properties over Avengers
- **[market_signal]** Host notes timing concern about announcing new cornerstone while all production lines busy with existing orders and backlog (confidence: high) — Host questions: 'I don't understand because, um, they supposedly have, you know, enough orders for like, yeah, at least the next 30 days... All the lines are busy. That's what's odd to me.'
- **[competitor_signal]** Chat comment suggests Avengers announcement may be strategic move to undercut Deep Root Pinball's market position (confidence: low) — Chat member Stephen Cameron Silver states: 'seems like they want to cut Deep Root Pinball off at the knees' in response to Avengers announcement
- **[product_strategy]** Discussion of Stern's strategic choice between cornerstone vs. Home Pin Pinball format for Avengers reflects uncertainty about product positioning (confidence: medium) — Host notes 'it's possible maybe it is just a Home Pin Pinball' and suggests that format might have been better received: 'If they would have done that, everyone would have been like, yeah, I get it'
- **[personnel_signal]** Jeremy Packer confirmed as artist for Avengers teaser, indicating continued design leadership role at Stern (confidence: high) — Host states 'it looked like Jeremy Packer art' and 'He claimed it. Yes, he did claim that it was his art.'

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## Transcript

 This episode of the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast is brought to you by This Week in Pinball. Check out This Week in Pinball for all the latest news. Jeff Patterson does a great job of encapsulating all the pinball news in today's world. You can find out some great stuff that's going on in pinball and check out their new monthly videos. It's very digestible. Yeah, that's a good word. Digestible it is. We are also brought to you by Pinshades. Visit our buddy, Jockton, who Pinshades on the Pinside Market. Enter code POORMANS with an S at checkout for 10% off your order. We are also brought to you by pinballprices.com. Mr. Doc Finlay, he got in here because he gave us a bottle of booze, but his site really is awesome. Check it out. If you're looking to buy or sell a pinball machine, that is the place to go, pinballprices.com. We are also brought to you by Pinstadium Lights. I've been messaging back and forth with Scott. They got these great new products. What is it called? Neo Fusion. And they got the new Neo. It's got the anti-blur technology, so those lines on your ramps will disappear. And I am going to be picking up a pair of the new Neo Fusions for Turtles, hopefully in a week or so. And for pinstadium.com, enter poorman at checkout for 10% off your order. Don't forget to add those accessories. And last, and certainly not least, Flip N Out Pinball. Thank you, Zach, for my Turtles Premium. Finally got it up and running. We will talk about that later. If you need a new pinball machine, please call this man. He's a lot of things, and one of those things is a great distributor. Flip N Out Pinball for all your pinball needs. New and used inventory. Finally, the answer to the age-old question of what's inside my funnel. It's dildos, of course. And by that, I mean it's time for the poor man's pinball. Welcome to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast, Episode 70. Yeah, dildos is what's in your butt, I guess. Can I say this? Some of the stuff I don't hear before we go on air, and every week I'm like, this can't get more ridiculous. And then that happens. Martin? It does. That's Martin, listener number 15 Tribe member number 2 And Glenn Tribe member number 7, Glenn Glenn Waechter On the music And Martin on the words Martin, you are a wordsmith Yeah, so they're going to be trying to do a custom one every week They're going to base it off of the dumb shit we say But that was about the trash The trash chat room From last week So every week, Martin's probably listening He's taking notes and he's like dildos and buttholes okay got it i'm all set i'm all set with this script for next week trying to figure it out he doesn't have to listen long he doesn't have to listen oh my god he just has to go to chat yes that's it yes that's it and then uh but no thank you guys glenn and martin that's pretty fucking funny jesus christ usually usually the train rolls around rolls along fine for like a few miles but today it just kind of it already started yeah started off good i like it so uh drew what you drinking today bud uh i'm trying something new what we have here this is my this is my uh vanna white impression we have amador it's a double barrel blended bourbon whiskey check this out this is the the cap finished with chardonnay wine barrels was that down here yeah Oh, shit. Yeah. I was looking at him like, I've never seen that guy before. Yeah. So here we are. How is it? It's good. You mixing it with something? Nope. Straight. Got a couple of ice cubes, a mix of cubes. Straight to the point. I like it, Drew. Today I am drinking Jenny Walker Black Label, kids. So go ahead and have that. Oh, Pete's picture is all glared out. This is Pete Quince. Oh, there you go. Yeah. That might fall, but. It's definitely going to fall. It's a beautiful thing. Can I? save it with that guy just don't even touch it don't even look at it well you guys look at it you guys that is beautiful pete quint uh so we're going to talk about this later but we get all kinds of gifts from our tribe members pete's the only one to send us uh nude and non-nude pictures yes thank you pete thanks and that no thank you but anyway so what we're going to do today is since we have this video format might as well show you some of this dumb shit that we get Love it. So we're going to do that later today. For those of you listening, you're just going to have to tighten your little buttholes and go on Facebook. Like us on Facebook. That way you can get the notifications. And also on Facebook, on our Facebook page, we do have, there's a live tab where you can click on that, and it has all of our previous live broadcasts. So you can definitely come by and check it out at your leisure. But it's no fun. Guys at chat will tell you it's no fun. You got to go and you have to experience this chat room. You need to see the dildos in action in the chat room. Yeah, these guys are complete and utter cocksuckers, and we love them. Can we say that on here? I just did. George Carlin would be proud. Yes, sir. All right. So what do we got today, dude? Today, we'll talk our week. We'll talk a little bit of our personal news, as always. Kind of got rid of that segment, but we're just going to talk about our week. News. There is actually quite a bit of news this week. A lot of movement on Stern's front. There's a lot of rumors flying around. There's new people on Pinside that are spreading all kinds of rumors. What else we have? We'll talk a little bit about Deep Root. Not that there's a ton there, but some more speculation, more rumors, of course, as always. We have a very special tribe induction today. I would like to say that this guy, person, we don't want to give it away, may have been overlooked for a while. So we're pretty excited about this one today. And then we got mailbag. Like I said, we're going to show you guys some of the awesome stuff that people send us. Right. Yep, that's it, man. That's it. That's a show. That's a whole show because we get distracted. We get off the rails. Oh, terrible. But we don't want to go two hours. That's the thing, because people start falling off. All right, here we go. Poor Man's Personal Pinball News. And now, the moment you've all been waiting for. Of course, I'm talking about the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast, Personal Pinball News. All right, Drew, what do we got for Personal Pinball News? Turtles Premium. You have one. I do have one. I don't. I had one. Tell me your tales on this Turtles Premium. I had one that wasn't functioning quite properly. I replaced the opto, as I said last week, and that was not it. Hold on, hold on. Let's go back. Let's remind the viewers and listeners exactly what was going on. The balls weren't being located. You're going into ball search? The van opto, how it works, balls spit into the van opto at the start of the game. there should be three balls in there yeah the game won't start without them so three balls in there five balls in the trough right so that's what they say i only have two balls in my trough but you know whatever you got a good trough though don't yeah yeah it's a fair trough don't let people don't let people tell you any different bud my trough works yes it is my turtles trough did not touche so clean optos in there dude yeah yeah so i you know zach and i were talking i said his great customer service we're going back and forth and you know just just having some fun with it and he's like yeah you know just i bought the opto it was 15 bucks i put it in i had to reroute this is i had to reroute one of the wires because when i pulled it out you know it's like under plastics and stuff and the only way i was going to get it back to where it belongs was to like rip off the turtle van take off plastics i wasn't going to do all that right so anyways i rerouted it through the back and it's fine it's not a big deal the opto wire that is and i get it all set up i'm excited i turn it on and what happens the same exact thing gotcha so it's not the opto and i'm like oh shit so i told zach i said hey man you know not the opto we didn't think it was the node board just because everything else on that node board was functioning properly right you know switch test everything else that was connected to it so he said usually when the node boards go bad you know there's lots of there's several things that are not right so So anyways, he's like, hey, there's this one wire, which I already knew the wire because I was looking at the schematics. And it was one wire on one pin. And it looked fine in there. But he's like, yeah, maybe we should just re-pin it. So I pulled the wire out. I snipped it. I re-pinned it. Lo and behold, she's working. One little lonely pin. So good thing I have all the proper tools and a little bit of knowledge. Yeah, a little know-how went a long way there. Well, that's what I told him. Zach was probably extremely happy about that. He was. He was. And that's what I told him. I said, you know what? I'm fortunate that I have some of this pinball knowledge. I've been doing this for a little while. So I was able to fix my own shit. Good for you, man. It made me happy. Good for you. Not everyone's that lucky, though. No, no. So more importantly, though, Turtles is up and running, man. That game is fantastic. Jesus Christ, is that game fun. Yeah? Like, you feel like you're watching the cartoon, you're playing the game, you know, you're fighting Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady, Slash. I mean, it's awesome. It's just awesome. I feel your enthusiasm, man. That's great. I love it. I've played, let's see, I've had Turtles for a week and a half. It was down for, you know, four or five days, whatever it is, maybe two weeks now. I've had it total. I just check the game. What do you think my game total is? 500. I don't have that much time. I still work, my friend. Sorry, Tim Lee was at 540. I just based it off that. He has kids, and the neighborhood kids come over. No. 300. No. 200. Pretty close to 200. Yeah, I'm at 170-something. So I've been playing the shit out of it, yeah. That was a thumbs down for you listening. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I got to remember. We got to tell people when we show stuff. Yeah, there's... Okay. I'm giving the okay symbol. The video and then there's the audio, guys. And now we're raining dildos. No? Okay. Stephen Silver's still working on that. So anyways, the problem is he's got so many to choose from. His own personal collection. Oh, Jesus. Love you, Steven. So, you know, once again, shout out to Zach and Nicole flipping out pinball. Turtles is looking good, playing good. And then, you know, that's where we are. But that was my week because then it was just work, work, work. Work, work, work. Work, work, work, work, work, work. What about you, sir? Pinball news. Give me something good. It's the same. I got Oktoberfest. I have Oktoberfest. Well, no. We hosted a lot this weekend. So we did – Laura's parents came in on Saturday and my parents came in on Sunday. And Oktoberfest got plenty of games in. That's good. Nobody can walk down here and get a beer without playing one game. No, it's awesome. It is that. It's approachable, and they love it. I try to explain the game, but it's even better if they just go for it, because then it's all new. Does poor Laser Award, does anyone touch her? I turned it on, and we all laughed. It was a good laugh. I'm sad. Every time I come down here, Oktoberfest is on and Laser War is off. Well, Laser War is off because the attract mode is very loud. Oh, that's right. It plays it. Yeah. Yeah, that was my thing. Yeah, I don't mind it. I play it. I played it the other day. It's all good. I played it. I had a great time with Laser War. Laser War is a fantastic game. My wife hated F-14 because that was the only game I had that actually made noise in the track mode. The sirens just start going off. Yes. And it starts playing that loud music. Yeah. And, yeah, so. But, oh, so Turtles. Let me know what you think about this because I'm kind of mixed. no pun intended when you hear this um so they released a new code update for turtles right yep they added a dj mixer yeah they basically they basically at the beginning of the game you can hold down the flippers flip to it and then it's um it's all the songs in the game how do you feel about that like a jukebox basically that's cool okay that's cool yeah i it's neat i i don't know why they came up with it i mean it's it's it's cool it's you know but all right into chat here daniel donald you get rid of any pins yet again no uh the collection is staying good i got a little mix of old and little mix of new so i'm actually really happy with my collection um i can only fit about two in here um one of these days we'll have to do it when the camera's not mounted we'll do some special behind the scenes of uh the poor man's pinball podcast but yeah no laser war is a hell of a lot of fun for its age i think it actually plays like a newer game but it's older it's just a fun game it's actually really really underrated in my opinion and and the light show is way ahead of its time way ahead of its time it really is way ahead of its time and then not only that the sound effects are that pure 80s bliss that i love so um there's that one thing i i i don't like you know everything about it i actually really like so it's staying for a while and octoberfest isn't going anywhere for anytime soon that's almost bolted i just I just have too much fun with it. And every time I play, like I said, I play a different tent. Oh, shit, I've never played this one before. So, yeah, I have a good time with it. I wonder how many plays I have. But, nope. What else we got here? One day, Wah Wah needs Spotify. Okay. One day, Ian will sell me his Oktoberfest. Jonathan Hall, no. No, I will not. Jonathan Hall, you can get one from Flipkart. Tim Lee, on to DJ Mixer. But I did turn it on and left for an hour knowing it would annoy my wife. Good job, Tim Lee. Chris Chandler, but how did your mistress feel about it, Tim? Ooh, yep. Got to ask Ann. Yep. There's some dick things going on. Josh Mudd is doing something with emojis, I guess. I don't know what's happening there. Someone's buying something for a dollar. So, yeah, same old chat. Welcome back, guys. For those just joining us, yeah, our chat's a little ridiculous, but we try to have a good show here. We try to put on some entertainment. So don't leave just yet because you'll see a couple of dildo jokes. Well played. Well played. So anyway, so we're already at 102 comments. You guys are on fire. You're on pace to hit 600. Oh, what do we got to beat? Last week was like 500 or something. Okay. There you go, guys. Challenge accepted. Yes. Yeah, now we're just going to see dildo 500 times. Oh, my God. Do we even know what Josh is doing? No, nobody ever knows what Josh Mudd is doing. All right, so. Josh's woman doesn't even know what Josh is doing. So that's my personal pinball news. I don't really have tons because we have – I've been really working on this arcade machine in my spare time, so I do have an arcade machine I'm currently still fixing. The problem is there was a plexiglass shortage, so I couldn't get plexi. Oh, because of COVID? Yeah, so I got some now finally today. Was it more expensive? No, it was still like – no. I had a marquee cut. I had two pieces cut for the marquee, and it was like $13, so not bad. Got it. Not bad. And then, yeah, I finished the control panel finally today and then did the marquee. And, yeah, now it's just I got to put the monitor in and wire up the JAMA harness, and we should be good to go. So I say it like it's going to be real quick, but it'll still take me another day. But I need to get it out of my garage. My wife keeps looking at it like, okay, okay. And then there was another arcade machine that was in the dump by me, and I was like, I should grab it. Oh, that looked good, too. It did look good. And Laura was like, finally, she was like, yeah, you should probably grab that. But you got to finish that one in the garage first before you touch that one. I'm like, I know. I know. I know. So anyway, that's just arcade-related news. But all right, man. What else we got? News? News. News, news, news. All right. Real news. Not our news. Well, I don't have any music for news, so just do it. This is news News We just lost five listeners That over whatever uh well i kick this one off because i pretty excited about this are you ready for this ian sure man are you ready for the news i'm never ready for the news but what do we got so stern uh what was that friday maybe thursday friday yeah whatever a few days ago stern released a teaser video everyone knows but oh okay i know where we're going with this they uh they released uh an avengers teaser said uh you know avengers assemble and then or no i'm sorry like time ready to assemble ready to assemble and then uh you know instead of the marvel logo at the end it was the stern logo but the best part was it looked like zombie yeti art so i'm i'm pretty stoked so then uh you know the rumors went flying right because everyone thought hey this this is probably just a home pin right that was that was the assumption i think i think most people when they saw this including me you know just because of their past they're like yep you know what this is cool but it's probably going to be a home pin well i started texting Zach and stuff, and he said, nope, this is probably a cornerstone. So what do you think about that? I think it's exciting. I'm so bummed. Why are you bummed? Nobody wants an Avengers pin. There was just an Avengers pin. First of all, that pin wasn't good. Oh, okay. Second of all, this is comic book art. not some i don't give a shit oh you don't care okay i don't give a shit i think it's an awful he's not excited go to chat chat what do you think about the avengers pin i'm not excited about it i'm not excited about i don't care about the avengers okay what do i care about the avengers there's way better movies even in that own universe than the avengers endgame what what marvel okay you can black panther had been better i agree with that i can't disagree with that yeah black panther would have been better i'd have been excited about a black panther pin especially given the recent events uh rest in peace um kala king t'challa kala what's his name i don't know um but damn it he shouldn't have died number one number two the goddamn pinball should have been a a black panther if anything i just why does it have to be comic book i feel like we're in this rut where it's comic book or music or i don't know Steve Ritchie whatever the fuck he wants to do like what are we doing here what are we doing is this i guess it's just what sells people get excited about sure well and that's obviously at the end of the day that's what they're concerned with right they're not they're not like oh what are these you know 10 of diehards want what what is the what are the masses want and go ahead i bet you that's All right, chime in. All right, well, you know, go ahead. Bring it, dude. Come on, Chad. I'm here. Chadwick Bosman. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Billy Y.J. We should have had his name. Anyway, we weren't thinking about it. Okay, here we go. So Team Drew or Team Ian? What does Ryan say? Ryan will be on my – Drew's News. All right. Let's see here. I just think that Avengers is – It didn't just look like zombie art, zombie yeti art. he claimed it yes he did claim that it was his heart um elwyn cornerstone is that what you're thinking billy yj yes that is that is the hard rumor that is the almost confirmed rumor how's that ryan you tech i honestly don't know why stern is launching another cornerstone right now exactly they're already backed up that i agree with here's here's my problem with it yeah the timing i don't understand because um they supposedly have you know enough orders for like yeah at least the next 30 days i mean they're they're finishing up you know they're going to do some some turtles pros they're trying to get out they said some people aren't going to get them to like october um they're running like another guardians of the galaxy run um you know they have several other titles all the lines are busy that's what's odd to me well they got a schedule they got to keep with it sure uh mike williams bullshit i want one i know mike williams is a fan billy But YJ is right. But hey now. Yeah, I'm assuming he's saying he too. I know Billy. So, Billy, what are you going to do? You're going to sell your Avengers and get this Avengers, I'm assuming? Tim Lee, I'm interested due to the designer. My family is interested due to the theme. Josh Mudd, Avengers is old news. Thank you, Josh Mudd. Ryan Utek, yeah, they're still backlogged. Josh Mudd, Munsters is the oldest news. Sean Frayden, hello, man. Yep, hey, bud. Billy YJ or Black Widow. Yeah, Black Widow would be kind of cool. It would be. Avengers theme has great potential. Brad Hopkins, Jonathan Hall, that would have been a cool UV light pin. Can I make a suggestion? Bring in new characters. Joseph Hood, thank you. I want to see it, but first instinct was disappointment. Daniel Donald. I want to see. It's pretty 50-50 right now. Okay. I want to see Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet glove, and then the ball goes into it, and then it disappears. Eric Brandon Walker, will not buy, but curious to play, especially if it's an Elwynn game. Rest in peace, guy who died. Sorry, Joe. Oh, Jesus. Whitewater 2 or Medieval Madness 2? Oh, Josh Mudd. Don Bonus. Ren and Stimpy. Jonathan Hall. Hardbody 2. Hang on. Stop there. Team Drew on this one. Billy White. Thanks, Billy. I love you, man. Don Bonus. I would rather see Ren and Stimpy than Avengers. I do agree with you there. All right. Everyone knows I love my cartoons. So, yeah, Ren and Stimpy. Ren and Stimpy or Beavis and Butthead, I would love to see better than Avengers. Yeah, but here we go. Jonathan Hall and Joseph Hood, hard body, too. They'd rather see hard body, too. I'm not opposed to it. That'd be pretty cool. Hard body, too. Who'd be in that? I don't know if Schwarzenegger is. Scott Vogt. Scott Vogt. I've had a Jurassic Park premium on order since March. I don't see the advantage of announcing this game at this time. Oh, shit. No, I agree. That's what I'm saying. Josh Mudd, G.I. Joe Penn. Fuck yes, I would have one over Avengers. Yes, over Avengers for sure. Sean Frayden, team me, and thank you, buddy. Josh Mudd, 80s music pin. Freight in, you're dead to me. Oh, whatever, Drew. Drew takes shit so seriously. I do. I do. You don't like my Avengers? Yeah. No. Can I set the record straight? No, because one of us has Avengers underwear on right now, and the other one's name is Ian, okay? So you guys go fuck yourself. I need to contain my metal balls. Hang on. Yeah. Avengers isn't on the top of my superhero pin list, but if the game is awesome, I can get by it. Who said that? Tim Lee. Okay. What did Ryan say then after that? Avengers will be a good, if it is Elwin. I mean, that hasn't verified yet, and I don't expect him to. Oh, you don't expect him? I think he's going to. Stephen Silver seems like they want to cut Deep Root off at the knees. Yes, that's it. That's true. Here's the thing, guys. I don't, Avengers is not in my top, even my top ten. I'm just saying I'm a huge Marvel fan. You know, I've been looking at Deadpool. I've been looking at Iron Man. I've been looking at Spider-Man. this might satisfy all those scratches itches whatever but um jerry's got itches and scratches i do it's it's my it's it's my avengers under ruse yes um you know i'm looking at my lineup now like i said i'm being more careful with my choices because of my limited space the thing i'm missing in my lineup right now is a superhero pin so when i heard this i said hey is that really supposed to be in the lineup though yes because you could argue that the teenage mutant turtles are kind of superhero they're heroes they're not comic book heroes how's that i know they have you don't want an avenger one you want a spider-man if what if spider-man's in the avenger one he won't be but if he was if it's all right this little spider-man's in the corner you're like done that's good maybe yeah maybe i love comic book stuff i've seen all the Marvel movies, but we did it already. Move on. Hang on. So, of the comic books... Would you have been upset if they did a Guardians of the Galaxy 2? Oh, that'd be terrible. If... Okay, you can choose one comic... You can't just pick and choose comic books then. One comic book pin. What do you get? If I get one comic book pin? Yep. There's a lot of them to choose from. Gambit. What about one that's already made, though? i mean so i mean pin yeah i don't want any if it's already made you don't want deadpool oh like the old yeah yeah oh i thought you're saying if they were made no no you get you get one that's already in existence oh which one the collection yes you mean to tell me i gotta sell no you don't have to sell it i'm just gonna give you one comic book pin um does turtles count probably turtles turtles does not count fuck you that's that's an 80s cartoon different different different we're straining his brain here i do like your gambit idea though deadpool's fine okay deadpool deadpool chat chat what would you prefer pro of of all the comic pins that are out there what do you prefer iron man's good spider-man's good deadpool's good this new avengers is going to be good i can tell you got me thinking now you could tell already it was just like a flash of oh i know have you met me drew's like it's awesome i didn't see it i didn't even hear when you ask ian what are the top three things he likes about me number one is i get excited about everything yes well especially yes right yes everything i get excited about everything i'm sorry guys sue me i like living my life jesus you didn't like living your life now you're Throwing words in my mouth. Whatever. Let's move past it. I'm going to put a dildo in your mouth. That's better than my asshole, all right? Or butthole. Sorry. Sorry, kids. Butthole. But anyway, yeah, I just don't see the excitement. I think it's a weird timing. No, the timing is weird. I think it's a weird cornerstone. It makes more sense to me to be an actual home pin, to be honest with me. I feel like it should have been a home pin. If they would have done that, everyone would have been like, yeah, I get it. It's a big license. Sorry, Mike Williams, but I don't see it. I feel like we just did Avengers, so we're okay. We can move on. Let's do something new. Can I say something, though? I'd like something new. I would like them to reach into that bag and pull out something awesome and new. I know I got a little bit of tiny bit of info from Zach, and he told me I could share it, which was fine. That is probably a cornerstone, but it's possible maybe it is just a home pin, right? I mean, Stern's done stuff like that before. Because he said they haven't had their distro meeting. All right. So let me ask you this. Go ahead. Not that I wasn't listening. I was listening. That's interesting. What were the last three Stern releases? Turtles. Turtles. Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park. And what else did we have? Turtles, Jurassic Park, and help us out there. Oh, Stranger Things. Stranger Things. All right. Stranger Things. Wait, hang on. Stranger Things was at the end of the year, last year. And then what was in? Help us out, guys. There was something else earlier this year. What did we miss? They did that Iron Man re-vault. Yeah, and they did the. Crap. Yeah, go to Pinside. Yeah, they did Stranger Things at Christmas. and then they did the Iron Man Revolts sometime before COVID and then shit, why can we not? I think there was something. Elvira? Yeah, I guess Elvira's in there. Yeah, maybe. I don't remember the order. I guess my point was Yeah, what's your point? Go ahead. What's my point? I've been thinking about it the whole time. I have no idea what my point is. Alright, so it's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Stranger Things, uh they did the star wars comic art elvira's house of horror that's right okay that makes sense that's the lineup yeah here we go jurassic park there's already a game two games with the jurassic park elvira there's already two elvira games out there this is this will be the third yep well this will be the third jurassic park as well star wars star wars there's already been plenty of star wars games stranger things finally something a little bit new right fair enough cage ranger turtles already has the turtles game so here we go avengers we already have an avengers game oh so you're saying they're just they're just packing on i'm just like done let's get something else man i'm just thinking let's let's let's go a little deeper that's all i'm asking for i'm digging ladies and gentlemen this is a first i agree with you that that was no no that was that was a lovely argument because um i'm looking at on the screen as he's scrolling there and he's right everything has been you know it's not even like this this type of genre has been done these are the exact themes yeah the themes because like you said Turtles, Star Wars where we say Elvira, Jurassic Park Stranger Things is the only one within the last year and a half that was actually somewhat of an original so does that mean didn't sell okay wait wait wait no just hear me out this would be crazy oh and Iron Man but that's that's a whole other thing but go ahead this would be crazy so Brian Eddy works for stern right yes Brian Eddy did the shadow right yes he does what if they brought out a new shadow pen at this fucking at this point i wouldn't fucking i wouldn't be surprised could you imagine stern pinball releases a movie from 1992 shadow the shadow hey alec baldwin we need you for voiceovers oh yeah what movie the shadow what he's like did i do that oh man how crazy would that be but no i there's something to god damn i hate when you're right ian i know sometimes sometimes sometimes i got it well all right does that mean they're gonna make a a new ghostbusters or um yeah redo lord okay everybody's helping us out with that thing buttholes not asshole yep sorry josh mud i apologize elvira was after jurassic park um it was so that was exactly why giant mnemonic 2020 yes Stephen Silver that's it we're gonna keep going let's make sure sure what's the next bit of it all right so the teaser was released it's it's a it's yeah it's it's exactly what it is a teaser everyone's throwing some teasers out there everyone's tickling our balls but not giving us anything we want so september is going to be a crazy month we're going after it they're going after each other so we got a teaser we didn't get a teaser from jjp no no let's let's move on to oh there's there's people messaging us yeah it figures yeah uh yep anyways sorry franchi says pinball is following hollywood going with safe tried and true properties rather than risk money on a whim that's something new and original take off Christopher Franchi you're right that's exactly what we were talking about like they're they know the money's there so they're just going to do it i get it yep i get it french it makes a lot of sense thanks franchi um so uh toy story people have been there's been tons of rumors flying around that toy story and guns and roses have both been done by jjp and because of the current climate that they might throw toy story in front this is on canada's podcast or not podcast or ball pin on pin side come on kaneda i will tell you i will tell you this and and what is ball pin anyways i will tell you this these are the kind of months where i'm happy kaneda doesn't have a podcast could you imagine four or five episodes of just it's toy story no wait it's i'm hearing it's guns and roses it's gonna blow your mind wait no you know what it's gonna be toy story he's all over the place yep and he would do a live show like us and be like look at my abs it's toy story It's Toy Story. Did you see these abs? No socks, all abs. It's Toy Story. Wait, no. Guns and Roses. Hold on. Let me play some Guns and Roses on the piano. Here, draw Woody on his abs. We can't because we love. It's ridiculous, though. I mean the Toy Story versus Guns and Roses what makes more sense right now today Toy Story Why is that Well a couple of things J is known for their family pens Guns N' Roses will not be a family-friendly pen. So that's it. Well, wouldn't that let it stand out more? Oh, absolutely. No, I... Aren't there people out there that have been wanting them to go a little bit more adult-oriented? Absolutely. Because kids don't buy pinball. Sure, sure. No, I agree with that. Adults do. But a lot of adults buy pens for their kids. Yeah. That's just the way it is. Do they? I don't. I buy them for me. $8,000 toy. You're going to get a Toy Story. But I also love Toy Story, so I'm kind of a bad example of that. Drew's like, you know what's missing in my lineup? I need a Pixar movie. You know me. You know me so well, Ian. Yeah, I need a superhero and a Pixar movie. And the wife's going to divorce me, but that's cool. I'm going to need a new wife. Yeah, whatever. No, it's all good. It's all good. Have you made your wife dress up as the bride of Pinbot yet? No. No, because after I heard that Glenn Glenn Waechter thing from way back when, that was a turnoff. Listening to the robot sex. Yeah, I know. Go back to episode something and listen to that. Tim Lee, I bought them for my kids. At least that's what I told Ann. I know. I know, too. Well, your wife, Mike Williams, or our kids. Of course, Mike. Yeah, Jesus. So anyways, what do you think? Do you think Toy Story could possibly come out first, or is that just a non-starter? Why is everyone saying that? I could care less about Toy Story, but that's been my opinion from day one. So I'd rather see the Guns N' Roses. I'd like to see a little bit of an adult-orientated pin from them, and I want to see it rock. Are they going to be shipping in September, whatever it is? No. You don't think so? October. October. reveal september ship october maybe even november i don't know we'll see but they said they will not reveal unless they're ready to ship in two weeks that was their statement we'll see big smile that's what's gonna happen okay but we don't need to keep going to that uh deep root they're still launching in september according to robert miller jonathan hall my kid decided to give away all his toy story toys this week does this mean i should save them for a topper question mark oh is that i think were you the one who put that thing on facebook jonathan hall did you see that he put uh the picture of all his kids toys and he goes i think i've seen this movie before and it was literally all these toy story toys it was no it was woody it was buzz it was the slinky dog i mean it was every uh mr potato head it was kind of funny right so isn't that interesting like all these old toys you know from our from our our childhood no not from mr potato we had mr potato head yeah that was the only one of that you had a woody well no well you had a buzz light year you mean now moving on all right so what about deep root do we have another non-news thing well i just i know deeper do we said do we think it's going to happen in september yeah the big well that's what the nine was nine five or nine nine i think nine people are like nine days a deep root i just think that means the september that's a date yeah that's nine september sept nine you know robert miller i i respect you i want to really see what your company can do fuck yeah but but you got you got to do something man i mean well like hold on to your butts it's the 31st tomorrow's the first if you're listening to this it's already september we should have raza in our houses by the time you hear this robert miller ian and i have some poll here and we want to see you do something. So send us a Raza game. We'll give you a review. How's that? Piece of cake. Just send it to... Email us. You got our email. There you go. All right. So what else we got? All right. So that teaser thing. Yeah. What do you think about Deep Root? What do you think is going to happen? I know they got to release something. I get it. And it's probably going to be Raza. How cool would it be if it was Raza and a game we have not seen yet? Two games. Well, here's the thing. Because September could potentially be Avengers, Toy Story, or Guns N' Roses. And a Deep Root game. Hopefully, I think it'll be two Deep Root games. One that we've seen, Raza, and another surprise mystery game. It's still, with Deep Root, I think it still comes down to manufacturing. Well, we'll see. We will see. But, yeah, it's possible. I mean, you know, for as long as it's been, maybe they have two or three games. Tim Lee, you guys have a different kind of pull. Tim Lee. Brian Kasner, I agree. I'm calling you tomorrow morning. I'll show you my pull. But who really wants a Raza? Yeah, Mike Williams, I want to play a Raza. I don't want to buy a Raza. And I think many people are like that. They want to see this game in person. It's a new company. We want to see what it's all about. But, yeah, who does want a Raza? I don't know. Well, I'm just afraid that they're going to suffer a little bit early on from the same thing that P3 Multimorphic and American Pinball, they need themes. Because we've gone through this over and over again. The themes really are king. Fucking Gottlieb figured it out. Data East figured it out. Williams Fott figured it out. Stern figured it out. Because if you just want... American Pinball finally figured it out. And I want to be real serious here for a second. I don't mean any disrespect to any of these companies. JJP figured it out. You know, if you want just fun pinball. Spooky figured it out. There's a lot of these games out there that are used that you can buy, right? Right. You know, there's games that don't have themes that are just fun pinball. That's great. But they're a lot less money. Right. You know, you can buy your firepower or your laser war or, you know, stuff from the 80s and 90s that are good fun. and they only cost a fraction of the price. Yep. But now we want flashy games with big themes. You know, and even though Ian doesn't want Avengers, he at least recognizes that that's a huge theme. It'll sell. Yeah, and people are going to buy it. Sure, absolutely. You sheep. Yeah. Wear a mask and buy Avengers. Too soon. Too soon. You know what I mean? True stuff. If you had a little Spider-Man, it's mine. It's in the house. Kathleen, it's coming home. This guy knows me. Take note, podcast listeners, I'm pointing to Ian right now. He knows me. This is what we do. But it's true. It's very true. So, anyways. That is my take on the news. What else is in news? Do we have anything good in news today? You were in charge of notes. I know. Well, that was the end of my roundup for the week, I guess. That was the week, buddy. Yeah, that was the week. Nothing else that I know of. What about American Pinball? What are they doing? Brian Cosner, what's going on with American Pinball? Our correspondent, Brian Cosner. Our unofficial correspondent. Someone I just pulled right out of my ass. Let's see here. Brian Cosner, what's going on with American Pinball? Because they release Hot Wheels, they're shipping them? Mm-hmm. Oh, Zach Many is on. I don't know what Zach Many is talking about. Billy Y.J., I've seen way too fucking much of Drew, trust me. oh zach i love you yeah trust me all right so that's news that's news let's let's move on what do we got next uh remember yeah we got a like i said this guy has probably been overlooked for too many weeks let's get into the tribe member shit let's let's induct this guy let's make it happen let's do this right now it's happening Thank you, sir. May I have another? Poor Man's Pinball Tribe. Thank you, sir. May I have another? Poor Man's Pinball Tribe. Thank you, sir. May I have another? Poor Man's Pinball Tribe. Wait, no! Yeah! All right, let's take a look at our updated tribe list. So last week we inducted Therese Edwards. She gave us a little bit of follow-up to what we said about her. That wasn't her IPFA, IFPA ranking. That was her number. That's how old school she is. She was there in the beginning. Oh, that's awesome. Which is actually kind of cool. Yeah, super cool. Super cool thing. So she was inducted into the tribe, and she can hang with the big boys and girls. She was posting all kinds of crazy stuff this week. I love it. That woman, I tell you. She was giving us all kinds of dad jokes and fun stuff, and she was keeping up with Josh Mudd, which is hard to do. Can't do that. I can't do it. No. She did it. No. So, Tish, we're glad to have you in the tribe. We love you. Super awesome. So, this new tribe member, let's go into it. He was one of the originals that sent us our first piece of fan mail, actually. He did. Like I said, he's- Like, literal. Yes. Like, in the mail. In the mail, in a box. We open it up. I have it right here next to me. Here, let me pull it out. He sent us this, what, like six months ago, eight months ago? This was, we still joke about the rock kit. So this particular gentleman sent us the poor man's pinball rock kit. It's got some pinball parts. It's got some rocks. It's got booze. Rocks. It has a $20 bill in there. Some money in case we need it. Which we do. Which we do. Some zip ties in the back, you know. This is the poor man's toolkit. This is what built Laser War. That's a true story. We used lots of rocks on it. Then we fast forward a little bit, and this guy, we start texting, and he says, hey, I'm going to be in Milwaukee. Let's hang out. So I'm like, sure. So he comes out. uh ian couldn't make it that day but him and i went out we played pinball for several hours and uh got got kind of drunk and had a good time and then uh we text frequently now and then we will show you some other stuff after this that he has sent us since but uh that whole box yeah that's there's some good stuff but without further ado welcome to the tribe matt michaels Matt, you have made it You've been a part of The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast For 18 months You have been part of the family Since the beginning So he likes anything he can put a corn in Makes trash mods We're going to show you a little bit of his trash mods Trash mods LLC He's the creator And the inventor of the Rock Kit Rock Tools LLC Currently owns a Rocky and Bullwinkle But his favorite machine he currently owns is a Twilight Zone. He's not on Spacebook. His word is not mine, so not on Facebook. But regardless, we're going to throw him on the list. Matt Michaels, congratulations, my man. And we appreciate you, brother. Not on Spacebook. I love that. Not on Spacebook. No. Like I said, him and I just text. Yeah, he's not a Facebook guy, which is fine. But, yeah, he doesn't live far. He's in Illinois, so he's like an hour, hour and a half away. So welcome to the tribe. Don't we have an applause button for that? There's things going on here. Somewhere. Oh, there you go. You know what, Michaels? You are officially tribe member number 32 in the poor man's pinball tribe. We will send you. You know what? Now you have to be on Facebook. Uh-oh. You have to get on, man, because that is one. It's not a pillar, but that's a requirement. Flipping out pinball. You want a new stern? Boom, we have you covered. Want a new Chicago Gaming Company remake? Boom, we have you covered. You want a brand new Shiny from JJP? Guess what? Boom, we have you covered again. P3 Multimorphic? We can do that too. We got mods, shaker motors, even some used pinball inventory. Flip N Out Pinball also sells the Stair Climbing Escalera Hand Truck. Email Zach at Flip N Out Pinball or call or text 812-457-9711. Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. flip letter n out pinball all right thank you again for our sponsor flipping out pinball zach we love you brother all right so that was our tribe induction so what else we got today drew anything fun uh no i i think we should get to our mailbag and and show some of these people So, what... Eddie! Malcolm! All right. Quick with the buttons today. That's all right. All right, Drew. So, do you want me to go get this box here? Get the box. So, I'm going to set this up a little bit. So, we have been sent, I want to say, six to ten packages over the last year. People say, hey, can I have your address? Some stuff is usable. Some stuff is pure junk. Some stuff is awesome. But it's all really interesting. And you know what? We're going to show this to you guys today because this is the kind of stuff that people send us. Drew, I don't know where we're starting with this stuff. Should I just start pulling shit out of here? Just start pulling it out. We'll talk as we go. You know who sent us half this crap? Sort of. Hey, we fuck it up. We fuck it up. Yeah. Yeah, so I do apologize if I get a couple of these wrong, because like I said, literally there were 10 packages. This is Pete Quint's photo, because he decided to send us a photo of himself. So that was in a package. So, Pete, we love you, brother. Throw that right there. Whatever, Pete. Sure. This is over the hill Dick Barbell for your boners. And that was either Matt Michaels or... It goes right on your penis, and you are able to lift your boner. Or Andrew Payne. There's some letters in here, too. Okay. Maybe he's talking about the dick boner thing. So... Yep, hang on. No, I got it. Yep. Ian and Drew, at the time of this letter, I am the newest tribe member number 29. This is Andrew Payne. As a thank you for acceptance to the highly regarded Poor Man's Tribe, I'm sending you this care package of awesome shit. Items and clothes. A brand new book of dad jokes. Here it is. There it is. We got some dad jokes here. Cigars. Thank you, Andrew. So Ian and I will be smoking these. Some awesome cigars. Bold yet smooth. Mouth-watering hot pepper flakes. They will truly fuck you up. So he sent us a couple packages of those. I got some at my house. Jurassic Park decals, which I kept those at my house because of my Jurassic Park. Love it. Yep, he doesn't get it. Oh, and the wiener weight. Thank you, Andrew Payne, for our wiener weight. That was the, this. This is the wiener weight. So we might use this on air. We haven't decided yet. I don't know if Facebook will let us, but we'll see. We'll see what happens. Hang on, this is the best part. Are you ready for this, Ian? I hereby swear to honor the poor man's pillars and will use my membership in the betterment of both the club and pinball hobby. Thanks again, Andrew Payne, number 29. So tribe member number 29, Andrew Payne, Thank you so much for the stuff. Now on to Matt Michaels' stuff, the tribe member number 32 for the day here. So I'm going to set this up a little bit. Matt Michaels texted me and said, hey, I'm starting to make mods for pinball machines. And I said, oh, that's cool. And he said, hey, can I send you some mods for Jurassic Park and Oktoberfest? I said, yeah, that's awesome. So this package comes to our house. And this is what I see in here. Yeah, see, Ian hasn't seen these yet. So I'm going to set this off here, okay? Yeah, for the listeners. Yeah. So Andrew Payne sends me this pretty large box, okay? It's a priority mail, one of, like, the medium size. See, Ian's cracking up. He hasn't seen these yet. That is so stupid. Awesome. So Matt says I going to send you these mods And I said cool So I open up this box and there these remember the plastic dinosaurs when you were kids like the little small ones, and literally speaker wire with lights, okay, like actual speaker wire, not regular wire, not whatever. And I open this up, and I'm like, what the hell is going on? Then he sent Ian an Oktoberfest Stein, which I think they're playing rugby or soccer on there, right? It looks like football. Football? Yeah. And it lights up, and more speaker wire. So I'm like, this can't be serious. Like, does he think these are real mods? And then, when I'm, like, I'm literally considering this, and I'm like, yeah, these are terrible. And then he texts me, and he's like, did you get the joke? And I'm like, yeah. So what did he explain to me, just so everyone gets the joke? He was restoring, like, an arcade cabinet, from what I understand. and someone actually used speaker wire for like these lights. So that was the joke. But at first I'm like, oh, these are terrible mods because it's literally speaker wires, crappy little plastic dinosaurs. These dinosaurs are humping. Yes. So Matt Michaels, thanks for our mods. I'm not putting this on Jurassic Park. Shit will start on fire. Yeah, my mods are shitty. Yeah, there's literally two dinosaurs humping each other. There's enough speaker wire here. Oh, there's like 20 feet of speaker wire. So, anyways, for you guys watching at home, you can kind of see this shit. Pretty awesome stuff. More speaker wire. Yeah, more speaker wire with light bulbs on them. So, Matt Michaels, good joke. And then we got hot sauce from Andrew Payne. He loves the hot stuff. Sends us the pepper flakes, sends us some really super hot stuff. Read the front of that. There's, like, some serious shit in there. It says, fire hot sauce made with habanero and jalapeno peppers with a blazing kick of dried superhots. Fire. And then it's like there's no ingredient list. That was it. That was the whole bottle. So what I'm going to leave you listeners with. It is the shape of the red that will come out of my ass later. What I'm going to leave you listeners with is almost all of our tribe members have sent us something. It's not required. Nor do we need it. But all of our tribe members have sent us something. I'm just kidding. It's not the fifth pillar. No, we're joking. It is not the fifth pillar. You do not need to send us stuff. But if you want to send us junk, we will take your junk. I think we've got to go to chat because I would love to hear what people are saying about this fucking shit show. Here, take your dick bar belt. Yeah, it's the dick weight. There we go. There we go. This is like a freaking episode of John's Arcade. All right. So here we go. Let's go to chat here. Oh, man. Yep. It has begun. It has begun. Welcome, Guy Not Here. They need player cards for all of us. Let's see. Daniel Donald, is he an official dildo? Who's that? I'm assuming Matt Michaels Yeah, what the hell Jonathan Hall, poor man's pinball podcast rookie card What about a fail bag? Well, I think we just did that We did Let's see, it's a human head What's in the box? Big box of dildos I now have Drew's address Jonathan Hall I need that for hard body Oh, the dick weight I have some hander pants I can sell hander pants hander pants i can sell i don't know what that is lee thanks andrew uh definitely for hard body yes uh the dick weights wait we're supposed to send gifts after we're admitted in sean it's okay you can send them whenever yep sean we will take your shit dare you to eat the pepper flakes jonathan hall no we won't do that today but we might do that in a future episode joseph hood wiener weight looks awfully big i don't know if that's a compliment or i should be embarrassed uh so uh he sent you guys one wiener weight to share and share we shall well you know what hang on hang on before exactly i'm gonna take this one if my wife was here right now she would say well these two touch wieners all the time so they'll just share yeah see he says no but you know shaking my head's people are listening this is crazy all right eat the paper flakes on air please josh mudd all right we should we should do a hot one like chicken Hot, my, all right, Pipper Flakes. You know what? Ian, we could do a- Talk about a shit show. Ah, fuck, I got to send these guys something now. No, you don't, Ari. Yeah, you do. Joseph Hood, just don't use the wiener weight on there. Sorry, my power just went out. I have to go conserve foam battery. All right, Brian. All right, let me finish this last piece. Zoom in, motherfuckers. What do you want to see, Daniel Donald? Let me know. It's just- Just stuff. I'm not running into this thing. Stein Topper, yeah. Fucking hilarious. Oh, shit, it's hot. Take a shot. Oh, I don't know. Can I read one piece of actual mail, though, as long as we're doing this? Mailbag. Boys, John Cosson, how you doing, sir? All right. Yeah, my butthole is still on fire, Daniel Donald. So Andrew Payne must have sent that hot sauce out to a bunch of people. Let's see here. Eat the sauce, monkeys. Who said that? That would be Joseph Hood. Oh, man. Let's see here. Take the hot sauce shot on the air, Josh Mudd. No. Hey, guys. Hey, Rachel. Rachel's here. Hey, Rachel. Just heading into the dick weights. Yeah. Rachel comes in. She's like, dick weights? Rachel's like, oh, this is fucking crazy. Heterosexual life mates. Yes, you better believe it, Rachel. Drew's spotting Ian. Hey, man, you got a spot? Oh. That's messed up. Well, I do the hot sauce before I do the barbells, dude. So cock push-ups, yep. I'm hoping to get Google Wiener Weights. I'm hopping off to Google Wiener Weights. I'll be right back. So we switched from dildos last week to Wiener Weights. Wiener Weights. This is our own fault. All right. Truly. You want to take a little bit of this? I guess so. Let's do it. We'll do it. We'll do the hot sauce. Okay. Before we do that, though, so we did get one mailbag again from our friend down under, Jesse J. she says Dr. John has added again mood lining as pinball friendship cupid he mentioned that I had to mention on episode 69 because we talked about her last episode damn you guys are so lovely oh that's sweet right we're lovely thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement it's a whole new world for me and I'm glad people out there are enjoying the journey and hearing Ryan get smoked on air Ryan C let's be honest at the biggest draw card right I'm loving diving into your show and looking forward to hearing more. Take care, legends. Jesse J. Legends. Exactly. So, Jesse J., we love hearing from you on the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. We would love for you to do a segment with us sometime, so reach out to us. Jesse J., we love your stuff. Keep sending us notes and keep doing what you're doing because you are doing great stuff over there. You're way better than Dr. John and the other Australians, so keep it up. Whatever that guy's name is. C. Ryan? Yeah, C. Ryan. C. Diff? I don't know. see def so jesse j thank you thank you jesse all right let's see what else we got here uh sean f i'm watching fox city pinball stream on twitch he's discussing teenage mutant turtle uh production issues someone in the comment section types yeah drew is having a problem on his how does it feel to be so widely recognized in the pinball industry that your last name is not even necessary sean how do you feel drew that you're everyone knows you as drew so anyone that says hey Drew's boner is broken they know exactly who you are I actually feel good about that you should feel good about that good job man congratulations people know you so in the pinball world I'm just Drew fucking legends Jesse J we're lovely and we're legends we're fucking legends I was going to do some bad Australian accent but I didn't want to because I've already offended so many people that makes you a legend mate wow See, I was thinking about that. Smells like a bog in here. Wow. No, I feel good about that. Yeah. Good. He's genuinely shocked. Yes. Because there's 100 Ians in here, apparently. Well, I don't have a turtle, so when they're talking, you know, if they were going to talk about, like, dick weights, they're going to bring up Ian, you know, but turtles, that's you. Is that a badge of honor? That's you. All right, we're going to try this. So we're going to do the fire hot sauce. This is the fire hot sauce channel. What just happened? Why not? Okay. We're fucking legends. We got cocktails to wash it down. Sure. All right. Well, we're going to make this quick anyway because we're almost over, right? We're done. We got nothing else because that's the show. That's it. Before I do this, I also want to mention Silver Ball Swag. So get your shit today. Brand new shirts. Brian Holderman. Totally rad. Super, super awesome shirt. I love my shirt. You can buy these cool hats. That's me right there. We actually now just got this shirt in navy blue. Oh, and the hat. So the hat's pretty badass. So Silver Ball Swag, everything helps us to recoup our costs to bring all of this action to you guys. We know it's great content that people adore. I don't think I've ever seen Dick Barbells on any other podcast. We're doing a lot of firsts here. We get so many emails from Dennis Creasel. It is unbelievable. Yeah, tell that guy to leave us alone. He loves us. Zach, can you tell Dennis just to email us? Because I would just love to hear from him. Seriously, I mean that. Just be like, hey, I know about your show, but I don't listen to it. That would be a Dennis Creswell statement. I would be fine with that. Because we're not his style, but that's okay. He did wish me a happy birthday. Did he? He did. Thanks, Dennis. No, he's one of those people I enjoy listening to him so much, and I'm just like, but I know he doesn't listen to us. I'm positive of that. Oh, guaranteed. teeth what's the opposite of dick weights um uh kegels what i'm just thinking i'm really thinking here i don't know i'm picturing things i shouldn't be picturing right now rachel you're screwing me all up lady opposite of dick weights what yeah that's like a conundrum yeah i don't know i was like drew bouvert who's that he is good at the right hand shaking motion did i do a right hand shaking motion i don't know whatever shake weight uh hey buttholes uh pete hey man you uh you're logged on as the poor man spinball podcast so log back on as pete so we can see your ass so here we go ready we're gonna try some of this fire hot sauce how much should we do guys that's the problem you got get your shot glasses out. I'm not doing a full shot. I understand that, but just a few drops. I think that's all you need. Unless shit comes out like a hose. Maybe dump some in there. There you go. We'll use the little shot glass, guys. No, we're not doing two ounces of hot sauce. I might die. Just shake a little in there. Oh, my God. Oh, you're going to die. There's no way. I'm just going to ready. It's going to be fucking weird. Oh, yeah, I was shaking the bottle. Yeah, I got it, Dr. John. Yeah, I am good at the shaking motion. You're right. What is happening here? Oh, Jesus Christ on a stick. That's good flavor. Keep going. Go, motherfucker. Don't wait for me. Oh, Jesus. Just do it. It's good for you. I like chicken wings. But usually there's a chicken wing. Do it. More, more, more, more. That's good. That's what I got. Well, I'm dying tonight. It gets hotter. Mother fuck. We're doing hot ones. The boost does not help. Welcome to the stupidest show on the internet. Ladies and gentlemen, do not adjust your screen Because Drew's face is fucking red as shit. Yeah, it's always red. Yeah, I'm going to die. You know what? That would be fucking delicious on some hot wings. But without hot wings, it's terrible. It's a good flavor. No, it's a really good flavor. I love spicy stuff. That's hot. Should have gotten my acid reflex pills. All right. So instead of breathing heavy into the mic. Oh, my God. This is so stupid. We'll do this with chicken wings next time. All right. Well, again, thank you for listening to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Oh, my God. Thank you. Please like us on Facebook. Send us an email at poormanspinball at gmail.com. Check on us tomorrow. Make sure we're still alive. Hey, guys, if you want to watch us live, If you want to see this stupid shit live, just like us on the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast on Facebook. That way you will get notified when we go live on Monday at 830. Other than that, I hope you assholes are doing great, and we love you. Drew, you want to say bye before we end this shit? Love you guys. Josh, Mike can go to fucking hell. Yep. Damn you for talking me into this. Ryan, you just texted me, do I have to bring hot sauce on Thursday now? Yes, you do. You pick up the game. Who is that? Ryan Utech, he's picking up stars this week. Ryan, you motherfucker. Bring me some hot sauce. I love some hot sauce. Josh Seeker. Josh is here. Hi, Josh. Love you, brother. Yeah, it's really hot. Thank you, Andrew Payne, for ruining my life. High quality. It is. No, the taste is awesome. It's really fucking hot. Woo. All right. I'm feeling better now. I'm feeling better. But yeah. Oh, no, it's not. It's coming back. It's coming back. So, yep, Ryan, bring me some hot sauce. I love hot sauce. I put that shit on everything, like the old lady. All right. Well, cool. Thanks, guys. Yep. Thank you very much. Again, check out Flip N Out Pinball and our sponsors. Other than that, we love you. You guys take care and have a good night. We'll see you next week. See you, guys. 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