# Stream 557: GOTG (Stern) PRO

**Source:** Don't Panic Flip  
**Type:** video  
**Published:** 2022-06-18  
**Duration:** 145m 18s  
**Beat:** Pinball

**URL:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeE77zt2Vts

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## Analysis

Don't Panic Flip Stream 557 is a casual, off-topic heavy livestream featuring George and remote guests (iSkiDo, Surreal, Joe Hills) discussing drink recipes, software development concepts (MVP, MVD, POC), pop culture trends, and minimal pinball content despite the title mentioning Guardians of the Galaxy Pro. The stream is characterized by digression, banter, and community interaction rather than substantive pinball analysis or gameplay.

### Key Claims

- [HIGH] Stream host George mentions Guardians of the Galaxy is prepped to be played this evening — _George: 'We've got Guardians of the Galaxy prepped to actually be played this evening.'_
- [HIGH] A school closure was announced with minimal notice due to a local election — _George discusses receiving last-minute school closure notification from school board for election day_
- [MEDIUM] Mullets are making a comeback in popularity — _Surreal states: 'Apparently the mullet is coming back. It is. It is coming back with a vengeance.' Chat member Nitrog confirms: 'It never left Australia.'_
- [LOW] An internal Facebook document was leaked revealing the company doesn't know what happens to user data — _Joe Hills: 'I just saw the article that came out today where somebody... an internal document at Facebook was released where they admitted that they actually don't know what happens to our data at all.'_

### Notable Quotes

> "We've got Guardians of the Galaxy prepped to actually be played this evening."
> — **George**, early in stream
> _Statement of intent to play/stream GOTG Pro, though actual gameplay does not appear to occur in transcript_

> "How could you do this? How could you do this? Stupid. Traitorous."
> — **George**, during school closure discussion
> _Humorous overreaction to surprise school closure announcement; illustrates his comedic style_

> "Minimum Viable Demonstration... what's the smallest amount of stuff that you have to show to get people to take out their wallet?"
> — **Surreal**, software development section
> _Defines MVD concept that becomes recurring discussion topic_

> "POC are making our life hard. They make everyone's life hard because the POC... let's take out all of the things that make life difficult."
> — **Nitrog (chat)**, late in technical discussion
> _Honest industry perspective on proof-of-concept-to-production pipeline problems_

> "I just don't get it. Not only that, I just saw the article that came out today... an internal document at Facebook was released where they admitted that they actually don't know what happens to our data at all."
> — **Joe Hills**, final segment
> _Unverified claim about Facebook leak; stated casually without source_

### Entities

| Name | Type | Context |
|------|------|---------|
| George | person | Host of Don't Panic Flip stream; facilitates conversation, makes drinks, drives commentary |
| Joe Hills | person | Remote guest; active on Twitter; involved in pinball/gaming community; from Nashville area |
| iSkiDo | person | Remote guest streamer; drinking Monster Zero Ultra and vodka; participates in banter |
| Surreal | person | Remote guest; hardware/software developer; discusses POC/MVP/MVD concepts; working on gaming hardware with Manu |
| Janelle | person | Physical guest in studio; appears to be in chat or observing |
| Sammy Grant Higgins | person | Streamer/content creator; George's notable Twitter follow; was streaming earlier in evening; discusses baseball/Giants |
| Don't Panic Flip | organization | Twitch streaming channel hosted by George; Stream 557 discussed here |
| Pinball Network | organization | Multi-streamer Twitch channel; raided Don't Panic Flip with 13 viewers; includes Frisco Pinball |
| Frisco Pinball | person | Part of Pinball Network; was streaming Godzilla content earlier in evening |
| Guardians of the Galaxy Pro | game | Stern pinball game mentioned as being 'prepped' for play on stream, but no actual gameplay covered in transcript |
| Empress Gin | product | Specialty gin with indigo color that turns fuchsia when mixed with tonic; featured in drink-making segment |
| Abbey Brewing | company | Nashville-based brewery; Joe Hills mentions '44' porter from this brewery |
| Aslan Beer Company | company | Beer manufacturer; produces How Now Brown Cow milk stout |
| Facebook | company | Social media platform discussed as baffling popularity; Joe Hills mentions internal document leak claim regarding user data handling |
| Twitter | company | Social media platform; George notes Joe Hills is most active person he follows; chat member expresses confusion about its popularity |

### Topics

- **Primary:** Gin cocktails and specialty spirits (Empress Gin color-change demo), Software development terminology (MVP, MVD, POC, DB, SIB, PV), Proof-of-concept vs production pipeline (technical debt, corner-cutting)
- **Secondary:** Pop culture trends (mullets, Kardashians, Facebook, Twitter popularity), Twitch streaming community and cross-promotion (raids, followers, channel plugs), Guest introductions and drink preferences, School closures and event-driven scheduling
- **Mentioned:** Guardians of the Galaxy Stern pinball machine

### Sentiment

**Positive** (0.75) — Stream maintains lighthearted, friendly atmosphere throughout. Humor and camaraderie among guests despite tangential nature. Mild frustration expressed about Facebook/Twitter's continued existence and school closure mismanagement, but overall tone is comedic rather than angry. No pinball-specific controversy or negativity.

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## Transcript

 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And how do we enable mature content? Good evening, everyone. My name is George, and this show is Joe Panic Flip. How is everyone doing tonight? Muria, welcome to the stream. Man, we have an evening planned. And by evening, I mean we've got guests. We've got two remote guests on the call right now. First, we have the esteemed, wonderful streamer that goes by the name iSkiDo. iSkiDo, how are you doing this evening? I'm quite lovely, thank you. You are quite lovely. I like that. And our second remote participant is Surreal underscore seven. Surreal, how are you on this most auspicious of Monday evenings? I am super fantastic, thanks. uh-oh what is that is somebody else joining remotely as well through through through you cereal no oh man something else just came well hey awesome and that was yeah i don't know what that was either that was weird control apparently yeah and then we also have a physical guest in house. We have Janelle with us this evening. Iron Fox, higher peanut, Nuria, welcome in from the chat side of things. We've got lights integrated. We've got Guardians of the Galaxy prepped to actually be played this evening. But before we can get started, I need to know, Surreal and IceKidoo, what are you gentlemen drinking right now? Go ahead. At the exact present, I am drinking a Monster Zero Ultra. But momentarily, I'm going to have, what, vodka with either blueberry Waterloo or black cherry Waterloo. For a second, I thought you were going to say vodka with Pepsi, and I was going to give you a hard time. But nope, I'm good with either of those as long as it's not Pepsi. Do they still make Pepsi? Technically, I think Pepsi is still being made. Pinball Princess Jillian, welcome to the stream. And Ice Ski-Doo, what are you drinking this evening? I'm just drinking no sugar root beer. Ooh. Man, root beer sounds amazing right now. I could definitely get behind root beer. Hey, first question is... I got to pause. Do you want to do the root beer? Ice Ski-Doo, say root beer. Ice Ski-Doo, say root beer. Yes. I say root. That was going to be my question. Is it root or root beer? I say root. You say root. I say root. Okay, cool. Suriel and I both say root. I mean, that's like a root is something in the road that you carve. You carve a root in the road? A rut. Oh, like a route? A rut. Oh, like a rut. Okay. Okay. Adding a sound in there. Jcar2A how now brown cow milk stout over here ooh that sounds amazing how now brown cow milk stout yeah from Aslan Beer Company mind you and it looks like Higher Peanut has an Oxford Landing Chardonnay which sounds so much fancier than it is I even have to say that a little bit fancier ooh and that's a coffee and maple stout and it's made from it's funny because root beer and a root. I actually pronounce those differently even though they reference the same thing. There's, yeah, obviously there's something messed up with how I pronounce words. What's the difference between root beer and sarsaparilla? What's the difference between what? Root beer and sarsaparilla. That is an excellent question. Does anybody know the answer to that? I don't. Sarsaparilla only exists in Hanna-Barbera cartoons. You can't, no, no, no, you can't order sarsaparilla. It's available. Haven't we ordered it in New Orleans? Yeah, New Orleans. There's a place up in the mountains on the way up to Winter Park. There's a bar that you can go to in Idaho Springs. Is that the name of that city? I think so. Something like that. Yeah, you can do Idaho Springs, and they have sarsaparilla there. What just happened? Oh, my God. Joe Hill raiding with a party of 244 beautiful individuals. welcome Joe Hills and all of those wonderful people rating we have so many followers right now everyone thank you very much my hat's off to oh you can't see the hat's off I actually am wearing a hat howdy George Joe Hills right here oh my god and Joe Hills is here welcome did you say hi howdy yes I think so hi QDL Would you like a drink? Yeah, I was just about to say, so we have something special set up this evening, but before we start, we were just asking people what they were drinking. Joe Hills, what do you got? Right now, my glass is empty, but I'm going to head down to the fridge and grab a local Nashville porter called the 44 from Black Abbey Brewing. Oh my gosh, that sounds fantastic. We're going to follow you. And in following, check this out. You know what? We have this set up. I'll bet you anything it's all timed out. No, look at that. All right, we are ready to make some drinks. Do you guys want to go with us to go make some drinks as well? We'll all go do the drink making thing. Yes, we would. All right, let's do it. Are we starting off with GMTs this evening? Do you want GMTs? Yes. Special flavor G&T? Special flavoring sounds fantastic. Let's do that. All right. Ooh, that's sticky. That is sticky. So what are you thinking? Are you thinking we have peach, we have agave, we have lime, we have a smidgen of grenadine. Okay. You know I'm going to do lavender. Yeah, you go ahead and do your lavender. Do we have any of the quadruple sec by any chance? We do not. Oh, we're all out of quadruple sec. Do you have any? What? It goes past triple? No, that is a joke from Dice, who, while back, brought out the ideas like triple sec. I feel like you're holding yourself back. Why don't we try quadruple sec? And that is just what I call it now. Would you prefer grenadine? Yeah, if you don't mind, I'll do the grenadine. And at the same time, we can watch this awesome color change happen with the Empress Gin. Now, we'll show it to this camera over here. If you are unfamiliar with Empress Gin, it is so beautiful, and it's also like a deep indigo color. But watch what happens when we mix it with... I pulled out cups. Oh, I'm out of ice. that's going to make it really difficult to make very cold drinks. Thankfully, the tonic is really cold. Sorry, everyone. I forgot about ice. These drinks are going to be less than stellar. I would have brought ice. Here, we can... Who do you call to bring ice? Who do you call to bring ice? Well, there's no Ghostbusters hotline for ice. Where's Bumper? Yeah, that's not well thought out. Can you go to your neighbor's house and borrow a cup of ice? Well, we would need a lot more than a cup. I feel like there's an entire plot line in Frozen about a guy whose whole job it is to deliver ice. Is that something we've given up on as a culture? Oh, here we go. Here we go. Oh, awesome. We have plastic ice cubes. We can use those. Also, I love that, by the way. It wasn't Hans, because Hans is the bad guy. Sorry, spoilers for anyone who hasn't watched it. Kristoff was the good guy. We're just going to assume that those have been cleaned at some point in the past couple of years and are very... I obviously clean those frequently, right? A strobe of boiling water for 20 minutes. That'll be fine. That'll be fine. Yeah. I wish you all could see Jay-Z's face right now. We could do a little bit of that. It's fine. It's fine. Okay. I'm not a germaphobe. Now, here is the magic. Watch. We've got this, like, indigo. It's blue with, like, a hint of purple, right? And then we've got the Schweppes tonic water. Schweppes! And we're going to put that in there and watch what happens. There we go. Now we've got, I don't know if the camera on this phone really grabs the color as well as it should, but that right there turned kind of fuchsia. And I love that about the Empress Gin. And the Empress Gin tastes great. Quite lovely. I can watch it again over here. Ice tray. And there we go. Yeah, higher peanut has a good idea. You need like underlit, like black-white with the cups. Yes, because the water glows. Yeah, I could definitely get behind it more lighting in the kitchen. Yeah, it's cabbage water. Science, Nioria said. Thank you. Oh, man. Yeah, Mr. Lance, the gin is wonderful. Also, that's just the start because we can try this evening another. I've got like four different gins here, and we're going to go through all of them, I think. I'm going to switch this back over to this main. That's fine. We don't work or teach tomorrow. Did you add syrups? I did not actually I'm good without syrup on this first one you are obviously welcome to go lavender thank you for your permission oh knew it was coming so wait are your schools closed tomorrow too? no that's a weird coincidence no they are not are your schools closed? yeah so they had snow day and there's like this minor local election and so the school board was like why don't we just close it for election day okay yeah and so like it's not on the main school calendar or anything so you know there's like a million emails from the school don't bring your kid to school tomorrow because two weeks ago the school board decided this and i know you had no time to plan but don't bring your kid wow yeah that is that's not the kind of thing you can throw last second at adults who have jobs and need to plan weeks ahead of time. Well, you know, we're doing it live. It's natural. We'll fix it in post. How could you do this? How could you do this? Stupid. Traitorous. Okay. So, first things first. Pinball Princess Jillian asking if the Empress Gin is the Ryan Reynolds Gin. It's not. But we have. Yep, that's aviation. What just happened? Pinball Network just raided us with a party of 13. The Pinball Network, thank you for bringing 13 beautiful people over here. That's what that calls for. Me draining and handing the ball off to you immediately. I don't think I actually did anything. Yes, 746,000. That's difficult to do. I mean, don't worry. You'll get it right back. We'll see how things go here. Okay. I can't believe you threw away the slippers. Wow. I don't know how in-depth to go in that description there. Pinball Network, that was Frisco Pinball. Frisco, how was the stream, and what were you streaming this evening? And while we're waiting for Frisco to respond over there, Footronic, good evening. Jordan, how the heck are you doing? it was god villa time and the stream went great really good to hear also everyone uh if you are not already following we've got two people we've got to talk about right now if you're not already following where's my chatting view uh oh my gosh joe hills who rated us earlier a i'd be surprised that probably is 98 of the people in this chat right now but if you are not already following Joe Hills, please click the name, click the follow button on Twitch, check him out on Twitter. Super active. You are, by the way, Joe, the single most active person on Twitter that I actually follow and read messages of. I'm not normally a Twitter person, but you're very enjoyable to follow. You and Sammy Higgins, I think, are my two big follows. Oh, thank you. And I see Sammy just came in. Hey, Sammy. Been here a while. Just kind of lurking. Hi. Oh, hi. and then while we're at it we also just got raided by I did not even realize that no no no no no no no no no no Frisco Pinball from the Pinball Network so check out twitch.tv slash pinball network give them a follow happen to be a part of it and that was a raid from Frisco we have multiple streamers on that channel as well so uh a frisco appreciate it and uh and definitely go check out uh the pinball network as well and sammy how the heck are you doing how was the evening and uh i know we just talked a few minutes ago about baseball but uh how were the giants uh evening was okay giants are struggling but that's what happens when everybody has covid but otherwise good okay good to hear and you were streaming also the crafts of minds earlier this evening. How did that go? It went really well. It was very relaxing. We made some very pretty things. Awesome. Now, I was multitasking. I love that, by the way, as a term in business now. Like, rather than not giving something your full attention, you were multitasking as you were working on something else. In Twitch, I feel like we call it lurking. But you were talking about designing and building something and it involved a lot of plants. Like what was the overall design or aesthetics that you were working on? So it's like an outdoor storage area and it's just like a grove of trees that's really pretty and kind of like enchanted. It's just for the prettiness. Okay. Going for aesthetically pleasing. Got it. Yes. That's you. Cool. You know, George, I think we could bring in even more of a business term here. Like maybe instead of, you know, not focusing, we could say like I was aggressively over-synergizing. Oh, man, I like that. I like that a lot. Aggressively over-synergizing. Okay. hmm that actually reminds me of another acronym I got recently I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar with the concept of minimum viable product which is an MVP yep yep well um I was talking about a I'm sorry painfully so uh oh nice thank you so much for the shout out Okay, Devon Crates, MVP is the depressing reality. Yeah, okay, so we have a lot of developers in there. So here's the thing is that MVP is this concept of, like, what's the least amount of work we can do to get a product out the door? And the problem is that that can sometimes be too much product. Like, what's the next step down from product that relates to, like, even less effort? and we came up with an MVD and I'm using this in reality now which is Minimum Viable Demonstration. Oh, I love that and I'm going to use that. It is now my favorite acronym starting at like, it was about from 9 until 10.30 p.m. No, no, it was 8.30 until just drive when I started streaming last night. Yeah, which was right around 10.30, I think. So, I love it. That's one of my new favorite acronyms. MVP is all the rage. MVD, the classic vaporware investment scam. Have you worked in the hardware development space? I have not. Yes. Why do you ask? Yeah, so there's, like, multiple stages of developing a piece of hardware. And every stage has, like, an acronym. And one of the first stages is a DB, and it's a design build, right? So, like, does the design work, right? It's just, like, something. You threw something together. Does the design work? Does the defense's case hold water? Yes. And then after that, then there is the SI build, and that's called the system integration. And so after the design building, it goes through all the iterations of testing. can you integrate other systems into that design and will it function, right? Okay, but does it blend? Will all the different systems function together? And then after that is the PV phase, and that is product validation. So after, and each of these has several iterations of testing and making sure that everything works, right? And so after the system integration, then you have product validation. And that's basically making sure, like, the hardware functions, right? You have a viable product. Okay. And then after the PD phase, then you have the MD, and that is market validation. And that is, can this thing be mass produced without errors? And all of these go out pre-production to different areas of a large business to make sure that it works. But it all starts with the design build, which is, does this hunk of junk function? Okay. Can you build something? Here's an idea. Just like your MBB. Are we talking S-E-L-C? I have no idea what S-E-L-C is, Dr. Curly Tech. Software Development Lifecycle? Oh. Yeah, I'm talking computer hardware. Is this medical or government? Princess Jillian, this is tech. Hardware. Hardware. Tech. I'm this online game from Jackbox. Oh, my God. The OG version of Jackbox games, has anyone ever played the non-online version from the mid-'90s? What non-online version? Yeah, it was fantastic. It was great. It was just called... Jackbox. It was just called Jackbox, yeah. You don't know Jack. Thank you. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah. I remember that. Yes. Oh, my gosh. It probably describes a bunch of Steam or the iCast games. Yep. What? Oh. Have we accidentally redeveloped the concept of a proof of concept? Yep. Okay. We're just going in circles. Well, okay. No, no, no. That's a really good question. What's the difference then between, well, I mean, minimum viable product and proof of concept are very different. But when we say something like minimum viable demonstrations, how is that different from a proof of concept? Yeah, that sounds to me like the proof is, you know, we're proving it in the demonstration. Yes. What's the smallest amount of stuff that you have to show to get people to take out their wallet? Yes. That's what it is. That is exactly it. And for kind of, oh, by the way, there's chat there, and there's also bigger chat over here, if it's easier. Okay, got it. And that's kind of it. Trying to get, like, internal buy-in on something is really what I feel like the MVD is going for. Like, nobody wants to put months of effort into something, but, like, can we, what do we actually have to do, and what can we just make a facade? And I want to give a really good example of this, which was, if you guys remember the concept of image maps from like the early 90s in software development? Is anyone else familiar with that concept? Yeah, they're mint maps, basically, for big, yes, that you can zoom in and out of them. Is that what you're talking about? Sure, you can zoom in and out, but it's basically like putting a drawing an area on a picture that you make a hyperlink. Like it's it's a it was just an old school way to to to to. And you can zoom in and zoom out and do other things with it. But that concept of an image map does still. Oh, those. Yeah. Devin Crates still exists in HTML. And it was one of those moments where where I got asked to do. it turns out once we came up with this acronym for MVD that I had been doing MVDs for a client for like six years now. Like that is all I do is MVDs get buy-in and then hand the idea off to another group to work on. And one of the MVDs I did was, uh, was the guy I was working with at the time's like, I don't actually need it to go do anything. I just need it to show a picture as though it had gone and done something. Is there a way that I could click like on this little spot of the picture and have it just change the background picture to make it look like it opened up a visualization display, it doesn't actually have to do anything. I'm like, oh, wow, that's the level of, oh, wow, we're not doing anything. There's no software to this. It's just, yeah, I don't know if the internet even does that kind of thing anymore. And sure enough, I checked it out. It is still there in the HTML5 specification to do an image map where you can draw a polygon or really define coordinates in a polygon and turn that into a hyperlink, which was a fun story about an MVD. Or as Joe, you were saying, is it really just a POC at that point? So going up to here. Oh, going back up. Dr. Curly Tech says, I hate that minimum viable product is MVP, which is also most valuable player. Yep, completely agree. Those things are the opposite. Well, POC means it is stable enough to live in. Okay, okay. I know for a fact, surreal, and I'm sure Joe at this point, how many POCs have you done that ended up in production? um on the current on the current project alone that i'm working on it's seven and counting yeah i've never worked in some place with a really formal production pipeline so i mean percentage wise like arguably a lot of what we were doing is kind of just like if it works it works you know i get that although i guess technically the pocs on my end are the the unit with wires all over the place that's sitting on my desk that my boss drives over to pick up on his way to the next demo just to show and then that ends up becoming the new hot thing that we have to put in production immediately nice sorry you were there's a little bit of iteration with that sorry I'm imagining it's a little bit different for you only because you're developing hardware your goal is likely to have I'm assuming the most recent awesome hotness I don't want to go too detailed into what you are actually working with but I know you do gaming stuff with Manu a bunch and I imagine it's something like that so a lot of that has to be very cutting edge How can we blow people's minds kind of thing? And to me, that is bleeding edge. We just came up with this yesterday. I'm going to show it to a customer tomorrow. And the salesperson, because this is what slimy salespeople do, is they make it sound like it's something they can have out in six months without issue. The reality is most of the time I'm sitting there thinking to myself, how has nobody done this yet? Because this is so stupid simple. This is not impressive at all. And yet there's a market. There's a niche. So I'm going to pause because I will. We are falling way behind on chat here. Yeah. Higher Penance says the one who makes the MVP is the MVP of the investors. Princess Jillian, Primball Princess Jillian says, as a manager type that deals with budget, some things are able to be capitalized through finance, but others are not. Wind Raider says how we can keep the stakeholders at bay and not have a deadline forced upon us. Wait, I need to say that a little bit differently. That's more of a frustration like, as a developer, how can we keep the stakeholders at bay and not have a deadline forced on us? Hmm. There we go. Now, it's like, you just imagine that on a video. Yeah. Well, it's weird. Surreal always shows us a way, but he's still responding every once in a while. If you call things better names, they're able to move the cost below the line. And then Dev and Craig, oh, those he was talking about, or they were talking about the map thingy. Oh, the image map, right, yeah. Dev and Craig says, I learned those in my web dev diploma. Dev diploma years ago? Hey, Dev and Craig, same thing. I remember having to do an image map. Smash. Good. 5G. Yeah. Right. Ice Cube says, please stand by for more pinball content after this brief nerd sidebar from George. Sorry for nerding out, everyone. Mr. Lance, image maps work really well for system design. Dr. Curlycheck says, no better proof of concept. Oh. Do you want to follow? No, I'm not. Yes, I did. No, that's a sub. Rest in peace, Gilbert Gottfried. Hey, that is Bombed 420. Thank you so much for that tier one sub. My hat's off to you, and thank you so much for being a subscriber for two months. Welcome to the Panic Room. Ad-free viewing for at least some amount of time. and it sounds like things are changing quite a bit on Twitch's side, but it's ad-free viewing for right now and access to cool emotes. Okay, well... Hey, Swoleto, welcome! Usually in operations, POC becomes the new production. Yeah, okay. You can tell who's actually worked in software, I feel like, because that's just... It's so common in the industry to be somebody and say, can you put this together? Does this work? and it just becomes the product and now you're supporting something that yes because like can you prove this works and i'm like uh yeah i'll throw something together on dev and then they like okay put it on staging so the client can see it works okay it on staging now I like okay great If it works on dev and staging you can push it to prod right And I like well it works for this very one specific instance We don't have, like, a system for the client to add or change things. It's all hard-coded. They're like, that's fine. Just hard-code whatever changes they request for the next six months. And I'm like, oh, that's more work for me. Arthur Pendragon subbing as well oh I'm I can't cut off Gilbert that's my bad, Arthur you're amazing thank you hi I hear you Joe and the company I work for I've seen many projects get pushed like that and also get tanked because there's zero market viability Well, so the thing is, though, nothing I was designing was ever a product. I was always designing things that were super custom for small businesses. And so it didn't matter if there was a market fit for anyone else. This business had already decided that they were paying us to design the custom functionality, if that makes sense. Yeah. So we had made our money. That we didn't have to prove it to a broader market. I think it's interesting how often contractors are brought in to, like, way after that point where the concept of market viability isn't there. I feel like, by the way, what you're describing is obviously very much a huge part of that process. but as someone who is almost, like I am habitually a contractor who's brought in to basically implement someone else's vision, and that concept is just kind of far, far removed. Or at least is decided on well beforehand, which I imagine, Joe, kind of like what you're describing there. No. If it was looked at even at all. Man, that felt really good for a second, though. So, Nitrog, I'm an SRE, and man, POC are making our life hard. They make everyone's life hard because the POC, it's, oh, you know, let's take out all of the things that make life difficult, like administration, user control, any kind of concept of, like, entitlements and security or even good general, like, software design. You know, it's just get it out the door as soon as possible. can you make this happen in a week and you cut all of these corners and then someone's like okay that's great we need these three things added and you add to it and it's just one of those it snowballs into something that was just poorly designed but it made its way into production and now you have amassed a ridiculous amount of technical debt just real quick i do want to point out that poc is an acronym that has multiple meetings and so you want to be real careful to say about what you say that might get clipped and used out of context, because I know you're talking about proof of concepts. How do you do? Just throwing that out there real quick. What? Dalton Pinball. Hey, Dalton Pinball. You too. What's that? Chugga-chugga-choo-choo. Oh, wow. Are we in a training? What? Level 169%. Nice. Hip-hop pipe dream? a hip-hop pipe train? We might have to... Can you break dance to us, George? I can do a hip-hop. I cannot break dance. I can show you a hip-hop routine. Ooh, she is a hip-hop instructor. I teach tomorrow, so I cannot get to snuggle tonight. I wish I had written a script that was counting acronyms in this chat. There's a lot of them. I want to see a building. Oh, no, I'm running out of time. Focus. Focus. Hi, Rapina says, I want to see a building built like POTs are pushed to profit. If this was Hup Challenge's stream, it'd be a heads-up challenge stream. All right, so I'm going backwards and make questions. Oh, yes, first question. You're going backwards, okay. Yep. I thought the first question is, what is an MVP? Well, that was organic. We just got there. That's what she said. What is something that is popular that baffles you? Let's go with Ice-Kiddy. Marius, let me have your question cut out with the flipper noise. Can you repeat it? Oh, sorry. The mic fell under my shirt. What is something that is popular that baffles you? Like skinny jeans, anime. By the way, the fact that it is popular is what's baffling. Wait, are either of those things popular? I'm worried now I don't know what is popular. Have you been to the hot topics lately? I'm going to say the Kardashians. I heard that bad. Yeah, yep. Fair. My other pen dragon says Pogs. Pogs have gotten really popular recently. Fliptronic is still on. Fliptronic was running a Pog tournament here just recently at MGC. Ice Ski-Doo, do you have anything? That was Ice Ski-Doo. Oh, wait. Surreal? Oh, the Kardashian. Yeah, Surreal. That's my short-term memory failing. I'm not certain that this is popular again yet, but I was having this conversation with my wife. Apparently the mullet is coming back. It is. It is coming back with a vengeance. That baffles the hell out of me. I guess Danny McBride is the sole responsibility for that. Like, it started out as, like, an ironic thing, and then it just, like, backflip into, um... Um, Nitrog says, uh, it never left Australia. Uh, there's a place that holds a mullet festival every year. It says that in the grave. Uh, are there pinch records of Jack Danger? About the mullet, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we both have a mullet. Yeah, my kid legit shaved the sides of his head and was rocking. It looked like a super wide mohawk, but very mullet-esque. So it's still party in the back, huh? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like Billy Ray Cyrus. Okay. Okay. This has been out of the loop, Mr. Lance. Did it just achy break your heart when you saw those? Yeah. Oh, Joe, what is popular that baffles you? You know, I was going to say Facebook. Like, I don't know how they're still hanging on. I'll get on board with that answer, too. That's a good one. I just don't get it. Not only that, I just saw the article that came out today where somebody, no, it wasn't a previous employee, it was an active employee. No, it was some hacked or somehow an internal document at Facebook was released where they admitted that they actually don't know what happens to our data at all. So there's... There was somebody higher up I was listening to on NPR at Facebook that they just said they don't care. Like, it's just so big. Like, they just, they don't care. They can't. I don't know which is worse. Like, they don't know or they don't care? Yeah. imaginary uh that sigma wait theta sigma welcome to the stream first chat says i'm baffled twitter is so possible i'm kind of in the same boat about twitter but yeah i don't i i don't know what to do or why facebook is is still still the way it is i'm in the same boat they've uh i've got an explanation. But, Danny, well, maybe before, hold on. I was in a business meeting where we talked about types of companies, tier one, two, and three companies, and companies that make themselves essential for other companies to operate. So, like, Microsoft is a tier three company, where you, like, other companies depend on Microsoft to function, right? many other companies. Like, it's just... Oh, you're talking about a pyramid scheme. No, not a pyramid scheme. Like... Does anybody want to do the office thing about where you draw? Continue, please. Sorry. Yes. A reverse funnel system? Yeah. It's just like... I know. Like, remember when we had the antitrust law? but Facebook has made itself by like doing the whole thing where like do you want to log into this thing by using Facebook has made itself indisposable by linking itself to so many other web services that they stay and so many other companies like I've gone to cancel my subscription to Facebook so many times that there are so many other things that I do that they're like, oh, do you have a Facebook account? Sorry, we use Facebook. That's how you need to get a hold of us. I mean, are you freaking kidding me? So, yeah, that's how. Gabby, what is popular that baffles you? Sorry, that was my answer. Mine would probably be fantasy sports because, like, I don't want to add, like, hours of work onto the thing that I watch for, like, entertainment and also add the depression of losing money on top of depression of your favorite sports team losing. So I just don't see the appeal. I read something once that said Fantasy Sports is like Dungeons and Dragons for jobs. I think that's fairly accurate. I don't think so. I feel like you get something out of D&D, which I've never played, but I feel like you get an experience out of it, where I feel like playing fantasy sports just cheapens the experience of watching sports because you're not enjoying it. You're rooting for a specific player to do a specific thing to benefit you that day. And I feel like it cheapens the whole experience of enjoying sports because you're not enjoying it at that point. It feels like achievement hunting in video games can kind of be the same thing, where it's like you're not even worried about the actual natural flow of the game anymore. You're worried about this specific task or whatever. Yeah. Now it's like a redirect of your attention. I have a potentially controversial question about this. Go ahead. What if you're disinterested in the first place? And you get into fantasy sports. makes it fun that you would otherwise not care about what's going on. I've heard that argument. Literally me. Coming from the perspective of somebody who writes about sports, not for a living, but professionally, the industry is shifting towards being directed specifically to fantasy sports players. Like, you're supposed to be covering the odds, and she's creating these articles aimed at fantasy sports players. And maybe that's what's popular, I guess, but it's just like, to me, it's kind of grating. I don't know. It's kind of meaning to the point. I don't get seen being annoying, for sure. Yeah, I don't have anything against anybody that plays it. I just don't understand the appeal. I get that. Yeah, no, it's baffling. It is definitely baffling. We're here. We're there? I've got to skip down really quick because Imaginary Theta Sigma says, I don't think you have to pay money for D&D either. Except that the books are expensive. They are very expensive. And nobody just buys the books. You've got to buy 6,000 dice. And then you also have to buy like 50 different minis. And then all of the paints and the cool paintbrushes to paint them. $200 worth of snacks every time. There you go. The snacks. You can buy pre-painted minis. True. Ice Ski-Doo, sorry, you were saying? I said, speaking of dice, I wonder where he is. Yeah, where is Dice? He's still touring Oh yeah, he might be on another Weed tour binge Yeah, wasn't he doing the United States And then out of the country? Oh yeah, he may have Arthur Pendragon, the modules and then the crack paper So after Arthur Pendragon said I know right Homeostasis is easier To stay where you are Okay Devin Crate says too big to fail idea Yes, that was the but they've embedded themselves in everything. Oh, right. Fantasy sports is like betting, but nerdier. Well, I do not like watching. You're going to get a ball safe. You're good. Going back to that, on the fantasy sports, I don't like watching football. It doesn't keep my focus. But I got into fantasy, and suddenly I went to bars with like eight different televisions and I spent way too much time figuring out my fantasy lineups and I was winning tournaments and using all of my cool data analytics skills from building all kinds of visualizations for companies to seemingly do things and it got me into it for like six or seven years where I would be in... A year? Yeah. Seriously? six or seven years i understand why gambling is appealing to people and why things that make you feel like you're being rewarded for your skills are appealing to people but like i don't know for me it's one of those things where i was like okay if i'm gonna gamble i want to gamble on myself i'm going to invest money into my weird hobbies and see if i can make cool art and like you know It's like, how do you take that sort of instinct and direct it towards something that might still just lose you a ton of money, but was maybe a less destructive hobby? I don't know. Because, like, I don't know. I don't like laws that stop people from doing stuff that make them happy, but I could really see how gambling could be a real problem for some people. It makes me uncomfortable. You know, I come from a family with a history of gambling issues, too. So I've always kind of avoided it like crazy. Like I'll take, so I like to gamble just for like, if I'm going to a casino or whatever, I'll take like 20 bucks or 100 bucks or whatever, and I'll just play as long as I can play. And I just enjoy playing the different games. And I'm good with that. Like I'm not expecting to get money. But I feel like the danger comes from people that like expect to win every time. And that's, yeah, so. Yeah. If you're going to go gambling, you should take what you're comfortable not bringing home. That's key. Every time I go to Vegas, it's, okay, this money I'm losing. Assume I'm losing it. Your assumption should be that you're going to pay this amount of money to sit and have, quote, unquote, free drinks at a table. I think NFTs are kind of baffling to me, too. Oh, damn it. I wish I had that one. That's great. 100%. That's the answer of the night. Wow. Yeah, that was really good. And I'm really, like, intrigued and disturbed by the amount of pro athletes that get sucked into that whole scheme. Like, everywhere you look, especially basketball players, are getting, like, really into the world of NFTs. And it's like, who has decided that that is their target demographic? Because they were smart, but it's also kind of scary. Yeah. Well, I think it's actually a really good move if you're trying to scam people who are already, like, people who are watching sports for the fantasy element and the gambling elements that you mentioned earlier are more like the gamble on an NFT. So you go to a professional athlete and you say, hey, we'll pay you to pretend to buy an NFT. We'll give you the cost of the NFT. Let's say it's $300,000. And then we'll pay you $100,000 to buy it. And then you just give it back at the end. That is a really, really good point, Joe. Yep. Arthur Pendragon, the female voice on chat, is Sammy. Hi, Sammy. Yeah, I can't remember if it's 2G or 1. You can follow her at Sammy Higgins. Say something in chat, Sammy. Oh, sorry. I have not yet. Sorry about that. Hello. The higher P says it's the new wave of pyramid schemes. which is nfp yeah it is and like i understand like okay a lot you know there are some people who in the pandemic had a hard time financially there are others who are like oh man i didn't go on vacation or buy a car for an extra three years let me just what can i spend this on oh wow this nft thing seems great i've got an extra 300 000 you know i don't need to ask my if my favorite basketball player said it's great you know it's but it's really an extra 300 000 and choosing to spend it on a picture that you do not own that is mediocre at best. You're buying a hyperlink. But I'm more curious about how many people do you know that just have an extra $300,000? No, I don't. My point is that somebody nearly does or they wouldn't be getting a chance. Well, those are the investors. I quote one of Brenda Spring to own a star. I'm impressed that Jake Carissa says I live in Vegas and I've only ever gambled five dollars and then Game Club Central said I prefer buying turtles I like turtles I'm sorry Joe, do you own a star? do they offend you? oh I'm sorry, Joe no I don't own a star I always like the idea it is And you're not going to be out $300,000. I don't think that was me. I was muted. It was just one of those white dwarfs that turned into diamond, you might be. What is that thing on your head? A hat? No, there was like a, I don't know, a thing on your head. There's a circular overlay over your head. Thanks for the bits, Marty. It's bits. Oh, it was Game Club Central. Oh, okay, with the bits. Game Club Central, thank you. Nice! Marty, how are you doing? How are things? By the way, Game Club Central has another really cool virtual battle, I think, planned for... Was it next week or later this week? Marty, what's the date on your pinball battle? I like how Ninebot has the morning days. Good morning. I was just asking about you, Dice. Welcome. Hi, Dice, welcome! Saturday? Who told you? It was... He may have posted about it on the Discord. Are you outing him? Yes. Judge Dredd battled to the death at 9 p.m. ESP, 7 p.m. Mountain, just in case he happened to be in Mountain, 6 p.m. Pacific. Thank you. Did Ice-Kiddo give us a rave? Did we get a rave? I didn't see the lights change. I saw the lights change. Ice-Kiddo, can I... Ice-Kiddo, can I call you Brian Boytona? Call me what? Can I call you Brian Boytona? Brian Boytona, sure. What would Brian Boitano do? I wouldn't say my name. Okay. Call him Easy Bake, says Gameco Central. Get up there. Devin Craig says, you know what's more fun? Sending that vast quantity of money to commission an artist or custom artwork? Yeah, like art that would actually be good. Yeah. All right. And, you know, yours. Next question. Y'all ready for it? I'm going Sammy first this time. You ready, Sammy? Sure. What was the first slow dance song you danced to? Oh, my God. This is my question. I'm so happy with this. Oh, my God. Okay. Night, oh, it's been 90. I legitimately cannot remember anything before I was 12, so. I know. I just, like, like, like, like, pre-teen years, that's where we were. Right. I'm trying to remember what was even on the radio in, like, 1998. Yeah, I'm having the same problem, because, like, I'm sure that it was very meaningful to me at the time, but like, I think it was probably one of those songs like, even when I dream of you, the sweetest dreams I'll never do, cause I miss you baby. And I don't want to miss a thing. Oh, go ahead. I was going to say I don't want to miss a thing, but no, it's fine. The first one I remember is Usher's You Got It Bad, but that was not the first. That's just the only one that's coming to mind. When you're on the phone and you hang up. I only dance on tables after tequila, says Game Club Central. Well, okay. I hope you dance. I'm going to go boys to men for me, and I don't remember the song, but I remember putting my hand on a girl's butt for the first time. No. That memory of the booty just like... Well, the memory of how awkward it was to be like, do I move the hands down? Do I move them up like you move it down a little bit? And you kind of gauge and like, is this, am I within the realm of, is this bothering you? Yeah, and you just slow and... Did I ask for consent? Eventually, she just grabbed my hand and moved it down, which was great. Her name was Tara. Wow. Wow, I can't believe I just pulled that back. I don't remember her last name. I think I need to, like, Facebook Jeff and ask him, because that was in 1994. It was Jeff McFarlane. And you don't remember the song? Mm-mm. Okay. But I'm still Facebook friends with him because our families are friends from Catholic school, Catholic church, all that jazz. Okay. All right. Who else has a first dance song? But I'm sure it was, And I swear, by the sun and the moon and the sky, I'll be there. Ow! Oh, sorry. Are you not wearing shoes? No, I'm wearing the socks you gave me. Oh, okay. Do we look familiar? Are you making drinks? Yeah. Do we want a break to make more drinks? Does anybody else need drinks? Refill! This question upsets me. I'll go get a refill. Because it makes me... realize that I am ancient compared to all of the rest of you fetuses. I'm not a fetus. And that I absolutely remember what the first flow dance was that I ever had. Buddy Holly perform it live? No, it wasn't fucking Buddy Holly. It was Buddy Holly? It was the Bengals Eternal Flame. Oh. You had a 1988. I think I won. I don't know who that is. What? Terrace. The Bengals or Buddy Holly? The Bengals. Oh, my God. Oh, no. Jay. Did you marry your high school sweetheart? Is that why it's so memorable? God damn it, I did. There you go. That is a big one. That's awesome. Casey and JoJo all my life. That's probably, like, earlier than the other one that I said, because I'm sure that was involved as well. At some point I'll go into the whole saga that is my eventual marriage, but my wife was dating my best friend when we were teenagers, and I fell in love with her. This is a real healthy situation. Oh, it happens. But then I ended up marrying her, and it was great. It worked out in the end. Yes. I win. I vote Ancestors. Well, that's why you can remember it so vividly. Let's do Monkey. You want to do Monkey? Okay. Does the chat agree? We have three different gins here. This is a local gin called Ancestors Distilling. Wasn't my favorite. This is Ryan Reynolds gin, which is Aviation. Aviation. Or we have Monkey 47, which... You're not centered. I didn't see aviation. Oh, sorry. Aviation. If you were going to make a drink called the Deadpool with the aviation gin, how would you do it? He would do it with the drops of Grimm and Green. That's a good one. All right. Does the rock have a gin, and what is that called? No, the rock has to be called Timana. Or Spitzers. It's called... He has a tequila, and it's called Tamana. Oh, okay. George, I made ice. You made ice? I made ice. There's an ice tray in your freezer. Well, it can't be that cold yet. I'm not yellow. Old school technology on him. No, I sure did. Tammy, I'm so excited you're coming out. I'm so excited. I know. It's going to be so much fun. Like, my whole family that's in Lompoc are Giants fans. Really? Yeah. That's awesome. Like, they're all, like, huge Giants fans. So, I, yeah, like, your esteem went higher. And I'm not even facing the camera. I don't face the camera. You're not. I can't see you. Yeah, like, you see, like, my little flippies in the back. Ha! I mean, now I'm waving, but you can't see me. But, you know. I'm like, you can't see me on the camera. Okay, so the Deadpool drink, we're going to add some craziness here. First things first, we're going to throw some pineapple juice in here. Oh, pineapple juice. Where's the Tabasco? Got to have some. No. You think, okay, it needs some grenadine. Got it. Pineapple juice. Got to have a good reddish hue. They're so good. Okay. There's that. Guys, it's still calling soundtrack. More cowbells. Oh, my gosh. I really want to do a cowbell costume for Halloween. I really want to, like, go to Expo and just, like, dress up as Will Ferrell in his cowbell stuff and just, like, walk around with a cowbell. We can make, like, a group, like, joke out of it. Yeah, I really do. and I need somebody to be Christopher Walken. Did I get somebody today? Call her. No, Belle. Ooh, I know what we're making next, too, because we've got Joe on the street. It's hard to look like Christopher Walken, but everybody's got an impersonation of Christopher Walken. I mean, all you need to do is, like, flick your hair back and wear, like, the aviator sunglasses and, like, a leather jacket and some, like, bell-bottom jeans. I got a diva. The hard part is getting the chimichanga properly muddled for the Deadpool drink. Amazing presentation, George. Thank you. Like, extra points for style. Even though I'm seeing that, like, five seconds later. Yeah. Did you? Okay. What are we doing here? We're going to cheers. Here we go. This is the Deadpool drink. You seem very hesitant to try the Deadpool drink. You need to hashtag this feed so Ryan Reynolds pays attention to you. It's about hemlock, is it? Oh, wow. Did you take the ingredients? Yeah, that was pineapple, grenadine, almond, whipped cream, tonic, and aviation gin. Yeah. What's the verdict? That was really good. Grenadine and pineapple go so well together. Is it just lovely? That is lovely. Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with that. Dicey Wild Dice has appeared. Yeah, Dice has just joined us. Dice! Dice! I decided I'd grab a lozenge and jump in. Oh, wow. Oh, you did? Get dicey. Cool lozenge. We collide. Oh, this is my turn. I drooled. Don't do that. It's that good, though. that's an endorsement right yeah it's um hold on waiting in was it baited breath baited oh I hear cake barely it's very quiet in the background wow yeah hear or taste I have the I have the nose of the almond and then, like, the citrus is, like, on the front of my tongue. I don't really get the grenadine, which is pomegranate. Maybe you need a splash of amaretto for the hominid, please. Oh. Oh, my God. No. Oh, my God. No. Yes. No. No. No whipped cream on the nose. George is like, I'm all about it. Yep. Okay, so what color does this taste like? It tastes like orange. Interesting. How much amaretto? I just put in a tiny bit. Do I need more? No, no, no. No, that's plenty. Yeah, just a splash like you did the first time. Or just dump another four ounces in it. Why not? Don't listen to cereal. What was that drink that you, like, made with all the soda? Oh, my. Oh, no. This is like a dead Deadpool. This looks like that egg drink from that one stream. Oh, really? Did you say egg drink? No, I introduced him to the egg drink. Oh, no. What have I done? Have you ever eaten turtles? Did you remember being a kid? Someone peed in the Deadpool. Okay, so this is the Deadpool cement mixer. Yeah. Do you remember being a kid and making something, and you thought it tasted amazing, and your parents were like, mmm, yeah! Yeah! Oh, Jay-Z. Wow. The Amaretto finished it all. Like, yeah. The Amaretto's where it's at. I would like to propose that if you made a worse version of the Deadpool, you call it the Captain Deadpool. Okay. Okay, I kind of like that. Just so you know, if I vomit, I'm in your bed tonight. Okay, got it. Ow, now. Finish chewing your drink. Yeah. Come on. Just put some coconut flakes in there. Oh, my God. Coconut flakes? I'm kidding. And what do you think? Oh, the cottage cheese presentation. You hurt me. Yeah, there we go. And what's that? That's not so much an endorsement. I know. I'm just waiting for her to say, that was amazing. I think he wasted a while oh yeah I think that's a no get a bucket thank you thank you no sprinkles Marty sprinkles are for winners and he was like dad do you love me and he was like Georgie go to bed let's change the scene we don't want to see her but spread across the pinball glass. Can I just say this is the car wreck of Monday nights that I've been missing? Yes! Please, say that all you want to. Hey! Hey, where did Chester Chicken go? Not important. We really don't need that screaming. Hey! Hey! Game Club, Chester, like, sprinkling. We get specific requests for Mr. Chester Chicken. I don't think anybody specifically... I do request you bring back a dart gun Oh that can happen I feel like this is a conversation that happening later There is the dart gun is a really bad idea Oh my god. That is so loud. It is not loud. That is so loud. You're very self-conscious. I almost drained. That's what you want. Game Club Central, Club 1. George, I feel like we need to see the rubber chicken in the oven cam. Yeah, guys, I need your help with chat. Keep an eye with it. So how's everyone doing tonight? Really well. Can't you tell, guys? I'm still pretty high from that podcast, so no. Okay, well, is it a podcast? At least 50% of us are pretty drunk. Yeah, George, I was on like a five and a half hour podcast about Wisconsin's multiple semester year. I have, of course. What did we do this weekend? What place did you get, Dice? Hold on. I am in a... Did it get you to admit to anything? I don't know. You never admit to anything. You know what they say. Denial is not just a river in Utah. Denial. Ha ha. To answer your question, as I said earlier, I am just lovely. I'm a little confused by the question, ask me, what do you mean by the place that I get it? Sorry, say that again. I'm so sorry, but the flipping is so bad. There's a lot of flipping and a lot of... Someone asked me what place I got it, and I was confused about the record. Oh, no, I was curious what place of serial killer you got in Wisconsin. Can I roll the mic? Maybe I misunderstood the whole point of the podcast. Ed Gein was from the Janitorial area. You had a classic down there in Milwaukee, and I love his more lascivious details. You're strained on your boat. It's all good. All right, everybody, what is your favorite box of cereal to kill? to kill, do you mean just like eat four or five bowls in a row? One box, I'm just going to go crazy on that box. Marshmallow fruit lips. No question. But a whole box would tear up the roof of your mouth to a point where you wouldn't be able to taste anything spicy for a week. Is marshmallow fruit? Sure I would. I'd say blueberry, but I haven't seen it in stores in 30 years. Oh my god, Target brings it back every Halloween. Yes. Who's going to be ordering that seasonally? I have to go to Target. You could probably order it on eBay right now. If it's made year-round, it's just not available nationwide year-round. So it's like the McRib. Yeah. Seasonal. Yeah, it's seasonal. But good. Mr. Lamb says peanut butter, Captain Crunch, the whole box. Oh, man. Are you talking about grape nuts? Grape nuts? No. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Grape nuts on top of chocolate ice cream is amazing. No, no, no. Grape nuts always need to have something else added. I agree that it's not a bad base, but... I want to clear something up. Guys, I'm Dan Panda. I said hi. Good morning, Friskelby. Our hero, Tim Dragon. I'm Dan Samba. I dance for a living. Well, at least for me to remember that. George Francis for a living. What? Did you say poop or poop? Yes. Yes. I beat dice to it. Did it get stuck up there? It did. Cinnamon Life. Oh, my gosh. Cinnamon Life is pretty awesome. Hey, Surreal. Do you have Amazon? I mean, am I aware of the existence of Amazon? Do you have Amazon Prime? I do have Amazon Prime, yes. Well, there you go. If you click that link, you can have a box of blueberry for under $4. Oh, is it from 30 years ago? No. But 30 years ago, it's one of the good chemicals, Ryan. Most likely have a... That's what I'm saying. That's when we had leaded gasoline. Good date. Leaded. Do you remember taking leaded paint on them? I don't think Amazon can sell expired cereal, but if they do, you can probably get your money back. Interesting. They just have to call it vintage. What's the weirdest job you all have? Ah, yes. This is a fine cereal from 83. Whoa. You can't ask what's the weirdest job you've all... That's not even... Thank you for that. I'm going to add one to my subscribe and save that's coming May 11th. That sounds good. I'm going to be getting mine Thursday. Nice. So that means you probably can't add to this one, but it might come next month. And does Star-Lord look anything like Chris Pratt? Um... He did not look like Chris Pratt, but when he's wearing his mask in the movie, it's almost perfect to the second time that Guardians of the Galaxy was done. So I have the number one comic from the... I think it was 2010 series that they did, or maybe early 2000 series, which was the second time that Guardians came up. Can I see it? It is... No, I don't think I have it here. Marty, the thing that I would hope for the most is the bowl that has the straw on the side of it. Which, by the way, I think is the most disgusting invention ever. But every once in a while you would get in a bowl of cereal in the 80s. Tell them the fun fact that Jess taught us about the milk. Oh, that you need to drink the milk after you're done with cereal to get all of the health benefits of the cereal because they spray on all the nutrients and it falls off into the milk. So if you don't drink the milk, you don't get the nutrients. I feel like we've had the whole time. Sorry, go ahead. So I could have been skipping eating and I could have just had that spray the whole time. Yes, exactly. Yep. You just soak it in milk, dump out the cereal, and drink the milk. Well, as I was telling George on, I think it was Discord, that I have a new coffee creamer I found called, it was just Twinkie Creamer, which is weird. And another one was Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and that was actually quite good. No way. In the 80s, we had a Rocky Road ice cream cereal. Ew. Mickey Road ice cream cereal. We had Mr. T cereal, too. That was just Captain Crust without the berries. I feel like we've discussed this before at some point. Yeah, lots of reactions. Does anybody else pour in the milk and then do a layer of cereal? Oh, yeah, we talked about that. My friend taught me that. I was like, what are you doing? It's amazing. Yeah, we make cereal less dogs. Those are the same people that put a spoon in the bowl before they put the soup in. So, gluten-free lucky charm. But it makes my hip green. It's not fun. I'm having a hard time hearing you all. Is this one coming up for anyone else? Can you, like, move your mic a little bit? Is your voice again? I said gluten-free Lucky Charms. There you go. Yep. Isn't that just marshmallows? No, it's gluten-free cereal. Oh. It's gluten-free cereal. I'm going to... A little different version that has no gluten. Can you turn me down? No, I'm going to turn Janelle up a bit because you speak very quietly. I'm not quiet. I'm just not... You can actually see that my normal volume is like... Six dots above you. Yeah, but you're loud. I can only imagine what gluten-free surreal is like. I needed you to say it in order for me to understand it. That was great. Keep up central. I'm not saying that. You can read it. What? What? Talking to your Kliyama gang. I think working cameras are still naturally gluten-free. Is that true? I don't know, but they have a lot of gluten-free, like, is it my turn? It's your turn. I heard that a lot of cereals got on the gluten-free train there, like 10 years back. This guy was labeling it even though it was always gluten-free. Yeah, because, like, oats, right, are gluten-free. Yeah, it's an oat cereal with marshmallows, so I think it's just naturally gluten-free. Yeah, there's not enough that are gluten-free in my opinion. Game Club, you're on fire tonight. Yeah, seriously, game club. Nicely done. Where do I get my Lucky Charm free gluten? Notice not all Lucky Charms. Do you have a link for that, Ice-Kidoo? Can we get that on Amazon? What? Lucky Charms? Gluten free Lucky Charms. Well, the standard. My wife's going to watch me open nine packages of surreal. Cereal. Right. That's probably the most affordable price to me. I or peanut. The gluten and lactose are delicious. I can't agree with you more, and it sucks every day, because those are the two things I feel like I really can't eat. Why? Why with my nose? The best part of those is the diabetes, so. Yeah. Diabetes. Diabetes. Diabetes. You never need to walk anywhere again. Nor can. Well, if you want to put it. Hi-ho, Silva. Hooray. Oh, my God. What is happening in the background? Somebody has had evidently just a knife in their arm. She was hot. We've all had tea and some martinis. So she can't reach through there. Oh, my God. I'm about to start. Now, on the flip side, we have... The flip side? On the flip side. Oh, okay, huh? So... That was not the name of a pinball channel. The flip side. What a Dick White dog at the flip side. We're out of Seattle. That's not how I want to take my chicken away. Flip side does... Oh, my... That's the name of the pinball location in Loveland, really? That would be the pinball-based spinoff of The Twilight Zone. you have done a flip side. Now I want to do a series of skits for the next time they do like the Twippies or something that are just like, imagine. And it's just like these weird Twilight Zone-esque things. Put a coin in if you wish. Now, hurry up and finish your drink so that way we can make the next one, which by the way was recommended by By Joe. By Joe. All right, we're good. Joe, you recommend. This next one is chonky. Wait, wait, wait. Did you get the sweet tea, vodka, and sundrop? I did. I'm telling you, George, I was like, it's coming up on 1 a.m. here. I've got to call it a night. But you have given me my second wind. Okay, I'm going to stick it around for the sweet tea and sundrop. Joe, this is the content that George provides. Joe, I'm going to be in Tennessee the first week of June, second week of June. Why are you looking at me? I don't know. I'm not your calendar's keeper. Maybe you should be. Oh, my God. Just ding your phone. Hey, George. Yeah. Okay. We are ready to make this other drink. Let's make this happen. So we're going to hit it. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I know. Are we? Here, let's do it. We're going over. Ah, we lost the second camera again. Joe, you've got to check this out. Get a heat-resistant camera. It's not. We opened the door. It's snowing today. No, no, no. It's not. It is snowing, right? It hits 30-some-odd degrees. They said it's like snow. All right. You guys dial 9-1. And when I say, hit the other one. Oh, oh. It was when I was there. I stopped in Denver for a layover on my way to Tennessee last time, and it was like a high of 20 degrees, like the highest temperature, and I walked outside thinking I knew what to expect. No, I was not prepared for that. Sammy. Jordan, wash out that glass, for the love of God. It is a 20-degree day. It's nasty. It's real. There we go. It's washed. ish. Mostly. Oh my god. Mostly. Okay. Daisy. Okay. So we have lost in the night mostly. And say like Daisy and a dad in a dad's room. It's rinsed. Just somebody say Daisy like a dad to me. What? We're not trying to sterilize it. We're just trying to make it not gross. Yeah, exactly. Not taste like the last drink. Alright. Joe, when I make this, Is it one shot or two shots? Is it the standard one shot per sundrop? Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. Mix Master Joe. Joe Hill. Oh, we lost Joe. All good. Oh, no. Oh, sorry. I was pushing to talk on my computer, but the call's going through my phone. No, I'm just saying, I usually one part Sweet Tea Vodka, two parts sundrop. Okay. There we go. George, tell Joe Hills what our handyman said. So, now we do not live together, but I have a handyman that I hired through, like, this handyman connection. And then I was like, hey, can I, like, hire you to do stuff? You know, and he was like, well, you have my cell phone number. anyway so like I gave the cell phone number to George and he came to do stuff for George too because we both like work insane amounts of extra hours and he's from Tennessee outside of Chattanooga oh that's right and while he was here at George's place he George said you can have a drink out of the fridge. And you take it away. So I opened the fridge and he's like, oh my God, you have Sundrop? And I'm like, yeah. He goes, how did you get that? It's not available in Colorado. And I'm like, it's so crazy. I have a friend out in Tennessee who was telling me it is very specific to the South. And he's like, I'm from Tennessee. I grew up with Sundrop. That is my drink. And I'm like, it's available on Amazon. It's more expensive than, like, standard Mountain Dew, but you can get it. And then I explained to him, I'm like, so that same friend told me to go ahead and get this sweet tea vodka, and he's like, that is a classic drink combination from the South. You absolutely have to try it as soon as possible. So here we go. I've been to Tennessee twice, and I have not had Sun Drop. I bought a Sun Drop last time, but we mixed it with drinks. So I don't even notice the cost. No, I know, but, like, you didn't have to drink? I don't think I had anything with sundrop in it, no. Oh, no. I'm sorry, Sammy. I know. You're fine. That wasn't, like, anything to do with you. I'm just saying, like, I bought one and never actually drank it. I'm an old Sammy, like, disappointment in Sammy, but, like, Joe, you're from the South. You should be better. Joe is an excellent host. Joe is great. I give people poo. That's what I do. I give people poo. Wow. Okay. You like it, right? Oh, my God. This tastes like super. I think I put too much of the sweet tea vodka in there. A little bit too much. But it is basically a sweet tea that has a lot of alcohol in it at this point. What did I do with the rest of the ice cubes? Yeah, it tastes like sweet tea. This is your only time to ever try Sundrop, Sammy. It will never happen again. Mr. Lentz actually took me to get Sundrop, but I still didn't actually drink it. Maybe your ratio needs to be a little bit heavier on the Sundrop. Top it back off with more Sundrop. You think with the diluted vodka? It's a thing you can still do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Top it off with the Sundrop. Have a few sips and then just fill it to the top of Sundrop. No, no, no. I'm fine with the overly sweet. I hope everybody understands I'm perfectly fine with this very very very strong drink you do need to remember George that Sundrop is caffeinated thank you I do remember that Sundrop is caffeinated and it is midnight oh my god it's midnight have we played any pinball yet I feel like there has been very little pinball played you never change the scene to pinball We haven't even made it to question two. No, we have not. We have. We have. We have. We haven't gotten to question two. Six questions. Mind the sink. I'm caught up in the cacophony as well. All right. Before we go on to question number three, Joe, what a fantastic recommendation. I love it. It's sweet tea, but you can't taste any alcohol whatsoever. There's no hint of vodka in there. In my opinion, like, when somebody's like, describe a happy drink. If you were going to mix a drink that feels happy, it's that. That is, like, just in terms of emotional response, it's just like, this is just good. It's nice. I can't argue with that statement. Yeah. I love it. I feel like I get that response from Bailey's. This is much sweeter than Bailey's. Don't get me wrong, I like Bailey's. Probably a little more potent, too. Yeah, I'm going to have to take the Madville tonight. Just FYI. There's nothing worse than the realization of what tomorrow is going to be like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to switch because I can't do tapping right now. I'm so sorry. Okay, but did you taste it at least? I did taste it. Here, here. Did you like the taste? I hope it was suitable. So lovely. Wow. You got to wear a suit while you're drinking it. So, by the way, we have an endorsement. With Jenna McMuffin and MPT3K's help, ended up making the Sony ZV-1 working wonderfully. Like, this camera actually works really well right now. The issue was there was like six different settings in the camera that had to do with outputting at 4K 30 frames per second as opposed to 1080, and outputting at 4K but only showing 1080 on stream was doing awful things to the image. So getting it to natively output at 1080 and pulling it in at 1080, and the camera quality just went up. It skyrocketed. It was wonderful. It looks great. So I have no issues now with this camera. I think it looks awesome. Sorry, what are you pointing at? Your image is 1080, but your personality is still 4K. That's awesome. You do. Thank you. Aw. So Tim took it up to the ceiling. I thought he also did that well. No, he didn't. I didn't have enough to do that well. So the handyman that we had come, who was from Tennessee, I had him do all these things that I had been putting off doing because I'm lazy. You're not lazy. I am very lazy. You work two jobs. You're busy. I am very busy, but I'm also lazy. You work two jobs and you stream. And the, like, four hours of free time you get during the week. I'm lazy with. You read and you relax your mind. Rest is just as important as working. Well, thank you for that. I want to thank you all for making me feel sober tonight. Say it again. I want to thank you all for making me feel sober tonight. That's well said. Hey, and on that note, things that have changed for you as a result of COVID. like what's something that that you either do differently or you feel is now different no i need to know who did that who who who is that deep sigh with that that was me i went it was lovely oh sorry I mean my life post-covid is exactly the same as it was pre-covid can I can I go before I yeah please please go ahead it's not going to be long but that's what he said um um so I got divorced in the middle of COVID. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And that was, I mean, COVID prolonged it. But I got divorced. I lost a poo ton of weight. And I gained some because I got COVID at the beginning of COVID. Because somebody coughed in my mouth who had COVID. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. I knew. Gross. Yeah. Yeah. Ew. Yeah, ew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I'm not married to you. Usually you have to pay for that. So, lost a poot-ton of weight, but I was already on the downward trajectory. Jedi's going to use that phrase, by the way, poot-ton, tomorrow specifically. Poot-ton. Continue on. Switch jobs, like, twice. Okay. Moved out and bought a place. And bought a house all during COVID. Cheers to that. Congratulations. Yeah. Cheers. Cheers. And, oh, yeah. I'm a grandma. Oh, yeah. And you're a grandma. There you go. All happened during COVID. Okay. Therapy, that was good. The last one is not. Yeah, I nearly lost my mom to COVID, so I don't feel like I have any response to this question that would not be super angry, so I'm going to go ahead and pass. I owe my life to COVID, so I get it. Yeah. I'm immunocompromised. She's immunocompromised, struggled. I did lose my mom to COVID, so I am right there with you. Oh, George. I'm sorry, I did not know that. Oh, I have drank a lot. Somebody else's tour. That was me and like a couple other people. Okay. Yeah. My bad. All right. I did push-ups. But, sorry, the other, the more fun thing I did was I lost about 45 pounds during COVID. So, and put a huge focus on health and fitness. congratulations on that run you did yeah I'm super proud of you for getting that 10k I feel like you very much succeeded in that arena and after that was after a concert oh my god all I heard about was the run ok so I did the offspring with Janelle and Friday night no yeah on Friday night right? Saturday no it was Saturday night from 9 until midnight, drove back, got home at about 1, and then I had to get up at 6 in order to be ready and actually at the starting line for a 10K at 7 in the morning. And it's how they count before college. So the best part about, I remember you were talking about, like, why do people run this early? What happens is you go home and you sleep, and it's all just like, it's like he dreamed the whole thing. and you're able to move on with your day. So I've got a story about this. Oh my gosh, what happened? Two balls. You started the quill mode, which is a multiball. Oh, well, not anymore. Sorry, and it gets even more fun than that, by the way, Sammy, in that I finished the run at 8 o'clock a.m. and then I had already planned. Bad as a year. Yeah, I had already planned before I signed up for the 10K, to do a zoo visit starting at nine in the morning with the neighbor kids and my daughter. Oh, you didn't have to run during that, though. You know, you could stroll. So, I gotta... Well, if the lion got out of the cage, he doesn't. Can I just... Can I please gush for a minute? Okay, go for it. So, like, can I gush on you for a minute? Maybe. I don't know exactly what that means. Okay. Okay. Oh, my gosh. The Outer Spring is my, like, all-time favorite band, like, ever. And I have not been to, like, a lot of concerts in my, like, whole entire life. Like, my whole entire life. George has been to a lot of concerts. And then we go out to dinner, like, a few weeks ago. and I don't know what you said but something to the effect of we're losing half of what you say yeah you're cutting out sweetie something to the effect of the offspring is in town would you like to see them or something I don't know but it was not indicative of the fact that you had bought tickets for us to go see them Yeah. Surprise. Yeah, exactly. He had surprised me with tickets to go see The Ospring, which is my favorite band of all time. Mm-hmm. Aw. Which we had done karaoke together, like, of The Ospring, like, done an Ospring song, like, the night I closed on my plane. And so, yeah, big, big, big deal. Aw. Yep. Checks out. George is good at these. can I say that like we've been friends for like 15 years yeah oh my god but you do have to play your ball my ball I thought I played my ball last night what? what? what's the next question? oh wait no we didn't get everybody else's answer no no we didn't Jedi! Jedi! Jedi's here. Yes. I didn't know. Jedi not. Jedi not, like, on the... Jedi is not in the chat right now, no. Jedi... Why? That's a really good question. Just because we have so many other people, I feel like, right now. But, no. I love the idea that this becomes the polyphonic spree of people streams. One more voice. One more voice. There are only five of us. I mean, I really, I could afford to step out because, like I said, it's getting late here. I just wanted to stick around and see how the vodka sun dropped, because I couldn't miss that. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. I do have heartburn from that. Joe, you nailed it. I am so happy because that is going to be my new, like, summer go-to drink, right? Because sweet tea is like that perfect beverage on a hot day. Oh, absolutely. You get some real ice in there, too. Like, you're not even, you know, doing this right. I was going to say, you really want ice in there, but we'll get it. We'll get it. I didn't even have sweet tea when I was in Tennessee. I'm failing at visiting the South. Sammy, you're going to have to come back. Yes. That's it. You're just going to have to go back. I'm going to be there from the 7th to the 14th. You've got to come. George, that's probably why it felt strong, because you didn't have that natural ice melting and giving a little bit of the... You need that organic. Absolutely. Yes. He's your organic eye. All right. Well, thanks again for having me, George. Have a fantastic night. Everyone, it was great hanging out. Good night, Joe. Good night, all. It was fun. Yep. Yep. Have a great night. Oh, my gosh. Joe, have a great night. That's the third drink coming in right there. Just FYI. Don't drink, kids. Not good for you. Hello, drink. so I'm gonna say that uh the big thing that changed for COVID for me was I met a lot of new friends and on Twitch and in the pinball community and started streaming and that's that's a really good answer I like I feel like I could I could focus on like something more positive like that so like when COVID like when it first started is when I first kind of like, started, like, getting to know a lot of people in, like, the streaming and online communities because everything kind of shifted to that. So I've made so many good friends through, like, Joe's community and other communities, and so, like, I wouldn't trade any of that for anything. I'm just, yeah, so I'm going to focus on that. That's a good one. That is a really good one. I, since COVID, I went and visited Manu. I visited Jedi McMuffin. I went and visited Joe Hill's. Oh, and Surreal. Surreal, did we visit during COVID? We did. Yeah, okay. During COVID. Yeah. George Crowell would have made it to visit me, but I wasn't home that day. Yeah, it was unfortunate. Surreal, when was that? Was that April? It was in the past. Okay, right there. The biggest change I have experienced with COVID is a complete inability to chronologically place any events for the past two and a half years. I agree with that. It was less than two years ago, and it wasn't last week. So it's somewhere in there. Somewhere in between. It's certainly one ago. Yes. So speaking about that, we all went out for a friend's wedding in late January of 2020 to the Dominican Republic. And what was crazy is that was the moment things started changing with COVID. So on the flight back, it was so weird to go through. I had a two-part flight where I flew from the Dominican Republic back to O'Hare Airport where I picked up my daughter. And then my daughter and I flew from O'Hare Airport to Denver. and the flight there, it was fine. On the way back, COVID had broke out and because we were in the Dominican Republic and I'm not great about news, I had no idea what happened. So I hit the airport and everyone was wearing masks and I was so blown away by like, what's going on? Where do I get masks? What's happening? But nothing was enforced at that point. It was just like 90% of the people had gone from nothing to wearing masks as they were going through the airport. Zoe and I were freaking out the entire time. So that all happened late January. It was such a surreal experience. Yeah. That's when I got it the second time. Sorry, thank you very much. That was fun. And now, so it's, the weird thing is, so my, where I work, there was a huge, like, office-wide outbreak in early this year, like January, February. And so you would think that all of us that got it would be okay now. And now it's sweeping through the office again. And everyone that got it in, like, February is getting it again. Yep. But that's, oh, wait, February. So we're in May. That's not quite the sixth month. I feel like that's the three-month. Yeah, I think that's a recurring theme. Yeah, it hasn't even been three months for me. I've had it twice, and it hasn't even been three months since the last time, and I've been exposed like six times in the last week, which is great. It's exactly what you want. Yeah. I think that's a recurring theme for people who are in the U.S. and maybe Canada. But just people in general think that just because they're sick of something, that somehow it's gone away and they don't have to worry about it anymore. It's really just not the case. No. No. See, Razer built a PC during COVID. Awesome. Razer, was that your first PC or did you just put a PC together? It's been 2020 for six years now. Go back to then. What then? Why not? We passed it when? When will then be now soon? Of course I want coffee while I watch Radar. Oh my God, Spaceballs reference. Awesome. um oh first in a while okay cool and i do want to throw out we were talking today there is a local airline that uh like just a 15 minute drive away that has direct flights to vegas from a very small airport i feel like we need to make a vegas trip happen in like july i don't and there's the vegas pinball museum and then there just going crazy and then there some like fun gambling once again when you do that make sure that you just assume you going to lose whatever money you you end up gambling but also i i feel like uh i been to like three shows now um uh cirque de soleil and now whenever i go back to vegas i always have to do a cirque de soleil show because they it's so different than any other show i've ever been to so i would want to do the pinball museum one day cirque de soleil another and then just like hard partying somewhere in the middle and just walking around the strip. It's about probably a 45 minute flight from here to Las Vegas that I've never been. Oh my god, Sammy! I know Dice is in. Dice, you like live in Vegas it sounds like, right? Yeah, I can six times over recommend the Criss Angel show. Okay, so let's just say maybe we take the Giants-Rockies game off the table and maybe We just have fun in Vegas. And just go to Vegas? I feel like we'd have more fun. Well, oh, my God. I have a jersey, though, Danny. I'm going to need you to pack at least one suit because I am taking you to a speakeasy. To a speakeasy. I don't own a suit. I'll rent you a suit. I got a guy. I got a guy. What are you doing? If we land and get to our room, I'll call him and we'll get your measurements. Okay. It'll be like, uh... George will be like Rayman. You take him into the suit shop and get him fitted with a suit that matches. Diced. Card counting is really not that hard. Yeah. I need a fitted suit. It's one of those things I've never done. What's with that? You can get a suit. into the mic. Uh, sorry. Anyone in this call or in chat who's going with me, at least I'm pretty sure this guy only deals with men's suits, but we need to get a list, and I'll get everyone. Okay. I mean, I don't need a suit, but thanks. We could all have all the women. You know what's funny? All the women can wear suits, too. That would be cool. I kind of agree. If everybody was wearing suits, Yeah, with all matching suits. Because then we could be the suit gang. The suit gang, right? Oh, wow. We need Joe here for this conference. I can run to CVS and get some mousse and also stop off at Del Taco for that sweet value menu. It would make the same conference. If Joe was here, though, it would be Beetlejuice suits for everybody. Joe's got, like, an amazing array of suits. Like, I have not, obviously, I mean, I don't know Joe well enough to know all of his suits, but I know that the first time I went to Nashville, he brought his Beetlejuice suit and his David S. Pumpkin suit. And that was an interesting thing to wear throughout the hotel as a joke. It was, yeah. The David S. Pumpkin one. Which I finally want. Dumber colors, and I wouldn't even need to get us fitted. They sell those suits on Amazon, and they're one size fits all. I challenge that. One size fits all does not fit all. Well, not if you don't suck your gut in. They're like feet. Maybe it's probably either too big or too small. We're talking singularity kind of suck. You're on your pivot. You're form-collected. Form-collected. Oh, no, no, it's real. All you have to do is hold your breath the entire time we're out. If you never breathe again, you'll be fine. What's this calling for anyway? because Vegas is very smoky, especially now that marijuana is recreation. Oh, it's recreational in, like, downtown? It's recreational in all of Nevada, but the problem is if you buy something from one of the dispensaries, you can't exactly take it back to your room and do it legally. So most people do it on the street, and as long as they're not putting it in a disturbing county. I work for a place that, so California is legal in California as well, but, like, I work for a place that follows federal rules, And so, yeah, I can't even be around all the smoke because it affects you. So they randomly drug test you? They don't, but they could. And so I don't like to, like, I don't want to take any risks. Good. Yeah, just walking around the strip, you're going to ring the people, just pop the joints. Yes. I mean, just walking around my house, same. No. Also the same. I feel like, honestly, like, if I didn't have to deal with, like, the... I've only ever been random once, and it wasn't even random. It was a friend of mine happened to talk about going to a reggae festival in front of the wrong person. So she got, quote-unquote, randomed. And then everyone that she was known to be friends with... So that's, like, eight years. That's the only time I've ever been randomed. But, like, I don't want to take that risk. It was profiling. I mean, yeah, it was definitely profiling. Has anybody seen, has, I don't know if you can hear me, has anybody seen that, like, hold on, I'm going to just attach it to my bra strap, just because that seems like the most stable thing. They stay in place. Has anybody seen that, like, little meme or whatever, that, like, I'm baking brownies for my office, not because I like those efforts, but because there's a random drug test tomorrow. And I'm not going to let it go. Let me tell you. So the people that I live with have started making edibles, like, figuring out how to make edibles. And so every time there are fresh baked goods in my house, I'm just like, I can't eat them. They are not for me. It's mean. It's a form of cruelty. You make a whole thing of brownies that I cannot have. Sammy, I currently own and operate two dispensaries out of state, so if your roommates ever need help with that, I can point them in the right direction. I would definitely pass that information along, so just shoot me a message. Now that's nice on brand. Hey, that's good for you. I can't give them the recipe for our pizza dough, though, because we're about to take the first ones in the U.S. Wow. Wow. Wow. We've also got a hamburger helper. We've got a few cereals coming out. We just recently started infusing it in ice cream. Right. Guys, GHC bonds to fatty acids. Is that correct? I would have to talk to my chef. I'm more of a get high and come up with ideas guy. That is an amazing job. How do you get it? I first meet somebody with about $75,000 worth of capital and promise them we won't lose it opening a lube company. Wait, so your pizza is the cause and solution to your munchies? We're hoping to become one of the first ones in the U.S. to not only just be a dispensary, but turn it into sort of a generalized grocery store where you can go for edible type things. And there will be different types, of course, Indica's and Sativa's for different kinds of medical needs, because at the end of the day, I still do personally believe that weed, for people that genuinely do need it, is a medicine. So kind of like a weed-a-zon, right? Weed-a-zon problem. Or wheat foods. Weed-a-zon, I think. I'm sort of like 7-Eleven. I'm not only doing business, but I'm always open. Wait, that's a quote from something. I've heard that before. Thank you. yes you know we're kind of like 7-eleven we're not always doing business but we're always helping that is nicely put thank you well done well done troy duppy everyone teed up on the ones and twos it's an amazing thing about like earning your association grade in the media college is that your biology oh sorry can you not hear me thank you thank you better now you were cutting No, no, no. Sorry, I just probably need to step away from G. Just tape that to the side of your face and you'll be fine. Just like Brittany. Clip it to your chin. There you go. Is that like one of the things about going to community college before I reached my full undergrad was that my biology teacher taught us that THC bonds to fatty acids, which is why you try to get THC to bond itself to butter before baking it in rice, crispy treats, or brownies, or anything like that. So butter, oil, anything that is oil-based will be good, which is why baked goods are amazing for treats. Sorry, this is not associated with a panic flip at all. Hey, kids, let's teach you how to do this thing. It is available at the community college. It is not associated because children are not having edibles. It technically is I thought that was a Clippers hat It is a Cookie Monster hat It is a cookie brand hat Yeah Jedi We gotta get you on this talky talk Well, we does make some people including me paranoid so you could make like don't panic toke hats Oh, where's the opportunity Branding. Wow. A, B, B, George. Always be branding. Always be branding. All right. Last game here. Leave that when I see it. So this weekend. So it's question number five. What are we at? Five? Four? Four. Yeah. But before we go there, I got to say, before G-Man ran a 10K, a.k.a. smiles for everybody in the United States. We saw The Offspring, which are every bit as good in person as they are on record. They are very good in person. They really do sound kind of like they're in the studio, even in person. Yeah. Dr. George. Oh, good. Oh, no, Dr. Jack, he actually has his Ph.D. in R&A science, the lead singer and the rhythm guitarist, and is the only original member of the band. So let me know about that for a second. Yeah, amazing, amazing, amazing. Okay, so if he quits and somebody replaces them, is it still the same band? They're no longer the offspring, because there's not any offspring left. They're the offspring's offspring. They're the offspring of the offspring. They're the grandchildren. They're the stepchildren. Kimmy, what was the question? Oh, the question was, I think George said, like, within, not this stream, but, like, another stream that he had seen. Did you say you'd seen Panic! at the Disco live? Yes, I have seen Panic! at the Disco live. I'm so incredibly jealous. Milla has got to be so jealous. Oh, my gosh. You haven't been? He's better live than he is recorded, and that is just so incredibly rare. I've got to. Go ahead. No, I just, like, I want to see so many shows with you. Mm-hmm. Oh, Georgie. Yeah, I've got to see so many shows with you. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Three times saying Panic! for me, George. How many for you? Just the one time. I feel lucky enough to have come across Panic when they were in Denver and snagged a show a couple weeks before they got here. But, Dad, you like to see the small shows. I do, yeah. I also really avoid big shows. So no Pepsi Centers in Denver, none of the big stuff. It has to be something, a smaller venue. I saw Fall Out Boy at a very small venue near where I live, which is, like, nowhere in Northern California. And so that was a really fun one, other than the fact that they split the ticket with Wiz Khalifa, who went, like, an hour longer than they were supposed to. Oh, wow. Huh? Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. And so they shut off alcohol, like, within Wiz Khalifa's set, and then he went a lot longer than he was supposed to. So Wallet Boy was pretty short. But it was really cool that they were, like, ten minutes away from me, and I live in, like, rural northern California. in the show. But I've wanted to see Panic! at the Disco for a very long time because I've watched a lot of videos of the live performances, and it really does seem like he is a much better performer live than he is recorded. Well, I mean, he's pretty good recorded, though. He is very incredibly good recorded, and yet he somehow has the ability to be better live. Better live, yeah. Extremely rare. That's like Freddie Mercury stuff. Or Chris Cornell. Oh, I'm so sorry. I missed the good night to raise the right arm. Good night, should I make muffins? Good night, moon. You later, Tommy. Did you say good night, moon? I did say good night, moon. I don't agree with Brendan saying this, but when he was getting interviewed for their second record, Pretty Odd, he said that was the one where he really learned how to sing. Pretty Odd is by far my favorite album of theirs. And the thing I'm most singly, or I'm most disappointed by is that when I got to see Panic! at the Disco, it was not with all the people from the Pretty Odd album. It was with the release of, I think it was Death of a Bachelor, maybe? Ooh, okay. Personally, I think Death of a Bachelor is, like, an amazing album. It's a good album. So I have a similar, like, experience. So I saw Green Day, and it was not the American Idiot Tour. It was the tour after the American Idiot Tour. And so I didn't get that experience. And so, yeah, I kind of feel that. I totally understand that. Like, miss the album or before the album that really took your interest that much further kind of thing. I'm right there with you. I get that. That's all 30 seconds of ours. I watched Green Day twice. once in 2002 when I was far too young to be in a show but my older brother had tickets so he was babysitting and had to take me. That was also the first time I saw Blink-182. And then I got to see Blink-182 again in 2009 and 2011 and I got to see Green Day again in 2021. Oh my gosh. That's full circle. Yeah, that is. Those are some awesome shows. Also, by the way, how was 30 Seconds to Mars? Because I feel like the lead singer, I can't think of his name right now. I know he's the big actor. Jared Leto. Jared Leto. How's his voice live? Jared Leto's lead singer in 30 Seconds to Mars? As a person, I want to punch him in the face. Yes, yes. This gets him crazy. And his voice? How's his voice? It's just Jared Leto and the Jared Leto Band. I think I only know the one song from them. I don't think that would make you want to go to a concert. It literally wasn't an opinion at the time, but my buddy was taking his 16-year-old daughter and her friend, and he wanted me to go along just in case they got into a crowd, and he just wanted an extra person there, and I'm a big dude. You were the muscle? I was probably the muscle, yeah. But it ended up being pretty good. It was like three or four songs that I recognize. We got to keep the conversation going, George. Play another game, but also please put the camera back. When I saw Green Day in, I think it was 2004, Flogging Molly opened for them, and that has sparked, like, a lifelong, like, that is my favorite band, like, my entire life since I was 19. Please don't hate me. I'm more of a Dropkick Murphys fan. There's nothing to hate. You don't have to pit them against each other. They're both good. This is the Internet. You don't have to pick one. You just pay to subject if you don't have to. to pit things against each other. Hi, Oz Eric. Yeah, I totally get that. We have a good conversation going and I really don't want to end it. All right, all right, all right. Let's keep it going. More band conversation. Good idea. Change the camera. Thank you. So it's funny, though, because I know a lot of the viewers that came with Joe's raid know that Joe works with his brother and he does, like, parody songs and some original songs. And he does one, I believe it's a poem. It's called something about, I think it's the Ballad of Sam McGee. But then he and his brother did, like, a musical rendition of it that was set to, like, Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly. And it's so funny that when it comes up in my, like, iTunes, or not iTunes, but, like, Apple Music, like, recommendations, it only picks, like, one or the other. I don't know. Sorry. No. It's one of the things, the first time I heard that, like, I had seen a couple of Joe's streams before, and the first time he played that in entirety, I was like, all right, yeah, no, this is the person that I want to give money to. This is the person that I want to invest in. Because I love playing Molly, and I like Dropkick Marby. I don't have anything against them. It doesn't have to be war between us. It doesn't have to be one or the other. You can appreciate two Irish-sounding bands. I mean, I think they're both Irish. Well, I don't know enough. I know they sound Irish, but who knows? They could be very American. My best concert experience, I was at Slim's in San Francisco, which RIP doesn't exist anymore. But it's kind of a small venue in San Francisco. And Plogging Molly was performing. It was like close to my 21st birthday. and the lead singer, bless his heart, so there was this big, big, like, tall, like, burly guy that was, like, shoving women out of his way to make his way up to the stage, and the lead singer of Flogging Molly just shut the show down, shut it down, and he just starts berating this man, just verbally assaulting him, and so he left, and then they started performing again, because this I was one of the women. He pushed me aside and knocked me to the ground. And so I will never not, I cannot, I cannot ever not be a fan of Vlogging Mommy after that. That's awesome. What a cool story. Also, Game Club, absolutely cool if you talk about the giveaway. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the bands that actually do look out for their fans. Slipknot has been tremendous at that. And I'm not even related to the music. I just like the way it sounds, if that makes sense. I like the community. I'm not that big into the music either, but I know my brother is, and I know that the experiences he's had have just been 100% positive. I enjoy the instrumentals. Corey Taylor's vocals are just a little too feel-bad for me, for myself. Sorry, did you say Static X? No, Slipknot. Slipknot, sorry. I was thinking Static X. I never go see them. I know they're out touring again, but after Wayne died, no. You'll never be able to replicate that hair. Yeah. That's hard. Yeah. And the fact that their big breakout album kind of hits on me, it was called Wisconsin Death Trip. I'm like, oh, I used to have several problems. I've been on many of those. Oh, my God. Game Club Central. Anytime. Yeah, you guys. So I'm really quick here. So today being, I'm guessing, 5-3, the 3rd of May. Yeah, right there. At 9 p.m., learning to play Star Wars. Wait, which time zone? Learning to Play Star Wars Trilogy by Sega, which, by the way, I think is my favorite Star Wars implementation in a pinball machine. For the record, it's still 5-2 here, which means it's 5-3 for you. So 5-4 would be the next day. Okay, okay, got it. So 5-3, if you're in Mountain Time forward, we're still 17 minutes away from it being 5-3 if you're in Pacific Time Zone. But we're close. So 5-3 in Mountain Central and Eastern. Well, it's 5-3 regardless of your time zone. But today, if you're in Mountain Central or Eastern time zone, and if you're in Australia, I have no idea because I can't remember if you guys are like 14 hours or 18 hours ahead. You're like a day ahead. Yeah, you're more than 12 hours ahead, so it's a different day. Got it. It's in 9 o'clock p.m. Eastern Time, which would be 7 p.m. Mountain Time, 6 p.m. Pacific. And we don't even talk about Central because that's just such a small part of the United States. It's a good thing Joe is not here. Joe knows we've been reading for this. He's barely in Central. He's gone. Based on Central time, what are your schedules, Joe? Yep, yep. So, I have a fun Slipknot story. Uh-oh. I went to see Slipknot when I was... Can you hear me? No. Yes. No, you're coming in fine. Okay, thank you. I was not talking to you. I know. Oh, my gosh. So, I went to go see Slipknot when I was living in Virginia Beach. And now you're coming up. Now I'm coming up. Every time you move the microphone, you're cutting out. Hold on. I went to go see Slipknot when I was living in Virginia Beach. And while I was, I went to go see them at a place called the Boathouse. Oh, hello. Walk away from the machine. Oh, dear. And when I went to go see them, There was this band that was handing out their sample tape. And we're like, oh, cool. So I, like, put their tape in my bag. That was, like, fine. And it was a really great show. Like, they dropped two banners of the Backstreet Boys on either side of the stage. And it was like, you're tearing up my heart. That's insane. Sorry, I don't know. But then they lit them on fire, and they're like, ah, F this, F this. And then, like, guys, like, crawled across the rafters, and then they, like, went into their set in, like, their jumpsuits and, like, ah. It was amazing. What band is this that you're describing? Slipknot. Okay. Slipknot. Sorry. So, I have to, like, respond to this as a child slash teenager of that era. and like the amount of grown ass men who took offense to the things that teenage girls liked in that era and took it to that extent is just kind of like sad because like I was like 15 my first concert was the Backstreet Boys and I don't feel bad about that I was a 15 year old girl and the amount of men that got angry about that kind of stuff like oh boy bands it's like why do you feel like that makes you cooler? Like why do you feel like that makes you seem like a more interesting person to just not like the thing that teenage girls like? They don't like the thing. You don't have to drag them for it. Yeah. Legit, it was just a different type of commercialism. Well, have you guys ever seen the basic bro video? Right? Like somebody who gets all upset at a boy band? Like that's silly. Like, it's popular music, and a lot of people are into it. There's no reason to get upset. There's a lot of people who love cake. Oh, go ahead. Have you met a typical man? Yes. Yes, I have. Okay. And so here's where I'm coming from. I spent the, like, majority of my life, every single male person that I interacted with was like, I love metal music or I love classic rock or whatever it was that they liked. And anything, anything that I liked, oh, no, they shit on it. It doesn't matter if it was rock. It doesn't matter if it was pop. It doesn't matter what it was. Anything that a girl liked, my entire life growing up until I was like 25, every man that I ever encountered thought that it was a personality to just dump on anything that women liked or anything that girls liked. I would call that a bad sitch. Well, yeah, it was a really awful time to grow up as a human being who was not a woman. No, legit. It was just a different type of marketing, and that's what I contributed to, is just a different type of marketing. It is what type of marketing did you subject yourself to? And I, so as a social science major for my undergrad, at, like, look at, like, the people who reject things like that, and it is the same type of your brain, same part of your brain that attracts you to things like that. So, the same part of your brain that attracts you to boy bands and whatever is the same part of your brain that rejects boy bands. So, the same part of your brain is activated for the, like, I don't know, the guys who whatever rejected boy bands. Daisy, you're kind of cutting out, like, every couple words. Biscuits and gravy. I don't eat the biscuits. I don't understand what the issue is. I don't know what it is either. I'm holding the mic right in my hand. I think it's the sound of the machine is kind of, like, overriding the microphone. By the way, Dice handed it out because he wants to go make some fresh fried chicken to take to bed with him. And he didn't say something about Pink being a great singer. Pink is a great singer. Not all songs are great. She is a great singer. She is phenomenal. She's got a unique sound to her. So, but anyways, the point of the story was that, like, when I got home, can you hear me still? Yeah. When I got home and I put the tape of that group that was marketing themselves at that Slipknot concert, I'm going to date myself and I'm going to age myself right here, right now. I put the cassette in my little boom box that I had in my room that I was, like, renting from my roommate. I, like, I was, like. Well, it's a real Zaytrak, so, you know. Yeah. Well, because, like, I had, like, a CD boom box that people, like, it was cheaper to, like, have that cassette. They were so simple. and and so like I had like this boom box with like detachable speakers that like had like like I could like like you're talking about the Iowa cd slash tape boom box yeah yeah but you could like take the speakers and detach them and put them to like different parts of your room you can have like the wire so but like I put that cassette like because like the band was like promoting themselves like hey, give us a listen, you know, like, give us, you know, like, while we were standing in line at the boathouse at Virginia Beach, and so, like, whatever, I put it in my purse, like, whatever, it was a single, like, two or three songs, so, like, and the band that opened for them was Kitty, which I, by the way, the most amazing death metal chick band ever, Kitty. I think I know that band, actually. Yeah, me too. It was amazing. But, like, I got home, like, and, like, the next day, like, I was like, like, whatever. I didn't drink or anything. But I put the cassette in my thing, and the first thing I heard was, wah! Oh! I freaking met the members of Disturbed. They were like, give us a listen. Give us a listen. Try us out, man. like where have you been coming that's how old I am that's how old I am you got hit up by when they were still in the oh my god please listen to our TV listen to my next tape and I was like and I was like they're single for free and now I'm iconic yeah I'm like yeah I'm just like okay and that that night I was in a mosh pit at Slipknot, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like, punching people, and I, like, got, like, elbowed in the face, like, five times, and my friend Scotty, like, grabbed me, because I was, like, a hundred pounds, and he was yanking me out of the monster, because I was, like, bloody, and it was, like, I was, like, still throwing punches, and he was, like, no, no, no, because, like, everybody was, like, throwing their, like, wallet chains, because no wallet chains were allowed, no body jewelry was allowed in the mosh pit. And I was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and just kicking everybody. And then, like, yeah, and the next day I was just like, my balls are going to be so loud. And they were just picking you up like a spare kitten just to get you out of there. Yeah, exactly, like, okay, let's just get you out of there. Yeah, my friend Scotty was just like, I was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then, like, punches on. And, like, my friend Scotty, like, literally grabbed me by my shoulder, and I was like, What's going on? Because I was little and tiny. Yeah, that's my flip-flop story. Okay. That's a good one. That was a good one. You guys, thank you so much for hanging out tonight. We had Sammy Higgins, Surreal, Ice Ski-Doo. Thank you, Devin Craig. Dance Panda, Joe Hills, I Only Seek Eurydice, and myself all on stream. That was redonk. thank you everybody for hanging out that was a great night cheers and if you're still drinking something cheers to everyone else out there as well cheers empty hands but cheers I'm hungry I'm sorry what did they ask you to do thank you for the entertainment oh my gosh thank you so much for hanging out you guys have a great night it's Monday we will be back on tomorrow with a new game. We are putting Guardians of the Galaxy into somewhere else. Check on your hat. Stop it. Okay. For a little bit. I'm not sure what we're going to be playing in this place. And you guys have a great night. That's... Oh, so, sorry. We have to do some shout-outs at some point here. Check out Sammy Higgins. Surreal underscore seven. I Ski-Doo. Ski-Doo. Joe Hill. We just got a follow while we're doing shout-outs. Who was that? That was... Who's the follow? That was, wow, two follows, both right there. We've got Darelmo and Zequel. Thank you so much for those follows. That's appreciated. You have a hat. I do? Oh, I can actually take my hat off. Thank you. He can't say hello or shout himself out. And it feels weird. Yeah, it feels super weird. And then there was Joe Hills, and then finally Dance Panda, who I have yet to talk into actually doing workout streams, but at some point... I will get there. I'm in school right now. Right, eventually. We'll make that happen. She's busy. Yeah, yeah. I manage over 100 people. You're very important, and you drive a Dodge Stratus. I'm not important. I just... No, no, no. I was quoting Will Ferrell. alright Will alright let's go check out I don't know who's streaming right now you know what, LaserLos is doing a 24 hour stream so what is LaserLos not streaming it's like a 24 hour stream yeah, it's a 24 hour stream with, by the way, if we can get him to a certain donation level, he will shave his head on stream time let's do it let's do it Let's do it. All right. You guys have a great day. All right, then. Laser Los. Yeah, exactly. 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