Episode 1111: "Which Stars Wars Will It Be?"

Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)·podcast_episode·36m 7s·analyzed·Jul 8, 2025

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TL;DR

Kaneda speculates Stern may remake Star Wars Original Trilogy, predicts Tron remaster, and critiques pinball market pricing.

Summary

Kaneda discusses Stern's next major release after Jaws 50th, speculating whether it will be Star Wars Original Trilogy (Episodes IV-VI) rather than the Prequel Trilogy, which would represent an unprecedented burn of the 8,000 owners of the prior Steve Ritchie Star Wars game. He also predicts a Tron remaster coinciding with Disney's film rerelease, analyzes Harry Potter production delays and AI artwork controversy, critiques Dutch Pinball manufacturing pace, and reviews secondary market pricing for high-end machines, dismissing most listings as overpriced.

Key Claims

Stern Pinball sold approximately 8,000 units of the original Steve Ritchie Star Wars game
medium confidence · Kaneda, discussing prior Star Wars game sales and risk of a remake
Harry Potter has shipped only 50-54 units to America as of early July, 7 months after October release
high confidence · Kaneda, citing production delay metrics for Jersey Jack's Harry Potter
Jaws 50th Anniversary edition features new playfield, glitter, wire forms, and new code allowing wizard mode completion in approximately 20 minutes
high confidence · Kaneda, describing Jaws 50th features and code improvements
Jersey Jack has never successfully performed a total redo of code that made a game significantly better
medium confidence · Kaneda, commenting on Jersey Jack's historical code update performance
Disney is remastering the original Tron movie, creating an opportunity for Stern to remaster the Tron pinball machine in October
medium confidence · Kaneda, speculating on Tron remaster timing and Disney relationship
Over 40% of survey respondents cited price fatigue as the #1 reason for not buying new in-box games
high confidence · Kaneda, citing survey data on purchasing barriers
Metallica Remaster LEs sold for $18,000 at peak during COVID but have depreciated to $10-11,000
high confidence · Kaneda, discussing secondary market depreciation patterns using Metallica as example
Ken Cromwell's departure from Jersey Jack may have been motivated by communication failures around the AI artwork error
low confidence · Kaneda, speculating on reasons for Cromwell leaving Jersey Jack
Dutch Pinball needs to produce 500 Alice in Wonderland games by year-end but is severely behind schedule
high confidence · Kaneda, calculating production deficit (only 50-54 units in 7 months)

Notable Quotes

“How easy it would have been to have a real Death Star opening in which the ball could go into it and you get one freaking shot and all the lights on the machine turn off and you have to use the force to put the ball and you get one shot to do it. I don't understand, right?”
Kaneda @ ~20:00 — Core criticism of original Star Wars pinball game design, establishing why a remake would be commercially justified
“If you own a Star Wars right now, you might be thinking about listing it for sale because you could always get it back for what you're going to get for it right now, but you better hurry up.”
Kaneda @ ~25:00 — Direct market prediction about secondary market impact if Star Wars Original Trilogy is announced
“I can just hear Obi-Wan right now, I just felt a major disturbance in the pinball force as if 8 pinball owners cried out in pain.”
Kaneda @ ~23:30 — Humorous articulation of the impact on original Star Wars game owners if remake happens
“Are you still going to take your huge vacation in August while your customers don't have their products risking your company's survival?”
Kaneda @ ~50:00 — Criticism of Dutch Pinball's work-life balance prioritization amid production crisis
“King Kong just feels like another Stern. And again, without any assets, when you jump on Dune, you definitely feel I'm not saying that you should be playing a game that is integrating the theme much better.”
Kaneda @ ~65:00 — Comparative analysis showing Dune's superior theme integration vs. King Kong
“Magic Girl everybody... it's like standing in front of a beautiful woman who uses her teeth when she's doing you know what. I mean that's it.”
Kaneda @ ~95:00 — Harsh assessment of Magic Girl's playability despite aesthetic appeal, justifying low valuation
“The problem is both of those games look like $8,500 games and you know it and I know it.”
Kaneda @ ~80:00 — Blunt market reality check on King Kong and Guardians secondary pricing

Entities

KanedapersonStern PinballcompanyJersey Jack Pinballcompany Dutch PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyChicago Gaming Company (CGC)companyPinball BronxcompanyMultimorphiccompany

Signals

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rumor_hype: Kaneda discusses circulating rumor that Stern may remake Star Wars Original Trilogy (Episodes IV-VI) rather than Prequels, contrasting with earlier Ritchie game based on original trilogy. Kaneda estimates 50% confidence this will happen, noting it would be unprecedented competitive burn.
medium · Kaneda: 'Now I'm hearing that Stern Pinball, knowing they need a big hit, might be making Star Wars episodes four, five and six, the original trilogy... I still think it's going to be episode one through three because I don't think Stern's going to want to burn all those 8,000 people who own those other Star Wars machines.'
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rumor_hype: Kaneda predicts with high confidence that Stern will announce a Tron remaster in October to coincide with Disney's Tron movie re-release, citing Stern-Disney relationship and marketing timing.
medium · Kaneda: 'Disney is remastering the original Tron movie right now. What better time for Stern Pinball to remaster Tron than right now? And because Stern has the relationship with Disney, come on, it's so obviously I'm going to be a new Tron machine coming out in October.'
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product_concern: Jersey Jack's Harry Potter game is severely behind production schedule: only 50-54 units shipped to America by July (7 months post-October launch), with 500 units needed by year-end. Kaneda predicts maximum 300 units will be completed by December 31st.
high · Kaneda: 'Games number 50 and 54 are in America, 7 months in! And they need to make 500 of these games in the next 5 months. Not happening... by the time Dutch actually gets this thing together, I think they're only going to make like, I don't know, like 300 at most by the end of this year.'
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product_concern: Kaneda criticizes Dutch Pinball for insufficient production capacity and questions whether company is taking adequate measures (multiple shifts, overtime, new hires) to meet Alice in Wonderland deadline, suggesting continued vacation time and normal operations despite crisis.

Transcript

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The movie was a sequel to the original movie of the same name, which is a new hope Return of the Jedi and Empire Strikes Back. I got the order wrong right there. It is New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. And so would Stern do that? We're going to talk about that because that would be in the history of Stern Moves. That would be the biggest burn ever, ever. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about what's going on in Harry Potter world. We're going to talk about what's going on in the pinball world. And then we're going to just go on pin side and see what are people trying to sell for $14,000 or more. And let's ask ourselves, are these good prices or crack pipe prices? All right, let's get right into it. So Jaws 50th is out. I think people are sort of like a little lukewarm on it. If you were waiting on a Jaws premium, of course you're going to order this version of the game. I think it has some things people like, the new playfield, the glitter, all that stuff is good. The new wire forms and the new code is amazing. So Jaws is a game now where you can see the final wizard mode in about 20 minutes. I love it when people are still like, I hope Keith stays true to his promise and puts another sort of like super duper wizard mode if you complete everything in the game. Let me tell you right now, how many of you will ever be able to complete everything in that game? Start every single mode and then get to some super duper wizard mode. Like nobody, nobody! So why should Stern take resources away from other games and go code in something that nobody is ever going to see? I know he might have said that but this game's been out for a year and a half He's got King Kong out that is not selling crazy well And so where do you think Stern is going to apply its resources to Jaws a game? I'm not sure if you're familiar with the game that's already sold pretty well for Stern and has been out for a year and a half and now they're making all this new money on the 50th. They're not going to go back. I doubt it. Maybe they will. I don't know. Like Lyman Sheets used to go back years later and put more stuff into a game. So who knows? But that's not going to make or break this game for anybody. Now, I still think Stern went a little cheap on the overall presentation of this game. I think when they're highlighting stuff like stickers, they I hope Mike at Automated gets one real soon. I will go over there and play this game and report what Jaws 50th looks like in real life. I wish the premiums got the inner art blades. It's the one thing, it's like why? Why can't we get inner art blades? Well, you know the answer. Stern wants you to spend another like 200 bucks on something that cost them $20. What's the number one thing that is keeping you from buying new in box games? And the number one answer with over 40 something percent was price fatigue. So you guys are just over these high prices. And then the second place answer was you're just tired of seeing the secondhand depreciation of all of these games. So the games are too expensive to buy new in box. And then if you do buy them new in box, you're tired of losing so much money. Welcome to modern pinball. And I don't blame you for waiting. It's the smart thing to do. All right, so Jaws 50th. Now, King Kong is not going to have a second life. Jaws 50th is out. Now everyone's waiting for the next This version species, Bonnie Puesington,alpha Ryes,FandiNy9 and Dr. The game. But now I'm hearing that Stern Pinball, knowing they need a big hit, might be making Star Wars episodes four, five and six, the original trilogy. Here's the problem. They already made that game. They made that game with Steve Ritchie. The other problem is they sold. I heard they sold about 8000 units of that Star Wars game. So really interesting question here, because Everybody out there knows that they had all the assets for that game and Richie made a total dog. It is a total miss creatively underneath that glass. The tie fighter on the spring. Why is the hyperdrive the main mech in that game? Where's the AT-AT? Where's the sensation of shooting the ball into the Death Star? I mean think about how stupid this is. How easy it would have been to have a real Death Star opening in which the ball could go into it and you get one freaking shot and all the lights on the machine turn off and you have to use the force to put the ball and you get one shot to do it. I don't understand, right? There's no sensation of the force. There's no magnets in Star Wars. There's no lightsabers clashing. Everything in that game, that little LCD screen is so lazy and you're just slapping. The game is a disaster. And yet they had all the assets. The theme song. All the clips. And then Dwight goes and destroys the code by stacking all the movies on top of themselves. What you do not feel in that Star Wars game. You do not feel like you are going through the movies. It should be when you start a game, it should be like you select the movie you want to play first. The way Evil Dead is Evil Dead 1 or 2. I should select A New Hope and go through that storyline. If there ever was a movie and a trilogy where fans want to go through the journey in a linear fashion, it is freaking Star Wars. You can't chop it up. The whole point of that story only unfolds in the right way if you tell it in a linear fashion. And for those of you who say, well, pinball is not a linear game and it's going to get boring going on a linear journey. No, it's not. Yeah, some movies that might be the case, but I'll tell you one where it's not the case. Star Wars. You don't mess with perfection. And those three movies are about as perfect as it gets. Also, we know that Stern pinball is not a fan of Steve Richie, so they don't mind burning him. It would be much more commercially successful to do the original trilogy versus the prequels. But man, this would be the biggest burn in the history of Stern because if they did this, 8,000 owners, I can just hear Obi-Wan right now, I just felt a major disturbance in the The pinball force as if 8 pinball owners cried out in pain I mean that what it would be like because anyone who owns an original anyone who owns the Ritchie pinball machine would be kicking themselves and want to get out And Stern never done this before They haven They never remade a title that they made previously like this I haven seen them ever do it They never made another Lord of the Rings They never made another Tron They never really done this And so we going to see this real soon We going to see this in the next couple of months So I don know I still think it's going to be episode one through three because I don't think Stern's going to want to burn all those 8,000 people who own those other Star Wars machines. I do know this. If you own a Star Wars right now, you might be thinking about listing it for sale because you could always get it back for what you're going to get for it right now, but you better hurry up. I love watching when there's a rumor about something coming back, you see all of a sudden these games go up for sale. When we knew that Metallica was coming back, remember that? Like guys were trying to get 18,000 for their old Metallica LEs, then it was like 16 firm, and then it's all the way down now to like 10 or $11,000 for those original Metallica LEs. You gotta play the market. And I love it when people are like, I don't care. I had my years of fun. It's like get out of here. If you bought a Metallica for like $6,500 and you could have got $18 for it and you would have if you sold during COVID, you're telling me you don't care that you lost $8,000 on a potential flip value for the game? Because if you sold it for $18, you could go back and buy it for $11. You still would have made $7,000. You would have had a free game. We all wish we made moves like that. Alright, so that's John Borg and then I'm just gonna say it right now. It has to be Tron. It has to be Tron remastered. It's not gonna be The Walking Dead. Disney is remastering the original Tron movie right now. What better time for Stern Pinball to remaster Tron than right now? And because Stern has the relationship with Disney, come on, it's so obviously I'm going to be a new Tron machine coming out in October to coincide with the movie. Now, if you're looking at your Tron LE right now, another game that you bought for like 5700 bucks. Remember when that was the game where we were like 10K by Christmas, they were selling for like 18, 19,000 at the height of COVID. If you've got a Tron LE, trust me, sell it. Sell it! The new game is gonna be better in every single way and whatever you sell it for, if they don't come out with the new one, you'll be able to buy one back. But you might as well do the smart thing and get rid of it right now. The problem now is I think everyone's gonna start to realize it's not Walking Dead, it's gonna be Tron and no one's gonna now pay those huge asking prices for a Tron LE. I can't wait if Stern makes a neutron with a new platform. By the way, speaking of new platforms, where is Spike3? Where is it? It's going to have a bigger screen. I'll tell you where it's going to come out. What's the one theme where they could justify a price increase with a bigger screen? Star Wars, hello, ding, ding, ding. So we are absolutely going to see the $500 price increase across the guest TJ

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20 or 25 hours after press a button to play like this 20 21 ich unwilling ok The game is beautiful. As much as we know, the gameplay is not there, the software is not there, but what is there is absolutely stunning. But what should be of concern is it is July, people. Let's count it. January, February, March, April, May, June, July. We're in the seventh month of the year. And games number 50 and 54 are in America, 7 months in! And they need to make 500 of these games in the next 5 months. Not happening. So they really behind schedule I thought by now by July remember this game came out in October of last year and they said production was going to begin in January So, by the time Dutch actually gets this thing together, I think they're only going to make like, I don't know, like 300 at most by the end of this year. Are any of us surprised? This is still Dutch Pinball. Old habits die hard. This company's been around for like 13 years, 12 years. They've only made one game, Big Lebowski. This is Dutch Pinball Alexis game. Melvin made this game. This game was not made by Dutch. It was made by Melvin and Dutch Pinball is basically like a contract manufacturer Assembling a game Melvin designed this game in a year in a year He got the game ready for market he gave it and it saved Dutch pinball remember They don't have back to the future ready, but it's not even close It's not even close and so when Lebowski orders dried up which they did this company had nothing to go on the line So without Alice Dutch pinball is over game over game set match all the EA's were made whole But that doesn't change the fact that this company doesn't have the experience Switching over to another game. They don't have two lines going and here we are seven months Talk about a delay. That's a significant delay There's not that many games going out and now with the topper Barry's got to find a new vendor and also with tariffs This game's gonna cost a lot more money. I don't know. I don't know what I do know is this in the Netherworld I bet they're not working as hard as they would here. And what I mean by that, and I have friends over there, guys, it's real simple. If you're this far behind in your production schedule of making this game, let me ask you guys a question. Are you still going to take your huge vacation in August while your customers don't have their products risking your company's survival? Because if everybody asked for refunds that could put you guys under, are you still going to take that vacation? Let me ask you a question, Dutch. Are you guys working around the clock to make up for all the lost time? Are you doing two shifts? Are you going to bring in some new workers? I bet you're not. I bet it's still just business as usual. That's work and we need a work-life balance and that's the thing. It's like I'm sorry but sometimes in life you got to stay late. There's been many, many times over the last few months I've been working to 1, 2 in the morning because I had to meet a deadline. Your deadline is 500 games by December 31st. Are you going to do what it takes to achieve that or are you going to still take the long vacation? Have all those bank holidays? Are you still going to operate like the old Dutch? So we shall see. Canada in America on 4th of July putting the hammer down on European manufacturing. Speaking of European manufacturing, Pinball Bronx I'm seeing all these Facebook ads and again, I don't know. I think the only thing left now is this. People have to jump on this machine and give it a glowing review. That's their only way out. They definitely did not get a ton of orders with the Arnold list game. They're now going to have to get good word of mouth. The problem they face is this game isn't even on the line until sometime in August. Simplest and these are two kinds of subject, Let me think about it. If a new Tron is about to come out, are you really, really, oh yeah, let me go in on a $15,000 Predator. It's not happening. It's just not happening. You know, and speaking of like getting people on the game is like the only way out for Predator, I'm hearing more good stuff about people playing Dune Pinball and then ordering it. I just talked to Wayne over in Australia. He said, Chris, I just sold five more. People played it. They really loved it and they ordered the game. And look, that's the way out for Dune. I've always said it. They need to get people on the game. They need to get them to experience it. When you put Dune next to King Kong, it just feels like a much more premium package. It does. Kong just feels like another Stern. And again, without any assets, when you jump on Dune, you definitely feel I'm not saying that you should be playing a game that is integrating the theme much better. It's still comical to me that you could make a King Kong pinball machine and not have the Empire State Building in it. That is like making Jaws and not having the Orca in the game. Okay, so Doom Pinball, I want to go play it. I think Automated might get one soon. I think everybody is in a place now where you're not rushing to order any of these games. 1-8 Asensiors Newer Unlimited run game. You're going to be able to get it forever. There's going to be so many out there and you don't need to have it right now. The code isn't done. Let them polish the code for the next four to five months then go buy a CE for like 12. That's what they're going to go for. They're going to keep making them until the cows come home and once all these arcade editions and Wizard editions get made, all those CEs are not going to be more special. They're going to be less special. You're going to be able to get everything. The King Kong Jaws Anything So I think it's a good summer to just take off Let these companies keep making games and then wait to the fall because think about it. I would wait until

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November to pull the trigger maybe October because I think by then you're gonna see Star Wars Well, you might have to pull the trigger on Star Wars. Let's be honest if they make a thousand report final for That's FOMO. If it's based on the prequels, I don't think so. I think that's a whole different kind of movie. I think those movies don't have the same gravitational pull, if you will, on our hearts. Alright, so that's what's happening over there. There's just a lot of other stuff happening, like where's Cuphead, Cary Hardy said July, we shall see. Where's the Pedretti Gaming Toten? I don't know. Where's Merlin's Arcade from Turner Pinball? I don't know. Where's the Merlin edition of Medieval Madness Royal Edition? I love those guys are like, I didn't realize it was gonna take... Where were you? Who the heck ordered that game and thought they were actually gonna get it this summer? What a ridiculous company. I will say this. I think CGC is ridiculous. I would go nowhere near them. The customer experience with that company is horrendous. And I would not The I can march in right now with no drama and get a Pulp Fiction L.E. for so much less money and not have my money tied up and have no drama and not only that every time mister sharp talks he's always very snarky and I hate it why do they have such arrogance and ego and they always make these snarky comments it's like get your house in order really get it in order because it's a joke Your entire company, the way you reveal a game, take people's money, and then go radio silent, it's a total joke, and I would never run my company like that. Alright, let's look at a few games real quick that are $14,000 or more, and let's ask ourselves, good price or crack pipe price? Alright Pirates of the Caribbean CE this is for a Pirates CE reduced from I don know it has all the Lior mods in it but I just think the notion of dropping on a Pirates is not going to happen And the reason why is this As I was saying earlier I think some of these newbie suckers would buy it I do The problem is the newbie suckers haven had a chance to play it There just not enough of these games 노래):a from fm, behind scene, movie syllables, drama, trolly, asma, I think Godzilla LE is now around like $13,500 maybe. It didn't go down as much as it would have gone down if King Kong was a hit. But King Kong is not a hit and so Godzilla LE holds more value. Guardians of the Galaxy LE for $16,000. Berm! Remember when it was like so easy to get this game for like $8,500? I think new in box Guardians LEs were available for a long time. I don't see 16,000 here. I do think you get 13 for it. I do. You remember Guardians has got an LCD screen. They only made I think like 500 of them. The game's got pretty decent theme integrations, got some weird voiceover work. You know, are you going to spend 13,000 on a King Kong where they made a thousand that nobody wants that has terrible theme integration? Or would you spend 13 On a Guardians because I don't think Stern's like up the game that much. If you put a Guardians next to a King Kong and you say this King Kong is 13, well that sort of makes the Guardians look like it's also worth 13. It's also got a beautiful art package by Christopher Franchi. The problem is is neither of them is worth 13. The problem is both of those games look like $8,500 games and you know it and I know it. Alright, Evil Dead The game is hot. They are sold out only $8.88 and now it's gone up in value. I feel so happy for Bug and Luke. They've done it. They've crossed the Rubicon. They now have made a collectible pin that's actually fun to play unlike Rick and Morty, shoots like a dog. Evil Dead, man, if Evil Dead's going for $14.5, get ready for Beetlejuice or Gremlins to add a few thousand dollars on top of that. Medieval Madness Royal Edition remake. Just say Royal Edition, we know what you're talking about. Fifteen firm, nobody's paying that. The reason why no one's gonna pay 15 now for a Royal is we've got these Merlin editions. The end of the C-G-C. No one cares anymore. Nobody cares and it's like I said, I think C-G-C is a company that is just annoying. We got a Tron LE. This person knows what's coming. Tron LE 16.5 or best offer. There's only 400 of these. I have to say this. I love the description here. It was a relentless pursuit to finally acquire one and I hate offering it. Okay, sure. You know why you hate offering it for $16.5? Cause you know Tron Remastered is coming and you're gonna go get one of those. I love the stories, I don't wanna do this, then don't do it! Don't do it! Nobody's making you sell a pinball machine! I just love it. My favorite for sale is when people are like, this game's just not for me, I just don't enjoy it. Like why would you ever say that? Alright, Ghostbusters LE $16.5 or best offer. There's another Ghostbusters LE for 16. Ummm, I don't know. This is another game that is always on the radar for remake potential. I still think Ghostbusters LE is one of the most beautiful Stern machines of all time. It shoots like a dog, it really does. It's not a fun game to shoot, but it is a fun game to play. Weird, right? That those two things can happen at the same time. But to simply see one is to see a stunning game. I think Ghostbusters LE though, eh, I think like 14.5. I think that's where these games are gonna start moving. 14.5, because both these games don't have the topper. Now if you have the topper, then yeah, you might get 16.5 for it. Aerosmith LE with the topper, the guy wants 14,000. Get out of town, man. Look, it's just hard for me because I remember when Aerosmith came out, There wasn't much frenzy for it. It's not a $14,000 game. Everybody, this is why we're all just like, come on, man. Like, we know you bought this game for like $8,000, $8,500. You know, you want to make some money, sell it for $11,000. Don't sell it for $14,000. A Jaws LE with Topper, $14,500 and it's sold. Not surprised. I'm not surprised. Jaws LEs have held value. Here's one that hasn't. Metallica Remastered LE, well it has held value, but $13.9. This just goes to show you, man, these things were selling for $18 when it dropped. $18, now $13.9, which is almost asking price. Let's see if there's anything else interesting here. Another Evil Dead for $14.75, not sold yet. A Hep Restored Addams Family for $16.5. A Pirates of the Caribbean LE for $18.00. Another Ghostbusters LE for $15.05. Wow, there's three Ghostbusters LEs for sale. And this is interesting. Why? Is it just because the gameplay? Or maybe Ghostbusters might be coming back. Sometimes I like to just look at what's for sale because some of these big time collectors, these big shots, they're friends with the folks over at Stern and it is sometimes a place Tilt your head and see if you can get a hint of what might be coming back. Like a Kiss LE here for $15.5. There's been rumors about Kiss coming back. I wouldn't spend $15.5 on Kiss. It's just not that good of a game. But here, look, ACDC LE, the back in black edition sold for $14.9. That's crazy. That's absolutely crazy. And then there is a lonely MagicGirl for $32,000. This thing's been up here forever. What this guy needs to do, and I mean this, take $10,000 off that price. Nobody wants this MagicGirl anymore. Like the whole John Papadiuk, it's beautiful but it's not fun to play. It's not worth it because I owned one. And trust me, it's just not worth it. The conversation you're gonna have and the only people that care that you have a magic girl aren't people worth impressing and the enjoyment it will bring you is very very short-lived. Trust me, it is so short-lived because you stand over the machine and it looks like it's gonna be amazing and it's like standing in front of a beautiful woman who uses her teeth when she's doing you know what. I mean that's it. That's it. That's Magic Girl everybody. Look, have a great Tuesday. We'll be back with more episodes of Kenea's Pinball Podcast. Thank you for being a member and we'll talk to you real soon.