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Dungeon Crawler Carl, Bon Jovi & Ender's Game PINBALL ARE REAL! | Dr. C & Mrs. J React

Pinball Pursuit·video·40m 41s·analyzed·Jul 31, 2026
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TL;DR

Hosts react to Bon Jovi, Ender's Game, and Dungeon Crawler Carl pinball announcements with mixed enthusiasm.

Summary

Mrs. J and Dr. C from Pinball Pursuit react to three newly announced pinball machines: Bon Jovi (Barrels of Fun), Ender's Game (Multimorphic), and Dungeon Crawler Carl (Multimorphic). They discuss design choices, themes, gameplay mechanics, and express mixed enthusiasm—praising the innovative outer lane flipper on Bon Jovi and the thematic fit of Dungeon Crawler Carl, while questioning unconventional choices like Ender's Game and noting frustration with limited access to play Multimorphic P3 machines before committing to purchase.

Key Claims

  • Barrels of Fun is producing 700 units of Bon Jovi, compared to 525 for Winchester

    high confidence · Mrs. J states directly: 'They're making 700. Oh, 700K. Okay. How many Winchesterers did they make? 525.'

  • Barrels of Fun Reserve members have one week to decide on a machine after it sells out, giving approximately two weeks total decision time

    high confidence · Mrs. J explains the reserve program timeline: 'If it sells out in a week... you have one week. So they have until it sells out and then you have one week after... you would essentially have two weeks to decide.'

  • There are only 22 Multimorphic machine locations in the continental United States

    medium confidence · Dr. C states: 'There are 22 locations in the continental United States that you can go play a multimmorphic machine on.'

  • Dungeon Crawler Carl books were started by Dr. C three weeks before the conversation, reading one per week

    high confidence · Mrs. J asks 'How long ago did you start book one?' Dr. C replies: 'Three weeks ago. I've been reading one book a week.'

  • The first Dungeon Crawler Carl book was published in 2021 and the series now has eight books total

    high confidence · Mrs. J states: 'The first one came out in 2021' and 'How many books are there? Eight.'

  • Dungeon Crawler Carl machine uses Jeff Hays, the actual audiobook narrator, for all voice callouts

    high confidence · Dr. C reveals: 'It's the actual narrator of the audiobooks that everyone loves' and Mrs. J confirms: 'Jeff Hays is his name... he is incredible.'

  • Dungeon Crawler Carl will feature content from all eight books, selectable at game start, with only the first book currently complete

    high confidence · Mrs. J explains: 'At the start of the game you can pick which book to start in... they only have the first book done right now, but they plan for all of them.'

  • Bon Jovi is designed by Jeff (assumed to be a Barrels designer) who was 'fantastic' at Texas Pinball Festival

Notable Quotes

  • “I would buy that unflipped sight unplayed because you'd have seen it.”

    Dr. C @ early — Expresses absolute enthusiasm for a hypothetical Muppets pinball machine, establishing the 'dream theme' concept and demonstrating buying behavior for certain licensed properties.

  • “I just say, 'WELCOME TO THE CLUB' because I made a list of music pins... Iron Maiden, no. Metallica? No. Led Zeppelin? No. Guns and Roses. No. Kiss. AC/DC. No. Rush.”

    Mrs. J @ mid-Bon Jovi section — Demonstrates the common experience of music pin collectors enjoying machines despite personal dislike of the band's music; normalizes Bon Jovi as another music pin in a collection.

  • “You can like a machine regardless of the band. That's true... I enjoyed the machine Metallica and didn't love the Metallica music.”

    Mrs. J @ mid-Bon Jovi section — Core philosophy: game design quality transcends theme appeal; reinforces expectation that Bon Jovi will be well-executed despite theme uncertainty.

  • “The outer lane save flipper is super cool. I like skill-based saves for your balls... probably my favorite part.”

    Dr. C @ Bon Jovi gameplay discussion — Highlights Bon Jovi's innovative mechanical design feature—the guitar-shaped outer lane flipper—as a standout design choice in music pins.

  • “You almost have to kind of go with the theme like a story line... this is just Bon Jovi. And so like they're doing like the whole you we're trying to create the concert experience.”

    Mrs. J @ Bon Jovi aesthetic analysis — Acknowledges design challenge: music pins lack inherent narrative, so design focuses on concert experience rather than story depth.

  • “Ender's Game is a weird property... to make a pinball machine. It's interesting. It's definitely out of the blue. Yes. One that I would not have guessed.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ Ender's Game section — Captures industry consensus that Ender's Game is an unconventional, surprising choice for a pinball IP adaptation.

  • “Spoiler alert, Ender commits genocide in the book. Yeah. Unknowingly does it, but he still does it.”

Entities

Mrs. JpersonDr. CpersonBarrels of FuncompanyMultimorphiccompanyBon JovigameEnder's GamegameDungeon Crawler Carlgame

Signals

  • ?

    announcement: Three new pinball machines officially announced: Bon Jovi (Barrels of Fun), Ender's Game (Multimorphic), and Dungeon Crawler Carl (Multimorphic).

    high · Hosts state these are 'three machines' being discussed as real announcements; specific production numbers provided for Bon Jovi (700 units); detailed mechanical descriptions and gameplay footage referenced.

  • ?

    product_strategy: Barrels of Fun using Barrels Reserve Club membership model to create FOMO and committed reserve demand; Mrs. J purchased $75 membership and hopes to use it but fears no games will sell out.

    high · Mrs. J: 'I purchased the Barrels Reserve Club program... $75 on very expensive rubber ducks... I hope that they announce another game before my subscription runs out.'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Bon Jovi features guitar-shaped outer lane flipper for skilled ball saves; innovative addition to music pin category inspired by song 'Shoot Through the Heart.'

    high · Dr. C: 'The outer lane save flipper is super cool... it's shaped like a guitar... probably my favorite part.' Thematic connection to song lyrics mentioned explicitly.

  • ?

    design_innovation: Ender's Game features empathy vs. aggression balance mechanic represented through in-game choices, reflecting core psychological themes from novel.

    medium · Mrs. J: 'You have to balance between empathy and aggression... if you're empathy you'll recruit your teammates better. But if you're on aggression, you'll win battles more easily.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Ender's Game pinball presents bright, colorful, family-friendly design that conflicts with dark psychological YA novel featuring genocide, child soldiers, and trauma.

Transcript

supadata_caption · $0.001

0:00
Three two one go.
0:13
Welcome to Pinball Pursuit. I'm Mrs. Jay.
0:15
And I'm Dr. C. And uh today we thought we were going to talk about one machine.
0:20
Psych.
0:22
And then it was two.
0:23
And then it was two.
0:24

medium confidence · Mrs. J: 'Jeff, who was fantastic to us at Texas Pinball Festival. We love Jeff... is going to be incredible.'

  • Karl D'Angelo (likely Barrels designer) previously wore a Dungeon Crawler Carl costume, indicating his fandom before Multimorphic acquired the license

    medium confidence · Mrs. J: 'Karl D'Angelo like did a Halloween costume as dungeon crawler Carl cuz he's been a big fan of the books for a while.'

    • [name withheld pending review] @ Ender's Game content discussion — Highlights thematic disconnect: bright, colorful family-friendly machine contrasts with dark psychological YA novel content.

  • “There are 22 locations in the continental United States that you can go play a multimmorphic machine on... The closest one is a thousand miles away in either Arizona, like at the bottom of Arizona, or in Reno, Nevada.”

    Mrs. J @ P3 accessibility discussion — Reveals critical barrier to Multimorphic adoption: severe geographic scarcity of playable locations limits collector evaluation and rental options.

  • “Dungeon Crawler Carl is a perfect theme for pinball... you've got boss battles... mystery rewards with like the loot boxes... little side quest modes.”

    Mrs. J @ Dungeon Crawler Carl section — Articulates why DCC is well-suited for pinball mechanically: inherent gameplay elements (loot, bosses, quests) map naturally to pinball design.

  • “I think Multimorphic has hit the jackpot with a theme, though, cuz I think a lot of non-pinball people who are diehard Carl fans are going to be intrigued by this.”

    Mrs. J @ DCC market assessment — Identifies potential market expansion: Dungeon Crawler Carl fandom creates opportunity to attract non-pinball enthusiasts to the game.

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    Harry Pottergame
    Iron Maidengame
    Foo Fightersgame
    Winchester Mystery Housegame
    Brandon Sandersonperson

    high · Dr. C: 'So much of the book is this kind of dark psychological story about a 10-year-old that's like being put through the ringer and they made a very bright and colorful machine.' Mrs. J: 'Ender commits genocide... he unwittingly does it, but he still does it.'

  • ?

    collector_signal: Hosts express limited interest in purchasing these machines unplayed; only hypothetical instant-buy identified is Muppets theme; others require hands-on experience before commitment.

    high · Mrs. J: 'I'm not going to buy it, right? It's not an instant buy for us like Muppets would have been... Very few instant buys in this world.'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Critical accessibility barrier for Multimorphic P3 machines: only 22 playable locations in continental US; nearest to Utah hosts is 1,000 miles away (Arizona or Reno).

    high · Mrs. J: 'There are 22 locations in the continental United States... The closest one is a thousand miles away in either Arizona... or in Reno, Nevada.'

  • $

    market_signal: Dungeon Crawler Carl audiobook format dominance creates unique market opportunity; most fans consume via audio rather than reading, positioning Jeff Hayes as critical voice talent.

    high · Mrs. J: 'I think this is one of the few books in which the audio book is probably the way that most people are reading this... I think almost everyone's listening to it.'

  • ?

    content_signal: Dungeon Crawler Carl gaining mainstream popularity; Dr. C learned of series through Pinball Pursuit responsibility, indicating pinball community awareness drive adoption.

    medium · Mrs. J: 'It's the hot new thing... when the pinball rumors came out... I was like well I do have a responsibility as a pinball person to know about this.'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Community speculation about Barrels of Fun potentially creating Dungeon Crawler Carl machine before Multimorphic acquisition; based on designer Carl D'Angelo's public fandom.

    medium · Mrs. J: 'I know a lot of people when it was announced were really excited about it... because they thought Barrels was going to do it because Carl D'Angelo like did a Halloween costume.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Dungeon Crawler Carl identified as natural fit for pinball due to inherent gameplay elements: loot boxes, boss battles, side quests all translate directly to pinball mechanics.

    high · Mrs. J: 'If you're going to adapt a book into pinball, Enders Game is a weird choice... Dungeon Crawler Carl for a pinball machine makes complete sense. There's boss battles... mystery rewards... little side quest modes.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Multimorphic secured Jeff Hayes, beloved audiobook narrator, for Dungeon Crawler Carl callouts; critical decision for fan authenticity and community connection.

    high · Dr. C corrects Mrs. J: 'It's the actual narrator of the audiobooks that everyone loves... Jeff Hayes is his name... he is incredible.'

    • And now it's three.
    0:26
    Three.
    0:26
    So
    0:26
    three new machines, which I hate. Nobody's mad about that. Exactly.
    0:30
    Nobody's mad about that.
    0:31
    Pinball is always fun to talk about.
    0:32
    Always.
    0:33
    Um, so yeah, we've got three machines that we want to give you. Just our initial reactions. We've not played any of them.
    0:39
    No, we have not.
    0:40
    Obviously, we're in Utah.
    0:42
    Um, but that doesn't stop us from having opinions. No,
    0:45
    we're opinionated people.
    0:46
    Uh, yes, I am. Sorry, Cameron.
    0:49
    So, um, we got three machines to talk about. Bonjovi.
    0:53
    Yes.
    0:54
    Dungeon crawler Carl.
    0:56
    And Enders Game.
    0:57
    Yes. Where do you want to start?
    1:00
    Where do I want to start?
    1:01
    Yeah. Where do you want to start?
    1:02
    I didn't think about that.
    1:04
    Let's start with Bonjovi.
    1:06
    Bonjovi. Okay. The most recent one.
    1:09
    Yes.
    1:09
    Barrels of fun.
    1:10
    Barrels of fun.
    1:12
    Bonjovi.
    1:17
    He is a little sad. I'm sorry.
    1:21
    I I purchased the Barrels Reserve Club program.
    1:27
    Yes, you did. which I think that Jamie Burchil and us are responsible for. We talked about it like 2 months before they announced it. Like the exact idea, do a time frame instead of a number.
    1:39
    That's really funny.
    1:40
    And they basically took us up on that. So I'm going to I'm going to take partial.
    1:44
    You were on the same wavelength. You're thinking like a pinball manufacturer.
    1:49
    So which I love. I love the Barrels Reserve program.
    1:52
    Yeah.
    1:52
    There were some rumors back when they first announced it. Sorry.
    1:57
    That they were going to make a Muppets.
    1:59
    A dream theme for Cameron here. A dream theme.
    2:02
    Love a Muppet spinball machine.
    2:05
    David, Mr. Vaness,
    2:08
    he's calling you out.
    2:09
    Please make a Muppet spinball machine. Make his dream.
    2:12
    You made Labyrinth.
    2:14
    Is that a dream theme of yours?
    2:15
    No, I don't. But it's the Jim Mansson Company.
    2:19
    Oh, there we go. I was like, where where is this connection? I get it now. I just want a Muppet show with the music, the lights.
    2:28
    You were singing the theme song the other day. I was I love the I love the Muppets. Um can you imagine a Statatler and Waldorf topper?
    2:38
    It would be so cool. Like them just roasting you the whole time you're playing.
    2:40
    Oh my goodness.
    2:42
    I would love it. Anyway,
    2:43
    that would be an automatic purchase.
    2:45
    Automatic purchase. Doesn't matter.
    2:47
    Before Batman,
    2:49
    you would actually Well, listen. You would play that or buy that unplayed.
    2:54
    I would buy that unplayed.
    2:55
    Sight unite.
    2:56
    Unplayed.
    2:58
    Sight. Unplayed.
    3:00
    Because you'd have seen it.
    3:02
    Hands unplayed.
    3:04
    There we go.
    3:04
    Touch. There's a sight. It's touch unplayed.
    3:07
    There we go.
    3:08
    Unflipped.
    3:09
    Unflipped.
    3:10
    There we go.
    3:10
    I would. Um, but this is not a dream theme video. We'll make one of those later this year.
    3:14
    Yeah.
    3:15
    This is Bonjovi.
    3:18
    How many Bonjovi songs can you name? Oh,
    3:24
    um, I don't really like Bon Joy. In fact, of all like the glam rock 80s MTV rock bands that are kind of like semi-popular, it might be my least favorite one.
    3:42
    Um, funnily enough, I think one of my funniest misheard lyrics that you laughed at me for was a Bon Jo.
    3:49
    Oh, yes. Tell me.
    3:51
    There's there's the song. Um,
    3:53
    tell us about Gina.
    3:54
    Yes. So, there's the there's the line. If I can splice it in without copyright, I'll put it in right here.
    4:03
    Um, it's the actual line is Gina works the diner all day.
    4:09
    She's a hard worker.
    4:10
    She's a hard worker. And I thought the lyric until very recently was
    4:15
    Gina wants to die of old age. Gosh,
    4:18
    cuz everybody sings about that. Their desire to die.
    4:21
    Well, it still makes sense with the song. Oh my gosh.
    4:26
    GINO WANTS TO die away. No. Gino works the diner all day.
    4:32
    That makes sense.
    4:33
    I see where it might have I
    4:34
    I can hear it. The funny thing is is when you listen to it now, you can hear it.
    4:37
    You can hear that guy.
    4:43
    Here's here's my thing, Cameron. So, I I knew that you were upset about this.
    4:48
    I'm not happy about
    4:49
    And listen, I am just used to now playing music pins from bands that I don't like. And I just say, "WELCOME TO THE CLUB." BECAUSE I I MADE A LIST. I made a list of music pins. Now, some of these are great machines, but tell me if you'd find these in any of my playlists. Iron Maiden,
    5:10
    no.
    5:10
    Metallica?
    5:11
    No.
    5:12
    Led Zeppelin?
    5:13
    No. No. Guns and Roses.
    5:15
    No.
    5:16
    Kiss.
    5:17
    AC/DC.
    5:18
    No.
    5:20
    Rush.
    5:21
    Such a good
    5:22
    Metallica.
    5:23
    You said Metallica.
    5:24
    Did I? I SAID METALLICA TWICE.
    5:26
    You didn't like the Metallica machine though.
    5:28
    That's true. That's true. But I do like Iron Maiden.
    5:32
    Yeah, Iron Maiden's great.
    5:32
    I And Foo Fighters is on there. I actually do like Foo Fighters. That is one one music pin that I like that you like before. See, and I didn't really have much of affinity for proof fighters before we had the machine, and now I respect them more.
    5:46
    So, I feel like you need to give Bon Joy a chance. And I feel like while the music is a big part of it,
    5:55
    you can like a machine regardless of the band.
    5:59
    That's true. No, you're you're absolutely right. I enjoyed the machine Metallica and didn't love the Metallica music.
    6:05
    There you go.
    6:05
    And still enjoyed my time on the machine. This machine looks like strip away the bonjoviness of it.
    6:15
    Exactly. The machine as it says
    6:16
    looks amazing.
    6:17
    It looks really cool. And that's why I get a little sad when I see all of the haters out there. And I'm like, well, I don't like any of the music ones out there, but there are some good machines. Like I said, Iron Maiden, never going to find that on my post. I really like the Iron Maiden machine. the mummy and all the things.
    6:35
    Anyhoo, Eddie.
    6:37
    Eddie. Oh, that's right. That's That's his name. I think it looks really cool. The ramps are really cool. I like that it's shaped like a guitar.
    6:46
    Like the um the outer lane flipper.
    6:48
    The outer Okay, the Outer Lane save flipper
    6:51
    is super cool. I like
    6:54
    I like skill-based saves for your balls. And it's kind of funny that this is on a music pin because the only other one that I can think of that has a really innovative like physical mechanism for saving the ball is Foo Fighters
    7:08
    with the peg.
    7:09
    There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
    7:10
    Right. That you know, you had to hold the flipper up otherwise and grant it's not as much and you had to immediately flip away.
    7:16
    Yeah.
    7:17
    This is obviously a little more skill than that,
    7:20
    but it's still like an innovative thing to do with the Outlane.
    7:24
    Yeah. And I do love that's probably my favorite part.
    7:28
    Mhm.
    7:29
    The heart mech. It's also funny that another mech with a giant thing with a circle in it with a magnet is the rush time machine.
    7:37
    This is different.
    7:39
    It goes up and down like it. No, for sure. For sure. It's just
    7:43
    No, I totally see.
    7:44
    Um, and you know, it makes sense they had to shoot through the heart.
    7:48
    Ah, I get it. See, THAT'S ANOTHER SONG THAT YOU KNOW. That's another song that you know. So, like I get it. Like I And the shots look fun.
    7:57
    Yeah.
    7:58
    Watching Carl play it on the little like
    8:01
    10-minute gameplay with Jeff talking to him.
    8:03
    Yeah.
    8:04
    Really cool.
    8:05
    And I have no doubt that Jeff,
    8:07
    who was fantastic to us at Texas Pinball Festival. We love Jeff.
    8:11
    Um
    8:12
    is going to be incredible.
    8:14
    Yeah. And the thing that is cool about music pins is you can get the beat, you know, you can you can feel it, you can roll it. Whether or not you like the music, I think Bon Jo's style may fit well.
    8:28
    I think it could. And I do like I want to have this in and maybe not permanently, but I want to get this and I want to play it. Yeah. Right. I'm not going to buy it, right? It's not an instant buy for us like Muppets would have been.
    8:40
    There are very few instant buys in this world. I will tell you that.
    8:43
    Very few. But do I want to like rent it, get it in the house, myself? I I absolutely cuz it looks so fun to play,
    8:52
    especially coming off of um
    8:54
    Winchester.
    8:55
    Winchester,
    8:56
    which was so fun to play when we played it.
    8:58
    So fun. So well done. Very pretty. Like it was just very well done. And I feel like this is the same aesthetic type. Like the colors are very vibrant.
    9:08
    Yes. I know a lot of people don't like the cabinet and the back glass art. I think the the the actual playfield looks great.
    9:14
    I understand that. It's not my favorite either. It I mean first thoughts it was kind of like oh scrapbook.
    9:23
    Thanks grandma.
    9:26
    Here's the thing like it's hard with band
    9:30
    pins to have like really
    9:33
    cool backlash cuz they're all kind of playing on the same. The ones that are really different are like Foo Fighters
    9:38
    where they've got a whole story playing along with it. It's kind of comic booky.
    9:43
    Yeah. or like the Metallica and really with like the zombification and the snake.
    9:48
    That's the way and everything.
    9:50
    I can never remember their name. The mummy one. Thank you. You almost have to kind of go with the theme like a story line.
    9:57
    Story line and this is just Bonjob.
    9:59
    And this is just Bon Joby.
    10:01
    And so and like they're doing like the whole you we're trying to create the concert experience. That's what we have crowd surfing and they're going to have like a beach ball mode and stuff like and like a wave mode like I have no doubt this is going to be a banger of a game. Yeah.
    10:16
    That this is going to really flip well. I think Carl Langelo has proven himself a good designer with Winchester.
    10:23
    Mhm.
    10:23
    Jeff has proven proven to be a wizard with sound.
    10:26
    Yeah.
    10:26
    This game is going to be awesome.
    10:28
    Mhm.
    10:30
    It's just all of those things are in spite of
    10:33
    I know
    10:33
    a theme that I'm just not excited about.
    10:35
    And that makes me sad and I get it. But again, you know, coming from my musical taste and background,
    10:42
    yeah,
    10:43
    I just say, "Get over it, people. Give it a shot."
    10:46
    Because you're right. There's a lot of pins out there that musically you have no interest in.
    10:50
    Yeah. But I still think they're really fun and really cool.
    10:52
    They're really fun and really cool.
    10:53
    And I do want to say that I mean, this is a very concert themed machine
    10:58
    and I think the concert clips that they have on there
    11:01
    Mhm.
    11:02
    the film quality looks really rich. It looks really good. I noticed that. And I normally don't love, you know, the scenes and stuff playing in the background, but I noticed that and I was like, "Oh, this looks really good."
    11:14
    Yeah. I have no doubt that this is going to be a great flipping machine. That Jeff's going to do an amazing job. I hope they sell out of them.
    11:24
    Yeah, I do.
    11:25
    They're making 700.
    11:26
    Oh, 700K. Okay. How many Winchesterers did they make?
    11:29
    525.
    11:31
    I thought it was more.
    11:33
    So, they're making more of these.
    11:34
    They're making a little bit more.
    11:35
    A little bit more. But they also have the barrels reserve program. So if they sell out this week,
    11:41
    they'll make more.
    11:42
    Interesting.
    11:43
    Depending on who wants them.
    11:44
    With that reserve program, when do you have to have your bid in? Essentially, when do you have to say one week to do it?
    11:50
    You have one week. So they have until it sells out and then you have one week after.
    11:54
    Well, no. If it sells out in a week.
    11:56
    Oh, if it sells out.
    11:57
    So it has to sell out in a week and then you have a week. So you would essentially have two weeks to decide.
    12:01
    Gotcha. Very interesting.
    12:03
    Right. I really hope that this does well. I really like barrels. I think they just make really good quality machines from, like you said, from the sound to the way that it looks to just I remember was it Winchester or was it Dune that had like the sparkly like
    12:19
    it was Winchester?
    12:20
    Oh my gosh,
    12:21
    it just looks like a very pretty machine.
    12:24
    Yeah, I want to have one in the house
    12:25
    and just very high quality. I just really hope Barrels blows it out of the park and I'm sure that they did.
    12:30
    I hope that they sell out of these. If they do, I will not be using Art Barrels Reserve.
    12:36
    Dang it. I know.
    12:37
    To get one. I hope that they announce another game before my subscription runs out. Otherwise, I spent $75 on very expensive rubber ducks.
    12:48
    Collector's items. You have a lot of collector's items here, Cameron.
    12:51
    None of them are rubber ducks.
    12:54
    Yeah, your aesthetic's a little different, but it's still fun.
    12:57
    It's still fun. It's still fun. And it's a cool idea, this whole reserve program.
    13:01
    It is. I We love it.
    13:03
    Yeah.
    13:03
    So, you know, I just hope that I get to use it.
    13:06
    Yeah.
    13:06
    I do too. I hope so.
    13:08
    Make up my skate.
    13:10
    It's time to light the lights.
    13:12
    Oh my gosh. Good. Good call out.
    13:15
    Okay.
    13:16
    Overall, I think Bonjob is going to be good.
    13:19
    I think it'll be good. I think it's going to play well and I'll probably enjoy the music more, but I'll probably also get sick of the music.
    13:26
    I just hope we can play one. I mean, there'll always be TPF next.
    13:31
    There's always going to be TPF. We might go to expo. It's not very likely.
    13:35
    Um, but we're definitely going to take TPF again.
    13:38
    So, we'll we'll definitely play it there. And we're part of the reserve program and we'll get a private room to play the reserve people.
    13:44
    Well, that was fun that didn't.
    13:46
    Um, okay.
    13:47
    You pick the next one. Let's talk about
    13:52
    and as we go through these at the end we have to rank which one we would choose if we were to add one of these three to our home arcade right now. Which one would you choose?
    14:01
    Well, Ender Game and Barrels sorry and Dungeon Carroller Carl are both from Multimorphic.
    14:07
    Correct.
    14:08
    Um let's go. Should we say let's say Enders Game first?
    14:13
    Enders Game first. Deal.
    14:14
    Um what is your connection to Enders Game? Have you read it?
    14:17
    I Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I read it many moons ago.
    14:21
    Mhm.
    14:22
    Um I really really really liked the book.
    14:25
    It's so good.
    14:26
    And then when the movie came out, I was really excited cuz I really liked the book.
    14:30
    Movie not as
    14:31
    it was not good.
    14:32
    Not as not as good. Not as great.
    14:34
    As tried hair tried wasn't great.
    14:38
    I also really enjoyed I actually have
    14:42
    here a there she is.
    14:43
    My um who wouldn't mind reading
    14:45
    hard on the cover edition of the book. I love industry.
    14:49
    It's really good.
    14:49
    I read it for the first time in college.
    14:51
    Yeah.
    14:52
    Um
    14:52
    my Money Moons Go was probably like 10 years ago, which means I was mid20s.
    14:56
    Okay. It's It's such a good
    14:59
    Yeah.
    14:59
    It's probably in my top 10 of ALL TIME.
    15:02
    WOW.
    15:03
    I LOVE Enders Game.
    15:05
    Um did you read any of the other Enders books? Either the the Ender series or the Bean series?
    15:11
    No. No, I just read the one the OG and that's it.
    15:14
    The OG and that's it.
    15:15
    What's the Bean series? Uh, Ender Shadow.
    15:18
    Oh,
    15:18
    it's all about Bean.
    15:20
    No, I never read them.
    15:21
    Story. Um, I read all of the Bean books. I didn't read the other end.
    15:25
    Gotcha. Gotcha.
    15:26
    So, um, but Enders Game,
    15:30
    what a weird theme for pinball.
    15:34
    Look, the like there's some classic like the battle school with the
    15:39
    the you know, the gravity room and all the battles and stuff like that. So cool. Such cool. imaginative stuff. There's the little like tablet game that Ender plays that like
    15:53
    that teaches him things that he scratches the the giant's eyes out and everything. And there's that whole like psychological but so much of the book is this kind of dark psychological story
    16:04
    Mhm. about a 10-year-old that's like being put through the ringer and they made a very bright and colorful machine.
    16:16
    Well, the thing that kind of took me back and now I realize that I was in in the wrong is they're are little children.
    16:23
    Yeah. They're like in the book they're like 9 10 years.
    16:26
    So I I looked this up because I was like were they really that young? And so apparently you can go into the school at six and then towards the end when you would leave the school you're like 12.
    16:35
    Yeah.
    16:36
    So for some reason in my mind
    16:39
    I thought that they were like
    16:41
    younger teenagers. I thought that they were It's probably because of the movie because that's the way I've always imagined it. And so then when I hopped into this I kind of
    16:50
    imagined it would be that same type of thing. And then these were like children and I was like whoa. and they got like children voices to do the
    16:57
    and so it was very unexpected and I'm still trying to reconcile in my head like they're actually accurate to the book.
    17:04
    They are being
    17:05
    but not accurate to my brain.
    17:07
    So still throwing me off a little.
    17:10
    Yeah.
    17:10
    But yeah, lots lots of kids.
    17:14
    Lots of kids,
    17:15
    which is not the direction I thought they would go.
    17:18
    Yeah. Um but it is accurate to the book and trying to be very accurate to the book. Yeah,
    17:24
    the it looks really cool.
    17:29
    It looks really cool. And this this wheel in the middle,
    17:32
    this disc thing, right, is crazy. Moves around. It has a kind cannon that shoots things out. Targets on one side of it.
    17:40
    More of what it does.
    17:42
    Yeah. Yeah. They've got a couple of little quick gameplay stuff. It's hard to tell. I just want to get my hands on it.
    17:47
    Yeah. And I I do like that the wheel thing lights up that has like little ring lights that are on the top. I think that that's really cool. I mean, overall it looks really cool.
    17:55
    I love the the like Valentine and Peter all locks on either side.
    18:00
    Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there's got like the little scores down at the bottom.
    18:03
    Yeah. And it's it's basically like you have to balance between empathy and aggression.
    18:07
    Mhm.
    18:08
    And if you h if you're balanced, you'll do better. If you're But if you're more empathy, you'll you'll like recruit your teammates better.
    18:15
    But if you're on aggression, you'll win batter battles more easily.
    18:18
    Yeah. But you have to be kind of balanced cuz that is really part of the story is that psychological
    18:23
    portion and they they're representing it with mechs in the game
    18:26
    which is cool.
    18:29
    It's still a weird property.
    18:31
    It is
    18:31
    to make a pinball machine.
    18:32
    It's interesting. It's it's definitely out of the blue.
    18:35
    Yes.
    18:36
    One that I would not have guessed.
    18:38
    This is like Jerry's gene thing
    18:40
    and I understand we love Jerry. We talked to we had a good interview with Jerry. Link up here if you want to go see it. Um, it's just a weird thing to do for a pinball machine.
    18:48
    Yeah. If I were to just walk into an arcade, I I don't know how it would feel. I'd be like, "Oh, just kidding. A book. Why is there a book pinball machine?"
    18:57
    Well, I mean, you could say the same thing about Harry Potter, you know?
    19:00
    But Harry Potter with the movies, though.
    19:03
    Oh, that's true. This is
    19:04
    no movie at all.
    19:06
    That's true. I didn't think about that. So, like that's the difference here on that
    19:11
    cuz like I would love a only book art version of Harry Potter,
    19:17
    but what would you do for the clips?
    19:19
    I would really love that actually.
    19:21
    Like and the the mini me the the collector's edition has that artwork, but it's still like the movie clips and everything.
    19:26
    Oh, now I really want it.
    19:28
    But it's it's it's fascinating,
    19:31
    but it's hard when you've got to have
    19:33
    all the licenses.
    19:34
    But I mean, they're going to have the clips of the books,
    19:36
    but they've done all the animations and everything. Um, it looks really cool.
    19:40
    It looks really cool.
    19:41
    And it's like it's interesting that that this is the familyfriendly one was this somewhat dark young adult book.
    19:48
    Yeah.
    19:50
    And maybe I'm just remembering the dark stuff a little bit more, but like
    19:53
    Yeah.
    19:54
    Spoiler alert, Commute Me like he commits genocide in the book.
    19:59
    Yeah.
    20:02
    He unwilling unknowingly does it, but he still does it.
    20:05
    Yeah. Um, so yeah,
    20:07
    and so it's just Yeah, it's it's an out of left field
    20:11
    out of left field
    20:12
    theme.
    20:12
    theme was was not on my like list of themes I thought would come
    20:16
    and I'm not mad about it.
    20:17
    No, no,
    20:18
    just just surprise.
    20:19
    It's just surprising.
    20:20
    Exactly.
    20:21
    It looks fun to play.
    20:22
    Yeah.
    20:24
    I want And this goes for both the games. We'll talk about this.
    20:29
    I need more time on a P3.
    20:32
    Yes. Yes. Yes. We were talking about this. The way that we of course learn what brands we like, what machines we like if we want to have them in the home is of course playing them. We're not we're not buying machines side unseen unless it's a muppet.
    20:46
    Uh we like to of course rent machines, have them in our home, play them, feel them out.
    20:52
    It's hard with multimorphic and that makes me sad because the whole concept of a multimmorphic is very cool.
    20:56
    Yeah, it's very cool. But it the one time we got to play it was just a few games at TPF.
    21:02
    Yes. And they play they play very different,
    21:06
    but it's still pinball. Like I still
    21:08
    after a while I was like, "Oh, this is fun." And I could see myself really enjoying this. But the initial shock of how different it played
    21:15
    did throw me off.
    21:17
    Yep. Cuz I played 2.3 games cuz I played two games and one ball.
    21:22
    Yep. One ball cuz then we had to we had some little meltdown but
    21:26
    the baby had to go.
    21:27
    Yep. And so like it's just it's it's and I did a little look, right? Because we're we're comparing barrels of fun. We're comparing multimmorphic. There are 22 locations in the continental United States
    21:42
    that you can go play a multimmorphic machine on. 22 locations
    21:47
    and I'm assuming zero in Utah.
    21:50
    The closest one is a thousand miles away in either Arizona, like at the bottom of Arizona, or in Reno, Nevada.
    21:56
    And I just want to play it. I just wanna I we're going to an arcade on Friday. That's what we we like to do.
    22:01
    That's our date night for the week.
    22:02
    Yeah. And I just I want to play it.
    22:06
    And we just Yeah. And so it's it's hard because these do play differently. I want I want to see if Enders Game is something I want to have.
    22:14
    I know. And it's hard cuz I don't think these are set up for arcade play. I think it what multimmorphics should really do is create like a more I don't know if the word because I've heard that they just don't hold up very well to arcade style.
    22:28
    Yeah. Yeah.
    22:29
    Is make like a reinforced tank of a machine
    22:32
    that they sell with no module swap outs just like the only that module and sell it as an arcade version.
    22:39
    But then is it going to play the same as a module type version? I mean, at least you could get a feel for the play field, for the ring in the middle, for all sorts of things.
    22:49
    It's still not going to be exactly the same.
    22:52
    I just I just want to get my hands on one.
    22:54
    Yeah. Um
    22:56
    I want to rent one, Kelly.
    22:59
    He's not going to get one.
    23:01
    Um eventually eventually once we get enough funds, which may be a while,
    23:06
    I we we're going to get a P3.
    23:08
    Yeah.
    23:08
    Like I want one. There's enough modules I want to play.
    23:11
    Yeah. It's just that's a big investment.
    23:14
    We'll probably have to go to a couple of different more shows before I really feel comfortable pulling the trigger off.
    23:19
    Exactly.
    23:19
    And we haven't pulled the trigger on anything recently.
    23:22
    And so it's just it's just hard.
    23:25
    But Enders Game is a cool theme. It's just out of left field.
    23:27
    It's just out of left field. I would want to play it.
    23:30
    Yep.
    23:31
    It's just an interesting theme. I I always think about what people would be attracted to in our arcade. I don't know if Ender Game would attract people that way.
    23:39
    I don't know it would either. My best friend would because that's his favorite book.
    23:43
    Yeah,
    23:44
    but not that many people.
    23:46
    But speaking of attracting people, segue
    23:49
    dungeon crawler Carl.
    23:52
    Um,
    23:54
    tell me about your knowledge, your familiarity with DCC.
    23:59
    With DCC, Dungeon Crawler Carl. Um, it is the hot new thing.
    24:03
    It is the hot new thing. It is the hot new thing. I brothers have been talking about it to me for about two to three years.
    24:11
    That long? I didn't realize that.
    24:13
    Um, and they said, "It's a little bit crass, but we think you'd really like it, but it's a little bit crass." Um, and it's started to get like I kept hearing about it and then when the pinball rumors came out because Matt Denimman announced that there's a pinball machine coming for the for Dungeon Crawler Carl, I was like, "Well, I do have a responsibility as a pinball person to know about this." So, I started the books. I just finished book three.
    24:39
    He's obsessed. And he just started really good.
    24:41
    How long ago did you start book one?
    24:43
    Three weeks ago. I've been reading one book a week.
    24:46
    One a week. So, that's where we're at.
    24:48
    Um, it's a really fun book series.
    24:53
    Yeah, you're loving it.
    24:54
    I am really loving it.
    24:55
    I during my maternity leave at random.
    24:59
    Yep.
    25:00
    Um, well, here's
    25:01
    just like seven months ago.
    25:02
    Yeah. Fun fact,
    25:03
    before the whole announcement about a pinball machine.
    25:07
    Oh, yeah. This was back in like
    25:09
    November of last year.
    25:10
    Yeah. November, December. I cannot read emotional things right now because if I do, ever since having given birth, I will cry.
    25:17
    You're a wreck.
    25:18
    I'm a wreck. I cannot handle emotional things. And so instead of reading my sad World War II fanfiction, that sounds terrible. World War II.
    25:27
    She loves World War II book.
    25:28
    Historical fiction. That's what we're going to say.
    25:29
    She loves historical fiction, especially World War II stuff. There's so much of it out there.
    25:33
    Yes. Um, so I was like, well, this does not seem sad at all. And it wasn't. At least not the parts that I got to. I just also have trouble with long battle scenes
    25:45
    in books.
    25:46
    In books.
    25:46
    Well, and in movies, too.
    25:47
    Yeah. And these have really long battle scenes. And I get really bored. And so I always
    25:53
    You were physically reading them. You weren't listening.
    25:55
    I know. I was physically reading them. I was reading them on my Kindle while I was feeding our child. But I just got bored. And I should have just skipped through the battle scenes, but then there were too many battle scenes. And then it's like if somebody dies in a battle, well then what's going to happen? How am I going to know? Yeah.
    26:10
    And then I just I fell off the bandwagon and now I'm kind of regretting it.
    26:14
    What? Halfway through the book?
    26:15
    Halfway through the first book.
    26:16
    She also DNFS a lot of books. DNF for those who aren't readers. Do not finish.
    26:22
    Yeah. If I get bored, I'm like not worth my time. YOLO. Moving on to the next.
    26:27
    Um
    26:29
    I think the biggest thing is you were reading them.
    26:32
    I started with the audio books cuz I heard that was the only one you got.
    26:36
    Okay.
    26:37
    And they are great. Yeah,
    26:39
    the guy that does the audiobook stuff is incredible.
    26:43
    Okay, love that.
    26:44
    So, and yes, there's a lot of fighting and stuff.
    26:47
    Yeah. I mean,
    26:49
    that's kind of what it is.
    26:50
    That's kind of what it is. That's what it's about is
    26:53
    being put into an arena to fight.
    26:54
    Yeah.
    26:55
    Right.
    26:56
    Yeah.
    26:56
    So, um but yeah, it's blowing up like if I feel like it started to really gain momentum in the last like six months.
    27:05
    Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's reading it.
    27:07
    Everybody's reading it now. Mhm.
    27:08
    They had a big display at Brandon Sanderson's convention this last year for it.
    27:13
    How many books are there?
    27:14
    Eight.
    27:16
    Yeah. And he's written them quick. The first one came out in 2021.
    27:19
    Oh, that is fast.
    27:20
    Yeah. He's been he's been pumping these out pretty quickly.
    27:23
    Um I'm a big fantasy fan if you couldn't tell.
    27:27
    If you didn't already know.
    27:30
    Um so this is right up my alley. A little bit cruder than I would like it to be at times. Um, little a little lot of bit of swearing sometimes.
    27:39
    Yeah.
    27:41
    But here's the thing. If you're going to adapt a book into pinball, Enders Game is a weird choice. Sure, there's like the battles, but doesn't mean Dungeon Crawler Carl for a pinball machine makes complete sense. There's boss battles. A lot of things are like traditional to what I think makes a good pinball machine
    28:01
    are all in this. Yeah,
    28:02
    you've got mystery rewards with like the loot boxes and the items you can get.
    28:06
    You've got again boss battles. You've got little side quest modes that you can do.
    28:14
    Dungeon Crawler Carl is a perfect theme for pinball.
    28:17
    Yeah,
    28:17
    it really is. And I know a lot of people when it was announced were really excited about it.
    28:22
    Yeah.
    28:23
    Because they thought Barrels was going to do it because Carl D'Angelo like did a Halloween costume as dungeon crawler Carl cuz he's been a big fan of the books for a while. Obviously, it's not them that's making it.
    28:33
    Yeah,
    28:33
    it's multimorphic.
    28:35
    I just am impressed with how quickly they hopped on the train.
    28:38
    Oh, yeah. They're getting on this hard. Yeah,
    28:42
    the perfect.
    28:43
    I'm sure it helps that the author is a huge pinball fan or at least he seems to be like that was not hard, I'm sure, to get the licensing. He was probably all over it. But yeah, very timely effect.
    28:54
    Very. And while I am sad that like a barrels cuz I think a barrels version of ginger color would be amazing, I do think that it does lend itself well to P3 because you can do every book different.
    29:07
    Oh, what? What do you mean?
    29:09
    With a screen like you can have
    29:10
    with a screen.
    29:12
    I was like, Cameron, you were not buying a new P3 system insert for every No, no, no. like with the with cuz they said in one of the interviews that I read or listened to about this game
    29:22
    is that at the start of the game you can pick which book to start in.
    29:26
    Oh, interesting.
    29:27
    Now, they only have the first book done right now, but they plan for but they plan to have all of them.
    29:31
    Fascinating.
    29:32
    Fascinating. Yeah.
    29:34
    Um it's the same layout, same mechs. Looks very different. The sculpts look amazing. Like donut looks incredible.
    29:42
    Yeah.
    29:43
    I don't know who the head person is. She breaks me out.
    29:47
    She's weird. She's not in up to book three, so I don't know who that character is yet.
    29:52
    A new friend.
    29:52
    Apparently, it's someone very important. Um, and obviously you have Carl, who looks fantastic as the mold. So,
    30:00
    again, weird with the whole disc thing. Like, that's cool.
    30:04
    Again, I want I want to know more.
    30:06
    I want to know more. I want to know how I want to put my hands on it.
    30:08
    Yep. Exactly. Um, I think Multimorphic has hit the jackpot with a theme, though, cuz I think a lot of non-pinball people who are diehard Carl fans
    30:20
    are going to be intrigued by this.
    30:21
    Yeah,
    30:22
    100%.
    30:23
    Yeah.
    30:23
    Y,
    30:23
    it's it's really good for them.
    30:26
    Yeah. And it's it's cool cuz I think back to Harry Potter and how close to my heart that was and how many different little Easter eggy things were in there. Oh, that. Oh, that. Oh, that. You know, iconic scenes, fun moments. And I can tell by just looking at this and listening to some of the call outs and stuff that it's got that same type of vibe.
    30:45
    Now, tell me what you told me before we started about the call outs.
    30:49
    You've corrected me, but not knowing or not having listened to the audiobooks, I was like, Cameron, the call outs sound really cheap. I was like, I think they used one, maybe two people to do everyone and that's it. Come to find out,
    31:06
    you didn't know that IT'S THE ACTUAL NARRATOR OF THE AUDIO books that everyone loves
    31:11
    and apparently they love him.
    31:13
    Well, because I listened to them. You haven't.
    31:16
    Yeah,
    31:16
    he is incredible. Jeff Hayes is his name.
    31:19
    It makes more sense now that one man is literally doing all of the calls. I was correct. I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they had two people doing it, but
    31:29
    and again, it's the
    31:31
    if you know, you know,
    31:31
    you feel connected to it and I totally get that. If you're an outsider like me, well then maybe you and I might not be able to
    31:38
    like why is there men doing that woman's voice?
    31:40
    Exactly. I was like this just sounds really bad. So it makes a lot more sense now. I get it.
    31:46
    It's total nod to the fans.
    31:48
    Yeah, exactly.
    31:49
    It's the right move
    31:50
    and it makes sense.
    31:50
    It's the right move.
    31:51
    It makes I get it
    31:52
    cuz people I think this is one of the few books in which the audio book is probably the way that most people are reading this.
    32:03
    I think so too,
    32:04
    right? Yeah,
    32:04
    I don't see many people reading it. I think almost everyone's listening to it.
    32:08
    Yeah, because they're what was it? Um, Project Hail Mary. Everybody said that it's such a different experience if you listen to it. And I feel like that might be the same way that Dental Car was
    32:19
    I loved Project Hary except I listened to it.
    32:21
    Yeah.
    32:21
    Yeah.
    32:22
    I did not listen to it. I still really liked it. I got bored in the science parts. Oh, yeah. I finished it and I felt a strong connection to Rocky.
    32:30
    Rocky was amazing.
    32:31
    Yeah. I think it might have been different if I had listened to it. Rocky's even better when you listen to it.
    32:34
    Yeah.
    32:35
    Anyway, so I think they hit I think they hit the jackpot with theme.
    32:39
    Yeah.
    32:40
    A lot of people who are pinball people and also Carl fans are sad.
    32:45
    Why?
    32:46
    Because it's multimmorphic. They wanted a more traditional experience. Again,
    32:51
    they play very different.
    32:52
    Yeah.
    32:53
    And because there's so few on location. And I think that might be another reason why people are sad because there are I'm sure a lot of people that want to play this but don't necessarily want to invest having it in their home.
    33:05
    Well, like my brother my brother is a huge dungeon crawler Carl Dungeon crawler Carl fan even before he got into pinball. He's been reading this book for like 3 years.
    33:13
    Yeah.
    33:13
    Which is longer than he's been playing pinball.
    33:15
    Yeah. and he is so sad that like unless he goes to travel somewhere, he's not going to get a chance to play it and he doesn't have the money to buy any pinball machine, let alone a P3.
    33:26
    Whereas like
    33:28
    if this game were a a traditional company, I bet the lab or Ketos would get one.
    33:33
    Well, I know Ketos was going to get one because I talked to the guy who Ketos is our local barcade. um who owns the machines there was trying to like pump me as if I knew information on what was coming from what was trying to figure out if it was
    33:48
    Duna Carla Carl
    33:49
    well if it was multi warfer barrels I was making
    33:51
    cuz he was going to like I'm I'll give them my money now if it's Carl
    33:55
    if it's uh
    33:57
    barrels
    33:58
    we just need to be able to play these on site my friends
    34:01
    and that's the biggest problem I think what Multimorphic needs to do is find a way to push more of these on site
    34:08
    cuz they've got the license. They've done all the hard work. They just need to come up with a cabinet that is a little more durable.
    34:14
    Yeah. Yeah. Or or have better support for for locations or
    34:19
    put them on locations themselves.
    34:22
    Like they need to get these into more people's hands to try them out.
    34:25
    Yeah.
    34:26
    Like going to shows is great, but only pinball people go to pinball shows who are die
    34:31
    hards.
    34:32
    It's, you know, the people of the local scene here,
    34:36
    not all of them go to shows. Yeah. So that's the biggest problem I think with this. Again, there are only 22 locations to play a multimorphic machine in the US. Yeah.
    34:46
    On site.
    34:47
    Barrels, which has far fewer, I think, machines out there. Like we know that they only have 525 um Winchesterers,
    34:56
    there's more Winchesterers on location to play in the US than there are multimarket machines.
    35:01
    We just need access. That's all we want.
    35:03
    All I want. I want to play these. Um, granted they're gonna have to bleep these on location probably
    35:09
    because there is a love square.
    35:12
    Now, here's my question. I know that there's family mode. Is the family mode the bleeped or is the family mode just
    35:20
    different?
    35:21
    Yeah,
    35:21
    I think the family mode is bleeped
    35:23
    because in my mind, everybody knows what word is going. The bleep does nothing for anyone. And I just always have
    35:31
    the familyfriendly home arcade. That's what we want, you know.
    35:35
    And so I'm like, does this really fit the theme?
    35:38
    But here's the thing about this, about a P3 specifically.
    35:41
    Yes.
    35:42
    If we want to have a familyfriendly arcade,
    35:44
    and we had a P3, I could pop in this module, play with people who would like know, like my brother and stuff, and then take it out and put a family-friendly module in. You're 100% correct.
    35:53
    That is one of the great parts about the P3.
    35:55
    That is that is the only way we would probably have this in our home.
    35:59
    Yeah. And
    36:00
    even if it was a different company, I wouldn't have this because it's not a family friendly
    36:03
    thing. It's just a pinball after dark theme.
    36:05
    Yep.
    36:06
    Yep.
    36:06
    That you just pop in and you take up. Whereas you can't really do that with a traditional machine.
    36:10
    No. No, you can't.
    36:10
    So, for that reason, I am kind of glad that it's multimmorphic as me.
    36:13
    Exactly. It's the perfect theme for a multimmorphic. At least for our basement.
    36:16
    At least for us who And like I said, I think when we finally build this thing out, we'll probably have a P3.
    36:24
    Yeah. And that's our plan. There's just a lot of good themes that you identify with. Added this too. I mean, you've got Weird Al, you've got Portal, and now you've got Dungeon Crawler Carl. And I mean, who knows? I love Final Resistance when I played it, too.
    36:37
    Well, that and you're a big Enders Game. I do love End. So, it's like they keep on hitting it
    36:42
    when it comes to the themes.
    36:44
    Yeah.
    36:44
    Um,
    36:46
    it's just quite an investment.
    36:48
    Exactly. And again, I got to play it because I I was starting to get it
    36:53
    right when we were at TPF.
    36:55
    The first two or three games, I was like, "Oh, I don't know if I like this."
    36:58
    Yeah.
    36:58
    Like to be perfectly honest, sorry to Multimorphic,
    37:01
    but
    37:02
    I like the 10th game and I played it
    37:05
    and and the great thing is that Kevin from Buffalo Pinball, who now works for Multimorphic, like came over to me cuz he recognized me
    37:12
    and was like, "Let me show let me show you let me show you how to do this." Yeah. Yeah.
    37:16
    And so he actually played with me for probably 5 10 minutes. You weren't there at the time
    37:21
    and like explained stuff to me where I was like, "Oh, I just needed someone to show me."
    37:26
    And then I was like, "Okay."
    37:28
    There was just a small learning curve, I'm sure.
    37:30
    Yeah. And I was starting to get it. Like I got through some good modes on Final Resistance.
    37:34
    Mhm.
    37:35
    Um and was loving it. Like
    37:37
    it made me thirsty for more.
    37:39
    Yeah.
    37:39
    I want to but I'm not ready to
    37:42
    You're not ready to pull the trigger on it yet. And I get that. But I I a little bit more time.
    37:47
    Exactly. A little bit more time.
    37:49
    I think we will have one potential.
    37:51
    Yeah.
    37:52
    We're not haters.
    37:53
    No,
    37:53
    we're just
    37:55
    unsurers at the moment.
    37:56
    Unexperienced.
    37:57
    Unexperience. That's a better word. Better word.
    37:59
    Yep.
    38:00
    Um Okay. You said we had to do the ranking.
    38:02
    Yes.
    38:04
    Give me your rank. Bottom to top thing.
    38:07
    Bottom to top.
    38:08
    I guess machine. Not just thing, but like the whole machine.
    38:11
    The whole machine. Which one I would want to
    38:13
    the least of the three that we've talked about?
    38:15
    Yeah. I mean, for me, Dungeon Crawler Carl's number three for me. Fair. Sorry.
    38:20
    What's your number three?
    38:22
    Um, probably Enders Game.
    38:28
    Okay.
    38:29
    I do love Enders Game. It's just a weird It's a left favorite.
    38:32
    It's It's one that we I got to play it before I before I really
    38:35
    before I understand. Number two for you.
    38:38
    For me?
    38:38
    I know. Yeah. probably Bonjoby.
    38:42
    Yep.
    38:43
    And it's because I don't love the theme. I'm excited to play the gameplay. I'm sure it's going to rock. No pun intended.
    38:49
    Um that same layout and all the mechs with a different theme I think I would be way more excited for.
    38:56
    As is, I'm like, ah, it looks fun. Not a Bon Joy fan.
    39:01
    Deal. Number two, Enders Game.
    39:05
    Okay.
    39:05
    Yeah. Yeah.
    39:07
    Okay. So, number one for you.
    39:08
    Bonjobi.
    39:09
    Bonjob. Number one for me Carl
    39:11
    Bonjovi. It's got really cool ramps. I think the sound is going to be incredible. I really think if people can just get over their I don't want to say dislike disinterest
    39:24
    their disinterest in Bonjovi.
    39:27
    I think it's going to be a really good game.
    39:29
    I think it is too. I It's probably going to be the best shooter of these three that we're talking about. And and who knows, maybe maybe Multorphic will will prove us wrong. But I do think that layout of a bonanji looks incredible.
    39:43
    It looks really cool,
    39:45
    but it's just the theme takes it down a notch for me. And for me, dungeon crawler Carl because I am loving the
    39:50
    people are loving dungeon and I totally get that.
    39:52
    I'm loving Carl right now. And so that's probably why that's at the top.
    39:56
    Makes sense.
    39:57
    Theme is a big thing. Like it's a whole category in our in our in our scoring system.
    40:02
    Yeah.
    40:02
    So makes an impact.
    40:04
    That's where we're at.
    40:05
    That's where we're at in the three.
    40:07
    Yeah. Three pinball machines announced
    40:09
    in two days.
    40:10
    I love that.
    40:11
    I know, right? Um I don't know there's any other big announcements coming out soon, but you can always come here and see what we think every time there's one.
    40:19
    Exactly. We'll let you know.
    40:21
    Um look out for more tutorials, more reviews, and uh let us know what you think, where you would rank these. And until next time,
    40:28
    keep flipping.
    40:34
    I think they're going to make it good. I think they're going to do Wall-E.