Episode 190 - 1962 Bally Silver Sails

For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·14m 25s·analyzed·Sep 17, 2015

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TL;DR

Deep dive into 1962 Bally Silver Sails bingo machine design and mechanics.

Summary

Nicholas Baldridge discusses the 1962 Bally Silver Sails, a bingo pinball machine that is mechanically identical to Golden Gate but features boating-themed artwork instead. He explains the game's complex Magic Screen features, highlights the interchangeability of parts between the two sister games, and expresses hope that Silver Sails will be displayed at the upcoming York Show (White Rose Game Room Show) in October.

Key Claims

Silver Sails and Golden Gate are sister games that play identically aside from artwork differences
high confidence · Nicholas Baldridge, host; stated as established fact corroborated by Steve Smith from prior Golden Gate episode
Backglasses, cabinets, and playfields are completely interchangeable between Silver Sails and Golden Gate
high confidence · Nicholas Baldridge citing Steve Smith; examples given of mixed configurations found in the field
Only one internal difference between games is a differently-shaped cam on the control unit that affects available features
medium confidence · Nicholas Baldridge; admits uncertainty about specifics and inability to locate technical documentation
The York Show (White Rose Game Room Show) is October 9-10 at York Fairgrounds in York, Pennsylvania
high confidence · Nicholas Baldridge, event organizer
This year's York Show will feature the first-ever 'wood rail row' dedicated to bingo machines
high confidence · Nicholas Baldridge, organizing the exhibit
Bally produced many More Brewing Company bingo games beyond what will be shown at York Show
high confidence · Nicholas Baldridge; historical observation about manufacturing output
Silver Sails backglass depicts a boat race at sunset with the title deriving from how white sails become iridescent as the sun sets
medium confidence · Nicholas Baldridge's interpretation of artwork design intent
Bally games were 'cranked out' and parts mixed quickly to get machines out the door
high confidence · Nicholas Baldridge citing Steve Smith's account of 1960s manufacturing practices

Notable Quotes

“if you have a bingo and are thinking about bringing it, but have some concerns, please message me... I would love to see them all there.”
Nicholas Baldridge @ ~2:00 — Host actively recruiting bingo machines for inaugural wood rail row at York Show
“Silver Sails is the sister game to Golden Gate. And Silver Sails, aside from the artwork, plays identically.”
Nicholas Baldridge @ ~3:30 — Core claim about mechanical identity of two games
“the back glasses, cabinets, and play fields are completely interchangeable between these games... they were cranking them out. they were trying to get these games out the door quickly”
Nicholas Baldridge (citing Steve Smith) @ ~6:30 — Historical insight into 1960s manufacturing methods affecting game configuration
“The games are engineered so well that it's really hard from a player's perspective for you to get confused or lose your place in the game... it leaves me speechless.”
Nicholas Baldridge @ ~16:00 — Expression of admiration for mechanical engineering complexity of bingo machines
“It will be so beautiful to see Silver Sails beside a Golden Gate. And the particular Silver Sails in question is itself a thing of absolute beauty.”
Nicholas Baldridge @ ~17:30 — Enthusiasm for displaying the machine at York Show; indicates specific machine already identified

Entities

Nicholas BaldridgepersonSteve SmithpersonJeffrey LawtonpersonSilver Sailsgame Golden Gategame BountygameYork ShoweventBallycompany

Signals

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event_signal: York Show (White Rose Game Room Show) October 9-10 at York Fairgrounds, York PA; first-ever dedicated wood rail/bingo row being organized by Nicholas Baldridge with call for exhibitors
high · Nicholas Baldridge announcement and recruiting effort; established as his favorite and primary attended show
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historical_signal: 1960s Bally manufacturing practices involved rapid production with interchangeable parts between sister games; machines were configured with mixed components (Golden Gate backglass with Silver Sails body, etc.) to meet speed-to-market demands
high · Direct account from Steve Smith via Nicholas Baldridge; corroborated by multiple examples of field-found machines with mixed configurations
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design_philosophy: Bally bingo machines feature sophisticated state-machine design enabling seamless transitions between game modes; machines manage inline wins and section wins simultaneously with partial Magic Screen display changes
high · Detailed technical explanation by Nicholas Baldridge of control unit relay systems and mode-switching mechanisms; expressed admiration for engineering sophistication
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restoration_signal: Wood rail bingo machines being actively collected and prepared for exhibition; call for community participation in bringing machines to York Show suggests active restoration and preservation community
high · Nicholas Baldridge's explicit recruitment for wood rail row; invitation for collectors to message with concerns; indicates living restoration/exhibition community
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community_signal: Pinball/bingo collector community actively engaged with podcast content; episode 190 suggests sustained listenership interested in deep technical and historical detail

Topics

Bingo pinball machine design and mechanicsprimary1962 Bally Silver Sails specific features and artworkprimarySister game interchangeability and manufacturing practicesprimaryYork Show (White Rose Game Room Show) 2024 organizationprimaryWood rail row inaugural exhibit at York ShowsecondaryVintage pinball machine collection and preservationsecondaryComplex mechanical engineering in vintage bingo gamessecondary

Sentiment

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Transcript

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what's that sound it's for amusement only the em and bingo pinball podcast welcome back to for amusement only this is Nicholas Baldridge continuing if you can believe it there are more bingos coming to the york show The York Show is October 9th and 10th at the York Fairgrounds in New York, Pennsylvania. It's also called the White Rose Game Room Show. It's my favorite show. It's the only one I'm attending this year, and it's usually the only one that I attend. There's a fantastic mix of wood rails, EMs, solid-state games, DMD games, and, of course, bingos. This year we're putting together the first ever wood rail row. And I would encourage anyone who's listening, if you have a bingo and are thinking about bringing it, but have some concerns, please message me at 4amusementonlypodcast at gmail.com. I would love to talk to you. We have a lot coming, but there are many, many more that Bally produced, and I would love to see them all there. I know that's unlikely, but if you have something and you want to talk, let me know. I'm here. So, for tonight, I wanted to talk about yet another bingo that's coming called Silver Sails. Now, if you listened to the Golden Gate episode that I did with Steve Smith, then you practically know everything about Silver Sails. Silver Sails is the sister game to Golden Gate. And Silver Sails, aside from the artwork, plays identically. It has the Golden Game, it's got the purple section, and it's got all the other typical Magic Screen features, including Pick-a-Play, Extra Balls, Yellow and Red Super Sections, and the blue section scores either 300 or 600 with either three or only two balls. So this is a really deep game and I've had the pleasure of playing both Golden Gate and Silver Sails and I love them both. I just think that this particular magic screen is really really fun but who am I kidding I like them all so Silver Sails the big difference between it and Golden Gate is the artwork the artwork on Silver Sails is a boating motif instead of San Francisco Now the cabinet stencil on Silver Sails reminds me a bit of Bounty but instead of having the large ship kind of looming over the backbox on the side of the backbox you've got various flags similar to what you'd see on a ship sailed for pleasure or in a boating race of some kind. You have the seagull flying by, which I think is a nice touch. There's another seagull on the cabinet side. And here you've got various boats. So it's almost like you're in the boat, and you look up and you see the flags, on the side of the backbox. You look over to your right, and you see the other sailboats floating past, which I think is pretty cool. The back glass is kind of like a boat race at sunset. So you've got a beautiful golden sky, and the silver sails are depicted on the back glass. You know, as the sun starts to set, if you can imagine, you're on the water, you look over at a sailboat, which has normally a white sail, it's going to change color or become iridescent as the sun sets. And so I believe that's where the title comes from. Now, as you may have heard on the Golden Gate podcast, the back glasses, cabinets, and playfields are completely interchangeable between these games. That's not usually or always the case, but in this case, as Steve Smith had mentioned, they were cranking them out. they were trying to get these games out the door quickly and sold so sometimes they were just jamming in whatever parts they had Steve's bingo that he used to play on location had a Golden Gate Backglass but a Silver Sails rest of the game and there were several that I've heard of that were made that way and there were a few that were made the other way that I've heard of. Now, there were probably many, many, many that were made with this kind of mix-up and it must have been hard to tell them apart in the factory. So, let's talk about the insides a little bit. the only difference internally between GoldenGate and SilverSails is that on SilverSails there is I believe one cam on the control unit which is shaped slightly differently which will prevent you from getting certain features that GoldenGate does not or maybe it's the other way around I wish I could find the technical write-up that I had seen on that I'm sure it's probably right in front of my face but I don quite recall where it is at this moment But the games essentially from the player perspective play identically Now, if you want to read how this game plays and understand the Golden Game before the York Show, or just in general, for those of you that have Jeffrey Lawton's excellent Bally Bingo Pinball Machines book, look at page 106. Starting with the paragraph second from the bottom that says, let's discuss play a little bit, you'll be able to see his illustrations and follow along with how he says this game plays. And hopefully that'll be relatively clear. now as you've probably heard these are very complex machines that did an awful lot of on the fly calculation and the golden game is one of the more complex not necessarily, I don't know if complex is the right word it's a big feature. I'll just put it that way. It requires the machine to completely change its state. And there are several things in a Ballybingo which do this, but the Golden Game is one of the most obvious. So anytime that you change modes in a bingo, the game has to completely rethink and rewire itself. And it's pretty incredible the ways that they did this. Here's an example. And this goes for any game with pick-a-play with extra balls. If you push the yellow button after shooting your fifth ball, then it'll put the game into extra ball mode. and actually you can do this after your fourth ball is shot, I believe. At any rate, this trips out two different trip relays in most games in the backbox. These trip relays not only direct the step-up voltage to the extra ball unit, if such a thing is granted, but they also change the game in such a way that the pick-a-play buttons will all register as yellow except for the red button. Now, as you've heard maybe 30 to 1,000 times on this show, or maybe it's only once. I can't remember how often I've said this, but when you first walk up to a bingo, you push the red button. this sets the game into a different mode where it will accept coin and start a new game. If the game is still set in extra ball mode and there are already three extra balls which have stepped up and are on the playfield then guess what? Do you think it just starts a game and knows what you doing Nope It just eats your money So I think that that is pretty clever Not from the standpoint of it eating your money, but think about the good aspect of that. Instead of resetting the entire game, it will eat your money, yes, but it will allow you to shoot that ball, which may be in the shooter lane. Who knows? Or maybe you've shot the ball and now you have a winner, but it has not been collected. You just push the R button and away you go. Now you got free money. But, you know, that's one example. The Golden Game is another. The machine completely changes state from the typical shoot three, four, or five in a row, or shoot three, four, or five in a section, which is yet another state change, to shoot two or three in a particular golden section in the golden game. so let's also spend a moment and talk about how the bingos were so cleverly designed that you can get an inline win and the game can transition into a section win seamlessly with the same what am I trying to say not with the same but with part of the screen showing inline wins and part of the screen showing sections, you can actually get a win in both, and the game understands this. This is some of the stuff that I find so fascinating. The games are engineered so well that it's really hard from a player's perspective for you to get confused or lose your place in the game or be cheated out of a win that you made and rightfully won, it's just, it leaves me speechless. Not that you can tell after almost 190 episodes, but these games are amazing. and Silver Sails will hopefully be at the Orc Show. This is a maybe game, and I'm really hoping that it will be there. It will be so beautiful to see Silver Sails beside a Golden Gate. And the particular Silver Sails in question is itself a thing of absolute beauty. So the two side-by-side should be quite the stunning pair. well that's all for tonight my name again is Nicholas Baldridge you can reach me at for amusement only podcast at gmail.com or you can call me on the bingos line that's 724 bingos 1724 246 4671 you can listen to us on itunes stitcher pocket casts via rss on facebook on twitter at bingo podcast. You can follow me on Instagram at nbaldridge, or you can listen to us on our website, which is 4amusementonly.libsyn.com. Thank you very much for listening, and I'll talk to you next time.