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Ep 13 - We Can't Wait!

Jersey Jack Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·22m 49s·held·Oct 17, 2022
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TL;DR

Jersey Jack announces free factory tours and celebrity appearances at Chicago Pinball Expo.

Summary

Ken Crone hosts the Jersey Jack Pinball Podcast discussing upcoming activities at the 38th Chicago Pinball Expo (October 19-22). Jersey Jack will offer free factory tours via luxury motor coaches departing every 45 minutes starting at 9 AM Thursday, featuring meet-and-greets with designers including Steve Ritchie, Eric Meunier, and Jack Guarnieri. The booth will feature playable Toy Story 4 (10 LE, 1 CE) and Guns N' Roses games, plus the full JJP back catalog. Additional highlights include an Art & Animation seminar Friday at 9 PM and a special appearance by YouTube personality Gavin Free (The Slow Mo Guys) Saturday 5-9 PM.

Key Claims

  • Chicago Pinball Expo is in its 38th year and is the only pinball expo run consistently for the last 37 years

    high confidence · Ken Crone, podcast host, opening segment on Chicago Pinball Expo

  • Gavin Free's Willy Wonka ultra slow-motion video has over 1.7 million views

    high confidence · Ken Crone, mid-podcast statement about video viewership

  • Pat Lawlor has decided to retire

    high confidence · Ken Crone, discussing Pat Lawlor retirement status regarding Toy Story 4

  • Jersey Jack will have 7 motor coach departures from Chicago Pinball Expo to their facility, 45 minutes apart, starting at 9:00 AM

    high confidence · Ken Crone, detailed logistics explanation of Thursday factory tour program

  • The round-trip time for the factory tour experience is approximately 90 minutes

    high confidence · Ken Crone, tour logistics segment

Notable Quotes

  • “It was that earthshaker. It was the gateway for everything else that had happened to me in pinball.”

    Ken Crone @ ~45:00 — Personal origin story connecting Pat Lawler's Earthshaker design to Cromwell's entire pinball career trajectory, used to emphasize Lawler's legacy impact

  • “I truly think that Gavin Free is a great ambassador for pinball. He's somebody that's enthusiastic about pinball, knows how to play, knows how to explain a rule set.”

    Ken Crone @ ~22:00 — Assessment of content creator value to pinball industry and community engagement

  • “At this point, pinball manufacturing is probably very similar from company to company, as I said earlier. And we invite you to come on in and check it out. We're proud on how we do things at Jersey Jack, so you can absolutely come on in and be our guest.”

    Ken Crone @ ~18:00 — Shows Jersey Jack's confidence and openness, even welcoming competitors to factory tours

  • “In my opinion, I think Toy Story has proven to be a pretty polarizing game.”

    Ken Crone @ ~38:00 — Direct acknowledgment that Toy Story 4 has divided the community opinion despite strong IP and designer

  • “I would be stunned if somebody walked away from a pinball experience and couldn't find something that they thought was interesting.”

    Ken Crone @ ~32:00 — Community growth pitch emphasizing diversity of themes and mechanics as conversion opportunity

Entities

Ken CronepersonJersey Jack PinballcompanyChicago Pinball ExpoeventPat LawlorpersonGavin FreepersonSteve RitchiepersonEric Meunierperson

Signals

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    event_signal: Chicago Pinball Expo factory tour program unprecedented for Jersey Jack Pinball; first time offering free in-person live tours at Expo with luxury motor coaches and meet-and-greet with design team

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'Jersey Jack Pinball for the first time ever...we're going to be offering free in-person live tours...This is the 38th year for Chicago Pinball Expo'

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    content_signal: Gavin Free's Willy Wonka slow-motion video reached 1.7M+ views, positioned as single most-viewed pinball content in history; generating significant industry awareness and serving as community ambassador

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'he produced what I believe is the single most viewed piece of pinball content or video in the history of pinball...over 1.7 million views. Completely viral.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Pat Lawler retired after designing Toy Story 4 for Jersey Jack Pinball; Cromwell confirms retirement status but notes possibility of future returns

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'As of right now, Pat's decided that he has gone into retirement. Now, does that mean that he's not going to come back and make another game at some point? I have no idea.'

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    community_signal: Ken Cromwell describes Toy Story 4 as 'pretty polarizing' despite iconic IP and legendary designer, suggesting mixed reception in community

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'In my opinion, I think Toy Story has proven to be a pretty polarizing game. You've got one of the most iconic pinball licenses of all time coming from Disney and Pixar...And combining that with one of the most iconic pinball designers of all time in Pat Lawler.'

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Transcript

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Hey, what's going on, Pinball Land? Welcome to another episode of the Jersey Jack Pinball Podcast. My name's Ken Cromwell, and I'm your host. So it's been a little while since we've all connected via the podcast. I'm going to do my best to bring you up to speed as to what has been happening at Jersey Jack Pinball since we last spoke. Now, obviously, Jerser Jack Pinball, we released Toy Story 4 by Disney Pixar. We're going to talk a little bit more about that game later in the podcast. What I'd like to do is I'd like to start the show off talking about something that's happening this week, and that's the Chicago Pinball Expo. Now, this is the 38th year for Chicago Pinball Expo. To my knowledge, it's the only pinball expo that's run consistently for the last 37 years. That's going to happen at the Schomburg Renaissance Center October 19th through the 22nd. So as you're walking the show, we encourage you to stop by the Jersey Jack Pinball booth. For a lot of you, this will be the first time that you've had an opportunity to get on Toy Story 4. Now, the games that we're going to have playable set up in our booth to play, we'll have 10 Toy Story LEs. Those are the limited editions. We'll have one Toy Story 4 CE, which is the collector's edition. And then we'll have three Guns N' Roses LEs, again, limited editions. Now, if you want to play our back catalog of games, we've got some good news because our entire catalog will be there set up playable throughout the show. So you'll be able to play a Wizard of Oz, a Hobbit, a Dialed In, a Pirates of the Caribbean, a Willy Wonka. All those games are going to be there as well as Toy Story and Guns N' Roses. So it's a great opportunity for you to get on some games, maybe some games you've never played. One thing that I realized when I was at Texas Pinball Festival, and this was in March, is that for a lot of people, it's the first time you're able to step up and get on these games. And with Toy Story 4 being relatively new, it hasn't been out very long. I would imagine a lot of you, this will be the first time that you get in front of the game and you play it. We're going to get a little bit more into the gameplay and what to expect on Toy Story 4 in just a bit. Now, if we go day by day, Thursday, Friday, Saturday being the main days at Expo that you're going to be visiting inside of the show, I want to tell you some unique things that will be happening with Jersersey Jack Pinball on each one of those days.
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Jack Guarnieri
person
Joe Katzperson
Bill Gruppperson
Mark Molitorperson
J.P. DeWinperson
John Youssiperson
Toy Story 4game
Guns N' Rosesgame
Willy Wonkagame
Earthshakergame
The Slow Mo Guysorganization
Loser Kid Pinball Podcastorganization
TPN (The Pinball Network)organization
Learning Solutionsorganization
Replay Magazineorganization

community_signal: Loser Kid Pinball Podcast and TPN organizing multi-manufacturer 12-hour charity stream 'Flipping the Script' at Chicago Pinball Expo to support autism therapy organization; 100% of proceeds going to Learning Solutions

high · Ken Cromwell: 'all the manufacturers have taken part in the fundraiser...100% of the proceeds, which are monetary, will go directly to that organization'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Jersey Jack Pinball hosting Art & Animation seminar at Chicago Pinball Expo featuring J.P. DeWin, Mark Molitor, and Hall of Famer John Youssi; promises never-before-seen content and behind-the-scenes look at collaborative design process

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'there are things that you will see in that seminar that you have never seen...as a pinball enthusiast, if you've got an appreciation for award-winning art and animation in pinball, this is going to be a great seminar'

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    venue_signal: Chicago Pinball Expo maintaining 38-year continuous operation; positioned as premier pinball convention; 2024 event October 19-22 at Schomburg Renaissance Center

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'it's been a little while since we've all connected via the podcast...the Chicago Pinball Expo. Now, this is the 38th year for Chicago Pinball Expo. To my knowledge, it's the only pinball expo that's run consistently for the last 37 years.'

  • ?

    marketing_signal: Jersey Jack Pinball bringing YouTube content creator Gavin Free (The Slow Mo Guys) as special guest to Chicago Pinball Expo Saturday booth appearance; positions influencer as pinball ambassador and leverages viral content success

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'Jerserick Jack Pinball, we're bringing in a special guest to the show who will be at the Jerserick Jack Pinball booth...Mr. Gavin Free of the extremely popular YouTube channel, The Slow Mo Guys...I think is a great ambassador for pinball'

  • ?

    business_signal: Jersey Jack Pinball demonstrating production capacity by fielding 10 Toy Story 4 LE units and 1 CE unit plus entire back catalog at Chicago Pinball Expo; full assembly line tour shows simultaneous production of multiple SKUs

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'Right now, you'll see Toy Story LE on one of our lines, Toy Story Collector Edition on the other...you'll be walking through that assembly line...we'll have 10 Toy Story LEs...one Toy Story 4 CE...three Guns N' Roses LEs'

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    operational_signal: Jersey Jack Pinball organizing sophisticated factory tour program with 7 scheduled departures via 56-passenger luxury motor coaches, small-group rotations led by multiple staff members, 90-minute round-trip, photos encouraged, facility access open to competitor employees

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'Windy City Limousine...56-passenger motor coaches...buses...in rotation...9.45, 10.30, 11.15, 12, 12.45, and 1.30...split you up into smaller groups'

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    historical_signal: Ken Cromwell shares personal origin story tracing his entire pinball career to single arcade experience on Pat Lawler's Earthshaker machine at Clearwater Mall decades prior; illustrates designer's lasting influence on consumer pipeline

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'if it wasn't for me being exposed and having a positive experience on that Earthshaker Pinball in Clearwater Mall decades prior, I can almost guarantee you that I would not be involved in pinball...For that, Pat, I will be forever grateful.'

  • Now, on Thursday, right, this is the 20th, this is pretty exciting, Jersersey Jack Pinball for the first time ever. Okay, we're going to be offering free in-person live tours. These aren't virtual tours. This is live. You're going to physically be in our building. We're going to take you through and show you how we make pinball machines. You're going to be able to meet staff, meet and greet. Jack Gugnery is going to be there. Jersey Jen is going to be there. The team at Jersey Jack, people that are making the games will be there. Eric Meunier, Joe Katz, Keith Johnson, Steve Ritchie. Okay, so at this point, you're thinking to yourself, hey, you know what? I think I do want to go on this Jersey Jack pinball tour. I want to see how they make pinball machines. I want to hang out with some of the team members there and maybe ask some questions, right? How do I do this? Where do I go? Where do I sign up? This is going to be as easy as I think it gets, guys, and it's going to start at 9 o'clock on Thursday the 20th. We're going to have the first motor coach that's going to depart Chicago Pinball Expo taking you over to Jersey Jack Pinball. Now, these are luxury 56-passenger motor coaches from Windy City Limousine. You'll come in. There will be a table that will be right outside of the convention center where you would normally enter the vendor hall. And that table, you will see a Jersey Jack Pinball staff member. There will be a sign-up sheet where you can just sign your name in for free. We're not charging anything for the tours. Once you're signed in, you can get yourself on the bus. Now, because of the capacity of 56 passengers, I anticipate that there will be buses that will be to capacity by the time somebody gets to get on a bus or tries to get on a bus. And that's okay because if you miss the 9 o'clock bus, guess what? Now, we have another bus that's coming in 45 minutes. We actually have two buses that'll be in rotation. So you miss the 9 o'clock bus, no problem. At 9.45, you can jump on that bus. If that's not a good time for you, don't worry about it. Because in 45 minutes after that, you will have another bus around 10.30, another one at 11.15, at 12, at 12.45, and at 1.30. So you'll have seven opportunities to get on one of these motor coaches and be brought to Jersey Jack Pinball. All right, so now you're on the motor coach, you're on your way to Jersey Jack Pinball, what's going to happen? Well, when you get there, we're going to split you up into smaller groups. Probably not ideal to try to bring 56 people through a tour at the same time. It's probably a little hectic on both ends. So we're going to split you up into groups. Tour guys that will be there in the morning, you'll have Bill Grupp and Joe Katz from Software at Jersey Jack Pinball, and you'll have Eric Meunier, designer at Jersey Jack Pinball. You'll be assigned to one of those groups, and they're going to take you through. And if I remember correctly, I believe Bill's got to step away for the last couple tours. I'll be stepping in for him. So if you want to come jump on the Ken Cromwell tour, you're welcome to do that on the later tours. I'll be there. So you're with your tour guide. You embark on the tour. And the tour is designed to take you through the facility from start to finish, from parts coming into the door to the assembly of games to, you know, packaging of games and going out the door shipping. So it'll be a unique experience. I mean, you'll be walking through that assembly line. Right now, you'll see Toy Story LE on one of our lines, Toy Story Collector Edition on the other. So you'll have an up-close kind of perspective on how that's taking place. I would almost guarantee, for those of you that have been on pinball tours before, and I certainly have, it's just a fun experience just to kind of have a behind-the-scenes look. And although the idea of manufacturing is very similar throughout the different manufacturers, there's always some subtle differences and maybe a major difference or two that you might see that you haven't seen before. And then at the conclusion of your tour, there's a little bit of time before your departure back to Expo, so we'll have team members there that you can talk to. If you want to mingle with Jersie Jack or Jersie Jen, they're going to be there. You know, Eric Meunier, Steve Ritchie, Joe Katz, Keith Johnson, those guys will be hanging out. You can actually get a photo with those guys We will have a photo area set up specifically for this So if you want to kind of step up and get a picture bring your phones We be able to take those for you No problem You know, and speaking of phones, a popular question is, hey, can I take a picture in the facility? Can I take a picture in the tour? Yeah, absolutely. If you have your phone, you want to take some pictures. We encourage you to do that. It's a situation where you're in a, you know, maybe something that you're not involved with every single day. We want you to be able to take pictures and have memories of that. So for sure, if you want to bring a phone in there and take some pics or a camera, go for it. Another question, hey, what if I work at another manufacturer, Ken? Can I come to the tour? Absolutely. Be our guest. Come on in. Come check out Jerser Jack Pinball. We encourage you to come take a visit. Again, nothing to hide. At this point, pinball manufacturing is probably very similar from company to company, as I said earlier. And we invite you to come on in and check it out. We're proud on how we do things at Jersey Jack, so you can absolutely come on in and be our guest. So at the conclusion of your meet and greet with the staff, you'll be back on. Your motor coach will be taking you back to Chicago Pinball Expo. So I would guesstimate total round-trip time from the time that you leave the Expo, get to Jersey Jack, go through the tour, hang out with staff, and then have your transportation back. I would say roughly probably 90 minutes from the time you leave Expo to your return. So it's not anything that's going to take up the entire day. The tour will be efficient, but it'll be thorough, and then you'll have that opportunity to get back to Expo and get on with your day. And again, those buses leave every 45 minutes, starting at 9 o'clock, 9.45, 10.30, 11.15, 12 o'clock, 12.45, and 1.30 will be the bus departure time. So go in there, come visit us, come hang out. We are excited to do it. It's not anything that we've ever done in Chicago especially, so we're just as excited to do it as we hope that you are to be our guest. Now that's Thursday. Let's go on over to Friday. You've got a full day of Expo. You're having fun. And we ask that you clear your schedule at nine o'clock that evening because we have a seminar that's going to be hosted by J.P. DeWin, Arts and Animation at Jersey Jack Pinball, Mark Molitor, Art and Animation at Jersey Jack Pinball, and Hall of Fame Pinball artist John Yousey. The three of them will be offering a seminar, Art and Animation with Jersey Jack Pinball. Those guys have been working on quite the presentation to kind of give you an inside behind the scenes look as to what happens when these guys are teamed up and working on a game. Now, without letting too much out of the bag, I can say that there are things that you will see in that seminar that you have never seen. So as a pinball enthusiast, if you've got an appreciation for award-winning art and animation in pinball, this is going to be a great seminar for you to stop by, check out. Again, J.P. DeWin, Mark Molitor, John Yowse, Friday night, 9 o'clock seminar.
    8:22
    So on Friday, you might have had a long night. You might have been up a little bit late hanging out with some friends, taking in some seminars, perhaps having a beverage or two along the way. Make sure that you're up early enough for Saturday at one o'clock. There's a pinball author, artist and designer autograph session. So all your favorites, you'll be able to come in and meet and get those autographs, not just from Jerser Jack Pinball, from other companies as well. All the cool people will be there. So if you want to bring in that TransLite or that pinball flyer that you've been meaning to get autographed, go ahead. Now a few hours after that, Jerserick Jack Pinball, we're bringing in a special guest to the show who will be at the Jerserick Jack Pinball booth. And this is a guy I've gotten the pleasure to know a little bit over the last year and a half, who I think is a great ambassador for pinball, Mr. Gavin Free of the extremely popular YouTube channel, The Slow Mo Guys. A little background story with Gavin and Jerserick Jack Pinball. A couple years ago, I had reached out to Gavin on behalf of Jerserick Jack Pinball. A lot of us are fans of his work, and if you're not familiar with his work, I encourage you to go to YouTube, type in The Slow Mo Guys, And you can see their ultra slow motion footage and content that they create. That is it's unbelievable. We had this idea that we would like to get some of our game footage on Willy Wonka recorded in ultra slow motion so that we could kind of see what's going on on the play field that you can't pick up with the naked eye. And it would also give pinball enthusiasts in general a deeper inside look at pinball that you've never seen before. So we shipped a Willy Wonka and the Chalka Factory pinball machine to Gavin, and he produced what I believe is the single most viewed piece of pinball content or video in the history of pinball. And that was with the ultra slow motion footage of Willy Wonka and the Chalka Factory pinball machine. I will put a link in the show notes. If you've not seen this video, it's remarkable. It's unbelievable. More importantly, the way that Gavin was able to capture this footage and bring pinball to a whole nother audience and show the fascination and the intricacies of how pinball works was amazing. I truly think that Gavin Free is a great ambassador for pinball. He's somebody that's enthusiastic about pinball, knows how to play, knows how to explain a rule set. The video really showcased not only the ultra slow motion pinball footage, but really his passion and his knowledge for pinball, something that I had not anticipated before. So it was an honor to be able to work with him. So we wanted to bring him up to Expo as our guest. And he was excited about coming out to not only his first pinball Expo, his first pinball convention ever, but just meeting the people that are fans of pinball. and his content. So come on out again. That's going to be Saturday night, 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. in the Jersey Jack Pinball booth. So come by, say hi to Gavin, talk some pinball. Let's all hang out. It's going to be a great time. And by the way, that video that Gavin created covering ultra slow motion footage of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory as of this podcast right now has over 1.7 million views. Completely viral. Outstanding job. Again, a link to that video in the show notes. Go check it out.
    11:04
    Now, something that's happening outside of Jersey Jack Pinball that I think that it's important to recognize, And that's going to take place on Thursday. The Loser Kids from Loser Kid Pinball Podcast and TPN, which is the Pinball Network, they're teaming up to help children with autism. It a fundraiser called Flipping the Script It a 12 charity stream And on the stream there going to be guests Right now they got auctions going for unique items from different manufacturers You want to mark your calendars for October 20th Again it Thursday at Pinball Expo in Chicago It's a live event. You'll be able to walk by and see that being streamed at the show. Proceeds are going towards Learning Solutions. It's a Utah-based organization that helps with early intervention autism therapy for kids that are as young as two and all the way into their late teenage years. The organization helps kids with autism by giving them one-on-one teachers to help develop skills like speech, social, positive reinforcement, to name a few. To my knowledge, all the manufacturers have taken part in the fundraiser to kind of help support this. It's for a good cause. Now, I would like to say that on behalf of Jersey Jack Pinball and myself personally, extremely grateful that everybody's putting together the time and the effort, especially the Loser Kid Pinball podcast, TPN, to kind of get this going. I specifically like that 100% of the proceeds, which are monetary, will go directly to that organization and they can figure out how to divvy up the funds. So obviously the goal is to have a positive impact. We encourage you to take part and I will put a link in the show notes to tell you how you can become more involved and check out some of those live auction items because you can still participate even if you're not at Pinball Expo. Loser Kids, TPN, great job.
    12:31
    All right, everybody, if you have the means, get out to Pinball Expo. So if you want more information about the show, times, an itinerary, that sort of thing, you can go to pinballexpo.com for more information. Personally, this show has always been something that I've really supported heavily even prior to working in the pinball industry with it being my local town show. I've always done everything that I can to help Rob and Bridget Burke and their whole team over there. And I'm proud of the show. I'm proud to be a part of the show. And being involved from the industry side of things makes that even more exciting for me. So if you can, get out there. Bring a friend. And you know what? Bring somebody that's never been on a pinball machine. Bring somebody that's never – bring somebody that doesn't even know you have pinball machines in your basement because you know you have them in there. Bring them out. Expose them to it. I think a lot of times somebody might not have interest in pinball because they jumped on a machine that maybe that just did not interest them. And it's easy to kind of blanket pinball based on one experience on one machine. A unique thing like a pinball expo or even a pinball night at somebody's house is somebody gets exposure to a wide range of different types of machines, different themes, different genres. And I would be stunned if somebody walked away from a pinball experience and couldn't find something that they thought was interesting. You know, is it a gateway to get people into pinball and playing more pinball? You know, possibly, possibly not. But at the very least, you know, sharing something that you're enthusiastic and giving somebody else a general idea of what this encompasses, I think, can be beneficial and be, you know, pretty impressive. And I think another really important way to look at this is that when you attend a pinball show and there's hundreds or thousands of people that are there, you probably can bet that you have one thing in common at least, and that is your appreciation for pinball. I would say most people aren't at a pinball convention if they don't have any interest or appreciation for the industry or for the hobby. And to be able to connect with these people knowing that you have at least that in common is something that's truly unique. I think it also offers a chance for some to kind of put petty differences aside and be able to hang out and have fun in the same venue, knowing that you're supporting and appreciating something that you have in common and being able to have a common ground in supporting those that have dedicated so much of their lives creating these games in the past, in the present and in the future. Hours, days, years, making games so that we can have some enjoyment is something that I really think we should all think about and we should be appreciative of. And of course, celebrating you, those that are enthusiasts, those that are buying the games, that are adding them to your collections. Some of you buy games because you love the art and the light shows. Some of you buy games because of the rule set. Some of you buy games because it creates a social environment where you can have friends and family over. You can all do the same thing. These are all things that we can call attention to that we can celebrate during a pinball expo. Now, and can you do it at any other time of the year? Absolutely. But again, it's one time where all of us are in one spot celebrating the same thing. And if you happen to see me at the show this week, please stop and introduce yourself. If you have time, it'd be great to meet you. Let's talk a little bit of pinball.
    15:21
    Now, with Toy Story being our most recent release that had come out in June, it's going to be a great time for us to showcase the game at the show. Again, a lot of you, this will be your first time playing Toy Story. In my opinion, I think Toy Story has proven to be a pretty polarizing game. You've got one of the most iconic pinball licenses of all time coming from Disney and Pixar. And combining that with one of the most iconic pinball designers of all time in Pat Lawler. Taking this into consideration, I encourage you to jump on the game at the show, whether it's in our booth or another booth. Get on the game and get as many games on it as you can. And I would say for a great majority of you, this will be a truly fun pinball experience that is absolutely worthy of a spot in your game room. And if you have any questions about the game or how to play the game, there will be plenty of us there to help you along the way. Now, as it pertains to Pat Lawler, because we've had questions about Pat. Is Pat retired? Is Pat coming back? Is Pat taking a break? As of right now, Pat's decided that he has gone into retirement. Now, does that mean that he's not going to come back and make another game at some point? I have no idea. People come in and out of retirement. It does happen. And I do want to share with you a personal story. And it took place on Pat Lawler's last day at Jersey Jack Pinball. Now, at some point, hopefully soon, I'd like to be able to cover Pat's career and everything that he's done with pinball. It'd be impossible for me to sum something like that up in a few minutes in a podcast. But for now, I did want to share with you this story. And it was Pat Lawler's last day at Jerserick Jack Pinball.
    16:41
    Now driving into work that day, I had a lot of mixed feelings. I was driving into Jerserick Jack knowing that it was Pat's last day. It would be the last time that I might see him at the factory.
    16:50
    Now would I see Pat again maybe at a pinball show or him visiting the factory or going to his house for a pool party? Sure, absolutely.
    16:57
    But would I see him again at Jerserick Jack Pinball as a designer? That weighed heavily on my mind And here I am talking about Pat last day at Jersie Jack but I remember my first day at Jersie Jack Pinball two and a half years ago Now I had met Pat before so he knew who I was but to be working at Jersie Jack Pinball as a colleague was quite an honor for me And it wasn't just Pat, it was everybody that worked there. Many of these people had dedicated their lives to the gaming industry and pinball, and it was just a real honor, a sense of history in the building. Something that I always appreciated prior to even thinking about working in pinball was just the great appreciation I had for these people. Pat had stood out to me personally for the obvious reasons of him being such a prolific pinball designer. But even more so than that, Pat not knowing it really kind of got me into pinball. Out of high school and after my first year of college, I had moved down to Florida to pursue a career playing baseball. And obviously somebody that was trying to play minor league baseball, I didn't exactly have a dependable salary. So to make ends meet, I was working at Clearwater Mall. I was working at Montgomery Ward Electric Avenue. I was selling TVs, VCRs, CD players, for those of you that remember those times.
    18:02
    But on lunch, I'd walk into the mall and there would be an arcade and it was close to Montgomery Ward. And on the outskirts of the arcade, there was a pinball machine and it was Earthshaker. And I remember one afternoon on my way to lunch to the food court, if you remember those that used to happen in malls, I stopped by and I put a quarter in Earthshaker. I never played it before. And the game pulled me in right away. The first thing I noticed was that shaker motor going off was like a feedback that I had never had in any other games. And at the time, I wasn't heavy into pinball. I'd played some pinball as a kid, but it wasn't anything that I was passionate about as a young adult trying to find my career. So I stepped away from that game with a positive experience. Now on the way back from lunch, going back to work, I put another quarter in the game and I played it.
    18:40
    What slowly ended up happening was that my lunch hour was no longer consumed with me trying to feed myself fuel to last through the day. It was me trying to get back on Earthshaker to play the game. So every hour, every day of every week, I would be in there playing Earthshaker. I had to put $1,000 into that game over the course of several months. And you know how pinball can be. Sometimes you leave a game thinking that this is the most unbelievable thing and most fun experience you've had in your life, and then other times you're ready to never play the game again. It's just pinball. It's just what happens. But there was something about it that kept me coming back for more.
    19:11
    So after about a year and a half of playing baseball down in Florida, an injury had caused me to essentially retire at about 19, 20 years old with a partially torn rotator cuff. You're not really coming back from that back in those days. So I moved back home. And one of the things that I had missed the most about being in Florida, obviously playing baseball, but I missed playing Earthshaker at Clearwater Mall.
    19:32
    And I remember at that time thinking to myself, I wonder if one day I could own an Earthshaker pinball machine. It would be so fun to have. Anyways, long story short, decades had gone by and I was perusing the local, I had a Google Craigslist looking for arcade games, and somebody had an Earthshaker pinball for sale.
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    And I'm remembering at the time, I think it was maybe $2,000 or $2,500. And when you come from the arcade side of things, you're buying kind of beater projects, and you're restoring them, and you're selling them, or you're collecting them. $2,000 was a pretty significant investment. But I didn't even hesitate to try to make that work. And I went out, and I picked up that Earthshaker pinball. That Earthshaker came back to my house, and I played the heck out of it. I had since moved it on. I know a lot of people don't sell their first game, but for me to kind of keep going in the hobby, I had to move one along to bring another one in, but it was that earthshaker.
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    It was the gateway for everything else that had happened to me in pinball. Going on further to be a collector and an enthusiast, to start a pinball podcast with a local friend of mine, Bill Webb, to go into pinball streaming, eventually working for a pinball manufacturer with Jerser Jack Pinball. And if it wasn't for me being exposed and having a positive experience on that Earthshaker Pinball in Clearwater Mall decades prior, I can almost guarantee you that I would not be involved in pinball, at least not as heavily as I am right now. So for that experience, I thanked Pat because for me, it was something that he had created that literally altered the outcome of my life.
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    And for that, Pat, I will be forever grateful. Make sure you pick up the October issue of Replay Magazine. Cover story this month, October 2022, is Jersey Jack Pinball. A motley crew on the cover of that magazine with Steve Ritchie, Eric Meunier, Mark Seiden, and Jersey Jack Guanieri himself. Pick it up now. Learn more about what happened in the company's past, present, and future. And Toy Story 4 Pinball, the most current release. And this is going to be crazy, but who's thinking about the holidays right now? I don't know about you, but on the holidays, I like to entertain. I like to have people over, and I like to show them a good time. So jump on JerseyJackPinball.com where you can order a new Guns N' Roses Limited Edition or Toy Story 4 Limited Edition today. You'll also be able to find a full list of our distributor partners there both domestically and internationally at JerseyJackPinball.com slash distributors.
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    And that's going to wrap up this episode of the Jersey Jack Pinball Podcast. Come give us a visit on social media, Facebook and Instagram at JerseyJackPinball.com, Twitter at JJPinball. If you want to contact me at the show, you can reach out at podcast at jerseyjackpinball.com. And while you're at it, jump over to pinballwizard.com. Pinballwizard.com is the official merch and accessory add-on store for Jersey Jack Pinball. It's run by us. It's our little satellite store. Right now you can go in there, you can get the legendary Black Cat Expo 22 shirt, which was illustrated by our in-house artist Mark Molitor. You can order that t-shirt right now. Or hey, you know what, if you're at the show, pick one up there, because we're going to have a lot of t-shirts, hats, playfields, translates. It's all going to be up there. And hey, if you've been thinking about this but you just haven't taken the step forward either pursuing a career in pinball or continuing a career in pinball at Jersey Jack Pinball, you can send us a resume at careers at JerseyJackPinball.com. That's going to be it today, everybody. Enjoy your week. Enjoy Pinball Expo. And don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long, everybody.