The Dragon's Lair License May Not Have Been Approved for Pinball Yet

Knapp Arcade·article·analyzed·Apr 19, 2022

Analysis

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TL;DR

Dragon's Lair pinball licensing not yet secured despite project discussions.

Summary

A Pinside user (TreyBo69) contacted Digital Leisure to verify licensing status for a Dragon's Lair pinball project and received confirmation that no licensing agreement has been finalized, despite ongoing discussions. The article cautions against funding such a project via Kickstarter without secured IP rights, though notes that homebrew prototypes are often built before licensing is obtained.

Key Claims

No licensing agreement between Dragon's Lair pinball project and Digital Leisure/Dragon's Lair LLC has been finalized
high confidence · Official response from Paul Gold at Digital Leisure confirming 'nothing firm has been agreed to'
Discussions between the pinball project and Dragon's Lair IP holders have occurred
high confidence · Paul Gold response states 'has reached out to Digital Leisure and Dragon's Lair LLC'
The article author believes TreyBo69's secondhand information is credible
medium confidence · 'It seems to be real and I am leaning towards believing it, but one never knows'
Homebrew games are commonly built prior to securing licensing agreements
medium confidence · Article states 'Tons of homebrew games are built prior to reaching a licensing agreement'
American Pinball or Pedretti Gaming could potentially manufacture a Dragon's Lair pinball if prototypes are compelling
low confidence · Author speculation: 'I could see this game being picked up by someone like American Pinball or possibly even manufactured in conjunction with Pedretti Gaming'

Notable Quotes

“Thanks for reaching out. The person you mention has reached out to Digital Leisure and Dragon's Lair LLC (the licensing arm for all things Dragon's Lair) but has yet to secure any license. They have simply presented their ideas for the project, but nothing firm has been agreed to.”
Paul Gold, Digital Leisure — Official confirmation from IP licensing contact that Dragon's Lair pinball lacks secured license
“This certainly doesn't mean that an agreement between the two parties won't be reached. Tons of homebrew games are built prior to reaching a licensing agreement.”
Knapp Arcade (article author) — Contextualizes licensing uncertainty as not necessarily disqualifying; explains industry practice
“until an agreement is officially reached it goes without saying that it would be incredibly risky to fund this project via Kickstarter”
Knapp Arcade (article author) — Investment/funding risk warning for potential backers

Entities

Dragon's LairproductDigital LeisurecompanyDragon's Lair LLCcompanyPaul GoldpersonTreyBo69personAmerican Pinballcompany Pedretti Gamingcompany Knapp Arcadecompany Pinsideorganization

Signals

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business_signal: Uncertainty around Dragon's Lair IP licensing creates investment risk for potential Kickstarter backers
high · Article explicitly warns 'it would be incredibly risky to fund this project via Kickstarter' without secured licensing agreement
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leak_detection: Dragon's Lair pinball project existence and licensing status revealed via unofficial community inquiry and response sharing
high · TreyBo69 posted on Pinside after contacting Digital Leisure directly; licensing details previously unknown to broader community
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licensing_signal: Dragon's Lair pinball project lacks formal IP licensing agreement despite ongoing discussions with rights holders
high · Official response from Digital Leisure confirms 'nothing firm has been agreed to' between pinball project and Dragon's Lair LLC licensing arm

Topics

IP licensing for pinballprimaryDragon's Lair pinball project statusprimaryHomebrew pinball developmentsecondaryKickstarter funding risk for unlicensed projectssecondaryPotential manufacturers for Dragon's Lairmentioned

Sentiment

neutral(0)— Article presents factual information with measured caution; author neither dismisses nor enthusiastically endorses the Dragon's Lair project, instead highlighting licensing uncertainty as the key issue

Transcript

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A few minutes ago, an individual who goes by the username "TreyBo69" posted on Pinside that he reached out to Digital Leisure to see if a license to manufacture a pinball machine using the Dragon's Lair intellectual property has officially been secured yet. According to the response from the company that he shared, it appears as though while there has been discussions between the Dragon's Lair pinball project and the company, no licensing agreement has been agreed to yet. This certainly doesn't mean that an agreement between the two parties won't be reached. Tons of homebrew games are built prior to reaching a licensing agreement. If the Dragon's Lair pinball project comes up with some cool prototypes, I could see this game being picked up by someone like American Pinball or possibly even manufactured in conjunction with Pedretti Gaming, but until an agreement is officially reached it goes without saying that it would be incredibly risky to fund this project via Kickstarter. Another thing to keep in mind is this is all secondhand information. It seems to be real and I am leaning towards believing it, but one never knows. Below is the supposed response from Digital Leisure: "The response I received: Thanks for reaching out. The person you mention has reached out to Digital Leisure and Dragon’s Lair LLC (the licensing arm for all things Dragon’s Lair) but has yet to secure any license. They have simply presented their ideas for the project, but nothing firm has been agreed to. I have forwarded your email to the DL LLC as they would be direct point of contact for such a project and will follow up with the individual posting to the Facebook group. Thanks for the details. Best Regards, Paul Gold Digital Leisure"