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The Last Zaccaria

BlahCade Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·37m 22s·analyzed·Oct 18, 2019
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TL;DR

Blockade podcast discusses Zen's imminent announcement and Stern's Star Wars comic art reissue.

Summary

Chris Freebus and Jared Morgan discuss their personal updates (Chris's new Disney photography job, Jared's job change to Squiz), Lego Voltron building, and Zen Pinball developments. They cover Zen's upcoming announcement, the final Zen remake table (Star God), speculation about Farsight Studios, and Stern's new comic book art reissue of Star Wars pinball with hand-drawn artwork instead of photoshop. The hosts also discuss pinball table restoration projects and flipper rubber preferences.

Key Claims

  • Zen Studios is releasing an imminent announcement about upcoming content; Mel has already started hinting at it on Twitter

    high confidence · Chris states 'Our release date is imminent. It's coming. There's news coming. I'm just going to say that much, even Mel's talking about it on Twitter now.'

  • Star God is the final 'Zen original' remake table, with deluxe tables coming next based on remaking bonus/achievement unlock content

    medium confidence · Discussion of 'last official Zen tables' transitioning to 'deluxe tables' described as remakes of bonus tables, though Jared expresses uncertainty: 'I think. I think they're remaking those.'

  • Stern is reissuing Star Wars pinball with hand-drawn comic book art instead of the original Photoshop artwork

    high confidence · Chris confirms: 'Stern is reissuing Star Wars, but now with comic book art. And it's what they should have done all along.'

  • Farsight Studios is not working on Elvira pinball; the female-haired table mentioned was something else

    medium confidence · Jared: 'We can safely put to bed the rumors that Farsight would be doing something with Elvira' and Chris: 'Yeah, because we haven't heard a peep from them.'

  • Super bands on flipper rubbers negatively impact gameplay consistency and tournament experience at Brisbane Pinball and Arcade Collective

    high confidence · Jared describes super band performance at tournaments: 'the ball is just wacky... it either goes completely different direction or it just falls dead and doesn't do anything. And there's some people who have stopped going to the tournament because of super bands.'

Notable Quotes

  • “Our release date is imminent. It's coming. There's news coming. I'm just going to say that much, even Mel's talking about it on Twitter now.”

    Chris Freebus @ ~52:30 — Confirms Zen Studios announcement coming soon with cryptic teasing about being under NDA

  • “Hand-drawn art. It's the winner. It's what people want now in pinball. It's what they did back in the 80s and early 90s.”

    Chris Freebus @ ~57:15 — Asserts preference for hand-drawn art direction over Photoshop in modern pinball design

  • “It's less expensive for them to work on say three tables at the same time because one table might be super easy, one table might be super complicated. You never want to bottleneck everything.”

    Jared Morgan @ ~35:45 — Explains Zen's business rationale for bundled table releases vs. monthly single releases

  • “It's going to look a lot nicer when you play it, when you step up to it and have to play it in tournament every single week... That's how you're familiar with it, huh?”

    Jared Morgan @ ~60:10 — Personal frustration with Star Wars pinball at Brisbane tournaments despite visual improvements

  • “There's some people who have stopped going to the tournament because of super bands and all the machines there.”

    Jared Morgan @ ~62:00 — Community impact signal: super bands affecting tournament participation at B-PAC

Entities

Chris FreebuspersonJared MorganpersonZen StudioscompanyStern PinballcompanyFarsight StudioscompanyMelpersonZombie YetipersonDead FlippersonBrisbane Pinball and Arcade Collectiveorganization

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Zen Studios actively engaging with pinball community via Twitter about desired table requests; hosts requesting Monty Python and anime titles

    medium · Mel responded to requests with 'Those are really nice, doable choices' regarding Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell suggestions

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Industry shift back toward hand-drawn comic book art in pinball design vs. Photoshop; hosts praise Stern's new Star Wars approach

    high · Chris: 'Hand-drawn art. It's the winner. It's what people want now in pinball. It's what they did back in the 80s and early 90s.'

  • $

    market_signal: Farsight Studios rumor dispelling: no Elvira pinball in development despite community speculation

    medium · Chris/Jared: 'We can safely put to bed the rumors that Farsight would be doing something with Elvira. Yeah, because we haven't heard a peep from them.'

  • ?

    announcement: Zen Studios imminent announcement about new content roadmap; Mel actively hinting on Twitter; hosts under NDA but can confirm timing

    high · Chris: 'Our release date is imminent. It's coming. There's news coming. I'm just going to say that much, even Mel's talking about it on Twitter now.'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern reissuing Star Wars pinball with completely redesigned hand-drawn comic book art package, first artistic redirection of this magnitude for the title

    high · Jared: 'I've never seen a package like this before produced for Star Wars. It's always been direct movie shots and no animated, like, no cartoon style on it. It is really a first.'

Transcript

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0:00
blockade pinball podcast hello this is the blockade pinball podcast i'm your host chris freebus aka shut your trap joining me as always halfway across the world jared morgan G'day everyone How goes it Jared? It's been a while It has been a little while between drinks, yes Things are going okay?
0:33
Yeah, yeah, you know, things kind of get in the way and most of it is my fault But I'm going to give everybody a hint why that is But first you can stare at Jared for a moment Yeah, stare at me Because, see, I've been busy with work With a big camera Yes, it's with a much bigger camera. So yeah, I'm doing photography at the Disneyland Resorts. And today actually was supposed to be my first official shift, but I cheated and I took somebody else's day two days ago. So I've got one under my belt, but a little later on this evening after the podcast, I get to go into the park and go snappy snappy some pickpicks.
1:15
So it's been going all right, hey? You were telling me that people are lining up to get their photos done with you? Dude, it's crazy. So, like, there are certain areas that are line-up areas that people just know, right? But then there's other times where they just go, hey, go out into the street and just start taking pictures of people. Oh, okay. Yeah, so you're kind of like, oh, okay, sure. So you're wandering around looking for somebody, and you see somebody, and you're like, hey, you want your picture taken? And they're like, yeah, sure, you take their picture, and you turn around, and there's two other people standing there going, can you take our pictures too? And you're like, okay. Sure. I mean why not that's what I'm here for right so then you take those two people's pictures and you turn back around and now there's like five or six people because it's now a thing whatever it is everybody just feels the need wait they're taking pictures it must be something let's do it well let's do it these are pictures we have to have them well and part of that falls into the way that they're doing it now in the park if you have their app if you pay 15 bucks you get every single picture that's snapped of you right so it's kind of like and if you're a season pass holder and you've done it then you get them for every single time you go so it kind of becomes one of those things where it's just like well they're there let's use them yeah that's right they're part of my price that I'm paying so I may as well get my values worth exactly get the values worth but it's been I did two days of kind of general training and then I did two weekends of camera training and it's been fun kind of jumping in there and doing it. So it's different, that's for sure. I bet. Yeah, very different.
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  • ?

    product_concern: Tournament gameplay issues at B-PAC caused by super band flipper rubbers; inconsistent ball response affecting player participation and retention

    high · Jared: 'the ball is just wacky... And there's some people who have stopped going to the tournament because of super bands and all the machines there.'

  • ?

    technology_signal: Zen Pinball transitioning from standard remake tables to 'deluxe tables' based on reimplementation of previous bonus/achievement content

    medium · Jared unclear but suggests: 'what I believe they're moving on to after this, which they're calling deluxe tables, are the uh, those bonus tables that they had made that uh, you unlock by doing achievements.'

    • 3:05
    So before we get started, I needed to give a shout out because he asked for it and he knows he's going to be going to sleep soon. So Andrew Driver in the UK, who is a Twitter follower and make sure you follow us on Twitter and always likes our comments. So, yo, Andrew, what's up? I'm not going to even try and bust out an English accent because my wife says I'm terrible at all accents. Yes. I'll say, hello, Andrew.
    3:29
    Because I'm closer to English than you. You've got some of the proper twang. It's just the different slang, if you will. Yeah, that's right. Yes, indeed. Yeah. um uh so what else has been going on what's going on in your neck of the woods Jared uh well I started a new gig I've got a new job that's right I was kind of like I got an update on LinkedIn and I was like huh what I didn't know you okay yes yeah I uh I finished up at Credit Sense about a week ago now I'm starting at a company called Squiz um so cool name and pretty cool company as well they uh uh they it's been a whirlwind week and um i'm enjoying it very much so far i've landed in a really good team that get the value of docs and uh it's more it's more technical writing right more tech writing yeah and they really they really understand the value of docs and what they bring in that they're actually a part of the product not a add-on to the product so it's good like i'm i'm in the right place um as far as people who understand get what i do which is awesome um and uh part of my farewell gift from um credit sense was lego voltron so i am which which i'm my way through that which i too have and it is a phenomenal lego set no out about it it is it's amazing yeah and it weighs a small ton it really does yeah i've already i've got two more to build and i've left the one arm and the main line left to build which is you know a 291 step model so you know non-trivial just a few uh a few steps that's all yeah just a few yeah so i'm really looking forward to getting that done and i'll be able to join the beast together then. But it's like, the whole package is amazing, as you'll attest to. It comes with full-color booklets about Voltron, the history, and it comes with a separate manual for each line, so you can actually make them up separately in any order you want. The other awesome part about it is it actually assembles like it does in the cartoon.
    5:49
    Combines. That, to me, was... It wasn't just, oh, hey, yeah, we built the model, and it looks like the model, but when you break it apart, it doesn't break apart in the same way that it does in the show. No, there's actually the main lion's leg slips inside the legs, or the lions that form the legs, the same way, and the arms attach. No, it's pretty awesome. It's amazing. Yes, in true... Because it was a Japanese cartoon series, wasn't it, Voltron? I think it was a combination between... Well, Voltron has come in many, many different forms. There was one that was like, I think it was 40 different vehicles that formed Voltron. And then there was the Lions, which is the most famous. But it's also, if you look at it, it's pretty much what Power Rangers got their idea from. Oh, totally, yeah. Basically, they're human Voltron. Yeah. So, yeah, I love it. Like, the legs on the model, they are an engineering feat.
    6:54
    They are just huge, number one. They have very large lines in scale to the arms, but they've got this hinge mechanism for the foot, which just blew my mind at how they engineered it. It's so precise and so lovely. Well, hold on. So here on the Peanut Gallery comment, Jay Willen, who I know is in Scotland, if you don't know Voltron that means you were not an 80s kid and I'm sorry. Correct.
    7:20
    Go Google that. That means you probably also don't know what Robotech is which really makes me sad for you.
    7:28
    Life goals you can catch up with. And actually truth be told if you have Netflix they made a new Voltron cartoon that's on Netflix and I believe that Robotech is also on Netflix. So there you go. You're watching your next weeks or months watching is all lined up especially robotech dude that's like 65 episodes or something like that but what they used to do with like if you take robotech specifically it is a combination of three different completely separate japanese anime but then it was americanized and turned into one story right i didn't know that there you go yep it's the same and it's the exact same thing that happened with um power rangers they took all the monsters and villains that were from the japanese show because they were all in masks they didn't have to worry about weird actors languages or anything right you know the lips don't have to match up and then they cast americans for when their masks are off and then when they run out of footage of whatever that series was then they just found another one of these five costumed people that transform into a robot and it was still Power Rangers but it was a completely different series in Japan as opposed to in America. They just kept it all the same. Merged it all together. Merged. Merged. Yep.
    8:55
    There you go. So it's been a lot of fun building that. A little history lesson folks. And a bit of progress on the pinning as well. I've got the I'm very close to getting the cabinet done. I think I'm going to try a different approach with the side art because what I do is I've masked off all of the spaceships on the side of the force to cabinet and that left me with the job of actually touching those up separately and I think what I gonna do is I might try using contact adhesive as the Frisket film for this because it such a large area and I don't want the stencils to be perfect looking. Right, you actually want a little bit of overspray. A little bit of overspray and a little bit of sort of weirdness going on with the stencils. So I'm going to try masking off with contact, like book contact, the stuff you cover your books with. so that's going to be an interesting experiment. It's going to be cheap because we've got lots of that stuff lying around the house with kids and school and stuff, so it's going to be a good use of that.
    9:57
    Speaking of this kind of... Just talking about the anime and stuff, you saw the Twitter post by Mel asking, hey, what tables do you want, both Zen Original and Williams Pinball, correct? Yeah, I did, and you got a good response to your post. What was your request? So my request was, as always, roller games, NBA Fastbreak, and then Adam's Family. Those are my... And yes, of course, Indiana Jones, but, you know. Obviously, but that's like a given. I think Zen Studios is probably aware that that's probably one that they could do, you know, pretty safely. Yeah, I think that would be everybody's kind of number one. But I definitely would like to see a proper Adam's Family. Like I've always said, It's not necessarily my favorite pin, but it is such a go-to of, I don't know what to play, play Addams Family. I mean, that's just kind of like... There's always a good warm-up. It gives you a bit of taste of everything, doesn't it? Yeah. But then I was like, well, Zen Originals, my first request was let's get Super League back in to the square of things. And specifically, since they can't do any of the European teams that they had previously, my suggestion is that they do twitch broadcasters or podcasters and team blockade gets in on the action we won't even we won't even charge for our likenesses or anything no and team dead flip could go in as well do team dead flip buffalo pinball uh yeah i mean there's any number of people that cover zen um that's right plenty of choices i think it'd be just kind of fun to throw us a bone if you will yeah that's right it would be funny yeah yeah and it would be the only way i'd ever be able to play football so exactly right yeah with a flipper because lord knows my foot my my actual skills with a soccer ball uh suck yeah football different sport here yeah i know i've deliberately called it football because that is its correct name where it is in its country of origin. So there you go. It's a foody ball. Not to be confused with a foosball. Okay, so anyway, that was my main request was that. But then in terms of, hey, Zen, you want to actually create something original,
    12:24
    I've gone over this other times in the podcast, but I would kill for a Monty Python's Holy Grail pinball machine. Really? So just for the very fact that the multiball would be a five-ball, three, sir, three multiball.
    12:44
    Because he can never say three, he can only say five. And so I leave it up to them to determine if it actually is five balls or if it's three balls. But I think that would be hilarious.
    12:57
    Fair enough. I don't know if I could join you in my desire for a multi-python table. Oh, come on. And then you can have a killer rabbit on the field that lurches forward, and that would be the main toy.
    13:08
    And there's the nicer me. Instead of a hedge, you would have the drop targets that you need to knock down. I mean, there's so, so many jokes and stuff that you could do with it.
    13:24
    Yeah, I think you have to be a fan of Monty Python to actually want it, though. but you would become a fan after playing the table that's i've watched it a couple of times i can't get it it's in that era of british humor that i really really struggle with to actually enjoy so it would not be one of the tables that i would be foaming at the mouth to get and that's where you'd be wrong.
    13:52
    There would not be much rejoicing. Yay. But see, it's kind of like how... Well, I was just going to say, it's kind of like how No Good Gophers is essentially Caddyshack. You don't necessarily have to be a fan of Caddyshack, but obviously it helps you get more of the humor. And Medieval Madness has a ton of stuff that's basically ripped straight from Holy Grail. I think. Yeah. My other two table suggestions, though, number one is Cowboy Bebop, but you've got to use the music, because that's just critical and essential, and I would reject it totally if they didn't use at least one piece of music from the anime. And then the other is Ghost in the Shell, which, in all intents and purposes, has become kind of like a Bride of Pinblot, the way you design it.
    14:46
    It could be very interesting. and then Mel's commented back those are really nice doable choices and I was like don't tease me and realistic come on don't even dangle that in front of me and make me foam with a mouth for it so since we're on the topic of Zen hang in there folks our release date is imminent it's coming there's news coming I'm just going to say that much even Mel's talking about it on Twitter now so you know if Mel's talking about it on Twitter it's coming up, it's really close so just hang tight a little bit longer you're almost there and that kind of brought in do you go over to the I don't know if you have or not over to the Pinball FX Discord channel no I don't So, over on the Discord channel, Akos started it, and Jeno is also now running it, or commenting on it. A little more chance of interaction with them there than if you were trying to do it via Digital Pinball Fans' website.
    16:06
    Okay, that's good to know. And, like, if they have news, they'll actually post it there themselves. Zen will. so it's a good idea if you're on discord or download discord and look up the pinball effects three i think it might just be pinball effects uh discord page and anyway there was a one of these discussions that you know again people are groaning and moaning that it's been five months and as people groan and moan then it becomes the question of well why can't they just do it monthly. I would rather have one table per month than wait for table packs.
    16:42
    And, Jared, do we need to really remind people why that is? Well, we can just say, last thing, and we can just say, no.
    16:55
    Let me put it to you this way, folks. Is it cheaper to buy a six-pack of toilet paper, or to buy a jumbo bundle at Costco that's going to last you way longer? exactly it's less expensive for them to package a whole bunch of them than to package little tiny packs yeah and the same applies to pinball it's less expensive for them to work on say three tables at the same time because one table might be super easy one table might be super complicated you never want to bottleneck everything so if that one table is really complicated people that are waiting around for something to come down the process can jump on one of the other two and be working on that stuff and it just frees up it makes the process flow better um i mean that's kind of reason number one for it reason number two is purely the economical thing look how many people would have actually bought safecracker if it had to come out as a single table. Probably no one. Yeah. Really? Yeah. They would have gone, eh, no, I can pass. And instead it makes more sense because of how much Zen paid for the entire license to bundle it with some other ones. Yes, it's forcing you into having to purchase it, but I got news for you.
    18:15
    The bundle price is cheaper per table than what a single table price per would have been, so in essence you're getting the damn thing for free anyway.
    18:25
    Yeah, that's right. So just look at it that way and just continue to ignore Safecracker in your collection.
    18:32
    Yeah, hold on. I'm reading over here. This is Jay coming There a Williams Season 1 pack now that same as the other season packs is 20 less than buying what it is individually
    18:48
    What is it individually? 20% less, yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's not hard to do the math and figure out why it makes sense on that front. The other big thing, and Farsight learned this the hard way, yeah, each time you submit to console, coinage. Yep. Every single time. And they've got a lot of consoles they're supporting. Yeah, and that's why Farsight eventually just went to two times a year releasing, because it's expensive.
    19:19
    So, cut them some slack. You'll get your tables, damn it. Did you get... I haven't gotten anything. I've been checking my email. Apparently they sent out a newsletter. Zen did? Yeah, I didn't get any newsletter.
    19:32
    I feel left out. If anybody got the newsletter, why don't you forward it over to blahblahblockade at gmail.com so we can actually see it.
    19:41
    Because we both of us have subscribed to the Zen Fan Club, etc. So, you know, we should be receiving these, I would think. I would think, unless it's just because we get the behind-the-scenes info and they're like, they don't need this stuff.
    19:55
    Well, maybe, yeah. But still. We'd still like to see it. Yeah, I'd still like to see it. I'd like to know because it was one of those things people started mentioning. Oh, well, they said in the news. I'm like, what? I don't.
    20:07
    Yeah, exactly. Left me fumbling. Yeah. News to us. So, yeah, once the announcement is made, then believe me, we'll talk about it here. Oh, yeah. And once we're allowed to show things, we'll show things also. Yes.
    20:24
    Just probably like all the other Twitch people that have also signed NDAs, but that's okay. well you know they do tell us when we're actually able to broadcast so yes and I want to be first although Deadflip probably will get the honors I think he usually does yeah he will yeah and so should because he's very good at what he does yeah you could say that I'll give him that absolutely yeah no and he actually knows how to play pinball pretty damn well yeah he does Can we type that email address and Jay Willen will forward it to us. Jared, maybe you can take care of that.
    21:05
    In the meantime, we're going to move on to other stuff, which is actual... Oh my God, something happened that we can talk about.
    21:14
    So, Zachariah Pinball. They have released their final remake table, which is Star God. and I had not played the Time Machine remake that just came out, what, last month, I think? So I'm going to actually play that for you guys, both of them, so you can get a feel for it and see what these are because, truth be told, and Jared, you haven't seen either of these, have you? No, I haven't, no. I like them. I like both of them.
    21:49
    These are not the deluxe versions that they're suggesting. No, so this is, yeah, So this isn't the last tables that Zacharia pinball is releasing, but you could call it the last Zacharia tables because what I believe they're moving on to after this, which they're calling deluxe tables are the, uh, those bonus tables that they had made that, uh, you unlock by doing achievements. I think, I think they're remaking those. Oh, Okay. I think. Well, that's interesting. I don't know for sure. They're remaking something that they've done in the past. That's what I'm under the impression of.
    22:33
    Okay. So, it's the last official Zachariah tables, but it's not the last that Zachariah Pinball is, because Zachariah Pinball via Magic Pixel is making. Confusing, huh? That's right. It is a little, but we'll probably work through it. We'll figure it out. All right, so that being said, why don't we just go ahead and jump in and show people. Sorry, all of you listening to the audio version. We'll try and be descriptive, but this is why you should hop on board and get onto Twitch. So let me just kick things over here.
    23:11
    Hey, everyone. We cut out a whole lot of Twitch streaming stuff in this part of the podcast because I didn't really think it was going to translate so well over into the audio version of the podcast. So if you are keen to have a look at what the new games from Zachariah look like, head on over to the Medium post for this podcast. It's in the show notes. And click through to the video, and you'll be able to see us play it and comment on it. All right, back to the show. so yeah go check out uh hop on it download a little uh little zach pinball if you will and uh
    23:55
    enjoy on the new support ones yeah yeah because and and you know every time you do um make mention of zachary you gotta say get the uh got leave license um so yeah totally they do a great job they've got leaped license. They've got that in their DNA. Oh, it would be so amazing. And it's not like Farsight's doing anything. No. Are you guys? Because I think we can safely put to bed the rumors that Farsight would be doing something with Elvira.
    24:25
    Yeah, because we haven't heard a peep from them. Yeah. No. Yeah. I have no idea what they're doing. It's like whatever table they were working on that had female hair on it, I don't think it was Elvira. no pretty sure it wasn't yeah although you never know they might go oh I'm surprised here it comes the Stern Pinball arcade and we completely redone Stern Pinball arcade to make it not suck who knows hey did you happen to see the Star Wars redo that Stern yeah it makes the table look better yeah it doesn't improve It doesn't improve the table, it just makes it look better. But it makes it look better. Yes, because for those that aren't aware, Stern is reissuing Star Wars, but now with comic book art. And it's what they should have done all along. Absolutely. Not the Photoshop dodge job that they did on the first table. Hand-drawn art for the win, folks. Hand-drawn art.
    25:30
    It's the winner. It's what people want now in pinball. It's what they did back in the 80s and early 90s. and there wasn't a lot of Photoshopping. It's only in the 2000s when that became really expensive and pinball was dying that they went, oh, you know, Photoshopping's fine. Well, yeah, you can pretty much blame Sega pinball for the truly, truly horrible Photoshop jobs. Yes, they were really slapped on there.
    25:55
    But yeah, this art package they've got on the new tables looks really nice, even down to the point where the font and everything is Comic Sans. No, it's not Comic Sans, according to somebody on Twitter. Oh, dear. They identified it as not Comic Sans. I forget what they identified it as. So, no, we don't get to make fun of them for doing that. Well, see, I think I wouldn't have made fun because Comic Sans, that is an appropriate place to use Comic Sans in a comic. And that's the only appropriate place to use Comic Sans for the record if you're a technical writer. Not on an essay? Not on a term paper? What? No, no. No, definitely not. And definitely not in product documentation. although one one one april fools i would love to just switch the front package out on and tie a dock site and just use comic sans and just make people go what i still laugh that uh avatar had to change their font for these newer movies when they come out because they use the font papyrus and papyrus was not popular at all back then uh but it senses ubiquitous across everywhere and so they're like yeah we need to create our own font that's us because papyrus was like the font du jour of all these websites every single website using papyrus it was not a unique identifier at all dude i've used papyrus many a time myself so you know yeah exactly but yeah i love the package i love the fact that yeah and what i was getting to with the use of comic sans is that even on the little in-game monitor little lcd they've even got like the comic sans text below it that was originally there but just in like block text in Comic Sans now it's just really nicely integrated the way they've done it and it's good to see another artist that is that's not Zombie Yeti I was just going to say not Zombie Yeti although he does just a phenomenal job on art it's great to actually see another artist getting a go to do this style of not Photoshop art because Zombie Yeti really led the pack for a long time with that well and then it would be nice if they could you know if they can get in there with this that maybe Jersey Jack will follow suit and go this route. I mean, they obviously had to do Dialed In that way, but even Dialed In basically looks like SimCity.
    28:13
    It does, yeah. But, I mean, that's maybe the look they were absolutely going for. Right. But it's certainly not Funhaus.
    28:22
    No, it's definitely not, no. so yeah look i i dig it i like the art package i know that no one's going no one's going to buy one of these that already has a star wars although no probably not actually people will probably sell their star wars and then buy this one new because they're nuts uh and i've already seen those people post where they're like hey do you want my star wars home use only uh totally tricked out i'll sell it so that I can get this instead. Yeah. I don't blame you. If you're a real fan of Star Wars this is a complete... I've never seen a package like this before produced for Star Wars. It's always been direct movie shots and no animated like no cartoon style on it. It is really a first. Well, if you went back to the Data East table for... That's technically a bit sort of... Yeah, you could say that was sort of... It was definitely hand-drawn. That's for sure. Yes. It was definitely hand-drawn. But not in this real comic style, like this sort of very different art package.
    29:30
    But I like it either way. I think it looks good. It won't make the game any better for me. No, no. Everyone loves it. Nothing is going to do that. It's got that action button thing that locks the multipliers, which I really couldn't give two stuffs about. But look, it's going to look a lot nicer when you play it, when you step up to it and have to play it in tournament every single week.
    29:53
    I'm talking to you, Brisbane Pinball Club. That's how you're familiar with it, huh? Oh, yes, yes. I've grown to hate it.
    30:06
    And the thing that with Netherworld, the thing they do with their pinballs, they put super bands on everything. So it's just, the ball is just wacky. Like, it comes off flippers with super bands on. it either goes completely different direction because it like basically it's like a super grippy tire or it just falls dead and doesn't do anything it's it makes it so very well play okay yeah i don't like there's some people who have stopped going to the tournament because of super bands and all the machines there so what you're saying is i shouldn't buy super bands for my eight ball deluxe maybe you could use super bands for slingshots and things that get a little wear but just go with original flipper rubbers just for the flippers and i'm probably probably going to do the same with the three i'm restoring i will probably do white super band style um rubbers simply because they they wear a lot longer like they don't they don't powder and they don't go dodgy so you'll get a lot more wear out of them but on the rubbers on the flippers where that's your contact with the ball i just want that original feel. I'm happy to buy original rubbers for that area of the playfield. I hear you.
    31:16
    Alright. Do we have anything else that is pinball related, Jared? I don't think so. One thing I will say as a side note to my renovations at home for the pinball machines, I'm having a hard time working out how to juggle the machines around in the area that I have.
    31:40
    And I'm working out ways of trying to put things on dollies and have them movable. It's very much like one of those sliding tile puzzles. You have to sort of work out what bits you're going to do first and then have a plan lined up about what other bits you're going to do so you have room to store everything while you're doing it.
    32:01
    It's taking some of the shine away from doing it, but it's still okay. Do you have the other two tables up on legs? no they're all well they've only got one other table in the garage because it's literally i only have room for one other table um so i've got two tables on premises um and they're on their backs at the moment okay yeah so that does make it i was because what i was going to say um i just went to our cheapo hardware store called harbor freight and bought little um caster wheels that They're three caster wheels, and they've got just a little tiny pot in them. I bought four of those. I put them under the legs of my machine, and then I can roll it around wherever I need to and pop a buck off because I can't afford nor do I need a pinball dolly.
    32:48
    Yeah, I've got to do exactly the same thing. I've got these little things that are like a metal sort of assembly thing, and they've got three little caster wheels on them. But the reason why I chose these over a little wooden platform is that they've got a little notch in them, so you can put a bolt through them and that should actually stop the little rolly things from rolling around too much. But yeah, I'm going to do exactly the same thing. It's going to be a lot easier to work on if it's on wheels. You can just slide it back in, tuck it out of the way and it's going to be a lot easier.
    33:21
    Yeah. Okay, so next week we will plan on podcasting again next Saturday. hopefully, I don't know. I honestly can't tell you when we'll be able to actually talk about anything because we haven't gotten the heads up.
    33:44
    However, if for some reason, which would be probably my fault again, we don't podcast, we'll do everything on our power to stay up to date so that if anything drops midweek or whatever, that we'll try and pop on and... Even do a quick one. Yeah. so we'll try and keep you in the loop unless it like is obvious that it exploded everywhere and there's no need for us to keep you in the loop in which case we'll just save it for us crowing about how awesome things are yeah that's going to be it when we can actually clarify exactly what the awesome is it's awesome it is it's full of awesome and much win okay so this is the part of the show where we say, hey, why don't you follow us on Twitter? It's, oh, right there. And, uh, that's the blockade. And while you're at it, then you can go ahead and, uh, follow, watch this, folks. Watch closely. Here it goes. I think I'm going to hit the right button. Oh, there was that. Look at that. And then watch, I go over to Jared and I go, oh, there's his. See, look at that.
    34:55
    Those are our Twitter handles. Follow us. Enjoy. I'm right this way. yeah yeah i know you gotta move your head backwards from what you're thinking jared um your image and uh be sure you go over to the website which is blockadepinball.com slash earth yeah slash episodes um there's where you can download all the past previous episodes but those of you watching you should head over to youtube and follow our youtube channel blockade pinball and that's where you'll also find a myriad of videos tons of videos uh to be able to watch past episodes just because sometimes it's fun to mock and laugh that's right it's always fun to mock and laugh yes all right we love it so do it well until then i just want to say thanks for putting up with us and our dodgy schedule uh thank you for everybody that uh obviously my weekly uh weekday, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, playing has severely dropped off, and that's, again, thanks to the mouse.
    36:01
    Not a bad thing, though. Work is important. I'd much rather you be gamefully employed than sitting at home playing video games, Chris. Well, especially since the video games, nobody ever bothered tipping me, and I thought that that would eventually happen. That's not going to earn them money. No. No, I guess you kind of have to have thousands of people watching you instead of just three.
    36:27
    Unless they're very generous, those three watches, you're not going to have success. I was happy just to have people sitting there viewing and commenting. That helps. It's what keeps me, when I have the chance, when I can do it, I will certainly jump on and do it some more. I've also been competing with my son needing a computer to do homework.
    36:47
    Oh, yeah. Homework. You've got to do that. unfortunately he reached that age where everything is on the computer now and we only have the one so you've got to do it you've got to give him the access that's right so that being said y'all know the schedule, y'all know what's happening and we'll do it again thank you so much, Jared, until then what's happening next week? there'll be definitely some stuff and probably some things I like it, alright folks, bye bye see ya
    37:20
    Thank you.