SDTM Episode 92: The Addams Family Pinball Machine Review

Straight Down the Middle·video·33m 20s·analyzed·May 19, 2019

Analysis

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TL;DR

SDTM reviews Addams Family (1992): legendary design hampered by repetitive code and high price point.

Summary

Straight Down the Middle hosts Greg Bone and Zach Sharpe review the classic 1992 Williams Addams Family pinball machine designed by Pat Lawlor, one of the highest-produced pinball games ever (20,270 units). The hosts praise its innovative toys, magnets, modes, and overall design while critiquing its code structure and expressing that it wears thin over time, ultimately landing it a B+ cumulative score despite its legendary status in the hobby.

Key Claims

Addams Family sold 20,270 units, making it one of the highest-produced pinball machines in history
high confidence · Hosts cite this figure when discussing the game's production volume and market saturation
The game was designed by Pat Lawlor and released by Bally/Williams in 1992
high confidence · Stated directly in the review; credited as one of Lawlor's major works
Addams Family code is based on repeating the ramp-to-mode pattern, which becomes monotonous ('ramp, mode, ramp mode')
high confidence · Greg explicitly critiques the code structure, arguing even in 1992 this didn't have to be done
People tend to sell Addams Family after owning it because the gameplay becomes predictable despite the high price point ($6,000-$7,000)
medium confidence · Both hosts mention this pattern and the tension between price and long-term enjoyment; Zach says it's true but attributes it partly to price pressure
The game features some of the best use of magnets in pinball history, with the magnet mechanism that stops and throws the ball remaining engaging long-term
medium confidence · Greg emphasizes the magnet feature as the one element that doesn't get old, and notes this keeps the game interesting for him

Notable Quotes

“20,270 of these suckers that is absolutely insane could you imagine that today... that's probably more than what's sold like a beer hiccup in City Hall all year long from Stern”
Host (Zach or Greg)@ 2:08 — Illustrates the unprecedented production volume of Addams Family compared to modern Stern output
“ramp to get a mode set start the mode ramp even during a frickin mode to get the next mode set ramp mode ramp mode... that's why I said B- instead of an A-”
Greg Bone@ 18:06 — Core critique of the game's code structure; explains the B- rating for rules and code
“people get rid of because the price that you're putting into it versus what you're getting at it... the code is the only letdown of the game that keeps it from being like a stellar A Plus game”
Greg Bone@ 16:20 — Summarizes the paradox of Addams Family: legendary in components but limited by code repetitiveness
“think about what was prior to 1992 you find me a more loaded game it's not there... I am at an A+ [on toys and innovation]”
Zach Sharpe@ 19:27 — Defends Addams Family's toy design as unparalleled for its era
“it has the funnest beginning of any game like owning that to enjoy that is higher than most any other machine ever on the market but man it wears out it just wear thin really quick”
Zach Sharpe@ 28:47 — Captures the dual nature of the game: extraordinary initial appeal but declining long-term engagement
“if it was a $3,500 game I'd drive The Shadow... The Shadow doesn't really wear out... because getting that Wizard modes hard”

Entities

Pat Lawlorperson Addams FamilygameChris GreinerpersonJohn YaconopersonGreg Boneperson Zach Sharpeperson Williamscompany The Shadowgame

Signals

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design_philosophy: Playfield artwork by John Yacono is perceived as minimalist/understated despite strong backglass, creating visual imbalance; backglass composition praised as 'beautiful' but playfield lacks density compared to other Lawlor designs
medium · Greg gives art a B+ and specifically critiques playfield as 'weird' and 'not a lot to it'; notes backglass is beautiful but composition is secondary to translite design
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code_update: Addams Family's repetitive ramp-mode-ramp-mode code pattern, while foundational for mode-based pinball, is now recognized as a design limitation even by 1992 standards and contributes to gameplay fatigue
high · Greg explicitly critiques the code for being 'rinse and repeat' and argues this didn't have to be done even in 1992; notes this is the only letdown keeping it from A+ rating
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gameplay_signal: Addams Family exhibits a documented pattern where initial ownership excitement and engagement ('funnest beginning of any game') rapidly declines once strategic patterns become known, leading to predictable gameplay within weeks
high · Both hosts independently note the game 'wears out' and 'wears thin really quick'; Zach references this as true for everyone who has owned the game
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design_innovation: Addams Family's toy and magnet design (ball stop-and-throw mechanism, Thing flipper, seance knocker) remains the gold standard for mechanical innovation and rarely wears out as a long-term engagement driver
high · Zach rates toys/innovation A+ and states the magnet mechanic never gets old; Greg agrees Addams Family is 'loaded' with toys unprecedented before 1992
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Topics

Game design and layout evaluationprimaryToys and mechanical innovation in pinballprimaryCode structure and rule set designprimaryPricing and long-term ownership valueprimaryArtwork, backglass, and theme aestheticssecondaryMusic composition and callout quality in pinballsecondaryComparison of classic vs. modern pinball machinessecondaryCommunity engagement and content creator supportmentioned

Sentiment

mixed(0.55)— Hosts express reverence for Addams Family's historical significance, innovation, and initial play experience but express frustration with its code repetitiveness, price point, and tendency to wear out long-term. Respect for the game's legacy is tempered by practical ownership reservations.

Transcript

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[Music] the wait is over a revolution in an uneasy lighting for your pinball is finally here fully customizable full spectrum lighting from pin stadium lights order yours now at a stadium calm let's kick this [ __ ] the great I've got five words that will describe your family you in here creepy kooky mysterious spooky and kooky that was super solid I did not think you were gonna make five words of it bone fam I could've out that kooky spooky and now we are reviewing a game that's why I'm the lead here baby that's why you go to sleep at 8:30 that's why I stay up it's very true energized charges they like you being the lead I don't like the pressure Lee you're very good at lead you're not the funny likable one I'm good at that you're good at leading stuff I can't do it we each have our place okay fair enough we're gonna review a tissue in Gomez you're Morticia I'll take whatever she's hot okay no we're gonna review Bally's Addams Family pin one of the the highest produced pinball machines one the most fantastic and rememberable memorable rememberable memorable pinball machine model doesn't have its flaws 20,000 270 of these suckers that is absolutely insane could you imagine that today that's prob it would be everywhere that's probably more than what's sold like a beer hiccup City Hall all year long from Stern yeah honestly and that one pen yeah like that's nuts to think back about that I hate the old machines yes and it held up it has held up yeah and you know what that was sort of towards that I won't say the end but pinball was that's a big it wasn't the strongest at that point per se I don't know man I think I think early nineties it was hitting pretty good it wasn't good - yeah yeah keep him hit it beat them dropped really quick I guess yeah honestly your Chelsea was described describing you that pitch drops real quick 8:30 so we're sort of what marriage does peaks in Rob's family was designed by Pat Lawler the legendary Pat Lawler one of his a seem proud of it you gonna be proud of it the man seems a little suckers that son of a [ __ ] sucked I don't know why I bought it software by Larry d'amour Mike Boon the sound by Chris Greiner in artwork by John Yao see I know yeah see but nobody else okay so twenty thousand-plus let's show the people why this pin was so sought-after it's so loved and beloved let's do an overview one of Le Toux greats the Adams family back in the early 90s by Pat Lawler we'll do a quick overview of this beautiful game this particular example is really nice at some points had a new play field installed on it so I don't see a lot of scooped where one of the things to look at when you're buying a used Adams family is the mansion you'll see a lot of where in and around the inserts on this mansion especially right here on the sills look for that also look on Adams family when you're buying used scoop wear this is virtually there's none there a lot of times there be a cliffy that covers it up a metal protector and under that metal protective there's usually a lot of where you can also look in the shooter Lane oh she's clean all right so the Adams family the purpose and the point of this game is to get through this mansion the Addams mentioned you'll see different awards like 3 million 6 million 9 million and different modes graveyard max quick multiball Fester's tunnel hunt raise the dead thing you can light extra ball seance that's a magnet mode cousin it and mamushka in the question mark so you try and get all of those lit up to get one of those modes started you hit the scoop whenever the light is on to get that qualified you hit the sinner ramp up and around and back to right flipper that's essentially it each mode does a little something different like the mamushka you're trying to hit the pop bumpers seances uh there's three magnets under here Bam Bam Bam and they'll make the balls go every which way let's go left to right here you get your Pat Lawler to inlanes one out lane one in lane one out Lane you've got a little flipper here this can be controlled by the computer as well that will shoot the ball you only have to flip it and shoot it into the graveyard or not the graveyard yeah that's great got a passageway here you can trickle through the pops there are five pops on this game so we can trickle through the pumps for that flipper that's a manual flipper unless thing is activated you've got stand up targets right here you advance your X if you can go through the pops look at that check it out oh what a shot this is grandpa's electric chair right here scoop that's an orbit that goes all the way around and down here while we're down here we might as well stick down here we don't want to forget the inlanes the inlanes are responsible for lighting the thing flips this automatic flipper so if you if that's lit BAM you go up the ramp it's gonna feed it back down here you don't touch nothing Cobb boom it's gonna go right into the graveyard you can also like to bear Takes with it your special is the left out Lane you know special on the right out Lane as well and that's gonna light your advance ex right there this default this game does not have a bowl saver so keep that in mind you've got a scoop right here as well stand up targets for millions as well as the graveyard hit it in there it'll shoot out right there you've got stand up targets right here for cousin it you've got your center ramp Center ramp is unique because it comes up and it's got a diverter right here you can go to the right flipper safely or it'll drop it off right here to your upper left flipper to the left of that ramp is always just called the fing ramp a little ramp right here this is responsible for multi Bowl as well as an extra bolt that will come back here see that scoop and once in that scoop thing will come out of here I just kind of freaky he'll come out of there grab the ball and take it to his chambers you've got the Train shot right here with the this upper right flipper that Pat Lawler loves to utilize a lot of that you get the train shot for jackpots point one and then come back down oftentimes if it's set up correctly it'll hit that it'll come back down and go right into your graveyard here you get the side ramp that's so satisfying to hit it's responsible for a super jackpot in this game if you want to see this game blow up hit that super jackpot you can also light the star with it a really unique mode is seance where the multi balls are going on and when you hit it up this side ramp it will knock the nockerl activates that's really cool you've got the bookcase right here the bookcase is blocking that scoop right so to open the bookcase for shot to the vault which is right there that's the vault you have to spell greed one two three four five this thing will turn and it will open up a shot to the vault also have a right orbit fish that's this shot right here that's going to come and bring it back into the Pops one of the most satisfying shot combos in this game is through the pop bumpers because it is not easy it's going to come fast up a flipper flip it BAM up the ramp mmm juicy that's your typical shot layout on the Addams Family it's a classic for a reason it's one of the greats for a reason a whole hell of a lot of fun everybody enjoys it The Addams Family so you get it Greg you see why Addams family still holds true today I don't know oh that's interesting what's going to it then let's talk first about as we do typically on straight down the middle reviews art let's start with art so we've got some John Youssi art he's legendary John now see where were you at on heart you have you met higher than me it's a solid art package ah I guess so I'm gonna see Plus ouch and I'll tell you why yes he's telling me because I'm gonna be yes I fell into that really weird spot of where the back glass is nice but the composition is very fantastic the side art of the cabinet is very appeasing see that's simple on a piece they come down really yeah because I label the playfield is weird like just the logo I feel like just the local lot I don't really want a standard listing again I but I don't like the playfield there's not a lot to it now Fester at the bottom by the flippers it is gorge not a lot going on I bite in his mouth that's like a mural versus a you know I think that because well I think the line art is totally 9 is John you now see the color saturation czar perfect it is the inside of that it's better than 90 staircases bookshelves like it I think I just think it's solid is a B it's a solid B it's a solid it's a solid thing it's not it's not packed it's not overwhelming it's solid and I wonder if I'm trying to think right now I just love that bad glass it's like freaking beautiful I love that and what I love about it I translate yessuh translate it's unfortunate CPR actually CPR makes a mere bag glass now for all lightning smeared gotta get that yeah yeah please show what the hell CPR come on CPR it was free back so much some eye shadow but no I like it just because it doesn't have big titles on the translife yeah it's the family yes a mansion and that's what the games all about very much so art wise sort of like this beautiful lost world nothing no titles are there mr. beautiful artwork all right I met Abby your to see Plus on art shot some layout hmm Wow we're the same people we are the same where identical because you look at the wrong thing that's me we're identical I know I do this with this guy alright dinickel yeah we're both a haze tell the people what you love so much a Greg that's some of the greatest ratings in a Johnson layout so you can get it's a 4.0 it just kind of feels good like first I like the the bookcase shot okay hit the bookcase no I like you okay so that's really neat the thing shot on a psychic the skill shot because if you fail the skill shot like it's not like oh you just get multiple attempts goes with a swamp yes you're done like you just keep going whitewater it exactly the ramps are fairly neat well there's one ramp and into verts yeah and ramp diverts one layer diverts the other yes and then when you five pop bumpers that you wouldn't think you wouldn't think there's five in there no doesn't feel like you know it does there they like five pop bumpers there in the Train shot you to the mini flipper need a mini flipper ticket back you do get two ramps you get the side ramp shot they go the same spot though and yes it does go this inner spot but even through the pops is terrible your Uncle Fester shot now through the collar bone to there's a pop says hey but you want to say out pops you don't want to be in the press get in the pops okay I like it's solid it is a solid fun shooter feels like the ball stays on the ground it's smooth it's one pat low best design it's a lot of that to me to most of the shots most fill up the middle it's a lot up the middle like long shots there's like it's kind of odd because there's like you mean scoop let's say it's a close shot it's a lot of really close stuff and in far shots okay don't you think it's not a lot of that fan where it's just in the middle yeah you're right it's it's a back or front and you don't really have that in between it kind of similarly in whirlwind whirlwind by Pat Lawler yeah same kind of thing get your side flipper or your side ramp it because like most people down there yes yes this is very much and he said it in the in the recent Wonka documentary short yes right he said five five lanes at the bottom yes at Lawler yes so there's nothing to say a lot of a lot of shots a lot of Jurassic Park I think Jurassic Park mimicked itself who did Jurassic Park layout I can't remember you know why you can't remember because it's Pat Lawler's layout that one I don't like that Lawler I think it's always like Metallica and Guardians like I can't world I'm in Jurassic Park er like it just doesn't they don't feel the same okay they are sort of I could yeah but they're very pinball plagiarism is what they've been called but I think you know I got away from that fan it was different like I think Addams Family for the time it was a like a lot of Pat scams like fathers don't everything it was different get a lot of things to shoot on that side flipper - you got the it shot you got the ramp you get the train shot it's you know what my favorite shot is sorry to interrupt you my favorite shot I think in the game it's a tight little shot that you can only hit from the right flipper it's the thing it's like a little bitty metal ramp you you start multiball and stuff it's a little metal rim right in the middle of the game oh yes and then it trickles down yes I really like this show it's my thing everything feels solid yeah everything feel solid we raise rules and code so this is gonna be tough great because rules and code we have to keep in mind 1999 yeah third is 92 99 92 or 93 92 this was one of the first names of with modes yes so we could sit here and [ __ ] on the modes if we want yes but at that time this wasn't really being done lights camera action did it but it you're touring the different rooms of the mansion and each of the windows represents a mode or you ask that you have to complete you also have a multiball in there yes so you try to tour the mansion at the end of the but what do you think about the code I went with a B and M hmm I think that honestly the code is the only letdown of the game that keeps it from being like a stellar a Plus game it is it's a highly sought after game it's an expensive game people love it but at the very same time mark my words if you talk to anyone who's owned this game you know they get rid of it because it gets old very fast a lot of people keep it but I think people get rid of because of the price that you're putting into it versus what you're getting at it yes okay yes good because most people said hey it just wore thin really quick I liked it wasn't it spider-man I always feel the same as there is one of those pins that is the ultimate collection it is a Grail like it's reached that level wildlife so Adams family it has but if you also have to do with the amount produced and people playing it when they were a kid or younger I think there's a lot of a nostalgic feel plus again horror themes will you always feel like oh yeah well yes so again it's a toys innovation I think that's another reason why people keep it so much going on at 9 up to but if we're talking rules in code I'm gonna be - it's a little harsh because it would look the code it was the foundation of the code is fantastic the moments in the code all start of that multiball showtime the mag night sounded matter whoa that's toys in their vision yeah see the code is good here's the problem here's what I'm gonna be - instead of an A - so really there it's good there's no reason even in 1992 with modes you reset the mode starts after one shot to the ramp its rinse and repeat it's the definition of rinse and repeat yeah ramp to get a mode set start the mode ramp even during a frickin mode to get the next mode set ramp mode ramp moat you're getting through that cat that man sure yeah so that's why I said to be - because I don't think that even in 92 that had to be done yeah swish that up but I think that they were going with it yep yeah yeah yeah one of the coolest things about the code that might just be in the collector's edition ROM but at the end of the game it goes done in it done in it done that then he goes BAM done done but then your ball shoots out every once why it's random it goes done it done it done that and it programs your flippers go click click just like that yeah that's awesome that is awesome yeah right click seen that before it's yeah it doesn't happen all the time but click click rules and Kodama be my sure to be toys and innovation in my opinion this is where the Addams Family shine oddly close we were on these first ones well they're ranked the same you're in an A on toys and innovation I am at an A+ section when it comes to toys and innovation in the Adams Facebook case prior to this think about what was prior to 1992 you find me a more loaded game it's not there no it is there the ok bookcase okay sting a king hand comes out of the playfield not to tickle your bowl you know to grab the ball and take it away it goes back into a box yeah and it can even bring it back out yeah right you got that - freeze I love when you hit that ramp in Europe that it programmed the knocker knocker shot and knock three times for seance yes you got that you've got the thing flip the thing flip is a flipper that automatically is programmed to hit it into a swamp by itself that's an unbelievable toy you've got flashers in the cloud topper ddddd dare I say the best use of magnets in a pinball machine ever very true ever you can stop the ball mitt play field and it throws right back up all the way back up the ramp you to it will go down stop go back up stop and come back down again throw down your flippers well I miss it I mean I'm just glad to see you're an ICU 92 this is one of the greatest pins ever made see you Susie a stick about a game for awhile I think right now but is because I got one in on oh no we picked one up picked one up it's a phenomenal you guys seen it in the in the overview it's just phenomenal condition and it takes me back to 92 when I thought to myself holy [ __ ] if I was used to playing some system 11 and stuff if I was used to playing blows you away and I got to this thing and I saw that ball stop play field and throw back yeah curtain it's also a game that I want to own it's just the price point is such a pillar it's so they're only they're going out man yeah and because it is a beautiful game all the way over well get in that but it's I'm gonna a plus I just think it's loaded yeah toys innovation try to think it feels like I'm missing a toy I know there feels like there's more over there to the left I don't know it's like not that way I think I think you fill up Uncle Fester even though it's just a scoop I think with him like I think you have the chair and then the aftermarket chair here there yeah but I feel like that you sort of feel like that that's a toy even though it's not it's just a scoop it's still taught that that that chair is a toy it's a molded toy that's how we rank Stern's not yeah that's a toy a plus furniture music and call up and you thought we're gonna go downhill we're not no I'm still nay it's like you said that multiball Perelman dress black nickel a candy chrome it powder-coated the possibilities are endless at pinball plating calm your pinball machine deserves the best at comet pinball you'll find the best variety of LED products with the best quality LEDs and most importantly at the best price your collection is begging for an upgrade order yours now at comet pinball comm check out pin graphics for the latest and greatest in pinball enhancements power blades blade skins pin blades and even more visit ping graphics comm now to see what's available for your pinball machine yeah that's fantastic I mean even the Mushka yes every one of the most merriday pool like the dirty pool called mooska was moosh wa was one of the first roll out like I remember when I started in the pinball like that just wowed me it felt so good hearing I loved it and she's like what she said gomez yeah and you felt like you did something you didn't know what you were doing like but you played it in your filling and then at the end of the game near near near near yeah honestly some probably the best call-outs in pinball yeah and the music like you gotta think about like it is solid it is it is still like I said when that multiball starts up like like a bud Somerville but yeah but had one and buds his sound or oh dude yeah show time he was at a show and it was so loud and so clear but I was just like yeah it's awesome yeah yes many was a little impressed like he was like he was just like Schmidt he loves that game ah he loves that game so I could here's what I could do my only critique on music and call outs and I couldn't I couldn't lower it because of it at that time the sound was not great it's oh it's just because of lot of stuff it's just not chewiness and they didn't have to do that because I think I think dad at least at that time was using stereo yeah yeah so they didn't have to but that's more of a Bali issue none Adams finisher but boy Chris greener he was the king of music back in the 90s and he was insane insane theme those family you like this they went bad yeah I went a - okay the I think most people would agree with you do you guys agree a - theme as family and I'll tell you why creeping kooky I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you please do they're funny but unlike Munsters okay there's a sexiness to it oh okay do you not think like like mortician gomez there was a this oh there was a little yeah and they always yet they were always in they were in each other always so there was a sexiness mixed with the funny words and it was a different kind of funny it was like not like a wholesome family yes musters is more of a slapstick goofy funny this was like like we're not really in the picture you can picture Gomez getting it more than you can't Herman yeah but not only it was yes it wasn't a goopy it wasn't goofy funny Gomez slick it was a slick slick it was just a witty funny what a witty funny yeah I can and and that's what I liked about that almost an underhanded we had to get things and the just the odd [ __ ] they did was what made it yeah cousin it good character yeah and they were they were the odd fan I actually enjoyed that his family films they were good I liked him with uh what's-her-name Christina Ricci Christina Ricci was Wednesday know I don't know if that kid everyone anywhere and and Lloyd Christopher Lloyd mr. Lloyd made the grave s was fester fantastic that's what the limb place no no off you wouldn't set it I know but very esteemed but that's what the pinball machine is based who is Gomez Rin Rin Rin rat will look uh does hang in there all right so theme you're in a - you like the theme I'm gonna C+ ouch I know so I didn't didn't do anything for me Greg I don't care about the Addams Family I don't know C+ I don't care about Angelica Houston Angelica Houston razmik and rah rah rah yeah Roger so I just the theme it's not a dream theme of mine I think it's a good theme for pinball there was before my time I would rather I like the monsters theme better honestly movie stop recording hello so themes to see blessed enjoyability [Music] what the hell what do you want me to do Greg okay you're in a b-plus on enjoyability you just 1992 and you're still loving this game I did I still enjoy a plus I play it every time if I see it on location I play it every time I wound it I would - the only thing keeps me from this price point because it's like what we talked about about people will sell it just because it gets a little old because you can run through the mansion so fast it just as well at the price point you want to free up that money you're sitting as six $7000 ABS family in a new store and comes out and you're like I love Lethal Weapon 3 I like it a lot but the thing that keeps it here the most is its price there's no reason favorite of the price price exactly enjoyability for me it's such a subjective term it's do you enjoy it do you have fun playing it they answer to that yes okay I love playing it like when I got it this last time flipping out well we got that yeah I've played the snot out of that game okay and I think to myself when I'm playing this is the ultimate pinball package it's the ultimate pinball package it shoots good it looks good it sounds good it is so much fun there's so many gimmicks and everything I love and enjoy this game this will never leave until you put 30 more plays on it yeah and then it turns into a see that's where I'm at it once you know the the ramp scoop you can't not know it and I'm stuck so you just feel like I'm just sitting yeah I can't do it so yeah see that I think it's where a lot of you it has the funnest beginning of any game like owning that I bet the ratio of owning that to enjoying that is higher than most any other machine ever on the market but main it wears out it just that's what I said about everybody that's owned it the only thing about that game that doesn't get old for me is the magnet use but if it was a four thousand if it was a $3,500 game I Drive shadow oh yeah I would - I won't lie about that it's yeah but I'm saying if you could I mean there's always a game I'd like to own but more than that that's my point that's why I'm gonna see though because no I'm not saying other than that game there's always just one game it's like a beautiful woman I'm saying you say $3,500 I hear shadow I Drive shadow hmm so the price doesn't it's not the price for me I'd be mixed I really like shadow but I like the theme of is airing it out yeah you don't really wear out shadow no because getting that wizard modes hard and completing the wizard modes hard I don't know it just gets a little stale for me I hate that about it because this is this is almost ultimate package cumulative grade as you guys remember we have these all waited so it's not even distribution art does not is not worth as much as I was gonna say theme but they are art is not worth as much as enjoy ability or shots and layout musics not worth as much as so we're we have them waged you guys see the weighted distribution there if not art 10% shots and layout 20% rules in code 20% toys and innovation 10% be using call-outs 5% theme those were 10% for us and enjoy ability as an important one worth 20% cumulative scores you my friend are at a B+ you really like this game a 3.43 congratulations you should own this game I would just can't afford it won't you buy the one that we've got it's already sold but still you'd like it so big move you'd really I just knew you wouldn't buy he knows what I'll buy 100 exactly that's exactly I'm gonna be still 3.02 it's hanging on there's a B it's good though in anyways it's I think you're fair in many ways it should be higher many ways it should be lower Oh should be lower I think you could be a little higher but I think that you're solid I think it's fair I think if we looked at our list of games oh I would rather I would rather own long-term minigames below it at a 3.0 to be it's very true man Adams family don't go to bed yet Craig what do these people need to do how do they support us like us on Facebook say you know what these guys they work their ass off they're fun Zach works his ass off you know what what do they need to do support us it's part you tell them by t-shirt we got t-shirts coming out with there's any t-shirt coming out soon they're gonna be coming at some point okay follow us on facebook follow us on Facebook Twitter account which Chuck work don't check out our good buddy Kerry Hardy who's doing video service law tech stuff working ok keep them curious yeah crisis boy way different Texas what else they need to do is there anything else subscribe on Facebook it's a donator do you want to thank give us donation right yeah if you haven't give us a donation think about it yeah we'd like that yeah we need some new equipment I know what now we have a couple pieces of equipment yeah we did we do little things behind but but you know thanks you guys again yeah always with t-shirt sales and everything like our block a video that was what kind of gave us the equipment to help quality was push that Wonka billet video to where it was in the promo video that we did for JJ apiece and they're only gonna get better area we can have the help to get there hisses the fun sitting out there always the thanks for supporting us remember if you're ready to buy a pinball machine you go to one place on one place only flipping out pitbull Stern jjp Chicago gaming company American pinball p3 multi morphic they're about this monkey and everybody that's spooky every I don't know maybe by the time we talk here that's changed you never know I'm stair climbing handtruck see you guys [Music] oh my gosh look at that hit the motherlode check it out whoo - 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