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PNP Ep. 556- Joe Ciaravino Previews The PiNbALL DeGENeRatE Awards SHow

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Feb 17, 2024
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TL;DR

Joe Ciaravino previews the third annual Pinball Degenerates Awards Show, Feb 18 noon EST on Facebook.

Summary

Joe Ciaravino previews the third annual Pinball Degenerates Awards Show, scheduled for Sunday, February 18th at noon EST on Facebook Live. The show celebrates the Pinball Degenerates community group (6+ years old, 1000+ members) through humorous awards across 17 categories, featuring live comedy, trivia giveaways, and charity donations to three organizations. Key contested categories include Most Degenerate Pinball Couple, Most Degenerate Pinball Pet, and Most Degenerate Pin Injury.

Key Claims

  • The Pinball Degenerates group was started 6.5 years ago and now has over 1,000 members

    high confidence · Joe states 'I started this group about six and a half years ago' and 'after we hit 1,000 members, I wanted to reward everybody'

  • The third annual Pinball Degenerates Awards Show will be held on Sunday, February 18th at 12pm Eastern Time

    high confidence · Joe explicitly states 'we're having it this Sunday February the 18th at 12pm Eastern on the Facebook page live'

  • There are 17 categories in this year's awards, with 5-6 new categories added

    high confidence · Joe says 'we have 17 categories I think about 5 or 6 of them are brand new categories'

  • Joe is donating $500 to each of three charities: Cancer Society of America, Multiple Sclerosis (Alan Seahack memorial), and NAMI (Mental Health Awareness)

    high confidence · Joe explains 'I'll be donating $500 to each of the Winner's name' and names the three charities with personal connections

  • The show will air only on Facebook Live, not on Twitch or YouTube

    high confidence · Orby asks 'this is only available on – it's not on Twitch. It's not on YouTube' and Joe confirms the Facebook group exclusivity

  • The Pinball Degenerates Awards are intentionally positioned as the 'Cable TV Awards or the Razzies' of pinball, not in competition with the Twippies or Pinball Awards

    high confidence · Joe states 'We're just the Cable TV Awards or the Razzies, rather, of the award shows of pinball'

  • The show will be approximately 1 hour 30 minutes long

    high confidence · Joe says 'Right now we have it timed in at just around an hour and 30 minutes or so'

  • Most Degenerate Pinball Pet and Most Degenerate Pinball Couple are among the most hotly contested categories this year

    high confidence · Joe describes 'at least two dozen couples' for the couple category and 'at least two dozen different nominees' for the pet category

Notable Quotes

  • “I started this group about six and a half years ago and it's kind of like a weird joke, a whim, and then you know people really started buying into the idea of being a pinball degenerate”

    Joe Ciaravino @ ~5:30 — Origin story of the Pinball Degenerates movement and its unexpected growth into a major community group

  • “We're just the Cable TV Awards or the Razzies, rather, of the award shows of pinball. And we just want to reward people who are members or even not members, just cool people in the pinball community who are doing really cool stuff”

    Joe Ciaravino @ ~8:00 — Clarifies the tone and purpose of the awards as celebratory rather than competitive with industry awards

  • “This is not going to be just an award show. We're going to offer something much, much more than just an award show, folks. We have some drama. Not bad pinball drama, but the good kind of pinball drama.”

    Joe Ciaravino @ ~13:15 — Sets expectations for entertainment value and suggests scripted/comedic elements beyond traditional awards

  • “I'm still losing money on this thing, by the way, the cost of just the awards. And I'm making personal donations again towards three different really great charities”

    Joe Ciaravino @ ~20:30 — Reveals nonprofit nature of the event and personal financial commitment to community and charity

  • “It takes a village man all every single little piece helps so robin from thanks big shout out to robin for helping us out again this year”

    Joe Ciaravino @ ~42:00 — Emphasizes community support and volunteer labor underpinning the event's success

  • “The whole point is to celebrate the group, you know? It's not really a business. It's not really to make money.”

    Joe Ciaravino @ ~28:00 — Core mission statement emphasizing community celebration over commercial profit

Entities

Joe CiaravinopersonOrbital AlbertpersonDrop Target DaniellepersonPinball DegeneratesorganizationChristopher FranchipersonLinus BarlowpersonKate Steven MartinpersonPeacepersonSandypersonTilt Arcade Bar

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: The Pinball Degenerates Awards Show represents an alternative, grassroots awards system positioning itself explicitly as non-competitive with Twippies/Pinball Awards, suggesting segmentation in how community recognizes achievements

    high · Joe describes it as 'Cable TV Awards or the Razzies' and states 'by no means is meant to compete with the Twippies Awards or the Pinball Awards'

  • ?

    event_signal: Third annual Pinball Degenerates Awards show scheduled for February 18, 2024 at noon EST on Facebook Live, exclusive to that platform

    high · Joe confirms 'this Sunday February the 18th at 12pm Eastern' and 'only on Facebook' with pre-show at 11:30am

  • ?

    business_signal: Sponsorship deals with non-pinball adjacent brands (Duxbury Cider, G Fuel, Sonic Boom Records, Tilt Arcade Bar) indicate successful monetization and partnership strategy for grassroots community events

    high · Joe secures multi-year G Fuel deal and 20% discount codes; describes seeking sponsors that are 'pinball adjacent or degenerate adjacent' to avoid conflicts of interest

  • ?

    content_signal: Pinball podcast and streaming content ecosystem continues to grow with multiple shows, live events, and collaborative projects; Pinball Degenerates Awards becoming a marquee community event

    high · Discussion of Facebook Live production, VOD availability, trivia giveaways, and new music video premiere at the awards show

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Positive sentiment around community participation and volunteer labor; Joe emphasizes fun and inclusivity rather than profitability or competition with established award shows

Transcript

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0:00
All get around, he's on the rebound Hear the sound of our buddy, oh lordy, it's Orby Pinball now to rejoice He's tugging pinball, craft beer and coffee Myth to syrup and honey Homestead life with his family And a random tangent Stories of his boys He's on the poor man's pod network We're gonna get more listeners for the Pinball Nerds Podcast.
0:32
Coming to you from beautiful River Hibbert, Nova Scotia. Welcome back, Pinball Nerds, episode 556 of your fifth favorite pinball podcast. My name is Orbital Albert, and on today's show, I've got the one, the only, the dote, the most degenerate of all time himself, Joe Cervino, the pinball degenerate man himself. Welcome to the show, Joe.
1:02
Hey, Albert. How's it going? I'm not just the Dode. I'm also the number one listener for your podcast. So I'm definitely your number one listener as well, my friend. Well, thank you so much for saying that. Actually, I was in a live stream with you, one of your late night call-ins, and you said that in chat. And I swear to God, Maybe I was just not having the best day. I didn't quite tear up, but I was like, wow, that was so nice of Joe to say. So I really appreciate you saying that. Even though who could listen to all 556 episodes? That's just too much. But I'll tell you what. That's a lot. That's a hell of a milestone for me, man. But hey, I'm halfway to 1111 is my favorite number, so I'm halfway there. So I'm just going to keep at it. And because of you coming on the show today, I'm now a hell of a lot closer to it. So what I will say before I get into your show, I do want to just let all the listeners know that if you skipped yesterday's show because you thought, I don't want to click on this because there's too much drama, I don't want to hear any more negativity and pinball, I get it. I will tell you this, I only talk about the subject that I click baited most people into for 30 seconds at the end of the show. So if you didn't want to listen to it because it was a little bit negative, just don't listen the last 30 seconds. Go enjoy the other two hours. All right. Now, done. We're going to clean our palates. We're going to get super degeneratized, which is basically how I live my life. It's a good thing you took this name first because I might have had to try to steal it from you. You're not degenerate, man. You're the one who sets the standard, man. I love it. Well, I thought it was Peace. Peace kind of – he's a whole new level. He's on another level. He's on another planet sometimes, actually. But I love him, man. He's a great dude. Shout out. Up for a nomination. Him and his partner, Sandy, actually. They're up for most degenerate pinball couple this year. Well, they get my vote.
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Poor Man's Pinball Networkorganization
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high · Joe states 'when it stops being fun then we'll stop doing it' and thanks crew for unpaid voluntary work on 'something really weird and special'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Tilt Arcade Bar in Toronto functioning as major hub for pinball community events and host of marquee third-party awards show

    medium · Joe describes Tilt as 'like family to me' and 'a big part of the pinball community here too'; they sponsor and host the Degenerates Awards with 12+ free-play machines

  • ?

    operational_signal: Grassroots event production learning curve; previous years had technical issues (DMCA copyright strike on Price is Right music) being addressed with professional streaming partners

    medium · Joe describes DMCA takedown causing 30 seconds of muted audio; now delegating streaming to professional 'Travis' to improve production quality

  • ?

    merchandise_signal: Community merchandise (posters, stickers, air fresheners, apparel) functioning as both fundraiser and community identity marker; limited inventory drives collectibility

    medium · Joe mentions 'new stuff coming up this year' and references a 72-portrait poster project; Orby unable to replace lost Pinball Degenerates sweater due to discontinuation

    • 2:51
    She's volunteered many years in a row, too, right? Say what? Oh, his partner. She volunteered many years in a row at Pinball FX or Replay FX as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's great. She's a wonderful person, Sandy. they're both pinball degenerates, and it's going to be a tough category to choose the winner, but, you know, I mean, they're all winners in my opinion. They've got love, they've got pinball, and they've got love and pinball keeping together. You know, what else more can you ask for in life than a partner? Well, you know what? My partner doesn't love pinball as much as me, but here's the great part. She likes it enough that, like, this weekend, it happens to be Drop Target Danielle's birthday, we're heading out to Seven's Pinball-O-Rama in Charlottetown for PEI, and they just got the dude they just got the big lebowski i can't they they're not leaving the official rug out there which i totally get because that collector's items you know very easily wrecked by people with they don't want anyone to pee on it well yeah okay so i'm the only one who would piss on it but everybody else would just have snowy boots and stepping on it and wrecking it right oh yeah i'm very excited i've never got to play the big lebowski i'm gonna get to play that this weekend but there's something more important to the pinball community that's happening this weekend and I think most of the people listening know what it is but give us like the coal notes versions of really what is the degenerate awards okay so basically I started this group about uh six six and a half years ago and it's kind of like a weird joke a whim and then uh you know people really started buying into the idea of being a pinball degenerate and expressing whatever obsessive compulsive behaviors you have in pinball whether it be collecting or restoring or playing pinball competitively or whatever. Everybody's got their own different thing, their bag in pinball. And I just wanted to create a group that celebrated that and with no shame or anybody mocking anybody else for what they do. And it's just a great group, a lot of great hilarious memes and jokes that we pass around. And it's a closed group, but it's also very open. And I just want to make sure to keep the bots out and just any kind of randos that really don't know anything about pinball. You basically just have to answer two very simple questions to join the group. One, basically name just a pinball machine, preferably your favorite. And two, just agree to not be a jerk and agree to the group's rules of being respectful and just be a good person, be awesome to everybody. And that's all we ask. And then you're in the group. Boom. And so after we hit 1,000 members, I wanted to reward everybody for being participants in the group. and I thought of this idea of the Pinball Degenerates Awards, which by no means is meant to compete with the Twippies or the Pinball Awards. Those guys are like the Golden Globes and the Academy Awards of the pinball world. We're just the Cable Ace Awards or the Razzies, rather, of the award shows of pinball. And we just want to reward people who are members or even not members, just cool people in the pinball community who are doing really cool stuff. unique stuff that makes interesting content so yeah we've got 17 categories I think about 5 or 6 of them are brand new categories I like to throw in a whole new mix kind of press some things up so yeah we're having it this Sunday February the 18th at 12pm eastern on the Facebook page live it's a Facebook group sorry on the Facebook group live on Facebook Live. We have a pre-show that's happening at about 11.30 a.m., but the real show happens at 12 p.m. That's Eastern Standard. It's pretty insane.
    6:37
    Two things. Number one, it's Eastern Standard time, and number two, can you give us a little like, you know, just a little, you know, it's only two days away. Could you give us maybe a little tidbit, a little preview, a little something-something for the listeners? This is not going to be just an award show. We're going to offer something much, much more than just an award show, folks. We've got some drama. Not bad pinball drama, but the good kind of pinball drama. And, you know, we have our mascot, Billy P. Ball. He's a great guy, and we love him. And unfortunately, he may get up into some shenanigans, some hijinks, some unfortunate things may happen to him. And we'll see. We'll see how this award show ends. but yeah basically we have something in the mix going on between the actual live ceremony now I've heard this is like I've heard this is kind of like not safe for work maybe don't put this on in your family room not safe for children I'm going to be dropping so many F-bombs and swearing constantly especially when things don't go right but hopefully most things will go right and if it doesn't It's okay. It's the degenerate way. It's no big deal. I hope you guys understand that You have to understand the stakes are very low It a very low bar we setting here folks This is not the Twippy Awards This is not the Pinball Industry Awards or the Pinball Awards Okay? So lower expectations as much as you can, but we're just going to have a lot of good fun. We're also going to have a lot of trivia questions and giveaways for trivia answers throughout the whole show. So make sure you're in the chat live. The first person to answer the correct answer will get some Pinball Degenerate merch, some merch that's donated by some of our sponsors at Duck Spray Cider. I might as well talk a little bit about the sponsors. Yeah, give us the sponsors. It's so cool that you went out and got sponsors for this. It's so rad, dude.
    8:34
    I didn't want to get sponsors that were directly related to the pinball industry. Yes, I know. I might have reached out to you.
    8:41
    Yeah, I appreciate that, but I don't want any kind of... because it's just me that's judging all this, right? That makes sense. I just want stuff that's pinball adjacent or degenerate adjacent so we got a duxbury cider it's an amazing brewery from meeper ontario they brew all their cider from georgian bay apples are absolutely delicious uh we're going to be hosted by tilt arcade bar in toronto canada come on by if you're ever visiting toronto come on by it's ten dollars all the games are on free play they got 90 games at least over a dozen pinball machines all set for free play for just 10 bucks for the whole night and it's at 12 55 queen street West. We also have a great sponsor, one of the largest actual independent record store in Canada, Sonic Boom is one of our major key sponsors. They've got awesome DVDs, records for used and new,
    9:34
    all for sale, all kinds of merchandise on their online store, Sonic Boom music.com They're amazing. They actually donated extra money on top of what we were generally asking for our sponsorship show. They're really huge supporters. And I can't say how much I love it. And they even have a Captain Fantastic pinball machine in their storefront, which is awesome. So they know pinball. They're good friends of pinball and pinball degeneracy. And then, of course, we got G Fuel. Oh my god, I can't believe it myself, but we actually signed on with G Fuel. Yeah, it's really great. We're hoping to do a multi-year kind of deal with G Fuel, and we'll be coming up with a promo code. I hope it will be PINDGEN. For Duxbury Cider, also, we have a promo code for 20% off on any online sales for Duxbury Cider. Just put in PINDGEN, P-I-N-D-E-G-E-N, and you get 20% off. Yeah, man. Go for it, buddy. Yeah, dude. It's amazing.
    10:37
    Do you think there's... Can I order that stuff out here to Nova Scotia? It's probably in Ontario, I'm assuming. I don't know. Check the website. I'll go on the website and check. Because Drop Target didn't... You know I'm a craft beer degenerate, but Drop Target didn't have one cider, so she's huge into the cider. I'm a cider guy.
    10:54
    Get the cider in cider. Yeah, they're really good. They're very dry, old-style, traditional-style craft ciders. And again, back to G Fuel, you don't want to mix your G Fuel with your cider, okay? No, no, no, no. Don't do that. A little vodka, maybe. Yeah, they've been sponsoring a few people like Raymond Davidson and the New York City Pinball Championships in the past. So they want to be more part of the pinball community. And, yeah, it was really great. I should have reached out to them a lot sooner, but hopefully, yeah, we can keep this going. And, yeah, so we've got some great sponsors that are really helping out, pay for just – I'm still losing money on this thing, by the way, the cost of just the awards. And I'm making personal donations again towards three different really great charities, the Cancer Society of America, for Norman Jennings, who was a great pinball commentator, and also for multiple sclerosis, for Alan Seahack of New York, he was a great pinball operator, most of the Jared Pinball Operator Award, and of course, Lyman Sheets, Mental Health Awareness, NAMI is the National Alliance on Mental Health Awareness. so yeah they're all really great charities and I'll be donating $100 in the winner's name like last time and like last year we actually had some viewers come in and match the donations which was just absolutely super cool if people want to do that please feel free that would be amazing if you want to match our donations so it's just a lot of stupid fun just giving away dumb plastic awards and having a lot of fun with friends but you know we're going to do a little bit of good too in the same time as well so everybody wins so joe that's so great that you're adding in the charities and you know everything um i like the i like too that you're not just picking one charity you're picking three different charities that directly affect three different pinball degenerates so that's just oh my god that my heart goes out to you that's so cool and then on top of that you know you're like you said like after you put out all your expenditures you're lucky that maybe even hopefully fingers crossed perhaps break even i hope maybe next year we'll okay but that's not what it's about no i know i know but how can we help what can we do it helps do you know what i mean joe like what can what can we do the people watching all the listeners like when we're in there of course we want to donate but how can we actually like can we buy help buy some stickers from you uh merch you want to buy some merch sure like do you still have sweaters t-shirts what do you have for merch right now yeah we we're gonna have some new stuff coming up this this next year it's gonna be really incredible stuff.
    13:32
    But yeah, we've got a couple pinball posters still, and stickers, and party cups, and what else? We have air fresheners or pinball fresheners. You can just get in touch with me if you can. Again, this is not really a business. It's not really to make money. I just think that this merch is really cool, and if you can help subsidize part of that, that'd be great. If you think it's cool merchandise too, then we can all share it, and it'd be awesome. But it's really not a business. It's just a group thing. The whole point is to celebrate the group, you know? Oh, yeah. It's mostly... Put awesome stuff out there. Yeah, I mean, for the most part, it's not for profit. Like you said, if you break even a great, if you have enough for an extra cider or two, great, but that's not the point. Yeah. All I know is I have hundreds and hundreds of pinball T-shirts. I have just stacking drawers of pinball T-shirts. But I only own one pinball sweater, and it is probably my favorite. I don't think you have it in stock anymore. No. But, you know, I left that hoodie at a bowling alley in Dieppe and I had to get my wife to call back because they're very, very French there. And I was like, honey, please offer them a reward. Tell them. And the lady there was very nice. She said, no, no, we have it in the lost and found. And I said, please, like, I'll give you a $20 reward. Don't like, I cannot replace that. Like there's none left on the planet. Thank God we went back there a couple of weeks later and they're awesome pinball nerds and they they saved the sweater i tried to give her 20 and she said absolutely not you're a patron of ours you know like so yeah if you happen to be in around the monkton area go to the awesome bowling alley there its name is in french there's only one bowling alley there and the other side of monkton uh in df so yeah but go there and play but actually both bowling alleys have pinball so go play them but that's neither here nor there i wanted to ask you i i don't have too much time it is drop target danielle's birthday this weekend so i don't have too much time yeah and i've interviewed you a lot and stuff before and i know you're just on slam tilt which is great to hear you with bruce and ron um and people should go listen to that if they haven't but tell me what is like what are like one or two would you say or even three of the most like contested categories and why oh sure yeah absolutely um this year we've got a very hotly contested category like i said for pinball couple most degenerate pinball couple got at least two dozen couples that have thrown their names in the ring there also most degenerate pinball pet is a very very contentious uh highly highly sought after uh award people their their cats their dogs their parakeets uh their their fish their turtles their pigs no goats there's the pinball pig you know the pinball pig is gonna win wow so i mean uh yeah that was one that i literally had thought of like the day after the second annual pinball degenerate awards i wanted to make the pinball pet or most degenerate pinball pet um and then a third one i guess would probably be in pinball pinjury which is an injury that you've sustained during or around the same time while you are playing pinball i don't like that name horrible horrifying stories and photos that people submitted. At least, again, like two dozen different nominees that I had to... It's very, very difficult to parse through that. Everybody has their own insane, pinjury story, and it's gripping and heart-wrenching in its own way, but I think I came to a winner. Hopefully, I made the right call, but there's some really, really, really great runners up there in the category. So definitely tune in for that one. most degenerate pinjury.
    17:15
    Have you ever gotten a pinjury, Albert? I know you had to hurt yourself when you were skateboarding. Oh, God. No, no, okay, I've definitely nudged way too hard, and I could feel it in either my wrist or my palms, or at Pemburg, I didn't get a pinjury per se, but just standing on those cement floors for 12 hours starts to hurt. Yeah, that's a grind. Here's what I wanted to ask. I hate the term pinjury, so I'll probably never say it again after tonight. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I love the term pin term, which is weird, right? But, like, something about that word, pinjury, it reminds me of the term moist. Like if I said, oh, Joe Chervino was about to get to wizard mode on Medieval Madness, but all of a sudden he had a flipper slip, flip, slip, flip, miss, because his hands were moist with sweat. It's like, no, don't say that. Please don't say that. Anyways, I've gone off topic. here's the thing is I tried to like it was so funny because I noticed not many people or at least from what I was watching not many people had applied for the most degenerate pinball animal and so I thought what about Luna Tuna Elowen I can throw her in there you know she's been in the background barking I know she's been she's barked in the background in like 500 shows and I swear to God the morning I put that entry in like Franchi goes in with probably the most famous pinball dog and then Kate Martin obviously with Linus. Barlow and Linus, it's like, oh well, Jesus. I wouldn't have applied if I knew Linus and Barlow were in there. Come on, that's like a center stage. I have no chance in there, but you know what? Some of these pets have already gotten the notoriety. Maybe the little guy, the little pet, literally the underdog.
    18:58
    He's recognized. But now if she wins, they'll say, I don't know, he interviewed him a week before. No, you already have it in writing in stone, don't you? I pretty much have decided all the winners at this point. I figured you would have. But you never know. You never know.
    19:12
    I could be playing games, you know? Well, how about this? If you let Elwynn win, I will air this. And if you don't... No, no, I'm just kidding. I wouldn't do that.
    19:24
    No, I wouldn't do that. I'm trying to think of... Okay, we've covered it. It's at Tilt. It's February 18th. It's at noon. But you should try to get there for the pregame. Yeah, if you can. It's fun. And it's a bunch of insane internet videos that are pinball-based, that are from the darkest corners of YouTube, that you've probably never seen before and probably never want to see again. Oh, my God. But it's worth watching. It's truly degenerate. It gets you in the degenerate spirit. I would recommend, you know, and that's noon Eastern Standard Time, EST. Correct. Yeah, Eastern Time, yeah. So, now, people should maybe, I know it's a little early for a cocktail, but maybe you could have like a Kahlua or a mudslide or a white Russian or something. You know, absolutely. A margarita. You could have a, what's everyone loves the orange juice and whatever they have for breakfast, you know, yeah, the blinis or something like that. Some type of nice, you know, breakfast. So, but, but you don't even have to have a drink. You could just get there. You could even stay at home in your comfy cozies. Um, so this is only available on, it's not on Twitch. It's not on YouTube. Everybody stops searching only on Facebook. It takes what? 30 seconds to join the group.
    20:32
    Yeah, or less than that. Just make sure you answer the two questions. Or else the bots will just kick you out. It's nothing to do with me. It's the bots that'll kick you out.
    20:41
    Well, I... You know what? Invite your friends. Invite your friends, invite your family, and make it like an event. This year, I'm not going to lie, I didn't even know the Twippies was happening until the day of, so I didn't make an event of it, but each year I even told Danielle, can you put a dress on just for fun? and she's like, okay, fine. You know, and like, can we get drinks out? And like, I wouldn't put on a tux because like, I don't do that for anybody, but I'd throw on like a tie or maybe like a Canadian tuxedo, like the little jean jacket or something, something fancy, you know, and just have some popcorn and some snacks and make like a whole to-do and a whole night of it, right? And that's like, that's the cool part that I'm excited that I'll probably just be laying in bed, hungover, tired, doing nothing, in PEI, snowed in, and hopefully Drop Target Danielle will say, okay, we can watch it for a little. Well, speaking of, approximately how long are we talking? Just like an hour and a half, two hours? Right now we have it timed in at just around an hour and 30 minutes or so. Perfect. We might have some technical issues that maybe, who knows, you know, but we're thinking about just over an hour and 30 minutes. So, but, yeah, it should be a lot of fun. And there will be a VOD for anyone who has to work Sunday or something like that. Yeah, we'll try to provide it soon after. It takes a little bit of time afterwards to process it with Facebook, but we will try it. But again, if you don't come in live, you can't win the prizes. You can't win the trivia award. So be there. You want to be in chat. You want to be there if you can in live to watch the thing. And hey, your name may be called, so who knows? Maybe I'll give it to someone else if you can't chime in.
    22:15
    Maybe we'll do that next year. It'll be a progressive, like, you know, like if the first call doesn't get it, then it goes down to the second place. I like that. And then further down the line.
    22:26
    If I could, before I let you go, I just have two little last questions. And then if you think of anything else, we can toss that in there too. Yeah, sure, brother. I'm just curious. I want you to name for me one memorable event maybe from, is this the third annual?
    22:40
    Yeah, the third one. Name, if you could, just for fun, for some of the lore. I think I've seen the other two. I know I've seen the other two. but for people who haven't like give us just an idea of something funny or unexpected or amusing that you a funny story or even something that happened in chat or something a technical difficulty you weren't expecting just something that happened one of the other years that you weren't kind of ready for that maybe you're more ready for this year your third annual you're getting you're getting big time now I don't know about big time but you know I don't know if anybody gets big time in pinball but uh yeah I remember I was like throwing in you I would have this idea for the first awards that I would take the awards and just casually throw them onto my bed but then I didn't realize like as the awards started to pile up I might actually break them and uh that was like an issue that I was like just a little trying to toss them on different parts of the bed so I didn't smash the awards in half like you know I wanted to have like a oh and then also yeah it was a really hard go at the beginning because I had this uh intro music I wanted to have like Price is Right music at the beginning yeah and that got completely like what the word just like you know shut down my Facebook Oh okay Like they MVP thing whatever it called Yeah DMCA The hammer came down. And it was, like, completely mute for the first, like, I don't know, 30 seconds. Oh, God. And I didn't know. I was just, like, talking to people. Nobody missed any part of the show. Right. Luckily, yeah. People in chat were kind enough to tell you.
    24:12
    Say what? Oh, like people in chat were kind enough to tell you, like, Joe, we can't hear you, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I'm an amateur when it comes to Facebook Live and stuff like that. We all are. I'm leaving that up to the professionals now. Okay. My buddy Travis, he does streaming for all the city pinball events that are at Cabin Fever, which was our last location. It was fantastic. And thanks to Robin again. Shout out. borrow her laptop that we were streaming on last time because uh you know it takes a village man all every single little piece helps so robin from thanks big shout out to robin for helping us out again this year even though we're not having a cabin fever we're not gonna be bothering her during the daytime in her business on saturday afternoon but it's gonna be a lot of fun tilt is a great host as well they're like family to me they're awesome people and uh they're a big part of the pinball community here too as well but yeah you know we're just trying to be slightly more professional i'm leaving up the what i can't do to the professionals uh in terms of streaming and stuff like that because that's definitely one of my weak points i really don't have much experience with it so yeah that's one thing that we're definitely improving now because because i love that i love that and you know what each year you'll make it a little better but don't put too much stress on yourself because honestly like we we get that you're not a multi-million dollar company you know you're not like you're not even like one of the top five twitch streamers you only live stream a couple times a year from your phone in your room really right like so like we we understand that you're not this big production anyone in chat being a jerk i'm sure all of us would be like dude chill out we're here to have fun man right like everyone has to just yes it's just for it's free fun and no one is getting charged money to come watch you no no it's free but we should and guys if you have extra money support joe support pinball degenerates even if he doesn't have you know tons of product left right now as far as i know you have posters and stickers and air fresheners we got we're gonna do crazy stuff this year like even more like ambitious than the poster which you were a part of yes thank you 72 portraits that were done of all of a lot of key pinball degenerate members such as yourself i'm so happy you're on that poster i'm gonna order one of the posters yeah pardon me oh i'm gonna order one of the posters I want to pick it up when I'm back in March to go to the Nationals. It's beautiful. Yeah, it came out so great. Everybody was so happy. And it was just, again, it's like this thing that just I kind of had an idea, but then everybody was so positive and supportive of it. It just ballooned into this crazy thing. Just like the Pinball Degenerates group, just like the Pinball Degenes. It's just kind of taking on its own kind of form thanks to the community. And that's who it's for.
    26:56
    Wow. Well, I'm so excited for you. Thank you so much for coming on the show. as you have several times before. You and I, Joe and I were chatting before we started the show and we're like, how many times have you been on the show? We're like twice at Pimberg. Remember at the Bluffs? At the Bluffs right after we had two Armas? Yeah, well it was raining outside or something. That was great. Is there anything else you forgot to mention or anything else you can think of or anyone you want to give a shout out to that you haven't already?
    27:24
    I just want to say thanks to everybody in the whole Pinball Degenerates group. The crew especially. I've got so many amazing people that are helping me they're not getting paid either they just want to be part of something really special and already from what we've got together prepared my crew has told me and I agree with them that we're just really having a lot of fun and it's just really great to be part of something really weird and special like this and we're doing it because we're having fun and when it stops being fun then we'll stop doing it but it's just hopefully just make everything better, pinball better, hopefully brighten up everybody's day on Sunday, if you're having a hard one. Tune in, enjoy the fun, and trust me, a lot of the humor is going to be at my expense, I assure you.
    28:12
    You're going to have to just tune in to see that. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Now, very last question for you here, I promise. Because we are on the Poor Man's Pinball Network, and a good buddy of mine, of course, Glenn the Skateboarder there, who does the intro song on the show you're on currently. Love him. Great dude. He might have mentioned that he may even, I don't know, I don't want to say too much, I'll let you, but he might have even done a little special project.
    28:38
    Yeah, Glenn, he gave us a musical tribute last time. Yes, which I loved. And we have a new music video. A music video? Well, yeah. Damn. Tune in to see it with his partner Joe. I forget his name, Faulkner? I can't remember his last name, I'm sorry. That sounds right. But he composed a new track that will be premiering at the Degenees very early on in the show, so you don't want to miss the early part of the show.
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    And, yeah, you're going to check out a new track, a new fresh one from Mr. Glenn Wechter, Mr. Glenn the Skateboarder himself. Wow. So, yeah, it's very exciting. One of the many surprises, one of the many surprises that we will have. Well, I can't wait. I'm so excited. I wish I could be there live in person, but of course I can't. Someday I will, though. Maybe even next year. Maybe some year I'll even, you know, maybe not co-host with you, but maybe you'll let me come present an award or something funny. Oh, we've got plans, Orby and you. If you want to be part of them, you're going to be part of them, buddy. All right. You guys, you heard it here first. We've got multi-year plans for this thing right now. Damn, I love this. Every year you just make it a little bit better, a little bit funnier, a little bit bigger, a couple more sponsors. It's awesome. I can't wait. I mean, not bigger is better, but it's going to be different. Let's put it that way. It'll be very, it'll be still an award show, but it'll be kind of a different twist on it. Let's put it that way. I love it. All right. I love it, Joe. All right. We'll be on Sunday afternoon, guys. Pinball Degenerates. Hit up that Facebook page. Answer the two quick questions you're in. You're going to experience the ride of a lifetime. Yeah, just don't be a jerk. You can still raz people a little. I know you're not super... Yeah, you can raz me all you want, but just be respectful. Don't make any... Everybody disagrees on pinball and stuff, right? Just don't make it personal. Don't make it a personal attack. Just say, yeah, you know what? That one's not for me. I like this, and you like that. That's all good, baby. Pinball's all good. Hey, you very rarely, if ever, have ever even had to mod Cliff Albert. So if somehow he can be on that page... Oh, gosh. If somehow he can get away with it... He's right on the edge sometimes of, you know. But, you know, shout out to Cliff. I gave him that award to make him be happy and satisfy him, and it seems to have worked so far so good. But don't encourage him. Don't encourage him. I'm sorry. Okay, I'll edit that, Joe. I'll edit it. No, I won't. You don't edit anything. No, no, never mind. All right. Pimble Nerd. Joe, stay on the line for a minute. I want to say goodnight to you. But everybody, Pimble Nerds, thank you so much for listening, tuning in. And hopefully you enjoyed. Go back and listen to yesterday's episode if you haven't yet. Honestly, there is some good nuggets of truth in there, even though you've got to dig through all the other BS to find it. But I'll tell you where there's no BS, and it's at the Pinball Degenerate Awards. That is Sunday, February 18th on the Pinball Degenerates Facebook page. Join it. Joe, thanks for being here, buddy. And until next time, say it with me. Eat, sleep, and breathe. Sleep and breathe. Pinball Degenerates.