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Episode 78: Pinbot Love Letter, Avengers Review, Top Three

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·held·Oct 30, 2020
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TL;DR

Poor Man's reviews Stern The Avengers (Pro), praises Keith Elwin design, discusses recent game acquisitions.

Summary

Poor Man's A Pinball Podcast Episode 78 features hosts discussing their recent hands-on experience with The Avengers (Pro) pinball machine via a loaner unit while Stern repairs Drew's TMNT. The episode includes a detailed review of The Avengers (Pro) compared to Premium/LE versions, praise for Keith Elwin shot design and code quality, and personal pinball acquisition news (Drew sold LaserCue and purchased a 2007 Spider-Man machine). Hosts emphasize their return to Twitch streaming and introduce a recurring "Top Three" segment.

Key Claims

  • The Avengers (Pro) is the most stacked Pro from Stern in a long time and has two spinners, a rare feature on Pro models

    high confidence · Ian speaking about The Avengers (Pro) specifications compared to other Stern Pro games

  • Avengers is at version 0.92 code, with Elvira, Jurassic Park, and Turtles all at 1.0 or better

    high confidence · Drew discussing Stern's improved code delivery in 2024-2025 releases

  • Keith Elwin designed Avengers with shot layout reminiscent of Iron Maiden but improved (Iron Maiden 2.0)

    medium confidence · Ian's subjective assessment of shot design similarities between Avengers and Iron Maiden

  • The Doctor Strange sling ring subway feature has ball rolling/detection issues on Premium/LE models; some owners had to jack back legs up and front legs down to make it functional

    medium confidence · Drew discussing reported issues with submarine toy and cabinet leveling workarounds

  • Stern previously had completion/code quality issues (citing Stranger Things at 0.3-0.4 release version pushed for Christmas deadline)

    high confidence · Ian and Drew discussing historical Stern code release problems versus current improvements

Notable Quotes

  • “Stern has not put two spinners on a pro. They did on Iron Maiden... Keith, you can do whatever the fuck you want.”

    Ian @ ~52:00 — Highlights Keith Elwin's design authority at Stern and the rarity of Pro models with dual spinners

  • “it's probably one of the most complete art packages that fits so well together... Zombie Eddie's an expert at throwing a lot at you but not making it look like shitty collage artwork”

    Ian @ ~54:00 — Praise for Zombie Yeti's cohesive art direction on Avengers, contrasted with previous designs

  • “there's so much to do and the rules are really deep as well so approachable for anybody... they have been crushing the code front”

    Drew @ ~56:30 — Assessment of Avengers' accessible yet deep rules design and Stern's improved code quality trajectory

  • “I'd conservatively say top five [shot layouts of all time]... it flows so well it's super fast”

    Drew @ ~59:00 — High praise for Keith Elwin's shot design on Avengers, ranking it among career-best layouts

Entities

Keith ElwinpersonStern PinballcompanyThe AvengersgameIanpersonDrewpersonZombie YetipersonSpider-Man (2007 Stern)gameBilly YJperson

Signals

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    gameplay_signal: Avengers Pro shot layout ranked conservatively top-5 all-time by experienced player; described as flowing well, super fast, fair difficulty balance with combo system feeling rewarding

    high · Drew: 'I'd conservatively say top five... it flows so well it's super fast... every time you hit a combo, it just feels so good'

  • ?

    product_concern: Doctor Strange sling ring submarine toy on Premium/LE has reported ball-rolling detection issues requiring extreme cabinet leveling adjustments (back legs max up, front legs max down) to function properly

    medium · Drew: 'one guy said he had his back legs jacked all the way up and his front legs all the way down just to make sure the ball could roll into the subway properly'

  • ?

    code_update: Stern's recent releases (Avengers v0.92, Elvira/Jurassic Park/Turtles at v1.0+) demonstrate significantly improved code maturity at launch compared to historical releases like Stranger Things (v0.3-0.4)

    high · Drew: 'stranger things came out of the gate... they pushed it out because they wanted it out by christmas... but all these games... avengers is at 0.92 or something already... all their new games are at 1.0 or better'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Keith Elwin appears to have exceptional design authority at Stern; able to include dual spinners on Pro model despite executive resistance to feature cost

    high · Ian: 'Stern has not put two spinners on a pro. They did on Iron Maiden... Keith, you can do whatever the fuck you want'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Avengers Pro achieves balance between accessibility (flashing light guidance, intuitive rules progression) and depth (complex multiball sequences, extensive rule modes)

Transcript

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0:00
Happy Halloween, Halloween, Happy Happy Halloween to Bird Shamba! Happy Happy Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, Happy Happy Halloween to Bird Shamba! It's almost time kids, the clock is ticking. Be in front of your TV sets for the Horror-Thon, and remember the big giveaway at 9. Don't miss it, and don't forget to wear your masks. The clock is ticking, it's almost time. Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, happy, happy Halloween to Bishop Rock. Happy Halloween, Halloween, Halloween. Happy Halloween, Halloween. Silver Shambas.
1:00
Oh, enough of that shit, huh? the poor man's pinball podcast is sponsored by flipping out pinball get your new shinies from zach and nicole many uh fantastic stuff get all your new shinies there and your escaleras save your back pin shades of course we've talked about pin shades the stylish eyewear you can wear to look cool and play pinball helps reduce glare and really helps track that ball in case you lost your balls fellows zen studios they just released some new products but they are the fantastic makers of pinball fx3 among other games so if you have not checked out pinball fx3 please do so um they do have quite the collection of williams games so far so and they're growing every it seems to be a um a monthly cycle of games they just keep coming out with more every every quarter so So next up, we've got Twip. We all know what Twip is, This Week in Pinball. One of the most fantastic sites where we steal all our news from and pictures. Twip, you paid us $3, so there you go, Jeff. We love you. Pin Stadium Lights, please enter poormans with an S to get 10% off your order, which is a pretty good deal considering those orders are like $300.
2:24
10% is 10%. Yes, you better believe it. So I've been having a lot of arguments online. I'm sick of fighting online about melting your face off using Penn Stadium lights. You can adjust the brightness of this thing. You can adjust the volume of the lights. The volume, the brightness, all of it. All of it. It's all good. And pinballprices.com. Doc Finley, our best friend and our partner in crime because he likes to send us booze. We appreciate you, Doc. pinballprices.com is a great resource for everyone to take a look to see how much games are and how much they're going for and what they've sold for so there you go it's the first pinball podcast to crowdfund a re-theme of oktoberfest for kessler's home of the very first seven thousand laser war you heard it in first baby that's of course poor man's pinball podcast seven thousand dollar laser war drew how you doing buddy i'm doing good welcome to the poor man's pinball podcast episode number 78 right i've been waiting to say this all week we're on twitch bitch we're on twitch we're doing the twitch thing twitch bitch we're back it rhymes We're back on Twitch. We're rhyming. That's a thing. Well, you know, we did the Twitch thing once before we had the technology figured out. We figured out the technology. Then we went to Facebook right away.
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Jurassic Park (Pro)game
LaserCuegame
Oktoberfestgame
Iron Maiden (Stern)game

high · Drew: 'you come up to this game you shoot the flashing lights... it's pretty intuitive after several games but yet there's so much to do and the rules are really deep'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Avengers Pro is noted as most feature-complete Pro model from Stern in extended period, with dual spinners, complex shot sequences comparable to Premium tiers

    high · Ian: 'it's probably one of the most stacked Pros from Stern in a long time. It is full... next to the Jurassic Park Premium, honestly, it wasn't that huge of a difference'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Zombie Yeti's art package on Avengers praised as highly cohesive, integrating multiple characters and visual elements without appearing as cluttered collage; ranks among best integrated Stern art packages

    high · Ian: 'probably one of the most complete art packages... Zombie Eddie's an expert at throwing a lot at you but not making it look like shitty collage artwork'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Avengers Pro shot layout evokes design similarities to Iron Maiden (previous Keith Elwin title) while remaining distinct; Jurassic Park feels more different by comparison

    medium · Ian: 'it did remind me a little bit like iron maiden... it's not a bad thing it's like iron maiden 2.0... whereas jurassic park feels very different than the other two games'

  • ?

    content_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast migrated from Facebook to Twitch; Facebook had moderation/approval issues; new Elgato capture card improves stream quality significantly

    high · Ian: 'Facebook wasn't cool... Facebook's like living in your parents' basement... We're here on Twitch... the video quality has been significantly increased'

  • $

    market_signal: Drew sold LaserCue machine and acquired 2007 Spider-Man (with LED upgrades) via Troy Smith trade/sale channel in Illinois; indicates active secondary market circulation

    high · Drew: 'I managed to finally sell LaserCue... I bought a Spider-Man... Troy South, Troy Smith in the Illinois area... He brings one in on trade... It looks great. It's got LEDs... getting shipped in a week'

  • ?

    operational_signal: Stern provided loaner Avengers Pro to customer (Drew) while diagnosing and repairing his TMNT machine; indicates customer service practice during extended repair timelines

    high · Drew: 'Stern is currently working... They're not working on my TMNT... they're trying to diagnose exactly why it's happening... Me getting an Avengers Pro this week to play'

    • 3:51
    And Facebook was cool. We really liked it. We liked it a lot. But Facebook wasn't cool, if you know what I mean. So we're here on Twitch. Facebook's like living in your parents' basement. It sucks. Yeah, that's cool if I want my grandma to comment and judge me at Christmas. Not give us stars because we don't take games properly and stuff. Well, they can suck a big old bowl of donkey dicks. So anyway, Drew, how you doing, bud? I'm doing good, man. Yeah? How's life? Lovely.
    4:22
    Life is lovely. Lovely. Yeah, we're back for another week. I'm excited. Let's do it. Another episode. Let's talk about last week's episode, shall we, before we get into what we're drinking? There was a lot of non-pinball awesomeness last week.
    4:38
    pinball's great we had a good time talking about pinball we're talking about the great emu war of 1932 and jesse j dr john i learned how to say it emu emu emu you know i it wasn't because i was drunk because i'm drunk and i say stuff all the time and it sounds fine for whatever reason i just kept tripping over that word i saw it in my head and i'm like emu emu and i was trying to explain this on last week's episode too about the way i pronounced it because i always called it emu and which is a lot closer than this late night talk show no it was like a late night um they were selling like emu or oil or something it was like a you know shopping late night shopping thing and they kept saying oh and the elegant forests of australia here we have gotten the emu oil the emu oil and i'm like what are they doing squeezing these emus i'd watch it all i'd be like emu what the fuck's an emu oh you guys mean emus and now it's emu so i never said it right i guess no this this week i'm fine the story and yeah jesse j is like spelling it out phonetically for me on chat emu yeah i don't know emu so there i go i'm i'm back in the saddle i could say it i've been having a couple of drinks but emu yeah it was kind of funny though everyone we got a ton of listens to that tune in to episode 77 and like i said we talked some gnr we talked some other things but then we end it with the great emu war of ended it 32 it was like 90 of the cats yeah yeah there were there were giant birds with guns there were guys choking giant birds there were there's a lot of things going on there was a great war yeah it was a great war so um no one ever said who won do the emus uh own australia now there's still emus out there so i think it's a draw we didn't have enough bullets for all hail king emu oh my gosh his name is john john dr john are you an emu all right anyway so anyways so that was unexpected we didn't plan the great emu war to show up emu i said emu you did it again the emu war you did it again um so with that being said uh who knows what today's episode is going to be because i don't uh i do so you don't i did do notes look at me look at this is gonna be a lame show lame lame lame everything is scripted everything is scripted yeah not no there's actually not much scripted but uh no yeah shut up um before we start that though yes there is something way more important than what's going on in today's show exactly because it is part of today's show exactly what you drinking today buddy we're gonna make some drinks we are gonna make some drinks on the air in front of you it's very complicated live on twitch not facebook we're gonna say that about 100 times this is gonna be the joke of the week twitch bitch twitch bitch all right so if you've ever gone to margaritaville this drink is dedicated to mr josh mudd the first time we had this i think we talked about this on a previous episode was in vegas right it was in vegas so we were in vegas and i don't remember the place we were at do you margaritaville was it margaritaville this is a margaritaville okay all right so uh yeah anyways we we get there and we just ordered some land shark beer which we have right here it's it's a basic lager there's nothing fancy about it it's good it's like uh it's clean it's an easier drink here than corona because coronas can get um a little skunk yes but it's it's corona like so you know normally they put the lime in it some people put the salt in it you know it's just a uh island style yeah what the hell does that even mean very simple beer so we we order some of these and the waitress who was she good looking or not i don't remember doesn't matter we were drunk it was vegas baby she said to us she said do you want those things loaded and we didn't even hesitate we just we didn't ask what it was we said yes. Loaded. But then we had to ask what it was because we were just curious. And she said you take a bottle like so, a normal bottle of beer. You open it. You fill up from here to here with tequila. The air bubble. Yep. And you enjoy. So we're going to do that right now. I got some 1800 silver tequila. We're going tequila tonight, kids. We enjoyed quite a few of these because we thought it was the greatest thing in the world. We were what? Like 22, 23? We were young. No, we were a little older than that. This was before I met Kathleen.
    9:17
    I thought Kathleen was there. It was Katie's 21st birthday. Kathleen was there. Sorry, love. My wife was there. She wasn't my wife at the time, though.
    9:28
    And, yeah. So, anyways. Here's my beer. We put the tequila in there. No limes, Ian, really. What kind of host are you, buddy? I just thought about it. Man. Ian is the drink mixologist Do you want to go get some limes? It's too late now You already failed It's Twitch bitch You gotta do this To make sure you don't spill Alright cheers Cheers buddy They put the tequila in the beer And they drink on Twitch We will upload this recipe To our page later there's there's uh 10 steps wowza that is as good as i remember it this is going to be a short show this show will be over in 22 minutes what the hell let's do it so that's a loaded land shark anyways we just wanted to share some of our uh our great uh drinking knowledge with you guys and Yeah, it's a good drink. It's really good in the summer. Obviously, you're sitting outside and you have... God, we drank like a dozen of these things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Puked everywhere. It was gross. It got a little out of hand. So there you are. Oh, stuff in the emu. Loaded, loaded Landshark. So anyways, what we're going to be talking about today that is pinball related.
    10:59
    Welcome to episode number 78. The sloppiest show on Twitch. Twitch, bitch. First of all, yeah, welcome all you guys here. We got a bunch of people in chat. Glad you guys are here. We are going to... This is Kosh. No, it's not. It's Josh, loser kid. I know who you are.
    11:17
    Poor man's personal pinball news. I actually have a ton of it, so that's what we got going on there. We're going to segue that into a top three today. Top three. Not a top five, not a top ten. Top three. We got even lazier. Yes. If you could believe that. Ian's like, we don't have time for this five nonsense. Who's got the time? I don't have time. Five things. We've got to come up with five. It's not time, people. I can only think of four. Okay, so let's do three. Well, in this case, it could only be three. Yeah, we'll explain more later. Yeah, it's fine. We'll get to it. Okay, we'll get there. We are not doing a tribe induction because, as we've said many times, we want to keep it special. We'd like to keep you on your toes, too. So we're not going to be doing those every single week. we have a couple of cool mailbag type items and you know we'll talk a little bit more just basic shit about shit I mean it won't get as crazy as emu wars but we don't know you never know I'm saying that now and next week we'll be saying let's recap last week when we talked about something crazy yeah it was bullshit how do we look going there on twitch guys can you just tell us know that we sound okay and we look okay are my nipples in 4k the video quality has been significantly increased because i gotta tell you the story so when we originally decided to go and do the video side of our podcast uh billy yj one of our favorite uh people of all time uh he was very hands-on and helping us set all of this up he even went so far as to buy us our first capture card which admittedly probably wasn't like the nicest quality capture card but you know what it was just one less thing we had to buy and i thought it was the fucking coolest and it worked really well but every once in a while since you've seen some of our streams on facebook or whatever i'd get a little glitchy and you guys like to laugh at my shitter net shitter net dicks So what we're going to do is he bought us a new Elgato Streamlabs Cam Link Sirius capture card. Talk about poor man. This guy buys an Avengers Premium and an Ultimate capture card for us in the same week. Too sweet. Too sweet of you. So Billy YJ, thank you. This is to you. Billy YJ, this is for you.
    13:48
    Ooh. So what did we get? I heard sounds. These are new sounds. What does that mean? I don't know. We're learning. We're not Jack Danger. We're not on Twitch every day, so we're learning what these sounds are. Yeah, so Billy, I appreciate it, brother. I really do. Yeah, no, it's awesome. Thank you, sir. So what are we going to do today? What should we start with? Poor man's personal pinball news. All right. Should we do some sound effects to that? Yeah. I'm sure I got something there. We got everything.
    14:16
    Here we go. We got it. and now the moment you've all been waiting for of course i'm talking about the poor man's pinball podcast personal pinball news all right here we go like the em sounds all right the poor man's personal pinball news drew you want to go first i'll start i got news finally i love it i love when ian has news because So if you're like nothing, I got shit. Yeah. I don't want time. So Friday night, if you didn't see us on the Facebook page, like us on the poor man's pinball pack podcast, Facebook page. But we had, I had some time to hang out with my buddy, Drew and my buddy episode for Eric. So one of the highlights of my week, cause the week was a lot of work. So I was able to like, I'm smiling cause he was with me. I just got to knock it all away. So Drew mentioned last week about getting his turtles fixed from Stern and to steal some thunder. They gave him a, they let him use a loner game. And guess what that loner game was? Go ahead.
    15:33
    Tell them. An Avengers Pro. It's awesome. An Avengers Pro. So we got to play Avengers Pro. I played a little bit of his Jurassic Park Premium. Played a game or two on Simpsons. and those are three killer fucking games dude ian asked me if i could have four games in that room because i can i can fit five or six comfortably but four just on one wall and he said is there four games you would just have bolted in here and i froze because the answer is the answer is no because i've moved about 20 games out of there i like games um but but since this has been there a while jurassic park's been there a while obviously avengers is new um my laser cue's in there i'll talk is that ryan c but uh so better be funny cunts just saying all right ryan c all right all right we're sure we're gonna try but oh we're starting with the cunts already yeah yeah those australians love cunts um so ryan c welcome welcome welcome brother so which which game did you like the best all right so man i was playing avengers pro um the fucking shots on that game Let's just kind of start. Are we going to do a review right now? You want to do like a bullshit giant cheese slice review, or what do you want to do? Let's get to that as soon as I'm done with my news. All right, so I like them all. We'll go to our top three. Okay. I'm not going to go into details. We'll go into details more about Avengers. My most interesting part was playing Avengers Pro and then jumping on Jurassic Park and which one I liked better, which one shot better. It was very interesting. So we'll talk more about that later on in the episode. But I had a great time. And then on Saturday night, we had some friends over, and we played a shit ton of Oktoberfest. I wasn't invited to that.
    17:18
    Best game out of the weekend. No, I'm joking. All right. Sorry, Drew. What do you got, man? So Ian kind of told you guys that I got an Avengers Pro on loan because Stern is currently working. They're not working on my TMNT. They know what's wrong with it. They're trying to diagnose exactly why it's happening, like I told last week. That's fine. Here's the coolest part. Me getting an Avengers Pro this week to play is not even my most exciting part of my pinball news.
    17:45
    So, yeah, I've had a crazy week. I've been working all week, but in between home and work, I managed to finally sell LaserCue, make that space open.
    17:58
    And Kathleen, are you listening? I don't think she's around. Okay. I bought a Spider-Man. Oh! Spider-Man, Spider-Man does what a spider can. I was going to play that theme song, but we'd probably get kicked off, wouldn't we, for copyright infringement.
    18:20
    That's the Spider-Man theme song, by the way. There you go. So anyways, our boy Troy South, Troy Smith in the Illinois area, not to be confused with Troy North, as he often is.
    18:33
    He buys and sells lots of games. He brought one in on trade the other day. I saw it. It looks great. It's got LEDs. It's the original 2007 Spider-Man. It's great. It's getting shipped in a week or so. Fucking A. So, yeah, LaserQ's out. As much as I liked it, I needed the room, and Spider-Man's obviously a much better game than LaserQ, even though LaserQ's fun. We ain't as rich as Ryan C. out there. Yeah, we don't have unlimited cunt money. I'm sorry, guys. I don't want to be crude. I'm just going to throw that word in as much as possible in today's episode in honor of Ryan C. Ryan C., welcome. What a special guest. Yes. Cunt. That cunt ain't going to be the tribe members. That cunt ain't a tribe member. All right. When we say it, it just sounds crude. When Australian people say it, it sounds cute. Oh, you're such a cunt. Yeah. And everyone goes, ah, ha, ha. You say it, dude. Americans do like cunts and they go whoa whoa that was a hard C Someone pulls a gun out on you or something Hard C Can do that as an American Can do that here Charming for Australians to say that shit
    19:42
    Do we have a charming word we can say? Butthole. We made the word butthole charming. All right, let's go to chat. Let's see how things are going.
    19:54
    Anyways, that was pretty much it for my pinball news. I'm pretty excited. So, yeah, it's good. we'll talk about avengers here in a second what do we got going on in chat but i don't know nice spider-man is fun see now here's the thing we don't know who anyone is anymore that's the beauty about facebook yeah um let's see can we give bits uh tony scoots probably not right now i think we need to do a couple shows yet but yeah but it was easier than facebook that was one of the issues facebook wouldn't approve us they approved us one week it was a couple weeks yeah and it doesn't Yeah, it's just a whole thing. I have bits to give. Tony, don't worry. We have bits that we would like to receive. Just give us a couple weeks. I think we need to stream a couple times. Drew, I'll trade you a taxi for it. LOL. That was Billy Y.J. For LaserQ? I'm assuming for Spider-Man.
    20:46
    Automod. Held a message for per-reason identity. What? Cunt money. Oh, allow it. Oh, really? Was that the... I guess people don't like the word cunt. I don't know. Yeah, except all this cunt stuff. We're going to have to change these filters.
    21:03
    Can't say cunts in Twitter, man. Oh, man. I just got blocked for repeating money. I don't know what that means. I held a message for a reason. I didn't know it was posted. Oh, my God. We're going to have to change a lot of these settings, apparently. I put swearing aloud. I don't know. Maybe cunts beyond swearing. Yeah. Whatever, guys. George Carlin would be proud. The rest of the world would be so much. So, yeah, guys. So, subscribe. Subscriptions help us. And all that good stuff. So for the time being, guys, just don't say cunt. We can.
    21:35
    It's our show. What's the make equivalent of calling someone a cunt? What's the make equivalent? I don't know. Is that American? I don't like that word. Nah, cunt is a bad word. Yes, that's presidential. Unlimited cunt money? Oh, my God. Okay, we're not turning this into the dildo episode. Oh, hi. Hi, Rachel. Sorry. No wonder she doesn't like that word. Yeah, words don't work well. No. See, we just determined that's how that works in America here. We just pissed off a bunch of people.
    22:09
    All right, we're going to move past the C word. How about that? The hard C. Okay. No more hard Cs. Thanks, Ryan.
    22:15
    See what you started in our debauchery here? All right. Let's talk pinball. So, Avengers. Avengers review? Yes. All right, here we go. So, here's the cheese slice.
    22:27
    Yep. So we played the Pro. All right, let's talk about that. What's the difference between the Pro and the Premium, Drew, real quick? Just knock it down. Boom, boom, boom, so we all are on the same page. There's just two real basic changes. So the Doctor Strange sling ring, which spins around, it is on all the games. In the Premium and the LE, when you're ready for a, what do they call it, a strange lock? I'm sorry, a portal lock, the sling ring rises up. A Circus Voltaire. and you shoot it in there it goes into the subway now there were a lot of people already complaining that uh the ball was not rolling all the way forward and they were having trouble hitting the switches so it didn't know the ball was in there so they've i think they've changed actually the um the mold of the subway to better adapt because one guy said he had his back legs jacked all the way up and his front legs all the way down just to make sure the ball could roll into the subway properly i found that uh concerning so anyways because i had that fun to play yeah yeah no shit so anyways but back right leg jack all the way up back left leg all the way down but my front left all the way up front right all the way down it just rocks the whole thing just rocks easiest way to nudge easy peasy yeah you just you just kind of push your finger boom uh strange so sorry keep going so there's that and then the other really uh non uh what's the word i'm looking for i feel like i'm yelling in the mic functional uh difference so the pro has the captain marvel spinner next to the thor uh captive ball but the premium has a 180 ramp that uh wire form ramp that comes back at you and and there's a little vuck on the right side then for the premium because it kind of all intertwines there right um so so those are the differences and then there's some aesthetic differences obviously the premium has a it looks like a kitchen glove a yellow kitchen glove yeah one of those scrubby gloves for the for the gauntlet um it's cool it in the the mold is pretty cool but just the coloring it just doesn't look whatever that right The plastic looks fine on the Pro. I like the plastic. So, yeah, it's a cool plastic because as you're getting the gems, they start lighting up. It's kind of neat. But I'm sure seeing those lights, and someone's going to make a mod. You know, they're going to make like a cover for it or something, I'm sure. That makes it gold. Just a nice little fister. Just a hole and put it over the fist. Don't say fister. The nice little fist. A fist covering.
    25:12
    A very classy, classy face. Classy fist covering. Just to give it a little bit more depth and shadow. A nice fisticuff. Fisties. So, anyways, those are the differences, but game shoots well. All right, so my first thing I noticed about the Pro is it's probably one of the most stacked Pros from Stern in a long time. It is full. It really is. It is a full game. I mean, next to the Jurassic Park Premium, honestly, it wasn't that huge of a difference. Can I say this? You can say it. It has two spinners. And that doesn't sound like a big deal to people, but Stern has not put two spinners on a pro. They did on Iron Maiden. Gary Stern's pooper is this big. He's still hating being able to pay for two spinners. Yeah, Iron Maiden managed that. See, so it must be Keith Allen, because Iron Maiden had two spinners on it. Keith, you can do whatever the fuck you want. But Metallica, now remember, going back to 2013, the Metallica Pro had zero spinners, and the Premium had two. So, you know what I mean? It's like that's a premium feature, so to speak, and Keith Allen gets two of them in his games. Right. So that's impressive. Yeah, no, no. It was a full-featured game. I really, really liked it. I didn't miss the subway. I would have liked to have seen that 180. Yeah. I would have liked to have seen that in action. Our friend Tim Lee played both, and he said the subway isn't that great, but the 180 ramp is. What am I doing? Billy YJ has it. Billy, what did you think about the subway? Have you had any issues with it?
    26:50
    Did you have to jack up those legs the way you described it? Yeah, Billy, tell me. It actually looks good in person. No, what does? Pinball doc, what can't we say? We're not saying it anymore.
    27:00
    You've got to pause that, buddy. So, yeah, the spinning disk. All right, anyway, still getting used to chat here, guys. Give us a second. All right, so. Yeah, no issues, just slows game. Yeah, so the game looks full, looks super fun. It was a beautiful art package. I think it's probably the most, besides Deadpool, which is another Zombie Yeti game, it's probably one of the most complete art packages that fits so well together. From Stern, Beatles was the same way.
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    Just head to toe, it all just kind of flowed together in a very nice, organized, yet not a collage way. Again, Zombie Eddie's an expert at throwing a lot at you but not making it look like shitty collage artwork. I'm splitting hairs here because I love it. The art package, I think it's great. You put it next to Johnny Crap's shit? Yeah. Sorry, Johnny Crap, but come on. But Johnny Crap, as we talked about, he only had that map to work with and he didn't have as much real estate. But would you have rather seen a big Thanos head with his eyes like Deadpool in the middle? I don't care. Okay.
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    I think it's beautiful. No, it looks fantastic. I don't know much about Avengers. I know Iron Man. Mm-hmm.
    28:23
    Or? That's his Avengers knowledge right there. I mean, I guess the movie stuff, right? The comic stuff, I never get into. No, I never. I was into Hawkeye in the comics. Yeah. And War Machine. He was popular for a bit. Yeah, they integrate quite a few characters in that game. Yeah. So they did a good job. So anyway. But yeah. Artwork. Mm-hmm. How many cheese slices? 100? 50. 50 cheese slices. Good job, Zombie Eddie. That's a lot. It is. No. I don't know what it means. If you guys want to know what cheese slices mean, let us know. We don't know. We have no idea. Google it. Poor Man's Pinball Cheese Slices. What the hell does that mean? Mm-hmm. We give it 50 slices. How many slices would you give it?
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    49 and a half. It's a good package. They're raining down from the sky. uh all right so anyway so no our package awesome uh layout chats and layout real quick um keith elwyn shooter um it felt to me and people are probably gonna hate me and drew didn't like it when i said it a couple times but it did remind me a little bit like iron maiden um and i say that as like it's not a bad thing it's like iron maiden 2.0 like he took iron maiden and improved around it and some of the shots just felt very similar to me um i know not everything on the layout is the same as iron maiden it just felt very iron maiden to me whereas jurassic park feels very different than the other two games so that was kind of my takeaway on the shots but everything's super makeable everything was super exciting to hit um it wasn't very clear on what to shoot for i wasn't really understanding the rules as much but drew you're kind of locked in with the rules it sounded like so i just i needed more time obviously you know sitting there and playing it in front of a bunch of people you probably don't get everything down yeah well it's uh as far as the rules go it's it's another genius move because you come up to this game you shoot the flashing lights and then on the screen it kind of shows you what's happening and it's it's pretty intuitive after several games but yet there's so much to do and the rules are really deep as well so approachable for anybody i will i will give stern some some mad props remember it felt like it feels like 10 years ago but it's only been a couple years where people are bitching about incomplete code in certain games that's true they have been crushing the code front they finally got caught up on all their coders and they've been they've been delivering some pretty deep codes right out of the box yes great to see because after the you know stranger things tobacco eat those cheese slices uh you know stranger things came out of the gate you know they they pushed it out because they wanted it out by christmas so they were out at like 0.3 or 0.4 or whatever it was but all these games yeah this whole year you're right like 0.8 0.9 point you know avengers is at 0.92 or something already um elvira is done uh jurassic park is done turtles is done so yeah all their new games are at 1.0 or better all right what do you think about the shots you had some big words about those shots man those shots big words might be uh what i say top three or top five of all time just because it flows so well it's super fast um it doesn't punish you too much but you know there are a few you know uh i guess uh brutal shots um but if you know if you miss you know you might get punished here or there but i think it's overall it's pretty fair right and uh but just as a once again theme aside integration aside all that stuff just the shots put it on a white wood i'm i'm gonna conservatively say top five because it's new big words told you guys but not top three. Um, you know, I'd, I'd have to think about what I, what I think is a little better than that. Um, but yeah, it's, uh, it's definitely a great shooters game. So, um, and every time you hit a combo, it just feels so good in that game. So, you know, from the left to the right to the spinner, you know, comes around that, that loop shot from the upper left flipper that comes back to your right flipper that's awesome you know so so the the balls up in the helipad and then it falls down and then you shoot the loop and then all of a sudden it's on your right flipper yeah super cool i think i think the next thing you guys should get next time you get something powder coated you should get those dick weights and uh done with the armor what color is that poor man's pinball gmail.com let us know five seven zero i'm assuming that's skateboarder glenn but yeah it's definitely glenn um i will power coat the dick weights yep oh shit give me a few more of these i'll model the dick weights for you glenn whatever you want buddy whatever you want and they wonder why we got kicked off of facebook uh let's see here oh there was a question here thanos somebody had a legitimate question thanos's head sounds dirty yeah it does um rule 34 i agree that uh jaeger um i agree the gem modes are not clear yes it is it is a little confusing pinball but doc yes very satisfying um i find the screen so hard to watch while i play always well you know what that's that's kind of where i'm at too i believe that's rachel um so it's it's one of those things like i think if you had one in your home and you got used to the way Stern does it. Because I know at first when you had Iron Maiden, it wasn't super obvious to you, but then you had it for a while, and then it became second nature. I feel like all these Stern games you play now, you are always ahead of the curve over me because I never buy Stern. Yeah, that's true. Because they are similar. They are. They tell you how many spinners you need to hit before you get something else done. And Keith Alwyn loves doing that where he puts all the info up on the screen, like this is what you need and um yeah i think yeah and dwight did that with uh you know with turtles with some different things so bj boxy hey boys had just had a giant cotton bud rammed down my throat and up my snozz having a covid 19 test great fun not we're one step closer to playing on site in melbourne can't wait hey man that's awesome um so i hope you're feeling better or at least you're not getting covid like hope you don't have it so sorry this tequila's already hitting so uh yeah no hope you're feeling better um not gonna lie taxi gives me the same shot satisfaction yeah taxi's one of my games uh love stern play better blah blah blah okay um thank you guys so um sorry so shots and layout 100 100 cheese slices 100 cheese slices yeah the shots and It's fantastic, 100%. What else we got? Toys and gimmicks? Toys and gimmicks.
    35:28
    Two cheese slices. No, that helipad's pretty cool, the magnet lock. Is that really a helipad, or are you calling it the Avengers Tower?
    35:39
    It's both. There's a helipad on the Avengers Tower. It's the Avengers Tower. Okay, it's the Avengers Tower. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry to all the Avengers fans out there. It's cool. Yeah. It's cool. I mean, it is a pro. Yeah. Well, I think that's the same on all of them. Are you going to make fun of me? Says the guy what? He says, Iron Man, Thor. That's all I got. Yeah, fuck that.
    36:02
    The tower was my nemesis. I could not figure that fucker out. Every time I foul, he's like, down the middle. Down the middle. I wasn't fast enough to hit that ball with the upper flipper. Down the middle. And then I thought I was going to be cute and just hold down the flipper so it would just kind of bounce off of it. One time he forgot after he told me about the trick. Oh, I bounced off my flipper, hit the spinny thing right down the middle. I was like, oh, you fucker. So, yeah, that game was fun to play. Really enjoyed it. Looked great. Toys and gimmicks, there wasn't a lot there, but Keith Elwin kind of is a torn gimmick on himself. His shot layouts are so much fun. Well, yeah, the wire foreign ramps, I mean, there's obviously a lot of that. He does a lot of good shit there, a lot of good shit. And that sling ring is, I think it's underrated. Sling ring! It's a little underrated because, I mean, here's the one thing I heard, though, that the spinning disc in Guns N' Roses is, like, basically on ball bearings, and that thing they said spins, like, all day. Like, it's a similar thing. It's a rock star thing. And you hit that thing, and they said it just goes. It doesn't stop. and unfortunately like you you get a good hit on this sling ring on on avengers you know you get six or eight rotations which is cool maybe but you'd like to see like you know like a top you know like did we just do that in unison we did oh my god cute all right so anyway so that's uh that's avengers i'd give it you know overall probably a good 75 cheese slices maybe even 100 cheese slices fantastic game what it wasn't a game i was expecting to like as much as i did but it's a fantastic game um game alone i wasn't too thrilled with the theme but game is fantastic and i saw pictures of billy yj's oh my god that premium so pretty billy it's so fucking pretty so pretty where do you put this in stern's modern era so like from from acdc to now You know what? So maybe, you know, 30 games, you know, whatever it is, 40 games. Where does this fit? It's top 10. Okay. Top 10. Okay. So I gave it a top 10 nod. So you do recognize the brilliance.
    38:28
    I recognize the brilliance. I'm going somewhere with this. So Keith Allen has also done Iron Maiden and Jurassic Park, right? Where do those fit in in the 50-star games? Are we doing a top three? We're getting there. Well, let's get into the top three. Okay, let me preface this, the top three. Yeah. So this week, Pinside Top 100, Avengers Ali made it all the way up to number two, squeaking out Guns N' Roses by a mere couple of votes, it looked like. so now Keith Alwyn officially has three of his three games in the top ten on the Pinside Top 100 So I think they are yeah number two Jurassic Park is number four and Iron Maiden, I think, is number nine. So three games, three years, Keith Allen, top 10. And the other thing I thought was interesting was some of the old guard is changing now because, like, other medieval madness, those other ones are starting to drop. Yeah, Attack from Mars was, what, number seven we talked about last week? Seven or eight, yep. Twilight Zone, I think, is out of the top. It might be six now. Monster Bash is like number seven.
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    Some of these new games are really starting to take hold in the community, I think. So it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But anyways, that led Ian and I talking about all of Keith Allen's designs, all three of them. And we thought it'd be fun to talk a little bit about them and put them in a top three.
    40:04
    Let's do it. Top three. Do we have music for any kind of top? Top five intro. Hit it.
    40:14
    And now it's time for everyone's favorite top five. It's three. Top three. We don't have a top three.
    40:29
    Keith Allen only made three games, so let's talk about the three games, shall we? When he makes his fifth game in like a year, we'll be calling it Keith Allen top five. five okay but right now it's gonna be top three okay so let's start with number three drew what's your number three keith ellen game and why did it hit number three so this is just overall i think so okay we didn't really talk about that i didn't write anything down well i i have a lot of thoughts on it so uh you know all three of his games are great um it's hard to find fault with any of them tequila but uh you know unfortunately and it's it's because of the theme and you guys know where i'm going with this iron maiden you know because if we're just talking about pinball fun and shots it might be a different it might be a different ball game but just just overall package yeah everything i'm gonna have to go with uh iron maine's my number three iron maiden number three what's your number three well that's a good thing though right because that was his first game Yes, it was his first game. So it means he's getting better. And I don't – well, but like I said, the shots are great. The game plays great. The rules are great. The art is fantastic.
    41:48
    The theme isn't bad. I like the theme. I don't even like Iron Maiden. I just like the theme. Yeah, it's a cool pinball theme. Bad-ass artwork. Iron Maiden is a fine band, and I like the music okay. I'm not like a diehard. It's a good pinball band. stuff it is it's i owned one for a while and i don't really like it so there you go number three yeah my number three iron maiden uh much of the same reasons um but i will say this iron maiden is my favorite dare i say shooter out of the three i really like the shots of it um the reason why it's my number three though is that's about all it really has going for it i didn't really care for the animations i didn't really like the fact that there wasn't really a solid toy or mech in there to really stand it apart from the other two if you put them right next to each other um iron maiden although extremely fun to play and it's fast and it is it is one of my favorite all-time shooters bar none i think it's one of the fastest and most satisfying when you hit that inner loop a bunch of times i mean he does it kind of got he's got it down on avengers but it's it's faster on iron main but for the reason i just stated the the lack of the toys the innovation um i'm gonna have to say uh that's it's too bad so number three but a great game fantastic game one of my favorites and if it would have had a favorite to shoot knockout theme you know maybe it would have been number one in a lot of people's minds i still would have like to see some sort of mech in there come on ryan c ryan c says johnny average art we're picking on johnny crap he had assets he had to work with what was that a coloring book dino adventureland coloring book i have colored those fucking dinosaurs before johnny oh my god i own that coloring book don't that side art was a coloring book i swear to god and that bad class go ahead keep going what's your number two buddy number two uh you know now we're we're really stuck with two really great games yeah what do you like better avengers or jurassic park and once again there's why do we do this to ourselves you know you flip a coin and just piss off people yeah you flip a coin and you're not wrong and it's really hard because avengers is the new shiny i get it it's it's brand new it's it hasn't been played as much so you know but yeah jurassic park you know solid game solid shooter i own it i have owned it for a while i don't know if it's leaving soon it may but right now it's staying so um it's another keith allen design that there's nothing wrong with it so number two jurassic park yeah so he is getting better for you he is every game he just gets a little better i know that's why i'm waiting for him to pull out like the futurama or the you know all you care about is futurama you don't care about yeah you're right i'm just i'm just china will be your first collector's edition huh what do you think oh le all the way yeah i would i'd buy that in a second yeah le um okay so my number two would be avengers gasp oh no why um i think because you like the art better on um jurassic park no not true not true i i based it solely on yeah avengers by far way prettier than jurassic park but i am basing this solely on the shots um the shots were really really good on avengers and they were an improvement they did remind me a bit of one of my favorite shooters of all time iron maiden they improved on those shots however iron man's really your favorite shooter of all time it's one of them yeah it's so much fun to shoot yeah um but i gotta say jurassic park is different than those other two and i got to give it a lot of props for that so you do you have more fun shooting jurassic park than you do it's different and i like that about it okay i like that no it is he actually went a really bold direction i think with jurassic park because when i look at avengers and then when i think back at all the time i put on iron maiden i feel like okay i can't understand what you know his kind of goal is on these games um but dress park was a little bit out of left field and i really appreciated that so um so i would say my number two is avengers nothing to do with the art package nothing to do with the code uh all i had to do with was the shots and um shit what else um can you can you see this yep i gotta scroll down on chat but the uh but yeah that's that's that's where i'm going so drastic uh no sorry avengers number two okay so then avengers is obviously my number one and it's it's tough because you know i could easily sell jurassic park and get an avengers right you could but i don't know if i'm doing that yeah would you be more willing to sell your teenage well ninja turtles i have gone on record and i still maintain this you know if i would have waited a few more weeks even i would have saw avengers and i would have i would own an avengers premium right now instead of turtles okay but that doesn't mean i'm gonna yeah just selling get one because since i missed out on avengers and and you can't get them now until like the new year anyways right so i'll sit and wait to see what stern has next okay but with that being said you know and now i'm playing a pro and it's great which is awesome so i get a pro for a month or so yeah and um no that that game it speaks to me you know yeah the themes are up your alley yep it's up the themes up my alley you know i'm getting spider-man now so that's going to kind of quench that superhero thirst for me it might hurt you well it hurts yeah spider-man it might make it make it worse but uh but i've also like i said i do learn a little bit more patience every time like it doesn't seem that way but i wait another week or two more weeks or three you know what i mean right so it's like in the past it was like okay tomorrow i'm getting this you know the new thing whatever it is and and i just can't keep doing that because you know I lose too much money that way. Well, obviously my number one is Jurassic Park. Because of the art? I like the theme better. I hate the art. You like the theme better? I like the theme better than Avengers, absolutely. Okay. You like Dino Adventureland better than Avengers? I don't like the fact that they fucked the theme up. So Avengers Adventureland or Dino Adventureland? Dinosaurs. We can't use Iron Man's likeness, so we have this tin can. we can't use thors likeness so we have this hammer yes exactly uh you know what whatever dude i i i just appreciate your ask park i mean i was playing them back and forth it's so close you can go it is you can't go wrong with either one and toys and gimmicks the i like the t-rex the t-rex well he's one of the best in pinball i mean yeah and the way you got it set up with that subwoofer whoever's playing next to you oh my god you get a little dick dribble every time he roars because the whole fucking floor shakes the room shakes the room literally shakes between the subwoofer and the little dick dribble uh this falls right in the motor it's it's pretty wild yeah i was not sorry let's get into some let's get into some chat for real now okay i'm gonna scroll all the way up not all the way up all right can we make another cocktail just steal orbeez yeah can you Give me a beer. Sure. Yeah, it's Black Fridge. I'll read this out loud as loud as I can, okay? I'll be right here. Just steal Orby's top three intro and change the words. Oh, I forgot he does a top three now over at the Pinball Network. Drew. We took his five, and now we're taking his three. Oh, that's rough, guys. That's rough.
    49:36
    Top three, top five, doesn't matter. Thanks, buddy. Top three and a half. But she can break two billion on Shadow. Or are you talking about Jesse J? I'll put it together.
    49:53
    I want to see a top one list. Kaz, we've gone back and forth. We have a few top one lists. You want some tequila in there, buddy?
    50:04
    Yeah, you do. Does an emu shit in the heartland of Australia? T.W. Twartz. Iron Maiden over is better than Jurassic Park. Ooh, strong words. Who said that? Twart? Twart. Tim, I can't argue that. Like I said, we're arguing about the dumbest thing in the world because if you own any one of these three games, you're going to be happy. I have pseudo-owned all three of them, and I like them all. Glenn, Jurassic Park is greater than Maiden. Lies Going back to Tim Alright, let's see, what do we got? Jaeger, Ryan C. Well, most of us are drunk since it isn't lunchtime in the USA And we can't handle 1.5 times, lol Do you guys count Archer from Elowen? Yeah, we do, it's called Iron Maiden Too late Let's see here, what else? Archer is basically Maiden Hard to count it the same Plus it sucks shooting Oh no, alright Wow, strong takes from Kaz Is it too early to rank these two? Which two? I don't know, Glenn. Oh, I think you're talking about us. Nope, rank away. I don't care.
    51:20
    He's better at pinball knowledge than I am. I just sit here and drink and do the tech stuff. Well, with the last name Crap, what did you expect? Ooh, Kaz, yeah, Johnny Crap. I wish we could have that guy on our show. I'd rather not. I don't know what I'd say to him. so bro did you get that coloring book at walworth in the 80s because that's where i got mine the guy is that archer actually playable somewhere or was it just a prototype for main i thought yeah it was like they had it it was his homebrew yeah it was his homebrew his brother worked on that for there's no way maiden is better than jurassic park tim lee is trying to start fights yeah tim lee's a very nice man but once again if if if you give maiden like this you know i said a super great theme is that game just goes down as one of the best games of all time i'm sorry what you're talking to me i'm talking to whoever's listening all right does anyone any does any game no hey that's not true simpsons has been around for like two years yeah that's true so simpsons has been around a long time uh g4 selene gs g4 s oline uh he's kept pocket pinball little pocket pinball action i play that daily twice sometimes yeah i usually silver tequila i know i'd go tequila i know he'd go kessler so that's really easy i don't know this this 1800s tasting really good today we all know they will pick kessler's not i like tequila sell sell sell sell sell sell yeah my dress park sold in a day no they're talking about our Jurassic Park. Sell that Jurassic Park. Sell, sell, sell. Get it out of the house. Like I said, I think Batter Turtles is going to go out. I'll get something, but I'm waiting for something like Sell all three and buy a GNRCE. Christ. Tony Scoots, I love it, man. That's like fucking total pandemonium right there. I don't know if I mixed this.
    53:24
    You know, like I said, I'm being patient. You know, a Toy Story, maybe. If they can really get that done. Jesse J. Ryan C. You can't replace me. Just like Highlander, there can only be one. Ooh, Jesse J.
    53:38
    Drew's buying it. Yeah, totally. Drew's buying it. Why do we always think he's not going to buy this shit? He's going to buy this shit.
    53:47
    I come in every week. I'm like, guess what I bought? Guess what I bought? Welcome to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast, where Drew buys another premium machine. Man, this is almost disappointing. They sound like a real pinball podcast today. Oh! Oh, you know what? We need to copy that one to one of our reviews. Drew is a superhero. Tony Spitz. Oh, thanks, Tony. Highlander versus Ryan C. Shit, theme pole. All right. Drew, drink up. All right, let's see. Emily and Dr. John, a few more cocktails and things should heat up. Oh, they want things to heat up. I thought we were pretty good. Yeah, come on, guys. We're doing okay here. I don't have too many more stories about emus, so we're going to have to fucking work on this. So wait, wait, wait. I just want to stop you guys for a second here. We talked him off. He will get mad. No, I was about to say that. So, okay. So we start this thing, and we start it very seriously. And we're having some fun. We're drinking. But we're like, okay, we're going to get these interviews, and we're going to do some research, and we're going to do notes. And Ian gives me shit about not doing notes. And then what do you guys say? Fuck the notes. Drink as much as you possibly can and talk about emus. like that that's the formula and then all of a sudden your your listenership and your viewership just goes through the roof i love it i fucking love it well we we do like pinball that's the problem i know i like to talk yeah yeah that's not a sham guys i play pinball every fucking day and i even some early on ian was like dude him and his him and my wife both said they're like you guys are gonna you're gonna drop this pinball thing like after a while right remember that my wife because i have dropped a lot of hobbies and uh they're like you're gonna drop this and then after like a year and a half my wife's like you're not dropping this thing are you and i'm like it's going nowhere oh man and here we are what four years later four and it's roughly four years what since we've been in the pinball yeah about four years and um no i've never been in a hobby this deep and uh ever since this podcast like now and even you know we're talking about the strain on our time and stuff. And last week I told Ian, I said, Hey, you know, we could just do this every other week. And without even skipping a beat, he's like, no, this is so much fun. We're doing this every, we're going to do this eight times a week. What keeps me sane. And, uh, I, I love him for it. Cause it's, it's great. So anyways, we're, we're here to stay folks. That's the point.
    56:17
    Plus there's plenty of times to get crazy and shit. So what else we got today, Drew? Um, actually that was, Oh, that was it. Yeah. We didn't, I mean, We have our mailbag and stuff, but, well, like I said, I mean, in the pinball land, there wasn't a whole lot. Pause that. Yep.
    56:34
    Oh, shit. Keeps doing that. Yeah, there was some stuff, wasn't there? We're missing some shit. Hold on. We need a shot. Yeah. So, Emoto. Did you guys see what we posted with Emoto Arcade? Yeah. There's that.
    56:51
    So, her Kickstarter just came up. on her um this is super cool i'm excited i hope she can get this off the ground because this is up my alley so i don't know do you know what the name of this is arcade dreams arcade dreams thank you yeah thank you yeah she wants to do uh it's like a docuseries i think yeah about all the different arcades around the world she's traveled all around the world to look at these arcades but i know she's been doing this games i know she's been doing this for a long time but um she's working on basically um i'm gonna call it a docuseries i don't know if that's right yeah it's a series of documentaries that um is it all sega or is it just okay no the first what episode is going to be like sega oh okay i think she's going to go to all sorts of different places and whatever they have they have but is she gonna interview kaneda i hope so about neo geos and candy cabs well he knows everything about it He does. He is the Neo Geo expert, I would say. Well, he knows everything about Japan, too. Canada. Are you here? Canada? Canada? No, he's taking a week off because he had to let all of his viewers know. He's never been in our chat, either. Yeah, that's the first time. Oh, yeah, and then he left. That's good. We don't need you, Canada. Anyway, so Emoto Harney. Let's go back to Emoto. Because we love Emoto. Emoto is a friend of the show, and she is... I don't know if you've ever met her in real life. We have not. We've only experienced her via emails, but she is an incredibly lovely person. She seems like a cartoon character in real life. I love her for that. You know what I mean? Her personality just seems so vibrant. Amazing. Yeah. She is. Yeah. She is. So I'm happy to push her shit. I will be supporting the Kickstarter.
    58:42
    Emoto, you'll get $5 from the poor man. No problem I double that because everyone always thinks I a rich man so I make it 10 I kidding No we throw some money at you though but we believe in the project and we believe in Emoto I tell you what Hey guys all you guys who are going to give us bits today give that money to the Kickstarter Go to the Poor Man's Pinball fan page. So that's 15 cents to you, Emoto, 15 cents. Thank you, Emoto. We're trying to do something good here. Kickstarter, baby. Yeah, there's a link there. Go to Kickstarter, Arcade Dreams. This thing looks freaking awesome. I can't oh wouldn't that be cool to see it on like Netflix oh it would be great if we could see a moto harney on that I would like to get an interview though yes a moto I'd like to see us on Netflix oh my god a moto we need you on our show I just want to take a look at my arcade here I want to be on Netflix so I can say butthole on Netflix you get to look at the the world's only seven thousand dollar laser war one of the rarest games in existence only can't find it to the $5,000 Raven. I think I'm going to get Mirror Blades on this thing finally. It's happening. It needs Mirror Blades. I wonder... Those won't fit.
    59:55
    That's what we wanted to talk about. Emoto Harney and Arcade Dreams. Definitely. Check it out. It seems like a really cool thing. She had like 16 Gs already. What was her goal? 25? Yep. Something like that.
    60:08
    Donate your 15 cents of bits and we'll see where we can get It's probably like a minimum donation of a dollar. And our listeners are like, oh, sorry.
    60:18
    Can't help you. All right, so that's a moto. All right, so what else we got? We have, let's go into our mail call because there's some interesting things in there. Glenn, I'm looking at you, buddy.
    60:34
    Eddie! Mail call! All right, so we got a special mail call today. We had a lot of good stuff this week. One of my favorite pieces was from Jessie J. She sends us these reaction videos. And she sent us a laugh, basically a laugh track. Her just losing her shit during the Great Emu War.
    60:59
    It made my whole week. So, Jessie, thank you very much. and uh what are you doing drew i'm gonna find it i was gonna he's gonna try to play it for you um so that was incredible uh and then um we got some good emails um some pretty lame emails and we got this one that rises above the cream always rises to the top on this show andrew do you got it here buddy or keep talking i could keep talking so you guys want to hear a dad joke I have a pencil with two erasers it has no point did I do it?
    61:43
    okay and some memes about the great emu war of 1932 in Australia what you guys need to do right now a guy is choking in emu now that I see that I don't care it's funny when you say he's choking and there's emu photoshopped like artillery I mean, the emus are great. I should have probably set that up. So what was happening there was I was explaining to our podcast listeners, because I said, like, a lot of times we put this funny stuff on, and they can't see what we're doing because they're listening to us in the car. So I'm explaining the pictures, and obviously we can't hear her at the time. She's at home laughing her ass off, and then she sends us these reaction videos. And, Jesse J., we love them. Keep them coming. They're great. We're actually going to add, without your permission, we're going to add your laugh track into our repertoire here. Drew keeps saying this is going to be hilarious. I'm not so sure. Well, anytime we need something that's funny, or maybe I'll tell a joke that you think is not funny, and then I'll hit the laugh track button. That's what's going to happen. Let's just go into this. Very cool. Yes, thank you, Jesse. That made our week. All right, so we're going to go into the cream that rises to the top this week, and that was... That sounds dirty. We got another email.
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    We got another audio. Can you say that? I'm burping up tequila here. Yeah, I just said it. So, Pinbot. Remember the bride of Pinbot? Yeah. They were having sex on our show. They were fornicating on our show. During Love Letters. Do you remember that? I do. That was a few months ago.
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    We've had... Yeah, go ahead. Pinbot's back. Is this Pinbot 2.0 then? Oh, it's no use. I can't seem to finish. My tilt's too tight. My lids are unlevel. I've got blue bolts. If only I had a tech to come service me. After all, I am just a machine and I cannot service myself. I've heard there's an Aussie with a taste for male figure pinball machines But alas, I could never be a bump Besides, she's already in love with Alec Baldwin Maybe American pinball service expert Dave Brennan could help me But no, these days he's only into the new shinies It's no use, I'm just an old, overlooked, beaten down pinball machine Who could ever love me?
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    Talk about trending down Wait, I know who I need Yes, poor man Drew Oh, Drew. Drew, let me set the mood.
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    Drew? Yes, you. I've got my visor down and I'm thinking of you. Close your eyes. I need you to come over here and drain my balls.
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    I've been thinking of you. I have waxed my playfield. Oh, Drew, I love your beautiful red face. Drew, let me straddle you.
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    Now lift me up with your back and play with my leg levers. Oh, oh, oh. Now polish my glass, Drew. Use as much Windex as you want until I go listen Like the morning dew Now come at me with hungry hands Open my service door, Drew And jostle my coin box Gently Crudel my plumbob While slowly taking out one quarter At a time Grab my plug, grab my plug Hold on it. Now slap save me. Slap save me harder. Drew, slap save me. Now tweak my flitter buttons. Twist. Squeeze harder. Twist. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-jackpot.
    66:50
    Oh, Drew. I'm sorry it ended so quickly. I'm not a lord of the rings I can see this relationship isn't working Do you have Ryan C's phone number?
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    Goodbye forever Alright, so that was... I need a cigarette after that one. Oh my god. Holy shit. That was another one. Did you listen to that before? No, that was the first time we listened. We try not to listen to it. No, because it makes the reaction real. Because you had no idea. We never know what it is. Somebody could put some really nasty stuff on there. Good thing they didn't this time. Yeah, good thing that was clean. Very clean. Very, very tasteful. Very tasteful. Use as much Windex as you want. Oh, my God. Fucking awesome. I have no words.
    67:46
    That was one of the best love letters. That was the best. Yeah, we've had a couple of good giggling ones where we've done, and we've made each other laugh, but that was probably the best love letter.
    67:58
    Easily. Thanks, Glenn. Thank you. Glenn, I'm waiting for like the – Here's what I want to know. Is your wife in the room when you're recording that? His kids are next door. What is he doing? What's Dad doing?
    68:16
    He's playing pinball. Thank you. That was worth the price. The blood rushed all to my face. That was worth the price of admission. Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay.
    68:29
    I collect myself. I finished. Done. Thanks, Glenn. That took my breath away. That was pretty damn awesome. Let's get the...
    68:50
    All right. so true yeah should we call it we should call it hey you know what i'd say this is a very successful first shot at twitch yeah we did okay not bad i appreciate it i thank you everyone for listening um let's see here uh glad i'm crying let's go back to so yeah let's do some of these oh my god yeah i was watching them populate as uh let's go back to some of the that's what we can do we'll hit up chat here one bit uh let's see here you should drop it you stink let's see although she does sing the words all right hold on hold on drew you're rich with booze that's true that's true okay so here we go uh jesse j ha ha ha oh my god uh drew been distracted what are you complaining about now hold on stop sending nitpicks who's sending someone nitpicks uh let's see here maybe i'm not here yet um oh jesus obviously easily entertained jesse j amazing oh did you send an email about shitting yourself again i don't know what you're talking about billy yj uh love you buttholes uh thanks jesse um let's see pin butts can i turn your bolts yes my tilt is too tight Tony Scoots Jesse J just cracking up I'm going to use that Glenn this is awesome yes Glenn it was awesome I'll never look at Pinbot the same again yes Pinbot Tony Scoots laughing this is awesome oh my fucking god yes Jesse this is happening holy fuck coughing fit from laughing myself as well Mike Williams Ian's got the vapors I was losing it That's funny as fuck. Billy, or BJ Boxey. Let's see. Where is this laugh track? LOL.
    70:42
    Wow. Ian. Bunch of smiley faces. Yes, Jesse. I was losing. Ian is blushing. I was dying, guys. It was too much. That tequila is beating things up, or are we blushing? This is Jesse J. live right now. BJ Boxey choking on my drink.
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    Jackpot. Laugh my ass off. I'm excuse. Now repeat this segment in the Neil voice, LOL. Great stuff. Ha, ha, ha. That was the best. Ian is just glad that wasn't about him.
    71:15
    Billy Y.J., you know what? I'm a man that likes a little attention. I feel like Drew's been getting a lot of attention lately. Jesse J. knows all about it. Ian is a little butthurt. We can talk a little about that. I'm not butthurt. I just fuck you, Drew. I hate you. oh man i'm crying awesome work glenn no she was sleeping on the car all right uh that was better for ian than drew's subwoofer little dick dribble never hurt anybody uh great work glenn yes glenn that was amazing oh man glenn your editing skills are off the charts yeah it always makes us look so bad glenn it makes us look bad all the time because glenn is very talented he has a lot of uh he does our intro so he can play you know guitar like a fucking madman he sent us some cool uh clips of him playing guitar he's just an ultra talented dude he's also talented he's super creative and then but he's got a great sense of humor yeah he he doesn't like the limelight that's where ian and i come in we love the attention yeah we just we're attention whores but have no talent yes we just come on the air like look at me look at me we're drunk you see and and glenn like i said he does all this great stuff so you know once again just real quick not to get too sappy and sentimental yeah glenn and martin listener 15 and billy yj pete quint you know these are guys that do a lot of stuff behind the scenes that you guys don't always see they're the poor men team so we appreciate him tim lee even helping out a lot with the uh the podcast page even though tim lee admits to nothing and he hates everything especially you drew and you can't play football yeah pinball him and i talk three times a week now jesse j uh you just don't get the nips out enough you know that's totally true jesse that's fair enough i don't uh now that's it now now's your time to shine that's my new signature love uh love your work he had fuck you drew thanks bj moxie i appreciate also just a spectacularly nice guy our glenn five seven zero yes glenn is amazing so we love glenn all right so anyway we're gonna wrap it up for real now all right so what should we do they should like us on facebook on facebook thank you uh like us on facebook um follow us on twitter yeah the porn is pinball podcast poor man's Bimbo Podcast.
    73:41
    Follow us on Twitch. Guys, follow us on Twitch because it's going to help us grow this thing. We want to be bigger than Jack Danger. And we're going to be bigger than somebody. I don't know yet. There's a lady who crochets on this thing, and she's got, like, 570 followers. So I want to beat that bitch.
    74:01
    So that's her. We're going to take a crochet. That's a whole other show. We'll talk about that next show. So, but, yeah, so follow us on Twitch so you know when we go live. This is a lot of fun. I was worried about chat not being there as much because it is easier to go on Facebook. I understand that, everybody. But I appreciate all this. Let's look at some numbers here real quick. So we had 54 followers, 21 viewers. We had 128 views already.
    74:28
    So just a killer amount, guys. So we really appreciate all the love. And Ryan C., thank you for joining us today. Yeah, and Ryan C. showed up for a bit, and he said, fuck this, I'm out. I was going to say, now in the next episode, he's going to say, yep, I came, I saw, I don't get what it's all about. I don't get it.
    74:47
    What was it that they were talking about on their show? He didn't believe we existed, or he didn't acknowledge us. He's a cunt. Ryan C. What? I'm on you, sir. What? Who says that? Who dropped that hard C? All right, so actually on the bottom there, you see. All right, so we got the program spin ball on Twitter.
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    email us at poormanspinball at gmail.com guys emails emails emails we will read them on the air we uh we get we get some every week but we'd like more yep youtube poorman spinball podcast we usually try to say this and that's where we keep all of our shows we'll try to do some vod i think they call it video on demand you know what brother all right so i appreciate everybody for listening to us uh again i want to thank our sponsors zen studios flipping out pinball oh you know what flipping out gave me here hold on i'll show you what our awesome sponsors gave me just because Not sponsors. Nicole sent these to us. Zach didn't know. Zach was yelling at her. He's like, oh, we can't afford this. Don't send it to them. And she's like, nope, they've been so helpful. This one's super cool. They sent this to Ian. And then I got a awesome Deadpool one for my game room. Ooh, it smells like new banner. I love it. That's Comic Edition Star Wars pinball. Super cool.
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    Thank you, Nicole, so much. We appreciate it. Flippin' Out Pinball. Yeah, Flippin' Out Pinball. Buy your new shinies from them.
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    I wonder what's inside a buckle I always wonder The views expressed on this podcast don't necessarily reflect the views of our sponsors.
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    Obviously, they don't really care as much as we do about buttholes and what's inside them. So thanks for listening, guys. Have a great day. Bye-bye.