Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. His name is Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. No broomstickss, wands or glasses in this episode. Just pure good old Classic Pinball. I'd like to do a little cleanup from our last episode. It has been pointed out that we begin thoughts or topics and then we don't finish them or talk about them again or get back to them. Gary Shandling. So I'm going to go back to Allentown and talk about a game I brought up but we never got to the game you introduced me to. And the game was Supersonic. Do you remember I was talking about the sound package somebody included in that game? Yes, yup, I do. And do you know what game we forgot to talk about in our last episode? Uh, I do not. Do tell please. Does bowling have... something that might remind you? Sounds familiar. Oh, come on. You dragged me over to the strikes and spares the bally game and said hey you gotta hear this. Oh that one. Oh, yeah that one So I'm gonna put you on the spot Can you describe Yeah, kinda Yes so colorful, how's that colorful it has like a Michigan Pinball Psychology här esperando mapney I couldn't find anything on it. It probably does exist, but if somebody knows something about it, certainly contact either Dave or I and we'd like to hear a little bit more about it. Or I would anyway. He did a simple thing like it's a Chuck Webster did the same thing years ago to I believe a Rolling Stones or some other game he's done a wave trigger. So you hook up this little circuit board and an external speaker in the game and you attach wires to add on wires to different switches in the game. So it does its original valley code, put a sound out or whatever and then in parallel it does, it hits a wave trigger for different sounds, he's prerecorded for different things in the game. So it's pretty, you know, you got a couple hours or maybe half a day, it's a pretty easy thing to do. It was good. We also talked, I know we talked about this, this is kind of a minor point. We talked about the game Battle Station, that head-to-head game. Yeah. But the one thing we didn't tell people is who won. And if you recall, we looked at each other and said who won. We don't know. We didn't figure out who won. No, I couldn't figure out who won. So maybe that should be a little bit more apparent. But he did tell us, I don't know if I said this in the last episode. There's a lot of different things to be heard about the last episode. He might start making them and he thought the price point might be around 7,000 bucks. You'll probably get it. I think it needs more animation to show who actually won. Like in Missile Command when you lose the game it goes the end and a big huge explosion happens. Oh so you think like a light show on the loser gets like the big blow up? Well, an explosion light show on the loser side to really hammer the point home who lost would be good. Or a celebratory fireworks side on the sky. How about both? Or both. There you go. You know, the celebratory song, whatever that is, I'm sure you could come up with one. Right, or maybe green lights for the guy who won and red lights for the guy who lost. I don't know. I'm going to cut. Now, you remember this. No, you won't remember this. I'll write it down. I want to talk about green lights, but you'll understand when we get to it. Okay. All right. Sure. One more thing. I think this was a private conversation, but you remember me saying to you, oh, you know what rat think is. It's rat finger. I N K not stink. St I am. Okay. I've heard the term, but I don't remember what it's for. Okay. You were born in what year? N公pad enamお願い XML harperlle Alleka I know i talked about location when Chanel I had one of this or Harper it was based on nineteen PT wa 묠 are called the beatnik band though under people know but gave justice is a little too young i was said uh... you're want you know do it regarding no water sector doesn't work I know what a mood ring is. Yeah, and you know what a pet rock is. We're not going down that road. Anyway, so with that all said, that's kind of my preamble, get things going here. I have a lot of other stuff, but I want to get to you because we haven't recorded, I think it's been five or six weeks and you forget what you record, but I know you will have some new songs. I know you will have some new stories. So what's up, Doc? What's up doc? I'll tell you what's up doc. Yeah, a whole bunch of stuff a lot as well as some tech tips and some gripping drama, but all outside and saying What did I do now or what did this game do now? So we can start out with a Williams blackout Which don't really see many of these on site? 1980 This guy is down the Cape. It's one of our Cape Cod things. Actually, we are number one on the Cape right now for servicing in-home games, so that's kind of exciting. Everybody around the world, not in the United States, is going, excuse me, huh? Cape Cod? You know where Cape Cod is. Everybody knows that. It's like Monterey of the East Coast, you know. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Hyannis, where the Kennedys are. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Enough of the travel. Get back to the story. So Blackout. Williams Blackout. So this guy was on a tight budget. He said, oh, the game just, I want it done for my kids. My grandkids are coming over soon. Can you get over here soon to do it? He's like, yeah, I can schedule some time for you. Get some other people down the Cape. Oh, I can do it all together. You know, around the same week or whatever. So he said, yeah, just the, it just won't kick out a ball. I said, well, the whole game boots up, right? You're having displays, you can see scores, there's lights flashing in the field. It's like, okay, the game's booting. It probably is, you know, quote unquote, just a fuse. Yeah, of course, if it's just a fuse, what made the fuse blow? But he said he wanted to keep, you know, instead of doing my day spot thing, he said, no, no, no, I don't want to do that. I just want to, you know, keep it, you know, and I said, what's your budget? He told me, okay, I can probably do it for that budget, but it's going to be minimal. I'm not going to go crazy on it. And if something else breaks on it, well, that's going to be additional service call if you want to play it that way. So he said it's fine with him. So went there, turned it on while he was right there in front of turn it on. And I got babushka. I got no boot up. So the first thing the game is booting. Well, it was like, well, it ain't now. So I said, OK. So then I received all the connect. You had all original boards, received all the connectors on the original MPU driver board and then turn it on. And it came up. It's like, okay, well, still, that- Don't you wish you did that with my Xenon? Yeah, that'd be nice. But usually if you do that, that means it's gonna probably come back. Anyway, sorry. Yeah, that's all right. And so then I said, okay, your power supply is old as a problem. I put my new rebuilt one in there, and everything came up great. And I said, okay, and then, but now I have no left flipper. And he goes, well, that never happened before. It's like, huh, that's weird. Alright, well you know what? I'm gonna put this, and this was actually my first instance where I got to, you know, use a cheaper solution for an all-in-one board, and I found the latest all-in-one board that gives, unfortunately it's giving Andrew a little bit of Weebly, a little bit of competition as well. Okay, stop. So you have found a competitor board to Weebly. Yes. 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But otherwise, How to fight for Lin Stew during 40 hours How to win Game flower Civery So I'm going to play devil's advocate just for a minute. That wouldn't have a bigger appeal to me. I'd rather have all in one solution with all the dip switches on it and not introduce a computer or anything else. A because I don't have a computer. So that wouldn't work for me. But I don't own the game. I'm just being devil's advocate. Here's another thing that bodes well. Now for Andrew's board, it does these things well. If you blow up an IC on it or a transistor or whatever, replaceable. So if you do something on his board, you can actually fix it. This board over here, it's all... One and done. Yeah, SMD components, it's all miniaturized smaller. I think it's more one and done. I think it's more... So that's the difference. You're going to... It's cheaper, but it's more like it might be kind of a throwaway thing. I'm not sure if it's repairable or not. So that's the difference there. So, it all, it all, all what you're trying to look in and do, you know? So, I'm gonna have a basket of both boards in stock, you know, for whatever I need for the circumstance. But I like this board for the, you know, when I gotta keep something under a tight budget, I can still do what I gotta do and still be within the person's budget. Then, so, then I'm trying to figure out, we're pretty much done with the game. The guy didn't want, you know, we're pretty much at the budget limit. And I told the guy, I said, well, we're pretty much right there, but I'm still trying to figure out why this left flipper You know me? No mango Brian,== The Canteoni in 했습니다 glitch landscape, the Toldita file wp, and wct. Let's put his original back in. It's like, even better. I brought two power supplies just in case for redundancy, in case I, in case for some reason the other one blew up or something. So I put in my second rebuild power supply, boom, all the flippers worked. So there's a problem with my rebuilt power supply which caused the problem. Oh wait, so I'm going to stop you with, sorry. So not only is one board bad, the other board is, or the other piece of equipment is bad too? Well, no, the board that I brought, I brought two power supplies just in case and one new all-in-one board. The all-in-one board worked great. My power supply, not so great. That introduced a problem. That introduced a flipper problem, which I actually thought was, I thought I was chasing all around different parts of the game from going from end of stroke switches to, you know, I couldn't find power to the flipper or power to the flipper button. So, okay, well, I'm not getting power. Let's go right back to the source, which is, goes right back to thebach.... A sticker, a license plate thing that says animation. That's interesting. Go in the basement and he's got a really cool open basement. He's got like a roadway thing for his little grandchildren. He's got like about, I don't know, 15 little cars there. And they all go around racing around the basement. A little bit of a course in the basement. Pretty neat. I was thinking of your little cars you have, the metal collection you had for a while back then. You mean like a kiddie car type thing? Yeah, a kiddie car type thing. Like a pedal car? Yeah, a little pedal car, a little push car. That kind of thing. It's got a little course down the basement, kind of go in and out of polls. You know, if I was a kid, I'd say, yeah, I'd love to do that. And so then I see different pictures of different animation pictures and posters everywhere. And then I say, what exactly? You came from California. What do you actually do? I work for Pixar for 40 years. Pixar and Lucasfilm. 40 years in the business? Wow. He worked with George Lucas for Lucasfilm. That's why he knows all. I started talking about, oh, the one with the bunch of birds on a wire. Oh, yeah, you know, okay, yeah, that's one of the early ones. Yeah, so how about the one with the guy inside a snow globe? And they said, oh, yeah, that's a really early one. So that's another really good one. So we were connecting on that level. You know, all that, those would be cars they did and the Incredibles, of course. And then he said the biggest thing that he brought to the, because he was more of a tech guy, I'm a computer tech guy. He brought computer animation into the regular hand-drawn animation because the original Star Wars film, George Lucas was kind of not happy with how when he had to draw in more cells of different TIE fighters coming in, a whole bunch of them, it would make the whole picture get kind of blurry. It would kind of do something that would make everything blurry because it had to have layer on top of layer on top of layer. The I was in an interview and he said that, yeah, I wanted to add in my next, when I did a Star Wars redo, when I actually got to put all the stuff that I wanted to put them out, I couldn't do years ago. And I said to myself, well, why couldn't you do it years ago? Now I know why I couldn't do it years ago. Because now with computerized, you can do whatever you want. Back then you were limited by stacking things up on top of each other. You couldn't get like... What they were trying to do is create depths. But because he used so many objects in the scene, he couldn't create that depth without I print some 1951 printable I'm not talking about the life. Absolutely. Absolutely. It makes sense. Good. That's a good curtain pullback. Yeah. Yeah. So I have a lot more, but you said you want to do one of the things. Well, I can dovetail, but it's to your buddy Andrew, but it's a repair I did as a result of what we did. So I think I can save it because it's on my list of things here. So you continue. We'll do George's. We'll do George's month in the rain. I mean, I was thinking about this before we went on. If you look at the Carl Weathers pattern for the last month since we last recorded, it has rained from Houston to Presque Isle, Maine. It's just been weeks and weeks of rain. So a lot of pinball took place, at least for me. I couldn't go outside. It was like tons So, in terms of, you know, no background, no backyard antics, how's that in the pool? Okay. So, a lot more pinball. A lot more pinball. So, I'll wait. You continue. Okay, let's go to a Bally Star Trek again. This one was in Newton, did a day spar on it, and it hadn't worked in, I don't know, 30 There's a guy named Keith Elwin in Kick, and he's out at Spartan Pinballryw ned閣ambirty. T ind etiquette. What's the name of the pin? The Pinball Association. Oh, I love Pinball. Pinball Regardless is 123, and part of Pinballacceptable. Pinballемон답ar zehn is SMITH andAudeebbiass. Pinball embargo孩子LOL Але Kahwan, andvertheBulachato 95 Undervitex podcast. Pinballodore95 Pparty Date known這個是Pinball acuerdo, Pinballoicient łPrisizo935 Pinball fabricffPSP朝 waterproof.com, 2020xx duplicated. ▪했습니다 P soi-vSR Pul>< uh關係 hypothesiz creator. er siha-eftnipoa. I'm going to go ahead and meet the real owner and then we kind of do the deal but I'm vetted first you know so it's interesting so Valley Star Trek all day and I worked on the guy came down and said wow you you again Maureen and I you two are awesome this game looks great I never looked this good never played this great and I said it's a ground glad I'm glad to have a setup for you so yeah my grandkids are gonna love it and I want to move it down to my house in Woods Hole down near Falmouth it's like well how are you gonna do that it's like well I'm looking We're just going to go down a playfield here that's going through voraciously summarized boxes that are kinda all over 24 seconds long. I got a 20 minutes glitch because I have to give this a rest while watching the likes on Web??? But, yeah, the video time on the communicates page is the same. I'm a bulkhead. It's like, okay, well, I can do that. Even with Maureen and I with that, we'll just take the playfield out, have an empty box. We can probably get down a bulkhead without me having to. I said, do you have anybody there that can help them? Oh yeah, I got some people down there. I got a guy down there that has other guys to help him. I said, okay, we go down there, get the thing out of the car, rent it at Pacifica again. There's a whole nother story with that. I'll get back to that in a second. And because we're going to deliver two games down here at the same time. So we go in the bulkhead and the bulkhead is just a hole in the ground with a little step ladder down below. It's like I ain't it's why I ain't getting down that it's like a just a hole in the ground with a tiny step ladder. You mean like a manhole like with a ladder? Well figure like a bulkhead but don't but don't have any stairs in it and looking down in a hole of a bulkhead without any stairs. But you have like a stairs that go a portable set of stairs that go up against it that you can just put there a portable step ladder thing. I don't feel too safe on that one. Okay, I'm all ears. What did you do? Okay, so I said, what else we got? Well, you could go into the house, alright, let's go see. Go in the house, it's a straight shot down, it's like way better. And I said, okay. Then he brought over two guys, well, a guy and a girl, but the girl was like built, I mean, armed. You were going to say something else, but I get it. Yeah. Stacked. But a good way. With the arms, I didn't hit us. So, uh, so yeah. Going back to fight with her is what you're saying? Exactly. So they brought it down. They're going to set up. Good to go. Um, and and uh, that was that. They it's like, I think it's a guy that is, I don't know, his, his son or something was there and a helper that was there. Stupidittag No, $100 bill ain't gonna do it. And it's like, I don't want to move that thing out of here. No, I'm not. I'm not a moving company. I'm a pinball restoration place. I don't really do... Good try though. Good try though. Like their style. Yeah, $100. Plus, that's not gonna do it. No. No way. No. So that was that one. Then we did a T2 pickup, in-house refresh from Easton, and then delivered that to Chatham. That was interesting. Is that why you're down there? All these deliveries? Oh yeah, deliveries, yep. It's our third weekend down here. I keep getting deliveries and Restorations down here. Has it rained every weekend? It has rained a little bit here and there but it's been some nice days down here. It's been kind of sunny off and on. It's been a little bit of rain but not crappy. A nice air, you know, it's not bad at all. What else? Oh, we delivered that, the nippet. The nippet we had. I was wondering whether you're going to get to this. So you texted me last night, but you were still on site and I'm like, this is going to be late. So we can talk about the two games. You first. All right, well, hold on a second. I'll tell you what I think of it. All right, wait a minute. I know it's an old game. What, 1973 if I read correctly? Yes, it is 73. And just to be proper, here, let me see. I'm going to have 73 as well as he had a space time. This here. Well, I have a story with that and that that's got to do with the green line. Which makes no sense right now. Anybody if I clap, can you hear the class? Yeah. Okay, good. All right. So if I clap, I can hear you to now. Look at that. So let me get this here. Let's see. It's still Friday. Happy days. The weekend comes. My cycle hops ready to race for you. Deep in my Ayers the the AI will find it yeah I police all right well that being said this This gentleman has a really nice place down in Orleans and he has a special happy days section of his game room that he's putting this nippit and putting in the Valley Spacetime which were both on that show. He has a picture of Fonzie playing nippit and there's also another picture of the spacetime as well in the same sort of show. So they replaced the game during the show? Part 1 I a fan of the what do they call it a balligator Yeah the ballygator Oh a ballygator Because ballygator ballygator And you say bally that why I saying it Yeah I a fan of the what do they call it a gator Yeah the balligator Oh a balligator Because what a gator balligator What And you say Bali That why See that George Anyway Were they trying to do the hungry hippos thing? You know, you remember that game? Maybe, you know, maybe. I think you're right. I think you I think you're onto something there, George. Okay. So humor me. Cuz I looked at the mech, I'm like, okay, so this is the whole feature. It's a pretty cool idea. So they have like a bar underneath it, right? Underneath the plastic. And I guess the ops, and rightfully so, I don't think they took into effect the multiball. My guess is that if you sunk the ball in the kickback And you had another ball on the flipper and Ballygator comes out you could hit it with the other ball and smash the plastic and end Ballygator. What do you think? Probably because they did they did create about maybe I don't know ten fifteen twenty of those with that molded thing and Unreliable is they kept breaking like you said so probably I don't know why it would break What I would have done is instead of a plastic I would have made it out of metal or I would have made a metal cage so that anytime you hit it the ball would bounce off some way of making that thing a little bit more indestructible but again we're going back 50 years plastics have developed etc and so forth but I think they could have I think they could have pulled it off and it would have been much better because the way they did now is kind of weird it's kind of pokey well they Well, they did it though. They did. They put the metal bar in there. Right, but it's hokey. The metal bar comes out instead of the whole head. Right. It doesn't look... it's hokey. And it's a big plastic. It could have been really good. It's an ugly piece of 1970s plastic alligator on top. So fast forward. You've got Jurassic Park with, you know, the dinosaur. And, you know, all these modern games with these mechs. They've come a long way. They tried to do something but it just didn't line up in the time in the timeline. Well that thing had a lot of different stuff on it. That had the balligator thing was a unique thing. You can't find parts for it. I had to actually rebuild it with some chime parts. Basically chime grommet parts. That's what actually helped me rebuild that thing so it worked. Really? Yeah because it has little little standoffs on it that have those that for cushioning for shaking the game whatever they call vibration stuff dampening material. So I used, so I cut a couple of chime grommets in half and use those. They fit perfectly for the circumstance. I use that as well as the whole zipper flipper assembly to get that thing right and work right. That's another miracle. The reason why I sold my Medusa. Yeah, it's, it's, there's a lot to get that to run properly. Really take it all apart, clean it, all new parts, but that thing works great now. I'm a fan of the game. I did a bunch of magic erasers on the game, but buffed all the metal in that game. And as soon as we were bringing it in, it was, I had it all wrapped up in, in, you know, clear wrap. And this guy's very, he has a good eye for things. Look at his house. It's spotless in there. Everything's in its spot. So he knows he's very detail oriented kind of guy, which I guess is why he wanted us. It would make sense because we're detail oriented. And I picked it up last winter to, to work on this because they're gone down in Washington all winter. Okay, so, uh, in Washington DC. So, um, I got a brand new glass for it cuz you can't, the glass is a, the stupid, these early 70s valleys. They got the, the hood from a 1947 Buick. You gotta lift up and you don't just slide the glass in. You gotta actually, if you wanna replace this glass, you gotta take apart this glass chrome frame apart. Oh, that's those games? Yeah. Yeah, both of those games. The 73 games are like that. I think 71 to 73 they did that. So it's like having a lid on top of the cabinet with a contained glass. Right. And when you get it, so to work on the game, I mean, you can't, there's little prop rods for that, you know, 47 Buick hood assembly for the glass. And then you've got to lift the playfield up and that is a prop rod. So you have two things propped up there. All kinds of bad things can happen. So what you, any tech, what they do is they take that whole glass chrome assembly off. You can lift it off the game. It's heavy. Lift it off the game and set it down somewhere. Ama Finsbell, King King ookon GunCommans więcej awards Mr. Larry Woodson for cmtnf & Mr. Sw Mission xT solicite Robert Blakeman какие时间 nom dominating threats to the Searsander ng And while we're down there, what did we do? No, then we went down at a different time and worked on the space time. It's a whole other thing. I'll get to that one in a second. Yeah, the space time. So we're down working the space time like a week or two later now. We're down there again. He wants us to, you know, do further work on the space time. And so we did that, did another day spa last night on that one. I had a really weird problem. So did the whole game. I even took the coin I had freshly buffed parts I brought from my shop at home and put all these buffed parts into the game, buffed parts into the coin door, reassembled the coin door, the game was working great, put it all back together, say okay it's all set, looks nice, looks gorgeous, let's hit the start button, I get nothing. Okay, let's try going inside the game and just manually hitting a relay to start the game, nothing, it's dead. Then I start to, okay let me start to manually rotate the score motor assembly, that at least should make it go on a turnover. I got like buzzing and hissing but no movement. What the hell? Then I see this delay relay light kept coming on. It's like a 455 blinker bulb that Valley used back in the day inside all the relays in the bottom of the cabinet as a delay. So the theory is that the circuit would turn on, turn the bulb on, bulb would feel free to join public power functions to welcome everybody on NBA baseball년 vibrato So then I say, okay, I'll call, I'll call Stu, you know, let's phone a friend, right? Write the voicemail. Too late for Stu. I say, man, I could call John Day. Nah, too late for him too. I know Dave, Dave Golden. He likes working on EMs. He usually picks up. Thank God he picked right up. Hey, what's going on? It's like, I get this weird, oh yeah, I have that game too. Okay. I've got this weird problem. It won't, let me see, delay relay. Yeah. Check your front door. Check your slam switch. See if that's closed. Go. When you know it when I took apart the coin door I wrenched that slam switch closed all the time So the game thought it was some that some young twerp Was kicking the door in get a door in so I undid that bang up up and running game was working fine So that was two down the Cape. Now. That's two tech errors. I Introduced but I got out of them. We fixed them anyway, so that's good We did have a nice lunch by the poolside. We got pictures. I actually bought, while I'm down the Cape, I bought this... That's not that house you sent me the picture of. That's where it was. That wasn't a house. That was a compound. That thing was gigantic. There's a lot of money down there. Speaking of money, I bought special for it. We were in Hyannis. I went to this t-shirt shop and that kind of thing. They had towels. I found a towel I had a picture of it in front of the house with the pool. And then I laid on it to have lunch. And then we had a good time. We got to live vicariously for a little bit. I'm not saying I'll never be able to move forward, but we actually can enjoy the view and have some lunch there. In fact, the guy, the caretaker, as we're having lunch there, he came down. There's a lot of cameras out there, I'm sure. He probably saw us having lunch outside. He said he came down. He came down and was like enjoying the view. It's like immensely. Let's see. You know what cicadas are? Do you have them down by you? I know what they are. I have not seen any. Well, down in the Cape, we got a bunch of them. I was wondering, driving to different spots, delivering games, there was a noise coming from the back of the car. It's like, I'm going to stop here, a Brewster or something like that, pull over and get out of the car I'm going to get out of the car and just things in the car is to give her this sound in the car. Rattle, whatever. Get out of the car and say, I hear this sound. Listen to this. Sound of car engine. Like what the hell is this sound? That's what they sound like. And it was deafening. It almost sounded like from Star Trek, a phaser weapon going off. Like, but it was worse than that. So, you're talking about like a 17-year-old? Yeah. Okay. And they are so stupid. They're big and stupid. We're driving down. They started like... Don't they have big red eyes? Yeah. They're hitting the car, bouncing on one side of the...on the passenger side window, just staring the car, looking at us while we're driving. It's like you dumb...it's just food for something. It's just food. It's just like...its purpose is to go up there, make a bunch of noise, attract a mate, get I'm going to get it done, go back on the ground, wait 17 years and do it all over again. And that's about it. That's the first. This is better than dying. They die pretty easily. My sister hates them so much she has a wiffle ball bat and just keeps bashing them on her patio. Bash, bash, bash. Okay, so are we going to get to the other game? The space time? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Okay. Okay. So you sent me a text and I read it quick. I said okay, and I went to look up the games online IPDB. Okay, but I didn't look up space-time I looked up space station That's all different quite a bit different but The reason you brought up the green light In the previous segment you brought up the green light. Yes. Well when you get to I don't know what the hell he's saying, but it's, you know who it is? Who? Steve Ritchie. He did the male voice in that game. Interesting. So, hey, if you haven't told your friends, family, enemies, come to go listen to our Steve Ritchie episode. I will, and especially since I just worked on that T2, I was thinking of him. And you saw the young Steve Ritchie when he was hawking that T2 game way back when. I did. It was very interesting. You're probably going to hear construction now, right? Or no? No, that's good. Oh, good. Okay. Okay, so let's talk about space-time. First off, did you augment the lighting in the tunnels? The No, I left it stock. Okay. Yeah, I didn't do any with that yet. Can you tell me what the deal is with the mystery ball? Boy, I don't know on that one, George. I didn't play it enough. Okay. There's a target on the upper left side. Okay. That has a light. and it says extra ball but it sounded like it just randomly lights sometime during the game. Yeah it does yeah it does every okay I'll tell you that so how does so well I'll tell you how that works okay yeah so basically it's the same thing as nip it uh it's on the zero the zero to 90 unit which is also work for the match unit so it does a randomization so every uh it's like 10 steps Point surface Now, turning on marginal mode is not an option prior to hit pinball. Note that in operation,ances are required to release the game slipped volatility or AutonetMagas' but it does not mean inject the acceltic parole it uses to use. Male JZ bottom, Male JZ Aessel at R JUD Gamed Cam fáли, I like extra balls though. What's that? You're an extra ball fan. Yeah, I just thought it was a cool thing. Anyway, so it's got the kickback in it, it's got the kickouts in it, and then it's got the two gates, which I thought was kind of weird too. And the one thing I observed about both these games, what's the deal with drop targets? Were they like too expensive? Didn't want to do it? Wasn't perfected? I don't know. They had drop targets. That's a good question, Jory. Now you're testing me. Did they have drop targets back then in the early 70s? They must have had them. Yeah, they did have them, but they didn't use them. Nippit didn't have them and neither did this one. No, that's what I'm saying. And that brings me to the game you helped repair, my game, the Blackjack. It's one of the games that doesn't have any drop targets. It's got regular stand-ups, but stationaries. I really like targets. I really like targets. Well, look at bow and arrow, same thing, no drop targets. I think they have a BOM, bill of materials, a budget and say okay, we're going to have this really cute clutched automatic scoring thing like Timetable has that. It's a rotary thing that stops on a certain thing, so that costs money. Nippit had a thing, the balligator, that costs money and the zipper first costs money. I'm sorry boys, you can't do that. Same thing, bow and arrow had a... Yeah, but those games only sold for like six, eight hundred, nine hundred dollars? Well, in those days, that's a lot of money. No, I get it. I'm old. I understand. I'm just saying, you know, how big could your bomb be and, you know, for everybody to make money? A hundred and fifty dollars? Two hundred dollars? They had to draw a line somewhere, I think. No, but I'm saying it doesn't buy much. Even in those dollars, early $70. It's just, it's a different world. It's really hard to go back and compute. True, true. It's like, and I just, like bow and arrow, again, it has the, that scoring thing, the same thing as time tunnel, the same situation. So it would go rotary, rotary, rotary till you hit stop and then it would, it would stop and score. So, one of the few games with the Captain Fantastic had dropped targets. A little older though, now we're moving to... 76, that's 76. Right, but still a couple years late. It's just weird. We'll do some more research on it. It's a good question. Yeah, it's a good question. If I did the research, I'd have the answer, but I didn't do the research. Someone in the audience, I'm sure he knows. I will tell you... Yeah, but our audience, I'll reprimand them. Well, they email you. I didn't check the gmail account because nobody ever emails me so I'm sure you have some reader mail. That's coming up. So do you have another story you want me to tell? I got a story. So we're down here with my mom and she's getting some quotes to get a bathroom done over. And so she uses this company, I'm going to call them Rehash. Alright so and so they're kind of a I don't know you find them everywhere. Yes you do know just say it. Yeah I will know I would say schlocky outfit I'm not professional I don't know they I don't know I just wouldn't use an expensive and tacky and not really cheap material cheap material for a lot of money put it that way. So I was so it was late at night you know we've got in late for a pinball call and this guy comes first thing in the morning PUNCH andersen mus eux Навлиp Erskine och Wim Hanmarij și háb jets Bundestí sulfur más ár háli. contro lesharæ cum CitysNew York사� ат 305.305.805 s dar입니다 avons I was the Chris Hansen coming in. You ever see Chris to catch a predator? Chris Hansen would actually set these people up and this whole in the police whatever. This guy would be, you know, texting some underage girls, whatever, in a chat, which were not underage girls. They were actually a woman police officer. Right. And they're trying to get a little something-something, a little pedophile situation going on. They'd show up at this staged house, and a girl would be there, but she'd be of age, but she'd look younger. I'm gonna go make some cookies. I'll be right back. Right, and then they come in and bust them. No, they don't come in and bust them. She goes away. He's waiting there with some condoms, some liquor, and whatever else he's got in his The because he's talking all day long in a text to her and it is going to be easier already for a real date who comes walking in after she leaves chris hanson ways to take a seat over there now all the cameras come in what do you think you do here sir what do you what's going on to tell us your story and anything that he says over the way you're free to leave he leaves and the cops go wrestle about sign from in the car so i feel like christy because he was all set with a sort of like I'm Chris Hansen, comedian. Why don't you just take a seat? And he goes, oh, God. Why are you here? I burst his balloon because now I'm starting to sing. Yeah, anyway, what else do you guys do? What materials do you use? How much is that? Sounds a little expensive. I don't know. So I just totally popped his balloon and then he left shortly after. I'm Chris Hansen. Okay. Okay, you done? I'm going with that part. You got something I got more but you go. What else you got? Give me something. Okay, we got to go back in time. So you helped repair the xenon and when you were done after cutting all the diodes out, I had to go back in and solder all the diodes. So I did that and because you took the I bought the solenoid driver board from my Paragon. I left the game static so nothing was going to be taken in or out again to you know maybe upset it and I bought a new solenoid driver board. No I did not buy an Andrew but we'll come to him in a minute. So Xenon was buttoned up, repaired, thank you, everything worked great. I get over to the paragon and turn it on and no sound. And I told you about this and I said, you're not going to believe how easy the fix was. And you were like, huh? So the CR3 on that board, which is the dash 50 model, because it was in my paragon. All you had to do was replace an IN4004 or an 07. Yep. Bingo bango. Oh. Sound back. Now, I was prepared to replace all the capacitors, which I did after I had my other board in there fixed. I had another one of these boards, I think it was a Dash 32, but same thing. You know, repaired that up just in case I need it for another game. But in the interim, I was so in haste. Not, I didn't get around to it right away because the Carl Weathers was probably nice. And I bought a weebly from Andrew that goes in both the 50 and the 32. Yes. Yes. So it's good for my Paragon. It's good for my Harlem. It's good for my supersonic. I was like, okay, still in the box. I haven't used it because everything else works. I kind of jumped the gun. I went out and bought it before I repaired anything else and got everything else working. So you repaired the soundboard just with one diode fixed it? One diode fixed it. And how did you find out, how did you find it to fix it? I searched high and low and I can't, I don't, I must have erased it. I can't find where I found it. And the symptom was no sound again? No sound. Okay. Huh. That's a good, that's a nice cheap fix. That's a cheap part. Well, I didn't have to go to the extent of replacing all the other capacitors. There's like, what, five or six different caps you have to put on it. And I'm like, the board works. Let's you know, I'm just going to leave it until it fries. And if it fries, I have the, you know, the Weebly backup. I'll just throw it in and off we go. I mean, that's a great board. Oh, I love his board. His sound boards are awesome. They sound legit. They sound just like it. And very reliable. The older boards, they have ICs on them that you can't Taney Ratt Xingsook, I go but there's this micro little component in between I go nah so I type send him a message he says no that when that fries if you have a problem with you know something and it fries that piece then you put in the fuse that weird it is weird that's weird I don't know what you call the component but when I say it's Mediterranean A service where you get 10 graduate periods with 10 different music choke reserved for you and your professional. This monthly free college extension is available, I think, for customers who participate! Because online tutoring is a fascinating beach,... I believe Monday through Sunday, be it Saturday, Wednesday, or Saturday, or Sunday, you'll have leisure costs. So, think about leaving a link on this website here, and how you are… You don't need any kids or children who might another day. I told you I finally did sell something. Saw a guy online looking for a coin door and a coin box. Sold a, I don't know, it was an okay, not great, for $65 bucks so I was pretty psyched. Well you know what, speaking of coin boxes, I've got a bunch of coin boxes for sale cheap. Anybody looking for coin boxes I your man I got coin boxes Looking to deal Well you sold all the ones the bally ones I got belly ones I get stern ones I got Williams ones Sure so because I replaced a lot of my solenoid driver boards, I found five of them Some working some not but again, I don't want to take a working game and then start putting other stuff in vendor that菜soninclinłącz don't.com pls fine Oscar Ara 67 gcrag povertyного themersismusenglishllenglish at Rhonda Chanceіш ㅋㅋㅋㅋHmshdis pandemicannahanchistles I Am The Thunderrift So that's my tale of some of the stuff I was doing while the Carl Weathers was inclement. How's that? Sounds good. We can do a... how about we do a callback to Groot's Balls? Okay. I'll bite... no, I won't bite. Go ahead. And what is a Groot anyway? Let's ask Daffy Duck and see what he says. Wang On Enjoyable Time I'm a fan of the old one. I used to solder everything from the old one onto the new board, onto the new motor. Did all that. Put that in. That worked great. Now he's talking again. And then he also wanted the power supply fan mod for Stern games because Stern cheaped out again with their power supply fan modification. All these modern Stern games, these Spike 2s, they have a loud fan that comes on. Oh, yes, I have read about this. I'm a fan of the flipper things. Exactly. The flipper fans. Flipper fans. He's a big fan of his fans. A lot of fans there for the fans. Yeah. You got to take it apart a little bit, put the new thing, put a new fan in there. It's like you don't even know what's even on. In fact, it's so quiet, to test it, you're supposed to put it all back together, take I'm going to take a piece of bathroom tissue paper a little bit, put it on top of the power supply. And make sure it blows off. Right. I'm looking at it. It's not blowing off. You could play it for an hour. You don't know. So I closed it all up so it wouldn't be staring me all the light in the face. I played for like 20 minutes hoping the thing got blown off by then. And I took the glass off and the thing was blown off. But I couldn't hear it. It's such a difference. So it's way worth it. You didn't think of putting your camera in there? I'm watching it. No. Okay. Just saying. It wouldn't be able to fit in there. I don't know. Just saying. I didn't want to cause any weird things. I didn't think of that one. Also got a call in Somerville for a hotel there. They're at Aerosmith. And he said, oh, it just has a left flipper. I think it has a left flipper doesn't work issue. It's like, okay, I heard that before. Anybody work on it? No, if it has, it's very new. Does everybody always like make it so, eh, it's not that bad, Dave. Yeah. And don't you feel like saying, well, why the hell you calling me if it's not that bad? Well, they think it's that one problem. I know you got a lot more wrong than that with the game. And I, when it went there- Well, I know that too, but that's, you know, like I've said a couple times already in this episode. I don't temptate. If it works, it's okay that you got all the parts because when it stops working, you go to the parts bin and you start putting the parts in. That's when you start experimenting, not when the game works. I know you don't agree with that, but you do it for a living. You don't wait till the rubber falls off. Yeah, you don't wait till the rubber falls off and all the black rubber falls off. No, I don't mean it that way. I'm just saying if the game breaks, you got the equipment and the parts to fix it. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. What was that even with my lineup too? I've gone and restored all my lineup in my you know, and then if if there's one little light out somewhere, or this, you know, I could rebuild something different and make it even better. It's already like 99% there. It's like, I have other priorities and then make that even though it's running great, I can make it even better. It's like, yeah, low, low priority. I got other things that need to come up instead. So, so I get that part. Part missing a what? Oh, on, you know, on arrow So, on Aerosmith, yes, the flipper was bad. So, I had to rebuild both flippers. The playfield was extremely dirty from all the stupid black rubber that the cheapo stern rubber they use. So, got rid of all that black rubber, cleaned the playfield. I had to scrub the crap out of it. And then I found some other stuff. How do they hold up when you scrub them up? Oh, fine. The playfield comes back great. Okay. You know this too. Know this too. You got to just, you know, hand. No, I'm just saying, they hold up well. Oh yeah, because they're clear-coated. There's a clear on there. Give me my power cord, please. So anyway, so clean the playfield and then I'm noticing there's not enough balls in the game. Like, where are the balls? And I noticed that a bunch of them are in the... You know there's a joke there, right? I know, yeah. It's going to be balls. Bruce Balls. More balls. Love in the elevator speaking of balls. Love in the elevator is the scoop is all wobbly broken. It's just sitting there and not doing its thing. What is love in the elevator? You shoot this. It's a vertical upkick unit. You kind of shoot at it in this little square elevator. It's called Love in the Elevator. That's one of the songs they did. Is it a Vuck? It's a Vuck. They get all Vucked up in there. I'm familiar with the treasure chest. Does this game have the treasure chest? It has the treasure chest, yep. There's a little thing broken. There's a one-way gate that's broken on that too. That was broken off. It doesn't really need it. You kind of shoot that area. The ball dribbles back in there and shoots into the toy box. This game, it shoots in the toy box maybe three out of five times. Sometimes it misses, so it needs a little alignment, but we didn't have... That wasn't really in the scope of work this time around. We just had to get it kind of running and basically because it's in this little game room. I'm a fan of the game room. It's like an 80s game room. So they have like Cyndi Lauper and all that kind of stuff, music in the background. They got a pool table. They got a video game there. They got like an 80s space feel for this under lock and key situation. Music videos going on. And they had this game. So that's what they called me. And so Maureen and I are both working on it. And I found this part. It's like this thing's broken. So what am I going to do? I don't have the – it's a broken weld mount. I can't weld it. I don't have the welding equipment with me. I had to take it out. So I said, you know what, instead of that, what we're going to do, we're just going to take some rubber. We're going to go from here to here. You can't go there anymore. So I just like blocked it off with two rubber rings. It looks stock. The ball bounces off it great. So you don't get love in the elevator anymore. Sorry, no love for you. But everything else worked great. And then I just put it out there for the different parts I needed to make this thing work again. I basically, I contacted Terry Pinball. I said, Terry, do you get these? Can you get these? I'm not sure if I can get those. They're probably made out of unobtainium. I won't be able to get them, but I'll try anyway. This is about a month later. Terry at Pinball Life. This is to get what piece now? The vertical upkick unit. The unwelded piece? The unwelded piece. Get a whole weldment, this whole vertical upkick unit for this particular game. The only unit for this game, I believe, or very few. Oh, the buck? Yeah, it's a whole weld. A buck is not a buck? A buck is not a buck, no. This is a different one. This is a whole different thing to it. This is a specialty vuck. Specialty vuck, yes. They get all vucked up. It's not a standard vuck. It's a vuck in the elevator. You get vucked in the elevator, George. Right, but I'm saying a vuck is not a vuck. In other words, it's not a standard part that they use in all their games. This was a specialty part. Yes, specialty part. Okay, okay, I'm just... Yep, specialty one. So, you can't get anywhere. I could actually go overseas. I found a place, Pinball Parts, Hyungilook Pantormééke Vince Jöfojaer, Bloody Amon Ajbski, Beth T別人 I don't know why you didn't call Grant. Well, I don't know. I figured they have it over there, we can get it over here. Okay, so Terry called you and you got the part. Terry called me and said, okay, I can't believe I actually have these three parts now in stock if you want them. Now the question is, I told this guy the game's running and I can get these parts down the road if you want them, I need to get sign off on him first if he wants to do it. Now he's running the, he's the hotel, I don't know, maintenance guy. You know, I don't really think it's going to be his top priority to spend more money on the game. Because I already went a little bit over budget with him anyway, but he's fine with it. He loved how the game turned out. But, you know, so I got to go back to him and say, hey, I've got these parts now. I can come back for X amount of money and make this thing work again. Are they expensive? More than $200? Yeah, about, yeah, about $200. Okay, okay. So. You're gonna be in for a really long time. If they're unobtainium, just, this is me. Yeah. If they're unobtainium, wouldn't you buy it anyway and just put it on the shelf and at some point in time- And have it? Me, just have it just in case somebody needs it. If they're unobtainium- That's true. I'll just put a scenario together real quick. What do we do then? You decide after two years that you don't want them anymore. Right. You posted out on Pinside that you can't buy these anywhere except here and he ain't sending them to you. You can flush your money and get it back with probably a little bit. That's true. That's true. I don't know. I think you just let the cat out of the bag because now everybody's gonna go Hey, man, I got one of those games. I didn't know you couldn't get that. Maybe I should buy it. Exactly. Sorry. That's the way I work. I'm like if I find something we've talked about this before Don't let it go by. Buy it. Just put it on the shelf and just say you know what? You never know. I got so many things like that, George, that are on the shelf. Right, but you started harvesting them and making money on them. You're like, okay, you know, here's a little, here's a little ducat you might want there, fantastic crowd and, you know, like, you know, like the ravaging Marauders they are, they go after it. Then I gotta remember where I put it. Then I gotta label it and stock it. Well, we've talked about that too. I've already been down the box highway, so I get it. It's more like Raiders of the Lost Ark into the movie for me. It was for me for a while too. I'm looking for something now and I can't find it but I found other things. It's like oh wow I didn't know I had that. So it's always fun. I still have some squawk and talk boards I thought I'd use but I still have them that I bought this guy Geotech or somebody made them. Yeah. I haven't had a chance to use them. I feel like I should sell them off. You know, for ballet games, you know, the 8 Ball Deluxe Fathoms, that kind of thing. I don't know, I even have a Say It Again board that I thought I might need it for Centaur. Did you see that 8 Ball Deluxe Playfield, the used one that was on Pintastic yesterday? For like 150 bucks? You mean Pinside or Pintastic? What did I say? Pintastic. Oh geez. Please, pigeonsCra **** Litute, that is a quant白 walker. Please,changingCómo司 возмintaS techn democrat, NowiŚ,amb sprawdto briana Learn to Jot钃ţŸ luz aspiroapt documented and connect the reading website of landscape Cooking 뉴스 Seöt Synaptica This would be pretty good for $150. So is it okay? Did it go? Did it sell? I don't know. I don't know. There might be something. Well, you know what? Because I am, I just did start my 8 Ball Deluxe Limited Edition Playfield Swap that I do have a, I don't know, it's an old CPR playfield. I got it from somewhere. It's in nice shape. It's got a couple little small imperfections that no one's going to notice. Whoa! froci algumaslogics.ue Inventory Proofreader� Oh, how about a World Cup Soccer in 94 that this guy, an owner, had it forever and he worked on it himself, it works, you know, but he wanted to gift it to the local YMCA in their game room. Their game room consists of, that's a Newton, so it's a nice YMCA. It's got a game room for kids there, all these like little, you know, these things you buy I'm a fan of the video games you can buy from Costco or walmart the little video games you can get to like three oh yeah those half-sized things yeah yeah did we talk about this my neighbor bought one they're kind of junky it's like five or six hundred well they're good if you don't want to spend a lot of money i because i told him i said you know for a thousand bucks you could probably go out and buy you know a multi-cade in you know in a nice cabinet he's like he went out and bought the costco thing they're popular Yeah, because what happens if it goes if it goes south, you're putting that thing on the curb and throwing it away. Right. You know, you're not going to be able to buy a part for it. Yeah, probably not. Or if you do, it's going to be the same price as buying one anyway. So why bother? But the good thing about them is they have all the individual artwork. No, no, I get it. So it works. We had a problem with the display. So we wanted to donate this to them, but he wanted to get it running. It's been there for a couple of weeks. He feels bad it's not running. Can I come out there? And I said, well, yeah, sure. And I think this is the one time where I, a lot of times, 99% of the time, I will actually discuss a budget with somebody. This is the one time I didn't really, I don't think I said much to him. He didn't ask, I didn't say. Usually if you don't ask, you just say okay, then you're willing to spend a reasonable amount of money, whatever that is in someone's mind. But I should have told him ahead of time what I thought it was going to be. But I thought it was going to be cheap anyway because oh, just the display isn't working so I figure loose connection, DMD driver board, DMD, whatever. So, I got it running by, it was a bad cable and that fixed that. But there was so much other wrong with the game, it's like well it needs this, this, this and this. Do you want me to, well while you're here, might as well do that. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. How bad was it? Well, rubbers were all broken and falling apart. No, but how bad was the differential? I'm not going to ask you how much on the show. What was what you were looking for and what he thought it was going to be? Oh, the differential. I'd say it's probably double or triple what he was thinking. OK, I'm on line with you, so, OK. Yeah, yeah. So, right. But there's a solution. What's the solution? Sell it? No, you donated your services to whatchamacallit, Get the receipt and knock it off your taxes. Right. Exactly. I mean, take a bad situation and try to make it a little bit better, not by much. Doesn't put cash in your pocket but... Right. Well he's going to write off the World Cup Soccer anyway. I'm sure he's going to write it off for whatever he paid for it plus my bill. Right. And all together and that's going to be his write off. Right. Right, but you have a write-off because your usual amount is X. So if you can justify your normal amount, what he paid, you take the differential, you write that off. You shouldn't take the hit. Well, I didn't take a hit. I charged the whole thing. Oh. Where's the bell? You don't have your bell. No bell. I don't have the bell. And it needs more work. I said, these other rubbers are crumbling too, but it's like, it's going to take more time to get to those. So I just kind of removed the rubbers and it's going to work without them. I just didn't want the ball to get caught in one, one area where the ball is going to cause I had to replace that one. I just don't want to have the ball trapped anywhere so kids can play the game. But the guy wasn't really thinking what he's doing. It's like he should have donated the game and said, listen, you know, it's on, it's on the YMCA to get it working, to fix it. So he donated. The No, no, they would sell it and take the money and put it somewhere else. I mean if it doesn't work and it's got value Why wouldn't why wouldn't the entity just sell it? Well, cuz it's in the game room But it doesn't work and you don't have the funds to repair it. It goes out the door I mean, it's probably not the right item to put in the game room. It's probably is it's not if the game was all running and restored Yeah, it would be but it's not you know, it works. Okay Okay. But they don't realise what a constant as you see why I'm seeing the guy came that was working on the guy came in so long so and so manager is young guy and so, you know, he was looking at working the game and then so The guy who's involvement gave the games? So I'll get you a coward to him. He's going to be I'm not I'm not going to be responsible for anything with the anymore for this so, giving so I gave the card to him, but when he actually finds out, you know, when he calls me up. Hey so-and-so's don't want to say Meanwhile, It's going to probably be between X and X. It's like, well, that's too much. Well, then you need to sell the game. That's like, what can I do, you know, or or call call Jupiter Pinball or something? That's a wealthy place. And it's that place, a wealthy place. There they have a high end clientele coming that way. It's Dave. But my point is, if something doesn't work, you don't hold on to it and make it a museum piece there. You get rid of it, you take cash and do something else with it. I will say, I will say at least, so this is why I don't do corporate accounts typically. And this is why. Because they have tight budgets, they don't really understand what it takes, they don't, it's like an old arcade. Most people don't, Dave, most people don't. My clientele does. And as you tell people, go ahead, open up the phone book, find somebody else. Go ahead online, find somebody else. You know that the market's limited, and you know your quality of work and your attention to detail is big. Right. Okay, there's your commercial. Thank you Okay anniversary jaws this week 50 years Since the movie came out you're out on Cape Cod. Oh, yeah, my my animal segment you had the insect segment I've got the animal segment your sharks here George The only sharks are in the singles bar The Huge thing since you mentioned Jaws huge thing about his vineyard at this right now Going on is all kinds of stuff going on there all kinds of money to be made with t-shirts The richard Richard Dreyfuss might be there. I think I don't know this was where we might be around Yeah, they're playing that all up all up the 50th anniversary. They're playing up the jaws thing big time over there Amityville, whatever, not horror, but Amityville. That's where the Jaws thing was. Island. Island, yeah. Amity Island. That's what it was based on. Okay, so there was that. So I watched a movie. Yes, I actually did watch a movie. No way. Old. Old, but pertinent. Network. Oh, Network, yeah. If you haven't watched that movie, watch it. If you've heard the Const développement reagora nk.negative canada. Shout out for Action Sportslibert노 bakery.� I'm watching that. That's a fun watch. Robert Duvall, William Holden, Faye Dunaway, and forgive me, I don't know the lead, the guy who played the anchor, some Englishman, Finch, Fitch, something like that. Anyway, good movie. But that leads me to another movie that they're making a pinball machine out of. Tell me whether you care or not. Towering Inferno? No. Predator. FastToPin, Chris subd surrender You know you know humidity for Knapp Arcade. Yeah. That company. That company. Okay. Well, sit back and wait. So you might see one someday. Okay. How's that? We'll wait with bated breath. Okay. So that's our movie segment. Okay. You got your reader mail going? Viewer mail. Yes. Reader mail. Sure do. So this guy Josh reached out from Pinside, said, Hello, Dave. I just picked up a Stargazer and I'm interested in the updated code. I'm going to download it. I'm going to download it. I'm going to download it. I'm going to download it. I'm going to download it. I'm going to download it. I'm going to download it. I'm going to download it. I'm a fan of the animated code that I heard about on your podcast from many moons ago. Can you tell me what code you are running and where I could find it? Thanks. I've been listening to your podcast for years. I play it when I'm out on my runs and I always get excited when a new one is released. I particularly like the individual game episodes and interviews with industry people. So he got me to think it's like where is that code? I looked at my files on my laptop that code isn't there. I know I have it installed in my game. Then I'm thinking back when did I do this code? It was back in 2008 and I did it with Incognito over there and overseas he did a bunch of this stuff where he did custom code. I worked with him on Eight Balls of Lux. We shared some ideas about that years ago and on Centaur and on this game. And then I had Scott a couple years later say, can you tweak the code a little further from what Incognito did to make it so that, because what happened was Stargate, great game, but unfortunately when you start maxing out the bonus, the multiplier, it doesn't go back. It's like goes up to 10 times bonus, but you never lose it. So every ball, if you get 10 times bonus early, you're going to get 10 times bonus for the rest of the game. So I have it set up like in Sea Witch. I had this so that once you max out the bonus it reverts back to like three times or something or two times whatever it is. So I had it so this game can actually revert back to three times bonus to make the game harder. I also had it so that the scoops they don't give you a you can dip switch selectable that you don't score a zodiac target by doing the rollovers. I was just wondering if you could answer the question, where did you get the code for them? Or is there none? There is code, yeah, I got it years ago. I got it so then I started looking in my email files from a long time ago and I found it in there. You actually have those? Oh, I keep all my emails, especially with Yahoo Mail, it keeps it forever, it doesn't go away. They stay I don delete them I don delete anything unless it says you running on storage I don delete anything either but I wish I knew the passwords to put into all those emails Oh that a problem Yeah, that's a problem. Go ahead. Yeah, so found it, sent it off to him. He's like really appreciative, you know, so he's all happy and running. I'm happy too now that I found it. Actually, I copied it over to my files where I keep this stuff because I thought I had it there. Now I have a master file with all that. There you go. I put that in there, so that was good. Good request, Josh. Josh? Yeah. Is that his name, Josh? That's Josh, yes. Okay. You got some more mail? I don't, but I have this other segment. This is Dr. Dave in the News here. I'll play a little intro here. You're the spoiler, young mechanic. Can be a panic with just a good looking pen. You froze. Is it? Yes, it freezes. Oh, it froze. I mean, stop talking. It's your nickel. Who? Disassociated Press. The public has been demanding my life story. Well, I can tell it to you right over the phone. So, what happened there is that I get this guy from Maine who's doing a, um, doing a movie segment on, uh, on entrepreneurs and artists and, uh, people that are craftsmen. And what they do and the day-to-day thing. You've talked about this guy before, right? I don't know if I did. Can you just show me some pictures of some guy that you're like, this is the guy who wants to photograph me and, no? That's a different one. That's a photograph guy. Okay, okay. Good. Yeah, that's a photograph guy. That's a different guy. And come to find out, that's how this movie guy found me because he's friends with the photograph guy. So the photograph guy did some stuff for me and with Maureen. dentistry firefighter şeylerJimalu hes0 Yep Thanks for join the бел cactus token colaboratorystation paranormalsecurity and it's good but it's nothing I can really use per se more pictures of her than of me doing something so you know Maureen's not really that much of a fan of it but you know it's decent enough but not really what I was looking for so this guy wants me to and he showed me what his part of what his movie situation is he showed me different people that he's doing it with and he showed me what they do and so he gave me some I looked on his website and it's really interesting so one woman that's on there is a metal worker and she's a small metal part Gary Cooke, S Premiere, Menchikto W Printing, Mr. Karen Bremen, Kate Wenderson, Eddie Erdo kein, Ken folders, wesney Mao, and Brian킨 Mosick, aka Ariemente and Amber Tanya Mayweather, ididotandallflix, Dave Pedersen, Maite Paddy Fuckia Rodney Leite, 축구無我 Mark Skerritt, Adam Eringa I'm a fan of Space Mission, another fan of Space Mission is Bob, we just had a party for We had a going away party for Bob. Hosted that. Had, you know, cast the nets, you know, try to cast the nets kind of wide and get people and whoever can come showed up and we called him Bobby Two Case because two people brought a cake for him, a going away cake. PJ got a nice mango cake and I think, who else brought a cake? Did Scott bring a cake? Scott. Scott brought a cake. So, yeah, it was a nice, nice, nice crowd. Little cake party. Little cake party instead of a keg party. Yeah, cake instead of cake. Right. Okay. So there is a much rejoicing in the... John Day bought a cake. Yes, that's right. John Day. And Scott. What about the mango cake? Where did that come from? That was from the other party. Okay. There's a lot of cakes going on here. Okay. So you're the cake boss. I'm the cake boss. John Day brought a cake. Scott, my customer who got the firepower and the nine ball from me brought a cake. P.J. brought a cake the other time because P.J. could not show up to the Bob going away party. So we played a nice tournament, did that. I think I finished in third or fourth on that one, I think. Um, third, yeah. And Mike McGordy was there. Um, so it was a good time. Oh, another thing. Here's another thing I should bring up. So after much bullying, no, encouragement. Okay, sure. Mike and John have been asking me for years to join up in the NEPL, New Robert Englunds Pinball League. I don't know, you're gonna do it? And I said, I don't know, too busy. That's gonna be some good stories, do it! It's a big, it's a big commitment, it's every week. Oh, don't just show up every, you can miss two times, no problem. You're gonna show up the other time, but you're gonna show up for different things, and this and that, so finally, so finally I'm thinking, thinking, then I say, you know, I need to get a warm up. Go with Benny! No, Benny goes to all the ramp places, I'm not gonna go with Benny. Oh, oh okay. No, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to play on all classics. I'm going to make it like a classic. There will be stories. So. Oh, I'm sure. Well, no, no. If you're going to play classics, those will be people like us. Yeah. Right. That's what I want. That's what I want. Yeah. So there you go. You don't have to go any further. Right. Don't want to insult the rampers. I've already done that enough. You have to. Right. I have to. Why not? Hit them again a couple of times. Hit them again. Right. It's old. So I started looking on, he sent me the link for the NEPL. I said, would you check all the different sites? Check out what's in. Mike said, I get a bunch of classic games. Scott, Scott's Pinball Barn. Chuck? Who? Chuck? Well, Chuck's too far. He's on a Friday night up in Wakefield in the summer. I don't think so. Okay. Not going there. Sorry. Nope. Nope. And I've been there before. And Chuck's got a great place. And Chuck actually In a way, he runs a league. He runs a league. He's got a nice bunch of classes but he also has a whole bunch of ramp games there. The people that show up to his place are a good portion of rampers so they're going to pick the ramping stuff anyway. Okay. Enough ramp talk. Basically, that's going to be a no-go on that side. I looked at the list of venues. You've got Scott's Pinball Barn. And then you got Harvard Lanes, which is really close to me, half far away. Then you got Mike McGordy's place. So here's the list of games. So as soon as I started seeing this at Harvard Lanes, I was like, okay, I think I can do something here. So, oh, it's a big truck going by. There we go. It's a bike truck. I love trucks. They're the best. So Harvard Lanes has these eight games. They got God Leave Atlantis, A Close Encounter of the Third Kind, Countdown, Highhand, Joker Poker, Kingpin, Sinbad, Skyjump. You know all those games. I know all those games. Those games are like you got some Gottlieb EMs from the early seventies and you got some Gottlieb System Ones from the late seventies. Perfect. I can play all those games. I can do really well in those games. I'll have fun with those games. And instead of spending ten bucks at a site, you gotta throw ten bucks, which is, you know, that's fair. You throw ten bucks at the site for house fee. This place here, instead of a house fee, you're spending 50 cents per game, so you're out of it for 2 bucks. There you go. You're playing 4 games. That's a bargain. That's a bargain. So, and it's fun. So, so, yeah, Ty runs that. You know, Ty, he's been at Pintastic and he uh... And Ty, your shoe? And Ty, your shoe. He's the, he's the video, he's the um... what's the, what's the name, uh... He does a DJ. The DJ thing there, he does the karaoke thing there at Pintastic. He runs that. You've seen him there. I also gave him a Best in Show Award for his Atlantis he brought one year. And he also runs Pops in Cambridge and another place. So he's basically a big pinball operator. He has like three or four locations now. But we'll be looking for now that you're going to go to all these different places. Now you can do a review every time. Yeah, so I've already joined up. I've already played like four or five times now. So I played Harvard Lanes twice. Nice people there, good crowd. Some familiar faces and I actually invited one of them back to the Bob Party, I think. Where did you go to the BobParty? Yeah, I invited him to the BobParty, one of the guys there that I just met. Cool guy. Pinbarn, Scott's Place up in Carlisle. He's got a Cactus Jacks 1991, not a big fan of that one. Cueball Wizard 1992, don't really care about that one either, but still they're not really quite into the ramping genre, so it's okay. Eightball Deluxe, Harlem, Harlem Globetrotters, Joker Poker, Laser Q,Mars God of War, that's an 81 Gottlieb, Pinup which is like Kingpin from Gottlieb 75, Sinbad, Sin Sad as you would say, Soccer, Gottlieb 75, not a big fan but I'll play it, Spirit of 76 and a Stars. That's a good line up too. Titian Cantier, Strikes and Spare. So he's got a nice little line up there. Oh Time Fantasy as well as a rare Williams Remedy III. Yeah, the stones mushroomed out snail. Then we got Mike's plays, Yankee Arcade. So I'll go over the classics what he has. He has four rampers but He's got Centaur, Fathom, Flash, actually no, he doesn't have Flash. He has Centaur, Fathom, Galaxy, Meteor, Paragon, Stars, Trizone and Vector. What do you replace the Batman he had? What do you get instead? He got a Monster Bash remake, a Beatles gold. No, he's had that. He's got a Batman, no he got rid of Batman. He's got Attack from Mars and Godzilla. Oh, that's the new one. Yeah. I never played as Godzilla. I played everything else. Okay. I think you might get a Kong. I'm not sure. Okay, so, so, good. So you're gonna do reviews of all these games when you go through. And you're gonna have to play some other places, so you can't just keep playing the same places, can you? Oh yeah, no. Well, you can, but I move around. So on Thursday nights, Mike and Scott rotate. So one Thursday is Mike, the next Thursday is Scott. and they wrote and then on monday night every monday is harvard lanes so if i'm you know so i don't think what i'm asking you is here you're allowed to go back to the same venue you're not oh yeah i've been you sure you can't go back to the yet you just can't play the same one every week if you want no problem but you just can't go to play two different locations in one week you if you play your spot you played just five others said So that's how that works. So then you put your score in. So right now, they already put me in, I'm in C. In C league. You missed two. Huh? You missed two. Yeah, I missed two. So I'm in C right now. So you have to get the top 36 in each division. The you got in a division you get you get uh... Joe is number one in that one and then you got uh... Benny's number twelve Chuck Webster's thirteeneen uh...Ty is twenty and let's see...I think that's all the people I know in that one okay report next month and I'll tell you I will tell you in C where I am so you're gonna be in top thirty six right now I'm at 283 Never went there, never went there. Have to go sometime when I'm back. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Okay, so I got a couple things before we run out of time. I got a couple things. I'm going to the beach this week. So I'm going to be in Bethany Beach, Delaware and Ocean City. And I'm going to hit some of the arcades. So on our next show, I'm going to talk about some commercial places. How's that? Alright, sounds good. Do they have any old school games do you know? I have no idea what I'm going to find but I'll let you know. All right. Didn't do the research. Want to be surprised. I got to find some places first, but they're out there. Anyway, so there's that. Spotify strikes again. You've already heard this. Yeah, what? Oh, you've already heard it. Okay. Where now I get no accounting if you listen to us from something other than Spotify. So it only tracks my Spotify listeners for every episode. I do get a grand total, but I can't tell who, what, when, where, why. So Spotify strikes again. Um, this is, I got all excited. I have a, I have a robot story. So in our last episode, you made the comment of, oh, there's George's pool robot. Yeah. Well, guess what happened? One day I go out there and the robot won't climb the pool walls. Did you, did you whip it? No, I... Give him a timeout. I spent several hours trying to troubleshoot this thing. You know the routine. Go out to Google, you know, you know what to do. Nothing worked. So then the second part. Call the company. I finally get through to somebody live after about 45 minutes. And the only option is you have to have a technician come out to repair it. There is no return to factory, return to distributor, return to anybody. Oh. Right. Oh. Oh. Okay. You know I had a few things to say about that. Luck was on my side. Okay. Okay. Fourteen months old, I'm thinking one year warranty. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get taken. Just so happens because I bought all my equipment from one manufacturer, I get an extended three year warranty. Sweet. It's under warranty. Nice. So, my technician comes out. Well, before they came out, they made a phone call to me and they said, if the technician finds that you're in error, error, you will pay the service call. I said, you have me incensed. Nothing against you, but I will be out of my mind if that happens. Chance is like, I can't believe you said that. I go, okay, well I did. Nicest guy in the world, Edward. He's my new pool dude. He came, he plugged the thing in, he didn't even put it in the water. I was on a rampage. George, he's got Groot's Ball Syndrome in your robot. It's Groot's Ball's motor. It's the same Chinese motor. Okay, so that's why so so I'm on the robot kick so I went and bought people are gonna be like you're freaking insane I bought a surface robot called a skimming Okay, so bugs spiders anything that crawls walks leaves bird poop This thing will come around and scoop it up off the top of the thing. So I have two robots now But it got me thinking. I'll leave everybody with this. Well, I have one other thing after this. What happens when the robots die? They don't go to heaven. No, but I'm saying like, one day, all the robots are dead. Everywhere. Robots don't work. Right. You might have to do it yourself. I think you have to do it yourself. I think it's going to have a lot of people going to be dumb everybody down. Vacuuming a pool manually is horrible. It's got to be the worst fricking job in the world. Well... Because you have to get all the air out of the hose and that requires some finesse. I've never done it before. All I've ever had is the robot. Wait, is that robot... I was bummed. I was only out without it for a week. Is the robot that skims the top, is it called a skimmy dipper? Thank you. You are. You. I found my bell. Get a virtual one. So ponder the, if the robots die, how screwed everybody's going to be. I don't know that. Well, they won't know what to do. They'd be, uh, well, it's the same thing with AI. Everybody's having AI write them things and make them movies for things and all this stuff. So you just sit there like, uh, like that movie WALL-E. We're going to be like the movie WALL-E if you don't watch that movie sometime. That shows you where we're going with everything being done for you. No. Then you're going to just, all that knowledge is lost. And how do I do that again? What do I do? The AI robot did it for me. Well. Hey, everybody. I'm here with my favorite. I'm so excited to be here with you. Anyway, I missed my robot. It was for only a week. I just got me to thinking that, okay, what happens to other stuff that you're very used to? Like people would freak out. Say your phone just stopped working. It wouldn't bother me. It would bother me, because that's my life. Right, but I'm just saying. Well, you would. People are becoming very, very reliant on technology. Yes, yes. That's all I'm saying. We'll put it this way. We just went out. We were going out for a walk. My mother, myself and Maureen. And I didn't feel like taking my phone. So we're walking. She goes, did anybody bring their phone? I go, no. How can we go for a walk without a phone? It's like, I don't know. What did we do years ago? We just did. She's thinking like, you know, what happens if somebody has a bad day? Oh, the dog comes and bites you or drive-by shooting. Right, yeah. Riot's in the street. Oh, no, wait, it's television. Yeah, right, it's television. You go up to the neighbor's door, knock, knock, hey, I need to use your phone. Hopefully they're not holding a shotgun in their hand. Well, we're not in this state. I'm going to tell you a story. Not in this state, George. So the other day, I see on the front lawn a guy in a yellow vest with this big tripod and camera taking pictures of the wires. So I go out and I said, you know, can I help you? And he tells me who he's with. He's with an engineering company. David David Van Es, Knapp Arcade. David David Van Es, Knapparcade. David David Van Es, Knapparcade. David David Van Es, Knapp Arcade. I'm like, okay, honest answer, like it. So he's, but he's not going on their land, is he? Oh yeah, he was on my front lawn. And then I went and did something. I come out back and he's out back shooting because, you know, I've got the pole with the wires going in the backyard. And he's back there, he was on my neighbor's, he was everywhere. But is he going to your front door and saying, can I do this, sir? No. Oh, he's not. He goes, my company, he goes, I apologize. I apologize. My company does not send out flyers or do any correspondence to let you know we're coming. I apologize. They don't spend the money. They don't spend the money. That's dangerous for him. That's dangerous for him. Why do you think I asked that question? I didn't care about anything else. I'm like, okay, fiber, whatever. If it comes down the street, they'll tell me. I would think especially with the paranoia of mothers with young children these days, all the stories you hear and the stuff on TV, it's like who is this guy that's going to attack my kids or something walking around my yard? That's what they're thinking, you know what I mean? That kind of stuff. You said he never had a gun pulled on him, so I guess that's a good thing. Around here in this state you'll get some harsh language, that's about it. That's all I'm going to muster. There's no gun. A water gun. A water pistol. I'm going to conclude with this. Yes. I'm going to conclude with this. Do you know what month this is and what special occasion it is? Don't say it. Well, it depends on who you ask. No, no, no, no, no, it's not that. Okay. I don't know. What is it? No, no, no, no. Dick Clegg, Tom Steines, masochismعلielogical.dexamination Merci prima Sunday. Where's my bell? Happy Anniversary. Happy Anniversary. There. Hit it again. There. Two bells for you. Very good. Five years. I'll end the show with Happy Anniversary, Dave. Folks, thanks for listening for the last five years. Hopefully this goes a lot longer. Do your bugs. Keep flippin' and stay lit and tilted. The chicken. Oh, the bugs. Oh yeah. Well, what I'm going to try to do is stay out of the frickin' bug zone over here. If I can find my bugs. Where's bugs? Not the good bugs. The bad bugs. These stupid bugs. They're coming. They're coming for me. Here they come. I gotta go duck inside quick. It's not like I'm being hit by a phaser from Star Wars or Star Trek or something. Let people know where they can find you. You can find the doctor and the Mrs. Doctor at pinballdoctor.com. That's all spelled out. You can also find us on YouTube at Dr. Day's Pinball Restorations. And you can find us in most cities around Massachusetts and surrounding states like Cape Cod. Alright, well, this has been the Classic Pinball Podcast. This has been Dr. Dave. That's been George. Have a great, wonderful summer. Okay, folks, we'll see you next month. Happy Flippin'. Be good. Be well. Later. Later. Well, it looks as if our time has just about run out. Just enough left to tell them who the sponsor was. Who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored? I love you Dave! Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E Yeah Dave! A-right George! You don't know what you're saying! You're under their control! George, we've had it with you. Say no rodeo bro dad! Hasta la vista, baby.