I know I said that 80s song way too much at the start, but you know, what can you do? Merry Christmas, Glenn, Glenn the Skateboarder, Tim the, well, I call him the Lion Man. I think Lion Man is something else in pinball. I don't know what that means. I've heard people say it, but I call him Tim the Lion Man Lee. Each and every tribe member, every one of you buttholes, every person who is on the Poor Man's Pinball Facebook page, cheers. Thank you for all your interactions. Thank every person who's ever listened to any episode of my show this year. Thank every content creator. Whether or not I like you or agree with every word you say, thank you for all your hard work because it's so hard to sit here and just give your opinion, especially, I'll be honest, I would say a solo podcast is probably harder. The only reason that a podcast where I'm interviewing someone is harder is trying to get our times lined up. Once I'm actually on there and talking to them, it's great because I don't have to talk I'm going to talk for more than half of the episode, or at least I shouldn't, right? So I'm trying, I will do, I'm bringing back interviews next year. I will say this, I'm going to do, do, do, do, lightning round, mini top five for next year, five ways my show's going to be even better next year. A, less coffee advertising. I'm sorry, I kind of needed the money and I was trying to sell through product, but no, less coffee advertising. I hear that loud and clear. In fact, I'm going to take this moment to say the number two difference is that we've got a new sponsor and it's Cosmic Collectibles. I know y'all rather hear me talk about sports cards or comic books or something rather than coffee. Am I right? Or am I right? The number three thing is I'm going to talk even less about my personal life. I'll probably deviate to it from time to time, but I know even Christopher Franchi, one of the best pinball podcasters of all time, told me, Orby, you've got to talk less about your family, your friends, what you had for lunch, how many times you farted, and what your burps smell like. We want to know about pinball. So I'm going to try to keep it pinballerish more often. It's not going to be perfect. I'm also going to try to go off topic slightly less often. I'm also going to try to keep the shows slightly shorter. And definitely do way, way, way, way, way more interviews. But let's go back to buying pinball machines on credit. When would be a good time to buy a pinball machine on credit? I actually bought a pinball machine from Mike Dimas and I didn't buy it specifically off credit, but for the next month I knew I had all these expenses coming in that I couldn't jr said new But remember, 18 or 16% actualized interest rate is between 40 to 50%. That means if you owe $100 for a whole year on that card, you're not going to pay 18% interest or 16. You're going to pay between 40 to 50%, which is 40 to 50 bucks and not 100 bucks. So if you have 10 grand on high interest credit, like most pinball machines cost that or more, you're going to easily pay between 40 to 50%, which is 4,000 or 5,000 interest. So no, I do not advise you to buy a pinball machine 100% on credit. But if you have to use your mortgage or your home equity line of credit, who cares? Now Zach Meny didn't, he didn't, he is not sponsoring Pinball Nerds Podcast. He didn't call me and tell me to say this. All the distros across North America didn't write me, like Jersey Jack didn't, I didn't get a message from Ken Cromwell this morning saying, oh Orby, can you please make sure that you try to talk to people to use their credit? No. If you have a home equity line of credit that's sitting at 1, 2, 3% above prime, who cares? You're paying a couple hundred dollars a year. You're going to save that in the number of plays you get on that particular pin. Now, if you own like 20 pins, maybe don't buy a pin on credit because you already have 20. But if you're like me and you just don't have 10 grand extra sitting around and you have to put it on your home equity line of credit, which I think in America you have that, but basically it's like a mortgage, right? And you can do it and only pay a couple hundred a year in interest and it brings that much joy and excitement to your family. In an ideal world would you ever buy pinball on credit Probably not But we only live one time And I can tell you right now if we got hit by a frickin nuclear bomb tomorrow of Russia and Ukraine I don know whatever happening China I don know whatever If something bad were to happen COVID I sorry Ian whichever Ian doesn like you to mention that from the final round But if something bad were to happen I would look back and go well I didn have a pinball machine at my house for the last three years so I could pay down my mortgage quicker Fuck that I would much rather have the joy and especially living in the country where it's an hour round trip or sorry for me the closest pinball machine is like 45 minutes so it's an hour and a half round trip to Sackville and they only have three old solid states 1EM and Jurassic Park which I love but I'm you know I'm sort of sick of so anyways I did want to talk about that I wanted to have an open and honest conversation I did have a friend who did buy a pinball machine 100% on credit and I know he used high interest credit, but he also knew he had a big job coming up. He was going to get lots of overtime. He makes like $35 an hour, so with overtime he's going to be making like $50 something an hour. And he did pay it off in three months. So if you can pay it off in three months, you only end up paying a couple hundred bucks interest. That's probably not the end of the world. He didn't buy the entire thing on it, right? But he was afraid he was going to lose his deal. So that's another time it might be worthwhile. Let's say you can get a pinball machine that's normally ... I don't know, I'll say like ... I'm Using extreme example, but let's say that you could find during the height of the pandemic when Jersey Jack's Pirates of the Caribbean was selling for 20k. I think it's down to like 15 now or maybe even a little lower. But if you could buy it and say you had a friend who said, oh, I bought it for 12, I'm going to sell it for 12. And you had to borrow a little money and you bought a little money. You bought the machine, you played it for a month, loved it. You sold it for like, I don't know, 18 grand. You made 6k. You toss your buddy like a grand just for like, hey buddy, like thank you so much for that awesome deal. Wanted to give you some, maybe you give more, I don't know, it depends how good a friend you are. But the point is, if you have to do some situation like that, like the deal was just too good to turn down. I once bought a car on credit, a Corsica, Chevy Corsica, remember those pieces of garbage? My buddy went to the Honda dealership to buy a brand new Civic and they said, oh, we'll give you 500 bucks for it. I said, Pete, and some of you who know Burnout Pete, that story from a long time ago, that's the same Pete, best friend for years, shout out, my buddy Pete there, good old Shedden or London, Ontario, or Dorchester now. But I told Pete, let me pay you $1,000. He goes, you're not going to get more than $1,000 for it on the market. I said, yes, I will. Let me pay you $1,000 tomorrow. I paid $1,000 for it. I got it safety and e-tested for I think $175. I cleaned the whole thing, spent all day getting rid of the stupid skateboarding stickers in the back thing. My fingernails were bleeding by the end by the time I got everything done and cleaned. It was beautiful. Put it in the newspaper back then. Remember pre-Kijiji and everything? This was like 2000 or something. There was internet but there wasn't that much internet stuff was still done in my newspaper and I had like nine or ten people showed up the day and time I said I would be there and the very first people offered $100 more than I'd asked for. Well, when Pete found out that I bought it from him for $1,000 and sold it the next day There are also some strange and alternative ideas of how to put your pinball machine on aежlr link in the description box below. You'll also see a first-hand-nova cover of the Pinball Mesh video in the description box, so make sure that you're in that middle position by asked to moiste this article, CBS News On Celebration I'm going to rock and roll a little bit more, but I'm going to go quicker here. Number four of the day, also known as on the, hold on, I can't do math, 10th day of Christmas, Orby gave to me his top 10 most rad content creators. So I really wanted to talk about this. I didn't want to be too, like I didn't, I don't want to be dramatic about it or anything. I hope people know that I had a couple of beers when I wrote up this list and wrote I'm a big fan of the show and I've also had some pain medication that I'm not even really supposed to be mixing with alcohol at this point. Do as I say, not as I do kids, I don't know. Do your own thing, do your own research, you guys will figure it all out, probably shouldn't be doing it. But I am killing my liver and kidneys right now for you guys. Taking a little bit of the old ibuprofen to get rid of the swelling in my shoulder, while also having some beer so I can be a little bit more fun. And, uh, honestly I would have had some beers tonight anyways, uh, while playing our pinball tournament. So, here they are, just off the top of my head, this was off the top of my head, I started with number one and came backwards, okay. Um, I don't want anyone to take any, this is, yeah, this is just for fun. So, when I filled out my Twippy ballot, I gave what I thought was the top three, like, like just from like an outsider standpoint, I tried to be, I tried to drop my biases at the door, okay. Leave your stories in a sack, sir. Number 10 on the list is Tom from Tom Talks. He's got something to say, Tom Talks. You don't know if he'll ever talk, but he might talk. But usually he doesn't, but he might talk. No, Tom Talks. Tom from Fox City's Pinball. He does really, really awesome pinball streaming. Love all of the commentary, at least when he's talking. He's there at D82 a lot, District 82 of course, world renowned pinball location. He's also part of Triple Drain of course with Travis and Joel, so love him on both of those. So cheers Tom, thanks for all that you do. You've been deemed by Orby to be in your top 10 most read pinball content creators of 2023. Number 9 is Mike Dimas, showroom of Pinball Shenanigans on YouTube, y'all know him, and And if you don't, go check out Pinball Shenanigans on YouTube. Number 8, Joel Engelbreth. I'm not a good pronouncer-nator. I am not. A lot of people F up my last name, Agar, and they call me Albert Agar, or they just call me Garth. They're like, what's up Garth? Not much, what's up Lane? Car, game on! Alright, number 7 on the list. I can't even read my own writing. It's Martin Robbins, formerly of Head to Head Pinball, currently with Haggis, of course. We don't get to hear from Martin nearly as much as we get to hear from his co-host there, because his co-host also has another pinball show and is a pinball commentator and lives in North America. But I love everything that Marty has done. He just doesn't really give two shits. He has fun. He takes a piss out of everybody. He's good buddies with Ryan Say. Like Ryan Say would have made the list if the Dingo didn't eat my baby when they was having some shrimps on the barbie. Oh my god, my Australian viewers, they're gonna, they're ending the show right now. I just got cancelled. I got cancelled all at once. The only thing worse would be if I did like Irish Pirate, but I'm not gonna, it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. I can do Dutch though, guys. Welterduste. I can do Dutch. Oosterblief? Ach, verdomme't. No, I won't do Dutch. Marty Robbins, cheers to you. Thanks for doing all the hard work you do with the pinball company, with Haggis, and then on top of that also still doing the final round, so that's awesome. Number six on this list is Bruce Nightingale himself. Brucey, good ol' Bruce, I love you bro. I know you listen to the show, you've said it several times on Slam Tilt, but Bruce, you were at funding, you could have been higher up on this list, Bruce, and I know that's all you wanted in life was to be like, I got number one on Orbeez list, yeah! Woo! But he can't say that, because he's down there at Numero Sisa. Because not just because he doesn't visit me when he was up here at Fundy Flippers, but you know, he's only on one podcast, like what is that? Like all the other guys on this list are so busy, they're streaming, and Bruce is like eh, yeah he's got some type of like, you know, he's got the, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm supposed to remember it. I was going to say the Delaware Pinball Collective, but it's not. The Rochester, Rochester. How could I forget that? Something, something, West 80 something street. I forget. Go listen to Slam Tilt. Bruce will tell you where it is. Google it. Google will tell you where it is. Love you, Bruce. I'm just fucking with you, bro. I don't really give a shit that you didn't hang out with me. You know, you're probably on vacay with your wife or something like that, so you weren't going to be calling. And honestly, I didn't hear you hang out with David Dennis, because if you hung out with David Dennis, then you didn't talk to me. It's like, oh my God. You'd be in the same boat with Kaneda over there. I wouldn't be talking to you. No, I'm just kidding. We would never put you in that boat, Bruce. I wouldn't do that. All right, number five, David Dennis himself. What up, Silver Ball? Silver Ball Chronicles, the man. He used to do some live streaming. David, I'd love to see you do some more live streaming. One of my favorite live streams, in fact, of all time, if not maybe my favorite. Dave and I, Dave brought me over to his house. He made up some awesome ribs. I brought him some gluten-free beers. I brought myself a lot of not gluten-free beers. We did a live stream. It took forever to get everything working because I hadn't done a live stream since Ontario because I hadn't had fast enough internet. It was great. We did Simpsons for like three hours and I think we did like maybe two hours of Tron. That was an epic marathon of a night. I probably was hungover for about a week, but David Dennis was the hostess with the mostess and I had a great time there. Him and his wife were just incredible. They were awesome hosts. I had a fun time. You know, if I still livestreamed, I would, you know, consider begging him to let me back there to do it, but I don't really do that too much anymore. Who knows? So maybe 2024, things will change. Guess we'll have to see. Number four on the list, the top 10 content, most rad content creators of 2023 is none other than Kerry Hardy. You've said it before, he's by far my favorite YouTube creator. I like that it feels like he's very unfiltered. Kari Hardy is kind of like, I feel like he is to what I am to podcasting to YouTube, except for he's way better at editing, his stuff is way funnier, he's better looking, he's nicer, he's more genuine, and he has a way better pinball collection. But you know, besides all the important, no I'm just kidding, Kari Hardy, sorry, but Kari Hardy, I do like that, and all things aside, unfortunately, he made what I think was a Pretty tame video about American Pinball and they took him off the media list for Expo. Not cool, Expo! It's like if American Pinball could even be less cool, they would have to get, you know, they would have to like talk to someone from Expo to, or I guess David Fix works with them, to say oh no you can't be, because he said one thing we didn't like about GTF, even though he did so many like videos where at least from the, for the most part he said positive things, but because he was honest, oh you told the truth in a nice way, oh I'm sorry you told the truth. That was BS. If you want to ban Kaneda from a freaking media mixer, cool. I totally get that. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I get it. I get it. But Kerry Hardy being banned from anything? This man has put thousands of blood, sweat, and tears. If you're listening to this right now, go become one of this guy's Patreons. Go help him out. Honestly, he has done so much for pinball that he doesn't get credit He's probably the most underrated creator in all of pinball. Alright, next on that list is Joe Chervino of the Pinball Degenerates himself. And remember, the Degenerates is the Degenies. The most degenerate pinball award show on the planet is coming up in less than two months. Excited for that. Joe's been doing a lot more live streams and really interacting and he's really putting himself out there. TheM Clinton Channel I have the hoodie which is incredible. It's my warmest hoodie. It looks awesome. I love all the artwork on it. I love all the stickers. Even today, today I got to send out all my orders for Angry Alpaca and Joe was one of them and I got to ironically he ordered the Pinball Nerds tee that the very last one in fact that has Orbeez pinball degeneratized you know animated picture on it and then he also got the card and I also fired him off just for fun because I know he loves the Blue Jays. atau estab salah bloody, charger on peggy hmm fc winds bobuchet rookie cardaaa de Groot super extensive cargo really cool looking card and kind of fun if he gets that bad boy sign when he goes to see the Jays it would definitely definitely increase value all right so the next on this list is ron Howard all right from slam kill pinball and silver ball chronicles and he also does captioning af extingula live streaming quite often when they record HGTV's on youtube http://www.youtube.com.au Number one on the list, Mr. Jeff Teolas! Come and get that crown, boy! Yeah! Jeff, I love you, Jeff. Not only are you killing it on my favorite pinball podcast currently, The Final Round, but maybe more importantly for the pinball community, you work your butt off for also Pinball Profile. And I think you're at like 400 episodes of Pinball Profile, probably like getting close to 100 episodes of the other one now. So Jeff and I have almost done like the same number of episodes. The big difference is his episodes are good. Merry Christmas! Why don't you go Jeff yourself? Merry Christmas! No, I love you Jeff. And oh, and above that, Jeff also does some of my favorite color commentary for all pinball commentating. He does know the rules fairly well, but quite often he's sitting in the booth with someone who might know the rules a little better. So he adds a lot of color and I really think that he works hard to ask the questions that the viewer would be asking. And that's what I love about listening to Jeff. I think he's a great commentator. I'm going to might know the rules a little better. So he adds a lot of color and I really think that he works hard to ask the questions that the viewer would be asking. And that's what I love about listening to Jeff Teolas do commentary. I think overall Jeff is just great for pinball. He does the in-between cuts quite often to when you have winners of a big tournament and that sort of thing. I'm going to have a little sip of this beer. Cause my throat is getting perched. All right, so cheers to all those content creators, and I know I left a whole bunch out here. I probably should have had Don, I just remember that, I was like Don from Don's Pinball Podcast. Probably, Don would have slid in at number 11, and I do, I don't want people to think that like, Zach from This Week in Pinball, or I guess I should say five years ago when he switched over We are now moving over to um, uh, The Pinball Show. Sorry and then there's obviously Chris from Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. I think that they are both very, very, very entertaining. They didn't quite slide in there either, but I think they're both very entertaining. I disagree with a lot of what both of them say fairly often. I mean, not a lot, not like 90%, but a good amount, typically. So maybe that's why they didn't squeak on there, but I just, those ten people were the top ten that I thought of, in the order that I thought of them. So that's how that works. Yeah, and I guess I get to choose who's most rad because it's my show, right? All right, number five for the, so, blah blah blah blah doing the math, for the 11th day of Christmas Orbie gave to me Falling Out of Love with Jack Danger. All right, this isn't gonna, I don't have any, like I'm not spreading any rumors here. I'm not even going to say anything negative or rude about Jack because I love Jack, but I loved Jack more and I loved Jack better as a pinball creator from a personal level. Now, it's arguable to say that as a pinball designer, he gives back more to the pinball world, certainly for himself, for his own, like, I don't know, like he's very humble. I'm sitting in a little bit of liquid. But I will say this. I love you Jack. It's just me personally, probably of all the pinball content creators that I just named, I spent more time in Jack's dead flip chat than any of them. Probably more than most of them combined. I hung out with this man. I remember I even went through a tough time like I don't know six seven years ago and it was really really cold one February in London there wasn't much going on yes every single Monday night I went to Monday Night Pinball I called the office every single Thursday I went to All You Can Play every single Friday I brewed beer I brewed over a hundred beers through the London Home Brewers Guild with the Plaid Brothers so I have an affinity for craft beer as well those dudes liked pinball as well but they weren't like they weren't coming out to pinball tournaments very often shout out Travis and Steve shout out But I absolutely, absolutely forgot what I was talking about. But, where were we here? Okay, okay, okay. Falling Out of Love with Jack Danger. I spent probably 20 to 30 hours feeling very intimate with this guy, talking with him quite often. Like, I felt like it wasn't even, I felt like maybe it's because a good chunk of what I was saying was like funny or made sense or whatever. I felt like Jack Danger read out more of my comments than the average person. It's not like he read every comment I ever put in, but I felt very intimate, very close to him. I wouldn't say I was in love with him, like being in love with a partner. I was in love with him like how I'm in love with pinball, like how I'm in love with Leon Dreisaitl, and how I'm in love with Conor McDavid and Sidney Crosby. And right now, well, I probably didn't love Jack Danger as much as I love Elwin. Come on. I mean, Elwin's sitting here at my feet, keeping my feet all comfy cozies, because she's pretty cold out. I think it was minus 17 with the wind chill yesterday, which was like, even in our old farmhouse, I had to take stockings and put them over all the old vents, because like cold air was somehow seeping through the basement and the chimney up into the house, and it was like freezing. So I took all our empty stockings with, have yet to be filled. Their stockings were hung with care.