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#103 Hollywood Dave - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 30m·analyzed·May 12, 2023
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TL;DR

Dave discusses TV appearance opportunity and pinball industry updates including Chicago Gaming rumor.

Summary

Hollywood Dave recounts a television casting pitch from ITV America's Pawn Stars Do America production company, who contacted him as a potential pinball restoration expert for an unpaid segment filming in the Boston area. The offer required 2-week turnarounds on 1990s machines, raised questions about payment timing and contract obligations, and included uncomfortable queries about vaccination status and masking that Dave declined. The conversation shifts to pinball topics including a programmable MPU board (Lizzy/Arduino confusion), the upcoming Allentown pinball event, Rush game accessories ($1,699 topper), and rumors about Chicago Gaming's next game being War of the Worlds rather than Centaur.

Key Claims

  • ITV America casting department contacted Dave to be an on-camera restoration expert for Pawn Stars Do America, unpaid position with potential Boston-area filming

    high confidence · Dr. Dave received email from Justin Nichols at ITV America; confirmed via phone interview lasting approximately one hour

  • The TV segment would require finding and restoring a 1990s pinball machine within a two-week window

    high confidence · Dave explained constraints to production team during interview; specified only games requiring ~25-30 hours of restoration would be feasible

  • Production company asked about vaccination status and masking requirements; Dave declined to answer and cited being 'mask exempt'

    high confidence · Dave reported direct conversation with Justin Nichols during phone interview; described his response as firm refusal

  • ITV America is a production company that created Pawn Stars for History Channel and produces content for Netflix and other platforms

    high confidence · Email from Justin Nichols describing company credentials; George and Dave discussed company's portfolio

  • Chicago Gaming's next pinball game will be War of the Worlds, not Centaur or another named classic

    medium confidence · Dave reporting rumor from 'Haggis Pinball' source; unconfirmed but specific claim about game selection strategy

  • Stern released a $1,699 topper accessory for Rush pinball game approximately one year after game's release

    high confidence · Dave discussing Rush accessories he recently sold; confirmed accessory price and timing of release relative to game availability

  • A programmable MPU board called Lizzy/Arduino is being discussed on Pinside by an unnamed prominent community figure

    medium confidence · Dave referencing Pinside conversation; unable to name specific discussant but indicated high-profile participation

  • Allentown pinball event will feature a mix of classic and modern machines, with organizer Levi seeking more modern titles

Notable Quotes

  • “They would find potential pinball restorations. Our team is looking for something like that for people to bring to us. We want to do a pinball machine in one of these shows in one of these cities. We want to do it in Boston, have a pinball item brought in.”

    Justin Nichols (ITV America, quoted by Dr. Dave) @ ~17:00 — Core pitch for the TV segment opportunity; explains production's interest in Boston-area pinball restoration content

  • “I said, well, it has to be very specific what you look for then. You only can throw by me any 1990s pins. 1990s pins, any ramp games like that, I can get that turned around. If I kick butt three days straight, in two weeks, I could definitely turn around.”

    Dr. Dave @ ~24:00 — Demonstrates Dave's practical constraints and negotiation strategy; establishes feasible scope for unpaid TV work

  • “The biggest thing feathering your cap is going to be as seen on Pawn Stars. I said, well, that's great, but I already have as seen on Chronicle and NBC Boston and the Heritage Journal and Middlesex News. Where were you 20 years ago?”

    Dr. Dave @ ~32:00 — Captures Dave's skepticism about the long-term value of TV exposure versus immediate business needs; reflects tension between media opportunity and practical income

  • “And then he said, yeah, and can I get your vaccination status? I said, I am really not comfortable talking about that. That's my own personal medical information.”

    Dr. Dave @ ~42:00 — Critical moment where Dave draws boundary on personal questions; represents dealbreaker-adjacent concern about production company's requirements

  • “I haven't taken – I haven't done any – I haven't bent over for anything for the past three years. I'm not bending over now.”

    Dr. Dave @ ~45:00 — Dave's stance on COVID-related requirements; indicates reluctance to compromise personal principles for TV opportunity

  • “War of the Worlds. Boring. Who cares? I'm not impressed... as long as you're not using images, it's an open license. You can talk about it right but you can't use that image.”

    Dr. Dave @ ~90:00 — Dave discusses Chicago Gaming's rumored next title and licensing strategy; shows industry knowledge of IP constraints in game design

Entities

Dr. DavepersonGeorgepersonJustin NicholspersonITV AmericacompanyPawn Stars Do AmericaproductStern PinballcompanyChicago Gaming CompanycompanyRushgameWar of the Worldsgame

Signals

  • ?

    content_signal: ITV America production company actively recruiting pinball restoration expert for television segment via Pawn Stars Do America; indicates mainstream media interest in pinball restoration niche

    high · Email from Justin Nichols at ITV America; confirmed phone interview; production company scouting Dave via YouTube channel, podcast, and local news appearances

  • ?

    business_signal: TV opportunity requires unpaid labor with tight 2-week restoration deadlines and unknown payment terms post-production, raising questions about ROI for small restoration business

    high · Dave's calculations about days lost to filming, legal/contract review costs, and comparison to existing media exposure (Chronicle, NBC Boston); discussion of time opportunity cost vs. business revenue

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern releasing high-priced accessory ($1,699 topper) for Rush game approximately 1 year post-launch; strategy to extend revenue stream beyond initial game sales

    high · Dave's observation about staggered accessory release; criticism of timing as deliberate revenue extension strategy

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Chicago Gaming's next pinball game rumored to be War of the Worlds (sci-fi theme) rather than Centaur; community expecting Centaur but receiving different IP instead

    medium · Dave citing unconfirmed rumor from 'Haggis Pinball' source (Australia); includes discussion of licensing strategy and why sci-fi theme is appealing choice

  • ?

    technology_signal: GTO replacement sound board exists for classic Xenon and Flash Gordon machines; alternative to stock audio solutions available for collectors

Transcript

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0:30
Take it by my baby. Take it by Hollywood. Take it by my baby. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George, and I'm joined by Dr. Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. That was a long one this time. Yeah, because you kept me hanging for five days.
1:06
Folks, we're going to start with a tease from Dave. He says, I got something I want to tell you, but I don't want to tell you on the phone. I want to tell you in person so I can gauge your reaction. Now, before Dave starts reading, I'm going to tell you what I thought it was. then I'm going to tell you what my wife thinks it is and then Dave's going to tell us. Okay. So I thought that you were being approached for a job offer by one of the major pinball companies.
1:48
Janice thought, we've done this before. You've done this email bit with me before and I've made these predictions, I think. Janice thought that somebody in Hollywood, i.e. in the movies or TV, wants you to be in it for some reason. But we couldn't figure out what the reason was. Janice, if you're listening.
2:17
Really? She guessed? Yes. Because I told her the Hollywood, call me Hollywood Dave. Well, that's a big hint. Right, but I didn't know in what context that meant. It could have meant almost anything.
2:31
You know, you could have thrown me too. It might not have been honest. You might have just, you know, made a diversion. So, okay. Now that everybody else is on the same page as me, clueless, give us the reveal. All right, here's the reveal. So I got an email from someone named Justin Nichols, who works at ITV America. So he said, his email says, Hi, Dr. Dave. Hope this email finds you well. My name is Justin Nichols. I am with the casting department at ITV America. We're an award-winning global television production company. Right now I'm thinking, okay, tell me more. That specializes in telling real stories about real people. creator of a number of hit programs including Pawn Stars on the History Channel and many more.

medium confidence · Dave discussing tournament setup details from conversation with Levi; indicates ongoing machine selection process

  • “So the game's out a year. Instead of it being available right when the game comes out, you guys string this crap out for another year.”

    Dr. Dave (re: Stern's Rush topper accessory) @ ~68:00 — Criticism of Stern's accessory release strategy; reflects broader community frustration with post-launch monetization

  • “You're not going to believe this one. Okay. This is a personal animal story from about 40 years ago.”

    George @ ~59:00 — Introduces tangential but memorable anecdote about chimpanzees on a boat in New Jersey; typical of podcast's digressive conversational style

    • Centaur
    game
    Texas Pinball Festivalevent
    Allentownevent
    Leviperson
    Pennywiseorganization
    Gabeperson
    Maureenperson
    Tomperson
    Haggis Pinballperson/alias
    Glenn Wechterperson
    Dave Goldenperson

    low · Dave encountered GTO board reference in Xenon forum thread; unfamiliar with product; mentioned alongside Squawk and Talk and Say It Again boards but lacking detailed specifications

  • ?

    event_signal: Allentown pinball event organizing machine selection; organizer Levi seeking balance of classic and modern machines; community members (Dave) contributing machines (Pinball Pool System 1)

    high · Dave's discussion with Levi about machine selection; Dave's participation with Pinball Pool; vendor booth vetting process underway

  • ?

    community_signal: Pennywise vendor booths require detailed vetting of booth contents and purpose before approval; gatekeeping mechanism for event vendor participation

    high · Dave's email exchange with Gabe at Pennywise regarding booth rental; rejection of unspecified 'coin boxes yard sale' idea until follow-up clarification

  • ?

    industry_signal: Dr. Dave's media presence across multiple platforms (YouTube, website, podcast, local news) has reached mainstream TV production companies; pinball restoration expertise has visible market recognition

    high · ITV America executives discovered Dave through YouTube, website, and ABC/NBC Boston media appearances; production company proactive in sourcing specialist expertise

  • ?

    regulatory_signal: TV production company inquiring about vaccination status and masking for on-camera work; indicates ongoing COVID-related requirements in media production despite post-pandemic timeline

    high · Justin Nichols asking about vaccination status and mask-wearing willingness; Dave refusing both requests; describes encounter as 'COVID landmine'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: War of the Worlds available as open license for pinball game design if not using specific IP imagery; manufacturers can reference concept without paying rights holders for visual assets

    medium · Dave's explanation of War of the Worlds licensing: 'as long as you're not using images, it's an open license'; comparison to classic Attack from Mars licensing model

    • 3:19
    That's one. That's Pawn Stars and the History Channel. Well, yeah, it's true. Pawn Stars, History Channel, yeah. But there's other shows they've done that I don't really care for. But whatever. But I know Pawn Stars. I'm just wondering, are they a one-hit wonder? No, no, no. They've done shows for History Channel, Netflix. I don't know who these people are. Well, they're a feeder production company. They're a production company that sells their programming to big channels. Exactly. Or streamers or whoever's buying crap today. Exactly. Got it.
    3:56
    So they're currently seeking local restoration experts for Pawn Stars Do America on History Channel. No. Pawn Stars Do America. Kind of like a Beavis and Bypass. That's on TV. That's on now. Is it on now? Yeah. Okay. That's their... Okay, we're sick of... It's the Pickers.
    4:14
    They're doing the... No, no. Pawn Stars is the guys... I know that. I'm saying they are doing what the Pickers have been doing. They see how good the Pickers are. Oh, okay. No, well, there was that other guy, too. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's been done on other shows. Yeah, well, Pawn Stars originally started out in Las Vegas. Right, right, right. But I'm saying now they have a road show. They kind of combined the road show that used to be on public TV with Pawn Stars. so they go to a hotel or a big room or an armory you bring your crap you stand in line they look at it they say yeah this is something good or you're full of crap and you leave well is that i've watched you watch the show you watch i watched it once because i was interested in them saying something i saw this guy bring in like this old ratty rug i'm like okay first of all who's interested in seeing somebody bit on a ratty rug i'm not well first of all you have to know how TV works, this is all set up ahead of time. Yeah, I... Keep reading. All we're doing is beating. The magic of TV. All I'm doing is beating on the show. Alright. No, you know, people love TV, love this stuff. My wife's a big fan of Pickers, and this is kind of like Pickers, I think. It's kind of like they're getting out of their store and doing this. So anyway, so they're going to step out of the world famous Gold and Silver Pawn shop in Las Vegas, as you know, and go to all these different cities around the country. and looking for items, collectible items. And he says, and we are headed to the Boston area this season. That's the key, Boston area. We're looking for an on-camera restoration expert in the world of pinball machines who can help provide interesting context and identify, evaluate, restore, and possibly appraise items that are brought to the TV series. If you would like to hear more about the opportunity, you feel you could be a great fit, we'd love to set up a call to discuss at your earliest convenience. Please let me know. Here's a bio of what we do and who we are. And he gave me all that stuff. So then I said, I wrote back, hello, Justin, thanks for reaching out. I guess I would very be interested in hearing more about the project. I think it would be a good fit what you have outlined. So then we had a phone call, and he gave me an interview.
    6:24
    It went really well. We're going to talk maybe for like 15, 20 minutes. It went for an hour. I want to first find out, how did he find you? Okay, good question. This is how I found him. Okay, that's a question. that's the question I asked him during this interview and as we're talking I said how did you find me anyway he said well we're in LA and producers above me the executive producers they know about you they found you and they told him so we need a guy right but you've got a website you've got a youtube channel and you've got a podcast and also they took a little google on me They say it was on ABC, Channel 5 Chronicle. That's right. NBC Boston. And you got that stuff up on your – I got it up on there, too. So I have tons of media. So they got a way of scoping you before. Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. They know what they're going to get before they even get it. Okay. So how'd the call go? Versus Joe Bob's pinball – Obviously an hour. It went well. Versus Joe Bob's pinball repair in a shed somewhere. It's a little different.
    7:26
    Did you find out in your questioning whether they had contacted others in the area? No. No, he asked me, are there any others that do what you do? I said, no, not in this area, not in the Northeast that I know of.
    7:42
    Not exactly what I do, not to the extent I do. Okay. And not with the customer base I have. Okay. So I was going on and asking more things about the show and what I would be doing. So he said, well, this would be an unpaid thing.
    7:59
    Boo. Right. That's a boo number one. So what was he holding out as the carrot? Well, we would find potential pinball restorations. Our team is looking for something like that for people to bring to us. We want to do a pinball machine in one of these shows in one of these cities. We want to do it in Boston, have a pinball item brought in. So they would find something ahead of time. They'd throw it by me and say it's something that I could work on. And on top of that, I need, that's just so much time they're going to give me. You have two weeks to restore it. Two weeks. They're only going to be in the air for two weeks. So they find it. I go see Rick and I go, yeah, Rick, you should buy that machine for X amount of dollars. And I can restore it for X amount of dollars. And you can sell it, Rick, for X amount of dollars. So buy it cheap. You pay me some dough. And then on top of that, you're going to make some dough after I do my thing with it. All within two weeks. So I told him, I said, well, it has to be very specific what you look for then. You only can throw by me any 1990s pins.
    9:04
    1990s pins, any ramp games like that, I can get that turned around. If I kick butt three days straight, in two weeks, I could definitely turn around. I've got all the parts for that. Once you talk about an older game that's rusty and all this other weird stuff in a bar in the shed, that's going to take a lot longer, so that wouldn't happen. That's not going to be a good one. So you basically have to give me something that is not going to require hundreds of hours. Yeah, exactly. You need to provide something that's maybe 25, 30 hours of restoration.
    9:41
    You were talking about them finding you a game in the 90s that would require perhaps 25 or 30 hours, not something that they went out and saw and said, oh, this is a really cool theme. let's get this game because we could talk about it and other constructs right you get a you get a you get it to wherever and you look at it and go this runk rusty hunk of crap i'm gonna have i mean why did you buy this oh we thought it was a really cool theme that's what you're trying to prevent pretty much yeah okay so yes i'm trying to prevent that i just want to do 20 hours worth of work get it done get paid um and maureen brought up well when are they going to pay you for this Are they going to pay you after the fact when they get it back to Las Vegas and they sell it? Are they going to do it? I said, I have no idea.
    10:29
    Then I'm worrying about different contracts, and I don't know if I'm going to sign a contract or whatever. But then we started talking more. I'm thinking in my head all the different things, and he's going on and on. And I'm thinking, like, do I really want all this exposure? Because he said, oh, well, the biggest thing feathering your cap is going to be as seen on Pawn Stars. I said, well, that's great, but I already have as seen on Chronicle and NBC Boston and the Heritage Journal and Middlesex News. Can I say it? Where were you 20 years ago? Yeah, where were you 20 years ago? When I'm starting to build a business and I really need the help, now all of a sudden it's like, hey, I'm a sole proprietor. You want to boost my business 1,000%, which I can barely handle right now. What's the benefit? There isn't. I could take it down three. one even if you could do it in three days that's three days that you're not working right then there's the filming that kills a day i don't care it kills a day so you're already out four days one more and it's five it's a week that's a that's a hefty thing and if they're saying we only give you two weeks what happens if it spills beyond that they can't you know you got a great I'm saying, but you've got a gremlin. You're trying to figure it out. It's taken away from your main thing, which is to put food on the table and a roof over your head. It's crazy. More recently, you probably have to get a lawyer to look over a thing. You have a lawyer to get a contract and all this other stuff. Yeah, I wouldn't do it blind because, you know. No way. But here, here's my question. Yeah. And I know it's different, but maybe there is some similarity.
    12:20
    I think I told this story once before, and if I have, bear with me. It'll be quick. When I was in high tech going to school, I was with this guy. I'll never forget his name, Bob Watson. And he had a daughter who appeared in TV commercials. and the residuals, if you're on a national TV commercial, okay, let me finish the story. So if you're on a national contract for a big product and you're part of their branding, that commercial could run three to six months and you get paid nickels and dimes every time it runs, but those nickels and dimes add up very, very quickly. I like where you're thinking, Joe. It's the exact same thing. So is there a, because they're using, I'm guessing you're signing away your image. Yeah. You know, other things that, okay, what happens at some point in time? You want to do something, and then all of a sudden this thing rears its head and says, ah, ah, ah, you're not allowed to do that. Look at this contract. Yeah, exactly. And then also I'm bringing, if they have me on, I'm bringing legitimacy to this segment of the show. Here comes Rick's Restorations when he came in and said, I do it for this and this. You bring a real guy who knows what he's doing with Pimmo machines. Was that the guy who restored all kinds of stuff? Yeah, he had the cut-off t-shirt. Yeah, that guy. It was a goatee thing. That's the guy I was trying to think of. Yeah. Okay. He had his old spinoff and so forth. Right. He has a little crew working for him. I get me and I have Maureen here who does my artwork and so forth. Right. That's – No, we're a little slower.
    13:56
    We sell the wine before it's time here like Paul Masson did. Well, no, you're a small business. Call it what it is. That's what it is.
    14:02
    So, and then he started getting into, then he started going to more of us. Okay, I probably can work, I probably work. Then he said, yeah, and can I get your vaccination status? Uh-oh. Yeah. Uh-oh. So I said, I am really not comfortable talking about that. That's my own personal medical information. So next question. I shut that down. Uh-oh. Yep. I said, okay, well, all right, I'll put that down. Okay, would you have any issues wearing a mask?
    14:34
    I said, what kind? A gorilla mask? Are we playing Halloween? What's going on? I said, aren't we kind of three years in? Are we kind of done with that part? Oh, you don't understand that, you know, we're in different cities. They might have different requirements, this and that. And I said, yeah, I'm mask exempt. I don't have that. So that's no and no. Did this person understand he just stepped on the COVID landmine? Yeah, he did. Or Cootie's, I call it. The Cootie's landmine. So I wasn't having it. It's like, you know what? I haven't taken – Oh, boy. I haven't done any – I haven't bent over for anything for the past three years. I'm not bending over now. So I don't really give a shit. I'm guessing that was the conclusion of – No, no. We're still going strong. He was still interested. but I'm sure they put a couple black check marks there because I'm not going to go along with Hollywood. Circled in red with a star. Look here. It's the Hollywood beast system. I don't want to get that close to it. You don't really mix well with that. I don't mix well with it. It's not my thing. I'd play along if they'd see it my way but if they don't then whatever. They're good at pretending but not with real subjects.
    15:49
    You can almost hear a pin drop Maureen said when he had that question. It's like, oh, really? We're going there? Okay. Are you through with your... To be continued. And that's to be continued. Tune in later. Oh, so you're going to leave this hanging. I'll leave it hanging. So there's more. There's more.
    16:06
    Okay. Yeah, so... No, that'll be quiet. Okay. You're done. Okay.
    16:15
    Let's shift to pinball. All right. It is pinball. I mean, let's talk about some items regarding pinball, not Dave's Hollywood debut. Dave TV. Yeah, Dave TV, great. Since we haven't been together for, I don't know, three or four weeks,
    16:38
    as I peruse the internet, pin side and other places in the megasphere, what is you mentioned this in one of our last programs what is a lizzy board l-i-s-y well that's a really overweight board and she sings oh wait that's a lizzo board oh no i'm sorry i got the wrong thing george let me shuffle my papers here very inappropriate how did i do that You seen it from another show. No. Yes, you did. I didn't. Okay. I just kind of came up with this one. Okay, okay. You're witty. We're up our twice. Thank you. Is it a programmable MPU? Is that what it is? Yeah, it is. Yeah. John Day's a big fan. I saw one of your favorite friends pontificating about it out on Pinside. Which favorite friend was that? We can't really say. I can't really say, but he seemed to be. He's my number one friend? Uh-oh, he probably is either one or one egg. So, yeah, he had a very, very prominent spot in the back and forth on that particular product. Okay.
    17:51
    I have another question. No, actually, I have an observation. You and I were tongue-tied, not that that's any surprise to anyone. the board set that John Day used in that galaxy the word we were looking for was Arduino yeah Arduino no we couldn't come up with it right we're just I know that sounds familiar okay um maybe Lizzie Borden board I have some house I wasn't listening and I know it was really cringy.
    18:36
    I have to readdress the Grippa Grapefruit IPA. What a great beer that was, isn't it? Isn't it fantastic? Did you forget to wear your glasses or did you just fail to tell me the birth date of that particular... Oh, I did not know. I mean, let me take a guess. Let's see, the Born on Dating. I don't know, is it sometime in this century, this decade? I'm going to guess 2015. No, it wasn't quite that old. But old enough so that the unsuspecting would spit it out. And they have. Many people have. As of today, it's 21 months old. Well, good. It's like fine wine. It ages nicer. No, it does not. And I don't even know if it would be good at the beginning. So I still have three cans of it. I'm wondering if I'm going to bring it to Allentown. Are we going to talk about Allentown? Yeah, why not? It's coming up.
    19:36
    You told us that you are bringing your pinball pool. Pinball pool system 1. And that will be part of, do you know any of the other games that are going to be part of the bank of games for the tournament? I know there's going to be a lot of classics there. It's going to be a good mix of classic pin and a couple moderns. I know last time I was talking to Levi, he's looking for, he's like, okay, we have plenty of classics now. We really need a couple moderns to throw in here. So maybe some people are gun-shy about bringing some modern stuff. I don't know. But I think he's going to have a couple like last time.
    20:09
    Do you want to hear about one of our podcasting brethren who is going to have a booth? Oh. At that show. Go ahead. Who? I don't remember. And I wouldn't say it anyway. Okay, gotcha. But I thought it was pretty brilliant. I'm like, I don't give you some exposure. I wouldn't want to sit there for two days or three days. But, you know, if you had a banner and you had some. Hey, come up and talk to us. Hey, how you doing? So it got me to make an email to Gabe for Pentastic. but he wanted to know what my company was and what i was looking to sell what are you talking about you're gonna sell that's that was in the email like he didn't want to just rent me a booth it was like he was vetting me like who the f for you i didn't tell him i was with the podcast right oh no no no i just said what'd you say just my name and just said what i wanted to rent a booth oh so you want to know what it was for right Okay, well, I don't blame him. You could have been having porn magazines for sale. Right, right.
    21:24
    I'm still chewing on it. I still think I want to do it. I know Dave and Jerry are doing one in Allentown. Right, I want to do a yard sale. I've got a bunch of coin boxes. I've got a hundred of them. Like I said, I think it's a good idea. I'll revisit that. He'll hear it through the grapevine. We can actually make a fort of coin boxes around us. Have like a big fort. and stack them up like beer cases. And also grip a beer. We'll have some of the beers there for free.
    21:54
    Tasting samples. Okay. Did you happen to see the game that you just got rid of? They came out with an accessory or several accessories for that game that has departed your abode. The Rush game? Yes. What kind of accessories we got going for it? They have a topper. Wonderful. How much? Two grand?
    22:18
    Close. $1699. Sounds good. That's another $1699 I won't get back. If I put that on there I see a lot of them for sale still Dave I see a lot of them What does it do Is that Neil Peart drumming up the top there What does it do No some kind of clock I didn't really pay much attention to it. As soon as I saw the price, I heard somebody talking about it. I'm like, oh, so the game's out a year. Instead of it being available right when the game comes out, you guys string this crap out for another year. Is it Stern doing it? Stern's doing it? Oh, yeah, it's Stern's top. Oh, wow. Right. that, some body armor, and those expression lights that everybody wants for the tour level down games. You know, the Pro and the LE. The LE has it. I mix them up. It's the middle level. Yeah. Pro, Premium, LE. The other ones are CE, Super CE, LE,
    23:15
    I think Cisgender or some crap. That's not right. I'm getting all my pronouns mixed up, George. I forgot my email. A shout-out to Dave Golden for soothing my psyche, saying, your last three shows weren't bad, George. Actually, they were quite good. So, thanks, Dave. Nice. Good words of encouragement. Nice. Do you want to hear my animal story of the week? Go ahead. What do you got? What's your animal story? You're not going to believe this one. Okay. This is a personal animal story from about 40 years ago.
    23:52
    Okay. I get an email from my friend Tom down in Maryland, and he says, I want to talk to you about the Down Bay Cruise.
    24:06
    Well, don't make judgments here. The yacht club I belong to, it was a sailing club, but it's called a yacht club. had a powerboat event where people would volunteer their boats and take all the kids about an hour south on the bay to a restaurant to eat and then come back. It was a lot of fun. So as we're on this hour-long cruise, this boat pulls up beside us. and on the boat were, it looked like little kids dressed in sailor's outfits with the orange safety jackets on. Yeah, life's preserver. They weren't kids. They were chimpanzees. And the name of the boat was the African Queen.
    25:00
    Okay, that's interesting. All right. and I said to him why are you asking me about this he said my kids gave me this app where it's about my life and they ask you all kinds of questions in the app and I guess they put together a book after it's all done but the kids can ask questions too and the kids always come up with these wacky questions because they're like we want more detail so I go out and I said Tom I believe there's more to the story than this because I did look this up once. I'm like, I can't be the only person that ever saw this. And it turns out the guy, if you Google this, you'll find it. Chimpanzees, Tom's River, New Jersey. This guy made a ton of money in the pharmaceutical business, I think. And he had a love for animals. Bachelor had 80, 80 monkeys, chimpanzees living in his house. Were these experimental chimpanzees? No, that's part of the story. You're jumping ahead. Oh, boy. Poor chimpanzees. So this man died in 1972. Now, I know where the boat was called the African Queen. We used to see it. We used to water ski over in this area. And I always saw the boat there, but I never saw it leave. Turns out this guy died. And the chimpanzees took over? No. Just before the man died, he sent the chimpanzees to a preserve down in South Florida where these animals are supposed to live out in perpetuity.
    26:35
    This guy also had the kids dress up in, like, letterman jackets, like high school letterman jackets, and drive them around in a van in town with the four chimpanzees in the back dressed up. This guy was a real kook. Okay.
    26:49
    Jump ahead to your story. So this guy dies, all the animals are down in Florida. Somebody on the board, he assembled some kind of board so the thing would be directed in the right way. They have some kind of agreement with the University of Miami Hospital or Research Center. Oh boy. Yep. monkeys became a business a gigantic business of outsourcing these mammals to be worked on for various shoot them up shoot them up yum yeah uncle george yeah he said eat them up shoot them up is that crazy yeah that's a little so driving down you know driving in the boat you know unsuspecting oh you know nice afternoon this boat comes up with all the chimpanzees hanging all over it was great but that was the only time i ever saw it believe it or not these chimps had names bunkie mandy sheila and liza who came up with those i have no idea the crazy guy anyway that's it for that okay rumor mill okay from australia haggis pinball centaur no next game is going to be eight ball deluxe nope it's not going to be a ballet game gorgar nope it's not going to it's not going to be a named game it's going to be their own theme. Okay.
    28:28
    War of the Worlds. Boring. Who cares? I'm not impressed. No, think about it for a second. Recognizable.
    28:41
    Sci-fi. Seems to sell. The big thing is, as long as you're not using images, it's an open license. so you know when you see the war of the worlds from help me the new jersey thing with the spaceship that had the long spider legs do you remember that yeah you can't use that unless you pay them oh really you could talk about it right but you can't use that image so it lends the question it's a good name war of the worlds identifiable but what are you going to do for graphics, certainly you can come up with a text or a plot. That's not real hard.
    29:29
    Hmm. I know. We had an attack from Mars. It's the same thing. I'm not making it. I'm just reporting the rumor. We'll see if it comes to fruition.
    29:42
    People who want that centaur, they're going to be peeved. I bet. If this game goes in between. I bet. Right. I think it's going to be El Stinkeroo. Okay, I got another item I found.
    29:54
    I found this one yesterday in a Xenon thread. Are you familiar with a remake board called GTO? It's not spelled letter G, letter T, letter O. It's spelled G-E-E-T-E-O-H. No. it's a replacement sound board for both xenon and they have a version for flash gordon i had never heard of this board doesn't sound like you have either no because they use it's a different board than the than the say it again board this guy also i guess makes a say it again board if i read correctly yeah i think i is he from uh england well i bought i bought a couple of those i have a couple i i don't know i like i said i only saw this yesterday i'll show you later Are we saying Say It Again or Squawk and Talk he makes? He makes Squawk and Talk, not Say It Again. The reverb is Say It Again, I think. Isn't it? Now you've got me all confused. Because Squawk and Talk is like the regular... Right, the regular single board. Yeah. The Say It Again is a board on top of a board. Yeah, it's a board next to it. It's a little daughter board. The only centaur has that one. I don't know. I'll do some more homework. But I had never heard of it. I thought you might have. So, no, you don't know anything about it. Those are my pinball related items I do have a I could do a like it or spike it if you'd like to do that With a bunch of games That I just collected And wanted to talk about Sure go ahead like it or spike it It's going to be another five games Like it or spike it So you're going to be able to comment on all five Let me go through them first Then we'll come back and go through them one at a time These are the five games an NBA fast break I forgot to talk about this when I went to the Lost Rhino Brewery that's number one number two, an EM from Gottlieb called Centigrade 37 Flash this was in the TPF Classics bank at the Texas Pinball Festival we actually did a show, number 73 on that game, which I completely forgot about oops I think I talked about this game in our last program, Genesis. One of our listeners, Glenn Wechter, said that's a game you want to go play. I've never played it, so I'm going to look for it. It's a Gottlieb. It's a Gottlieb System 80 Bees and Baker. And then the last game is a Spanish game from Sonic called Super Straight. Oh, yeah, I've heard of that one. Okay, so let's start.
    32:29
    Like it or spike it? NBA Fast Break. Spike. It's a weird game. It was fun to play, but I didn't... You're playing basketball. You're right. It was kind of weird. Set a grade 37. I like it, but way too easy. Okay.
    32:48
    Flash. I liked it as a kid in the arcade. I don't like it now. Kind of boring. And clunky. Very clunky. I got to pitch episode 73. That's when you talked about she came out of the toilet. She came out of the toilet? No, I remember this one. Katy Perry? Oh, yeah, Katy Perry coming out of the toilet. Yeah, it was great. The big red toilet? Yeah, the big red toilet. Yeah, she's talented like that. Okay. That's good. How about Genesis? Have you ever played that game? What an ugly back glass that thing is, or Translite. That is like, it has a... But have you ever played it? No, the back glass turned me away. I said, I'm not playing the piece of crap. Maybe, maybe... We've got some shows coming up. Just maybe we might see it. It has a little guy, the scientist little guy there, a little midget. Yeah, I vaguely remember. It's got this ugly girl with some bad teeth and stuff. It's got a lot of ramps on it, doesn't it? A lot of ramps, yeah. Plastic ramps, like ones that are going to break. Okay, okay. Yeah. We'll seek it out. We'll play it. We'll comment on it. Typically, ADB's Gottliebs are kind of... Hey, if you haven't played it, I mean, it's like all the new games. Everybody followed. Everybody talked about all five games. They're still talking about them. Which five games? Oh, the ones that all come out at the same time. Right. everything that they played or didn't play because lines were a half an hour or longer and i guess what was the game oh i guess scooby-doo if you know how to play it yeah the lines were long people were leaving the line because the gameplay was too long surprise surprise so ramp game with So TVF sounds like asses to elbows, stand and wait in line. No thanks. Right. It doesn't. No. Right. No, I wanted to just play it. Get in there, get out of there.
    34:33
    So Genesis, spike it or like it? Spike. Although just from the backlash I work, I have not played the game. Okay. Super straight.
    34:43
    Have you ever played it? I never played it. I've heard decent things. I could actually IPBD it right now. Yeah. I don't know where I saw that, whether it was in a tournament or somebody was playing it online, but it looked like an interesting game to play.
    34:59
    Again, because it's Spanish, the likelihood of playing one is probably pretty low. Oh, the guy out in Rob Burke, his big thing out in Ohio there, he's doing it. You think he's going to have this game? Yeah, because his claim to fame out there is having all these European games, a whole big bank of Sonics. Well, you know that's going on. Today's the first day. I did not know that. Not of Rob Burke, but of Pinbrew Fest. It's a colorful game.
    35:25
    Yeah. A lot of stand-ups. I don't know. It's worth playing once. I'd play it. I don't know if I'd like it, but I'd give it a shot. I'd give it a go. Okay. I found some other quick animal stories. did you see the cow from australia that has the smiley face naturally on its side no they call this cow happy but slow news day out there huh george hey you might like this one instead this was i don't know where this was but this was is what i would call the smartest gray parrot in the world. Oh, there he is. Happy. Yeah, there's happy. That's pretty cool, isn't it? Didn't someone take a magic marker and just call it on there? That's what I thought. What are the odds? Right, but that's pretty cool if it is right.
    36:23
    Yeah. Maybe he took an mRNA vaccine. Whoops. Uh-oh. Oh, boy. We're going down bad territory. Do you want to hear about this gray parrot?
    36:35
    Yes. They last for a long time. They last beyond the owner. They're also extremely smart. They're supposedly the smartest parrot this parrot go out and look it's actually very odd video but the parrot mimics a husband who has a chronic smoker's wheeze oh it's fantastic is this is the is the husband but it mimics it but is the husband dead and it's no no he's there going yeah well you know what sucks though the guy kicks but the parrot mimics it i know that i can just picture the guy kicking off and the wife's all alone and all she hears is the bird going constantly it's like that'd be depressing so wait a second so if it were me yeah i probably you teach it swear words no i don't think i would do that but if that thing was mimicking me doing that yeah you'd shoot it i think he might be flying away into the woods next door or barbecue Oh, yeah. So we have my stepmom-in-law. What? That's like 19 times removed. Yeah, stepmom-in-law. That's your neighbor. Okay. Yeah. She has an African gray, right? African gray called Precious. Oh, jeez. And the husband there, father-in-law, you know, Later in life he was having some aches and pains And he had medical problems let's say So he'd say like ow ow This kind of thing right So this bird would mimic all these things And go ow ow ow And then when he finally Kicked off The bird's still doing all this stuff It's like that sucks Well they live to be like 50 right 80 You have to gift them to somebody And they bite you If I've talked about this again forgive me but Beauregard the parrot when I was a kid family friends had this green parrot that they bought for their son now he was younger than I am by maybe 10 years but I sit and wonder if that thing's still alive he was a nasty you go up to that you go up to the finger in the cage near it and he would start you'd lose your finger that thing would take your finger off in a second i again but loyal to the owner they're like real loyal to the owner but everybody else they're nasty ass birds no a bird that would outlive me potentially so it's like an ashley judd bird she's a what actually just a nasty bird actually judd said that she said she's a nasty woman a couple years ago never mind you look it up folks without further ado all right there we go what's up doc what's up doc what's cooking what's up doc oh you're looking for bugs bunny bunting duck is gonna hunting just to get a rabbit skin, but now the rabbit's gonna get... What's up, Doc? What's cooking? Hey, look out! Stop! I'm gonna hoist someone with that old shotgun.
    40:02
    What's up, Doc? I'll tell you what's up, Doc. What? Pinball, of course. We went to... I had a bunch of calls in Connecticut to do. So we decided to get them all gathered together and rent an Airbnb in Connecticut. I'm going to allow you to pontificate on the Airbnb because I cut you off in the last program. You stayed in an old schoolhouse? Yes, an old schoolhouse. Yes.
    40:34
    And it was decent. Did you learn anything? Yeah. Ask more questions before you take an Airbnb. You sound like me.
    40:44
    Yeah. They mentioned they had a dog. It's like, okay, I like dogs, but I didn't really look into it. But they had, what kind of dog do they have? A St. Bernard. Oh, my. And St. Bernards are kind of drooly, kind of stinky. And they're also very large. They're large, but we never saw the doggy, never heard the doggy. But they were on the other side of the house.
    41:08
    There's one big part of the house here that we're in and another part of the house that they're in. And we never saw them. But, you know, at first we go in there, and I just open the door, and I smell dog. I smell like kind of like dog cheese. Like wet dog? Like dog cheese. Dog cheese. Yeah, dog cheese, like wet dog cheese, kind of like just like a drooly thing. Like, wait, did they mop up the floor with drool and use that for the thing? So it was kind of like, oh. You know, we like dogs, but not the stinky ones like that, you know. It's like, oh, I hope the whole place doesn't smell like this. This sucks for a whole week, you know. So we went into the kitchen area, and there was a nice little charcuterie board. How do you say it? Something like that. Charcuterie. There you go, charcuterie. One of those things. Had that, so that was nice. Cheese and meat. Cheese and meat plate. Meat plate. Since when did we get all French? I don't know. It's very fancy. So I had that and a bunch of snacks, all this kind of thing. As I started, I was like, oh, these snacks look really good. And I started looking at, you know, you and me, I'm a big ingredient reader. I was like, let's just, you know, they look really tasty. It's a, you know, chocolate chip and oatmeal bar thing. It's like, oh, it says all natural on it. Okay, that sounds good. Turn it over. fine print made with bioengineered ingredients okay that's a pass on that one what else we got next one different thing made with bioengineered ingredients pass there's only one thing there i actually eat and not you know have a take a chance with my health so so that was that's okay well that's that um so the dog gave me that then we decided uh you know it was getting late gonna go night night and uh the bed okay we get in the bed this thing was like a giant marshmallow now i'm used to a nice firm bed this sounds like my airbnb and people rave oh they're so good not necessarily i don't know man i'll take a i'll take a sad holiday in express over yeah you know a lumpy it's true it's true because you know the air close your eyes as long as the bed's good You close your eyes and there's no cockroaches. It's all good. Somebody's not walking off with your bioengineered fruit snack there. You're okay.
    43:15
    I mean, it makes me think, you know, maybe I gave hotels a short shrift here. Maybe I should rethink that because they are consistent. The bed's always good, this and that. When you go to a decent hotel. Well, you can also yell at them because they don't own it. It's like, this thing sucks. Right. and they're not going to take it personally it's like oh okay so if you do that to them what are those people going to do are they going to send Wolfie Wolf Wolf over to say hello spread some of the wealth so they get the marshmallow thing you can't even turn over ready to roll out of the bed it was such this big marshmallow fluff I think it was a new bed but it was so ultra plush it was too much a little bit of a backache front but it was okay and then then i woke up we had to did you stay oh we stayed there a whole week we had to what are we going to do four nights oh yeah so then we woke so we like to have to keep it kind of cool and they they had that nest thing you know a nest thing for google nest for the you know they and they all then maureen said did they pre-program it so you couldn't play with it oh i could uh they did pre-program but i could play with it i didn't realize my cheap son i didn't i didn't realize In the middle of winter down in Virginia? Oh, we don't set the thermostat higher than 64.
    44:31
    I'm like, excuse me? I'm painting your daughter's bedroom? Yeah, I think you go for a couple of drinks. Exactly. He even commented, my wife, she said, wow, our energy bill went up when you were there. Yeah, no shit. That's the cost of getting your thing painted. That's it. That's your paint cost. Go ahead. Are you done with your? Almost done. So a little more on that. So we like sleeping kind of cool at night, 66 degrees, and it's great. You know, I kind of got used to the bed and whatever. And the smell upstairs wasn that bad Downstairs smell was bad Upstairs was okay So I wake up at like 5 a It like I hot It like what the frick going on And I hear the frickin heat on And I go over there and the thing's on 70. It's like, how the hell is this thing on 70? And I looked, after like three days of that, the last day it's like, I figured out how to program it. Someone had a program to come on at 70 degrees at 5 in the morning for whatever frickin', who's gonna have it at 5 in the morning in an Airbnb? I don't get it. No, not me. But 70 frickin', 70 degrees. So I finally realized how to, you know what I did? I went through and I deleted all this stuff before we left. I was like, delete, delete, delete. It's like, you know, for the next guy to not be screwed over. Then I was going to leave. They said, oh, leave a review for your, you know. Uh-oh. It's like, I didn't want to leave a bad review for us. I didn't leave any. Right, but you should because the next guy is going to get poked just as bad as you did. But I don't want to. I understand. I'd rather talk to her in person, give her a personal review. Here's what we found. Give her a heads up, then actually publicize it. Because I've had some dinks out there do public emails, and they're really jerkheads. You know who you are, jerkhead. You are right to do that.
    46:10
    And Maureen found, behind a plant, look at this. We're being bugged. She found one of those Google Home things. Oh, no. Yeah, behind the plant. It's been on the whole time. And so I turned that thing off. Oh. Yeah, what's that for? The records behind a plant? What is that about? And then that makes you wonder, do they have a hidden camera somewhere? Who knows? Right? Wow. I didn't sign a release, though. Okay, we're done with the air. They never signed a release, so that's good.
    46:40
    No more Airbnb talk. So you went away for a week. So why were you repaired? Yes. How many pinball machines? What were they? Right. Give us the highlight. Five pinball machines. Count them. All by one person or multiple people? No, one person had one game. The other guy had four games. Okay. The one guy had a Gorgar.
    47:00
    He bought it from another one of these Facebook marketplace things. It said, oh, it works great. This and that. Clean up on L6. Yeah, it's fine. It's great. I put LEDs in it. Yeah. Okay.
    47:14
    And, of course, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. So I told him, it's like, well, it's kind of cautious. So they're like, okay, well, you're the guy. Well, it's either that or you've got a box of lights that doesn't work. And he spent like $1,600 on his Gorgar.
    47:28
    It doesn't seem awful. It doesn't seem great. Not great either. Especially if it doesn't work. Not if you've got to pay me on top of it. So, you know, whoever did the work put some – they did some work on the boards. I saw some board work in there, but the boards failed. The boards were – the whole game was locked up. So I said, well, you're going to need this new board in here, and you're going to do some other work here. So then he started, I brought everything with me in my car for all these games. The car was packed with stuff. So I got down there looking at the game, and the guy was so cost-conscious. He says, well, you're pretty pricey in my neck of the woods kind of thing. It's like, well, who else do you have down here to work on your game? Obviously you don't because I'm an hour and a half away. You called me, and I know what I'm doing. and some obviously Joe goofball over here didn't know what he's doing. So you've got to pay an expert sometimes. You've got to cough it up. So he said, well, let me – when you start working, I'll go into your car and get parts. It's like, you don't know what I need. I say, go get this thing that you're not going to know where the car can go. Oh, he thinks the five minutes of you looking for a part is going to save him? Yeah, exactly. Oh, he's really trying to make a living. He's saying, no, dude, dude, dude, just go watch TV. Then the whole time he's watching TV. He's watching these shows I can't stand, like freaking Ancient Aliens and all this other – History. channel, which is all false BS history. It's just a freaking planet make-believe show. And I kept making fun of it the whole time. I kept making comments. And Maureen said, I think he can hear you. It's like, I don't care. I kept reffing on the show the whole time. That doesn't sound like a good time. No, that was kind of annoying. Then he started telling me. Then after we fixed it, he was all happy, and they paid me. And then they showed me the truck. Oh, George, where's my camera? What kind of truck? A truck that you would know about. You're going to like this truck, George. It's only... No. Six in the world or 600 in the world? Yeah, and you would definitely know this truck. Let's see. Are you going to know this truck? You will. Only you would know this truck. Oh, here we go. Only I would know this truck. We drove into a show and got the ribbon right on it. I would know this truck. Yep. This one. You know that?
    49:33
    Okay, it's a Jeep. What kind of Jeep? It's a Willie. What year? I see a Willie Jeep. It's a 60. Is it a pickup truck? Is it green? Oh, the over. With the winch on the front. Yeah, the over, the cab over. I don't know what they call that model, but yeah, that is a very rare. Look at that with dual wheels on the back. He redid everything himself. He did all the wood himself. You know, Roy, for him, Argentina, that's an expensive truck. And I see something. What's the yellow one in the background? Oh, that's like a ZZ Top car. He's got this whole area, all these cars. So what's he doing? He's worried about a couple hundred bucks or a thousand bucks. Dude, come on. Give me a break. And a goat and a bunch of chickens. And a bunch of chickens and what else? A goat. And a goat. And he collects rocks. That's a cool truck, though. Yeah, I don't know what the model number is. And he put this in here. What is this thing you're getting for, Maureen? Oh, this is to fill your brake fluid up or something like that. Oh, look at that thing. But he got this off of Stanley's Steamer on eBay, and he put that as his brake fluid thing. He put it in there himself. He's very handy. he did this whole truck himself he got he this truck was a rusty hulk of nothing right but you're gonna keep talking about it nobody's gonna have the picture that's true so if you don't put the picture out on your website and or true well anyway you know you know at least well all these rocks he had all these rocks and so anyway so anyway so so you go to the next place which has got four games the next place yes next place has four games so next place has and so the really cool thing about this whole Connecticut adventure was every game was a different manufacturer. I had five different manufacturers. So you had to bring all the crap for every game. Yeah, every game. So Gorgar was that guy. Mr. Rock. Mr. Rock, Jeep guy. The next guy had a, he just got it in, he got a Weird Al Yankovic.
    51:23
    Oh, I forgot you told, we'll come back to that. Go ahead. Weird Al Yankovic, a Wonka, Wonka LE, I think. He had a Addams Family and a Stern 24.
    51:40
    Not that much money. No, but rare. Yeah, kind of rare. You don't see many of those. No, you don't see them out there. No, that's a pile.
    51:47
    First things first. Yeah. You've never worked on a Weird Al. You should never let that stop you. well i guess that's what i'm kind of asking is i'll give anything a shot once george what uh multimorphic right multimorphic yeah so what was wrong with it and i know electronics are electronics but you don't have parts for stuff like that i don't so what'd you do so what was he got it he got it brand new he set it up and the thing works great except for oh actually he set it up and something wasn't working he said basically the internal cable that was unplugged plugged in and it was working. The only thing that was not working on it was this stupid accordion thing. The topper wasn't right. You're supposed to do Mr. Accordion back and forth like Willy Yankovic doing the accordion deal. And you heard the motor running up there. Well, the accordion worked for about one game and then it stopped and the motor just kept running. It's like, okay. So I'm thinking linkage came off up there. So I basically said, okay, I'll hit that first. So I folded the head down. I looked at it and it's like, okay, I see this works. It's like an oblong motor gear, an off-center gear, and I saw a set screw. What, like oval?
    53:03
    Yeah, it's like a, you know, think of a steam engine, a locomotive, how that works, right? Oh, okay. One of those things. It's like that. Right, okay. Okay? Right. So this thing had a socket set screw in there, and I started turning it. It was really super loose. So obviously the motor's turning, the set screw isn't tight enough. I just tighten that up, boom. it started working again. So that was a quick fix. But he's got three more games. So that was one. And I told him, I'm going to be here for at least two days, probably three, because I need typically, it takes one day per game, unless you have some quickie things, it'll be quicker. But I think, I just know the Adams family, when he told me about all the problems with that, I said, that's going to be at least a two-day adventure. So the other games might be quick. So basically, I hit three games in one day and the Adams family was two days.
    53:55
    So the next game I hit was Wonka. And Wonka was a problem. Wonka he got back last year in, I don't know, October or something. I don't know, when Wonka came out. And day one he had problems with it. It was basically DOA. He basically unplugged. He was with the Jersey Jack people, unplugged this, unplugged that. And he knows computer stuff. you know he's like a computer network guy but he does not know this kind of stuff he doesn't know you know he knows ones and zeros yeah he doesn't know how to replace cables and connectors troubleshoot electronics yeah not really not a strong point but smart guy so he uh he started you know after a while dealing with them for a couple days and they still can figure out he just got frustrated he got busy it's like i don't have time for this and he just like let it sit there for months, for months, until he found me, and then I went down there. Right, but he's got other games that he could play. He does, but here's the problem. As the clock starts ticking, your warranty is ticking, and the game is DOA. Oh, he bought it brand new. Brand new. Oh, wow. He bought it brand new, but he brought it from, not from Jersey Jet, he brought it from a distributor, and I think the distributor, I think he's somewhere in Wisconsin or something, or some, I don't know. He bought on price, he didn't buy on service. Yeah, yeah. Dumb. Okay, well. Short money. No, it is. On an electronic, you know. I know. Don't you want somebody who can repair it nearby? Yeah, I learned my lesson, especially don't buy a big TV from Amazon. It's dumb. Don't buy it from Amazon. Buy a big TV local. Right, go to one of the big boxes. Best Buy or something. So I started looking at it, and I said, okay. I started unplugging things, and basically what it was doing is all these switches were all not reporting. Like about, I don't know, 75% of the switches weren't reporting, and you couldn't get them to go. And so with Jersey Jack's menu on there, it does show you a lot of stuff, a lot of troubleshooting stuff that you can actually kind of figure things out. So I started going through it. Then finally I got, I emailed them. They never got back to me. He said, let me go. I'm going to call them. So he called me. He got on the phone, brought me the phone. I started talking to their help desk people. And then we finally got it down to, we isolated the board from the game and it wound up being the main board has a fault in it. That's why. And I say, great, so you guys are going to cover this, right? This is a DOA game. He's like, oh, no, well, he can send the board in for repair, and it'll probably be a couple hundred bucks. You've got to. Or he can buy one for $600 for us. I go, no, no, no, no, no. You've got to be kidding me. No, no, no, no. I say, no, that's not going to work. I said, this guy, it's a brand-new game, guys. Back your game, please. Well, it's a couple months out of warranty. So what?
    56:36
    The game never worked right. And if he's got a file, that's all backed up in the file. I mean, come on. And he has all the data with them.
    56:47
    So stupid. What is it with these companies? I don't know. They don't want to stand behind their stuff. So then the guy in the tech guy said in the phone, he said, well, is there anything else I can talk to? He said, well, no, that's how we do things. He said, well, you should talk to your distributor. He sold you the game. He should stand behind it. He should be the guy you go to. so he called the distributor and he was very helpful he was like you know what I'm Joe Bob distributor I'm going to talk to Jersey Jack I'm going to get action for you as a distributor so day one went by nothing so it's still like radio silence he still wasn't getting you didn't call up and say do you know who I am I'm Dr. Dave I have a podcast I'll rip you I'm not going to do that but I could no you're not you didn't do that i didn't do that no but i basically said who i am tech wise and i know what i'm talking about and i know about service i know about all stuff and this is this you know this is a customer sat issue guys you know customer sat i've been in the business for a long time you're not giving a ringing endorsement to jack and company no i'm not right not for this part right now no you need to stand up you might want to have a little talk with somebody when you're at allentown because you know he's probably going to be there i think I will. I'll say, hey, here's what happened. Yeah, I would. Yeah, why not? I mean, because you shouldn't do this. Bad PR, man. Bad PR. You shouldn't do it. Especially if we're talking about it. Exactly. Okay, so move on. All right, so that was that. So that was that much fun. So we're... Well, meanwhile, while I'm doing that, Maureen is deep cleaning 24 and taking all the rubbers, all the black rubber junk. I hate that black rubber that Stern uses. They know that. Yeah, and it puts a nice... You rally on it every time. Well, they have to know. They have to beat that dead horse and kick it a couple of times. So she put all clear on there, cleaned the play field and all that, and LEDs, like nice warm white LEDs everywhere. The game looked perfect. I did a couple things with her on that too. So we knocked out those three games in that one day. We kind of touched all of them. So then we're on to the Adams family. That thing had all kinds of problems.
    58:51
    That was day three or day two? Wednesday. Wednesday? Yeah, Wednesday. We're on Wednesday now. Right, yeah, we're on Wednesday. Yeah, so he did all the flippers. We had to rebuild all the flippers. We had to rebuild basically just a giant two-day day spar in that game.
    59:10
    I think it had – I put some nice blue flashes in the cloud topper. That looks fantastic. New clear posts all around.
    59:19
    That new blue stand-up target we did. Oh, and I worked – what's that? Oh, yeah. And so I got it really going well, except for the thing did not talk at all. No sound came out of it. And I said, well, it's been down for several years. But I remember not talking. What does this guy do? Like buy a game, play it, it breaks. Buy a new one. Then it breaks. Just stack them up in the corner. And then, okay, now they all don't work. Call David. Someday my prince will come. And there I am. I came in the door. That is crazy. So I'm thinking, like, I know how to work on boards, but sound boards are not my specialty. It's like there's just way too much stuff going on with that. You know, I don't have an oscilloscope and that stuff with me. You know, I can do other simple stuff like connectors or whatever. So it's like, you know, so I started Googling around, and he actually Googled around as well for the sound board problem. And he said, well, this one guy here said it could be a RAM chip that goes bad. It's a possibility. It's like, not a bad idea. Okay, that's worth a shot. so I had an extra one of these RAM chips that the soundboard needed it's the same RAM chip that goes on the CPU board that everybody replaces with NV RAM so I have a crap load of these because I pull them out of the old boards and I don't need them but I just keep them good thing I did because I can use this to try it out so I solder sucked out the old bad suspect bad RAM put a socket in it, put my RAM in turn it on and I started getting sounds I go, wow. The guy was so impressed. I go, wow, you actually fixed it. But it started having the wrong sounds. Like the shooter rod doing a thing had the sound of Cousin It. This thing had the sound. So the sounds were mapped incorrectly. It was confused. Good question, why? I don't know. There's other things wrong with this board. This board has multiple problems with it. And this board is made out of unobtainium. You cannot find this. If you do find this sound board, it's going to cost you, I don't know. Nobody makes a remake? Victor makes one, but you've got to wait until August to get it. Who's Victor?
    61:25
    He's Dumas on Pinside. He makes all these awesome boards. He makes all these boards for all the RAMP games and stuff. He's actually the new board maker that he makes. But you've got to wait. You've got to wait and you've got to pay. How much did you say? I want to say between $300 and $500 for this board, this sound board. I think. But again, what's the alternative? A game that doesn't have sound. But you can send this board out. There are people who report. Well, what about the guy everybody always talks about? Clive. The other guy, Rob Anthony. I've never used him. But people rave about him. Yeah. They say he's really good. Right. Yeah, so there's a couple places. Right. So for about a hundred. The big boys who do, that's all they do is board repair. So for a hundred bucks, you can get this board repaired. Well. And especially the board. Send it out? Well, I had him send it. I'm not going to do it. Right. I said, he can send it out. Say, you can do this board, right? So, yeah, he can board swap. Say, here. So, you do it. Otherwise, you don't want me to do it. If I do it, you're going to pay for me to come down there. You're going to pay for me. You're going to pay more and more. I'm coming back. I'm going to have to come back. So, it's like I want to save the guy money. He's already paying me an arm and half a leg, never mind a whole leg. Right. So, he doesn't need to pay me. I've got plenty of your money, dude. I don't need to get more of your money.
    62:41
    So, yeah. So, he sent it off and he got that going. so I think he's running now or he's on his way to be running for that. But the game was actually playing fantastically. He said the game has never looked in place. So is that all four games?
    62:54
    That's all four games. Oh yeah, I did some cool things. I put green LEDs in the swamp. I put red LEDs in the... You and your LEDs. Well, I know. But they're tasteful LEDs. They're not the color-puked ones. You're not color-clown-puked or whatever people say. Okay. Thing's hand was all full of junk. So is that your Connecticut trip? That's Connecticut trip. Yeah, what I did. Now, I know you went to Cape Cod. Oh, wait. Hold on. Wait, wait. Before, one thing. One more thing, sir. We found this really good mom and pop breakfast place that we went to every morning. Mom and son. It's mom and son. She started right at the beginning of Tuesday. Oh, you're going to plug it? Yeah. Oh, well, go ahead. I've got to figure out what the name of the thing was. Oh, come on. Hold on. Oh, it was funny. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It's all about the name.
    63:45
    I know that. Hold on. I got it right here. Right there. I mean, we probably have two people that live in this area, but okay, go ahead. It doesn't, but the joke is in the name. When you name a restaurant, this is a great restaurant, because basically the name of the restaurant, because there's water right next to it, it's called At the Damn Restaurant.
    64:07
    At the Damn Restaurant. So basically, and she's really funny. so I say yeah you know we're going to have some coffee this kind of thing and we're going to have some friends come down and I just told them meet us at the damn restaurant they hung up the phone on me does that ever happen meet us at the damn restaurant well F you too you know so she liked that she goes yeah I've heard that I'm sure you've heard it many times before I said I like you can name your restaurant because it's very it's funny at the damn restaurant there's a damn right outside you know there's a damn right outside and it's like just the way she did the terminology So the food was really good. They actually made their own homemade corned beef hash, which was like the best homemade corned beef hash I've had in any breakfast place before. Usually it's like an Alpo dog out of the can. You said it, I did. It's Alpo out of the can. You know who makes it, right?
    64:59
    Hormel. I don't know. Right. Yeah. No, they do. I know. But you don't get it. I used to get it in number six cans when I did breakfast. Oh, no, no. I don't eat it. No, I wouldn't either. I mean, it's not, their product is not bad, but it's not homemade. When you compare it to homemade, it's a whole different story.
    65:17
    I've heard the story many times from people who like hash. To me, it reminds me when I was a kid opening up the cans of dog food. That's what it reminds me of. It is canned dog food. It reminds me of that. The noise of pop. Now that we lost everybody to go to the bathroom and puke their guts out, I'm guessing you're done with your exploits here unless you did something in Cape Cod and while you're deciding what you're going to say about Cape Cod shout out to John Jolly I thought my I gotta get back to him I never got back son would know you he did not know you but uh we are very interested in coming over and uh eating some of your oysters especially Rockefeller version no just regular raw ones well George likes the raw ones I'm more did you do a repair in Cape Cod no but we did do a repair next month we're going down next month to Cape Cod did you get stuck in the bridge traffic when we went to Cape Cod no because we don't go down Route 3 we go down the Bourne Bridge I heard from my friend Jim the other day at 6am in the morning it took people two hours to get off the cape. That sounds pretty good. Sounds like a plan. Great. I'm wondering how long this bridge repair is going to go. If it goes off.
    66:45
    I said to Jim, I go, you're not going to see me anytime soon, unless I come in the middle of the night. You should go down to the Bourne Bridge. You'd be better off. You'll be right back to 485.
    66:54
    So we did go to one other one, a Simpsons in Attleboro. now this one here the guy you know i always want to have people you know they tell me what their problems are with the game is okay send me some pictures i want to see you know what i'm dealing with so i can kind of give you an appropriate quote or a ballpark so you have any pictures in the game that actually looked it's like okay someone actually did some modifications to it looks like someone did some you know some inner graphics on the side rails they did some other stuff to the back box and they kind of looks like someone you know some new rubbers on the game It looked pretty clean but he said the game has all kinds of problems He said I just bought it little while ago from this guy on Pinside It like okay well that can be good or bad He said he totally LED it out this and that It's like, no, that's a bad sign. If he leaves with LED'd it out, that's a very bad sign. Yeah, he didn't take care of it. He gave it a great paint job, but the engine is blown out, which is what I found. I found this game has five flippers? Yeah, I think five flippers in this game. and all five flippers had problems they had like he's complaining about a sticky flipper well yeah because the flipper is hanging off in the bottom of the cabinet the coil is hanging off there's like one kind of a freaking wall screw through this and this and that everything was all stripped out and I had stuff with me I don't know if I have enough stuff for me to do this thing do they sell I don't even know what kind of flipper would be in that game Do they sell all the pieces for it? I mean, obviously the coils and that kind of thing. Yeah, I have, but basically it's the base plates that were all stripped out. So I basically had to get creative. I had some base plate material so I can kind of make it happen. I made it work. Everything I had, I got it to be bulletproof and solid and got it to work. But that was a challenge. Just working those five flippers alone and getting that, that took me like half a day to get that going, never mind the rest of the stuff in the game. And I got rid of all the color puke LEDs you had in the game. That was a stupid crap. El Cheapos. It sounds like somebody's getting some more LED. Jerry bulbs coming your way. More Jerry bulbs. So, yeah, so I did what I could on that. It was getting so late that, you know, we were there for like, I don't know, six or seven hours. And I could just tell he wanted to go out to dinner. It's like, okay, we're going to close it up. But, you know, I could do a lot more. I just want to tell you, I can do a lot more with this game. It has a lot more issues. This guy who sold it to you, he's a flipper. And I actually said, well, who's the guy? Did you know who it was? I got the guy's name, and I talked to my people. He's from Pennsylvania. I talked to my people from Pennsylvania. It's like, oh, I know him. It's like, he's a flipper. I go, yeah, I know he's a flipper. This guy paid $8,500 for this sentence. He overpaid for this thing. Yeah. This game should have been a $3,000 or $4,000 game tops, especially if you're paying my bill on top. And on top of that, he's going to have to go down again. But you know what, though? This guy is not poor. and I pull up to the house he has a brand new Dodge Hellcat and a bunch of like six other cars I never feel other than your buddy up in Weir it's few and far between I got a call from recently it's few and far between that I feel bad for anybody I just think that people don't do their research and they take people's word for it and then they get screwed we're a high trust society people just prey on it so I don't know I feel bad for him in that regard. You're the victim of a used car. But, see, now I get to be the guy who has to give him the bad news and the truth, because the truth hurts. Like, you know, you kind of got screwed. Somebody's giving him the truth. I'm going to give you the truth, and you're going to have to pay. But once you pay me, you're actually going to get your money's worth. You didn't get your money's worth the other guy, but for me, you will, because you're going to pay me pretty well, and your game's going to be nice. So there you go. Did you sell all those games that you advertised on here a couple episodes ago? Dave Golden picked up the Pinbot. Oh, okay. He bought that one. Okay. Yeah, he's hacked with that.
    71:01
    You had four games. I think you only sold two that I had. No, I had two different ones. The High Speed and the Pinbot. High Speed I still have. So the High Speed is still available.
    71:13
    I have an OXO. I'm leading you for a reason. Okay. How much do you think a player's version of Xenon should cost? Now, I don't know what that means, but it was phrased as a player's version of Xenon. These days, two grand.
    71:36
    Okay. I'm not going to call this person out. You can look it up on Pinside. It's real easy. Four grand. Five grand. $3,200. For players? Yeah. That's insane. that's what i thought made me feel good i hope they get that kind of money so players like because my my game i would call a player's game but my game's your game's a nice your game's not a player's game no but it's when these guys some faults to it but it's not perfect it's a lot of these pin side guys you know a lot of times they they'll say players think they put some more than a pin side guy oh you know who is oh i absolutely know who it is you know who it is too but I'm not going to say their name. They know who they are. Okay.
    72:19
    What state are they from? No, that would give it away. I can't do that. Okay. Let's just say this. They're not making enough money on games. They have to start a Patreon page.
    72:40
    I'll let it hang out there. Don't try to guess. Just let it hang out there. I guess on a Patreon. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah.
    72:47
    Wow. They've got a tin cup out there and everything, huh? Yeah. I can't stand that. It's becoming more and more popular. Was there one dumb tin cup lady at the end of the street when you came in? Was there a girl there out there today? There was somebody selling flowers down at the corner. No, flowers. If they're selling flowers, that's okay. They're selling something. This one is just like homeless, need a job. No, no, no. I didn't see that. And it's like there's plenty of jobs around. Somebody's selling flowers in the middle of the street. You know, get to work like everybody else. So are you done now? Are you done with the... Franklin. Hold on. Franklin. Where's the Franklin? Oh, no. I'm not going to mention that one. No, I worked... There's an embryo I did, too. I did a whole full day's run on that one. That was... Well, you can't talk about that because we still haven't done that game. And we have to. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That was... That was a weird... Let's just say it's a weird situation. Okay. Let's... That's probably not going to make it. But I got it running. That's probably going to be on the cutting room floor. Anyway, this is going to be the last time, folks, that Dave and I talk about this particular game for a long time. Dave, I'd like you to share with the audience, after our last show, what was wrong with the Centaur. And have you delivered it, or has the person come and picked it up yet? Game is still here.
    74:12
    because, as you know from last time, when the guy told me, it's like, oh, that had that problem since day one that he never told me it had. Did we say that before? We think we said that before. The problem with it... Well, no. I broke it. Yeah, you did break it. That was, yeah, you broke it. Right, but you were making fun of me, and I don't know if that was true at the time. No, that was true. That was you, because it was a combination. Because what that was, was the game was on that special setting where it was two strikes you're out. You get, this is the only game it has. It has a little warning thing in the back. I have the game, so I'm with it. Okay, okay. So the setting on there. And my Tilt Bob actually does work. Okay. It said a little generous, but it does work. Okay. So. I checked. Okay. Because you accused me of waltzing Matilda with that game. Right, right. I just treated it like I treat mine. Right, right. A little aggressive. You're a little aggressive. so between is a there was three things going on it was a perfect storm of what happened so why the displays are doing that wonky thing and kind of you know twinkling and then you you couldn't even play a game you go right to me instead of playing doing you because you bombed or the game thought you bombed out and did your two tilts you are done those are games again the second tilt the game tilt first the first tilt is a um is a warning and the second and the second tilt is you're done any other balls that are ready to be played you don't get to play game tilt so you do it on game first ball that's it you only get one ball okay so that's a super aggressive setting so i had it on that setting so there was that then the the little thumb screw on the plumb bob tilt i had that i had that facing towards the coin box area which also is near a wiring harness and by you shaking the game so much you got it hooked into that wiring harness which is why the game was like stuck on tilt all the time that's why it would tilt it through to my ball it would tilt through so it had nothing to do with any of the mpus nothing no it didn't but i did find a problem with one of the MPUs after we uh I still gotta talk to Andrew about this too here's it so just yeah so people know okay so I was really polite I did some creative editing yeah because we were not clear as to what the problem was and Dave did not want to shed light on something he was unclear of yeah it was being right yeah but since then you've had time since so you found something so so the problem with our tilt thing was not more related you know right you know um but it's me shaking the game you're shaking the game and the and the in the setting of the game of things that happened perfect storm okay yeah so that that resolved itself so that's all set but i did find a problem in software that i still need to tell andrew about because only his board does this as far as i know i know if an alt tech does or not and only on centaur as far as i know and i haven't done time to research it but so i'm trying to set it up so that, as you know on Centaur, there's really no way to get an extra ball because, you know, typically, because you get extra balls all the time when you do a horse. Well, you get multi-balls. You have multiple ways of getting a multi-ball. Right. But maybe on your game... The four lanes at the bottom. Right. Hitting the target up on the right. Yep. Hitting all the targets down on the left and eventually getting the standalone target at the end. Yep. So, yeah, there's multiple ways of getting... Multi-ball, but not extra ball. An official extra ball is a shoot again. Potato, potato, but right. Well, they're two different things. They are two different things. But that's why in this game they really don't have the typical extra ball light. Right. They have special lights. Now, in your setting, you have everything except for an extra ball, your threshold, and your specials. Yes. Extra balls. Okay. Everything. Because I want high score. Right. They've heard us debate this before. Yeah, it's okay. I just want to get it out there on the table. Right. Okay. So on this game, there's three ways to set this game up. You can have specials for your specials. So you have your specials equal nothing. You can have them equal 50,000 points. You can have them equal a free game. Or you can have them equal an extra ball. Right. So I started playing with it. I was like, okay, let's set the special equal to 50,000 points.
    78:36
    And it did it. It hit it for nothing and it did it. Extra ball did it. I said, okay, let's set it for specials so you get a free game. it can't give me an extra ball but excuse me we talked about this no if i can never get a special if they're reproducing the software exactly from mother valley right the original code right wouldn't you think that that code would transfer in its entirety you think unless there's something wrong with it on planetary pinball where he's getting it from because here's the thing i could not get with andrew's board with planetary pinball software in there i could not get his board to give me a free game for that special you use the motherboard and it worked you used i used i used the motherboard i used my original valley board it worked with with roms right i could get my i get a special extra ball i get all this stuff but with with the planetary software pinball with Andrew's board, I could not get a free game out of it. So that's it. So that fixed that problem. But I still need to tell Andrew about it. And so it's something that software or... So I lied. What did you lie? I lied. Because once you talk to Andrew... I didn't talk to him yet. Right, but I'm saying, I lied in that I said this is going to be the last time we talk about this. There'll be more. Right.
    79:57
    And one other little thing... You do this all the time. I know. It's kind of a soap opera. It's an entire soap opera. It's always a soap opera, these things. Especially when this guy said, oh, this guy... And I found out later on when I was talking to the owner of the game, oh, yeah, this game had a couple of ghosts in it. It's like, you didn't tell me about these ghosts. I thought these were new things. So I wanted to know it because did I introduce the ghosts or they always were there? Well, you're always going to face that if they don't tell you. Right. You're like, did I do something wrong? Did I do something? What did I, you know? So I was like, so now I know. The other thing that's weird with the game still is that sometimes it'll, You know sometimes when you get,
    80:35
    maybe you get, you want to shoot one ball out, I forget what it does, but you get maybe getting all the orbs down, it'll shoot one ball, and then you play the one, it'll shoot two balls basically. Instead of giving you all at once, you know, maximum orb you can strengthen, and throw all balls out, it'll throw just one ball sometimes. Why, because you only have one ball achieved? I guess so, whatever it is. There's certain things that make just one ball will come out when you're doing something. Well, it's either the four lanes at the bottom, the blue lights, or only one orb. There is no other way. What about getting orbs in order? Yes, you're right. You're correct. Okay, that gets you a ball. Yes. Okay, so one of those things, I've got to write it down exactly, but the game will start to... Maybe you should play it a few times. I'm trying to, but I'm so busy with other things.
    81:21
    I've been playing mine. You know what I need to do? I have a question. You know what I've got to do? I've got to take the glass off and just play it like that. No, that's not fun. I have to, because time is of the essence. I have no time to have fun.
    81:35
    Work done, work done. Are you done with your explanation to be continued? Being continued, because here's the problem I've got to figure out, the one last problem in the game, and it's intermittent and random and doesn't happen that often. The game will think it's a ball there that's going to fire out a ball, a free ball for you, a multi-ball, and I hear it going, pow, pow, like three or four times, then it gives up, and you're just playing your ball when you should have a multi-ball. but you lose your ball and everything's fine but the game thinks it's going to shoot a ball out and it never kicks a ball over to shoot the ball out but it thinks it has a ball to shoot out under the underground railway system there so I don't know, that's another and I'd still do to have John Day come over and play do a little play test so I'm going to say, hey, come on over, we can look at this together hey, come over, help me fix the game I mean, I didn't say that, did I? Hollywood Dave now you will hear the rest of the story.
    82:29
    So, now, I set up a time to do a Zoom call now. So we talked, he said, okay, I want to do more with you.
    82:38
    I want to have a couple of producers on a Zoom call with you. They want to check you out and make sure that you don't have an eye in the middle of your forehead. Complete sentences together. And that if they haven't watched you on the Boston Chronicle and the other stuff, they can check you out and say yeah this guy will work right he's he's got personality he'll work in the tv show yeah how did that yeah how do i exactly if i'm on the zoom call they can see how's this guy handle himself how does he talk is he gonna how's he gonna look on tv that kind of thing you're right it's like almost like a pre-interview like a pre-cast it's a casting interview oh it's the next step next if you if you weren't articulate by voice they certainly weren't going to take you to the next step right so you're on the next step so i said I said, okay, let's do that April 20th, and we'll do that at 1 p.m. That'll work for you. That'd be great. I said, yeah, it looks great. So then I get an email two days after that, and it said, hey, David, hope you're well. Thanks again for being possibly interested in being part of our latest season. So we just heard from our producer this morning that they ended up going with a pinball item and a restoration in the city we are currently filming in, not the Boston location. Ah, the joys of TV. Things change on the fly. So for now, I think we can hold off on doing the Zoom call. However, should this change again and they would like to film an additional pinball restoration, we'd love to reach back out to you. Thanks again for your time on the phone the other day. We are always looking for great experts, so we're still happy we connected. We may likely have another project in your area soon, and we'd love to consider you again. So I'm off the Hollywood Day book for now, and I'm kind of relieved about it, but I am humbled by it, and I like being considered. It's a great thing. I got nominated for an Emmy. But, you know, the cheapos in TV, you're out of pocket for a handful of days. Right. I mean, that'd be like asking an electrician, a plumber, somebody else, and saying, hey, you know what, scrap your day job for a couple of days, take the hit, and just come on our TV show, and you might, might, I'll use that word in, you can see my thingies, quotations, you know, might make some money at the back end. You're not making any. long and short of it is i don't care you're not making any money unless they find that proverbial adams family for three thousand dollars which they're not going to find and you've got an uptick of another 10 grand on top of it yeah great you might make some money but unless you're getting one of those you're not making a freaking dime here's what i'm wondering too now at the same time he's contacting me about the boston thing they they're like an octopus they have multiple things across the country multiple producers and people looking for someone like me and a place that has games and that kind of thing. They've been looking for, he says, combing the country, looking for games, possibilities, and people like me that can pull us all together. They don't care what city it's in as long as it all matches up. Now, you know, could it be, you know, the questions they're asking me about, you know, would I put this on or would I maybe, you know, take this experimental concoction or whatever, and I said no on that. Maybe that put me, well, who cares? That's the way I am, so whatever. But I think the other side of it is that they must have found somebody who said, oh, yeah, I'll do that. I can do it within two weeks, and I can do this. Basically answering yes to all their things, but good luck to them. They give him like some EM, some trashed EM, and he's going to take two weeks to do it. I don't know what they're going to do. It'll be interesting to see. I can't wait to see. I want to watch the episode. To see who, what, and where. Right. I'd love to see it. I'd love to see how it goes. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the show. If there's an item that I want to see, that's the only time I'll tune in. Right, so I want to see this episode with the pinball thing. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But here we are in April.
    86:21
    I mean, when's that going to be? Next fall? Next winter? This was going to be, well, this was supposed to be scheduled. The Boston one is supposed to be scheduled for, and I think they are going to still do a Boston one. Right, but I'm saying scheduled and recording it, it still has to be edited. Right. You know, when's their season start and end? True, true. You know. Yeah, next year sometime. Right, so it's probably fall, winter. Yeah. It's got to be. It's not going to be now. It's recording now. Right. And everything's on replay anyway over the summertime. Yeah, so they're making things now for later on. So this is going to be in July. I'm sure one of our lovely podcast listeners, if we don't see it, will tip us off and say, hey, here it is. Maybe you want to watch. Speaking of podcast listeners, George, great segue, by the way. I just now got an email. From whom?
    87:15
    On Pinside. The subject line is Classic Pinball Podcast. I just got a Pinside just now. Okay. So let's go live with this. This is from Pinsider Methos.
    87:28
    Hello, Dr. Dave. Just want to say that I am enjoying the Classic Pinball Podcast and going back in time and listening to the older ones. I admit that at first I was trying to figure out the format and all.
    87:40
    Now you and everybody else. Yeah, join the club. It only took us about 100 episodes to figure out a format. You know, that's how we kind of figured this thing out. It's like season one, season two, season three. But I get it now. And it's refreshing from everything else out there. Thank you. Somebody actually gets it. They get it. You get it. You called it, though, something. You called it the pinball variety show. Did I call it that? Yes, you did. Okay. All right. It works, actually. It works. because that's kind of what it is. It is. Pinball variety shows. It's not the same old crap. It's something different. No one's doing this. But I get it now, and it's refreshing from everything else out there. You two really work off each other well and enjoy the back and forth with the segments. Keep the repair stories coming. Love them, and it helps me as I'm working through my pinball problems on my games. I love the older games as well, and the classic sterns are my favorite. Not all of them, but the ones at the top, Nine Ball Stargaze, a Dragon Fist, Quicksilver, are like none other. Thanks. Mark in Madison, Wisconsin.
    88:41
    Okay, Mark. Thank you, Mark. We'll take that. You know what, Mark? You win a Grippa Grapefruit IPA. Send us your address. If you survive.
    88:52
    If you survive. You've been listening to the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. His name is Dave.
    89:00
    This is kind of turning into a monthly, folks. Long form. It seems to work. Everybody likes it. So we're going to continue with that format. so everybody be well stay healthy and uh we'll uh see you in about a month and this is dr dave here saying uh be blessed happy uh don't stay safe but i will say uh take lots of chances out there because life is risk and that's worth living stay lit and tilted who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored Dr. Dave!
    89:36
    Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! Right. But George, you don't know what you're saying. You're under their control. George!
    89:50
    George! This joker's not only stupid, he's a moron besides. I heard that. Thanks for the compliment. Hasta la vista, baby.