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Special When Lit pinball crew unites!

Flip n Out Pinball·video·2h 28m·analyzed·Apr 5, 2022
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TL;DR

JJP's Ken Cromwell teases two possible 2024 releases and discusses designer hires while hosts share TPF/Expo event stories.

Summary

Ken Cromwell from Jersey Jack Pinball joins Flippin' Out Pinball hosts for an extended stream discussion covering TPF attendance, show logistics, JJP's production recovery post-Guns N' Roses, and upcoming game announcements. Ken hints at two potential releases this year and discusses newly hired designers Steve Ritchie and Mark Seiden. The conversation is largely informal, meandering between personal anecdotes about industry events and strategic business updates.

Key Claims

  • Jersey Jack Pinball aims to release two games per year and is closer to that goal than ever before

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell states: 'You've heard Jack Guarneri, the company founder, and he's talked about how the goal here with the company is to get two releases out a year... I think we're closer now than we've ever been to that goal. So it's in the cards, I believe, right now to have potentially two releases this year.'

  • Guns N' Roses collector edition sold out within an hour (500 units)

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'the collector editions of Guns N' Roses came out and they sold out, I don't know, within an hour. And that was 500 that were gone.'

  • Guns N' Roses limited editions are capped at 5,000 units but not made sequentially

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'The limited editions are limited to 5,000 units, and they're not made sequentially. So on day one, if your limited edition is up, you could be like, hey, I want number 5,000, and you'll get that plaque for 5,000.'

  • If someone orders a Guns N' Roses game today, they might find one with a distributor or receive it by May

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'if you ordered a game today of guns and roses you might be able to find one with the distributor or you'll have one in may'

  • JJP hired Steve Ritchie and Mark Seiden as new designers

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'you guys have hired two new designers, right? Well, Steve Ritchie... and Mark Seiden, who came over from the homebrew community. He had the Metroid pinball machine.'

  • Mark Seiden specializes in implementing theme/license into ball reaction mechanics on playfield

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'he really knows how to take a license or a theme and implement it into how a ball is reacting on a play field.'

  • Two potential releases from JJP are possible in 2024, though the year is already well underway in April

    medium confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'I mean it is possible I wouldn't come here and even say that if I didn't think that it was it is possible... you guys are firing on all cylinders'

Notable Quotes

  • “I think we're closer now than we've ever been to that goal. So it's in the cards, I believe, right now to have potentially two releases this year.”

    Ken Cromwell@ 36:24 — Major business indicator: JJP teasing accelerated release cadence and hinting at two games in 2024

  • “When these games are that good it makes the marketing pretty easy... the games are kind of selling themselves, you know, with a little bit of sprinkling of creative marketing.”

    Ken Cromwell@ 37:19 — Industry insight on JJP's market position and marketing philosophy

  • “I literally hear this daily. I'm stunned by it... there's a ton of people... don't even know that games... are still being built.”

    Ken Cromwell@ 37:48 — Market assessment: significant untapped audience unaware pinball manufacturing continues

  • “GNR was the best launch of any game, in my opinion, to date.”

    Unknown host@ 33:23 — Community assessment of Guns N' Roses commercial/cultural impact

  • “I would be surprised if we saw another game take two years after the next one.”

    Host (Greg Bone or Ken Cromwell context)@ 35:52 — Implicit acknowledgment that the Guns N' Roses two-year gap (Oct 2020-2022) was aberrational

  • “He's with a new company. He's with a new team. And, yeah, he's in a good spot right now. So I'm happy for him.”

    Ken Cromwell@ 35:35 — Positive statement on Steve Ritchie's transition to JJP, indicating strong cultural fit

Entities

Ken CromwellpersonJersey Jack PinballcompanyGuns N' RosesgameSteve RitchiepersonMark SeidenpersonJack Guarneriperson

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Two-year gap between Guns N' Roses (Oct 2020) and next JJP release was unprecedented and atypical for company ambitions

    high · Host: 'I would be surprised if we saw another game take two years after the next one.' Ken Cromwell: 'nobody wants to go two years between games. it's a long, long time.'

  • ?

    business_signal: Guns N' Roses production backlog clearing; new orders now fulfillable within 1-2 months rather than 12-18 month wait

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'if you ordered a game today of guns and roses you might be able to find one with the distributor or you'll have one in may' and 'We didn't want to have where, you know, we were so far behind on orders where people waited 12, 18 months for a game.'

  • ?

    business_signal: JJP targeting two game releases per year; claims to be closer to this goal than ever; hints at two possible releases in 2024

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'the goal here with the company is to get two releases out a year... I think we're closer now than we've ever been to that goal... potentially two releases this year.' Also: 'I wouldn't come here and even say that if I didn't think that it was it is possible'

  • ?

    community_signal: Chicago Pinball Expo venue change creating different atmosphere; reduced food/dining proximity compared to previous location; hosts prefer older location

    medium · Host: 'The changing of the hotels at Expo this year, it created kind of a different atmosphere... going back to TPF... has a different feel... there's not really a place that you can walk outside from the Expo parking lot without really getting a ride somewhere.'

  • ?

Transcript

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0:00
you Thank you. Well, it's Monday night The week has begun I turn on the switch First and still, they're awesome Drink your Coke, so max it high I'm tripping out of dreams And Bill and Sweetie make a hell of a team I'm from Chicago With shirts that take flight Sunday night pinball's coming on tonight Are you ready for some pinball? A Monday night party Yeah We're living now I hope I just get to do my Show to y'all Woo Love and sing my song I don't wanna be right All my night of friends are here for Monday night
10:57
Hey, everybody. What's going on, everybody? What's going on, Chuck? We have good old Ken Cromwell. From Zergy Jack. Thin Ball Marketing and Communication Specialist. Thanks for joining, buddy. Outstanding. Thanks for having me. Yeah. I appreciate it. It's been a hot second. Yeah. We've all streamed you for. Two years. You know what's amazing? Is it really? Watching the promo or the intro to Monday Night Pinball, I loved it. Oh, yeah, baby. It's a little clip of Chuck Ernst in there. That time we were laughing about hooking up in stadiums to my wife. Yes, to your wife during pregnancy contractions. Yeah. I remember. Good times. Well, it's good to be back. I also noticed the Flippin' Out promo has gotten a little longer. Yeah, it's longer. It's solid. It's got all the new fun stuff. That's Flippin'. For sure. Chats here. Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up, everybody? Lord Helmer, thanks for the subscription. 26 months. Let's go, baby. Hey, 26 months. Woo. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo.
12:15
Ah, damn. What's up, everybody? Thanks for the bits, buddy. Yeah. Still haven't hit Tony Scoots' belly.

  • JJP moved the pinball company from New Jersey to El Croix Village, Illinois during the pandemic

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'during pandemic they moved a whole pinball company from jersey to elcro village illinois put a great selling game on the line and have been manufacturing the hell out of it ever since'

  • Approximately 60% or more of the general population doesn't know that new pinball games are still being manufactured

    medium confidence · Ken Cromwell: 'I would guesstimate 60% or even more don't even know that games... are still being built.'

    • Texas Pinball Festival
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    Chicago Pinball Expoevent
    Flippin' Out Pinballcompany
    Greg Boneperson
    Billperson
    Steveperson
    Chris Franchiperson
    Zachperson
    Ed Van Der Veenperson
    Wesperson
    JJperson
    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Premiumgame
    Iron Maiden Premiumgame
    Lord of the Ringsgame

    community_signal: Texas Pinball Festival showing increased younger player demographic participation; new structured layout with rows; strong attendance

    medium · Host: 'I also noticed it seemed like there was a lot of new, fresh faces, younger people coming into the TVF, which is something that's, you know, for pinball, it's huge... it seemed a little more structured with rows... it was full. It was packed.'

  • ?

    community_signal: Ken Cromwell actively involved in pinball community via Jersey Jack Pinball Podcast; maintains engaged marketing approach

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'For those of you that don't know, I do host the Jersey Jack Pinball podcast for Jersey Jack Pinball' and discussion of marketing strategy focusing on sharing games and educating market

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    market_signal: Significant untapped market awareness: approximately 60%+ of general population unaware that new pinball games are still being manufactured

    medium · Ken Cromwell: 'I would guesstimate 60% or even more don't even know that games... are still being built' and 'I literally hear this daily. I'm stunned by it.'

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    market_signal: Guns N' Roses collector edition (500 units) sold out within one hour; LE edition capping at 5,000 units non-sequential

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'the collector editions of Guns N' Roses came out and they sold out, I don't know, within an hour. And that was 500... The limited editions are limited to 5,000 units, and they're not made sequentially.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Mark Seiden (homebrew designer, Metroid machine) hired by Jersey Jack Pinball as designer

    high · Ken Cromwell: 'Mark Seiden, who came over from the homebrew community. He had the Metroid pinball machine. Mark's a super intelligent, bright guy...'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Steve Ritchie (legendary designer, 'Master Flow') hired by Jersey Jack Pinball as designer

    high · Ken Cromwell explicitly states: 'Well, Steve Ritchie... and Mark Seiden... you guys have hired two new designers, right?' and 'he's with a new company. He's with a new team. And, yeah, he's in a good spot right now.'

  • ?

    product_concern: GNR launch was unprecedented success in industry; positioned as best game launch to date

    high · Host: 'GNR was the best launch of any game, in my opinion, to date.' Ken: 'That was unprecedented... the collector editions... sold out... within an hour.'

  • ?

    business_signal: JJP marketing strategy emphasizes game quality and word-of-mouth over aggressive marketing; targeting awareness expansion in general population

    medium · Ken Cromwell: 'When these games are that good it makes the marketing pretty easy... the games are kind of selling themselves... marketing for us... is more about getting the message out... reaching people that there's still a big part of the population that doesn't realize pinball is being existed'

    • 12:27
    No? Yeah, no. Hey, so Tony Scoots brought in something to the Jersey Jack pinball. It was, I think, the end of last year. And it was the first time that anybody there had a chance to eat any of the bakery or any food stuff. And, of course, nobody tells me that it's back there until everybody ate it. It's gone. I told Tony, I said, hey, man, I appreciate it because I saw him at Expo. I said, thanks for feeding those guys.
    12:50
    I missed out. That was good, though. Yeah. They told you purposely late. I'm sure they do. I'm sure they did. Tony, what town of Expo? I know you were just at Expo. Good times. No, at TPS. Texas Pinball Festival. Yes, yes. Sorry. It's an awesome show. I mean, anybody that's been there before kind of knows what TPF feels like and what it is. Expo has always been my favorite show. It's local. The changing of the hotels at Expo this year, it created kind of a different atmosphere, if you noticed that, right? Yeah, big time. And then going back to TPF and kind of being in that kind of hotel, ballroom, carpeted environment has a different feel. So, you know, to each their own. They both offer something unique and different. So we were at TPF in 2019. Yeah. Was TPF this year or the year we went? So in my opinion, it seemed like there was a lot of traffic going through TPF. I noticed, and maybe it was just the way that the layout was, because in 2019, I remember walking through TPF and really not being able to walk through it in an organized fashion. It was kind of like a maze, right? It was kind of like a maze. Like you're going in and you're Pac-Man-ing around. For sure, 100%. So you would have to go back, you'd have to circle back and try to get through there two or three times. This time it seemed a little more structured with rows, and I don't know if that kind of created the presence that there weren't as many vendors there, so to speak. Like you couldn't pick up as many little trinkets and whatnot, but it was full. It was packed. I also noticed it seemed like there was a lot of new, fresh faces, younger people coming into the TVF, which is something that's, you know, for pinball, it's huge. We've got to get the younger generation interested. And Texas Pinball Festival didn't disappoint. So, you know, kudos to everybody who put that on. Ed Van Der Veen and team, it was great. It was really, really fun. We were bummed we missed out. So we'll be making a futile effort to get down there next year. The hard part, you saw everybody partying and posting pictures. I was like, you know, I should be down here instead of watching my son right now. That's ultimately what happens. It's like you decide not to go to a show, and you convince yourself it's the right decision. And then the day of the show, you're watching online. Everybody's posting their pictures and everybody that you wish that you would have seen, and you have instant regret right away, and it's like, oh, man, I should have went. I was glad that I went this year, and I expect to see you guys next year. Oh, 100%. Listen, just because I was so bummed, I made a stiff drink, right? I jumped in the hot tub and put my earbuds in so I could hear all the awards going on. You know what I mean? That's outstanding. And it was nice, but it still wasn't like being there. I mean, yeah, it was a strong third place, but whatever, man. It's cool. Yeah, I got kind of screwed over with the wedding, but you know what happens. Family stuff. Yeah, you were out of town. Yeah, it's all good. Yeah. It's all good. I had a good weekend. This chair is like, I just keep going left. It's all right. Dude, you want the stool?
    15:40
    No, no, this is good. I think it's here. You want this chair? The non-moving Jarrett? No, no. It's literally my uneven garage floor. I'm usually on a side. So for me to have the aisle, or not the aisle, or the window, it's kind of like, all right. Bill wouldn't give up this ride. And I've got to drive, so.
    15:58
    I'll drive you. You know, listen. I'm going to save you. I'm driving. You're driving. I mean, I'm driving the stream. You're driving. Bill picked me up on the way here today, so that was pretty nice. Last time I was here was for the Epic Expo tailgate party. and it was one of those situations where it was October. Yeah. So like Ubers were still kind of hit or miss, right? So at one point I just asked my wife, I'm like, hey, do you mind just dropping me off over at Beatty's house and then I'll just Uber back home later that night. I didn't want to drive. I was probably going to have a couple beers. Shouldn't be a problem, right? That shouldn't be a problem. Get out there. My wife, or my dad, my dad dropped me off because my dad has clothes. Oh, you're right. Yeah. So I'm like, hey, dad, do you mind dropping me off? So it's like literally my dad's dropping me off at like a party. You have fun. And then later that night, I don't remember what time it was, but there was no Uber getting out of here. One or two. No, it was like 12? Okay. It might have been two. It might have been like 12.30 when you tried.
    16:51
    And it was like a power of like, oh, my gosh. So I reserved an Uber. And you know how you can look at the app and you can kind of see where your Uber driver is? So I'm watching him in real time drive further and further away from the pickup destination. So then I called my wife and had her pick me up. So as a man in his 40s, right, a father of three, married for 20 years. Oh, yeah. I had my dad drop me off at a party where then my wife picked me up.
    17:17
    It was an interesting dynamic. I don't think I told you I would have taken you home, but I had a trailer, and you were like, oh, no, no. I got an Uber. I mean, it sounds like I'm not going to be able to get on an Uber. And then I heard about the aftermath, and I was like, oh, dude, that's a little bit of aftermath. But, you know, it's my wife's credit. Thank you. She didn't make me feel guilty. You're still married. She's the one that I called. Still married. That's good. Absolutely. Going strong. Hey, Bob. Thanks for that subscription there, buddy.
    17:42
    Bossed for hire. So what's been going on here, gentlemen? What's been happening? Pinballs? What's been happening?
    17:51
    Pinballs? In general or in the stream or in? Oh, Captain 12 says it was great talking numerous times at TPF. Nice. White Sox greater than Cubs, I remember. It's good to see you here in chat. Was that a Friday night conversation? There's a lot of conversations. The days all kind of blend together. There were long days working the booth at Jersey Jack Pinball. Yeah. But, you know, it was a rewarding experience. It's different. Well, it's different going down there and working versus going down there and just being with the general public. Well, when we went, I mean, let's examine, you know, our typical evening when we were down there. Stay up until 4 or 5, talking and hanging out with people, right? Waking up at noon, trying to get motivated by 2 to go get something to eat. Then it snowballs from there. And then it snowballs. We're not drinking. We're not drinking today. Right o'clock, that changes. Yeah, when you're working those shows, consuming alcohol is not on your priority list at that point. Yeah, no doubt. It's getting through the days. I was talking to Steve Ritchie because Steve was down there also, and he had a talk one night with Jack at TPF, and he was in my office yesterday. And he's like, hey, how many steps did you get in at TPF? And I'm like, you know, I didn't even think about counting my steps. I have this aura ring, and it keeps track of your steps and body temperature. So he opens up his phone because he's got an app, and he's putting up like 18,000 steps, 22,000 steps. See this? Steve, I was like, wow. So I opened up mine, and I wasn't quite there. I was like 17,000, 18,000 steps. That's a lot of steps. Yeah, but, dude, by the end of the night, you just have to be done walking. Yeah, it's pretty tiring. It's pretty tiring. It's fun. It's fun tiring. That's the thing. You get done working the show. It's like 12 o'clock at night, and, you know, typically you're like, hey, let's go out and have some fun. I could do that one night. That was it. The other nights, I was so happy to just get the whole time. I was watching reruns of South Park and that whole thing on Comedy Channel late at nighttime, and I was never happier to lay down in a bed and not be out partying and having fun. So that was the fun. The fun was going to bed. It's just relaxing. No In-N-Out Burger, no Whataburger, no Concrete Cowboy, none of that, huh? No, no, no. So for those that get down there, I think the appeal is In-N-Out Burger. A lot of people want to go there. I personally, we liked Whataburger better than In-N-Out when we were back there in 2019.
    20:02
    This time around, it was DoorDash, and I was just literally kind of hitting the deli. Yeah, you don't have time. It was like a half a mile from TPF. You can't move from an hour and a half, two hours. There's some food trucks out there, too, which had some pretty good food. So for those of you that are wondering what the food situation is at TPF, that is the one thing that I would like to see Expo implement, is having some food trucks maybe in the parking lot, if it makes sense. Yeah. Because there's not really a place that you can walk outside from the Expo parking lot without really getting a ride somewhere. Yeah, it's like you're driving or Ubering from the new Expo location for sure. That's the hard part of where it's at now. I mean, the last location, literally you had a stubble in the parking lot. You had Twin Peaks. You had Spears. Yeah, Spears. I've got some history at Spears.
    20:49
    Last time I went in there, they had a picture of you on the wall. I'm sure they do. You're not allowed. You're not allowed to be on this tour. That was from a long time ago. That was a great night, though. But that was a fun night. That was a fun night. That was a night that we were hanging out with Chris Franchi. Yeah. Yep. Zach. That was one of Chris Franchi's first impressions of me, and he was not impressed. Same belief. So I was like, hey, you know, reestablish myself as a nicer guy. But we had a hell of a time, though. It was fun. It was worth it. It was absolutely. They always are. I mean, every pinball show, it's worth going to. Yeah. If you have one local, if you need to fly around the country, I'd say get to one, right? I'll tell you what. This year with my daughter, I'm telling them, like, you've got to take, like, Friday off. I'm not getting her off the bus at 3 o'clock waiting for you to get home at 5 and then going up there. That's hard. You've got to be home. That's hard. Do the whole thing. Pretend like you're 12 hours away versus. I might. I might do that for at least two days because, I mean, this year was brutal. I was like, oh, you've got to be home, you know, 3.15 to get her off the bus. Yeah, you were in and out all weekend. Oh, you know, it would be nice to have you home for dinner. Well, that's the thing. That's always on your mind. So regardless of what you're doing or where you're at, you know you've got to be somewhere. People are depending on you. And the way Bill drives, I mean, he's home. It's a 10-minute drive. 45 minutes for everybody else. It is real quick from here. It is. But, yeah, that was the hard part. But it was worth it. Ran into some fun people down there. I saw Wes Bentley down there. Wes gave me my new Rebels guitar t-shirt. Oh, that's nice. That's a nice one. I've always liked the Rebels guitars. West of Sight. Yes. Rubble Guitars. Hit West of Sight. So it was good seeing him.
    22:24
    A lot of people just wanted to run into him. I do remember that. The donkey kick was ridiculous. Did that happen again? I don't know. I stayed on. The CPF? JJ, who's the distributor for Stern, for JJP out in Colorado, what he typically does at these pinball shows is he has a suite, like a presidential suite in the top. And then you go up to the top of the suite, there's a few pinball machines in there. There's drinks. There's a spread. There's people. It's like a VIP access room. And he's not stingy on sharing where the location is where you can kind of come out and play these games. But last time, was that TPF or was that Expo? When it was like 3 or 4 in the morning and Zach's like, hey, you want to go to JJ's? And I was like, no, it's too late. And he's like, follow me. He gets a whole group of people. I'm sure I've told this story before.
    23:11
    I don't know. It was late, 2, 3 o'clock. I remember hearing the story because I left because it was getting late that night. It had to have been TPF. No, it was here. Because I remember the next night I talked to you, you were like, dude. It was here because. But you were working. Oh, so, okay. So, yeah. 2019. No, no, no, no, no, no. Ken was already working for JJP. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, this was before that? This was before that. This might have been like Expo 2018 or something like that. Yeah. I don't know. That day's not important. It's more of a story. Okay. So the story basically is. 2019. There's no punchline anymore. Because Billy was born and I barely made it to Expo. Back to the date. I'm a burrito. 2019? Maybe it was. It was 19. What are we talking about? JJ. Donkey kicking doors. Yeah. Yeah, so Zach goes upstairs 2, 3 in the morning with, you know, the Pied Piper with everybody being led through the hallways and proceeded to do this loud donkey kick right on the door. And I don't know how the cops didn't come because if I was in any of the hallways, it was really, really loud. Dude, like multiple heart attacks happened that night. To JJ's credit, that door opened up. He had, like, security in there. They look this over, they let us come in, and couldn't have been nicer. You know, they're like, hey, help yourself some chips, some dip, or some drinks over there. It was amazing.
    24:26
    Poor Man's Pinball podcast, they were up there. Ian and Drew at that time. Oh, yeah. We were playing Elvira's House of Horrors. It was relatively new at that time. Yep. We were playing that game. Yep. I think that's the infamous shirt-giving night. Elvira was not up there. We thought she was. That's what we thought. Elvira was not up there. That was 19. Yeah, because my son was born, and I literally went to Expo for, I think, one hour. Okay, if it was 19, then it was TPF, because there was no Expo in 19. TPF was March.
    24:56
    No, every time at Expo or – Oh, no, was that the last one? No, it was Expo. Dude, when we were at TPF, we all went everywhere as a group.
    25:05
    It was 18, so we missed 19, 20, and then we just had 21. What is this? Like, how old are we? It's Expo 18. It's like three – you know what happened? COVID screwed up everybody's timeline. I don't know what's going on. It was Expo 18, and then we skipped two years. We skipped 19, 20, and we just had it in 21. So it was Expo 18. There was no Expo 19. You're right. There was. No, because 2019, there was TPF. And Expo. And then there was Louisville Arcade Expo that we went to in March. No, no, no. No, that was 20. Was it 20? Yes, because everything shut down in 2020. Take a break. March 2020 was when they shut down TPF. You're right. Louisville was March 3rd, March 4th of 2020. We were in Texas. And my son was born in 2019. Okay. Remember he was born the week before Expo? You're right. I made it up. That was about, what were you? That was 2019. Okay. Yeah. So it was, I'm telling you, it was Expo. I know my dates.
    25:59
    Was that where Elvira was? Was she at Expo or was she at TPF? No, she was at Expo. Okay. Yeah. So then that would have been it. Yep. Okay. Cool. That's right. I do remember that now. Well, it took us about seven minutes to figure out where the hell we were and what year it Welcome to the Pimpin' Out Pinball. That's good. 220, 2019.
    26:18
    Louisville Corona Couch was the last show before TPF. That was when Zach had set up the Stranger Things Experience. You weren't allowed to bring that home, were you? This was when COVID was just hitting. And it was at the time where people were still unsure about the severity of the pandemic. It was like people were doing elbows and fists. That was it. Yeah. And Zach had this couch where everybody literally was hanging out at. And, hey, I had fun. I hung out on that couch all weekend long. Oh, it was a good time. Yeah, it was good. That was good. It might have been used in one of those episodes.
    26:52
    It was fun. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. This story goes to the podcast. Oh, all right. Yeah. You guys, you have lots of podcast fans in here? Yeah, I cannot rent an Uber to get my daughter off the bus, Zach.
    27:09
    I mean, believe me, I thought about it. But, you know, the parent side of me says, that's probably a bit. Are you allowed to do that? Can you just rent an Uber and throw your kids in there? Dude, she's so shy. She'd be like, no, sir. I mean, legally, can you? I don't know. Are you mad at Madeline? She'd be like, I don't know. I got to go. Yeah. She'd haul us to the house and not be able to get in. I'd be getting a call from Jamie. I don't know. I don't know how that works. I don't think you can. No. There's no way.
    27:38
    You can send an Uber. What is the legal age to call an Uber? probably 18. They probably don't want the liability.
    27:44
    That's what I'm thinking. I don't think you want a kid driving around with an adult. That's a good point. It makes sense.
    27:52
    When are we going to hear the next JJP podcast? Probably when I have something interesting to talk about. Which is close. We are very close. I miss doing the podcasts.
    28:04
    I think here shortly there's going to be a plethora of JJP podcasts that will be ready to hit. For those of you that don't know, I do host the Jersey Jack Pinball podcast for Jersey Jack Pinball. And, Bill, I know you are co-hosting the Free Play Pinball podcast with Amanda Hamilton. And, Steve, I don't know why you don't have a podcast, but you're running the stream. Yeah. So that's nice. I like to interact with the chat. You know, I like to do my thing. I do my thing. Everyone's keeping busy. Steve's in charge of moving games around and getting the cameras set up. And, dude, you know, he'll be like, oh, I just ordered this off of the Amazon. And pretty soon we'll probably have some helicopter audio that I need to figure out. Yeah. Dude, we've got one of them fancy circle light things for doing newscasts. Steve's the man when it comes to all this stuff. We've got some light in here. It looks good in here, man. A lot of the games have transferred over.
    28:55
    Yeah. Or switched out. Heavy Stern in here, I noticed. Where's the JJP game? Not really, though. We've got to get some in here.
    29:03
    So we have a Teenage, we have a Turtles premium and an Iron Maiden premium, both for sale through Flippin' Out Pinball. Gotcha.
    29:12
    Otherwise, I mean, I have a stern Lord of the Rings. That's a very heavy stern. I'd say I'm very heavy Bally Williams, 90s. You are very. That's my jam, baby.
    29:24
    Yeah. I was going to say, well, yeah, I mean, I don't think you're heavy on stern. I think you're, yeah, I mean, some of the Bally Williams stuff. Each one of these manufacturers offers something unique that's fun to play. you know and i kind of when i have a conversation with people it's like you know and i'm not going to directly compare any manufacturer to any specific car but i mean uh sometimes you want to drive your jeep wrangler and sometimes you want to drive your maserati and sometimes you want to drive your motorcycle three very different experiences they all get you from point a to point b but you're in the mood for those uh you know those methods of transportation and you're in the mood for certain pinball manufacturers at times it just it's how it goes hey sometimes You want a 1967 Twilight Zone pinball machine. That's right. Warm hold. That's right. You know. I love Twilight Zone.
    30:14
    Yeah. You know, the older stuff definitely has some throwback stuff. That's why, I don't know. Chad, is it just me? No, you guys are on a diet. Thanks for the follow-up. Or is it, you know, you don't want to let go of the Bailey Williams stuff because you're always afraid you're not going to be able to get it. And honestly, even with the modern titles. I mean, it's kind of me, too. I mean, that's kind of why. That goes in waves, though. That's kind of why you see the majority behind being. Don't you notice that, though? You get on this kick where it's like, I want some of the vintage stuff or some of that classic, Bally Williams, 80s, 90s, System 11s. And then it's like, no, I kind of want the new stuff. I mean, I'm in the zone now where it's like it's the new tech that is really kind of appealing to me. Oh, no doubt. And I think even before working for Jersey Jack, I was in that mode.
    30:56
    It's just what's the new thing? What's the next innovation? What are they going to implement to make pinball a little different, maybe a little more fun? the lighting, the new Macs the lighting, the LCD screen, I mean there's a lot going on with the new games looking forward to never seeing the end of I'm looking forward to having the game come out, 100% it's been a long time, right? October 2020 is when we released Guns N' Roses, not in this lifetime but to the credit of the company and those guys there, I mean, during pandemic they moved a whole pinball company from jersey to elcro village illinois put a great selling game on the line and have been manufacturing the hell out of it ever since and we're we're finally at the point now where it's like if you ordered a game today of guns and roses you uh you might be able to find one with the distributor or you'll have one in may so that's kind of not bad yeah Yeah. Which I would say, you know, now that we're kind of caught up with these orders, we didn't want to have where, you know, we were so far behind on orders where people waited 12, 18 months for a game. We're like, hey, we've got to pull it off the line because we're putting the next one on there. It's a tough situation to be in. So for us, that wasn't going to work. Well, that was a crazy seller, too. I mean, that was unprecedented, you know, as far as, you know, I think at the time, you know, with where demand was for Jersey Jack products. You know, I mean, I think that kind of just blew everything away. And the game itself was just absolutely insane.
    32:33
    Me, I remember initially when it came out, I mean, there was a substantial wait because, I mean, literally you guys got flooded with orders. Yeah, day one it was, you know, you're right off the bat, you're playing catch-up, and it's not typical catch-up. I mean, it was a major, major catch-up. So throw in there a couple work-from-home orders from the state, you know, through that time and then going through, you know, part shortages and shipping delays. And I'm not making excuses because everybody had to deal with this too. But to come out on the other side and be in a really good position to have the next game out, you know, it means the world to us. And I'm sure those that have waited, you know, patiently will be happy to see something new. I know from a marketing perspective, like, I'm excited about sharing something new and marketing something new. Oh, I can imagine. Different approaches to that. And, you know, I've got some ideas and the team has some ideas on how we're going to get the game out. And, you know, GNR was fun and this next one is going to be just as fun. GNR was the best launch of any game, in my opinion, to date. I mean, those are all top rails. Mr. 9865 is just asking how many GNRs did we sell to date. So typically in the industry, companies don't really get into how many games you've sold. A ton. But I can tell you that, you know, so the collector editions of Guns N' Roses came out and they sold out, I don't know, within an hour. And that was 500 that were gone. Yeah. From there, we had standard editions that were also on the line that we sold, and then the limited edition. The limited editions are limited to 5,000 units, and they're not made sequentially. So on day one, if your limited edition is up, you could be like, hey, I want number 5,000, and you'll get that plaque for 5,000. So if you see a game that comes out in the wild, we were talking earlier, it's like, hey, somebody just unboxed 3,400. That doesn't mean there's a 3,400 game on the line. So, you know, we're coming to the end of the LE run. not to sound salesy, but if you're looking to get a GNR LE and you're not looking to buy secondhand, it's probably a good time to consider reaching out to a distributor to grab one.
    34:29
    Because I think when Guns N' Roses comes off the line we'll have heavy dedication to the next game. It's a good time to consider it.
    34:41
    When do you see him next? Get out it! Get out it. Well, from the sounds of it, I mean, you guys are firing on all cylinders. You guys have hired two new designers, right? Well, Steve Ritchie. Yep. You know, king of pinball, Master Flow, and Mark Seiden, who came over from the homebrew community. He had the Metroid pinball machine. Mark's a super intelligent, bright guy who I think people will be excited when they kind of see stuff that he's working on because he really knows how to take a license or a theme and implement it into how a ball is reacting on a play field. And that's something that, you know, I've had the opportunity to kind of see behind the scenes. Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah. And everybody knows Steve. I mean, Steve is legendary.
    35:28
    And it's good to see him really, really excited to kind of have, you know, his cheese has been moved a little bit, and he's with a new company. He's with a new team. And, yeah, he's in a good spot right now. So I'm happy for him. Well, and honestly, I'm trying to say this in a diplomatic way where I don't ask a question or whatever, but I would be surprised if we saw another. I'm going to make it as a statement. I would be surprised if we saw another game take two years after the next one. Does that make sense? Yeah, of course it does. I mean, I think it was unprecedented times and everything else and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm sure you guys would like to be. Look, nobody wants to go two years between games. it's a long, long time. You've heard Jack Guarneri, the company founder, and he's talked about how the goal here with the company is to get two releases out a year.
    36:21
    And that's still a goal that we have, and in my opinion, I think we're closer now than we've ever been to that goal. So it's in the cards, I believe, right now to have potentially two releases this year. And I know right now we're already in April. but I mean it is possible I wouldn't come here and even say that if I didn't think that it was it is possible you guys are firing on all cylinders for anyone not to make that connection if they truly thought about it they weren't thinking about it because you guys have all this talent as far as designers go you have great IPs that you guys pick up and you guys have some awesome coders yeah the whole team is pretty remarkable Yeah marketing seems pretty good too I mean I don know about them Hey look I didn get a keychain today When these games are that good it makes the marketing pretty easy or at least takes a lot of pressure off because, you know, you never want to just rely on a game selling itself. But in most cases here, the games are kind of selling themselves, you know, with a little bit of sprinkling of creative marketing. And marketing for us, I think, is more about getting the message out and sharing the games and letting people know of little obscure things that you might not know about the games. And then obviously the approach now is to kind of get into increasing a little bit of our market and reaching people that there's still a big part of the population that doesn't realize pinball is being existed or is still being built. I literally hear this daily. I'm stunned by it because I think we're so exposed to it that we just assume that everybody either is a collector, is a fan, or just doesn't like pinball, but there's a ton of people. I would guesstimate 60% or even more don't even know that games, maybe it's 70%. I'd say even more than that. Maybe it's 80%. Yeah, I don't even know. Don't know pinball machines are still being made. Yeah. And you're noticing now pinball is becoming more and more part of pop culture again. You're seeing it on TVs, in ads, every couple weeks. On hot shows, not just. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we had Wizard of Oz that was just recently featured on Ted Lasso. Can we talk about that for a little bit? I don't really know much about what I can talk about, but, I mean, it just showed up for a couple episodes. Ted Lasso, I guess, is a big pinball guy. He owns a Wizard of Oz, and he's friends with Jack, so it was just one of those situations where it worked out. But, I mean, I get a lot of the media requests, and there are a lot of sitcoms and shows that ask, hey, can we use a dialed in in our set in this room, and we're just going to have it kind of there? And it's like, of course. I mean, it's exposure for pinball. You don't need to blur it out. Yeah, for sure. It's like, what is that back there? It just piques the curiosity. And that's not just only good for Jersey Jack. That's good for all of pinball. For pinball to thrive is obviously what everybody that's an enthusiast wants to see. From a company standpoint, to play a role in that is always important. We want to see it around 30 years from now. Right. One thing I want to throw in is earlier I mentioned I delivered a GNR for Zach for flipping out. And quick story, so the guy had been saving for like 18 months. I mean, literally since it came out, this is how much he wanted the machine, right? Yeah, yeah. So he literally had been saving his pennies, saving his pennies, you know, just really working hard to get this machine, right? And I didn't know this until I dropped it off and really had a conversation with him. I knew this guy was diehard when we pulled up to deliver this thing, and he was wearing his GNR t-shirt.
    39:52
    That's good. Okay. I like this guy. Yeah, dude, I mean, literally, unboxed it, he saw it. I mean, he was just floored. I honestly wanted to send you that picture to you. You're putting a leg on. He's starting the game already. Oh, he was just looking at it. See, that's just cool stuff. And you know what? That's magic. As somebody that plays a part in the social media for Jersey Jack Pinball, Listen, do me a favor. If you're out in the wild, you're playing these Jersey Jack pinball games, or you have them at your house, take a picture, tag us, jerseyjackpinball.com. I share that stuff all the time. Tag Jersey Jack pinball. Love seeing pictures that obviously look nice. You don't want it to look like you took a picture with a potato, so to speak. And you know what? Just seeing people playing games is always nice too because pictures of pinball machines are fun, but seeing people enjoying the games, that's what I really like to see. And I think for consumable content, people like to see other people playing pinball machines. Yes. Family, friends, kids. But if you have a cool game room or, you know, you have something that's unique that you see out in the wild, please, please consider tagging Jersey Jack Pinball. And I'm happy to share that stuff. So give you some photo cred. Photo cred, yeah. You do. For sure. Every day. Zach threw out a good one here. We like seeing Eric in pinball cabinets. Those are good. He fits real well. Eric's fun to work with. When Guns N' Roses was launching, the thing with Eric is that he's so enthusiastic to share, obviously, his game, but he wants to get into the promotion of the game. And Eric, you know, at Jersey Jacket, he is somewhat of the rock star right now. So we had a ton of different shoots. We had Eric in the pinball cabinet. We had Eric coming out of pinball boxes. We had him sitting on boxes. We've got pictures of him doing handstands, you know, next to containers that are going out with games. It's always real fun to work with him because he's motivated to have a little fun, even if it's at his expense. He doesn't care.
    41:44
    And that's good. That's what you want to have on a team. I want a picture of Steve Ritchie and you in a handstand. Steve Ritchie? Yeah.
    41:53
    No. I want a picture of what? Steve would be able to do one before I would. Steve driving with Eric and Ken and Pat in the car? All right. Dude, that's the insurance company's worst nightmare right there. You're like, oh, hell no. Oh, yeah. Toledo pinball. Yeah.
    42:10
    I'll give Steve this. He loves lunch. Like, he does lunch up, right? He likes to eat healthier. So, Steve's not going to the McDonald's drive-thru. Steve's going to nicer, classier places. And he's more than, you know, willing to invite the posse to come with. So, at any given time, you could go on a lunch adventure. Nicer, classier places. Yes. Portillo's. You know, like a Korean barbecue. Oh, okay. He's a little healthier. That one place we went to, that was pretty good. That's good. That's good stuff. What place was that? Johnny's Beef. We were with Richie. Oh, yeah. That was a Mexican place. Or a Chinese place. Yes, yes, yes.
    42:45
    Yeah, he's into his... He's very diverse with his food selection. And it makes everybody happier for it. Tutor, thanks for the videos. Yeah, buddy! Woo! Yeah. Oh, yeah. Miss Lord Helmet. Yeah, I forced a bunch of people from Expo to go to Johnny's Beef this last round, and they were like, damn, this is all right. I still, I mean, I don't want to get on the food truck, but I'm going to go Portillo's over to you and eat meat. That's all right. You can have Portillo's. You get tired of Portillo's when you work a block away from it. Yeah, I'm a little Portillo's out. So, I mean, it's excellent, but it just kind of is what it is. What's up? Good. Yeah, I'm good. Thank you. Insanity Falls. I've always appreciated that name. Insanity Falls. I remember listening to Insanity Falls on an episode of the pinball show, I believe. If I remember correctly. I think he co-hosted with Zach once. What's up, man? Zach's got a throwback story. Okay, let's go. Drew sucks at peeing in a urinal and being drunk at the same time. Oh, geez. That is a throwback. That was a throwback. I heard that story secondhand, and that was a good time. So, dude, how is it being on the other side of the fence now? I don't think we've actually publicly talked about that.
    44:03
    You know, going from consumer and enthusiast to now you're marketing. Yes. It's been quite the journey. I was going to say. I'm still hired. Actually, it's my two-year anniversary with the companies this month. Nice. Yeah. It's working out, I think. It's still crazy to think how that all worked out. In a great way, though. You know, I, a hundred percent. And look, I, I said it before. I mean, if we weren't working together, producing content for special wind, lifting ball podcasts and then the three of us, Steve, you were in on a lot of special wind lit and the three of us doing the flipping out streams. I don't know. I, without a doubt, that kind of helped with my resume, so to speak, to kind of get in with the, with Jersey Jack. So for that, I'm forever grateful. And you know, not only to you guys, but the community that helped kind of support our efforts. Thank you guys. I wish. No, seriously. So let's refund some bits and subs. Let's get them all back. That's awesome. But, yeah, no, that's amazing. There was a question that went through chat about Jersey Jack pinball supporting tournaments. And without a doubt, we are sponsors of the IFPA, and we do support tournaments. So if somebody is running a tournament and they're looking for some type of tournament giveaways, I will ask for information and proof of the tournament. So if you're looking for free swag, it's probably not the best way to get it. But you can email me directly, and my email at JerseyJackPinball is the letter K, Cromwell, C-R-O-M as in Michael, W-E-L-L. It's KCromwell at JerseyJackPinball.com. Just let me know about your tournament, when it is. Try to give me at least a few weeks' notice, and I do have some swag packs that I can send out. Nice. We get enough requests to where it's hard for me to kind of keep up. If you have a repeating tournament every few weeks or every few months, it's hard for me to kind of keep up with that type of cadence. But, you know, happy to support when we can and for sure. I mean, tournament play is a whole other aspect of pinball and absolutely we support that. So, good question. And you know what, Zach is great. I mean, Ken is a giver. Yeah, dude, I mean, honestly, I've heard multiple times you guys doing stuff and helping out events and, you know, just giving stuff here and giving stuff there. We do a lot behind the scenes, honestly, and I would assume every pinball company does. And some of the stuff that I'm most proud about that I was able to kind of help with is stuff that never goes public. And I'm totally cool with that because, you know, we're not in to help people because we are looking to publicize it. But to genuinely know that you made a difference for somebody in any situation is, I mean, that's more of a reward than, you know, a social media post or some likes on, you know, Facebook. Speaking of, you came here tonight unexpectedly kind of bringing a couple things. I brought some gifts. I did bring some gifts. So, Ana, Ana just. I must do a lit reunion on a very special episode of Special Winley Pinball Podcast. Thanks for the follow. Hey, good times. So, yeah, so I have brought a Jersey Jack pinball, Guns N' Roses, Ellie Playfield that's signed by the Jersey Jack pinball team. Would you like me to Vanna White this for you, or are we okay? It's totally up to you. I mean, I think anybody who's seen a Playfield kind of knows what it looks like. If anybody wants to see it, let us know. We can bring it up. And then I launched a new product today through our Pinball Wizard store. For those of you that don't know, Pinball Wizard is something that we opened up through Shopify, and it's the Jersey Jack Pinball official kind of accessory and merch store, and we put some new T-shirts up on there today. Look at that. So that's the Guns N' Roses play field. I feel like we're doing like Home Shopping Network. As you can see, there's signatures by the team. Yeah, very cool. So that's an awesome wall hanger. It's great to have. So we'll figure out a way to give this away. You guys, how you want to do it, I don't know.
    47:41
    We've got a couple disclaimers about that later. But going back to the T-shirt, can I pull this up? Yeah, I was going to do it in line. Yeah, no, this is cool. This T-shirt is sweet. I need to get online again.
    47:53
    This is part of a new T-shirt line that we started. It's called the Legendary Line. And the idea behind these T-shirts is that we were going to take an epic artist and combine it with legendary mythical creatures and then with a splash of pinball.
    48:10
    And every three months we're going to release a new shirt with a new artist and a new kind of theme. This month, which is this shirt here, which just released today again on pinballwizard.com, that's our store. These are the super comfy. Yeah, these are the nice next level shirts, so these are good. This is by artist Dane Henry Jr., and we were talking about Dane Henry Jr. tonight. He's the gentleman that did the play field artwork for the Guns and Roses game. He also did the head artwork on the standard edition. Steve, I know you have that here. I do. And then he introduced Medusa and Cyclops into this kind of legendary line. So if you get a chance, jump on the store, check that out. But I don't want to sound salesy. I'm not here to sell stuff. Does he have any other pinball-related artwork? We'll give one of these away to him. Nice, man.
    48:53
    Yeah, so, I mean, if you look up Dane, he's kind of all over the place. I think he's actually doing some custom artwork for Guns N' Roses right now, too. Nice. He's been around for years. Very cool. Are we just giving away this one, or are we going to give it to the guys? That's just a sample. Size specific. Well, let's see. Maybe we'll just give out. This is a size small. Only small people. I guess I'm out of the contention. Anyone in a size small is going to enter the contest. But you've got to be a size small to enter. That's it. Don't ask for medium. We're fresh out. Zach, if you could think of any way to give the play field or the shirt away, that would be really cool. If you guys have any ideas. Those shirts the size we've got. I mentioned just no singing, but I really like the singing. portions of the giveaways. That could get painful, though. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we're going to be doing American Idol tonight. That's like the bad version of Musical Impressions by Jimmy Fallon. Right, right. Not good. Whatever, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Yeah. But, yeah, so we're keeping busy. We've got some things that we're having fun with until the next game comes out. And that next game is close. So not to sound like I'm dangling the carrot, but I bet you it's probably closer than most people would probably think. Woo! So. Oh, a little nugget there. A little nugget. The vaguest nugget ever. That's right. That play field is. I'm jealous, dude. I'm ready to quit the podcast just so I can jump on stream. I know. I'm not eligible. Yeah. And that. I don't have a JGV. You know what? I was thinking about this. For eligibility for the play field, if you are currently producing content for pinball we totally appreciate that I'd like to try to give some swag away to somebody that is not contributing content to pinball somebody new if that makes sense anyone that's a part of the TPN network please don't enter we want this to go to somebody else if you've got a YouTube channel or media Yeah. Right, right, right. Let's just keep it to those that are enjoying everybody's content. If you're a distributor.
    51:01
    Yeah, probably not a distributor. Probably not a distributor. If you're in any way, you know, working in the pinball industry. Yeah, right. If you've once heard of pinball, you're disqualified. If you've ever played, you're disqualified. I'm going to give this away to somebody that doesn't know what a play field is. Absolutely. Like, what is this? Good times. No, you don't. Here, we just want.
    51:25
    The right people in the content creation can work on getting something like this behind the scenes if need be.
    51:34
    There's a lot of excellent content being created all over the place. The podcast landscape has changed pretty dramatically, I've noticed. When we were in this, there was like eight, right? Maybe. You know what? There were probably, I mean, I'm sure there were more than eight. But without a doubt, there were probably eight or ten that I was consuming and you were consuming on a weekly basis. And a lot of that was we wanted to know what everybody else was talking about because when we hosted our show every week. It was easy to kind of keep up with, right? For sure. Look, we were never looking to break news stories, especially with Pinball Podcast. If you noticed, specifically, we were, I think we were, what, Monday nights. Monday nights, which. Because then we would roll into the stream. But by Monday, you know, your major podcasts were hitting the airwaves. And you were kind of, there was commentary that was out there, but then we were able to add our commentary. And sometimes it was opposing commentary. Sometimes it wasn't, but, you know, it was always honest. Sometimes there was stuff that broke on Mondays, too, which worked out, too, which was nice. So, Hudson, for life, it's me. It's Ken in the middle.
    52:35
    Hey, it's me. It's me over here. That's right. I grew my hair out longer so people could tell us apart. You set that up three years ago. Not even joking. Yeah, three years ago. But, yeah, so, you know, fast forward two years. What's up, Jobber? Two years and two months. What's up, Jobber? Because that's when we stopped special and lit, right? February of 2020. Okay.
    52:57
    I mean, there's more podcasts now for pinball than, you know, I can't even keep track of it all. Well, I know specifically TPN has a whole lineup. I don't even know. How many podcasts are on TPN right now? How many streamers are on TPN or just in general? The streaming is what really surprised me. Streaming was very, very small when we started. Yeah. Corona blew that up. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No doubt. But, you know, it's hard because it's hard to find the time to consume all those podcasts. Oh, yeah.
    53:32
    But, you know, you've got to pick and choose, and you're faithful to who your favorites are and support. 30 plus affiliates. Yeah, it's a lot. Congratulations. Sal, I like you too.
    53:45
    Got your back. Yeah, buddy. Hey, remember we were talking about music? Oh. Oh, yeah, what happened to the music? I don't know. Are we going to play some music? Are we going to do some Collins, too, or what do you want to do with that? Yeah, I think we do well. I think we should. Well, we've never done music on any of our shows except for the last one because we were always scared about getting banned. It's so funny. It's like I'm pretty sure nobody was looking to take down Special One Lip. No. Nobody's looking to take down TBA. Those guys are making like $22 right now. But I think it all comes off the VODs, and I don't think the VODs, which is the replay of the show is going to happen automatically anymore. Yeah. Zach pulled from being a TPN founder, and he also apologizes. You're right. I was one of the original founders of TPN. The timing was great. I'll tell you what, when we were all kind of thinking what TPN, where it was going to go, to kind of see where it is now, it's remarkable. So kudos to you, Zach. I know you've had ups and downs and relationships that have, you know, It's sometimes probably been a little tense, but you fight through, so good. I love it. Nothing in life is easier clean. Yeah.
    54:56
    Ken, I think you need to pick the first song off. Okay. So how does this work? How do we pick songs? What are you in the mood for? If we're going to go genres, I would always go back to the 90s rock alternative genre. I know you are. Are you going a little STP on this deal? I have a big STP fan, but at that point. Let's just start there. I mean, why does it matter?
    55:18
    I'm just throwing ideas out there. Okay. I mean, we could go Lisa Loeb, you say, for all I care. So my Pennside ID is STP Core, C-O-R-E. And what most people don't realize, that stands for Stone Temple Pilots, and Core is their first album. Yeah. A lot of people thought it was like racing.
    55:39
    But no, just play in order, man. I don't like this one. I would love to... I don't want to start with that. You know, here's a surprise for the top of pilots.
    55:48
    Yeah? No, that's 90s. Oh, that's 90s. Is it? Yep. Where should I start? You're too young for that, man.
    55:55
    Go ahead. How about Cranberry Zombie? Okay. Start off with that. Like it. It's off the No Need to Argue album. In 1916. Yes.
    56:04
    Did you hear the remake of that one where he's talking about drones and... French? I don't know. Yeah, no. There's a really good remake of that. Okay, yeah. Oh, wow, so we can hear the music through the headphones. You guys are fancy. I don't think we have these capabilities back in time. We're moving on up, dude. You guys are moving up. Like the Jeffersons.
    56:22
    Seems like it's coming through. I'm impressed. All right, there we go. All right, so real quick, while we're kind of transitioning. Now, we're already going to Miley Cyrus. That was a great conversation. Weiland did. We'll talk music for the next two hours. I've got a great Scott Weiland story, if anybody ever wants to hear it. Actually. I'm going to let you tell that in one second, okay? I have to break this here. Okay. Everybody, I have to say thank you for joining us on this special Monday night Flippin' Out Pinball stream. Special Monday night pinball stream. Thank you to Ken for making it out. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. It's fun. Great times. Once again, for all your pinball needs, reach out to Zach and Nicole Many at Flippin' Out Pinball, 812-457-9711. Hopefully everybody sticks around. We've got some giveaways and some good times to be had and some stories to be heard about Scott. And let's run a quick promo real quick while I'm knocking microphones out. Zach just called it. Bill's leaving. Bill. All right. We're going to pause for station identification on the flipping out screen. We'll be right back.
    57:41
    Hey, we're back. We're back. Good times. And what do you know? Zach, Zach Oliver. Oh, we don't need that. We got the cranberries and the Monday Night Promo music going. Get the mud in that promo. Yes, yes, yes. So some things never change, huh? Some things never change. In fact, when Bill needs station ID, he needs to go check the oil. Everybody knows that. Right. But not only that, when I first started streaming, like once he went to Jersey Jack, I was like, Ken, I got to keep this shit going, man. What do you got? And you gave me this, and I'm still rolling with the Monday Night Pro. Like, the Monday Night Pinball sound. There's another one. The Monday Night Football. That's excellent. We got the oo-wees from Rick and Morty. Yes. There's still a lot of stuff. You know, we got to keep it, you know. Right. It's like I'm living on in little Easter eggs. Yeah, you are. Yeah, it's fun. It's good. Bill's in Gen's car stealing swag. Bye. Yes.
    58:34
    Well, Bill drove me. He's out there doing what he needs to do. My quick Scott Weiland story, really fast, though, because it's a pinball stream. So Scott Weiland is my favorite singer of all time from my favorite band of all time, Stone Temple Pilots. Long story short, I live in St. Charles, Illinois. Scott Weiland had left FTP. He's with a band called The Wild Abouts. So they were going to perform at the Arcata Theater in St. Charles, like a mile and a half from my house. So I called up the PR girl there. I think her name was Nikki. I was like, hey, I just explained my background story with Stone Temple Pilots, how I was a big fan. I said, is there any way to get a meet and greet with Scott? And she's like, well, let me see what I can do. So she arranges this meet and greet. I met the concert. It's in December. There was a huge snowstorm. So there was like probably 40 people on the floor of the Arcata. Oh, my God. Watching Scott Wilder do the Wild Abouts. Oh, my God. And it was amazing. So I uploaded a video to YouTube at one point.
    59:29
    So then after the concert, I remember I was first in line for the meet and greet, which I thought was amazing. Get back there. Now, mind you, I've got all the way from the early 90s, all these things I want to say to Scott Weiland. I wanted to tell him, you know, all the typical crap where it's like, your music was so influential to me and got me out of some really tough times. But, I mean, you know how music is when you're in high school or college. There's a song that always brings you back to times. And it was the same thing with Stone Temple Pilots. Like, so many songs would bring you back to a certain point in time. So I'm like, at some point I'll just kind of articulate that briefly and share it with him and let him know how much I appreciated everything he did for, you know, not only me, but millions of Stone Temple Pilots fans. so the door opens up, I walk to the back Scott Weiland's there I stand next to him, he puts his hand around me takes the picture, he looks at me I look at him, I go like this and I just got the hell out of there didn't say a word to him nothing and then unfortunately the week later he went to Minnesota and he passed, he passed away so there was like a divine intervention to bring Scott Weiland through St. Charles for me to meet him at that point, but it was I read online once that he does not like when people talk to him at meet and greets about how influential his music was. He thinks it's garbage. So I don't think I upset Scott Weiland. No. You were in and out. I was in his good graces. Yeah. So that was my Scott Weiland Stone Temple pilot story. Got an excellent picture with him. And it's good, man. I always remember that. And this 90s genre of alternative rock music is right in my heyday. That's a jam, man. Graduated high school in the middle 90s. And it's just awesome. Every single one of these songs, for the most part, I can remember something I was doing at the time. Oh, yeah. Here we got a little Green Day.
    61:10
    I still remember listening to this in my mom's escort on tape. On tape? On tape, yeah. Whoa. We weren't next level on that CD shit yet. That's amazing. It was amazing. Yeah, just sit there. I remember the tapes were like the mix tapes. Like if you had a girl you had a crush on or something. Oh, yeah. You'd be recording the music off the radio. Oh, yeah. You'd sit there waiting on the radio stations. He'll be like, all right, coming up next is Def Leppard. Like, sweet. And if you couldn't afford new tapes, you put the piece of tape over the thing that wouldn't let you record so you could record on it. You remember that or no? No, I don't. Bill was hacking shit back in the day before anybody. Damn right. Scott Wiley's chat just got super deep. I'm sorry. I just got. No, it's all right. No, we should be following this. I mean, this is what Monday Night Pinball is coming to you from. I don't know about pinball. It's become a lot of... We don't talk a lot about pinball all the time. No, it's not pinball all the time. We go on pinball. It's relevance. As long as there's a tie into pinball. There is. Or you have machines in the background, everything works out okay. Yeah. Pinball is behind us. It's a pinball show. No, pinball still. It'd be fun to do a podcast that maybe didn't even relate to pinball. Just talking this kind of stuff is always good times. So we... Hey, Ryan, what's up, buddy? Like, this stuff brings me back. Ryan Kuyper. Hearing this brings me back to the 90s, riding to the local hot dog stand and listening to Green Day and playing pinball. Yes, yes. You know, it's all those things that pull, you know, great times together. You know, I remember when Twilight Zone came out, riding my Dino Comp to the store and playing it and pissing away my lunch money. You know, good times. It is good times. Hell yeah. You know. Like, dude, you were down in Florida playing Earthshaker. Yeah, that's... You're correct. When I moved to Florida, I went down there to play baseball. Oh, what the hell? And I had to get a job at the Clearwater Mall. I was working at Montgomery Ward. And right next to Montgomery Ward, there was an arcade, and there was an Earthshaker in there.
    63:10
    And I just started playing Earthshaker. Montgomery Ward. When I said, hey, if at some point I could ever own a pinball machine, I would love to get an Earthshaker. Now at the time, you're not putting two and two together. You're like, I'm never going to have a pinball machine. How would I ever have one? You know, since I've probably owned close to 100 games. I know we moved 26 in and out of your basement. Yeah, over a pretty short amount of time. In a matter of like two years. Yes. Yeah. But, you know, it's all part of the fun of it. Yeah. That's why your back is wrecked, by the way. Absolutely. Yes. Everyone's like, oh, dude, you move all these games. No, I helped just help Ken. Ken's got a 90-degree turn. I had two 90-degree turns in my basement. So we called that a 180. And at the time, I was going through pinball machines so quick. Well, I mean, they were. Yeah, you had a little. It wasn't like a 180. It was like, you know, down, and that would be, well, that would also be. I've done them where you have to, like, lift and go up that full way. The problem is I'm working with Madeline on math, and they teach that common core shit. So it's not a 180. It's two. I don't get it either. My kids are, I don't know how they're doing math. Just go back to the abacus because the math complexity that's being asked from, like, my first grader, like, I don't even follow it at all. I'm like, what does that even mean? I don't get it. I wish, I don't even have examples. I've erased them from my memory. Oh, I can tell you. But listen, we're going to drop viewers. That's not what I'm saying. So, Ken, favorite STP song, and why is it Interstate Love Song? I do love Interstate Love Song. But that's not my favorite STP song, but it's an amazing song. It's amazing acoustic also.
    64:42
    There's some really good versions of the acoustic Interstate Love Song. And actually, the MTV unplugged set list for Santo Palo. We need somebody to do that again. It's just an unplugged with these new, you know, new bands. Yeah. Yeah, but could you do a lip-up doing it unplugged? Yeah, do it. Velvet Revolver was pretty sick. It counted. Go. Hit it up. She is, but... I mean, it's... I'm not too in the genre. I'll be honest with you.
    65:11
    Nirvana's MTV Unplugged is amazing. I think that's the best album. Alice in Chains' MTV Unplugged is amazing.
    65:18
    I mean, this is like off-the-hook stuff, so... Yeah, but Nirvana Unplugged was, I think, the best album you could find. Nirvana is an amazing unplugged. I have the guitar tab book.
    65:29
    Yeah, it's awesome. It's too bad, like, all these guys passed, you know. Well, I mean, recently the Foo Fighters drummer passed away. Yeah, right. Of course, I'm trying to blink on his name. But that guy was, you know, real cool.
    65:45
    It's insane. It's tough times. Yeah. Kennedy and Slash Eric just went out and saw them in concert in Chicago a couple weeks ago Slash had sent them some tickets and well here's Plush right yeah I just great song I've been hanging out with a lot of people that don't like Red Hot Chili Peppers and I'm like I don't see the hate Red Hot Chili Peppers has a new song that's playing right now yeah they got a whole new album on it because this is what happened I went down the rabbit hole with the 90's rock alternative for like 15 years That's all I listened to. I was in, like, this time capsule. So then one day on Pandora, I'm like, how about, like, current adult alternative rock? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty good. So I've been listening to that for the last few years. So it's basically your same artist, but they're newer stuff. No, no, no, no, no. It's mostly not the same artist. It's just new artists, but it's just a new fresh take on music. I mean, there are some, you know, people that are carrying over. Like, Pearl Jam will have some new stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, just recently, Red Hot Chili Peppers has a song that's playing on there. But it's just kind of, man, it's good to get. And I saw Stone Temple Pilots open up for Red Hot Chili Peppers at the World Music Theater. Well, it was the World Hit Time. Did you get the nice sock view?
    66:57
    What's the sock view from Flea? No. I don't get that close to Flea's sock. Stay in the back. Flea's sock.
    67:10
    I got it. That escalated quickly. Look away. Yeah. Jobber, I hate to say it, but you know what? I agree with you. And actually, there's a mix of Blinding Lights with Rod Stewart that's pretty intense. And somebody did a Blinding Lights, aha, take on me mix that's kind of interesting. Blinding Lights? The Weeknd.
    67:30
    Blinding Lights. Too new for me. I mean, I know The Weeknd. I probably know the song. I played it for you. We played that song the one time. I don't know the song names, but yeah. You ever pull the guitars out and play in here? We should do an acoustic set one day. Yeah. I'll play the hell out of Stone Temple Pilots. I'll sing. Yeah. It might be tuned. Ex-ambassadors are really good. I think it holds its tunage pretty well.
    67:53
    You want to take some calls? Yeah, I think we should. Is it hard to set up these days? I remember it was a pain back in the day. We need to start thinking about how we're going to give this play field a shirt away, guys. We don't even have to do that tonight if you don't want to. I mean, whatever.
    68:09
    I'm sure everybody in Charlotte will love that. Did you tease it at all? Does anybody know that? How do you like that, by the way? This is really good, by the way. Isn't it really good? I'm impressed with it. So, Ken, what did you send me a message yesterday? Yeah, it's Dub by... Dub, Dub. Yeah. Ready, party! Hey!
    68:28
    What's up, Ski-Doo? What is this? Party of Four. Welcome, guys. Noon Whistle. I love Noon Whistle. One of my favorite breweries out of the area. Noon Whistle, Microphone, Hot Butcher. Chicago's. Microphone's in Elkville Village, right by the factory. If you ever want me to pick up anything from you there, I can pick that up for you. Can you pick it up from the factory?
    68:52
    Yeah, they have a microphone. They've got a tap room, so you can grab that stuff. It's funny because I used to be a big Miller Lite drinker for years. I used to make fun of people that would drink these kind of craft beers. I'm like, ah, snobs. Now I'm drinking all these craft beers, and I'm like, ah, garbage Miller Lite. But then I go to the baseball game, and I'm drinking Miller Lite. I'm like, these are great. You have three of these the next day. You're like, ah, damn. Yeah, well, that's the truth. That's the truth. So anything in moderation is fun, I suppose. Hey, give me a good old Corona once in a while. So, yeah, I'm down for Collins. What do you have to say about this giveaway? Zach, do you have any thoughts?
    69:31
    Well, I think Zach is going to be like, dance, monkey, dance. You know, forget this talking play field. This is some AAA grade giveaway right here. This is worth quitting the stream and trying to enter the world. I didn't know what you were going to bring. Like, I would have thought way deeper about this.
    69:49
    Oh, hey, it's no big deal. It's a completely fine play field. L.E. play field. Hey! I do own the Scott Weiland Christmas. What's your name? Really? Scott Weiland Christmas, huh? Yes. It's a different experience. You want to go to Christmas music? No, I don't want to go to Christmas music. My daughter's still listening to Christmas music. We can give... Literally, I heard Christmas music today. I took a pass on the Christmas music. My daughter never went to Christmas and she's rocking Christmas on Amazon Music, so it just keeps Santa Claus is not actually coming back to town. I love Christmas music, but it's getting to the point where, you know. April 26th, we're closer to Christmas 2022 than we were 2021.
    70:31
    I'm not mistaken. Are we talking about years? Yeah, April 26th, we're closer to Christmas than we are, you know, the next Christmas than the last Christmas. That's true. So just tell her, Mr. Bill Webb said, April 26th, you're closer to the next Christmas. Right. It's cool.
    70:49
    Somebody mentioned that Stern Pinball had teased a Frazier pin on April Fool's Day. And I'm going to hat tip Keith Johnson, who had probably the most epic, unbelievable April Fool's post, that we couldn't tie in all together because it was hard to meet the deadline. It literally required us purchasing flamethrowers.
    71:15
    It was amazing. So, you know, for whoever's here today, we've got enough time to set it up for next year. So, spoiler alert, it's probably an April Fool's joke, but it's unbelievable.
    71:29
    You'll see. I'm very intrigued. We're already planning for it. That's all we can hear. Okay, cool. Yes. Fair enough. Yes. So, Keith, if you're watching on demand or live, just know I wish I could have pulled that together for you, buddy. It's a tough ask when I'm asking my boss to budget out flamethrowers. Three days before. Right. Hey, I need three flamethrowers. I know we're going to probably need some special licenses to get these here. Right. I don't know if you need a license for flamethrowers. I don't know how that works, but it was good. Hang on. Who is this?
    72:05
    Soul of Silence. Okay. Isn't it? I don't know. I'm giving you a little test here. Let's see. Collectives? Collectives. Oh, my gosh. I was going to guess that, too. Collectives, Soul of Silence, Collectives, Soul, whatever it takes.
    72:24
    They both have Soul. Soul music. They both have Soul. Zex is one too. Disney and Ice.
    72:31
    Oh, dude, that is one segment of music. Like, I wish, yeah. But I don't think into, like, Frozen and all that kind of crap. And it's like, damn. You know what I'm on now is Encanto, like, three or four times a day. Just the soundtrack now. Hang on, is that the one with the kids in the ocean that come out? No, it's like the magic doors that, like, these kids get when they're born and they get these special powers. Oh, I haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's pretty, I mean, it's good the first four or five, six times you see it. So, I don't have kids, as you all know. Yeah. We don't talk about Lori. But Lori and I still watch all the Disney movies and the Pixar movies when they come out.
    73:15
    You got them. They're good. No joke. But, you know, when you have kids, they're just replaying. Replay, replay, replay. So, like, the first time Billy was home sick, I think it was like a year and a half, something like that, right? And I'm like, buddy, I got you. You know, he's just miserable. Dude, I literally purchased cars and put it on the TV. mesmerized. And to this day... I've never seen Cars. Oh, dude, literally. I think we should turn your high speed into a Cars. Cars is a great... Part 2 was a rip-off of 1. Part 3 was totally out there. But the original Cars is probably one of the most consumable Disney-Pixar films. It's adult humor. I'm going to hit it up. But the crazy one is literally like, we were at gymnastics practice like two weeks ago. And he's like, I don't want to watch cars. There's stuff to do here. So I put on Ford vs Ferrari Love it Zach Dude he loved Ford vs Ferrari Okay I was like okay it not cartoonish but you know Some questionable language choices that he trying to understand There's some very seriousness going on in that movie. Yeah, you know, he loved when he threw the wrench. Alright. Whatever. All good. Alright, let's do this Colin thing. How are we going to pull this off? Do you mind if I step over to the fridge and refill there for a second? Phil, you want a quick read? Phil's got the easy way out. those? Yeah, do you mind? No. Thanks. I appreciate that, Bill. Do we need to run a promo or anything? Boba Fett, not Bobby Fett. All right. Yeah, thank you, sir. I appreciate it. What great hospitality here. Thanks, man. Tailgate was pretty epic, guys. You guys pulled that up. I don't know how you pulled that together. That was amazing. I mean, we were barely in here for Trailgate. So thank you to everybody who made that happen. Bigger and better.
    75:18
    All right. So music stopped. Oh, what's wrong with Titanic? Is it time to take some call-ins? Feel some call-ins? Let's do it. Are we going to do a couple call-ins and then? We have a hard 9 o'clock. And then maybe a giveaway. I mean, maybe we'll just talk to some people. He talks to people. Talk a little Titanic. We're so structured. Like, was there enough room for Jack on that door with Rose?
    75:44
    God damn it. I can't be home too late. No. Go ahead. Got to be home at a respectable hour. All right, let me throw in the phone number. My wife thinks I'm in the bathroom right now. Nice, nice. Irritable Bell syndrome, I guess, huh? Yes. I like it. Call in. We'll talk. We literally had one stream where somebody had brought up Titanic.
    76:02
    So you have a point of reference. And literally for about 55 minutes, I'm reciting off Titanic facts over, you know, like, not the same ones, just interesting stories. Courtney was ready to jam his eyeballs with nails, right? I mean, Steve was, I think you found it entertaining.
    76:20
    What's that? I'm sorry. No comment. I'm like, I'm like, I got to shut this shit up to answer calls. Steve's zoned out right now. Oh, no.
    76:30
    Yeah, Steve, this is where I'm at. Okay. So it's pretty similar. I'm one for one tonight one for one do we have to do this on press one yeah hey jobber what's up jobber trying to find my remote here so I can shut off wrestling as if I didn't watch enough over the weekend with there being something on Friday night the WrestleMania night Steve Austin yeah Stone Cold came out and looked really old and reminded me that I'm not as young as I used to be yeah because uh that was that was the height of my fandom but I I uh hung around for a few more years and then I just kind of I mean I've always watched wrestling but we're not talking about wrestling nor Bruno so you're talking about pinball right we're talking about pinball but There have been a couple of pro wrestling themed pinballs.
    77:32
    But what I called about and why I wanted to get on as early as possible is I wanted to talk with you guys about the Midwest Gaming Classic. And this year, or this Midwest Gaming Classic, Ed Owens has decided to step back and not organize the homebrew area. and so therefore I jumped in and I took that mantle by the by the way that's huge that's a big responsibility were they receptive to that idea or yeah yeah I spoke with Dan Lucent and we're working on stuff we've been sending out uh some promotional information over the last weekend or so or no just over the last weekend and a couple of press releases and all that kind of fun stuff, you know, the things Ken does and probably is familiar with. A little bit. But, yeah, so we're taking submissions starting right away. So if anybody out there has a homebrew pinball and wants to submit, just send an email to homebrewgames. Hold it. No, no, no. Sorry. I've got to get my branding right.
    78:44
    Homebrewpinballgames at gmail.com. Yes. And we are going to be doing some elements to the booth, make it a little bit more flashy this year. So we are asking that people get everything in by April 17th. If you're going to come, we will take anybody if you want to come. But just remember, space is limited, and you wouldn't be included with the promotional stuff. So if you can get it into homebrewpinballgames at gmail.com, then we should be good to go. Very cool. And when is the date of MGC? The Big List Game Classic is going to be the last weekend of this month. So let me pull up my little press release here. It's a unique kind of scenario for MGC because of playing catch-up with COVID. They just recently had an MGC, right? Yes. Yeah, because we were up there for a little bit. It's a fun show. It's a great show. And downtown Milwaukee is pretty awesome. Yeah, Milwaukee is awesome. Yeah, it is. It is truly a great show. And the thing that I like about it as an alternative to something like Pinball Expo or Texas Pinball Festival is the fact that it's a little bit of everything. So, for example, I am hoping to bring three games with me, one of them, of course, being the Dumpster Fire. Oh, I still have that. That's amazing. Yes, I still have that, and it's still working. In fact, I just am installing a new part as we speak. Nice. So I'm going to be bringing the Dumpster Fire with me. and then also hopefully two other games that I've made out of recycled materials. But those are going to be standard arcade games. And I'll do the reveal of those at the actual show. But beyond that, you know, if anyone out there is listening and says, hey, you know what, I want to get your stuff together, it'll be a fun one. And hopefully I get to see the Jersey Jack crew up there.
    80:41
    I hope so. I mean, logistically it makes a lot of sense for us to be there in some capacity. whether it's there with the booth or supporting a local distributor there. Chris Min, you're from Kingpin Games, I think is normally, that's kind of his, and you see his turf up there. Yeah, and it is a very good show. It's just a very different show than some of the other things. So we will know more, but if you have any interest in, you know, have a game, and it doesn't have to be a pinball game. If you have a homebrew video game or arcade game that you've been working on, bring that along with. We'll have room for you. That's awesome. Sounds good. Feel free to give us a call and then give us an email. And beyond that, it's good seeing you, Ken. Yeah, good to hear from you, Jobber. I look forward to seeing you at MGC. Last time I saw you was at Expo and you had the baseball, and I appreciated that. I did. My stress baseball. Yes, you did. I was dealing with all sorts of fun things like an alternator about beginning to die and bad tires. So it was just a fun weekend. Hey, Jobber, congrats. Yeah, congrats. That's awesome, man. I didn't know you were holding that up. Yeah.
    81:52
    We'll try to get out there, and anybody in chat, try to get out to MGC. If you have a homebrew, obviously reach out to Jobber. What's that email again? One more time, if you don't mind. The email address is homebrewpinballgames at gmail.com. And if you get lost, just look on the Facebook page for the Midwest Gaming Classic, and they will have more information out there. Awesome, man. Nicely done, man. congratulations and we wish you good luck, okay? We will talk soon. Thanks, Jobber.
    82:19
    Nice hearing from Jobber. Always nice to hear from Jobber. I was wondering where that conversation was going to go when he went into wrestling pins, but it seemed like it was a good purpose. Yeah, no, that was congrats to Jobber. I mean, that's a big responsibility. It is. It really is. For sure. But he deserves it, you know, and he's holding up to that. I love it. Everybody, we are fielding calls, so anybody that's got something good to say,
    82:44
    Give us a jingle. I have no idea what he's talking about. Goat up there. I like goats. Oh, your goats are so cute. Come on.
    82:58
    What? All right. Milly Wacke. That was from Wayne's World. Yeah, with... When... What's his... Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper's... Oh, I didn't see that one. Milly Wacke. Is he in the background? No, he was playing. That was the Be My Valentine song. That was Cooper, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was the second one that they had Aerosmith. Aerosmith, yeah. And it was huge. In Aurora, Illinois. What? Was that with the Twizzlers? Yeah, Don't Eat the Twizzlers. Yeah. I think Twizzlers were in one. Right? That was in Little Hatchback and the Dispenser. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was in one. Lickrash. Yeah. Don't Eat the Red Rope Licorice. Yeah. the concert because they're like, it could cause a dental emergency. I thought that was the Aerosmith. Maybe not. That was the Aerosmith one. I don't know. The Garthmobile. They had the dispensing licorice machine. You think a Wayne's World pinball machine would sell? Like, would that be something that, I mean, does it hold up over time? I think so. I guess you could get some pretty interesting stuff. I don't know. I love it.
    84:05
    It's curious. It would probably do pretty good. Or every time the ball dreams, we're not worthy. We're not worthy. I don't think Mike Myers or Dana Carvey have been crushing it, so I bet you they're like this. Yeah. Kind of reasonably affordable. Yeah.
    84:22
    I think Amanda's intent on seeing people embarrass themselves for the playful giveaway before she calls it a night.
    84:30
    Yeah, how do we want to do this, Bill? Go away. You know, if we're going to do singing, I think we should do singing of 90s rock alternative music. I'm just saying. Stone Temple Pilots. I want to hear somebody's best rendition of STP. Yeah.
    84:45
    But it doesn't make sense that we're doing a giveaway of Guns N' Roses play field. So I'm going to retract that, actually. That's probably some violation of my contractual agreement to have STP. Although I do know that obviously Slash worked with Scott Weiland on Velvet Revolver. But, yeah, we'll scratch that.
    85:04
    Scratch that idea. The sword helmet. Right. She was there. Like right before. Before we give a certificate. Boom. Yep. Boom. Amazing.
    85:14
    Boom. Well, there you go. That was another good one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, going back, I mean, there were a lot of classic 90s. I mean, I was actually listening to something before I picked you up where they were talking about the movie Friday. And 10 people from the movie, that franchise, Fridays, have passed away that were involved in it. And I was like, dude, Friday would still make an excellent pinball machine. Friday.
    85:37
    Yeah. You got no job? Yeah. Around here. 2020. I do love it. All right. I like Zach's. How about their best GNR singing in a Disney cartoon voice? That sucks. I don't want to hear that at all, actually. I don't even know. What? What's going on?
    85:58
    I've heard Guns N' Roses on loop for almost two years, which is great. What's up, Wes? And then to listen to it one more time. Hey, what's up, Wes? By the way, I love the new shirt. That's my favorite. That's my new favorite shirt. The new Rebel Guitar shirt. All right. We'll field this. 22% of my wardrobe is Rebel Guitar t-shirts. That's no joke. I need new pinball shirts. Where's my mouse? Come on.
    86:20
    Damn computer. That's true, Zach. Beep. Call from... Michael. To accept, press 1. To send a voicemail, press... Who is it? Hey, Michael.
    86:34
    Hello. I'm on. Hey, what's going on? Great. Hey, what's up, buddy? It's awesome to get through and talk to you guys.
    86:43
    What's up, Michael? How are you, buddy? Well, I'm just sitting here waiting anxiously. For what? What are you waiting for? A chance to win the Guns and Roses play field. I like it already. I love the tenacity. I don't think you won, unfortunately. What you really meant to say was, listen, I am so happy to be here for the contest. And the play field is just a bonus. Right. It's the cherry on top. Yeah. You got it. Hey, Mike, just sing a song just for the hell of it.
    87:12
    Sing a song? Stone Temple or Guns N' Roses. Or anything from Atlanta. Or anything from Disney. Any picker. For Zach. What if none of those aren't my jam? What's your jam, bro? I don't know. You got to get out of your comfort level a little bit, I think. I was going to say, on the spot, it's really hard to come up with something. All right. You called on the spot. No, no, hold on. Before you sing, I'll double down. or your favorite commercial.
    87:41
    I'll do mine. Come on, D773. 202. Luna. Oh, geez. All right, go ahead. Bill Scoot says you're out. Bill broke the assumption closed. He's like, all right, Michael, go ahead. You're out. By the way, anybody who's about to call in tonight, just expect harassment. I hear tightness. Someone's looking for lyrics. Yeah, you're looking for lyrics, aren't you, Mike? You can't look for the lowest rated YouTube commercial and play that. The San Francisco treat.
    88:10
    Yeah. You know, I'm more of a Weird Al guy. Oh, okay. You can do it. As long as it's heartfelt. It is. You want somebody with some heart behind it. Let's go. I'll just do a little bit of the chorus. It's all about the Pentiums, right? It's a great song from 1999, Running With Scissors. Okay, yeah. Running With Scissors.
    88:35
    oh man i'm so sorry take a shot okay yo it's all about the hackers coke crackers slackers wasting time with all the chat room yakkers 95 chilling at hewlett packard what working at a desk with a dumb little placard yeah paying the bills with my mad programming skills defragging my hard drive for thrills got me a hundred gigabytes of ram i don't feed trolls and i Don't read spam. Install the T-Line in my house. Always at my PC, double-clicking on my missiles. Upgrading my system at least twice a day. I'm strictly plug-and-play.
    89:12
    I'm not afraid of Y2K. I'm sorry, but that was a multi-morphic sound. We were looking for Guns N' Roses. That was a heck of an outro. I wish JJP would have made that game.
    89:26
    Yeah, that would have been awesome. It would have been cool. Well, hey, Mike. What's going on? It's good.
    89:34
    All right. I just want to give a shout-out to District 82. I'll be playing there for the Great Lakes Temple Open this weekend. All right. District 82. DJP is sponsoring.
    89:45
    Reach out to GameCamp. We try to sponsor everything. So I'm assuming that if we were reached out or contacted to, it would probably be me.
    89:53
    There should be stuff there, and if it's not, it's my fault. So either way, reach out to GameCamp. Yeah, right. Exactly. Well, I'm not organizing it. I don't think I'd be the one asking for stuff like you said. No. I think people ask all the time. It doesn't mean they receive. I was just looking to give myself a little bit. I like it. Cool. Awesome, man. While we're waiting for the next call in, Steve, do me a favor. Punch up YouTube first. All right, Mike. Thanks for the call. Thanks, buddy. All right. Yep. Good luck. That was awesome. Good luck. Good singing, bro. Sorry. I thought you had already hung up. My bad. Punch up YouTube while we're waiting here. somebody threw in Adele and I want to play y'all a quick mix you guys are staying the long way I don't know man I got a couple giveaways type this in Adele astronaut in the ocean R-O what is that it's like the French spelling for astronaut there you go There you go. Oh, yeah. There you go. Nice and easy. I'm not looking down. There's that auto spell. Look what I type. This is a pretty – all right. This is not – all right. This is kind of after hours. Am I doing the spell? Am I doing it? Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. Am I doing it? This is – I feel like I'm watching TikTok all of a sudden. What happened?
    91:16
    I guess we're rolling on the beat. I don't know. I thought that – I'll give Mike a solid B. Mike did a good job. It takes balls to call in and sing. I'll tell you what. Yeah. Hey, somebody talked about Adele. That's why I had a pro. Zach's got Slim Biscuit on here. It's got a little bit of everything. Yeah, Zach's really thrilled for this one, too. Zach, you can pause it if you want. By the way, it's been great streaming with you all the last two years. I don't know. I was listening to Snow Temple Pilots. Then Mike called in, and he was doing Weird Al, and now I'm in, like, an Adele remix. This is a TikTok thing. I feel like I'm watching TikTok. TikTok? TikTok's dangerous, by the way. TikTok is a rabbit hole. A little bit. Yeah. All right, what else? What's going on? Hang on. Okay, we can turn it off. It's got Adele in it. That's why it's rude. I'm going to go Water the Garden. I love that. It's very back there. That was pretty impressive. This is a great song, though.
    92:13
    I know Zach loves it. Yeah, it's good. All right. That's not a thing of nightmares. Come on, brother. Where's the fog machine? Actually, I need a fog machine. I have one if you need to borrow one. Okay.
    92:27
    My wife said I'm not allowed to have a fog machine. Really? Yeah. It was an incident. Please, you tell. It's okay. Okay, all right. I bought one for Halloween, so it just sits there for 364 days out of the year. It wasn't the best purchase, but whatever. That ceramic cat broke that I used to have. You know, they had to explain to me the whole ceramic cat, because literally when you guys were streaming, it was about survival with my son. Yeah, no, I remember that. I do remember that. Dude, we would do the podcast until, you know, I think from like 6 to 7. We wanted to keep it an hour, and you and I were pretty proficient with a little editing at the end, right? Sure, sure.
    93:07
    So by the time I got home, dude, I had my son, dude, and he was colicky from like 7 to 11 every night. I mean, brutal. So I didn't watch a whole lot of it. So Chad had to educate me when we got fired back up what the cat was, and they're like, where's the cat? I think Amanda named the cat Bill, if I remember, because I don't know that he had a name originally. It was just a cat that I picked up at either Home Depot or Costco or something. I went out to get something that my wife asked me to pick up, and it was like a display thing, and it was cheap. Oh, Build-A-Cat. Are we talking about Build-A-Cat? We're talking about Build-A-Cat. Oh, shit! But Build-A-Cat, he fell, and then he let us all know that he is ceramic, so he did break. Oh, he was kind of heavy. And you can't find that cat. I didn't know he was ceramic. It is what it is. It's a heavy plastic. But then you got a real Build-A-Bot back, so it's okay. Yes. It's all good. Ceramic broke and Rubel came. Where were you the night the cat broke, by the way? I was probably at home.
    94:00
    I didn't do anything else for about a year. That's true. Here we go. That's true. Call from Tony Stutes. Oh, Tony. Except press 1.
    94:17
    Wow, that was nice. Dude, something's going on. You on the high-speech ace over there? Some retro gaming going on in the background. What's up, Tony? That's the fire tone going off right now. I'm at the firehouse. Oh, you see, nothing important going on. Oh, sorry. You should probably go.
    94:35
    Wait. It's like Rescue 911. Tony, you good there, buddy? Yeah. Well, I wanted to sing a song for you guys. Oh.
    94:48
    What the hell? Yeah. into your eyes i can see your love is strange but darling when i hold you don't you know i feel the same well november rain nothing lasts forever and we both know hearts can change and it's hard to hold a candle in the cold november rain oh man that bringing me to love it it's such a long long Sometimes it's trying to kill the pain. Oh, yeah. Love is coming. Love is always going. I'm all screwed up, but I got to go on this call, guys. Yeah, man. I appreciate it. Love you, buddy. I just want to show November Rain is my favorite.
    95:28
    And I'll talk to you guys. I'll try to call back if I'm back. Hey, just be safe. Yeah, do what you need to do. All right, guys. All right, man. Thanks, buddy. Peace. I picture him with his earpiece in, getting dressed into the fire retardant. The sirens are going off. People are calling. We don't even have a giveaway set up yet, but let's go. No, you don't. Or con it.
    95:54
    Right. To accept, press one. To send a voice. Hey, right. What's going on? Who's this? Who are we speaking to?
    96:07
    It's Ryan. BC. Man! What's going on, buddy? What's the scoop? I sing a little Stone Temple Pilots and I win the play field or what? You know what? It was an idea that I had that we nixed the last minute. We did nix it. I mean, you're welcome to sing. I'm up for it. Or if you have an idea of how to get the play field away in, you know. Maybe we give away the play field to the person that has the best idea on how to give away the play field. Yeah, that might work. Or maybe we give the shirt away. Oh, I forgot about the shirt. to the person that has the best idea on how to give away the play field. We've got about 25 minutes to figure all this out. I know. We're running out of time. We are running out of time. But anyway, it's going to be an interrupt.
    96:47
    Okay, so I won't belt out the Stone Temple then. No, let's do it. Only for the play field, man. Well, I mean, you can call back in. You can call back in. I mean, so let's build up the drama a bit more. I'll wait. No, I'm down. But build it up. Let's go.
    97:05
    Okay, we'll see. We'll see. If it wins the play field, I'll do her. I can appreciate the negotiating here.
    97:15
    Negotiations are – I appreciate it. I think they've come at a stall. I don't know. Right. I feel like I'm at home again. We'll wait, and we'll see what the ante is here. Well, all right. So that's a good suggestion. You want to do like some old, obscure, special one with trivia question? Something about a shirt or something? I like that kind of shit. Okay. Well, here. Okay. I was trying to think of one when I just – Here, here's an old flipping out pinball streaming question that we have. Mute the mics for a second. All right. Ryan, hang on the stream.
    98:02
    We're going to let you go. We'll start by doing this T-shirt here. But what do you have to say? Anything else?
    98:09
    Okay, sweet. He can tell you, Bill, but he can only tell you if he's going to win the play field. All right. That was it. So we're going to start off with the T-shirt, Bill. All right. So I've asked for feedback, and I got approved for my idea here, right? Yeah, good job. All right. Okay. All right. And, Ken, you agree that it is a certain number?
    98:32
    Yes. Okay. All right. I like it. Yes. So no international shipping being offered here. No. And if you're currently offering pinball content, whether it be means of podcast, YouTube, streaming, Facebook Live, we're going to ask that you refrain and let somebody jump in. Not that everybody's jumping on at this, but just to kind of give some clarification. A little warm-up, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right. So this is for the T-shirt, y'all. This is for the T-shirt. And for those of you coming in late, it's the first of our legendary line, artwork by Dane Henry Jr. featuring Medusa and Cyclops in the legendary T-shirt line, available at pinballwizard.com, which is the exclusive merch and accessory add-on store, powered by Jersey Jack Pinball. We're not doing calls right now. Sorry. That might have been Zach there. That's brutal.
    99:23
    Thank you for hanging up on me. Okay, go ahead. All right, so on special note, what was the first episode? we had a guest on. And who was that guest? And bonus, you'll get the size t-shirt that you want if you can tell us what episode number that was, or who the guest was. Was that cool? Yeah, that was good. The episode number and the guest. All right, we have a winner. No, we don't. Kind of. Nope. Oh. We did not have it. I'm getting close. Actually, I got to look.
    99:55
    So you need the episode number. That's what I thought it was. Hang on. The episode, you want to check just a little bit. The episode number and the special guest. It just has to be the episode number. And who the guest was. It's a car. And who the guest was. Come on, guys. What's the name of the podcast again? Special one? Hang on. All right, yeah. All right, so. It goes in chat. Mr. 9865. I like it. Has that. Mr. 9865. Episode three, Dwight. So you guys did two. Hank Sanity Falls says episode one, Ken Cromwell. I like it. I mean, it's got style. Bill, we were guests on our own show for. If we had bumper stickers, I would award that a bumper sticker. So Mr. 9865, message any one of us three on Facebook or reach out to Ken. Reach out to the Flippin' Out guys. Yeah. And then I'm happy to ship that. We need your t-shirt size and your message shipping address. I can ship it from work. Very nice, guys. It's a promo, so that's no problem. Okay. I just, I thought it was. Damn, I feel like we're moving on. I just thought, who was it? And I was like, Dwight. I was like, oh, damn. It was like the first. Yeah, so Dwight. Dwight was the first guest. And so on episode two. So you guys. Fun fact. You guys almost failed until you had Dwight on. Terry was a guest. And then it just blew up. Well, no, actually, how we did it was we recorded three episodes before we ever. This is true. All right, let's take a phone call here.
    101:20
    Answer that. Call from Glenn Wachter. To accept. Kyle Glenn, what's going on, buddy? Hey, fellas. I actually have got my guitar and a song ready to go. Okay. Sweet. You know, you ain't going to win anything. This is bonus material. I love it. First, we're going to do sports training. I love it. I need to interrupt here first. Mr. 9865. Okay. XL is great. We're definitely going to make sure you get a shirt. Email or message us on Facebook, Zach, Steve, or myself. Yep. So we get the correct information so we can make sure that you get your shirt. Or I would highly recommend just trying out this size small. It's great for headwear. It's ready to go. Toddlers. Right. All right. So, Glenn, I have to say that, but make sure you follow the appropriate channels on how to do this because we want to make sure you get your price. All right, Glenn, go ahead. Sorry to interrupt you there. All right. What I'm going to do is I'm going to take it off the earbuds. I'm going to put it on speaker because I think the audio is going to be a little bit better. Can you all hear me? Sounds better already. Sounds good, man. Sounds good.
    102:23
    Oh, there we go. I know this song. Yeah, baby. Waiting On Sunday afternoon For what I Can't be alive Alive Feeling like a hand in a fist So do you laugh, don't you cry Reclose Yeah, that's good. Nice. Nicely done. Yes.
    103:13
    How long do you think it will go for? Full song. It's real good I appreciate the cover here This is good I feel like I'm getting Starinated to a certain extent Hey if he does a little free bird I'm buying one of these shirts To ship to him Just to let you know If he rolls in the free bird That'll take us right to The closing credits here We should tell him that We had a connection issue And what was he trying to sing Oh yeah he's going baby Yeah it's good It's real good All right. Hey, Glenn. Hey, awesome. Nice job, man. Hell yeah.
    103:50
    Bring in the heat, baby. That was really cool. Come on. You got 20 seconds for a jingle? Yeah, real quick, though. On the Q101 Live CD, when Stone Temple Pilots came in and they performed the acoustic version of Interstate Love Song in studio, the line is, as Glenn's saying, it's feeling like a hand in rusted shame. and what they did, what Scott Weiland did, because man Cal Muller thought the lyrics was feeling like a ham and mustard shake. That's what he thought the lyrics were. They actually recorded it on his CD. Oh, my gosh. Feeling like a ham and mustard shake. I just know. Feeling like a ham and mustard shake.
    104:30
    That's good, Glenn. Thanks, man. Hell, yeah. That was cool of you. You're the man. Fucking awesome. Listen up, guys. Albert Agar is back with the Pinball Nerds and I just want to say amen. Amen, brother. Cheers. Good to see you back.
    104:46
    Glenn? Hey, I like that, Zach. Free bird. That was fun. That was pretty cool. Glenn's a professional, without a doubt. I mean, coming up with a guitar and singing? I know. Now, if he could have just fired up the guitar and played some Patience,
    105:03
    that could have been played for him. Okay, so Zach had an idea earlier. Right. It was someone wins the play field by giving the best impersonation of the Cromwell closer from the podcast. Oh, no. Who knows what that is? I kind of like that. Who knows what that is?
    105:31
    What do you think? I think I might know what it is. I know what it is. Yeah, okay. I've said it a few times. a few times too often. Yeah.
    105:40
    I'm still saying that damn thing on the JGP podcast. I'm still rocking that. I know. It's just like my sign-off. It's your stick.
    105:49
    Occasionally it gets thrown on the free play. Just because it's like force of habit. The whole everybody have a good you know. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Every time we fire up, I want to be like What's up, Pinball Land? Listen, I said my stick. Not Ken's. We cool. Everything was so fluid back in the day because we were just so used to doing it. I mean, even remember the Lermont spot. Oh, yeah. Offering a custom quality play field mod with lighting on your pinball machine. L-E-R-M-O-D-S. Visit Lermonts.com today. Why I remember that is, like, amazing to me because I can't remember my daughter's birthday. You don't. But I can remember the whole freaking Lermonts.com ad. Yep. I actually ordered my first mods from them a couple weeks ago, and I'm like, I wonder if they're just going to give me some 20% off. It's just for, you know, because I never ordered anything from them, right? Right. Of course, I got a love note, Bill. Hope you and the family are good. For sure. You know, Kim was real nice. Didn't get my 20, though. I'm like, oh. Did you put in the coupon code SWL10? I thought about trying it. Did you get that 10% off? I'm just being a smidgen. Rob and Kim are really nice people. They're awesome.
    106:50
    Unfortunately, recently just lost connection with them. But, you know, I didn't see them at TPF. So hopefully they're doing well. First time. What do you mean they're my opposer?
    107:02
    I mean, probably. I just don't know what situation you're talking about here. Yeah, hey, yeah, totally understand remembering random stuff but forgetting the important stuff. That's how it is.
    107:16
    I got to delete stuff off the hard drive. Like it's in recycling, but I need the empty recycling bin too. You know what I mean? It's like I just got to figure it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then it happens when you have a hard drive. You have some uncut stuff I'm sure that would be fun you can throw in the years to come. We do have a lot of outtake stuff. Yeah. You know what? That would be kind of fun one day. Just to do all the outtake stuff. Well, that would be the infamous episode 90.
    107:42
    You know? And actually, Amanda. That was episode 89. You guys ended on 89? Yeah. I think Madeline was sick. We were going to do 89 and 90, and then Madeline was sick, and then you were transitioning, and it just got crazy. Actually, it's funny. I think Amanda has two hours of me using some colorful verbiage that she's literally been saving and has a reel of this colorful thing. Well, you should have three hours of her colorful ribbons on too. Come on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Are you having fun doing the podcast? Oh, yeah, absolutely. With Amanda? Yeah. Yeah, it's good. We actually have a lot of guests on, right?
    108:20
    Fair amount, yeah. Yeah, it's good. It's good. I'm happy that you guys are doing that. I do listen, so it's a fun show. I wish we had more time for it, you know. Free play pinball podcast. Yeah. Yeah, check out FreeFeed. Okay, that's a good idea. Episode 15. That's a lot of episodes, actually. They add up fast. I can't believe it's 15. Yeah, that's a lot of episodes.
    108:44
    All right, boys, how are we going to give away this beautiful play field? Signed by everybody. Here's the deck, people.
    108:55
    I'm open. I had the whole team sign up. You've got Eric Menier signed to Keith Johnson. That's awesome. Joe Katz, J.T. Harkey, Duncan Brown, Bill Grupp, Ted Estes, Peter Dorn. Peter, your buddy Peter. Who am I missing? No, I want this damn thing. Who am I missing? I want that damn thing. Come on. Yeah, I mean, it's a really, really nice wall hanger.
    109:21
    All right, so literally everybody, just to let you know, literally getting these play fields is a special kind of a thing, right? Even if you buy them, they're not easily accessible, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
    109:32
    But then to have everybody sign it, that – I mean, how many times does anything leave the factory that is signed in a manner in that – I know. That is not – I think any time – so – Do you want to hold that up again? I've got a pretty extensive collection of items, right? For your personal?
    109:49
    Yeah, for my personal. I mean, just for collecting over the years. And it's like the two things that I always like to collect, like transites are really cool and playfields. But playfields don't come around as often. So, you know, whenever I would get in possession of a playfield, I'd be pretty thrilled with it. Even working at Jurassic Park, when I get in possession of a playfield, like I'm still like excited about playfields because it presents so well. It's probably one of the coolest collector pieces that you can own and display easily on a wall. It doesn't, you know, it's pretty cool. Yeah, two screws on the top. I don't know if I could point out all the signatures. No, don't point out where they're at. Well, there's some signatures down at the bottom.
    110:30
    They're all at the bottom. There's one here. Ooh. So, yeah, they're kind of sprinkled in. Mostly down at the bottom. All right. I hope it's the last time we'll see it tonight, guys. Woo-hoo.
    110:46
    And that artwork, again, Dane Henry Jr. Dane Henry? Also did the t-shirt? Who also did the t-shirt. Right. Yeah. Congrats on the win.
    110:56
    I need to buy that t-shirt. I need an OMAD t-shirt. I can offer you free shipping on the shirt. And I know. It's going to be right here. What's the brand? That's like the brand. Next Level. Actually, it's the same. They're all so comfortable. The Next Level shirts are really really they very form but you got a little bit of room in there They don shrink up a lot when you wash them They still soft They still soft So do you remember the Crownville Closer by heart I do. I do remember the – I'm still using it, Dad. Are we doing this? I did a podcast for Jersey Jack Pinball like six months ago, so I remember. Are we doing this for the play field giveaway? The closest – Put the coffee down. Coffee's for Crownville Closer. Actually, that would be a good promo. I don't know. You want to do it? That sounds pretty good. How about this is what you have to do. You have to do the Bill Webb and Ken Cromwell close. Ooh. And that's the diehard. We'll judge it because, I mean, we did it. We'll do three calls. And whoever does it the best, obviously accuracy, impersonations for a plus. We'll do three to five of them. Myself and Bill, at the end of every single podcast, we had a back and forth that closed the show. So for those of you that know, or if you want to go ahead and pull up an episode of Special Olympic Ball Podcast right now and go to the end, you can probably hear it real quick because it's literally on every single episode. We'll give you three minutes before we take call-ins. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. Do some studying. Yeah. Do some studying. Just play it. I'm your friend. What were you just doing right now? I mean. It's crazy as well. Oh, that was one of those times, or more than one time. And I'll lead you in. It would be for Bill Webb, I'm Ken Cromwell. And then it would be like boom and boom. And then we'd sign off. So there we go. The good old days. I love it. It is the good old days. I love it, boys. Do it now. Okay. Yeah, we're taking call-ins now. All right. Open up the phone line. 630, what is that, 394-4242? That's a pretty good call-in number, actually.
    113:01
    Google, give me a good one. 588-2300. Empire. My favorite one is still the best part of waking up. There's folders in your butt.
    113:17
    What? Or butt. You can get your ski shined up and grab a stick of juicy fruit. The taste is going to move you. Juicy fruit going to move you. That's what JJP needs. We need a jingle. I think that's what we need.
    113:34
    Actually, kind of fine. Calling to win. I'm not even going to say that. So it's evident to me nobody's listened to the show here and remembers our iconic sign-offs. No. But that's okay. I remember it. Does that mean I get to still wait? You might win the play. All right. Here we go. You're not providing any pinball content, are you? Call from Lord Helmet. To accept, press 1. To send a voicemail, press 2. Press 2?
    114:00
    What's up, Mike and Helmet? What's going on? What the hell? Why is nobody calling in? What the hell? Well, give us the impression. Come on, let's go. All right, all right, all right.
    114:11
    All right, so everybody take some time to play some pinball and have a good morning, good evening, good night.
    114:21
    All right, that was a part of it. All right. Now, you're not living with or affiliated with anybody that's providing pinball content right now, are you? Yeah, I tried to fight that off. I don't know. But I get it. Oh, my man. It's pretty close. I love it. I'm all right. All right. I appreciate it, man. Thanks, Mike. It was really good. It was really good seeing you and Amanda at TPF, by the way. Oh, dude, it was great. It's always great seeing you guys. Good times. Bye. All right, have a good one, Mike. Hey, man. Peace. You know what I liked about that call is it kind of kicked it off. It totally kicked it off. That was a great warm-up. Dropped a little bit of clues. It was like a puzzle. Like, you had to put it in order. There was some missing pieces. It was like ad-libs. Remember those? Yeah. It's like ad-libs. Ad-libs. Playing with a puzzle at the web house. You got part of it. That was good on Mike's part, though. I appreciate Mike calling in. Oh, yeah. He got a piece of it.
    115:18
    And Sammy falls like, content creators are disqualified, and there's nobody in chat that's not providing pinball content.
    115:25
    That's a good point. It could be a slipper thing. You're like, Mike, do you live in a house? Are you affiliated with anybody? If we don't get a call in the next few minutes, maybe we'll be creative and do something. We'll do something. Yeah. I got an idea. Just take, like, the third caller and just be like.
    115:44
    Amanda tried to coach Mike through it and was probably like, damn it. Well, we got six minutes to figure this out. And then it just goes back into the pool for next Monday or Wednesday when you guys turn. We just keep pulling it up? Yeah, I would just do that. It's like when you go to the casino and what do they call it? The rolling jackpot. It's the progressive. Yep, progressive jackpot. So every week that nobody wins it, I'll give you another play field. I'll just be sitting here all week. You'll just have like eight weeks, eight play fields. But you come in next week then, right? I'll drop it off. I'll drop off a Hobbit play field or something. That's like one of my favorite lines from a movie, Bad Santa. Well, they all can't be winners. Right. We were just talking about the chocolate. Yeah, right. All right, here we go. Here we go. Here we go, candy corn. That's awesome. Call from Glenn Wechter.
    116:36
    To accept, press 1. To send a voicemail. Glenn, welcome back to the show. Hey, fellas. Hit it. So am I ready to go? Yeah, yeah. We're going to knock these out. For Bill Webb, this is Ken Cromwell. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon. And everybody, take a little bit of time. Go play some pinball. Good night, everybody. Pretty close. Very close. It's close. Very close. Now, Glenn, you're not providing musical intros for any content creating pinball podcasts or anything right now, are you?
    117:07
    Not at the moment. He's a free agent. Right now, I've neglected to clean up my dog's poop in so much fun. Oh, no. No, me too. It's good you got to stream on while you're doing that. That's perfect. I like it. Pretty close. Pretty close, Glenn. I will say that you were closer than Michael. That was awesome. Oh, no. All right. Thank you. All right. Thanks, Glenn. All right.
    117:28
    All right. One down. Two more victims to go. Two more to go. Getting close. I think that Zach's got one of the good comments there.
    117:44
    Just a bit outside. Come on, man. I don't know if you've listened to free play and caught that when some shit's going off the rails, and I'm just like, just a bit outside. I like that. Oh, yeah. It's always good. I try to reserve the 220-221 line. That's a throwback to the show. 220-221, whatever it takes. Yeah. Yes.
    118:08
    All right, let's do it. Here we go. I'm nervous. Call from. To accept, press 1. To send a voice message, goodbye.
    118:21
    Hey. Oh. That was close, though. That was pretty close. That was their chance at victory. That's pretty close. Chariots of Fire was playing. Call from.
    118:29
    Tony Scoots. Tony put out the fire. He's back. Scoots, you were on air. What's up, buddy? What's up, man? Tony, I hear like fire in the background, dude. Are you calling while you're fighting a fire?
    118:42
    I just wanted to tell you guys I'm back, and everything's okay. I just had to go on an ambulance call. Oh, good. It's good to hear.
    118:50
    And we had to help him. That's all. I just wanted to let you guys know I'm back, and everything's good, and love the show. Miss you guys.
    118:57
    Cool. You know we're in the middle of a contest right now, right? Oh, what's the contest? The contest is, do you recall the ending call-off for Bill and Ken on Special Whiplift Pinball Podcast?
    119:14
    Oh, God, it's a tough one. And if you do, you've got to say it right now. I'm going to have to say, Bill, leave the gun, grab the cannoli.
    119:26
    All right. I only said that like three times. I don't even know. I don't know. I don't remember, guys, but it's a great show. If I did remember, you know, I wish I did, and I don't. All good. It's okay. I'm glad you're safe, and thanks for everything you're doing, man. Keep the community safe. I like that. Yeah. Keep on rocking, Tony, 100%. Great show. Keep up the good work, and I hope to see you guys in the future. Yeah, definitely. We definitely will.
    119:55
    All right, guys. Have a good one. Yep. Be good, Tony. Peace out, buddy. All right. You know, it's crazy. We're waiting for the next call. Two-minute warning. We got Tony on an unexpected situation.
    120:09
    Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He should have went live with the phone, just brought it out on the ambulance. Quick sidebar story. Do you remember when we were going to have Steve Ritchie on, and he's like, okay, I'll be here on this Monday. And it was, I'll be here this Monday. Yeah, I was there. I was there for a couple Mondays. No, not you, Steve Ritchie. He was supposed to come a couple of times. I know. Oh, God damn, Bill. I know. Sidebar story. What? Not really sure what to say about that, Bill. You showed up. It was a good time. You had things going. Of course you did. He's the king. What's up, Jason? Welcome to Flippin' Up. Hey, guys. How's it going? What's up, man? How are you, Jason? I'm doing well. How are you guys? Pretty good. Thanks. Very well. Thanks for calling in.
    120:47
    Absolutely. So, what's up, man? All right. I'll give it a shot. I love it. All right. Ken, you want to do the lead-in? Yeah, I'll lead you in. Here, you ready? Take off when Bill kicks in? Let's do it. We're going to wrap this one up. For Bill Webb, I am Ken Cromwell.
    121:05
    And I, Bill Webb, have a good morning, good afternoon, and good evening. And don't forget to take some time out of your day to play pinball. Oh, so close. That is so close. It was like 97%. It was 97% all day. That was so close. That was really, really good. I appreciate that you were able to articulate that even better than I usually did.
    121:29
    So close. I think Jason's in the lead here. Yeah. Jason's in the lead. So let's write his number down. How do we get a hold? Because we'll take one more call. Jason, what's your tag on Twitch?
    121:41
    On Twitch, Mr. Slapsave. All right. Sweet. Hey, reach out to us on Facebook. Do you have a Facebook, Jason? Oh, yeah, absolutely. All right. Reach out to us and, you know, if you want to reach out to us, we'll get you taken care of, all right? All right, cool. I know a guy that knows how to wrap up pinball play fields. He does all right. All right, man. I'm right on, buddy. Nice job. All right, guys. Have a good night. All right, you too. See you, man. Thanks.
    122:07
    Yeah, are my ship in this in my famous village? I have a box for you. This is okay. He's okay. So he had you kick it off. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I like that. It was breaking off the rust. I felt like I wanted to roll right into it. You know, maybe at the end we just kind of nailed it ourselves, but Jason did a good job. I was impressed. You guys are going to nail it yourselves. All right. I don't know. I mean, come on. We need like 1,000 bits to pull that kind of – I mean, there's dust on there.
    122:34
    Shoulder's dusty. I don't know. Is that what you're doing? Looking for a star party right now? No. A star party. No, I'm just talking crap.
    122:45
    Let's go. By the way, I got you a dib-dib. Dib-dib. I'm good. I'm at two tonight. All right. Here we go.
    122:55
    Call from Michael. Sounds familiar. Hello, Michael. Oh, made it through just at the end. Yes, you did. You're back. Now, you haven't called in the last 90 days, right?
    123:11
    Last 90 days, no. You haven't won in the last six months. Fair enough. You're good. All right. Are you going to participate? Do you want me to lead you in on this? Yeah, if you would. Okay. All right.
    123:25
    So for Bill Webb, I'm Ken Cromwell. Everybody have a good morning, good evening, good afternoon. And don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long, everybody. Oh, it's so close. Oh, my God. One thing out of one. One thing. Yeah.
    123:44
    Really well done, Michael. So, like, I think we need to take one more call because right now, between Jason and Michael, I think we've got to go to chat and see, you know, who would break that. They're by far the two closest. Accuracy, 97%, 98%. And for each, it was just like one thing out of order. And I think it was the same thing out of order for both. Yeah.
    124:06
    Occasionally, well. Yeah. Occasionally, I would change. I'm not going to. Well, I don't know. We've never really changed. We messed up. No, no, no. Michael's still here. He's like, hey, wait a minute. No, no, no. I'll leave. No, no, you're good, man. You're good. I didn't mean to be rude. No, no. You stunned me. I was trying to figure out who that was. A couple of episodes, it got a little whacked. No, what you used to always, after like the first five episodes. You used to take drain it or save it and make it save it or drain it a couple times. Oh, I did that more than a couple. Thank you for being, you know, sticking up for me there. I should have done a couple of those tonight, boy. It was just one of those things. That was one of those things that literally you had to re-record every week. I know when we get to this part of the show, I'm going to have to edit this. So I'm just going to put a marker right here. Remember we used to do the class? Yeah. The Scott Denisey. Son of a. We went up to Scott Denisey's house right before they were getting ready to reveal the next game after TNA, which ended up being Rick and Morty. So we took all of our podcast gear out there. We're sitting in Scott's basement. He's got a nice little game room. He's got a golden tee. By the way, Michael's still on the line. Hey, keep Michael on the line. Are you good listening to this story, Michael? Yeah, I'm fine. All right, cool. Just checking. So we get out there. We set up this whole portable studio, and we're getting ready to talk. At some point in the episode, there was a mistake, and Scott's like, hey, if you're ever recording an episode and you don't want to re-listen to it, whenever you need to do an edit, he's like, clap. Because what's going to happen is if you're using Audacity or whatever you're using, you're seeing the spike on the meter. Yep. and you know to go back there. And I was like, that made a lot of sense. The problem was, so whenever we would mess up, we would clap.
    125:49
    But I never, I always listened to those episodes all the way through every single time because I used to do heavy edits. Yeah. And then towards the end, I was like, ah, who cares. That's good. No, yeah. Just going to go for it. All right. But yeah, so. But towards the end, though, I mean, but you have to, how do I say it? Towards the end, though. Amanda's like, why the hell are we not doing that? But I think it's different when you're in the same room versus being across country, basically. For the most part, she just has to edit out F-bombs out of me. But you and I would have more edits and stuff. But towards the end, you and I really didn't edit because we were on flow and we knew what to say, what not to say. We had gotten through all the pauses. We'd kind of gotten better with the ums and that kind of stuff. And it's funny, too, because when you are recording with somebody for so long, you start recognizing the sound waves on certain words. And it was funny because when Jason Fowler was doing the Slap Save Pinball podcast with Chris Haper, I would talk to Jason. We both did pretty regularly.
    126:48
    And Haper had a tendency to drop F-bombs a lot. And Jason could identify this, like, reverse walnut waveform. that would be throughout the podcast. So we knew, you know, maybe he wasn't going to edit them all out, but he knew where to go in and just clip them just by the waveform, which I thought was pretty funny. But when you are that close to the F-bomb waveform of the person. But, I mean, when you record with somebody, we did 89 episodes. Like, that waveform is kind of like your fingerprint, your audio fingerprint. So you absolutely are able to identify words, which is pretty fun. It was a good time. Yeah, it was a good time. All right. So let's let him go. And so it's a tie right now. Let's take one more call, and then we'll just kind of call it a night here. See you. Hey, nicely done, man. I appreciate it. Thanks, Michael. Thanks, guys.
    127:38
    All right, thank you. Everybody that's still around, thank you very much for joining us tonight. It's definitely been a special night.
    127:44
    It's been two years since we've done anything together. It's crazy to think about. It is crazy to think about. It's got to be able to feel good. Hasn't edited a podcast in over a month.
    127:55
    And I'm sure he still doesn't have one. Actually, I bet you're missing it. Oh, I know for a fact that he might not be missing the editing. No, I take it back.
    128:06
    Hey, kind of a combo, right? He does a good job. He likes to edit. But I can appreciate the fact that he's got some time off, 100%. Got to have time off. All right, this is going to be it. Call from Zach Many to accept press 1. All right, I'm going to call.
    128:20
    Hey, caller, you are ineligible to win, but what time? Zach, what's going on? Hey! Zach's driving somewhere with the freaking windows down. Dude, it's Monday. He's delivering a pinball. No, no, no. Dude, double or nothing, he is going to gymnastics. No. At 9 o'clock? He's ambulance scooting with Tony Scoots, probably. Zach? What's up, buddy? This is Dennis Creasel. I was wondering now if there was a fight to be won.
    128:50
    Why not? Nice try, buddy. That's nice. We had Nordman on last week. Yeah, Nordman. That was fun. I'm the second nicest podcaster in Timbuktu. Wow, this is the worst impersonation I've heard all night. All right, good night, buddy.
    129:07
    Thanks for calling in. Hey, what's going on, guys? Hey, what's going on? How are you? I just want to thank Karami for hanging out and for the rest of the Jersey Jack team for all they do. And for you two wonderful, beautiful hosts there, Beattie and Bill, for doing what you do. Thank you, guys. Yeah, man. No, that's what I, yeah. To all you guys. Has anybody cracked the closer yet, the crummy closer? Close. So close. And it's not my line that's getting messed up. It's Bill's line. What? Well, Bill mixed it up a couple times, though. Like, Bill wasn't consistent. No, he's pretty consistent.
    129:42
    I was a perfectionist at that closing. You were. You asked me. Go back to special and link to all 89 episodes and show me one time he said that out of order. If he did, we redid it. Episode one. He may have. I'm going to try to close it down. I'll hang up, okay?
    130:01
    Hey, thanks for inviting me on the podcast. All right, podcast. Thanks for inviting me on the stream. It's fun.
    130:08
    Absolutely. Coming back to the stomping grounds a little bit. Good times. Very much fun. Appreciate it.
    130:15
    For Bill Webb, I'm Ken Cromwell. Remember to take a little time out of your day to play some pinball. So long, everybody. Close. I got yours, though, didn't I? No.
    130:27
    Shit. Good luck. Should we? Wait. Can you call yourself a friend? He just said, for Bill Webb, I'm Ken Cromwell. Yeah. Yeah, no. Well, I mean, that was right. It went a little bit off the rails. There's a little bit more there. It is. A little bit more there. He missed 50%. That's okay. So he's like 93%. You can't win them all. Yeah. Sometimes you get candy corn. So are we just going to decide between, is it what, Jason and Michael? at this point?
    130:56
    Can you do a poll in chat? Can we repeat them again? No. It's literally between Jason and Michael. Let's do this. Chat will decide. Everybody, you have one minute. I'm starting my clock. Can you do poll?
    131:11
    I don't know how to do poll. Do you ever do poll? I did it once and I was impressed with myself. Remember I couldn't figure out how to raid for like months. I figured that out. And it was like all this code that I would type in. I'm not going to figure a poll out tonight.
    131:26
    Hey, listen. So Sal wanted Glenn, and Glenn did an unbelievable version of STP's Interstate Love Song, and he was solid on the call-in, so I appreciate it. There was a lot of great call-ins. By the way, everybody who called in tonight, we really appreciate it. This was fun. It's just fun hanging out.
    131:44
    But, yeah, I mean, the singing is great, but that wasn't part of the contest. No. By far the best singing of the night was Glenn. Yeah. With all of that. Wasn't it a fun song? Far and the singing. But it wasn't the tagline, though. Right. So it's between Jason and Michael. Everybody throw your votes in. We're going to do one minute, and we're going to count them. Jabber says the Jabber guy was lacking. All right, who's counting? I got my phone on.
    132:12
    Countdown has begun. We're already at, well, I'll restart it because it's clear. We're on a delay here, I think, too, right? So, yeah. All right. So everybody had like 35 seconds to figure it out first. Right.
    132:27
    You know what's funny? We're going to do this at the end of the night and we're going to mess up. We're going to screw this up. Without a doubt. You should have recorded it. Okay. So we got one for Jason. Okay.
    132:35
    One for Michael. Jason. What did you have? Three of it? I think you tabulate the Michaels and you tabulate the Jasons. And then I'll just add up the coins. I have two Jasons.
    132:47
    The slotted helmet's on this shit. Okay. Oh, there we go. Wow, look at that. All right, I think it's over.
    132:55
    No, no, we've got 26 seconds still. I got to go. My hard out is over by 11 minutes. Rainbzy, both go there.
    133:07
    Ooh, Jason. Another vote for Jason. All right, nine seconds. This is riveting Twitch, guys. This is the most riveting you'll see. on Monday between 9 and 10 p.m. It's an exciting 3-3. All right. The next one. All right. So the next one. Jason wins it.
    133:27
    Jason wins it. Wait. Oh, it's good. Jason got all the votes. This point is like test. Test is tied for more. All right. Jason won it. He's got some late votes. Nice. Jason wins. Make sure you send us a message. But on that note, I am not going to hold up Ken any longer. I know we're running a little bit later than we wanted to, but listen, we've had a great time. Ken, thank you for making the video. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It means a lot that you guys would think to have me out. Dude, let's do this more. It's really, really fun. Seriously, let's do this more. I would love to come out at some point and stream the next JJP release, too. I would imagine that I would have some guys on the team that would be motivated to come out. Maybe we can figure out some type of a post-launch party. That'd be great fun. All in? That'd be great. Yeah, yeah, that'd be fun. So after you guys' outro, can we play the special intro again? And then cut it tonight. I just want to see it one more time. If you've got it. I got it. I got it cued up. All right, Ken, you ready to do this? You're talking about the Monday Night Pinball intro? Yes. That's the Flippin' Out Monday Night Pinball. Flippin' Out Monday Night Pinball intro. Yeah, yeah. So for Steve Beattie and Bill Webb, I am Ken Cromwell. Everybody have a good morning. Good.
    134:35
    Bill Stanton. Everybody have a good morning, good afternoon, good evening. And whatever you do, don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long, everybody. Peace. That's classic. Well, it's Monday night And the week has begun I turn on Twitch First we build a ballpark We drink a cold, a match of hot And I'm free And Bill and Sweetie make a bell and sing I'm from Chicago, it's just a big fly Monday night pinball coming on tonight Are you ready for some pinball?
    135:28
    A Monday night party, yeah With the pin now, about to get some good time I'm sorry y'all, woo Loving pinball wrong, I don't want a pinball All my bad friends are here for Monday night
    136:11
    Thank you. We don't want to sway. I don't think there's any sound. All right. After hours. You know what? Peace out, y'all. We love you guys.
    136:56
    Weeet. They're not lost. Any last thoughts, boys? Ken, how does it feel to be back? Feels good. Good times, yeah? Real comfortable with you guys. Not the lighters. Orby. I know you're the one to take me home. Fade to black.
    137:22
    It's like I wish I was running this show. No, I don't wish that at all. I'd be fading to black right now. Trust me.
    137:31
    This is old school. Love it. time for you to go out to the places you will be. Hey, congrats to everybody who won tonight. Thank you all for hanging out in chat. Yeah. Thank you, Ken, so much for coming in the studio.
    137:47
    Thank you to the seven people that voted. That's amazing. It was real tight. That was awesome. Hey, we didn't have a game plan tonight. It's what it is. We used to talk on the podcast.
    138:05
    you