That's what Thanksgiving means, staying afloat on life's sea of troubles while keeping an eye peeled at all times for those unexpected little islands of pleasure. Because they're real, you just have to open yourselves up to the possibilities of happiness. You said penis. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slamtail Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Wow. Other host. I love it. Still love that you have to, you actually have to stall for a few seconds. Like, fuck, I got to actually think about this. I got it in my head. This is episode 205. Wow. So many episodes. Yes. What's new? So as the Nazi guy said in Raiders of the Lost Ark, what should we talk about? I don't know. I love that guy. I know. He was British. Yeah, his face melted. Yep. But he also had his hand melted too. Well, no, burned. Burned. But it was pretty melted. He was in Firefox. Oh, yeah, that's right. He was in Firefox. He was a Russian in that one. And he dies too. Spoiler. Yeah. Oops. Oops is only a 35, 40-year-old movie. I love that guy. That guy is the quintessential Nazi to me. It's just, what should we talk about? I'm sorry. Who's all excited about Allentown? Allentown. Yeah, I got that on my list. So that is coming up. Yep. This, well, recording Sunday, this upcoming weekend. Next weekend. You'll listen to us on the way to Allentown. Yes, you can listen to us on the way because I will have the edit done by then. Of course you will because he is. Of course I will. The Incredible Ron. So, what are you doing in Allentown? You going to play in the tournament? Yeah, that's probably the main thing I'll do. Well, $125 to play 12 games. Yeah, and only one chance each game. One chance each game, which I kind of like, actually. And there's 20 games. Yeah, so you have a choice. You've got a choice of what you want to suck at. Yeah, unfortunately, I don't know why, but they brought back Star Trek. Star Trek? Yeah, Star Trek Stern. Last year, that was the longest playing game there. Oh, oh. Oh, my fucking... And they brought it back. Well, our Zach, he's bringing some games. Yep, and so is your Bruce. Ah. What are you guys bringing? I saw a game list, and I was trying to... I was thinking, like... Okay, go get the game list up. Go. Oh, okay. You got to get the game list up. Got to get the game list and see if I can figure out which ones I think. Here's the funny thing. Uh-oh. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha. Oh. Yeah? What's the funny thing? Oh, I thought you were making a joke. No. Okay. Oh, you're a dick. Allen Town Tournament, I think I have to put it. Yeah, I think it's that. There's 20 games there, Ron? Mm-hmm. How many do you think Bruce and Zach are bringing out of the 20? Five. You got it. Exactly. Wow. Good answer. He's one for one, folks. Damn, I'm good. He's good. I think you'll be able to pick one or two right out of the bag. It says tentative. So this might be old because this post was from a while ago. Okay. It's got, okay, tentative games list, Foo Fighters Pro, Led Zeppelin Pro, Attack from Mars Remake, Stern, oh, James Bond, Premium, Dragon. Oh, God. That's the barrel version. Barrel. Barrel. The one where you want to ignore all those and just go into the pop-up as much as possible. Yes, exactly. Whirlwind, Flash Gordon, Comet. Oh, Dolly Parton again. Tron, Pinball Pool, Stars, Star Trek Pro, Stern Avengers Premium, Dragon Fist, Whitewater, Surf and Safari, Rush Pro, Mini Pool, and Stern World Poker Tour. Okay. What five is Bruce and Zach bringing? Well, I figured Surf and Safari. That is one. Rush Pro. Ding. Two. Mini Pool's got to be him, too. It is Zach. So you've just knocked out all of Zach's games. So you got two. So I'll go right above Whitewater. Yes. And Dragon Fist? The Dragon Fist is back. There you go. Wow, that was easy because they put them all in order. Five for five. And put them all in order, I know. Yep. It's because we're bringing a truck down. That's the only reason why we're bringing so many games. If we weren't bringing so many games, there would be only one again. Wait a minute. If you weren't bringing so many games, it would just be one? It would just be one game I'd bring. That's a good quote. We start with the Bruce systems early. Isn't it the truth? If I only had my vehicle going down, I'd only bring one game. But since we're bringing a truck down, we're bringing down more than one game. Mm-hmm. I got you. See? It makes perfect sense. It does make perfect sense. So what are you looking for? Now, Allentown, for those at home. Allentown is like the biggest swap meet. Yeah. It's Friday and Saturday. But realistically, it's actually if you want to buy a game, you've got to go Thursday. Yep. You've got to bring a game, leave it there so you can get inside early. You can get inside early to actually get the deals. So when the rest of us come in Friday, all the deals are already done. And then Saturday is the second day of the show, but most of the games are gone by then. Yes. So you want to make sure you're there Friday. Yes. If you're going to buy anything, Friday is your only chance in some ways, unless you get a deal at the end. Yeah, like something's just sitting there. Yeah. and it's the show I have been to the most. Yeah, me too. Oh, definitely. It's the first pinball show I ever went to. Good time. You'll see both of us if you want to hug. Yeah, this is it, ladies and gentlemen. This is your chance to see the legends of the Slant Hill Podcast. Yeah, the legends. Old and decrepit. Bruce might take your money when you come in. I might. You never know. Might give you your ticket. I might give you your ticket. Ticket, please. Is the price the same? I don't know what the price is this year. I don't know. Let's see. Because it hasn't changed in centuries. That's the other thing. I think it has changed, actually. Uh-oh. Oh, great. We'll get a comment from Dad because that will be the first thing he will notice. Let's see. So, yes, while he looks that up. Yeah, there's going to be a tournament there. You play 12 games out of the 20. You can only play each game once. It's like $125, et cetera, et cetera. Whoppers, whoppers, whoppers. $20 per person. It's still $20. Okay. I didn't know if it was $20 or not. I thought it was $18 or something like that. It's been $20 forever. Okay. Very simple. Mm-hmm. So check it out. Enjoy the rain. Enjoy the rain. The Carl Weathers's going to suck again. What's Ron buying down there? I'm not buying shit. What? I'm not even bringing money this time to buy anything. What? Nah. just going to play in a tournament, walk around, hang out. It's all good. Wow. Yeah. Not even parts. I'll do my usual where I go by and see if there's any classic stern spinners hanging out or anything. I always do that. Look for a little, you know, little things like that. I spent a lot of money already. Jesus. Well, you made a lot of pre pre deals, Bruce. Of course I did. Pre deals. Yes. Pre deals. Pre deals. Yep. Spinners, lockdown bars, Hot Dog and Plastics. Whole bunch of shit. So when you go to a show like that, what are you looking for? Anything and everything. Anything and everything. Well, anything's old stern. Anything old stern definitely is the first thing. Second, I'm looking for buddies games. Like if I know one time I was walking through, I think it was like, I think it was 2021. I was walking through the show because I was there early because I was setting up with everyone else. And I look down on the floor, and there's like a box of all these plastics for Black Rose. And it says $25. So I text Zach. Zach, box of plastics and other stuff for $25. Buy it. Grabbed it. There you go. Here's your money. He opened it up. He's like, holy crap, there's a ton of shit in here. Good deal. So that's what you kind of look for for buddies. Like, you know, for you, maybe I'd try to find you a countdown. Well, you got me at Harlem. I did find it in Harlem. Yes, I did. See? So there's other stuff that we always... That's a Bruce Harlem. Oh, my. Oh, my. Bruce in Harlem, the new movie. That does sound like a 70s film or something. Escape from Harlem. Is that the sequel to Escape from New York? Yes. No, actually, the sequel from Escape from New York and Escape from L.A. Okay, so that's a prequel. Okay, prequel. There we go. First, it was one section. Then it was just the entire city. Diversity. So are you Snake? I'm Snake Blasco. But, yeah, I've got a couple deals already lined up. We're going to try to fill up the truck. Wow. To bring up stuff back to the coop. The co-op. Yes. Trying to get to those 50 games, huh? Yeah, trying. Trying. The co-op. What's the name of the co-op again? It's the Rochester Pinball Collective. Ron, where would that be, Ron? Wow. Wow, 349 West Commercial Street. I don't know the suite number. East Rochester, New York. Okay, and the suite number is 2965. Mm-hmm. Yes, we are open a couple days a week. $20, you pay one price, you come in, and there's... Or can I go to see when you're open? You can go to ROCPinball.com or RochesterPinball.com. Ah. And check out our thing. or you can go to our beautiful Facebook page. Beautiful. Like it's clearly more beautiful than any other Facebook page. Beautiful. Because once in a while we have pictures of our winners, and once in a while it could be you or me. Oh, my. And we're beautiful, of course. We're beautiful. I've never won shit there, Bruce, just to let you know. You've actually been in the top three of one thing. I have, but I've never won shit. I've never won the big thing. Well, you've got to take down the Zach. Well, you know what Zach has never won? What has Zach never won? Stomp. I know. Has he? No, he has never won Stomp. And there's a chance to win Stomp coming up on the 19th and 20th. The 19th is a pre-tournament. It's actually our launch party for – So it's not an actual tournament then? It's the tournament, but it's pre-Stomp. Pre-Stomp. Okay, so that actually is correct, yes. Yes. Okay. And it's our Foo Fighters launch party the same day. Nice. So you'll get to play at least our pro. We have not heard anything about our LE yet, but at least you'll see and play a pro there. So that's May 19th. May 19th. Is the Foo Fighters. Pre-Stomp Tournament. The Pre-Stomp Tournament, and then 20th is Stomp. Stomp, yep. We still have some spots available for Stomp. It's one price to pay. Come in. We have prizes. Oh, shit, I've got to offer to order the trophies. Holy fuck. You've got to order them. I've got to order them. I've got to order them right now because I totally forgot about that. Come on, folks. You've got to fill this up. Don't force me to play. Yes, do not force Ron to play. Because people will be asking me to play for whopper reasons, I'm sure. Yep. But that's the whole thing with that. It's a good time had by all. And if you do come to Stomp, you then get to hang out with both of us again. Yes. This is your other opportunity. Yes. Bring pictures. Take pictures. We'll give autographs. Take pictures next to the Slam Tilt logo. Yes, we have a banner. Banner, yes. A beautiful banner of Slam Tilt Podcast. So what else is on the docket besides Allentown coming up? Which I know everyone, if you've ever been to Allentown, it's a big swap meet, really. There's usually like 300 games there. It's a big, you know, if the outside is dry, there's a couple people outside. but mostly there's a covered flea market area and it's great which used to be the main area you used to be the main area yeah that's crazy when you think about it i talk about crowded but back in the days when they had that left side oh my gosh that one section where all the games were it was it made saturdays you could barely move through you could barely move through the aisle because they had the aisles too close together you could barely get through and then Ivan took over, and then we jumped to the other side. Oh, we got both sides. No, then we got both sides. It took one year, and then he got both sides. Ah. There was one year we did not have both sides. He just had the one side. And then he's like, do you think we should take over this? I remember I was a vendor at the time, and I'm like, yes. And he did that, and he's never regretted it, I think. He's just done really well with it. It's a great show. And there's a lot of new games that go there. Cointaker goes there, and Pinstar goes there. So they bring a lot of games. We should be able to see all the new games, including Scooby-Doo and Pulp Fiction and maybe a Foo Fighters Premium. Who knows? But you'll see a lot of great games there, and you'll be able to play them. So come on out. Come on out. It's Kentucky Derby weekend. That's how I always remember when it is. It's not Mother's Day weekend this year. Mother's Day is next weekend, the weekend after. I get to do the Dachshund Parade for that. Aw. Yep. There's a dachshund parade in Rochester every year, but our dog hates other dogs, so it's kind of hard. Oh, my God. She thinks she's 12 feet tall. A lot of those small dogs seem to think they're 12 feet tall. I know. We brought her down to New Jersey, and we're like, oh, let's introduce her to my sister-in-law's dog. Got a new dog. It's kind of a mutt, you know, but nice dog, you know, but taller. She went after this poor dog. Poor dog's like maybe like four months old, and this dog's running away from our stubborn asshole dog. But she loves people. That's why I like her. She's like me. I just want to be alone. Leave me alone. And I like people when I have to deal with them. But if I don't want to deal with them, fuck you. So you hate people but like dogs. Yes. She likes people but hates dogs. Yeah. Okay. See? Works. Getting that down. Yes. Let's see. What else we got here? We got mentioned on TWIP. What? This week in pinball. How did we get mentioned, Ron? Just in their weekly summary. Yes. Our interview with Mr. Dick Dick Hamill. Yes. Was that the interview where he was giving away all of his stuff for free? Giving away all of his stuff. Oh, God. Yeah, all right. All right. There's a theme with that, isn't there? Bruce pissed somebody off. Oh, really? He got all cranky. He got all up shit real good. I don't get it because he was barely mentioned. He was barely mentioned. We're talking about Chris the Podcaster. Chris the Podcaster. I guess he went off on a major rant on Bruce. I think, honestly, it was a slow news day. It must have been a really slow news day. It was just like, what the hell? Let's do this. Why should I give away my content for free? He just mentioned the three grand a month. I think that's all he mentioned. But, man. He got butthurt for 20 minutes. 20 minutes? Yeah, 20 minutes. 20 minutes, Dan Bruce. Except I'm just going and going. You keep pissing people off, Bruce. I love it. Why can't I make money? You can make all the money you want. What I said was maybe you should donate it. So here's the funny thing. The day he went off on his thing, I get a PayPal. You got a PayPal, Bruce? Yeah, I got a PayPal message from my email. I'm like, yeah, probably a scam. Yeah, so I'm like, let me go look at my real thing. I'll go to my app. I got a donation for $200. I'm like, what? And it actually says, I'm going to pull it up right now. I got to log in. I am not a robot. Where's the buses? I got to look up buses. Okay, I'm not going to edit because that's fun. I hate that. Say, where's the buses? How many of these have motorcycles? How many of these have, one of them said, how many of these have some word I've never heard of before? So I didn't even know what I was looking for. Are you a robot? You might be an AI, Bruce. I might be an AI. Oh, God. We got an AI. AI Bruce. That's a scary thought. Yeah, I know. It is. Okay. So here we go. Great episode. Keep them coming. This is the Go to Hell Patreon to Fuck Off Fund. And I was very surprised. I've never asked anything. Now I'm going to fucking ask. What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Now I'm confused. Wait a minute. Yes, now I'm going to ask for money. But that goes against everything you just said in the previous episode. No, no. If you have liked the 205 episodes of the Slam Tilt Podcast. Or at least the 204 because you're listening to 205. You might hate this one. You might hate this one because we're now asking for something. For the first time ever besides your emails and your comments and your show suggestions. That's fine. I'm going to ask you if you've liked our content to donate. Donate whatever you want. You know what we're going to do with that money? We're not keeping it. We're not going to keep it at all. And I've already approved this with Ron. We're going to donate it. We're going to donate it to a good cause. If you donate from now until May 31st of this year, 2023, all of your donations are going to go to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. If you like the show, you want to send $3, $5. If you like what we've done for the past six years, donate what you like. It's all going to go donating to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. And I'm going to put it in the name of Lyman Sheets in memoriam. This is a great thing. This is what we should be doing with our fucking money. But no, the person I pissed off just purchased, here you go, a batman 66 sle for 25 000 so guess what their patreon people are buying him a pinball machine that he had and now sold and then re-bought ah here comes another another rant upcoming i'm sure oh of course but i'd rather give my money to a good cause a good feeling to help other people in this world and i didn't tell him to do it every week. I didn't tell him to do it all the time, but now it's his money. He can go buy his SLE games. Guess what? If you want to donate to us, we're going to donate it and do the proper thing in this world. So Bruce, where do they donate it to? They're going to donate to, I'll put the information up today, but you can donate it to my PayPal, which is wizard underscore mode, M-O-D-E at yahoo.com And you know he's old because yahoo.com, that says it all right there. I'm really fucking old. But if you donate, guess what, if you donate 50 cents, thank you. And if you want, if you want to be mentioned, we'll mention you. I have no problem with that at all. And if you donate a lot, like if the person who donated the $200 wants me to say something and say his name, I'll be happy to do that. And maybe I can get Ron to update the website maybe we can do like donations like who donated make that website probably not really wow it's just like a wordpress thing with a template i don't even know what i'd be doing i am not a web i'm not a web developer we'll put you on our facebook page there you go i can control that but it's just i'd rather do something good and guess what if chris chooses to spend his money on this stuff that's his choice because as he said that's his content and guess what i'm gonna make my money and do my thing. Well, guess what? We're going to ask for money for one thing to donate it to a good cause like I asked him to do and he refused. And I'm not asking for if you don't want to donate, don't. It's all voluntary and it's going to go to a good cause. What do you think there, Bubby? I think I was mentioned in a YouTube video for some reason because I'm on YouTube and it does one of those suggested videos or suggests something for you to watch and there was one by, his name is Johnny Pinball and it said, it was a thing about Patreons and stuff like, oh god okay, I gotta listen to this. And basically he just went through a lot of the podcasters' Patreons, what they actually get for their money etc But he got to Silverball Chronicles Chronicles By the way that my other podcast Silverball Chronicles Where would you get that beautiful podcast on You can listen to that on the Pinball Network We just recorded yesterday. It's going to be a cool upcoming episode. I think you're all going to like it. I even got two mentions of Slam Tilt in during the episode, Bruce. Nice. Very good. Did Dave Dennis complain, or is he going to edit one out? Oh, I don't know. I never listen to the episodes. He'll have to tell me if he edited it out. Yeah, exactly. He might have to. But in this video, when it got to Super Bowl Chronicles, he said, this might be your only chance to support Ron Hallett. That's so weird. I don't even know what that means, but it means he likes me, I hope. Well, but I mean, it's just weird because we don't ask for support. And the only time I'm asking for something now is because it's going to go to a cause. And that's a good cause. The American Foundation of Suicide Prevention. and that's what we don't want anybody to kill themselves we want them to be able to reach out and help each other and try to help another human being nothing wrong with that bruce is going to actually try to do some good in this world bruce is going to try to do good it's hard though it really is i am an i am an asshole yeah you you are i mean i like i said i have i have my show notes rant to bruce and i don't know what that means it might have been i might have been the oh you know what it is it's the rant to you that happened so we just talked about that okay so i have that on there all right all right yeah all right so i'll bring up later on if anybody wants to you know join in but i was surprised at so many people's comments on there who were the followers of this guy and this is your buddy you know what you want okay that's fine it's just uh i mean honestly in a in a way i kind of that how can i say this in a pc way don't say pc it bothers me less if you just you took your whole show it's just like i'm taking the whole thing as opposed to just taking a little section of it yeah but the thing is you got to have the free part to get the listenership up so you can take it behind the paywall exactly because if you start behind the paywall no one's gonna because they don't know who you are you know what i mean no of course not so i guess unless you were famous yeah you have like you hi i'm Steve Ritchie and i'm gonna just dig the dirt on everything here on my new podcast or like stern with their uh you know their what's it called their content even that doesn't cost anything their podcast no i i don't pay for it if you are you just sign up for the um insider thing there's the pay insider and there's a free insider the free insider you get you still get the podcast okay i didn't know that yeah i've never listened to it so what does that tell you they don't make it easy because you gotta log in and then i'll be playing it on my phone and then if you don't listen to it for eight times out and you gotta log in again and try to find it again and i always have trouble finding the damn thing ah let's see what else do i got in here uh well speaking of stern i got a little note here oh node board 10 oh you know the no board 10 issue yeah there's a lot of issues with no boards lately they're blowing up all over so for rush node board 10 is the node board that has the if you have a premium or an le it's got the clock motor and the um the up down ramp motor on it and there's an issue with the up down motor and the the ramp one where the what connector pins they use were not the right ones for the connector. They didn't pinch them properly. Yeah, and if it loses connection even for a split second with the game on, it will fry the board. Yes, because there's no ground. It loses ground, it loses signal, and it just goes... It's so weird how it just completely hoses. Remember when we talked about if you go back like 100, 200 episodes, how the node boards, like there was no fusing anywhere? No, and there still is no fusing. Yeah, that's what I mean. It seems like that would have been a good place for a fuse of some kind of something i don't know one and two still just scares me although it's not really it's not really a it's not really a spike of electricity i mean you're actually removing the electricity you're actually or you're moving the ground and the voltage just has nowhere to go but the thing is stern now has i guess a new motor yes new up down motor so in it it has a much longer cable that just goes all the way directly to the node board now yep which is actually how the clock motor is. If you look at that, that actually goes, I believe it goes directly to the board. Yes, it does go directly, yes. One of our friends of the show got his, even though he sold his machine. Yeah, tell him I want that, by the way. Oh, you do, huh? Yes, I do. Well, talk to him yourself. You know who it is. Ask him how much he wants for it. Okay. You see him all the time. I don't. Well, you'll see him this weekend. Yes, I, oh, next weekend. No, this weekend. This weekend, you're right. When this is released, it'll be this weekend. I've got to get that through my head. Yes, you do not get that well. You're not buying anything in Allentown. No. Did you fix anything this week? No, I haven't played anything. Oh, wait a minute. I did, okay, in League. Last week in League. Show up, and we have four games there. Where's the League at? It's at Excelsior Pub. Okay, that's a good one. Excelsior Pub in Albany, New York. No, it's not the other thing, Bruce. You can't make fun of it. We got a Guardians of the Galaxy, Twilight Zone, Demoman, and Iron Maiden. Okay. So two out of four good. What? I like Guardians. I like Iron Maiden. And I love Demoman. That's two out of three out of your likes I like. Okay. So we show up, and the Demoman is off. Oh, no. Because it takes long enough to get through League as it is, especially with the guardians there and it's like oh we can't afford to have a game down something what's wrong with the game it's like it's doing the reset thing okay can i take a look at it so what do you think i did bruce you peeked your head under the hood and went yep looks great or you reconnected all the connectors i reconnected all the connectors basically when you got the reset issue it's the low five volts yes which you know the bridge direct-to-fire capacitor driver board thing, but you can also look at the connection between the driver board and the CPU, and it's got that stupid Z connector thing on there. Yes, it does. So it has as many connectors as possible to get as much resistance in the line to get that voltage drop as much as possible. So I just went. Re-aim, please. Yeah, I just reseated everything. And then while I was in there, I just did the ribbon cables. Like, why not? Just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And it never reset the rest of the night. Nice. What was nice is this game, I opened the coin. They have the keys for the coin door. Get in the coin door. It's like, okay, where's the keys for the backbox? They're not there. But I look at the backbox, and the lock is only held in with one screw. The other one was completely removed, and the other screw is like half out. So that's how they're doing it. You just take the screw out and then take the entire lock out so you can get the trans light out. Yeah, that's really secure. Yeah, that's nice. That's secure. Very nice. Very nice. I guess you care more about the coin box, though, than you do. Well, if you steal the boards, you're kind of screwed there, too. Well, that's true. Sorry. But only pinheads would do that, so. Only pinheads would even know to do that. So, yeah, we got through leaks. So that was my repair. I was working on a Comet this week, System 9. Customer's game, boots up, two coils locked on, and they were both the pop bumper ones. So one pop bumper melted completely. So replace the coil, replace the transistor, replace the pre-transistor. One's fixed. The other one, the transistor's testing good. Like, hmm, what the hell's going on here? So going through it a little bit, like, oh, let's try next thing. It's the U6, a chip that's before inline that controls. the the signal comes from the pia which is the uh the main controller peripheral interface adapter adapter yes and again goes through another chip which is the u6 which is a 4102 and then goes to the pre-drive the resistors pre-driver and then the driver to fire the coil but this is a special solenoid so this is where the switching relay comes in also sometimes where it's just so it's So System 9 and System 11, I know they were trying to do more stuff with less stuff, but it's just terrible with the relays because one side of the relay will control the flashers and one side will control the coils. Which game was this again? Comet, System 9. So we're like, well, let's not replace the PIA because that's a bigger chip. Let's just go to the next piece online, U6. We replaced the U6, and no more lock-on coil for the second one. So now we're cleaning this customer's game. He's got a couple other issues with this game. The first two displays are wonky, so we might have to take out the display driver board, which is behind the backbox swing-out door, and reflow all the solder joints on that and see if that helps out with it. If not, that's not going to help out. It's probably a couple chips bad with that, because it's just a solid wired line from the CPU board up to that, the auxiliary driver board for the displays. So that's been our fun with that. And it's little repairs, little rinky-dink stuff like switches going bad, plastics, we've got a lot of, lately we've had, well, here's the funny thing. When I first bought my Lord of the Rings game, probably like 2005, 2006, I got the beefed-up Target they have. That's the stand-up target for the Palantir. It actually got so destroyed from being on location, it bent the beefed-up target, and so we had to buy another one and replace that. It was making just monster air balls. A couple of plastics broke in. I swapped out taxis back in the lineup this week, and Whitewater got pulled out for the tournament for going down to Allentown. and we have a bunch of games on there ready to go and get pulled into the truck. So there'll be a couple different games at the co-op this weekend and maybe next weekend, maybe a couple weekends. I think I'm going to go through the whitewater and make sure everything's good. It could use a good shop job and a cleaning of the plastics and all those ramps. Oh, my God. Well, those are all the new ramps, right? All but one. The long left one is original because it's not cracked or not beat up. It's just dirty. So I was like, why replace it? That's the most expensive one, too. Back then, you could only get, like, pieces of them. Then once I bought all the pieces except for the long one, then they made the kit up. And I was like, fuck, by Pinball Inc. But so that was my repairs for this past two weeks. Nothing big. Oh, I did replace the rectifier board on split second. Did you hurry? I did not hurry yet because I've not powered it on yet. I just finished up last night. Hurry, hurry, hurry. So I'm going to power it up today, make sure all the voltages are good, then hook up the CPU board, and hopefully we'll hurry, hurry. And then Ashley will come over and touch up the upper play field. And she's actually repairing my play field for free fall. She's doing my free fall play field. Hey, you're on the full wide body Harry Williams kick. Yes. What's wrong with that? Is there a problem with that? No, no problem. Harry Williams is the king. He is the king. So that's been my repairs, or people doing repairs for me. Because trust me, I can fix a game. I can fix any mech, most electronics. But getting to touch-ups or paint or clear, I leave that to the professionals. And that's Ashley and my buddy Vance. Vance does a good job. Have you ever touched your playfield yet? Or is that a summer project? I touch my playfield all the time. Oh, my. You mean the Quicksilver play field? Yes, sir. No, it's still sitting. You have plenty of time in your life. Yeah, but you need to do it first. Remember, we don't know if all the holes are in the right spot and all that. I'm letting you be the guinea pig there. So I get to look for the glory hole? Maybe that will be on our special Patreon. Oh, God. But yeah, so repairs have been pretty light. That's good. And at the co-op, they've been pretty light. All right, let's see. What else do I got on here? Oh, the very first thing. Puny Factory. Oh, no. We haven't talked about this game in a long time. And they put out a video for it. Well, yeah, they put out trailers and a making of video. Yeah. They're pretty, yeah. They're made from Canadian wood. Did you know that? A. They use hydro dipping. They hydro dip. What is it? They dip the toys in like paint. So they got cool like patterns on them. So they're all original. There's not one maybe. Yours will be dipped different than another person. Yep. And there's going to be 120 of these things. 120. Do you think they're going to find 120 buyers? No. Not at all. No. If they get lucky with 12. I went to the Pinside thread on this. Yeah. And I was surprised. I guess what Pinball Adventures is the name of the company. Yes. I guess there's a lot of people on the thread that are not fans of this guy. Really? I've never gotten the impression of that. Why would you say this? I don't know. I don't know what he did or anything, but I guess he's not super popular with some people. I remember Zach Many talking about how he probably can design a game better than this guy, and I have to agree with him. Well, he didn't design this. This game was designed by, I believe his name is Dave Sanders, the same guy who did Full Throttle and, well, co-designed Alien because Dennis Nordman is like, yeah, no, mostly that's me. What else? He did the Queen redesign from Barry Ousler's original Widebody design. and this. And the funny thing is, he's on Pinside and I've recognized his username because he was one of the guys in the visual pinball forums 20 years ago. Back when I, you know, if I told the story, I got into regular pinball and real pinball through visual pinball. And he was one of the authors of, he made a lot of tables, a lot of games in the visual pinball world. So they streamed this thing. With a pin bra or something was the streamer. I guess I'll give him a shout out. I don't know who that is. I'd never heard of him before. They came on, and for like 10 minutes, they were getting about one frame per three seconds. Think there's a ball there. Not three frames a second. I mean one frame every three seconds. There's the balls over there. Oh, that one's over here. Yeah. That one's down there. So they took it down, and then they came back up like five, ten minutes later, and it was fine. So they must have figured out the internet situation. And got to see this game. They had Robert Gagnon there playing it. Okay. I haven't seen Robert lately. It didn't look like it played particularly long, so that's always a nice thing. That's a nice thing. The play field, it has like 16 or 17 stand-ups, and we all love stand-up targets. You know, screw those drop targets and spinners. we want stand-ups yeah i mean there was nothing about it that was like oh my god this is like insane like why did they do this it looked very generic yeah basically it's got a ton of stand-ups on the left and right side it's got this thing in the center the punny mobile i don't think that was called it's a but you it has to drop target you hit it and it goes down and you hit into it it's got two orbits that lead to the top lanes and it's got a very target on the left a single level no ramps and it's priced like a stern pro i know that's where they kill themselves you got a stern if you price this less you might have got these you might have sold 120 but you're gonna sell 12 but if you're gonna price these the same as the stern pro for a single level playfield of an original theme. Yeah. I mean, they went total goofy. As goofy as possible. Oh, I know. The sounds look like they might get annoying if you have to listen to them for a long period of time. Yeah. I was not impressed. I thought the artwork was fine. I thought the light shows were nice. The light shows were nice, yeah. I think some things they have potential on, but yeah. You need a license, man. Not even that. Even if it wasn't a licensed theme, make the play field original or different. That too. Or at least if you have – like Houdini. Yeah. It wasn't a licensed theme, but it was. Everyone knows who Houdini is. Exactly. Just like Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, try to do something like that because this – I don't know who this appeals to. Public domain stuff would still help you out better than unknown stuff. Who the fuck knows? Anybody in the world besides 800 people in the pinball hobby or maybe 2,000 if they're following Pinside know what Puny Factory is. Nobody else in the world is going to go, hey, honey, you know what I saw today? A pinball machine. And you know what it's about? What, dear? Is it about like Star Wars or Star Trek? No. It's about Puny Factory. That's about puns. What the fuck is that about? Well, then they have their other game, Elements, which I have no clue what that's about. Yeah, I know. They had a trailer for that which showed no actual game. Of course not. A teaser. A teaser. Yeah. Well, there's two of them. There was two teasers for Elements. I have no idea what that's about. Yeah, but guess what? Stern made a lot of – early Stern made a lot of games that did not have themes. Stars, Galaxy. None of them have themes. Exactly. Except for Ali, Meteor, and Nugent. But look at this. You have all these games that didn't have themes, but you can relate somewhat to them. Okay, Galaxy. Hey, look. It's every planet in our galaxy, including Pluto, which we kicked out. Fuck you, Pluto. Fuck you, Pluto. But, you know, anything. You could have even made it like Solar System. But, honey, make it after your own stupid... It's just bad game planning. Really bad. Really leaning into the Canadian stuff. Yeah. I mean, maybe it'll sell in Canada. I don't know. So do you see them selling all 120? No. Of course not. Unless they have a psycho distributor who just buys them all up. Yeah, maybe. I guess. I don't know. I don't know. It's just... Well, he said... If you go through the thread, at one point he said they had pre-sold like 40 of them or something. Well, maybe when people seen this video, maybe it went from 40 to 12. I mean, it played. I mean, it never broke during the stream or anything. No, it never broke. That's great. That's a great thing, but it wasn't fun. It wasn't like, wow, I got to get this or wow. No, I just was not impressed. Next. Good luck on your 120. Yeah, good luck on your 120 sales or your next game. Or your next game, which is Elements. Yeah, I know. We hope. Okay, the game after that then. Yeah, good luck. Go for, like, is Dudley Do-Right licensed? Oh, yeah. Damn. I'm trying to think of Canadian. I'd like to have it called, like, Maple Syrup. Mounties. Just generic Mounties. Mounties. There you go. I like that. Or ice hockey or something like that, you know? Hockey, yeah. Yeah, yes. Why not a hockey theme? See, I know. Thank you. It hasn't been a hockey theme in a while. No, thank you. Anything. Score! Exactly. Really? Just use some imagination a little bit. Not just a stupid joke. Hockey, baby. You should be happy the Rangers tied that up. Aren't you happy? Oh, guess what? We should put a bet on this. I guess you're devils. $1. Who's winning game seven? $1? Oh, man. Okay. Oh, man. Rangers, baby. Nope. Devils, baby. So we have our bet. I hear there's a thing going around lately. I'm going to throw this at you right now as a curveball. Yeah, it's pretty bad. No, no, no. It's pretty bad. everyone's looking for Dave Fix. Everyone's looking for him? Has he disappeared? Everyone's like, well, we haven't heard anything about GTF and all this other stuff. That right baby That right I coming up with my next plan baby But everyone like all doing like the complaining stuff and everything So here the funny thing I luckily have Dave fix his phone number. Oh, God. And what did I do? I called him. He texted me right back. He goes, I'm on the phone. I'll text you back in two minutes. Three minutes later, I got a call from Dave. Talked to him for like 20 minutes. Asked him what's up. They have a plan. but it doesn't need to be everyone need to know basis guess what if you have a thing in it's going to be fixed if you don't have a thing in okay that's right baby we got a plan we got a plan to get the it gets the four Hoffman we can't we don't want to tell what the plan is because the four Hoffman might come and beat me up in a parking lot or something but they did have a press release and they did put out something uh about one of the issues I'm going to pull it up right now on my he said pull it up my yahoo page my are you talking about the targets yes yes they're They're working on a shield for the top, like an airball shield. Yep. Because they're having major issues with just airballs hitting that tank. He put out a press release for every of this kind of stuff, and that's the good thing. He's at least putting that out, but most people didn't see it or follow it. So it's out there. Keep your ears open a little bit more and just not complain. But I love everyone's like, oh, I can't get enough of this person. This person should be talking more. Guess what? When you call GM, does everyone at GM come and just, hey, I'm going to go work on your problem right away? No, they're going to be like, hey, you're in a queue. This is this. We've got to figure stuff out. It takes time. It's a company. It's not just you're calling your mom and pop place going, hey, my burger wasn't good, you know, and what can you do about this? Next time you come and get a free meal. Okay, thank you very much. I just don't understand it. It's a corporation. It takes time to get stuff. But guess what? I got in touch with Dave right away. And there's a plan. You got American Pinball. You got Pinball Adventures. And now we got another company. Another company? What's this, Ron? Yes, the guy that made Elf. Bob Knies? Knees? Yeah, I think it's Knees. But I'm not 100% sure. He's going to start his own pinball company. It's going to be called Tilt Bob. I do like that part. I do like the name. And it's going to be out of Florida. Yes, Tampa. The thing is, he plans to do, this is from Nap Arcade. Hi, Nap. Hi, Nap. He plans to do all the work on his upcoming games in-house, cabinetry, mechanical, software, play field. It's like, is he going to hire people? Is he doing it all himself? A lot of work. I have a problem with Nap Arcade. You just brought him up. I got a problem with him. Uh-oh. He was like 40 minutes from my house, and I said, hey, you're 40 minutes from me, and he didn't stop by. Yeah. and he's been up in Rochester before for tournaments for his kids. Not pinball tournaments. No, no, for other tournaments, lacrosse and that kind of stuff. And I see him traveling all over the East Coast. I guess we're not worthy up in upstate New York. I guess his kids are just more important than us. I guess he needs to get his ass in gear and get his ass up here. So this is a call out. Well, not just his ass, the rest of them too. Yes, if he wants his whole body, he can come up, yes. But Mr. Knapp, we do have a common thread with each other. He knows about it and I know about it. And I like to see him come up here and enjoy the RPC. So get your ass up here or go to Ron's. If you go to Ron's one day, I'll go out and meet you there. And we all have fun together, all three of us. How does that sound? Ron? Mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, yes. so you you both locations are available for your picture taking because he does do nice pictures and nice yes he does i love him besides that but get your ass back up here he went to the silver ball now i gotta get him up to the rpc i saw one of our guests last night who's that justin fitzgerald oh hi justin there was a term uh tournament going on in tennessee and there There was a stream, and it's like, there's Justin Fitzgerald. Nice. He's got way more hair than me. I'm jealous. I'm at that point now where I'm now jealous that people with a lot of hair, because I'm bald. Oh. Yeah. Bald? Well, balding. Balding? My favorite part, though, is they were playing. The finals were, it was like Dragon Fist, Cheetos involved. Yeah, they had a lot of those. It's a beautiful thing. My favorite part is, though, the announcers, they had two adults and then one was obviously a kid, probably 11, 12 years old. And he was correcting the adults constantly. Nice. Nicey, nicey. Is this a young Zach Fry? That's how I picture it probably was. Nice. Let's see. What else do I got in the notes here? Trying to save the ball bag for last. but another thing I want to talk about is our last guest he gave away everything for free and that's what the theme was last episode free it should be free in this world cause I'm free free ballin' ballin' free ballin' free ballin' yeah see very nice I like that free ballin' yep it is summer coming up It is. What have we got? Foo. Oh, yeah, Foo Fighters LEs. Yes. They were making the LEs, and in the middle of the LE run, they just switched over to premiums. Yes, because I think they have a part shortage of something. There's a part shortage, and we'll be getting the premiums for a little while, because I think everything else, I think it's probably going to be cosmetic. But unfortunately, it looks like your LE, or should I say RPC's LE, must have been in that second half of the match. It hasn't gotten made yet. Yep, so we're kind of screwed. Well, you have a pro. Yes, we do. We have a pro. We're all set with that. It's a good game. Actually, I've been playing it a lot more. It's fun. It's fun. Shots are really delayed. Really delayed. Like, you know, where you think you're... They're later when you think they are. Yes. Okay. They're really delayed. I feel like I'm like, uh, and then, okay, yes, I'll get it. But once you get used to that, it's great. Then you go to another game and you're totally fucked up. They did increase the thickness of the ramp cover. Oh, good. On the left side. Good. I guess on the alleys it's thicker. They're all breaking. Yep. Zach's broke. Ours, you know, ours at the RPC broke. A lot of other people's have. Mike F. from Baltimore. Hey, Mike. His at the, I forget the name of his place, Crab Town. His broke same day, first day. It's like, ugh. So, yeah, it kind of sucks. Get some thick-ass Lexin on there or something. Fuck. Lexin. Shit. I love fuck. uh what else we have coming oh figure mention this because next time we record it'll be the day after it happens pin Slash pin Slash is coming up you've qualified ron you're probably second or third in it right no no no this is the um the carl d'Python Anghelo thing the what would you call it like remote tournament like everyone streams from their house it's a streaming tournament and it's basically the um head-to-head format you get a challenge you both start at the same time It's whoever finishes first wins the challenge, et cetera. And there's all these wonderful challenges. And the problem is I probably wouldn't know how to do any of them. That's just the issue I would have. Yeah, I don't either. Your challenge is to start this. Like, ugh. And you own the game. I don't even own the game. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. I'm pretty bad at this stuff. Yeah, I was like, huh? But, yeah, that's going to be Saturday. So this upcoming Saturday, check it out. It's going to be at IE Pinball, I'm assuming. Yes. Most of the people who are going to Allentown will be probably watching it while waiting around. No. No, actually, I fucked that up. It's not next weekend. It's the weekend in between. Oh, so it is the Mother's Day weekend. So after Allentown, a week later, you can watch this. Wow. Way to be good. But, yeah, check it out. IE Pinball on Twitch. What did I say that was? The 15th. 15th, yes. No, that's not the 15th. What the fuck? I'm looking at the wrong goddamn calendar. What are you doing? All right, hold on. We're going to just start this again because it's so fucked up. No, you're not. No, this is perfect. Just stay right in. No. 13th. No. 13th. We're done. Fixed it. Done. Okay, he doesn't want me to edit. So 13th. May 13th. Once again, repeat. May 13th. Hey, do you know what came out two months ago we didn't even talk about? What came out two months ago that we didn't even talk about? The Steel Panther new album. Oh, God. On the prowl. On the prowl. Yes. All right. I'll have to check that out. You want to hear some of the song titles? Yes, I do, Bruce. You do. Okay. So first one is, Is My Dick Enough? Okay. Second one, Magic Vagina. Okay. Third one, Porn Star. Porn Star. Okay. Fourth is, Never Too Late to Get Some Pussy. Oh, my God. Good Lord. Ain't Dead Yet. Okay. Teleporter. Is that about – wait a minute. Teleporter. Is that about TX Sector? It's a song about TX Sector called Teleporter. 1987 because probably that's when they feel like they were in their prime. Yeah. All that and more. Uh-huh. Put my money where your mouth is. sleeping on the roll away friends with benefits on your Instagram and one pump chump that's freaking awesome some of these titles are like oh my god and some of these are like what the fuck It's going to be a class. I saw them a couple months ago, and I'm going to see them again when they come out. And if they're close enough to Ron, we're going together. Sure, Bruce. What else have I got here? Oh, Whopper 6.0. Oh, yes. That thing that I don't really understand. I still don't either. Other than it's something like, so this is going to be the new Whopper system for the rankings. that's going to start next year where it's, I think it's to combat Whopper Farms. So basically the more... But they created the Whopper Farms. So this is the problem with this. So the more tournaments you play in, the worse you are. It's weird. The more tournaments you play in where you finish in the middle of the pack, it will hurt you. So you're actually better off not playing. It's weird. My ranking will go from, I'm like 200-something in the world. I'm going to go to like 400-something with this new ranking system. How do you check that out? There was a spreadsheet somewhere. Yeah, I guess I'm going to suck and whopper 6.0. Oh, my. What else? I got one more note on here. Pulp Fiction stream. Yeah. So last week, Jack Danger on Deadflip streamed. Where does Jack Danger work? Stern. Okay. And what company is building this machine? Chicago Gaming. Okay, okay. I'm just making sure. Yeah, but on the stream they had Josh Sharpe, who's the brother of the Saks. Where does he work? Well, he works at Roth Rills. Exactly. What the hell's going on here, Bobby? It's like they all work in the same industry or something. What the hell? Did you see any of the stream? No. Maybe two minutes. I guarantee you they sold a ton off of the stream. 100%. It looked fantastic. David Thiel, you are the man. Sounded awesome. Looked awesome. This is the first chance I think people had to actually hear the game, because although it was at Texas, you couldn't hear a fucking thing. So your order's in, Ron? When are they going to build these things? That's the thing. Third quarter. Now, they're still trying to get the LEs done for Cactus Canyon. And they're really delayed. Yes, I'm thinking if you put an order in, don't expect it before like 2025 or 24. Maybe into 2025. No, I think your 40-inch slip actually was right. Was right? But yeah, I don't think you're seeing these in 2023. If you are, it's going to be the very tail end, in my opinion. Or they might sprinkle out a couple of LEs or a couple. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking about it. I was thinking about it. The thing is, the LE sold out, and I really wanted the topper. Because you know I love toppers, Bruce. When freaking R2-D2 fucking Star Wars toppers are selling for $4,000. Really? I need to take mine off of the game now and sell it. It's like, Jesus fucking Christ, really? Yeah, really. People love toppers, Bruce. Don't you love toppers? Factory ones? Yeah, they're great. Oh, God. It is from the factory. It's from the same factory that made the game, Bruce. What's the difference? No, no, no, no. If it came with it, it's good. Yeah, but you said factory. No, if you paid extra. Oh, okay. Not good. It came from the factory, so, you know, just saying. But it didn't come from the factory at the same time as the machine. Oh, semantics. I got you. You say potato. I say potato. Say potato. Okay. Are you ready for the ball bag, Bruce? I'm always ready for the ball bag. I'm sure you are. Got some good ones here. Oh, nice. Oh, this goes back to, I'll just read it. This is from Colin. Hi, Colin. Hi, Colin. It says, hey, guys. Wanted to chime in on your discussion about Patreons and pinball. Yay! In my opinion, and granted, I'm incredibly biased, given that I'm trying to grow a business in pinball. At this stage, the best way to grow pinball is to show that the ecosystem of pinball can produce economic value for those who want to participate in that way. podcasters should know they have a path towards making money streamers should know they have a path towards making money high quality tournament players and organizers should know they have a path toward making money lots of other examples apply here it doesn't need to be a lot of money but it should be stop i'm gonna we're gonna piece this through piece of my piece we're gonna piece this through my piece uh oh yeah oh you haven't done the italian thing uh yeah we're gonna go do that right now uh no but uh first people get upset about tournaments when that people try to take money even sometimes when they say what the percentages are taking do you agree with that so like i don't know what you're saying i think i know what you're trying to say what happened with buffalo pinball when they stated you're saying you're saying that people get pissed when the people actually run the tournaments take any money exactly like everything should go back to the players yes okay and he's saying it shouldn't be that way uh well he said high quality tournament players and organizers should know they have a path towards making money so i guess yeah what the organizers comment yeah okay and that's the first part second you don't always have to make money on certain things i never went to this making money idea of making money i know you didn't either money don't buy everything it's true but what it don't buy i can't use just give me money that's what i want that's what i want yeah that's what i want but yes so i just you know streaming you're never going to make money compared to these other guys streaming oh god no no you like if you're comparing streamers for video games compared to pinball That's a joke. Or even people – it's funny. I'm on Twitch once in a while, and I look, and there's like 5,500 people watching somebody talking. He says it right on his thing, just chatting. Yeah, that's one of the main categories, just chatting. And I'm like, he's got more people than any tournament, anything we've ever done. Well, except the 10K or whatever we had for InDisc. because he got on the front page. Yes, but I mean, just talking. Yeah. Bruce is there like, why do people not want to hear me talk? I don't know why you people want to hear me fucking talk. Oh, okay. Okay, to continue. It doesn't need to be a lot of money, but it should be something. Otherwise, the incentives don't line up, and everything stays in passionate hobby land, where what could be fun or innovative or useful community-growing work gets deprioritized for other activities that are more financially beneficial to the creator. Okay, so let's piece this one together. As we said with our last guest, he gave away all of his stuff for free. Is that not benefiting everyone in the community? I do understand what he's saying, though. I understand what he's saying, but I'm now doing the counterpoint side of it. I'll give you an argument. I'll give you an example. And I will counter-argument. Okay. Are you familiar with the OCD board is? Yes. Okay. For those who are not familiar with the OCD boards, they are basically, if you, I'll just use an example. You have your getaway, and you LED it out. It's going to flicker bad and look like shit. So the OCD boards, you basically hook them in the backbox, and you can use them for the GI and the controlled lights, where it will make them fade off and on, just like the incandescents did. So it looks good. I have them in several of my games. Now, these are available for Williams, Data East, but they're not available for Gottlieb because he hasn't gotten any requests for them. It doesn't make sense from a standpoint of production side of making these things if he can't make any money off of them. So he doesn't make them. You would need some kind of commitment for actually you want to pay for this to make these products. So they're never going to get made because no one wants anything for poor Gottlieb. But now that that's out there, maybe he will. But I guarantee you it won't because it will not be big enough. There will not be a big enough demand. Exactly. But there is a big enough demand for Williams and that kind of stuff because people just love the clown their fucking games out. Yeah. But if he didn't make any money off, he was just doing it for free. Probably wouldn't make any of them. Yeah. See, there's an argument there. There's a problem that it's actually making something and putting an investment in and making your money back. How much investment have you put in for podcasting? Twitch, I will say. Oh, Twitch? Yes. Cameras and that kind of stuff. The rig, the cameras. Yes, I totally agree with that stuff. You want to make your money back. I did buy an analog to digital interface thing here. Most of the other stuff I already had because of my music stuff, so I didn't actually have to buy anything. Yeah, but most people have to buy a little bit. But if you're trying to get in it just to make money, it's just like pinball on certain things, like building pinball and making pinball. Most people are going to fail. It's not a big moneymaker. So why even try unless you're somebody who's going to get an SLE? Well, so the very next sentence. So when Chris, the podcaster, moved behind the paywall, I thought it was fantastic because he was showing people a path towards more sustainable efforts. $3,000 a month is a salary for some people or at least a hell of a side hustle. So to have that as a known achievable milestone is invaluable for the community. But now we go to the counterpoint. now if you look at all the other people who are doing on that video that you just talked about before what was the next biggest group i know what it was i watched the same video what do you mean the next biggest group out of the three he has 600 600 oh you mean you mean that the podcast with the next biggest patreon yes uh it's the pinball show right i know it wasn't a pinball show no it wasn't it's got to be it was 49 people yeah they got more than that now pinball show well supposedly he said but yeah maybe they have now but i'm saying it's not that many it's not going to be a money maker it's not going to be like oh my god if you know these pinball people that's why you don't see so many people streaming on twitch because it costs so much money to put the initial investment in you don't think though for for like a patreon purpose just to you know we need a better microphone so we get a better microphone no you know what i do i buy a freaking microphone and i do it that way. All right, finishing this up. Free content has its place, of course, and it's certainly a noble effort to stay free if that's your choice. But don't think that being 100% free is necessarily better for pinball or shows that you're more or less passionate about pinball Love the show and have been listening for a long time Keep up the great work Colin Okay now Colin why is that Why is what His last comment his last paragraph What? Don't think that because we do it for free. That was an opinion. He was actually stating it like a fact. Don't think being 100% free is necessarily better for pinball or shows that you are more or less passionate about pinball. That was an opinion. He made it sound like it was a fact. He kind of. I agree with the passionate part. There are plenty of people who are super passionate who do get money. I agree. And that's their preference. And some people don't make money on it. And I kind of feel like if you did it this way, and if I look at it this way, like some of those people that they showed, he talked about the Patreons. Like I'm thinking these people probably have at least sometimes 12 to 1,500 people on. But their Patreons are only 29 or 12. And I'm like, that doesn't sound good. It really doesn't. So is your argument that it has to kick ass to be worth it? Yeah. Okay. And I'm saying we're not that. I don't want to be. I would feel guilty if I couldn't give 1,000% every freaking time. And some days I don't. Sometimes I'm like. Oh, like if you're getting paid, you'd feel guilty if you. Yeah, if I was sticking to money and run. If you were just yawning during the podcast. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that kind of thing. I want this to feel like you're talking to your buddies. You're sitting around a pinball hall or you're sitting at a show or a tournament. Like I used to love when we used to go to Pinburgh and sit around a table between rounds and just BS. That's what I consider this kind of podcast. There's a lot of BS here. There's a fucking ton of BS, but we have a good time about it. Speaking of that, we do need another Clusterfuck. Oh, God, no. Yes. I don't even know how we would do that now. I don't think this software can support it. I think it can hold up to 22 people. This can't. We'll figure it out. But yes. Maybe just do it live at a show. They'd be easier. But that's the way I look at it. And guess what? That's my opinion. And that's his opinion. And guess what? That's totally fine. I would like to know how many people he Patreons to. Oh, Colin? Yeah. You notice he didn't really bring that up. If he said like, hey, I donate to seven Patreons, and how many podcasts does he listen for free? The way I look at it is if he's not giving money to every person that's asking for a Patreon, but he's listening to their show, kind of the other way too. Kind of the other way too. It also depends because there's some of them that the Patreon, you don't really get anything. I know. You're just like supporting. Yeah. It's like I'd almost want like, can I get a shirt or something? I agree with that too. Or give me something, a sticker, anything. So if somebody's behind a paywall, do you feel like you're getting something for nothing, even though they're just blocked off? Wait a minute. How would I be getting something if they're behind a paywall? Exactly. That's what I'm saying. You're paying now $5 a month for their thing. Yeah. Then you actually get to listen to it. You're getting to listen to this. Yes. But with us, you're not paying that $5, but you still get to listen to us. Yeah. To be fair, Chris the podcaster does post frequently. Oh, he does. So it's not like he's just doing once a month. No, he doesn't. There's a lot of content. And he has to release at least seven podcasts free to be involved with the Twippies. Oh. Yes. Oh, how does that? Yeah. How does that work then? I know. Exactly. The rules are broken for fucking Twippy. Was he like free at the beginning of the year? No, he does seven shows in between the whole year. Oh. And he releases a free one. I gotcha. Yeah. Okay. let's see the next email we have is from glenn hi glenn hey glenn fuck yeah he's as a correction the dildo missile thing as pinball podcasters i expect more you should know that a dildo is a static sex toy and a vibrator is a sex toy that simulates v-hat vibration clearly it should be called the vibrator missile thing and james bond i assume he's talking about your comment of that That is all ha-ha-ha. Well, I have a problem with that. Has he actually tried the toy and does it vibrate in the way he expects it to? See, I think of it more of it's a dildo on a spring. Yes. Dildo on a spring. There you go. Is that better? I don't know if it vibrates. That made it silly. Oh, let's see. What do we got here? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. We got one from Pinball Profile. Uh-oh. The subject, ball bag. oh boy dear hosts of equal value oh they must be talking to me too now obviously from jeff tiola's here it says thanks jeff thanks for the plug for the beast yes the beast coming up he puts right after august four through six at pocket your billiards looking forward to seeing and hugging both of you at allentown fuck yeah oh he's gonna be in Allentown? He's coming to Allentown. We've got a lot of people coming. You get to see Raymond Davidson. As the pinball princess recently pointed out, you are both co-hosts or both hosts. My issue was when Ron would correct Bruce by saying, I'm the host, you're the co-host. What? Was that an arrogant Gene Simmons impression I missed? Equal. Same. It's what makes the show a perfect balance. Never missed an episode of you two equal hosts. Keep it up. Love Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. Hello, I'm Gene Simmons of KISS. Me and Paul Stanley are equal. Then there's the other two guys. The other two tools. Whoever we hire to be the other two characters. I think they're still on their last tour. Yes, they're touring now. Like, what the fuck? Oh, man, it's so weird. All right, we got this. They're in the Netherlands. They're in Europe, too. Let's see. Oh, we got one from our Scott. We have not. I can't wait to see Scott next week. That's going to be a good thing. This is from our Scott. This is regarding the cheetah. The weird cheetah issues we've been talking about with the cheetah at RBC. Let's see. He thinks likely any oddities introduced are because of the sound engine, which from what I'm seeing, it's a Bill Futsenreuter game. So, of course, he didn't use the sound engine as is from the earlier games. See, odd things happen when the sounds move around. So, Zach, whatever changes you made, try remake them without moving the sound data. I'm working on the sound engine right now to try to document the changes so I can make the source truly relocatable. Really odd error. You are all, yeah, you were describing about the reset. It's very weird. It really is. So, here we go. Do you want to see Kiss one last time? God, no. I've never seen Kiss. You can see him at MSG, Mad Square Garden. We got out of our wheelchairs tour. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. 16th middle row. How much do you think a ticket is for 16th middle row? What do you mean 16th? Do you mean like 16 rows back? 16 rows back. So that's pretty close. How much do you think for those tickets? $500. $1,100. Do I get my autograph session with Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley or no? Okay. How about front row middle? Front row, middle. How much do you think? One ticket for front row middle. $5,000. $11,072 each ticket. It is New York City, but God damn. Each ticket. That's right. I think we're underpriced, Bruce. Let's see what comes with that ticket besides hopefully a blowjob. Yes. Yes. No, you get a big deuce on your face. That's what happens. They call the deuce. That's right, Bruce. Get the firehouse. Yep, so you can get a front row seat for $11,076. Yeah. No. And we're going to end it big here. Big. Money shot. Here we come. We have an email from Zane. Hi, Zane. Hi, Zane. This is Subject Line. I'm back to the future. Oh, my God. So here we go. Ron and Bruce. Well, I finally made it. Six months and 204 episodes later. Wow. I emerged from the fever dream that is the Slam Tilt Podcast. I have to say it's been an entertaining ride going through every episode. I do want to congratulate you both on making it over 200 episodes. 204 as the writing of this email. Seven years of podcasting is quite an impressive feat. Now, in retrospect, I can say I do have my favorite bits you do in the show. On a scale of fuck yeah, taking homage to Glenn's song, I rate the following with a solid fuck yeah. Tech talk, repairs, games you like, games you hate, and clusterfuck guests. Some interesting observations is the growth of your friends on the show. Tim, Raymond, Steve all have jobs in the industry. You're welcome. Yes. Zach is a solid co-host. Steph went from owning her first game, Sea Witch, to owning four games and babysitting a fifth. I don't know another podcast who has had more celebrities on the show. Naming just a few, Gene Simmons, Stewie Griffin. That's right. I've been on the show many times. George Takei. And not to forget the world-famous rock fantasy owner, Stephen Keeler. Yeah! I don't know, kids. My kids. What the fuck? Who I actually did buy a Fireball 2 from back in May of 2019. That's where it went. So, Zane, do you still have that? I remember that. I played that there. Yeah, I sold it to him really cheap, and I wish I never sold it. Fireball 2. Well, I wish they – do they still have Fireball Classic there? I'm trying to remember. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so either. God damn it, I love Fireball Classic. I'm a sick person. Yes, you are. And keeping with the theme of pinball royalty, as guests, you have had some of the best in the likes of Lyman and Keith. Truly, you have created a repository and a suppository of entertainment for the betterment of all pinheads. Fucking awesome. I honor the suppository. Also, if you ever thought that your shit-taking is a detriment to keeping listeners – oh, shit-talking. Shit-taking. Oh, that would be disgusting. I don't want to take anybody's – I don't want to take anybody's – I'll try that again. I don't want to take anyone's seconds at all. Also, if you ever thought that your shit talking is a detriment to keeping listeners, have no fear, for I'm pretty sure that of my small pin collection, over half have been the subject of your ire and ridicule. Well, let's see. I have Iron Maiden Premium. Awesome. Godzilla Premium. Awesome. Heavy Metal LE. I've never played a working one, so I can't tell you. The Hobbit. The Big Lebowski. again have never played a working one. Making an argument for heavy metal, Ron, you said you like the layout of Star Wars Home Pin. I do. Well, this is it with an adjusted rule set. Commercial grade cabinet, amazing cabinet side art with a kick ass set of rock songs for the soundtrack. Might be the best music pin Stern has made. And seeing how only 100 of the original 300 were made, plus buying new in box for under $7,000 seems to me a good purchase. Oddly enough, There have been two of them on location here. I've included the song list at the bottom of this email for reference. Here is an easy quiz. Name the stern pins that have Blue Oyster Cult in the soundtrack. I guess that would be Godzilla and Heavy Metal. Heavy Metal. Some final thoughts. The show is great, and I look forward to the next release of the podcast. Thank you. Also, Starship Troopers is a game I like. See? While South Park is simply ass. What the hell, guys? Fuck you. It's for you guys. I'm going to have the same bit. That's right, Kenny. I love our fans. I love our followers. Still, your best impersonation is the Space Ice Guy. Yes. No, no, best is definitely Keeler. Everyone knows Keeler. Oh, God. Everybody knows the Keeler. Sending my best regards from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Zane, player 83001. And here's the song list from Heavy Metal. Let's see. Veteran of the Psychic Wars by Blue Oyster Cult. Taking a Ride by Sound Switch. World of Fantasy by Halloween. Cosmic Power of the Infinite Shred Machine. I like that title. Dragon Force. Heavy Metal by Justice. Midnight Flyer. The Night Flight Orchestra. I Might Be Dreamin'. by Cheap Trick. Heavy Metal, Sebastian Bach featuring Brendon Small. At the Edge of Time, Blind Guardian, Space Police, Ed Guy, Sky Is Mine, Amorpheus, and Light Years From Home, Primal Fear. And then Against the Ninja by Dragon Sound. I'm just kidding. That's not in there. Someone will get that. Against the Ninja. I just thought that was a cool name for a band though dragon sound dragon sound let's see uh that's it that's it that's the ball bag the ball bag is empty yes so anything else bruce uh don't forget to donate if you'd like to donate it's wizard underscore mode at yahoo.com it's going all of it we're not keeping any of this shit. Every drop. Every drop of our goodness and your goodness going to us is going to charity. So, it'll be in Lyman's name. And just put that on the Facebook page, too. Yeah, I will. I'm going to do that in a few minutes. I'm going to do that when you release. I'm going to put the, right when you put it out for release. If you like us, you want to donate, it's all going to go to a good cause. It's not going to us. If I had Ron Hallett's money, I'd burn my own. Of course. And if you really like us, come down to Stomp. Yes, come down to Stomp. Say hi to us at the show. Now, here's the funny thing. When you go to the show on Friday. Allentown. At Allentown, you will see me. I will be the geek with the little gray beard selling you the ticket. Yep. I will be selling tickets that Friday. You're going to wear a shirt that said, yes, I am Bruce from the Slamtail Podcast. No, no, I'm going to use the Steph shirt. I'm going to try to get that Steph shirt, the one that she posted a couple weeks ago. Oh, the really offensive one? Yes. No, I'll probably wear it that day. I'll probably wear my pinball. I have a pinball back glass one of a Hawaiian shirt. Mm-hmm. But I do want to get that shirt that Steph posted. I'm not going to tell you what it is. Yeah, it will be a great secret. I might get one for Stomp. How's that? Uh-huh. because they have an asshole and a dickhead. Maybe for a stop, I will wear my actual slam-tilt shirt. You can't. The one-of-a-kind shirt. You can't. What do you mean I can't? You can't. Nobody will see it. Nobody will see it. As long as you don't have the air conditioning way up. Excuse me. Who is one of the owners of the Rochester Pinball Collective? What, Zach, who wants it at 60 degrees at all times? Yes. Maybe I'll just grin and bear it, as I won't be able to feel my fingers at all. Yes, you won't. And you're going to get your shirt. We're going to give it to you on the day of the stomp. My shirt? Yep. What shirt? The one that was donated. The dialed-in shirt. Oh, yes, yes. There's a dialed-in shirt. There's a dialed-in large. Oh, you know what? I can wear the dialed-in and then wear my other shirt over it, so I won't be as cold. There you go. Perfect. Perfecto. Let's see. I think we've covered everything. Have we? I think we have. Okay. So we are the Slam Tilt Podcast. This has been episode 205. If you want to write to us, correspond with us, you can send emails to slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. That's slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Check out our website at www.slamtiltpodcast.com. Thanks to everyone in the Cluster Vuck. Cluster Vuck. Everyone, hi, Zach. Hi, Zach. Hi, Steve. Hi, everybody. See you at Allentown. Yes. Don't forget, say hi to us, please. Say hi. Tell us we're assholes. Hug Bruce. Well, tell Bruce he's an asshole. I try to be a nicer guy, you know. I'm the good cop. You're the bad cop. I'm the bad cop. You're the bad cop. Yes. I love it. Let's all try to have fun in Allentown. Yes. Enjoy the games. Oh, no fart bombs. Oh, they had the sewage leak or something last time. Yeah, they had a sewage leak last year. Oh, God. And it's supposed to rain like cats and dogs again. Oh, that one row was just. Oh, it was bad. It was bad. Yes, please shower and don't fart. And deodorize yourself, please. Deodorize yourself, please. Yes, please. Please. And there's a farmer's market across the street. There is a farmer's market across the street. Best food. I mean, all kinds of stuff I can't eat anymore, but it was cool when I could eat it. There's like several pastry places. There's the obvious. It's just got big fucking cakes there. The pretzels. The candy shop in the back is my favorite, too. I always get. Just don't get the pizza. It's right up front. It sucks. It has always been terrible. I don't understand. Everything in there is great except that pizza. It's terrible. The pizza is terrible. All right. See, we do agree on pizza. I wonder if Zach likes that pizza. No, who could like that pizza? Zach likes weird pizza. Zach likes a lot of weird shit. I know. And he hates everything that people like. He's so weird. And Zach will be there, too. Oh, yeah, Zach. So you can see all three of us. The world-famous Zach from the Slamtail Podcast. I think that's his official title, Zach from the Slamtail Podcast. Not that he's actually made games. See the man, the myth, the legend. And if you have an EM that needs repairing, maybe you can get him over to look at it. Yes. He'll hate me for saying that, probably. Yeah, I know. We'll be probably working on the tournament games ourselves, me and Zach. Oh, yes. Because we usually always do. Hopefully my games don't break down. I'm hoping for fun, and everyone enjoy it. Don't beat up on my poor dragon fist. The fist. Everyone loves the fist. Everyone loves the fist. Everyone loves the fist. Okay. Okay, thanks, everybody. Until next time, say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Emily Anderson. We'll be right back. Meteor Level Zero Clusterfuck George Takei Timballs Bruce Sissons Tournament Talk Carholer Cheetah Xanadu Cash Grab ELO Ball Bank What You Buying Game You Love Game You Hate Tournament Talk Pinball Princess Sir Oh my Oh my Oh my Oh my Oh my I'm hoping for fun and everyone enjoy it. Don't beat up on my poor dragon fist. The fist. Everyone loves the fist. Everyone loves the fist. Everyone loves the fist. Okay. Until next time. Bye-bye, everybody. Good. No, you fucked me all up. Do it again. You never say that. She probably doesn't listen to us, so you're just being a dick. There you go.