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Kaneda's Pinball Podcast Saturday Morning Spectacular June 13

Kaneda Pinball Podcasts YouTube Lives·video·analyzed·Jun 13, 2026
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TL;DR

Kaneda critiques Stern's communication failures, accuses content creators of shilling, reports designer reassignments, and leaks Spooky's upcoming game pipeline.

Summary

Kaneda discusses Stern Pinball operational and communication challenges, including weak Transformers sales, delayed Pokemon code updates held up by licensor approval, and upcoming Jersey Jersey Jack Pinball release. He criticizes private equity's impact on Stern, calls out content creators (Loser Kid/Flip N Out) for offering unauthorized $500 discounts on unreleased Tales of the Arabian Nights, and speculates on designer shuffles (John Borg moved to AC/DC remake, Keith Elwin potentially designing Ozzy Osbourne and Star Trek). He also previews Spooky's upcoming pipeline including Gremlins, Goonies, and South Park.

Key Claims

  • Transformers (LE) sales are 'abysmal' and available everywhere; no second-life sales recovery window exists

    medium confidence · Kaneda, speaking to chat participant Dwayne; based on his conversations with industry insiders

  • Pokemon code release was planned for the previous week but is held up by the licensor, not Stern sandbagging

    medium confidence · Kaneda states he is 'talking to people involved with the project'; cites licensor approval delay

  • John Borg was moved off Ozzy Osbourne onto AC/DC remake; Keith Elwin might design Ozzy, Star Trek, and Fallout

    low confidence · Kaneda; states 'I heard' and 'might be doing'; speculative attribution based on unconfirmed sources

  • Ozzy Osbourne pinball is being delayed due to Sharon Osbourne indictment and oversaturation of partnerships on Ozzy's name

    low confidence · Kaneda's speculation; cites Sharon getting indicted for capitalizing on his death too soon

  • Loser Kid Pinball Podcast and Flip N Out Pinball offered $500 discount on unreleased Tales of the Arabian Nights, creating conflict of interest

    high confidence · Kaneda witnessed the promotion live and criticizes both Loser Kid and Zach (Flip N Out owner) for integrity violation

  • Stern's private equity ownership has degraded company culture, morale, and decision-making quality since buyout

    medium confidence · Kaneda cites conversations with 'people over at Stern' who report unhappiness; compares to other companies ruined by PE

  • Jersey Jersey Jack Pinball release date is 7-23-26 with minimal promotion; Kaneda wished for more teaser content

    high confidence · Kaneda states release date and criticizes lack of marketing lead time for watch parties

  • Spooky's next three games will be Gremlins, Goonies, and South Park, with possible Motorhead side project

    medium confidence · Kaneda; describes South Park as '2-3 years away' and predicts instant sellouts

Notable Quotes

  • “Transformers sales are abysmal. They're everywhere, man. You can find them everywhere.”

    Kaneda@ 4:32 — Key assertion about Transformers commercial failure, central to critique of Stern's release strategy

  • “You have a one week window to get thousands of sales. And if people balk, it's over on that game's sales.”

    Kaneda@ 4:52 — Articulates the high-stakes launch window that Stern is reportedly missing

  • “I'm all for you guys betting each other on the chat and then having to pay me... but if you don't want to be called a shill, just don't shill. It's that simple.”

    Kaneda@ 10:54 — Direct criticism of Loser Kid/Flip N Out discount tactics; defines shill behavior

  • “Gary's big mistake was private equity. It's the biggest mistake he ever made. Bringing in the private equity money and Gary losing control of the company to private equity is why Stern is operating the way they are operating today.”

    Kaneda@ 24:33 — Core theory about Stern's organizational dysfunction; acknowledges Gary Stern's historical importance while critiquing current model

  • “If your goal is to sell a million albums, you're not going to write great music. If you just write songs that are amazing from the heart and don't care about sales, then you'll sell a million albums.”

    Kaneda@ 27:56 — Philosophical articulation of the money-vs-culture tension he sees at Stern

  • “Everyone who bought a Pokemon should have a weekly update on where they're at with it. I don't understand... You've got thousands of people dissatisfied.”

Entities

Stern PinballcompanyJersey Jack PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyLoser Kid Pinball PodcastorganizationFlip N Out PinballcompanyKanedapersonGary Sternperson

Signals

  • ?

    product_concern: Transformers LE experiencing reported abysmal sales with machines widely available in secondary market; Kaneda attributes to incomplete game release and close proximity to Pokemon launch

    medium · Kaneda: 'Transformers sales are not bad. They're abysmal... Everyone's got one. Transformers sales are abysmal is what I'm hearing.'

  • ?

    code_update: Pokemon Pinball code rollout delayed due to licensor approval bottleneck, not Stern's choice; massive update expected when released

    medium · Kaneda: 'The plan was to release Pokemon code this past week... It's held up with a licensor. I believe that. When the dam does break on the Pokemon code, it's going to be a massive code update.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: John Borg reportedly moved from Ozzy Osbourne to AC/DC remake; Keith Elwin rumored to design Ozzy, Star Trek, and Fallout

    low · Kaneda: 'They moved John Borg off of Ozzy Osbourne onto ACDC Remake... I heard Elwin might be doing Ozzy Osbourne... Elwin will be doing Ozzy and Star Trek and Fallout.'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Ozzy Osbourne pinball delayed due to Sharon Osbourne indictment and product oversaturation in her Ozzy licensing deals

    low · Kaneda: 'Sharon is getting indicted for capitalizing on his death so soon and is like oversaturating with partnerships and product. So that's why I think Aussie is just got a little bit delayed.'

  • ?

    community_signal: Loser Kid Pinball Podcast and Flip N Out Pinball criticized for offering $500 unauthorized discount on unreleased Tales of the Arabian Nights; Kaneda calls it shilling and conflict of interest

Transcript

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0:00
All right, man, how to reboot this computer. How's everybody doing? We're gonna have a great show today. I know we're starting a little late.
0:12
Come on, what's going on with everything today? All the technology is all funky now. Why can't I get out of this?
0:21
I swear to God. Technology. What's up, Kaz? What's up? What's up, everybody? Jeremy, let's get in the house people. I'm going to get Facebook going in a second. Hold on. I really, I'm a little hungover, I gotta be honest. We had a big party last night on a boat. I missed the match. We went on a boat and I'm like, we're gonna talk about that Toten deal. I'm just like, I mean, look, it's, we'll wait a little bit, but, you know, it's, it's not, it's not a good look, but we'll talk about it. Um, SMS, here we go. I don't even know why I do Facebook, to be honest. It's just annoying. Let's move this baby over.
1:39
Got my coffee. Got my US t-shirt drying out. Got a little wet last night. Oh, what did I do here? There we go.
1:59

  • Sonic leaks exist; Gary Hardy's gameplay video was underwhelming in building hype

    high confidence · Kaneda's direct observation of available Sonic coverage

  • Pokémon (Premium/LE) machines will drop in value from $13k to ~$10k due to weak code rollout, repeating the 'wait and see' lesson

    low confidence · Kaneda's prediction based on historical secondary market patterns

    • Kaneda@ 36:18 — Core complaint about Stern's communication transparency failure

  • “Pokemon is the fastest selling game they've ever released. What are the numbers? Nobody knows... How can something be the fastest when you don't even know what the speed is?”

    Kaneda@ 29:28 — Skepticism of unverified Stern marketing claims; critiques absence of industry sales transparency

  • “Unfortunately, the problem is that everyone's Pokemons are going to tank in value by the time the code gets great... I should have just waited.”

    Kaneda@ 42:41 — Predicts secondary market depreciation; reflects on repeated cycle of early buyers getting punished

  • “Spooky's not going to have any issues selling Gremlins, Goonies and South Park... they're all going to be instant sellouts and it's just going to be a bloodbath to get one.”

    Kaneda@ 44:23 — Confident forecast of Spooky's upcoming pipeline strength vs. Stern's struggles

  • “I hope Stern has sellouts. I want Stern to have games that are hard to get. I want, like, that means the game's good. I'm not rooting against Stern. What I'm disappointed in is the lack of communication.”

    Kaneda@ 31:01 — Clarifies his critique is not anti-Stern but pro-transparency and community respect

    • Keith Elwin
    person
    John Borgperson
    Steve Ritchieperson
    Cary Hardyperson
    Zach Menyperson
    Pokemon Pinballgame
    Transformersgame
    Sonic the Hedgehoggame
    [name withheld pending review]game
    [name withheld pending review]game
    Tales of the Arabian Nightsgame
    [name withheld pending review]game
    [name withheld pending review]game
    South Parkgame
    [name withheld pending review]game
    Guns N' Rosesgame
    Elton Johngame

    high · Kaneda: 'How is that not a complete conflict of interest? Zach should be ashamed. Just stop this... it's sleazy marketing, bro... Why do you think they pulled it down? Because they know this is a bad look for everybody.'

  • ?

    industry_signal: Private equity ownership of Stern has degraded company culture, employee morale, and operational decision-making; prioritizes growth over quality and community trust

    medium · Kaneda: 'Gary's big mistake was private equity... Gary losing control of the company to private equity is why Stern is operating the way they are operating today. Private equity only cares about growth over culture.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Stern providing minimal transparency to Pokemon buyers about code update status, timeline, or development roadmap; community dissatisfaction mounting

    high · Kaneda: 'Everyone who bought a Pokemon should have a weekly update on where they're at with it... You're making a Pokemon game and you can't communicate to your buyers, like, what your intent is with the game.'

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    market_signal: Pokemon Pinball LE expected to depreciate from ~$13k to ~$10k due to delayed code updates, repeating pattern of early buyers being punished

    medium · Kaneda: 'I think the game slides down to 10 now... Everyone's Pokemons are going to tank in value by the time the code gets great... I should have just waited.'

  • ?

    product_launch: Jersey Jack Sonic the Hedgehog release (7-23-26) with minimal promotional content, no leaks, and underwhelming early gameplay videos; Kaneda criticizes lack of hype building

    high · Kaneda: 'It's June. We're getting Sonic in 10 days... I would have liked a little bit more stuff to chew on... There's no Sonic leaks. There's no Sonic.'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Spooky Pinball's next three titles (Gremlins, Goonies, South Park) positioned as instant sellouts with strong IP appeal; South Park 2-3 years away; possible Motorhead side project

    medium · Kaneda: 'Spooky's not going to have any issues selling Gremlins, Goonies and South Park... they're all going to be instant sellouts and it's just going to be a bloodbath to get one.'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Kaneda expresses skepticism of Stern's unverified claim that Pokemon is 'fastest selling game ever'; cites lack of published sales numbers as making claim meaningless

    high · Kaneda: 'Pokemon is the fastest selling game they've ever released. What are the numbers? Nobody knows... How can something be the fastest when you don't even know what the speed is?'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Spooky emerging as stronger operational alternative to Stern due to Stern's PE-driven inefficiencies; sustainable business model and better community trust

    medium · Kaneda contrasts Spooky's 1000-unit sustainable model and slow-burn sales approach vs. Stern's panic-driven 'one week window' strategy

    • Beautiful, beautiful day here in Rwaden. How's everybody doing? We got my Pikachu on. Yeah, I talked to, um, I did talk to George Gomez. No, not to Gomez. I talked to someone over at Stern yesterday. I'm just like, where's the code? Where's the code? And they don't even know, man. There's like no, there's no line of sight into when we're getting the next Pokemon code. I don't know what's the hold up. What up guys, who we got in the house here? We got everybody in? No, we got half of who's going to join.
    2:49
    I have a lot of feelings about Stern Pinball we're going to discuss today. I didn't even do a show yesterday. I'll do another one Monday. We all know what's coming. Sonic's coming any second. Thank you for the $5 Speed Racer. I appreciate it, brother. We're going to get Ozzy in the house.
    3:15
    Why does Stern just delay games so they can be released with more? You know, Kaz, it's a good question.
    3:22
    It's a really good question. This isn't working anymore for people. The sales are abysmal. And when you have abysmal sales, you know, you have to start changing your approach. And I'm almost proud of the pinball buying community for not rushing at Transformers. And they've spoke, people have spoken with their wallets and there's no sales happening around the game. And now the sales are going to, now that the sales have plummet, the next thing that happens is the price of these games is going to plummet. And, you know, Stern doesn't have an answer.
    4:01
    And, you know, how many times can they keep burning people with incomplete games? You know, look, they also served up Transformers way too close to Pokemon. And that made everybody like, I just bought this, bro. And it doesn't even work properly. And now, you know, Optimus doesn't even work properly. And you're going to hand people two very expensive pinball machines that don't really work properly. And, you know, this is what you get. You get apathy. You get indifference and you get hesitation to buy.
    4:30
    Transformers LE is absolutely still available, bro. Dwayne, they're everywhere, man. You can find them everywhere. Everyone's got one.
    4:39
    Transformers sales are not bad. They're abysmal is what I'm hearing. Abysmal. And the thing about when you have abysmal sales right away, they don't come back. There's no second life. There's no like, wait, I saw someone say like, wait, are people playing? No, it doesn't work like that. It don't work like that. You have a one week window to get thousands of sales. And if people balk, it's over on that game's sales. Like, is it that I mean, I'm talking Stern here. It's different if you're spooking. You only have to make a thousand evil deads. Then you can slow burn them, because remember, like Spooky only needs to sell a thousand games in a year and they have a year to do it. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, they're not going to get to the later games until the end of the build cycle. So they're not in a panic.
    5:36
    Halo will be amazing. No, Robbie, come on. Come on. Nobody wants Halo Pinball. Like, like, can we be real here? I mean, I'm a little hungover, but like, let's be real here. Nobody wants Halo Pinball.
    5:50
    I'm going to go back to the shade. Hold on. The sun. I'm in and out of the sun. Hold on. Hydrating. Living the life here in Rowena, Connecticut. It is beautiful. I got like, let me move my.
    6:10
    USA baby, USA. 4-1 baby. That's how you show up in the World Cup when you're, I mean, I don't know why we weren't. The opening ceremony should have been in America and it should have been done right. Nobody watched it. It was like 3 o'clock in Mexico City. It was the stupidest opening ceremony.
    6:45
    I feel like the World Cup started yesterday. Alright, this is better. This is way better. How are you guys doing? First and foremost, I want to thank all of my subscribers. I've had a bunch of people sign up recently at the $30 Omokase club price, which means when we hang out, I take you to Omokase. It's going to be awesome. I really do appreciate it. There's a lot of good energy in the Kaneda Club. And if you're not a member of the Kaneda Club and you're tuning in and enjoying this show, I highly recommend you join. You're going to get a lot of really, really great content. And you know what makes the content great is each and every one of you. So, Kaneda is always a bandwagon fan. Always, baby. Always.
    7:31
    Maybe I'll do Transformers mod to help Stern make sales. Man, do you think you can do it, man? It will be a soccer jersey so we can keep fouling him on the chins till he breaks.
    7:47
    I mean, look. Lisa just asked if the ACDC rumor is true. It is. So here's what happened. I can play the clip where I think it was one of the Ozzy's kids interviewed and asked about how's the pinball machine coming along. And the guy's like, how do you know that? You must know somebody. So Ozzy Osbourne pinball is happening. What happened was this, is they moved John Borg off of Ozzy Osbourne onto ACDC Remake or the new one. And what I heard is that Elwin might be doing Ozzy Osbourne.
    8:28
    So this is like kind of crazy, right? But I heard Elwin, you know, Elwin did Iron Maiden. I think Elwin might be doing Ozzy's Pin. So Elwin will be doing Ozzy and Star Trek and Fallout.
    8:42
    So, yeah. There's a little bit of like they're not there. I think they they're slowing down a little bit like the Aussie stuff right now because Sharon is getting indicted for capitalizing on his death so soon and is like oversaturating with partnerships and product. So that's why I think Aussie is just got a little bit delayed. It's like, well, let's just wait a little bit and then hit with it. You asked him that, Matt? Matthew? That's funny, man.
    9:29
    Look, it's June. We're getting Sonic in 10 days. Isn't it crazy? I do think that the Jersy Jack, I would have liked a little bit more stuff to chew on the last week or so. You know, like you got Transformers, sales are abysmal. Nobody's got anything popping right now in pinball. Like we know it's Sonic the Hedgehog. Like just give us a little bit more. I'm just a little like annoyed that – I'm just disappointed. Like, it's just, you know, this week what they're going to do is just have the 7, you know, 7-23-26, you know, the release date. Probably not even with the time. And I just wish people could have ample time to plan watch parties, reveal parties.
    10:22
    You know, are they mailing out a bunch of Sonics to locations so on day one everyone can go play it at a local arcade? I don't know.
    10:34
    Ain't that the truth, Mike, about summer vacations, man? Thank you, Speed Racer. Okay, so I owe Fizzy. I lost a bet. Still can't believe Brictimus isn't being used as Toptimus.
    10:54
    Look, I'm all for you guys betting each other on the chat and then having to pay me. It's like, go for it.
    11:04
    Oh, man. I will say, let's, let's, do we want to talk about real quick? I mean, look, I said I wasn't going to bring up, put the shills on blast, but I just want to say that this Tales of the Arabian Nights is not even out yet. Let me just give you guys the rundown here. And this is probably what they want. We're giving them attention. They're going to get awareness for this, but I also think it's the bad kind of awareness. So I think it's pathetic that you can get $500 off a game from a content creator. How is that not a complete conflict of interest?
    11:54
    Loser Kid Pinball Podcasts and Flippin' Out, which we know they do their ads for Flippin' Out. Everyone should be ashamed. They should be ashamed. Zach should be ashamed. Just stop this. Because here's the thing.
    12:08
    Do you need to win at all costs with no integrity whatsoever? You're a content creator. Why are you giving a $500 discount off a game that's A, not even out yet, B, they haven't even, they retracted it? When? It's too late to retract it. You can't now put the cat back in the bag. It's out. You know what I'm saying? It just goes to show you what's in the hearts of these men. It's like, what are you thinking? Like, what are you thinking?
    12:42
    You literally are going to give, like, A, the price is not even established. The game's already on sale.
    12:51
    And now we're like, okay, so look, if they retracted it, fine. But it's to me, it's like you see what's in the hearts of these men. And it's it's it's pathetic on every level. Like the fact that they went live with that shows that they thought that that was like because they're getting kickbacks and they don't want to admit it. And they're getting kickbacks and they're they're like gaming the system and they're trying to, you know, be that's a sleazy move for all the other dealers and distros that are trying to sell this game at the price they're supposed to sell it at. And it also just, I mean, regardless of like Loserkin and Zack, it's just, it also makes me think the game sucks if you're putting it on sale right away. Because guess what? No great game needs to go on sale right away. So even Pedretti should be ashamed that they're doing that because right away that's a red flag that this game is not going to be good. It's going to be another piece of trash like Funhaus was. So, again, common sense, people. Common sense is what they really, really did not have a lot of it.
    13:56
    Because, like, it's like it's sleazy marketing, bro. Like, it's not even like they all should. They all look because why do you think they pulled it down? Because they know like this is this is a bad look for everybody.
    14:14
    Yeah, the Kaneda code will save you thousands every time because it'll make you wait and see, right? If you put Kaneda Pinball into the checkout, it'll prevent you from buying the game for six months and you'll save $5,000.
    14:31
    That's where we're at. All right, so let's move past that. They've taken it down. I mean, I guess I could probably remove it, but I don't know.
    14:46
    It was very interesting to see that. Why weren't you waiting to see on Sonic yesterday? I didn't. Did I say bye bye bye? No, I don't. There's no urgency to buy Sonic right away. They'll make as many CEs as people order. Thank you for watching. Jersy Jack, you know, all they need to do is like settle down a little bit. You know, my advice for Jersy Jack is just settle down. Like, don't let Keith go overboard with the code and you're going to be just fine on this game. And I think they're learning that lesson. You know, it's ironic, right? It's like we get too much code from Jersy Jack and not enough from Stern. So the plan was to release Pokemon code this past week. Like, it's, again, I am talking to people involved with the project.
    16:07
    It's held up with a licensor. Like, I believe that. I don't think they're sandbagging this game. I don't think that, what I do know is this, is when the dam does break on the Pokemon code, it's going to be a massive code update.
    16:26
    I'll never play pinball again. Thank you. They'll take care of you. I'll take care of you. I'm not going to show the game. I'm not going to give you a discount. I'll get you the game now.
    17:12
    Still cheaper than RSF lunch, which I still owe you, Mike. Yeah, Roy didn't see food. So I was there on the boat last night. Mike, I missed the whole soccer match because my friends got a boat charter company and we went out. I don't know. I didn't want to go out on the boat. Look, it was awesome, though. Like his boat was sick. Like it was like we were like a floating nightclub. Like, have you ever been on a boat with a good sound system? I was like, holy crap. Like this is this is next level fun.
    17:42
    But my my issue with boats is always the same. I you can't get off them when you want to. And then like we ended up like parking it somewhere and like I think we were like in Stanford or something. And like I'm like, where are we? I thought we were going back to where we started. We didn't. And then I'm like Ubering at home, like three sheets to the wind, kind of drunk and ordering McDonald's, like not how I want it the night then. And I missed the whole soccer match. There we go. Chance Hammer. Fifty bucks, baby. You guys have been really great on cause with the with the donations. OK, on the eve of Sonic, let's look back at Richie's last release, Elton John. Can you look back at JJP last promotion and marketing campaign with Elton John? How good was the marketing and promo video? The one with the blonde compared to Stern. Okay, so here's the thing. Okay, so Elton John, you know, they had the blonde playing the game and, you know, they, Jersie Jax had some of those rough sort of videos that like it worked the best. Let's go back a little bit. So the best ever pinball marketing material ever, right? The best. It's not Ralph's stuff. It's not Zach Manny's stuff. The best piece of pinball content ever that sold the most games and the actual content was the greatest was the super hot chick walking up to Guns N' Roses and seeing that game. That was the best ever. Like Guns N' Roses marketing, easily the greatest video, the sexiest launch of a game in the right way. It made everybody fall in love with the game. Like you literally got 5,000 orders for Guns N' Roses on that video. Then it got kind of corny when, you know, they were like Toy Story 4 and it was like the family like, yeah, like pinball, like it was bad, right? And then Elton John, similarly, you know, it didn't do anything like really special. Like I just think the thing with Elton is we didn really want it And then when we got confirmation it was Elton it didn land well Harry Potter they did the featurette Harry Potter's marketing has been really good. It's Potter. It's Potter overload. So I think in general, Jersey Jacks always launch their games with more effort, better videos, better attention to detail, and are more thorough. Stern's launches are kind of lame, and they're always the same, and they don't try anything different. And Pete Rosen is in the effing house with a bottle of sake for Brenda. Pete, you're the best, brother. I miss you. Frank, look at Frank. Look at this guy. You guys are like hitting me hard today with all this. You're going to get Brenda so drunk I might get lucky tonight. Frank, thank you so much. No sponsorship money. This is for your boys. Buy them something nice. Thank you, Uncle Frank. I appreciate it, brother. You guys are the best, by the way. This is what really burns the other content creators. They watch this. They're like, wait a minute. Like, he's got this many subscribers. They keep throwing money at him. He's toxic. He's not good for the hobby. He just called us shills for giving $500 off a totem.
    21:12
    You know, look, if you don't want to be called a shill, just don't shill. It's that simple. This is how we do it. Look at Ozzy. Ozzy, I knew you were going to come in here.
    21:20
    Guys, look, we got 300 bucks right here. This is great. This makes up for the money I lost betting on Canada yesterday to win the World Cup. You know what it is? I feel like you guys sometimes do support my bad behaviors, but I love it, and you keep me going. You guys will laugh. When at work, when I tell people, I'm always very transparent and candid with everybody.
    21:47
    When I hear people who haven't had a raise in four years, and they're like, I'm going to ask for $10,000 after four years of work and not getting a raise. I'm like, is that it? Is that all you're going to ask for? And they're like, and I'm like, and I'm like, well, you know, not to like disappoint you, but like, I'll go on in 90 minutes and make 500 bucks. Like, they're like, wait, what? Like, I'm like, yeah, like, I got the most amazing, generous pinball fans. And they literally it's like, just it's really fun for everybody. Like you guys are all successful. We're all successful. Like everybody can eat and it's just fun to do this. And it's amazing. I know betting is terrible. Betting is terrible. The house always wins. You're right. You're right. You're right. I will never say gambling is good. It's actually the biggest pandemic that's going to destroy so many young men's lives. And I'm very disappointed that they've legalized it and made it so easy. I am. And they should have just made it like you could place a bet. But all these prop bets and parlays and that's what you can bet whether or not the next pitch is a strike or a ball. Who thought that was a good idea? Anyway, look, I'm really blown away by the generosity, guys. You guys are all amazing. I really love it. So, look, Pokemon code, Transformers sales are abysmal. Ozzy, I hope you get your LE soon. Look, I think people are going to have fun with Transformers.
    23:17
    You know, I won't lie. I really love what Elizabeth has done with the code in the game. It's just, you know, there's something happening beyond the optimist issue, though, that's creating a sales disaster for them. I think it's big. I think it's unfortunately here. Do you guys want to know the truth? First of all, happy belated birthday, Gary Stern. Yesterday was Gary's birthday. And, you know, we can be critical of, you know, some of the recent moves by Stern Pinball. But without Gary Stern, none of us would be here.
    23:56
    I don't mean like you fathered us. I mean, without Gary Stern, this community would not even exist. Think about all the friendships, all the relationships, all the shows we've been to, all the pins we've enjoyed. Without Gary Stern, none of it happens. Without Gary Stern, there is no Jersey Jack Pinball. There is no anything else out there. If Stern Pinball closed up its doors in 2004, we wouldn't have any of this.
    24:24
    So when you zoom out, the man is everything in pinball. Now, here's the thing. Gary's big mistake was private equity. It's the biggest mistake he ever made. Bringing in the private equity money and Gary losing control of the company to private equity is why Stern is operating the way they are operating today. Private equity only cares about growth over culture. They only care about efficiencies over passion. And they only care about really just growth. Like it's just the most annoying. They ruin more great companies than anybody. And they don't care. They're not pinball fans. They're fans of money. And they're leeches that find the next good company to go ruin. And, you know, they'll create a few years of surplus growth because the goal is to sell it off and make a return on their investment. And they could care. They don't give two dams about being loyal to the customers or doing the right things for the for the company and the culture of the people there. And so the vibe I get, you know, from people over at Stern is that the company really hasn't nearly been as much fun since private equity took over. And I've seen it happen to so many companies.
    25:53
    I can't name names of this beautiful startup company. Private Equity comes in, billionaire guy. And then all of a sudden, like they went from like having four products that really worked. And now they've got like 15 product lines. And, you know, and like now it's everything. It's this, it's that, it's that. Like, like you couldn't just be the best of this. You need it to be like 18 different things. And again, it's all about trying to scale it, trying to grow the business at the cost of like losing your identity and losing your attention to detail. And I've seen it happen and it's terrible. It's happening everywhere, man. These leeches with money. You know what's sad? When you have so much money and you literally need to keep making more and more and more. You can't just sit back and chill somewhere. You got to go in and ruin another company. And then you take credit as you destroy the company and you're out. You made yourself richer and then you're out. And you leave a broken company in your wake.
    27:03
    I'll say this. It almost happened to our company. I mean, we got acquired. It wasn't. But what happened was we we basically had a leader who was just all he cared about was money. And he's gone now. It's great. And everyone's happier now. But he almost won out. And if he had won out, the soul of our organization would have died because all he did was like care. All he cared about was money. He didn't care. You know, it's funny when they're like, well, you know, you do need to make money. Like, let's be candid. Like, money keeps people employed. But like good work makes you the money. And when you stop celebrating the creativity and you stop celebrating the work and you're focused on the numbers, it's like trying to make money with music. If your goal is to sell a million albums, you're not going to write great music. If you just write songs that are amazing from the heart and don't care about sales, then you'll sell a million albums.
    28:12
    Okay, AP rumor is new owner is being challenged with major rights litigation. May go bust again. You mean our friend Brian over there? Brian Vincent?
    28:26
    Major rights litigation? By who? What did Ray say here? Isn't Stern and pinball more successful than ever? Not sure I get money over culture argument with pinball. So Ray, Ray, here's the thing.
    28:45
    Stern is not more successful than ever. They're not. I guarantee you Stern's margins and their profit is not the best it's ever been. And they've scaled up so big that their cost of operations is through the roof now.
    29:09
    And Ray, I talk to people over there and they're not happy. I don't know any other way to put it. They're just not happy. So it's like, all right. They used to be. Used to be the best place to work. I don't think it is anymore.
    29:28
    Pokemon is the fastest selling game they've ever released. Okay. Yeah. What are the numbers? Nobody knows. So, you know, I don't believe any of that. I don't believe any of it. How can something be the fastest when you don't even know what the speed is? You don't even know what the record is. You don't even know what the number is. All this talk. Oh, it's the fastest selling game. Of what? How many? What's your measurement? What's their time frame? It's all stupid. Stern doesn't announce its numbers. You have no idea how many games they sold.
    30:10
    It doesn't make any sense. It's all fluff that some of these distros and dealers say. I don't know why they say it. They act like they're investors in Stern.
    30:26
    Yeah, I think Ozzy's right. I just think the LEs sold out instantly, which they haven't had in years. But then the sales have gone off a cliff.
    30:39
    So Ray just said, Stern seems to be selling out of what they make. That's not true. They sell through, Ray. They don't sell out. Like you can go get a Transformers LE. You can go get a Pokemon LE. They're all over the place.
    31:01
    Look, gang, I hope Stern has sellouts. I want Stern to have games that are hard to get. I want, like, that means the game's good. I'm not rooting against Stern. What I'm disappointed in is the lack of communication. Like, let me just flip my shirt over. Hold on.
    31:31
    Thank you for watching. We're not going to get into it, but I believe in a creator for sure. Everything comes from somewhere. We didn't just go from nothing to this.
    32:20
    I hope the Knicks win tonight. I actually want them to win in New York, though. Well, all the 80% of the market's homeowners, man.
    32:38
    Here's what I'm disappointed in, though. Oh, hold on, my boy Pete. Hold on a second. I have to call him back.
    32:48
    Yo, let me call you back. I'm doing my pinball show. Yeah, you better. All right. Are you all right? Yeah, I'm fine. Okay. Yeah, call me back. All right.
    33:01
    All right. Oh. Hold on. Let me just call him back real quick. Hold on a second. I'm going to put you guys on pause for five minutes. I just want to make sure he's okay. Because I...
    33:31
    Thank you. All right. Sorry, guys. We're going back on live here. Sorry for that pause.
    35:21
    No, it's just I just want to make sure like, Jesus, these guys like. I don't know what the hell they were doing last night. People like on a boat like falling into the water and stuff. I'm like guys get it together. Get it together. I was not jumping in the water to save people. I don't even know where they like what happened. Like I just I don't I do not like the mixture of boats and booze. I think you every weekend read the news like boating accidents and it's like just no. Everyone's got everyone's got everyone's got families. Everyone's got too much to live for to get on a boat and be irresponsible.
    36:11
    Can't be on a boat. All right. So here's what I'm really disappointed in, though, like just the lack of communication at Stern. I just think everyone who bought a Pokemon should have a weekly update on where they're at with it. I don't understand. Think about it. You've got thousands of people dissatisfied and then you release Ninja Turtles code. It's like, what are we... I almost forgot they even made Ninja Turtles. You know what the cheat code in life is? Brenda and I did it yesterday. We just sat back here and just had lunch in our back garden. We had some champagne because yesterday was the 12th anniversary of me meeting Brenda.
    37:08
    I still remember the day I met her. I mean, you're like, I hope you do. I remember the first time I saw her. It was really such a whirlwind night. I still remember everything. I remember where we went. I remember we started at Brass Monkey. Then we went to, well, first we went to the Boom Boom Room at the hotel, the Standard Hotel downtown, then Brass Monkey, then Duplex, then Joshua Tree. Then I lost my computer. I lost my wallet. I lost, like, it was one of those nights where, and I ended up finding my computer the next day and my wallet was at her place. Sperry Pintlejuice, Evel Dead. Sperry Pintlejuice, Evil Dead. Cheat code because, you know, it's just so tired of going out and always spending like 150 bucks on like garbage. Like that's become the modern world. Like anywhere you go, it's 150 bucks. Every drink's like 15 to 20 dollars. Every entree is 40 bucks now. Every appetizer is 19. Yeah, when the world is serving up in this town, like everywhere you go, guac is $20 to $25 for guacamole. You're like, what just happened here?
    39:36
    Do you have a water feature fountain? No. I'll give you guys a little, like, let's see. Here we go. There we go.
    39:46
    Thank you for watching Then we got my little fire pit There it is Now eventually they got my barbecue Eventually when the kids are a little older I going to do one of those like
    40:01
    because I'm soaking pools, you know, not like just so I can like get in a little chill, like and just do this the whole time I'm in there. Not swim, just do this. Thank you for watching. At least articulate what they're working on. Like, they don't have to show us it. They can just be like, hey, we're trying to get, like, evolving your Pokemon in. And here's the update on the Pokedex issue. Like, just be transparent about it. Like, I don't understand what kind of deal this is. Like, you're making a Pokemon game and you can't communicate to your buyers, like, what your intent is with the game.
    41:06
    They would not approve the post about the approval of... I doubt that they have a gag order on even talking about the very game they're making.
    41:17
    That would be the worst deal ever then. And I wish there was a little bit more Sonic to go on. There's no Sonic leaks. There's no Sonic.
    41:31
    Kerry did his video where he said he played it and he didn't really get me that excited to be honest.
    41:40
    Here's like, he's just like, yeah, man, it's a Sonic game. I love Gary Hardy. Yeah, he's funny. I love the different angles where he's like over here and then he's over here. He's over here. He's like talking. And then he's like, you know, like what?
    42:02
    We're all just like dingbats wasting our life making pinball content for everyone's entertainment. Like it is what it is. It is what it is.
    42:11
    Oh, man. We were like arm wrestling last night, which is stupid. I lost to everybody. I'm not heavy to win in arm wrestling.
    42:24
    It's just a weight thing. Look, I think the code is going to be great one day. Just when is that day? And do we all have enough patience to hold on until then?
    42:41
    Unfortunately, the problem is that everyone's Pokemons are going to tank in value by the time the code gets great. And we're all going to learn the same lesson we've been learning now forever, which is I should have just waited. I think, you know, there was a point, if Pokemon came out and was banger day one, yeah, the LEs would have held value and been worth way more than 13. I think the game slides down to 10 now. I just do. I'm going to hold it. The kids love it.
    43:13
    You know, it is a hassle to move games in and out. I do need to drive to automate it. Frank, I don't know if you're still here. I need to drop off my Guns N' Roses keys so they can fix the switch and then we're going to sell Guns N' Roses. Someone's going to get a beautiful Guns N' Roses CE. And I think I'll up that money towards the next game. Thank you. Spooky South Park is going to happen and it's probably like two, three years away. So, yeah, you know, these like Spooky's not going to have any issues selling Gremlins, Goonies and South Park. Like, I think that's the next three from Spooky. And then they might do a little run of Motorhead that game on the side. And that's going to be that.
    44:26
    So, you know, and they're all going to be instant sellouts and it's just going to be a bloodbath to get one. It's going to be fun to watch every time it happens.
    44:38
    So apparently I was wrong on the Elwin game next year. And, you know, maybe I got some bad news and apparently it's going to still be this year. So this is what's weird to me then is like, OK, are we really maybe going to get four Stern Cornerstone games in one year? So Pokemon, Transformers, Fallout, and then ACDC. Because those are all cornerstone games.
    45:12
    I'm like, I kind of feel like the Borg ACDC wouldn't be this year. And that they're going to just do the Goldfinger. I don't know, man. And like anything's possible at Stern now because they just they need sales. Elwin on Ozzy would make sense. Yeah, that's what I'm hearing.
    45:39
    I agree. I don't understand. It's all right. Randy, what's up? Brian, what's going on, man? So Fallout, I think so. That's what I'm hearing. It makes sense. There's always one Elwynn game a year. So I did think the delay was a little strange.
    46:11
    Here's my thing on Fallout. And guys, correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's going to be a great shooter. I just don't think people want Fallout, the TV show.
    46:25
    Godzilla's iconic. If you think about the Elwynn misses, King Kong was a miss. Avengers was a miss. I just don't see... It's just weird to me that he didn't do Pokemon.
    46:39
    Why didn't he do Star Wars? Why didn't he do, heck, even Transformers? You know what I'm saying? Like, Elwin, baby. You give him, like, Fallout is such an obscure license, and they're thinking maybe that, like, on licenses like that, he'll elevate it, but I don't know. So, it definitely could make a cool world under glass for sure. And Lucy's, you know, going to be sexy on that Translight. I just think that, I just worry that, you know, how many of you are going to want to just like keep going through that Fallout TV show? And will that TV show really make you feel goosebumps and giddy and nostalgia? And will you emotionally connect with the content? People emotionally are into Jaws and Godzilla and King Kong. You know what I'm saying?
    47:44
    There's nostalgia with all that. That's why Kong is such a miss because nobody had nostalgia. The way they presented King Kong, nobody had nostalgia for it. It looked terrible. The code, all of it. The art was terrible. The clips were stupid. That's not the King Kong we remember. But Godzilla, perfect translation. Jaws, perfect translation. Hence the sales.
    48:13
    Mark Henry said, Hey, Chris, just launched our vacation home on Airbnb. Driving distance for you. I'll send you a link. Oh, nice. Thank you, Mark. What else is it? You can do a special rate for your family. It has three sterns and a full arcade. Oh, awesome. Mark, that's like I always wish, man, I could have Airbnb my bedroom arcade. I did it like once I got like 600 bucks a night. And my co-op board shut it down. Make sense. It was weird though having strangers stay in your primary home.
    48:55
    I'm going to go flip the shirt over again. Hold on a second. I'm just trying not to like bait it. Thank you for watching. Self-esteem and they're going to be fine. That's it.
    49:48
    Too many rich, like super rich people and their kids are all messed up. Yeah, there's nothing worse than rich kids feeling like they're victims or something and apologetic for their family's money.
    50:02
    Lean into it. It's like, you know what I'm saying? Enjoy life. I think a lot of kids in this town are being raised right. Like they're, they've got good. The one thing I'm not getting these kids on these like electric bikes. Have you seen these things? They're like motorcycles. They go like 50, 60 miles an hour. These kids, no helmets on. Like I'm literally like who, what parents are giving their kids these things? Thanks for watching. The concept of Fallout is pretty cool.
    51:05
    We know Elwin's going to crush it, bro. He's next level. Good. I think it's really awesome to have Elwin in this corner, Steve Ritchie in this corner. Their games are going to be out in just a few months apart now, which is exciting. Jair Pintlejuice, Evel Dead, Jair Pintlejuice, Evel Dead, Jair Pintlejuice, Evel Dead. Ample time on X-Men, it would have gone down as one of the greatest games ever. It really would have. Like, if done right, you know, they just, they rushed him. And, you know.
    52:17
    Yeah, can you imagine Jack with Elizabeth? Like, that should be the team. Like, Elwin's got his team of coders. They're great. And then Jack and Elizabeth together would just be amazing. I mean, I see, I actually think Stern should just do two cornerstones a year, one from Jack Danger and one from Keefe Elwin with Elliot and Borg like in supporting roles. And maybe they each, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, like the three thing doesn't really, it's not really working out.
    52:54
    I am, yeah, I'm really excited for the next, the back half of this year because, I mean, I was looking at Back to the Future again on my phone and I'm just like, I'm like, all right. I will say, though, I think Back to the Future, you know, I just, I'm not, I think in its totality, it's going to blow everybody away. I think seeing it as a whitewood and not seeing the Franchi artwork on it, it's hard to get excited about it. I haven't seen the 27-inch screen, the assets, but when that Back to the Future theme song, man, everyone's going to want one and getting one is going to be a problem. So, Franchi shows up, gets utterly ignored, Franchi leaves, have fun. Okay, where are you going? What are you saying, Franchi?
    53:56
    Did I miss something you said? Let's see. What is Christopher Franchi? Well, you got the floor now, brother. Franchi is literally going to be on the most in-demand games.
    54:16
    I mean, look, I still, brother, like Beetlejuice, you missed everything I said. All right, I'm going back. Let's see.
    54:27
    Let's see. I'm reading. I'm looking. We got Electric Bat. We got Kale in the house. Sup, Kale? I'm not seeing anything, Franchi. Rude. Oh, here we go. Second time I tune in, think something is wrong because there's no audio and he's holding some private chat. All right. All right. Franchi, I don't know, man. Just say what you say. Repeat. Repeat it. All right. Jorginho, John Ambrose, Corsair, Kogel, St. Paul, and Michael B. Backe, and Mark R. Cronkite, and G. H. G. R. M. and C. S. D. P. S. M. S. M. S. M. S. M. S. M. S. S. S. S. I know Sonic's going to be great, but with the new Jersey Jack model, I just don't have the, I have no FOMO or urgency.
    55:54
    You know what I'm, you know, it's like, it's like this weird thing. It's like, I'm so happy Jersey Jack is firing on all cylinders. They've changed the model. It works for them. It works for us. It's a win-win.
    56:05
    You know me, I'm a FOMO whore. I kind of need that. Like, I got one, you know, like there's none of that. Probably healthier to stop being a FOMO whore and just buying what you love and never selling it and you never lose a penny that way. It's like the much healthier, more adult approach.
    56:26
    Barrels. So AP's banger is not this year. So then it comes down to like, does barrels have... I mean, David's next game is like, it's a really important game for them. And they know this. David needs, he needs to capture what he captured with Winchester with another game that he can sell a thousand of in day one. And if he does that, and he knows that, and he knows it's not a never-ending story, right? He knows that, that he can't achieve that. I think it's big trouble in Little China. I think he knows, like, I think he's been sandbagging, like, the ability to get that license. I think it's gettable. It's John Carpenter. It's gettable. I think he's got it. And he hired the guy that made the big trouble in Little China homebrew. So you got to ask yourself, why would he do that? Now, it can't be that homebrew game. Like, that's not enough. That's not good enough. That's not enough. It's a great homebrew game. It's not like, you know, it's like it's like Ryan McQuaid's Sonic. Nice homebrew game, not a production game. Not enough there. So if David Van Ness has big trouble in Little China, day one sellout. And he knows it. He knows it. It's like it's such a perfect thing for pinball. It's just such a cool thing for pinball. So is Fifth Element.
    58:17
    You know, I get in these debates with people all the time. It's like, well, how can big trouble in Little China outsell Avatar or the demand be greater? It's because it's a cult classic that you never get tired of. Whereas Avatar, you're beyond tired of it. You never want to see it again.
    58:39
    This is the difference. That's where the energy is. It's the same reason why Transformers the movie is where the energy is. It's not just the series.
    58:51
    Dude, I told you Big Trouble in Little China is not licensable for consumer products. I don't know, man. I don't know.
    59:02
    Frenchi's saying it's not. Frenchi, what is he making then? Do you know? If you've never seen Big Trouble in Little China, Kaz, you should go watch it. It's a great movie.
    59:21
    You can't tell? You can tell me. Do you know, though, Frenchi, what their title is? I mean yeah Masters of the Universe was the other really like I just don think I I a little like seeing the seeing the lukewarm Transformers sales has me a little bit like maybe we don want to go back and watch the cartoons we grew up with again as adults It a gamble It a gamble Like the new He movie came out It didn really do well at the box office apparently It was two and a half hours long. It wasn't a bad – people enjoyed it. But again, like two and a half hours. I'm like – it's the same. Like I want to go see Disclosure Day but I'm like I don't want to go see a two and a half hour Disclosure Day.
    60:13
    Look, all of the gang, I've said it. Big Trouble in Little China will sell you a thousand games. That's what I've said. I didn't I won't sell you six thousand games.
    60:39
    Knight Rider is a good one. A-Team is a good one. I like actually the – here's amazing pinball ideas. Knight Rider, A-Team, Magnum PI, and Miami Vice. All of those. Yes, to all of those. If you need to sell 1,000 units, Miami Vice, Magnum PI, Knight Rider, and A-Team.
    61:06
    Just start right there. Those are all gettable. Airwolf would be more obscure.
    61:14
    Galaxy Quest, eh, maybe. Cheers, cheers, eh, The Office would be amazing. An office pinball machine that looked like Dunder Mifflin under the glass, Seinfeld would be amazing. I mean it. You would sell Seinfeld. You make Seinfeld's living room under the glass and you have all the funny episodes.
    61:41
    I'm telling you, the fact that there's no comedic TV show in pinball, kind of weird when you think about it.
    61:54
    MacGyver. I feel like all those different strokes might even work. I mean it. What did you talk about, Willis?
    62:12
    Man, I used to watch different strokes every day. I feel like it was just... I love that show. There was a rumor years ago Spooky Pinball LLC, Jersey Jack Pinball, Barrels of Fun discussing Harry Potter, King Kong, Beetlejuice, Evil Dead. Thank you. Did they start earlier today?
    63:36
    What time are they? Noon. All right. Fun. And then we got the Knicks tonight. How many people with – yeah, how many of you guys are out of space? I've always said that space is the biggest problem for people.
    64:11
    I – space is my main issue. Not even the money, just the space. It's, um, it's, it's, it's, yeah, I just don't have a big house.
    64:32
    I could put one in the garage. But I'm worried about the garage being like the, it's, it's the temperature in there. And I don't think it'd be good to put a pinball because it gets cold in the winter and gets hot in the summer because the garage is not on the houses. This is sort of like the central area does not go into the garage.
    65:02
    Build a game room in your backyard. No, I want a plunge pool. What I want to do is open up a spot locally that has pins. That's the goal. So more to come on that. And I have a few ideas on where to do that. So, look, it'd be an interesting test to see people show up.
    65:31
    This is the disaster Stern created and all companies have to suffer with. No space because Stern constant re-releasing devalued games they don't sell. Well, you know, so what Franchi's saying is true. There's like nobody wants the old Stern stuff now, especially when they keep remaking it. So think about what's going to happen when you make James Bond now on Spike 3 and you bring back all these other games and then you make another ACDC. So what do you do with the 8000 ACDCs that are out there in the world? Now everyone's like, they plummet in value. They did the same thing with all the Metallica's out there. It's not good. It's not good. What you want is a tighter control on the supply because if you do that, the demand stays high. It's simple economics. They've saturated the market. They've burned everybody's value.
    66:36
    And so then the demand for those games is just plummeting. And I've said it, these old Stern Pros are going to be like $3,000 soon.
    66:44
    That's what dealers are offering to take these games off people's hands. Which bar? Well, like I am.
    67:05
    I, you know, someone just said no game is worth over $7,000. I like. When you when you do, I'm just going to move this. The sun's coming. It's coming for me. Hold on. Let me just.
    67:20
    Just move over to the shade here. Turn this around. Thank you. All right, what's the pro? Like, how much is a pro? You know what I'm saying? Like, there's not like how much more money is actually put into the premium and the LE not much.
    68:11
    And then, you know, fully loaded a Stern is like $15,000. Now, I mean, you realize like, it's stupid, like, it's, it's stupid how much, you know, these games are. The Jersey Jack Bomb, the Spooky Bomb just definitely feels higher than the Stern Bomb.
    68:34
    All pins are about 5K with labor. So, you know, really good margins on the LE. That's why they're able to give dealers, like think about it, like a dealer's making over $2,000 to sell an LE. Isn't that crazy? Handing a dealer two grand.
    68:58
    Because what you're really doing is forcing them to buy a bunch of premiums and pros to realize that $2,000 gain. So it's like, you know, nothing's free. That lens flare is crazy. Where's that coming from? Look at that.
    69:16
    It's like a perfect beam. The sun is like right there. It's like... Gang, I want to thank you guys for all the donations today. You guys are beyond... I can't get rid of this photo. Let me see the angle.
    69:38
    We're going to go to the sun. Look at that. Wow. You can see it. Just... This is if you had like a magnifying glass. You ever do that when you're in just like roast ants?
    69:52
    Thank you for watching. Anything you want to talk about we haven't discussed in the last five minutes here?
    70:29
    Yeah, the water is cold. Another thing. It was fun. The thing about all good times, Oz, is you want to end.
    70:44
    Everything's a good time until it's not, and you just want to make sure you end a good night in the right way. Ozzy wants to talk about how cool Transformers are. Ozzy, where is your Transformers LA? Do you have a time frame of when you can expect it?
    71:02
    The shills have not come at me this week. So apparently Loser Kid took down that $500 offer, and I talked about it earlier. So it's on my Facebook page. Maybe I'll yank it down. It doesn't change the fact that they put that out. You know what I'm saying? And it's funny because, like, I don't know, man, like, it's not like that clearly was Zack and their strategy to, I don't know, like, I've never seen that before. And the reason why they took it down is they realize it's a bad look for all parties involved.
    71:45
    Bill Brand is baby. Bill, how you doing? I know God is like shining down on me. Bill, life is good. Give Sabrina my best and the little. How many little Frenchies did you have? One Frenchie or two Frenchies? I feel like there's two of them.
    72:01
    Dogs are the greatest. I can't wait to get a dog. There's still the kids are still just a little too young.
    72:09
    Well, I think it's sleazy. I think it's sleazy because here's why. It's like, how are you giving $500 off a game that doesn't have a price yet? And why are you doing like putting something on sale right away is absolutely a bad look for any game. No great game needs to be on sale right away.
    72:31
    It's not showing it's trying to make. No, but here's the thing. It's not. I don't mind Zach doing that. It's loser kid doing that is the problem. Do you see what I'm saying, Ozzy? It's like you can't be a pinball creator that says you objectively review games and then be giving people a $500 discount to order the game. Then you're getting a kickback on the games on your lead generation for sales.
    73:04
    So then you're no longer like – you know what I'm saying? There's separation of church and state there, bro. Yeah, that's I think that's that's that's not a good look to get a cut of sales. Like this is not a good look.
    73:23
    You can't how can you be objective if you're getting a cut? When why would you I just it's a bad look.
    73:39
    Look, yeah, and that's why they took it down. Because they know it was a bad look. You know what I'm saying, honestly? Like, if it was a good look,
    73:55
    dumbest excuse, not the adult. No, the kids are still too young. The other reason we're not getting a dog just yet is we're just traveling a lot this year. Spooky Pinball Inc. Is that different than hyping up Pokemon when you're trying to scalp one?
    74:48
    Yeah, it's much different. Yeah, absolutely it's different. Also, gang, like the Pokemon hype was real. Like everyone was hyped for that game. That's why it sold out so quickly. You get that, right? You think it was just me doing it? I simply was capturing what everyone's mood was around that game. And Pokemon made people very happy until we saw how shallow the code was. If Pokemon code was amazing, the game would still be selling for $18,000 for at least all day long.
    75:24
    Absolutely. I'm telling you, a lot of people love that game because of its simplicity. And it makes you feel like a much better player than you are. Most people who own pinball machines suck at pinball. Most people that play pinball don't want complex rule sets. They don't want four or five flippers. They don't. They want to feel like satisfied and it's got satisfying shots. There's not a lot of them, but it's satisfying. And also, Pokemon is a gorgeous game when you stand over it. I mean, it absolutely is a gorgeous game. I think they nailed the brief on it. It's just got nothing to do.
    76:15
    Well, Ozzy, like, you probably had premium, Ozzy. And how much did you sell it for? How much did you lose on Pokemon?
    76:27
    Probably not too much. You got in and out quickly. But yeah, I mean, the hype was real. I doubt I'm going to get an English Bulldog again. There's just a lot, a lot more maintenance. And Brenda wants to get a dog that doesn't shed. You're still trying to sell it?
    76:52
    Yeah, man. I mean, Ozzy, Ozzy, I did not tell anybody to buy. Buying a Stern Premium is the dumbest thing ever. And Ozzy, you know this now, right?
    77:00
    Buying a Stern Premium makes absolutely no sense because the LEs all slide down to the value of a premium. Like spending $9,500 on a brand new Stern Premium is the dumbest move you could possibly make in all pinball right now.
    77:13
    So, Ozzy, you learned. You learned a lesson. Because if you had gotten an LE, Ozzy, you definitely would have been able to sell it for $13.
    77:28
    Everyone learns a lesson. And, Ozzy, you're not a premium guy. You're an LE dude, bro. You know that. Come on.
    77:36
    Listen to me, and you'll be fine. I mean, that's not a bad deal, $7,500 for a Pokemon premium. That's crazy, man. Someone buy it from him. Well, see, Ozzy, the lesson here is when you wanted an LE, they sold out. You should have just waited.
    78:17
    You know, you just wait. I mean, you're about to lose $3,000 on your Transformers LE, bro. I don't know what to tell you. That game is going off the deep end, bro. And everybody, have a great Saturday. Enjoy the World Cup. Let's go Knicks.
    78:38
    And let's be very thankful for all we have. And really, thank you guys for the support. It means a lot. It really does. This is the best community in pinball. Everybody knows it.
    78:50
    The people that are saying it's so negative. I can't imagine hanging out here for like 90 minutes and being like, I don't know. Just kind of like a fun talk about pinball. Everyone's heard here. No one's disrespectful. No one's fighting. You go into a pin side thread, within 30 seconds, people are ready to tear each other's heads off. I don't get where the negativity around this community comes from or my content comes from. I don't get it. I get we put people on blast. So what? I'm not randomly blasting people who don't deserve it at times.
    79:22
    Trust me. Like, anyway, be good, everybody. You know, end this show. Viva la Kaneda. All right. All right, all right, all right. End stream. Thank you for the donations, guys. You guys rock today.