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Breakdown of Stern's Jaws Pinball Release with Jaws Expert

Don't Panic Flip·video·1h 38m·analyzed·Jan 7, 2024
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TL;DR

Jaws pinball blind reaction with superfan podcaster MJ examining theme fidelity and game mechanics.

Summary

Don't Panic Flip hosts a blind reaction to Stern's Jaws pinball with MJ, a Jaws superfan who runs the 'Let's Jaws for a Minute' podcast (80+ hours of episode analysis). The hosts examine the playfield, toys, and artwork, discussing theme integration, the absence of a physical ball lock on the Orca, the shark bash toy mechanism, and how the game adapts all four Jaws films. MJ provides deep context on film references (radio smashing, chum, bounties, the lantern fire) while noting design choices that diverge from his expectations.

Key Claims

  • MJ has hosted approximately 80 hours of podcast discussion about Jaws across 124 episodes of 'Let's Jaws for a Minute'

    high confidence · MJ stated the podcast was minute-by-minute breakdown with roughly one hour per episode discussion, 124 minutes in film, broken into scenes rather than strict minutes

  • The Jaws pinball is based on all four Jaws movies, including Jaws 3D

    high confidence · Don mentioned 'according to pinball news the Jaws pinball is based on all four Jaws movies even Jaws 3D'

  • The game features two captive balls side by side on the playfield

    high confidence · Both hosts visually confirmed and discussed 'two captive balls, which is really interesting. Side by side'

  • Keith Elwin is the designer of Jaws pinball and was given a substantial budget by Stern

    high confidence · Host stated 'Stern absolutely gives Keith a budget. Of course they do' and referenced Keith's profile picture showing unique content

  • The shark does not have a physical ball-grabbing mechanism; instead it functions as a bash toy with a state change

    high confidence · Hosts discussed shark mechanism as 'bash toy with a state change' that 'lifts up to reveal a bash toy' rather than grabbing balls

  • The original Jaws puppet survived in a junkyard until 2018 when it was rescued and restored

    high confidence · MJ stated puppet 'was in a junkyard really... until 2018... it was rescued by someone on Greg Nicotero... his team restored it and now it hangs in the academy museum'

  • MJ expected the Orca boat to be the main toy with ball locks on the barrels (like in the film), not the speedboat

    high confidence · MJ explained expectation was 'the barrels would be the pinballs, and they would lock in there' on the Orca, disappointed the speedboat is featured instead

  • The Pro edition of Jaws is described as 'one of the best Stern layouts in years'

    medium confidence · Chat user LambDiggityDangDog stated 'I'm thinking the Pro is one of the best Stern layouts in years' and hosts affirmed Pro editions of Keith Elwin games are consistently strong

Notable Quotes

  • “I've always been a little trepidatious about it... It's because it's barely an action movie. It's mainly about three guys on land having interpersonal drama about their masculinity. And then the last hour is chasing the shark.”

    MJ@ 5:56 — Reveals MJ's core concern about translating Jaws to pinball—the film is thematically about character conflict, not action, making faithful game design challenging

  • “I would love a Jaws 3D. It was freaking Dennis Quaid cocaine eyeballs multiball.”

    MJ@ 6:21 — Humorous take on Jaws 3D as an alternative dream theme; 'cocaine eyeballs' refers to Quaid's acting in that film

  • “In this, Jaws is the bad guy. What better situation for a bash toy? Right, and on top of that, in the movie, you don't, it bites people, but you can't bite a ball.”

    MJ@ 15:24 — Defends the bash toy design choice as thematically appropriate—Jaws as antagonist, not protagonist, matches the mechanic

  • “You don't see the shark that much in the movie... it actually makes sense to have the shark be hidden, this hidden threat most of the game. It comes out and you're like, oh, I got to deal with this thing right now.”

    MJ@ 19:49 — Articulates how the game design mirrors film structure—shark as rare, impactful threat rather than constant presence

  • “Steve Ritchie feels like he was never given a budget and constantly like, you need to pull it. He didn't get to do what he wanted to do, but Keith is just the golden child. He's like, yeah, you want extra material? Make it happen.”

    Host@ 21:29 — Reflects on designer resource allocation and creative autonomy differences between Stern designers; suggests Keith Elwin has more favor/budget than historical designers like Ritchie

Entities

MJpersonKeith ElwinpersonDonpersonStern PinballcompanyGreg NicoteropersonSarah ButterypersonSteven SpielbergpersonSteve Ritchieperson

Signals

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    sentiment_shift: Positive reception of captive ball mechanic and overall playfield complexity; audience enthusiasm for Pro edition quality; some design preference variance (ball lock expectations vs. bash toy execution)

    high · Chat engagement, pin enthusiasts praising upper playfield; MJ's initial skepticism converting to appreciation of design rationale

  • ?

    design_philosophy: MJ expected Orca boat (main film vessel) to be primary toy with barrel ball locks, disappointed that speedboat (minor film role) features instead; reflects designer choice to balance mechanical variety over strict film centrality

    high · MJ explicitly stated expectation: 'the barrels would be the pinballs... the Orca would be the main toy, not Hooper's speedboat'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Playfield artwork includes specific film references and Easter eggs: lantern fire, solitaire cards, radio, chum bucket, bounty system—indicating designer attention to narrative detail

    high · MJ identified and explained significance of: lantern (fire on Orca), cards (Quint/Hooper solitaire joke), broken radio (smashing scene), chum bucket (chumming scene)

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Keith Elwin demonstrates thematic integration by having shark function as hidden threat/antagonist via bash toy rather than ball-grabbing mechanism, mirroring film's rare but impactful shark appearances

    high · MJ and Don both affirm bash toy as thematically appropriate choice; discussion of how shark's hidden presence mirrors film structure

  • $

    market_signal: Pro edition of Jaws receiving positive community anticipation despite premium tier pricing; suggests strong demand for high-quality base models even in three-tier pricing structure

Topics

Theme fidelity and film adaptation in pinballprimaryPlayfield toy design: bash toys vs. physical ball locksprimaryKeith Elwin's design approach and Stern budget allocationprimaryJaws film references and Easter eggs in game artworkprimaryPro vs. Premium vs. Limited Edition tier differentiationsecondaryOriginal Jaws puppet history and cultural artifactssecondaryDesigner creative autonomy and resource allocation at SternsecondaryCaptive ball mechanics in modern pinballsecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.78)— MJ and Don are largely positive about the game's design choices, with MJ initially skeptical about theme adaptation but warming to the execution. Some expressed disappointment (no ball lock on Orca, speedboat over main boat focus) but these are specific design critiques within overall appreciation. Chat sentiment is enthusiastic about Pro edition quality.

Transcript

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One was. Exciting. Let's dive in and bite off some judgment. Kiwi says, that's all I want. So you've avoided, I think, if that's correctly. By and large, yes. I've sort of seen glimpses of these images that are on the computer right now. Okay. But I didn't look at them in too much detail. Okay. I've seen a couple images of the play field, but once again, like, scrolled away really fast. Sure, sure. I have not seen any of the videos. Okay. Well, okay. I watched the announcement video and I watched the story trailer, and that's it. So I haven't seen any other videos that came out today. Okay. Got it. Yep. So, first of all, before we go too much further, why is it that we're so unique about having you, MJ, here to do a blind reveal or a blind reaction to Jaws? Yeah. Well, one, I'm wearing a sweater that is the schematic. Oh, you have to talk into this mic. Okay. Well, for one, this is a sweater that is the schematic of the puppet. Okay. That's awesome. And I got this at the – Yeah, you can move that. Like position it however you want. There we go. Yeah. That feels way more natural. Okay. So, yeah, this sweater I got at the Academy Museum, which is the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, like the Academy Awards. The Academy. me um because they have uh the only surviving jaws puppet hanging on their fourth story wow yep um it was in a junkyard really yeah it was in a junkyard until 2018 okay and then it was rescued by someone on greg nicotero the special effects supervisor for the walking dead okay um someone on his team rescued it and him and his team restored it and now it hangs in the academy museum so i went to the academy museum over the holiday and i got to meet the shark okay i took some some some pictures uh but the reason i was about to say okay the biggest reason is because i have a podcast all about jaws really yes what's the name of this podcast it is called let's jaws for a minute, and it was a minute-by-minute breakdown of the film. Each week we watch roughly one minute of Jaws, and then talk about it for at least an hour, most weeks an hour and a half. How many minutes is Jaws? It's 124. So there is at least 124 hours of discussion that you personally have had on Jaws in podcast form? So there is close to a hundred. We didn't follow it. So that is a lot of Jaws. So Lamb Diggity, it is like Star Wars Minute, but they are much more strict about sticking to one minute on the dot. Okay. We sort of like broke it up scene by scene. Or like guidelines. Yeah. We tried to stick as close to a minute as possible. so it's 80 it's 80 hours ish of Jaws oh he got a little bit of death oh did he? sorry I just wanted to interrupt and I wanted to say hi MJ but I wanted to show like on the camera the water bottle MJ brought with him this evening so that's my Jaws water bottle that's my favorite and then also I wanted to show the picture Ow! Ow! That's my booty. That I sent MJ earlier this year. Oh, yes. From Expo. This homebrew Jaws. Last year, it was a homebrew before Jaws was released. That's very blurry. Yeah, well, I told you it was very blurry. Jaws, but played by Left Shark. Yeah, something like that. But it had, like, the chomps out of the side. Oh, right, yeah. Like, the shrimp had the chomps out of the side, and it was all bloody. And so, I don't know, I guess I'll let you, I guess I'll just send it to you. So, if you wanted to post it on Discord. Okay, cool. Yeah, I can do. Yeah. Thank you. I'll make sure it gets up on Discord. Oh, and if you're not following the Discord, I'm going to go ahead and post that really quick, which is. Oh, no. So, sorry to interrupt, MJ. Hi, welcome. And, yeah, there's soda and stuff in there for a different one. Great. Yeah, thank you. That's the link for Discord. So over 124 hours, guidelines, not rules. Correct. On whether or not you actually stuck to the minute. Right. That's a lot of time talking about one movie. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. So here's what I learned after we recorded 100 hours of talking about Jaws. Most minute-by-minute podcasts, like the Star Wars Minute, are only about 25 minutes long. Oh, they choose like 25 particular minutes? No, no, no, the episodes. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Got it. We overcommitted. We, yeah, we were overachievers. So, oops. Okay, so am I reaching at this point if I were to just assume that Jaws might be a bit of a dream theme for you? You know, it's interesting. It feels like it should be. I've always been. Oh, my God. Is it not a dream theme for you? So, and here's why. I've always been a little trepidatious about it. Some of the artwork I'm seeing shows me why. But I just don't know how you take a film like that and make it a game that is in service of the film. Okay. Kind of like Harry Potter. It's going to, it's not. Is it because it's going to fall short of expectations? It's because it's barely an action movie. Oh, okay. It's mainly about, like, three guys on land having interpersonal drama about their masculinity. And then the last hour is chasing the shark. So I just don't know, like, this is, so as we're looking at the game, I'm assuming it's based more around the last hour than the first hour. Possibly. Yeah, so. Jaws 3D, is that your dream theme? I would love a Jaws 3D. It was freaking Dennis Quaid cocaine eyeballs multiball. The way George plays it would be an edge of your thriller. Constantly in a state of almost draining. That's how I would describe gameplay. Sure. Okay. So, awesome. We've set the stage. You know a little bit about Jaws at this point, so you can speak from a point of view that I would say no one else except for your co-host maybe could. Yeah, I would say that's, yeah. Okay, and one more time, your podcast is called? Let's Jaws for a Minute. A lot of episodes, and in fact, I... That's awesome. Okay. Yep. Awesome. And it's standard social media. You can probably find it on Facebook, Instagram. Instagram and Twitter and Threads. And Threads. Yep, and Blue Sky. Cool. And then while we're just talking about other things, that's not your only podcast. You have another? No, I have three now. Oh, my gosh, you have a third one. Okay. If it's the last time I've been on, I've started a third one. Okay. So I have another one called Real Perspective. That's R-E-E-L Perspective. It is not about fishing, contrary to what you might think it would be about based on the fact that I have a JAWS podcast. Right. It's about current release movies and TV shows, but we're sort of changing up the format this year. So stay tuned for that. And then I just started a new podcast called Let's Party with Marty, which is a Martin Scorsese podcast. Okay. He – I remember this one now. Yeah. Yeah. He – Not a fan of the MCU, first of all. No, historically not a fan of the MCU, but he joined the – oh, my gosh. What's the app called? Letterboxd. And Letterboxd is essentially Goodreads for movies. Okay. And he did a list of films that he considers companion films to his own body of work. and sort of gave blurbs as to why. So my co-host, who is also the same co-host as Let's Draws for a Minute, Sarah Buttery, we are watching the companion films, and then the next week we're watching the Scorsese film. Okay. So we're doing that. That is going to be 98 episodes overall, which is going to be about a two-and-a-half-year commitment. Okay. So that's the other pod. So I think it's at Marty Party or Party with Marty on the socials, If you find the Let's Draws for Eminent Socials, you will find the socials for the other show. For the Marty. Okay. The Marty Party. Yep. Okay. Fantastic. Yep. Awesome. So we're here now. Also, we've got to catch up on some chat. There is a whole bunch going there all at once. By the way, QDL, welcome. Chicken out, shark in. I'm not – so does this portend a rubber squeaky shark? Chicken, the rubber chicken out, a new shark is in. No. Never happening again. That is – yeah. That is done. Is that deep Don't Panic flip, Laura? Oh, my God. That is Jay-Z getting intoxicated and coming down here, and I have a rubber chicken. Okay. And she found every way possible to squeeze the rubber chicken into the microphone. It was horrific. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to go back and delete those episodes because they were so bad. Rubber chicken ASMR. I do. Yeah, exactly. I still don't like going out of my depth in the surf to this day. Kirk Hobbs, if you're being literal, I'm right there with you. I don't go into the ocean. I just don't. And there's been a couple of times where I'm like, I think I might do it. And then, of course, like a big shark showed up. And I'm like, no, that was good. I never will go into the ocean. I am scared of the ocean. I have no want to ever go in it. I'm perfectly fine admitting that and being okay. And Jaws did not help. Yeah. So that's the thing, right? It's very easy to avoid a shark attack. You just don't go in their house. Don't go in the water. Don't go where they live. Yeah. And so there's this great documentary called After the Bite. I believe it's on HBO. I saw it on a plane when I was traveling for the holidays. And it is about a fatal shark bite that happened in Cape Cod in 2018, which is roughly where they filmed Jaws. And it's sort of about how the community responded to this shark bite or this shark attack. Because this is a town that does, much like Jaws, does rely on people coming in over the summer to go swimming. And so it's like, how do we prioritize the safety of these people so that they feel comfortable swimming on our beaches still, but also not, you know, ruining this new shark population we have? Sure. Please tell me they double down on shark, sorry, on Jaws showings at the theaters and things like just inundate everyone with shark. No, not really. No, because it's such a fishing town that there's so much like respect between those two things that they take it like take it super seriously. Yeah. super seriously keep me pointing out that according to pinball news in fact the Jaws pinball is based on all four Jaws movies even Jaws 3D that's really interesting we'll dive into that yeah yeah yeah I was wondering about that because of something I heard in the story which is that it starts with them saying just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. That is not the tagline for Jaws. That is the tagline for Jaws 2. Ah, interesting. Okay, are you ready to watch the trailer? I am. Okay. Now, hopefully this comes through nice and clear for everyone else, but I have prepped a number of different browser pages to kind of just show and walk you through everything. By the way, Dice, welcome to the stream. Hi, Dice. Made it out of the show with two minor cuts. All in all, a fantastic time. We'll be watching the show on the ride home. Awesome. So Dice actually wasn't supposed to hang out with us tonight. He went to go see the Cottonmouth Kings. Okay. And I think partied with them. Are you down with the crown? Like, literally party with the Cottonmouth Kings. I'm surprised, man. It is only 1025 here that you are out. Yeah. So congratulations. But we're going to dive in. Yeah. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if the page is up for us. Oh, I ski-do. Thank you. Yep, I didn't disable it, so thank you so much. Here we go. All right. Oh. I'm sorry. You're good. Hold up. Nope, nope. I forgot to give... Yeah, I forgot to give MJ his headphones. Okay. Now we're ready. Is this the LE? This is the LE. Okay. Oh, this looks way nicer than the pictures, actually. Chum bucket. Yeah. There's the boat. A reel. Lots of wire forms. The chum line. Okay. Yeah, it's okay on the DMCA. Check out that upper playfield. Yeah, the Orca upper playfield, huh? The first upper playfield. Yeah. This shark will eat anything. Interesting drops. Houston, we have a problem. We're going to need a bigger advertising. Yeah. Wait, was that at the end of the Houston, we have a problem? Was that part of the stream? No, it was part of the stream because that is Vinnie Blank. I have a random sound assignment, and he randomly got assigned. Okay. So, yeah, that worked out like that. He's eating their next game in the end of their trailer. That's ridiculous. Okay, catching up. Stern is pushing out Jaws commercials to the pins. Oh, yeah, that's right. I saw the logo, yeah. Yep. So that's, you can see it here in-house. Vaught immediately DMCA'd, even though it's helping them. I still think they should have kept the shark that ate the ball. Any blank, we're going to need a bigger advertising budget. Bass shark is less than a hungry shark. Right. So, Pin Monk was hoping that there would be something that would actually grab the ball. Yeah. Yeah. That's the biggest thing I'm seeing that I don't necessarily understand. Is there not a physical ball walk on this? There is. Is that the speedboat? No. Okay. It's different. Okay. It's really unique. Okay. We'll show it. We'll show it. But I'm actually – hi, Hollywood Polo. Things went well. I don't actually remember what I ate for dinner. But – sorry, where was I going with that? I'm actually perfectly fine with there not being a physical ball-grabbing component, right? A, because those often break down or have issues. But more than anything, in this, Jaws is the bad guy. What better situation for a bash toy? Right, right, right. And on top of that, in the movie, you don't, it bites people, but you can't bite a ball. Right, right. Like, no human gets completely swallowed by it. It takes a chunk out of it. Right. And they do shoot it, and they beat it up. Like, I think I'm okay with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I, so my, yeah, my hope for a physical ball walk was actually not a shark. Okay. It was the actual, the upper, what is the upper play field, which is the orca. Mm-hmm. I was, in my brain, what I was envisioning was that being the main toy, was the actual Orca boat. Okay. And it would be similar to the building, and you would lock balls on the stern, right? That's the front, on the stern. Nobody ruin this for him, okay? Oh, no. Okay. Okay. No, no, keep saying it. Keep saying it. In the movie, they attach the yellow barrels to the shark, right? Right. And so he has them. Like, I was thinking that the barrels would be the pinballs, and they would lock in there. So that's what I was thinking. So it's interesting because it didn't look like there was any physical ball lock, but Keith Elwin posted a picture or updated his profile picture to something very unique. Okay. And I don't know actually if I have a video of that, and I don't want to show you too much right now. Right, right, right. So nope, I don't want to just go onto Facebook. Who knows what kind of random stuff is going to go up on Facebook. We'll get there. Okay. But that's really cool that you went that route. So you would expect some sort of a ball lock on the orca? Yes. Okay. That was my expectation. Okay, good. And my expectation was also that the orca would be the main toy, not Hooper's speedboat. Or not his speedboat, but like his fish tracking boat. That's interesting that that's even a toy in the game to me. Okay. Because it's such a minor part of the film. Like the orca is the main boat in the film. Okay. Really good to know, by the way, because I, just to give a heads up, I haven't watched Jaws in preparation for this. I should have, but I just didn't prioritize actually watching it. So it's been 20 or 30 years since I've probably – in fact, I was a kid when it scarred me, and I never went into the ocean. So catching up, premium is the way to go, says LambDiggityDangDog. That upper play field is sick. It is. And I want to go back through and watch the video one more time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe we can zoom in on a few things. Yeah. But catching up, Benjamin's saying, I'm thinking the pro is one of the best Stern Pro layouts in years. Oh, interesting. Okay. Now, what's interesting is, honestly, all of Keith Elwin's games make for fantastic pros. They do. Yes, that's correct. Godzilla was a great pro. Yeah. It's just that the premium was so awesome. Yeah. Nobody has the pro. Yeah. The pro version of Avengers, in my opinion, is way better than the premium. I agree. Because the premium doesn't work in many cases with the Captain Marvel ramp, and it slows the game down a lot. Yep. Iron Maiden, very good. I did fall in love with the Premium. Premium is better, but it's a perfectly similar game. It's a very similar game. Yeah. Jurassic Park Pro is great. Jurassic Park Pro is awesome. Honestly, now that I went Pro, Pro, Premium, I don't know. I don't think it was worth the extra cash. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I'm at right now on that. So, Pinmonk's saying they did that supposedly and scrapped it, talking about, I think, a physical ball grab. So, sorry. We are so far behind right here. Lamb diggity dang dog, I'm in the exact opposite. Stern pro premium splitting upon upper play field usually means very low integration ability in code. Hollywood asking, why is the shark toy so lame? Once again, bash toys are still cool, and this is a bash toy with a state change. It comes up from a – it's a cool mechanism. There's this, which is a ball, a multi-point ball, a ball into a ball. Yeah, captive ball. Captive ball. Thank you. with sensors inside that do cool things. So very similar, actually, to what we have down here under Foo Fighters. And that lifts up to reveal a bash toy, which is thematically appropriate. Like it's attacking the boat. Right, yeah. I like that. And so here's the other thing, too, right? If we're thinking thematically, like theme integration, you don't see the shark that much in the movie. No, you don't. And so, like, it actually makes sense to have the shark be hidden, this hidden threat most of the game. Sure. That comes out and you're like, oh, I got to deal with this thing right now. Right, like it becomes, yeah, yeah. It suddenly, it means something when it pops up. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, it's a moment, right? It's a moment every time the shark shows up in the movie. Yes. Okay, Dice saying they should have gone the Toy Story route and based it on Jaws 4, easily the best of the franchise in both cases. My second favorite Jaws movie. Was Jaws 4 the one where they captured a great white in like SeaWorld? That's 3, that's 3D. That is 3? That's 3D. I love that one. That's right. That's my third favorite Jaws movie. Okay, awesome. Yeah. What was number four? My fourth favorite of the four Jaws movies is Jaws 2, which is the sequel everyone likes. It's my least favorite Jaws sequel. I don't know that I've seen it. It's fine. It's a slasher movie with a shark. Okay. They literally give it a scar and electrocute it. It's ridiculous. Okay. I'm assuming it's bigger and badder somehow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it only socks teenagers in this one. Oh, okay. It is very literally a slasher movie. Okay. I mean, that kind of makes sense, though. Okay, catching up. Let's see here. All I wanted from this game was for the player to be Jaws. I kind of was in the same boat, actually. Yeah. Nothing like the movies. Right. But at the same time, I just would have really liked to have been a shark. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who has a pro and a premium coming? It's jumping around. Oh, Pinmunk, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Pro and a premium. Pro is really decent bill of materials. It is. The pro is stacked. Okay. And we're going to show that here. a little bit. Stern absolutely gives Keith a budget. Of course they do. Why wouldn't they? Sorry, who was the other guy that left Stern? Richie? Yeah, Steve Ritchie feels like he was never given a budget and constantly like, you need to pull it. You need to pull. He didn't get to do what he wanted to do, but Keith is just the golden child. He's like, yeah, you want extra money? Make it happen. No big deal. Didn't George Gomez say, you can be the shark instead? Interesting. I know there was something about that. Game Club Central coming in, dropping 100 bits. Marty, you are amazing. Thank you very much. Fantastic. The premium maiden is harder. It's just more fun, and it seems more thematically appropriate. Like, when that ramp pops up and the light pulses underneath, I do feel like I'm shooting a ball into the underworld. Yeah. Target Practice wants a Goonies pin. Sure. There's a lot of people that want a Goonies pin with you. It's only a cool mechanism if you're the shaft on a boat and you're calling the shark a son of a bee, okay? Bastoy apologism. It's mothering George. It's not apologism. I just think it's great. Vinny Blank just gifted a tier one sub to Pinmonk. Hey, Pinmonk, enjoy the ad-free viewing, the sweet emotes, and, uh... Level up. Jason Sturtz. I can't do that, especially after hurting my back. I'm very old. I don't know. But you got the yeast in your skirt. Thank you so much for joining the Panic Room. And thank you for the gifted sub. So, we're almost caught up. We're hitting six. I was going to say we're almost caught up, but we're really not almost caught up. I'm not watching back over there. I'm kicking by the bike over here now. See? Four was the one where the shark stalks across the globe, right? Yes. And in the novelization, the reason it sucks across the globe is because it is under a voodoo curse. Does anybody else have any specific sounds that bother them? Oh, wow, we're getting to level eight? We're at level eight. For me, it's styrofoam. It's styrofoam. Like, styrofoam rubbing against each other. Okay, didn't y'all listen to George Gomez in the longer video? There's some kind of shark person perspective mode. No, Benjamin. Amazing. Yeah, I didn't catch a longer video. They should have. But maybe I have that pulled up or we'll find it. Yeah. God forbid you remind them of ad-free viewing, George. I did. Totally. It was an ad for ad-free viewing. Yes. Oh, yeah. That's kind of funny. Goonies rank below Beetlejuice and below Harry Potter in the most wanted poll. That makes sense to me. Yeah, that is a great talking head video. Okay, we're going to go through this one more time. Okay. And then I want to jump into artwork on the cabinet right after this. Yeah. Have thoughts. So two captive balls, which is really interesting. Side by side. I love that spinning sound. Yeah. Also, there's that moving drop target. Yeah. Right? Kind of Oh hold on We just hit level 10 Yeah Yeah we did That going to come back though Hey check out that living room and all those records back there the coffee machine Look at all that liquor. Yep, gamer MVP, no looping, because we are not on that screen. But it will, we'll fix it. We'll get there. All right. So, first of all, look at this. You've got that thing lifted up. On the bottom side of it, there's a little bit of ocean that looks like reflective. Yeah, that's a great touch. That's great. Great touch. The shark looks awesome, by the way. The shark looks like it's stepped on a Lego. Is this anyone else? Are they reminded of that great meme? Yeah, I have seen that meme. I've totally seen that meme. That's hilarious. Okay. Keep going. okay and it goes right back in okay and there's oh this up here let's take a look at this play field so yeah yeah there's a loop that goes all the way around okay so first off radio great touch uh what does that sorry no no i know nothing what does that mean so in the film when they're on the orca uh brody who is conspicuously missing from this machine by the way i want to talk about that But he keeps going to the radio, trying to radio for help. And at a certain point, like once Quint is so far in his sort of like Ahab, I'm seeking revenge on the shark moment, he actually smashes the radio with a baseball bat and like essentially severs their connection back to. Oh, like this is it. It's up to him. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But isn't the boat sinking at the end? Yes, it is. Which is why Brody's trying to radio for help. And Quinn's like, no, this is personal now. And so he smashes the radio with a bat. Not very well thought out. No. Okay. Yeah, well, he's in like full-blown like PTSD mode. Okay. Also, the radio in the film is responsible for a Steven Spielberg cameo. Why is that? So at one point, Brody's wife radios in to check on them. and the operator, the radio operator, is voiced by Steven Spielberg. Oh, okay. Yep. Cool. So nice little fun cameo there. Yep. Now, I'm imagining, because if you look, I'm going to point at it, but if you can fall off the left side of the ship. Yeah. So when you fall off the left side, I'm assuming we're going to get to see a video of him busting up the radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay, that's one. And then here you can hit it, obviously, up the ramp, and it goes all the way around, and this feeds back down. and then there's an inner loop. Yes, with another real-looking mechanism. It looks like that is the steering. I mean, if I had to guess. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. That's the steering wheel. Yeah, slow ahead, slow ahead. Oh, nice. I have to be on this one in order for my mouse to show up. Otherwise, nobody knows what I'm talking about. Yeah, sure. The longer vid will give you better angles of the features if you don't have it up after it's worth finding. Okay. Gamer MVP. Oh, sorry, Pin Monk posted it. Oh, cool. What do you dream about? All right. Nice little Dave Chappelle thing there. Control C. We're going to come over here. That's good. Good. Yep. We get to watch an ad. Yep. We're going to come back here. Oh, nice. We get to see a little bit more of what's going on. Okay. So there's a back drain. It looks like right here. So you can go off to the side and it comes down. So this is, okay, so that's Quint sliding down the boat at the end into his demise. Okay, cute. That's fun. Sorry, I just wanted to pause this. Here's the longer one. Okay, we'll come back. Yeah. Got it? Yeah, that's fun. Also, the broken lantern I saw and the cards, nice touches for artwork. They did a great job with that. Okay, what's the significance of that? So the lantern is just, yeah, spoilers for Jaws. Spoilers for the 49-year-old movie. The lantern is just like at one point the shark slams into the side of the boat and the lantern falls and catches the boat on fire. Okay. So we see it broken. So presumably. Oh, no. Oh, no. Presumably thematically I would say the orca at this point is in its, like on its last legs, right? We can see the shark bite out of the back there. Yep. We see this, which is where. Oh, where that ramp comes out. That's the shark bite. Okay. So that is, this is just a destroyed orca ship. Correct. Correct. So this is post that. And then there's, so the, the, the cards is when they first get on the boat, Hooper is playing solitaire and Quint is climbing down the, like from the crow's nest and he goes, Mr. Hooper, quit playing with yourself, which is a really funny solitaire joke. And so I just, I like that there's a reference to that in there. Okay. Also, QDL has never seen Jaws. Ah, great movie. QDL, if you do not want Jaws spoiled, I suggest you drop off the channel now. Yeah. Because we are absolutely going to spoil everything about Jaws this stream. And we'll give QDL at least 10 seconds to make that decision. Okay, tell me more. Like here, shark encounter, encounter boost, collect bounty. Is there a, at any point, did they put a bounty on the shark? Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So after the second victim dies, a little boy named Alex Kittner, there's a bounty on his head for, I think, $5,000, maybe $3,000. And then later on after the final, well, I guess not counting Quint, the final victim, who's, you know, a nameless civilian, they pay Quint, I think, $10,000 plus basically anything else he wants when they get back. Okay. And so, yeah, there is a bounty on the shark for sure. Shark encounter would probably be just like the moments in the, like, right, that's the modes. Sure, sure. The moments in the movie when the shark shows up. Okay. And super jackpot, pretty standard. Right, right. And then you have, so this captive ball is going to be your, that's how you light your modes or your shark encounters. Okay. Right. And then I'm also seeing, like, there's the shark inserts, but then there's also, like, beach goer inserts. I'm wondering if that's going to be similar to, like, a rescue in Jurassic Park. Okay. And then there's scars. There's weird... It's very bloody. It is very bloody. Pin Monk pointing out that inflation would put that 10K to about 50K now for getting a single shark. Wow. I don't know how accurate that is. I don't feel like in 30 years we've amassed a 50% increase. Is that accurate? I don't think so. That's pretty significant inflation. Yeah. Also, QDL's good. and pin monk remember seeing jaws at the theater and when the corpse pops out of the hole in the boat the woman in front screamed and threw her popcorn bucket in the air popcorn everywhere one of the best jump scares of all time oh 1975 so we're talking 49 years almost 50 years ago wow okay okay uh chum bucket great i know there's there's chum what's the significance of the chum So Chum is Brody chumming off the iconic scene. Is he like not paying attention or something? Yeah, so what happens is Quint, because it's his vessel, he's the captain, right? And he's barking orders at them. And Brody is terrified of the water. He hates being out on the water. He's just this annoyed teenager, essentially, the whole time they're on the water. And Quint comes down and he's barking orders. And he's like, Chief Brody, keep chumming. Mr. Hooper, slow ahead, because Hooper is, which is Richard Richard Dreyfuss. Okay. Hooper is the one steering the boat, and... Wait a second, wait a second. Brody is meant to be a teenager? No, no, no. He's acting like a teenager. Acting like a teenager. He looked like he was 15 at that time. No, no, no. Yeah, he's the police chief. Okay. So he's chumming out the chum, but he's pissed off that he is not steering the boat, because chumming sucks. It smells bad, and it gets him closer to the water, and he hates the water. And so he's chumming, and he goes, slow ahead. I can go slow ahead. Why don't you come down here and chum some of this shit? And that's when the shark pops out of the water, and then he backs away, and we get the you're going to need a bigger boat line. So that's why the chum bucket. The chum bucket is huge. Yeah. Okay. The other thing I was thinking of, Dan's panda welcome. FYI, I left a cup of M&M's on the table for you all. Thanks, Jamie. Yeah. This little spinner has a shark on it. I'm willing to bet it's a shark here, and then it's a shark closer. So every time it spins, it's like, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun. That's how I would do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I wonder how sharp the edges are going to be from the bite on the sidearm on the LE. I was actually thinking that exact same thing. Yeah, yeah. Like, you might cut yourself if it wasn't done well. Well, I was thinking about that with the Texas Train Saw one. Oh, interesting. Have you seen that? Yes, I have. Oh, my God. Let's see here. So we are going to keep going. Yeah, yeah. So great. yellow barrel. Great, great, great, great. And this is what Spyro was talking about right there. Like if you go to slam it and you accidentally touch it with your hand, that could be problematic. Also, love the white armor. The white armor is great. So good. Yeah, yeah. I like the color scheme a lot. Okay, gear collection. You've got a badge, a flag. This looks like maybe some heroin. I don't know. That looks like the bat that he bashes the radio in. Okay. Harpoon, binoculars, oxygen tank. Not sure what's in the middle. American flag, helicopter. I guess life vests would be. Could be a bloody tooth. Could be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Harpoon ready over here. Harpoon ready. Okay. Oh, and a little post comes up. That's smart missile. Oh, there's one on the other side too. Okay. Y'all ever watch the Jaws Mythbusters? I've seen clips from it. I haven't seen the actual full episode. I have not either. It's not sharp. Hey, if anybody, sorry, I'm asking for assistance here. If anybody has a direct link to the picture for Keith Elwin's updated profile, it would be amazing if you could link me to that and realize that whatever links get posted, I'm going to show visually. So keep in mind, yeah, if you post something weird, you could cause a problem here for the stream. Okay, so Harpoon Ready and then Quince Challenge on this side. So the posts are two different things. Yes. Okay. All right. So I'm wondering. Oh. So what is that building? That's Quince Boathouse. Yeah, Quince back. Bounty hunt, collect gear. Okay. Wow, lots going on here. Yep, and then back here you have the, what do you have, a buck? So that puts it to the upper play field. Okay. But how that gets up there is a little interesting. Okay. And notice right here, there's a bit of a curve. Yeah. It's almost like they have a diverter maybe that can move it here and then it vucks it up. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense, right? We used it like a verb. Hey, Pin Monk's got us here. Okay. Ooh, that's a very generic URL. He said it's a direct link to Pin Five. Okay. Thank you. Yep. So I'm going to click that. Awesome. So they can't see this yet. Give me a sec. I got to copy this over. I'm going to bring this over here. Nope. Sorry. No, you're good. Awesome. So this is the lock on the upper play field. Life ring. Interesting. So the flipper comes up and it holds all three there. That's really weird. And this is on the upper play field. Also, by the way, beach clothes, this says light life ring. Okay. On that. Mm-hmm. And... You got Quint right here on the pulpit. Activate Fish Finder. Is that what this is? Yeah, that's got to be Activate Fish Finder. Ooh, Extra Ball was in here. Extra Ball, Bounty. Okay. What does that say, I wonder? Having somebody so knowledgeable who can kind of just guess, by the way, is fantastic. And I need to switch this back over here so we can see chat. Let's see. That's the lower PF near the pop. Oh. Oh, sorry. This is here. We're not there yet. Okay. Hold up. So let's see if we can. There's a way. I know Joel knows how to do. I can do frame by frame. I know how to do it. Yeah. How do you do it? Yeah. It's a comma and. Oh, yeah, you're right. It's the shark's mouth open. Called it. Called it. Yes. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. that's awesome that's great uh what i wanted to do is catch the right side because there's another flipper um right keep going back back back back back back there there is nope really can't see it okay we'll have to find another spot where maybe they they focus in on it well the life ring is the action button cool okay yep so it's it's comma and period or less thing greater than there oh yeah i wanted to see i wanted to see what these were okay that's what i thought yeah okay so it is light fish finder okay uh now what's this sorry is it like an actual standard fish finder like they yeah yeah i really wish i would have watched watch jaws i know um so hooper which is Richard Dreyfuss he has this tricked out boat which is the mode start boat uh mode start toy with the shark underneath it um and he has a bunch of like fancy gear because he's a shark scientist and one of the things he has on there is a fish finder and they use that the jump scare we were talking about earlier that plays heavily into that scene okay got it do they see something like oh there's something big down there kind of yeah okay yeah it's so funny too because i grew up fishing a lot so i know that uh you know 30 years ago the fish finders were very basic like you'd see some dots showing up on the radar and you'd be like, that makes sense. Right. Or it could be kelp or it could be anything else. But now they like drop cameras. Yeah. And just show you the fish. Right. It gets, it's insane now. So here is, here is the walk. Yes. Right here. Okay. So I assumed earlier when I got all excited that that was actually happening on the upper play field. Right. But that is not the case. That's happening there. But it looks like it's, it feeds down from the upper play field. So that's how it feeds that lock. Okay. Thanks for giving me that. And then the barrel on the pop bumper. Okay. That's great. I like that a lot. That's a really great touch. Oh, I did not catch. That is a single pop bumper. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yep. So then, yeah, you have here Quint on the pulpit with the harpoon. Like I said, Brody conspicuously missing from the heart. All right. Here. So Pinmung pointing out that you're hunting five different kinds of sharks. Can you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Thresher Shark, Tiger Shark, Hammerhead, and Mako. Mako. Mako, yeah. They call it a Mako in the movie. What? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh, the five-minute video goes into it all. Okay. Should we just switch? No. Well, we got to finish this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't just walk away from this video. You're going to need a bigger potion. So that's Brody, right? So they got his voice. they just didn't get his likeness i wonder if they actually just got we're gonna need a bigger boat perhaps yeah could be so it's it's weird they're they're weird about his image with chas stuff i don't know if it's a state or what because he passed um but there was uh you know neca the action figure company the like high-end like i guess they're not really action figures but they're like really high-end collectible figures okay um they're like priced pretty well They have a Jaws set, and they only have Hooper and Quint, and they announced Brody and then pulled the plug on Brody because of a licensing issue. Okay. So, yeah. So he is hard to license. Yeah, apparently. Okay. So let's see here. Booze Marlin. I'm interested in owning if the shots are fun and it plays fast. Now, this is a Keith Elwin game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm fairly certain it's going to be awesome. It looks awesome to me. Like, there's a lot of shots going on in here. So I'm, I'm excited. I'm way more excited after seeing it than, than I was beforehand, just based on the theme because Jaws didn't really do it for me, but I'm happy that you're here to talk about it. All right. You ready for the big video? Um, so I want to answer Dan Spana's question. Okay. Uh, a book just came out called the book of Quint. That is Quint, his life pre getting to Amity Island. So yes, there is Jaws fan fiction out there. Okay. Has George ordered a Jaws yet? No. In fact, I spoke with – my concern was Pulp Fiction is maybe still happening at some point soon. And I know we talked about this. As of right now, it's still slotted for February. And I – Pulp is a 20 – the problem is that I'm already – I already have sent a deposit. So I can't get screwed over on Pulp if Pulp comes up in the next month. And I have enough funds for one pinball machine. So I just can't do it. And on top of this, tell your JP, Kiwi, I have not gotten to what dinosaurs roam the earth. Foo Fighters is up for sale right now, and I have a new pin coming in on Sunday. Oh, wow. Okay. So I have all three of my spots set to go. Deposits are a trap. Stop it. But I understand from a distributor's point of view why if you want to guarantee that you get one, and I have a Pulp Fiction LE, I was very happy to send a deposit for it. Absolutely. Yeah. I had Pin Monk pointing out, you technically have room for four. Yeah, but then I've got to move all the pins around to make room for the streaming rig. Like, it's really excited, and Dance Panda's super excited about the new pin. This has been on her want list for a while. Interesting. All right. You ready? Yeah. So this is the Gomez video. Hey, everybody. It's George Gomez at Stern Pinball. And what you see right here is the beginning of Stern Pinball Shark Week. This is the Jaws game you've always wanted. It's got absolutely everything you can imagine. It's got film clips from all of the Jaws films. It's got an award-winning soundtrack with John Williams music. It's got custom seats from Richard Richard Dreyfuss. And, of course, it's got... Sorry, I've got to respond. Yo, we just got raided! Yo! Thank you so much for the raid! That's awesome. If you guys are just joining us, we have a new pinball machine that has been released as of technically it was teased on Tuesday and then it was prematurely released Tuesday shortly afterwards. Yeah. But there's a big release that happened today. It's the official release and we are reviewing it with none other than MJ. MJ, you happen to know a little bit more about Jaws than most. Yeah, I have a podcast all about Jaws. So there's my bona fides, I guess. Go ahead and what's the name of the podcast? It's called Let's Jaws for a Minute. It's me and my co-host, Sarah. And, yeah, we talked about Jaws one minute at a time, more or less. So Jaws cast. Yes. So that's where we're at. And Mothcastle, thank you so much for rating with all of those beautiful people. And ArborCat, thank you so much for the follow. We're going to keep going here, though. Now we're watching the long video for the first time through. All right, this is the pro. Oh, that was the pro for a second. Also, if you're not familiar, that's George Gomez. Oh, it's Cracker. You are Quint, okay. Oh, interesting. a chum bucket to put blood in the water. That'll lure the great white out. Is he really a bounty hunter? Firing the harpoon at the shark is just the beginning. Sorry, bounty hunter. He doesn't hunt people out on bail bonds. No, he hunts sharks. He's a shark bounty hunter. Is that a real job? It is for him. Audio needs to come up for the video. Oh, okay. Hold up. Actually, the audio is maxed out. Give me a second. Let me take a look at it. Hey, Moss Castle, thank you so much for following. Thank you. And thanks again for the great videos. A little quiet. Let me see what I can do here. Your epic battle against the great white. I don't know how to just increase YouTube. YouTube is maxed out right now. I'm going to frame by frame back. Yeah, yeah, go for it. I love that you know how to frame by frame. I looked it up specifically for this. Okay, this is great. Oh, complete trim line to light ready barrel. Okay, so your barrel, okay, it is your barrel locks. One, two, three, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, not with three on them you can't. Okay, great. Which is why they go, okay, okay. That's awesome. I like that a lot. SGC pointing out George is just a tiny bit quiet. Not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. George Gomez. George Gomez. Awesome. We'll try and be quiet here. Yeah. Of course, the Great White is the star of the show and the focus of your epic battle. On the pro game, he's shown busting out of a shark cage. And on the premium and limited edition, you'll have to fight to get him to come out from under the play field. The game features Stern's best-in-class technology, both physical and digital. With this added, we will continue to extend the fun of the game. You'll have all of the usual things that you're used to, achievements, and, of course, a whole new set of Jaws-focused quests. But you'll also have a new career system that we're introducing in the game which will allow you to enhance your bounty hunter rank as you play through events in the game. Like all of our games, Jaws Pinball has lots of secret features. We keep talking about how Venom is going to change the game. This is it. This is a tiny little bit of Venom. You're going to get some continuity across different games. So he's saying it's a career system, yeah, where you will be able to up your bounty hunter level game to game. Right. And whether or not that's some sort of an XP tracking system or if it's just an achievement leveling system, it really depends on how they actually implement it. Right. And I am so sorry. I can't think of a way. Oh, you know what I could do? Give me a second. I'm going to advanced audio properties. You can grab another drink while you're doing it. Yeah, yeah, you do you. I'm just going to bump this up by, I don't know. I'm going to bump it up to an 11. There we go. 10 decibel increase to my mic. Discover the 3D video mode. How's that? Is that coming through any better? It's the great white. And now who better than the designer himself, Keith Elwin, to give you a closer look at all of the features of JAWS Pinball. Oh, yep, pausing. You know that thing you do every once in a while where, like, you're watching? Okay, good. Yeah, and we got the levels up, so I figured it out. And it's no difference to us, which is fantastic. It's just the stream. But are you ever watching a movie? Benjamin, I'll go back, okay? We'll go back. Here we go. We're going right here. Yeah. But you ever watching a show and like you so into it but somebody leaves but you have that agreement that you pause and you aren going to continue watching it without them But you weren really Pin Monk just you know George doing George But you weren't really paying attention that they even walked away. You were so engrossed in the movie that you didn't pause it. So when they sit back down, you're like, where the hell were you? And then you have to go back and rewatch everything for the past five minutes because they went to the bathroom, grabbed popcorn and a drink, and they were nice enough to also grab you a drink in this weird simulation. This person's really cool who walked away. You didn't get me a drink, though. Oh, do you want me to get you a drink? No, I'm good, actually. I just wanted to point that out. All right, we're going to keep going here. You might want to flip the script and play as the Great White. Oh, right there. You might want to flip the script and play as the Great White. Okay, go back to what he says earlier. Oh, 4th of July is what the – oh, I see. Okay. You'll also have a new career system that we're introducing in the game. Yeah, from about here. Which will allow you to enhance your bounty hunter rank as you play through events in the game. Like all of our games, Jaws Pinball has lots of secret features. You'll have to discover the 3D video mode. And you might want to flip the script. So that, is that not how you pause? Definitely not. So the 3D video mode sounds like that is going to be a Jaws 3D based video mode. Incredible. Okay. Incredible. Do you think there might be an opportunity where this, like, becomes a slasher film at some point with a shark? I don't know. Glasses on. Yeah. I really, my hope for that is to see the iconic shark breaking the glass 3D moment from Jaws 3D. Okay. It is absolutely ridiculous. It's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen in any movie, let alone a shark movie. Okay. So that's my hope for the video mode is that it is the glass breaking from Jaws 3D. And you might want to flip the script and play as the Great White. And now who better than the designer himself, Keith Elwin, to give you a closer look. So you also got a better look at the gear. Okay, hold up. I'm going to go back here. Right there. Okay. Go back. Seen it? Or is this this way, this way, this way. So, OK, binoculars, barrel hook, search. So it looks like you collect gear to get to mini wizard mode. Maybe oxygen shark cage. Fourth of July. Tracker dart. So these are, this is interesting because it's mostly, it's mostly related to Hooper except for the, well, it's all related to Hooper except for the binoculars. I guess that's Brody. Oh, Quint has the barrel hook, but the shark dart is Hooper, the tracker is Hooper, the oxygen is Hooper, and the shark cage is all Hooper. yeah and higher peanut saying hunting the four different subtypes of shark allows you to get to the great way that's what it seems like everything like great white is the wizard mode okay oh light machete interesting okay so what is i wonder what that part of the playfield those other two inserts say okay is this a one hour stream for every minute of the trailer And now who better than Zazie Elway to give you a quick look at all of the features of Jaws Pinball. Oh, wait. We got a 3D billboard example. So I'm going to pause this. I'm going to copy this. I'm going to come over here. I'm going to paste this in. Oh, I've seen this. There's no way they did that on the game. No, I can't imagine they did that. That would be... Okay. Not this one. It's this one. Yeah. Continue. Ooh, it's got the shiny. It's the foily. Yeah. Steve Bellin, lead game designer of our newest pinball machine, Jaws. We wanted to bring you the Jaws game you've always dreamed of. Loaded with assets from the film, custom speech by Richard Richard Dreyfuss, and the iconic John Williams theme music, we'll instantly transport you to Amity Island. Let's dive into these game features. It's a sunny day in New Robert Englunds. Let's dive in. Plus one. So for Jaws pinball, you are taking the role of Quint. You are out hunting sharks. Oh, cute. Did you see? Hold up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did want to see that. Hold on. You wanted to see this? I don't know which direction it is. It was so quick. There we go. Okay. Ready barrel. Oh, pip it. Interesting. Wow, they really squeezed in a bunch of stuff. So then up here is your encounters. Attach barrel. So up here. Encounter jackpot. Oh, are the encounters your multiball, I wonder? okay collect what does that say collect backstreet boys yeah collect buckshot what is that so complete targets for these three things i wonder if these are the sort of um like the allies okay uh these are things that help so what's pippet pippet is a dog um so in the scene where uh the shark claims its second victim alex Kittner. There is also a dog named Pippet that goes missing in the scene. We do not see Pippet die on screen. Therefore, Pippet is not dead. And also, my podcast proved that Pippet is not dead. He appears later in the film. So Pippet is a chocolate lab, but it seems like Don't kill the dog. That's just a bad idea. So because of the question mark surrounding Pippet, it's become a meme in other shark movies to have a dog and not kill it. Okay. It's very weird. So when you say other shark movies, like Deep Blue Sea, is there a dog that doesn't die? I don't know about Deep Blue Sea, but both Meg movies have a dog that is... Unkillable. Unkillable. And it's the same dog in both movies. I see, okay. I see, okay. So then, okay, so this is Fish Finder as well. and so you've got something search light video mode cast and catch super life ring i wonder if that's your ball save and then super boys notice by the way this is another three targets on the left side kind of like the walking dead and avengers yep right so keith is is becoming more and more uh just obviously really likes these three drop targets yep also i really like the on this lane of Quint at the pulpit with the harpoon gun and the shark with the two burrows on it. Swimming away with the two burrows. Yeah, great. And then so that's his harpoon and something else, probably jackpots. And this is from the other flipper, so this would be a shot that kind of wraps around and does some cool stuff. Yeah, that's like the watch hour or whatever on JP. And Pin Monk's saying some of these questions are answered later in the trailer. Okay. So let's keep going. You are hunting sharks. You are collecting bounties. This shark, swallow your own. One of the unique sculpts on this game is a custom-sculpted chum bucket It's a kinetic sculpt. You bash the captive ball. You are chumming the water to attract the shark to the surface. And we have this cool LED effect of blood in the water. Use the mini flipper to shoot the harpoon lane and bring up the fin for a quick shot. Shoot the moving fin target when it pops up. To begin the shark encounter, bash the fishing boat until the shark comes up. That's cool. I'm sorry. It's not apologism at all. That is just awesome. It even looks great how it comes out of the play field. Yeah, it's rad. I'm really concerned about my fingers getting chewed up. versions of the game feature an upper play field themed as the Orca. To access this, you shoot what we call the Wave Ramp, which is a large 180 ramp located in the back of the machine. Oh, whoa. Once on the upper play field, you can shoot the Lookout Tower, which is the baby ramp, a horizontal spinner, if he goes and torques the steering wheel. And then, cast to Hooper's steering wheel, feed the mini-Flipper on the bottom playfield. Hooper drives the boat, Chief. Oh, you can trap it. I wonder if that's what he was showing, not that it's on physical lock, but just that you can trap. Special modes in the game. There was three of them, though. I mean, you'd have to be holding that for a while. Over on the right side, we have the horizontal spinner. It's a fishing reel. You shoot the spinner, and it simulates you reeling in your bounty shark. There are three multiballs, so you can progress through the entire story of Quint versus the shark. Oh, rad. Drop targets to activate the fish finder. Complete fish finder for additional modes and awards. Visit Quint's shack to unlock bounty hunt modes and gear. Duel in lane post. That's your nudging skills. Oh, awesome. It's got the thing. It's got the Indiana Jones thing. I love that. The narrow escape. Yes. That is so great. The pop-up for Sculpt is themed as Prince Yellow Bear. So we've got drop targets on the left from Avengers, and then we've got the single pop bumper, kind of like, and it's up a little bit higher, and it's nowhere near as aggressive, but also similar to Godzilla. Just want to point out there's some, I don't know if it's redundancy, or duplication, but there's some similarities. I'll give it that. Also, the shark grates are a very nice touch. I like those a lot. Oh, that's awesome. Wait, shark grates? Yeah, the shark. Oh, my God. I thought it was the Star Trek LE logo. I did not catch that. It was a shark. I'm like, how did we get onto a Star Trek video? Let's take a look at the features on the Pro. Okay, this is key because... because I do feel like these pros play amazing. Yeah, they do. On the Pro Edition, gamers will still have the experience of adding chum in the water to lure that shark out. Okay, the moving drop targets there, the chum bucket, you get the spinner. The shark encounter modes. Dash the captive ball under the fierce, great-like shark that's breaking through the shark cage. The fierce, great-like shark. Still got the third flipper. No upper play field. experience Jaws like never before in this kinetically satisfying, fast-paced, thrilling pinball adventure from Stern Pinball. You're going to need a bigger game. Is it just me or did Keith look forced into the you're going to need a bigger game? He hated that. By Groundhog Hammer. Yeah. What a savings. Yeah, that's exactly the energy he delivered that with. That is 100% how he said that. I'm not saying that line one more time. That's exactly why we said it. But the show must go on. Okay. Whew. That was great. Okay. Yeah, and thank you for that video. There's a lot more to uncover. Next up, though, I've got a few pictures kind of prepped. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, A, we've got artwork on each of these. Right. I'm going to start at the pro edition. Okay. First of all, Backglass, iconic movie. Right. Yeah. I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I get it. It's classic and amazing. Yeah, right? Okay, so for example, can someone pull the cover of the 4K edition, like the 4K disc? Of the movie? Of the movie, because they changed the art, and it sucks. It's so bad. Interesting. It's so bad, and they also changed it on the Steelbook, and the Steelbook is slightly better, so that's the version of the 4K that I bought, but it still sucks. is not good. Well, before you get too far ahead of yourself, the premium doesn't look all that great to me. Yeah. So we'll get there. But check it out. Shark Cage. Hooper in the Shark Cage. I love... Massive shark. I also love that they gave him the hinge mouth. That way it looks like the puppet from the movie. Okay. That's a great touch. And Booze, so you can play as Quint or the shark. That's what it seems like. Thanks, Pin Monk. Yep. Pin Monk, as always, you are amazing. We're going to come back in here. I'm going to grab this. Control V. Terrible. Terrible. Yeah, not a fan. Also, if you see it in real life, it is super pixelated. Oh. Yeah, it looks like a bootleg. It sucks. Interesting. Yeah. That sucks. Okay. Yeah, I like that. Front is the standard JAWS font and logo, red button, kind of great. So overall, what's your thought on the pro? Serviceable. Okay. Yep, it's fine. So now we're going to scroll down here. Let's take a look at this play field from the top. We can talk about, we'll start at the top here. Grab your harpoon and help Amity Island save the Fourth of July from the greatest white shark in pinball. Immersive film footage and audio assets from all four Blockbuster films. That's wild. Wow. Okay, right there, confirmed, all four. includes custom speech performed by Academy Award-winning actor Richard Richard Dreyfuss and the iconic movie theme music by John Williams. Over on the right, additional features, you've got the fishing reel-themed horizontal spinner. That sound I love, the ratcheting sound of a spinner or even a wrench. I'm very excited for that. Battle custom sculpted great white shark breaking through three-dimensional shark cage. is that is that actually the 3d is that a reference to the 3d it might be but the shark cage is from the first film but does he break through the shark cage in the first film yeah okay not through it completely not like not the way it's from here he actually breaks into the it's a great moment in the film it's actually like a reverse not a reverse but it's like yeah it is kind of a reverse because hooper ends up stabbing the shark with his like he has like a tiny knife that he has on him um but uh it's sort of like a reverse psycho shark or shark uh shower scene right so it's you know it's it's set up almost exactly the same way but it's just like a shark cage in the water and then the shark just comes out of nowhere and like boops the um the shark cage hard enough that it breaks it and then like tries to tries to get in and shake Hooper loose, and then Hooper's, like, stabbing it with his knife. So a shark does break into a shark cage. So I understand why they would do that. I think it looks a little lame. I don't like the way it looks. So Ty pointing out, what are the chances that Baby Shark plays at some point in Jaws? There's got to be a Baby Shark reference in this, right? Like, it has to. I would absolutely have Baby Shark playing, I feel like, on loop for at least one mode. And I would be disappointed if Heath did not find a way to get Baby Shark in here. Yeah, there's got to be some sort of reference at least. Yeah, some special mode. You know, kind of like from Jurassic Park, there is... The goat mode? Well, the goat mode is kind of fun, but the one where Nedry just says the... Just repeats the thing. Yeah, uh-uh-uh. You didn't say the magic word. Yeah. That would be great if it was Baby Shark. invalid mode thank you yes all right so going down here god so i don't know what to think about this moving drop target because in ghostbusters there's two drop targets that show up and you hate them but they're a lot closer to the flippers this is exactly thank you pinmon yeah this is just Drac Attack from Monster Bash, right? Okay. Yeah. You keep talking because I just spilled beer. Oh, shoot. Yeah, I took the words right out of my mouth, Pinmonk. Like, it's Drac Attack. I think it's cool. I don't necessarily understand the point of it yet. Tilt, baby shark. The target drops on, like, the coffin. Yeah, that's the only difference, though. I mean, it looks like it's more or less the same angle. I guess the angle's more extreme on Monster Bash. But it's the same idea, I think. I think it's cool. It's also similar to the deer in Big Buck Hunter. Oh, right. Yeah. Yep. Okay. So it's common. It's something we've seen before. It has Insider Connected. Is that surprising to you? No. Okay. And the custom-sculpted kinetic chum bucket toy with a Newton ball. Awesome. Okay, that's the pro. So edge-tripping in these playfields for the future. yeah 100 on that moving shark fin target almost the exact same moving that shark fin on the zen jaws pinball machine that's right spyro thank you all right moving on to the premium oh wow that art sucks okay wow that's not good positive and i was not a fan but i looked great from the side from like far away and now i'm seeing it up close that's not good the amity islands line is terrible It's from Quinn's perspective as he's getting eaten, which seems, I don't know, kind of gross to me. Yeah, wow, that shark is not rendered well at all. No sailboat. Yeah, there's not a regatta on the billboard. You get the side art with the – You get the classic on the side. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, I like that a lot. That should have been the freaking back glass is Brody with the – Notice you don't see Brody's face, though. You don't see his face, yeah. Yeah, no Brody face. Oh, I like this with the machete, too. This is a great touch. Yeah, the Orca theme, it's a good idea. I just replaced it with the 4K Jaws cover. Premium back glass is getting shredded on my – it's not good. Yeah, the premium isn't great, but what's cool is you can always buy the Pro and put that in there, and this suddenly becomes amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so scrolling down, now we get to see what do you get. Grab your – no, I'm not going to read that again. Yeah, yeah. Custom speech. So this hasn't changed, but additional features. You hit the motorized custom-sculpted great white shark toys. It crashes through the bottom of the boat. Once again, for those who are not a fan of that and wanted something more, this is flat-out amazing. There's no apologizing. That is fantastic. It looks awesome. and $100 for the pro translate at Pinball Life. He'll special order it. I've done it before. Okay. Cool. So if you get a premium and you really don't like that translate, get that. The motorized shark fin target with blood in the water effect animated lighting. Okay. Is it red underneath? Yeah, that's kind of what he implied is that as you hit the chum bucket, inserts are going to light red as you're putting chum in the water. Got it. and now here's the upper play field. There is so much going on. So it can drop off the back. It can go out the side and down this ramp. You can hit the loop. You can hit the inner part, and it looks like it gets ejected here, and then you can flip. There's also a target right here. That's the radio that we were talking about. Yeah, the radio. So there's a lot happening on this. Yeah, there's a lot of shots off that one flipper for sure. Let's see. Vinny's saying you can swap in the pro-trans light, but then it's kind of redundant artwork with the left-right side of it. It is. It is, but it's also iconic. Yeah, but it's, yeah, once again, like I said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's so good. That image has been associated with that movie for so long now. Nothing's different with the Chum Bucket. You get it on both the Pro and the Premium. Right. You do get the boat, ship's wheel, horizontal spinner, and radio stand-up target. Ben Gardner's boat. Oh, that's Ben Gardner's boat. That's not Hooper's boat. This one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So who's Ben Gardner? Ben Gardner is the guy who is the jump scare. Okay, I see what they're doing. So the head pops out. Yeah. Okay. Did that actually happen? Does it eat or does it jump through the boat? No, the shark doesn't show up in that scene. It's just Ben Gardner's, like, eaten head pops into a hole. So Hooper goes diving, and he grabs a big shark tooth out of the side of, like, there's a hole in the side of Ben Gardner's boat. Hooper grabs a big shark tooth out of it. And then Ben Gardner's body pops out in the hole and it's like his severed head. And it's like got an eyeball missing and it's all like really engrossed. And then he drops the shark tooth, which is like the evidence he needs to show the mayor who doesn't believe them that the shark is still at large. Cause they caught, caught a shark earlier in the film and this is our shirt, whatever. and they go and prove that, like, well, no, because Ben Gardner got eaten by this other shark. Right, right. Oh, you can see Ben Gardner's head underneath the captive ball on the boat? What? Can you really? Okay, we're going to have to watch. Yeah, we're going to have to go back and watch that. Yeah. Also, Mr. Nervtastic pointing out, once again, the cool Indiana Jones thing that we were talking about earlier. Great. Has anyone spotted a New Jersey license plate yet? It's not a New Jersey license plate. It's a Louisiana license plate. Louisiana? Okay. Yeah, yeah. It's on my tattoo. Oh, sorry. So you have... Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, I have a pretty... You have the license plate on your tattoo. Yeah. Hold up. Hold up. You all need to see this, because this is amazing. This is my 30th birthday present to myself. All right. Droid cam should be operational. Before I do this, I'm going to clean the lens. I didn't want to well actually someone, but. Well actually. Yeah. Let's see. All right. And there's that license plate right there. Yep. So fun fact about the license plate. The first three digits are 007. And that is because Spielberg is a huge James Bond fan. And at that moment, the... The flip side is going to drink to your arm. I'll drink to your arm. That's awesome. So Spielberg was a big James Bond fan, and he always wanted to direct a James Bond movie. And that was him kind of shouting them out because they were filming Live and Let Die in Louisiana at the same time they were filming Jaws. and so he put that in the movie to be like hey i noticed your movie maybe you slide one my way but an american director i don't think has ever directed a james bond movie so okay yep uh all right scrolling down what else do we got uh doesn't look like anything else anything else different i really want to find that severed head yeah yeah me too i i hope we're not being put in a wild goose chase. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for the L.E.? Yes. We've seen it a bunch. So this has... The mirrored? The pro... Hold up. So this is the mirrored version of the pro. Okay. I bet that looks sick. I'll bet that looks amazing. I bet it looks so good. Also, check out the side. The Chrissy. That's amazing. So that's the first victim, Chrissy Watkins. Yeah. So this is him eating Alex Kittner. This is not 4th of July. This is June 29th because Jaws is a time travel movie. um what sorry can you please explain that yeah so uh on the side right so uh i went to nantucket a year or so after the movie nice i'm going to martha's vineyard for the first time next year i looking through no you good so right here um chrissy walkins this is the first victim in the on her death certificate in the film her death date is listed as July 1st 1974 Okay. You scroll down. The second victim we see get eaten is not actually featured on this artwork, but he's a little boy named Alex Kittner. Um, Alex Kittner dies after Chrissy. However, Chrissy's death by shark has not been publicized. They've said it is a boating accident. um alex kittner's mom puts out a reward for anyone who can catch the shark that ate her son okay on the reward poster it says like five thousand dollar reward for anyone who catch the shark that ate alex kittner june the 29th 1974 for. So is it I'm assuming it's just a mistake. Yes, obviously. Or is there some sort of a story as to why they would they would make the girl's death later than it actually was? Okay. No, it's just a mistake. It's just a mistake. Because also in that same scene, when he's typing her death certificate, it says coroner's report, not coroner's report. Okay, fire the continuity. Yeah, there should always be a continuity person attached to every film. Yep. So this is this is the shark perspective edition, right? So we got sort of a standard, just like jaws stuff on the pro and then like the Orca edition on the premium and then the shark edition, right? This is very shark focus. Like this is from the sharks POV. Um, this is sort of also underwater, underwater, more white armor is just real good. Also, what's interesting is, does that mean that the, the Ellie actually comes with the special plunger? I like it. Looks like it, yeah. And it also comes with cool graphics up here. Cool Star Trek graphics. No change on the price, but the bomb includes more stuff for the first time. Yeah. Okay. Moving through. LE only. They're making 1,000, sequentially numbered. Also, oh, you know what? I've got some more information we'll hit up because there's now a bunch of NAP articles that I want you to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw something about that. Mirrored back glass. That is hard to say. exclusive great white powder coated pinball armor speaker expression lighting with jaws theme game effects and oh notice it's called expression lighting yeah i think it's just tied into the game yeah yeah yeah um and yeah that's what they call their art i wonder what's on those art blades yeah it looks like it's uh amity beach right oh so you get the no swimming uh beach closed let polly do the printing um yeah it looks like it's just sort of scenes from the beach All right. Ellie, that looks fantastic. Yeah. Ellie looks great. All right. So catching up now on different pieces of news. Okay. First of all, this is new as of two hours ago. Okay. Which is Stern is going to show off the first gameplay video of Jaws on 1.7. So we are finishing up on 1.4. Okay. I don't know what that means on days. Is that Saturday? Yes. Okay. Today's Thursday the 4th. Sunday. Sunday. Okay. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Yep. Show schedule and release timeline. Keeping the Jaws train rolling, as Nap said. Jason's amazing. And if you guys are not already subscribed to Nap Arcade, you should be. Make sure to go check it out. Set yourself up for notifications. That's the place to go to if you want news now instead of news once a week or maybe once a month. It's a really great news site. Sorry, there's a lot of different places to go. I'm not saying that it's the only one that's out there. Sorry, Kineticist would be another great place to go. So, geez, now that I recommend one, I'm afraid I'm going to. There's Twip, Kineticist, and Nap. Those are the three good ones I can think of. Let's see here. When you get a chance, scroll up to the boat where the ball is sitting. His head graphic is under the ball, I believe. All right, we're going to go back to the video and see if we can find that. Yeah, I want to see it get revealed from the ball bouncing around. For European folks, Stern is bringing Jaws to the Entertainment Attractions and Gaming International Expo. Jaws Pros intended for commercial locations will hit the production line first in late January so hopefully we'll begin to see these machines show up on location by the end of the month, fingers crossed because I really want to play this game awesome that was news number one here's a close up of the Translate for Stern Jaws' premium oh my god that Amity Island is brutal oh no that's so much worse up close oh no okay so what explain to me what's going on is this amity island sign not not correct yes so the amity island welcomes you sign is actually an advertisement for the annual regatta race that they have every year so it actually says amity island welcomes you and then it also says like something about the 40 oh yeah so yeah you can see it says like 40th annual regatta race but there's a regatta like back here that is just not in the art at all is there any way the machete is covering it potentially but i don't know the machete looks like crap wow wow that sucks yeah not my favorite not my favorite bit of art but i'm willing to bet that all three of them had the iconic translate at one point and then someone's like we need different art for the premium we're gonna do it yeah and also who's the artist uh i don't know it's like mike is something that's okay do they have credits on the on the website on the stern website uh oh Michael Barnard Michael Barnard. Okay. Check out this close-up version. It's an awesome, it's so awesome that I ran right over here to share it. That's the version of the game that I will likely get when I buy one. Okay. Some people love it. Not my favorite. I gotta, but you know, in the same way that I love the iconic art of actually of 007, I know 007 got crapped on. I I'm a, I'm a, I'm a fan of the retro side. I don't have it anymore. Right. Of the retro aesthetic. Um, I just want Jaws. I want it to look like the movie. Yeah. I know it's basic, but I like it. Yeah. If it's broke, don't fix it. Right. It's one of the most iconic movie posters of all time. This is the same thing. Like, this is, and this is why I brought up the 4K. Like, The Exorcist has one of the greatest movie posters of all time. When they released the 4K in September, they changed the artwork, and it sucks. And I actually added googly eyes to my 4K to make it funnier. Googly eyes on Jaws might not be bad. Yeah. If you get this, throw googly eyes on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take a picture and let's do the googly eye challenge for Jaws. I had a googly eye to my copy of The Exorcist on 4K. Awesome. Yep. Although I might add it to my Jaws. Now that I think about it. Here we go. Oh, the reason I wanted this one is because of the custom call-outs by Richard Richard Dreyfuss. Yeah. I didn't know that in the first video, but now that we got the longer video, this 1,000 units, custom call-outs. So that was the other big one I wanted you to know about here. Mm-hmm. To save Amity Island's residents on the 4th of July as the grizzled fishermen tackle the most dangerous ocean creatures on the planet, tension mounts as you see blood in the water from our animated lighting effects. Fire pinballs at the motorized shark fin. Yeah, okay, good. We're aware of all of that. So – Hold on. I'm going to copy link address. We're going to throw that over here. Yeah, okay, yeah. See, it's right over – Oh, it's there. Yeah. So if we go back. Oh, my God. It's just not there, right? Look at the font. Look at how janky the font is compared to the actual one. It's not even close. Nope. Hold on. She's not even wearing red underwear. Yeah, she's wearing yellow. She's wearing yellow underwear. Why? Is there a reason for that? Like, that is unnecessarily different. The only reason I would say that is because yellow is a very important color to the film, but also so is red. And so is the combination of red and yellow. So, yeah, I don't. Why? Yeah. Okay. Maybe there's a good reason for it. It's so different from the original. Why would they make those changes? Yeah. Sorry. Even sorry. Looking at it again. This is way more yellow. The thing that she's on, then it actually is here. This is more orange. Yeah. OK. Yeah. It's very, very different. That's a problem. Yeah. So one last time. The girl looks like a brunette instead of a redhead. Yeah. Yep. Definitely red hair there. Oh, definitely brown hair. Yeah. Wow. cnk you're a bunch of nitpicky James Piekarz it's just weird if you're gonna put the iconic sign in there why would you necessarily change it there's a whole scene that takes place in front of that sign right because someone vandalizes the sign by put like uh vandalizing a shark fin in there so like also why is that not the version you would put on the vandalized shark fin yeah if You were going to have some artistic license. Right. Huh. All right. One more time through. Yeah, I got to see Beck Gardner's head. I got to see Beck Gardner's head. Could be copyrighted for the original R&B. Oh, yeah, there it is. Oh, that's awesome. You got to do the thing. Go back. Go back. oh my gosh great that is okay i i mean premium le all the way just for that that is such a great touch that's incredible oh my gosh god this sucks what a great touch okay i was very trepidatious about this game but i am so on board now i i should have known to trust trust and now when we trust. I should have known. That's so great. This looks awesome. Yeah. I just love that they were that detail oriented. You know what I mean? Because even like you said, with the shark popping up, the reflection of the water around it, it just, I don't know, it's a long way from seeing the zip tie on the T-Rex head. The pro does have the boat. And so the pro may also have that same that same picture. I don't think we can... It's kind of like Sharpie markers. Like, I love this... Oh, hey, there was the light. Oh, right there. Yeah. You can see. That is all I'm going to see now. Yeah. Dude! That's great. Yeah. Well, not that easy. Oh, God. A shark will eat anything. So a shark will eat anything. Is that from the movie? No, but it's a variation of the line that starts with a hole. But that's a plant-borne analogy with the line that's Richard Dreyfuss said Hooper. And Richard Dreyfuss is the one who came in to do the custom call-outs. Okay. It did sound like David Gaibman, right? I was imagining Ghostbusters. Yeah, he is trying to do his Hooper voice, right? But he was like 27 when he was in that movie or something. Okay, I just want to point out that Richard Richard Dreyfuss and basically everybody in that movie, and movies of that time, like, if they were actually in their 20s, those people look like they were in their 50s now. So I think Richard Dreyfuss was in his 20s. Could have passed for 50. Yeah. Yeah, so here's the thing. If you ever want to, this is completely not Jaws related, but if you ever want to have it solidified that the single greatest decision we ever made for public health was banning smoking indoors, please go look up the ages of the actors in the pilot of Cheers. Oh, are they also all in their like teens and 20s? They're all in their mid 30s. Almost all of them are my age. I'm 35 years old and they all look at least 20, if not 30 years older than me. I am convinced that banning smoking indoors is the single greatest decision we ever made for public health because of that. Like, it's crazy. Yeah, don't smoke. Yeah. Here, in fact, we're going to go to full screen here. Everyone, don't smoke. Don't smoke. Yeah. Okay. So switching back, I just want to say it one more time, and I'm actually going to probably say it another 30. But I just want to go back here. Watch what happens. oh and it's mirrored it's mirrored on the top so that you see the reflection of the shark coming up underneath the what yeah i guess it's just maybe the metal but yes you can see the reflection you can see it that's cool one more time one more time for everyone who's like ah the bass target sucks that is fantastic right there so okay what's the problem with the bash target to begin with because um i think people wanted the shark to grab a ball i see right so think of it as almost like groot but we would be giving stern so much crap that we're oh we got another groot head we're like yeah well and then the other thing too is like for the jaws heads like myself like you're gonna you're sacrificing orca real estate for that and like that's the thing that i would want out of the game is the orca yeah if you if the options were give me a big orca sculpt or a big shark sculpt as the main toy i would go orca okay now on that note i think i know your answer but we've got the pro which doesn't have the orca we have the premium and the le which do have the orca as an upper play field right there's a pretty big cost difference so you're looking at like 6800 uh 9800 i think in 13k wow really so what are you thinking uh the price is a lot yes it is the price is a lot i mean money no object le all day like le is great yeah but i also want to point out that Venom has already dropped about 3k on the used market. You can maybe, if you're lucky, sell it for 10k right now. Avengers is down even less than that on the LE. There's very few games that are holding their value. Venom is not an L and that's a good point. But Avengers is, but Avengers is sort of the least liked L and it seems like. I think so. So, I mean, so, okay. I guess the real litmus is how's Godzilla holding? I think Godzilla's down. I haven't actually checked Godzilla in a bit. I sold high, so I was really happy with selling my Godzilla Elliot at the peak, which was awesome. I think I sold it at $16. Oh, whoa. Okay. I want to say it's down to $13 or $14, but I could be making that up. I mean, that's breaking even, though, right? Well, actually, no, because Godzilla was before the $13K price hike. Oh, okay. So it was $12. Oh, yeah. It's still some profit. Okay. Anybody, feel free to correct me on that one. $13K is a lot. Now, if you go premium, you have that crappy artwork. Yeah, but if I can spend $100 to get the Translight, then I'm doing that. Yes. Okay. So my thing then would be $14,500 out the door in Cali for Ellie after taxes and most places for Jaws. Ooh. That's a lot. Oh, yeah. Pin Monk. I think the only time I've ever seriously made money on a pinball sale, I lose constantly, especially because I don't keep the pins until they're worth anything. Right. I just like to beat them and then get rid of them. So pro, right? And talk with your distributors about pricing, by the way. Yeah. And this isn't even pinball. I so rarely ever pay MSRP for anything. If you get into the market to buy, here's another one. I have had multiple campers. I got a Class B now, which is a camper van. I've done the Class A thing for five years and traveled the U.S. I did a trailer. You never pay MSRP. So just don't ever walk into that situation and be like, I'm going to pay what it says I should pay. Talk to them. You typically for a camper, like a Class B, I think the MSRP on mine was $30,000 or $40,000 more than what I paid brand new for it. Yeah. So QDL, have you considered renting pins? That's what I'm doing this Sunday. So as soon as I can, I'm getting rid of Foo Fighters, and then I'm working with somebody local to start renting pins here. Also worth pointing out that the person I'm renting pins from is doing some cool sound and effects lighting kits. So I'll be showing off a little bit of what he does just to help him out. But, yeah, the addiction is for real. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I will be taking up, his name is Dave. I will be taking up Dave on basically a new rental every three months. So it'll be the new pin that we're getting, which will be a fun surprise, and then I think the next one I'm hoping to grab would be a Godzilla, maybe, for a few months. I'd really like to have a pro for a bit again. And I have the white armor redone. Renting pins? Hmm, where have I seen that before? Manu, welcome. We just finished, I would say, our very lengthy walkthrough of Jaws with MJ here. And if you just joined us, MJ has a slightly different point of view, I would say, than most humans on Jaws. In that he has a podcast. Okay, Manu was here, but just in case, I'll go through it anyways. He has a podcast called Let's Jaws for a Minute with over 120 episodes, each over an hour, dealing with each minute of Jaws. So there's over 120 hours of content dealing with one movie, minute by minute, more like guidelines than actual rules based on what we're hearing from MJ. But he knows the movies. And if you have been here for the past hour and a half or so, hour and 45 minutes, it was very apparent that MJ caught all of the Easter eggs and everything embedded into this game. And it seems like there is a lot. This was not a, hey, we got the Jaws license. Let's just make it work with a big shark in the middle. This is theme integration with characteristic immersion that we've come to expect from Keith and Rick Nagel and others from Stern. Right. Oh. I want to clip that moment because I said something really positive and I said it very well about Stern. And I feel like I whine constantly. But in that case, it was really good. Yes. Yeah. Also, thank you, RZR Random. Razor. Oh, Razor Random. Okay. I see. You say it how you want, but if it's easier to say it going forward. MJ has a real perspective that's been cool. I'm sure there's probably even do it better than that. Okay, so pro, knowing that you could get this one a hell of a lot cheaper, but you missed out on the Orca. Yeah. Premium, you're probably going to lose a grand or two if you go to resell it. And Jaws, Ellie, you're probably going to lose. I would, it's Elwynn, so maybe you don't lose anything. I would never bank on that, so maybe lose two grand on that. I'm going premium, but buying the Pro Trans light. That's probably. Premium with the Pro Trans light. Yeah, that's what I would do. For a couple reasons, right? Like, as, obviously someone wears, like, this is something clearly very near and dear to my heart. I have the water bottle. I have the tattoo. I have two different Josh shirts on. Yes. I bought a denim jacket to look like Hooper over the Christmas holiday. I have y'all's socks on right now. No one can see them. And so, like, this is something that is so my thing, right? And, like, it is worth it to me for the Orca as worth it to me for – does the Pro have the boat on it, or is it just, like, a generic bash target? It has the boat, the speedboat. Yeah, but not the Orca. Okay. Okay. And then, like, the Brody on the side art is also a big deal for me because it's the closest thing we're getting to having all three of them represented in the artwork. Sure. So, yeah, I think that's where I would go. Oh, interesting. So the Pro is the iconic Jaws pinball machine. It's the standard one, right? Like, it looks like Jaws. This one is from the perspective of the playable character of Quinn. Right. Right. And then this one is from the perspective of the playable character, Jaws, the shark. Yeah. Bruce. Wait, his name is Bruce. Yeah. Named after Steven Spielberg's lawyer. I'm sorry. There's a story there, right? So, I mean, I think the special effects team was just messing around and decided to name the show. I was like, what's the name of the shark? And they were like, Bruce. Yeah. So that's so Finding Nemo fans. oh my god the big shark the great white's name is bruce right okay nice the price on secondhand pinballs is quite troubling for new in box purchases particularly particularly for people like you george you turn them over so quickly yeah kirk i'm i okay that's what i thought major sorry no no no boat just on the pro just captive ball shark cage oh it's the shark cage it's not the boat yeah okay then yeah okay ben gardner head orca play field that's right that you're right yeah i i thought that was the boat it's not it okay so uh you hit this shot with the yeah that's just gonna go up there that goes up there i think premium is the way to go premium is the way to go on this one this probably plays amazing though it probably plays fine as far as like like shot flow and stuff like it probably like his pros are always well thought out but like as someone who like is like as much as i love pinball right like it's it's weird how uniquely suited i am to talk about this game in particular but like jaws is the first love man like above pinball right like i'm i'm approaching this game as a jaws collector more than i am a pinball player okay you know um i will not be getting it because i don't have the coin or the room but uh if i were i would go probably premium so zach reached out to me he's like are you in okay and that's why i was like i'm in on pulp fiction right pulp fiction is the theme i love this game looks amazing and now that we've gone through and watched all the video all of it i'm like i this sucks but i'm still in on on Pulp Fiction. Yeah. But at the same time, I am just like, I, I wish I had more space and money. Yeah. I would want both. Yeah. The other thing I'm looking forward to, by the way, like having you here to talk about this is so awesome. Oh, thanks. Yeah. This is, this is great. And what I want the next time when, when, when Harry Potter gets released. Yeah. Yeah. I want you to be there asking me questions. Okay. Yeah. Absolutely. There's only one, maybe, no, actually there's probably a lot of different things, but only one that would actually get made. And it's Harry Potter that I could have even half the depth that, that you've provided here tonight. And just the ability to answer every question that's been asked. And, and I love that. It's been awesome. Hey, that means a lot. Actually. Thank you. I was very nervous about this. I was like, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.
  • “The lantern is just like at one point the Shark slams into the side of the boat and the lantern falls and catches the boat on fire.”

    MJ@ 29:07 — Explains specific film reference in playfield artwork; demonstrates attention to detail in game's visual storytelling

  • “Spoilers for the 49-year-old movie.”

    MJ@ 29:04 — Humorous acknowledgment of Jaws' age and cultural ubiquity; implies spoiler warnings are somewhat absurd for classic films

  • “This sweater I got at the Academy Museum, which is the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, like the Academy Awards... they have the only surviving Jaws puppet hanging on their fourth story.”

    MJ@ 1:16 — Establishes MJ's authentic deep connection to Jaws IP and justifies his credibility as expert commentator

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    medium · Chat user: 'Pro is one of the best Stern layouts in years'; hosts affirm Keith Elwin's Pro editions are consistently strong value

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    community_signal: MJ brings unprecedented film expertise to pinball analysis (80+ hours podcast on Jaws); enables unusually detailed theme integration critique grounded in source material knowledge

    high · MJ's 'Let's Jaws for a Minute' podcast (80 hours of episode analysis); correct identification of film references (radio operator as Spielberg cameo, Quint PTSD, bounty amounts, etc.)

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    personnel_signal: Keith Elwin characterized as 'golden child' of Stern with substantial creative budget and autonomy, contrasted with historical designer Steve Ritchie who 'was never given a budget'—suggests shift in Stern's resource allocation strategy to premium designers

    medium · Host: 'Stern absolutely gives Keith a budget... Keith is just the golden child... Steve Ritchie feels like he was never given a budget'

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    announcement: Jaws pinball officially announced and available for blind reaction; based on all four Jaws films (including Jaws 3D); features dual captive balls, loop ramp, shark bash toy, upper Orca playfield, detailed film artwork references

    high · Visual reaction to official Stern announcement video and story trailer; discussion of confirmed features throughout stream

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    product_strategy: Jaws pinball uses three-tier strategy (Pro/Premium/LE) with distinct feature distribution; Pro noted as 'one of best Stern layouts in years'; upper Orca playfield positioned as premium feature

    high · Chat user LambDiggityDangDog: 'Pro is one of the best Stern layouts in years'; hosts discuss Pro vs Premium trade-offs on other Stern titles

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    licensing_signal: Stern's Jaws game demonstrates successful IP adaptation with detailed film reference integration (radio operator cameo attribution, bounty system, character jokes, specific scene recreations)

    high · MJ identifies Spielberg cameo reference, explains historical bounty amounts, contextualizes solitaire card reference to specific character dialogue