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That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over. I'm gonna need someone to help me. I'm gonna need somebody's help. Son of a bitch! Give me a drink. One more night. I just can't believe me. I'm a bitch, and I drink it clean. I'm on a drink-buying week. Welcome to the Pornhub's Pinball Podcast, episode number 97. The sloppiest show on the internet. Welcome to another week's edition of this shit. Drew, how you doing, brother? I am doing great. Tim Lee said he's going to be a little late. I want to give you a workshop, fellas. hey new subscriber hey thank you jaeger just subscribed so so tilly yj thank you so much i saw that clen re-upped on his subscription so gleno love you man thanks man that's six in a row for you you're beautiful uh tim's gonna be a little late so i'm just going to start off by saying drew really does suck at pinball uh and we will talk all about that in a little while so we can start to show officially drew sucks at pinball but tim will be in here to uh tell us later and for the first time ever he is 100 right excellent excellent drew how you doing man i'm doing good man yeah feeling good yeah i'm ready for uh episode 97 here drew has to quit the podcast guys he's no longer a poor man's pinball podcast guy he's uh he's been buying too much pinball the answer is yes yes but uh drew's been buying too much doge coins lately and uh now he's here dodge coins i don't know i've been dozing it up dozing dozing if that's a word you know everyone's making up new words this week so yeah i'm dozing it up he just he rolled on here with a pile of money and just said i don't need it watch the slap pinball watch the slap another paint on this wall another coat of paint on this wall you're in so yeah we're here for another week and uh yeah i'm pretty excited let's start the party hype train is incoming. Tony Scoots. Thank you for the cheers, brother. Scoots, Jay Sellers. Oh, man, we got a lot of stuff. We got a killer list of names here already. 26 viewers and growing. And everyone's asking about the tournament. We'll talk about the tournament. We'll get to the goddamn tournament. Simmer down, guys. Simmer down. We can make fun of me for the rest of eternity, apparently. Jesus, I felt so bad. It's awful. Should we get into this? or yeah let's just get into it let's open the bar all right here we go let's open the bar come in grab a seat the bar is open idiot rip of the band-aid all right here we go we'll rip that band-aid right off drew yes so tell me man what you drinking uh i'm doing some more what do we got here some more knob creek got the knob all right beautiful the knob that was up ian's ass right there it's in my drink now smells so good and i am drinking a fancy old style in a bottle because i'm not trash okay is that the the line there if you're drinking in a bottle it's fine so my daughter's birthday was this past week and we celebrated with the grandparents on uh saturday and I have all this beautiful beer upstairs and um I just didn't feel like it was enough the grandpa started drinking pretty good you know grandpa George is there oh sure my dad so I was like shit I better get some beer so I ran to a place called BJ's Liquor you can laugh if you want but it's right down the street and uh I went in the back room I saw this beautiful 12 pack of old style and I was like shit might as well get that got some Stella got some Boston uh you know, Lager and Sam Adams. I love. Hi, JJ. Kathleen and JJ are in chat. I drop all this beer off in the cooler with some ice, and guess what they went for? Man, that old style lasted five minutes. Every grandpa had like two or three real quick. Cheer one, cheer one, cheer one, cheer one, cheer one, cheer one, cheer one, cheer one in honor of Drew. Oh, thanks, Kaz. Thanks, Kaz. Hi, Kathleen. Hi, JJ. Good for the cheers. Yes, my wife and my son are in chat, so welcome, guys. And worse than do that pinball. All right. Okay. We're just going to get to this. Okay. Yeah, let's just rip the band-aid off and call this good. And then I'm just going to shut this thing down. For those of you who haven't been following Drew's adventures. So Drew decided he was going to sign up for a tournament, a pinball tournament held at District 82. Correct? At District 82. And welcome to his family. And some of the people, Tony Scoots, that was very sweet. Thank you for the bits. um some of the guys that were playing against your how many guys were there total uh guys and gals it was 85 guys and gals yeah i think i think it was 85 in the first tournament 87 something it was a little less than 90 okay and name some of the prominent players in this oh keith alwyn Colin MacAlpine uh rachel lilge uh who else is there ray day was there travis murray was there These are all top 10, top 20 players. So Drew was like, I'll see what I can do. Sure, I'll see what I can do. We had Betts here at the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast last week. What place Drew landed, many people were thinking last. People either won a lot of money or they lost a lot of money. There's only a few people that lost a lot of money. So I'm just going to turn this over to Drew because we talked about this yesterday. Oh, my God. I started crying. I'm laughing so hard. Ian said, I wish you wouldn't have told me that until tomorrow because he wanted a genuine laugh, which he's giggling already. Oh, this is so bad, guys. Speaking of which, I'm feeling great today. Skittles. Skittles. Yeah, I got me some eddies, some edibles. All right, anyway, feeling great. Drew. Go ahead, buddy. So I get there. You know, it's my first tournament. you know they lay they lay down the rules and the very first round i am in a four-person group with none other than raymond davidson so i'm like oh this is kind of cool you know i get to play against the number one player in the world this is awesome because i can see what this is all about and uh you know he's gonna kick my ass but this is gonna be cool just to watch him play and play against them so the very first ball it's a eight ball champ okay so the very first ball it comes out hits my right flipper i flip it right to the center target and it shoots straight down the middle immediately so i'm like okay this is how the whole day is gonna go right so i get like you know i don't know it was like 20 000 points or whatever it was so i think i think raymond was second so he jumps on the machine and he does something similar and he only gets like 30 000 points so i'm like oh my god they're real people yeah i'm like yeah they're real people and and right away then cocky drew comes out i'm like i can beat this guy so my ball drained in less time yes i got ready i got this so so you know the other two guys play and you know that the other two guys are halfway decent and they're you know they're they're winning at first you know ball one And then ball two comes around and I, I do, you know, this is a tough game. They're all set up really tough by the way. So, uh, some of these games are literally on bricks. I mean, they, they, they jack them up, you know, they take off rubbers, they take off posts. I mean, these games are, are, are set up very difficult. Um, and ball two comes around, you know, I do a little better, not, not great, but you know, no one's really doing well. I said, it's a tough game. And, uh, what game was it? Uh, eight ball champ. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. I'm, uh, early to mid eighties. I'm, I'm guessing. Okay. And, yeah, because this was a classics tournament, mind you, by the way. So it's everything pre-1991, so no DMDs. Okay, so Funhaus and before. All right. So Ball 2 comes around, and I do. Are you saying no alphanumeric? No, alphanumeric, just no DMD. No DMD. So Funhaus was like the last game. Got it. Everything before Funhaus. Sorry, I'm having a hard time catching up. That's all right. System 11 games. I'm here now. Solid State, EMs. DMs. It's all classics. That's what they consider classics. They were fine. So second ball, I do a little better, and I'm in the running. I'm 10,000 behind, 20,000 behind, but I'm there. And Raymond didn't have a great ball too either, and the other guy, they were doing fine, whatever. But then ball three comes around, and I ended up taking fourth place in that one but i think raymond davidson only beat me by like 50 000 points on this thing i mean it wasn't like a slaughtering right so i was like i got this so yeah once again i'm like i got this so it's it's 12 rounds and as we go on you know so then what they do is after the first round you know depending on your points that's how they kind of start putting you with groups and there was an odd number so the last group that's like in last place they get their group of three because there was an odd number of people and who was in this group of three uh well it changes every round okay so you know it's based on the points it just kind of rolls right so so you can say you did yes i see what you did there and you were with a 10 year old boy right yeah so there's this uh this one guy who plays there a lot he's pretty good uh i met him before we started playing and he goes oh this is my son james or whatever and and uh you know then went then like a couple rounds later I'm with this James kid. You know, he's a really nice kid. And I beat him, thank God. And so anyways, you know, we're going on. But all these games, like, there's no ball save. And it's one of those things where, and I'm not making excuses, but you know how, like, when you're playing, like, a modern game, you know, you're kind of loose in the beginning and you let the ball drain, right, because you're going to get another one, right? Sure. It doesn't happen with these. That ball drains, you're done because there is no ball save. Well, Drew. Yes. You also play with no tilt-bobs either. Ah, that's bullshit. I put tilt-bobs in my games now. Bullshit. All right, so everyone wants to know what place you took. Second to last. Who'd you beat? The kid. We're going to call him the kid so it sounds cooler. Drew could only beat the 10-year-old. Drew could only beat the 10-year-old. Well, see, it sounds like. Hey, good for him for doing it, though. It sounds like Tim Lee, you're making me feel worse than I already do. I'm embarrassed. I am, like, really embarrassed because I'm better than that. And, you know, it's not like you're always playing against the same people either. So I had the second least number of points, you know, and then there were only a couple people with a few more points than me. It's just whatever. I don't know if I can explain myself to you guys. so margaritaville drew what is your ratio of beers from good play to shitty play well he doesn't drink beer so how many cocktails do you need for good play to shitty that's a good question i you know i think i get better up until about four and then i start tapering down all right so max drew four cocktails four is super drew four is like best pinball playing drew of all time he's zen and out yes he's the shots he's lighting them up yes yes yes but i five cocktails fuck this thing and he wheels it all the way across the room when he nudges so i and i only tilted once by the way for the record hey great job uh halfway through this thing and this i'm being real serious here i thought about giving up pinball it was it was that bad like drew everyone listening to you right now i don't think ian the horror was on here we'd all join you we join you there there was honestly a moment tim lee just said it yep he'd be right there at the bottom I'm with you, buddy. I appreciate you, Tim Lee. I love you, buddy. Most of us would. But no, I'm not kidding. I was like, what the fuck am I doing? Stiff competition, man. It was a 10-year-old kid. Well, you beat him. He beat me on one game. Is that the game you own? That's the game I own, too. Yeah, mousing around. So, yeah, mousing around, I actually got to play on. And, you know, mine's set up at home without a ball save either. Jay Sellers, did you pay the 10-year-old off? I did. Was he here? I gave him bits. I was like, how many bits is it going to take? uh so yeah mouse and arounds there right and uh i happen to get on it so i'm like oh this is awesome drain you know a couple flips drain i think so so for the record at home my mouse and around i think my gc is like 15 million which is a pretty good score on mouse and around right i think i scored 300 000 points on this thing it was it was just brutal it was just so brutal so jay hall five four, four, six. Poor man. I suck at pinball. Jack Rabbit, cheers. Thank you, man. I appreciate the bits, Jack Rabbit. And you know what's really interesting? So then, after I was done... Dave Jeff Brenner. See? Age doesn't matter much. Kids can be better than adults. I believe that. Yeah, but I'm not taking anything away from this kid, Dave. He wasn't good. And he beat me. No, he's 10. He's been playing for like two months. Okay. You know, I play every day, so it wasn't about the kid. Damn. Sounds like someone should quit I'm so done I'm giving it all up today this is my retirement speech we all know he's not going to be a competitive player Mike Williams says my daughter routinely kicks my butt um but she probably plays a lot right Mike Tony Scoots when the pressure's on it gets hard man it is this that's what she said so when when I when we finish up right Glenno you're what did you miss well Drew came in second to last place uh last place he knows was a 10 year old and we're just trying to make our buddy feel better saying we would we wouldn't do any better i know i wouldn't do better you'd have beat me i should have gone i third little last so i've had how i might have been last i've had a year old probably could have kicked my ass i've had several days to process this now and it's processing it does need processing and i'm back in the game okay and so you haven't quit pinball not yet all right and i'm uh i'm excited about x folks i want to play with some tribe members but what i was trying to say we should get them in another tournament if you want them to quit all right go ahead sorry uh so a couple couple a couple positive takeaways um so yeah after we're done with this i start playing some of the modern games and i'm so i'm i'm playing angry you know they say play angry and i'm i'm hitting shots like i'm hitting ramps like 10 times in a row because i'm just so mad at myself and i'm like i can do this and i keep hitting the same ramp 10 times in a row and i'm like why the fuck couldn't i do this while i'm playing in this classics tournament right so i'm just i'm just whatever i'm fuming but uh i do want to say like being there with rachel was super awesome yeah yeah rage play thanks rachel rachel was the best first of all i got to give her big old hugs which was just awesome and uh we we spent we actually spent quite a bit of time together that day which was really cool and she's coming into town uh tomorrow and she's going to meet kathleen and jj it's gonna be really cool so i'm excited about that um but yeah being there with rachel was super cool i got to stand two feet away from Keith Elwin while he was playing mousing around and watching that guy like watching ray day play it was like okay and i played against him i was like you know it was just like playing somebody else keith alwyn really is on another level just just his his focus and the way he does things it's it's amazing you're saying just the way you move yeah yeah just just watching he has like these little you know these twitch micro nudges yeah we've all seen it like on video and maybe you have seen him in person but like i stood there and i was like i was in awe i'm just staring at him watching this and it was just it was different than watching even other top players it was just mesmerizing almost so it was it was very cool to see that and then uh the funny story before we started i i went up to keith and i said hey keith i'm uh i'm drew with the poor man's pinball podcast he shook my hand and he goes oh i listen to you guys and i was like oh that's cool you listen to our train wreck he goes then he follows it up and just just breaks my heart he goes yeah i listen to all the podcasts i was like Like, really, Keith? You couldn't just leave it at I listen to you guys sometimes? That would have just been a cool walk-off. I'm a big fan. Yeah, love the show. That would have been an awesome walk-off moment. Even if he had never. Even if he had never. He could have just made your day. He probably doesn't. Keith Elwin, are you listening? No, you're not, Keith. I'm sorry, Keith. Keith, congratulations. Did Keith win? No, Eric Thorin won. Eric Thorin? The owner of District 82. Look at you, Eric. You set it up just so you could win. Well, Eric won the Classics Tournament. Keith Elwin took second. and then the second tournament which i wasn't there for that was like the the standard you know match play with the modern games uh keith owen also took second and gleno or someone else who took first in that uh rachel who was first in that uh one anyways rachel rachel finished i think like 20th or something yeah she did she did really well way to go rachel and someone had to support the thank you yeah man uh oh ray day so so raymond davidson won the target match play uh tournament cool uh rachel she gets so mad at herself she was madder than i was and she was doing well in my opinion i'm like what are you doing rachel you're actually beating people here i did have one shiny moment that i'm gonna brag about because this it was awesome so we get to Earthshaker, right? Because that's an alphanumeric. I love Earthshaker. I want one, right? Right. Ball one, I get four million, which a good score sometimes in a game is three million. I blew this thing up on ball one. Once again, I was rage playing. This was towards the end. And I'm like, that's how it went. For those of you listening, it's not pretty over here. Nope. I'm scared sitting here. It's a very animated day. So I'm playing with the kid again. And this other guy who's like, you like that? Yeah. You like that? Yeah. So I'm playing with the kid and this other guy. That's him flipping for you to listen to. I said to the other guy, I said, are you playing a lot of tournaments? He goes, no, it's my first one. I'm like, oh, me too. And then I go, oh, how long have you been playing pinball? He's like, oh, like two months. And I'm like, okay, I got to kick these guys' asses. You should have been like, me too. And I did. I wiped the floor with that kid and that newbie. It was awesome. well you know uh moderataville anyone asked for my autograph that was the other thing i really want to mention all seriousness there were a handful of people that i met uh rachel introduced me some great people up there at district 82 and there were several people wearing our gear how cool how cool is that very cool like this is the first time we went somewhere that uh we weren't the ones wearing the gear yeah although i was wearing our gear yes of course representing Of course. I was wearing this hoodie, actually. I really wish you weren't. Ian calls me up. Hey, Drew. What? Can you take off the hoodie, please? Yeah, get one of those TurboGrafx-7 shirts. Just talking with you, Dave. So it was really cool to see that, and I met these really awesome people. And I know you guys have been posting pictures, but I'm saying we had COVID and stuff, and we haven't been out to shows. So it was just really neat to see someone in public. Yeah. And people I didn't know. Yeah, right. It'd be cool at Expo. That's what was the best part. To watch all those PazCast shirts. I wouldn't be so mad. Because Rachel said, hey, this is... You know everyone's going to wear those limited edition shit shirts that I hate so much. Because Rachel said, oh, this is Matt. And he's wearing the skull and crossbones. And I'm like, this is so cool. Like, you are wearing our shit. Yeah. It was just awesome. So it was a cool moment. And yeah I liked it And Jay Sellers would I do it again Yes Oh sorry Rachel I met Michael Ryman before He actually won a Hobbit play field from Zach Manning in Flippin Out And he lives in Green Bay. He drove to meet me because when I dropped off the Avengers with Bill Webb, he gave me – it was a whole thing, but I met him then. So very cool. But anyways, yes. How are the edibles? Feeling fine. he's listening to me i have no idea what's going on uh yes i will do it again uh i need rachel so you continue to hold my hand i need to get better at pinball um i'm committed to practicing my nudging and my flipper skills and i'm going to try not to get all shitty about it no you should be shitty about it that's called competitive nature man competitive nature true enough true just don't take it to the next level don't be kicking little kids and spitting in their face Just be professional. Should I apologize to his dad then? Be professional, I'm saying. Well, no, I already kicked him. Yeah, I know. I know what you're saying. You see what I did there. I'm just skipping past that. Be professional. Tighten your tilt up at home? Never, Mike Williams. Home is for fun. Tighten it? You mean throw those tilt bobbers back in? Yeah. What is this thing? Must go in the garbage. I don't know what this piece is. Drew's like, they're in the machine, yeah, but the coin box doesn't count, brother. You've got to set it up in there. Yeah, it's in the plastic baggie that it came with. How come they're all wrapped in electrical tape? I don't get it. Yeah, that's weird. I don't know how this shit works. I don't get it. So, yeah, very cool. Post the giving the bird. Oh, yeah, Rachel took this great picture of her and I. We will get that up at some point. Yeah, we had some cool pictures there. A really good time. and yes, I will go back and do it again. Very, very excited to play some more pinball. But Ian's right. I will never be a competitive player, and I'm okay with that. I need to have fun with pinball. It doesn't mean that I'm right. You can still be fun and have competitive pinball. Absolutely. Well, see, I want to compete with my friends. Does that make sense? He just wants to beat me, you guys. Well, there's that, too. He has yet to beat me on Deadpool. so yeah that's true no that is true you beat me um all right so what else we got should we do the news yeah let's have today buddy well we already did most of our tribe news uh the only thing i wanted uh uh joe hood he is 46 years old a couple days ago the old so he's been a tribe member for 46 years and uh josh mudd he had a birthday last week josh mudd he's also an old man we're Happy birthday, Joseph. I like to call you Joseph. Tribe member multiball with Rachel and Tim, episode four. I can't believe they have four episodes up. We were talking about that. They're moving. Clip, clip, clip. Take it easy or you can get burned out. This is crazy. They did it with Kaz. So Kaz was the special guest. Nice. I didn't listen to this one. I am really enjoying learning about the tribe members. Because like I said, I don't know all you guys very much. Because some of you guys I talk to all the time and some I don't talk to enough. But very cool, so check it out. Tribe Multiball with Rachel and Tim. I learned a lot about COS, and it was just entertaining, and they had some good stuff and just some kind words for us and the tribe. It's just kind of an extension of the community. It's very cool. So check that out, please. What else? What did you do on pinball this week, Ian? because I got a few more things, but I want to know what you did. No, go ahead, man. So we talked about the tournament. We're going to pretend the tournament never happened, except that I hung out with Rachel. My pinball bar studio, basement's all cleaned up. Now I'm getting ready to start finishing. I'm going to start painting the walls and putting up some drywall, and I'll be posting pictures about that. And I'm really excited because I am going to be getting some brand new pins. Oh, yeah? Yeah. So, okay. I have a list here, as I often do. Let's play a little this or that, guys. How's that? Hey, it's my game for the week. What do you know? We got breaking news here. What's that? Break away. Important notice. Attention pinball enthusiasts. A number of Led Zeppelin limited edition games were stolen in transit in Melbourne over the recent Easter long weekend. The incident was captured on CCTV and police were notified as such. There is an ensuing criminal investigation. Please take note of the serial numbers below. We would hate for any enthusiast to buy any stolen property as there may be criminal or legal consequences. If you have any information, blah, blah, blah. please feel free to share one two three four five games got stolen oh that sucks yeah dude that's crazy and that metallica got stolen like a couple weeks ago is this is this a new trend oh yeah i hope no one breaks into my house steals my shit they can have meteor though so it wants to come and steal that piece of crap yeah so yeah breaking news all right breaking news breaking news okay so let's play a little this or that okay so i got to play actually all of these games except for one at uh district 82 so i actually spent quite a bit of time on it um walking dead is not on here because i just will be getting that game one way or the other because uh that game's just freaking awesome and in every possible way so what would you okay in chat ghostbusters premium or the shadow shadow you didn't even hesitate no the shadow is a way better game i had a lot of fun with ghostbusters premium yeah you want to ghostbusters i had a lot of fun with shadow though too yeah their shadows amazing it is it is they're both really really nice so let's see we got gb premium gb premium gb premium gb premium oh worth way more Yeah, they are worth way more. Yeah. No, we're not talking about price here. I'm just saying I'm getting one or the other. Dr. John says Shadow. Leib, neither. Good for you. Have you played Sopranos? Yes, I have played Sopranos. Josh Mudd. Fun game, but not for me. Ghostbusters Premium. Some Shadows. A couple Shadows. Mostly Ghostbusters Premium. Okay. Well, I'm looking... Some of you guys like those big gaps, I guess. Whatever. I'm looking for both. We'll see which one pops first. Okay. Then the other would be Swords of Fury or Earthshaker. Two system 11 games. Earthshaker? Wait. Swords of Fury or Earthshaker? Earthshaker is a better game. I say it's a coin toss. Swords of Fury is a very, very, very. We got one, two. We got Earthshaker. It's coated. You get sick of it. Earthshaker, Earthshaker, Earthshaker. Ooh, everyone's on Earthshaker. oh dr john dr john's the odd man out on all of them dr john thinks i should get the shadow and swords of fury jack rabbit said lion man josh josh josh josh mud always the oddball heavy metal was fun good man yeah i saw those pictures you're that was very that was very cool you played it no no but i saw i saw those pictures and we played a lot of pinball yeah yeah there was a lot of good games. Cod says Swords of Fury. Don't get me wrong. I love Swords of Fury. Dave, Swords of Fury is a better theme. I agree with that. It's a very cool theme. I disagree. I think the theme is better than Swords of Fury. That's what he said. Oh. He said Swords of Fury is a better theme. I agree with that. Earthshaker. No, no. It's kind of like dialed in. Ba-dum-bum. Disaster. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I had. And then today I was just talking to a guy about a Popeye. I know how Ian feels about Popeye. Eh. never played one i don't i don't have a thought no no thoughts no opinion if you have thoughts about what i think of it that i would like to know how how i feel about popeye and then and then god says shadow and swords of fear would be the cheapest option yeah i'm not looking for the cheapest here i just i want i want a couple of good games in the house popeye is huge popeye 2000 yeah tony scoots i wish they're not going for two grand anymore this guy quoted me something ridiculous today and i actually right for the podcast i told him it was it was too much what's the ridiculous price uh he was asking like 3,600 i think um no they're they're it's a three thousand dollar pin i mean popeye or gilligan's island oh popeye gilligan's island oh really popeye's or gilligan's island oh 50,000 doge coins well lee i have a hundred thousand right now so So let's let it ride and see. Hey, if it goes the way it keeps going, I'll be able to buy a Pirate CE. I'd take Gilligan's Island over Popeye. Really? It shoots better. Popeye doesn't look like it shoots very well. See, people say that, but Gilligan's Island is just a one-trick pony, though. And Popeye is this multiple-trick pony? One-trick pony. One trick versus one trick. Why do you got to ruin all my hopes and dreams, Ian? I'm not ruining anything. I'm just like, you know, I got to be the counter. I'm the counter to your, I'm the peanut butter in your jelly, baby. Yeah, Gilligan's Island, I've played enough of that, and it's, no, it's okay. But, yeah, it's just not something I'm, oh, Rocky and Bullwinker never gets any love. You're right, Josh Mudd. I like Rocky and Bullwinkle, actually. I like the cartoon, and I like the pin. Mike Williams walked away on the second ball of Popeye. That's an endorsement. he's like what get your popeye at flipping out pinball he plunges and goes what the hell is this shit no he plunged ball drained he plunged ball drain and then he said no that was that was me oh you that was me drain drain drain so that's right anyways all right what else we got uh we got some news let's do our news news this weekend brought to you by this weekend pinball um haggis pinball haggis why don't you do it haggis pinball what'd they do today on facebook oh they released a video they finally updated us and dr john who's in chat today his game's all boxed up ready to go so extremely cool super excited for you dr john very very cool yeah you got some cheese slices for dr john but knock is pinball getting number one out the door congratulations damian And you are one of the coolest people in pinball. So couldn't be happier for you guys. So Haggis Pinball has more games in the world than Deep Root. Deep Root, yeah. Isn't that awesome? That's great. Very cool. Gotta love that shit, right? Very, very cool. So Haggis Pinball, way to go. You're beating Deep Root. I love that. It is so cool. It's such a, you know, think about it. Next week he helps. All right, man. Cool. Deep Root has millions and millions of dollars, right? Damien is one of us. he's he's a man of the people he just worked hard saved some money he's doing his thing right yeah and he got a pinball machine out in the world beautiful man very cool i love it great couldn't be happier couldn't have it do a nice you like damien's hair love damien's hair it's a lot of locks isn't it it's a lot to love there i'd like to touch i touched it a little bit did you expo did you i stole i stole a lock to Damien's hair. You're like, Damien, what's that over there? Yoink, yoink. Run away. Took a little scissors. Cuddle up to it at night. Smells like emu oil. Emu oil. Oh, Josh just brought up a good question. Josh Mudd. What would be the chance Todd Tuckey would do a dual stream with you guys? I love me some Todd and his YouTube channel. I think Todd would do a little something with us if we asked him. Yeah. He likes us we have we have some cool pictures at uh expo from two years ago i don't know do we really oh yeah yeah it's me you and him well i understand they're taking video of us hanging no no we have some pictures we're all like being goofy it's like this shot of us being like super goofy oh i don't remember i wasn't taking it someone took i think it's in my phone yeah or it's on our facebook page or something i'll find it um i've seen it many times that's right no i didn't know it exists i'm excited to look at it you know at work um true story at work now i have almost as many pictures of you as i do of my wife because i got this you know i got the cubicle now right which i've never had so you know i just i got a bunch of pictures printed them off from my phone you know like five cents a piece or whatever so i did it and uh one of the other agents comes over and she goes oh tell me about your wall here and she goes who's that i'm like that's my wife and then she goes who's this guy that you have like 28 pictures of and i'm like oh that's my head That's my hetero life partner, Ian. And she started kind of giggling, and she goes, you're straight, right? And I'm like, eh, sometimes. Straight enough, bitch. Damn. Just throw that out there. Gosh. Yeah, it was pretty funny. I just introduced my wife, lady. Yeah, I got my dogs and Ian and then a couple of my wife. Feels good to be loved. Todd is a great guy, Scoots. You are correct. Oh, yeah, Todd was great with us. Todd Tucky does take the best pictures, Lee. Yeah, Todd, he's just that goofy guy. He's like your goofy uncle that, you know, you just. Uncle Todd. Uncle Todd. We're going to call him Unky Todd. Unky Todd. Unky Todd, that's your new nickname. We love him. That guy. You know, Kaneda said it, and I was like, they really do need to do this. And Lifetime Achievement Award. Yeah, yeah. He would be first in line, right? It'd be him. For media? Pinball. It'd be him, Steve Ritchie. You'd have to do media. Oh, here we go. Lifetime Achievement Award. Who would we do in pinball? Just in general? What are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah, Steve Ritchie, John Borg, Todd Tuckey. Yeah, yeah. George Gomez. George Gomez would be another great one. Cameron Cowell. You'd have to get... You'd have to put Gary Stern in there. Stern in there. Yeah. Gary's dad. Freaking Roger Sharp. There's a ton of people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's some... Yeah. You're talking like, what? Most of those guys... Barlow? 40 years, Barlow. What's Chris... What's Canadian's dog's name? Oh, Bubba. Bubba? Barlow? Both of them fuckers. Bubba's got four twippies. Yeah, Bubba. Jeff Patterson should send Bubba fucking five twippies just to fuck with Chris. Best pinball dog. Don't make Chris talk about it. Yeah, you might as well just get five Twippies. Oh, that's too good. Just to piss off the owner. So this was from like a week or two ago, but we forgot about it last week because this is part of my notes that got deleted. I figured out how to get it back. Awesome. The Home Pin, do you see this? The Home Pin wrapped up a pin and then kind of shot a teaser picture. It looks like a washing machine. We shipped our very first made-in-Taiwan Home Pin pinball machine, and everyone's like, what the heck? This was on Twip. It was, um, so then, uh, you know, no one knew what was in there. And then this week they posted like this picture of, um, I think it was Corvette decals. Okay. And they said something like they couldn't ship it with the decals on because it was something about customs. Cause you know, there's all these like weird rules and stuff. Sure. Sure. So, um, check it out this week in pinball, but, uh, yeah, home pin shipping pins. Go figure. Okay. After the Thunderbirds debacle, they actually have stuff going out the door, which is just truly amazing. Was it Porsche? I'm sorry. It was a car. Yeah. But, yeah. Thank you, Michael Williams. Home pin is shipping pins again. All right. Cool. I don't know. And then Wally Welch, I didn't know who he was, but he was a mainstay at JJP. He's retiring, so we're talking about lifetime achievement. Congratulations, Wally. Wally Welch is enjoying retirement. Fantastic. He's a mechanical designer. He's been in pinball since 1979. He's one of those old-timers. He's probably had his hands in a few games. Well, sure. You think about 1979, right? He was in with the Fathoms and the Meteors and that whole era. Very, very cool. It's just neat to celebrate those kind of guys. This week's poll? Yeah, this one. This one's ridiculous, even for me. This would be something I would ask, and then I would delete it and say I'm not asking this because it's silly, but we're going to do it. What's the question, Drew? What is the perfect number of balls for a multiball? Guess what? What? Depends on the play field. Oh. So the answers are you got two through 15. So if you're going to have a multiball, what is your favorite kind of multiball? It really depends on the game. Hmm. But can you have too many? Yeah, you can. Then it's unplayable if it's a packed play field. Remember we did the history lesson on Creature from Black Lagoon? Yes. They had a three-ball, multiball, and they were like, it was a disaster because there's so much crap there. So they had to knock it down to two. Here's the thing. I like three-ball. Four-ball is pretty special. It's all these balls bouncing around. I don't like anything over four balls. It's all these balls bouncing around. Although the one in Stern's Indiana Jones is fun when it comes out of the – Oh, the Stern Indiana Jones? Yeah, when it comes out of the Ark of the Covenant. That's pretty cool. That's cool shit, right? 15 balls is too much, that's a shame. that's what she said um you can't deal with this uh it's too much ball talk for you it's all these balls bouncing around rachel flips five five ball yeah i i agree with you a little bit ian because when i got turtles premium i'm like oh sweet there's eight balls in this one you know it's even more than the pro and then when you get that you're like this is stupid like and it's just it's ridiculous you know at such a ridiculous level uh no tony scoots we're not talking about too many multi balls in the game talking about number of balls per multiball uh josh mudd is still talking about monster code josh it's not gonna happen walk away man tim lee says six balls max i i agree tim lee the the newer sterns are all sick like you know metallica had four uh spider-man has four spider-man works beautifully with four by the way um yes yes josh it's all these balls bouncing around um but yeah i'm i'm usually the guy who wants more i want more lights i want more bling right ian knows me yeah but pretty gaudy no eight's too many eight is too many stern are you listening keep it at six do some interesting things uh heist i'm glad you did something cool and you broke a record it might work because they have a lot of wide open play field fair enough middle play fair pretty wide open that that might work um might be stupid crazy but it'd still be fun yeah well then you might as well get hyper ball no that's not pinball uh so yeah i would say six and then with some games like i said uh spider-man is perfect with four metallica's perfect with four so i think that's that's a good it's a good number josh mudd will never let it die says tim lee uh it's true he's gonna keep going yeah yeah so anyways that's that that was the poll of the week oh terrible poll any any other good news bad news no i think we hit no news pretty good uh there's all this drama with uh the saps guys being on loser kid i didn't read i didn't watch it yet but i was listening to Kaneda. Yeah. Kaneda went on one of his live streams and was bitching about, you know, the boys making fun of him and how he's a negative podcaster, but they were negative too. Wait, who said they were negative? The Saps guys when they were on Loser Kid, I guess. Oh, okay. They were commenting. Yeah, that he's a negative podcaster and then, you know, Kaneda shoots back, well, you guys did a lot of negative things too, so. They tried to do it in a positive way. No, I mean, I think what his point is, they did a lot of poking fun at Kaneda's expense. Okay. Mostly on Facebook. Yeah, Chris and Chris. The Chrises. The Chrises have had a lot of friction. Yeah. And Christian Lyon, I feel like he's like me. The other Chris. Yeah, the other Christian. He's like... The three Chrises. Christian's probably like, Franchi, what are you doing here, right? You know that's Christian in the background. He's like, Franchi, leave it alone. Yeah, just leave it alone. No. Don't do it. don't press the button don't press the send button pretty much you pressed it you prick yeah it's it's how it works and uh canada was pissed did he fire back on it oh it was his live no tony's oh did he okay yeah i didn't i didn't see that i'm gonna have to canada went off says jeremy schmitz yeah he did yes he did he was not happy yeah too many chrises and pinballs as cause that is true there are a lot of chrises speaking of which has anyone seen grosner Yeah. I haven't heard from Chris Grosner in a while. We were talking about him today, and we're like, we're a little worried because we haven't seen him in a long time. And too many Jeffs. Yes, Jeffs and Chris's. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Not enough Ian's, though. So Ian's, let's go. Let's take over pinball. Or not. It's fine. All right. What else we got? Anything else? News? Yeah, we have a history lesson. We can do a history lesson. What do you guys want to do? We haven't done one of these in a long time. History lesson. Let's do it. Should we do that before? after happy hour um let's do happy hour i need a cocktail break i need to get another beer here so why don't we do a little cocktail break i gotta get a little more ice here and then we'll be right back for happy hour all right that sounds like a plan um we'll just play glenn's beautiful song for all the times you made your pain on my best game because your ball can't stay down in the in lane you think you broke my heart with super jacks that lack in the space for a 5 mac truck flipper gap and I didn't want to sell you now cause I didn't want anything in your space that's not a 10 cause you look good with your lights on so I guess I won't be moving on and I think that Dwight just made new code and I won't hold back but he should just know Happy Hour Night lights but I been so caught up in your art and didn see all of these flaws cause I was wrong All I ever do is turn you on cause if you like the way you look that much Ghostbusters go ahead and flip yourself. And if you think that I still wanna play, Ghostbusters go ahead and flip yourself. The song is super catchy. When you told me you were a old-fashioned theme And your lower playfield used to be bees And every time you told me push that blue button And try to make me forget this game's just not fun And I didn't want to play again Cause I didn't want to fall asleep This game just ain't too deep But I like you with your lights on So maybe I'll be holding on And I think Dwight should write something That makes this game not crap He and Christopher Franchi know that Pince, I don't like you But they hate everything And I never play you And I'd get to the end But I've been so caught up in your art Drawn with such detail in heart But now I know This game won't sell in a Kmart So if you like the way you look that much, then monsters go ahead and flip yourself. And if you think 6X all day in Grandpa's lab don't stink, then go ahead and flip yourself. Be Quint on the horn, everybody. Friday Pimpin'? Oh, really? No, it's cool. It really is. Yeah, he's like that. He drives his own car. Yes, he's like you. Wow, that's a family. That's funny. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. For all the times I said your shots were way too small. Steep out and says that they're tight but findable. I never scored so low my bricks were vulnerable. Was I a fool to think this game was valuable? Because if you like the way you look that much Houdini, you can go and flip yourself And if you think that I will play you now Houdini, you can go and flip yourself And if you think I'll try, I'll just brick and die Houdini, you should go and flip yourself And if you think I'll try I'll brick and die You should go and brick yourself All right, let's give it up for Mr. Glenn Glenn Waechter, one of our favorite pitbull songs. We love you, buddy. We love you, Glenn. Glenn gets cheese. A little cheese slice is for Mr. Glenn Glenn Waechter. Ian gets Skittles. Ian's all about Skittles. That's all I do now. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, let's do some happy hour, guys. It's really cool being back in chat with you guys. And Rachel, Glenno, Jaeger, Josh Mudd, Kaz. Every week you guys come. Stephen Silver. Love it, love it, love it. Rachel, my wife, is so excited to meet you tomorrow. So we got that. Yeah, very cool. Should I play the music or no? Sure. it's time for happy hour here at poor man's pinball podcast and that can only mean one thing time to go look at the insanity that is the viewers comments one part live interaction two parts fuck it friday here we are happy hour what do you guys want to talk about drew what's going on man how you doing good man yeah how's life how's how's Selling shit, selling houses. It's good. Stepping away from the pizza. It's good. It's good. Oh, man. You look 10 years younger. I have been telling everyone, like, I'm working just as many hours, but it feels amazing because I can work when I want. So, like, I like working. I've never not liked working, but it's like if I want to go in an hour later, I go in an hour later. If I want to finish an hour early, I finish an hour early. You know, that kind of stuff. So it's just been awesome. Billy YJ, thank you for commenting on my hat. It was a slight modification. We have the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast barrel logo. Oh, we talked about that last week. Yes, yes. We're going to start selling those. Yes, we are. Drew looks amazing. Thanks, Rachel. He does look amazing. He's so damn cute all the time. You little sexy shit. What else we got, man? Guys, let's talk about something. I mean, it can be pinball related. What do you think about some of these rumors going around for the next game? so back to the future right we hear a lot of that we hear a lot of mandalorian not futurama i'm gonna strangle you we hear a lot of rumblings from people talking about obviously like godzilla beetlejuice like there's been a shit ton of titles people are you know the thing about spooky it is kind of a wild card because you know spooky wants to maintain that spooky theme cobra kai that was another one but at the same time you know charlie's not stupid so So, you know, do you think Spooky is going to break out of their Spooky themes? I don't know. Well, I have no idea. Because, no, it's just, it's up for, you know, discussion because. Mortal Kombat, Toy Story, Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. See, because Scooby-Doo kind of fits that Spooky, you know, theme. Because, you know, they set up like Rick and Morty. Rick and Morty sci-fi, right? Yeah. But it's not Spooky. I think they're not. I think they're slowly distancing away from that. Well, no, and that's what I'm saying. Because they're really big into it, which is great, but a lot of that's more niche. Yeah, well, maybe they might want to do it, like Bug and Charlie, but they're at Scattonesi doing games for them, and Ben Hex doing games. It doesn't necessarily mean those guys are going to go the spooky route. So, yeah, man, I don't know. But Scooby-Doo, we haven't talked much about it. It's come up several times. uh you know everyone knows my love for cartoons because i'm a 12 year old man child who beats on 10 year old man childs at uh tournaments he shows them what's up um yeah yeah i i beat you by 10,000 points i gave him a couple of wet willies um uh scooby doo i mean that's the only way Keith Elwin could beat you by giving you wet willies totally yeah Keith Elwin you cheater man not really guys poor man's pinball podcast called keith ellen a cheater and all of you know what and if i would add more time to talk to him i was going to ask him like flat out like the stern talk to you guys about going on certain podcasts because i'm really curious oh yeah i am genuinely curious about if you know stern and them talk to their people and say we're bad poor blacklisted yeah like we're bad you know do they just say like here's here's the top 10 podcast because were one of them thank you thank you everybody it's all you uh you're only allowed to go on loser kid yeah exactly yeah oh you're friends with loser kid perfect you go on them they're they're safe they're fine uh kaneda obviously we're not gonna even have that discussion um oh you know special when lit they're coming back yeah you can go on their show poor man's no so scooby-doo scooby-doo i would buy the spooky thing that was the original thought Yeah, Scooby-Doo's cool, man. Scooby-Doo's a cool theme. At first you think about it because, I don't know, man, they could go with some of the newer Scooby-Doo stuff. There's so much Scooby-Doo out there. It's like Turtles, right? It just kind of kept manifesting into something else. Yeah, I mean, obviously, we're all going to want the Scooby-Doo from our childhood. The 80s, the 70s, the 80s. The old hand-drawn shit that was... Would they have Casey Kasem's voice in there? That's what I'm saying. You would have to, right? I mean, there's a lot of things in there you would have to do the original stuff. Could be cool, depending on how they do the art. Tim Lee, it's not a long way to get a game because they're expanding times two. Maturitaville, Tiger King. Fuck yeah. Tiger King or Scooby-Doo? Ooh, that's tough. I would just love to see one. Yes. Pee-wee Herman's Big Adventure Pinball. See, I think Pee-wee would be a bigger game than Scooby-Doo. I would love a Pee-wee. Pee-wee Herman would be, I think, so here's the thing. just the soundtrack alone my my wife my wife would endorse back to the future uh she would endorse um what did we just say peewee herman peewee herman yes she loves peewee herman so so one of those two are pearl jam which they're probably not going to do but but those two have some legs back to the future and peewee herman oh yeah definitely i've heard Mortal Kombat and Getaway 3, neither of which would be someone other than Richie. Somebody else said Getaway 3, too, and I'm like, do you think Stern's really going to go back into the non-licensed pot? No, they make too much money on the license. That's what I'm saying. They tried it with Black Knight. I agree with you. It didn't work. It didn't work that well. Yeah, people like the topper, but... It's a great topper. Shit. It is a fucking good topper. It's a fucking good topper. David David Van Es is designing, too. So there you go. Oh, okay. Sure, sure, sure. Harry Potter. Well, everyone knows Harry Potter would sell no matter where it is. Yeah, that's another one. I would say, guys, out of everything we just listed, I'm going to have to probably play the field. You know, Spooky's really good at just kind of throwing smoke screens out there. Well, Stern's really good at throwing smoke screens out there and then coming up with something kind of out of left field. so you know what somebody mentioned on pinstye when i was looking at this thread and i was like oh that's crazy they no one's released the game in 2021 yet yeah just kind of bizarre that's what i said when i when i read that i was like oh that can't be true and then i was like oh wait a minute led zeppelin was when was that at the end of the end of last year is that december yeah i think they i think they announced it in december i like the black knight i'm not saying black knight sword of rage was a bad game i'm saying that stern makes a shit ton more money doing stuff like turtles than they would ever black knight sword of rage or getaway three because those are just for that small niche of pinball people but the majority of people that are getting new to this hobby or majority of these people that are putting stuff on location for randos to play and put a quarter in chances are they're gonna play like i said a licensed theme before they would play whitewater two getaway three because canada said it wasn't beetle juice well canada's right about 12 of the time can we talk about no yeah i should do it do it i'm not gonna do it i'm not gonna do it i won't do it do it do it do it i'm not i i i'm not going to do it that's fine anyway let's go do it you do it you know what i'm gonna say no i really don't oh then let's keep going let's do it No, no, cat's out of the bag, my friend. You can't stick that shit back in. Nobody out there should – do you guys really think he has actual spies and stuff? You know, here's the thing. You think he does? No, because – no, absolutely not. Because, you know, they're a multimillion-dollar company, right? And whoever has that knowledge, guess what? that person's making a lot of money right are they gonna risk their job to tell chris who tells his 50 people that listen to him oh shots fired shots fired chris saw pinball would be great for spooky ace track i believe i i love that what would be good for saw the movie saw the franchise it would it would you could put a lot of cool toys in there harry potter i'm with pp or pwe not pp pwe richie's retirement pin i like the black knight that's the s3 tim lee no one's believing anything you say ever again beetlejuice first of all uh they said it wasn't beetlejuice uh what let's see what about a hannibal lecter game from spooky hannibal lecter is not that is just not a movie you would could do to a pin like it would know that would be a really hard one someone say the other day i was listening to a podcast and they mentioned something oh law and order and and they were saying like yeah i like the show i love the show i'm a huge lawn order fan and and then they're like i can't even imagine what that would even begin to look like and i was the same way like i'm a huge fan and i'm like no if you put uh remember the old guy who did the original lawn order uh crap what's his name he died a few years back he was that guy with the hunchback and crap i can't remember the actor's name but uh you know he was in for like 10 or 12 years and i loved him and it was great but i'm just thinking about him on a pinball machine and i'm like no no this would be absolutely awful let's not do that uh scary movie would be fun yeah yeah that'd be a fun uh a fun little license mortal kombat let's see rachel flips wisconsin does stern make games to be on the route though or to make games for the collector or what's their target market besides 45 year old white guys um here's the thing I believe for big licenses, I would. Well, yeah, but their target market, I think the majority of people that buy, it's going to be 40 plus. Well, no, I'm saying on route versus the home collector. I'd say the home collectors got a leg up now. But now it's a large 75, 20, a large amount of Stern's revenue, though, is routing games still. So sure, sure. Confirm next straight Stern pinball is Backstreet Boys. Could be. right next to your NSYNC pinball machine? I feel like Mortal Kombat would be badass, similar to Deadpool and animations, et cetera. Mortal Kombat could work. You go through each character fighting them. I could see Mortal Kombat work. If you say Mortal Kombat can work, see Street Fighter II from Gottlieb or Capcom or whatever. It was a Gottlieb, wasn't it? It was. It works. Target market equals money, yes. um that's true bowl from night court we're talking about a night court pin that would be pretty funny uh well yeah you know there's there's a lot of themes at work i don't know i don't know what what they would be doing though i have no idea still i think it's going to be something we haven't heard of yet sure sure but you know chances are and and canada saying like it's a the only thing we know for sure that stern has is the godzilla license right that that one's kind of been confirmed yeah that one besides godzilla i don't know guys but every every cartoon from our generation could be done right well transformers gi joe thundercats voltron he man for josh mudd man josh mudd would love a he man so you have got you boo don't worry you have you know five or six or seven he and then and then you parlay that into super mario brothers and zelda and all the other great Nintendo properties from that era. The mid-'80s. Cameron Cowell says the 80s don't sell. I would like to disagree with him. I might be a little biased because I was born in 1981. 81, baby. 81. 81 for life. Yes. I would sell both of these games for a couple themes from the 80s. Oh, yeah. If they came out with Transformers and G.I. Joe tomorrow and they said, just pick one, you'd be like, I want both. yeah i would be like uh what would you get first you'd get gij out wouldn't you i'd get over the top with sylvester stallone boom over the top i you know you gotta win the arm wrestling it sets up well with pinball as long as you you you beat all the like the the competitors and you gotta arm wrestle for the custody of your kid in a truck so that was the that was the win you know he got to once he won he gets the truck and the kid if we're gonna talk about good pinball baby if we're gonna talk about good 80s licenses from bad stallone movies i'm going with tango and cash well that was first off that's not a bad movie that's an amazing movie i love it and i meant bad in the in the sense of critics and reviews i've watched that movie a thousand times i have no idea what you're fucking talking about right now sir sir being sick uh sir and and it has kurt russell as well well that's what i'm saying imagine putting their two mugs up on the translate kurt russell the cowboy sly in the detective businessman you know like god la meets his meets you know i texas i wore out together i wore out one of those vhs movies i love that every gun they shot had like a spark that just the muzzle flash was like five feet long yeah when i was like 13 or 14 that was like my favorite movie really oh i watched tango and cash yeah i watched that movie like a hundred times tommy boy big trouble little china no that would be the one i would get without a doubt that would be the only le i'd want maybe goonies le like you know yeah that's a good question because ian ian's a little more tight tight butthole with his uh money i'm broke so yeah what what would make you loosen that butthole to the point that you just be like sell sell sell get it out of here get it big trouble little Big Trouble in Little China, for sure. That'd be number one. What else? What are, like, five? Here, let's try five. Yeah, all right. Big Trouble in Little China. Boom. Goonies. Boom. I would do pretty hardcore Indiana Jones made by Jersey Jack. Okay. Okay? Well, then you might as well just buy the original Indiana Jones, because that's a good game, and it's the same price. Yeah, but I think Jersey Jack could do some magic, too. Oh, and by the way, the one at District 82 is, like, one of the nicest ones ever. It glows. Guys, I can't. Like the goddamn arc itself. I can't tell you. I played this one. It's got the color DMD. It's, like, flawless. I played, like, three or four games on it, and I was just mesmerized by how nice this one was. Yeah. Like, beautiful. Go ahead. No, American Ninja with Michael Dudikoff. and uh you know i got thrown some horror there so maybe like a really good you said you'd like like night of the living dead like a black and white one oh maybe day of the dawn of the dead yeah there you go dawn of the dead with them all okay zombie game you know that would be really really really cool that was made in 78 that movie but regardless okay all right cool that's what i would have done those are le's for me yeah yours is futurama futurama uh yeah i would like to see I'll say Transformers or G.I. Joe because one of those, you know, just one of those 80s cartoons or He-Man. You can kind of lump them all together. What else would I like to see? I'm just going to throw Tango and Cash in there. Tango and Cash? I threw in American Ninja. Fuck it. How could you not? Oh, Lion King. Lion King. Zach was talking about this a few weeks ago. I think E.T. would make a good game. They were talking about Disney properties Jungle Book. Even though I wasn't a huge fan, I could see Jungle Book being a really good pinball. Lion King would be a LE purchase. So where am I? Futurama. One of the 80s cartoons. I know. One of the 80s cartoons. Just pick one. Lion King. I'm really not doing Tango and Cash because that's just bullshit. No, it's not. Muppets. Muppets would be a buy for me instantly. All right, hold on. We've got to get caught up on chat here a little bit. Go ahead. I'm going to think of one more. Street Fighter 2 did not have designers or tech of today. I agree with you, Billy. Let's see here. The future. Wait, they didn't have designers? Why, did Monkeys make it? Batteries not included. Glenno, that would be a great game. Oh, there you go. That would be. I just shared that movie with my daughter. She loved it. Oh, really? Awesome. Yeah. Short Circuit, Johnny No. 5, fantastic movie. That'd be great. Let's see here. I don't know if it'd be a buy for me right away, but Gremlins. I would like to see that. Glenn Minesweeper? No, that's okay. Burping here. Sorry, guys. It's that damn beer. I'd prefer Mask over G.I. Joe, Kaz. You would. You were rich back in the day, weren't you, man? Not going to lie. Ian, that movie was badass. Which movie, Billy? Let's see. What were the guys with the wings under their thing? Thunderhawks? Yeah, the Silverhawks. Silverhawks. There you go. Oh, you're probably talking about Over the Top. Yeah, dude, Over the Top was badass. Let's see. You broke that jaw. Big Trouble in Little China win if you're going to bad 80s movies. Again, Michael Williams. I don't know what you're talking about. Actually, Glenno, you're right. I would buy a Chris Farley movie pinball in a hurry. Rachel, I am also a person who likes licensed games. I know original material doesn't sell, but it's far more interesting to me. Sure. Oh, you like name licensing. Rachel, TNA is an amazing example of that. Some of those 80s pins that we were playing the other day were amazing examples of that. But, you know, the licenses just sell to the greater audience. PrisonPro1, hundreds of people depend on jobs making pinballs, and you pick over the top unemployment line in Chicago just got longer. You know what? PrisonPro1, that was a joke. Could you imagine how cool that game would be? oak city pinball dumb and dumber american ninja loosen your butthole uh oh my god oh dumb and dumber that'd be kind of good shot rachel duck tails duck tails would be would be a good one oak city pinball oh shit american engine see someone knows what i'm talking about thanks oak city pinball you guys are you guys are both idiots yeah um sorry oak city pinball yeah you guys solidarity baby running man with arnold uh running man so many disney movies world under glass for sure duck tales oh my sorry my wife doesn't like any of that sci-fi crap but the other day she watched uh what was the one with arnold schwarzenegger total recall yeah that's a crazy she's she's like i've never seen this and i was like well let's watch it because it's been many many years since i saw it and she was into it mostly because it was so cheesy and so crazy it crazy no i was enjoying watching her because she usually she she was like oh this is dumb This is stupid And she was into it because it was so crazy and stupid And that just made me smile I just had to share that Tim Lee said my buddy told me American Pinball is making Futurama next release There you go. Hey, Tim Lee, you are dead to me again. D-Nuts 77. Hello, guys. What up, D-Nuts? Hey, D-Nuts. The arm wrestling one. I missed the name of it. Yeah. Over the Top. Badass. All right. Let's see. Over the Top. I'm surprised Ace Ventura didn't get made in the 90s. Yeah, that's true, Glenn. That was a huge game. Or a huge movie. How about Major League? Would that make a good pinball? Major League? Mm-hmm. Yeah, with frickin' Charlie Sheen. Well, yeah. I was just thinking of God, I'm drawing a blank. Wild thing. Who's my guy? The announcer. Bob Uecker. Oh, yeah. With Uecker Cots. Hell, you can put Uecker Cots in any of my games. It'll make the game better. On Deadpool. Just a bit outside. Yeah, every time you miss. Just a bit outside. Okay, Stern, are you listening? That's beautiful. Maximum is Daryl, by the way. LOL. Oh, hey, Daryl. It's Daryl. Hey, Daryl. Daryl, you joined us today. I talked to Daryl on the phone the other day. Oh, nice. Maximum Overdrive, Fliptronic. Yeah, you're getting somewhere there, man. The Mexalone and Maximum Overdrive would be awesome. Charlie Sheen, or not Charlie Sheen, but Emilio Estevez call outs. Come on. How can you beat Emilio? Emilio! True enough. All right. Oh, I got my number five. So it would be... Wow, Jesus Christ. Seriously? It would be a Spider-Man villains theme. Carnage or Venom. Yeah. With some Todd McFarlane art. I thought you were going to do something like that. Yes. Yes. Double dare. Ducks. Everyone, do yourself a favor. Just Google Todd McFarlane and look at his Spider-Man art. He's the guy that did Spawn. It's just off the hook. It's just awesome. So, anyways. they need a villain's pin in general yeah that's true like a joker pin family matters see we should never ask this question was Glenn in the chat Glenn you're banned every time you drink did I do that did I do that oh that would actually be funny but yeah it would be so annoying I would love to see a home pin where it's just the most annoying home pin in the history homebrew go to the show yeah do do a house family matter do a homebrew with just a whitewood but then um just do different sitcoms on there yeah i'd be like yeah did i do that and then like like elf doing like his stuff like eating cats and then yeah it'd be it'd be pretty good you can do all those 80s sitcoms all right well we're gonna call that that wasn't really fun guys that was good i love when we freestyle with you guys that's always a good time because you guys far better show preppers than we are. Yeah, you guys prepared. Alright, so speaking of which, I did prepare a little bit. What do you got? I got a history lesson. Sweet, I'll drink you history lesson. History lesson. Secret service! What? I thought this would be a freaking awesome game because I saw one for sale for $1,200. I'm like, there are games still under $2,000. No one wants it. $1,200 to $1,400. Are you kidding me? Did you see this thing? No, it is pretty. I'm going to change your mind once you learn all the stuff about this game. That's what we're here for. I got almost a page and a half of fucking quality. So I can get one Popeye, hang on, or three Secret Service. I mean, who wouldn't want three games that shoot better than Popeye? Yeah, raise your hand if you own Secret Service. I didn't see any hands. Mr. Belvedere, they're still talking. Elf, they're still talking about. Mr. Belvedere, there you go. if you had a pin with mr belvedere callouts i still wouldn't know what the fuck was going on like it would be vaguely familiar just yeah yeah exactly yeah oh it's so good no the name of the pin would just be sitcom uh yeah you know main main themes 80s sitcom music themes you know yeah you'd have growing pains on there you have full house oh yeah it'd be a whole thing punky brewster yeah yeah yeah it'd be a whole thing oh boy cheers do you remember that one uh nickelodeon show with uh oh man i think it was the blonde from clarissa knows it all but she she uh her dad was an alien and he left and then it was just her and her mom there's a few but she had that power where when she put her two fingers together she froze time yeah and then there was that other one too where they were like it wasn't a i know they had the movie mannequin but it was like a tv show with the mannequins do you remember that one something yeah what was that guy and i remember yeah i remember that but i have no idea no no no this is like back in like the late 80s early 90s but she could freeze time by putting her two fingers together and everything would freeze i don't know like the same way zach morris went time out Third Rock from the Sun. No, no, no. Incredible Shrinking Woman. Melissa Joan Hart. Maybe. Small Wonder. That sounds right. That sounds right. Anyway, all right. Thanks, D-Nuts. Mork and Mindy. Yeah, whatever, Jack Rabbit. I don't know what's going on. All right, here we go. Secret Service. Data East, 1988. Glenn, you're just saying words now. And Tony Scoots is not Double Dare. Still going right around $1,200. But Double Dare would be a good thing. $1,200 to $1,400. The second game from Data East. Number two, game number two from Data East. After Laser War? After Laser War, yes. Wow. They did Laser War and Data East. They fixed a lot of the bugs, but if you looked at a Data East in front of us, what does it have that Laser War has? That nice chrome grill. See the chrome with the speakers? Oh, I don't want to steal your thunder, but when I was at District 82, I played their Last Action Hero. I fell in love again. Oh, no. I did. I haven't touched, I haven't thought about that game, literally, since it's gone. gone and remember i always said metallica is the only game that's coming back yeah i played that thing and i was like oh this is so you've gotten better at pinball now too so the kid beat me um no but i i played that thing and you know started shaking and it was you know doing its thing and it was really well set up and i was like oh man out of this world is the show thank you for trying go ahead but yeah lat rachel says last action hero uh rachel that was the first game i ever brought into my home i love that game rachel we can't be friends anymore you can't deal with this you're hanging out with her tomorrow shut up dude well she better bring her boxing gloves okay go ahead we're gonna sit there and watch lethal weapon three um that's a good game too by the way underrated no that pin oh what are we talking about oh last action hero terrible movie yeah Oh, yeah. All right, here we go. Game design, Joe Kamenko. Artwork, our boy Kevin O'Connor. Michael Williams and Kathleen let you bring more? No, she told me I was an idiot the first time I brought a game home. And that continues to this day. Nothing's changed. And I'm thinking about, I might be bringing two home this week, Mike. We'll talk about that later. Go ahead. Sorry, secret service. You keep telling me to go ahead, and then you interrupt me. I'm loving pinball again. All right, artwork. Our boy Kevin O'Connor did this. Of course he did. Oh, yeah, he did a lot of stuff. Kevin O'Connor, like our top five Kevin O'Connor. Yes, that's right. I remember that. Art packages. Oh, God. Nobody ever talks about them. No. Kevin O'Connor did the art, man. Sound David Thiel, who's still going strong, man. 2,741 produced. Not bad for game number two. 2,700? 2,700. Yeah, that's pretty good. Alpha numeric, solid state, four players, three flippers, one ramp, three ball multiball uh two five bank target or drop targets tony scoots says joe camel toe when they're talking about kamikawa that's just vulgar a kick out hole good job scoots uh it's number 289 on pin side and of course you know me i love my i love my history of shit games apparently uh so known for its awesome light show wait wait is that better than call us in music Bugs Bunny birthday ball? No, that's the last one still, isn't it? I don't know. Here's a review on Pinside, Drew. Even you can sink your teeth in. Ready? Review on Pinside. If you like smoking hot girls, Ferraris, guns, action, and smooth shots, then this is your game. Thank you, Unlock Pinball. That was great. That is very good. David Thiel, the eight-hour photo session for arts. This is some trivia here. So let's get into what the game is, right? Your agent 001. 001? Yep. Is that a real thing? Of the U.S. Secret Service, you protect Washington, D.C. from Soviet attacks. So a lot of the modes revolve around essentially stopping Soviet plots around Washington, D.C., and then I think the final mode is when you actually infiltrate the Soviet cell to kill them. So it's a good old-fashioned 80s theme. You know, they're bagging on the light bar right now. You better get to that. The light bar on top. Yeah. Yeah. Tony Scoots says, who sits in a room and says, yes, that's a great looking light bar. Let's go with it. We'll get there. Scoots is ruining your thunder. No, it's fine. It's fine. I love it. So we'll just keep going here. Look at that fucking light bar. what's cool about that light bar is if you hit the left spinner uh the left side i believe it's the yellow or red light flashes oh that is pretty cool and then there's a right spinner and did you hear that so scoots suck on those eggs scoots you know i'm a lot sharper when i'm not on gummies I've noticed that. Anyway, here we go. Is this like the best Zach Manning quote of all time? Those poor man guys are actually articulate and educated when they're not drinking. I was expecting them to be dumbasses, and they come on my show. We talked to them in the morning, drinking a cup of coffee, and like, excuse me, sir, the pie equals 3.14. All right. So David Thiel said, this is the trivia now. David Thiel, the eight-hour photo session for the back glass took place in Madison, Wisconsin. Because the Capitol building looks so much like the one in the United States in Washington, D.C. So that is actually the Madison Capitol. Oh, really? Yeah. Another thing, cool. The people giving chase in the back glass. See if we have a picture of the nice back glass here. Look at those LEDs, dude. That's bright as shit. Nice side art. Let's see. I thought I had a picture of the back glass. Maybe not. There it is. All right. So you see the Ferrari. You see the agency, the chick shooting back at the people in the Mercedes. Well, those aren't just regular people. Those aren't actors. Oh, that's right. They were using models and stuff back then. Yeah, yeah. Just like the Charlie Sheen lookalike on Laser War. Yeah. So the people giving chase in the Mercedes is Richard Ditton, who did the software. His wife, Elaine Hodgson, or Hodgson, Hodgson? Hodgson? Sorry. Sorry, Elaine. Who's the wife of Denton. She's probably dead. No. Believe it or not, Elaine and Denton, their husband and wife, they opened up their own, they started their own company for electronics, and that's how they got their first gig was with Data East. Oh, no shit. And they started designing the boards for the Data East games. Yeah. And then they went on to, obviously Denton did a lot of coding. um that their company grew they struggled for a bit but they grew and one of their biggest hits golden tea and they're one of the largest casino slot machine producers now it that's them yeah yeah that's them so the people who made golden tea yep well shit yeah not dead kicking ass yeah um that's the opposite of being dead it's lani lani rob who does the software and david he's been around a while so all those guys are in and gales are uh in the car so these are the people then uh that they did uh buck hunter and golden yeah yeah no they're making like they're like billionaires i think legitimately yeah because they uh they were probably just getting by hit on golden tea and then uh but now their majority of their income comes from slot machines sure yeah side note doesn't really matter something uh let's see second machine uh from Dead at East after Laser War. One flaw, this came out with a bad end of stroke switches. They kept breaking. That was based on Todd Tuckey, TNT. So watch his videos on this because I get a lot of good stuff from him. You know, you look at this game, you'd say to yourself, self, this is definitely not a licensed game. It's not. However, there is licensed music in this game. From who? uh they have the theme for mission impossible oh very cool they have the theme for get smart cool they have the james bond movie of the year um for that year uh the spy who loved me uh the the song call is it's called nobody does it better nobody does it i just had a funny thought if they're doing this today at stern right and secret agent man which come on secret agent man Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. If they're doing this today at Stern, Gary Stern says, no, no, no. Keith Elwin, make some damn music. No shit. I'm not paying for that. Joe Kamenkaus is proof that he was probably dipping his toes in the old license water back then. Yeah. Keith Elwin, I want you to learn how to play the ukulele. Just go make some music for this pin. Kamenkaus, you know, he couldn't get laser tag. Second game, Secret Service. couldn't do James Bond, but fuck if we couldn't get the music. What do you think a laser tag license is worth today? Zero. We want to make a laser tag pin. How much? Easy. Can you give me a case of beer? And the last thing I wanted to say about this game, because I just think it's a cool game, and some of the shots are really cool in it, and I think it would be a lot of fun to have for a bit. But it has a post-game karaoke mode when you lose. The alphanumerics actually have the lyrics to the song. Nobody does it better. And then they play the music. That's actually pretty cool. Bring back karaoke in my pinball. You know, and that is Laser War. Or not Laser War, but Special War. That was a good history lesson, dude. Secret services. You get cheese slices for that. It works when we do it. As soon as it works. oh my god oh we got everything kevin uh oh so full you know you you said something about alphanumerics alphanumeric i have uh you know ever since i got mouse and around i had i had f f14 and i like them around i love it it's it's a great game why don't you i got one for you 2500 bucks it's called laser war you can buy the one i lugged down here no thanks can't pay someone to take it away uh uh so mouse and around uh swords of fury you know what else they play and then earth shaker which i want yeah something about those alphanumerics it's very pinball it's very cool right oh yeah of course because like you know we we have the cool lcds now and i wouldn't replace that with it they're awesome but the way alphanumerics even look It's very reminiscent to the old scoring wheels. Yes, yes. And I think that triggers something in us. Yeah, as much as I – And because it's not a very pretty color. It's that orangey thing. Yes, yes. That also helps kind of the retro thing for you. I like EMs, the scoring wheels. I like solid states that just have the scores. You know, that's cool. But something about the alphanumerics, it's just very unique. And like you said, they actually do some creative things with it, right? They have arrows. They do this. They do that. They try to make, you know, almost little pictures. Yeah. But, yeah, it's really neat. And the way the score reels, yeah, it's very cool. No, I get it, man. Yeah. I need a couple more in my collection. Yeah. No, I get it. Kathleen, plug your ears. She's sleeping. The Alphanumerics are coming home, Kathy. They are. They are. Sorry. Whoops. Oops. The Sanponin. There you go. Yeah, so very cool, man. Yeah. Kaz says he's really been enjoying Diner lately. Oh, there you go. He has a mint one, so there you go. So, Glenn, nice history lesson. Somebody call David Dennis and Ron Hallett and let them know that their services are no longer needed. See, the difference between their history lessons and my history lessons, mine take an afternoon. They spend actual time researching. And they, like, interview people. Yeah, no, they do such a great job. We are not in the same boat, even though I started mine first. No. Yeah, D-Nuts, yeah, he just got a high speed. He's loving it. The high speed is the alpha numeric. IT makes the Lego games. Shit. Yep. Yeah, they're on fire, man. Rachel flips Wisconsin. I've never played taxi. Rachel, we're doing it at Expo, girl. There you go. And we're playing taxi. Rachel, I'd say we'd play it when you come to Milwaukee, but I don't think there's one in Milwaukee. She hates me. All right. I agree. High speed is pretty sweet. Diner is better than taxi, says Glenno. Whoa. Yeah, Glenno and I had this conversation before. Yeah, I can see that. We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I like them both, but I can see that. I understand. He's coming at it through, like, the rules are so much better and that they're interesting in the way they designed that game. And I know the shots are good. I know shots are good in Diner. Shots are great in Diner. I just said I don't like Diner because the sound effects drive me absolutely nuts. It's too often. All I hear is the dish clanking. Well, why don't you just get the Bob Euchre call-outs for Diner? Just a bit outside. He broke another dish. But regardless, I still think Taxi is the complete game. I like the code. I like the rules. I like the shots. I like the call-outs. I like the music. Why don't you have a taxi? I will. I'll get one. But this is like the worst year in the history of pinball to get a taxi. Well, I know. But you've had all these other games. And you've been talking about taxis the whole time. I've also been talking about freaking Cushman Black Lagoon. But do you see that around here? Well, no. Because now it's $10,000. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? We didn't do Drew's patented over under. Rachel Fletch, Wisconsin. I love you. And thank you. I hope you got that joke. I saw some crazy things. We're not going to get into the whole thing, but yeah, there was several people selling creatures for like $7,500, $8,000, regular creatures, nothing fancy. Then I saw the craziest thing. I almost put mine up for sale after I saw this. A Simpsons pinball party. No frills, right? It was nice, but whatever. $7,800. People are fishing, man. With a sale pending, I was like, wait a minute. This is just out of control. Like, what is happening here? These games are not worth this much. So I don't know. But I'm going to get some more pinball, so maybe I will sell some because I can get good money now. I don't know. $7,800 for a Simpsons. I don't know what they sold it for, but they listed it at $7,800, and it wasn't like a high-end restore. or it wasn't, you know, it was just a Simpsons pinball party. I did toy about selling the Deadpool. Just toyed with it, the idea of selling Deadpool. Then I played it, and I was like, this game's way too good. Oh, Deadpool is such a good game. It's a crazy good game, man. Every time I play it, I'm just like, shit, this game shoots impressively good, considering I didn't like how it shot when I first played it. No, I wasn't a huge fan when it first came out, but, yeah, much like Star Wars, it really grew on me. George Gomez. What a fucking stud that guy is. Jesus. All right. So, Drew, what did you learn today, man? Let's wrap her up. I learned that no matter how bad I do at pinball, I'm always going to love pinball. Really, man? I just did, like, the last 20 minutes was a history lesson, and that's what I learned. That's what you learned? Mm-hmm. Well, I learned amazing things about Secret Service. I learned that Ian gets shitty when I don't care about his history lessons. Oh! Well, did you see it was short and to the point? It was. Motherfucker. You did good, man. You did good. 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