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Episode 128 – Agri-Plexing In Allentown

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·May 8, 2019
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt hosts recap Allentown Pinball Expo with gameplay reviews and tournament observations.

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale recap the Allentown Pinball Expo (TPF), discussing new game experiences including Black Knight Sword of Rage, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and Monster Bash remakes. They detail a massive venue line, tournament issues with Black Knight's code, and share gameplay impressions and design critiques of several games.

Key Claims

  • Black Knight Sword of Rage has a recurring lock shot malfunction affecting at least four machines where the ball gets stuck instead of locking properly

    high confidence · Ron describes observing this issue on multiple Black Knights at the show and previously

  • The new Black Knight Sword of Rage code release (.92) had a bug where the skill shot lights were not displaying, though one lane remained lit for skill shot with no visual indicator

    high confidence · Bruce and Ron discuss the tournament issue where players couldn't see which lane had the skill shot lit

  • Black Knight Sword of Rage plays significantly differently than typical Steve Ritchie games, with no repeatable flow shots and requiring specific flipper positioning for each shot

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discuss gameplay mechanics and design philosophy differences

  • Lethal Weapon 3 is the best Data East game according to Ron, with three distinct scoring strategies

    medium confidence · Ron makes claim; Bruce disagrees citing Guns N' Roses and WWE as alternatives

  • The Allentown show had an unusually long entry line on Friday, with approximately 30-40 minute wait times

    high confidence · Ron describes line extending around parking lot; Bruce arrived at 12:20 with 10-minute pre-opening wait

  • Lethal Weapon 3 is the 'year of' game at this year's Allentown show, with multiple units available for purchase

    medium confidence · Ron notes every year has a dominant game (Meteor year, Nineball year, etc.) and this is Lethal Weapon 3's year

  • Monster Bash (remake) has better flipper response than AFM and the Cliffy Protector is already damaged after a couple of show appearances

    medium confidence · Bruce observed at Allentown show

  • Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (1971 film) features a 60s-style psychedelic boat scene despite being released in 1971

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discuss the film; Bruce corrects that it's 1971 not 60s but maintains the psychedelic style

Notable Quotes

  • “There really is no chance for a repeatable shot in this game... With Steve Ritchie games, you're usually just on the fly. You go for flow. You go for repeatable shots. And there really is no chance for a repeatable shot in this game.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~45:00 — Identifies fundamental design departure from Steve Ritchie's established methodology in Black Knight Sword of Rage

  • “Every year seems to have a game that it's like the one year was the Meteor year... This year is the year of Lethal Weapon 3.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~28:00 — Identifies secondary market trending pattern at pinball expos where specific game titles dominate vendor inventory

  • “The line is just as long. I'm like, holy shit. All right. So we're going to do something. I went over to the pastry or cake section of the farmer's market. Got myself a cake... I won. I won.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~18:00 — Anecdotal evidence of unprecedented venue crowding at Allentown show, humorous coping mechanism

  • “It almost was like a street-level Gottlieb game... It's like there's nothing on that thing. It's almost like Iron Man with the one really cool toy... and then the rest of it is just kind of like there.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~41:00 — Critique of Black Knight Sword of Rage's playfield sparseness relative to modern designer expectations

  • “Tim, come on. You put Keeler on there. You put Levy on there. Come on. Help a brother out... We made you famous.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~52:00 — Highlights community dynamics and podcast influence on designer credibility and in-game recognition

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonSteve RitchiepersonZach SharpepersonColin McAlpinepersonTim BallpersonCarl D'AngelopersonRaymond Davidson

Signals

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    product_concern: Black Knight Sword of Rage lock shot mechanism appears to have a systematic issue affecting multiple units where balls get stuck instead of locking properly, observed on at least four different machines

    high · Ron: 'I noticed it had the same issue I've seen on at least two other Black Knights now... So that's four of them now that have the same issue.'

  • ?

    code_update: New Black Knight Sword of Rage code version (.92) released right before Allentown show contained a skill shot display bug where the skill shot lane was lit but no light indicator was visible

    high · Bruce and Ron discuss tournament impact: skill shot lights were missing from display, making it impossible to see which lane was lit without hitting it

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Black Knight Sword of Rage represents significant departure from Steve Ritchie's established design methodology by eliminating repeatable flow shots, requiring specific flipper positioning for each shot rather than enabling organic flow-based play

    high · Bruce: 'With Steve Ritchie games, you're usually just on the fly. You go for flow. You go for repeatable shots. And there really is no chance for a repeatable shot in this game.'

  • ?

    event_signal: Allentown Pinball Expo experienced unprecedented Friday entry line with 30-40 minute wait times extending around parking lot, unusually crowded Friday despite appearing less crowded throughout the day than typical shows

    high · Ron describes hour-long wait in farmer's market while line remained same length; multiple mentions of never seeing line like that before

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Transcript

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0:00
Sorry, fellas. I was trying to take care of a little business back in the latrine. Sure wish I could tell you not to go in there, but old T.A.'s having a little trouble cranking the cables these days.
0:12
You are taking a dump. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Hi, Bruce. Hi. Do you know Homer Simpson really loves upstate New York? Oh, yes, he does. He really does.
0:52
You'll have to play that in the beginning, huh? Or hopefully you just did. No, I'll put it at the end. Okay, there you go. I'll put it at the end. If you want to listen to what Homer Simpson thinks of upstate New York, which you probably already know, but I'll put it at the end. Kind of brutal. Yeah, it is brutal. But, of course, so is Simpson's Pinball Party. Terrible game. It's a great game. It's a terrible game. And this is episode 128, our Allentown Post show spectacular.
1:21
Spectacular. One of the few times a year you get both of us together. Yes. For all of five minutes, maybe. So, how was your show? My show was good. Yeah? Let's talk about the whole show and nothing but the show. The whole show, which is good because we have no mail. No mail in the ball bag. The ball bag is empty. My ball bag is empty. Stop it, people. You've got to fill my ball bag. I mean, for news, we have – what is Cosmic Carnival? What is that? It's like a – it's from Suncoast Pinball. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's got the Dirty Donnie artwork, so it looks good. It looks great.
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market_signal: Lethal Weapon 3 identified as dominant trading game at Allentown show this year, with multiple units available for purchase; follows pattern of yearly dominant trading games (Meteor year, Nineball year, etc.)

medium · Ron: 'This year is the year of Lethal Weapon 3... They heard that you bought one, so now they're going to bring them all out.'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Black Knight Sword of Rage playfield described as sparse with minimal ramps, compared unfavorably to even Iron Man which had two ramps; consists mainly of up-kickers and lane feeds rather than ramp-based shots

    high · Bruce: 'It seems like a stripped down... Even Iron Man had two ramps. Exactly. You know, so. There really is no ramps on this game. It's just up kicks and then ramp feeding.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Monster Bash (remake) Cliffy Protector already showing damage after only a couple of show appearances, suggesting potential durability or protection design issue

    medium · Bruce: 'that Cliffy Protector was beat up already on the out'

  • ?

    community_signal: Podcast hosts assert their influence on designer credibility and in-game recognition, requesting designer Tim Ball include podcast initials or reference in high score table entries

    medium · Ron: 'We made you famous. All I want is just Loop Champion. Make Bruce the Loop Champion... Come on, Tim. Make it happen.'

  • ?

    content_signal: Carl D'Angelo at IEPinball streamed Black Knight Sword of Rage launch party tournament with bracket format, featuring new animation for Retro Mode unlock

    medium · Ron references Carl D'Angelo stream at twitch.tv/IEPinball covering launch party tournament with finals challenges

  • ?

    tournament_signal: Black Knight Sword of Rage tournament setup at Allentown show configured with brutally hard settings, generating player complaints, separate from skill shot bug issue

    medium · Ron: 'in the tournament, the games were, like, set up brutally hard. And that might be another discussion for another time. There's a lot of complaints by the players.'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Silverwall Saloon in East Rochester, NY recently acquired Black Knight Sword of Rage and is hosting launch parties

    high · Ron describes playing BKSOR at Silverwall Saloon (135 West Commercial Street) and mentions it's a brand new arrival; venue also hosting launch party

    • 2:01
    But... And supposedly they're going to make them for like 5K? Yes, supposedly. We shall see. Yes, we will. Plus a new code for Black Knight. Which caused issues at the tournament. We'll get into that. Oh, great. There was a bug in there. Yes, there is. We also have... I mean, we have Black Knight Sword of Rage launch parties that will be happening. And we got one at the bar. Yes. Well, Saloon has one. I believe they'll also be at the World Famous Rock Fantasy this weekend. Yes, they will. Which I actually won't be at. Yeah, because we're having – I committed to have a retirement party for a co-worker of mine. He won't notice. We're having that on Saturday. I'm not there. Yeah, he won't notice that he's retiring. He's probably so old he's probably decrepit.
    2:51
    No, no. So then we have like there's like lots of Alice Cooper Nightmare Castle streams. I'm just really being lazy here. I'm reading right off of This Week in Pinball. Good. Thank you, Jeff. Yes, thank you, Jeff. Chris Franchi, is he leaving Stern Pinball or is he not leaving Stern Pinball? I don't know. I didn't ask him. I don't know. I didn't listen to the Slap Save Pinball podcast yet. I didn't either. So I don't know. I guess more to follow. That's it. That's all I have for news. I'm going to ask for it, Chris, right now. Oh, Jesus. Hey, Chris, are you leaving? Yes. He busted my balls at the show, so I can bust his. How did he bust your balls at the show? We're online, and he's asking me if he should buy a Galaxy Stern or a Haunted House. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. That's not even a decision. Exactly. No. For those at home, Galaxy is the correct answer. It is. Haunted House is pretty much never the correct answer. Yes. Eight flippers of no fun.
    3:56
    But actually, before we start anything, I want to let all the listeners know I did it. He watched Willy Wonka. I did. And? Okay, I guess it's time for my review. Yes, so let's get over your full review of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory that you've not seen until 2019. Yep, and thank Mrs. and Dr. Penn for giving me the DVD. Yes, and cookies. And cookies, yes. Thank you for the cookies. God, I love the cookies. I got two batches. Yes, you did. And I watched it, and okay. So let me get this straight. The whole movie is basically there's five kids. Yes, there is. Four of them suck, and one is the good kid. They all don't suck in the beginning, but then one by one they go down their dirty paths of deceit. Yeah, but they pretty much make that very apparent from the second you see the kids that they all suck. That Charlie is the only – Augustus Group is not bad. He's just hungry. Yeah, but that's gluttony, so that's bad, I guess.
    5:02
    Yeah, and Charlie is like the only good one. Well, he's not the good one. Yes, he is. No, he's not. Well, even he does something wrong. Exactly. But then again, every single kid, every time he says not to touch something, they all touch it. Actually, Mike TV is the best kid of all. Why is Mike – Because he's the last one to really touch anything.
    5:23
    So if you go by that rule, Mike TV should be – it should be Mike TV and the Chocolate Factory. Actually, my favorite line in the whole movie is when Mike TV is going to get – he's going to get transported into the TV.
    5:38
    And Gene Wilder is just there, oh, no, please don't. Please stop. No, it's just the delivery is perfect. Just dry, deadpan humor. And so let me get this straight. So he employs slave labor to make his chocolate. Yes, he does. On paid slave labor. The Oompa Loompas. Yes. On paid slave labor to make his candy.
    6:03
    Because they were eaten by snozz. Yeah, they would all be dead if it wasn't for him saving them. Exactly. Okay. All the kids suck except Charlie. All the bad things happen to them. I don't agree with that one, but we'll disagree on that one. Whatever. we have the weird boat ride like the psychedelic boat ride from hell yes that was the 60s somebody was tripping in that part actually it was 1971 but yes but very very bizarre scene especially the chicken's head cutting cut off there's a lot of there's worms there's all kinds of weird shit going on in that scene and in the end when it gets to the one point you know to the part I've already seen before you know you lose good day sir etc etc And one of the things that confused me, like, are they supposed to be in England? Yes. I would assume, even though they never say that. But how come, like, Charlie and, like, everyone is American? They're not American. But, like, his teacher is British. They're all American. No, they're not. Yes, they are. Charlie is American. His mom is American. All his grandparents were American. None of them have British accents. You know, Grandpa Joe, American. Grandpa Joe is a snake of all snakes. Well, yeah, he can't walk until he can. Yes. Ooh, there's free chocolate? I'm getting my fucking ass out of bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not only does he walk, he, like, dances around. It's like, wow, his atrophied muscles, like, just totally healed up really quickly. I got a golden ticket.
    7:31
    Uh, yeah, that's, it's like, so he lives, like, almost right next to the factory, so that's pretty convenient. Yeah, it is. Luckily, because it was the next day that he found the ticket. The next day was the final. I love the opening credits. I got really hungry. So much chocolate. Yes, there is. So much chocolate. Oh, my. And the Candyman, is that song actually from that movie? Yes, it is. No, actually, it was recorded for that movie, and then two years later, Sammy Davis shoot it. Okay.
    8:04
    That's my question. Is it originally from that movie? Okay, the Candyman. All right. uh it was okay what would you rate it on an ipdb basis jesus uh i would rate it uh i didn't like it as much as uh wizard of oz wow so wizard of oz is better than willie wonka the chocolate factory yes so if you guys disagree with ron or agree with ron please give us some email at slam till podcast at gmail.com that's right that's slam till podcast at gmail.com you can tell me i'm high or I'm absolutely correct. I'm actually disagreeing with you. Do I have to watch the other one now, too, to compare them? Oh, that's the creepier one. Yeah, but it's supposedly – isn't it – More based off the book. I mean, because the book is called Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It's not called Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. But there's two books. I'm a big Johnny Depp mark, so I almost should watch that. You should because it's kind of creepy, and he's very creepy in there, and he likes to talk like this and very – So he based his character – Yeah, I was going to say, he based his character off Michael Jackson. Okay. I think so. I think he did. So that was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. So I finally saw it. Yay. Isn't everyone happy now?
    9:17
    What next movie do I got to teach you and show you? Well, what movie are you watching right now? Full Impulse Power. No, sir. We have Genesis. You can do whatever you want. Full Impulse Power. Damn you all.
    9:32
    Almost got the line right, but you were good. You were good. full impulse pow. You got to say it right, you know. And say cool words like indigenous.
    9:42
    Let me introduce you to City Alpha 5's indigenous life form. Or torpedoes. F torpedoes, fire! Yes. Is Ricardo Montalban possibly the coolest guy ever? He's up there. Just the chest alone in that movie. It's just like, he just takes that off like welcome to Fantasy Island. That's what he's saying as he takes it off. Welcome to Fantasy Island.
    10:09
    And our buddy, our man, Sulu, George Takei, he has great lines like, phasers locked. Yes. Just the way he says that. Best guess, Mr. Sulu, fire. Fire. So much for the little training crews. Oh, bye.
    10:28
    But let's get back to pinball. Oh, no, I was enjoying that. What else about, it's the best Star Trek movie. It is the best. Oh, yes. It's Wrath of Khan. You can't lose at Wrath of Khan. No. I would advise if people go on YouTube and look up, I think it's called like Star Trek Wrath of Khan modern trailer. Yes. It is absolutely fantastic. I was surprised who was in the search for Spock, though. I didn't know John Lorquette was in the search for Spock. Oh, yeah. He's in there somewhere. He's the guy that beams them up when the planet's falling apart. What is it?
    11:08
    Maltz! Cool cheat! When he – he's Maltz. Boom, cha, fall, cool, boom, whatever. Yeah. Yeah, all that Klingon stuff. Okay, now, let's get back to pinball. Oh, yes. I was working on pinball. You were working on pinball. Okay, what were you working on? Allentown. I had to rebuild the flippers on your favorite game at the bar. Oh, God. What's my favorite game at the bar? When you complained about last episode. Oh, Lord of the Rings. Yes. Yeah, because they're just so weak from just the ridiculously long games on them. They were the stops were hammered beyond all belief. I'm sure they were. But now they're all fresh and with new lightning flippers on there. Okay. You still shouldn't have it in the tournament. No, no, no. that it'll be easier that I'll take the post out and make the multi-ball hard during tournaments. You're just not going to let this go, are you? Nope, not at all.
    12:05
    I was talking to some of our higher-ranked players, and they recommended that, and I'm going to go with those settings. So Zach recommended that? No. Yeah. Higher. He has his own list. He has his own. Well, yeah, Zach is also the guy who wins most of your tournaments, so why don't you go by him? He has his own list of how to rules and everything like that. Mrs. Pin talked about his list from one time. Huh? I'm confused. What do you mean he has his own list? He has his own list of every game. He has his own notes for every game.
    12:38
    And we've begged for this list in the past. Oh, Colin. You got it. Colin McAlpine. Yes. Hi, Colin. I wonder if you can hear the movie that I can hear in the background.
    12:49
    We're recording a podcast here. Come on. Yeah, I know, but it's still Star Trek. I don't care. If I'm listening, I would be annoyed. Like, what the hell is that background noise? So, what did you do this weekend? I went to the Allentown show. So did I. Surprise, surprise. We were both there slamming tilt together. Yes. Oh, my. The show starts actually Thursday for prep and setup and for vendors to come in there. And if you want deals. Yes. That's when the deals are grabbed and gotten. Zach was down there putting two games into the tournament.
    13:28
    One game. I thought he had two. He brought three games. He sold two and put one in the tournament. That was a little chief. Yes, a little chief. Little chief. And I got there around 10.45 in the morning, went right online at 10.45, and I was about number 30th online. Ron, what time did you get there? What do you mean? Say that again. We had it on the Bruce-ism. Online. What do you mean you went online? There's a line outside. You mean you got in the line? Yes. Online is something totally different. It sounds like you got online like you're ready to get Pinnberg tickets or something. No. Me and my dad arrived on Friday at around 12.20. They open at 12. Yes, they do. And we get there at 12.20. We were there about 12.10. We got inside the room. Ten minutes got, you know. We get there, and there's a line basically going around the entire parking lot. Yes. Longest line I've ever seen. It's insane. So I'm like, holy shit. Like, okay, I'll just go to the farmer's market, hang out there for a while, and then the line will be down by then, and then I'm not in a hurry. So I'm in the farmer's market for like an hour. I come out. The line is just as long. It's still there, just as long. I'm like, holy shit. All right. So we're going to do something. I went over to the pastry or cake section of the farmer's market. Of course you did. Got myself a cake. Basically, you can get a full cake, half or quarter size. And they're huge. Even the quarter is like a huge piece of cake. So I got the quarter and decided to see if I could challenge myself to finish that piece of cake before I got to the front of the line. And? I won. All right. Oh, my. The line moved, but it was, I don't know, 30, 40 minutes to get in. It was insane. And it had like one person taking the text. Yeah, I got the text from Ron at, hold on, let's see what time. I got the text, I'm in. Yeah, it was insane. I've never seen anything like that. I mean, we've typically come around about the same time. We've never had it. 141 you got in at, I'm in. Yeah, never had issues with a line like that before. Absolutely insane. And you got to play some new games like we did. Yes, I did. I think maybe next time I should bring a game so I get in really early and so I can play more games and stuff. Exactly. But the weird thing is the line was so long, but honestly, at least throughout the day, I noticed it didn't seem that crowded. It was pretty crowded for a Friday. For a Friday, it was really crowded. Yeah, but you could still get on games and stuff. Yes. And a Friday was the day. I mean, Saturday, there was all kinds of games gone, which is weird. It's like Friday was the day.
    16:19
    And, you know, I brought some money with me. You know, and I had, you know, if I saw a deal, maybe I'd see what happens. What were you looking for? Did you have any ideas in your head? No, not really. Just anything caught my eye. And then I see a meteor. That was bad. That ended up being bad.
    16:38
    So, and that was really the only game that interested me. For at least for the money I bought. Brought. Yeah, that was it. It was the year of Lethal Weapon. Yes, it was. And Hot Tip. Oh, yeah, there was Hot Tips. I saw at least three No Fears. Yep. So, yeah, every year seems to have a game that it's like the one year was the Meteor year, which, of course, I didn't get a Meteor. One year is Nineball. This year is the year of Lethal Weapon 3. Yes.
    17:12
    They heard about it. They heard that you bought one, so now they're going to bring them all out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, everyone, I think people are realizing now that it is the best Data East game.
    17:21
    And up. What Data East game is better than Lethal Weapon 3? I actually like Guns N' Roses. Come on. You hit the same shot over and over and over and over and over again. Or WWE.
    17:37
    That's better. At least you hit more shots. I mean, Guns N' Roses, the whole game is you just hit, you pick super pops, and then you hit the lock shot. A shitload of times so you get the band. If you don't get it all, it doesn't matter. When the third ball will be lit anyway, get in a multi-ball, Paradise City, etc. Rinse and repeat. The cooler functions you hardly ever use, like locking a mode in with the trigger and that stuff, no one plays it that way in a tournament, though. It's all just the ball lock show. Rinse and repeat. As opposed to an awesome game like Lethal Weapon 3, which has at least three different distinct strategies you can employ to get a high score.
    18:17
    Each with varying degrees of difficulty and risk. Okay. No comment? No comment. You name me one better.
    18:27
    WWE. It's a lot of modes. I like the modes. WWE's good. It doesn't play like a wide body either. It really does.
    18:36
    Okay, what else? For Data East? Tales from the Crypt is not bad. I like Tales from the Crypt. That's not bad either. I mean, it's basically Tommy. It is. But with the flipper like the other way. Like, you know, upper right instead of upper left. It's the same Mac, isn't it? The Tombstone is the mirror. Yeah, but unfortunately it's annoying voices.
    19:00
    I love the theme. So it's only annoying when the switches have a problem and you keep hearing that over and over. Oh, my God. Well, we were at a show once, right? Like one of the switches or something, it was broken. So you just kept hearing the laugh the entire show. Oh, God. You just want to shoot yourself.
    19:19
    So you didn't buy anything. I got two sheets of wide body, stern wide body glass. Oh, you did get two, huh? They had that there? I had a deal. I was – I got contacted by Jim from Sanctum. Oh, okay. So he was buying a bunch of glass off Ivan.
    19:37
    For those who don't know, Ivan is the guy who runs the show. Yes, he is. And he knows I'm a stern guy. Like, need any stern wide-body glass? Like, sure. I can always use more. Yeah, you can always use more. So I got two sheets of that.
    19:51
    That's all I bought. Wow. I went around looking for, like, maybe flipper bats, drop targets, et cetera. There was nothing there. No. I didn't like that. No. Pretty clean. Pick clean. Yep. There might have been some stuff, but by the time I got there, there was nothing there. It was gone. Yep. So, obviously, the only way to really get stuff is you need to come there on Thursday. Yes. Which I never do. So, I guess no deals. I used to, but not anymore. No deals for the roster. I mean, that's how we got the Harlem Globetrotters. Bruce was there on a Thursday. Guy opens up a truck like, hey, Ron, want this?
    20:26
    Sure. Yep. See, you got to be fast. You got to be in it to win it. And, obviously, by going Friday, I'm not in it to win it. Well, you can be. But we got to play some new games. Yes, we did. Let's see our impressions. I got to play Black Knight Sword of Rage. I got to play Willy Wonka eventually. Which one did you play? Did you play the regular or the premium or the LE? The standard. Okay. I thought the standard played crappier than the other one. Okay. Well, let's do these one at a time. Which one do you want to do first? We can go with Tim Ball's game first. All right. Tim Ball's game. Because I have it at the bar. Sort of? What? You have a Black Knight Sword of Rage at your bar? I do. Is that a new arrival That is a brand new arrival Welcome What bar is this It at the Silverwall Saloon in East Rochester New York 135 West Commercial Street in East Rochester Wow. Wow, you get all the latest games, man. You really care about your customers. I do. Don't you feel denied because you live in Albany? I could drive like an hour and 40 minutes and play it at Rock Fantasy. Don't you feel denied? well that there's not one closer yes it's kind of sad I have to drive like almost two hours to play it yeah but alright you should drive out here the extra hour and then you really can have some fun because then you can hang out with us cool kids oh yeah so I played the one that was right by the front entrance like right when we walked in let's see first impressions well ton of the effect they used on Steve Ritchie's voice This is awesome. It was super basey. Yes. Gotta love that. Gotta love the insults. Getting constantly insulted. The knight toy itself is really cool. It is. It's got, like, and I almost didn't even notice that when he talks, his eyes flash at you. He's got these LEDs in his eyes. The flail is cool. You got the shield. It's cool. I noticed it had the same issue I've seen on at least two other Black Knights now. where the lock shot, it gets stuck. Rejected. Not even rejected. Like you hit it in there and it doesn't go all the way in, so it just gets stuck and it sits there and you have to wait for the ball search. Yep. Sometimes the ball search doesn't even help it. Okay, so that's four of them now that have the same issue. Interesting. So hopefully that's something maybe that can be addressed because it's obviously an issue. It is. I agree. Do you want to know, honestly, when I looked at the thing,
    23:08
    I just felt like it almost was like a street-level Gottlieb game. I know, that's what a lot of people have said. It's like there's nothing on that thing. It's almost like Iron Man with the, you know, you have that one really cool toy, i.e. the Monger, i.e. the Knight, and then the rest of it is just kind of like there. I don't know. I'd hit that left orbit and feel like it should come all the way around, but actually that just goes to the buck.
    23:32
    You know what I mean? I like the spinners. Yes, three. It plays fast as hell. It's brutal. It is brutal, which Ronnie likes that. Unfortunately, you have to play it a little differently than any other Steve Ritchie game. With Steve Ritchie games, you're usually just on the fly. You go for flow. You go for repeatable shots. And there really is no chance for a repeatable shot in this game. Yeah, most of the shots you're going to find, like if you want to hit the left ramp, you'll probably want it on the left flipper because backhand is easier. If you want to lock the ball or if you want to hit the lock target, you're going to want it on the right flipper because the backhand is easier.
    24:09
    And, I mean, I'm trying to think of the shots you put in backhand. I don't think the left orbit was backhandable. No. But I think just the left, the spinner ones, the one that goes all the way around. I agree. I don't know. The modes, like every mode is like some weird, like Hydra, the Hell Hand, you know, all these things. and they all have different rule sets to them, each mode. Yeah, which I always like, but I really didn't understand what I was doing. It was just, I just, like, flashing lights, tell me where to go. Well, in certain modes, the lights move. On certain modes, you have to hit the same shot twice before you can go into another shot.
    24:46
    So I liked it. It is brutal, though. I really want to see how the premium plays, because it does seem like it has stuff missing. Yes. It does not. It seems like a stripped down. Like I was just thinking Iron Man or something like that. But even Iron Man had two ramps. Exactly. You know, so. There really is no ramps on this game. It's just up kicks and then ramp feeding. You know, you're not shooting a ramp. You're shooting a lane. One of the things about it. I mean, the music is incredible. Although when I'm playing it, I still keep thinking like I want to hear the, oh, you got the power. It's like, come on, where is it? I want to hear that. The artwork is really cool. Oh, the artwork. I mean, it's Black Knight 2000, but with some cooler shit on it. Like the picture. Odd ways. Yeah, and the picture of the knight instead of just the, you know, the lightning wheel and that color scheme. It has other stuff on the art. The flail is super cool. There was at least once where the ball actually got helped up the ramp by the flail. Nice. Which was, that was pretty cool. The shield going up and down. I mean, he looks cool. Always got the feather or whatever. What was that called? I couldn't tell you what it was called, yeah.
    26:01
    When you feed money and it says, give me your money. Do you happen to see if our initials made it? No, not yet. No? No. Tim? We're not out. Tim, come on. Come on. You put Keeler on there. You put Levy on there. Come on. Help a brother out. You were unknown before you were on our podcast. I mean, no one watched your streams ever. We made you. Come on. Made you famous. All I want is just Loop Champion. Make Bruce the Loop Champion. Or just use STP for Sunfield Podcast. It's fine. Come on, Tim. Make it happen. You are Loop Champion. You are.
    26:43
    Well, that brings up an interesting thing. A new code version came out. Yes, it did. Right before the show. Now, the one I played did not have the new code on it. But the one in the tournament did have the new code on it. Yes, it did. And an interesting issue occurred. Now, in the tournament, the games were, like, set up brutally hard. And that might be another discussion for another time. There's a lot of complaints by the players. I don't really want to get into it. But the skill shot on Black Knight, there's two skill shots. There's probably more. The main skill shot, the regular one, is just the usual lane is lit. You hit the lit lane. You get skill shots. Super skill shot is you hold the left flipper up. Ball comes all the way around. You hit one of the three, like, shots. Like the death target, the other shot. There's like three. The one's in front of the night. There's actually a third one. Like I said, those are the two I know. I'm sure there's a third one. But what happened is, like, the regular skill shot wasn't available. Like, no light was lit up there to start off the ball. So everyone just assumed it was, like, because the game was set so hard, they just turned off the regular skill shot. But that wasn't the issue, was it, Bruce? Nope. What was the issue? I don't know because I didn't play it. Okay. That totally backfired on me. Okay, Bruce, I'll tell you what the issue was. Okay.
    28:04
    They missed the skill shot. Somehow it got left off the code, the new release. So it was there, but you couldn't see what light. Yes. The skill shot, no lights were on up there. but one of the lanes was lit for skill shot just with no light. So if you hit it up there and happened to go through the lane that was lit, even though you couldn't see it was lit, you would get the skill shot. Now, the third skill shot I saw in .92 is if you hold the left flipper for the super skill shot, but you plunge to get it up in the upper lanes and you hit that skill shot, it's actually worth more points, which is cool. There's some other games that do that. Yeah, but that's really cool. I like that one. Yeah, and the other really cool thing that's in the latest code, which I don't know if you've seen. I saw this. I was watching Carl D'Angelo. Hi, Carl. At IEPinball, twitch.tv slash IEPinball. He streamed a head-to-head tournament. Actually, it was basically the Black Knight Sword of Rage launch party for that place with the weird name, like Skogi or something like that, whatever that name of that place is, where they had match play first to determine who got in, and then he had a bracket, and then he did a heads-up challenge with two Black Knights, Sword of Rage games. And Carl won, of course. No. Oh, really? But when they got to the finals, the challenges got a little harder, and one of them was getting to Retro Mode, which to get to Retro Mode, you have to spell Knight and then hit the left loop. What's that loop? Left spinner. It's not even. Left after shot. Yeah, left shot to the Vuck. And they added a new animation where when you do that, they show the knight on a horse, and lightning hits him, and he morphs into the Black Knight Backglass. Nice. Yeah. That was very cool. I'll have to check that out. That's pretty cool.
    30:03
    So that is, if my memory serves me correctly, that's at three hours, 23 minutes, and 30 seconds of the video.
    30:10
    Something like that. You sure? Yeah, somewhere around there. Basically, when Carl wins, it's the thing he does. So there you go. You are champion. Oh, yeah. By the way, I had like 40 million. I played it twice. I had like 40 million and like 40 million something. I got to put my name in both times. Nice. I just thought I'd mention that. Yeah. Very cool. So your thoughts were pretty positive on the game, but it's a little sparse. It's sparse. So I'd like to hear it like, you know, home collection with the sound cranked up to get the full experience. because you really, like, you couldn't, you couldn't really hear the music that much. You could hear the bass from Steve Ritchie's voice over everything. Yes.
    30:52
    So, that's that game. We've got a couple more. A couple more? Yeah. Well, what else is there? I played more than you probably then. Okay, what did you play? Well, we got Willy Wonka next. Other than Willy Wonka, what did you play? I played the new Monster Bash. Oh, okay. I wanted to make sure the flippers were okay in that. Are they okay? And they seem better than AFM. They really do. But, boy, that was a – I guess it's been to a couple of shows, and that Cliffy Protector was beat up already on the out. Well, I was listening to Do or Die, Raymond Davidson's podcast. Hi, Raymond. He was talking about – he just played in a tournament, and they had an attack from Mars. And he's like, they had an attack from Mars, and it wasn't a remake, which is a good thing. So all the shots were where I thought they would be. Yeah. So we're not the only one saying this. No. What else then? I mean, you can consider that a new game. It's just a remake. Well, still, it's new to a lot of people.
    31:54
    Who? Most people who played never got to play a new one. They always played ones and, you know, they were out in locations and beat up.
    32:03
    Next is, of course, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. My wife just gave me the two thumbs down on it. Wow. She was head in it. Well, wait a minute. So the only other extra game you played was Monster Bash? No, no, no. The first time I got to play Alice Cooper. Oh, okay. What did you think? Eh, not bad. It was cool. It was just, I don't know. It was the best spooky ever. Well, we know you hate TNA. It's better than TNA, definitely. It's better than America's Most Haunted. It's better than... Well, yeah, anything's better than Rob Zombie. Rob Zombie, Chicken Bucket. So you don't have much to go bigger than on. It's better than Jetsons. It's better than – not Jetsons, sorry. It's better than Domino's. Well, no, Jetsons was done by them too, wasn't it? Yes, it was. It was designed by somebody else, but they built it. So, yeah. So, yeah, it's the best one they've ever made. See? So they're getting better with every release. But it didn't hit a home run with me. Okay. What's wrong with it? I don't know. It just – it felt a little weird. I was with a guy we were playing together because I just jumped on he's like hey you want to join me and I was like okay it was fun but it's just like it didn't hit a home run with me I was expecting more because everyone's been bragging about it I love that one vampire song that's like a rap song or whatever that is I love that yeah the music's cool the sound it's beautiful it looks really nice but it just doesn't do it for me I'm sorry alright I will have to get some time with the game somewhere if I can find one that, I mean, they have one in Rock Fantasy. I guess if I went there on a Sunday or something when there's hardly anyone there, I could play it probably. It usually has the games up pretty loud. I could get a decent experience.
    33:58
    And then Willy Wonka. Ah, Willy Wonka. That had a line the entire show. That had a line before the show. Kathy got there right at the show started. and they were actually handing out boxes of Gobstoppers to the first people online. And she got a box of Gobstoppers, which she's eating right now. Still, that's how many Gobstoppers she got. Well, wait a minute. She'd only need one, right? Isn't that the whole point? No, it's not everlasting. Oh, see? That's a fail. It's a fail. But it had a line from people actually, like, who brought games to the show, and they were all in line to play it. Yeah. Because there was two of them there. There was a Standard and an LE. Yes. Impressions? Thoughts. Well, you first. No, I gave you my thoughts on the other games, so come on, you're first. No, I was... Wait a minute, I was first on the other game. No. I was first on Black Knight. And I was first on, you know, talking about... That makes no sense. I didn't play any of those games. I know. Well, that's your fault. I gave you my impressions. You're next. Okay.
    35:03
    All right. Well, seeing them next to each other... Okay, well, I'll say my first thing. Okay. Jersey Jack should never bring a machine to a show. until he fixes the fucking flippers.
    35:14
    Oh, okay. Yeah, if you remember last episode, I was going to say last week, last episode when we had Zach on, we talked about the fact that the Jersey Jack games do not seem to work well in any kind of low-voltage situation with their flippers. Oh, my God. It was terrible. Compared to Stern or some of the other manufacturers. Yes. This has happened time and time again. And Allentown was no exception. The power there is not optimal. No, you've got 450 games. It's way more low than it's probably ever there.
    35:48
    And, yeah, I noticed the same. At least I played the standard. I could not hit the right ramp at all. I hit the right ramp, and it would just get to the wire form, so it would go the rest of the way. And these are not steep ramps. This is not like the Pirates' right ramp. These are not really that steep. Which wasn't there. No. So that was the first thing. It's like, that's the first thing that stuck in my head when I started hitting. It was like, okay, flippers are weak. Yep.
    36:18
    Shots for fun. Oh, hell yeah. Shots are like butter. It's got the, yeah, it's got the Terminator 2 ramp thing going there. Immediately has my attention. It's got the upper right flipper. It hits another ramp. Love it. I mean, it was like, man, if only the flippers were strong, this would really flow good. Yep. But it's just, ugh. Yeah. I know it's like... Not for the price. The standard, it's funny because you had, the LE has the Wankovator in the upper left corner of the game. The standard doesn't have it. And when you just look at the standard, even before I looked at the LE, that left side looks completely barren. It's just like a plastic. Yeah. And you can tell, like, hmm, you know, there's so much crap on this game, yet this one thing has nothing in it. It seems like there should be something there. and then you look over like, oh, there it is. That's what's missing. That's what's supposed to be there. So maybe they might want to consider putting a little more decoration there or something. I don't know because it's very, very apparent that something is missing.
    37:21
    I mean, as far as I could barely hear it, so I can't tell you if the sounds were great or anything else. I had no idea what I was doing. I was playing with Zach, and he was, like, pointing out things to hit, but I really didn't understand what I was doing. I got into, like, kid multiball. I got into the golf stopper thing, like that multiball. The lock. And, I mean, like I said, even with weak flippers, it shot good. So imagine with full-powered flippers, that thing is going to, like, shoot like a dream. Full power. Full power, damn you! Did it grab me the way, like, dialed in did? No. Which you hate anyway? Not really. No. I mean, dialed in, like, not only did it shoot like butter, I could see immediately where they were going with, like, oh, okay, every mode's going to be a goofy character. I am totally on board with this. This is not like that. Hopefully the rules will get better, and then hopefully it will be more enjoyable. Well, it's like, what, 40% done or whatever? The wizard modes aren't done, supposedly. So we'll see where it goes. We shall see. Yep. I mean, that's the other thing. They only had the two there. That's why they had the line. This is not like a Stern Marco display where they have, like, you know, 20 frigging Munsters or something. Yeah. Oh, that's another thing we played. Oh, that's right. Did you get a chance? Yeah, you probably haven't played the Premium yet. Yeah, the Premium. I know it's the first time I played Munsters. All right. We played it for our way into the Premium. I like the Premium better. Mm-hmm. I did like the Premium for the multi-ball for the lower play field. That was pretty cool. Grandpa. You like Grandpa? I like Grandpa a lot. He's very nice to me.
    39:09
    He's very disgusting, yes. Yes, yes. Thank you very much. Well, what's the name of the guy in Family Guy? Oh, uh... Oh, damn it. What is his name? What's going on here? Hi, boys. What's going on? Herbert. Herbert, yes. I was just listening.
    39:25
    Hey, Bruce, I don't like that Herbert at all. He's quite disgusting. Why do you say that, Stewie? I don't know. He looks at me funny, and he looks at Chris really funny all the time. It's really, I'm absolutely freaked out now, and I'll tell you. He's looking out for your well-being. Sure he is.
    39:43
    I'm sorry. Okay. What were we talking about? Oh, monsters, monsters. And? I kind of liked it. It does shoot really well.
    39:54
    So do I have a convert? Do I have someone other than me who likes monsters? No, because it plays way too long. Really? When you go from upper to lower play field on the premium, it's like, please wait. Five, four, three, two, one. Start playing. It's like, really?
    40:14
    Every time? Okay. It's a long player. So what you're saying is you're impatient. I am very impatient.
    40:23
    One other thing I didn't – I think about the Munsters. Do you think they put the buttons too close together? Yes. Okay. All right. You agree. That's another problem I have with Black Knight. Oh, that's the thing I was going to say that I forgot. Yes. When we had Timmy on, I was all on board with the Magna Save on the center, on the lockdown bar. Fail. Yeah, in actual practice, total fail. No fucking way. No way. That game, yeah, we love you, but the game is so fast. There is no one. I don't care what your fucking reaction time is. that it's going to get a fast-moving ball and save it. No. Moving your hand all the way. Moving your hand, even if you keep your right hand on the flipper, you know, and you're bringing the other one over, that you are literally only going to save a slow-moving ball. And there's hardly anything on that game that's slow. And another thing I noticed, did you notice this? The MagnaSave doesn't save as long as you would hopefully like it to. I don't know. I never saw anyone successfully use it. Yeah, I used it once at the bar. Okay. It's like a three-second hold. Literally, every time, it was just, boom, it's gone. Like, oh.
    41:31
    Literally, you couldn't even process to hit the button in the time it takes to drain. No, that doesn't work. They should have put the button on the side. I had to do a 180 on that. I was all for that because I figured, yeah, it would be cool. You have to reach up and hit it, like the action button. But in practice, when you play that thing, as fast as it plays, you have no shot. No. No way.
    41:57
    Yeah, but definitely it needs the magnet button. Any other future games that are going to be made, and you just put holes in the cabinet right before your game. Yeah, but they're in the wrong spot. I wouldn't care. At least it's right by your flipper button. Yeah, you would start hitting the MagnaSafe constantly instead of the flipper button because they're too close together. Guess what? It's still there. Yeah. Yeah, Munsters, the button should be a little lower because you keep hitting it. But it doesn't affect anything. uh no so that doesn bother me trying to move five inches over no way No way It probably more than five inches but yeah Yeah half the length So 13, 12 inches, 10 inches, whatever you want to call it. Whoa, 10 inches. Oh, my.
    42:44
    Yeah, so that was an annoying thing. But I actually didn't mind Monster, so it shot pretty good. Just very long playing. Really? The animations were okay. The ones I played weren't that long playing, but. animations were just okay.
    42:59
    Artwork was nice. I liked the black and white. The black and white really kicks ass. Okay, wait a minute. Before you said, and I have this recording, that you hated the black and white. Actually, seeing it up close now, I was like, wow, it's actually a little better than I thought it was going to be. $180, ladies and gentlemen. Totally $180 because I didn't play it.
    43:17
    But it's pricey, too, though. Everything's pricey now. All games are expensive. Yep, they are. Did you play any Oktoberfest?
    43:27
    No, I couldn't. Actually, it was almost as long as the line as Willy Wonka at certain points. When I went over there, the line was just as long. And that was a really long player. That's a really long player. Yeah, and it is a really long player. And you haven't played that, right? No. Damn. What's your opinions of it? It hasn't changed since the last. I didn't play it there. Oh, okay. I mean, I played it at Texas. I mean, I asked who played, oh, Zach played and I asked him, is this side ramp any more hittable? He's like, no. Okay. Done. Done.
    44:02
    Thank you for the Simpsons Pinball Party side ramp again. Thank you. Come again. Just as hittable. Thank you. Come again. Yeah. Yeah, and it was really long playing at Texas too. It's just really, really long playing.
    44:15
    I hope they sell a ton of them though. There you go. You know, I support all these pinball companies. I mean, I just would never actually buy that particular game. But, you know, I have supported Spooky. I have supported Jersey Jack. I've supported Stern.
    44:32
    I'm a supporter. Jock. What? You're a jock supporter? I'm a jock supporter. Always appropriate. You know something funny? The hotel I stayed at had two pinball machines there. Stop it. Yes, they did. you know what they were?
    44:53
    You would have shit yourself with one of them. You'd probably still be there playing it. High Roller Casino. Yep, High Roller Casino. And next to it was a Lost in Space. Oh, wow. So bad and good. And they were set to 50 cents, but they actually had credits on them. Oh, nice. Not really. They had credits on them because these were the worst maintained games I've ever seen. Excellent. Rubbers literally falling off. But somehow, I didn't play the High Roller Casino. I played the Lost in Space. Somehow, the flippers still worked. And you could actually still hit the shots. But, man, you would hit ramps, and they would be, like, loose, like falling apart as you hit them. It was, like, terrible. You'd hit, like, in Lost in Space, it does the thing where it, like, the ball goes up, and it comes out of wire form onto, like, a spinning disc. And then the thing spins around. It's actually pretty cool. The magnet part of it worked, but the spinning part didn't. Yeah, it was just absolutely filthy.
    45:55
    It was sad. Luckily, one of my friends bought a game down at Allentown. And guess what he bought? What did he buy? A High Roller Casino.
    46:07
    So your friends have issues is what you're saying. So guess what's going to possibly be coming at the bar eventually? No! Yes, baby. No! Oh, my God. Talk about long playing games.
    46:18
    High Roller Casino. Watch as everyone hits the ramp repeatedly in boredom. Thanks, Bruce. You just made my day. Oh, I knew I would. I'm so glad. You know, I just want you listeners to know I'm the one who asked to record today. Yes. You know, it's not always Bruce. Like, we go to record like I wanted to record. Because he wanted to talk about the greatness. The greatness that was Allentown. Let's see. What else do I have on my list about Allentown? Didn't somebody buy a game? I think someone bought a game. And I heard you broke a cart, too. Is that true? Broke a cart. I heard you broke a cart taking the game out. No. No? No. You didn't? You sure? That's what Scott said. The tire was flat already when I went to go hook the cart up. Oh, okay. So Scott was incorrect. Because Scott's telling me, like, you took this game out and the wheel went on the cart. Oh, the tire was already flat. I went to go hook it up. I pulled the cart back, and all of a sudden the tire's like burnt. I go, this tire's flat. He goes, oh, yeah, it is flat. Okay, give me the other cart.
    47:26
    And what game were you picking up with this cart? This is the first manufacturer of this game since I bought since – okay, hold on. I had one in my house about seven years ago, and the last game manufacturer I bought – The last game – again, you're saying that wrong. The last game from this manufacturer you bought. I bought was 1992.
    47:52
    So that's the last time you bought a Gottlieb. Yes. Really? Until now. You haven't bought a Gottlieb since 1992? Nope. What the hell was it? Lights, camera? No, that's not true because you bought the lights, camera, action. I did not. That was Jerry's lights, camera, action. It was at my house. Really? Yes. I bought the lights, camera, action before that, the second one. Okay. So what did you buy in 92?
    48:14
    Buck Rogers. Wait a minute, you bought, after everything, you bought a Buck Rogers? I got it for 50 bucks. I don't care. It's Buck Rogers. I know. For 50 bucks, yeah. But it's a System 1, though. Well, back then, you didn't know it was that bad. Oh.
    48:31
    Okay. So what did you pick up, Bruce? TX, TX, TX. TX Sector. Yes. It was a really good deal. It was beautiful. This thing was like almost home. It was home use only for 23 years. Wow.
    48:47
    So you're going to have fun just repeatedly hitting the spinner? You got it, baby. I actually like multi-ball in that game, too. It's hard to get. I don't remember seeing that anywhere. It was in the, there's two of them there. Well, I remember seeing the one that I played.
    49:03
    But so it was in the regular, like. Flea market area. Oh, it was in the flea market area. Okay, that's why I didn't see it. That's why. But there was a lot of expensive games there that were a crack money. Were a crack money. What does that mean? There was, like, there was a skateball there. Uh-huh.
    49:22
    The flash ripoff, yep. Worn in the middle. Mm-hmm. Not working. Okay. Rusty. And went for $14.50.
    49:33
    Yeah, no. No? No. No? No, no, no. There was a Paragon there I saw. There's a couple of Paragons there.
    49:42
    But, yeah, I thought the prices were really high this year, most games. Did you now? I did. Yeah, I think it's, I mean, high prices, really crowded. That's the problem when everything becomes more popular. It does, because pinball is, you know, nobody wants to talk about pinball or tournaments or anything like that. Oh, what does that have to do with tournaments? Well, we'll get to the tournaments. Oh, yes. There was a funny post on Pinside. A guy basically showed up, saw the line, waited a couple hours, and then just literally drove home and just said, oh, the show was ruined and all this stuff. And then for once, everyone on Pinside basically shit all over this guy. Yes, they did. It was funny. It's like, wow, pinball getting more popular. That's a shame.
    50:31
    Yeah, I know. How dare you have pinball actually working and doing well? Yeah, it was pretty funny. It was pretty funny. I did get one message this week from one of our friends, and you actually got the same message. I did? You did on Facebook. I did. Okay, what message was that? It was a picture of this guy sitting on a stool at a pinball show, pinball tournament, actually. All right. He's a friend of the show. Ah, yes. Yes. And then the comment below it was, why did you guys send this guy to Texas? Harder than shit to win.
    51:07
    And that would be Steve Bowden. Yes, it was. Who won the, what, Cactus Jacks pinball showdown. Yes, he did. And did you see my comment underneath it? What was your comment? I said, yep, super strong, sorry, love being able to win again, Bruce.
    51:24
    How can you win? You didn't even play in the tournament. Hell yeah, because I'm smarter than that. Really? I played in the tournament, Bruce.
    51:33
    And you actually did pretty well. Yeah. Every once in a while, something weird happens and I play well. I don't get it. So the tournament, which is a big Wop-portunity, one of your biggest Northeast Wop-portunities, the PINFEST tournament. This year they did, what is it? You could enter the tournament for free to get the initial four entries. Like you had to play four different games. It was your top four games, but you got it for free. And then subsequent entries were $10.
    52:06
    $10 per game. Yep, which is fairly pricey. And then they also had a gauntlet on Friday, which I think someone needs to get the term. When you think gauntlet, what do you think of? I think you have to run the gauntlet. People keep coming at you, and you have to keep beating them. That's usually a gauntlet, right? I agree. I mean, I don't know why this was called. Basically what this was is you had, I think it was seven games? Six. Six games. You pay $20, and you have to play the six games, one right after the other. Like, no breaks. And I'm like, this is perfect. And when I got in, I saw, like, Zach immediately. We played Black Knight, Sword of Rage. And then he mentioned, like, the gauntlet. And I was like, yeah, let's do that. And it's a good thing we did that at 140 or whatever it was, because I ended up being the last person to actually get in.
    53:03
    Yikes. Meaning they had to cut it off at some point. So some people entered, like they got their money back, so they didn't get to play in the gauntlet. I think it was 82 people got to play in it. Yep. And somehow I qualified fifth. I took the top 16. Or was it the top 16 or the top 12? I think it was top 12. Yeah, it was top 12. The top four got a bye, and you were the first one out of the bye. Yep, yep, yep, yep. So then they did the finals in a very unique way.
    53:34
    Stupid way. I disagree. I absolutely loved it. I want to do that again. What they did is, basically, they did Pinnberg. Pretend it's a Pinnberg final. So you play four games, and I think even the scoring was like 3-2-1-0. But instead of playing the games one at a time, you got to play them like one person would start on one game, second player would start on another, third player on another, fourth player on another. So you're all playing at the same time. Yay! And they're all on like older games that were playing fairly difficult, including Zack's Little Chief. Let's see, there's the Little Chief, there was Super Sonic, there was an 8-ball with a Powerball in it, because, you know, we love that. and a Raven.
    54:21
    So I was in the first, so it was like the first was 5, 6, 7, 8. Players 5, 6, 7, 8. And I got to choose what game I wanted to start on, so I picked Supersonic. Tilt to Sonic, you mean? We'll get into that.
    54:35
    So this was actually a very fair playing Supersonic. The thing I look for in Supersonic, you know they say Black Knight 2000 is a right flipper only game? Supersonic is a left flipper only game. Oh, yes, it is. It has drop targets or they stand up. on the left. I can't remember. They're stand-ups. Either way, you don't want to hit them. And there's the lane on the left. You don't want to bother hitting it. It's all basically hitting the saucer, the spinner, and the lanes. That's the whole game. And this one, when you play Super Sonic, what you want to know is, how's the kick-out from the saucer? Where's it going to go? Is it going to go right down the middle? Is it going to go into a slingshot? What's it going to do? This one had the most perfect kick-out you could possibly ask for. Like, you would just lift your left flipper up,
    55:17
    instant trap, every time. Nice. Perfect. So as soon as I saw that, it's like, all right. I did – I don't have the score thing in front of me. I think I had like a second and three firsts or something like that. Something like that. But the games – I said the games. Yeah. The thing about this format, though, that was cool is like if you have a house ball, like Super Sonic Drains immediately where you'd have to just sit around for 15 minutes and wait to play it again, you got to just move right to another game and play immediately. I absolutely loved it. I would love to do this again. I love that way of playing the finals. He just kept moving. I mean, you still got your three balls in on the game, on all four games, but it was just, there was no waiting. And I hate waiting.
    56:05
    That's one of the, you know, my weaknesses as a tournament player is the, you know, the top tournament players, they can just wait 40 minutes between balls and it's like no effect. I have issues with that. We know. Like you don't? No, I'm around. Okay. So I got through that round.
    56:26
    I advanced. Then I think in the next group that I wasn't in, one of the players had a tilt through on Supersonic. Remember that. Tilt through on Supersonic. So he got DQ'd or got a zero for that. And the player that he tilted got a compensation ball. so then we get to the next round of semi-finals and again i play well and i advance into the finals so the final four was me jason zahler steve zahler and uh davey i'm gonna ruin his name Plasted.
    57:12
    He's a New Englander. He plays at the Sanctum. And I figured one of the Zollers was probably going to win.
    57:22
    But I was going to do my best. So I played the first ball, unlike all the games. And I played in order. It was Supersonic, followed by Little Chief, 8-Ball, and then Raven. And the funny thing on Raven, what I was doing, like, I don't really know how to play Raven. So I asked Zach, and he's there like, the inlay enlightens the spinner. Think Alien Star. That's literally all I needed to hear. And it was funny watching other people play it. They were, like, hitting it up the center, hitting targets and stuff. And I'm literally there just chatting and hitting the spinner. And they would play, like, these long ball times. And I would play, like, for, you know, 10 seconds, hit the spinner, like, three times and win.
    58:06
    Nice. So we get through ball one. I get back to supersonic. And then before we start, Corey, the tournament director, he's there like, check the flippers. The previous player kind of shoved it a little bit. Make sure they didn't tilt through. So, you know, I hit the flippers and they worked. That should have been a clue to me that maybe wait a little bit longer. Yeah, should have been. Yeah, shut up. But all those players were all starting at the same time. and I was just like in the groove. So I go up, I start playing, and really early in the ball, I need to make a slap save. Now, here's the funny part. I slap save, saves the ball, doesn't tilt. I actually hit the ball like one more time, and as the ball's like in the center of the play field, the flippers go dead, and it's tilt. I'm like, are you kidding? And I get to sit there and watch the ball. Well, the ball rolls down, like bounces off the flipper, slowly rolls into the out-hole. Remember, check your out-hole. Rolls into the out-hole and immediately second tilt. What? Yep. So I get a tilt through, get a zero for the game, and that effectively ended any chance I had of winning. I was not happy.
    59:22
    As I found out later, I guess during the finals or qualifying or whatever, I don't think it was finals. There was two more tilt-throughs. Two other players had tilt-throughs, and they eventually did something.
    59:36
    But it was just so annoying. Yeah, I can imagine. Now I know why IFPA does the player one and three and two and four and all that, but you really can't do that in this case. And I keep hearing mentions of the Bally ROMs that have the tilt-through fix in them. Maybe someone can email us and let us know where we can get those, because I hear that mentioned all the time, but I've never seen them available. Have you ever seen them available anywhere? I thought Scott told me that it was somebody else that had them, and Scott knew where the guy was. Okay, so if Scott, you know where they are. Just because it seems crazy because that killed my fucking final. It pissed me off, and I never recovered from that. I think I took second on one game, and then I think I was last on the other two, and then, well, last on three because of that, on a game that I was kind of blowing up most of the rounds, it just pissed me off. But luckily you were in the money. Yeah. Because everyone seemed like to be in the money. Yeah, that's what they, yep, they gave prizes down, like, really low. Like, you could be, like, in 30th, 40th place and you got a prize. And they had lots of trophies and stuff, which seemed to be some contention in that, that they paid down too low. and the winner got too little money, et cetera, et cetera. There's a whole freaking thread. I'm sure it'll be on Tilt Forum soon enough. Oh, yes, it will. Because I think the winner got like... $360. Yeah. Alexander Kazmarchik. Yeah, so $360.
    61:08
    Yeah, and paying $10 per game. Yeah, and they put a layout today of what the cost was and everything like that. And I saw that and I was like, it's still a lot of money. You could be like Bowen, who like, Bowen didn't even show up until Saturday. Yes. And the qualifying was from like 9 to 12, so he only has three hours to get in. Yep. You know how many entries it took him to beat second seed?
    61:33
    Seven. Yep. So he got the four freebies, and literally, so he literally only paid $30. Yeah. But most people didn't pay that much. Well, most people were not Bowen. Yes. Yeah. So I was feeling good about my, because I spent $20 for that, and I won $65.
    61:53
    But then I was told, like, I did my four entries in the main tournament, and then I paid another $20 and did two more playing stars, which, fuck you, Scott. That was his stars, and, man, it was brutal. They took the rubber off the center post. Why? I know. Why?
    62:12
    It didn't need to be any more brutal than it was. Oh, God. So I did not improve that score. But I played Black Knight again. I played that my initial four entries in, and I played it a second time because I definitely saw a big score that could be had there. Because the locks were uneasy.
    62:29
    They had the tilt, like, ridiculous. Like, if you hit the flipper button too hard, it would tilt. But it's still – they had the thing up the back legs up on something. But it's still, like, you couldn't make it up to the upper play field with the right flipper, but you could with the left flipper. But I could still tell the way I was playing that, you know, you could easily start multi-ball and you can get a decent score. And they only had a couple people who had over a million. My second game I had 700K. So I was happy with that.
    62:56
    But then I was just like, no, I'm not going to play anymore. Which was, as it turned out, they took like the first 50 people or something like that. And I was like 60-something. So literally if I had one more good game on something, I probably could have got in. Yeah. Which I was told later. But I was like, I was kind of like, eh. But then, you know, it's just funny how, you know, let's have a tournament where the tilt is too tight on one game, and then let's change it the second day. So it screws up everyone's scoring. There's a whole, I don't really want to get into that whole shit show. I'm going to get into it. Come on, shit show away. No, because I don't. How about that Iron Maiden? Did you see the Iron Maiden?
    63:40
    You know, funny story about that. Okay. Hey! Funny story about that. We are I in the tournament area and me and Zach are like sitting on the floor and I just happen to look behind me and I see Stern Cabinet That says Stern on it. The generic artwork they did at the end. And it's like, it's orange. What the hell? Because Dragon Fist is blue. No, it's white. I think it's white and blue. It's white and blue. This one's orange. What the hell game is this? And Zach's there, it's Iron Maiden. Like, oh.
    64:16
    You know, I was like, ever play Iron Maiden before? Like, no. I was like, let's play Iron Maiden. So we played Iron Maiden, and it still sucks. It does. We think there was four balls in the game. Oh, that would screw everything up. Because, yes, it did. Because it got confused. It would spit out two balls into the shooter lane, and it had all kinds of confusion going on. Yep. How much do they want for that Iron Maiden?
    64:40
    You know how much a Stern Premium is? Yeah. It would be a little less. A little less. Yeah. $6,500. Yeah.
    64:49
    I asked the guy, I'm like, are you on crack? It was Rob Burke's. I know. Yeah. I know. It was a guy that was running his booth. I'm like, are you on crack? He's like, oh, this is a very rare game. And he starts giving me that stuff. I'm like, no, it's still crack money. And guess what he did? What did he do?
    65:05
    Yeah. I think Jim Swain from the Sanctum should have bought it. Because he could have, we were talking about this. He could have the all-suck wide-body collection. Like the shitty stern wide-body. He could have the Viper, the Iron Maiden.
    65:22
    He could have got a split-second. Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry. Imagine all those. Orbiter One. It's just that ball. Free Fall is kind of, they could go in the middle. Yeah. And then you have your good wide-body side, where you'd have like Cheetah, Big Game, and Flight 2000. You got it. Yeah, that was crack money. That's the $7,500 Theater of Magic that didn't work properly.
    65:52
    Or I saw like a $4,000 No Fear where the – was it $4,000 or $3,400? Where the drop target wasn't working. Excellent. Yeah, yeah. It's just like – is York better for deals? No. Usually Allentown was the best. Yeah. And this year, the past two years, has been really idiotic crack money. And Allentown used to be the best parts place. Yeah, they haven't had – when they used to have the outdoor flea market, the amount of stuff you could find, it doesn't seem to be there anymore. And it's because everything's getting older. Yeah, I think a lot of it's drying up. I mean, gone are the days where you can just get like – A playfield for $50. A Junker Ted Nugent playfield with tons of parts on it. I'll buy that. Yeah. Now I got me some drop targets. Yeah. Those days are kind of gone. Kind of. They're gone, gone.
    66:47
    So you want to tell everyone the good news we have planned for the end of June? Well, before I do that, I have the one thing about Allentown I was going to tell you. Okay. You haven't heard yet. Okay. You'll love this. This was near the end of the – well, not the end of the show. This was almost before he left. The second time I played Black Knight Sword of Rage. Like me and my dad, we go to the front. I did not see it, Dad, at all. I think you kept him in a closet. Yeah, he wasn't actually there. I just lied. He wasn't there at all. But we went to play the – we played actually the same one. I'm thinking about both times. But this little kid comes up to me.
    67:23
    And, you know, I love kids, Bruce. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, usually I ignore kids because I figure they're like – he's going to – whatever. He's like tapping me, and I'm like – I'm trying to ignore him. And then I look over, and I see his dad's there. and he's there you know he wants to tell you something like oh okay so you know it's loud i my hearing sucks so i i get low like oh what do you got to tell me and he's like you've never seen willie walker and the dad's there shakes my hand love the show yeah that was cool yeah so so thank you thank you sir that was awesome i have to say you were a lot of people going through and say Hey, I love the show. Guy behind me on line. We're sitting in line. Me and Kathy. In line. It's not online. In line, online. Blow me line.
    68:16
    We were in line, and we were sitting there talking, and suddenly Guy comes up and goes, Hey, love the show. Thanks for doing this. I was like, Oh, thank you very much. And we talked for a while before we went inside. But a lot of people came up to me and said hi. Kathy actually went. She was actually disappointed with Willy Wonka also.
    68:34
    But thank you, sir. Your son made all the difference in the world, and I have now watched Willy Wonka. Mm-hmm.
    68:43
    Ta-da. I thought that was, even I got a chuckle out of that. I'm like, really? It just, it won't end. I have to watch this movie. Oh, my God. And now I've watched it. My life is now complete. You are complete. So that was Allentown 2019.
    69:03
    Farmer's Market was still awesome. It was awesome. Yeah. I had lunch and dinner there both times, you know, that whole day. Yeah. And if you want to see the finals of the tournament, I believe it was posted to Twitch somewhere. It's also on YouTube now, the finals of the Pinfest tournament. I mention that because our very own Zach did commentary. So check it out. There was a podcast there. What was the podcast that was there at the show?
    69:32
    There was a podcast there at the show? Yeah. Yeah, they're broadcasting, and they actually have a time lapse. It's the Lock Is Lit podcast. They have a time lapse from a GoPro from Friday. So it's on the Allentown Pin Fest Facebook page. You can check that out. Okay. And I looked up the stream. I mean, the Internet was so bad there, they just recorded everything. They couldn't even stream it because the Internet was so horrible. Terrible. Yeah. So it's actually on YouTube. If you just search for Stephen Haberman, or Haberman, probably Haberman, but it's spelled S-T-E-P-H-E-N space H-A-B-E-R-M-A-N, and the entire Pinfest finals are there. You can listen to our very own Zach on commentary.
    70:23
    Oh, my. Speaking of pinball shows, we're going to be in another one. Yes, we are. and you can come visit us and say hi. Where's that going to be, Bruce? At Pintastic. That's right, Pintastic New England, ladies and gentlemen. There will be a podcaster's panel on Friday, and we will be there, the Slam Tilt Podcast, along with Mrs. Pin, Pinball Profile, the Pinball Players Podcast.
    70:51
    So we're slumming it. Is that it? I think I got it all. I think we're slumming it. What do you mean slumming it? You know, we're just too good for these people. We're too good for these people? No. I'm going to come in with the suit, the hat and everything, and I'm going to look like Mr. Pimp. Mr. Pimp's, oh, God.
    71:11
    Yeah. Six-inch heel shoes, you know, I'll be looking pretty fine. Okay. And this will be our first and last ever pinball podcast. Yeah, you know, whenever you get Bruce involved in anything, it ends up being the last one. You ever notice that?
    71:29
    You know, we have the, was it the trash talker with podcasters? Boom, we ruin everything. It's over. It's going back. No, not for podcasters. It ain't. It's in Pentastic, though. Yeah, but we ruined that. So now we're going to have Pentastic. They're never going to have another podcasters panel. Nope. Because, folks, think about this. Bruce is going to be there, and I do not have an edit button. Yes. I cannot edit out all his inappropriate content. Exactly. So this is what you want to see. Yeah. You need to fly yourself out to Massachusetts. Yep. Get your flight right now. Get it right now. And see the goodness. Sturbridge. You've got to go to Sturbridge, Massachusetts. Yes. It's a fantastic show. You want to be there. This is going to be Friday. It's either 7 to 7.30 or 7.30 to 8. I can't remember. I think it's 7. It's one or the other. So get there at 7. Get there. Make sure you're there so you don't miss anything. You want to be in the front. It's almost like Gallagher. You want to be in the front row because then you'll get abused by me.
    72:33
    Gallagher. You want to get there early to be in the front row because it's going to be a packed house. It's going to be like the Texas Pinball Festival was at the Twippies. It's going to be standing room only. There's going to be at least five people there. It's going to be great. Maybe six. Half a fan is going to come in. It's going to be great. If my mom comes, there will be more. Do you know what podcaster panel means? What is a panel? People are going to ask us questions. I guess. And we can talk about how we started this.
    73:01
    I don't know. It's great. We're going to come completely unprepared. I'm dressing up my best clothing.
    73:09
    So you're going to have your best pinball t-shirt on. Nope. I'm going to be really snazzy. Oh, you're actually going to dress up? Oh, yeah. Are you serious? Because I'll dress up if you dress up. Oh, I'm dressing up. But what do you mean dress up? Dress up. No, I don't like the way this sounds. Oh, it's dress up. What are you going to put on?
    73:30
    A James Bond suit? Tuxedo. You're going to wear a tuxedo? Oh, yeah. I am going to be the classiest person there. Classy Freddy Vlassy. Oh, okay. Are you serious? Serious. See, folks, I don't even know if he's serious. Serious, baby. This isn't like when he says he's going to pick up a game in Arkansas, and I know, like, oh, yeah, he's totally serious. I don't know if he's serious here. You'll have to see. Wow. So should I bring a suit? I probably can't fit in my suit now.
    74:00
    I have to lose some weight. That would be weird to, like, just be all dressed up. But then I'd have to be dressed up the whole show, and that would suck. No, you have your room upstairs, so you can go change again. Well, I'm not staying there. I'm at the one that's right next to there. The Motel 8 or 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, whatever it is. I'm not actually saying it's a server hotel this time. Yeah. Got a deal on the other hotel. They both use the same parking lot. So it doesn't really matter. Nice. So be there, be square. We're promoting. Fantastic New England. We're promoting so well. We didn't even say what dates it is. What are the dates? I think it's the last weekend in June. You think it's the last week in June. You don't know. You know, if we're going to promote something, we really should be more prepared. Yes. June 27th through June 30th. Thursday through Sunday. Sturbridge, Massachusetts at the Sturbridge Hotel. Incredible podcast panel action. You'll be out of your seat.
    75:03
    The only way you'll miss it is if you're in jail. And if you are, break out. I don't know. I'm using these Simpsons lines now. I don't know how I feel about it after they just completely – Trashed New York State? Trashed. No, they trashed Upstate. New York Upstate. Yeah. But guess what? If you go to Pentastic, not only will you see us, you have a chance to see Mike TV, Charlie Bucket, and Veluca Salt. You do? You do. Oh, they're going to be there? They are going to be there. Oh, wow. Cool. You can get the meet and greet package. Excellent. And if you go to see the Jersey Jack seminar, they usually have pizza. Yes. I'm just saying. Just saying it. I'm just saying. Let's see. That's all I have on my list because we had no mail. No. No mail. No ball bag. The ball bag is still empty. The ball bag is empty. We need to fill that. We need to fill the ball bag. I don't want to have, like, if you don't feel the, yeah, feel. Feel. You want to fill my ball bag? If you don't fill the ball bag, we won't have another episode until after Pintastic. There. I'm going to threaten you. Ooh. Fill my ball bag. We need a letter. We haven't had a letter from the Pinball Princess in, like, forever. I know. She must not like us anymore. Either that or she's, like, two months behind in episodes. Oh, but I did get a message from Mr. Franchi. Oh, okay. He's not leaving Stern. Oh, he's not leaving Stern. He called out some other brain debtor that thought he was. Okay. So you heard it here, folks, except for the other podcast he was on where he already said that. Oh, wait a sec. What? I have breaking news. You have breaking news? Oh, my. Yeah, I want to see what your reaction is. I know you don't notice yet. Okay, okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. All right, let me brace myself. I brace myself in my chair. Okay, what is it? Okay, do you know who Elizabeth Banks is?
    76:58
    No. Okay, go into your Google. Go into my Google as opposed to anyone else's Google. Yep, it's your Google. All right, I'm going to go and look up Elizabeth Banks. Let's see what comes up. I want to see if you've actually seen the movies. That's what I want to see first. Elizabeth Banks is an American actress.
    77:16
    What the hell was she in? Hunger Games. Have you ever seen any of Hunger Games? No. Okay. Ron, this is one part why I did this, because, Ron, you need to start watching more movies. No, I don't. Yeah, you kind of do. No. She is going to be hosting the all-new, are you ready for it, Steve? Steve, are you ready for it? Press your luck. What does that have to do with pinball? I thought you were going to say, like, this proves that Hunger Games pinball is coming out or something. No, Steve always brings up he'd love to have a press your luck pinball machine. That's where it all comes back to. So because they're redoing the show, which they've already done once before, remember they had Whammy, the new press your luck or whatever, which sucked. Yes. But, you know, you can't replace Peter Tworkin. Well, unfortunately, you have to. I know, but there's only one period to mark it. But unfortunately, you have to. Ugh. You said, Jim. From television studios in Hollywood, it's time to press your luck. Dun, dun, dun-dun-dun, dun-dun-dun, dun-dun-dun-dun. The difference is Steve saw it in syndication. I saw it when it was, like, live. Well, not live, but when it was on the air. That's how old I am. I used to stay around before, what's it called? I believe it was on right before Price is Right. It was. It had the primo spot.
    78:40
    Anything else? These three players are after big bucks, but they'll have to avoid the whammy because they play the most exciting game of their lives. Just the intro is epic. And the whole thing moved. Oh, yeah, the whole. Oh, I love that. We need more set pieces like that in today's game shows. We need entire things to move.
    79:00
    You can memorize all 36,000 patterns. Or the original three patterns or whatever they used that the one guy memorized. Yeah. I know. Oh, that was so awesome.
    79:11
    Oh, man. Let's see. I think that's it. So this has been Episode 128 of the Slam Tilt Podcast. Thanks to all our pin friends out there. We have Fun With Bonus, Steve Bowden, HiZak, Pinball Profile, Mrs. Pin, Pinball Players Podcast.
    79:31
    Who else? I'm missing people. Pinball Profile, all the Jeffs. Hi, Jeff, Jeff and Jeff. Shout out to the Pinball Nerds Podcast, because he mentioned us on the latest episode of Pinball Profile, or one of the latest episodes of Pinball Profile. Nice. Yes, Albert, you did the old, hi, goodbye, Albert, our gimmick at the end of the show. Yes. So he was excited because he thought we mentioned the podcast, but we just said his name. So now we're mentioning his podcast. Yes, hi. Check it out, Pinball Nerds Podcast. and he has like way more episodes than us. He's like at 189 already. What, like three minutes each? No, they're like maybe 15 minutes to an hour or half an hour. Okay, so we still got them on time. Yeah, but they're like every other day.
    80:16
    Is that it? That's it? You know, we don't do any advertisements or like slug anyone anymore. Oh, but don't forget Pinball Lifter. Yes, www.pinballlifter.com. Use your brain, not your back. And check us out. We sell lifters, wheel kits, helpers, all the fun stuff. Do you have a website? We do, www.pinballlifter.com. I hear you own a bar, too. I do. The Silver Ball Saloon in East Rochester, New York, 135 West Commercial Street in East Rochester. Come and check us out with 26 pinball machines, including the new Swords of Rage Black Knight, Batman 66, and Beatles Gold. Black Knight Sword of Rage. With old sterns, too. Old stern and ballys. Have you got the toast in there yet? No, not yet. For those who are wondering, what the fuck is toast? We're talking about catacomb. Catacomb. Because it does look like toast. It does look like toast. I can't wait to see how that earns. You know, you keep thinking it's going to be... I think people are just going to be like, huh? Now, wait a sec. When you said that about hotdogging... Yeah, I was wrong. I was wrong. The proof is in the cash box. It is in the cash box. People, I did not realize people like skiers with porn mustaches, but they do. They do. Who would have thunk it? Yes. Stars actually slowed down a little bit, so who knows? Maybe stars will be leaving for a couple months. You know, I think people just got sick of getting destroyed by stars. Well, now they have Black Knight, so it's like the same thing. Or Beatles. It's not like Beatles is easy either. Beatles is easier than Black Knight. What's with all these really hard games? What's wrong with them? Don't they know people want really long playing games? Play better. Holy shit. This has been episode 128. This is Steve Ritchie. Thanks, everybody. Say goodbye, Bruce. Hold on. I had it, and then you screwed me all up with the other thing. Oh, my, my. I had her name. Can you boogie? Oh, yeah. Can you slide? Oh, yeah. Oh, my, my. Are you ready? Are we ready for the big finish? Yep. Okay, ready, folks? This is take two. Thanks, everybody. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Elsie Brunkle.
    82:56
    Oh my Cheer up, honey. We're headed to the one place that can never decline. Because it was never that great. Upstate New York.
    83:39
    Start watching Fox News. Stop watching your weight There is no fancy part of it Upstate New York They're fond of their booze But wing sauce is great I'm gonna clock my heart in it Upstate New York I wanna sleep in, in a city that never wakes, and find I'm fit and right in one of the gates, far for the course, the codec plan's closed. But I'm longing to stay And go on disability In upstate New York Can't make it anywhere But I can make it there I love you so Upstate New York
    85:01
    Benedict Arnold fought here, baby!