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EP 6 - Pinball Confessions

Flip n Out Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 4m·analyzed·Aug 21, 2025
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TL;DR

Hosts share listener confessions about hidden pinball habits and restoration tips in casual podcast format.

Summary

Flippin' Out Pinball Podcast EP6 features hosts Ken Cromwell and Greg Bone discussing pinball restoration techniques (particularly using a tumbler for metal polish) and soliciting humorous 'pinball confessions' from listeners about secret habits, machine purchases, and tournament violations. The episode includes fan-submitted stories ranging from spousal subterfuge around pinball spending to exploiting stuck balls during gameplay, mixed with broader discussions about desired horror-themed pinball games.

Key Claims

  • Greg Bone finished restoring Tales from the Crypt pinball after initial hesitation, eventually placing it in his basement after tumbler restoration improved its condition significantly

    high confidence · Greg describes detailed restoration process, tumbler purchase from Harbor Freight for ~$70, and final decision to keep machine in basement

  • Lucas Oil gunmetal polish is more effective for pinball part restoration than generic metal polish when used in a tumbler

    medium confidence · Greg references contacting Carrie Hardy about polish recommendation and positive results; acknowledges learning from research

  • Friday the 13th pinball licensing is a 'nightmare' with licenses held in multiple places across different entities

    medium confidence · Ken reports conversation with Spooky Pinball years ago; claims licensing complexity is the barrier despite potential for Jason character-focused game

  • Spooky Pinball released Evil Dead and Halloween pinball games as notable horror titles in the genre

    high confidence · Both hosts reference these games as recent horror pinball releases; Greg mentions Evil Dead is difficult to find/acquire

  • Modern Stern pinball backbox keys differ from older Sega/Data East keys and cannot be interchanged

    medium confidence · Ken describes attempting to use Sega key on early Stern game, getting it stuck, requiring pliers and hammer to remove

  • Running custom/movie code on pinball machines affects code updates and warranty coverage

    medium confidence · Greg references warranty violations when running custom code; admits uncertainty about impact of code updates on modified installations

  • Tournament pinball players take rule adherence and equipment integrity seriously, reacting negatively to exploited stuck balls or malfunctioning machines

    high confidence · Ken references tournament scene reaction to ball stuck during multiball exploit; describes tournament players as 'insane' about rule violations

Notable Quotes

  • “Time, time, time, time is what is on your side with this. Let it run overnight, 24 hours I think minimum.”

    Greg Bone @ ~5:00-6:00 — Practical restoration tip for tumbler polishing; core advice for using affordable ($70) Harbor Freight equipment effectively

  • “I want a pinball machine where I would feel uncomfortable playing it by myself in the dark”

    Ken Cromwell @ ~15:00 — Expression of desire for genuinely scary horror pinball experience; establishes Ken's design philosophy preference

  • “I spoke with Spooky, man, because I've championed that behind closed doors for years... It's a licensing nightmare that, you know, the licenses are just held all over the place.”

    Ken Cromwell @ ~18:00 — Direct industry source claim about Friday the 13th licensing complexity; insider knowledge from manufacturer discussion

  • “There's a reason he kept that a secret, because those fucking people will chop your head off. Like, you've never seen... people get insane.”

    Greg Bone @ ~38:00 — Commentary on tournament community enforcement and seriousness; illustrates competitive pinball culture intensity

  • “You cannot believe how many people... would be surprised about how many people that I get emails from that can't find the keys.”

    Greg Bone @ ~25:00 — Observation about common customer service issue with new pinball owners; indicates widespread machine familiarization gap

  • “Raymond types he comes in and he posts that picture of the apron... that's every single forum group every discussion”

    Ken Cromwell @ ~45:00 — Humorous commentary on Raymond's repetitive sharing of Guns N' Roses apron story across community; illustrates tight-knit community gossip dynamics

  • “So he's got one of the rare Slash autographs where Slash signs his name, Slash, and then he puts the year in which he autographed it... and occasionally he draws like this little figure like it's a little art figure”

    Ken Cromwell @ ~48:00 — Details of rare collectible autographed apron; demonstrates value placed on unique band-signed pinball memorabilia

Entities

Ken CromwellpersonGreg BonepersonCarrie HardypersonZachpersonSpooky PinballcompanyRaymondpersonEric Meinierperson

Signals

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    community_signal: Flippin' Out Podcast actively soliciting listener participation through social media 'pinball confessions' campaign with anonymous submission option and bonus Patreon content strategy

    high · Ken describes collecting confessions, setting up anonymous email line, plan to release additional content on Patreon; indicates recurring engagement strategy

  • ?

    event_signal: Guns N' Roses international tour facilitated rare pinball memorabilia signing event (2020); apron obtained rare Slash signatures with dated year notation and occasional hieroglyph art mark

    high · Ken provides detailed description of Raymond's Slash autograph variants; references Eric Meinier video documentation of band meet-up arrangement

  • ?

    community_signal: Flippin' Out Pinball and The Pinball Show (Zach/Dennis) coordinate podcast scheduling to avoid direct competition and maximize listener content frequency across platforms

    medium · Ken describes deliberate staggered scheduling approach: 'We want to try to give you constant, constant communication and constant content every single week'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Tournament pinball community enforces strict rules around equipment integrity and exploitation; players view stuck ball exploitation as serious violation warranting social ostracism

    high · Greg: 'Tournament players get serious... those fucking people will chop your head off' regarding stuck ball exploitation during gameplay

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Ken Cromwell explicitly advocating for genuinely scary horror pinball experiences as underserved market niche; contrasts with perception that pinball must be 'hokey fun' despite horror themes

Topics

Pinball restoration and maintenanceprimaryHorror-themed pinball games and design philosophyprimaryCommunity confessions and listener engagementprimarySpousal dynamics and hiding pinball purchasessecondaryTournament rules and competitive integritysecondaryPinball licensing challenges and IP complexitysecondaryCustom code and warranty implicationsmentionedPinball collectibles and memorabiliamentioned

Sentiment

positive(0.78)— Hosts maintain upbeat, humorous tone throughout. Genuine enthusiasm for horror pinball genre and community engagement. Light-hearted ribbing of listener confessions and each other. Positive reception of restoration process and tumbler effectiveness. Some frustration expressed about licensing barriers (Friday the 13th) and tournament rule violations, but framed as industry observations rather than personal grievance.

Transcript

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Hey, what's going on pinball land? And welcome to episode six. That is zero six of the flipping out pinball podcast. My name is Ken Cromwell with me today. As always, the co-hosts with the most, Mr. Greg bone. Greg, what's up, man? Not much, man. Ready to get my pinball on. I know. It's been a few weeks since we got on the microphones. We were kind of trying to stagger it up a little bit, opposite of Zach's The Pinball Show with Zach and Dennis over there. So we want to try to give you constant, constant communication and constant content every single week, whether that's from The Pinball Show or the Flip N Out Pinball Podcast. You just recently finished up a little something-something that we've been promoting on social media. Yeah, I finished up that Tales. uh again like kind of what i explained on there i knew what i was getting myself into i i you know what was going to be kind of uh i honestly i don't know if i was going to do anything with it i was going to put it in the house and then when you know i folded the head up and stuff outside i was like yeah that's not coming in the house that's uh it's pretty it's pretty pretty gnarly miss this miss the cut so you didn't bring it downstairs you didn't put it in the uh in the game room no no so you know i mean again like i said and then once i started looking it over then it just compounds it's just it's just a good shop job just a really heavy duty shop job you know tearing everything down and then um you know this was the first time that i had used a tumbler i went and bought a tumbler because i was like man i am so over hand polishing all these parts and i just don't know if this game is worth it so i went and went and got a tumbler and got some walnut media for it um and then you know i bought some some polish metal polish because everything i read you know everything i was looking at you gotta add metal polish in there man it speeds everything up it just makes it so much nicer so i bought this shit and it just it just didn't do very much and you know i didn't leave the parts in there for a ton of time maybe 12 hours or so but it still just was not doing hardly anything so um you know i contacted uh carrie hardy because i know carrie He had, you know, did a video of it, and I was like, hey, man, because he was using this Lucas Oil gunmetal polish. And I was like, how did you like that stuff? And he was like, oh, dude, like, it's awesome. So I was like, okay, shit, I'm breaking down, buying another $20 bottle of something. And I broke down, bought that, put that in there. Dude, oh, it saved so much time, and the parts turned out gorgeous. And, you know, I did learn something that, you know, if you do some research, you'll find. But for anybody out there that's looking at getting a tumbler, I bought just a cheap one from Harbor Freight. I think I paid like $70. But time, time, time, time is what is on your side with this. Let it run overnight, 24 hours I think minimum. Are you just like taking random things from the house and throwing it into the tumbler? Because I got into that habit when I bought a power washer once to kind of take out some stuff on a patio. And then I just found myself power washing everything that I possibly could. It sounds like it'd be similar with a tumbler. So you're not wrong, dude. It's so funny you say that because you're not wrong at all. So I had the old ball because I couldn't find anything else to really stick in there, but I was still just intrigued by it. So I always keep, just because I'll randomly do a game or two a year that just comes in that I want to clean up. So I keep like strange things like leg levelers. I'm really anal about like dirty leg levelers coming into my house and stuff. So, you know, I'll always keep a stock of new leg levelers. You do like a nice, sterile, clean zone. Yes, yes. I freak out, dude. I wipe everything down. I appreciate that. I try to sterilize the game. And so I had the old legs, which weren't – or the old feet, levelers off of tails. And so I had the old balls out of there too, which weren't in bad shape, but I was like, I'm still putting new balls in. So after I was done with everything, I was like, I'm just going to toss these in for overnight. Dude, still cleaned up. Those balls look so damn good. And they're so – Dude, the balls turned out pretty good. Yeah, and I had no use for any of that shit. I don't know if I'll ever use it, but I was just intrigued by throwing something else in there and seeing what it does. But it turned out really actually beyond my expectations on how well that game cleaned up. So, yeah, I was super, super, super happy with that, man. And now it is in the basement. So, wait. So, where is it? It is in the basement. Okay, that's where I misunderstood because I knew originally you thought it would end up in the basement. And then I just misunderstood. Oh, yeah, yeah. It cleaned up enough, man. And I put some flips on it in the garage. Honestly, dude, I kind of like it. I like the rules. It wasn't bad. I mean, again, you know, everybody that knows me knows that I am a sucker for my data East and Sega's. But, dude, it shoots. It shoots good. It's, again, good rule set. Great theme. So, you know, I'm happy with it so far. So you think you're going to hang out to it for a little bit? If the right trade offer came in, would you part with it? I mean, where are you at as far as the honeymoon phase goes? Yeah, I won't promote it or do anything through. You know, man, I'm kind of like you. I get all good. There's no deal of the week going on here on Tales from the Crypt? No, no. See, I'll hold on to it until at least after Halloween because I get giddy with fall and I love all my horror stuff. So, like, I'll play the hell out of it for the next couple months until then. And maybe after that hit November, I might get rid of it. We need more horror pins, man. Like, I was totally stoked when Spooky did Evil Dead. I mean, that's a movie that I grew up with. I don't want to say as a kid. It's not like I was a toddler and my dad's throwing on Evil Dead. But I was young enough to where it was impressionable. And then to kind of have that genre come over to pinball is, is cool for me. I liked seeing that, that they did a Halloween I thought was awesome. It tends like a lot of the scarier stuff that could be scary comes across as hokey because pinball is supposed to be fun, but I just want like a, a terrorizing pin again, spooky Texas chainsaw massacre, another just terrifying pin. I love that genre. We need to see more of it in my opinion. Yeah. I want like a, you know, Zach and I discussed this a lot and stuff. Cause yeah, I'm, I'm a big horror fan like you. Like I love the, the, you know, you're, I don't know. I say that, but you're kind of more supernatural kind of spirit stuff, aren't you? I can go either way. I mean, that's why I love Halloween so much because it kind of covers all of that. You know, it's ghosts. It's paranormal. It's just serial killers. It's anything. Yes, I agree. Okay, good. So, yeah. So, I mean, I'm in the same boat as you. Like, I just, I love anything horror like that. And so I'm always champing for, you know, a good horror pin. But I'm like you as well. Like, Zach and I have talked. I want something scary. like i want a scary pin you know one thing that was super scary that oddly enough i mean it belonged in the game it was fun but do you remember the screaming banshee in ghostbusters that they put in that game oh my gosh a bitch would just rail at you and freak you out that was that was a blood-curdling scream that would come out dwight coded that in there yes it scared the hell out of yes to where i mean there should have almost been some type of disclaimer there because could you imagine just going through your house and this has happened to people one two in the morning you've got that game on downstairs you just hear a terrifying blood-curdling scream you don't know what's going on you know if you're packing you're grabbing your gun you're going downstairs you're you're shooting up the place it's uh it's nuts but it's but just i want to i want a pinball machine that i want a pinball machine where i would feel uncomfortable playing it by myself in the dark yes or or you know what i mean like something that just gives you that that little bit of uncertainty like something's off here that that would be cool yeah i dude i agree i agree the only pin that comes close doing that to me is a funhouse that fucking rudy just staring at you ironically funhouse right yeah i don't like heads on playfields man yeah i could see that i could see that i hate clowns i hate clowns so like anything like that and dummy like i hate i hate those freaking porcelain dolls like i hate any of that shit man it's like oh good gives me the creeps is there a horror theme that you would like to see oh my god yeah man for sure Two of them, very specifically. But I think, well, actually three. I'll say three. Number one, man, I think we need a Friday the 13th. 100%. Oh, yeah. That's kind of the low-hanging fruit. Yeah. Well, and I spoke with Spooky, man, because I've championed that behind closed doors for years. And, you know, I spoke to them years ago about it. And they said, I guess, basically that it's a licensing nightmare that, you know, the licenses are just held all over the place. It's just a bunch of issues with it. I'm surprised because it's not like there's, I mean, the actor's behind a mask. I mean, you know what I mean? The main character, Jason Voorhees. I'm trying to think, was there any, like, top talent in there where you'd have to go out and try to figure out? No, no, because, like, Kane Hoder, who did, you know, play Jason more than anybody, I mean, he's super accessible. And, again, I mean, what are you going to do? He's not going to be getting out and doing call-outs or anything. That's exactly what I was thinking. We got all the call-outs from Jason Voorhees. Dude, that's the way I would, I swear to God, I would put that on the flyers just to make people think. Yes, yes. Because that would be hilarious. Complete narration. Right, that would be pretty funny. You wouldn't even have to get Marc Silk to do it. Like, it would just be, it'd be natural, which is great. I'm dead, that's so perfect. But yeah, that's obviously, like, number one to me. Then I think that we could use an updated, really good Nightmare on Elm Street. Now that's a game that, dude, you could add some good creep factor into, I think. Sure. And then just kind of hokey fun just while Brad Dorf is around, man, I've championed this too. We need a child's play. That would just, it just lends itself because of the humor. I mean, same thing, honestly, with Nightmare on Elm Street. I mean, look at the off-kilter kind of dirty, end-of-window humor that, you know, Freddy makes and stuff. Like, that would just be perfect for pinball. Perfect. Yeah, I haven't gone back to watch the Nightmare on Elm Street since such a long time. I think I was in probably junior high around the time those movies were coming out. But they were scary, man. Like, you didn't want to go to sleep for a little bit. Yeah, it's got that bone-chilling effect. I would like to see, and again, it's probably not an A-plus tier license, but as far as, like, horror themes and paranormal, I would love to see the original Poltergeist come out. And, you know, you could have that LCD just with the fuzzy kind of screen where it's like, they're here. That's just cool stuff to me. uh exorcist is this is just a terrifying movie i would not want to see that in a pinball machine like anything that has anything to do with that it's like it's over the top for me yeah but with halloween coming up it's it's top of mind for me and uh i gotta get more time on halloween and uh evil dead is just impossible to come by you know i played it a few times at some of the pinball shows and i enjoyed it a lot and it's just like i don't know i don't know the next time i'll ever play it i'd love to own it don't know that that ever happens but you know good on spooky for bringing the genre to mainstream for us. I agree. And we're going to have to work on, like, Zach always gets pissed off at me. I'm one of those people that grew up, remember, like when you'd watch your sitcoms and stuff and all your shows would have, like, the Halloween special or Christmas special. So, like, I always loved doing that. It was straight down the middle, doing Halloween episodes and stuff. So we're going to have to work out one or two really good Halloween episodes for October for this show. How do you think this would work out for a theme? You take one of the more iconic pinball themes in The Simpsons, but you just do Treehouse of Horror. Oh, I think you could do it. That's still super popular, and there's so much content. It's fun. It's perfect. So over the last couple of weeks, Greg, we were asking a question on our social media, again, getting everybody engaged, taking part in the show, and we were wondering what everybody's pinball confession was. And that was something that was a secret that was so deep, only yourself or very few people knew about it and we even opened up the anonymous email line in case somebody needed to drop something serious and believe it or not we got a couple in there too that people that did not want to be named but had pinball stories which i thought were pretty fun so if you're all right with it what we'll do is we'll there were a lot of them right so we're going to cover some of them here on the podcast we're going to take the rest of them we're going to include that as part of the bonus content i can't talk greg man i i tell you what i had I'm on such shit sleep the last two nights like I'm beside myself. I don't even know what's going on. But we're going to take the rest of that content. We're going to put it as bonus content over at Patreon. And you can go to patreon.com slash Flippin' Up Pinball Podcast. This isn't going to be in any particular order. So let's read some of these. I'll only use first names on these stories. And then we can offer a little bit of commentary back and forth. And then at some point, I don't know. I would love to hear if you've got a confession or two. I think I've got two or three that I may or may not have ever shared, and I thought it'd be fun. But are you ready to go? Are you ready to go, Greg? Let's rock it. Let's do it. All right, this one's from Mike, and I thought this was genius. He says, when my wife's asleep, I take her phone and I Google the newest pin releases and the best pinball mods so that they show up on her targeted ads when she's awake. That's kind of good. It's just so amazing. It's so diabolical. diabolical it's like you're just you're dropping the bomb nobody knows your his wife's probably thinking my gosh the phone is listening to us talk because all these pinball machines and all these mods keep coming up on my uh on my targeted ads but i thought i thought that was actually genius yeah there's a guy mike says this is insidious and it's fantastic but it is definitely uh it is definitely pretty epic thank you thank you targeted ads thank you targeted ads Another one from Scott. I quote-unquote won my Black Knight Sword of Rage topper. So another instance where somebody probably doesn't want to disclose to their significant other how much they spent on a piece of pinball or pinball money. Ken, Ken, this is no lie. So a guy who probably only lives about 20 minutes away from me, we've become pretty good friends through pinball, and then I found out that I'd went to school with his sister-in-law and some stuff, and we've become pretty good friends or whatever. And he's a super straight shooting guy, man, and everything. Good, good guy. And he was telling me a story earlier on. This is no lie. So they were out in Vegas, and his brother was into pinball and stuff too and everything as well. And they lied. They bought a game and had it shipped and said that they freaking won the game out in Vegas. Oh, my gosh. When they were playing through a contest. See? That's crazy. What game was it? Do you know? no i can't remember he told me what it was but i can't remember what it was and straight up told his wife that they won that so he could get that that game for some reason i think it was kiss that's so funny i mean it's dangerous at some point you feel like that's gonna slip up and you're gonna be like remember when we bought that game in vegas and she's gonna be like wait what do you mean you bought it you mean you want it but do you know but but i feel that that's something that you're on like a time frame with like you know a few years down the road you're having a you drink you start laughing about it that's exactly right because the story is so uh deceiving and epic that at some point it just comes all is forgiven and you hope that time had healed all wounds and uh you know it's when you go to sell that game that you won and you get a couple a couple thousand four or five six thousand dollars back that's when the wife's like all right hey time for me to collect a little bit let's go let's go that's the only bad thing is this she's like you won the damn game so you give me a cut of it didn't cost you everything yeah that's exactly I share. And you know what? Fair enough. I can totally get it. This one's from Armando. He says, I spent over an hour looking for the backbox key to a pre-owned machine that I purchased from Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. Good on you, Armando, for getting your used game from Flip N Out Pinball. He says, I looked in every crevice of the machine and I couldn't find it, even went as far as to email Zach and say, you know, maybe he forgot to include it. So I gave up frustrated. The wife comes home from work and she finds the key within 30 seconds. And guess what? It was right where it supposed to be inside the coin door I just somehow overlooked it multiple times Have you ever not been able to find the stupid key inside the coin door Because honestly God that happened to me a few times I haven had a Well so I did my very first game, and let me just say this. You cannot believe how many people, and there are a lot of new people getting into the hobby, so I get it. But you would be surprised about how many people that I get emails from that can't find the keys. Or sometimes, I mean, sometimes it's kind of legitimate they slide off and it'll fall down into the cabinet but they just don't think to look in the cabinet and stuff but it happens all the time but but my very first uh new stern that i had gotten i had because my my head keys for my um you know i got the sega showcase on my lost world that that key i mean it was just prominent and you know it was sticking in the head when i got the game and for some reason i thought unlike these modern modern sterns because i had a star trek i didn't know any different i just thought it used the same key well i was able to jam that key into that freaking headlock and get that thing to actually open up with the door key but then i couldn't get the key out and i had to get like a pair of pliers and grab onto that key and then kind of tap it with a hammer to get it out and then that's what i'd called zach and i was like dude this key is shit it's just rough he's like it uses a separate key right that's exactly right yeah i said oh shit that's my fault all right so we've got jason who chimes in here on the flipping out pinball podcast he says hey guys uh my wife's just getting into pinball she's really enjoying it i always take player two that she can play first and then on my third ball i always let her have it too to get more practice see that's a nice guy uh he goes on to say i always try to have a multiball ready so that she can go in and luck into one of those on my last ball and i'll admit it i play worse on purpose when we play so i don't take long and so she feels like we're close in skill oh yeah you have to my wife mike when we got my first uh my first pin uh we were played as a family all the time me and her compete she would whoop my ass a lot and then no way again like that yeah obsession i got better and better she played less and less because of that now when we play she's like i don't want to play with you you take too long yeah you take too long so i have to i have to be very forgiving give her extra balls again if i want to dial it back a little bit like and is it you just not trying or you're just trying to like create more risk shots for yourself i mean yeah i just give up sometimes i just stop playing like here oh geez oops oh geez well you know happy wife happy life i i you know and it doesn't have to be the wife i'm there are plenty of wives out there who are who are crushing their husbands and they probably lay back on the gas all right so we've got another one here it's from uh nate he says i run quote-unquote movie code whenever possible you ever run the movie code where if you just you run i assume on jurassic park you got some movie on there or is that something that that you can't i would never do that you're warranty greg so not at all that's terrible have you once have you once heard of somebody that ran the movie code on a on a jurassic park pin i have heard of those disgusting people oh that's that's yeah violating that warranty stay out of there um i don't know is that as prominent right now with with i assume when there's code updates and i'm not just not as familiar with it um if you're running some type of movie code custom movie code on a game and there's an update does it just kind of brick the old uh yeah i don't know If it bricks it? I don't know what happens, honestly, if you update. I know it makes it not function. I mean, I doubt that it would rewrite everything. So, yeah, I kind of don't know what it does. Honestly, that's kind of a good question. How would you know? Yeah, how would I know? You don't run that. I don't have no idea. Taylor says, all my high scores are with the glass off. Well, you know, it is what it is. Sometimes you've got to slide that glass off. That's real dirty. Yeah, I don't like that. But, you know, we're not here to judge. That's what these confessions are for. I don't know. I'm judging him a little bit. A little bit? A little bit. Just a little tiny amount. Got to play with the glass, huh? I have had people that would come over here and blow up my games and just decimate my high scores, you know, and that depresses me. That gets me. I would never take the glass off to remanipulate the high scores, but, yeah, I don't like it. That being said, I'm not high score driven. I'm more, you know me, I'm more about the pinball moments, the light shows, exploring the modes, trying to get through the game type of thing. Agreed. Matthew says, I take my wife to arcades and I get her to fall in love with different pins so that when I buy it, she doesn't yell at me. I think that's a pretty good tactic. You have to. Yeah. Sometimes it's a necessity. I notice a lot of the men here, and I guess that makes sense, right? Because pinball's predominantly male, but a lot of the men tiptoeing around upsetting the wife. So I, you know, or I can appreciate keeping the wife happy. You want to make sure you're trying to be honest. That's all I'll say. 100 percent. Trevor comes in. He says pinballs cost about the same as a new TV. If the wife ever asks with with new TVs now being anywhere between, I don't know, 300 bucks and $500. You can pick up like an 85 inch TV for like $800. You're not even wrong, man. I was in Costco the other day and I think there was an 85 inch TCL or something like that was like 699. It's like I would almost just take that and just use it for a year and throw it out. Jim, Jim chimes in and he says, I really enjoy Spectrum leftover code for Mr. and Ms. Pac-Man and all dot, dot, dot. I have no idea what that is. I do you know what Spectrum code is for Ms. Pac-Man? No, that's new to me. I don't even know. I guess I guess there's some there's got to be something nefarious in there if he's using it as his opportunity to confess. I know. So John offers this confession. He says, one time at league night, I got a ball stuck during a two-ball multiball, and I kept playing to rack up the points. And he says that he knows that he's going to go to hell for that one. I give you kudos on that one. Is that taboo? While dirty, I give you kudos. Well, you've run tournaments, right, at your location? Oh, yeah. You've got games? I don't know much about the tournament scene. Oh, dude, people get insane. Like, there's a reason he kept that a secret, because those fucking people will chop your head off. Like, you've never seen... So is that illegal, though, if the game's malfunctioning? Can you just exploit it, or does that nullify a ball? I technically don't know. I would assume that you're not allowed to, and you would have to try to beat it and bang it loose at some point or tell them, like, oh, I got two balls stuck during this. Well, that's the thing. Like, how would you know? Yeah, I don't know. I'd play that one ball. Sometimes if somebody's paying attention and watching, and I don't, you know, because sometimes people hover and linger. But, dude, yeah, they, tournament players get serious, so I don't blame them. Yeah, I've seen people play extra balls before by accident or start someone else's game. Oh, holy shit. Yeah, well, yeah, I can see that, too. I've done that. I accidentally jump in on an extra ball or not play it. Oh, yeah. All right, so we got Raymond. Raymond says, he says, Ken, me, I'm aware of a secret. He says, Ken is aware of, I'm going to read this verbatim. Ken is aware of my secret since he was part of the aftermath. It's keeping the location a secret where a certain band stayed that signed my pinball machine. he and eric eric minier uh made a nice video about that experience when he was at jjp and that's uh that's raymond our buddy from overseas i don't know why he's saying that this is a confession because uh you know bless raymond here this guy's posted this story in every single forum group every discussion i've ever seen anybody that ever mentions guns and roses uh if they're thinking about getting a game or something unique that happened to their game raymond types he comes in and he posts that picture of the apron that he got slash and axel and duff all to sign and that was Eric kind of set that up to where G&R was playing overseas, and he arranged for Raymond to drop off his apron at the hotel. Slash grabbed it, took it to the band, they signed it, brought it back. Raymond ended up dropping off some little candies for Slash, Slash liked that. But he's got one of the rare Slash autographs where Slash signs his name, Slash, and then he puts the year in which he autographed it. So, for instance, on Guns N' Roses, when that game came out in 2020, the promotional posters and anything that we had out it says slash 2020 but raymond has one that has slash the year and then occasionally and i don't know what triggers this for slash but he draws like this little figure like it's a little art figure it's like a hieroglyph or something and uh yeah it's cool so he's got that on his apron dude that's super awesome happy he's happy that's good but you know what we did learn from this is that uh you cannot trust raymond with a secret because he's going to tell everybody every chance he gets it's so funny he's he's like ken is aware of this secret but uh you know what half half the world is aware of that secret and i i appreciate you bringing it up uh this one's from billy he says everybody already knows tim lee's pinball secret uh but will still be worth hearing again for a good laugh surprisingly let him back this year so uh maybe down the episode we get into tim lee's i know i saw that it made me curious i'm like will somebody please speak out on tim I want to hear Tim's secret. And we'll see. We'll see if it comes up here. Oh, we're going to start doing some investigative journalism over here at Flip N Out Pinball. That's right. That's right. Another one from Jeff. Full disclosure, this is a buddy of mine, and he's asking me, I assume. He says, will our adventures picking up machines in Logan Square and Lincolnshire make the cut? I will keep that story. I will not be confessing that story. There are two stories there where it was just crazy. I'll tell that story down the road. Maybe I'll tell it for bonus content, but those were some good pinball adventures. Jeff, appreciate you listening to the show, buddy. Congratulations on retirement. Although he's not retired. Jeff retired recently, only to go back to work part-time because he's that kind of a guy. So good on you, Jeff. This one's from, yeah. It's an expensive hobby. Sometimes you can't retire when you're in trouble. Oh, I know. I know. It is. It is. This one's from Anthony. He says, played buck naked one night and had a mishap with the plunger. that's as far as I could share. So my mind went to two things. You either got some reverberation that hit something, or you got something tucked into the spring that you shouldn't have got tucked into the spring. Terrible. That's terrible. I didn't know where to go with that. I wasn't sure where he was going to go with that. It's like there's something about Mary, the pinball edition. There was a guy, this other guy is, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. He also follows up. I don't know. I just know what to say about it. You know, that's a vulnerable area for the men, the action zone right there. And whether it was a nudge or something got pulled on accident, I don't know. But we'll keep the speculation open on that. This one's from Jeremy. He says, great job. Well, hey, you know, just a comment from Jeremy. He says, great job bringing the listeners into the episodes. This is becoming more and more into a great podcast, and we appreciate that, Jeremy. It's taken a little bit of a different approach. We'll cover the news when it's necessary and big, but I think it's just fun entertainment-wise, bringing everybody in to participate in the show, and it's worked out well for us. Listenership has been outstanding, and we appreciate that. All right, so all of those, Greg, were all out in the public as far as they were posted on our socials, whether that's the Flip N Out Pinball podcast, social media pages, or Flip N Out Pinball Facebook. You could go ahead and check those out. This is where it gets a little bit deeper. We got a couple that came in through the anonymous email line that we had offered. And we're going to go. This one's a little bit lengthy. It's not terribly long. And I'm going to read it verbatim. I am not going to change. I'm not going to edit because it is somebody's confession. Are you ready for this one, Greg? Yes. All right. It says, hey, dudes. Love the show. This is a pretty embarrassing story, so please don't use my name, LOL. It's a little bit gross as well. I'm not even sure if it's funny, but it's my pinball secret. The fact that you don't just start something off like that, that it's kind of gross, not really sure it's funny, guys, but here it is. I feel like he needs to get it off his chest, assuming it's a guy. We'll see. He says, I will say that this happened within the last two years. And here we go. He says, I was with a friend attempting to qualify for finals in one of the larger annual pinball tournaments in Pittsburgh. It was a card-style format. My wife decided to come down and join me in the city that evening for a night out. Shockingly, I had one amazing card that I knew would hold. I'm assuming that's like a tournament thing where you don't have to stress out. I don't know. He says, so we decided to just hang out at the bar and just enjoy the night with friends. So at this point, this guy's sitting down with his wife at the bar. No stress with the tournament. It goes on to say, pretty standard story, but this is where it gets kind of embarrassing. My wife proceeded to get me absolutely trashed. I'm getting older and I never really drink more than a beer or two. Not that night. She wanted to have a good time, and there was just no stopping her. She just kept ordering me drinks. So we'll see where this one goes. Are you ready? I think he's just blaming his wife. He says, fast forward to the next day. Yes, I made finals. But I've had the worst hangover I've had in a very long time. Maybe the worst in 20 years. Definitely the worst in 10 years. But I was going to power through, and I was going to play in the finals. And it turns out I had to play one of the best. and one of the most well-respected tournament pinball players in the world. Everyone who knows anything about pinball tournaments would know this dude. Okay, it might be a short day, dot, dot, dot. Well, things got even more interesting. I was just feeling miserable on the day of the tournament from the hotel, and then it happened. DEFCON 1. I'll make it short. I got such a cramp in my stomach, I ended up shitting my pants on the way to the tournament. Oh, my God. I thought he was going to throw up. I didn't know he was going to shit himself. Yeah. He says, I couldn't even make it to the restroom. Ugh, this is how I know my wife clearly loves me. She got me to a Kohl's, got me some new undies and pants, and I got all cleaned up in the pinball establishment's restroom. Don't worry. I put everything in the garbage bag and disposed of it properly. LOL. All was good now. Time to play. So you're thinking that's the end of it, right? Yeah. Here we go. He says, yes, embarrassing, but that's not the end of the story. I played this really awesome gentleman a few times, and I've never beat him, and I've always wanted to beat him at least one time. Well, today was the day. He had a really bad game. All I really had to do was backhand a ramp to get multiball, which would probably have given me the win. But instead, I ended up trapping the ball on my right flipper while clenching my butt cheeks really hard, trying not to cramp again. Unfortunately, I never made that backhand. DEFCON 1 occurred again. You know it. Not as bad as the first time, but I clearly had to get out of there. Afterwards, he asked me why I didn't just backhand the shot, and at that point I just needed to leave. So that's my embarrassing pinball secret is I shit my pants playing one of the best players in the world, LOL, and for some reason my wife still made me stop at the Hofbra for lunch. But that's another story for another day. I trust you guys to keep my name secret, although there's numerous people in the poor man group who clearly know what happened. If it's too long, you don't have to use it. I won't be offended. absolutely no we're we're using it we used it right there in my younger days we used to call those the beer shits because you oh yeah of course of course so bad of course and dude that you're not sure if that's a little little gassy or or if you're gonna get a little liquid at some point i'll have to tell you a shit your pants story that i've got that is just because i believe i think we've all shit ourselves not to that extent but i i do think that that most of us shit our pants. If you're in your 40s. I've got a story that probably happened 15, 20 years ago. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's not good. No. Here another one off the anonymous tip line here It says are you ready It says I been in the hobby for over five years now but I think everybody has at least on a few occasions been an idiot when working or buying on their first game Mine was a doozy, though. He says, I had purchased a high speed and was using my father-in-law's truck to move the game. He came along to help out. Getting the game into the truck bed was relatively easy. Getting it out was another story. The truck bed was so high up that we didn't know how to get it down with the leverage. So we got a furniture dolly involved, and after much deliberating, But after we were trying to get the game out, the back end slipped and the game fell out of the truck bed and slammed into the driveway. That's a terrible feeling. Greg, that's a terrible feeling. It says, thankfully, it didn't cut my fingers clean off, but it was devastating to spend a few thousand dollars for the first time on a game. Twenty seven hundred bucks in 2022, he notes, and then drop it out of the back of the truck. But he says after looking things over, the wood between the head and the body were splintered and fractured. They ended up using some wood glue, clamps, and acrylic black paint, and most people would never know, especially the guy that he probably sold that game to right away. It's like, I dropped that. Fix it and get it out of here. That's part of pinball, though, man. He says, thankfully, the fall didn't hurt anyone. Resilient. You make that shit work. Put it back together. That's right. That's right. That's right. He says, thankfully, the fall didn't hurt any other parts of the game, and it lived on location for many years, issue free, and to this day, I won't move games with a truck. Low-profile cars like Vans or the Honda Fit are the way to go. says thanks guys join the podcast a lot so he's got ptsd of fucking trucks and pins oh man man i when uh it's hard the first time you're moving a game i remember it was uh the first game i ever bought it was an earth shaker we had to pull it out of a basement and i thought i knew what i was doing because i had a buddy of mine joe at the time who was kind of giving me some tips on buying this game joe lives locally uh what's up joe and so i go back in the emails he's like yeah you're gonna fall down the head you're gonna tip it you're gonna wrap it tip it up take the legs off you know just how we typically would do it well for whatever reason i'm down there i'm excited i fold the head down and then we proceed to carry this earth shaker out of the basement me and two guys with the legs on with with all the weight on the head on the guys that are like carrying from the bottom going up the stairs and then me on the top just like pulling and i was struggling then we get this game out the door and then we get it to the to the van and we take the back legs off and kind of uh coffin styled it in there and i was like wait a second these these freaking legs come off why did we do all that and then it occurred to me that i i did not know what i was doing back in the day but that was the first and last time i ever moved the game like that with the legs dude is that not crazy like looking back because like i remember my very first game like i don't know why it just never it never occurred to me uh that i needed a dolly or anything because i bought it from technically i guess like a retail resale shop um type thing and so like i called a buddy because i was keeping it a secret from the family i wanted to surprise them and me and him carried that son of a bitch and that didn't have the legs so yours was way worse but like looking back like my first two or three games i carried with somebody down the stairs and just the height difference like oh that's that's there's no way i could i wouldn't even remotely think about doing that again no no i you know my basement has two landings i just got proficient about getting a game in the house taking the legs off and then just literally just sliding it down the stairs get it to the first landing, rock it over, slide it down. I can move a game down the stairs by myself without a dolly. Oh, nice. I always do it with a dolly, but similar way. Like I just kind of sat down and let it just work its way down really easy. Getting it up, you know, stern, I can if I really put something into it. But like any other game, I can't get upstairs. I've got to have somebody give it a little push. I honestly like that about stern games is that, I mean, all pinball is heavy, and usually you work out best with two people, especially if you're going up and down stairs. but at least Stern gives me a fighting chance of getting something set up down a flight of stairs or even up a flight of stairs by myself. But again, you need two people. That's why the neighbors started not hanging out with me that much, because I was going through games so often they didn't want to go up and down the stairs anymore. So I ended up just making that garage, that game room, and I never looked back since. Never had a game come in and out of this basement ever again after that, so I was pretty happy. This one is another one from the Anonymous Hotline. And he says, I'll give you the short story. Thank you. He says, a few months after I discovered pinball, I went to replay FX with my son. And we had researched all these games we wanted to play. I knew they were having a pinball tournament. But I didn't realize the importance of this tournament. And I had no clue what a pinball even was. He goes on to say, anyway, all the games I wanted to play were in the tournament. And I noticed that they were taking breaks. So I started to go out on the tournament floor during the break and play all the games. A very nice gentleman asked me to leave. He even pointed out that there were signs telling me I wasn't allowed to play the games. I didn't even see those signs. But I just couldn't help myself. I kept doing it. Eventually, he told me the next time would be my last. He was very polite in his messaging. Anyway, I really needed to play this Dark Knight game, and my son really wanted to play Medieval Madness. So I told my son I would create a diversion. I said to give it three to five minutes and then go play Medieval Madness. This guy just doesn't stop, Greg. He says, I'll distract the bouncers. I headed straight towards Batman and sure enough they were watching me and they came for me on the way out I kept asking questions about machines and pointing at things and they were really nice folks so they were explaining the machines to me as they were tossing me out anyways I texted my son that I would see him on the outside I believe he got in three games of medieval madness and honestly I actually feel bad about it I just thought it was an everyday pinball tournament and I couldn't understand why they wouldn't let me play the machines on a side note when i was playing the new jurassic park game keith ellen was standing there and i forgot exactly what i said but essentially i asked him for how long he's been working for coin taker so let me ask you this part of the story makes me laugh part of the story is puzzled like uh dude if there's signs they'll play the games just don't play the games and if you didn't see him why do you keep going back to the well getting everybody upset at the tournament and then creating that diversion for your uh sunday i mean i don't know just medieval madness is pretty common game to go play somewhere else you probably could have just driven five miles somewhere and play that game so we're where i appreciate the tenacity and creating diversions and uh and and kind of the uh rebel attitude it's like was it all worth it in the end is this guy even allowed back into pinberg i don't know but i appreciate i appreciate that he shared the story um all right so we'll close this segment out with this last one which i think is uh is pretty awesome and we won't tell you who this person is until the end and and see if you can guess it during the uh The part of the pinball confession. Are you ready, Greg? All right. So this email came in. It says, my pinball confession for the podcast, dot, dot, dot. When I was a kid, I ended up finding a file on my dad's desktop labeled, quote, unquote, the Roger Report. Now, this file turned out to be all the Williams-Bally Midway pinball and video projects that were either in development or potential licenses that my dad was pitching to the various design teams as available, along with notes on who was interested in the project, etc. Mortal Kombat pinball? Yes, please! It, of course, never happened, but it was on the report at one time. Talk about the ultimate rumor has it segment. Getting to be in the know without my dad ever knowing that I found that file was pretty awesome. Signed, Josh Sharpe. That's awesome. That is so cool. And Josh is, you know, he runs the IFPA, but he's also the CFO right now at Roth Thrill. So I appreciate Josh. Can you imagine that? Well, for everybody out there listening that doesn't know, shame on you if you don't. uh you know his dad is roger sharp the proclaimed father of pinball and roger is kind of a master at securing you know different ips and licenses and stuff um you know it's kind of his forte and so he he's very good at what he does so it's kind of awesome to hear that just for those that aren't familiar yeah he's the uh go look it up the shot that saved pinball back in the uh back in the day legitimately was able to recognize that pinball machines weren't necessarily, they weren't gambling devices. They actually were a game of skill. That's a hell of a movie too, man. That was actually really good. Chelsea loved it too. And like I said, she hates pinball because it's my life, but she did love that movie, man. It was very well done. And of all the people that I've had the pleasure of meeting throughout my years of just being involved in the hobby, Roger's one of the most genuine, nice people to talk to, and he tells amazing stories, very thorough. I mean, he tells long stories, but they're interesting stories. I know buddies of mine that tell long stories. They're not as interesting, but I try to be courteous. I know a lot of people I have to play some games with him at different shows and stuff. And it's always fun, especially like a homebrew or a new game, because Roger will walk you through everything. He talks a lot when he's playing with it. That's a very unique shot. Yeah, cool. Why does that do that, you think? Look at that, just coming back at you like that. I'm like, it's so awesome because, you know, his brain still, after being in pinball this many years, it's still just like breaking everything down that he does and that layout and everything. I don't know, dude. It's just, I think it's magical. Like, I always just like listening to his thoughts. Well, and the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree with that whole Sharp family bloodline, too, because like I said, I mean, Josh, who just sent that email, CFO at Raw Thrills, also runs the IFPA. You've got Zach Sharp, who's the senior marketing director over at Stern Pinball. These guys are just embedded in the industry, heavy, hardcore. Oh, yeah. And then Roger's just kind of involved a little bit of everything in pinball, it seems. And, you know, he's helped companies get their foot in the door, and he's helped the solidified companies land some major licenses and deals. So it's good. Exactly. You know, it's a good family. I'm a fan, Greg, of the Sharks. Awesome family. Absolutely. Agreed. So, Greg, it now comes to our pinball confessions. And I've got one or two that I could share if you're up for it. I don't know if you've got a couple that you could share. We don't have to get too deep, but I thought it'd be fun to kind of hear what you have to say. Oh, yeah. Mine are kind of lame. Like, I mean, I've had, you know, some of mine are common things. Like, you know, I have dropped a play field in the cabinet. I think a lot of people have. Like, I always feel bad for. That's scary, man. Oh, it is, dude. I always feel bad when somebody does that because I think that they kick themselves so hard about it and stuff because they're so terrified and everything. And I'm like, man, it happens. I feel like it's going to happen at least once to you if you're in the hobby and you get a lot of games. I think the same thing probably goes for breaking a sheet of glass, like knock on wood. I've never broke a sheet of glass, but, you know. Oh, man, I give you two months now, you're breaking a sheet of glass. I know. I knew better than to say it at all. But, like, so when I very first got my game, again, this is lame, but, I mean, it was something stupid that happened. Like, I had some bulbs burn out. Like, this guy put in the real cheap. I mean, they're almost like a blue. They're a natural white, but they're those real cheap Chinese bulbs. And that's what he had in there. And a couple bulbs went out. I had no idea how those bulbs came out. So I don't know why, but I thought they were like a flashlight bulb. Remember old school flashlight bulbs? They screwed in. They were like a normal bulb, but they were tiny just like that. So I tried unscrewing the bulb and ripped the cap off, ripped the whole LED top off. And so then I got a socket down in there. I got to unplug the game, dig that out. And I, and I still, I was prying on it and pulling it with a pair of needle nose to get it out. And then I learned like, I think it was just cause I've pressed down at turn and it popped right up with the spring. I was like, Oh shit. Oh man. Yeah. That's like, Hey, you learned that though. Yeah. And you're, you're talking about it to this day. So it made an impression on you. I like it. Oh, it did. I just felt so stupid. And then this, like one more, this one, this one was kind of, This one got to me a little bit because I did feel ridiculous on this. So, you know, very first location that I'd had, you know, I guess two years ago now, a year ago, me and a buddy were moving my Deadpool in, and there was a whole group of people. I mean, we got there as soon as the restaurant opened, and there was like a whole big table, I mean, probably a table of 10 that sat down right in our doorway because we came through like a side front doorway type thing. It was the only way to be able to get pins in. and so we were moving it in tried to get there early these people were in the way they were talking to us like oh look how cool that is you know people are and like what do you do with this you know a question and they're just all talkative and amped up and everything and you know i was kind of like fuck just shut up and leave me alone like we're trying to get shit done you're in the way like i can't ask you to move so we're having to clear other tables and shit's all stop your enthusiasm get out of my way yeah yeah i'm like it's hot as balls out man like i'm just dripping sweat and so i i didn't pay attention because like especially if i'm just moving a game location like i don't use plastic wrap on it i'll just secure it with with a a strap and then i'll strap it to my dolly well i didn't pay attention because like they were talking to me and shit was going i just wanted they made me nervous because i didn't want them complaining or anything and i'd already undone the strap to my dolly and i grabbed the strap and released it and it was to the head and the head yep just boom off of a chair luckily the chair kind of cushioned it but dude it was so embarrassed and then that whole fucking table wanted to erupt in laughter and i was like eat my ass i'm done i'm out of here that sucks that sucks man so stupid like lucky you know nothing you know back glass nothing you know the the translate like nothing to glass and it didn't break nothing but dude i felt so stupid and i was just so ready to get out of there it was awful yeah it's crazy you said that because literally one of my pinball confessions is a similar story with the head it was a brand new box game that i got right before a holiday and we were hosting right i think it was christmas or christmas eve and the game comes like a day or two before christmas eve no it came like the day before like christmas eve and i'm all excited i get my son on my hey man uh let's unbox this game together we're going to set it up in the game room to be ready to play for everybody when they come over for Christmas. He's like, all right, that's cool. He'd never unboxed a game before. I get to the point where, you know, the box is off. This is a Stern game, by the way. Get the box off. All that's left is the game's off the dolly, or the game's off the pallet, and it's in the upright position with the banding strap that holds the head in place. Well, I'm just like, oh, I've got to cut this strap because I'm going to have to get ready to get the head. I don't even know what I was thinking, man. Cut that strap. Same thing. The head, I just see it in slow motion. It's like, it's just slowly making its way down Matrix style in my mind. But in fast, full gravity free fall, slams, hits the garage floor, because this is where I was setting the game up. The back glass just shatters all inside of the back of the head. And my son's just looking at me, and he's like, is that how you're supposed to open the game? Is that how you're supposed to open the game? I was just so excited. And it sucked, man. So, you know, first you clean up all the glass. The trans light was all scratched up from the glass. But you're able to, at least in that position with the head on the ground laying flat in the body in the upright position, glass didn't get into the game because you get glass in the game. You're not getting glass out of it. Oh, no. I vacuumed the heck out of that. Had to ask my buddy, Dwight, who I needed to call to get a new trans light and glass ordered. So he hooked me up over there at Stern and they got me a new one. But, yeah, it was terrifying. It was embarrassing. But guess what? Gameplay perfect. There were no issues. No damage to the back. So I don't recommend doing that, but that happened. My other pinball confession was that on every single topside teardown that I've ever done to shop out a game, I've always had at least a couple pieces of hardware left over. It's just every single time. And I'm thinking to myself, you know what? They could have saved money on the bill of materials. They didn't even need this hex post. They didn't even need this washer. They didn't even need this screwdriver. I always have a little bag of stuff, no idea where it was supposed to go. that was one of my confessions and then finally this is probably in my mind do you have another one no no no this one is I hope is not disappointing to people because everybody should know how much I love pinball And you know we always say this right? We're enthusiasts and hobbyists before we're anything else. You know, we work for a distributor with Zach and Nicole at Flip N Out Pinball. Grateful to do it because it's awesome. again love pinball when i have a golden tea in the house i play substantially more golden tea than i play any pinball machine that's ever in the house at all and it's it's not because it's more fun no i can see it's because it offers a different type of fun yes and and it's it's engaging with the seasons and the tournaments and and part of me saying this is is a segue because with fall coming up right now, there are a couple things that I want to have that we want to introduce to people, and that is things that you can add to your game room, maybe outside of pinball, to create that ultimate tailgate experience. With NFL football season, one of the things I like about Golden Tee and Big Buck Hunter is another one of these games that I enjoy a lot because you can pick up and play for a couple minutes and put it back down. Now, you can do that in pinball to a certain extent, but occasionally you get that long game where you're 20, 30, 40 minutes in, and it's kind of hard to fit in. But, you know, I like to entertain, so I've got a lot of people that come over for the Bears games. And you're leading up into the kickoff. We've got the tailgate going. We've got the Blackstone outside. You know, we're cooking food. We've got people that are playing on the Buck Hunter. We've got people playing, you know, closest to the pin or quick nine holes at Golden Tee. Those games move fast. Dude, you can fit those games in commercial breaks at halftime. Well, that's what I was going to say. like that that's a good thing too because it's it's not as loud and as noisy as pinball too so you could still you could do that or you could even have somebody step up while they're watching the game depending on where you know games on you know you just got the roll of the track ball you know fit a hole 100 or like you said it can set their idle for a while you know it's not like the pinball machine going off it's just setting their idle so you can wait a minute if it's up to somebody's turn um because you know some some me and buddies will go out and play sometimes on golden tea you know we'll have a couple drinks and we're bullshit and then it's somebody else's turn and it might take them five minutes to get up there you know i'm saying like we just make an evening of it so the same thing at home you you don't feel obligated to immediately be up there playing no no and it's nice because anybody can pick up anybody can roll the track ball you can get as deep into into golden tea as you want with different shot types and clubs and all that kind of stuff but there's a handicap system it keeps it close and so i guess i guess what i'm trying to say is you know as much as i love pinball there are other amazing things that you can add to your game room and as you know we expand our product catalog of flipping out pinball these are two items that we're going to be featuring going into the fall. If you've ever been curious about a golden tee or ever been curious about a big buck hunter, you know, hit us up. You can email me, Ken at flipping out pinball.com. Love to talk to you off about it and, and join it because part of the whole tailgate experience that we want to promote going into the fall is just going to be everybody tailgating together on these, you know, college football Saturdays, NFL football Sundays, Monday night football, Thursday night football, be part of the community, be part of the fun. and I think we're going to end up having some different ways in which you can earn prizes and whatnot by jumping on board. So if you don't have one, let us know. And if you do have one, email me anyways because I would like to get a list of people, and I suppose I could go back to our customer list and I could pull this. But if you're listening to the podcast and this is something that intrigues you, maybe getting into some tournament stuff just for fun amongst all the Flip N Out Pinball family, email me. Again, kindofflippinoutpinball.com, and we'll get you going. We'll get you on the list. You're not wrong at all. Like I still love, you know, I got that dress at park shooter. Um, you know, I got another, you know, arcade. Like I know that some people have gotten away from arcades, but I do think that it's, it's great to have that in the mix and change stuff up. Cause I do, I'll sit down and I have a couple of drinks or something and just shoot the hell out of some dinosaurs. And it's just a nice change up. Like I said, it's not a big commitment. You're just, you know, you're playing, shooting it and it's just a good staple. It's a good, cause some people, I feel they get a little intimidated by a pinball sometimes just because they're not used to it. But it's like you said, everybody can roll a trackball. Anybody can fire a light gun. So it's like two freaking amazing games to add to the lineup for sure. And even on like Big Buck Hunter, for instance, it's not just bucks. It's not animals. They have little mini games that you can play. They have where you can play against zombies. Oh, hell yeah. There's several. They've got T2s on there, Terminators. So, I mean, there's several different games you can play with the light gun. And it's just fun. That's what I love. That's the selling point to me, dude, is that there's a lot more games on there than just Big Buck Hunter now. So, like, you're getting, you know, you're getting, like you said, Terminator. I guess maybe it's, is it Salvation? I can't remember which one's on there. But it's really good. Yeah, it's Terminator Salvation. Yeah, and I think they added The Walking Dead. Did they add The Walking Dead one on there, too? Yes, it is. So, see, that's freaking awesome, dude. You got Duck Dynasty is on there. It's got a ton of games. So if you're not in the mood to shoot in Bucks, you can go into any number of other games that are on there, too. And frankly, I like to entertain a lot. So I've been in a position where I will sometimes buy things that don't really call to me, but I think they'll call to my friends or family that are coming over because I want them to come over and have a good time. I want them to come back. And pinball is not up everybody's alley that comes over. And it's because they don't have enough time on it and they don't appreciate it as much as maybe we do. we understand what it offers over time and that there's more to it than just trying to not drain. You're trying to unlock modes and scoring and things like that but people will gravitate they want to roll the trackball, they want to shoot the gun they're cool items to have and we'll leave it at that The time is nearing if you're looking for your next pinball machine the time is nearing for Stern's next release so that should be coming up soon don't forget to get on that list You know, we are taking that list With it being soon For your next Stern title We do not know what that is We hear rumors like all of you guys But, you know, unfortunately We do not know exactly what that is But don't be afraid to get on that list Same thing with Spooky We're taking that interested list For Spooky as well For their next game So on either one of those If you're interested You know, contact Ken or I Again, you know what Ken giving his email I am Greg Just G-R-E-G at flipinoutpinball.com for any of those lists. We should be getting Jaws 50th in September. Sometime in September, those will be on the line coming to us. There are a few spots for those left, but a few. Those things went quick, did they not, Ken? Yeah, I mean, it's every single day almost I got people asking about Jaws 50th, and I know that we've sold a ton of them. If you've ever been on the fence about getting a Jaws, this new edition should just kind of put you over. it's it's just an attractive looking game there's a lot of extra bling on it and if you're a jaws fan in any capacity like this is that this is the way to go in my opinion and when they're gone they're gone like i can't say i literally swear on everything talked to a guy just uh two days ago kicking himself in the ass about not getting a godzilla 70th and he was like those aren't going to be re-ran again like no man it's just the the anniversary year that they are so it's not going to be re-ran again he can't find one you know he definitely wanted one new um that sort of thing so So like Ken said, you know, just, you know, not creating any kind of FOMO or anything, but just once they're gone, these are gone sort of thing. So jump on those for sure. Yeah, I know last week actually sold our last Dungeons & Dragons premium. But the good news is I think we're getting more from Stern this week or next, right? They should be coming back into stock. So that's good if you're looking for Dungeons & Dragons. They are producing more of the Uncanny X-Men pros. You know, for the lack of a better term, not to take somebody else's segment, But that game's trending up with the revisitation of the code. We've got a whole other excitement, a whole other wave of interest that's been in X-Men, and those games have been moving. So if you're looking to get those, X-Men Pro, this is on the line at Stern and heading our way. Dune. Dune Pinball from Barrels of Fun is also popularity-wise, it's rising. You know what? And I'm kind of glad that this game's getting more of the praise and acknowledgement that it is now, because we talked about it in previous podcasts. It launched in a really tough window. and a lot of the the genius and ingenuity that's in the game a lot of the things that what people are asking for to be in modern pitball that are in that game and as far as like mechs and toys we're a little bit overshadowed and overlooked so i would encourage you you know give that game another listen or give that game another look and if you count one on location go ahead and play it but dude you're not wrong uh theme integration of that game uh you know what they did just incorporating movie clips and everything else is oh man dude it's next level so good so good i think some of the hesitancy has just been for people that are not really familiar with dune uh and the storyline go back and check it out i mean you've got movies that came out as recently as uh you know a couple years ago with dune so it's it's a new theme that was based on an original movie from 1984 uh nostalgia sells big for those of you that don't know enough about dune i get it you're going to approach that game as almost like an original theme in in a way and i totally understand that and and for me full disclosure that's that's kind of how it was with harry potter for me i was aware of harry potter but i didn't know anything about the storyline i didn't know anything about uh the books or the movies other than there were wizards and uh you know when i started playing the game it was an original theme to me and and i had a fun time the storyline uh was created itself and i know that there's good theme integration and good storytelling within the dune pinball machine so you know if you haven't like i said if you haven't checked it out check it out and if you're looking to get one we've got them coming in here in the next week or two i think by month's end we'll have another replenishment of these dune games definitely If you want to change it up with a classic at all, well, sort of a classic with a spin as well. There are some pretty big discounts on the Funhaus remake classics and LEs. Contact Ken or I to get some more information on that. And again, if new in-box pinballs are not your thing, we have always got a revolving door of used inventory. Make sure to get on our Facebook, like our page, follow all of that used inventory on there. there are tons of games on there a lot of them go fast uh i can't tell you and the can will back me up on this about how many people come in and it's like hey i saw that game on there sorry it's pending so you know act fast get on there yeah you know we do take an interested list on uh our used games we try to keep up on that and everything is well for anything that we get in but you know again best thing keep it keep an eye on that facebook book like on there like on there yeah Yeah, that interest list is great. I mean, and it's growing, too. I had somebody that reached out and gave me like 12 games to put them on the interest list. I was like, you know what? You can limit it to like three, but otherwise I would just put you down for an interest list for every single game that was ever created, and then we'll ping you before we list it. So it's like if you've got somebody on that interest list, and again, you can email us at Ken or Greg at FlippinOutPinball.com. Let us know what game you're looking for, and then again, when it comes in before we post, we'll give you a little window. Hey, this game is here. If you're interested, this is what we've got. And you've got kind of a first crack at it, so to speak, which is kind of cool. And I know that we're working on – I know Zach's working on a way to try to get that used inventory a little bit more prominently featured outside of the Facebook page. But it's that pinned post on the top. And, you know what, drop us an email. I'll send you a link to it. And I'll even copy and paste it if you don't have Facebook, and I'll let you know what we have in stock. Make it easy for the people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And we've always, guys, I mean, we are always, you know, not only just selling games, you know, answering your questions, tech issues, any of that stuff. Like, we're always going above and beyond. We've got a lot of moving parts over here at Flip N Out Pinball. You know, we're always continuing to improve the way that you enjoy the hobby and add to your gaming collection. And, you know, again, a lot of that work is behind the scenes. And, you know, hopefully here, you know, we're working diligently every day. We have, I'm embarrassed to say how long our weekly meetings are between us all. The weekly meeting is one of the highlights of my week. Oh, it is me too. I love the weekly meeting. It's so good. But, you know, we've been putting a lot of stuff into flipping out behind the scenes. And so hopefully you're going to kind of start to see some of that stuff come out, you know, later this year and throughout 2026. You know, as we continue to kind of start to build on some of these projects and things that we're working on. We promote heavily with content creation and where that definitely certainly has been beneficial to the brand and to the business over the long haul. It's beneficial to anybody that's really an enthusiast outside of just flipping out pinball customers. And, you know, obviously, we would love for you to come in and purchase your next game from us. But just knowing that we're getting the word out there and getting more and more people excited. Again, I've been, I guess not stunned, but pleasantly surprised about how many people will reach out to me because of something that they saw with Flip N Out Pinball or was straight down the middle. And that content goes such a long way. So, again, kudos. I keep saying it. Kudos to yourself and for Zach for kind of establishing that early on before being a distributor was even in anybody's mind. But now it's nice that you're not letting off the gas and we're expanding. The product line is getting bigger. The content is going to expand. and that's exciting for us too because again as enthusiasts and as hobbyists um it's fun to kind of share our opinions and their opinions and and kind of share to the world what what's new and what's exciting and in the world of gaming and really like my focus going into the end of the year is just how to build out that ultimate game room and and it's going to be beyond pinball pinball is a big part of it agreed but again building out that ultimate game room is is kind of where it's at i completely agree couldn't have said better myself ken all right and then finally from the podcast side of things, listenership is awesome, guys. Really, really appreciate it. Surprisingly, we get a ton of views, or I shouldn't say a ton, but a lot more views on YouTube than I ever had anticipated with people just kind of clicking on an audio file and just listening to it in the background, so it's great. You can find the podcast and any of your podcasters, if you're listening to it here now, subscribe to the podcast. That subscription is free, and you just get notified of new episodes that are coming out. Follow us. Listen, a personal personal thing because just how this thing works the more followers that we have on facebook uh the more engagement that we're going to get because the more exposure we get with our posts so if you've frequented the podcast page on facebook at any time or even instagram would you mind just hitting the like button and again it doesn't like make a difference to us as far as like we get paid by the click or by the likes but it just helps spread the content and spread the word and that's just basic social media so if you can do that like that'd be really really uh we'd be really appreciative of that. If you're looking to support the show and take part in the show in a little bit of a different way, you can go over to Patreon. It's P-A-T-R-E-O-N.com slash Flippin' Up Pinball Podcast, or go to Patreon.com and type in Flippin' Up Pinball Podcast. We actually have different sub layers there, and there's a free sub, but there's a couple levels of subs that you could throw a couple bucks to the podcast each month, and it unlocks the different features that you don't get from the basic kind of public domain. But it's important to know that we're never kind of holding content back from you on on the uh the public side of things this is just kind of some extra stuff and some extra ways that we can interact outside of the uh the normal pages but it's all fun and games greg until somebody doesn't join patreon so we need you over at uh patreon if you get a chance don't lie to him ken it's where all the fun is it's where all the good stuff you're right we keep it all but in my eyes here greg i i think that uh this this episode six is a wrap i don't you got anything else you want to add no i don't think so I can leave you with some parting words of wisdom. Oh, you got it prepared this time for the prep closing? So I'll lead it in and we'll see how you go because I never know where it's going to go. For Greg Bone, I am Ken Cromwell. And I want to leave all of you out there, every listener near and far, with some parting words of wisdom. Please, please do not be like Anthony and keep your plunger away from the plunger. I'm Greg Bone with words of wisdom. And don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long, everybody.

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