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Episode 46 – Bunghole Crane

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·held·Jun 8, 2017
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TL;DR

IFPA World Raymond Davidson Davidson discusses his tournament victory and pinball career on Slam Tilt Podcast.

Summary

Raymond Davidson, newly crowned IFPA World Champion (ranked #14 overall, now #3 after earning 126 points), joins the Slam Tilt Podcast to discuss his championship run at a major tournament. Davidson recounts his competitive pinball journey from casual childhood play to elite tournament success, details his eight-machine collection, and provides extensive play-by-play commentary on his finals matches against Kaylee, including victories on Tron, Jackbot, and World Cup. The hosts explore how Seattle's thriving pinball scene and league structure enabled his development as a top-tier competitive player.

Key Claims

  • Raymond Davidson won the IFPA World Championship this past weekend

    high confidence · Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale introducing Raymond as IFPA 14 World Champion at the start of the episode

  • Davidson earned 126 WPPR points from the championship win, which elevated his ranking to #3 in the world

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale: 'The points came out today for that. I think they actually went up, like, the next day. Oh, really? Pretty fast. 126 points he earned, Ron. His ranking is now third in the world.'

  • Davidson currently owns eight machines and is receiving a ninth (Ghostbusters (Pro)) as part of his championship prize

    high confidence · Davidson states: 'Well, I currently have eight, soon to be nine' and later confirms he chose Ghostbusters over WWE LE and Game of Thrones

  • Davidson's collection includes Walking Dead, Tron, Metallica, Mustang, Whodunit, Black Rose, Volley, and Vulcan

    high confidence · Davidson lists all machines by name during collection discussion section

  • Davidson purchased the same Black Rose machine he played at a Red Robin restaurant growing up after his father contacted the operator

    high confidence · Davidson: 'we actually bought a black rose from one of the online sites... the playfield glass is completely shattered... we ship it back... my dad ended up calling up the operator at the restaurant... we just bought that exact one from him'

  • The Seattle Pinball League began in 2009 and enabled all-ages play that was critical to Davidson's development

    high confidence · Davidson: 'The Seattle Pinball League in 2009. That was kind of the beginning of the crazy renaissance in Seattle where I was able to go to the Seattle Pinball League because it was all ages'

  • Davidson defeated Nicholas Lindahl (Sweden) 4-1, then Daniele (Italy, current #4 ranked, two-time IFPA champion) in the next round

    high confidence · Ron: 'First, he defeated Nicholas Lindahl from Sweden. He went 4-1 against them. Then you played Daniele... ranked fourth in the world right now. He actually won the last two IFPAs. And he took him out.'

Notable Quotes

  • “I just remember going from this is impossible, like I have no chance, like, oh, well, at least I got top 16, to, oh, I mean, I guess I can beat him sometimes, to, oh, my God, I'm only one game away from getting through here.”

    Raymond Davidson @ mid-episode during Daniele match recap — Shows Davidson's psychological journey during the tournament, shifting from doubt to confidence as he advanced

  • “It was my tried and true all through the tournament. I put up a billion on it every game until that game. I just, I don't know. I blew it.”

    Raymond Davidson @ during Indy 500 finals discussion — Reveals Davidson's frustration at his one significant underperformance on his signature game during the championship finals

  • “That was the only game where we both did the thing, and he just did it better than me, and it was pretty exciting.”

    Raymond Davidson @ discussing Whitewater game — Acknowledges Kaylee's superior skill on Whitewater multiball execution despite Davidson's strong overall play

  • “Ball one, we both basically got a one flip and drained. and so it was looking pretty exciting. But then ball two... Yeah, he did like a tip-in to final draw, which was super exciting.”

    Raymond Davidson @ World Cup final discussion — Describes the opening of the championship-deciding match, highlighting the dramatic tip-in shot by Kaylee

  • “He hit the game-winning triple jackpot and threw up his arm, like, with a fist and did, like, a, fuck yeah, like, it was crazy. And that is one of the most nerve-wracking shots when you're trying to lock.”

    Raymond Davidson @ Whitewater match recap — Captures the emotional intensity of the critical lock shot attempt and Kaylee's rare display of emotion after success

  • “Yeah, so I just felt really hot on it. So I picked it, and it worked out. I got, like, four bills or whatever.”

    Raymond Davidson @ Jackbot finals game discussion — Davidson demonstrates confidence in his game selection and execution of the challenging Jackbot validation tricks

  • “The Seattle Pinball League in 2009. That was kind of the beginning of the crazy renaissance in Seattle where I was able to go to the Seattle Pinball League because it was all ages.”

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Signals

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    competitive_signal: Raymond Davidson won the IFPA World Championship this past weekend, defeating elite international competitors including two-time IFPA champion Daniele (4-0) and top-ranked Kaylee in the finals after a dramatic comeback from 3-1 deficit

    high · Ron and Bruce introduce Davidson as 'IFPA 14 World Champion'; match-by-match breakdowns of victories over Lindahl (4-1), Daniele (4-0), Jason (4-0), and Kaylee in best-of-7 finals

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Raymond Davidson's championship victory earned him 126 WPPR points, elevating his world ranking from unspecified to #3 overall within one day of points release

    high · Bruce: '126 points he earned, Ron. His ranking is now third in the world. Woo!'

  • ?

    community_signal: Seattle pinball scene demonstrates exceptional competitive depth and infrastructure, producing multiple top-ranked players and enabling youth development through all-ages league structure established in 2009

    high · Davidson credits Seattle Pinball League (founded 2009) for his development; names multiple strong local competitors (Kaylee, Kevin Burrell, Maka, Dave Stewart) who elevated his play through regular competition

  • ?

    community_signal: Established mentor-mentee dynamic between top players: Kaylee allowed younger-aged Raymond Davidson to practice at his house when Davidson was too young to play in bars, facilitating skill development

    medium · Davidson: 'he let me come over and play. So that was pretty cool'; later notes 'it was a little bolstered, a little exaggerated' for media narrative but confirms genuine mentorship occurred

  • ?

Transcript

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0:00
Say boys, interest in the printed page? Uh, you got anything with naked chicks? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With big hooters. Uh, no. We do mostly educational and technical manuals. Who's gonna buy that? Crap. Yeah, really.
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale.
0:41
World Championship time, boys and girls. Yeah, we'll get to that. And welcome to episode 46. We're starting our new movie run here. The Producers.
0:54
Springtime for Hitler and Germany. I've never seen it. Oh, it's a freaking great old movie. But you've got two versions, unfortunately. You have the one version with Gene Wilder and the second version with Matthew Broderick and Nathan Lane. Both have good points.
1:13
Which do you prefer? The classic. You prefer the classic? Okay. This is a watershed day for the podcast. Cheers. We have a world champion here. Yes, we do. So we both were watching and following him and his championship run this past weekend. I'd like to introduce Raymond Davidson, IFPA 14 World Champion.
1:38
Welcome to the podcast. Hey, guys. Now, he's followed the podcast, which has actually been really cool, because I've actually called him out one time at one of the end of the episodes saying, you know, good night to Raymond. And so he's posted on our website and posted e-mails and that kind of stuff. A few e-mails to the Slam Mel Ball Bag, whatever. Yeah.

  • In the finals against Kaylee, Davidson came back from a 3-1 deficit to tie the match at 3-3, triggering a best-of-three sudden-death format

    high confidence · Davidson and hosts detail the match progression, with Bruce explaining: 'So they do this thing where if it's tie three, three, it becomes a two out of three series. Yes. So it's like a new match.'

  • Davidson defeated Kaylee in the final on World Cup, with a decisive multiball run that reached Germany and scored approximately $1.2 billion

    high confidence · Davidson: 'I played my multiball, and, yeah, it went all the way to Germany and ended with like $1.2 billion or something'

  • Jackbot has a well-known playfield validation exploit involving short-plunging and draining to advance jackpots before the ball is in play

    medium confidence · Davidson explains: 'you basically get jackpots before the ball is even in play and then you drain and you get more jackpots' and later: 'you can short plunge, hit one of the jackpots... and that will only count as one switch, and then you can just let it drain... you'll get a jackpot, but you get the ball back'

    • Raymond Davidson @ Seattle scene discussion — Identifies the critical infrastructure that enabled his development as a young, competitive pinball player

  • “I paid $350 for a Kiss pinball machine. And two days later, I'm on the news, and I'm watching, and, oh, 20 people arrested in house, crack house bust.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ early in episode during personal story exchange — Humorous aside revealing Bruce's own pinball acquisition history and the colorful nature of pinball venue acquisition

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    collector_signal: World champion maintains balanced collection of 8 machines across eras (EMs: Pioneer/Spirit of 76, Volley, Vulcan; Bally Williams: Whodunit, Black Rose; modern Stern: Walking Dead, Tron, Metallica, Mustang), with sentimental attachment to childhood play machines

    high · Davidson lists full collection and details acquiring the exact Black Rose machine he played at Red Robin as a child through operator contact facilitated by his father

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Raymond Davidson demonstrates exceptional mastery of Tron, Indy 500, Jackbot, and World Cup, with signature strategies including Indy 500 combo maximization (30 million points), Jackbot validation exploits, and World Cup multiball rhythm play reaching Germany

    high · Tournament play-by-play shows Davidson putting up 35-90 million on Tron, consistent billion-point scores on Indy 500, 4 billion on Jackbot, and $1.2 billion multiball run on World Cup in finals

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Top competitive players are actively exploiting Jackbot's well-known playfield validation glitch involving short-plunging and strategic drains to advance jackpots before balls enter play, technique taught and mastered by players like Kaylee

    high · Davidson explains: 'you can short plunge, hit one of the jackpots, like the hit me target or the under the ramp, and that will only count as one switch, and then you can just let it drain... you'll get a jackpot, but you get the ball back and you'll be able to do it again'

  • ?

    product_concern: Third-party online retailers (game gallery, BMI Game) shipping pinball machines are experiencing significant playfield glass damage in transit, requiring customer returns and replacements

    medium · Davidson: 'we actually bought a black rose from one of the online sites... the playfield glass is completely shattered all over the machine and we just we ship it back because like we didn't we didn't want to deal with that'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Advanced competitive strategy on multiball-heavy games (Whitewater, World Cup) involves deliberately choosing to advance secondary multiballs early (even with poor results) to ensure sufficient jackpot opportunities by final ball, requiring deep understanding of game progression and risk assessment

    high · Kaylee on Whitewater deliberately lit second multiball on ball one despite poor results, 'because he was gonna need to get to another multiball'; this risky strategy enabled his comeback ball three victory with 400+ million

  • ?

    event_signal: IFPA championship tournament uses custom format where tied 3-3 match score triggers sudden-death best-of-three series as tiebreaker, resetting psychological momentum and allowing comebacks after deficit

    high · Bruce explains: 'So they do this thing where if it's tie three, three, it becomes a two out of three series. Yes. So it's like a new match. Like a new match.'

  • ?

    content_signal: Slam Tilt Podcast has established audience relationship with competitive players; Raymond Davidson followed the show and previously received personal on-air acknowledgments, indicating growing podcast credibility in pinball community

    medium · Ron: 'he's actually been really cool, because I've actually called him out one time at one of the end of the episodes saying, you know, good night to Raymond. And so he's posted on our website and posted e-mails'

    • 2:01
    You even told me I failed. That was nice of you. Yes, you did. So, Raymond, first, congratulations. That was incredible to watch. You went through a lot of people. Kaylee, especially, at the end was, you know, just incredible. But first, before we even get into that, tell us how you got into pinball and why you are in the pinball. Tell me about yourself. All right. Well, I first got into pinball sort of just from my dad because our grandparents have a machine called Pioneer. Gottlieb EM. It's a two-player version of Spirit of 76. And I just played it when I was, you know, like five or whatever. My dad would show me how to play. And so that's kind of how I first got into pinball. But then as I grew up, I would go to the restaurants and movie theaters and just play while I'm waiting for my food or whatever. And eventually figured out you could get free games. And so I wanted to get better at it because it was cheaper if you could keep winning. And then eventually I found a pinball tournament. my first pinball tournament was the Northwest Pinball Championships in 2008. And that was tied to the Northwest Pinball and Game Room Show. And they asked me if I wanted to do open or novice. I was just like, what the heck, I'll do open. I want these world ranking points that you speak of. And, yeah, I ended up qualifying my first year. And I got hooked immediately ever since. That is really cool. I think in 2011 or 2012, I went up to the Northwest show with my wife, and you took me out and won the rounds. Did I? Yes, you did.
    3:52
    So I got beat by a world champion. Woo-hoo! Nice. But it's a great show up there. It's a really good show. Yeah, well, the show, I know the official Northwest championships has split from the show, but back when it was both the same thing, that was definitely my jam. I came back in 2010, and I didn't qualify, and I was pretty devastated, because my first year, I qualified. But that just kind of made me want to get better, and I was ready for the next year, where I actually went all the way to battle with a tiebreaker against Keith Owen in 2011 for second place. That was pretty sweet. That actually fronted my first popper trip was the winnings from that. Right now, how many machines do you actually own yourself now?
    4:45
    Well, I currently have eight, soon to be nine. Yes. So you want a game. You want a game from that. Yeah. For the IFPA 14 championships, they give you some cash and a game, which is cool. So I actually got some cash right away. and then I'm getting a game shipped to me within a couple of weeks here. Did you get to choose the game, or was it like you're getting this game? Kind of like that. They gave me a choice between WWE, LE, which was tempting because, you know, LE, or Ghostbusters, and I didn't want to hassle with the LE to try to sell it to someone or anything, so I picked up the, I think I'm going with Ghostbusters. You made the right decision, brother. You'd have trouble selling me, I'll tell you that.
    5:38
    Because the, yeah, because there was one in Allentown for sale, and they just never sold it. So it was like their old, yeah, not the most popular game in the world. No, and I figure, my first choice was Game of Thrones. I asked if I could get Game of Thrones, because I need, I feel like I would really like that game if I had some more time on it, but I just don't know quite enough about all the scoring strategies and stuff. So, yeah, I wanted that, but they were like, oh, we stopped making those.
    6:09
    I like the first one. Congratulations. The points came out today for that. I think they actually went up, like, the next day. Oh, really? Pretty fast.
    6:19
    126 points he earned, Ron. His ranking is now third in the world. Woo! When I win a tournament, I get, like, three points or something like that. I'm doing a dance of joy.
    6:33
    But you've done great other shows, too. You know, Pinberg, you got second two years ago, you know. So it's not like you've never played well, but this was just holy crap. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.
    6:48
    So name the games that you own in your collection so we can see what a world champion plays. Well, I have some new sterns, such as Walking Dead. Great game. Tron. Great game. I like that game. Metallica. Good game.
    7:09
    The Mustang. That's right. Mustang. Great game. It's a great game. Most people won't classify it as such, but I think it's a great game. I think it is, too. So we're in the same boat. Cool. We just got one location, and I love it. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a lot more to it than people think. Like, it's got some depth to it, and it's just kind of fun to shoot around and, you know, get the wizard mode or the gear six thing. But, yeah, other than that, I have a whodunit from Bally Williams. I know you're a fan of the whodunit. We both are. I sold mine to him. To me, it was. for the other ballywilliams i have um black rose which was actually my first game i got was it's actually the same exact black rose that i played at the red robin um growing up my dad actually um we originally when i when he first started realizing that i was like good at pinball and getting into it he wanted to buy me a machine and he didn't know which one to get and i was like well dad how about black rose like we really liked it when we played it growing up and he's like oh okay so we actually we actually bought a black rose from one of the online sites like game gallery or bmi game something like outrageously expensive right and they shipped it to us and the the playfield glass is completely shattered all over the machine and and we just we ship it back because like we didn't we didn't want to deal with that and so then my dad ended up calling up the operator at the restaurant. I somehow got a hold of him, somehow. And, yeah, we just bought that exact one from him. And it just worked out. It was like half the price. And now I can say I own basically one of the games that I grew up with. That's really cool. Very nice. Yeah. So that's the story of Black Rose. How old were you when you forgot your first game? I think I was in sixth grade, so I don't know, 12, 13? I'm not sure. He might have you beat, Bruce. He might have you beat. I think he does, but I'm very proud of him. That's a good thing. He got this from a restaurant, though, not a crack house like you did. Yes, no crack house here, just a restaurant.
    9:24
    That sounds like an interesting story. Oh, go back into the old ones. You'll hear I actually got my first pinball machine in 13 and went down, paid $350 for a Kiss pinball machine. And two days later, I'm on the news, and I'm watching, and, oh, 20 people arrested in house, crack house bust. And it was the house I put the game at.
    9:48
    Oh, man. Yeah, so that was wild, and I was like, wow. And my mom's like, really? We were just there? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, wow. Wow. Good job, Bruce. Bring your mother to safe places. Grace to all the ones. Wow. Dang. So, moving on, the other games, the last ones are a couple of EMs. I have Volley, fun game, very simple game. Excellent game. Yeah. And Vulcan, Gottlieb's Vulcan, which is a very unique game. You don't see a lot. It's also called Fire Queen, I think. Pretty unique game.
    10:24
    You guys ever seen a Vulcan? I'm trying to think. I thought it was electronic, the one I saw, but maybe I'm losing it. I'd have to look it up. Yeah, it's like this EM, I think it's the same year as Volley around there, 1976. But it's like, Volley is super simple. Vulcan is like the most complicated EM I've ever seen. It has like five lanes, and each lane lights a star. And there's also these four drop targets that each one advances a whole value. And then there's also five drop targets, and each lane you get makes one of the drop targets give you two times as much bonus as the other drop targets. And then if you get all the drop targets, you get double bonus. And if you get all the other drop targets, you get the extra ball. It's just crazy. Like, for how much programming? I mean, well, not programming, but, you know, EM, YM. Yeah, it sounds like the Game of Thrones of EMs or something. Something that would confuse me. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Anyway, so that's my collection right now with a Ghostbusters on the way. That's just cool. Is it a premium, an LE, or is it just a – It's just pro. Yeah, you can only get the pro.
    11:34
    I didn't ask. Well, I think you'd have to pay more, and I don't want to pay for something I won. No, I agree. Yeah, I agree. I have a question. Can you go into a little the Seattle scene and how it helped you to get better? Yeah. There's so many good players from the Pacific Northwest. because they brought up in the commentary how when you were playing Kaylee, you were playing like your mentor. I think you said it in an interview after the match. You mentioned that also. Yeah, it's a little bolstered, a little exaggerated, but it made a great story, obviously. But I did go to Kaylee's house a few times to play, and we'd talk about pinball and stuff. And that's as much as a mentor sort of thing as it was. It wasn't, you know, anything completely young grasshopper, you know.
    12:32
    But, no, I mean, it was, he was there when I couldn't, because I couldn't play in the bars. I was too young. And he, yeah, he let me come over and play. So that was pretty cool. And how about the Seattle scene, which seems to be, like, the most, one of the busiest in-ball scenes. I mean, do you think that helped you get better, the fact that you were there? Yeah. That area. The Seattle pinball scene is, yeah, no slouch.
    13:00
    What happened first was the Seattle Pinball League in 2009. That was kind of the beginning of the crazy renaissance in Seattle where I was able to go to the Seattle Pinball League because it was all ages. And basically, you know, 40, 50 people gather each month at someone's house and they play a league match, but it's all handicapped. so you play with people near your skill level and I ascended through the ranks eventually getting to the top groups and I just kept playing people better than me until I ended up being the better it really helped playing all the time, playing really good people like Maka who is a local to Seattle Dave Stewart crazy good player uh Kevin Burrell is my arch nemesis, but we help keep each other playing good. You know, just all sorts of names and people that are really good, and Kaylee for the longest time until he moved.
    14:07
    Is it Burrell or Burrell? I've heard it said a couple different ways. Oh, I'm sure it's Burrell, but I always say Burrell. I'm kind of like one of those guys, once they pronounce something, they always just pronounce it that way. It probably drives people crazy. Welcome to my world.
    14:27
    Brusca says it really wrong, though. Yes. Really wrong. All right. Let's relive the victory. You're playing Kelly.
    14:39
    Why don't you just go over? Hold on, hold on. Let's go even back further. Let's go back further. Oh, we're going. Yes. Okay. He actually played a lot of great people. First, he defeated Nicholas Lindahl from Sweden. He went 4-1 against them.
    14:58
    Then you played Daniele. I can't ever say it. Daniele. Daniele from Italy. Daniele's ranked fourth in the world right now. He actually won the last two IFPAs. Yep. And he took him out. Then he went against Jason, as Ron said. 4-0. And then you went to the final round, and that's where we're going to go right now, the final round. Well, we can also say, Daniele, what do you remember most from that series? I just remember going from this is impossible, like I have no chance, like, oh, well, at least I got top 16, to, oh, I mean, I guess I can beat him sometimes, to, oh, my God, I'm only one game away from getting through here. I need to win this game, like, right now. Like, I need to extinguish him. That game was on? Tron. That game was wild. I, you know, I put up, like, 35 million, which isn't, you know, crazy good, but on that Tron, like, just a consistent score like that, you know, puts up the pressure. And Daniele came from behind on ball three. He started Cora, and he was up to, like, let's see, I think I had 37 million. He had like 32 million, and he was in Korra, had four balls, and then all of a sudden he had none. He like triple or quadruple drained out of Korra and fell like 3 million short of me. I was already thinking of my next game, and then it was just like, whoa. That's pretty wild. Yeah. So then you played, was it Jason? Jason, yes. What do you remember most from that series? What I remember most was my ridiculous ball one of Indy 500 followed by my two house balls of Indy 500.
    16:48
    Yeah, I actually saw that first ball. How many combos were there? Well, there was at least ten of them, or however many it takes to max it out at 30 million. Wow. Oh, yeah. That's one of my games I kind of discovered probably at Papa because they had one there. Yeah. It's when Dennis Nordman was still in his flow stage. The Whitewater demo man, Indy 500. Yeah, that game was sweet. Then we get to the finals. And you're behind 3-1. Well, first, he actually, the first game was one of our favorites, Ron. He played Paragon. Paragon! Yeah, Paragon was my, because you have to choose an old, middle, and new. Paragon was my old game that I kept choosing because my opponent kept choosing Captain Fantastic, which would have been the other game I would have chose. But basically, Paragon was the only game that I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, I guess I know Paragon. It's kind of fun, but, like, it's kind of a toss-up. Like, I'm just going to play this first, get out of the way, see what happens, right? That's kind of what I thought about that. And unfortunately, you lost that game even though you picked it. Yeah, I think I was on track to win until I made a mistake where I tried to dead pass out of the waterfall, and it just completely died on the flipper. It was just straight down the middle, yeah. It had some wild ball hop, too, off the right end lane. Yeah. I hate the waterfalls. I hate those waterfalls. I never get one with a consistent feed, and I never can judge it either half the time. I always use the wrong flipper and drain out of there. It pisses me off. So then the second game was Johnny Mnemonic, if I remember correctly?
    18:37
    Yes. That was... That was Kaylee's choice? Wait, was that the second game? Yeah. Yes. That was my one of the three ones. I pulled off my strategy pretty well. I didn't consummate it as well as it could have been. I even missed the lane change that was essentially like a billion-point lane change, which kind of sucked. but I executed the spinner millions plus multi-ball to ball one I think you were at 2.3 or 2.4 billion at that point it was a really impressive first ball alright good alright go go yeah it was definitely that felt good and Kaylee was just you could tell he was not comfortable with those flippers or something he never got settled on it but yeah. And you said the glare was really bad, even though we were seeing it at home. Yeah. It wasn't as bad as you saw on the camera. The camera made it worse because of the angle of where the camera was, but it was still, yeah, it wasn't great. And then the third game you picked was, I can't remember now. Indy 500. Oh yeah, that's right. It was my tried and true all through the tournament. I put up a billion on it every game until that game. I just, I don't know. I blew it. I missed, I was off by a little bit. There was a couple of orbit shots that rattled and threw off the timing for the lock shot, and I, like, shot it down the out lane, that sort of thing. So that was disappointing. I was really bummed, because that was my game that I had just, you know, crushed.
    20:09
    And then Game of Thrones was next. Pro. Yep. And, like I said, I know how to play it enough to get scores that are usually, you know, second place scores, like, in four-player groups. Like, I usually pick Tyrell, beat some modes, probably get Hand of the King. You know, Kaylee chose Martel. He killed a multi-ball, got tons of supers.
    20:33
    He did okay in his Hand of the King. No, he actually had a really bad Hand of the King. I mean, he only had $100 million on Hand of the King. That's what they were actually saying in the pod at Levy, and the guys were saying, oh, this is a chance for, you know. That's right, actually. Yeah, that's what, yeah. So that's why I was almost there. I just had to shoot the dragon shot on Greyjoy, and it could have happened. Yeah. I was watching. I was like, ah!
    21:00
    And then the next game was, what was the next one? Tron. That's right. And you're down 3-1. Yep. You go to Tron. Yep.
    21:11
    And? Tell everyone what happened. And I blow it up. Like 90 million or something. It was incredible. Yeah. Yeah, that was my turning point. That was where it was like, all right, I guess, you know, I can't let this 90 million game go to waste.
    21:30
    You actually looked like you had more confidence there. And I think Kaylee was a little, not like upset, but I think he was like, oh, I could have put you away. Right. And when you came back in such an impressive way, I think that put a little doubt, probably it would put a doubt in anybody's head. But then what was the next game? God, I had to... What's the next game after Tron that you played? That would be Captain Fantastic. Yes.
    21:56
    He put up a pretty meh score, like just the average Joe, I think 90-something thousand, or maybe just over 100,000. Like an okay score, but nothing crazy. So I had to basically just do that, and I was like killing it on ball three. Like I almost started like slowing down. I was already thinking of the next game. I was in the gravy train zone. And then ball four, just straight out the out lane, when I was still down by like 6,000, I was plunging ball five like, oh, crap, not like this.
    22:30
    But you came back, and you took them. It was now 3-3. Which you may have to explain this to our listeners, because they do this bizarro thing, which always confused me, when I would see some of these, like, he won 5-4. Like five, what? So they do this thing where if it's tie three, three, it becomes a two out of three series. Yes. So it's like a new match. Like a new match. And I took full advantage of that.
    22:58
    Yes, you did. So after Captain Fantastic was? I believe it was Whitewater. Now this is where I had to actually go outside and do the lawn, so I was listening. And the bad thing about listening onto a Twitch feed is you go from Wi-Fi. I have a four-acre lawn, so it was from Wi-Fi. I'd lose like 15 seconds and go back on regular data. And I'd go back and forth, and I was like, I got to do it. We've had so much rain out here, so I had to do the lawn. So I was like listening. So you'll have to fill me in more on this part for the next game. Oh, the Whitewater was probably one of the most exciting games from both players' perspective. I think that was the only game where we both, or one of the games where we both did the thing, and he just did it better than me, and it was pretty exciting. Ball one, we both did nothing. Ball two, we both played a multi, or no. Ball two, I got my multiball basically ready to go, but didn't consummate it, so I had like 40 million or something. Kaylee on ball two, or I think even on ball one, Kaylee blew his multiball. He got zero dots. or one jackpot. Like, really bad multi-ball. And so I was going into my ball three being like, all right, I just got to get multi-ball and put them away. And I did, and I got triple jackpots going, but I only hit, like, two or three of them, which, you know, I was like, oh, man, I really left a lot on the table there. But the Twitch chat or the commentator booth, which you could hear the whole time while you're playing. Oh, no. I was wondering about that, because I saw Kaylee reacting to some of the things they were saying. It's like, can you actually hear them? Yeah, you could. Well, especially on the Tron game, you could almost hear word for word everything, because it was right next to it. But I don't know. It was kind of fun. But, yeah, so on Whitewater, you know, I was like, the boots was going wild. Everyone's going wild. They all thought I killed it. And I'm, like, you know, kind of mad at myself for blowing. I put up like 250 million, which, you know, whatever. Like, that's whitewater. It's not that great. But then Kaylee had like 50 million going into his ball. But what the stream didn realize was I was watching Kaylee on his ball too And after Kaylee sucked on that multiball he went straight for lighting his second multi which most people would think would be crazy but Kaylee knew like if he wanted to win this game he was gonna need to get to another multi-ball and it worked out because on ball three he just needed like one more lock which you know was four target hits two on each side but he did it and he came back with like 400 plus million and that was the first time I've ever seen Kaylee like smile and show emotion. He hit the game-winning triple jackpot and threw up his arm, like, with a fist and did, like, a, fuck yeah, like, it was crazy.
    25:51
    And that is one of the most nerve-wracking shots when you're trying to lock, you're trying to get both green targets twice. Yeah. Because it can rebound right back at you, it can bounce any which way, it sometimes, you know, even when you're getting the ball into the lock, if you don't get a straight shot, you hit the side of the walls, and then it's like, is it coming back down, is it going go right straight down the middle? Yeah, no, he did it perfectly. I think he even finished with the perfect bounce in, like off the green target into the no way out. Like he was dialed on that, yeah. Okay, so you lose that game. So what are you thinking now? You've come from behind to tie it. You get the two out of three, and then you lose the first game. You're thinking like, oh, man, this is going to really suck if I come back all the way and then I lose anyway. Yeah, well, yeah.
    26:40
    So the next game is... Jackbot. Oh, Jackbot. Yeah. What, you don't like Jackbot, Bruce? It's just... I like it, it's just gimmicky.
    26:54
    I've become more of a fan, I must say, after playing it in the last tournament I was in. It's a really fun tournament. Yeah, everyone hits the button, they're like, oh, what are they hitting? Am I supposed to hit the button? What is that for? no the uh jackpot um was kind of an obscure choice because everyone knew that that kaylee loves jackpot and like he he was like the founder of the jackpot no switch thing like i don't know if you know about that validation trick on jackpot where you basically get jackpots before the ball is even in play and then you drain and you get more jackpots and you know that sort of nonsense Okay, I knew the deal, like just soft plunging to go for the, but there's even more play field validation tricks? Yeah, so at the beginning of a multiball, like if you start your second multiball where you lock two balls in the eye and then it spits out a third ball, you can short plunge, hit one of the jackpots, like the hit me target or the under the ramp, and that will only count as one switch, and then you can just let it drain. and you'll get a jackpot, but you get the ball back and you'll be able to do it again. So you can basically start multiball with two of your jackpots already hit, which is cool. Damn, okay. Yikes. That's one of those things that will require skill.
    28:16
    Yeah, you hear, like, Raymond say this and like, oh, yeah, and then you actually try it once and it fails miserably. It's like, oh, yeah, I can't do that. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I ended up blowing it on my second multiball. I did it a little bit on my first multiball, but, yeah, so Jackpot, you know, I was up for the challenge. I was like, you know what, Kaylee may know this game, but I was playing really good on it. Like, I had played it in earlier rounds because all my opponents kept choosing it. Like, Daniele chose it. I think even Wardrick chose it, but I'm not positive.
    28:51
    But, yeah, I just felt really hot on it. So I picked it, and it worked out. I got, like, four bills or whatever. Four billion. Yes, you did. Which leads us to the final. The World Cup final. Oh, I was so happy to see that. Like, wow, a game I actually know and is relatively easy to explain to, like, a viewer at home what you're trying to do. Right. And, man, that goalie was a pain in the ass. He'd have one of those, like, the goalie that hardly moves, so he doesn't have the full range of motion, and he moving fast, like, blocks most of the shots. The free kick, the goalie stayed, like, in the direct center. Like, there wasn't even much room next to him. Yeah. So you pretty much killed that, if I remember. Didn't you get, like, through all the, pretty much all the cities on the first multi-ball?
    29:43
    Yeah, so ball one, we both basically got a one flip and drained. and so it was looking pretty exciting. But then ball two, I don't remember if Kaylee started his multiball in ball two or not. Yeah, he did. He did like a tip-in to final draw, which was super exciting, and he got like a couple jackpots, nothing too serious. But then I played my multiball, and, yeah, it went all the way to Germany and ended with like $1.2 billion or something. and yeah it was crazy it was like the balls just perfectly you got in that rhythm on World Cup where it's like ramp, jackpot, ramp, jackpot and you know a little lucky assist and that sort of thing but it was yeah it was crazy. And Kaylee was second so you got to do the thing on the third ball where you're sitting there praying he drains as soon as possible Right, I was the second player so Kaylee was first Oh yeah that's right, you didn't even play your third ball Right. That's right. The crazy part was ball three. Kaylee was basically doing what I was doing. He started his multiball, and he was going. He had three balls in play for what seemed like eternity, and I was like, oh, no. Oh, no.
    31:00
    He's doing it. Then eventually he fell short on the multiball, and then he had a weird tilt to end the game. It didn't look like he moved it that hard, But, you know, sometimes if you're nervous, you can end up bumping it way harder than you think. Yeah, he was, it looked like he was determined to do the, like, either hit the left ramp or hit the striker shot back and forth to try to get back in the multiball again. He definitely was, that was the goal. Yeah, I mean, I want to know how much bonus he had, because he had like 55 million super ramp total. So that means he played at least two super ramps, which means, you know, two full sets. He probably had like $200 million bonus, but I mean, I guess it wasn't enough, so he knew he had to go all the way. And he wins the championship. And he got that big monster trophy. Yeah, that I actually managed to fit in my suitcase, and it is sitting at my desk at work. Very cool. I saw that picture, yeah. It's like, hey, and it fits. I know, and it fits. I hear you have some interviews coming up besides this with one of our favorite podcasts, Jeff Teolis. Pinball Profile. Yes. I'm Jeff Keel. It's for Pinball Profile. I know. He has the best voice for... Yeah, he has the radio voice. He truly has the radio voice. Yep. So that is actually really cool. Oh, yeah. I mean, I guess I'll have to reach out to him. But, yeah, someone commented on the Pinball Profile thing, like, interview with Ray, and he was like, he's next. And I was like, I am?
    32:36
    Yeah. I saw his whole list. We go back and forth, and he's got some good guests coming up, too. He's got some really good guests, though. That's actually really exciting. So, hi, Jeff. Yeah. So, my question is, when does the Raymond versus Escher match occur? I need to see this. This needs to be on the Twitch stream. I haven't really played against him that much, but the last time I did, I really regret it because it was at InDisc, and he was in my group, And I had won the first game, and I think I even, like, got... I won the first game, and then, for some stupid reason, I chose to go fourth on the next game and let Escher choose the game. And he chose Wheel of Fortune, and it completely crushed me. I got, like, two million points. And the way that the points all worked out, because Escher had won the Wheel of Fortune game, which I let him pick, stupidly, it basically almost locked me out to where I would need to win my last game. and, yeah, it just all fell apart. So that's the experience I have playing against Escher, was me letting him choose Wheel of Fortune and crushing my in-disc tournament. Sounds like he wants a rematch. If there's any pinball promoters out there, make it happen. I want to see it. On Twitch. That would be fun. Love promos against each other. It would be great. The Papa World Champion versus the Ithaca World Champion. They could have Escher could do the promo or his dad could do the promo for him. He could be his manager.
    34:07
    My son is the best player in the world. You're going down. And then you got back, what, yesterday? Yeah, I left Copenhagen at, like, 6 a.m., flew through Amsterdam at, like, 10 a.m., landed in Seattle at 11 a.m. So, you know, only an hour away. Yeah, that's it.
    34:30
    Yucks. I slept all day yesterday. I just got home and went to bed at, like, 2 p.m. and just slept the full cycle until, you know, 7 or 8 in the morning today. Cool. So congratulations once again. Yes. Thank you. We are definitely rooting for you. Oh, that's awesome.
    34:49
    So you're always welcome to stay around because we're going to talk some news about new stuff. We're going to talk about new stuff. New games. Yes. Exciting new games. Exciting new happenings. Let's just start with the news. I'll stick around. Peace of news. We love you, though. Peace of news. Feel free to comment on these games that no one has played yet, but you wouldn't know it by some of the comments we've seen. But, gosh, which I am going to go over, man, because it's hilarious. It's hilarious. The worst secret in pinball, Star Wars, was announced by Stern. Whoa.
    35:23
    Holy crap. I didn't know that. In the most non-exciting way. And we talked about Stern's marketing. And I'm not making any of this up now. It was literally revealed, I think Stern on their Facebook page just had like a banner that said Star Wars. And then on the Star Wars show, which is something like on the Star Wars Facebook, there was a 15 to 20 second just blurb on the game. where they showed a couple pictures. The usual promo pictures that Stern always showed, they showed really fast. They showed some gameplay, and that was it. And then after the segment was over, they mentioned how one of their fellow, I don't know, employees, producers, whatever, owns eight machines and has no life.
    36:18
    And that was it. That was the reveal. so everyone started taking screencaps of the video, getting wonderful grainy pictures of the play field. According to Pinside, it is clearly the worst game ever. Yeah, just like they said about every other one except for Ghostbusters. I was going there. I mean, even Aerosmith. Art works great, but it looks like Kiss.
    36:44
    That was the, yeah. So, yeah, let's see. From Pinside, the art is horrible. Horrible Photoshopped art, even though it isn't.
    36:55
    But it is kind of – it reminds me of Sega. It does. Very Sega-like type feel there. With the good thing about us being so, you know, recording on Tuesdays, these came out Wednesday, now we have the high-quality pictures, like everyone else didn't. Yeah, yeah. So you should live in more. Or we can, well, and I'm just trying to think of some of the other comments, how, oh, yeah, the pro especially is just ACDC. Someone did the overlay of ACDC on top of it, showing it's pretty much the same play field, which it kind of is, but, I mean, it's Steve Ritchie. Every game is. Yeah, it is. Every Steve Ritchie game looks like a Steve Ritchie game. Every board game looks like a board game at this point. The only one who's any different is Trudeau. He's the only one who really makes anything that's completely different every time. And people give him shit. So what are you going to do? Yeah, yeah. They give him shit because, you know, he tries things like a ring in WWE and maybe it doesn't work that well, you know. But you can't win. You can't win on pin side. And it wasn't just pin side. Oh, my God. I went on the old RGP, Rec Games Pinball, which was pin side before there was pin side. But now all the old-timers hanging out there like, you know, me and probably Bruce. It's still the best place to get tech advice, I'd say. It is. But some of their comments. Let's see. From the looks of it, Stern blew it on this one. It looks like a piece of Stern shit. It's loathsome and offensive. It sickens me. It looks like shit. Stern makes trash.
    38:31
    The pros look like it's Vizzle machines made of plastic. Yeah. Yeah, so they really love it, too. Also, we got the great Pinside posts where, like, I was totally on board, you know, before it was actually shown, but now I'm going to keep my money type deal. And you know one thing that all this has in common? You know how many people have played it?
    38:55
    Zero. No one has played it. But it's the worst game ever. I am holding judgment until I play it. Do I like the look of it? It's not bad. It doesn't bother me. Have you seen any of the pictures, Raymond? Yeah. Um, it, it just looks, um, you know, generic fan layout with kind of small shots. I think no fear, people brought a no fear analogies. Um, it really just matters what the code is like. That's exactly it. I like the U-shape. I like the U-turn. Well, yeah. And, and it's, it seems to be the Steve Ritchie thing last couple of games where the, the premium LEs have a lot more stuff on them than the pro. It was like majored. I mean, there's a whole wire form that's not there, which looks like a major thing. Yeah, it looks like it's going to be the accelerator. It's going to be like, well, yeah, like you said, no fear or get away.
    39:52
    I mean, again, got to wait until we actually play it. So, I mean, you got Dwight Sullivan programming it, so there's bound to be some really crazy scoring. And there's a video mode in it. Of course, the video mode, because video modes are so great. They have one insert right in the middle, video mode. Lovely. Yes. He is steadfast with his love of video modes. He is. We love you, Dwight.
    40:24
    He also programmed one of our favorites who done it. He did. Let's see. Other major news, but we'll let you do the highway thing. Oh, highway pinball. Well, I'm going to go back a little bit. Remember like episode 13 or 14 I said that one or two pinball companies are going to go out of business before July 4th?
    40:48
    Well, hold on. Dutch Pinball is dead in the water right now. It's a shame. They made a good pinball machine and now with ARA wanting 51% of the business and they don't want to give it up, they're in limbo. So, honestly, they're not even a pinball company right now. So that didn't work out. The dude leaving or got fired or whatever, and then they were, you know. Well, then ARA said, we'll come back, and we want 51% of Dutch Pinball, and then we'll make the pinball machines. ARA is the one who's building them, right, that has them, like, held hostage? Yes. So then they went back, supposedly their customers, and the customers all said, no, we want you to make the pinball machines. So they told ARA, no, and now they're going to try to find either a different manufacturer or it's just, it's a dead, it's honestly dead. Dead Jim. Until they, it's dead Jim, you know. Until they figure out what's going on, unfortunately, they're not selling products. So if you're not selling a pinball machine and you can't produce the pinball machine, you're not a pinball company. It sounds like they're in that spot where they need money, but they can't sell the games to get the money and vice versa. They're like trapped. which is very similar to the situation Highway was in. Here's a Clip Notes version of it. Andrew Highway starts a pinball company. He makes the full throttle game.
    42:15
    He moves to various different factories. They were a small one, and they were a bigger one, but no, it's too big now, now they're in a smaller one. At some point, he runs out of money. So investors come in. Investors pump some money in. They keep going. They get to a certain point where that money's gone. So he needs more money. And the investors say, like, we'll put more money into this, but not if you're running it.
    42:40
    So he is stepping down from the company that bears his name. So Andrew Highway will no longer be with Highway Pinball. And this all came out on a post on Pinside where the investors, they're actually called the Highway Investors. they have a post on Pinside where they explain all this and you know it's an exciting new time as we're going to be making games now and etc. but I thought it was kind of tacky that they had the highway logo on there but with like the pinball machine removed and the dollar sign there instead. That's like the avatar they took for their Pinside account that they used to post this which was kind of interesting. I'm going to use a Monopoly term. Cash grab! Yeah, so they had, and then you had like Highway himself came on, they confirmed like, yes, this is totally legit, and a couple other of the employees came on and said, yep, this is totally legit, this is what's happening, so there you go. But now they're appealing, they're trying to appeal from people actually from jumping out.
    43:45
    Oh, yeah. That's the big thing now. Yeah. They want to stop these people from. From all wanting their money back? Yes.
    43:52
    So, what a mess. We learned once again that building pinball machines is hard. Yes, and you should not prepay for a pinball machine. You should not prepay. Not now. Definitely not now. Not ever. Well, you did. You did twice. No, I didn't. You did? Wizard of Oz and Hobbit. I put deposits down. Never paid in full. Okay, okay.
    44:17
    I think some of the annual stuff is the deposit, too. No. Actually, there's some people out there that paid in full. Oh, well, that's unfortunate. Oh, yes. That's unfortunate. And now their new thing is for Highway Today was, oh, well, here's our new team members, and here's the new people we have. And, oh, if you back out of Alien Pinball now, we're going to be increasing the price. They're increasing the price of Alien.
    44:40
    So now if you get out and you want to get back in later on, it's going to be more money to you. So you might want to just stay in.
    44:50
    Yeah. So what's the, did they say what the new price is going to be? No, they haven't said anything yet. So I'm assuming probably 70, probably going to bump it up a thousand bucks. I guarantee it. They have to. So Raymond, have you played Alien at all?
    45:03
    No, that's one of the games I actually haven't even seen. Like I either, they've been too crowded with people or I haven't really been to many shows that have them. So let's see, out of the new stocks, you haven't played Alien. Have you played Dialed In at all? yeah I played that at Papa a bunch pretty fun the only problem I saw with it was I think in order to do anything you had to first hit the little electric guy and that sort of like unlocked everything which is kind of annoying that it's like you know that linear like as soon as you put on the ball you have to hit him sort of thing but the shots feel good and the gameplay is fun that's what we like to hear being that we each have one on order yes we do we need approval We need approval. We need other people's approval of our game choices.
    45:52
    How about, let's see, did you get a chance to play Houdini? No. I'm trying to think. What other ones? How about Total Nuclear Annihilation?
    46:03
    No, I haven't. Yeah, no. I don't even know. I haven't even looked at pictures of it. I don't even know what it looks like. I should probably do that. Middle 80s, single level. yeah it's like a throwback I actually could use I could use an 80s style game that's the one error I don't have is like a solid state yeah it's meant to be it's meant to feel like a mid 80s game about the future and what they would have thought the future was in the mid 80s total nuclear annihilation yep and it even has like regular displays like it has like a not a DMD it has like an LCD screen but it also has regular score displays and does like a bonus countdown, you know, like an A's game would do. It has the most ridiculously fast kick-out thing I've ever seen. Faster than Iron Man?
    46:54
    Like you hit it in a scoop and it comes out immediately. Like the spooky, what is it called, the America's Most Haunted, like that one kick-out they have where you hit it and it comes out ridiculously fast. This thing will be even faster. so and it's it's like you're trying you're actually trying you go into the future and you want to reactivate reactors to blow people up to save the world or something you need to destroy stuff to save the world it's nice yeah so yeah i think it looks pretty cool that'll be interesting depending what the price point is yeah for that i mean that that i might even consider that because I actually got to play, and it was pretty damn cool. It is fun. I was tempted, my friend Rodney Olson, who's very well known in the Seattle community, call him the Rodfather, because if you want any game, he can get it for you.
    47:53
    We have your connection, Ron. Maybe he can find the Dragon Fist. He said Rod. Rod, please. Dragon Fist. Yeah.
    48:04
    I'm looking for a Dragon Fist or a Cheetah. he was telling me I should get in on the AFM remakes because they're only some amount of dollars like 60 something hundred and he's like yeah I wasn't gonna get one but I snapped I just pulled the trigger and got a LE or whatever he's like you should get one too they're not gonna go down like and I almost did even though I have played AFM a million times and it's a great game but I don't know what I would do if I owned one. Like, I'd get bored of it probably. But, yeah, that excites me, the remake of AFM. And they're now on the line being burned in. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, they posted a picture. Steve Fountain posted a picture today stating they're being burned in. So they'll be shipping soon. And speaking of dialed in, Jack should be shipping the first game within a week or two. To Europe, though, right? anywhere, but they guess what they're doing. Not to Ron Hallett, though. No, not to Ron Hallett. Ron Hallett is number 733.
    49:09
    Yep. And Bruce ordered it at his show, so he's probably order number 100, and he'll get it before mine. Excellent. That's what's going to happen. Yeah, they were showing AFMs being burned in on Fun With Bonus Seabound's page. Let's get the plug in there.
    49:27
    So, Ron. Yes, Bruce. I think that's all the news. I think that's all the news we have. Except for one more thing. Hold on, one more thing I forgot. Tim Balls is going to have a little surprise tomorrow, which is going to be after our podcast is being announced. But he's supposedly going to have possibly the first video of Star Wars being played. Yes, that's true. Well, there was a promo on Facebook that I saw in my news feed of some Star Wars gameplay. Does that not count? No, it doesn't. It's actually going to be live by people who actually flip it.
    50:02
    Well put together edited shots to make it look like things. Exactly. Although, who knows? Elvin might have been playing it in the clips. Who knows? You don't know. But, yeah, it was heavily edited where we just show, like, here's a ball hitting the drop targets. Watch them reset. It says force on it. See? Look at these inserts. Look at the bizarre. hit the button on the lockdown bar 10 times isn't that cool? look, destroy these, hit the button hit the button see them isn this great like oh no No another stupid video mode Oh God Look at the artwork Look at how we have Han Solo Princess Leia Luke Skywalker and R2 Huh? They're the main... They're the big four? I'm wondering if it's going to be like a Game of Thrones-style thing where you choose your character at the beginning, and then that's... That'd be kind of cool. That'd be kind of cool. I'm choosing Darth Vader, even if he's not choosing me. Fail.
    51:03
    Come on, why would you choose anyone but Darth Vader? Fail. Okay. Anyway, you were saying about Timmy. Timmy's actually going to be, well, actually, Levy. He is actually in London right now, and tomorrow is the game show that's going to be happening, like, for big distributors out in Europe. And supposedly there is a Stern Star Wars that's going to be on there, So hopefully Levi will be able to take some video, and we'll be able to see it tomorrow night. Can he do commentary on his own video? I think so, because he's got to do either Facebook or something else. Tim said that he would be providing commentary. I'm wondering if it's going to be just like, because Tim said he's streaming it on his Twitch feed. Yeah. So I don't really have him doing that. I don't know. I don't care. As long as we see something. Maybe we'll make believers out of the Pinsiders, or this will just add on to the pylon. Add on to the pylon. Did you guys see at IFPA, one of the games they streamed was a recording of a Facebook Live broadcast? Oh, no. Oh, I did not see that. The camera wouldn't reach all the way to the back room, so they had Colin McAlpine record on his phone, and then they fed that into the... Oh, okay, yeah, I think I did see that. I remember that. Because he was showing the game, and he was doing, like, commentary over it or something like that, yeah.
    52:24
    One thing that disturbed me, though, with IFPI, they didn't have a single classic stern. That was something brought up. That was brought up. They didn't really have any variation. They had two EMs in the whole building and a bunch of new sterns and Valley Williams. Luckily, next year there will be some variation. Well, there's going to be lots of variation. Because it's in Canada. Yeah, it's in Canada in Adam Becker's, like, pinball palace building. He's building it. It looks like for this. Yeah, I mean, and he literally is building this as, like, I want this to be in Canada. So I'm going to get as many freaking games as possible. I mean, it's ridiculous the amount of games he has. Yeah. He's a workhorse, man. And he's a lot of good for IFPA also, so that's another good thing. So shout out to Adam. Hey, Adam. But next year, whoever's going to IPA 15, you will have a monster selection to choose from. Oh, boy. You'll get to play Stargazer. I know that. Yes, you will, Stargazer. And I think he's in a Quicksilver.
    53:31
    And he's got a Stars, of course. I know that. And a couple of the older Sterns. Well, a Stars is required. Of course it is. Because Stars, I mean, it's the greatest game ever. Everyone who knows the podcast knows that. It's the greatest game. Dude, I have the best Starz story. When I went to Papa, I think it was my first year, and I played the classics games not really knowing what the hell I was doing. I put up the top score on Starz. I think it was like 500,000 or 600,000, something pretty ridiculous, without a center post.
    54:04
    And I had no clue. And everyone kept coming up to me like, dude, killer Starz game. How the hell did you do that? And I was like, I don't know. I had never played the game, didn't know anything about it, and now, any time I play it, I just completely shit the bed. Like, I'm 100,000 every game. They took the center post out. Oh, yes. That's insane. That's ridiculous. That was back when Topps was run, not by Mark Simon, but by whoever they had before. Yeah, when they would bastardize, really bastardize the contestants. You don't take the center post out. It's literally, it's not like games where it's put there to prevent trains. the game is designed to have a center post because of the flipper gap. Yeah, yeah. It was just, I just remember that so vividly. Well, the thing is, I don't remember it that vividly. I don't remember actually playing the stars and how I got the points. And, like, I just remember people coming up to me and, like, maybe the game malfunctioned. Who knows? But, like, yeah, I don't know. They just have given a bonus that he didn't notice. Yeah. Damn.
    55:06
    Yes, we love stars. Yes, we do. Did you know there's a tournament coming up, Bruce? I think there is a tournament coming up, and the new flyer has been posted. Oh, my. The Stomp Tournament.
    55:21
    Stomp. The Slam Tilt. Oh, my. Pinball Tournament. Who came up with that? Ron. No, actually, one of our viewers, one of our listeners. Yeah, well, one of our listeners came up with the name. The poster, the flyer, was by Kevin Manning. Yes. Props to Kevin Manning and all the folks at Buffalo Pinball. That kicked ass. Kevin does a great job. He does all my flyers for all my tournaments. He made that one up because Ron gave him a couple of, like, you know. I think all they said is, like, I want stars in it, and I want it to have the Star Trek font. And no, you wanted George Takei also. Okay, that's what I said. It had to have George Takei and the Star Trek font in it. Yep. So, boom, it's got George Takei, it's got the Star Trek font, and it's got stars, which is purple for some reason. It's a purple stars. I don't know how he did that. Stars, it looks like an alley cabinet with stars in it. It does. It probably is.
    56:16
    It's a prototype stars. Maybe. Who knows? Ron, did you do any repairs this week? Yes. A rare yes answer. Because listeners of the podcast, I've been working on Cheetah forever.
    56:33
    And it's finally up. I was actually playing games on it yesterday, finally. Woo! Had to make, see, even if you do one of these shop jobs, I had to do at least an hour of adjusting. It's not Cheetah. It's Big Game, right? Big Game. Did I say Cheetah? You said Cheetah. Cheetah is always on my mind. That shows itself. But Big Game, yeah, like, you know, switch doesn't work. Got to adjust it. Pop-up is too sensitive. Now it's not sensitive enough. The right sling is machine gunning. Got to fix that. The two switches at the top when you flinch the ball aren't, you know, the ones where the dead bounce, where the ball hits and it just makes a sound, they're not working. Got to get those working.
    57:15
    The spinner, the spinners spin awesome, but I can never hit them right. And I think I finally figured out why. On big game, there's a little post that's, it actually protects the right side of the spinner where the actual, the arm is that goes underneath the play field, protects it from being hit. It's a mini post.
    57:35
    Mine is sheared off. You know your quicksilver thing that you showed me where it's sheared off inside the play field? Guess what? It's sheared off inside the play field. So we have to do that twice now. Well, the thing is, on mine, the head of the bolt that goes through is still there. So I'm going to take a Dremel, put a notch in it, and then I should be able to just use the straight screwdriver to get it out. and I have like a newer style mini post that I can go all the way through the play field and then put a nut on it, and that'll take care of that. But I don't have a Dremel. I have a Dremel. I got to get a Dremel bit for my drill. I have a Dremel. Yeah, but I need to fix this now. I don't even know what a Dremel is. It's like a high-speed grinder. You can actually put bits on it. Oh, my. Grinding wheels. You can put anything on there. You can put a screwed driver on there. You can do anything. Yeah. It's like a multi-functioning handheld tool. And what I'm doing, really? Oh, my.
    58:37
    So it's got a head. Oh, wow. Actually, that didn't come out right either. But it is. Think of a screw head, but with no, like it's not Phillips or straight. It's just a head. So I'm just taking a Dremel to cut a notch in it so I can then use a, you know, flat screwdriver to just get it out because that's the only way it's coming out. other than drilling all around it and trying to get it out that way, and I really don't want to do that. That's what I have to do. Unfortunately, with the Quicksilver that me and Ron bought, that safe bolt is broken. Yeah, it's broken, but do you have the screw head on the other side? Yeah. So what, did it, like, tear off? Because it goes all the way through the play field. It broke off, and it's actually, like, a quarter inch, or at least a quarter inch in the play field deep. Well, is it, did it not go through the play field? Is it just, like, a wood screw? No, it's a wood one. It's a wood threaded one. Oh, yeah, you're screwed, dude. No, we're not.
    59:29
    Mr. Scott gave me the idea to go from underneath. He's going to go from behind. Yes, go from behind, a couple drills. Drill around it. You've got to drill it from behind and get it to go out the front. There you go. Grab it and twist it out. Yep.
    59:45
    Put it what? We're talking about taking the screw out. What the hell? Drew's got dirty minds, I'm telling you. All that was 100% legit what he just said. It is, unfortunately. So that's my next thing. and then I have to take the back glass, and actually we have a new back glass, so I'm actually going to have to take the bottom rail off the back glass, which is the – Ron told me how to do this, and Ron, I'll let you explain it a little bit better, what I have to do for this back glass removal. Oh, yeah, this is not my tip by any means. This probably came from RGP, as most good tips come from, but if you have an old back glass, like, say, a quicksilver back glass or any old back glass that has the lift channel on it on the bottom, Usually they're in there with friction tape, and you can't get it off easily. And obviously you probably don't want to be hitting it with a hammer to try to get it off because it's glass. So what you can do is you turn the whole back glass, you just flip it upside down, and you wedge it in between whatever. I'm trying to remember how I did it originally. But you just wedge it in a way that the glass itself is pulling down. It's pulling itself out of the lift channel. and just put a pillow, like, under the back glass so it doesn't, like, you know, shatter when it hits the floor. And it may take a couple days, but it will slowly start to work its way loose on its own, where it'll get to a point where you can just get the lift channel off easily. So that might be this weekend's fun. When you put the lift channel on, you do the opposite. You get friction tape, put at least, you know, like two strips of friction tape on either side, put it inside. Where did I get it? You can get it. I mean, I think it's the same kind of tape that they use, like, where they put hockey sticks.
    61:30
    A? Yeah, A. Like the, you know, the black tape. I see it. I can get it at Home Depot. Oh, before I forget, before I get it on.
    61:40
    USA. Another thing I was cheating during, chanting during IFPA. USA. As soon as I spelled it all USA final. We somehow lost the F team cup. Yeah, I don't know. What's going on with that? Come on. My part. I got all my points. Okay. That's okay. But it's like, come on. Really? I got almost all my points. I lost a point to Robert Sutter's $500 million on Whitewater. I mean, this is as bad as losing the Ryder Cup. I mean, we can't be losing the Epstein Cup. Come on. But we did. We make the games, damn it. Come on. It's embarrassing. I know it's, what, a French game originally, but I guess not. Come on. Chicago. Pinball. I just, oh, I'm sorry. USA. So, Raymond, we know how you did this past week in pinball. You did great. Ron, did you play anything?
    62:30
    No, I didn't play. I didn't play any at all. Sorry. Okay. I realize I really suck at pinball lately now. Even with your glasses? Even with my glasses. Saturday I went to Syracuse, played in the Selfie League Finals.
    62:44
    I was like the seventh place qualifier. I finished eighth out of eight people. So that tells you how bad I did. That sucks, Bruce. Well, it gets better. It gets better. So the Rochester Selfie League Finals were on Sunday, and Kathy actually made it and qualified with me. You see where this is going, don't you? Oh, boy. You let her win. No, I never let anybody win. But she beat me. The first time ever in IFPA rankings, she beat me in a tournament. What did she beat you on?
    63:20
    She beat me in three games. She actually crushed it. We had three rounds, so she made it past the first round. We weren't together in the first round. Second round, she finished third in the round. I finished fourth out of the four people. So the top two moved on to the finals. She beat me. And she took Medieval Madness. She got three points on Medieval Madness and a couple other ones. Yeah, I suck. The only thing I can get points on was whodunit. Well, maybe you'll have a chance at Stomp.
    63:48
    Maybe. I don't know. Maybe I just want to be the cheerleader and go, go, guys, go. Oh, you're going to sit out too? I don't know. Yeah, I suck at pinball lately. Yeah, you can't sit out because, I mean, it's not like you play my games all the time. I mean, you're at my house maybe a couple times a year. I think I play the most out of, you know, besides your father. Actually, Zach.
    64:12
    Zach, maybe, yeah. Have you decided you're playing in it, Ron? No, he's not. I don't want to play in it. but now I have people yelling at me, telling me I'm supposed to, which actually could lead to the mail ball bag. Yes, it will in a few seconds, but Stomp is on July 15th. East of Albany, New York.
    64:34
    $15 prepay, $20 at the door. If Raymond flies out, I'll pay for his entry. Tempting offer. Really? Look at that. I got them. I got them all.
    64:50
    But George TK will be there in some form. He'll be there. He got confirmation of it. We have confirmation. George TK will be there in one form or another. I am also getting a, I'll have like a larger LCD screen there like Bruce had at his tournament. So if you are not smartphone inclined, you will still be able to see who the hell you're playing and the leaderboard.
    65:14
    Let's see. I'm going to go through them one more time. I'm going to do things like I'm going to go, I'm probably going to use, I'm going to tape up all the interlock switches so we can open the coin doors without destroying anything or whatever.
    65:31
    Actually, I think it was a Kaylee and Eden Stan trick, like using, what did they say, use Gaffer's tape. That's what I used. Yeah, because they say, like, it doesn't, you know, it comes off, It sticks good, but it comes off easy without, like, leaving all kinds of crap behind. So I'll be getting all the – I mean, the games are fairly ready. I mean, I don't – when you get to a point, when you get beyond a certain number of games, I think you find you play them less and less. So really, they're not played that much. So everything will be – How many games do you have? Too many. What is it? Well, now that the big game is working, that's 23. Okay. And you'll have Quicksilver there. Quicksilver will be there. Dialed in? Probably not. You know, I never thought I would, you know, I always thought, like, having 20 games or whatever was insane, but it really snowballs. Like, when I had two for the longest time, then once I got my third, the fourth and fifth, like, were super fast afterward, and then the next three instantly after that. So I can definitely see how it happens now. Yeah, I always go back to the same story. my first pinball expo, Chicago Pinball Expo 2004, I had just, and again, this is early in the addiction, I purchased like a game retail, which don't do that, and they were getting it ready for me, so I hadn't picked it up yet, a black knight, and so I'm there and I'm telling people like, oh, actually, you know, I got my first game, it's on the way, and the guy's there, oh, okay, so when are you getting your next game? It's like, well, no, I only have room for one He's like, oh no, you'll be getting another game It's like, you'll need at least two Because one will always be broken Oh my That's the first time I met Steve Ritchie It's like, hey, I'm getting one of your games That's cool That's when he was sitting at our table And everyone was kissing his ass It was bizarre I was so new, I didn't know I just knew he was a designer But man, they were like, you know You're the greatest And then I realized later he was the greatest and I should have been kissing his ass. So I apologize, Steve. I apologize for not showing you the proper respect.
    67:38
    So before we go to the mail ball bag, we've got two more things to talk about. Okay. First, I'm just going to tell Raymond, don't forget we need your game you like, game you hate. That's going to be coming up soon. So you can have a few seconds to think about it. A few seconds. You too, Ron. Oh, shit.
    67:53
    We're going to have a different recording time. We usually record Tuesdays. we're going to change our recording time after July 4th. Well, after the 50th episode. Yep. We're going to change it to Monday. We're putting it out there now to give a few weeks, because I know a lot of people, they'll be a couple episodes behind and stuff like that. And there's a lot of people who send us stuff knowing when we record, anticipating that we will say it on the air. So if they're sending it Tuesday, they'll be like, I sent the email, why didn't they mention it? Assholes. Yes. Which usually is always the same thing. So we're trying to let everyone know, and this is so Ron has more time. Do we have any? Yeah, because usually we finish, and then I literally have, I go to bed after these because, you know, I'm working all. And I usually just have Wednesday when I get home to do this because I want to get it out by Thursday, and it's just getting to be too long because I'm too OCD, and I could just put them out there in a fairly unedited form, but I just can't do that. But we wouldn't have the Beavis and Butthead. Yeah, well, that's already on there. See, most of it is like eliminating when, you know, when Bruce says the word actually like 20 times in a sentence.
    69:06
    Yeah, I can cut out at least 10 of them. Or when he says something that would really get us into trouble, I can kind of reel him in. What? Or when I say all my awesome jokes that don't hit at all and there's dead silence, I can cut them out. You know, unless it works and it's a deadpan delivery. And a take out long Pauses That may occur Because I don't want our listeners to have to listen to dead air So we're going to have a different recording time Definitely for Monday Got to keep them tight So now one last thing Appreciate you waiting an hour So I could get off work and make it home Oh yes we'd like that Have you done many West Coast guests actually? No You are our first. Yeah. West Coast, baby.
    70:00
    Now I have, first people are asking me on Facebook private messaging that if they send us an email to be the 50th guest, we are not going to talk about it. That will be part of the exempt ball bag. So I'm going to put that in the corner. No one's going to see your email asking about, you know, why we want you to be on the 50th guest. So one person said to me, like, I don't want you making fun of me. saying why I want to be. So I said, yes, we're not going to talk about that. So that's going to be the left sack of the mail ball bag. Yes, the left sack. Oh, yes. The right sack of the mail ball bag, we will say. Of course. Okay. But so if you put all your why you want to be on the show for the 50th episode, email us. We won't talk about it, but you must get it in before the end of the 49th, which is June 28th, we're saying for that one. But we have our first contest question. which is for the PV Helper we will be giving away on the 50th episode. First thing is going to be this. You must put your name, full name, email address on the email, on the title of the thing saying answering question for episode 46. And you must answer this question. You only get one shot at it, so make sure it's right. You'll have to go back through some of our episodes to find the answers. You can send the email to slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. I think that's only the second time I've ever said it out, you know, truly. You usually say it all the time. That is true. You never say that. I just thought of that. Yes. So here's our question. And you guys can't answer it either. So don't say it, Raymond. Don't say it, Ron. I think I'm the only one who knows the answer besides my wife because she actually knew it. This is surprising. This is like Wheel of Fortune when they tell you, don't say the answer to the puzzle.
    71:46
    Okay. And the question is, what episode started the Oh My My song? Okay. And truth be told, I have no idea what the answer is. Yeah, I don't know. I know it happened at some point. Yes, it did. You'll have to go back and figure out which one. Send it to us. What episode started the Oh My My song being played? By Ringo Starr. Yes. You guys haven't gotten a cease and desist for that yet? No. We haven't gotten a cease and desist.
    72:29
    I know. I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for George Takei to like, I don't like what you're doing. Oh, bye. He made a Super Bowl ad with his catchphrase. I'm sure he... Of course. If we got... See, he would be... If we got him on, that would be – I'd end the podcast if we ever got him on. We wouldn't be able to ever top that. If he's actually listening, we would want him to be the 50th guest. Oh, then the show would be over. Then the show would be over, and we can go, you know, I can get my Tuesdays back or no, my Mondays. All right. Okay, guys. Game you like, game you hate.
    73:10
    Now, Raymond, would you like to be the first one to go, or would you like to go last? I'll go first. Okay. All right. Game I like. I'm going to go with Elvis.
    73:23
    Very good pick. I like that pick. Yeah. It's a Steve Ritchie game, actually, which I didn't realize until we were talking about Steve Ritchie earlier. And I just like the music and the flow is pretty good. It's kind of fun. It's just a really fun game, and I kind of have a soft spot for it because it was the game that was in a movie theater that I would play when I was getting good. I was like 16 or whatever, and that game has a really good way of making you feel like you're the king, baby. Thank you very much.
    73:57
    TCB, baby. TCB. There's one in Lake George at the one arcade that is there every year, and the hound dog target is busted. It keeps going off, so all you just hear is the hound dog. Oh, oh, oh. Over and over and over and over. in my first X-Fo I ever went to, that was the game. That was the game. And that's back when they would, whatever the new game was, that's what the tournament would be on. Play that game. Yep. And the tournament was won by, guess who the tournament was won by? Keith Elwin. What do you think, Raymond? Is he right?
    74:34
    Lyman? I don't know. Probably Elwin. Yep, you are correct. Elwin. And don't forget the rules were done by Keith Johnson also, They were? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. And it's also when you won it at Expo, if you won the tournament, you won the game. So I don't know what happened to all these games Elwin won, because he won an Elvis. The next year he won a Pirates of the Caribbean. That's when I realized he was kind of in another level, because he got to the final. And these games were like on stock settings. They weren't tournament-ified. Yeah.
    75:07
    It's like when the show organizers did it, you know, before Trent took over, and he would actually make the games harder. So I remember his ball one on Pirates was like 40 minutes.
    75:20
    And I just like – and his opponent was like – his opponent actually had a good ball one and was like high-fiving the guy he was with, like, yeah. And then that one was out for 40 minutes and he looked totally defeated. It was over. I think that was it. That was like there was no two out of three or anything. I think that was the game. I remember reading an old interview with, they interviewed Keith Elwin like a lot of years ago. And one of the things Elwin said was he likes the older games because the ball doesn even fit down the out lane on some of these sterns Like Elvis that era of stern especially like if you were good you could just play forever on factory settings Yes. Thank God I'm not that good. Yeah, thank God neither.
    76:12
    And the game you hate, Raymond? I kind of have a trifecta. It's a three for one. Go for it. Comet Cyclone Hurricane. Oh, he's not a fan of the amusement series.
    76:26
    Yeah, I mean, I got to play Comet for the first time at IFPA 14 and not impressed, but it might have been due to fact because they had no outland posts on the right side, so one out of three or one out of two balls in the bumpers just shot straight down the right outland, which might have had something to do with it, but I don't know. Those games, they all have terrible jackpot things for tournaments, and they all just, it's kind of just lame. I don't know. I have to agree with him on that.
    76:54
    I really do. I like Cyclone. Cyclone's the only one that's okay. Okay. Hurricane, throw away. Comet, you can throw away.
    77:05
    Cyclone, I can go okay. And then if you add the fourth one, Roller Coaster Tycoon, another garbage one.
    77:12
    Hey, I like the flow of that game. It just has a horrible rule set where everyone times everything out. Who did those rules? I don't know. Are you going to start with him again? Dude, leave him alone. Man. I love beating a dead horse. I really do. Especially when his name is Lonnie. Stop. He helped.
    77:35
    So, Ron, would you like to go next? Or would you like me to go next? I guess I can go next. Go for it, sir. Game I like. Oh, God.
    77:45
    Did I say Aerosmith yet? I probably did. Okay, Aerosmith. I really like Aerosmith. Why? It's a better version of Kiss, which much better music.
    77:56
    I don't like the lock. The only thing I don't like is the lock. I like the lock. See, everyone, like, it bounces down. Yeah, it's hard to hit. No, no, not the bounce out. It's not the bounce out. It's just that you can't backhand it, so the right flipper's completely useless. So you have to go by the left flipper. If you get a good shot, you'll go in nicely and hopefully hold. What my strategy has been lately is just hit the freaking crate, and Magnet most of the time will throw it into it.
    78:22
    It's a toy box, Bruce, not a crate. I call it the crate. Okay, we'll call it the Ark. You can call it the Ark. That's kind of what it is. That does bug me when games have non-symmetrical uses. Like one flipper is just kind of not useful. It kills me. It really does. It kills me. Well, I like it. The artwork is tremendous. It's fun. Fair enough. It's fun. I mean, that's, there you go. That's important. That's very important. A game I hate? Well, Star Wars, obviously. You know, it's midnight, right? It's the worst game ever. I mean, I haven't played it, but I'm sure it sucks.
    79:02
    There you go. That was easy, Ron. Come on, no cheating. That was a small fall right down the freaking middle. There you go. Okay, okay.
    79:12
    Star Wars Trilogy. Okay. Never really liked that game. Which one is that? That's the one. Yeah, it's not the one with the center ramp you just hit three zillion times unless it has the different rule set in it. It's the other one. It's the one with the Sega, they call it the Showcase back box. Yeah, the circle, the concave.
    79:35
    Yep. Not a fun game. No. And speaking of Star Wars, Tim just sent me a PM of, he did a crawl, you know, like the Star Wars crawl with the words, you know, going through space. He did one for his stream tomorrow.
    79:52
    Nice. But he must realize when he sends these, he must use a high resolution because I literally cannot read the entire first paragraph. It says, the pinball something.
    80:05
    I'm mad at him. With the support of the best pinball designer of all time, Crazy Levy leads a brave resistance. He's desperate to set the record straight on those over-promising, underachieving boutique manufacturers who cannot match the might of Stern Pinball, industry leader since 2000. Levy has been out on his most daring secret mission to London, where a pinball manufacturer is rumored to have a brand new Star Wars pinball machine ready for play. So basically they're trolling Pinside big time I love it Yikes I don't mind I love having the more the merrier With the manufacturers But some of them They have a Rob Zombie game at Rock Fantasy The thing just kept having Issues with it I don't know how it's going to hold up to Location play If any of our listeners know Where there's a spooky or maybe a full throttle? How are they holding up on location if they're there? I'd be curious. We have one in Rochester. And how's it holding up? It's terrible.
    81:19
    Which one? Which one do you have? The Haunted. American Post Haunted. Oh, okay. It's actually on location. It's not meant for location. The problem is, what he has, most of his problem is, the ball trough. I said that? Yes. You said it right. Meanwhile, the ball will actually fall out of the ball trough. And so it gets completely lost and confused. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean it falls out into the cabinet? It falls out into the cabinet. You'll hear the ball go, boink. How does that happen? I will bring it on. I will bring Todd on. Todd is our local op out here in Rochester. Is it because a part fell off or something? It can't just fall out. It's just bad design. It's not meant for, you know, You can't even put a dollar bill validator on it. It's not set up for it when it first came out. I think now the final code actually does set up now for a dollar bill validator. All right. Don't want to pass to anyone here. I'm just saying, from a lot of what I've seen, I don't know if they're going to stay. Of course, we'll have listeners saying, hey, stir games don't stand up on location. Well, you know, especially the recent ones where their cabinets fall apart and their play field's ghost. So hopefully Raymond's is okay. Hopefully you've got a post-ghosting, post-cabinet change for model. I don't know. Yes.
    82:42
    So what's your game, Bruce? Game I like. I just played it tonight at Zach's house, The Shadow. Oh, yeah. Excellent flow game. When you get that loop in the middle, oh, it's just sweet shots. Brian Eddy at his best. very underrated Brian Eddy how is anything underrated everyone all the pin geeks love his games oh so everyone loves Black Rose that wasn't his he didn't design that John Trudeau designed that I didn't know he did the software no he did three games he did Shadow Attack from Mars and Medieval Madness actually he's included on the credits for IJ I think also for helping okay He's definitely on the credits for Black Rose. Yeah, he did the software.
    83:33
    That's the ultimate. He's the software guy, and man, he turned into a great designer, and then left to do video games. Come back, Brian. Come back, man. But Shadow just rocks. I played one with the color DMD, so I got to see that for the first time tonight, and that was really cool. It actually adds a lot to it. And, you know, when you get the old comments and Peking Duck and everything like that, and mongol, you know, it's a good, fun, slow game. And you actually saw the movie. I actually liked the movie. Yeah. What is that? Yeah. The movie is hilariously bad. It's exactly it. It's a 30s spoof of a radio show, and you just laugh at it. So I like it. Now, this is going to be a first for me, I think, on the podcast. Really? So it's not going to be a Gottlieb System 3? No, it's going to be another Williams. Uh, Popeye. And it's going to be WPC-ered. Only the second time I've actually bashed a WPC. Killigan's Island. Flintstones. Ooh. Hate it. Hate it? Hate is the wrong word. Well, I use it a lot in this show. You must know that now.
    84:47
    I really, really hate it. God. Okay, why? Why? It's got some nice shots. No, I don't like the shots. I don't like the sounds. The problem is, if they made the Flintstones not after the movie,
    85:01
    it would have held up so much better. In other words, if they made it after the cartoon. Yes, exactly. If they made it after the stupid movie, you know, Rick Moranis is pretty good at it, but it just wasn't a good movie for him. But, oh, yeah.
    85:15
    But wasn't he the only one that got to do voices for it? Yes. So you get to hear, like, him a lot. Yes.
    85:22
    And it's terrible. It just rinds me. and when I was playing the game back in the 90s and when they were going to auction back in the late 90s, guess what? That was the game all the ops were buying for two reasons. One, maybe for kids if it was going to a kid's location. Second, it was the best boards donor besides Popeye.
    85:40
    People would just buy these things up, take the boards out of it. So maybe it's going to get rarer one of these days, but just nothing for me. So it was like it was to WPC what Congo and NBA Fast Break was to WPC 95? Yes, sir. Okay. What? Congo is a great game. It is a great game. But back then, that was a game people would buy to part out and get the board sets for. Wow. So using games like Attack from Mars and Medieval Madness. Yep. And NBA Fast Break was another one. Yep. Unfortunate. Yes, I agree. That's horrific to me. I mean, I love Congo. But that's what happened. There were some bad decisions made back then. Yes. Bad name of gamers. So, are you ready for the mail ball bag? Oh, God, the mail ball bag. We're getting to home stretch. Yeah, we're getting to home stretch. And at first we have Scott basically calling me out for saying I'm not going to play. Yep. Ron has to play if only to get stomped into the ground.
    86:44
    As long as we have someone else scottify the games, it can't be cried foul unless the storm is there. And, oh, I don't know if he wanted me to read that. Nah. The storm. Well, Raymond might know who the storm is, but if the storm is there, then I recommend you have a sacrificial wall available for him to punch.
    87:03
    Okay. That would be interesting in mine because, you know, it's a basement with, you know, concrete walls. So that would hurt. That would really hurt. Let's see. Then we have, and you might have to correct me on this one, we have another, let's see, another Aussie listener. We're popular in Australia, man. You are. You always say you're number one in Poland. I think we're number one in Australia. I think we are. So let's see. It's from John. He's looking forward to Mel Brooks' movies.
    87:34
    And he wants to put a bit in for Star Trek films. Unfortunately, we've already done that. We did that. Episode 8 through 17 or 16. Something like that. We did them all. We did the motion picture up to the last one. Yeah, Undiscovered or whatever. We did the next one, too. That's, yeah, insurrection and all that. We went through all of them. Yep. We did all the way up to the newest one, to the last. So if you want to see, just go back to the old podcast, and you can listen to all those. Yes. And we did make fun of George the guy and all that other stuff. So whatever he says there, you know. We didn't think about, you know, William Shatner's course. That was the only thing we forgot about. William Shatner's course. Where's your pay? Oh, God, here we go. You can get the next one. Well, first we've got to go, springtime for Hitler in Germany. Sorry. That's from the producers, folks. He's not saying he's a Nazi. Please, do not send us angry hate mail. Nope, not at all. This one's from Jeff Carlson. First of all, I want to say that I subscribe to over 20 podcasts, pinball and arcade podcasts, and Slam Tilt is my favorite. Thank you very much, Jeff. With Coast to Coast and Hymer Nation and Pinhead Z with a Z-E-D, that's what he put, a no-show in 2017, Ron and Bruce have risen to the top. We've risen to the top. So all you have to do is just have your competition stop and then you're number one. Exactly. That was the plan the whole time. We're number three.
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    In a number two world. I especially appreciate the regularity of the releases, which we have been pretty religious with, and the perfect mix of news, competition, repair tech, EB, fines, banter, and yawning. You haven't even yawned yet. I haven't yawned yet. It's 15 at night, so we're doing really well. And you forgot guests. And I know. Don't forget guests. This is Jeff C. in Virginia from the Free State Pinball Association. Secondly, here's something I would not buy. This is actually very funny. This is legit. This is legit, folks. We're not making this up. This is truly legit. I'm going to go actually to my computer to do this one. Give me two seconds. I'll go back to it. I can say it. It's a skill crane game. It's a crane game. It's called Bunghole.
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    Yes. And the instructions say put bung in hole to win. Yes. It advertises a website called bunghole.com. It does. The ticket number is 201-936-834-900. So if you want to see this at home. And it's only $1,400 plus free shipping.
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    I know. I think it's made for us almost. Wow, that looks like a hard, like, what is that? It's just like a big. Yeah.
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    I'm not sure what I'm looking at here. I know. It looks like a big... Put the peanut in the hole. It's only $1,400.
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    And it's made in USA, in Los Angeles, California. Yeah, I'm sure it's made in Los Angeles, California.
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    Home of the porn industry. Real tourists redeem fun skill. What the hell, Bob? Damn. Damn, that's disgusting. World's cutest crane game. It is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but we got to buy this. It's free shipping. Yeah, yeah. It's free shipping. Yeah. What do you win, though? $10? Yeah, it looks like, yeah, I guess so. Or is it $10? Let's do the short video of gameplay. Wait a minute. There's a video?
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    Oh no, there can't be a video. Oh no. Oh my god. Oh my god, this is freaking hilarious. Is it safe to click on? No, it's safe to click on. It's YouTube.
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    Oh my god. Whoa. Oh. Oh my god. It's freaking hilarious. so actually the peanut the bunghole goes into the hole and it actually has a suction cup at the bottom and it grabs the $10 gift card and you actually put it in, it's like a crane game well it is advertised as a crane game Bruce it is but no man they make it look so easy oh man oh what the hell I like how it wobbles before it goes in the hole It's got like nails in it Ow that hurts Oh my goodness Yeah there's like little spikes on Oh The Hulk hurts 10% less Oh It's a classic game of skill It is It's more fun to compete It's more fun to participate No it's not Oh no no Okay Okay. It's enough that I've got to close that.
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    That was freaking hilarious. Do not open this at work, folks. Not safe for work. I wouldn't say no. Yep. This week's best email, and I have to say, oh, my God, it's actually making me tear. Well, wait a minute. The question is, would we or would we not buy that? I'd have a second. I'd buy it for a second if it was $14, not $1,400. Hey, look, the home version is available for 10% left. Exactly, we're set. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Oh, man. Oh, I think on that note, do we have any more? Is there anything else? I'm going back. Hold on. I go back to now. I think that's it. No, we have one more comment on Facebook page.
    93:48
    Oh, that's freaking hilarious. Oh, some guy, some douchebag in Rochester, New York, posted a picture on the Slam Tilt Podcast thing about do not cut third prong and plug.
    94:04
    Round short may, shocking may occur. Yeah, he posted a picture. Basically, it's a warning to, you know, not use a plug without the ground prong because of shock, which Bruce likes to do.
    94:21
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. Raymond, have you ever experienced that, a non-grounded machine? Do you feel the tingle? We used to call that the Adaball special because there was a place where we played called Adaball that you'd touch two games next to each other and you'd get a nice little tingly. Yeah. So Ryan C commented on my post today about the Star Wars because I said in the comments saying, looking good, talking about it this week. Ryan Seed said, if by good you mean shit, then yes, this looks good.
    94:57
    It'll probably play like a dream, but where are the lighted side rails, Bruce? And why is there no black glass on the LE Ron? And there is no black glass. You get all three trans lights. Yeah, they give you all three trans lights. That's the deal. And Ryan also, Ryan K. from Wisconsin said, agreed. So he's agreeing with Ryan Seed from Australia. So they're agreeing with my pick that Star Wars is a game to hate because it sucks.
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    Yeah. It's a cheap piece of shit. I saw it on RGP. I see it on Pinside. It's obviously a terrible game. It's going to be. And then when the LEs sell out, which will be as soon as they're available, they will continue to say how bad a game it is. 800 of them. I guarantee you they'll sell out. Of course they will. The thing is, everyone will want the, we'll see things, I'd want the one with Vader on it. Yes, the premium. Yeah. Everyone's going to want the premium. It's on the pro, it's on the pro also. Yeah, but everyone's going to want Vader. Who doesn't want Vader? It's Darth friggin' Vader, man.
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    Shows. Shows, upcoming shows, once again, don't forget, stop, July 15th. Fantastic, the week before in Massachusetts. That is July 8th, 9th, and 10th, if I remember correctly.
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    So come check that out. I think that is the dates. And then the Buffalo Pinball Open is a Papa Circuit Major, August 18th through the 20th. Don't forget the West Coast. We have our Northwest Pinball and Game Room Show. That is June 2nd weekend. That's this weekend. Yes. That's probably too late. No, it's never too late. They'll come out Thursday and they'll be like, holy crap, I didn't know that. I better go now. So if you see Raymond at the show, go up to him and say, I heard you on the Slam Tilt podcast. We loved you. Nice. That's what I want to hear. I want to hear a lot of good stuff. After the Buffalo Open, which I would go to if I was able to, but it's a little hard for West Coast tickets. that after that week is the North Coast Pinball Championships in Bellevue. Yes. Not really a show, but a tournament. No, it's a tournament. Yeah. A big one, actually. They still have it at the Holiday Inn?
    97:21
    No, it's in Bellevue. That's right. It's right. That's right. Oh, Bowling Alley. Yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah, I figured that out for the name. I'm pretty smart.
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    Oh, the name of the podcast will be The Bunghole. we have to make the name we have to name the show this week oh yeah it's gotta be the bunghole it has to be no better yet just the bunghole crane because it makes it even less like what the bunghole crane what is he talking about yeah I think you got a title there Bruce good job I finally put a title in for the first time in 46 shows I think the second time for the title So don't forget the answer to the question. Win a chance to win a pinball helper. And the question is, one more time, one more time. What is the question? What episode started the Oh My My Swong?
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    What's the number? The number of the episode. You have to do what we, you know, the plugs. So plug www.pinballlifter.com. It's my stuff for lifters, pinball helpers, tilters, mods. All the good fun stuff. Come check us out. Also, Flipper Fidelity. We do this for free. He's one of our longtime. We bought pinball machines. He sells pinball machines. He sells speaker kits, light kits. He even sells Stern pinball machines and Stern accessories. Check him out at FlipperFidelity.com. He put the bass in my dirty Harry. He did. That sounded kind of weird, but yes.
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    Literally, that's why I got it in there. and for the looping mode, which you usually just wrap up anyway because it's too dangerous, but the music's good.
    99:12
    We are the Slam Tilt Podcast. You can find us on Facebook. Just search for Slam Tilt Podcast. We are on YouTube, Slam Tilt Podcast. We are on Twitch someday. Slam Tilt Podcast. We'll do something with that. Maybe tomorrow night we can actually share Tim's podcast tomorrow night. is the stream. The stream, yes. Well, you can reach us for correspondence at salamtillpodcasts at gmail.com. That's also where please send your responses to our two contests there. I'd like to thank Raymond Davidson once again for being on the show. IFPA 14 champion. It's not every day we have a world champion on the show. Well, thank you, Raymond. Raymond, you were great. Thank you, guys. You are always welcome on the show. And the next, I'm going to see you at, we'll both see you at Pembroke, which we're all in Pembroke. I was going to say, you guys going to Pembroke? Got to go to Pembroke. We have never missed a Pembroke. Oh, yeah, I haven't. That is true. I won the first one. Yes, you did. C-Division. But I don't have to say that. I just say I was the first Pembroke winner because C-Division finished first. So technically I was the first winner. There you go. Yes.
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    Don't worry about that other guy. You know that one, right? Yeah, whoever he was. Yeah, that one guy. Thanks, Raymond. Thanks to all our listeners. Thank you, everybody. See you next week. This has been episode 46. The producers, say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Dad.
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    Thank you.