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Episode 106 – So Stupid It’s Good

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Sep 6, 2018
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt covers Deadpool (Pro) launch impressions, tournament news, and technical pinball maintenance.

Summary

Slam Tilt Podcast Episode 106 covers pinball industry news including Steve Ritchie and George Gomez interviews, Deadpool (Pro) impressions from a launch event, Pinball Magazine #5 release, and multiple tournament announcements (Vancouver Flipout, Cleveland Pinball Show). Hosts Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discuss their tournament experiences, game opinions (WWE WrestleMania, Iron Maiden Premium Edition, Star Wars), and detailed technical troubleshooting of Spanish Eyes, TNA, and Firepower machines.

Key Claims

  • Deadpool (Pro) has some of the best artwork ever seen, with excellent cabinet and backbox art

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, based on hands-on experience at Fantasy ramp Premium Edition launch party

  • Star Wars ramp shot concerns: flipper weakness could prevent ball from making it up the ramp

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, discussing Deadpool (Pro) ramp mechanics by comparison to Medieval Madness

  • WWE WrestleMania has a wide flipper gap but is 'so stupid it's actually good' despite initial impression

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, recounting his first impressions vs. actual gameplay experience

  • Iron Maiden Premium Edition requires spelling EDDIE again after finishing The Last Arcade mode to reach Wizard mode

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, from his tournament play at Fantasy ramp Summer Open

  • TNA drop target issue (switch error when locked ball knocks back into target) has same fix as Dialed In trapdoor: coil adjustment tab

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale, based on technical troubleshooting and confirmation from Alberto at Fantasy ramp location

  • Roller Games L-2 sudden death is triggered by 8% mystery chance or 16% if already triggered, plus random gameplay chance

    high confidence · Sorin (programmer), via mail/community research shared on podcast

  • Evan Martin's family passed away, causing Head to Head guys to miss this week's recording

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, citing private message from the hosts

  • George Gomez mentioned Timur as 'the new face of Stern Pinball' during recent interview

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, referencing George Gomez interview on Straight Down the Middle

  • Buffalo Pinball Summer Open will not continue next year due to organizer burnout and player misbehavior criticism

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, citing organizer statement

Notable Quotes

  • “It's so stupid, it's actually good.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~23:45 — Describes WWE WrestleMania's appeal despite questionable design (wide flipper gap); becomes the episode title theme

  • “They're blowing their load on guests.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~9:30 — Critiques media outlets (Straight Down the Middle) hoarding high-profile interview guests like Steve Ritchie and George Gomez

  • “The art is some of the best art I've ever seen.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~45:00 — High praise for Deadpool (Pro) artwork quality during hands-on review

  • “Two and a half hours later.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~1:01:00 — Punchline to Spanish Eyes head bolt/T-nut troubleshooting saga; illustrates difficulty of pinball maintenance

  • “Same exact fix as the trapdoor on Dialed In.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~1:03:15 — Identifies coil adjustment as solution to recurring TNA drop target issue; valuable technical knowledge shared with community

  • “I have yet to play a working Alien to actually make an opinion.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~32:00 — Expresses frustration with Gottlieb game reliability issues preventing fair assessment

  • “I'd rather get the HIV.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~34:15 — Hyperbolic expression of extreme dislike for Safari (Gottlieb game); shows strong negative bias toward 1980s Gottlieb titles

  • “Nobody is [as good as me on Deadpool].”

    Ron Hallett @ ~52:30 — Self-deprecating humor about scoring vs. Bruce's skill level; Bruce had 400M+, Ron achieved 300M

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonGeorge GomezpersonSteve RitchiepersonZach SharpepersonMatt ScottpersonEvan Martinperson

Signals

  • ?

    product_launch: Ron played fresh Deadpool (Pro) unit at Fantasy ramp launch event; provided detailed impressions of art, shots, mechanics, and concerns about ramp shot feasibility with aging flippers

    high · Ron attended Fantasy ramp Premium Edition launch party this weekend (early September), played fresh Deadpool (Pro) arriving day before; noted 'art is some of the best art I've ever seen' and concerns about ramp shot reliability

  • ?

    product_launch: Deadpool (Pro) Premium Edition reveal scheduled for Wednesday, September 5th on Deadflipstream platform

    high · Ron states: 'Premium Edition launch party at Fantasy ramp... Deadpool (Pro) Premium Edition reveal... This Wednesday, September 5th on the Deadflipstream'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Deadpool (Pro) ramp shot feasibility questioned regarding flipper weakness; comparison made to Medieval Madness ramp which has similar issues with ball trickling up the ramp

    high · Ron: 'I'm a little concerned about that [ramp shot]. Just to hit on the fly. What's it going to be like if the flipper starts to get a little weak?' References Medieval Madness where 'when I hit some shots up there... make it all the way... kind of die and then just kind of trickle'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Deadpool (Pro) playfield multiplier target (between flippers) extremely difficult to hit and rarely lights during play; target location and mechanics unclear to players

    high · Ron: 'The playfield multiplier is some kind of target... I never saw any of them light up, ever... I didn't even know there was a target up there'

  • ?

    event_signal: Fantasy ramp Summer Open tournament occurred; Iron Maiden Premium Edition and Star Wars featured; Ron placed 3rd in early rounds, cashed for entry fee back ($20)

Transcript

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0:00
Uh, so you mean you're like just a cop? Yes. So like, uh, if you're a cop, why don't you get rid of this dork so we can get it on? Look, you're lucky you didn't get arrested. Yeah, really. Um, do you know of any real prostitutes around here? Cause um, I still have a stiffy. Get outta here!
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host Ron Hallett here with my co-host Bruce Nightingale. Hello fellow laborers. Yup, it's Labor Day. We're recording on Labor Day. How exciting. We're laboring. Uh, yeah, I worked on a couple games, mow the lawn, that took like two hours, so I was laboring quite a bit. I slept until 11 o'clock. Yeah, because you were really busy. We were supposed to record yesterday, but Bruce was swuuuumped. I was. We didn't get out until 1-1-45 and I got home at 2. Mmm, so the bar is busy. It was this weekend for, well, Friday and Saturday were just okay because of the holiday, everyone wants to get out, I'm not sure if you can see this, but I guess everyone went out last night because it was like, well, it's like a Saturday night because they had most people had tomorrow off or today off Labor Day. So they ran with it and pretty good. This is episode 106. Doctor Strange. My wife's favorite. Probably one of my wife's favorite Marvel movies. Well, she probably just likes what's his face? Yes. Yeah, that's what I figured. I love him as Sherlock. I don't know about Khan. Khan! There's only one Khan and he's not Khan. I'm sorry. He's actually pretty good in it. I will give him a huge... Yeah, but he's not con. I'm sorry. Food impulse power! No, it just doesn't work. But sir, we have Genesis. We can do whatever he wants.
2:03
Food impulse power! Damn you! Yeah! Now that's fucking con. Yes. Where was I? Yes, Doctor Strange. So how was the movie? Very good. That's a very good one. Very good one? All right. Add that one to the list of ones I won't see but should see. Great. So let's get into the news. Let's get right off with the news here. Going to thisweekinpinball.com. Hi Jeff. Let's see. Steve Ritchie interview on Special Win Lit Pinball Podcast. It would actually be tough to get him. I think they did it in person. Which you almost have to do because this hearing is pretty much done. I agree. So you can check that out with Mr. Ritchie. The head-to-head guys got George Gomez on there. They're going to take up all the available guests and then what I'm going to talk about it after that. Yeah, they're blowing their load on guests. Is that what you're saying? That's what I'm saying exactly. And do you know who George Gomez mentioned once again? Timur. The new face of Stern. Yes. So check that out. It was a very good interview. Yes, it was. Especially about like the actual pinball market, the whole business. Unfortunately, there's no head to head this week. Oh, really? First time they've missed it. Was there an announcement? Did I miss something? No, I actually got a problem. I'm going to go to the next one. This week. Oh, really? First time they've missed it. Was there an announcement? Did I miss something? No, I actually got a private message from the boys. They had posted saying Martin wanted somebody in Martin's family passed away. So I just want to give my condolences to Martin's family and Martin. I hope everything on your family goes okay. And we'll hope to see you back next week. Same here. Yes. So they'll be back. They'll be back. Just like Arnold. Yeah. Deadpool Deadpool updates. Yes, there was a teaser showing the high definition footage of Deadpool breaking the fourth wall. Yes. And do you know what the other games are to the right on that screen on Deadpool? The right is hard because it barely goes over there unless you hit the domino shot. Yeah, there's like two more games over there. Yes, there is. You gotta know what they are. I think we need to bring Timmy on just so he can explain it to us. You know, Tim, we really need to I'm sure Zach won't have any issues with that. But you could just talk about Deadpool and then leave if you want. Yep. We had a request actually this week for a couple of guests. We did. We have requests for... Who do we have a request for? Scott and Zach together. Scott and Zach, yes. If our listeners, if you want a very tech-based episode, you can see if we can get them on because they can go on for hours on tech. If you have any things you'd like them to talk about because they're both I mean Zach has built what two homebrew games and he's he has his pharaoh he's trying to modify to make it a better game and Scott has modified so many freaking games that he has that he has so if you have any subjects you'd like him to talk about just just write in we'll see if we can get them on pinball magazine number five is coming actually it's here it's here it's released but it's not here here 360 pages The Gather I'm not that, not Papa. Yeah, well guess what? It's not just a sternament, I hate to say. I don't know if he met sternament, but he didn't like the older games in there it seemed. Very interesting. And he has an Indy 500 exploit in his back pocket. Yeah, great. What was it? Like you can get turbo, turbo whatever, turbo whatever and multiball going in and every jackpot is a super. Great. Yeah. So expect to see never Indy 500. d, kelton ever putting it i dont need five hundred uh... that's that's nothing for me hahaa whatever we disagree more and more games i noticed what's a matter with you like these all crappy middle age williams once middle age williams once what does that mean they're not the latest liam's once which were from like ninety six ninety seven up there's a middle age was like ninety three and ninety four ninety three Oh, it's like 95, 96. So, Dirty Harry, Indy 500, Kongo, awesome games like that. Turd, turd, turd, turd. The only one that was good was AFM. Kongo was a turd? Yeah, I know how to play it. It plays okay but... It's not...wait a sec. If I had a choice between Kongo and Whitewater, I'd pick Whitewater in a second. If it was a choice between Kongo and Party Zone, of course I'm gonna pick Kongo. Yes. Okay listeners, what do you pick? Congo or whitewater? We're going to be asking you listeners for a lot because we have no mail this week. What do you pick, Ron? Between Congo and whitewater? Yes. I pick whitewater. Of course. Yeah, but I've always been a whitewater mark. What game have I tried to get away from you that you said you're never selling? Yeah, I know, but it's going in storage. It's going into the vault. So if you want to borrow it, you're more than welcome. You hear that dad if you're listening you need to get those the door frames, but you know the width increase So we can get that white water in your house. It's all up to you, man Well, you put in your living room for a while. Well, he likes it even more than I do I know but he comes over your house all the time. So See win win win win win win. Do you know there's new code for Batman 66? Yes. Not what is it? We got point nine four. We're getting there. Yes with more King Tut I think they talked about a couple other little things they said so we're getting there go Lyman go Lyman if we have a Dutch pinball up yeah let's move on we know I know what it is it's called the pyramid money grab scheme that's what I call Dutch pinball from now on you there so we have Vancouver flip out oh you're not going to talk about that what talk about what Dutch no I'm not talking about that We have the Vancouver Flipout which Raymond mentioned last week. That's going to be happening I believe this weekend, this upcoming weekend. They will have 100 pinball machines, vendors, speakers, tournaments, oh my! Plus there's another tournament this weekend. There's another tournament this weekend? Yep. This upcoming weekend? Yep, yep. And what is that Bruce? The Cleveland Pinball Show. Ah! Cleveland rocks, Cleveland rocks. Dr. Markarian November Collcules municip 이게야�…"WHAE가후마�NHHイ 가서 달라이옧?"어 Geschère Lady, The Buffalo Pinball Summer Open. They're not going to do it next year. Yup. They said they're burnt out from it. Understandable. It's a hard thing to do. And they didn't like all the criticism. Yeah, I guess they were misbehaving players and things at the yacht club. You know, families around. F-bombs may not be, you know... Well, if you're actually making fun of the people trying to fix the machines, hello people, you're dumbasses. Yeah, yeah, you shouldn't say that. Hey Daddy, Dad, Daddy, Well it seems to me. Well it seems to me, guys that I am broken for a minute. Oh I am same. Hey daddy, had a good night of recess at college. That's all I'm going to say about that. That's all I'm going to say about that, boy. You know, try to give them a good thing and shit all over it. Know what I mean? What the hell? But it's a sad thing, you know, but it is a lot of work. Yeah, I was in it for two years of it, and it took a lot out of me, too. And I didn't do as nearly as much as those guys did. And I did before with the Rochester Game Room Show. Yes, the Rochester Game Room Show. We did a tournament. We did the show set up. We did everything. So, I think that's it for the news. You sure? I'm sure. Did you look at this week in pinball? Yeah, I'm looking at this week in pinball. Is there something else? I don't know. I'm not checking. Art photos, backtrack, oh, wrong one. Well, it's all the news that's, I mean, unless you want to talk about Thunderbird's gameplay. Oh, God. Terrible game. Hey there bros, me born here, temos que ir al hv ii, idk why i done this Err, AND We will start of in the hour Yo camper me seriously da음 a little bit izzard Thank You Monday, i'm raiden Bob antonio comin here a little bit so today we will make a hunt we are going to taste widow though the immediate both We are not right I think Star Wars was turd. Don't let hairs act sick. He knows it already. Yeah, but you might not come on now if you keep dispersing. Ghostbusters was a fucking turd when I saw it. Really? Even as good as it looked you thought it was a turd? Yep. Because I saw the stupid flipper gap. That wasn't my question though. Like a game you thought was a turd and turned out that you liked it. Oh, turned out that you liked it? You're just so good like you just can tell immediately. You don't even have to play it. Let's go to the list. Let's go backwards. Let's go backwards? Let's go backwards. I'm going backwards a lot here. Well, actually, I know the game. Oh, okay. WWE. So, WWE, WrestleMania. I thought it looked like a turd and I started playing it and it does have the wide flipper gap but actually, it's so stupid, it's actually good. It's so stupid, it's actually good. All right. Because I was, you know, we were all wrestling fans when we were younger, so. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, oh, I know you are. Touche. Hey, how about you? Chalk on up for WWE? Oh, what I thought was a turd? Yeah. Um... Let me guess, NBA for you? No, no. I just, I don't look at a game and just say, Oh, that looks like shit. I have to play it first. So I don't judge as quickly as you do, so I'd have to change the question for me, more like, a game that I played, like, the first time and hated it and then ended up liking it. And that's easy. Iron Man. Oh really? Wow. First time I played that was at the Allentown tournament. Mm-hmm. Hated it. It kicked your ass. Hated it, yeah. And fucking hated that game. And now I don't. And I'm the guy like at California extreme would go in that one row of like all those mid-80 Gottliebs that no one would play. Oh gosh. It's like the only section that like you could get on a game and I'd play every one of them. And there were some of those I actually liked. I have a more open mind than you. I like turds. Can you help me? Is Alien Star a turd No It great Okay but Alien is I never played a working alien I have yet to play a working Alien to actually make an opinion I played Dark Aliens I couldn see the ball and it would just reset during the game or lock up I never actually I think I only gotten through one complete game of Alien So I cannot make an opinion. I literally cannot play one that works. How do you play in Pinball? A super fun game. A really good game. I've never played in Pinball. I've never played in Pinball before. A really good game. I've never played in Pinball before. Or like, um, Surf at Safari? Another good Gottlieb game that you probably hate? Oh my God. Oh, that's so fun! I'd rather get the Hiv. All right, all right, let's move on from Gottlieb. You just have unnatural Gottlieb hate. Nope. I played a Gottlieb this weekend and I was very happy. What was that? Lights, camera, action! Oh Jesus Christ. It was either gonna be that or like Countdown or Joker poker. There's like three of them, or four of them that you don't shit on. No, there's about seven or eight. I played Alien Star this weekend. And? Had a good time with that, of course. Who doesn't? I know. So you played Deadpool this weekend. And so did you. So did I. But different ones. Who wants to go first? Very colorful. Artwork is honestly kick ass. And? Well, I liked it. I thought it was very colorful. I thought the animation, you know, you keep Hello, everyone. Now, back to the main focus for today. I'mir Vasilyevic, and I'd like to submit a message to everyone who is listening to, KimЕ and uh Brad was nice enough to let us come and put some high scores on this game Justin Pektor,

  • Deadpool (Pro) playfield multiplier target between flippers is difficult to hit and rarely lit during gameplay

    high confidence · Ron Hallett, from hands-on experience at launch event

    • Jeremy Packer
    person
    Tim Henryperson
    Sorinperson
    Timurperson
    Kyle Weathersperson
    Leland Richieperson
    Albertoperson
    Straight Down the Middlemedia
    This Week in Pinballmedia
    Deadflipstreammedia
    Deadpool (Pro)game
    Star Warsgame
    Iron Maiden Premium Editiongame
    WWE WrestleManiagame
    TNA (Total Nuclear Annihilation)game
    Fantasy rampvenue
    Pinball Magazineproduct
    Vancouver Flipoutevent
    Cleveland Pinball Showevent

    high · Ron: 'they had their match play... Summer Open... I play, I started kind of shitty in the actual match play and had a good playoff game to get into the top eight'

  • ?

    event_signal: Vancouver Flipout and Cleveland Pinball Show both occurring the same weekend; Vancouver features 100+ machines with vendors, speakers, and tournaments

    high · Bruce: 'Vancouver Flipout... this upcoming weekend... 100 pinball machines, vendors, speakers, tournaments' and 'Cleveland Pinball Show' happening 'this upcoming weekend'

  • ?

    product_concern: TNA experiencing recurring drop target/switch error where locked ball knockback prevents target from fully dropping; affects tournament play; identified solution via coil adjustment tab (same as Dialed In trapdoor)

    high · Bruce: 'TNA, one of the main issues we had... it kept giving this switch error... When the drop target, it would knock the ball back into the third target... The second target would not go down... I was able to fix it... Same exact fix as the trapdoor on Dialed In'

  • ?

    content_signal: Hosts critique media outlets (specifically Straight Down the Middle) for 'hoarding' high-profile guests (Steve Ritchie, George Gomez) and reducing availability for other podcasts

    high · Ron: 'They're blowing their load on guests... they're going to take up all the available guests and then what I'm going to talk about after that'

  • ?

    industry_signal: George Gomez highlighted Timur as 'the new face of Stern Pinball' during recent interview, suggesting emerging leadership or marketing role at Stern

    medium · Ron: 'Do you know who George Gomez mentioned once again? Timur. The new face of Stern Pinball'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Buffalo Pinball Summer Open will not continue next year; organizers experienced burnout and faced player misbehavior criticism (profanity, mockery of technicians at venue with families)

    high · Bruce: 'Buffalo Pinball Summer Open... They're not going to do it next year... they were burnt out from it... they didn't like all the criticism... players... misbehaving... F-bombs may not be... families around'

  • ?

    code_update: Batman 66 updated to code version 0.94 with additional game features and content; Lyman referenced as designer/maintainer

    high · Ron: 'Do you know there's new code for Batman 66?... We're at point nine four... with more games... they talked about a couple other little things'

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Spanish Eyes cabinet T-nut replaced with non-standard aftermarket part that strips easily; required 2.5-hour troubleshooting session including creative MacGyvering with Phillips screw and extensions to access and remove bolt

    high · Bruce: 'The T nut wasn't stripped. It just was not catching on the wood... someone some idiot put in there... I took my phone I take a picture of this t-nut... get a Phillips head screw. I put an extension on it... I get it in there, I get it to start turning... Two and a half hours later... That T-nut was thrown out immediately'

    • 15:36
    Of course you did Khea I uff'd out there with four, twenty-five But uh, Zack got Disco Multiball Which was cool Isaac Breit, I got the super skillshoy every time It seemed like Zack was making fun of me I missed it maybe like three times You realize that super skillshot is basically made for you Kyler Rbecause.... An on the fly shot I know they designed it for Bruce. Thanks, George. I'm sure it was Timmy put that rule in for that to be super scotia because he was thinking of you. Of course. Thanks, Tim.
    16:10
    That's it. Well, I want to hear your opinions. What do you think of? Well, mine's more of a you know, because this weekend was the see if I get a premium launch party at the world famous rock fantasy. Esteemed BTS TV And they got several games there. Now they have Iron Man, Star Wars, Iron Maiden Pro, Iron Maiden Premium, Deadpool, and Aztec. How'd that get in there? All those games are in there, and then all the other games are in Rock Fantasy. So they had their match play. They had two different, multiple events as they usually do. They had the match play. It was actually called the Summer Open. This was their Summer Open. Weather cooperated as it was beautiful. So we're all inside playing pinball, of course. But of course, tapped actually is kind of, it's like a garage door thing that opens and then you walk in from the outside. I play, I started kind of shitty in the actual match play and then got better and end up, I won in a playoff game to get into the top eight. Playoffs? Playoffs! And then the part I didn't like honestly was, and I didn't realize this was gonna happen, suffice to say opportunities have appeared in the making these past years but they are not loaded into the 오디션 for its success I'm a fan of the game, but I wasn't feeling that. But, so the first game we play, and I'll get to Deadpool don't worry, the first game we play is Star Wars. Yeah, I'm 8th so I'm not picking anything obviously, so I get to play Star Wars. So I immediately message Zach. Yeah, which hotdog am I supposed to pick, which character am I supposed to pick. So I get that information, and he reminds me don't forget to move your multipliers, yes I got ya. Let's just say I could not really execute. It was more on my failure to execute than anything having to do with the game. Just missed a lot and drain. At least the third ball I got the video mode started because I picked picked Hoth and Han. So I picked the video mode and for once I actually didn't hit a lot of asteroids. But I scored like shit. I guess it's because I didn't have a multiplier on the shot because it was so early in the ball. Oh well. Oh well. So the second game, okay, the second game was Iron Maiden Pro. My first ball, I drained pretty much immediately. My second ball, I got like 300 million. Mmm. Mmm. The third ball, I had to make it, I counted at least seven or eight ridiculous saves and managed to get through the last mode. So what is it? 10 minutes to midnight is the wizard mode, whatever it's called. Two minutes. Two minutes to midnight. Yeah, I'm really into Maidens. Timberland for the and I but on Maiden I don't know if this is the typical setting but you finish the last mode you still have to spell Eddie again yes you do to get to the wizard mode and that's only ramps yup the hardest thing to hit and let's just say I hit some of them but eventually I drained out I ended up with like 352 million which you wouldn't think was that bad I was third I finished third This week's topic is the most popular topic in the game, getting 352 million. That hurt. And then the last game was on Iron Man. And Iron Man was pretty much Iron Man. I finished third on that and was eliminated. So just that and the money? No, actually they paid eight. Oh wow. So I got 20 bucks. I got my entry fee back. Yay. So I was cashing. And Alberto didn't win. Oh my god, what the hell? I'm a gentleman who I should remember his name because I've seen him. He's placed at the sanctum all the time and I apologize. I don't remember your name and I don't, not sure if I can look it up. Hold on, we'll do an edit here. All right, I looked it up. I could not find it. Sorry. They have pictures there, but I couldn't find any that had everyone tagged and where they finished. I'm too lazy to keep looking. But congratulations to you, sir. And then for the, they had the premium Iron Maiden section. Alexander Corkちょっと And then we had Deadpool, which arrived like the day before. So it wasn't, there was going to be an actual Deadpool launch party on, I believe September 15th. So this was like an early preview edition I guess. So I played it. Let's see my impressions. The art is some of the best art I've ever seen. The art is incredible. Even the cabinet art and the backbox art, just awesome. I like the shots. I thought the shots were good. I'm still kind of worried about that ramp shot. Just got hit on the fly. What's it going to be like if the flipper starts to get a little weak? Is it going to be able to make it up? Mm-hmm. Because we had it, you know, this thing is fresh out of the box and when I hit some shots up there that they made it up to the top. It was hard to get around that bend. Yeah, we'll get up the bend and we'll get up the ramp and kind of die and then just kind of trickle and then make it all the way. So I'm a little concerned about that. Other than that though, I like the whole battle. Like, it's like you're playing Street Fighter. Oh yeah, definitely. Everyone's got energy meters and you hit shots and then there's like the finish him. Yep, and you gotta bring them up, you know, you gotta bring people in to make it easier for, you know, like a trade out or a swap. Yeah, so if you hit shots, hit certain people's shots, you can get their character so they help you. It's like Wolverine will help you out. I'm going to be a little bit more specific about the pinball princess. I actually watched the Tim tutorial from Stern and wrote down notes so she could tell me what to do. Well, in herself, obviously. I was like, how does Locke get lit? You know, things like, you know, simple things like that. Oh, you hit these dead targets. Oh, okay. I was wondering how that or how do you like mystery? Like mysteries would randomly be lit. So I think that was what pool? You get pool to get a mystery or you spell the hit dead pool. Gar rusty AbrahamUD, and Liland, my strictydd Richie, who works there. Exactly. They literally could just put him in the booth. Okay, do it. Finish him. Fatality. Trying to think of anything else with Deadpool. I mean, I had some big games on it. I mean, I didn't have 400 million big, but I'm not Bruce. Nobody is. I think I had 300 million something. You beat Tec then. So did JT. He had like 300 million something. So I liked it. I liked it too. Yeah. Would you buy one? Not right now, no. Needs to be done. Oh, I want to see the premium. Yeah. Which will be streamed. This Wednesday, September 5th on the Deadflipstream. I'm sorry, I can't watch it. Why can't you watch it? It's Mrs. Nightingale's birthday. Ah, yes, you definitely can't watch it. Yeah. Maybe you can sneak it on your phone while you're... no? Eeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. One of the things you don't do, like the two days I won't be able to do it is the 5th and the 8th. What's the 8th? It's the actual party. Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community The playfield multiplier is some kind of target. Yeah, I didn't understand that. It's supposed to deflect up into the ramp, I thought. Yeah. And that's how you get it. It seems too hard. Yeah, I agree. Because I was looking at the playfield lights. They're right in between the flippers, the playfield multiplier. I never saw any of them light up, ever. Yeah. Supposedly, I was told someone got 2x. But I didn't even know there was a target up there. So that was my Deadpool impressions. So we got both of our Deadpool impressions. So we seem to like it. Yep. Totally agree. And we'll have to see what happens. I really want to see what the premium looks like. Yes. Totally agree with that one too.
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    All right. So check that off. That's our Deadpool impressions. That's news. Piece of news. News of the week. Week. Week. Week. One of our listeners was upset because we didn't say mail ball bag last week. Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community I tested it and it does work now. If you search for us in Google Podcast, it comes up and it has all the episodes because they're looking at our actual site now. Yay! Wow, you sound really excited, Bruce. I get it on my Apple device, so I'm good. Yeah, but it's Google, so it's good that it works being that it's Google. But you said before Google copies off Apple's software, so. Well, I said a lot of the pod catchers that you get if you have a droid they actually use the iTunes list.
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    What else do we have here? Shout out to our friend Sorin, programmer extraordinaire, I mentioned last week about how we just have no idea what starts sudden death. Now we do. Now we do and it pretty much is random. So I guess this could be our one our one mail item. I going to read this out So for those of you who wonder what the hell causes sudden death to start in roller games including me here we go And this is with a full disclaimer Sounds like he pretty sure this is true All right here we go On roller games L2 which I believe is the latest and greatest sudden death is started by either roller motion mystery or at random during gameplay Now, as far as the roller motion mystery, you have an 8% chance of getting it if sudden death has not been played yet. This player, this game. You have a 16% chance if sudden death has been played, this player, this game. Really, so you have more of a chance of getting it again if you've already got it, the way I'm reading it. Okay. Then the other part, the one that happens all the time or just seems to randomly start, random during gameplay. The game might decide that sudden death is not available at all this ball in play. On a three-ball game, there is a 50% chance of no sudden death on ball one, no ruling out on balls two and three. If sudden death is qualified this ball in play, the game decides per random chance on starting This week's viewer recommendation for the Tim Gunn 보시, Pinball unpredictivity, pinball activity includes being in the status report and ball search of course. I have not found any evidence that game statistics have an influence.
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    And that's with a full disclaimer. Okay. So pretty much really is random. Yes. Someone needs to fix that. That's a big issue in tournaments. I mean you have the ball stealing, you have the lock stealing, but the sudden death thing is just ridiculous. And there is a tournament setting on roller games. I have it set to tournament settings, and it has no effect on sudden death it seems. That's a Roller Games mystery. Da na na na da na, da da da da da. Alright, wanna get to tech stuff? Yeah, we can go to tech stuff. Alright, well, I forgot to tell the story last week. My spanish eyes, I had it on the first floor, if you recall, for Stomp, So after the tournament, I think it was on Sunday.
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    I decide like, okay, we're going to break this thing down and bring it downstairs. I go to take the head off and I'm turning one of the head bolts and it just keeps turning and turning and turning and turning. So the T nut stripped or pulled out of the wood. Yeah, the T nut wasn't stripped. It just was not catching on the wood. So itself was just turning and turning and turning. Or the tabs broken. Yeah. Yeah, that pretty much. Yeah. This was a weird looking T nut. I showed it to Zach and he thought it was weird looking so I don't think it was original. Something some idiot put in there because I had to replace one of the t-nuts in there. And I had like a new one that's got like like the blades that really jut in there's no way this thing is slipping. This one didn't look anything like that. So I'm turning it I'm turning it I can't get you know it just won't catch so what am I going to do Bruce? What are you going to do? If you're a professional pinball enthusiast, you're gonna open up the whole body, raise the playfield all the way up, get a pair of channel locks or pliers, go underneath, grab that T-nut, and try to hold it while trying to loosen that bolt. Alright, that's one option. Really? Well, I did pretty much, I took the playfield out of the game, but even with the playfield out of the game, it was impossible to see what you were doing. Okay. It was nearly impossible to maneuver like something like channellock in there and try to grab it. Hey there Weie here with Randy Petty he just asphalt嬡stalk牧 suicide. What we did was uh uhhh we just about filled. Ride saviour rien..? Yeah , we got some people sitting on your dog o.k.. The dogs... certo... That's just how we roll! Kristoff ii stopれ What the fしい you listening dude?!? I was almost soaked! It was really really cold. We buying it right now, it's an all own hack? It.... you can already put in yours. We're just going I got it out with vacant. Where on earth did you find it? That's the earth! So what I did and I'm looking it up online and it's like yeah you'll have to cut the bolt like no no I would have to take the other bolts out somehow slide the head all the way over so I might have access and someone would have to hold the head while I do this so I don't have that option so I take my phone I take a picture of this t-nut from underneath because I can't see anything and the t-nut has you can see where the nubs are but it also had two holes two holes I go all the way through I'm thinking, hmm, if I could get a screw through one of those holes, so then it won't spin, and I might be able to get this thing out. Oh. Hmm. Now again, I can't see anything. I have no access. Even with the playfield out, I have no way to stick my head in there. So I get a, I had to get a, had to be a Phillips head screw. I put a small head on it so I could get it into the hole because the bolt's still going through there. So that's kind of in the way. I'm reachingin through the head, I'm like behind the game, put my hands in, trying to feel for this hole, get the screw into the hole, stop, stop, yeah, yeah. So I get in there and I get it to start turning where it actually catches. So I screw it in, I get it in, try to turn the head bolt and it still wants to slip a little bit but it finally, boom, it comes loose. I get it out. Two and a half hours later. And that T-nut was thrown out immediately. Really? You didn't want to use it again? No, I would have used it again. No. So now I have three head bolts in there. Next time I'm at the hardware store, I'll get a real T-nut and put that in there so I can put the four head bolts in again. That was a pain in the ass. I believe I have got the Metallica in the correct settings now that were supposedly wrong. Did you screw them up? Thank you. You're so nice, Bruce. I just tell it like it is. And TNA. Ugh. No, come on, Bruce. So, TNA, one of the main issues we had after everything else was fixed was it kept giving this switch to error. Switch to and drop target error. And it's hard to explain this, but what would happen is if you lock one ball, it's behind the second drop target. When the game would end, or maybe even during multi-ball, it would try to, it would drop the target. When it dropped the target, it would knock the ball back into the third target and it would come back and still rest against the second target. The second target would not go down. Okay. And that's what was happening during Stomp. It kept happening when I was playing it a few days ago. And when I was at Rock Fantasy, they have a TNA there on loan. Okay. I'm standing next to Alberto when it happens and alberto's like yeah we have one in new york city does the same thing like okay so this is a common issue so i go to pin side i can't find anything on it i must not have looked hard enough this has to be out there but whatever i started screwing with it um tonight like actually an hour or two before we went on and i was able to fix it and you know what the fix was throwing it in the dumpster Homeless Mr. TNA's awesome. Here was the fix. Same exact fix as the trapdoor on dialed in. Oh God. Mm-hmm. Now they're using Williams Mac, so it wasn't a case of them not using the adjustment tab. It was actually being used. Mm-hmm. It just wasn't down enough. So I just adjusted it so that the small coil that does the release, so the drop target can go down, has a lot less, you know, a lot less travel that it has to do, I'm going to show you how to do that. Okay. And that's literally all I did. I did it so it would, you know, when it pops up, it just catches and then this thing, the smaller coil knocks it down. Flawless. I did like 10 times in a row, just like putting the ball there out over and over and over again. Works fine now. So that's literally all it is. So T&A owners, if you're having a similar issue, just watch on our Slam Tilt channel, Slam Tilt YouTube channel. You can see my fix for the trap door for dialed in. It's literally the same thing. You're adjusting the same tab. I think that's all I do. Oh, I put the new firepower code in. Scott already sent it to me. And? We need more work. Good boy. That's all I'll say. I'm actually probably going to do a stream, not an actual Twitch stream, but I'll use the streaming equipment and send the stuff to him so he can look at it. Because it's doing kind of the same stuff it was before, but also doing some different things. Mm-hmm. So, want him to look at that. I'm trying to think, did I do anything else tech-wise? I think that's it. Anything for you? Uh, just working stuff on the bar, just, uh, broken wires off switches and coils and targets. I had, uh, one of my optos on my Star Trek LE go out of alignment and kept on giving free points. It loosened up a little bit and just was a little off a line, and so You hit the flipper, just thought it was activating the opto and kept on getting points. Pretty tightened that up. I said I'm going to, excuse me, I'm going to sometime this week take out white water and bring in nine ball for everyone to enjoy. Enjoy Steve Kirk goodness. Yes, of course. You should get Meteor in there. We'll have three out of four. Three of the four there. Oh, Gammatron. No. Oh. Fail. What? Oh, you mean LionMan? LionMan! That doesn't count. He got fired. He still was in it. Yeah, but he got fired halfway through that. I'm sure he would argue, I wanted to do this and they changed my playfield design or something. LionMan! How's my parts doing? Your parts? What are your parts? The ones I haven't taken off yet? What did they give you two weeks ago? Yeah, what did they give you two weeks ago? You gave me a cheetah playfield that I haven't touched. Okay, good. Keep up the good work. I'm gonna need stuff off it eventually too. That's why. Okay, so I have a deadline. Of course you do. Okay, what's my deadline? What do I get off it? I get the targets?
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    I get a ring. I Get yeah, I get targets for my cheetah and then the other stuff is all for Quicksilver. Yes. How about the other targets? The other drop targets. Can I grab those? Not all of them, no. Ah, damn it. Come on. I'm running low on my supply. Yeah, so am I. I'm down to two. Subtitles by the Amara.org community I'm going to the police tomorrow. You're fucked pal. Book him Dano. It's alright. I have a stumper for you. And I have one for you. I actually have two. Oh you have two. Alright. I have two. I love the stumper. So last week I did a stumper which was what system 11 game, what Williams system 11 game had the most drop targets. I have two. This week, what WPC game, Williams, Williams WPC game has the most drop targets. So that's your Bally midways of the 90s. So by that era, they really weren't using a lot of drop targets. So kind of, it gets a little harder. Yeah. Well, Indiana Jones has three. There isn't many games with... I can tell you, it's way more than three. I don't know. I have to look at the list. Just the list. No. I have to look at the game. Ugh. How many WPCs are there? That has to be at least 20. The 22. Okay. Okay. Do you know all 22 WPC machines? No. I thought so. I'm going to look at the list. Judge Dredd? There's five. Judge Dredd. There's games with more than five. This is cheating. No, it's not. I just don't know all the games. And then when I see them, that's when I... I'm not looking at the playfields. All I'm just looking at is the game lists. Okay. Flintstones? Flintstones has seven drop targets. Yeah. As far as we can tell, that is the winner. See? I had to think about it. But I had to go by the list. You know, I'm not going to go through every picture that fast. You know that. Shadow has six. Okay. It's got the four on the battlefield. Yep. It's got the one to get to the battlefield and then it's got the big one, but I mean still a drop target even though it's custom. Very good. Flintstones, it's got a four bank and a three bank. Okay. I got two for you All right You get a twofer How many Stern electronic pinball machines did they make EM and solid state and name them So games that they made an EM and a solid state version of Yes. Alright. Um, well, pinball, I think there was, what was it called, Rawhide? It was like Rawhide and Stampede. Those were the EMs. Oh, they were just EMs? Oh. They were just EMs only. Um... Wait a minute. What do they do other than pinball? It'd have to be whatever was before pinball. They did more than pinball in two different versions? Nope, you're right. Oh. Just did- Oh! I see I screwed you up a little bit. Damn it! Okay. How many valleys did they do? What, both versions? Yes. Oh, God. A lot? No. Actually, you'd be surprised. I would be surprised? Uh, Knight Rider... Okay, that's one. I'm not a hurry to trying to think here. So I can think once from other manufacturers for whatever reason, like hot tip. That's what it was. Oh, blackjack three was freedom in there at all for. Okay. Well, how many of them are there? I think one more. Oh, now I really got to think here. One more. Damn it. I think we're going to have four of them. Okay. There's got to be a well-known one, too. It is. It's probably one that's a lot more solid-states than EM's. Yes. That was too late. Bobby Orspout, no, no. It'd have to be like 77, 78, somewhere around there. Evil Knievel? You got it. Oh, really? Yep. That was later, though. So Evil Knievel? 77, actually. Alright. Actually it was early 77. Actually Mata Hari was later. So what you're saying is I'm the man. You got it. Actually neither of us were stumped. Yep. Now more trick question to you. Another trick, okay. Bally. Which one made more EM's than the solid state? Which game? The ones you just mentioned? The ones you just mentioned. Let's see. Mata Hari, no. More solid state. Was it Blackjack? Band Linux trick draw ACKY Bei Des scissors,
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    ANC formas, Derek over to The V I had them prepared, though, if you noticed. Yes, you did. When did you prepare them? Like, two minutes before we went on? No. About three. All right, what else do we have? We have no mail. No mail. My ball bag was empty this weekend. Ball bag was empty. So what are we asking for our listeners? We need a new genre. We need a new genre of movies. Movies. We're running out of Marvel movies. Yes. We have, but we just forget, so we need a new group. Yep. And we have new listeners, so. Yeah, that's right, we have new listeners I don't know. Yes, so we need a movie genre that we have not used. We've used Godzilla, we've used Star Trek, we've used Star Wars, we've used Marvel. What else have we used? We did Mel Brooks. What else have we done? WS Dallas, WSG. All rights reserved. Which are input like what kind of text subjects you'd like to hear discuss. Johnny five me more input. Yeah Johnny Short circuit very good, very good reference there yet. Nobody's bought in the Golden Cure from last week. All the super rare prototype. Yep no one bought the the napkin dispenser but somebody did buy the playboy $850 the one I'm going to go with the one that you thought the backglass was or the thing was missing displays because the guy was holding the backglass in a weird position. Yep. Fail. So $800 Playboy, alright. I only have one game, but we can go into it or not. You mean four? Would you or would you not buy that? I have two actually. We have two? Alright, alright. I'm ready. Go for it. Number one, two, three, zero, one, three, eight, one, six, two, one, nine.
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    Um, okay. Pinball machine, Black Knight. It looks like the little BlackKnight home model that you used to have.
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    Yep. The little toy. And there's another. BlackKnight2000 handheldheld game. Oh, right now, so there's two games. Yeah, baby. It's a Black Knight heldhand handheldgame. Oh yeah it is, BlackKnight2000. By um, what the hell does that say? By Playtime. Yes. What a great name for the company. Playtime. Both were Playtimes. Ah, okay. They must have got the license from William Sheep. And the description is, three BlackKnight2000 rare pieces. Yes, because there's one actual pinball plastic for the upper ramp. So, wait a minute. So, there's a plastic from an actual Black Knight2000, a toy BlackKnight2000, and then a handheld BlackKnight2000. And how much would you pay for all this? $29.95. They want $650. Or best offer. Or best offer, okay. $29.95. $20. See? Well, the plastic, $30. Okay. Wow, you're in a giving mood. Yeah. So, would we buy that? No. Oh, by the way, the glass is on in the picture. Oh, God. I don't think you can take it off, though. No. So, Ron's PIP cannot be changed on that one. Yeah, and all the pictures are blurry as fuck. Yes, they are. It's like, come on, man. All right, last one. 332-719-682-269. Ah, the penis game. Penis game. Penis game. Penis game. Penis game. The phallic game. Penis game. 1981 Gottlieb, force 2 pinball machine. Useless trivia, this is the machine that's actually used in Rocky 3 when, was it, Paulie throws his booze through the back glass of Rocky. The game wasn't actually done yet, so it's just a force 2. With a Rocky back glass. With a Rocky back glass which had no holes, had like no displays. So if you watch the movie, notice how like you can't see the displays until he throws the booze through the back glass. Yikes. And take note of the other great games that are there like Flash Gordon is there I believe, Paragon. Force. But we have Force 2 and what's the description here? This is a 1981 Force 2 pinball machine. It is a player's game. That seems to be a very popular term. Mmhmm. I have replaced the legs, leg levelers, leg bolts, pop bumper caps, rubbers, bulbs, balls, etc. The big ticket item I have put into this game is the Pascal all-in-one board to replace the unreliable System 80 hardware. This board alone costs $600. Is that true, Bruce? Yeah, they're pretty pricey in Canada. Game can be picked up in Carlisle, Ontario, Canada. So they want $1,000 for it. For a penis. For a penis game. Let's see, did they take the glass off? They did. They took the glass off right there. I'm going to look further. Playfield looks good. It does. They were never used. They just broke down way too fast. So that's why the playfields didn't wear. The back glass looks good. Actually, no. The back glass has tons of touch-ups on it. It's not bad. I've seen a lot worse. Did you see the touch-ups though? Oh, no. I see him. Honestly, a lot of these back glasses cracked or peeled. So this one's actually not that bad. So would you buy this for $1,000, Bruce? No, I would not, but it's actually not a bad game. I like this game. Nope, it's in good shape. I like penis games. So if you're really into Force 2 and penis and phallic games, this is for you. Penis. I just like saying penis. Yes, you do. Penis. Yeah. You got anything else, Bruce? I got nothing else, but I've spent my penis. What a wonderfully appropriate thing to say. Any upcoming shows? Anything upcoming this week? We talked about the Cleveland show coming up this week. And we have to talk about the newest tournament coming up at the Silver Ball Saloon. And what's that, Bruce? Pin golf. Everyone loves pin golf, Bruce. Yep. We're going to have 18 holes of pin golf. And that is going to be on? October 6th. I know because that's the same day of Howard's tournament. The Catskill Classic. Yeah, I know what you're picking. Well, it's the one that's like a buck forty from me or the one that's three and a half hours from me. Which do you think I'm picking? Me. And I kind of already committed to the other one. Fail. Like a month ago. I'm sorry. No, you're coming to me. Because you need to get that white water. I need to get that white water. Mm-hmm. Um, sure. See? I knew that would work. Really Deprecious thing China think extra I 80 dollars before twenty thirty twenty-five after October secret Silver Ball Saloon located where, Bruce? In East Rochester, New York, 135, West Commercial Street. Be there or be square. Probably be snowing by then. In Rochester, yes. Yes. The rest of New York probably not, but definitely Rochester. But again, listeners, we need your help. We need ideas. We need genres. For genres, for the movies. We also need, if you have questions, tech questions, you would like to have Zach and or Scott Please send them in or topics you'd like discussed. We're looking to get like a tech-based episode because we can't be all tournaments all the time, Bruce. All Tournament all the time. So I think we're done. Thanks everyone. This has been episode 106, Dr. Strange. Say hi to Fun With Bonus. Hi Steve. Hi Zack. Hi Pinball Princess. Yes. Riptide, I'm sure it'll be out sometime this year. The Pinball Star Amusements, Joe Newhart, where I got my TNA from, my total nuclear annihilation. Use him for all your non-stern needs. We have Mike Pupo of Flipper Fidelity. Use him to improve the sound of your pinball machines. He is also a stern distributor. Say goodbye Bruce. Goodbye Tim John Petro.
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