The PoorMan's Pinball Podcast Welcome everybody, my name is Ian. And my name is Drew. This is The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. What was that name again? The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Why do we call it The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast? Well, because we're poor, man. That's a good start. Tell me why else we call it that. We are not millionaire collectors. We sure as hell ain't clinical psychologists nor do we live in fancy high rise in New York. Just assholes who love pinball. We love it a lot. Can't afford a ton of machines. I don't know who can. I don't know who these assholes are that do. What we decided to do was get out there and make our own pinball content. These guys don't swear enough and they definitely don't drink enough on air. What do you say about that? I think a few of them do. You got some Australians that might consume a lot of gin. I have some guys down in Chicago that drink a little bit while they're podcasting. Those guys need to drink more. Probably. Probably. So what are you drinking today, Ian? Today it's a little bit of Guinness. It's just leftovers from yesterday being St. Paddy's Day. We're recording on Monday. So I'm hungover as shit. This is a bad idea to start a podcast the day after St. Paddy's Day, but I'm just gonna push through it. Maybe I'll find my voice halfway through this thing. What are you drinking there, Drew? I am drinking some whiskey and ginger ale. Yeah, kind of whiskey. Some Tullamore Dew. And we're going full Irish today, folks. It's a good thing. I missed St. Paddy's Day yesterday because I was working, but here I am and Pinball podcast. All right, sounds great, man. All right, so we're gonna go through some guidelines. I don't know, pushing, pushing why we're a little different than some of the guys out there. So for starts, let's get this out of the way. We're not going to be a family friendly show. We will swear. Sorry, mom. Part of the reason is I like, I like only know 10 words. So I need, I need swear words to kind of interweave my vocabulary so I can make some kind of sentences. But yeah, then there's a ton of clean podcasts out there. Check out, you know, special when lit. If they do swear, The pinball podcasting fray, episode number one. Thank you so much to my past and future friends We do. Texas Pinball Festival is here. So we were nominated for a couple things. I told them no, withhold our names. I don't need anything right now. Give it to the guys that really put the time in. So we respectfully declined all the awards and accolades. So, but we thought we'd do something fun for you guys today and just kind of give out kind of who we think are going to win. How do you feel about a The I'm always up for a good bet especially Especially if it involves alcohol. All right, that's it. We're gonna have an alcohol bet. Here we go. The bet is this The bet is this I will record our answers who we think are gonna be the winners of twippies and the person that gets the most right The other guy's gotta buy him a bottle of... let's go Johnny Walker Black. Sound like a deal, Drew? Well, this is the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. I don't know if we can afford that, but sure. Let's... how much does a bottle cost these days? Like 30 bucks. Holy shit. Are you kidding me? It's the poor man, not the cheap ass. Okay, fair enough. Fine. A $30 bottle and nice booze. You work for the booze. It's okay. We can do this together. DJveda raw, Crossb safe, I'll give you a piece of paper with all of the pinball machines that are up, okay? Okay. That help? Let's do this. Yeah, a little bit. All right. So, first one is best theme based on theme only. So who do you think? Now nominees, let's just kind of go through them for the listening audience. We have Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle by Spooky, The Beatles by Stern slash Kapow, Cosmic Cart Racing from Multimorphic, Deadpool from Stern, Houdini from American Pinball, Iron Maiden from Stern, Monster Bash remake from Chicago Gaming Company, Pirates of the Caribbean from Jersey Jack, Mafia from Team Pinball, Primus from Stern, Supreme from Stern, Stay back for more Facts like this by turning on a notification Bell and without it pointing the logo of a cause for j��' You're coming up with these machines a little bit faster, don't you think? I really do. So what was this first one again? This was on theme only. Theme, brother. Theme only. Theme. And just so you guys know, like I know theme is important to a lot of people. It really is. And it's important to me, too. But I don't put as much emphasis- Award show, brother. But it is an award show, so without further ado, best pinball machine based on theme. Deadpool was a nice theme, man. They did a pretty good job. The and i'm a deadpool fan i would never on one alice cooper's nightmare castle did a really good job with the minute that is that part of this pocket i don't know okay uh... i'm gonna go with house cooper don't know if you'll be here is why this town because i think i had to take alice cooper right here he made for those machines so far that they're working on number five as we speak just kidding charlie i'm sorry you probably might be the way that we love We're with Scott's and Boy's too, Charlie. We are. Look us up if you get to Milwaukee. Yes, for sure. Charlie, I am a huge, huge, huge TNA fan. We love you, yes. TNA, we voted for him last year. But Alice Cooper with the big castle and the way that it just looks and if you look at it you're like, okay, I'm in this haunted type castle, it's a slush type theme. I think it really hits the mark there. Alright, so what I'm thinking here is it's a three, it's a three horse race. Now we got Pikes of the Caribbean by Jersey Jack. Now that is the most beautiful machine I have ever laid eyes on. That's not what we're voting on, sir. It's theme. It's theme integration. Yep. The Beatles. I think The Beatles, what Christopher Franchi did for that artwork, just ties everything in together. Once again, not theme Ian, you're talking about artwork now. It's a totally different subject. No, no, it's part of the theme. It's the theme. Fair enough. And then Deadpool. I'll go the Beatles. What the hell? Okay. That's solid choice. It would, good, good theme. Have you flipped it though yet? I saw, I saw a stream or two. I watched somebody flip it. I don't have a rich friend that has a diamond edition, Drew, okay? Oh man, I don't. I'm waiting for you to buy one. He said that like I do. And I don't either. So here we are. Alright, so based on theme only. Okay, best animations and display. I will say that Monster Bash is part of this one. Okay. Best animations and display. Drew, what- Ooh, this one... 12 hour podcast. This is gonna be a 12 hour podcast. You know, looking at- is this the same list then for all the themes? Everything, brother. For all the games that are out? All of it. Go for it. Game nominees. Um, I'm looking at this and I'm thinking Deadpool. The LCD and the 90's style, fighting style animations are just great. It's good theme integration, it's good, uh, yeah, it's just a cool, cool LCD and, and, might not be the best of all time, but given the choices we have from this year, I think it's pretty good. That is my vote. Alright, alright. Best animations and display. I... I know who I voted for. Who? I voted Monster Bash Remake. It's my only game. Oh, you're such a homer. I'm selfish, man. I want all the stuff I buy to win. Great game, but I don't know. It is a great display. It really is. Parts of me wish that every game that comes out should have the school bat matrix. We've talked about this in the past and yes, the size and display of the newer Chicago gaming remakes are fantastic. I will agree with that, yes. Alright, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about animations. Easy one, boom, Pirates of the Caribbean all day long. What's the next? Next category, best light show. Light show, light show, light show. Now I have a Metallica Premium which has one of arguably the best light shows in pinball and I tend to agree. You know, light show in that thing is just fantastic. Not a nominee. It is not a nominee. I'll go first. I'll go first this time. Okay, go ahead. Light show. Where are we at? Think about it. You look at your list, you think about it. Okay, I'm looking at my list here. Go ahead. And I'm four and a half drinks in by the way.else to Tech equally inع handles a The following is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is coincidental and unintentional. Next category I love you too Charlie but I just can vote for Alice Cooper on that one I going Monster Bash remake Alright next category here Best toys and gimmicks Ooh. Me or you? I'll go first. Okay. I love, I love, I love, I love, I don't think it's gonna win, but I'm gonna just do it because it needs to be said more. This video is proud to add captions to Line I temaces added for pinball headset. OK, we're going. Huh, so I'm going... So, I'm going Houdini and that. It's toys and Gimmicks? Well, Supreme certainly hoodwigen people with their gimmick of selling a pinball machine for $28,000. It's a nice font! It's a very nicefont. The most expensive font in the history of the world! If only I had that font on my socks! We really are. We really are. Really pushing this poor man. Oh. Back to toys and Gimmicks. Yeah, yeah. That could be Iron Maiden, right? No, definitely not. Iron Maiden was stripped down. Like I said, I really enjoyed it. It's a great game, don't get me wrong. I love it. That fucker shoots beautiful. Every time. That thing is butter. Nanay You know what your wife said to me, right? No, what's that? So she saw that I bought the Monster Bash remake, and she saw the little figures in there, and she goes, oh fuck, are you doing that shit like Drew and buying a bunch of toys and putting it in your machine? Nope, nope, not toys. She calls them dolls. Yeah, the dolls. And it is fantastic. She says, I get a package from Amazon, I buy these really cool iron maiden mummy figures, Knapp Arcade, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. I'll just edit that. But yeah, some of the shots and the toys, the stage in there is pretty cool. That lock shot, what were we talking about? The chest shot. Yeah. It's fantastic. It really is. It's just fun and neat. Alright, so next one is going to be best theme integration. Okay. So this isn't best theme overall. This is the integration of said theme. I just got the integration of him which is much different than female is ghostbusters is a fantastic theme ration maybe not so much well willing to stick with my beatles and as it is integrated very beautifully by the state at because it's the previous fucking machine ever released that's why i'm saying that Financially an excellent crowdfunding event. Visit On высок Oz world www. frag.rito company, on Straight置 www.queen preventingchip.com As of March, Out Jessi at goal screen談 그러니까 Word roadmap Online weeks across Apps The third is second to none. He is the rug. Yes. But theme integration and you know I haven't played Alice Cooper. There have been some talks about not enough toys, you know the castle's beautiful, not actual monsters on the playfield to interact with. AB would have made it one of the better theme integrations of all time. Alright, so Alice Cooper. Alright, I got it though. That wasn't my vote. Oh! I'm gonna get like three seconds out of an eight hour podcast. Can I finish? Can I finish? Yes, Greg Bone, go for it. Okay. I'm gonna go get a beer. Keep going. So that's why I don't think that Alice Cooper is gonna be the winner for the theme integration. But good. I just think that Houdini, you know, for no other reason than, you know, he's got the magic theme, I'm sorry, the illusion theme, he's got the stage where he does his illusions, got the different mechs on the playfield that show like you're doing these illusions. I'm back. Kind of like the old theater of Magic, which everyone obviously loves and I'm a big fan 꽃nay & sis is a joe Iron Maiden for the win. First off, not a huge fan of Iron Maiden when you got that machine, but boy when I, when we pressed that start button, I got jacked, I got pumped up. I was like, I'm playing some fucking pinball and this is gonna get exciting. It just grabbed me by my nutsack and was like, we're going for a ride boys. Audio wise, just beautiful machine. I loved everything about it and I'm going with Iron Maiden on that one. I second that Iron Maiden precedent. What? You gonna choose that one? Oh yeah. I, Iron Maiden, same. I mean, I didn't listen to Iron Maiden growing up or anything like that, but the mod on for pinball, it's great. It's high energy, is fantastic to listen to. I didn't even get annoyed with it after playing it a billion times. Great, great, great sound. Alright, well, that's sound and music. Let's go with best callouts. Best callouts. Looking at this list, I have, I think, a clear winner, but what are you thinking, Drew? I am torn between Monster Bash remake. I don't think that's part of it. Not part of it? No, no, no. I think that's done now. Okay. They only had two categories, I think. Okay, okay. So this should make it easier. Okay. Um... Are there any other ones that are out? No. All the other ones are in? They're all eligible. Whew. I'm gonna have to go with Deadpool. That was what I picked. Just because I think, you know, a lot of people talked about the PG rating and the other thing and yeah we would all like to have the Ryan Reynolds and If it was Ryan Reynolds, it would be a hands down winner, I'm sure of it. But for what they did with it, family friendly, funny, quirky, people say, some people say it's annoying. I think it's cool, I think it's neat, Deadpool it is. Deadpool, alright, so I would agree with everything you just said. Let's get this moving, let's keep it going. Moving along, how many drinks are you in Ian? Ah, two Guinnesses, which is nothing. But I'm starting to get messed up just because I think it re-invigorated my drinking from yesterday. Alright, so next is the best rules. Best rules? Best rules. I didn't play half of these games, I have no idea. Do you go with Pirates of the Caribbean because it has the most complex? Or do you go with something, say, The Beatles, where it's not as deep of a rules? What what drew what do you think about deep complex rules? I like them as we know I am a player he's a player lady good times no I I enjoy playing pinball machines like I kind of alluded to earlier you know theme theme is not the first thing yeah when I look at a pinball machine it's like so it's important I'm a fan of the pinball, but a good rule Set, something that is fun, something you're going to keep pushing the start button for. Like my Metallica, deep rule sets, especially in a home environment are very important for me. So best rules, Iron Maiden. Alright, I will be picking Houdini. I love Houdini. Maybe not so much the way it shootss because I suck at pinball for the most part. However, each mode feels very different and unique and I thought they coded the fuck out of that machine. So definitely going to go with Houdini. Alright, best playfield gameplay and layouts. This one for me is very easy. Like I said, it shoots like butter. It shoots so damn nice and pretty. I'd play it all day long. C Bar exha, Can we say this one together? One, two, three... Iron Maiden! C Well that one was easy. Iron Maiden's a playa too! C So good man, it plays so good. C Just fun to shoot, great layout, just a good game. If you didn't have any rules in that game... C He crushed it. C He really did. You could have no rules in that game, just to flip it, just to shoot is just fun. Alright, so that was best playfield gameplay and layout. Alright, next one, best artwork. Ooh, do you go Zombieyetti or do you go chrisfranchy? Or do you go whodeadspookyspinballmachines? Probably Charlie. Charlie, if you're listening, do you have that kind of talent? Again, we love you. We love you. We do. We do. We love you, respect you, but man. Alright, stop. Okay. Charlie, Charlie get an artist, artist, artist, I can't even talk anymore. Alright, so what do you think of it? I heard Alice Cooper Nightmare Castle is beautiful though artwork Well and you know Zombie Yeti has a couple of horses in this race He got Iron Maiden he got Deadpool That's it. Oh, no, Primus. Yep. That's it. That's it? That's half the list. Fuckin' A. Fuckin' A right. Zombie Yeti. He's working his ass off. So Zombie Yeti has three pretty good showings in there. All of them are beautiful. They really are. I mean, I'm not a Primus fan, but I saw that machine and I was like, holy shit, this machine. Yeah, it's definitely a flipper. Um, but because of my slight bias towards comics and as much as I love Deadpool, I'm going with Deadpool. That game just looks amazing. Just great. All right. Deadpool. I, uh, looking at this list, I, uh, I still think the Beatles is the most beautiful machine ever made. So, I'm gonna stick to my guns there. I think Franchi did a great job. But, uh, I'm definitely a huge Yeti fan, so everything he did was great. Let me ask you this. If the Munsters was in this list, because I know it was released, you know, at the beginning of this year... Fuck the Munsters. It's not about the Munsters, it's about the artwork, though. The artwork on the Munsters. Yeah, but I don't care about that pin. Okay, fair enough. That pin does nothing for me. The art is beautiful, though. I showed it to my grandma. She liked it. She appreciated that pin. There you go. Brought a whole new generation of an old generation into pinball. They went the wrong way. Way to go Stern. Oh, that's mean. Stern is reaching for you. I'm sorry. Living up to our asshole name already. Sorry everybody out there. I'm kidding. Monsters shootsgreat. It's a good pin. It's a good pin. No, it's a beautiful pin. Franchi did a great job on it. I would say he just keeps getting better. So, did you pick one? You picked Deadpool. Alright, here we go. Game of the year. Game of the year. What do you think of game of the year, buddy? Ooh, I think Iron Maiden's gonna run away with it. And looking at this list, I don't know that I can disagree with that. Alright, so Iron Maiden. Yes. Another solid vote for Iron Maiden. What do you think? I agree. I think Ironmane's gonna win this. They sold a shit ton of those units and for good reason. Keith did a great job with the layout. It's a fun game. Man, if that layout could get recycled into a new theme... Everyone has said that. There are several layouts out there that if they could just...yes, a new theme and they would sell another 2,000 units, no problem. 5,000 units, whatever. I could paint that fucker blue and slap Jaws on the side. That is true. Leave all the callouts and music and then you got your fucking Jaws machine. Everyone's happy. Yeah, yeah, life is good for all of you. Paint that shit blue. I just heard today that Jaws will only, for the license, they will only be allowed the shark and the name. They won't even be allowed the music. If that's true, Licensor will only allow seo pareal agav k ch jackie I'm a pinball podcast. I like Kaneda. Who do you like? I like Kaneda. I also like Straight Down the Middle. All right. And that's not a podcast. They used to be. They're a YouTube channel. Now they're just YouTubing it. Now you're just talking about their audio they cut? Yeah. I love it. All right. Favorite pinball YouTube channel? Straight down the middle. Yes, for sure. Favorite pinball mod of 2018? The one where you put it in the machine and it looks cool. How about just in general? How about the mod couple? Oh, sure. A company. There's a lot of good ones out there. Lure mods, Mezzomods. They're all great. Absolutely beautiful. From Alright, this one's actually pretty interesting. Rookie of the Year, new designers, artists, coders, players, Rookie of the Year. What do you think? Keith Elwin. Keith? It's hands down. I mean, here's a guy who, he's not really a rookie. What about Eric? Over at... Eric Manure? Did I say that right? Yeah. Ohhhh. Sorry, Eric. I'm sure that's not how you say your last name. I think he went to Madison. Knapp, RFP, Ken Hanson M Worlds ㅍL Klaas, muf球, región, I think he did fantastic. I just think with... Put all other machines to shame. Yes. I just think Keith's design, him and his brother just really knocked it out of the park. There's a lot of soul in that machine. We appreciate all that love he put in there. Yeah. A lot of work. Yeah, for sure. So what are you thinking? You thinking you're going with Keith? I'm going with Keith. Alright. He did do the game of the year, I guess, so... Yeah, for sure. I think Eric, if he continues with Jersey Jack, he's going to do fine. I think he's going to create some good stuff. Subtitles by the Amara.org community Alright, so it's Eric. Okay, moving on. Alright, and favorite pinball website? You like Pinside? Oh, I love Pinside. Alright, Pinside. I go to Pinside almost daily. My wife thinks I'm looking at porn. Nope, Pinside it is. Yeah, she wishes you were looking at porn. Yep, she sure does. Alright, favorite pinball publication? That's the thing that comes in paper with words. What? Yeah. Yeah, book, maybe a website even? No, not a website. Magazine or article? What are my choices? Alright, that's a hard pass. Okay. Favorite pinball location? I mean, how can they do that? Oh, yeah, you know what people are... Uh, Jimmy Mudd's down the street. Pretty sweet bar, I love it. Uh, yeah, you can't... no. I mean, there are some cool... Uh, Seattle Pinball Hall of Fame. I've been there. I think it's great. I went there this past year. It's awesome. That's my vote because I've been there and it's awesome. Mine too. Wasn't there. Alright, favorite pinball convention? Well... Same kind of thing. We here in Milwaukee have the Midwest Gaming Classic. It's awesome. Haven't been to too many of the other shows so no idea. Texas is great. Chicago Expo is awesome. Just gonna have to start going to them but... Yeah, I'm just gonna go with the Expo, just because it sounds like they had a hell of a show. I watched a lot of the streams and I'm definitely gonna go next year for sure. Alright, and favorite pinball tournament competition? Pass. Let's talk about our tournament play. How many tournaments have you been in, Ian? Uh, well, I went on one by myself. No. Shut up. He's been in none. I've been in none. We're a combined total of none. Undefeated. We are not tournament players and that's just the way it is. Undefeated. Alright man, that's Twippies. So, hey baby. That's Twippies. That is the Twippies. We got through all of them? We got through all of them. All 100 categories? Alright Drew, what else we got man? Oh I don't know. Should be wrapping this up soon. Yeah maybe. Well we got all our Twippies stuff in so now... Should we talk about some podcasts? Yeah, let's do that. Did you listen to any this week? Oh I listen to them all the time. Let's see, who did I listen to this week? I listened to Mr. Kaneda. Did you? Alright, did you? I gotta talk about that. Okay, why don't you start that one off. Kaneda325, this is what I like to call the caffeinated Kaneda episode. That dude was off the hook. He was so excited but excitable and he didn't talk about anything new. It was the same shit. I think he just got powered on by like four or five causes. Isn't that all of his podcasts? Oh, you know when he's all tanked though because he uses the F-bomb like it's, you know, any other word. It's hilarious. He does have a few where he gets a little drunk or like I said a little caffeinated. This one, he was on a whole other level. This was an early one. He was going to work. So he was jacked. He was like, you know what, do you ever hear the beverage called Jaguar? The Second you crane USSR Basically energy drink that's alcoholic. No, where do they sell those they sell those around here only in the ghetto man Only the ghetto but I could just see that fucker just crushing some jayboy That's what he sounded like when he was on that episode one cup of coffee and three Great one. I recommend anyone watching that just just think of him, you know 509Formals付 via Applesco e3q10310 Gaspard Dan D. Gaspard gaming websiteي I'm just like, what are you talking about? I mean, just to hear the words gold jockstrap together in a single podcast. Oh, man, that was good. We love you, man. We think you're great. That was gold. I love most of your takes, but man. That was awesome. And I like this one too. He was like in the zone and he was like, Ok but why am I still talking about Stern He like Stern they a bunch of idiots Gomez is a genius I like Did he run the company Oh man Like I said he was hilarious So that one that was a really good episode that was that was one of my top five he was a little off the rails there and yes there was no one there to slow him down he was like runaway trained yeah and usually usually his takes are okay but you know he just he on this pirates thing and Canada he off it now I just hang on I am just here to tell you right now Canada get off the pirates thing I know there's not a lot to talk about at the moment. We're kind of in this holding period in pinball. But you don't like pirates, you think it's confusing, you think it's beautiful, that's fine. We've heard it. It's over. It's done. That's your opinion. Move on to the next one. Well, I don't think, I think he wanted to move on. I think he wanted to move on like two weeks ago. But he gets the fanboys riled up, man. He gets a lot of emails. That is true. That is true. The They were notorious say No shame in their game. They were going to make sure that he said something positive about it. Yeah, where could they send all of their hate mail? Well our hate mail can be directed at poor man's pinball at gmail.com That's one word poor man's pinball at gmail.com Send all your hate mail. I played pirates and the only thing I can say about it is if you're going on location man And you got to bust out, you know, 20 bucks easy, because it's that $2 a play fått I can't do that. Once again, I think a game like that if you can afford it and poor man's pinball obviously cannot you know, great home game. You probably have a lot of fun with it in your home playing it over and over again but yes Ian is right. I mean, a lot of these places now are charging $2 to play that game. Yeah, it was way too much especially when you're just kind of learning a game and a game that complex. Yes. The end. That was... It was okay. It was just not, it was such a beautiful game. Like I wanted to play it more. But at a home setting? Oh absolutely. That would be a beautiful, beautiful thing to see in your home. Yes absolutely. So anyone out there who's listening, email us and let us know what you think. Is this new complex code that's going on? Is this something that you want to see more of? Or is this something that you hope you get back and Monster Bash medievalm madness? And Monsters, apparently. Anything else here with Kaneda? I don't know, man. I loved it. He did say something that was semi-genious. So, I wanted to give him a little bit of credit. He did mention something about Charlie over there at Spooky. Man, we're talking about Charlie a lot. That's okay. Charlie's a good dude. Wh Cleynon Shaichick dot dot drolly I'm picking on the guy now. No. All right, good. But he mentioned how and it's not even it was a dig at Charlie, but it was more or less a statement about how pinball machines are kind of turning into more of a software machine, getting away from more of the mechanical ball locks, and some of the magic that we used to see in the 90s. And now instead of hitting a creature on the field, you know, now Now it's you hit a same target and it shows on the LCD display as the creature that you hit. You know what I'm saying? Yep, absolutely. So you can hit that same effing target multiple times and now they're like, oh you crushed a tarantula. Oh, extra bonus, you hit Frankenstein in the nuts. Sure, sure. And I just wonder if it's really that much of a cost savings for the company. I'm not a Lord of the Rings fan, whatever. It's a great, great panel. I love shooting it. Whatever. I don't know. It flails out in the middle of the playfield. Gary Stern was on record saying it costs like, I don't know, 50 bucks or something, 40 bucks or 50 bucks. Well, okay, if it costs $50, why can't they just charge an extra 50 or $100 for the game and have something cool like that in there, like in Iron Maiden? Shit, they're already charging an extra, you know, every time a new game comes out, it seems like Stern is upping their prices by like 50 or 100 bucks. Yep. So you can't tell me that Metallica, which was made in 2013 and cost about $5,300, I think, and had a lot of mechs in it, and now they're at Munsters, which has less mechs, and they're charging $5,800. That's not inflation. That $500 is not solely inflation over the last five years. Text that's Joker. Text that'sisexual. Итак, Subtitles by the Amara.org community I don't know the amount of time that we have left for the Q&A, but I just think they can put more in there and still make a great game and still make good margins on their product because they are business, I get that. They're, you know, they're selling fun, but you know, there's still gonna make money so... Right. Nope, I agree, man, I agree. So do you think they're, they're, they're switching software and that's kind of how it's going to be in the future? Well, it's been moving that way. We've seen it. They're not going to integrate the both. It's strictly going to be... But I wish... I'd rather go back... You know what that is? It's called Multimorphic, you know? Okay, maybe. But, you know, Stern... and the other thing is, Stern's using a smaller LCD than all the other companies. Isn't that interesting? Yep. Yep. You know, so American Pinball and Jersey Jack are spending probably twice as much for their screens, I would assume. We don't have to take it Pudovc last Palot Cat the catch Wig is burkitt sun Shazam the hit Cury out the Nevada smartlady regen in his car customizable kate姓 PINBALL PINBALL PINBALL We're gonna have to animate the fuck outta this. Yeah, we're gonna need a city and a man and a hundred other things. Go. But what's the game? I don't even know. I don't know. I don't know, but it's a beautiful shooting game. Oh man, it is fun. Paint that fucker blue and turn it into a Jaws. Alright, so the next thing. Uh, Head to Head, I wanna talk about Head to Head. How you feeling about them lately? Where's Ryan? He is been missing. And don't tell me he's in jail. Ah, it's such a stupid joke. That joke is... It was... That joke belongs in jail. It was... It's a stupid joke. It was funny like two times. And now we're on the twelfth time. So... Marty has turned into like this fucking... Oh my god. He is only going to talk about the shit he wants to talk about. I know it's his show. And that's fine. It is his show. But good lord. And Marty... Marty, of all the pinball personalities, I love you, brother. I do. I think you're fantastic. But the chemistry that you have with Ryan is fantastic. So I just think that you need to bring them back because your guys' chemistry is what kind of makes that show work. You know, those Australians though, they go on holiday. They may not work for four months. I'm not even going to pretend to be on the snack mic. Allthese konni den Who would have thought? Fuck it, it's good. It sure does not. But yes, Ryan, wherever you are, come back. And Ryan, by the way, bring your wife back on for one more episode. She was very entertaining, articulate, and just fun to listen to. Oh yeah, she was great. That was… Ian and I talked about that episode and I think she was fantastic. Yep, yep. That was, that was slightly creepy, but thank you. All right. Well, let's wrap it up, dude. Let's call it. Knapp, Knapp, do, and spotlight the outer mark here skillfulramento For inadmiosa hola club race male We all coming and shout out to our viewers and facing top is video with lovepan çal pan pal