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World Poker Tour VPX Beta Version (Stern 2006)

Mystery Pinball Theater 3000·video·1h 5m·analyzed·Jun 11, 2025
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TL;DR

Manu streams World Poker Tour VPX beta, discussing gameplay and virtual pinball community.

Summary

Manu (MBT3K) streams a beta version of World Poker Tour VPX (virtual pinball recreation of the 2006 Stern machine), discussing gameplay mechanics, design philosophy, and the creative process. The stream includes appearances from community members and discussion of homebrewed pinball projects at recent conventions.

Key Claims

  • World Poker Tour VPX is still in beta/work in progress being created by Robbie Kingpin

    high confidence · Manu and chat confirm Robbie Kingpin is the creator; Marty provided the latest version for streaming

  • Borg Dog's homebrew pinball game debuted at Northwest Pinball Expo and did not break during public play

    high confidence · Manu congratulates Borg Dog directly in stream; mentions the game was displayed at Fast Pinball booth

  • World Poker Tour (original 2006 Stern) uses SAM (not White Star) hardware

    medium confidence · Chat confirms SAM, though Manu initially uncertain; SAM ran from 2006-2010 per referenced timeline

  • VPX version of World Poker Tour has performance stuttering issues during multiball due to intensive graphics features (reflections, etc.)

    high confidence · Manu reports stuttering on his machine during multiball; mentions turning off reflections and other features to improve performance

  • World Poker Tour has ball-sticking/geometry issues in the virtual recreation that cause balls to become trapped on the playfield

    high confidence · Manu experiences multiple instances of balls getting stuck; discusses how geometry design can create ball traps, references Stern QA process with pinballs

Notable Quotes

  • “This is a work in progress right now. World Poker Tour Recreation... It's probably the best simulation of it right now.”

    Manu @ early stream — Establishes the VPX project status and quality assessment

  • “Borg Dog, just tell me in 10 words or less, how did it feel having your game on display and people playing it?”

    Manu @ opening segment — Recognition of homebrew pinball achievement at convention; emphasizes tactile/public play experience

  • “If you can shoot, this game is for you. If you can't shoot like me, this game may not be for you.”

    Manu @ gameplay commentary — Describes game difficulty and shot-intensive design philosophy

  • “This whole game is downtown. Like, you want if you want to make a shot, you got to get on a bus and go into town to do that.”

    Manu @ playfield analysis — Characterizes playfield design philosophy—shots located far back, requiring long-range ramp play

  • “I mean, for this I've actually had this before today... it lost the ball cuz I shouldn't be in one ball right now.”

    Manu @ multiball issues — Indicates recurring ball-tracking bugs in VPX version during active play

Entities

ManupersonMystery Pinball Theater 3000organizationRobbie KingpinpersonMartypersonBorg DogpersonEricapersonAaronpersonWorld Poker Tour (2006 Stern)gameWorld Poker Tour VPXproduct

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Virtual pinball community actively producing high-quality recreations of classic machines (e.g., Robbie Kingpin's World Poker Tour); content creators like Dirty Pool Pinball promote VPX on platforms like Twitch/podcast

    high · Dirty Pool Pinball offers to represent VPX on podcast; owns two VPX machines; describes self as 'most outspoken or visible virtual pinball player'; Manu built VPX machine 15 years ago

  • ?

    event_signal: Northwest Pinball Expo showcased homebrew pinball games with successful public play-testing; Borg Dog's machine survived without mechanical failure

    high · Manu congratulates Borg Dog on convention debut; confirms game did not break; mentions it was displayed at Fast Pinball booth; Erica documented with photographs

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: World Poker Tour (original 2006 Stern) remains divisive in collector community—some dismiss it ('F that game') while passionate enthusiasts appreciate its unique design and complexity

    medium · Manu notes 'This game is weird to people... People are like F that game... But certain people... are all about... they like this game. It's a weird game.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: World Poker Tour employs 'downtown' playfield design with all significant shots positioned far back on playfield, requiring long-distance ramp accuracy and skill shot integration

    high · Manu describes: 'This whole game is downtown... you got to catch a bus and go go into town to do that... shots in this game are so far back'

  • ?

    product_concern: World Poker Tour VPX beta exhibits performance degradation during multiball, requiring feature reduction (reflections, effects) to maintain playability on host system

Transcript

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0:17
[Music] You want distractions? You got distractions. Here's your distractions. Manu dressed to play poker. See, I got my poker hat on and I got my poker whatever this is. Actually, I want to move this. Maybe I could put it on my collar. Can I put on my collar? Welcome in, Slappy Guns. Welcome in, Iron Fox. What's up, Gmy? How are you guys doing? Having a good evening. I'm going to put this here. And the world's least worst bowling shirt. There you go. The world's least worst bowling shirt. How about that? World Poker Champ MPT3K. That's what we're gonna do tonight. Poker. I already hardly know her. How many times How many times is that joke gonna happen?
1:09
That's okay. It's a good joke. It's a good joke. It's a good joke. There are no bad jokes. Only jokes repeated over and over and over again.
1:26
I don't know about high scores because this one is hard. Borg dog, just tell me in 10 words or less, how did it feel having your game on display and people playing it? Um, I got I got a note from uh from Erica that your your your Star Wars was amazing, she said. And uh if you guys don't know that um nervous as [ __ ] If you guys don't know, Borg Dog had his homebrew at um the Northwest U Expo had happened and uh yeah, when you get actual people touching it and flipping it, it's a little different, right? It's kind of crazy, but congratulations. I'm glad you had a Did it break? Yes or no?
2:12
Northwest Pinball Expo
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Dirty Pool Pinballperson
Slappy Gunsperson
Motel Capri Poker Showdownevent
Celebrity Poker Showdownmedia
Mike Sextonperson
Keith Elwinperson

high · Manu reports stuttering during multiball; has disabled reflections and other graphics features to improve performance; notes 'There's a lot of features' but had to turn most off

  • ?

    technology_signal: VPX recreation of World Poker Tour has recurring ball-sticking/trapping issues in playfield geometry, requiring debugging and refinement

    high · Multiple instances of balls becoming stuck during gameplay; Manu discusses how geometry can trap balls; references Stern QA practice of checking for ball traps using pinballs placed on playfield

    • That's what you got to ask all homebrew people. Did it break? No. Question mark. I don't know why there's a question mark. No. Question mark. Okay, I'll buy it. I'll take it. No. Did it. Did anyone tilt out and make you freak out? Yeah. Yeah. No. Congratulations, man. That was great. Erica took a sneaky picture. Where's my Where's my thing? She took a sneaky picture of you and sent it to me. Let me see if I can Let me Let me see if I have it. Where's the sneaky picture Erica took of you? She said, "It's amazing." Oh, no. That wasn't the one was sneaky. One was sneaky of you. All right. And then the other one was of this this handsome dude. This handsome dude with an awesome game. Congratulations, Borg, for having it out. You were at the Fast Pinball booth, I think. Or was it a Fast Pinball or was just like a Yeah, it was like It was like fast pinball. Yeah. Isn't that cool, guys? That's That's our boy. That's our boy Borg and his game. That's what I'm talking about. Hell yeah. To actually make a physical freaking game and have it on location. Fast pinball. Yeah. Did you see Aaron? Tell Aaron. I was I was going to say tell Aaron I said hi, but it's already over, so it's all good. But yeah, Aaron is super cool. The Fast Pinball guys are super cool. Love those guys. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Congrats to Glenn Glen board. Um, so I'm gonna play this. This is a work in progress. And you know what? I'm an idiot because I forgot to even look up. Um, let me see something here. This is
    4:09
    Let me see. Uh, where is it? Where is it? You know what? You know what, guys? I don't know who's creating this right now, and I forgot to ask the name, but I asked Marty. Marty has streamed this. This is a work in progress right now. World Poker Recreation. I apologize if Marty shows up. I'll ask and then they'll um and then they'll tell me who's working on this. But currently, it's uh it's still in production. It's still being created. It's a recreation of WPT. It's probably the best simulation of it right now. It stutters a little on my game, but I'm going to play it anyway. As soon as I get into a multiball, it starts to stutter a little bit, so I might have to restart. But, um, it's still, you know, it's still in beta, still in testing, so there's still some stuff to do. There's a lot of features. Um, is a VPX table you can play? Really?
    5:09
    Or did you grab it and then recreate it? Because even still, that's still that's still a tough thing to do. It doesn't matter if it's like your own creation or a creation. If you take a virtual and turn it into uh Robbie Kingpin is working on I believe. Thank you, Dreads. Uh we will check that with with Marty, but um Marty was kind. Yes, my VPN first eight years ago. Nice. Awesome. Cool. Yeah. You know what? I want to check it out. I want to download it and try it. That would be cool. Yeah. Thank you for letting me know because that means I can throw it and throw it into this puppy. I don't have the physical one, but the uh the virtual will have to do.
    5:50
    No, I'm not lamb. I'm not doing sunglasses otherwise I won't be able to see what I'm flipping.
    6:01
    Hey, there's Marty. Marty, so is this Robbie Kingpin? cuz I forgot that. I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing. What the what? I need to update my antivirus. Incoming raid to the mystery pinball theater. Pinball is in the his mostly pirate. Welcome to the theater where life is like pinball pirate. Sometimes you tilt, sometimes you're special. Or sometimes you're like Manu and you get an extra ball. Get an extra ball. Yes, we know Pinm. Thank you pirate for the raid. Um, welcome in just to catch you up. Just to catch you up. Mostly pirate. Welcome in. Have a seat. Good to see you. I hope your raid was I hope your raid was good. I hope your uh your stream was good.
    6:49
    Just to catch you up, mostly pirate since you just joined us. We recently discussed I just started. So, we recently discussed Borg Dog and Borg Dog's uh homebrew debut at the Northwest Pinball Festival. Congratulations. We recently discussed uh Erica and that she's sneaky. And uh we were discussing this game is still in testing, but Marty was cool enough to send it over to me today. I asked I said, "Please, I want to play some WPT. Can I stream it?" He said, "Yeah, I'll give you the latest version." So, this is the latest version. I don't know when it's going to be released, but this is a this is a kind of special game. I don't have flips on the do, so it's going to be a little quiet when I hit the flippers, but that's okay. I can I can wait for that. Um, then we'll know your tell.
    7:43
    Uh, he whistles louder when he's lying. If anybody gets that reference right now, you get a thousand points. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Um, he whistles louder when he's lying. Okay. Um, let me see. From now on, Ghost Flipper, I'm going to beat you at everything. What did Ghost Flipper say? Damn you, Game Central Puncher, you beat me to it. Glad to see this is being redone so I don't have to keep playing the one from the name that shouldn't. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yes. Bruce Valanche. No, it's from a TV show, Lamb. So, that's No one's going to get I'll tell you at the end of the end of the stream. I'll tell you at the end of the stream. What What TV show? You're going to be like, "Oh my god, you have to be a thousand years old to know that." Um, I'm in free play, so I didn't even need to do that.
    8:46
    notice I don't have the absolutely atrocious actual WPT back glass. The absolutely atrocious I you know Courtney does not look like that. She does not look that terrible. And with Vince and and and Mike in the background. I am proud to admit this man is as old as dirt. Yeah, she's right. I I built her when I was a small lad in my lab and then I went and you know I turned to the dark side and I became Darth Vader. Um, my mother the car. No, no, Grubby. No, it's a tough one. It's a It's a very obscure one. I mean, not an obscure show. It's a really popular show. So, um, yeah, I actually met Mike Ston. Mike Ston, uh, the the the, uh, the pinball, I mean, not the pinball, the poker, you know, announcer and excellent top tier player himself. Um, oh, Slappy Guns got it. Slabby Guns, how the hell did you know that? Wow. No, Slappy Guns got it. It's from an episode of MASH. He whistles louder when he's lying. Oh, wow. Slappy Guns a thousand points. Write the slapping. Only a lad. You really can't blame him. Only a lad. Society made him. He's our responsibility. Oh. Oh. Whoa. Whoa. Wow. Pimbot. All right. Frank Burns can't play poker. Exactly. Frank Burns. Oh, man. So, just so you know, I mean, I I I kind of forgot a lot of this game, but I do know the object of the game is to defeat all the players at all the different locations. Um, and that the skill shot is very important in this game. No dots. I I was bored. I was going to change it back to dots, but then I said, "Nah, I don't want dots today. I just want I want all the dots filled into squares today." Um, it was Winchester. Was it was Winchester who was lying when he was whistling louder? Okay. It's been forever. I think I saw that show when I was like 12 or whatever. I don't even remember how old I was. Um, so the skill shot is very important. As you can see, it's got three options: advance, hold them, mystery, and skill flip. And if you want to get through the game, you're going to always advance your hold. You got your flop, your turn, your river. It does hold up. Yeah, you got your flop, your turn, your river. Your flop and turn river on your ramps. Ramps are tough to catch. In fact, this is not even a ramp. This is a turnaround. It's like a U-turn like in Jaws. Um, this is a big old steep ramp. The shots in this game are so far back, but this is a drop target lovers freaking dream. Um, this game is extremely difficult to get through. It's very hard to get through. Uh, because by the time you hit like the Bahamas, you have to hit so many ramps and stuff that it's really tough. There is a strategy on points for this game where you want to do your spin a card shot. This shot is incredibly difficult to hit. But this is where your modes are, and your modes are switched by hitting the flippers. You got six modes down here. And you can start a mode if you can hit that shot. Your light lock is over here in this dangerous area right here. Um, and there is a shot way back here, which I absolutely love. That leads to this upper playfield. There's a lock here for Ace in the Hole, and there's a hole there, and there's a light mystery there. So, this this is pretty much a downtown. This whole game is downtown. Like like you want if you want to make a shot, you got to get on a bus. You got to you got to catch a bus and go go go into town to do that. But they'll give you an advanced hold right in the beginning. Bahamas for when parrot heads dress up. That's right. This is my Tommy Bahama right here. Remy knows
    13:01
    speed limit 55. So I'm going to try and lock in the ace in the hole. Got a mystery. Gmy, I'mma try and lock. See if I can lock in here. Nope. Missed it.
    13:24
    Next thing I'm going to try is not to drain all day. Didn't figure you for a Buffett fan. No, I didn't get the Buffett reference, but I am wearing B Tommy Bahama shirt. There you go.
    13:48
    The shots on this are really hard, but I think the shots on the actual table are that hard, too.
    14:06
    So, lock is lit. Yikes. I had to give it a little nudge right there. Uh, parrot heads are at word. Jimmy Buffy's fan. Oh, I didn't know that. There you go. All right, here's the turn. Still trying to lock and still haven't been successful. So, if you can shoot, this game is for you. If you can't shoot like me, this game may not be for you. But that ramp is tough. And then after a while, they're going to make you shoot that ramp to advance your hand.
    14:49
    All right, I beat Las Vegas. I can move directly to Atlantic City, but then I have to beat two.
    15:01
    Okay, I got a lock and I got a chip trick and I think a spin a card. Yes.
    15:16
    So, we're playing steal the blinds. And as I recall, this is I keep dropping it down below, but I really want to
    15:50
    All right, that I think that I think that mode is over. Nope, still going.
    15:58
    That's Woo! Boy, this is tough. So, as you can see, as you Damn it. As you hit drop targets, you make hands.
    16:23
    It's a very challenging game, but I I I still find it fun. Oh boy.
    16:41
    All I want to do is advance my hand really right now and I don't seem to be able to do it.
    16:51
    Doing lots of chick chip tricks. Oh boy. Oh, this game. I can lock another ball and start a multiball, but I really want to I want to spin a card. See if I can back Oh, the backhand. The backhand, baby. I backhanded that like. So, I think I'm in Am I in Did I do a spin a card, too? I did. No limit. No limit multiball. Now, this is where it gets really slow on my machine, though. So, let's see if it still does. I turned a lot of things off. There's a lot of features in this game. There's reflections and all kinds of stuff.
    17:40
    I turned most of them off because my machine can't handle it, but
    17:55
    Crap. That was terrible. Woo! That's a spin. Okay, I think it lost a ball. Where's the ball?
    18:11
    I'm in multiball, but there's no ball. Uhoh. Well, this is why this is still in beta, I guess.
    18:21
    Yeah, it lost the ball cuz I shouldn't be in one ball right now. Oh, ace in the hole. I don't know. Maybe it is. Maybe you're right. Well, let me see if I can make that shot.
    18:44
    If I can feed that ramp. No. Okay, now it's going to be like,
    18:50
    yeah, I lost the ball. So, somewhere in the game there's like a a hole or something. That That sucks. That's a pretty good score going on.
    18:59
    We'll know when the missing ball finishes falling out of bounds and brings VPX down. Well, you know what happens, Lynn? I mean, for this I I've actually had this before today. Oh, it found it. Oh, so it didn't lose it. It was stuck somewhere. I mean, but that's still an issue, right? Okay. It was just stuck. Queen of spades. That's a That's kind of a drag, though, because you really you really don't want it to be stuck. So, I have one ace in the hole. Real games have stuff. I know, but this one has stuck balls a lot. So, if you have stuck balls a lot, then you have a piece of geometry in there that's that's holding the ball. I remember a story that um uh Wayson from um Stern used to tell and that he would go around to different um designers games with a bunch of pinballs and as they design the game they maybe leave whatever and he'd go over and he'd just put pinballs just gently set them down on the playfield to show the designers, hey, a ball can get trapped here. I think that's something that they do at Stern just to mess with each other. Um 16 is not too bad. A good score right now. Hey, Robbie will know we'll have a video to refer to. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. And I want I want I want this to be so amazing. I mean, it really is already amazing. I love this game. I don't know why I I've played this game, the physical version and the virtual version. I just I don't know why it's such a brutal game. I'm only beating Vegas. All right, where am I at? um at the flop. So if I do my advance hold this time you have to time it. Not not hard to do. I advance hold
    20:54
    two diamonds and a heart and I can start the multiball. I don't usually want to but I will just for SMGs.
    21:07
    There it is. Have to do it the hard way. There's a side. Whoa. Sometimes you got to flail to get those balls out of there. There's a replay. Woo. A There's my multiball. Stay in. Stay in. River. No. river. Oh, that's Hey, I still got it going. What did I start? Why do I have three balls right now? Not sure what I started. Did anybody see what I started?
    22:09
    have any idea what I started? Baby powder may help suck balls. I've sent clips to table Arthurs in the past when something's wrong. Yeah,
    22:25
    I am flush. How'd you know I was flush? She goes flush. Okay, here we go. Oh, that was bad. Try again. Try again.
    22:47
    Look at that cheat. Oh, that was mean game. [ __ ] Oh, well,
    23:07
    that was almost something. All right, I'm still in Los Angeles. I still I need my flop. Oh, I need my flop. Oh, I hate shooting that other ramp. You're busting out all the esoteric Pokemon. I'm trying. Oh.
    23:28
    Man, it sucks to get that far up the ramp and then not up the ramp. I feel like this has stern uh flipper fade.
    23:43
    Oh, damn it. Full house on the way out. Awesome. Only one city. One city. Slappy, what are your initials? I'm putting you in here. Slappy was first in the stream. Slappy needs to be distracted. What are your initials? Slappy. Sm.
    24:12
    All right, Slappy. We got to beat your score over the rest of the stream. Thank you, Slappy. Boom. 33. That's a pretty decent score. My first a couple of times. You got it, bro. All right.
    24:27
    So, the way you kind of blow this game up, though, is you have to stack those modes with those multiballs. Um, I think a really good mode, I can't remember, but I think it's Is it change gears? It might be change gears where you work the upper playfield and the lower play field. You can get big scores, especially if you can get a multiball going. Um, the game feels a little floaty to me and I'm usually complaining about these VPX reproductions being too fast. This feels a little floaty, although it really depends on, you know, how you set it up. I mean, I haven't changed anything from the defaults right now. Um, and and where I'm where I live, every game is steep. It's like a 6.5 freaking slope or better. So, this may be stock stock floatiness, so to speak. All right. So, I just got to get used to it. I'm just used to it being a lot faster. All right. Let's see how far we So, we're in the Bahamas. Great. So, let's see how far we can get. It's tough.
    25:45
    I would play an ace jack off suit. I would at least uh I would at least see a flop with an ace jack off suit. I would want to see a flop now. It depends on my position also,
    26:00
    but ace jack off suit is is is pretty decent start. Ace jack suited much better.
    26:18
    That makes see if we can see a flop. Now I'm hitting that shot. I can't hit spin a card. Where am I? Play the button. No. Aha. Found it. Found one of them. Look at that. So, see how it's sitting there? That shouldn't happen. See that? So,
    26:45
    we might be able to make some adjustments in VPX to fix that. I love that intro sound. What's up, Smemedley? I love that intro sound. It's like the first thing he says is you're wasting your time. And I'm like, really? Am I? I'm sorry.
    27:22
    A queen makes a straight. I've never heard that before. Come on, you guys. This is This is quality humor here. Come on.
    27:46
    Thank you, Grim. This this this game is based on that whole world of terribleness. You know that, right? When you get a pair of queens and you call them Sig Freed and Roy, every hand has a nickname and they are all based on being awful to people.
    28:09
    I didn't make it up. I'm surprised nobody coming on your as a as I didn't make it up though. Like all I'm doing is just I'm just Don't kill the messenger, right? Let's advance. Advance.
    28:25
    Fortunately, they didn't put any of that stuff in this game. You know, you'll get you get um
    28:35
    Mike Ston won't say 98 offuit. 98 off suit. Mike Saxon won't say like terrible things. All right, let's see if we can get a flop.
    28:48
    Let's see if we can get a flop. I want a flop. 10, Jack, five.
    28:57
    Michael and Tito, right? When you get a jack, Jack, and a five, you get Michael and Tito. Isaiah,
    29:12
    I hardly knew her. That's the third time that joke, but let's keep going. I love it. Let's go. Shoot the hole.
    29:30
    Didn't mean to do that. Didn't mean to start my ace in a hole right there, but that's okay. Isaiah, this is a real man's game. This pinball, this pinball game here, World Poker Tour, as a man's game, and a woman who's really good at pinball.
    29:53
    Basically, it's any human being's game that's really good at pinball. Damn it.
    30:04
    That's gone. You're at the airport. Nice. All right. Back to about to fly from Tokyo back to Osaka.
    30:15
    Well, aren't you the jet setter? Did you find Blue Swing yet? Did you go to see Blue Swing yet? Don't come back here without a freaking Blue Swing freaking t-shirt. Even if you gotta make one, lie to me and say, "Yo, Manu, Blue Swing was amazing. I saw them live. It's amazing." It would. Yeah, you're right, Isaiah. All right, let's advance. [Music] Yay! Okay, I'll lie to you. I got to play. I got to defeat another opponent. 89 off suit. We need to lock again.
    31:02
    Open those damn doors. So those forks are exactly the same forks that Jack Danger uses in Fufuas for the um for that robot guy or whatever the main antagonist fufu fighters. It's also the same. It's also the same mechanism used in Avatar. Not the Jersey Jack, but the Stern Avatar.
    31:38
    Bumpers, change the blinds, man. They tell you like so quick. They they tell you the rules so quick about each Gone. Gone.
    31:54
    They use those forks um a lot in barrels of fun games. True. All two of them. They do have the forks in all two of those barrels of fun games. All right, here we go. Let's advance. [Music] I got a pair of fours.
    32:20
    Where am I going? Let's get our ace in the hole right there. Oh, it's earlier on the flipper. There it is. What the fork?
    32:33
    You were really into poker in the mid. I was really into p I was really into poker. I was watching all I was watching Phil Helmouth. I was watching um Daniel Negrano or whatever. I can't remember most of the game, but I used to watch this. This here is my Motel Capri poker hat visor. What was the Motel Capri, you ask?
    33:06
    The Motel Capri was a place where we played pinball. Pinball. Jesus Christ. Poker every Monday. Um, this actually says, I don't know if you can see it. I'll show it to you when I'm finished. It says Motel Capri Poker Showdown. It's styled after I don't know if you guys remember a TV show. I think it was on Bravo or whatever. Um, I think it was called World Poker Showdown. It was hosted by
    33:39
    I forget the pro the poker pros name, but um the guy from Kids in the Hall.
    33:47
    What is the dude's name from Kids in a Hall? Kids in the Hall. Guys, help me. Kids in the Hall. Kids in the Hall.
    34:01
    Foley. Dave Foley. Dave Foley. Thank you, Grammy. Dave Foley. It was hosted by Dave Foley and a pin and a poker. I keep saying pinball and a poker professional who uh Extra Ball.
    34:19
    And it was um Oh, no. It was called Celebrity Poker Showdown. Celebrity Poker Showdown. Yeah. Celebrity Poker Showdown. And it always it was like obviously celebrities and they were playing poker and it was one of the greatest shows ever and I need to find copies of it or go to YouTube and find celebrity freaking poker showdown
    34:44
    [ __ ] cuz that that that show was great and so I stole I stole the uh the design from that show. I remember Vanessa Russo was on Big Brother and a poker winner. Really? I I never knew that. I never knew that. That's That's cool. Oh, no. Okay.
    35:12
    I don't know. Marty probably left. I was going to ask Marty what their high score was on this game. Oh no. Okay, here we go. This is definitely a trap up in Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh. Woohoo! Oh, good nudge, Manu. Oh, that's not going in there.
    35:39
    Oh, that's not going in there. That ball does not want to go. Oh my god. Seriously.
    35:52
    Let's go. My high score in this game is where you put high score plus one. Plus one plus 10. Plus 10. I rod.
    36:13
    Wow. Sorry I don't play. All right, let's get that river. Yes, that river. Boom. Dirty pool. What's up? Yes, Dirty Pool. I play I play the part when I play. I'm playing the part right here, buddy. when you if you come to play poker, right? If you if you don't know who the fish is, it's you.
    36:59
    Oh, what a save. Oh, and Dirty Pool, I should talk to you at some point. We should chat. Um, we need we should chat. I got your message on Insta and Yeah. Yeah. Let's let's let's let's let's chatty chat at some point.
    37:23
    Oh, come on, man. It was a rookie move. Dang it. Mystery Poker Theater 3000.
    37:39
    Yeah, you can. Um, how how how do you guys how how how can I be reached? I would love to have you represent the VP pin me on the podcast. Well, that Okay, so dirty dirty dirty dirty pool pinball. So, I'll tell you. Okay. Um Um I guess I'm the most outspoken or visible virtual pinball player, right? Um I do own two games. Um, that's that's something Isaiah I need to tell you about. So, yeah,
    38:17
    do not put my phone number in chat. Isaiah, do not put my phone number in chat. Um, um, hit me up. Uh, I will, uh, uh, hit me. I'll I'll put my phone number in. Um, I'll give you my phone number, Dirty. Uh, so I'll uh I don't even know how we were conversing, but I'll hit you up with my number in Instagram and then you can get then you can text me and call me or whatever if you want. I need your social, too. What's the last reason you lived on? Uh, bro, you and Small Change butt games while I was gone. Yeah, kind of sort of, Isaiah. Kind of sort of kind of sort of. Um, Ghost Flipper. But if what if but only if everyone calls late at night? Yes. No, I'm not Zach Meanie. Like I don't want to be called late at night and on weekends. Um, what's your pet's first? What's your first pet's name? Kitty. Believe it or not, Kitty. So, here's my porn name. My porn name is is Kitty Rogers. top. My porn name is Kitty Rogers because my first pet was Kitty and the street I lived on was Rogers Avenue.
    39:44
    If that's the rules, if those are the rules and that's that's that's that's what I am. Ah,
    39:55
    wow. Wow, that was a heck of a a run. Oh, but what I was saying, Dirty Dirty Pinball, is um No, I'm happy to talk I'm always happy to talk about virtual pinball. I'm probably the dumbest person in the room when it comes to um what it takes to do it nowadays, but I I built this I built this machine 15 years ago. 15 years ago when my son was my first son was born. Um because I needed a project um
    40:39
    I needed something to do cuz you know being a new dad I I'm got lots of free time.
    40:47
    It's what uh you can call Ian at Nudge at 3:00 a.m. and tell him that Raven
    41:03
    Oh yeah. Nothing says free time like being a dad. Oh, you know. Oh, you know, Dirty, you got you have kids? I feel like I know you have kids, but And I don't want you to get all personal right now if you don't want to. But do you have kids? How many? And why? And why would you do that to yourself? Ah.
    41:27
    Oh, I got a I got a multiball. I have kid. Okay. New kid. Brand new kid. Is this spanking brand new kid? Okay. I can't I can't wait to hear this. What' you call me, Mike? You call me an ad hole.
    42:07
    Good work, Arthur of this table allowing me to stage flip those.
    42:19
    Why is that ball stuck up there? Oh, I see. Look at that. Look at the staging happening on this game, too. Kid is on the block. I don't know. I I I don't know. But I'm I'm snipped now. Oh, are you okay? Kid is in the second grade. Nice. Second grade. I got one in the second grade, too. I got one actually just left the second grade. Going to the third grade next year. Um I have a kid. He still thinks I'm a superhero. Uh and the coolest person in the world, so he must be quite young. Slappy.
    43:14
    Man, I really want that extra freaking ball. But you won't give it to me, will you?
    43:39
    Look at this. Okay, let's see if we can stage. Hang on. My staging skills are really crap right now. What's going on? There we go. Okay,
    43:57
    there we go. I was like, why can't I stage today? A get back up there. Oh man, that came around fast.
    44:19
    Woohoo. I'm getting the vapors. I got stage fright. Let's see. Um, I miss him. Second grade was awesome. We got cake. Today was the last day of school. All right, cool. Going into first grade. Nice for slapping. Rest in peace. Free time. Isn't WPT from the dark? It is. Uh, the white star. Bad times. Uh, is this a white star? Is this a white star? Might be. You might be right. Yes, you might be right. No, it is. It's Sam. It's Sam. It's Sam. It's not Whit Star. It's Sam. It's Sam. I think it's Sam. Is it Whit Star or Sam? Now I'm a geek. When I was a dad, I once had a whole hour to myself and the legs gave out from squatting down behind the dryer. You're slappy, ladies and gentlemen. Um 2006 2010 was a dark times. Yeah. Uh all right. Here we go. Here we Let's see if we can keep keep this train running. Cradle separation.
    45:26
    Nope, that wasn't successful. Try again. Nope. Try again. Nope. A damn it. I got one more jackpot on the way out cuz my cradle separation sucks. Damn it. What you got, Courtney? Change gears is what I want with a multiball, though. I want change gears with a multiball.
    46:01
    Let's see if we can get up to the top. There we go. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. I found that found that shot.
    46:31
    Let's hit that uh flashing shot. Oh, let's try again. Try again. Oh, sugar. Easy. Oh, don't do this.
    46:48
    You guys can tell that I absolutely love this game, right? Originally, a jackpot was a pile of money in poker that accumulated until someone produced a pair of jacks or something better. Oh, get out. Really, Isaiah? That's why it's called a jackpot? Look at the big brain on Isaiah. O Sam is 22. Yeah. 222 on Pens. Nobody said it was good. Dirty Pool. I just said I like it, but I didn't say I didn't defend it in any rankings or anything. This game is weird to people. People are like, "F that game." But then certain people I know who are collectors are all about, you know, they like this game. It's a weird game. It's a weird game.
    47:40
    How many more hits? I don't know how many more hits. I'm not worried about the hurry up though. Weird. How? It's a Cuz it's got It looks like it's got nothing. It looks like start Oh, start poker. Damn it. Okay. Looks like it's got nothing, right? It looks like it's blank and bare.
    48:03
    Look, it looks like it's a P3, and I own a P3. I understand the sentiment.
    48:13
    Uh, except for Portal, but so that's why this, in fact, this is, in fact, this is a game that you could pretty much do on a stock P3. Oh,
    48:27
    damn. Get me the freaking Woohoo! Oh, dirty pool. Dirty pull. Yo, yo, yo, question.
    48:40
    Okay. Okay, you're here. I got King Kong questions. I got King Kong questions. I got King Kong questions. I got King Kong
    48:51
    cuz I know you got a Kong. Okay. All right. So, after I've after I've climbed a little bit, what is it that um Damn it. So, so, so when you're climbing, right, you get like three climb lights and then there's an arrow pointing at a set of them like this.
    49:19
    What What do you do when you're climbing? Are there What do you do? Like why is the climbing animation so awful? What's up, Swizzlefish? Eight shots of climb. Turn on the Yes.
    49:40
    How Let me ask you something. Word up. How amazing is Keith Ellwin? Word up. Like his rule set on that game. It's not just chef's kiss. I want to actually tongue kiss the chef.
    50:04
    Kind of regret that I just said that. Okay, eight climb now. See, now I'm going to focus on freaking climb shots now, which is kind of dumb. I shouldn't The thing the nice thing The nice thing about his games is you can be doing something at all the time. You could be doing something all the time. So, okay. I lit island lock is Yes. Yo, isn't that cool? Island lock gets you a multiball and a ball save on a mode, which is sick.
    50:41
    I don't know what clip dreads goes. Clip it. I don't know what to focus on now. Dirty. So, check it out. Dirty pimp. Okay, so another one question. The ball Yeah, the you think the ball saver is too long. Not for me. So many choices. These fanboy streamers, I love it. So So the other question is, which skill shot do you prefer? The spider or like the upper diverter ramp thingy? Go.
    51:11
    Here's the river. The river. Do you like the anti-skll shot? That's the Congo. That's the Congo. That's like one of the Yeah. One of the Bro, you don't know how many times I hit the the anti-skll shot um um at the at the media day. All I was doing was hitting the anti-skll shots. People thought I was People thought I was whack, but it turns out I was freaking cool, I guess.
    51:45
    Oh, it's a free hit to the biplane. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Andy skill shot outlane all the way. Y'all watch the NWPA show making of Kong video yet? I didn't. No, that's cool. Uh, no, the super secret upper one for sure. Okay, super secret cuz it gets a free hit on the biplane. Okay, that one's hard though. I mean, it's free if you make the shot. Yeah, Kong's Kong is straight up doing some business to one of those buildings.
    52:14
    Do you have to use the Do you have to use the the river diverter to get that shot or can you get I I always use the river diverter to get that shot if I have it. Oh, wait. Where's my ball? I was looking at the wrong flipper. Um, and by business, I mean pleasuring itself.
    52:40
    Okay. You haven't done it, but I did it once. I like There you go. Each pit multiball has a different rule, too. So, we have one. We have a premium at the shop and like each creature has different objects. Yeah. So, we have a premium at the shop, right? And I I barely get to play it cuz I was all in Guardian's butt today. Groot Groot decided to stop working. [ __ ] Oh, look how far I was. Ah, Dirty Pool. What are your initials? You're going in here. Or should I go DPP? Give me some initials, bro. Yeah, DPP. Yeah, I figured as much. D P. I like that. I like that. You and don't panic flip. DPF DP Don't panic flip comes first in the alphabet. Sorry.
    53:54
    Is Slappy here? Slappy, are you still here? Did you Were you Slappy? Were you uh um distracted? Was this a good enough distraction? I hope it was cuz man, I I I to I put a pretty I put a pretty good score up, I think, or 48. I got to get 75 to get a GC. Oh my god. Uh, is this an updated version of WPT? What's up, Drop Cat? Drop catch god. I love it. Um, hang on a second. Drop catch, hold that thought. Um, Dirty Pool, I'll hit you up with my phone number. You can text me. Um, the question I had was
    54:43
    I forgot the last question I had for Kong, but I guess I will be hing and I guess I'll be watching your um here. I'm gonna I'm gonna What's up, Owl? I'm going to shout out Dirty Pool so you guys can go check it out because if you want to go watch I'm switched. I switched. I'm on AFM now. Attack from Mars. No, no, no. It's all good. We could watch the VODs, right? We could watch the VODs. It's all good. How are you doing, Owl?
    55:24
    How are you doing, Owl? Anonymous is here, too. Anonymous has a has does does a does a does a Twitch does a Twitch thing, too. Let's do an Anonymous thing.
    55:40
    man, this is good. So, so back to drop catch. Back to drop catch's question. This is um a work in progress. It's coming along nicely. This is a this is the the the last the latest reproduction of World Poker Tour. I'm having a fabulous time playing it. I think Robbie, who's working on it, is Amaze Balls. Please finish it up. Whatever you got to do, Robbie, I had a ball stuck. Maybe you could take a look at that. But, you know, sometimes balls get stuck in games and I could be wrong. So, there you go. But, um, no, brilliant. Wonderful. Wonderful. I mean, I love this game. I don't know why this is alone. Have you ever played World? Of course you played World Poker. That's a dumb question. But what do you think on a scale of 1 to 10? What do you think about I'm going to put Owl on the spot. 10 being the greatest game ever and one being Thunderbirds.
    56:46
    I'm on Eastern time. It's almost midnight. I got to go to bed. Slappy. Thank you, bro. Against Keith. What do you mean against Keith? No. Um, World Poker Tour. The theme doesn't grab me, but I love the shots and the rules. A solid 7.5. I agree too. I agree too. That That's kind of where I put it, too. I I like a 7.5, but I like the shots. They're so stupid. Is there a way in VPN to have it like have random malfunctions? You know, dirty. I we should talk about this on the thing, but it's funny how everyone wants that to happen.
    57:25
    It's funny how I mean I've been doing this for 15 years here. Let me do I've been doing this not not the stream for 15 years. Stream has been about six years, but I've been in this game by the way. Check that out. Motel Capri Poker Showdown. I've uh Feels like it could have been a Black Knight game. Interesting. I've been messing around with this stuff and everybody comes up with the, "Hey, is there a way to make the game randomly malfunction or randomly dirty or can you make the rubbers get dirty? Can you make the play field dirty? You can make that. And my question is why do you want to
    58:15
    you? The answer is yes, you can. Um, so hold on, hear me out. For tournaments, you can have it so the game is broken the same way.
    58:29
    Have it lean a little, have unique quirks. There there you you technically the answer is yes. Technically the answer is yes. I've seen I've seen games where the design it's up to the developer. It's up to the the coder. I've seen games where the coder wrote kind of a variable uh vuck for a coil for um for a scoop that shot back to the flippers, right? They they they put a level of variability into it. Um, but I'll tell you this, the physics are actually so good now that sometimes you don't have to do that and the game itself will um, for example, I have an accelerometer in mind, right? So, whenever I flip, whenever I flip, I don't have to be nudging the game. anytime I hit a button, there's a variable, a small amount of my accelerometer will say, "Oh, the game shook a little bit." And that actually affects the path of the ball. Right? If you're playing on desktop, you're on desktop. And it's fine to play on desktop. Um um slightly go slightly going. I've seen so many I've seen so many problems with games. I I like I don't want them, but I understand the desire to like have the game be intelligent enough to write that. Um you you Yes, technically yes. Um when you're playing in a cabinet with a proper cabinet with a proper accelerometer and proper feedback, there's variability in the play no matter what because of um analog to digital conversions talking to the game and telling the game slightly move the ball this way because he did something. I mean, I was knocking Um, I was slap I I can slap the ball off of the sidewall just like a regular pinball machine. There are things you can practice. I've gotten better at live catching and drop catching because of the physics. Um, the push to get better physics in VPEN, they're not I I get off my I I don't want to be on like a a soap box, but the the the the super smart people who are writing physics and stuff for pinball are mostly pinball players. So, they're not coming up with this out of thin air. They're looking at their actual game that's in their actual house. They're looking at the actual game in their actual house and they're going, "Okay, how do I make the virtual play like that and they'll do stuff that will help that?" You can live catch now in Ven. The ball bounces, the ball flies, the ball will hop, the ball you you can you can play this in VR and see the whole table. Um, so you know, there's that, right? I can do a little ski jump right now if I gave the ball that gave the game a nice little nudge. You see the little hop the ball did?
    61:57
    used to be insanely difficult. Okay, then that. Okay, then. Okay, that's a problem right there. Admittedly, that is a that's not supposed to do that. That's why this game is still in beta. But there we go. Doing a post pass used to be really hard in in the with the old physics. Now they're great. All right. All right. Um I have a Doctor Who near me that I know super well. I can hit every shot and then I go to another location. I had to hit [ __ ] But that's that's welcome to pinball right there. That's just pinball. Um side note, the flipper button literally fell out the second Doctor Who, which I don't want emulated. Um my firepower does. Yeah. Yeah. So So that's that right. Let me see if I can do an orbit.
    62:54
    Um The biggest I say uh as a final word, the biggest um issue with some virtual pinball recreations has little to do with the recreation and more to do with the the flipper lag, the response of the flippers and the game. Um, I've had professional like big time like Andre Masinov would come over and play, you know, he was playing dieh hard once and he's he still noticed it's it's I've made the flipper lag incredibly short on this game. I think it's like maybe 60 milliseconds or something even crazier that pro players can feel that. They can feel that. It it's difficult to compare with the the speed of light hitting a flipper and having it fire on a coil and converting that to digital. So that's the only thing I want to be able to say. Um yeah, if there was more than 10 milliseconds lag, it's it's a wrap, right? Um uh there no insert for that to be caught on. It might be amusing. Oh, there's no interest in that because it might might be amusing to take advantage of that to simulate a raised sunken insert over the foil flipper that catches the ball on the war table. Um, oh, and to finish off the the conversation because I do have to stop streaming. Um, if you play in VR, you get pretty much minimal lag. And makes sense, right? It's inherent in VR to not give any lag, otherwise you're going to get sick. So, the responsiveness in VR matches the responsiveness of the game because that's your display now, right? Your display is in your in your in your head and when you hit a flipper, it fires mostly with if you have a good machine and stuff like that. So, that's how you get the least amount of lag in my opinion. In my opinion,
    65:13
    Um, that's it. Yep. Okay, guys. Thank you so much for hanging out. Um, just keep on the lookout at VPU for when this World Poker Tour table hits and give it a try. It's it's it's a tough game, but it's I think it's fun. It's a solid 7.5.
    65:34
    All right, guys. Have a good one. I'll see you later. I'll talk to you later, Dirty. and everybody else. Nice.
    65:47
    I'm still here. Oh, you got to hit the button.