Oh, let's settle back into a podcast. What do you say, everybody? Don here. I'm a guy. I like some pinball. I like following the news and making some comments. I'm in the middle of a move, but we're going to come in here and we're going to talk about what's going on in the pinball world anyway. Let's go. How about some air horns? 533 Spotify followers cannot be wrong. Hello, everybody. How you doing? Welcome back. Welcome back. I think we're all recovering from the recent holidays, including New Year's, which was just a few days ago. And, of course, we're all reeling from the Canada Kudos Awards. I mean, riveting hours of entertainment. I was watching. I was watching. It was interesting. Well done, Harry Potter. Canada's Game of the Year. Well done, Spooky Pinball for Company of the Year. Well done, Dune, for being recognized for Mechanisms. There's a lot of great pinball that's out there. And I wanted to do another show. I know it's been 14 days since the last publicly available one. Of course, there was a somewhat important show that I put on Patreon here recently. so all you five dollar members and up you got in on that uh the problem is if i want to utilize any music uh the spotify just puts the kibosh on the whole thing so if i want to punctuate the show with some interesting uh artist interpretations of music that i've borrowed to punctuate a point patreon seems to be the place to do it so it seems easier to broadcast over there is what i'm saying but we're back now here welcome everybody i wanted to do a show talking about the return of the want and i'll explain what i mean by that now i've been fairly blessed here in the pinball the hobby uh i started getting games back in 2000 in the doldrums of the covid like many other people uh picked up a stern dark knight george gomez game my first pinball machine that i brought in the house i was so inexperienced i didn't realize you could stand up a pinball machine on its back and just wheel it in on a dolly we drug this thing off the back bed of my pickup truck that was backed up to the uh the doors to the backyard and uh we huffed that thing just dead lifting it onto the kitchen table and then put each leg on and then got it into place and then when the guy came to pick it up when we were trading it back in for the next game he just took the legs off folded it up put it up like it was no thing took it out of a dolly and i I was like, man, I really wish I could have done that. And here we are now. Since then, I've grown the collection to between 15 to 18 games, all certified bangers, all brand new, top of the line, brand new pinball, deep code, robust flipper strength, you know, modded to the hilt with toppers and all that business. And I noticed something. When you have everything, nothing else seems quite as special. I had hit a moment several times where This is a game you're never going to win This chase to own everything as soon as it comes out You'll be chasing that dragon and just burying your entire budget But I came close a couple of times where I looked around And I'm like, I think I have all the new releases I've got all the games that I would want right now Things are great, and you would think that's the pinnacle of achievement But then you look around and it's like What else can I chase now? I've got everything You know, what do you give to the person that has everything? Not that I had everything, of course, but I was very satiated with the pinball machines. There wasn't anything like I was after, and I started to miss that. As I was building the collection, you know, when Rick and Morty would come across that I had been on the hunt for, on the search, and it was actually Bush's Game Garage. It came by on my Facebook page, and I sniped it. It was a home use only top of the line edition, Rick and Morty with all the tasteful mods in it that were unavailable at that point. The galaxy and crystals were back there. The new shooter lane wire form was already put in there. There was some extra lighting effects and things and some little toys and very low plays. And I was like, this is the one. This is the one. Boom. I got it. And then I got a Rush LE the same way from Butch again. and it was fun being on the hunt because those were games at the time i really wanted and there's something to be said about hunting for games right t-rex doesn't want to be fed t-rex wants to hunt and so the hunt the want that's what was missing a couple of times i hit this along my collections you know i had this idea that maybe i would buy a stern every time it comes out and then when the next one came out four months later we'd sell that other one and have this one come in and just have this kind of rotating business now we can look back and we see why that's not the best idea although it is possible it is possible to do the problem is the code is not where it needs to be for up to a year with these games so while i had games foo fighters venom whatever came after venom you know they came and went so quick that you know i saw jaws updates a year later where there's these cool video modes and like retro gaming and it's like i wish i still had the game so i could play those you know some john wick code that comes out some x-men code that comes out so now myself and i think a lot of people have kind of taken a back seat to this you know trying to listen to those voices that we're telling us for years you don't need to rush in every game is available you don't have to get it new in box the day it releases get it new in box later on they're available you can still get jaws is new in box for now and you can open it up and have the most robust Jaws code experience of your life. So what I've done, you know, and the house move kind of predicated this. I had a Harry Potter. I had Avatar. You know, I had all these great games, and then they were still worth a lot of money in the market. So boom, they went out. And so now I'm looking around, and I'm like, we're getting back to that one. It's hard to go out and play pinball at your local arcade when the arcade you have at home is better than what anything you'll find locally in town. And I ran into that where I would think, you know, I'm just not going out anymore. I'm not going and playing Deadpool and Stranger Things and Elvira and Munsters. I've got them at home. I've got them at home. Why go out? And so that was a problem. And so now what has happened is Stern did a release of The Walking Dead Remastered, a game that I was kind of calling for to be remastered just because I think not because the game was going for, you know, five figures like Metallica was or Tron or Lord of the Rings or any of that business. but because i think the walking dead would really benefit from that giant screen i should have asked the genie for assets as well but we got the giant screen regardless but i was able to hold my cockles back and not jump in and get one of these new in box baddies of the walking dead remastered even though i think it looks relatively okay i've played it now too so we'll get a little game review here but it was nice to not have it because not only was that money safe you know for something else down the road or the move or or you know vacation or whatever but now i had the want back i had the return of the want i do want a walking dead remastered i do think it's a fun game i always like the original one and since i've never owned the original there's a lot of built-in gameplay experience that i haven't got to have so if i had the game at home and i could play it 400 times it would be you know new it wouldn't be like me getting jaws back again that have already played a thousand times right so i i do want one and i think that's great i want one and i don't have one and i'm not getting one at least not yet at least not yet so this allowed me to then look around and say are there any of these games out yet you know it seemed like they they dropped this game and then supposedly they were in production i saw the factory fire day video but they weren't popping up everywhere well the kickback is a unique little location in Madison, Wisconsin. There's this new building in a housing development. It's kind of mixed use that they put in. And so far it big and concrete and empty except half of it is full with about 50 pinball machines a bar tucked in the back and this place called The Kickback Now I think it kind of a community center type affair where more businesses will then come in and fill out this area Maybe, you know, a little food truck will park inside there. Somebody could have their 3D print shop. I'm hoping a New York pizza place comes in there because I think that's what's missing. But this place, for whatever reason, whenever an LE comes out from Stern, they have two of them. I think there's some guys that are in cahoots, and I think one of them is to maintain and stay there the other one is to come in and then be sold later or we'll be going off to a private collection or some such nonsense but for whatever reason they had to follow the empires uh now they have two walking dead le's and it's only an hour from the new the new shack here in the the great town of benton and so i was able to go out there take an afternoon hey you know what let's drive 20 minutes out of our way let's go to kickback let's go play walking dead remastered and so that's what we did so we got in there a walk-in and this was in uh it was like 11 o'clock in the morning i think it was a thursday it was the day after new year's and uh yeah it wasn't terribly crowded and in fact both of the games sitting there right there prominently as you walk into the place we're sitting there no one's playing them so i got to go up and oogle and put my hands all over this new spike three cabinet with the butt joints and all of that business you know i I could see the little areas for the bolts on the side of the cabinet. I could finally see this art in person. And, of course, it does look better in person. It would look a lot better if it was foiled, a hell of a lot better if it was rad-caled. But it's just a vinyl decal on the LE. The lighting is cool. I like the armor. I think they did a good job with it. The game. The game was fun. The game was fun. What was really fun was being able to go out to this location, take some pictures of the games, post them up on the socials, Tag the bar in there. I got a little back and forth with that employee that was there too. You know, thanks for coming out. Come back again. Other people like, hey, I was thinking of checking that place out. What did you think? I think I'll swing by there. So it was good. It was good to get out in the community, get out and play a game because the want had come back. So I think I could go an entire year. I could go an entire three years without another pinball machine purchase and have fun in the hobby and just bank all that want. Bank that want. I spent $10 or maybe less, and I had 30, 40 minutes of fun time. And then we had to get some lunch and then go back to moving and stuff. But it was great having that want back. So I think it's reasonable. You don't have to chase absolutely everything. I do want a Walking Dead remastered. I think it was a fun game that I had. We'll get into the gameplay review here in a bit. But I like the idea of having it someday. And now I get to be on the hunt for it. You know, when you have everything, you know, you're caught up or whatever, you know, chasing the dragon. You know, you don't need to peruse Pinside and, like, is there a deal that's going to pop up? But I can do that now. Like, now I can pop on over to Pinside, pop on over to the Facebook pinball machine clearinghouse groups. And I can watch. And if a Walking Dead pops up, I can say, ooh, maybe it's time. We'll watch the prices. We'll watch the market. And we'll do this back and forth. And it'll be so much fun. When you buy a machine, that money is then committed to that machine. When you put a deposit down, Winchester, that money is locked up. If something comes out completely amazing, my money is locked up with Winchester. Now, still, financially and gameplay-wise and Brad Brad Albright-wise, I think that's still a good decision. but you never know you never know right we don't really get confirmation on games that are coming in the future we get rumors right we've heard the rumors that spooky has we haven't heard the rumors with barrels of fun and they're never ending story maybe it's something else maybe it's the muppet show please be the muppet show please be peewee's big adventure please be one of those um you know we heard the next three stern rumors or whatever you know but we don't know for sure what's coming out and when something is revealed and you put that deposit down or or however you're going to pay for it, unless it's a stern, they tend to come pretty quick. You're out of the game then, you know, something else may be right around the corner, but you're all your, all your balls are in this court, right? So if you've got the want, then you can sit there and you can chase them. And the chase is fun. And I'm glad that that's back. So let me know what you think, you know, with the market downturning, people being a little more conservative now, I think we've fully recovered from the COVID surges in the hobby of people just buying everything and and buying things faster than they could be made are you guys experiencing the want to and it's okay to have i think i think it's healthy to have it i think it's fun to hunt things down appleton wisconsin i think already has a winchester and i have half a mind to just drive on out there and just to get to play it again of course we didn't get to play it much at expo with the you know hours long lines and everything but it'd be fun to pop in on an afternoon there maybe put five or six quick games on it the want man the want is back i think the want is healthy let me know what you think don how's the walking dead uh walking dead was fun i've played pro walking deads mostly um i've played premium and le's i was at pintastic in new Robert Englunds uh it was march of 2025 and in one of the little vip rooms they had i believe it was an le walking dead and for the first time i'm like this game this game's got some legs i had a great game on it i got to play with the crossbow for the first time it had the laser pointer mod on there which i thought was super cool um it was fun it was fun and so this game i feel played of course it's a remaster and from what i remember now i don't have hundreds and hundreds of plays in the walking dead but it seemed like i was able to kind of call my shots more or less and make them greater than 50 of the time and uh it didn't feel like any shot that i made that was fair was rejected which was nice so i think it's a good fleshed out remastered of a game it's definitely brighter definitely brighter now i haven't played the premium remastered but playing the le with all those expression lights that are in there the little tic tacs that light up on the inner art blades there um and then you know some great overhead lighting a kickback i was able to see the entire play field like nothing was dark or hidden and i think that the art on the new play field of course um you know we've heard everybody's opinion on it i don't think it's it's going to win the kineta kudo of the year for art or anything but it is a fair couple of steps up from what we had before of course the walking dead's package i didn't like the cabinet art on the original walking dead it's very plain a little bit photoshoppy and then the play field itself was grotesque which i think you know married well into the theme but it was very brown and earth toned this one is much more like vibrant and fire and it still might not be you know the greatest starred package of the world or anything but it felt like there was there was more light coming from the art there and then more more light coming from the speaker panel coming from the big lcd screen uh shining down from the backbox and of course side filling with those expression lights so it felt like a much brighter game uh that was really fun it was still brutal it was still so but you have to actively be playing this game like a black knight or like a pulp fiction which I like I like it's a good mix so as far as it being you know a brutal shooter I don't think it's it's it's totally a knee kicker or anything it's not like they're just thumping you in the shins but you do have to be a little more in the moment right than if you were playing I don't know like a James Bond or a Stranger Things or something where you can just kind of you know catch and release like this is much more like an active dynamic battle with it so I had fun playing it The cabinet, to me, felt fine. You know, the cabinet's fine. It feels okay. How are they going to hold up in eight years? I don't know. Ask me in eight years. But if I didn't know any better, I probably wouldn't have noticed the little nuts that were there on the side. Because I'm into pinball, I noticed that this LE still doesn't have foil art or rad cows or something similar, you know, back-printed plexi, just so there's more of a finish on it. and i hope with you know what uh spooky pinball does with the butter cabinets what barrels of fun does with their evergloss that's what they're calling their their thick decals uh with what jersey jack is doing with its rad cows um i want stern to kind of level up to that level at least for their le man really you know make some robust art on there i love the sheen that we saw with uh games like john wick and rush i hope they get back to that i hope they get back to it because the vinyl and the squeegee ah it doesn command anything yeah but the art looks fine so i liked it i like the speaker lights i like that there's two sets of speakers i don't know that audio wise it makes much of a difference but it's an extra place to put some lights there and you kind of get this like alternating blinking effect and stuff i don't know i was having fun i was having fun playing a new pinball machine from stern i think this game benefits as well being a remaster that there's already full code to start with you know if this game would have been just de novo made for the first time right now this launch code would be super lacking you know as far as like what we've seen from them at launch so it was a fun game i'm gonna go back to kickback and play it some more io i think should get one as well so i can go over there and play it and i can go play their dune as well while we're there speaking of dune i was going to get to that later sales cut off december 31st for dune there they'll if there's demand i think they'll run them again and uh you know i think some of the commentators have been correct uh especially mr canada saying that if they did say this is the final call we're cutting this off go predator style with it i think they probably could have geeked out some more sales there uh for their dune game but you know maybe they'll run it again maybe they won't i will say the fomo was back not just the want but the fomo now now dune is a game i played pre-line i think they had us under ndas when we were down there at barrels it was like uh the day after kong launched um or it was like day of we got to play it for the first time of course that code was very much still waiting for approvals and such and it was a very brown game it was doony but like the call outs and things weren't there so it was just like it was a hard first impression of that game you know and i played it a couple other times and some of the more updated code never really just grabbed me you know um the the worm mech is giant you know but it's kind of flat there in the back i don't know i i want a more dimensionality with a worm kind of coming out and grabbing a ball and like arcing across the play field whatever i'm i'm weird with my sandworms um you know but it wasn't it was a game that i was okay like this one just isn't for me where I need to put down five figures and own this thing right now. And I think that is healthy. But dang it if announcing that they were cutting the sales off didn't spark a little bit of that fear of missing out. Like, should I get one? I'm going to go with the want on this one. I want to play it again. Heck, I want to have a Dune in the house to play with for a bit. But I'm going to have to wait and see here. What I don't want to do is plunge in for the money and then find out that this thing's hard to move later. You know, Barrels is going to come out with something amazing to follow up Winchester. And it's like, oh, maybe I should have just waited. But they were getting me. They were getting me in that first half. So it sounds like now 550 or so dunes have been sold. They're moving out. That's fantastic. I went to the Barrels of Fun site. And true to their word, you cannot order a Winchester. You cannot order a dune right now. You can still order a labyrinth. And so a labyrinth, $10,999. With tax, it was $11,474.50. If you want a labyrinth, you can buy one now. So that is something from Barrels of Fun. If you have to buy yourself one of their games, you can get a labyrinth now. So I went over to the site and I put one in my cart. I've owned labyrinth before. I'm not looking at buying a new in-box one. But I got a little curious. So I put in $100 in my cart. and it came back and it told me, Don, you can't put 100 labyrinths in your cart. You can put 69 labyrinths in your cart. And that's what it told me. These labyrinths, I believe, are already built. I don't think they're actively building anymore. So I don't know that, I don't think that this is a pre-order deposit if you were to go ahead and get one of these. I think you can just buy one straight out. And I think there's 69 of them left because the web store says there's 69 labyrinths. Don, you're asking me, how much would 69 labyrinths with tax be? I'm glad you asked because it's $791,740.50 including tax. Probably doesn't include shipping. And you'd probably have to contact them for a quote to ship 69 games to you. Now, I wouldn't buy myself 69 Labyrinths. I may buy 67 just to do the whole 6-7 thing. I didn't calculate how much that would have been. Maybe they'll give you a little bit of a margin discount if you were to buy all those. So there you go. I know you weren't asking, but it seems like there's 69 Labyrinths available. So do with that information what you will. What's going on down the street at Spooky Pinball? Rumor has it they have a new game called Beetlejuice, which is absolutely sold out. We all know what happened there. I do feel for some people, you know, Spooky Pinball got some kudos awards, and they made a Facebook post just saying, you know, hey, thanks for the awards. Thanks for the recognition. I'm sharing it with the team. We all appreciate it. And then there were people that, of course, missed out on Beetlejuice and were saying, this sucks that you guys limit sales and now I can't get one and I wanted to put it on location so my customers could play at all this business. And I feel for you. I feel for you. But this isn't like spooky pinball decided to limit their sales just to cheese off people. You know, they made 888 evil deads. They're still making evil deads. I think they've got about 40 or so left based on some numbers that I've seen customers post. I think somebody has number 840, which would leave about 40 or so left to make. So they could either increase the amount of games they build and build for an extra six months and then release a game every year and a half, or they can keep with their yearly schedule. And this is kind of around what they'll make. Now, they can make 1,000 games a year. they can make a little bit more because of course they did you know the 888 evil deads uh plus a smattering of looney tunes and tcms and scooby-doos are still on the line in there so all together they're over a thousand a year of what's getting kicked out there not even counting the show capes my goodness um but it seems like they'll be wrapping up evil that here shortly don when is beetle just being made well i'm glad you asked that too because i have an ingling on when that's starting and i think it's starting tomorrow tomorrow is january 4th it's a monday no sunday so fifth january 5th is monday monday morning they're going to start inventorying parts get them out there and i think that's when the production will really start in earnest now it's going to be slow going at first as it is with every spooky build because they're training up all the staff on how to make these things appropriately you know the team has been playing this game you know for years in various forms and everything but the the the people the crew that are actually assembling these need to be able to put these things together and reproduce them and have quality and if there's ever a time for triple checking quality control it's in the first 50 games or so so while they tool up you know and eventually they'll get to where they're making 50 60 probably games a month that's not going to happen the first month so the first 50 games will probably take i'm not going to speculate or anything um but maybe you know a couple of months until they really get rolling uh but yeah the parts the parts are in house uh they're not waiting for any tariffs to clear not waiting for customs not waiting for prototype parts to come in and hopefully they don't need to be redone i think everything's already in house so we're looking forward to a really good build of some beetle juices so that's super fun i think on monday i may just hike up the street peek my little nose in and see what's going on there i'll stay out of the way you know i don't want to cause you know chaos or confusion any more than is reasonable but i think it's worthwhile popping in there just to get you know kind of boots on the ground what's going on because everybody's excited for this beetle juice game now if you weren't able to secure one that doesn't mean you can't have one of course there's scalper fees right now and i don't think this game's ever going to go down to 10 000 but keep your eyes open you know a couple of these will hit some locations maybe they'll tour around maybe somebody will have this game in their collection for a while and choose to put it on a location earn some money pop-up events or something so keep your eyes and ears out for some beetlejuice sightings you've got all the want right there and you know what maybe you get yourself you know one of these other more desirable games when they come out and somebody down the road will look for a trade deal So don count it out I had the hardest time finding a Big Lebowski when that game came out and then went through 10 years of bull crap I had a hard time finding a distributor that would know how to get them. The guy that I bought my first game from couldn't really help me out. But you know what? An opportunity presented itself. And that Rick and Morty that I bought from Putsch's Game Garage, I went ahead and traded that for a big Lebowski. So I was able to get one with the rug and everything. It was totally complete. So dreams can happen there, Rapunzel, is what I'm trying to tell you. So super fun. So don't count it out. There's a trade deal that's out there. You're going to come across something magical. It's something that – the divorce sale or something, and then you can trade for it, and it can happen. And then in the next year, we'll have even another amazing game from them. We'll have another amazing game from Barrels of Fun, from Jersey Jack Pinball Sonic. I'm hearing some cool things about. I don't have any specifics, but I haven't heard bad rumblings coming back, which is always a great thing, especially with the trajectory that Jersey Jack is on. It started with Elton John, a theme nobody wanted, and then everybody wanted to play this game. and then once you played it, you wanted to play it again, and you wanted to marvel at the topper, you can walk into any pinball show and tell exactly where the Jersey Jack booth is by looking at the ceiling of the event center, and you'll see the projections of Elton John up there. What a fast, super fun game. And it sounds like Steve Ritchie's follow-up may be even better. I'm so excited. So the fact that I was able to preserve my want with The Walking Dead, I think that's going to give me permission to maybe go on a Sonic. We'll see. We'll see how it shakes out. But I'm super excited. So with award season here, I want to address an argument that I see pop up that I think is a bit misplaced. Now, a lot of this is directed at Kaneda, who, you know, he recruits his own vitriol from a non-insignificant section of the pinball population. And generally, the criticism he gets is how can this man, this man there with half of his head adorned and festooned with hair, how can he judge a pinball machine when he doesn't even own any pinball machines, when he doesn't even play any pinball machines or whatever? Now, that may be valid in the eyes of the people criticizing for Kaneda there. In general, though, I don't like the idea that if you don't own a pinball machine, you don't get to judge them. All right. I judge and rate roller coasters. I don't own a roller coaster. I call them like I see them with theme parks, you know, ones that are great and ones that really kind of suck. Six flags. And I don't own a theme park. So I don't think the cost to enter the pinball hobby and be able to comment on it and be welcomed with your whatever opinions is actually owning a machine. if you just enjoy pinball and go play it on location go play at a friend's house or come over and play it over here you still get to judge and tell me which game you like which game you don't and we can talk back and forth about the finer points of it you know some are blessed and able to own these machines at home they are a hassle they're heavy they suck up electricity they suck up a lot of money they break you have to repair them so there's something to be said about going out to locations like the kickback like io arcade and just you know come in with 10 20 bucks have an evening of fun and then walk away without having to worry about maintenance headaches and all that and i think you absolutely can judge and tell me what game you like what game you don't who's your favorite designer what art you like better what do you think of the play field and what do you think of the value proposition when it comes to these games i don't think you have to own a machine to have an opinion and you know i don't think you have to belong to a patreon to have an opinion of somebody making podcasts um you know if you hate it don't listen to it would be my suggestion but you go ahead and you do what you want so i think this is a fallacy you know you don't own a game so your opinion doesn't count seems kind of garbage seems i think everybody's opinion counts as long as you're playing some pinball man as long as you know your mind is open you're not just out there to criticize just for the sake of criticism but i think everybody can weigh in on that i would like to see the return of public voting pinball awards i think having an award show for the industry is important i think it's important at the end of the year to look back and recognize the great high points that happened for the prior year i'd love to see you know which show just gets voted you know consistently top because maybe that will drive somebody to go and check that one out. Like, I may have money to go travel to one pinball show. Which one should I go to? Which one consistently has the newest games in good numbers, isn't overly crowded, isn't overly expensive, isn't too difficult to get to, and has some fun stuff to do there, and maybe also around in the area? You know, what's the vibe? Each show has got its own vibe. So I think there should be an award show that says, you know, this is the greatest show. These are locations we want to spotlight. these are tournaments we want to spotlight because they're really well run uh this is a company we want to spotlight because we love everything that they're doing uh this is art these are artists there's a sound light you know i think that should exist but i don't think it should be down to just one person to do it i really think there needs to be some sort of ground swelling community voting award show so we can all you know tabulate our votes you know agonize over our ballots send them in, you know, like our votes matter, and then sit back and watch the results roll in and see what the consensus is, you know, across the industry. We do this with roller coasters and theme parks and probably Pokemon cards and cosplayers and furry conventions probably do this. I think we should do it too. So the format should be, the ballots should be available to everybody, you know, so if you know about pinball, you'll hear about the show and you can do it. I don't care who does it and puts this together. but I think it would be fun to see the community what the community thinks the best high points of the year were and then maybe also have a separate category where the industry insiders vote as well and so we can kind of see what does the industry think the best game was, what does the public think the best game was, which podcast needs to be elevated and celebrated for all the work that goes in or YouTube channel or whatever. I think that needs to exist so let me know what you guys think Don's Pinball Podcast at gmail.com is where you can find me hanging out email wise uh over also over on the discord we have a great time over there on patreon especially as soon as more time permitting i can get back in there guys i have moved and i have a grip of pinball garbage pinball celebratory pieces um mods parts to pinball marketing things translates banners all kinds of stuff i got a pile i got a pile i'm going to make some grab bags of the stuff and and we'll give that away uh for for patreon monthly giveaways until we run out which looking at the pile of mount vesuvius i've collected of of banners and t-shirts and hats and and lanyards and and just just all kinds of cool stuff uh we're going to start packing those so check that out so patreon.com backslash don's pinball podcast five dollars gets you in the door ten dollars earns you uh eternal gratitude be a producer at twenty and come on into the fold and be one of my bottom homies. Don's Pinball Podcast, gmail.com is the email address. Facebook, you know I'm there. Let's go ahead and put this show out into the world, and more will come as I hear it. This kind of sounds like the NES music that would go with a never-ending story side-scrolling platform game, doesn't it? Man, can't wait to see what comes from Barrels and Jersey Jack and Spooky Next, man. Having a fun time in Pinball. It's great. I'll talk to you later. Leave me some comments. High five, everybody. Happy New Year.