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Episode 42: Tribe Member number 10 Josh Mudd! And Dad Jokes!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jan 22, 2020
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TL;DR

Josh Mudd joins Poor Man's Pinball Podcast to discuss his Mudderitaville collection and passion for theme-driven pinball.

Summary

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast Episode 42 features guest Josh Mudd (Tribe Member #10), a passionate pinball collector and arcade enthusiast who has built 'Mudderitaville'—an elaborate themed property with a pool, hot tub, tiki bar, and growing collection of five pinball machines. The episode includes discussion of Josh's collection (Munsters, Guardians, Hard Bodies, NBA Fast Break, South Park), his animatronic projects, and dad jokes interspersed throughout. Hosts Drew and Scott Ian also provide a Laser War restoration update and discuss pricing, code complexity, and theme-driven purchasing decisions in modern pinball.

Key Claims

  • Josh has five pinball machines in his garage/game room

    high confidence · Direct statement by Josh: 'And that's when I went out and bought it, and now I've got five pinballs in a garage back in my house.'

  • Josh bought Guardians of the Galaxy pinball machine after seeing a Facebook ad featuring the LCD screen/LED display

    high confidence · Josh recounts: 'And it was Guardians Pinball, and they did an advertisement with the LCD screen LED. And I seen it on my Facebook ad. I popped up.'

  • Josh's collection includes: Hard Body, Troy North, Munsters Premium Edition, Guardians (with Groot hands mod), NBA Fast Break, South Park (with $1,100 in mods), and MAME

    high confidence · Detailed discussion of specific games: 'I've got a hard body. The Troy North, I've got a hard body... I've got a month. I know you guys, I know people just really don't dig this game... My Pride Pinball and heart is in my Munsters Premium Edition'

  • Josh has been actively collecting and playing pinball for approximately one year

    high confidence · Josh states: 'I'm not a professional pinball player, guys. I've only been doing this for a year.'

  • Josh spent $1,100 on South Park pinball mods and $600-$800 on Iron Maiden mods

    high confidence · Drew mentions: 'I spent like $600 or $800 in Iron Maiden, and then I took a $1,500 loss on it because of it'

  • The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast hosts are working on a Laser War restoration with playfield mylar removal and restoration using flour and alcohol method

    high confidence · Detailed restoration update: 'we stripped the fucker right... we removed the mylar that took two seconds... we're working right now on the removing the glue with the flour and the alcohol method'

  • Josh's dream theme for a pinball machine is The Last Starfighter

    high confidence · Josh: 'but the one that really sticks is The Last Starfighter... That's a good one. That's the one where the aliens come in... it's like a training device.'

Notable Quotes

  • “I skipped school and would go to the arcade instead of going to school... Still is. Here I am, 42, going to be 43 years old.”

    Josh Mudd @ Early in episode — Josh establishes his lifelong passion for arcades and gaming as a core part of his identity

  • “We didn't even get a permit, we just started fucking building shit”

    Josh Mudd @ Mid-episode discussing Mudderitaville construction — Humorous admission about the informal construction of pool, hot tub, and other Mudderitaville features

  • “My girlfriend has bought a custom jumpsuit online and we're getting it put together... the head comes with the whole movement of the eyes and the talking, it's amazing”

    Josh Mudd @ Mid-episode discussing animatronics — Details about ongoing Elvis animatronic project, showcasing the scope of Josh's Mudderitaville creation

  • “I bought some shoes from a drug dealer. I don't know what he laced them with, but I was tripping all day.”

    Josh Mudd @ Dad Joke segment — First dad joke of the episode; demonstrates the format and humor style of 'Dad Joke Larry Day'

  • “When I hit monster madness... I was fucking so stoked... I tell everybody in the room, look at this shit.”

    Josh Mudd @ Late episode discussing gameplay experience — Demonstrates Josh's genuine enthusiasm for pinball gameplay despite being relatively new to the hobby

  • “My wife just calls them my dolls. You get these dolls in the mail.”

    Drew (host) @ Discussion of mod spending — Humorous characterization of modded pinball machines as 'dolls,' capturing the obsessive collecting aspect

  • “Every title that I own is because of theme right now. I'm not looking at holding tournaments in my garage.”

    Josh Mudd @ Closing discussion on game selection criteria — Articulates Josh's philosophy: theme-driven purchasing rather than competitive gameplay focus

Entities

Josh MuddpersonDrewpersonScott IanpersonJon HeypersonMandypersonTroy NorthpersonStern PinballcompanyAmerican PinballcompanyUrban Chestnut

Signals

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    collector_signal: Josh Mudd represents new wave of theme-driven collectors entering hobby via digital marketing (Facebook ads); purchasing driven by IP appeal rather than mechanical innovation or tournament play

    high · Josh: 'Guardians Pinball... they did an advertisement with the LCD screen LED... At that moment... That's badass... both of those boxes checked' and 'Every title that I own is because of theme right now.'

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Hosts employing professional restoration techniques on vintage Laser War including mylar removal via inverted air can freezing method and flour/alcohol adhesive removal; planning airbrush playfield touchup

    high · Detailed description: 'we removed the mylar... used the can the upside down air can... you freeze the glue... we're working right now on the removing the glue with the flour and the alcohol method'

  • ?

    community_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast maintaining consistent production and relevance; hosts characterize themselves as 'last men standing' in podcast landscape, suggesting survivor status among pinball media

    medium · Hosts: 'the sloppiest show on the internet, and seemingly the only show still on the air... How did we end up as the last men standing?'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Guest and hosts express tension between theme-driven appeal and code depth; modern games like Stranger Things criticized as overly complex for casual bar players despite strong theming

    medium · Josh: 'There's not a person that's coming in to drink six beers... and go in and play Stranger Things and really want to sit there and get all the way to the end of it... But I love it to death. And it brings that – the theme is what brought me to buy a Munsters'

Transcript

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0:00
game's over losers oh yeah it's time the wait is over you've waited a week or more and now it is finally here the time has come for this week's Poor Man's Pinball Podcast starring Drew and starring Ian. That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over.
0:39
I'm gonna need someone to help me. I'm gonna need somebody's hand. Son of a bitch! Give me a drink! One of the nights, I just can't be free.
0:57
One of the nights, if I drink and breathe. I'm gonna drink my night away. Welcome to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast, episode number 42, the sloppiest show on the internet, and seemingly the only show still on the air.
1:16
That's us, baby. How did we end up as the last men standing? I have no idea. It's us and Macho. I love it. I just feel like, yeah, like the dust has settled and here we are. Right. I think you and I and Macho, we should form the tag team alliance like we always should have been in the first place. Well, I'll give a shout out to Lauren Gray with the back box. She's still going strong. Lauren, you can be on our tag team. Yeah, don't forget the nerds. Yep. Or Bill Albert. Pinball nerds. And Slapsave. Our boys over at Slapsave. But other than that, they all left. They gave up. They knew 2020 Twippy was, they weren't going to stand a chance. Oh, we forgot about Kaneda. See? There's Kaneda. Kaneda doesn't stand a chance either. Not against this train.
2:02
This fucking train. But today, we have a special guest today. We have a guest. Hey, what the hell? Who do we got? We have the one and only, tribe member number 10, Josh Mudd. Josh, hello, welcome. Yo, yo, yo, what's up, guys? What's happening? we're doing good brother how you doing hey man i am super stoked to be here i'm big fans of your guys show man it's just honored to be here and uh i'm pretty much buzzed because i figured i couldn't be on here without drinking four or five of these fucking october fest so oh you're already four or five in that is oh that is awesome you you are gonna fit in here nicely i watched goonies i i had to pause goonies right at the part where chunk broke the penis off the statue I'm like, that's fucking great. What are you drinking today, buddy?

Josh believes modern pinball code is overly complex and not suitable for casual bar/arcade players

high confidence · Josh: 'There's not a person that's coming in to drink six beers, five beers, four beers, have some wings, and go in and play Stranger Things and really want to sit there and get all the way to the end of it.'

company
Guardians of the Galaxygame
Munstersgame
Hard Bodygame
NBA Fast Breakgame
South Parkgame
Laser Wargame
Monster Bashgame
Shane Black Axl Rosegame
Addams Familygame
Iron Maidengame
Stranger Thingsgame
Midwest Gaming Classicevent
The Last Starfighterproduct
Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factorygame
Oktoberfestgame
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market_signal: Pricing discussion indicates continued year-over-year price increases in pinball market; Stranger Things noted as receiving $200 price bump; new machines remain accessible to affluent collectors despite cost increases

medium · Discussion of pricing: 'the prices go up it seems every year... and the stranger things i mean they bumped it up like $200... they're still selling them well and they're selling more you know'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Digital pinball advertising (Facebook ads) successfully converting consumers into buyers; Guardians of the Galaxy's visual appeal and screen features effective acquisition channel for new collectors

    medium · Josh: 'And it was Guardians Pinball... I seen it on my Facebook ad... Two things came to my head... both of those boxes checked'

  • ?

    operational_signal: Powder coating services in demand and experiencing capacity constraints; Josh waiting on response from local powder coat vendor for South Park and Laser War projects

    medium · Drew: 'I contacted my powder coat guy, but he has not gotten back to me, which is bullshit'

  • ?

    event_signal: Midwest Gaming Classic identified as significant pinball event; hosts targeting game completion for event; community travel to major regional events remains active

    medium · Discussion of MGC: 'We're still shooting for Midwest Gaming Classic... Josh, are you coming to Midwest Gaming Classic?'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Casual players achieving satisfaction from major modes (e.g., Monster Madness) despite relative inexperience; multiball and visual spectacle remain primary engagement drivers for theme-focused collectors

    medium · Josh: 'when i hit monster madness... I was fucking so stoked... the fucking thing's going nuts. There's balls everywhere.'

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Pinside community resources (restoration guides) actively used by collectors; playfield condition variation by mylar coverage common finding in vintage restoration

    medium · Drew: 'I bought a little shout out to vid over there his playfield restoration guide on Pinside... the air brush... Most of the stuff you're going to notice... Wherever there wasn't Mylar, it's roached.'

    • 2:47
    Today is Jack Daniels. We're doing Jack. That bottle's almost empty, man. Tennessee honey. Yeah, I know. You're getting down to the nitty gritty there. Well, I don't know if you noticed. Everyone else has noticed. But the last five weeks, I've had this cough. And you know what the number one remedy is to get rid of a cough is honey. Whiskey. So I thought. Wait, what? I thought Jack Daniels honey. What better way to get rid of a cough than you got honey and you got your whiskey. Why not? Boom. Marriage made in heaven. Why not? I don't know. Drew, what are you drinking?
    3:19
    Beam and Sour. Yeah. Delicious. Yeah, I love it. And Josh, what are you drinking? Oktoberfest. It's delicious. It's straight from Urban Chestnut here in St. Louis. Urban Chestnut. Wow. He's got the shilling ads, too. Oktoberfest. Man, that's my favorite beer, though. Oktoberfest in general. I love Oktoberfest. You love it. The color, the deliciousness of them, and you get fucked up fast. That's right. That's the trifecta of beer. And the pinball machine. Oh, yeah, I forgot about the pinball machine. Don't forget about that. Love you, American Pinball. All right. And we got Dad Joke Day today. It's Dad Joke Day. Josh, did you bring your dad jokes? I sure did. So, Ian, let everyone know how the Dad Joke Day works. All right, Dad Joke Day, for those of you who do not know. I will set a random timer. I've got to find it first. But I will set this random timer, and when it goes off, you'll hear a ding. And when that goes off, it is a dad joke, and we will take turns. And, Josh, you have the first one, sir. You have the honor today for the first dad joke. So when that timer goes off, we'll start with Josh. We'll just go around in a circle, and we'll tell some dad jokes. Love it. Perfect. What a blessing to be me. I know. You picked the best day to be on our show, man. This is one of our favorites. All right. So let's get to know, let's get to know tribe member number 10, Josh Mudd.
    4:45
    Guys, I appreciate it. Awesome. So tell us about you, man. What about pinball? How did you get started in pinball? Yeah, to be honest with you, I've always been an arcade guy my whole life, and it's something that's been my passion. I skipped school and would go to, instead of going to school, I went to the arcade and waited until the chains pulled up on the old tilt arcade. Couldn't wait to get in there and play Street Fighter and all the games, and I was just taken back by it. It was way more important than the math at that time, you know. Still is. Not many people.
    5:12
    What's that? I said still is, but go ahead. Still is, right. Here I am, 42, going to be 43 years old. I can afford a few more of those games, you know. And so, long story, but, I mean, it comes – it really is. And I'm going to break it down to Stern and their advertisement. I mean, I have to be completely honest with you guys. I could get into the whole arena of my life and my background, but I've got to give it to them. And their advertisement for what they did really drew me in to be a buyer, and it hooked me in. And it was Guardians Pinball, and they did an advertisement with the LCD screen LED.
    5:50
    And I seen it on my Facebook ad. It popped up. I don't even remember how it did. But at that moment, two things came to my head. That's badass, and do I have the money to buy it? And both of those boxes checked, and I said, got to do it. And that's when I went out and bought it, and now I've got five pinballs in a garage back in my house. Fuck it, eh? Well, let's start with that. How about that? Let's start with the back of your house.
    6:14
    What the hell is Mudderitaville? Because we see it on Facebook all the time, and it looks glorious. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, it's fun, man. I can't leave out the fact that my girlfriend is amazing, and she supports some craziness that we do. we've traveled uh we traveled all the way down to the coast to pick up large uh statues and characters and and uh number one and we created mutter evil because i fell in love with jimmy buffett's music and i was a big fan i heard his music and right away i'm like i love the tropical thing i like to get drunk and love margaritas i like to open have a pool so i put a pool in i put a hot tub in we built a deck around it wait you just nonchalantly put in a pool and a hot tub you gotta start somewhere with moderataville dude you gotta start somewhere and when you say pool is that like the grotto at the playboy mansion that's right that's exactly right so so your girlfriend just says okay you're doing all this stuff and you're just you're bringing home all this random weird stuff yeah we didn't even get a uh permit we just started fucking building shit awesome and you said you have a tiki bar i do we had a it's an old house we live in here. Nothing fancy, but there's an old detached garage, and we built a screen room on it. So it's a big game room, screen room, rec room, but we have a Tiki bar attached to it. And Mudderitaville, my last name Mud, Margaritaville, Mudderitaville, I started just putting Tiki blenders up and putting all this and doing video games and just fell in love with pinball, and I started loading my garage with it. Now we've got life-size characters and all kinds of stuff. I just want to stop you there. So last week, Josh sent us a message, and he said, hey, I'm going to get this. Explain what that was when you went to Chicago. What did you pick up? We got a full life-size bear. I mean, it's a seven-foot bear. I mean, there's really not a premise behind it. This summer we plan on putting a tiki skirt around it or a little luau. But this bear came with its own set of panties and a bear's jersey. It came with its own underwear.
    8:19
    It came with its own underwear, and the young lady asked me, did you want to keep the underwear? I did not answer it. I was like, okay.
    8:28
    He just sends this to us. He's like, yeah, me and my girlfriend are going to pick this up this weekend. We're going on a road trip. It's awesome.
    8:35
    I've always liked stuff like that. You know what that means? That's our first dad joke, and that surprises the shit out of all of us. All right, Josh, you're up, man. It's never made a noise before. this may make a little more sense to it all but here's my dad joke i bought some shoes from a drug dealer i don't know what he laced with them with but i was tripping all day that is beautiful awesome brother awesome oh my god all right restarting the timer now all right um so josh what's this animatronic thing you're building and how many animatronics do you have and what is your background with animatronics i i don't i don't have an extreme about i just have a passion for that's a great question and answer all right go ahead keep going no i uh i honestly i always want to have my own mankare mankare for an arcade and create it so i said you know what i can afford it now in my life so let me build this the way i would see it if i owned it and it was out in the public so one of the things i was always inspired by was chucky cheese or showbiz pizza i don't know You guys remember those? Oh, yeah. Very familiar. There's still several Chuck E. Cheese in the Milwaukee area.
    9:49
    I found for $100 on the Facebook marketplace, or $50, and I paid him $50 to drive it up here from southern Missouri. But it's a full life size off the front of a building. It's a Chuck E. Cheese sign. It's the full front of the building, the original OG sign. Oh, that is awesome. Yeah. The list goes on and on. I mean, it's just fun. realistically i want to build a real large uh barn that can fit like 50 pinballs in it that's my goal sure sure no that's a good goal and i saw i saw you're looking we're building an elvis animatronic right now from scratch i mean pretty much from the bus stuff you're building it well to not really so much in an essence of building it is pulling the mannequin putting the parts together and doing it from uh she's bought it she's bought a custom jumpsuit my girlfriend mandy has bought a custom jumpsuit online and we're getting it put together and the head comes with the whole movement of the eyes and the talking it's amazing it's gonna be neat i'll post it i'll post it once it's done okay all right so let me get this straight let me just get it straight so we can so everyone can picture it in their head so you have a girlfriend you have this detached garage you have a pool you have a jacuzzi you have a game room with arcade games and pinball machines now right that's correct i actually have one that's a meme got 35 000 games as a chinese stripper game on it yeah we know that game yeah lover boy have you played lover boy yeah i played a bunch of those because when i had my hyper spin machine i had like a thousand of them on there yeah crazy japanese weird stuff all right so you have the blander you have the animatronics you have the life-size bear um but you keep mentioning girlfriend like how is this not your wife at this point is she is she animatronic too is there something preventing you from marrying this woman because she sounds amazing she is amazing yeah you have no idea we actually dressed up as rick flair and macho man and went to the st louis blues hockey game on wwe night i saw that picture if you guys if you guys you know friend josh mudd on facebook his pictures are epic yeah Him and his girl dress up in all kinds of crazy stuff, and just their costumes are just awesome. Lots of cool pop culture stuff. Crazy. All right, let's get into the pinball. Which pinball games do you have right now, Josh? I've got a hard body. The Troy North, I've got to give a shout out, has been really real good here locally in St. Louis. There you go.
    12:14
    We're going to have to change that. But he actually did that in a real nice powder coating. I've got a month. I know you guys, I know people just really don't dig this game. I spent a little bit of money on it, man. My pride and heart is in my Munster's premium in color. It's my baby. I love shooting the game. I think it's one of the most beautiful pinball machines. It's just too shallow for me, that's all. I don't really have any ill will towards it. Drew, why don't you do us the dad joke here, buddy? Why did Stalin only write in lowercase?
    12:45
    I don't know. He was afraid of capitalism. Oh, God. Nice. Jesus Christ. All right, restarting it. all right so yeah the the monsters thing no that's i mean it's a great machine i mean i we have we have one on route here that um i play every time i'm there because i i enjoy shooting it i mean that you know john john borg is my my pinball man crush so yeah drew coined the term borg bottom the other day so the borg bottom yeah everyone loved that one we got emails on the borg bottom um okay so monsters hard bodies what else you got uh guardians pro but of course i had to do the mod for the hands so it made it pretty much a premium at that point oh you put the groot hands on there nice yeah very cool yep i love nba fast break yeah nba fast break that's a good one that's a good one too yeah and the color dmd was just released by randy and eric over there so yeah they just finished the last one is that the last one they said well the last williams one at least Oh, okay. Gotcha. Cool, man.
    13:49
    So I'm super stoked to get that installed. I haven't done that yet, but I am ready. Awesome. And then I've actually got a South Park coming from Troy. He's powder coating everything white on it. Oh, cool. Snow white. And then I've got $1,100 in mods I bought for the South Park. Can you please help me? Because that is a large amount of money to spend on mods, but when this thing's done, it's going to be fucking badass. Nope. I can't help you. Sorry, man. That's a lost cause. Right. But, you know, I can totally see that because, you know, your love of pop culture. I'm the same way with my Simpsons. I spent, you know, $1,000 on Simpsons after I bought it. You know, when you love something so much like that, you just have to. It's just fun. So I totally get it. I actually bought a ROM for it that's a carpet munching mode. Carpet munching mode. I love it. Is that like new call-outs and just different? What is that? Yeah, I haven't. I don't want to know what it is because I'm excited. Okay. Hey, those pinball surprises are always great, right? No doubt. So what would you say are your favorite games, though?
    14:53
    I tell you what, I love my MAME. I really do because it brings that nostalgia back, like when I go back to the old school. But I don't know, man. You know, I'm a blessed and I'm lucky and I love my girlfriend to death and we're in a good spot. So I can pretty much pick what games I want coming and I just need a bigger house and a bigger garage. Yeah, space becomes an issue. Yeah, it's always about space. when you build that barn i want to walk i want to walk in an october fest those are my just like ian those are my two pinballs that i want real bad you know so those are the ones that probably be my collection down the road oh man i just love everything about those games i played some more wonka last night and i'm just like if this game ever came to my house yeah it would probably be a keeper i mean it's that good yeah it is just so good and there's so much to do in october fest Like, you could never do all of it. Like, you couldn't master everything in that game. Like, it's a lot. There's a lot going on in that game, for sure. So there's a lot of bang for your buck for both of those games, I think. Oh, for sure. No, those are good choices for anybody's collections. Well, cool. What about dream themes? What are you dying for? I thought that. I had to think of that one real hard, and I dug deep. And, you know, we're like, just different silly stuff that come up in my head. but the one that really sticks is The Last Starfighter. Oh, yeah. Yes, I don't think I've seen that one. That's a good one. That's the one where the aliens come in. That kid in the trailer park gets a high score, and the aliens come by, and it's really like a testing device. It's like a training device. So if he gets the high score the aliens know that this dude can be a good Starfighter pilot What year was this 84 Okay 85 86 It got to be in Europe Europe not getting pretty badass with that dude Oh dude It a great game
    16:40
    Yeah, it's a great game. Terrible makeup. It was perfect, man. It was awesome. And then, yeah, he literally hopped in the Starfighter, and it's just like the video game, and he defeated the enemy. Spoiler alert, but you've had some time to watch it. Centauri takes his mask off. Oh, man, that movie gives me chills. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Dude, that movie, ooh, he's awesome. Sorry, Jer. Mr. Pop Culture over here. Yeah, I'm going to have to check that out. It sounds cool. All right. We got ourselves a dad joke. My turn. All right, here we go. Did you ever hear about the guy that won the pickle eating contest?
    17:16
    He was kind of a big deal. Sorry. My other ones are better. They can't get any better than that. All right, all right. okay well should we talk a little poor man's podcast personal pinball news let's do it dude and now the moment you've all been waiting for of course i'm talking about the poor man's pinball podcast personal pinball news yep those are the great sound effects you get with this professional recording of the poor man's pinball podcast right all right so poor man's pinball personal pinball news we got some laser war updates laser war oh man well what did we do we stripped the fucker right we got everything off the play field for the most part and we i removed the mylar that took two seconds that thing just popped right off and then we used the the can the upside down air can by the way if you're wondering at home uh you freeze the glue and that basically loosens up the mylar and it she looks good under there yeah we didn't have any paint come off with the mylar so we were good there and we're working right now on the removing the glue with the flour and the alcohol method so uh it's a mess it's disgusting but anyone who's ever done it you will never be closer to your game because you're sitting there massaging every square inch of that fucking play field so it's it's uh it's sexy it's romantic it's a good feeling but it's messy you know just like any other really great romance yeah yeah just like marriage yeah yeah so we're doing that i bought a little uh shout out to vid over there his playfield restoration guide on pin side but um i did buy a little uh air gun little um i don't know yeah what are those air guns yeah air brush air brush thank you drew i can't work my words um so the air brush to help us with uh the playfield touch up there's a shit ton that needs to be touched up. It just is. Just the wear. Wherever there wasn't Mylar, it's pretty roach. But the best part is the middle of it and the center of it is really good because that Mylar was just covering that part. Most of the stuff you're going to notice isn't... It just needs to be cleaned up and it's going to look great. It's all the shit that's on the top by the pops. So that's the goal. We got all the parts in, I think, for the most part. Yeah, we'll be ready to start putting it together and getting some powder coat. So, yeah, I contacted my powder coat guy, but he has not gotten back to me, which is bullshit. Sure. Other than that, man, that is Laser Wars update. And we'll keep updating you because we're still shooting for Midwest Gaming Classic. Josh, are you coming to Midwest Gaming Classic, MGC? I would like to, gentlemen. I don't know when I'm going to make it, but I will be to Chicago when that event comes up. Okay. Gotcha. What about TPF?
    20:30
    I'd love to say yes, but probably no right now. We've got a lot going on. Sure. No, life is busy. Life is messy. I know. I get it. What about you, man? So these games you have, do you work on them? Do you fix them? Do you have people help you? What's your deal with that? Drew, I love the passion that you have behind putting these games and working on them and doing that because it makes it a whole different level of enjoyment, I'm sure, but no.
    21:00
    That's awesome. No, I, yeah, I used to never do stuff like that either. You're right. As I started taking them apart and stuff. It is. It's like a second hobby within the hobby, which I find. Because it's like, you know, I love playing them. I play them every day. And then I start ripping them apart. And that's almost as much. You know, I can do that when the wife's sleeping and it's quiet, you know, and I'll tinker with them. So, yeah. I mean, that was kind of like our cycle with the arcade stuff, though. You know, we started with MAME. We were building MAME machines. And then once we got tired of MAME, we would buy the dedicated machines, and then we'd have all these arcade machines, and then we realized the broken ones are the cheap ones. So we'd buy the broken ones, learn how to fix them, which, yeah, we had a pretty good success rate on that. And then, like everything pinball and video games, they just take up so much fucking space. So, yeah, we sold them, made some good money, and we'd buy more and fix them up and sell them. And, yeah, so we got into it that way, and I kind of feel like that's how our pinball thing is going. You know, we bought a few new. We bought a few used. Now we're buying them kind of broken down and fixing them up because prices are everywhere, man. Dude, the prices are so expensive on stuff. So, you know, Josh, what do you think about new in-box prices? I think that there's a market for it. I think that I just hope that the arcade one-ups don't try to meet a mass point where it's affordable for other people. And I like what they're trying to do there. I'm not trying to get off the beaten path, but arcade one-up is more affordable for the common man than it is a $54.99 or a $55 plus.
    22:38
    And then that is something that a person can really afford. So, I mean, I can't – I don't know. I wish I had an answer there. Yeah, I know. it's just like the prices go up it seems every year which i don't know it seems to happen it is what it is yeah that's every every business everything it's still not to the point where it's you know out of out of everyone's price range because clearly they're they're still selling them well and they're selling more you know they're they're moving more units every year than the previous year yeah which is what's really crazy yeah so and the stranger things i mean they bumped it up like $200. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. But in the pinball world, $200 isn't much. Yeah, yeah, when we're talking about $1,100 in South Park mods. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
    23:23
    No, sorry. No, I get it, man. I think I also put like $600 or $800 in Iron Maiden, and then I took a $1,500 loss on it because of it. You know what I mean? And my wife just calls them my dolls. You get these dolls in the mail. you know and i'm just putting all these cool things on there but i did the same thing with black rose yeah but you buy it fucking awesome the game needs mods let go of that pinball man oh that was fun black rose yeah um it was unreliable at best josh it wasn't it was still pretty um but i had a lot of issues with that one and i was fixing it as as i went and it was always like the reoccurring shit and i just was like you know i saw the price go up and up and up on that one like all of a sudden people were talking about it they wanted it and then it hit market trends and i was like oh fuck all right then we just throw it out there and then it just so happened uh troy south actually uh shout out to my troy um he contacted me he wanted the black rose how would you call him troy south what's his name troy troy smith troy smith troy north he is south yeah i love it sorry troy smith troy smith your new nickname is troy south It's happening. So Troy Smith called me, and he asked if I wanted any new in-box game, and that was right when Monster Bash Remake got released, and I was like, fuck yeah, I want that.
    24:49
    So, yeah, it was a straight trade. No, it wasn't. I'll trade you this old beat-up Williams. Yeah, I know. So he gave me a really, really good offer, and I was like, fuck it, yeah, I want the Monster Bash. So did either one of you guys see the, um, someone had his pinup art on Facebook of some of the, like the, you know, the art from the Williams day and they redid the, the black rose girl. No, she was all like sexy and stuff and like topless and she wasn't wearing the grandma panties. And I was like, yeah, that should be on the back glass. It was really cool. He did like, I don't know, six or seven of them. He just kind of took these old, like, um, back glasses and just did like the girls and stuff and pinup art. It was kind of neat. Right. So no. No, and Black Rose is a cool game. I love it to death. It's a fun game. But it's, yeah, it's the limited rule set. You could tell it was kind of an afterthought once, you know, because it came out the same year Adam's Family came out. Sure. And it basically just got, you could tell they gave up on it really quickly. They made $3,000 out the door because they were making $20,000 of the Adam's Family. Sure. That's another one. If you had $10,000 in your collection, it would stay there all day. Yes. It was just that cool. Yes. But, yeah, I could see plenty. My only game. Yeah. That was brutal. I get it. That was brutal. You know, Iron Maiden, one of the greatest games ever, I got rid of it. It was my only game at the time. I literally put 2,000 plays on it myself. Yeah, right. And I was like, yep, I'm done with this game. Well, you know, I replaced it with Monster Bash, and that was my only game, and I tore through that thing. I was like, okay, next, you know. Do you get bored of your games, Josh, or do you find yourself just coming back? I do, but I don't get enough time on them. I don't feel like I do. So, I mean, I know that I'm not a professional pinball player, guys. I've only been doing this for a year. I mean, I probably stepped up. Do you know who you're talking to?
    26:40
    No, but I haven't been into it long. I just haven't. So deep code to me didn't make sense until I started listening to pinball podcasts and listening to you guys and other podcasts out there. And I started getting into code, and I'm like, what does this code mean? And I started digging into it.
    26:56
    And just some of the code writers out there, it just amazes me what they do to this. Oh, absolutely. how deep it can get so it's such a difference from back in the 90s versus an 80s versus today where you know they call these things for the home use now where you can get so much more entertainment value for your money versus the older games so you know that's that's kind of what i'm looking at now you know i know this is silly but when i hit monster madness which was probably about two months ago and guys i'm telling you i'm not a good player when i hit it i was fucking so stoked It's a cool mode. I'm like, holy shit, the fucking thing's going nuts. There's balls everywhere. The fuck is freaking out? I'm like, holy shit, I'm telling everybody in the room, look at this shit. Yeah. Isn't that funny, too? And then non-pinball people, they're just like, you're an idiot. Because I do that all the time. I'll come out of my room and tell my wife I just did something fantastic, and she's like, yeah, you're an idiot. Go back in your room. I like how he called it the room. It is. I came out of my room. It's my room at my house. It's literally a bedroom, Josh, and I have six pinball machines wedged in it. Nice. But that is my slice of heaven because I can go in there and play six pinball machines. Oh, yeah. So do you think the code has gone too far and it's too deep now?
    28:15
    Oh, for God's sake. You know, like Star Wars. Ridiculous. It's silly. There's not a person that's coming in to drink six beers, five beers, four beers, have some wings, and go in and play Stranger Things and really want to sit there and get all the way to the end of it. I mean, it's awesome. I love it to death. And it brings that – the theme is what brought me to buy a Munsters for $9,000. Oh, you have the LE?
    28:41
    Well, I modded it up tonight. Oh, okay. You got the premium. You said color premium. Okay. Yeah. That's what brought me into the game. And it's been a year.
    28:52
    And every title that I own is because of theme right now. I'm not looking at holding tournaments in my garage. You know, that's good because it took me a while to get to that point because now, like I said, I'm thinking about getting rid of Alice Cooper to get Jurassic Park for that reason. Because Alice Cooper is a great game, but it's not a theme that calls to me and Jurassic Park is. Right. Yeah, I think you're right. Theme is becoming more and more important, at least to me, every day. So that's cool. Have you got a chance? Is there a Stranger Things by you anywhere? There is one right up the road, probably 10 minutes from my house, and we played the shit out of it. It's a fun game. Is it? Yeah, it's super fun. The ramp was tough. The ramp was tough at first. Which one? Hold on one second. The main ramp, by the way. Dad joke. Josh, go for it. What do you call a hippie's wife? I don't know. Mrs. Hippie. Mrs. Hippie? Mrs. Hippie.
    29:50
    Oh, these get better every time we do them. It's the booze, Drew. I love it. Restarting the timer. Okay. So anyway. So are you talking about the main ramp that folds down? Yes. I mean, right off the get-go, it was tough to hit. But like I said, three bears later, I'm fucking nailing this thing. It's the butts.
    30:08
    So this was a pro then? It was a pro. Yeah. Okay. So you think, I mean, are you a Stranger Things fan?
    30:17
    I'm not a hardcore one. I mean, I've tried it. I fell asleep the first couple episodes, and I'm having trouble staying awake. But I know that hurts a lot of people's hearts. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Everybody's got their own deal, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, no worries there.
    30:33
    Yeah, some people would say monsters. WTF. No shit. Son of a bitch. No, you're right, though. I was going to hate it when they released a new code for it, and I was like, it's not going to happen. I hope Dwight does it, man. I hope he hits it with a new code, and everybody's like, yeah, baby. I can't believe I sold it. Well, guess what? We saw that with Game of Thrones. We saw that with Ghostbusters.
    30:57
    You know. I don't think you guys realize how much I'm praying because I love my machine. Guardians. Sure. But I will sit back and I will laugh to the high heavens when they put a new code out, baby, for monsters. Yeah. If they just add to it and it hurts just a little bit, I'm going to be like, I don't know.
    31:15
    No, and they probably will because, yeah, we were just talking. I mean, there's been several big code updates. Even Metallica. Metallica linemen went back after six years and did something. So who knows? But yeah, if you love it, you love it. And these people who... All these haters, it's just like, come on, man. Yeah, it's fucking pinball. If I like the Munsters and you like Star Wars, who gives a shit? Right, right. All right, so on to Stranger Things. Jack Danger did his stream last week. Drew, did you get a chance to look at it? Yeah, I watched a little bit. I mean, I watched a bunch of the pro and then the new premium. I saw some of it. The premium. They showed the projector finally on Twitch. And you know what? It looked great. It's a non-story. Yeah.
    32:02
    What do you know? Somebody blew it out of proportion. I'm not going to name names. But yeah, it's up. Captain Kangaroo. Captain Kangaroo to the rescue. But no, man, it worked. you know it's that i think it would be pretty pretty cool if they put a little bit more into it obviously it's early code wise 80 88 82 point what is it 0.82 or whatever i i'm sticking with my statement of meh because you know before this thing was even shown what did i say i'm like i love stranger things it was a cool show i couldn't see how it translated into pinball the game looks cool i'm gonna play it it's um it has a lot of inserts it has that easy to follow medieval madness uh attack from mars set up you know hit the ramp a bunch hit this ramp a bunch which i like i like hitting repeating shots however you know in a home environment i'm i'm this is one of the first sterns in a while i not interested in owning even if i could josh any any yeah i don have any input on it I enjoyed playing it though I did Sure But would you buy it I would have been like the Guardians without the ramp Okay that fair And I like Guardians a lot So would you purchase this, or would this just not be interesting to you for your house? No, sir. No, I would be too much like my Guardians, to be honest with you. Sure, sure. And you can only have so many of one game because there's so many cool games out there. There are. There's a ton of games out there. That's the problem. All right. Well, yeah. I'm sorry. Can I ask you guys this real quick? Yeah. What is my... Yeah, I'm trying to think of the game. It's doggone... No, what is the game?
    33:41
    It's the Hitman. It's... Oh, I'll think of it in a second, gentlemen. I apologize. John Wick? You're talking John Wick?
    33:52
    No. The Hitman? Boom, boom. No, it's Sopranos. Oh, Sopranos, yeah. Sopranos. It's a silly game, but I enjoy shooting Sopranos. It's fun. It's such a fun game. Yeah. Yeah, I have only played it a handful of times. It's at a bar here. They had it at Trader Nick's. Yeah, there was a bar around here that had Sopranos. I shot it a few times. Yeah, dude, that game shoots great. It's a lot of fun. This is one of the oddest mods you'll ever see. There is a mod to cover up the strippers. Why would you ever do that? I don't know, but there is an actual mod. I think they sell them at like Pinball Life or something, but it's like these little things and it just says like attraction coming soon or something oh nice yeah so like oh and it even says like oh if you have kids in your house you know get this for the sopranos and i'm like really you know i'm really gonna hate the mod for the profanity on south park i got oh i can't wait i'm a huge south park fan you know that the pinball machine it's like it's a good machine it's fun i i enjoy it but i'm a huge fan of the show and i yeah i can't wait to see what that's all about yeah so i worked with a guy down orlando for all my mods for south park and literally he's come through and i i i sent him money paypal the guy could have duped me and he didn't so so these are all like custom mods then they are of almost every there's satan and god and they battle oh my god okay topper and it's got jesus versus satan live pay-per-view and That's cool enough that I'm making a road trip to your house, Josh.
    35:24
    I'm not kidding. Come on, baby. Yeah, you're only like five or six hours. We can make this happen. Speaking of random games, I was at the movie theater not too long ago, and they had Rolling Stones there. Did you play that piece of shit? I played it, man. It reminded me a lot like every other game from that era. Oh, my God. Have you ever played Rolling Stones? There's a lot to shoot, though. I've seen it. Troy North has one. It looks pretty. I mean, you would have, like, the Dracula on the track, but it's not Dracula. It's, like, Mick Jagger. It's Mick Jagger coming back and forth, kind of winking at you as he flies by.
    36:04
    Oh, man. You know what was the funniest part and probably the saddest part? It was a dollar a play. Oh, my God. So I put a dollar in that bad boy, and I didn't GC it or anything. It sucked. you know what though there was a lot in there and then i was like well damn it you know it makes me sad because some of the sterns just don't put enough in there sure and here's another example of stern putting a bunch of shit in there now granted it all looks like it's going to fall apart at any moment yeah and uh i probably did at one point but i was i was just a random game that i played and i thought ah it's not bad it's not great either though all right we got a dad joke drew i'm at an interview with a bakery manager for a bakery job and he says why do you want a job here qualifications do you have and i say to him well i need dough jesus that actually made me mad that's the last time we do dad jokes that's it it's over Awesome Don't give up now No I'm kidding I got We got at least Two or three more I will steer the ship Direct after this one Hey Josh This is our show We can tell as many Damn dad jokes as we want Yeah there you go Usually at the end One of us will say Oh I got like three more Let me just tell them We're just telling them Plus we got Some emails That have dad jokes too So we'll have lots of dad jokes Yeah Alright so Jersey Jack Nothing Spooky Nothing really new We talked everything Yeah American Pinball, still no word on Hot Wheels yet. Yeah, waiting for TPF. I'm going to be there for the reveal. I'm going to slap Jack, Josh Coogler. Yeah, Josh Coogler. Yeah. Give him a high five. I thought you were going to slap him on the ass. I could do that, too. Josh Coogler, I'm coming for you, buddy.
    37:53
    It's like the Borg Bottom. The Borg Bottom, the Josh Bottom. You'll get into it. All right. Pinball-wise, there ain't much. There's the new code for Alien. That's like the newest little bit. Yeah. Did you hear who wrote that, though? It was one of the actual software guys. Yeah, the Highway software guy. Well, hey, good for alien owners. Yeah, well, it's cool. Well, do you think this means it might be coming back? I mean, why would he go to that? Well, Canadian's been saying it for months now, that the Pinball Brothers are going to be mass-producing the alien game. But it's like, show me. Sure, but I guess the thing was it was confirmed that, yeah, he had to ask the Pinball Brothers. He needed permission. Yeah, I guess. But it's kind of like his software. I mean, I know he doesn't own it because he worked for a company, but it's kind of weird. He doesn't own it, so he needed permission. I don't know if I'd read too much into it, folks, but I don't know. We don't know. I have no idea. Because Alien is one of those monster themes, no pun intended. Right? I mean, it is one of those themes that whether you – because like me, I didn't see all the Alien movies, and it's not something I'm like, oh, this is great, but I understand that it's a huge IP and people want it. You didn't watch the last Starfighter. You didn't see any of the Alien movies. Can we even be friends anymore? What have you been doing for the last 20 years, man? I don't know. Don't let him come over to my place. Yeah.
    39:14
    It's over. Yeah. The love affair is over. Well, what can I say? Sorry, folks. I got to get out of here.
    39:21
    Nah, stay. Josh Mudd is the new hetero life partner of Ian. I'm out of here. Anyway, so Alien Co. What does that mean for me? Nothing, really. But I'm excited to see. Would you buy a mass-produced Alien Pinball machine? Is that something you would be really excited about? No. Josh, you?
    39:40
    No, I mean, I wouldn't go after it. Okay, fair enough. No, but that doesn't mean I don't recognize it as a very cool game, though. No, I think it is. I think it looks badass. I would love to get some serious time on one. Yeah, that's true, too. You know, from my knowledge of Alien Pinball, I have not played it. And so I've seen streams. I've seen a lot of videos on it, and everything I've seen looks really fucking cool. The problem is it breaks down, but there's so many people now in that community that help with boards and parts and stuff. It's so fucking cool. Well, that's kind of like – The people are keeping this alive. Sure. I love it. It's like the big Lebowski where it suffered from poor business management and stuff. I mean, the theme was great. The game was great. It just needed to be produced and sold. and don't screw people over. Hey, fellas. Yep. We're going to see a tide in the changes of pinball if Toy Story does release for a pinball title. Ooh, why do you say that? It's going to be epic. It is going to be epic. It's going to bring in so many people to pinball that heads are going to spin. Josh, are we best friends now? It's going to change pinball probably massive. I can see a lot of people getting it. Like I said, I'm super excited about that. rumor.
    40:58
    I think that's very cool. We got a dad joke here. We got a dad joke. I'm going to write the ship with this joke. This is a good one.
    41:07
    Did you know why diarrhea is hereditary? No. Because it runs in the genes. Oh my God. Proud of that one, Drew. That's good, man. That's good. I like that.
    41:23
    That was good. Oh, dad joke. So, yeah, Toy Story. I think you're right. I think with Rick and Morty and Stranger Things, for that matter, the tide has already started changing with these younger kind of relevant IPs. Right, Josh? Yeah. Yes, agreed. Agreed. So is Toy Story something you really want or you just think that that's – No, I think kids are getting older and the knowledge of gameplay and entertainment aspect of what pinball brings is the Toy Story is going to open up to the kids that are getting a little bit older. Kids are young when Toy Story is out. I was going to say, people don't realize how long ago that first Toy Story movie came out. Exactly. It was like 20-plus years ago, which is crazy to think about. I'm going to look that up. It's still relevant, right? Yeah, yeah. And the newest movie, well, Ian just likes Sporky. He doesn't care about the rest of the franchise. Sporky, Sporky, Sporky. Sporky's the only one I care about, but I get what you're saying. Yeah. No, I'm excited. Like I said, when I saw the Rick and Morty thing and Stranger Things, I was like, okay, no offense, Josh, but it's not monsters. And it's not even Ghostbusters and stuff. It's stuff that's relevant today.
    42:35
    Because even like turtles, I'm excited to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but that's not a license for kids that are 25. Sure. So, yeah, that's pretty awesome, though. Are you looking that up, Ian? 25 years ago. 25. So that means, yeah, some kids 5 or 6 years old, now he's 31. He has a good job. He's married with a house. So, yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, when I was 31, I was broke. But these kids now, maybe they're not because they're smarter than me. But, you know, who isn't? They're smarter than you, Drew. Yeah, pretty much so. Yeah, put them in arcade bars. Everyone's going to go to the Toy Story. They're all going to go to the Toy Story. No, that's very true. Because we have a place by us that has, like, 20-plus pins. And, yeah, you're right. You just watch where some of these kids go to, and they go to the stuff they know. They won't go to Attack from Mars or Adam's Family.
    43:29
    They'll go to Ghostbusters or big licenses, big stuff they know. Yeah, I learned that from John's Arcade. Walking Dead. Remember John's Arcade on YouTube? He would always talk about, because he got into putting his arcade games on location, and here he got all excited and geeked out, and he's like, I'm going to put Paperboy there and I'm going to put 720 and Mario Brothers and all these other games. And the only games that earned were Pac-Man earned and some of the more general, like Centipede earned, X-Men earned, House of the Dead 4 earned. Dragon's Lair? No, because no one knows what that is. Yeah, none of those kids only want to put quarters in where they know the game. They don't know Tapper, but sure as hell they know Pac-Man because it's been around and it's still relevant. They had cartoons. They had all kinds of stuff. Yeah, so games that he thought were going to do really well, Double Dragon. Well, we keep coming. We've said this a hundred times on here and so have a million other people. But yeah, Mario Brothers Pinball is one of the best earners of all time because everyone knows who Mario is. Right. It's just that simple. Right. And same with Star Wars, because everyone knows what Star Wars is. Yeah, so if you ever do that stuff on location, yeah, you want the theme. Theme, theme, theme, theme. And Toy Story would be a great theme on location. Yep. It would be a killer theme. Yeah, I'm excited for it, because I can't wait to see Jersey Jack's take on something like that, especially if they can get the assets the way they should. Let's go into, oh, let's just lump it all together. We had a bunch of podcasts just quit, so we had. They just gave up. They gave up. They said poor men are better. They got scared. They got scared of our professionalism. Yeah, suck on that, buttholes. Yeah. And head-to-head, twip, special when lit, and pinball supernova all quit. They just, all in one day, pretty much, within 24 hours. Yeah. They all just said, we're done. Yep. We're not doing this anymore. And then all of a sudden, out of the blue, the pinball network showed up. Yeah, weird. I wonder what's going to happen.
    45:43
    Is this all related? Is this some conspiracy? Yeah, I think it's all related. I think everyone's kind of teaming up to do some super network. I know. But don't they already kind of do that? They do. I mean, poor Ken Cromwell. He turned his whole garage into a studio. Sure. So we've got to make sure he uses it. Yeah. They do it, but they don't do it under the same name. That's the problem. Because, you know, now when you have – and this is all – They kind of were with the Flippin' Out Network, but not the podcast. I get what you're saying, Drew. So, yeah, they're like, okay, you know, we have this drop-down menu for the Twippies, and, yeah, there's these five different, six different choices. Now it's going to be next year, there's going to be only one. The Pinball Network. Yeah. And then Kaneda. We own the world. Yeah, and then Poor Man's Pinball. And Poor Man's Pinball gets three votes, and Kaneda gets, you know, 2,000, and then this Pinball Network gets 2,001 or something. sorry canada no idea what you're talking about true uh yeah he already did the count yeah don't even hold the twippies next year um but yeah no that was uh that was just the latest news in the podcast shake up uh clearly they've they formed an alliance and if this was survivor we would have been voted out true josh do you want to see a more professional uh production or do you like the off-the-cuff drunk production.
    47:11
    I personally can't wait for you guys' podcast every week. I look at my podcast and I tap it. I never really figured out when you guys drop it, but when you drop it, I couldn't wait. Neither do we, brother. Neither do we. We just know.
    47:24
    Well, thank you, Josh. Yeah, so you listen to everyone then, kind of like us? I'm an outside sales. I travel all day in my car. Oh, okay. Calls and everything. So I'm blessed to have an ample amount of time to listen to Airwaves, So I listen to every podcast. So it's heartbreaking whether it's you or Twip or anyone out there that drops. Yeah. But I enjoy you guys more than anyone else on the airwaves. Woo-hoo! You beat anyone local here that I listen to. Oh, that's awesome. You don't have to give names, but you can if you want. No, he just did.
    47:57
    But, no, I love all these podcasts. And whatever they end up doing together I think is going to be great. Yeah, no, I'm actually, you know, all jokes aside, I'm really excited. because I'm the same way like you, Josh. I mean, I've been consuming this content like no other.
    48:13
    They're going to do great. Yeah, for years. And I am excited to see because I think it is kind of cool and maybe someday we'll be cool enough to just do a guest spot on one of their pinball network shows. Maybe one day. Maybe they might like us enough. But no, they've all been super friendly to us. We're cool with them. Yeah, we've had a good time. But congrats to those guys. Yeah. Hell of a good run. Do you have any favorite episodes? Um, you know, let's start with head to head. You have a favorite head to head episode. It's so hard. It's so hard to choose that because I've, I wrote down my favorites. Well, you, you go with your favorite. No, I saw that. I got one. Let me go. Go for it, brother. You want me to go? Yeah. I apologize in advance. I don't know who aired it, but whoever aired the whole Dwight Sullivan and Christopher Franchi and John Borg to do monsters. And they had the whole, Oh my God. You're so right there. Yes. go ahead yeah that was the special one lit yeah yeah that was special when lit they did the the round table yeah the round table you are so right because i remember that one now and i was gonna all i was gonna say is dream team that was a dream team on air anytime dwight sullivan's on anything i don't know what it is about him you know he's one of those guys that you hear his voice and then you see him and they don't match up he's one of those guys yeah but uh he's great yeah he is so awesome and I watched him most recently on the dead flip stream when the Ghostbusters code came out last month or two months ago or whenever that was and uh yeah he just always cool i finally got to meet him um at expo and all i got all i had time to say to him was that champion pub wasn't a novelty game and he thought that was really cool yeah i will say it's funny you said that because my favorite twip episode was the dwight sullivan episode when he talked about that yep by far and i even emailed Zach, I said, best episode you've ever done. And this was shortly after we went on. I was like, way better than ours. It was so entertaining. Sure, sure. Every time he's on, I listen to it in its entirety. And admittedly, I don't listen to every episode in its entirety because I don't have time or whatever. I get the bullet points. But yeah, Dwight Sullivan, you're my second man crush behind John Borg. I must say it. I will say this. I was looking at head-to-head episodes. They had so many good guests. Oh, a ton of them. So I always had a hard time picking it out. and they have on their website, you know, you can search by month. And then I clicked on the month of August 2018. These are the four guys they interviewed. So I'm just going to say that this is the best month of podcasting period. For head-to-head. Episodes 55, 56, 57, and 58. Okay? They had Dennis Nordman. They had Scott Denise. They had Tanya Klais, who did the Deadpool code, and then followed up with George Gomez. I mean, what a month. Yeah. What a month. Wow. Yep. Yeah. That's all I got. No, that is. That's awesome. So Special Lit, by far their best episode is when they brought Brian Eddy back from the dead. Sure. He was like out of pinball for 20 years, and then he dropped just a shit ton of knowledge on us. I was stoked. I thought, oh, my God, this guy did Medieval Madness, Attack from Mars, The Shadow. I was like, he's back, baby. And it got me excited for what he was working on. Sure. And then, you know, the Flipping Out stream when they have, like, you know, they had the Wonka team on there. So, you know, they had Joe Katz. And then they had some other guys just from Jersey Jack there. Oh, the stream? Well, that's still going to be there. Sure. They said they're still going to be streaming. Yeah. But, yeah, just lots of cool moments. Oh, we love that. Dad joke. Who's next? Josh, go for it, brother. What time did the man go to the dentist? I don't know Tooth hurdy You fit right in with these Yeah that was way funnier than it should have been Oh man I love it And then Pinball Supernova That's a YouTuber and a blogger Been doing this for I don't know a number of years Six years I think I heard And there was some talk about him Or her or them It was him his name is Lee Yep you know that he wasn't on the drop down menu and you know some stuff he has 1.7 1000 subscribers on YouTube I've never personally watched him but I thought that was kind of odd that someone who has you know almost 2000 subscribers you gotta beg for those Twippy votes we did you gotta show for them shamelessly like we do you gotta drop your pants and be like I'll do anything for a drop down menu just don't think it was gonna happen man you have to work for it uh i guess i guess drew and i are naturally natural whores so it comes easy for us we drop our pants for just about everything he hasn't worn pants all month so um awesome man yeah i that's news baby yeah i'm just excited to see what happens well we'll know more probably in like a week or two because they said february 2020 in their trailer It was like one of those movie trailers Coming February 2020 The Pinball Network That's the sound effect That's so bad That's a bad air horn Should we do Mailbag? Mailbag Eddie's Mail Call Alright here we go Tom Weston I have these all written down, so Drew, sit back and relax. Oh, I love it. Sit back and relax. Drink and relax. All right. Tom Weston emailed us at poormanspinball at gmail.com. The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast got my vote for podcast. I'm assuming he meant Twippy.
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    Oh, and my daughter, who has just turned 11, asked me the other day in the car, can you play the Eff It Friday podcast? I really like it.
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    I told her that that's not really child-friendly. she said yeah i know but that's okay i don't care it's really funny i didn't play it when uh when has she been listening to that they grew up so fast best wishes from the uk so that was one of my favorite emails by the way that was a great email man hey you know what she's awesome i say embrace embrace the fucking friday with your daughter what all right uh the Next one, Troy Swoop. Troy. All right. So Troy said he just wanted to, this is in relation to our Twippy votes, he just wanted to kind of mention the Barbasol mod for Jurassic Park is the bomb diggity. Have you guys seen it? It is cool. If you did, you wouldn't discount it for the Twippy. And then he showed the link. Listen, Troy, I'm well aware of the Barbasol can. Every time I think about that can, it makes me laugh. It's a funny fucking mod. it's a funny fucking mod it took like 2 seconds of air time on the original Jurassic Park movie to make a mod about the Barbasol can it's hilarious it's become iconic it's cool not discounting it here are you discounting it? no but the raptor pit was just so much better in my opinion great mod a lot of great mods for that game that's the problem there were so many good mods for Jurassic Park alright and And Mr. Brian Thomas, Brian Thomas, he sent us some dad jokes. And we also did talk Brian Thomas last week's episode. And he was the guy who was, oh, talking about doing something on location possibly. Remember the location talk? Yeah, he was asking us what we thought would be good location. But he did add some dad jokes. I said I'd read them on the air today. So here we go. Dad jokes. Number one, I bought some shoes from a drug dealer. I don't know where he laced them with, but it had me tripping all day. We just heard that today. That's crazy. Josh, you beat Brian to the punch. I think my wife is putting glue in my antique weapons collection. She denies it, but I'm sticking to my guns.
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    And number three, this morning, Siri said, don't call me Shirley, and I had accidentally left my phone in an airplane mode.
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    That's pretty good. Thank you for that. You have to be, like, over 35 to understand that joke. All right. So then we'll go into Facebook messages. We're almost done here, kids. We're almost done. We had a lot of emails, and I'm trying to get to everybody here. So, do-do-do-do-do-do.
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    Inbox. Here we go. So we had Tim Lee. Tim Lee has been emailing us, sending us some stuff. Appreciate it.
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    Tim Lee sent us a podcast he did with his two sons. Yeah, that was a good podcast. And I don't want to say that we were his motivation for it, but he did do a segment of Whatcha Drinking. So we were very touched by that. But everything was great on the podcast. We kind of gave him some feedback, all positive. Yeah, it was him and his teenage sons, and one of them dropped an F-bomb and stuff. And he's like, you don't know who's listening to this? Yeah, it was funny. That was good. It was cool. But he did send us a message. All right, gents, I was jogging on the treadmill this evening and listened to the podcast. My wife, Amy, hi, Amy, was in the basement listening with me while she folded clothes. For the first five to six minutes, I got some really strange looks. It happens. Then she actually started to laugh. That happens, too, sometimes. She left to take the clothes upstairs and came back to love letters. That got a blank stare, a very, very blank stare, LOL. But she stuck around to listen to the mailbag, keep it going. So thank you, Tim Lee, and thank you, Amy. I'm Tom Hilker. Tom. Hi, I'm Tom. I enjoy listening to your podcast. A few thoughts. Instead of Google searching random questions, I think we do random questions, ask Siri or Alexa. I'm sure I'll get you off on a tangent when she throws out info and better for listening. also topic segment idea get followers to submit pinball theme ideas good and bad number ones and pull them out of a hat occasionally and discuss the designing it and also got a dad joke why did the snowman go to the farm to pick his nose all right thank you very much tom all right Two more. Pete Quince. Pete's.
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    Oh, yeah. This is a guy who sent us the Pickle Rick last week. He did send a message talking about how he did do a virtual pin himself, and he screwed it all up because he put the Kinect on it. Oh, that's right. I remember reading that. Bad things happen, and he's been so pissed off that he hasn't touched it since. Yeah, he just said F this. Yeah, I guess it was like five years ago or something. I don't know. But I guess that's a warning. Word of warning. If you're going to do the Connect mod to it, just do some research first. Save your stuff. It's not as easy as all that. So thanks for the warning, Pete. And last but not least, Jonathan Hall. Ian, here's an idea. If Spooky is including a topper with all the RNMs, then Sturm should partner with Big Miss Mona and send a Big Miss Mona pin box total light isolation booth with each purchase of a premium or LE Stranger Things. Thanks for answering my messages, blah, blah, blah. Listen here, pal. All right. We talked about this. That's a macho thing. All right. Ours is the patented awning that you press a button and it goes down like the old person's awning. The old person awning. Yeah. But before that we did have a very lengthy discussion About streaming Stranger Things And how If you really want to showcase it Hire a professional video company To go and film it Well yeah that was just a Good call Jonathan Hall Good call So we had a good one And Ian Howerworth Rich fuck Ian He did post something on Facebook About the most random themes And just for Drew's Entertainment it was either thundar the barbarian or the aquabats or the aquabats i'm gonna have to come up with a cheesy theme josh what's your like cheesy theme that isn't like a dream theme but just the cheesiest thing you can think of for a pinball machine how about elf oh you know what i dig that because that's uh yeah that's 80s pop culture if you've ever seen it oh man that's cool yep yep all right well very cool very cool so that's our mailbag that's our mailbag mailbag very cool thank you everyone for emailing us uh email us uh poor man's pinball at gmail.com like us on the facebook page the poor man's pinball podcast and uh we do have t-shirts for sale at silver ball swag uh promoter tab click on the poor man's pinball podcast and one of our emails they said that they're like i'm getting paid on friday and i'm buying a poor buying the shirt the shirt goes to a good cause it'll go to getting us online even more so yep getting us some video equipment Still working on it Yep still working on it And we decided that's going to be funded totally by the shirts So that's how that's going to be So with that being said Buy some fucking shirts Sliverballswag.com Buy our shit Hey maybe if all these other podcasts Are going out of business We'll be the only shirts on there Maybe We'll sell two more shirts Just maybe It's been great Let's wrap up the show with some dad jokes. Let's finish up our dad jokes. I got a good one here. You want to go? I don't think this one's dad jokey, but it's a really good joke. You ready? Yep, go for it. When I was younger, the local priest told me I was the prettiest boy he'd ever seen. I was touched. Oh.
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    Yeah, that's pretty dirty, buddy. Josh, you got another dad joke? I got one, yes. the secret service isn't allowed to yell get down anymore when the president is about to be attacked now they yell donald duck oh i love it um all right uh what do you call an elephant that doesn't matter irrelevant irrelevant irrelevant my brain stopped there for a second irrelevant i get it that that one didn't land very well fuck you like most of our jokes thank you thank you to the person who stole my glasses i can still drink from the bottle oh and i will josh you got any more i don't that was it that was it all right i got one last one what do you call a small mother a minimum a minimum minimum minimum One more. This is the ultimate dad joke. Ah, they're all ultimate. Dad, can you tell me what a solar eclipse is like? No, son.
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    No, son. Oh, Jesus Christ. All right. Well, with that being said, thank you very much for listening. Thanks, guys. Thank you, Josh Mudd, for joining us. We really enjoyed your company today. Josh, was this as exciting as you thought it was going to be? Honestly, it's an honor. I am so proud. I'm happy to be here and excited that you guys picked me to be on the podcast. And I hope you guys just crush it. Go into 2020. Keep kicking ass. You guys, I enjoy the shit out of you. And I know there's a ton of us that do. I don't know. Just keep going. Thanks, man. Keep doing what you have to do. Wow. I'm seriously, I'm honored just hearing that. That's awesome. Thank you. Thank you for the good words. That's humbling, man. Josh, thank you so much. Your payment is in the mail, sir. Thank you. Thanks for shilling, buddy. Here's your $50. No, seriously, Josh, thank you so much for being on here. And we do appreciate all of our listeners. And you're our first guest in 2020. So, hey, congratulations. That's awesome. So it's round circle, man. That's awesome. Because this isn't Ian's show and Drew's show. This is a show for the pinball community. That's the people's show. Yeah, we're having so much fun with this. So, yeah, we're glad you could come and hang out with us today.
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    Josh, I'm hoping to be able to meet you at some of these shows. I know you said you might not be at the next couple, which is fine. but you know there's always expo that's probably his closest one right expo probably be the closest we'll be at expo me and my girlfriend will be there for sure okay well then expo for sure and yeah forever out that way in uh in missouri is that missouri st louis jesus yeah sure but uh yeah thanks again josh and thank you very much for listening and uh we got anything else Any parting words? Yeah, we'll be re-kicking off the tribe list next week. We finally got a hold of the Project Pinball people. So we'll be posting our top ten guys. Yep, with their donations to Project Pinball Charity. And hopefully in the near future we're going to have somebody from Project Pinball on the show. Yeah. So it'll be exciting. Awesome. All right, well, thank you, everybody. Thank you, Josh Mudd. Thank you, Drew. Thanks, guys. Well, we're out.
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    Thank you.